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July 18th, 1973CITY OF CUPERTINO 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE OF JULY 18, 1973 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG i Chairman McLaren opened the meeting with the Salute to the Flag at 7:30 p.m. ROLL CALL 9 Members present: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein. and Chairman McLaren , Members absent: Member Dressler Staff present: Associate Planner Robert Cowan Recording Secretary Ruth Coy HC-87 Page 1 I APPROVAL OF "MINUTES: Minutes of Regular Meeting of June 20, 1973 On page 4, last paragraph, Member Weinstein wanted the minutes to show th"at.the applicant had stated there would be steam coming out of top of building under various atmospheric conditions, he assumed it would be on days of high humidity. On page_12, paragraph 3, Member Weinstein noted that. Mr. Zubrychp had:: not been present. Member Weinstein moved that minutes be approved as corrected.- Chairman McLaren seconded the motion. Members Koenitzer and Sallan abstained from voting as they had not been present at the meeting: i Motion carried, 2-0 Minutes of Regular Meeting of July 5, 1973 On page 6, paragraph 4, second line, the second sentence should read "The applicant had asked...." On page 9, last paragraph, it was noted Member Koenitzer's name was" misspelled.. Chairman McLaren noted.on page 2, paragraph 4, it was only one Coun.cilma who.; objected to color of Shoe Fair sign. i i k 40 HC-87 Page 2 IHC-51,320.1 MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Member Koenitzer moved to approve minutes as corrected. Member Salian seconded the motion. Motion carried, 4-0 POSTPONEMENTS: None WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. Application HC-51,320.1 of Brite Lite Neon (The Karpet King) requesting approval of a sign plan for an existing commercial building located at the northeast corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard and Randy Lane. Continued from H-Control meeting of July 5, 1973. Staff Report: Mr. Cowan noted the application had been continued from the previous meeting because the applicant was not present and there had been questions of concern from the committee. Staff had been directed to notify the applicant of these concerns which had been done. Mr. Cowan briefly recapped the application by showing slides and pointing out these areas of concern. The sign was technically correct in all aspects; size and shape in relation to future signing on building was main concern. Mr. John Basher, DBA, Brite Lite Neon Company, explained he was representing the applicant. He explained the applicant had purchased the proposed sign. about 6 months ago for another location and in order to avoid the outlay of $500.00 for another sign, was trying to utilize the sign on this store. • Chairman McLaren ascertained the sign would not extend above the building but would be even with the roof line. Applicant would be willing to eliminate other signs on wall and parapet. With regard to concern of future signing on store, Mr. Basher said the whole building was owned by Mr. Charron and it was doubtful if he would give up -any part of store. Mr. Basher_ also said Mr. Charron had sign on pole which applicant would have liked to have also. Member Weinstein questioned sign in w:_ndow. Mr. Basher said he could not answer for applicant. Regarding sign placement, Mr. Basher said the sign would go flat on the wall. Member Weinstein asked about hanging the sign from the parapet. Mr. Basher said this would be a hazard as the edge of the parapet was only 11' from sidewalk; a sign hanging 5' down could create a problem. A MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Member Weinstein asked about another sign that would be more fitting .� aesthetically. Mrs Basher said he was trying to help the applicant avoid spending another $500.00 after having used the sign for only six months Member Koenitzer felt -a more attractive sign could be designed which would.be longer and more narrow. He -did not.object to size, but the, black and white letters did not appeal to him. Member Sallan asked to have the location of sign on building pointed out. HC-87 Page 3 Member Weinstein questioned if the sign had an illuminated interior, and if, it would be left on all night. Mr. Basher said it was illumi- i nated but would probably not be left on all nights Mr. Basher said if color was preferred., the letters could be painted redo Member Weinstein said the difficulty was not with color of the letters, but the whole concept of aesthetics of sign and what would happen to signing for rest of building. Chairman McLaren ascertained the sign on Randy Lane would be removed _and painted to match the rest.of the building. - Chairman McLaren noted this wasa Public Hearing` and invited'' comments from the audience. There were none. Member Weinstein moved; 'seconded by Member.Sallan, to close Public i Hearings° i Motion carried, 4-0 Staff member Cowan said one suggestion would be to issue a temporary i permit for this particular sign. After a brief discussion, Member Weinstein. moved that application- HC-51,320e1 be approved subject to standard H-Control conditions and w according to Exhibits F, F-1 and F-2 with the very specific condition that additional signs on the parapet and red sign. facing Randy Lane j be removed when the proposed sign in this application was`erectede Future signing for the fascia along Stevens Creek Boulevard is to conform to this sign, at least generally. Seconded by Member al AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES< None 1 ABSENT: Member Dressler c i I: Motion carried, 4-0 HC-87 Page 4 HC-51,230.9 MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Chairman McLaren informed the applicant this would be heard before City Council on August 6, 1973. 2. Application HC-51,230.9 of J. D. Vanderlaan (S & H Green Stamp Store) requesting approval of site and architecture for a commercial building located at the southwest corner.of. Homestead Road and Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. Chairman McLaren asked about air conditioning unit on existing building, noting this was to be reviewed when any future building added. Staff Report: Mr. Cowan said the application was for a proposed addition to Homestead Square adjacent to PW Market. The original application was for Site and Architecture. After review it was determined there was a parking deficit on site in terms of about 46 spaces. It had been noted that prior to approval parking should be resolved and applicant had brought in revised drawing to extend parking to the west. Since plan has been sub- mitted, the committee would be approving a modified architectural site and grading plan for center. Slides were shown. Mr. Cowan pointed out proposed scheme for future expansion, noting location of Green Stamp store. He also showed the site plan submitted which would be adding 46 parking spaces including 2 or 3 in the back of the building. Landscaping plan was not included, but would be a continuation of what was already there. Site: The loading platform in back and driveway along side for truck circulation were discussed. Architecture: It was noted that if building was not added on it would be a drab elevation facing west. Mr. Cowan said this problem had been dis- • cussed with the applicant and he had agreed if there was no future expansion he would be prepared to resolve it in some manner. Chairman McLaren noted future addition would hide the air conditioning unit. In looking at slides of existing architecture and landscaping in front of store, Chairman McLaren noted slides had been made before some of the landscaping had died out. These plants should be replaced. Member Sallan noted also that trees were deciduous and in the winter the only landscaping was the ivy covering. Chairman McLaren commented there was a huge amount of parking and she did not understand why more was needed. Mr. Cowan said the Engineering Depart- ment is conducting a parking survey. At t1ae present time although the square footage of building used for storage does not demand more spaces, the ordinance does require so many spaces for so much square footage. There could be a lesser amount needed by the time the center is completed. A MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1978 H-CONTROL MEETING Mr. Cowan pointed out the Engineering Department had said grading would not be a problem. Member Weinstein ascertained there would be, garbage and trash enclo- sures in the rear. Mr. Cowan noted that although signing is not part of the application the applicant should be addressed with" regard to future signing to see how it would fit in with design. Member Koenitzer said if the building was to be connected, he did not see how there could be any other type than what is.already there. Mr. J. D. Vanderlaan, 28 N. First Street, San. Jose, made the observa- tion that in a development of this '.kind, you. never know what will be gotten for the rest of tenants. He said it was not planned to leave a long blank wall which would be unaesthetic and uneconomical.' The intent is to make a good looking, uniform center. Mr. Vanderlaan said: while the parking was not needed now,, they would go ahead and build it. He pointed out plans for 60` to be used for a series of small shops which would face the 60` Green Stamp store. He also pointed I out how this would hide the air. -conditioning unit. The air condition- ing unit on proposed building would be behind the parapet. Mr. Vanderlaan said the ultimate plans for shopping center called for f 60' driveway to be continued all the way to the west and a street deeded to the City of Cupertino which would be built when the center was completed. In the interim,' it was,;more economical to put in, a driveway of temporary nature since this would be replaced with permanent parking development or buildings. Member Sallan. asked Mr. Vanderlaan if therewas .any. possibility of increasing number of planters from front of -building, to street line. Mr. Vanderlaan said they would be willing to go along with any recommendation staff made. He pointed out too many islands create a jparking hazard, and they would prefer to see larger areas rather than so many little ones. He also pointed but they were not an integral pa t j of Payless and if there was,a deficiency in landscaping, PW Market would keep theirs up A Member Koenitzer said he would like .to see temporary Landscaping along west wall of Green Stamp store; something to break up long line of wall. Mr. Vanderlaan. said- this would be a wasted operation °and he hated to spend money on it. Portable pla'n.ters.were suggested. Mr. Vanderlaan pointed out this would causethem to makea wider driveway for trucks In answer to Chairman McLaren,`Mre`Vanderlaan said they ,were now in discussion with users for an additional 22-,000 feet. HC-87 Page 5 HC-87 Page 6 HC-51,230.9 approved w/ conditions MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Member Sallan pointed out in situations of this type plants in boxes have been used and at time of final construction these can be planted wherever it is suitable. The committee is concerned with interim appearance. Member Weinstein expressed concern abc ut entire parking lot landscaping. Mr. Vanderlaan pointed out center is only two years old and in accord with city requirements. He repeated the intent to make the center landscaping uniform throughout. Mr. Koenitzer said he recalled some discussion regarding more landscaping and the strip was made 5' wider than required. After seeing center done, he would look for even more planting Cut for an addition of one row of parking would not feel justified in asking for more planting development than exists on present portion. Chairman McLaren questioned requesting; upgrading of existing landscaping. More planting would make it more attractive. Member Sallan said she felt the landscaping was very sparse and pointed out that landscaping in parking lots can be most attractive and not be a hazard. She pointed out on Homestead Road frontage only concrete and cars are seen. Landscaping plans should be brought in or at least an upgrading of planting. Member Weinstein expressed a concern that upgrading landscaping might make it look lopsided. After further discussion regarding landscaping, a request for a variance was considered. Mr. Vanderlaan said they would have no objection to a stipulation that this is the last partial application without a complete landscaping plan. Mr. Cowan pointed out there is no ordinance stipulating of landscaping; it is strictly a matter of policy. 0 Mr. George Meu, A.I.A., 553 Mission Street, San Francisco, answered Chairman McLaren that he felt the signing should be the same as on existing PW Market and Payless. Chairman McLaren said this was a Public Hearing and asked for comments from the audience. There were none. Member Sallan moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public Hearing. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Sallan recommended approval of HC-51,230.9 to City Council with the standard H-Control conditions with Enclosures Exhibits A and B and the follow- ing additional conditions: A MINUTES OF THE inn 18, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING 1. If west elevation of proposed building is to become final elevation, the wall shall be treated architectur- ally. HC-87 Page 7 2. Planter boxes along the westerly wall of the proposed building to.contain some type of evergreen plant with the suggestion of Hollywood juniper; minimum number of iI of boxes to be 10.. 3. Additional planter in the center of the proposed parking area to contain an evergreen type of tree. 4. When rest of center develops, the applicant is to bring in full landscaping plan for parking: area as.well as frontage along Homestead Road. Also included in approval was Exhibit A-1 covering lighting, grad- ing and .extension of landscaping and parking. Motion was seconded by Member K'Oenitzer. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES- None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant was informed this would be before the City Council on August 6, 1973. 3. Application HC-51,28.4.1 of Ad -Art, Inc. (Fireside Thrift) requesting approval of,a sign plan for a commercial..build - ing located on thenorthside of Stevens Creek Boulevard, west of Blaney Avenue. Staff Report: Mr. Cowan passe,d,'exhibit of proposed sign around to the committee. He said the signs were technically correct in terms of ordinance. He pointed out in a limited way the addition of two signs modifies architecture of.building in the sense that the signs will extend below fascia and will not be compatible with front of porch structure. Slides were shown of building g and proposed signs. Member Koenitzer noted walls of building seemed to be mad6.u'p of panels. He asked the width:of the -,,panels, suggesting the signs might look better on first panel of wall rather th the p9-rtito,. than t Mr. Cowan said the panels were,�7'. plus a few inches and the, sign was 8. HC-87 Page 8 HC-51,284.1 continued MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H-CONTPOL MEETING Chairman McLaren suggested if signs hadn't been made perhaps they could be reduced to fit panels. Member Weinstein ascertained the present sign was mounted on a screen. He suggested replacing current sign with proposed sign. Member Koenitzer noted the current sign could not be seen until almost directly opposite it. A discussion followed on purpose of signs and how far they should be able to be seen. Mr. James McLey, 1715 - 64th Street, Emoryville, said he could use the same type of screen that is in back of CIT sign and continue it along front. He noted the shrubbery hides existing sign which is reason for asking for other signs. Existing sign is not seen going east on Stevens Creek Boulevard. The applicant showed pictures he had taken to substantiate this. He described the proposed signs and materials which would be used. In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. McLey said the red background with white letters trimmed in gold was the Fireside Thrift's logo. They would be illuminated signs with two bulbs per sign. Member Sallan said she thought the red would be too stark against the build- ing; the applicant offered to reverse the colors. Member Sallan said she would echo Member Weinstein's suggestion of moving sign to right and changing red. Chairman McLaren said she did not object to having signs at each end of portico. The applicant pointed out the two signs would be of less square footage than the existing one sign. Chairman McLaren announced this was a Public Hearing and invited comments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Sallan. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Weinstein said he was not convinced that two signs were an apt solu- tion. His recommendation would be to ask applicant to return with new study and another alternative that might not give as much exposure as two signs but would give better exposure than existing sign. Member Weinstein moved to recommend application HC-51,284.1. be continued with recommendation to applicant to return with alternate plan exploring with greater effort the possibility of using single sign to increase his exposure at Fireside Thrift. Seconded by Member Sallan. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan and Weinstein NOES: Chairman McLaren ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 3-1 MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING HC-87 Page 9 Chairman McLaren pointed out to the applicant the guidelines suggesr �i 3 r ted by the committee. She suggested Mr. McLe'y contact owner and get revision. When Mr. McLey asked for suggestions,.Member Weinstein said that signing is for identifying, not advertising. At 9:05 p.m., Chairman McLaren announced a recess, with the meeting reconvening at 9:12 p.m. 4. Application HC-51,321.1 of Estate Homes, Inc. requesting HC-51,321.1 approval of site, architecture and landscaping for eleven] duplexes located on Maxine Avenue southerly of Homestead Road. Staff Report: Mr. Cowan noted that in tentative map approval from the City Council, two of the three conditions stipulated directly related to the function of this committee. One, a sound barrier would be needed along the eastern and northern borders of the property to reduce the impact of noise, and secondly, there was the specific desire to preserve as many existing trees as possible. Mr. Cowan commented the grading plan had not been reviewed at this time but the site is relatively flat and should not present a pro-- blem. He spoke to item 16 of Resolution No. 1175 which said specimen trees on site and existing orchard trees should be retained in front and rear when feasible. The Engineering Department did not have the rear elevation of lots so could not ascertain how the grad- ing would effect the retention of trees. Slides were shown of the site and freeway. These was a. condition issued which required applicant, to retain ` acoustical. engineer who recommended the first six lots have 7' high,. sound barrier and remaining lots should have 9' sound barrier. ! Mr. Cowan noted there.might be a requirement that applicant receive a variance for sound wall. In discussing three trees ,on street property outside of fence, Mr• Cowan noted.the City was checking with the State to see if fence could be 'taken down if wall built. Existing Oak trees on site will remain. Chairman McLaren referred to an article from.Reader's Digest of - May 1973 on trees as smog killers and noise barriers> some.type, 1 qj 4 j of ,trees or green ° belt should be put around fence.. i e f HC-87 MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Page 10 The problem of maintenance of trees outside of fence was discussed. Mr. Cowan noted all buildings are single story. Member Weinstein questioned if residents on Maxine Avenue had bean notified. Mr. Cowan assured him this was the last phase of a continuing process. IMr. Mervin W. Hansen, 1741 Frobisher [Jay, San Jose signed in. He said this property was zoned R-2. When is came before Planning Commission and City Council for tentative map with single level. dwellings, there was no opposition by neighbors. Could have developed additional lots by using flag lots. He pointed out :he average lot is 11,000 square feet. Regarding fence, there were several :reasons why they had not zeroed in on a decision. Mr. Hansen said they are still working on fence as to what will be aesthetically good and have some sense of economy within it. He urged committee to compare a subdivision on Meridian Avenue south of Post Office. Member Koenitzer suggested a combination of berm and fence would keep fence at 6' and still give the 7' to 9' coverage needed. Mr. Hansen pointed out berm would take up part of yard. Another problem would be drainage of water into other yards which might make berming unacceptable. After further discussion, it was noted the applicant should look to some type of solution in planting on slope side so that visually it would not give a 9' high impression along road. The applicant pointed out how far existing trees extend over fence and noted trees can be retained if back yard done properly. 1 It was ascertained orchard was relatively new and trees were in good shape. Evergreen trees are on highway property. Mr. Hansen said he did not feel • they would be required to develop highway property. Member Sallan voiced her preference to having 9' wall covered with plantings. Chairman McLaren noted San Jose has staff ordinance for sound barrier. It was asked to have this checked out. Member Weinstein asked to have drive-.aays and entrances pointed out. Mr. Hansen explained the three elevations and placement on site. He noted the two end units are very different. In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Hansen also described materials which would be used; noting they felt the shake shingles gave a more "community" feel. In answer to Chairman McLaren, Mr. Hansen explained the courtyard fences were of redwood and described the different fences on different elevations. I MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H--CONTROL MEETING Member Koenitzer expressed his dislike for the obvious 1-2-3, 1-2-3 pattern of elevations. He said he would also like to see a little -a more variety of color of stucco andvarietyin red brick chimneys. The applicant said this had already been covered. Mr. Hansen noted the landscaping had been,laid out by an architect, but that he was not present, In answer to Chairman McLaren, Mr. Hansen said the request from Council was to retain the existing fruit trees where possible, and they had agreed to do this. Howeverr, these are apricot trees and.it is possible the department of agricul ture might require these be torn down. He pointed out it is to theiA. advantage, to retain as many trees as possible as the units will be retained for rental units. In :a discussion with Member Weinstein regarding purpose of trees, Mr. Hansen said his sound engineer had information that indicated a hedge of trees solidly planted over 20' tall produces practically I no sound deadening. Member Sallan questioned this because of her own experience. Member.Sallan asked what City tree was proposed along the street. Mr. Cowan said the entire street with.the -exception of service sta- tion was in County jurisdiction. Member Sallan ascertained there are a number of fruit trees in front yard which will be retained'. A discussion ensued regarding landscaping. Mr. Hansen noted the landscaping and sprinkler system would be put in. by the developer. 4 Member Weinstein said he wanted to be sure no trees were taken out and replaced with 5 gallon. trees. Mr. Dale Paape, 540 Bird, San Jose, architect, spoke to Member Koenitzer's concern of placement of elevations He ex lained how . P appearances would be changed with the layout he had presented but noted he would not object to mixing .up pattern of elevations. HC-87 Page 11 Mr. Hansen explained fence which was part of elevation and made units very unique. It was noted this was a Public Hearing and comments from audience were invited. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to close Public Hearings Motion carried, 4-0 Member'Sallan suggested holding off on landscaping in rear until soup barrier proposal came in. -87 MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING ` ge 12 C-51,321.1 pproved w/ anditions Member Koenitzer asked if it were possible to make some arrangement whereby the applicant planted on slope and highway department maintained it. Mr. Cowan said the Engineering Department was contacting the State on this point. He also pointed out berm would entail deletion of fence and this was also being studied. Member Sallan stated that she had asked to have the staff check on planting prograr. on street right of way with plants installed by developer and maintained by the State. Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC-51,321.1 with the standard H-Control conditions, Exhibits A, B, B-1, B-2, B-3, C and C-1 and with the following special conditions: 1. That the order of the facades of houses be shuffled so it is not a strict 1-2-3 pattern; approval of proposed pattern up to staff. 2. Landscaping of rear portion of yards be put off and heard at the same time as sound barrier is heard. Seconded by Member Sallan. Member Koenitzer also commended applicant on pleasing development and very good front yard landscaping. AYES: Members Koenitzer, NOES: None ABSTAIN: Member Weinstein ABSENT: Member Dressler Sallan and Chairman McLaren Motion carried, 2-0-1-1 Chairman McLaren notified the applicant this would be heard before the City Council on August 6, 1973. UNFINISHED BUSINESS: 5. Application HC-51,299.1 of S.H.A.R.E., Inc. requesting approval of modification of architecture and landscaping for the Bumble - berry Pie Shop located at: the north side of Stevens Creek Boulevard, west of Saich Way. Staff Report: Mr. Cowan said this application involved a modification to the fence plan and a tile treatment on the facade of the building. The fencing would be changed from masonry to wood and the color of the tile would be a purple. Mr. Larry Madsen, 330 Second Street, Los Altos, gave the reasons for the requested changes. The fence on the rest of the project is 7' redwood and this would give continuity to project. He then showed samples of tile to be used under window which were two shades of mauve. In answer to Member Sallan, Mr. Madsen said the area to be covered by tile would be 3' under the windows with landscaping in front. • ME MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H--CONTKOL:MEETING HC-87 Page 13 ra Mr. Cowan then showed slides of site and proposed changes. The applicant said he did not know if color was mentioned at first " hearing, but it was the color on all of the, Bumbleberry Pie Parlors.',, Member Weinstein questioned. 1--he compatibility with. concept of other � buildings which were of white stucco with red tile. Mr. Madsen: ii said the columns of dark wood diminishes the tile color and the tiles were really of a.subtle color. Member Sallan said she had had an oral communicationexpressing the hope that the Cupertino Bumbleberry Pie Parlor would not be of the purple tile. Chairman McLaren said she felt the use of purple as the tile color was misleading. In answer to Member Weinstein`s question, Mr. Madsen said this particular material was no"t that gaudy and would be encased in wood,' would work as well as brick in this particular instance. The two a the colors blend at a distances Mr. Madsen asked if there were any objections to change of fence. k' Member Sallan said she would like to comment on fence by pointing out thatconsistentlythe committee received architectural render- ings of fences with landscaping on one side of fence; should see only fence*and whatever is planted behind it or coming over the fence. She would like to see some provision for landscaping on out— side of fence. Fence could be moved 2 or .3 feet inside property line and landscaping placed on outside. After further discussion., Chairman McLaren announced this was a Public Hearin and requested comments from the `audience g re q . There ' were none. Member Sallan moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4--0 Mr. Madsen indicated he would like to have a motion one way or another since time was of the essence. A discussion followed whether to make it one motion or two separate motions. Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC--51,299.1. on HC-51,299:1 portion requesting change of fence from slumpstone to redwood. Fencing chang Seconded by Member Sallan. approved 1 Ir ; IIC-8 7 Page 14 HC-51,299.1 Tile change denied izC-51,211.1 MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 II -CONTROL rEETING AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend denial of portion of application HC-51,299.1 concerning change of color of tile on building. Seconded by Member Sallan. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan and Weinstein NOES: Chairman McLaren ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 3-1 The applicant was informed this would be heard by City Council on August 6, 1973. 6. Application HC-51,211.1 of Sequoia Mortgage Company requesting approval to modify the architectural plan with respect to the carports for the Casa De PLiza condominium conversion project located adjacent to and westerly of Mary Avenue directly opposite the intersection of Lubec Street and Mary Avenue. Staff Report: The staff felt the decLsion to delete carport would be made by Planning Commission, but Planning Commission felt it was more a question of design rather than land use and should be resolved by ASAC. Mr. Cowan explained the applicant wished to delete four carports at southwest portion of project and place trellis/fence structure around car compound on the north, east and south boundary. Member Koenitzer asked to see drawing that would show front elevation ;rather than the side. It was noted part of previous approval was to build (fence in front of patios which was of the same treatment. Slides were shown of the compound and impact of freeway and project. Chairman McLaren expressed her opinioi an enclosed parking area would be desirable. She commented on the fron-- looking quite a bit better. Mr. Allen DeGrange, 15780 Shannon Way, Los Gatos, showed a sketched elevation of fence. Wisteria would be hanging -iown from trellis. IMr. Ken Thomas, Sequoia Mortgage Company, discussed the use of ivy and substi- jtution of sod. He pointed out they had increased tree planting by 25%. - r MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H-CQNTROL MEETING: i, 4 Mr. DeGrange noted this areawould be good for people to put campers and other high vehicles which could not be put under carports. The fence would shield vehicles from sight;. Member Weinstein said he felt it would be appropriate to say' something about converted projects to the Planning Commission. Chairman McLaren noted there had been many discussions regarding these. Mr. Cowan said the Council had directed staff to look into { this. i It was noted this was a Public Hearing and open: for comments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer.moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to close Public 6 Hearings. HC-87 Page 15 Motion carried, 4-0 Member Koenitzer noted that several times in the last several months this project had come in for little changes to be approved. n Chairman McLaren pointed out each improvement made was helpful to .the ,project. r After. further discussion, Member Weinstein moved to approve 1 HC-51 ,211..1, application HC--51,211.1 by Sequoia Mortgage Company, subject to split vote standard�H-Control conditions and according to Exhibits A-1, B-3 and B-6 as presented with the added note that these conversion projects do make thins difficult but do not give much `choice on P J g g what.committee can do; are relying on good faith of architect and owner. Seconded by Member Sallan. j AOL AYES: Member Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: Members Koenitzer and Sallarl ABSENT: Member Dressler Because of the split vote, there was further discussion. The applicant explained they were trying to make the project look more aesthetically pleasing. HC-87 MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H-CO'NTROL MEETING Page 16 ' Mr. Cowan then read a point of order whereby an application is automatically denied when a split vote is reached. The applicant was told he could appeal to City Council. Mr. Cowan reminded the applicant to notify staff of this intent to appear prior to the meeting. NE[d BUSINESS: :tone ADJOURNMENT: At 11:03 p.m. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to J adjourn to the next regular meeting on August 8, 1973. Motion carried, 4-0 APPROVED: /s/ Juanita McLaren Chairman ATTEST: /s/ Wm. E. Ryder City Clerk L�