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November 7th, 19739 , CITY OF CUPERTINO HC-93 10300 Torre:Avenue,-Cupertino Page l Telephone- 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING,O.F THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE OF NOVErIBER 7, 1973 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL, CUP.ERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG' The meeting was opened at 7:37, p ma ::by;"Chairman McL,ar.en with:. the.Salute,:to the Flag. .ROLL CALL Members present: Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren Members absent: Dressler Staff present: Senior Planning Technici.an'Toby Kramer - Associate Planner Robert Cowan (10:10) Recording Secretary Ruth Cox POSTPONEMENTS: None WRITTEN 'CO'L�EUNICAT IONS: -None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None PUBLIC HEARINGS° to Application HC-51,29602 of Bob's Big Boy Family Restaurant represented by Robert En Eakin requesting approval of lands.capi.ng lighting and, ITIC-51 signing for a restaurant facility located at the south-west corner of �' 6b's Alves Drive and Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road; Referred back to H-Control sEig Boy from City Council meeting of September 4, 1973. Staff report: Staff member Kramer reminded the committee the sign portion of this application had been reviewed previously. The .proposed sign k follows the basic intent of the new Design Guidelines for the Saich corner. The landscaping has been executed by Jim Coleman and includes modifications k11 , to the site. These modifications have incorporated the suggestions made for mounding; clumping of trees and shrubs Ground cover ,in front will be grass�E All plants along the street frontage are'5-gallon size or larger. Lighting, calls for two standards. Applicant has stated that pole suggested in guidelnes`(Weyerhauser Woodscape) is not available at this time, and he is interested. in, possibly using another poled Slides were shown of site which indicated applicant's fears that. the sign would be blocked by adjacent Clean Scene sign "were unwarranted. The sign Y will be clearly visiblefrom traffic on Highway 9, i HC-93 1 MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER T, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Page 2 • Slides were shown of building sign "Steaks, Shakes and Pancakes". These letter will cover an area 5' x 5'3" which will be within ordinance. Slides of lighting planned on building and the decorative lanterns were shown. Mr. Jim Coleman, architect, answered I'iember Koenitzer that the street trees for Alves Drive had not been determined as yet. Member Koenitzer questioned the growth habits of several proposed plantings; he said all trees seemed to be deciduous. Mr. Coleman pointed out several ever- green trees. In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Coleman said that the mounding to the right of parking entrance was approximately 30". He described the mounding plan. He assured Member Sallan that the mounding and covering would give adequate screen- ing. Member Koenitzer said he would like the tree in front of the building to be an evergreen; also some raised area or. curb at Alves Drive. Mr. Coleman said there is 23' from curb to the parking lot with 5' sidewalks: There will be plants of varying heights which will screen autos. On some mounding, there will be a flowering ground cover to give accent. Member Sallan said the variety was good. She would like Liquidambar substi- tuted along Highway 9 and in the parking area. All plants should be 5-gallon except those really close to the building. Mr. Coleman pointed out he followed the theory of 1-gallon plants for fast growing items and 5-gallon size for slow growing items. Member Sallan said those plants were not that fast growing and directly abut cars. She said.there was a choice of increasing from 1 to 5 gallon size or some type of mounding approach on Alves Drive. Everything north of sidewalk could be mounded in varying degrees. Member Sallan also questioned distances on center of plantings. She was concerned about 5'-6' distances, feeling they should be 3'-4', particularly for the park. perimeters.. Also Rhus-lancea tree could be 15-gallon on Alves Drive side. In answer to Member Weinstein, it was explained the garbage disposal area is inside the building. Mr. Victor Newlove, 5767 Wilshire Blvd., Los Angeles, architect, signed in to answer questions on lighting. Ile said it would take approximately 14 weeks to obtain the Weyerhauser poles and the restaurant plans on opening in 4 or 5 weeks. He said he did not like globes in par -King lots; they emphasize the poles and the parking area. He proposed to go to something more efficient for lighting the parking area. He showed the light source used by Clean Scene and noted some light would be coming from street lights. Member Weinstein pointed out the committee had proposed to implement uniformity of lighting for this quadrant. Other applicants for this quadrant should be contacted so uniformity could be maintained. MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING JHC-93 Page 3 there was more permanence to metal poles and these could Mr. Newlove said p be painted dark brown. They'.are about 14' in height and the plan called for two standards in the parking lot. Member Weinstein suggested instead: of two lights at 14' height that there be 4 lights -at 101. Mr. Newlove said economically the 14' standards would be better. Member Koenitzer 'said he liked the Weyerhauser fixture because it did not look like the typical industrial parking lot lighting.. Mr.'Newlo:ve said the lighting they were proposing would go directly into the parking lot . rather than outward.and upward as the Weyerhauser fixture did. Member Sallan expressed concern that any action counter to guidelines would adversely affect guidelines. Mr. Newlove was asked why the poles had not been ordered earlier. He said they had not wanted to order something they objected to. Chairman McLaren noted.the committee had not been notified of their objection's, • r The possibility of opening without lights was discussed. Ms. Kramer said they could put up temporary lighting. She also noted.the applicant's opposition to globes and suggested perhaps the globe could be changed as a compromise o Mr. Robert Eakin, 2270 Kendle St.; Cupertino said the electrician had order ed.the light standards and reported there would be a 14-week delay for any Weyerhauser pole. Chairman McLaren--asked if there was an alternate sign, Mr. Eakin said this was what had been used on new installation across the street• and. they assum- ed this was the desire of the committee. Chairman McLaren . asked if the committee felt. this portion of the application should be continued to consider other lighting Member Koenitzer said if the standards were to be changed, he would like to re -open consideration of lighting for the entire center. It was noted�lr- Eakin had been by-passed in this discussions Staff had been under the impression Bob's Big Boy had been notified,, but they had not. Chairman McLaren said she felt more study was needed. She asked -the appli- cant to come in with more information and other light standards to be con- sidered. Member Koenitzer felt staff should be aware that this should not hold up opening approval. Member Sallan said the manufacturer should'be contacted by :the City to verify -situation and lend support for need'of Bob's Big Boy for opening, Member Weinstein expressed his,, concern for some quantative measure for lighting; particularly the concept of many more poles of 5to 6',.,,height of low intensity, Mr. Newlove said he relies on his electrical engineer and manufacturers of lights themselves ; 11C- 93 Page 4 HC-51,29C approved w/ condi= tions MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7., 1973 H-COINTROL MEETING Chairman McLaren suggested Mr. Eakin and Mr. Boyd get together during the break and discuss lighting possibilities. sir. Boyd said they would be getting the Weyerhauser poles without any delay according to the Weyerhauser representative. Signing: Member Weinstein said this was a marked improvement over the other sign and generally within guidelines. He asked if the applicant would have any objection to reversing the colors. He said the "Steaks, Shakes and Pan- cakes" sign was of no value and would detract from the facade. He did not think it was necessary. Member Koenitzer said he did not feel the sign was unreasonable. He thought there would be less light intensity at night with the red background than if it were reversed. He was indifferent about the "Steak, Shakes and Pancakes" sign. Member Sallan asked about using some deep earth tone in place of the red on the sign. Mr. Newlove said they preferred to use colors that have been used for some 80 other stores as identity. Brown would not be as effective and would not project image. Chairman McLaren said she was pleased with the sign and the scaling down. With the fast traffic on Highway 9, the "Steaks, Shakes and Pancakes" sign would not be obtrusive. Mr. Newlove said this was graphic tradition of Bob's Big Boy. Member Weinstein ascertained the sign would be 8' above the sidewalk level. Member Sallan suggested mounding on w=:_dest portion of landscaped area. Chairman McLaren noted this was a Pub=-ic Hearing and opened the meeting to comments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, to close Public Hearings. _otion carried, 4-0 .2 Member Sallan moved to recommend approval of Application HC-51,296.2, Bob's Big Boy, with Exhibits C, C-1, E 1st hevision, E-2 1st Revision, F 2nd Revision, the lighting portion to be continued to next regularly scheduled meeting at which time applicant and City will investigate original Weyerhauser lighting to determine availability and to consider changes in styling for light fixtures. The sign portion of the application is approved. Relative to landscaping, it is approved ;with the following additional condi- tions: 0 MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING HC-93 Page 5 (1) Substitute 15-gallon evergreen trees for two Liquidambar.- trees 61 along Highway 9. ' (2) Substitute evergreen tree for Flowering,Crabapple variety in front of building. (3) Alves Drive to be mounded on widest portion along side of sidewalk: for the entire frontage. Mound to vary in height from one to four feet. (4) Continue mounding on west side of sidewalk along Highway 9 to entrance to parking lot, (5) All shrub plants along parking lotto be 5-gallon size. This includes Raphiolepis as well as Agapan.thus o (6) Rhus_lancea trees to be changed to 15-gallon with. the exception of g the'two`trees on south portion, these to remain 5-gallon,..size. (7) All shrub plantings to be 3 c on .center' with. the exception of, those plants immediately surrounding restaurant building. Seconded: by Member Weinstein. AYES* Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein -and Chairman McLaren NOES* None, ABSENT* Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 Chairman McLaren notified the applicant this would be heard by the City ANIL Council at its November 19, 1973'meetinge MW 2. Application HC-51, 311a 3 of Mitchell Bagar requesting approval of PHC-51, 311. landscaping for a duplex unit located at the southwest corner of Mitchell Randy Lane and'Hogue Court. Continued from H-Control meeting of _ Bagar September 5, 1973. Staff report: Ms. Kramer said this application was from meeting in September and the applicant is returning with revised plan.. Main change ` made were changing to Raphiolepsis and the lawn being changed to"Juniper. The parkway strip will utilize tanbarks and Junipers in addition to the street trees, Member Koenitzer remarked he would prefer., the lawn to the Juniper and Membe Sallan agreed, z i (i C-9 3 Page 6 i i HC-51,311.A approved w' conditions HC-51,027. Taylor Wheeler MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Mr. Mitchell Bagar, 10129 Randy Lane, Cupertino, said the plantings were being planned by a nursery and in answer to Member Weinstein assured the committee there would be sufficient ground cover. Member Sallan noted landscaping along fence was discussed at the previous meeting but was not shown on the revised plan. After a brief discussion, Chairman McLaren opened the meeting to comments from the audience. There were none. Member Sallan moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Sallan moved to recommend to City Council approval of Application HC-51,311.3, subject to standard H-Control conditions, enclosures C-lst Revision, and with the additional conditions (1) that on the legend where it sho.:as Peter Pan Agapanthus this be changed to Lily of the Nile variety. (2) landscaping be provided along fence in west yard and it be of the type entitled Nandina. Domestica, 5 gallon size, 5' on center. (3) in parkway strip the applicant is to use tanbark. and 5-gallon can size Junipers in addition to street trees. (4) As ground cover, where the legend shows Juniper, this to be changed back to lawn. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren . NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant was notified this would be heard by City Council at their November 19, 1973 meeting. -2 3. Application HC-51,027.12 of Taylor Wheeler Planning Corporation request- ing approval of site, architecture, -landscaping, grading, lighting and signing for five single -story professional office buildings located at the northwest corner of the intersection of Torre Avenue and Pacifica Drive. OR MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Staff report: Ms. Kramer used a tentative. map. of the northwest corner of Torre Avenue and Pacific Avenue to point out site. Guidelines used are those for Brian Terrace subdivision. There are five offices withi one driveway into site. She.pointed ou.t.two trash enclosures, sign place- ments and interconnecting parking area. The roof tile has been changed to flat concrete to tie in architecturally with the Frost office complex. A sample of tile and mate rial.on lighting was distributed to committee. Mr. Jim Jacobsen, 2828 N. Weshon, Fresno9':signed in. There were no questions on site. Architecture: The the would be dark red with antique tint to it. It will show more red than indicated by sample. Exterior walls will be I stucco finish of beige or chocolate color. 2x8 trim along bottom of dark brown wood. At each entrance will be a wood deck coming out from building. Windows will be tinted glass with anodized frames, Member Koenitzer questioned the doorways. Mr. Jacobsen said the reason for the keyhole effect was that from the wood deck to'the sun screen is only 6' so cutouts had been made to allow for people's heads. Chairman_McLaren questioned whether there were accomodations for disabled l people. The applicant agreed to provide a ramp for wheelchair patients. .1 The air conditioning units are concealed behind parapet walls. Wood screens are to provide light and also give privacy. The trash enclosures were described. Thev will have wood doors and the IP rest will be stucco finish similar in design to buildings. 3 Landscaping: Mr. Jacobsen described the planned landscaping. Member Sall a said deciduous trees were good for accent, but she would like to have one other one inserted on south side of entrance. It was noted there would be no interference with visibility of traffic flow by trees. In discussing types of trees, Chairman McLaren noted the City had.had problems with sidewalk damage from Oa1c tree roots. Member Koenitzer noted the need for more base planting around the building, especially building 5 at the east end. Mr. Jacobsen felt the berm and creeper would be sufficient. Member Sallan noted creeper should cover fast at 5' center. HC-9 3 Page 7 IIIC-93 Page 8 H.-51,027.12 approved w/ condi- tions MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Member Sallan questioned distances on center of oleander on west portion of property. She felt 10' on center would still have spaces between. Mr. Jacobsen said it depended on the type of oleander planted. Grading has been approved. Lighting: 8' standards with smoked glass were chosen. It was understood the bulb would show through dark globe. 1,1ember Koenitzer asked about lighting and it was explained there are 8 standards in the parking lot with additional lights on the building. Member Sallan said she liked the style but does not like to see light bulbs inside. Mr. Jacobsen said the frosted bulb would give a soft light. Member Weinstein suggested a clear bulb in the smoked glo.be. Signing: These are only directcry.signs with names and locations. Materials will be wood and the color will match the trim of the building. They .will be 6811 from base. The location of signs was discussed. Member Koenitzer suggest either having another sign or locating the middle sign more centrally. It was ascertained the owners had made arrangements for cut -through parking lots. The parking site is already approved; the whole development will be interconnected. Chairman McLaren opened the meeting to comments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC-51,027.12 to the City Council with standard H-Control conditions and Exhibits A, B, B-1, B-2, C and C-1 with the following additional conditions: (1) That at least one ramp be provided to each office for use by handicapped people. (2) That the Red Oak tree on Torre Avenue be changed to Holly Oak or some other evergreen Oak tree of 15-gallon size. (3) Directory sign for three buildings to the rear be moved to the center facing the driveway on Torre Avenue so it can be seen coming in that way. (4) An additional tree be added on the south side of driveway with possibly moving the other tree slightly to adjust for it. Seconded by Member Weinstein. • MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant was informed this would be heard by the City Council on November 19, 1973. _ At 9:55 p.m. Chairman McLaren announced a break, with the meeting reconvening at 10:10 p.m. 4. Application HC-51,321<1 of Estate Homes, Inc. requesting approval of landscaping for eleven. duplexes located on Maxine Avenue southerly of Homestead Road adjacent to Interstate -Route 85, Staff report: Staff member Cowan said this was continued from a meeting in August to allow staff and applicant to pursue de- sign alternatives for the sound wall adjacent to the freeway. There k' are two main, design constraints. (1) A certain amount of 'bureaucracy, involved and (2) grading problems existing on property, The property i.n_-thesouth. portion drains toward the freeway. The owner would have 1 to.import fill to create mound and existing orchard trees removed.. i Alternates A -and B_were ruled out; Alternates C and D are proposals. under consideration. 7 The staff recommendation is some landscaping be placed on State right-of-way. The City's concern is impact of wall from the freeway. Consultation with the landscape architect of the Highway Department could determine what shrubs should be used. Borrowing landscaping from inside to use,on outside of wall was suggested. Mr. Cowan said - the State had preference for certain types of. plants. Member Sallan complimented staff on application report which represent thought and preparation in contacting people. A slide transperancy of aerial photo showing existing trees and property line was shown, 'Also slides of area and other sound wall treatments in adjacent areas were shown. Chairman McLaren polled the committee and they agreed with `Staff " recommendation of Alternate D. HC-93 Page 9 HC-51,321.1 Estate Homes Inc. I HC-93 Page 10 MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Member Koenitzer suggested a method whereby certain trees could be removed from inside wall and placed outside so that the developer would have to add very few new trees. lie said he was surprised to see oleanders being used in back yards since they are poisonous. Member Sallan said her preference is Alternate D. She suggested taking out every other tree from inside of fence and placing to the outside. She suggested the developer could add clumping of 3 or 4 bushes lower out on the slope. Mr. Cowart said the State has a sprinkler system installed which might be a constraint on planting further down on slope. He suggested the committee should decide on number anc spacing, allowing State to come up with ultimate detailed solution. The applicant could then build wall and not be held UP. Staff member Kramer said the builder could plant on State property before building wall since it takes about 2 to 4 weeks to get full approval and State permit. She noted 14 trees on outside of wall spaced between lots 1 to 9 should be sufficient. The State and staff could work out the details. Member Sallan said she would .like to see the ultimate solution proposed. Member Weinstein.said he would not like to see an elimination of any trees from inside wall. He felt there should be an additional 12 to 14 trees planted on outside plus some sort of bush. Mr. Merve Hansen, 1741 Frobisher Way, Gspertino,. said he was not in favor of this discussion. lie wished to stay with Alternate C. He felt there was some precedence here; where did the City get the authority to require a builder to improve on property that he did not own? Chairman McLaren expressed surprise that this had not been discussed with the developer. Member Sallan pointed out the developer was not being required to plant any extra plants, merely to intersperse from one side of wall to the other. • Mr. Cowan pointed out it was not unusual for the City to require off -site improvements. It was also noted that if the developer wasn't building on this site, there would be no need foe the wall. Mr. Hansen said they were paying $15-$1.6 a linear foot for a wall where it would ordinarily cost $3.50 a linear foot. He realized the committee didn't like economics but it does come into play. He said the fence would cost $25,000 and now they wanted him to cover_ it up. Member Weinstein said the purpose was to make it more aesthetic to the public and the additional trees were only a matter of a few hundred dollars. Chairman McLaren pointed out this is a problem piece of property and the City was trying to alleviate the problem without creating a hardship. Mr. Hansen aslced for pictures of simulated brick wall to shown and referred committee to a brochure he had distributed. He described how wall could look. Mr. Hansen said the trees on the inside would break up fence appear- ance and fruit trees will have a softening effect. .,... _;. _MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1973.H-CONTROL MEETING HC-93 Page 11 Member Sallan said greenery was needed and the moving of the trees from .one side of the fence to the other should not be a problem economically. Mr. Hansen said the fruit trees were being left at considerable'expense and the fence was a $255000 cost imposed by the City of Cupertino, Chairman McLaren pointed out drainage flow would.be toward the highway and no fill would be. required by using Alternate Da Mr, Hansen said there was no grading ,on rear of lots; they had approval Of State to continue water flow. Another expense with the fence is that fence will have a sand base so that water can seep under fence and continue down the b ank . Chairman McLaren said this problem is relatively simple if it can be dealt with a local level and expressed hope for cooperation on the _ part of the applicant. Mr. Hansen said the staff was aware,of his feelings and that he had only received the written recommendation in the mail a few days ago.. Chairman McLaren noted this was a Public Hearing and opened the - meeting for comments from the audience. There were none, Member Weinstein moved, seconded by Member Sallan., to close Public t Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Weinstein moved to recommend approval of Application HC-51, HC-51,321.1 321.1 with standard H-Control conditions and in accordance with approved w/ Exhibits C, C-2, C-3 and that of the alternates fisted, Alternates D conditions is the one to be approved: In the landscaping plan, the oleanders are to be replaced with suitable shrubs of non. -poisonous variety, i.e. Xylosmao. The committee recommendation of trees for landscaping on the outside, of the concrete wall to be approximately 1.2 Monterey Pines grouped in clusters of 2 .to 4 in suitable locations along fence and witti possible continuing of other shrubs State has already planted there Perhaps another 6 or so might be clumped within the area along the ` fence. Seconded by Member Sallan. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan and Weinstein NOES:' Chairman McLaren ABSENT: Member Dressler Motioncarried°, 3-1 HC-93 Page 12 HC-51,075.37 Interstil Parking Lot MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Chairman McLaren explained she had voted no because she felt they were getting into something new and she would like to have more time and information on the procedural aspect of working with the State. She notified the applicant this would be heard by the City Council at their November 19, 1973 meeting. 5. Application H C-5].,075.37 of Vallco Park, Ltd. (Intersil Parking Lot addition) requesting approval of site, landscaping, grading and lighting for the expansion of the off-street parking lot located at 10900 Tantau Avenue. Staff report: Staff member Cowan said the property involved in this application is completely surrounded by other industrial property except the southeast corner which is adiacent to single family residences in Santa Clara. He referred to the two conditions ado-)ted by the Planning Commission and City Council, Conditions 16 and 17 of Resolution No. 1206. Lighting was a concern. Mr. William Tagg, 1619 Torrington Ave-Zue, Sunnyvale, said the lighting standard is the same standard used in several other developments in Vallco Park. The pole is 25' high with a doable light. In answer to Chairman McLaren, IIr. Ta-,g said there is a buffering of landscaped 3' berm and redwood trees staggered 1)' on center. The closest fixture is 75' from the property line. Member Sallan questioned perimeter of illumination. Mr. Tagg said there would be some light at base of fence until he trees are full grown. The fixtures have a sharp cut off. Member Weinstein asked if there had been any complaints about lights at adjacent developments and '1fr. Tagg said there had not been any. He then offered to move'the standard back to 85' from the property line. E There were no comments on site or grading. gyp; I Mr. Tagg described the landscaping plans in detail. Member Sallan suggested adding one or two trees on small corner to cover cars. Chairman McLaren announced this was a Public Hearing and open to comments from the audience. There were none. Member Sallan moved, seconded by Ilembr-r Koeaitzer, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1973 H-CONTROL FETING Member Sallan recommended approval of Application HC-51,075.37 with standard H Control conditions and Exhibits C and D with the following additional conditions* (1) That the lighting portion of the application is approved and that subsequent to installation a review is still possible should there be any problems generated by lighting fixture on the property. (2) That the fixture' designated 75' from south boundary line be moved to approximately 85 ' from the property line. (3) Relative to landscaping, that there be the addition of one 15-gallon tree in the planter area adjacent to the entrance of the parking lot on Tantau Avenue. This to be a 15-gallon can size of evergreen Ash or something similar. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. AYES* Members - Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren. NOES* None ABSENT* Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 Chairman McLaren notified the applicant this would be heard by the City Council at the November 19, 1973 meeting. 6. Application HC-51,075.371 of Union Carbide Corporation request- ing approval of site, "architecture and landscaping for a nitro MM gen gas 'plant located.at 10900 Tantau Avenue. qW Staff report* This application involved the same site of Interstil property. The applicant "is proposing to install a nitrogen gas 'plant within the existing parking area. Mr. Cowan said the applicant would k describe the building materials that would screen the nitrogen plant and' the trash enclosure adjacent to it.. Mr. William Tagg, 1619 Torrington Avenue, Sunnyvale, said the materials would be the same as on existing structure on. site. Landscaping* Staff suggested gas installation facing single "fam ly residences have -ample trees for coverage. The trash enclosure is adjacent to and southerly of the gas plant'. .The cold storage box extends above wall but it is. about 400' from property line andthere are trees in between. HC-9 3 Page 13 HC-51, 0 75.3 7 approved w/ conditions HC-51,075.37 Union Carbid Corporation IIC-93 Page 14 HC-51,075.3T approved w/ request MINUTES OF THE NOVLIBER 7, 1973 H-CONTP.OL MEETING Member Weinstein asked if tilere would be any gaseous emissions. Mr. Roy Stark, Union Carbide representative, said no, they would be invisible. He said it goes through several mufflers so it will not be heard or seen. Member Sallan inquired how plant would function, i.e, if there would be any truck traffic. I'Ar. Stark s aid no, the plant was proposed to eliminate all but about 5 trucks a month. It was ascertained there would be noshing noxious about the emissions. Member Koenitzer questioned noise generated by the cooling tower, vaporizer, etc. Mr. Stark said considerable work had been done on this. They had retained an independent testing lab :o establish noise level now at the property line. The client has agreed there will be no change; i.e, nothing over the ambient level of 50-53 deci'-)els. Architecture: Same materials will be used; light tan slumpstone with wood cap across top. 'Ir. Stark described intent to completely harmonize with surroundings. Landscaping: Chairman McLaren asked about screening of cold box tank. Mr. Stark said it will be following same existing landscaping plan. He noted the cold box tank is recessed into a 7' pit. Member Koenitzer said he would like to see some taller planting around side. The wall is 14' high and plants are :.'-3' shrubs. He suggested using Italian Cypress. Mr. Stark pointed out narr��., space available and said they were afraid the car bumpers would destroy any plants extending above bumper height. Ile also said he did not think a lot of trees would be in harmony. They had hoped to get something that would grow up wall. Ivy was suggested. A discussion of planting along wall Around cold box tank was held. Mr. Stark suggested contacting landscape architect to determine the best • solution. Chairman McLaren announced this was Public Hearing and opened the meeting to comments from the audience. Therc-were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by .'ember Sallan, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend to City Council approval of HC-51,075.371 with standard H-Control conditions, 1.xhibit A and additional request that their landscape architect review use of xvlosma and consider plant that will climb P-10' up the wall, coordinatir.g TIiLh staff on selection. Seconded by Member Weinstein. AYES: Members Koenitzer,Sallan,?einstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 • MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING It was announced this would be heard by the City Council at their November 19, 1973 meeting. Staff member Kramer suggested taking applicant waiting in <audience before considering change of copy items. It was so moved. 9. Application HC-51,050.3 of John Brooks Boyd representing Bank of America requesting modification of the.si-gn exception for the Bank of America located at the north side of Stevens Creek Boulevard approximately 300 feet west of Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. r Staff report: Mr. Cowan reminded the committee this applica tion received approval for .a sign exception. in September. When this committee reviewed it, they indicated they felt the sign in front was too big. The applicant is now willing to reduce sign to 8' x Pl", and to trade the two logos on the north and east elevations for the: Bank of America words to be placed next to doors on the west and south elevations. Mr. John Boyd, 454;Forest Avenue, Palo Alto, passed two photos around. He said the bank felt people would not be able to identify the bank by the logos alone. In answer to Member. Sallan, Mr. Boyd explained when the ASAC had,, asked for the. sign to be lowered, it became out of scale., People coming down the street may or may not see sign. When you pull into parking lot, the sign will be hidden. The bank would like to E identify entrance. They are asking the committee to trade a smaller sign at the street for words to identify the building from the park- ing lot. Member Weinstein said he could not support the change. Member Koenitzer said he did not; see why l' high letters would be needed to identify the entrance. Mr. Boyd offered to change -letters to loll, but Member Koenitzer suggested 4" letters. Mr. Boyd.pointed out letters are-10' back under the canopy. Member Sallan noted there was now no identifying of building on the north side and asked why this was not now important. Mr. Boyd said it was still important to them, but they felt it was more important to have bank identified at .the,street. level. H C-9 3 Page 15 HC-51,050.3 Bank of America HC-9 3 MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1.9 7.3 IT -CON CROL MEETING Page 16 After an extended discourse between Mr. Boyd and Member Weinstein, Chairman McLaren opened the meeting to comments from the audience. There were none. 1 Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 HC-51,050.03 Member Koenitzer recommended approval of HC--51,050.03 of modification to approved w/ original application as proposed. Seconded by Meriber Weinstein. ame_idment I An amendiaent was offered by Member Sallan that the height of letters be changed to 10" from 12" in height. Seconded by Member Weinstein. VOTE ON AMENDMENT AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Ami!ndment passed, 4-0 VOTE ON MOTION AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 REVIEW OF CHANGE OF COPY OF SIGN FACE: 7. Cal -Coast Sign Company (Fis'lierman's Village) requesting change of copy of an existing sign located at 19930 Stevens Creek Boulevard. ?Zs. Kramer showed the proposed sign wh:i_c1 would change the name of an I esi.;ting restaurant. The sign has a background with blue letters and symbols around outside per -miter. i Member Koenitzer moved approval of change of copy to Fisherman's Village. Seconded by 1.4ember Sallan. Motion carried, 4-0 e ' s MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING j HC-93 Page 17 j 8. Cupertino Sewing and Vacuum Service Center (formerly The Art Boutique) requesting "change of copy of an existing sign located at 10072 Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. The proposed sign of brown background with green letters shaded with black was displayed: Member Sallan moved approval of change of copy as requested. Seconded by Chairman McLaren. Motion. carried 4-0 NEW BUSINESS: It was explained the staff is initiating a new program whereby one member of the staff will be part of inspecting party to make sure landscaping is done as approved. Member Sallan proposed an addition to conditions. Mr. Cowan said there are not that many cases when then landscaping was not maintained, but in such case the bonding program or cash deposit could be required. Ms. Kramer said the°Karpet King people had been contacted about their! sign and would be followed closely to make sure they conform. Member Weinstein introduced two things to staff - an article about what Palo Alto is doing about signs and sign ordinances and he suggested the committeenotice the Holiday Inn sign in Palo Alto. Chairman McLaren referred to the San Jose Realtors 'bulletin of October 18 relating to signs for open houses and violations. She also referred to Member Koenitzer's sign ordinance preamble. NNW Mir Member Sallan said shehad some serious. concerns about the Bumblebee �a landscaping. She said she would present a -report to ,.staff of the on site inspection she was intending to do. .Member Sallan also said she was presenting at the next meeting a report on designating minimum size of shrub plants. She .said she would like to incorporate this later on in a statement of general. landscaping conditions. Member Sallan also suggesteda meeting if possible in the future with the City Council to ineract with philosophical differences in. regard - 1-.n 4„t-ornrAt^.i-1nn of .di an nr(iinanrPR_:'. - !:. a IiC-9 3 Pate 18 Approval of Sept. 19 and Oct . .3, 1973 Minutes Adjournment ;MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER - 7, 1973 H-CONTROI. MLETING APPROVAL OF PIINUTES: Minutes of the Regular Meeting of September 19, 1.973. Memiler Koenitzer moved to approve minutes of Septeniber 19, 1973 as published. Member I einstein seconded the motion. Motion carried, 3-0-1 Member Sallan abstained. Chairman 2M,.Laren abstained on discussion of sign ordinance portion as she had left meeting. Minutes of the Regular fleeting of October 3, 1973.. rlemjber Koenitzer noted that on page 5, the motion should read 2-1. Under New Business, page 6, Member Sallan would like to have the last sentence in line 4 deleted. Member Koenitzer moved to approve mir.utes of October 3, 1973 as corrected. Seconded by 'Member. Sallan. Motion carried, 3-0-1. .MemJ.)er Weinstein abstained. ADJ OUIN,M'ENT : The meeting was adjourned until_ the next regular meeting on November 21, 1973. Adournment came at 12:35 a.m. ATTEST: /s/ Wm. E. Ryder _ City Clerk APPROVED: / > / Juanita 'VcT,a.ren Ciairman • 5