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December 08,1971r! ' CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Telephone; 252--4505a.- MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE ON DECEMBER 8, 1971, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER CITY HALL, CUPERTINO,,CALIFORNIA. SALUTE TO THE FLAG Chairman Ryner opened the meeting at 7:30 PM with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL. Members present: Adams, Gatto (8:20), McLaren, Chairman Ryner Member absent: Sargent (in hospital) Staff present; Director of Planning & Development Jim Sisk Planning Technician Mike Sheppard Recording Secretary Lois Inwards MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING 1. Approval of Architectural and Site Approval Minutes of November 17, 1971. Moved by Member Adams, seconded by Chairman Ryner, to approve the Minutes of November 17, 1971, as submitted. Motion carried, 2-0 Member McLaren abstained WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS 2. None requested. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 3. None requested HC-45 Page 1 Nov. 17th Minutes approved as written HC-45 Page 2 Driveway to be on Richwood Dr H-Control and Tentative Map to go to Counc. at same time I Neighbor interested in exterior lighting Applicant's proposal MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 8.,.197144 H-CONTROL MEETING PUBLIC HEARINGS 4. Application RC-51,133.1 - Robert L. Boughton, Jr., requesting approval of site, architecture;: landscaping, lighting, signs and underground of utilities for professional office building to be located at the southwesticorner of Miller Avenue and Richwood Drive. (Loc. Map, Ex. 1) A brief history of the previous transactions on this property were presented by the Planning Director., The Planning Technician showed colored slides of the site from the East, North and the West. The site plan was displayed. The Traffic Engineer recommended a'32' wide driveway to this site from Richwood Drive. Typical elevations were shown, as well as a detailed landscape plan. Member Adams noted there has been no Planning Commission approval to date on this, so any H-Control action would be contingent on the Planning Commission approval. The'[Planning Director said the Architectural and Site Approval and the Tentative Map will come before the City Council at the same, time. He added that the adjacent residents were contacted this date. Mr. Robert Boughton, 17129 Ventura;Blvd., Encino, California, was present to answer any questions. He wanted to cooperate with the City in every way possible. Chairman Ryner asked for comments from the audience. Mr. John Zems, 101.65 Vicksburg Drive, Cupertino, said he knows this property has been rezoned to Professional Offices for several years, but he was present at this meeting1to see what the plot plan looks like. He is particularly interested in the lighting proposed. Mr. Boughton said he has made many trips up here from Southern California to see what direction the City wanted the development of this property to take. The plan is for a slump stone building with tile fascia and extensive landscaping. He tried to keep the whole thing within the periphery of what the City would like to see here. The sign is very small in comparison to the size of ;,the building. He was cautioned that it is imperative the entire air conditioning units be completely hidden within the fascade of the bLildirg. It is real rather than imitation slump stone. The tinted" glass is a dark brown with rather a copper tone to it. The compl.etei.building will be used as an insurance office. j I MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 8, 1971 H-CONTROL MEETING Chairman Ryner noted the absence of sidewalks on the plan. Mr. Boughton said the sidewalks are entirely around the property. There is an elevated walkway to the rear door from the parking lot and one leading to the front door, with public sidewalks all the way around. Moved by Member Adams, seconded by Member McLaren to close the Public Hearing on the architecture. Motion carried, 3-0 Landscaping Mr. Boughton said the plans were drawn by a party here in Cupertin so they would know what plants would do'best in this area. The Architect and the landscape people have received copies of the H-Control conditions. Member Adams asked about the fencing. The Planning Director said there is an existing redwood fence. This particular zoning does not require a masonry wall between it and residential property. Mr. Zems said he understood at the time of rezoning that there would be a screen of evergreens along his property line. He sug- gested Italian Cypress. The present plans call for low plantings: Member Adams noted the plans call for a slump stone trash enclosurE in the corner. He recommended the addition of some taller -growing shrubbery to offer the adjacent, single -story units more privacy. Moved by Member Adams, seconded by Member McLaren to close the Public Hearings on the landscaping. Motion carried, 3-0 Lighting Mr. Boughton said there is an overhang around the entire building. On the bottom side of this overhang the lights are flush. There are two lights over the sign up, under the soffitt and they will shine toward the sign. There will be 3 of.the eyeball fixtures. In addition, there will be fixtures over .the front door and two rear doors. They will be flush with the soffitt. There will be a starlight, roof -mounted light to illuminate the.parking lot. These will be mounted above the tile. Most workis done during the day, but it is sometimes dark before they all leave:the premise HC-45 Page 3 Sidewalks Public Hearing on arch. closed Landscaping Redwood fence exists Tall evergreens called for Public Hearing on landscaping. closed Lighting HC-45 Page 4 Low-level lights should be considered here Signs Roof lights undesirable Roof lights "balls of fire" Public Hearing on lighting closed Public Hearing on signs closed MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER E. 1971 H-CONTROL MEETING Chairman Ryner asked the applicant if he had considered low-level lights within the planter area rather than the roof lights. Mr. Boughton said he is afraid of the potential vandalism; lights on the roof will discourage this. Chairman Ryner said the low-level lights should be considered because of the adjacent residential. Signs There will be a small logo sign, visible from Richwood Drive, and the other sign will be fronting on!Miller. Mr. Zems said the lights on the roof will do the job for the office building but will be undesirable for the residents nearby. He felt that low-level lighting would do tie iob better. Chairman Ryner was in favor of 3 or 4 lights in the planter. Member McLaren was concerned about the lighting of the parking lot. Mr. Boughton wanted to light the parking lot because of the possibility of theft of tires, etc., from the cars in the lot. Mr. Zems said the type of roof lighting Mr. Boughton plans to use won't give foot candles but will give foot Lamberts. He said they are called "balls of fire" and can blind you at 500 feet. *He used to be a Lighting Engineer with P.C.&'E and was involved in the lighting in industrial parks, etc.., Moved by Member Adams, seconded by'Member McLaren to close the Public Hearing on lighting. i Motion carried, 3-0 Signs Member Adams asked the applicant if he had considered the logo be placed or. the middle rather than the corner of the building on Richwood Drive. Mr. Boughton saidl!the tenant indicated his preference. It will be a brown, enamel sign. � ' Moved by Member Adams, seconded by!I'Member McLaren to close the Public Hearing on signs for this annlication. Motion carried; 3-0 The Planning Director said the undergroun.din; will the Tentative Map has been reviewed. Chairman Ryner desire to have i, suggested the motion should indicate the development in conformance with i be discussed after the Committee's the Ordinance. 0 MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 8, 1971 H-CONTROL MEETING Moved by Member Adams, seconded by Member McLaren to recommend to the City Council approval of application HC-51,133.1 per the exhibits submitted, subject to the standard conditions, and sub- ject to approval of the Tentative Map by the Planning Commission prior to submission of this application to the City Council; with the additional condition that Italian Cypress -trees be planted along the South portion of the property on approximately 15' centers and subject to the additional condition that the two pair of spots on the roof be deleted and parking area lighting be provided by means of approximately 5 low-level light standards to be accepted by the staff prior to the submission to the City Council. AYES: Members Adams, McLaren, Chairman Ryner NOES: None • ABSTAINED: Member Gatto ABSENT: Member Sargent Motion carried, 3-0-1 5. Application HC-51,274 - Mobil Oil Corporation, Stevens Creek Blvd. and Wolfe Road, requesting approval of landscaping and signs (continued from November 17th meeting) (Loc. Map, Ex. 2) 6. Application HC-51,102.1 - Mobil Oil Corporation, Stevens Creek Blvd. and Stelling Road requesting approval of landscaping and signs (continued from November 17th meeting) (Loc. Map. Ex. 3) The Planning Director stated that telephone conversations indicat Mobil would like to have the above two applications withdrawn. So moved by Member McLaren, seconded by Member Adams. Motion carried, 4-0 7. Application HC-51,267.1 - Cal -Neon Sign Company, requesting approval of sign plan for Florentine Restaurant, Allario Shopping Center, 10275 S. Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. (Loc. Map, Ex. 4) Mr. Cliff Bush, 364 North:Market,.San.Jose, was representing the applicant. HC-4 5 Page 5 HC-51,133.1 approved w/conditions HC-51,274 withdrawn HC-51,102.1 withdrawn HC-45 Page 6 Replace paint sign with plastic one Public Hearing; closed hC-51,267.1 approved The proposal 2-story building on Lot 14 MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 8, 1971 H-CONTROL MEETING The Planning Technician said the applicant is proposing to remove the painted sign and replace it with'a 4 x 8 plastic sign. It will have a white background with blackjand red lettering. Member McLaren asked why the change. Mr. Bush said the applicant ii feels the present sign is an eyesore. Moved by Member Gatto, seconded byMember Adams to close the Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 Moved by Member McLaren, seconded day Member Gatto to recommend to the City Council application HC-51267.1, subject to the plan submitted and the standard H•-Contr6l conditions. AYES: Members Adams, Gatto, McLaren, Chairman Ryner NOES: None ABSENT: Member Sargent Motion carried, 4-0 8. Application HC-51,088.10 - Sobratto-Berg Properties requesting approval of change in south wall for previously approved light industrial structure, Lot 13, ',est. Valley Industrial Park. (Loc. Map, Ex. 5) Mr. Carl Berg, 2775 Middlefield Road, Palo Alto, was present to discuss the proposal. The Planning Director said a previous plan has been approved by this body. The applicant -is r;e-v involved in going before the Planning Commission to adjust the lot lineslibetween Lots 13 and 14. The request before this body at this time is to install a mechanical equipment screen of cement, asbest6s board on the easterly (rear) portion of the building. The screen will be painted to match the existing screen presently on the westerly (front) section, Mr. Berg said the only change is ttie North elevation to put in windows as are on the South side. They are now putting in a two-story building on Lot 14 and they, think it will be more pleasing to the occupants of Lot 14 to look at windows and extensive landscaping rathet..than a blank wall. He said they own both lots. 0. E MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 8, 1971 H-CONTROL MEETING Moved by Member Gatto, seconded by Member Adams to close the Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 Moved by Member Gatto, seconded by Member Adams to recommend to the City Council approval of HC-51,088.10, subject to the.standardll H-Control conditions and attached exhibits, with the following additional_ provisions: At one year from this date, if the adjacent property has not been filed for building, that this Committee have a chance to re-examine this 13' strip for landscaping; also con- tingent to and subject to Planning Commission approval. AYES: Members Adams, Gatto, McLaren, Chairman Ryner NOES: None ABSENT: Member Sargent Motion carried,-4-0 9. Application HC-51,088.11 - Sobratto-Berg Properties requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping and lighting for office building to be located on Lot 14, West Valley Industrial Park. (Loc. Map, Ex. 6) The Planning Director said the proposal is for a 30,000 square foo two-story office building. Site Mr. Carl Berg, 2775 Middlefield Road, Palo Alto, said silver dollar eucalyptus and purple plum trees will be planted in the planting strip between the driveways. In looking at the plans, Member Gattc noted there would be only a 1' 6" wide planter in which to put trees. Mr. Berg said he would have to check this out with the landscape architect. Member Gatto asked about the walkway. Mr. Berg said there will be a walkway on the left side. Visitor parking is in the front and employee parking in the rear. It was suggested they could increase the width of the planter if the driveway were narrowed. Director Sisk said that in West Valley Industrial Park, screening is pro- vided for the parking. They are 8 to 10 spaces over the required parking ratio, with the same ratio as Vallco Park. Only the top floor is leased at this time. Ll HC-45 Page 7 Public Hearings closed HC-51,088.10 approved w/conditions Planting strip too narrow Parking HC-45 Page 8 No additional signs needed Air cond. units concealed Public Hearingi on Site closed] Architecture Trash enclosure Public Hearing on Arch. closed Landscaping I MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 8,. 1971 H--'CONTROL MEETING Member Adams asked if the tenant for the ground floor will also need a sign. Mr. Berg said they don't anticipate the need for a sign on the outside of the building. a In answer to Member McLaren's question, Mr. Berg said he feels con- fident they have enough clearance for any future needs as to air conditioning units on the roof. Member McLaren stressed the fact that the City does not want any more fences constructed on the roofs to conceal roof apurtenances. Chairman Ryner asked for comments from the audience. There were none. I Moved by Member Adams, seconded by!Member McLaren to close the Public Hearing on the site. Motion carried, 4-0 I� is Architecture Mr. Berg stated that, instead of the normal tilt -up, it will be a very heavy, rough wood and stucco structure with Spanish motif. There will be a 6' wide balcony in the middle of. the front. The colors are dark brown and cream -color stucco. They will probably use Mission tile in some shade of red. Member McLarenisuggested they take a look at the color of the roof the of the PaloOAlto Savings and Loan building. Chairman Ryner asked about the trash enclosure. Mr. Berg said it is composed of a 6' high redwood fence. Chairman Ryner noted that if built as the plans indicate, a dipsy dumpster could never get in and out of the trash enclosure; it probably needs to be redesigned. i Moved by Member Gatto, seconded byl;Member Adams to close the Public Hearings on architecture. Motion carried, 4-0 I, Landscaping Member McLaren asked for a presentaii tion of the landscaping adjacent to the freeway. She feels that the ice plant indicated along the trash enclosure is insufficient. Mr: Berg said there will be eleven 15-gallon silver dollar trees, five 5' to 6' redwood trees, and ice plant will be used as a ground cover. By Ordinance, there is a 6' minimum on trees. • • r1 U MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 8, 1971 H-CONTROL MEETING HC-45 Page 9 Member Gatto asked what type of maintenance plan is proposed. Maintenance Mr. Berg said they have a full-time gardener. plan In answer to Member McLaren's question, Mr. Berg said it will be Sprinkler completely sprinklered except the trees will be watered by hose. system Chairman Ryner called attention to the standard conditions requir- ing sprinklered 'landscaped areas in Industrial Zones. Moved by Member McLaren, seconded by Member Gatto to close the Public Hearing on landscaping. Motion carried, 4-0 Lighting In answer to Member Gatto's question about the exterior lighting, Mr. Berg said they will be flush with the building and go straigh up. There will be two lampposts at the corners of the rear of the building. They can have them on a time clock. The applicant agree to Member Gatto's suggestion to cut down the 125 watt lights. Chairman Ryner asked for comments from the audience. There were none. Moved by Member Adams, seconded by Member Gatto, to close the Public Hearing on lighting. Motion carried, 4-0 Moved by Member Gatto, seconded by Member McLaren, to recommend to the City Council approval of application HC-51,088.11, subject to the standard H-Control conditions and Exhibits A-1, C and D. The landscaped area between the two lots is to be increased to a mini- mum of 4-feet wide; the parking strip on the South side of the property for four cars to be removed and replaced with landscaping to more effectively screen the parking lot; reduce the light in- tensity at the base of the columns to under 100 watts; and the trash enclosure is to be redesigned to insure access to the dipsy dumpster. . AYES: Members Adams, Gatto, McLaren, Chairman Ryner NOES: None ABSENT: Member Sargent Motion carried, 4-0 E Public Hearing on landscaping closed Lighting Public Hearing on Lighting closed C--51, 088.11 pproved /conditions HC-45 i MINUTES OF THE DECED113ER 8, 1971 H-CONTROL MEETING Page 10 Application HC-51,088.12 - Syntex Analytical Inst, requesting 110. approval of roof screen for air conditioning equipment, West Valley Industrial Park, 10040 Bubb Road, (Loc. Map, Ex. 7) IMr. R. J. Grenier, of Rudolph and Sutton Contractors, was present to answer any questions. i Roof screen The Planning Technician said the application is to install a roof screen of the same material as the existing screen: asbestos wood painted. Chairman Ryner asked if the existing fence was put up after the build- ing was built. The Planning Director thought this was the case. Units could go Chairman Ryner asked what size of mechanical equipment is going on on ground level,the roof. Mr. Grenier said four pieces of equipment are going on Ithe roof. From a standpoint of economics, they have to go on the (roof. Chairman Ryner asked if it is physically possible to put the !air conditioning units on ground level. Mr. Grenier thought it jmight be possible. lllChairman Ryner asked for comments from the audience. There were none. Public Hearing i IMoved by Member Adams, seconded by Member Gatto to close the Public closed ;Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 HC--51,088.12 Moved by Member Gatto, seconded by ;Member McLaren to recommend continued continuance of application HC-51,08',8.1.2 to allow the applicant time jto restudy the problem of locating the air conditioning equipment inside, or not to be visible on the roof. AYES: Members Adams, Gatto, MCLaren, Chairman Ryner NOES: None (ABSENT: Member Sargent Motion carried,j4-0 MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 8, 1971 H-CONTROL MEETING . 11. Application HC-51,241.5 -- Oak Meadows Development Corporation requesting approval of site, architecture and landscaping for a 211-unit condominium development to be located.1600 feet west of Foothill Expressway on Fermanente Road. (Loc. Map, Ex. 8) After having sat through the City Council meetings on this proposed development, Chairman_ Ryner decided to set some ground rules, It was not his intent to cut off any valid and/or relevant discussion, but he wanted the audience to refrain from repetitive discussion. The Planning Director said the landscaping will come before this Committee at a later date. PD zoning has been granted to this pro- perty. The common green areas will be owned and maintained by the Homeowners' Association. The residential units have been clustered in the flat area, with the hilltop remaining as open. space. The � parking ratio is 4.45. There will be two parking stalls for each unit as well as visitor parking areas. No more than 30% of the structures in the southeast,corner of the property can be 2-story. Slides of the site plan were shown and described. Of major im- portance is the intention to retain the mature oaks on the property There should be provision for children to get to the schools. Instead of improving Voss Avenue for access to the schools, the applicant proposed extending sidewalks to continue down Stevens Creek Blvd. to Lebanon. There will be a tunneling effect coming through the sound mound for access to Stevens Creek Blvd. Elevations showed the types of structures and. roof lines. There will be some retaining walls throughout the project. The majority of the units will be able to gain the 20 x 20 garage enclosures, except there will be a problem in the southeast corner. Mr. Barry Bobbitt, 7291 Coronado Avenue, San Jose, said 17.1 of the 43 acres will be left open for'public use. Member Gatto asked if the public would gain access to this open space. The Planning Director said this has not as yet been resolved. The City wants to retain an easement for bike paths, etc., up there. Mr. Bobbitt said they do not plan to do any contouring in Phase I. There will be a specially designed sound mound, a slump stone wall and generous landscaping along Stevens Creek Blvd. The street pattern has been kept to a minimum that will serve all the people. Every effort will be made to preserve the mature oaks. The tunnel is 8' high, and it will be lit and landscaped. They are anticipatii a 23 - 25 month time table. The recreation building will be included in Unit III or IV. All utilities will be underground, including radio and TV antennae. On the south property line there is a difference of about 9 feet between this and the. neighbors' property. 11 HC-45 Page 11 Ground rules Overall plan 17.1 acres left open space Applicant's statements HC-45 Page 12 Cost and size of units Fire retardent roof mat'ls Citizen's :questions on time table MINUTES OF THE DECEMf3ER 8, 1971 H-CONTROL MEETING In answer to Member Adams, Mr. Bobbitt said the living units will run 1100 square feet to 1800 square feet. They will cost between $28,000 plus optionals and $35,000 plus optionals. Mr.. Bobbitt said they have installed a 36' concrete pipe to take the water off the land. The Planning Director commented that there will be a 9' wall next to one of the units. Mr. Bobbitt said;he already has a buyer for this unit who is an ardent handball player. The location of some of the mature trees dictate custom homes will have to be built around them. Member Adams commented that when there are fires in the foothills down in Southern California. they spread like mad. He asked what provisions have been made to guard aga..nst this Mr. Bobbitt said they are using fire retardent roof materials. Oak:'trees run down into the recreation areas. Member Gatto asked for an explanati6n!on how they arrived at the decision to have these long rows of houses. Mr. Bobbitt explained the staggered buildings and roof lines. He said there will be a minimum amount of grading in the soUtlaeast corner of the property because of the neighbors and because of the mature oak trees. He said there is a distance of from 851'to 105 feet from the backs of these homes to those of the neighbors' Mr. Charles Lowe, 10i10 Lebanon Drive, asked about the time table. He asked at what point in the development does the sound mound and wall go in. He also asked about.the wall on the east boundary. He thinks there should be a more care-ful look at the tunnel that will bring the children right out onto Permanente Road. It would be shorter to go to Voss Avenue. Mr. Bobbitt-said thejchildren will come from the under- pass onto a sidewalk. The redwood b' fence is still going to be there before you get to Permanente Road. ::she lower part of the sound mound will be built with Phase I and the balance as soon as possible. The east boundary fence will be built along with those units, Phases II and III. 1-story versus IMr. Francis Wallace, 2284 Medina Lamle, said there is a very low spot in the southeast corner that is an old"creel,_ bed. When the duplexes 2-story units I along Medina were built they were r+stricted to one-story. He felt this restriction should carry-over to the adjoining development. Mr. Bobbit said there will be six-listory and five 2--story units on the jsouth property line, FA'here there is a. 7' difference in elevation they can have two --story homes There woi't'be more than two 2Tstory homes (together. i 0 0 0 MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 6, 1971 H--CONTROL MEETING Mr. Franks, 10201 Lebanon Drive, said he was not aware until this meeting of the restricted use of the open space at the top of the hill. He also wanted to know whose responsibility -it is if there are any drainage problems. The Planning Director said it is the responsibility of the developer to construct and maintain proper drainage. The City wants the top of the hill left open for bike trails, etc., that are left open. Mr. Bobbitt said he would like to see the top of the hill made into a City Park at some point in time. It is not as steep as.Linda Vista Park. Moved by Member Adams, seconded by Member McLaren to close the Public Hearing on the site plan.- 0 Motion carried, 4-0 Mr. Bobbitt next discussed the architecture. He said the units of double construction with heavy shake roof. Considerable time HC-45 Page 13 Discussion of the open space and drainage Site plan public hearing closed areiArchitecture discussion has been spent by the architect and interior decorator to make sure they did not create a step or stacking effect. Only the top of the gable of a single -story home would show over the 14-15' sound mound The underpass will be of smooth concrete. They will'put wood timbers or something similar at each end of it. The sound mound can be walked up and will be landscaped. There will be a 6' masonr wall on top of the sound mound. They are using earth tone colors. The heavy siding will be painted earth colors. Heavy cedar shakes will be used on the roofs. There will be functional fireplaces of masonry with wood trim. Member Gatto questioned the wall and mound. It will be within a couple of feet of the eave line. He asked why they are hiding the buildings. Mr. Bobbitt said their only aim is to make it pleasant. All banks will be contoured with an undulating effect. It is a distance of 50 - 60` from the slump wall to the rear of the homes. On the westerly portion, the sound mound can either have or not have a wall on it. Member Adams was concerned about the roof lines. Member Gatto said the site plan and linearity of the plan seem to be in conflict with the terrain. Individuality is needed for the units. He feels they are fighting the natural terrain of the hill. Mr. Bobbitt said all the homes going down the hill will have decks. Patios will be furnished where there are no decks. 11 Undulating effec on banks Plan is in conflict with the terrain HC-45 Page 14 Trash collectioI Concerned citizens' remarks Loss of view and privacy Public Hearings closed MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 6. 1971 H--CONTROL:MEETING The trash and garbage pickup will be just like in regular homes. Garage door openers will be furnished. Mrs. Francis Wallace, 22848 Medina,'wanted to know what the roof lines will look like from their duplex across the fence. She was told they will see a back gable coming down and a single story. Mr. Charles Lowe, 10131 Lebanon Drive asked if the developer has gotten away from the 2-story returning to a single story type home. Mr. Bobbitt said this has not been changed. Mr. Bobbitt said they are consolidating their 2-story units toward the center of the project. The open space is basically confined to the top of the hill. Chairman Ryner asked if there were any more comments from the audience because this is the last opportunity to speak up. When this (comes before the City Council again;it will not be a public hearing. I Mrs. Wallace does not want two --story units on the south boundary. imr. Richard DeLuis, 22816 Medina, said he and Mr. Wallace own all ,the property along Medina and;they object to two-story homes along (tine south side. Mr. Bobbitt said he understands their concern and Twill try to cooperate wherever possible. Member Adams wondered if the publicjconcern about the two-story units Fs due to blocking the view or the lack of privacy. He, personally, jcould see no objection to their seeng'the roof lines and possibly the tops of the windows. Mrs. Wallace said they experienced this situation before and they lost $5,000'!to $7,000 because of the loss (of view and privacy. She can't visualize an attractive wall of wood. She asked again to see renderings from their point of view of their duplex. Member Admas asked the applicant if'';he would be willing to have only single story homes on the south side. Mr. Bobbitt said they are (trying to avoid a step effect and want to vary the elevations. Mrings. ed by Member Gatto, seconded by Member Adams to close the Public Motion carried ,''4 -o 11 J L MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER G, 1971 H-CONTROL MEETING Member Gatto was concerned about the almost continuous wall around the property. The linearity conflicts with the contours of the property. The architecture does not form a unified project. He would like a more definitive rendering of the architecture correlation of the contours of the site. On these bases, he moved for a continuance. Member Admas feels he has not seen enough of the precise archi- tectural plans to make a decision. Member McLaren noted these people are not protesting the plan, but have specific points to which they object. Moved by Member Gatto, seconded by Member Adams, to continue application HC-51,241.5 AXES: Members Adams, Gatto, McLaren NOES: Chairman Ryner ABSENT: Member Sargent Motion carried, 3--1 .r.. . UNFINISHED BUSINESS -- There was none. N-EW BUSINESS --- There was none, ADJOURNMENT Moved by Member Gatto, seconded'by Member Adams to adjourn the meeting at 12:40 A.M. Motion carried, 4-0 ATTEST: 1%7m. E. Ryder City Clerk APPROVED: /s/ Stephen C. Ryner Chairman HC-45 Page 15 HC-51,241.5 continued