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City of Cupertino
Audit Committee Regular Meeting
Minutes
July 26, 2021
CALL TO ORDER
At 4:00 p.m., Daisy Liang called the regular meeting to order. This was a teleconference meeting
with no physical location.
ROLL CALL
Committee Members Present: Vice Mayor Chao, Councilmember Moore, Chair Daisy Liang,
Vice Chair Angela Chen, Committee Member Song (arrived 10 minutes late)
City Staff Present: Greg Larson, Kristina Alfaro, Zach Korach
Absent: None
Guests: Carlos Oblites and Chris McCarry (Chandler), Rick Rosenthal and Carolyn Cox (US
Bank), Mitch Barker and Jennifer Meza (PARS), Kathy Lai and Matt Geerdes (Crowe),
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Councilmember Moore inquired about the Committee titles mentioned in the roll and that
Chair Liang and Vice Chair Chen’s titles should be updated. Korach confirmed this was an
error and would be corrected. Chair Liang moved to approve the May 24, 2021 minutes with the
amended edits and Councilmember Moore seconded. The motion carried unanimously with
Committee Member Song absent.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Peggy Griffin expressed her thanks for the work the Committee is doing and encouraged the
Committee to investigate the cause of issues that are brought to the Committee’s attention. She
encouraged that these instances be documented and used as test cases in the future.
NEW BUSINESS
2. Multi-Factor Authorization Training from City’s Infrastructure Division - 10 minutes
Iqraam Nabi provided the training for the Committee.
3. Quarterly Review of Treasurer’s Report as of June 30, 2021 – Chandler and Korach – 75
minutes
Korach discussed the City’s cash flow over the previous quarter and throughout the fiscal year
ending June 30, 2021. He discussed the 4th quarter $20 million transfer from the City’s operating
cash to the investment portfolio for purposes of reducing the liquidity ratio to desired levels.
Councilmember Moore asked about the $20 million transfer and the policy in place that
authorized it. Korach noted there is no policy in place primarily because there is no budgetary
impact when dollars are transferred from the City’s operating account to the City’s investment
account. Councilmember requested further information be included in the staff report
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discussing the process. Vice Chair Chen inquired about the 10% liquidity mark discussed in the
staff report and that current liquidity exceeds the 10% level. Korach discussed the liquidity ratio
of “1” and the 10% level being estimates based on the City’s operating expenditures. They were
established to ensure short-term as well as long-term obligations (cash outflows) are able to be
met. He mentioned that although the City’s cash and cash equivalent balance exceeds 10%, the
City is anticipating a decline in revenues in the upcoming year that may have an impact on the
City’s cash and cash equivalent balance. Vice Chair Chen inquired about the June expenditures
being significantly higher than the previous fiscal year. Korach noted this was due to the $20
million transfer (outflows) from the operating account to the investment portfolio. Vice Chair
Chen asked if encumbrances and land acquisitions were included. Korach noted that the recent
property acquisition would be captured as an outflow, but encumbrances would not be as they
do not represent an outflow of cash. Chair Liang requested that a bank reconciliation be
included to better identify the $20 million transfer. Vice Mayor Chao asked about the frequency
of these transfers. Korach noted these are typically completed on an annual basis as sufficient
time is needed to accumulate cash and cash equivalents. Vice Mayor Chao wondered if we
could transfer these dollars more frequently. Korach noted that since the onset of the pandemic
and the unprecedented increase in sales tax was one of the primary drivers for this
accumulation of cash and that we would not expect it every year. Korach noted that the
quarterly audit committee meetings and the review of the treasurer’s report serves as the
assessment and monitoring of the City’s cash and cash equivalent balance. Councilmember
Moore inquired about the amount of sales tax actuals in excess of budget. Korach confirmed
approximately $15 million in actual sales tax revenues are estimated above the FY21 adopted
budget amount of $20.9 million. Chair Liang asked how fast the City could get money from the
investment portfolio (liquidate). Carlos Oblites discussed the liquidity of the portfolio and the
various options the City has. Oblites reminded the Committee that liquidating investments
results in potential realized gains and/or losses. Oblites also noted that staff are in constant
communication with he and Chris regarding cash and investments activities. Oblites also
provided a presentation on the City’s portfolio. Councilmember Moore confirmed the purpose
of the LAIF state pool for the City and asked if other agencies solely rely on LAIF. Oblites
discussed the varying resources, knowledge, and staffing levels between agencies.
4. OPEB & Pension Section 115 Performance Report – 10 minutes
Mitch Barker provided a presentation on the Section 115 Trusts. Councilmember Moore
requested the slides be sent to the Committee and posted online. Rick Rosenthal provided a
presentation on the Section 115 Trusts and their respective performance. Councilmember Moore
asked about the dip in 2018 and what occurred. Rosenthal explained the political climate in 2017
and its impact on 2018 investment performance. Korach reminded the Committee of the time
and the remaining agenda items.
5. Interim Report on CAFR and AUP by Independent Auditor – Kathy Lai and Matt Geerdes
provided a report on the interim phase of the audit and the next steps leading up to final
issuance. Councilmember Moore requested the slides be sent and posted.
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6. HdL Contract and Refund Error – Korach provided a briefing of the staff report. Peggy
Griffin spoke on this item thanking the Committee and staff for the report and explanations. She
emphasized the issue of invoice date versus date of payment. She also questioned the existence
and effectiveness of internal controls regarding the candidate refund error. Vice Chair Chen
asked about the outstanding balance yet to paid to HdL and how that will be resolved. Korach
noted that a contract amendment was brought to City Council but not approved and that staff
were directed to bring back more information on the item for further consideration. Vice Chair
Chen asked if there was sufficient budget to make the payments. Korach explained the issue of
invoices not being entered into the financial statement and as a result, no budget issue existed.
City Manager Larson expressed his desire to have an opportunity to look into the matter
further. Vice Mayor Chao asked who has the responsibility of alerting the City of the excess in
rendered services. Korach noted this matter was not the sole fault of any one department or
individual, but rather it is a collective responsibility of the contractor as well as the department
responsible for managing the contract and/or function. Chair Liang asked about the tracking of
the contracts as it relates to the accounts payable process. Korach explained that contracts are
generally not included in the backup for invoice processing, but that encumbrance and budget
controls are in place to ensure invoice payments do not exceed the contract. In this matter, the
invoices were not being entered into the financial system timely and that is a contributing factor
to how services rendered exceeded the contracted amount. Councilmember Moore asked about
the FY19 and FY20 adopted budget amounts for contract services being less than the contracted
amounts and what the significance of the budgeted amounts is. Councilmember Moore
expressed concern about the purchasing policy and the authority of the City Manager to amend
the contracts. She noted GFOA’s best practice for setting up a formal process for maintaining
records of complaints/concerns of this nature. City Manager Larson reflected on his previous
employer experiences, noting that instances of overbilling, although rare, do occur. He
discussed his desire to reach a resolution regarding the HdL matter. Korach added an
explanation on the budgeted contract services amounts and their correlation to executed
contract amounts, but would need additional time to review the details in order to provide a
complete and accurate response. He also reminded the Audit Committee of the internal audit
work plan and the fraud waste and abuse program that is slated to be completed during FY21-
22 that will surely assist in the independent maintenance and record keeping of audit related
observations, concerns, and complaints. Councilmember Moore motioned to move items 6, 8, 9,
and 10 to a special meeting to be scheduled. Vice Mayor Chao seconded. Motion carried
unanimously by all members present.
7. Audit Committee Meeting Frequency
Larson and Korach provided a briefing on the staff report. Vice Mayor Chao recommended
having eight (8) regular meetings for purposes of predictability. Councilmember Moore noted
that City Council provided direction for the Committee to meet monthly. She preferred having
eight (8) predictable/regular meetings. Vice Chair Chen noted she was fine with having eight
(8) meetings, but to have four (4) of them to be reserved as special for purposes of attendance.
Vice Mayor Chao expressed concern about establishing special meetings due to the lack of
attendance requirements. Councilmember Moore echoed the Vice Mayor’s comments. Vice
Chair Chen assured her intention is not to miss any meetings. Vice Mayor Chao proposed
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scheduling special meetings for the remainder of the calendar year and revisit this discussion at
the Committee’s next regularly scheduled meeting with proposed changes to the frequency
effective for the next appointment of Committee members. Committee Member Song stated she
was flexible with the various proposals made by Committee Members. Peggy Griffin agreed
with Vice Mayor Chao’s recommendation, but also expressed concerns about being able to miss
special meetings and recommended that the special meetings be pre-scheduled and agreed
upon. Vice Mayor Chao motioned to direct staff to bring this item back at the next regularly
scheduled meeting. Councilmember Moore noted that a motion is not required if the Chair
desires to have it added to the agenda. Councilmember Moore motioned to move items 6, 8, 9,
and 10 to a special meeting to be scheduled. Vice Mayor Chao seconded. Motion carried
unanimously by all members present.
9.Budget Format Review
Councilmember Moore motioned to move items 6, 8, 9, and 10 to a special meeting to be
scheduled. Vice Mayor Chao seconded. Motion carried unanimously with Vice Chair Chen
absent.
10.Follow-up on Previous FY Management Letter Items and Management Response
Councilmember Moore motioned to move 6, 8, 9, and 10 to a special meeting to be scheduled.
Vice Mayor Chao seconded. Motion carried unanimously by all members present.
11 - Embezzlement Debrief – Councilmember Moore motioned to move items 6, 8, 9, and 10 to
a special meeting to be scheduled. Vice Mayor Chao seconded. Motion carried unanimously by
all members present
OLD BUSINESS
None.
STAFF AND COMMITTEE REPORTS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 6:45 p.m.
Recording Secretary:
Zach Korach, Finance Manager