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January 17th, 1973n CITY OF CUPERTINO .10300 Torre Avenue,, Cupertino Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE ON JANUARY 17, 1973 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL,; CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was called to order at 7:35 P.1A. by Chairman Sargent w7'th'theSalute to the Flagg ROLL CALL Members present: McLaren. Sallan and Chairman Sargent, Koenitzer (S a 00`0 Members absent: Dressler Staff presents Associate Planner Robert Cogan Recording Secretary Ruth Cox MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING: Approval at Architectural and Site' Approval Minutes of January 3y 1973. M-.mber gallan moored, seconded. by Member McLaren, to approzre minutes as presented o Motion carried, 3-0 POSTPONEMENTS': Application HC-51,211a1 of Sequoia Mortgage Company was taken off Agenda because` of new Council conditions which would change land- scaping. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS. Done ORAL COMMUNICATIONS None HC-73 Page A iMinutes of January 3, 197' approved as presented. EC-51,211,1 postponed (Sequoia Mort- gage Company) HC-73 Page 4 5 trees - clumps of trees Landscaping Parking area Integrate w/ property to west Planter bed safety hazard Space only limitation ARCHITECTURE No newspaper racks or vend-' in-0 machines Slumpstone vs. stucco MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17, 1973 11-CONTROL MEETING Member Koenitzer suggested 5 trees rather than proposed 3. It was also suggested varying height and location of plants; perhaps a clump of trees. Chairman Sargent indicated that perhaps raised planter boxes might not be adequate. He suggested a tree with plants of various heights in a broader box. Mr. Eakin said he had a good understanding of what was wanted and did not feel there would be a problem to submit a landscaping plan that was satisfactory. Member Sallan said she had the same concern that parking area was too large an expanse of cement. She suggested that on north of building the planter -be increased from 3' to 5', and the installation of same planter at other end where electrolier is to be placed. She also suggested running planter bed between two end planters of about 3', decreasing stalls from 20' to 18'. Member Sallan expressed her concern that the building and parking area should integrate with property to the west. It was noted that planter bed between end planters might be a safety hazard in that people would be forced to walk in traffic lanes. Mr. Eakin noted he was agreeable to any increase in landscaping in parking area. Space would be the only limitation. Member Koenitzer observed that entrance to building isn't on parking lot side and since there will be no parking on Saratoga - Sunnyvale Road, people will be walking around building to the entrance. He also expressed his dissatisfaction of roof lanterns, feeling the orange lanterns cheapen building. Healso felt there should be no newspaper racks or vending machines in front of building. Member McLaren disagreed with the Staff recommendation that a cement plaster exterior material was necessary to make Big Boy's compatible to Bang, of America proposal. She felt the trellis structure on rear of building would be attractive and could be used to connect with walkway to other buildings. She also noted that the roof lanterns are a part of Big Boy's identification design. Mr. Eakin explained the lanterns are of a Spanish type to match interior chandeliers. Member McLaren inquired committee's feeling on slumpstone vs. stucco. Member Koenitzer said tie liked the different textured walls and did not feel uniformity was wanted. Member Sallan said she was agreeable to proposed material. She felt the rear elevation was unattractive; did not like flat roof and noted this e:.posure would be visual to entire interior of property. 0 C-] 1i MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17, 1973 Hm-CONTROL MEETING Mr, Eakin answered these comments by explaining that on the rear of the building there would be decorative lanterns with sl_umpstone. reversed Mocks behind the lanterns. This plus the planter areas between lanterns would break up flat appearance. Member Sallan inquired as to pedestrian access to interior of property to integrate property. Mr. Eakin said the only pedes- trian access was at rear of sidewalk. Chairman Sargent ascertained the air conditioning units would be behind flat portion of roof and would not be visible above the roof. In answer to Chairman Sargent, Mr. Eakin described ceramic the in front was composed of 2" square tiles of olive green color. A discussion was held about having lanterns on pillars instead of roof. The committee then commented on sign as presented. Member Koenitzer objected to busyness of text and suggested a. monument type sign. approximately 4-59 high; He also suggested moving sign to other side of driveway as this would allow traffic pulling out , on Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road . to have a . clear view to the north. Member.Salla:n agreed with these comments.. The statue in conjunction.w,ith sign too busy;It was suggested integrating statue with sign, Mr. Eakin said it could be placed inside raised planter against building and would be 3s6" instead` of usual. 7 ` It was noted that guidelines for signing in this area are being g g g g prepared and.it would be better to continue the sign portion of application until these are ready. HC-73 . Page 5 Pedestrian access Ai.r conditioning units Ceramic the Lanterns on pillars SIGNING Monument -type sign and moue to other side Statue considered Signing guide- line HC-73 Page 6 Public Hearing closed HC-51,296.1 Bob's Big Boy approved w/ conditions Amendment MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17, 1973 I1-CONTROL MEETING be possible in the future to connect pedestrian walkway with Big Boy's as property developes on parcel B. A walkway might be feasible on the 10' easement between building and property line. Member McLaren made a motion, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public Hearing. Motion carried, 4-0 After ascertaining.that undergrounding had been established, Member McLaren moved to recommend approval of application HC-51,296.1 to City Council subject to H-Control standard conditions, Staff report of December 15, 1972, exhibits Revised Site Plan, B, B-1, E, E-1, E-2 and F 1st Revision, and subject to the following conditions. (1) Landscaping, grading and signing to be reviewed at a later date. (2) 40' driveway installed at entrance on Highway 9 instead of 30'. (3) Exposed aggregate on sidewalks in this development and in future developments. (4) Additional planter to be installed under the electrolier facing on south side of Alves Di.-.ive to the west of existing planter box. Existing planter bc:� to be increased from 3' to 5' if Staff recommends it. Mir.imam to be 31. (5) Bicycle racks to be installed where Staff recommends. (6) On the rear of building, a,-ood trellis beam should be designed similar to Sambc's. Wood trellis to be used throughout individual de`.alopments as integrating link between buildings to tie in lot B from Big Boy's where feasible. This reconunendation made with the understanding that the Lucky Stores will remove existing Gemco sil,:i facing Highway 9 and Alves Drive before any building permit wi11 be issued for Bob's Big Boy. Seconded be Member Koenitzer. • Member Sallan added an amendment that west elevation planter area be increased by one or that the length of the planter running against building be increased by several feet total. Member Koenitzer seconded the amendment. VOTE ON AMENDMENT: AYES: Members Koenitzer, INcLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Amendment passed, 4-0 VOTE ON MOTION: AYES: Members Koenitzer, 2•_cLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion passed, 4-0 MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17, 1973 11-CONTROL MEETING Chairman Sargent notified the applicant that the site and architec- ture portion of his application had been approved and would be.heard before the City Council on February 5, 1973. Landscaping, signing. and grading to be continued until a later application. 2, Application HC--51,050,1 of Hank of America represented by John Brooks Boyd Associates requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading and undergrounding of utilities. for addition and remodeling of existing building located at' the sau.th side of Stevens Creek Boulevard` approximately 300 ft. west of Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road, The Associate Planner noted the applicationis for approval of site, architecture and undergrounding of utilities, He reported under - grounding had been taken care of. Mr. Cowan said the Bank's propo- sal included an overall face lift as well as an addition to the existiing.building. The drive -up window might create parking problem.on .site. 43 parking stalls are required The plan calls for 31 stalls, but shows an additional 19 spaces in drives -up lane The City attorney had checked the ordinance and found this could be allowed. 25 to 307 of business vill be transacted via the drive -up window according to the applicant. In order to make the site function the ;westerly entrance, on Stevens Greek existing drive -way will be closed. off. The building on corner will be removed and an easement constructed. At least half of the proposed 50` easement would have to be built. This would be a :one tray Lane >only. It was also recoimrended to install the divider strip_ at, this time. Member Koenitzer questioned if the City Engineer felt traffic flow as proposed would be satisfactory, Mr. Cowan replied in the aff-irma- _ tiveo Member Sallan asked if stacking for drive -up window could present a problem for people leaving bank area. Member Koenitzer noted drive way patterning shows two lanes. He also expressed concern about amount of parking and traffic flow. He noted plans called for 25 customer parking spaces and 6 spaces for personnel.. He felt the bank would probably need more spaces for its personnel; Chairman Sargent pointed out that some landscaping would have to be sacrificed to get more parking spaces, Member Koenitzer suggested perhaps Home Savings and Bank of America could share parking Mr. John Boyd, 454 Forest Avenue, Palo Alto, and Mr. Anthony Anitreil,� 260 Fifth St., San Francisco, then showed slides of existing bank and exterior elevation of proposed building after remodeling Member Sallan=noted 5 plants Ihad been left out on west wall and was told this was done to allow for better traffic flow and more .parking:. HC-73 Page 7 HC--51:s 05001 Bank of America Staff report Parking stalls Easement and median. strip Traffic flow satisfactory Parking space Slides shown IIC-73 Page 8 Mechanical equipment on roof SITE Pedestrian traffic under arcade 'Median should be developed Upgrading appreciated ARCHITECTURE East end roof should be the Existing sign MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Mr. Boyd pointed out that all mechanical equipment would be hidden on roof. Member McLaren asked the applicant if 12' lane and median as shown on plan would be installed.. Mr. Boyd said there would be 8' of plant- ing as suggested by Staff, and 25' of asphalt pavement. Member Koenitzer reiterated he did not feel there was enough parking in general for customers. He suggested both one way signs at necessary points and painted stripes indicating traffic flow to drive -up windows. Chairman Sargent suggested directional arrows could be also be painted on pavement. Mr. Anitreil indicated there was an agreement for addi- tional parking in shopping center. Member Sallan asked for dimension of parking stalls on west side and Mr. Boyd said they were 3' to aisle. She suggested putting 5 planters back in. She noted a 10' overhang out from building and suggested same treatment in existing concrete :Malls as on west side. :1r. Boyd said that when developing small areas, angles were difficult to maintain and became trash collectors. 1.ia said the sidewalk would be the wheel stop and pedestrian traffic would be back under arcade. Member Sallan said median strip should be put in now. Chairman Sargent spoke in regard to flow of traffic and his hope that parking would be adequate. He said the applicant's upgrading of this property was appreciated. The sign was not being discussed but did remind the applicant the sign Ead been allowed on temporary basis and was in stark contrast to wl.at was approved for Heme Savings. Member Sallan felt the buildinE-,,was of unusual design and each elevation attractive. Member Koenitzer felt the remoCeling to be a very reasonable approach. He was not in favor of wood on east end roof_; thought it should be tile. Chairman Sargent pointed out to students in audience that model did not do the drawings justice as it looked out of proportion and stark. He felt the proposed remcdelin+; to be a vast improvement. He had no objection to signs on building:;, but reiterated the one in front should be something artistic aiid creative in keeping with the building. In answer to a query from the Applicant, he said both height and style of existing sign were in quest.�on. It was pointed out the logo on rear of building was very attractive. • MINUTES Or THE JAIvRJARY 17, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING I Member Sallan move:, seconded by Member McLar_en, to close Public Hear- ings when there were no continents from the audience. Motion carried, 4--0 Chairman Sargent then'gave a brief summary. He said the applicant had been in several times discussing site problems relative to traffic flow and surrounding.streets and: this was the best alternative presented.. Parking at adjacent lots may.help parking situation.. In regard, to site, the committee should make sure there are bicycle racks. Also that it will be possible for pedestrian traffic to get from building to street safely. Architecture - changing of east roof from wood feature to tile. Wood fascia to be stained -dark to tie in with the rest of the development and overall coloring to- be done in natural colors Member McLaren noted that it would be difficult to put in half of the median strip. Mr. Cowan reported the Director of Public 'Works did want to see median installed; at least a curb. After a brief discussion, Member Sallan moved to recommend approval of application HC®51,,050.1 with the `attached Enclosures A -Revised and B, standard Hp -control conditions and following additional conditions: (1) Ligiting,. landscaping and, sgnin.g to be reviewed at future date. (2) Directional indicators on property should include combination of ground markings with arrows: and lines, and ,-free standing' signing if necessary. (3) Issue of median divider strip on north and east elevations be clarified by City Staff within the next week or two and be installed,if possible. (4) Provision be made on site for bicycle racks,` (5) Provision be made for pedestrian `walkways ,to integrate this property with adjacent property. Walkways to he of exposed aggregate and they be continued all the way across (6) That the wood fascia along front portion of building in front of drain, spouts be stained to match existing wood, (7) That the planter on the west portion of property,be reinstated as per original Exhibit A. Member McLaren seconded the motion. Member.Koenitzer moved to amend motion to include additional condition,a (S) That the roof on the east end be tile instead of wood. Member Sallan seconded the amendment VOTE ON AMENDMENT: HC--73 Page 9 Public Hearings closed Summary Site Curb nec-- es:sary HC-51,050.1 approved w/ conditions Amendment fails HC-73 Page 10 Recess hC-51,299.1 S.H.A.R.E. Inc. Staff report Parking short Planned Develop- ment 50' set -back MINUTES OF TUE JANUARY 17, 1(;73 11-CONTROL MERTING VOTE ON MOTION: AYES: Members Koenitzer, McLaren, Sall.an and Chairman Sargent NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 Chairman Sargent notified applicant the application had been approved regarding site and architecture and would be before City Council on February 5, 1973. A ten minute recess was held, with meeting reconvening at 10:15 P.M. 3. Application I1C--5.1,211,1 - Sequoia Mortgage Company continued 4. Application HC-51,299.1 of S.H.A.R.E. Inc. requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading, lighting and underground.ing of utilities for a professional office complex located on 6.9 acres bei:ween Stevens Creek Boulevard and Alves Drive easterly of Key Chevrolet. Mr. Cowan noted thi^ application .is for a professional office and commercial complex in a planned development area. Resolution No. 1135 outlined special condition, and concerns of Planning Commission. An additional concern was tha amount of landscaping between office complex and residential area. The Council would like to see some type of planting area in the _-urn-around area. Key Chevrolet to the west had concern about proxin•:ity of buildings and planting. Additional landscaping on Stevens Creek and against building was suggested. 2' of landscaping could be picked up from parking stalls. He noted Council was concerned about landscaping along Alves but present configuration was approved. A fence or some type of screening was recommended to separate applicant's property from the residence and church property. In answer to Chairman Sargent's observation that about 18 spaces were short on parking, Mr. Cowan said this was considered adequate. Chairman Sargent noted this t;as Planned Development area and site, as far as buildings and parking were concerned, had been established for use permit. Member McLarc n noted it had been established that on StevensCreek quadrant the minimum set -back was 50' for each building and Building A fronting on Stevens Creek Boulevard was only 30' from curb. Mr. Cowan .noted if building was moved back, parking spaces would have to he moved to the front. MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17, 1973 H-.CONTROL MEETING The applicant, Mr; harry Madsen, 578 Arrowood Ct,, Los Altos, signed in. Mr. Paul Weiss, 20955 Stevens Creek Boulevard, Cupertino, of Key Chevrolet asked to be Beard, lie said the purpose of commercial developments was to provide employment and sales income. He felt there were ample professional offices in area. Key Chevrolet needs as much visual impact as possible..and Building A will obstruct view into their building and display.' He said he did not know about use permit until N1on�.;ay, night' and that the '.usual thing done was to notify neighbors. He felt the set -back should be 50' as is the pattern on Stevens Creek Boulevard. He would suggest moving build- ings 50' from curb, more plants by used car lot, low profile land- scaping and mounds in front of Building A. Suggested make Building A 20' shorter. Mr. Madsen answered Mr� Weiss by saying he didn't feel under obliga- tion to have this site enhance Key Chevrolet® He said he had dis-- cussed total site planning with all.committees and went through all necessary procedures `anad all had approved. Chairman Sargent noted that with the approval that was grantedby the Planning Commission and the City Council, this board ryas not in a position at this time to reduce ,square footage of buildings or to change location of buildings, Member McLaren said she would like the minutes to reflect concern of ASAC. In answer to Member Koeni.tzer, Mr. Madsen explained the various elevations and indicated interior details, He'anse,rered Member Sallanss question by describing building material as wood fascia, heavily textured cement plaster with anodized aluminum mountings. The buildings are approximately 17` in height. Mr. Madsen answered Chairman Sargent's query regarding the air condi-- tioning units by stating they are hidden on the roof with no part being visible from the street. In a discussion with Member McLaren, Mr. Madsen said every possible angle for changing building locations had been:considereId and this was the best. Chairman Sargent said he found nothing objectionable` about proposed. buildings and found them very attractive. It was ascertained that underground3_ng of utilities and drainage had been approved, HC-73 Page 11 Key Chev- rolet comments Square -foot- age and location Minutes to reflect concern ARCHITECTURE Building materials .Air condi- tioning units, f Site location discussed Underground- ing and drainage HC-73 Page 12 LANDSCAPING Concurs with Staff Recommen- dations Interior circle land- scaping Fences described Bumbleberry Pie Parlor Landscaping Landscaping previously approved Fences dis- cussed Slides shown MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17, 1973 li--CONTROL MEEfA. TNG Member McLaren said she would concur with Staff recommendations as to the landscaping adjacent to the home on Alves Drive. Also the recommenda- tion from the Staff that there should be additional Landscaping on westerly property line with fence or fence .like planting to separate residential area. She noted this would also help Key Chevrolet in regard to parking of vehicles and repair shop adjacent to that area. Mr. Madsen answered Member McLar.en's question that the landscaping of 10' circle on the interior would be tam junipers. He said nothing too tall was desirable because of visual impact and the junipers would relate to other landscpaing. Mr. Madsen said the fence on east and west side would be a 6' redwood or cedar wood fence running fro::: property line to property, taking into consideration the set -back requirements. Something nice would be necessary because the glass .areas of offices would be facing the fence. Member Sallan was concerned witi frontage along Stevens Creek .Boulevard. And would lake to see some high,=r plantings Shen juniper in the circle. She also expressed her preferen,:_a to see landscaping adjacent to Bumbleberry Pie Parlor increase' }`rom S' to 12'. Chairman Sargent said he did nog .feel adding 2'of landscaping which would be hidden by thn front end of cars was practical.. After a brief discussion regard k.ng ti:e videni,-S of the landscaped area, Chairman Sargent ruled this had been app^oved by this committee and by City Council and so should not be ch:in`;ed. Member Koenitzer said in r--gard to fence along the boundary, from the inside would be attractive-i.t..ti landscaping but from the outside • would be a row of fencing. He -:utg ested possibly Key Chevrolet would put in a few plants. He noted _'.r.ving on Saich Avenue there would be blank area of fencing, Member ':cf,aren noted Key Chevrolet had planted trees around their site. Chairman Sargent asked if anyon_� Were present to speak from the church property located immedia`.ely to the south of the single family residence on Alves Drive. 'there was no one. Nr. Cowan showed slides of area under dis�._ussion, noting the biggest expanse would be from Burger Chef to f i. . st: building. Chairman Sargent asked Mr. Madsen to stipulate where fence would begin in relation to building A. Mr. Madsen said it would start 30' from the property line. Th:- east side fence would begin at rear of Bumbleberry Pie property line and run to 10' from curb of Alves Drive. MINUTES OF THE JANCIARY 17, 1973 H.--CONTROL MEETING Member McLaren suggested heavier landscaping,adjacent to residential area and a design -type concrete around iinterior circle with lighting, i After discussing condition 18 which stated; applicant shall provide for a meandering sidewalk along Alves Drive, and noting that the natural contours of. property Line give a meandering effect, it was decided not to require that meandering sidewalks be installed, Member Sall.an noted minimum size of plantin.gs.were not listed but should be on final landscaping drawings. She suggested 15-gallon trees at-: least ag_,inst the buildings andplants 'along frog tage' of . Stevens' Creek, including. divider She, noted junipers are fine but at the westerly portion of •bul iiig extending into parking, something else should be used, Mr. Madsen answered Member Sallan that.the mound would be as high as possible without creating a run-off problem, probably about 3 4 a She suggested where groundcovering is now shown, some type of .planting should be added to the mound. Since the landscaping plans were not complete, Chairman Sargent told Mr. Madsen that in order to approve the :Landscaping these details were necessary and asked if he would like to continue this portion. Mr. Madsen was amenable to this suggestion.o Chairman Sargent said, he hoped there could be an abbreviated discussion when it came back, Chairman Sargent then asked for comments from audience. There were, none Member'Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member McLaren, to close Public Hearings Chairman Sargent summarized by saying that Planned Development applica-- tions always brought problems, and he hacl allowed Mr. Weiss to."speak hoping he would have an alternate plan for moving buildings. However, that aspect of use permit could not be changed so ASAC should address themselves to the architecture, undergrounding of utilities, grading, and continue landscaping. Member McLaren suggested that lighting plans be included with the landscaping and Chairman Sargent requested the applicant to bring` n a sample of lighting regarding height and where they would be .placed. Member—McLaren requested applicant to bring in design of fence he was planning to use and show where it would begin and end. HC- 73 Page 13 Lighting around circle Meandering sidewalk not re- quired 15--gallon trees against buildings Planting on � mound Landscaping information inadequate Public Hearing closed Summary Lighting to be included ;with land- scaping Fence design re- quested iC-73 MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17, 1973 H-0113TROL MEETING ?age 14 a 1C-•519299,1 !' Member Koenitzer moved to recou.mend a )I.)z-,)val of IIC-51,299.1 to the approved w/ ( City Council with the standard H-Co-,tr.ol conditions, Exhibits A lst .ordit3ons !� Revisions, B. C and l) 1�-At Revision, ,+:ith the additional conditions that (1) landscaping and lighting be co'itinueds (2) bicycle racks will be provided, �! (3) sidewalk oa Alve3 Drive be coat.iauou:3 with the curb and not i � a meandering oidewa.11:. An's: Members Koenitze2, ticLure:r, Sallan and Chairman Sargent t ir`OE : None ABSENT: Member Dressler :•Iotion prized, 4-0 UNFINISHED BUSINESS: 5. Application tiG.�.a7.,`' 3,2 ,, Pi.tz-Cr.:.r�e reque ti tS to modify they approved site plan for tale ioL't;.'"li-po int To-vahouoe Develop- raent to take prov:Ls-ioij "car ;:enni,s c U:sxt:, whiz the central it aff Report ", Mr. Cowan noted thr star: t ii riicdify th> approv,,-1 site plan hby iL' l.lCii1 C t f vil Pra,;3 c+, :i w-"'tL'. 'i:. .ZTI:t, cb41.': (:'� TC7o thin-s to be �c1;1",LdE'red are vh 0' :•7:Ili ,-,ve +rn pla.- area �iiCa th=� visual. :'1-vC y:tin, L-,nilto 3 zvto blyarf3, t1le play 3+(ai woitl'A be r!ore [1F_.,'.CI+ i y t i J;'c. tul- aduluct"TI:+.G ct') lr!;o T"'Ould �-7,crv£-' Purpose. a krt�:{a.:tity of court.3 to °31.lrruuadill�� 'F:+ ct .�ia ul l <, ).; o be nof;t'.Ci. u, _fe3 l(;ta for i air:. TJ'arrcev, G.11 .'OCrt, of �13:`1..; .ITtE� 's Ld t:i;e"1r s�i.'-Va to put in two �ci t L f� ri:: til�=.h .-.'-CS-C S E WiXn- t:Clltt i Ar'Lnx ai001 so tle Y' lt:'? tao',al.ci "U:'. f 3K':l fo ak7i.'tl j)Q01 "Ind oollrt: , :a Tennis courts r,:ould 1.20' z 110, irP-a. C )urV o Ii f,3 illy s, , Gilbert a aid :1 c,r)a...u_I t- -is ria had %e,1 ned plan recrea- �'t�ccu :Y icled L; i.cstl: 1 pro ram iox the: cicvalopracat-41C,a. the > o at is Win e oile of their stcont; t.'.CrJiiirt lL : iCsIlS. 4 rl.aGttc; winld- 'n;:eakd nnas c'ouLis selling, point It was noted that canvas, I=i.`.: c0lai;'.t)t. ._y usea foC wired —breaker but that all open, l'o-ah yply t ; `. ;tlho : �'_ T i 9't i °?L� T1 the .,tx. c.v i,r 4., l.e11c: l:izz:,,b li. d� -:ln t;e�lca would be u;a�2e1, cte -�rl a—nd the oz)on -ne;3h fe"ce of green plastic would i eve a n. o-p-,t: e' Chairman Sar enr eo:rnr-,aL: ct Cbrt se.": rytimelS it w�ia neces 3ary to have certain Eeatures for t:) se-11 ., t4oti.ng this was a very internal sit:uati oil' III:' ,L-,,1d Di tz._ c' ote. felt LlvF t i.Tt order: to sell these tow-nhouse.) the gra G:.a :3i oul.d 1 ,! slacri.fi.ced foa the tennis court:. im MINUTES UTES OF THE J A1.Y Ti1C3R dT 17, 1973 1. 1'""CO'AiTS_ OL 11",Er?d..! G h e discussion followed about various other: places she courts could be put in order to save the open space. Member Kcd�,.-nitze noted that removing this plot: wola d leave no-pJ.ace for children to play tag football., baseball, etc, Meiiber' !AcLaren uc,ested removing some uxa.-tts north of swimming pool and putting the courts Chler i Member MaLaren noted that Ditz-Cr_anne as alr(,'ady 'advertising the term -a 8 courts as One of their Selling poi zt-s o Mr,, !�d Cates gaid they had not been iawars they isould have, to coiiio in and get approval, to m.ai � this change Member 4+aa lan fell: Meiaiibra Mc.Laren' s 2ugga s t oga of putting courts. it) the area to.,the., north of the swimti ilig, pool i olace of the four units shoo ,m was a good one. Mr© Gilbert noted these courts will cost over $15 � 000 � 00 to install. Member MciWaren, reported that a 'coXu`c-1.1man v7a3s concerned t.hat it had not tuned out as he had thou. ght it would it to ks to o tight and too close together, Quite a few units for that amount of, land,, She peraonall.y felt perhaps the applicant should-n t try to make any chainge-so Mr, Gilbert said that density was tact the subject applicant asking to utilize open space in same recreational zoning just another usei matter cif � �c C %f c,, ref erat'�,t��' al eared, instead o general. lie said no project is Very effective iintil It, is fini&, h d and l nd.9caping is put: in,, aC-73 Page 15 Other sitws Courts lr. ,_,ad.y advertised i Chairiymn ,Sargent told the applicant there .9e*eraed to, be concern among 1,he committees that this -particular p l waS k's ° cceDtable G He " s 's Mr. Gilbert if he. would 21ke the Option c)f continuing the disc u0sion. arld coming up wrath anothe"r location or if he 1 lce, iV put to a vote, Kahl ch would then be heard before City Council, Mr. Gilbert said he like t-o know what the objections were, Chairmau Sargent ansu ered that the courts. are luxury o� zeJ asphalt in.st ad P Brass. He suggested applicant coiaa its'wit~h an alternative or j, added information to convince the cotnin'? tt ee, tr t Mr. Cates, after further discussion, said they could get more info 1tic-10 but the courts had to be in that location, n Chairman Sargent informed the applicant the committee was not: disputing the need for tannis courts, Their concern as what wouldbe sacrificed for the courts. Comments or questions from the audiencte were then requeetedd. 'there were none Mea ber Koenitzer mowed, seconded by Member Sad lan,, that Public Hear nse be closed Luc<p_lacv units ratter than open space Courts costly Building too dense Spbscific recreation vs gi4- erah, Options 6 Co f;d.,nUe off° brizag to vote Crass replaced with asphalt Courts aIn thts site t Public Hearings closed IIIC-73 Page 16 IIC-51. , 27 3. continued HC-511227.2 'Measurex Corp. Staff Report I En°,., -;- ,-,a acy fq D I- i.vi2 a.S:Oulld 3/4 of area P;ArI'-Uk-Q r3ou'('-'hZ MINUTES OF THE JKNUAIRY 17, 1973 H-(-�)NTROL MEETING Member Koenitzer moved to continue application IIC-51,273.2 until the next regular meeting, of H-Control. lle,-:ber .'TcLaren seconded the motion. Alf AYES: Members Koetiltzer., McLarc,i Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOES: None ABSENT: 'M.--niber Dressler Yotior. passed, 4-0 6. Application IRG-519227.2 oi_ Mcasurex Corporation requesting approval of site ",Aid Li Lid ing plan modifications in 41 coilliectiort the -111gIlt induo.trial developr,,.-ent on Imperial Aveaue. 'X. cow -an G.aid t1le applicatioa wa,, -eqtieotilil- to raodify k�,ita- and chit a c approval to con.3truct a street connetcting the existing piarlking aiitl drivo.ay adjjaciuit to '.'TcClLllaTi I'load 0 1 to Imperial Avenue . Th,2 Laodst ;tp J.tT for 1.'�;Clellan Road io s1milar to the '1101'z 0'n- ioad' Member '11.,IcLaren que:7ti.00v;,A- a -A off .1-1c.-Glellan and :Ir. cow,an Said therC Ws all Mlerlb-r po-Lz'J"f--J tira long arou}!d 3/4 Of arza xad, d2,--d--k2aJ* Chairman Sirceitt oaLdl j it. look like a parki.u- lot. -A Z" Wt-) Lo and no`; all that will. Ile paizatoil out tl,�tn- be 1cperi-al Av-'�'aue WOUIC! be paile-.Zd -..ar.�; not . ' I - ;,'cr:Lber Szili(.'aa nntccl 1.),eer. r-,Oopted to Mac cars but cffcctive thia would ou,)t do it. IL IIW'�t loo (I s.L,,neci -3o that traffic not look at cars;. r P�arking in Chi.irman polncud ow: thc-se Attrac�jve build-Ing; and park- f roll.t not ing io not allow.id li.,, f-roat ol otll,,, 1,,11IiJ,-'I-.-,-,!) i n I.if-v lopment" Cowan f o r coi,i.m.1t 0 i-)J.- oil CoLtcept 0 f b x:ingirrig, parking and drivI-way arcuad, Ilaipber V-:cf,art�o t.,ilild she'.would lik(I Lo Continkie this appliczlrion until. ivv c{,,i5 rt lue rota iii detail; hour was too late and was too tir,2-1. A . utot; ticreened After a brief durinwhich itt. 1�1. S. Burtdn, 10475 -!uue, Cu-per�iao, ,,."id -viould put ill plants of Imperial Avf and ',-'Zo -a-, he ar,)cecd such d(IT131t" �,:L LhUL a" 1. auto i, -31d 1)0- screenod to having a-pplicl-tLoa -ent aoked for co-mmeats oi: questi iv from udi nc There Chairman Oar,., 0 4 UM a a 0, were none, 11 is MINUTES OF. THE JANUAIRI.Y 1.75 1973 1.1-COI.,TROT, ' i ;IaTIN G J Me-mber Kocnitzer moved,, seconded by 'Mcmber MCLe.n, to alone. Public a 1!C-5J-,227,,2 until the Merf,,ber Xoenitzer i,.ioved to corltinJCt no.xt regular inieet:h-�-g. lleuiber 1.38-11'a.11. fjec-ond-fi-tcl t1j,-ie mot iorle 14e,i-,iber Mr -Laren sug p be 'i thj_o� �,,pipj,jclatjcin I)c -cad at the E7 nrling, of the nexL agenda� aiad Chairman Sargeat requeeated �,Ir, Cow.M." to SPe C-1 A that both this application and the S.HA,,RE,, application wc-,�re 'Dut at the NEW BUSINESS After a brief djGCUeSj0jj Orl, VOSSible G7ays to -obortrW, Tria(;,ting lenr-th madjunan2�3114Membar Koerd?-tzerd font1� seconded tha m4otion,, ,APPROVED: Isl L. Don Sargent Chairman Pa�,e 17 Public lllearinSa closed 11C-5if'1227�2 coatinuad ADJOIM-M-211 T