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CITY OF CUPERTINO, State of California
10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino
Telephone: 252-4505
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE
APPROVAL COMMITTEE ON JUNE 9, 1971 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER
. CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
Chairman Ryner opened the meeting at 7:38 P.M. with the Salute
to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Adams, Gatto, Marquez, McLaren, Chairman Ryr_er
Members absent: None
Staff present: Director of Public Works Yarborough
Recording Secretary Lois Inwards
MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING
1. Approval of Architectural and Site Approval Minutes of
May 19, 1971.
Member Gatto had the following corrections to the Minutes:
Page 2, middle of the page; the motion carried, 3-0 rather than
5-0; Page 7, second and third paragraphs under Item 5, Mrs:
Manning is a landscape designer rather than landscape architect;
Page 10, third paragraph from the top, the man's name is Mr.
Haussmann rather than Hoskins and third paragraph from the
bottom should read ". . . Mr. Meu, the architect, offered to go tc
stucco above the 21 high parapet ."
Moved by Member Gatto, seconded by Member McLaren to approve the
Minutes of May 19, 1971 as corrected.
Motion carried, 5-0
COMMUNICATIONS
WRITTEN
2. Letter from Sears Roebuck regarding lighting fixture in the
parking lot for the bell tower.
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Minutes of
May 19th
approved as
corrected
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Sears request
approved
PW Market
discussion
Alternatives
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(Moved by Member Gatto, seconded by Member Adams to request Sears to
file a formal application for their request.
Motion carried, 5-0
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3. None requested.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. Application HC-51,230.1 - George Meu, Architect, 553 Mission
Street, San Francisco 94105, requesting approval for archi-
tecture of screening for air conditioning units for PW Market
located at the southwest corner of the intersection of
Homestead Road and Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road.
(Referred back to H-Control from City Council 5/3/71)
(Loc. Map, Ex. 1)
The Director of Public Works showed colored slides of the site. He
said a solution to the problem of the air conditioning units has
beer, prepared that involves lowering them and mounting them or. the
canopy to the rear of this building: The staff had discussed the
possibility at the same time as the screen is installed, addition
of a small mansard screen to the canopy. The applicant felt this
was an extreme requirement. The staff then went through the
alternatives with the applicant. The Director of Public Works
added that no solution has been offered for the small units on the
roof over the bakery.
Member Adams asked the staff and the applicant to briefly go over
each of the alternatives. Mr. Meu deferred to the engineer,
Mr. John Haussman, of Hussmann-San Francisco, Inc., 189 Constitution
Drive, Menlo Park. He said the first suggestion was to drop the
condenser into the machine room. Interference was caused by the
water drain line and, too, they would need from time to time to go.
in and service the machines. The second suggestion was to raise
the condenser and enclose it within,a fence. After much discussion,
the applicants decided to go straight down between two pilasters
located above the frozen food box. :To put the condenser on
ground level would involve moving the machinery.
Member McLaren asked how much of the unit would project above the roof
if it was placed in the rear with a mansard roof. The engineer said
it would project about 2 feet.
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Member Gatto asked Mr. Meu about the canopy construction. Mr.
Meu said it would be metal. Member Gatto then asked if some wood
or something could be introduced to repeat the front of the
building. Mr. Meu thought this unlikely because the canopy is
painted, galvanized metal.
To Member Adams' question, Mr. Haussman said the canopy screen
would cover three sides. He said they did not have on this plan
the other two apurtenances. Member Adams said he would like to
see some treatment to the canopy similar to the front. Mr. Meu
said the weight of tile would cause a problem. Member Adams
commented that sometime in the future the property across the
highway will be putting in higher buildings and this will be
noticeable.
Chairman Ryner was in favor of no apurtenances above the roof
line on the west side. Mr. Meu said there are two air condition-
ing units above the bakery and they show about one foot. They
will try to move them further toward the center of the building,
which should solve the problem. Chairman Ryner repeated that he
wants no roof apurtenances to show. Mr. Haussman said they are
air makeup units and supply fresh air to the bakery. They are
12 inches high and are now at their lowest position. :Rather than
moving them, he wondered if the Committee would be opposed to
some type of screening. The Committee indicated they were oppose
to any screening or fencing. Mr. Haussman then added that this
is a temporary measure since Mr. Franco intends to develop more
buildings within two years, at which time all of these apurten-
ances will not show. He. asked if the Committee would agree to
this proposal until the additional buildings are built. There
was no direct response to this question at this time.
Chairman Ryner asked for comments from the audience. There were
none.
Moved by Member McLaren, seconded by Member Adams to close the
Public Hearings.
Motion carried, 5-0
Member Adams commented that if the Committee does decide on ap-
proval he would recommend a condition on the basis of treatment
to the canopy to the front or wood treatment; also, would condi-
tion the approval that the two heating units for the bakery be
reduced in height by some means to be worked out with the staff.
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Unit to be
put on canopy
Treatment to
canopy
requested
Two units
above bakery
Public Hearings
closed
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HC-51,230.1
approved
w/conditions
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.Member McLaren said these two units were discussed at the last.
meeting, when Members Adams and Marquez were not present. She
asked if a restaurant was not proposed for the adjacent building.
The applicant said a junior department store was proposed there..
Member McLaren felt that with the impending development of the
adjacent property, the two heating units did not present a perma-
nent problem. Member Adams disagreed because he said you can't
enforce a correction after the property is developed. There is
no assurance the adjacent property i.s going to be developed. He
did not like the idea of a condition to be enforced two or three
years hence.
Member Gatto wanted to consider the solution with the equipment on
the canopy. It solves two of the main problems: conceals the
condenser and the exhaust scoop. If given a little study, it can
be an enhancement. As far as the two units in the center, it is
a decision about how strict an interpretation of the Ordinance
is called for. His feeling is that the adjacent property will
shortly be developed and those smaller units will be forgotten.
He did not think it warranted the moving of'those units.
Moved by Member Adams, seconded by Member Gatto to recommend to the
City Council approval of application HC-51,230.1 - PW Market,
subject to the standard conditions of approval, the 14 standard
conditions and additional conditions as follows:
15. The equipment screened canopy shall be treated with wood to
enhance its appearance.
16. The two heating unit apurtenances to be lowered in height;
to be a height selected with the staff's assistance.
17. Approval to be based upon Exhibit A.
18. Subject wood treatment of the canopy and the lowering of the
apurtenances noted to be agreed upon with the City staff
prior to submission to the City Council for approval.
19. If support for the canopy is necessary due to the wood treat-
ment, it also is to be approved.
Discussion followed. Member Marquez said he would like the recom-
mendation except he did not agree with Condition 16 regarding
lowering of the two heating units.
Condition. 16 An amendment to the motion by Member Marquez, seconded by Member
deleted I McLaren was to delete Condition 16..
Vote on the Amendment:
AYES: Members Adams, Gatto, Marquez, McLaren, Chairman Ryner
NOES: None
Motion carried, 5-0
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® Vote on the motion:
AYES: Members Adams, Gatto, Marquez, McLaren, Chairman Ryner
NOES: None
Motion carried, 5-0
5. Application HC-51,230.2 - Berwick -Pacific Corporation
(Goodyear Appliance Store), P.O. Box 77143, San Francisco,
California 94107, requesting approval for architecture and
landscaping for building to be located on Sunnyvale -
Saratoga Road near Homestead Road.
(Loc. Map. Ex. 2)
Mr. Andrew Berwick, P.O. Box 77143, San Francisco, California was
® the applicant. The Director of Public Works showed colored slide,,
of the area. He said the building is to be located at the south-
east end of the Payless store. A rendering was also displayed.
The tile treatment will be the same as on the market. This will
be a drive -through structure.. The site plan showed how the
building is oriented to the Payless structure. The parking lot
will be open to the adjacent lumber yard to avoid having traffic
going back and forth onto Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. Landscaping
was discussed next. The ground light will be similar to those
already in the parking lot. They have added some bottle brush
plants along side the wall.
Member Adams requested the applicant to give the design of the
air conditioning unit. Mr. Meu said the Goodyear air condition-
ing unit has a parapet all around it, with the air conditioner
dropped down 3-4 feet.
® Member Gatto, regarding the rolling doors, asked if they are
glazed or solid. Mr. Meu said they are solid, with one band
glazed. When asked why they need doors on both sides, Mr.
Berwick said each door leads into two bays. There will be a
total of 8 bays. He said it is not a drive -through operation.
You could drive through, but it is not practical.
Chairman Ryner asked the exact dimensions of the trash enclosure.
Mr. Meu said it is the same width as the one for Payless. When
specifically asked, he said a dipsy dumpster will not be used
here.
Member Gatto asked if Mr. Meu intended mission tile, brick work
and wood to be the same coloring as the rest of the shopping
center. Mr. Meu concurred.
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Staff `s
presentation
Air
conditioner
Rolling
doors
Trash
enclosure
Trim
r
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Landscaping
Exclude sign
Lighting
Public
Hearing
closed
HC-51,230.2
approved
w/conditions
Tate's
Country
Records
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On the landscaping, Mr. Meu said we have two existing trees on the
property which will have to be moved back 3-4 feet, due to the
new traffic pattern. The other landscaping will be against the
building. On each end they will put fruitless mulberry trees.
There will be four bottle brush plants against the building. The
balance of the shrubs will be juniper, Algerian ivy ground cover,
and some tan bark will also be used." The rest of the landscaping
is already existing on the property. All planting areas will be
fully sprinklered.
Member McLaren noted that the motion should specifically exclude
the sign so there won't be any misunderstanding.
To Chairman Ryner's question, Mr. Meu said the lighting would
have 60 watt bulbs. Member Adams asked where the three mushroom
lights would go. He was told they will go at the end of the
building. Member Marquez asked if the applicant was anticipating
lighting their sign. The applicant said it could go either way.
Moved by Member Adams, seconded by Member Gatto to close the
Public Hearing.
Motion carried, 5-0
Moved by Member Gatto, seconded by Member Marquez to recommend
approval of application HC-51,230.211(Goodyear Appliance Store),
subject to the standard conditions and Exhibits A and B submitted
herewith,.pointing out that the. signs are excluded totally from
this approval. and, that this building is to be aesthetically tied
to the rest of the buildings in that complex with respect to
materials used.
AYES: Members Adams, Gatto, Marquez, McLaren, Chairman Ryner
NOES: None
Motion carried, 5-0
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
6. Tate's Country Records - New sign reported.
The Director of Public Works said this business has changed hands
and the Building Department will work with them for a solution to
this problem.
The Director of Public Works said from now on he will provide the
Committee with a summary of action rather than individual reports.
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Chairman Ryner asked if there is any way, at the time a business
Alert public
changes hands, to notify these people of the Architectural and
to function of
Site Approval regulations of the City of Cupertino. The Director
this Committee
said the public is unsophisticated as to the City's rules. It is
very difficult to reach them all, due to the quantity of trans-
actions of this type taking place every day. Member Adams
suggested perhaps the City Attorney could come up with a method
of alerting new businessmen of the rules the the Committee.
Chairman Ryner repeated he would like to have some way of inform-
ing the people that these conditions exist. The Director said
the staff, as a general rule, does not go out and look for trouble.
Most complaints are brought to the attention of the staff by the
public. Member Marquez believes the people who come in for a
building permit or a license should be made aware of the function
of this Committee. Member Adams observed that perhaps 90% of the
businesses changing hands must go through real estate brokers --
perhaps this is where they should learn about the Architectural
and Site control. This did not seem practical to the others.
MINUTE ORDER
Moved by Member Adams, seconded by Member Marquez to ask the
Staff to
staff to find a way of spelling out the problem and the solution
identify
of making the public aware of the Architectural and Site Approval
problem and
requirements.
solution
Motion carried, 5-0
7. Shire Records - Sign complaint
Application to be filed next week.
8. Buckskin Den - Sign complaint
Application to be filed next week.
9. Illegal car painting activity adjacent to Bubb Road near
Speedee Mart Store. Sign indicating all work guaranteed
and quick service.
There was a report that they are no longer in business; car
painting activity has been discontinued.
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10. Crossroads Center Landscaping. •
There was no further information and no action taken.
11. Status Report of H-Control applications.
a. City Beautification Program
The Director of Public Works said the Citv Council has adopted the
City Beautification Program with minor modifications. It will be
sent out to the Committee Members.
b. Taco Bell
The Director of Public Works said the Taco Bell people got rid of
the orange and used earth tones of blue, green and tile color on
their sign. The logo effect is still there.
C. Parking Ordinance
There will be a review of the Parking Ordinance as to parking stall
size. Councilman Frolich wants it back to 10 X 20.
12. George Ahamnos, Screening for Air Conditioning Unit. Don's
Burger Villa, Stevens Creek Boulevard and Portal Avenue.
The applicant was not present. The Director of Public Works said
he was taking the equipment down for the summer.
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A. Member Adams asked the next time we have an application
similar to that by Mr. Meu, how can we avoid these potential
headaches? Can we ask the owner to insure the lease agreement
include the roof apurtenances shall not show? Perhaps another
condition should be that these are preliminary plans and any
final plans showing air conditioning units shall be reviewed by
the Architectural and Site Approval Committee.
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The Director of Public Works said we should tighten up the staff
requirements as well as the Planning Commission and H-Control.
There could be a requirement that the developers bring the site
plans to the Committee, particularly on hillside developments.
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® Member Gatto said a check list,is a must for all building permits
issued requiring a personal initial or signature of the applicant
indicating he is aware of the requirements.
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Chairman Ryner said Councilman Frolich brought up the produce
market at the last Council meeting. It was asked who determined
they are within the Ordinance. The Director of Public Works
said the Building Inspector said this was a pre-existing, non-
conforming sign. .The market keeps coming up with new innovations
on the original signs. This is a problem of enforcement.
Chairman Ryner questioned the Chief Building Inspectors inter-
pretation of the Sign Ordinance in that perhaps it is not a
pre-existing sign since it is a paper sign that is changed
periodically.
Member McLaren suggested pictures be taken at different times
showing the excessive signs and handing them to the City Attorney.
The Director said periodically, two members of the Street Depart-
ment go through the.City and remove all non -conforming signs and
store them in the corporation yard.
Chairman Ryner said West Valley Industrial Park has beautiful
trash enclosures with nothing in them and dipsy dumpsters along
side them. The staff should check on this.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Member McLaren, seconded by Member. Gatto to adjourn the
meeting at 9:23 P.M.
ATTEST:
/s.! Wm. E. Ryder
City Clerk
APPROVED:
/s/ Stephen C. Ryner
Chairman
Signed check
list
Produce
market
Sign Ordinance
interpretation.
Pictures of
signs
Trash
enclosures