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CITY HALL, . CL 'ER '_1NO, CALIFOT—,=
SALUTE TO THE I'LAG
The, meetinb was called to order at , ,.;3 .P-HI by Chairman Sargent
with the S.`-1lutlF. `.. to the FF r'- n.^
;_- ^ _ Dressler, oem tze - 1, cLaren Sallan and
���mb�rs present: _, p
Chairman, Sargent
P'sembers absent: Intone
Staff present: Associate :Tanner Robert 'Cowan
j Recording Secretary °!%uth Cox
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IiiUTES OF _.H rs, -:IOUs T, I TG
Approval'of Arch-1�t:ecturai and Site Approval inutes
i of _ ecember 20A 1972.
' On page 1 =n the first addition to the-*nut�_s o _ c ,�b�r 6,
1iomb4r'_ Sa11an �.7ished to change Planning Com —1 s s 4 onto-read
City Staff.
On page 6, .condition.39 ',Iember Sallan wished.to say there' should
be a minimum tree size for the whole project of 5-gallon size,
and that along Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road the trees should :be 15
a11on size as well as on the north side of 'Ralph's 1Nsarket s
On ^8n u.g cOnd tlOn, Oy '_.'.ember S-ill-a wis' -0 =I _; t i.._<3.F, .,. l:'_ty
Staff should check this .;planter and see that it.is in accordance
with the rest of the centar's planter:strip, taking into considera-
tion that the planter will be'below concrete level and plants 1Si_nut:=s.ot
should be high enough to perform intended ,function. December 20 �
'i 1972 approve.
Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member :Sallan9 to approve the as cha.nLed.
minutes as changed
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",TRITTEN COM :.-�S
'Staff member Cowan received a communication fror,i Cummings and Company
:;regarding the Barclay !_:ank Center sign. It was placed under Unfinished
',Business for further discussion.
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ORAL COILMLr-1ICATIONS
'None
PUBLIC HEARINGS
iiC-31,066.3, 2. Applic:.ition HC-51 ,06d.3 o SIC:` 1AST raprasanted by
SIGN:IASTE,'.: r in . oval of a sign plr afor
a co,:•ru_-rcial bu. i.ciing loc_rad in the All American
1 Shopping Center, 20051 Bol-linger Road.
'As the applicant was not present, 'ie.:ber Sallari moved this application
'be deferred to the end of the agenda. ',lamber ScLaren seconded the
motion.
Lotion carried, 5-0
'3. Application HC-51,202.5 of FE-iE1,AL SIGN AN-: S"G:AL CORPO'.A."ION
representing- Dzan ,;I:Zitter and Company requesting approval of a
sign plan for a co::�iarcial offic_ building located at the south -
sat corner of Ste•:_ns CL _.al: Boulevard and =inch Avenue.
Staff '5i1r. Cowan noted the aplicc�nt's r_qu:=.st was for approval to mount a
Ranort 1 2' 6" Y 9' nt_rnally i .ilu !�inatz-d pla tic sign on the wean .:fitter Co.
building within the .3arclays Bank Ca-.t r. The present sign is gold
1.
Matters illuminated by. spotlights. lha Staff falt perhaps a plastic
,;sign was inappropriate.
Proposal fir. Tim Cassidy, Sign and Signal Corporation, said if the appli-
cation was appro%!ed, the prss_nt l.ttering on tha left sida would be
removed as it was rzp titious. ri_ said the prc:;l_m is paople have
'difficulty inding the building with nr. Zns int Si-,_n. He showed samples
.of sign material, slats and wizite plastic, file said tha cl.iant felt the
illuminated si n was still coasarvaCiv: , tut v ..uld i-telp i;12-ntify build-
ing. Tie columns block sign e •:cept to traffic passi?lg diractly in front
of building.
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Slides W,.!ember Sallan asked to have slides shown of present building signing.
Identified - '~fir. Cassidy pointed out the gold lit+ =rs don't shata up on brick walls
tion land the cli=nt was -:issinc, identitication h_ should be gutting.
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MINUTES OF HE iANUARY 3 1'�73 Ii-CON I Ol, I11�`EIINIG �+ HC-70
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Staff Member Cowan pointed ,out that the Barclay Dank sign is a 7 Place on
shopping center sign and Dean Witter could now file for a place center sign
on that sign,
Chairman Sargent agreed the gold leaf would stand out better
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against a stained wood background better than against the brick,
traffic
The location of the sign was the problem and until ' other buildings'
were placed in the center, traffic would not come in,as shown on
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slides, He commented that _ean Witter.: is an excellent organiza-
tion and merited adequate identification, He suggested perhaps
i l 1 ii L li 1C! U �J �.l.ed abo�%%.z L,i CiUOL.
Iiember I.oeritzer sail riou he t'ght the gold lettering was more
Gold leaf
elegant and in keeping with the firm. He suggested movie over
appropriate
to a position on different side of column or mounting on a wood
to center
plank could accomplish objectives and keep elegance of gold letters.,
He also suggested a second sign on east or west face of building,
but Mr. Cassidy said the client did not want to add any additional
signs, He also answered _,_re Cowan's suggestion of a sign on the,
shopping center sion b- saying there was too great a distance`
between the center sign and their building,
Tember Dressler ascertained there was a 3' canopy under the over--
Recessed
hang' anal. snag-sted a recessed light to shine down on the .. gold
A
light
letters,to make then stand out, 11r,. Cassidy said there was
illumination from ground lights but that the columns hide sign
except directly in front. Hoving the sign from left to right
will help but would "still not give enough identification,
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Member Sallan noted that changing brick back round to wood and
Retaining
retaining the gold letters would retain conformity of cen:teroJQ
center_ confoLt-
ity
'r. Cassidy said the only difference is letters from gold to
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white, The distance from the center sign would make conformity
-to roof more important,
Mr. Cassidy was then notified of the alternatives
available to
Decision
` him; He said this was the sign the client wanted
and he would
asked
Prefer to have the committee either approve or disapprove
and
then application sent to City Council,
I Chairman Sargent then announced this was,,a Public
Hearing and
asked
Comments
j for comments from audience. There=were none,
invited
Al
' Member, Koenitz,er moved, seconded by Member Sallan,
thatE'ublic
hear
Public Hearin
j rgs be closed.
closed
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'r.C-51,202. Member. Dressler mov,2-' that Application HC-51,202.5 including Exhibit F
approved be modified to relocate the existing; buil;lin identification, being
w/modifi- Dean Witter and Co., Incorporated, i-rorl the east side to the west
cation side of the building and to use the c:i:;ting gold letters; these to
be mounted on a ,atching slate colored background to match with the
color and architectural design of the roof. The motion is intended
to include relocation of *round illumination for night light. dumber
Sallan seconded.
HC-519068.3
SignmastarI
Copy cha n-
Puling to
be made
'ub lic :.aar
ings closed
IIC-51,068..3-
approvad
w/ cond i tion
AYES: Members Bressler, Koanitzer., Sallan and Chairman Sargent
NOES: 'Iember _IcLaren
.Motion carried, 4-1
:_`ember _.cLar-�r, wished to not- that F'he felt the appli,-
had much accomplished for him.
Chair:..ari ut On,- _ s the ,:; i to to gold
letters and from iluminatiog lights to exterior lights.
After further brier discussion, the applicant was notified this
application would be hoard before tlia City Council on vanuary 15,
1973.
2. Application HC-51,068.3 -- Signmaster.
The applicant was still not in audit ace. Chairman Sargent added
'\Ir. Cowan to sha;a slides of proposed sign and surrounding area.
.1r. Coldan noted tile- sign will be 2- x 8' and m t all criteria.
Aftar a bri_-f discussion among Comm _tt_a members, it was agraed that
even though the applicant was not pies-nt, a ruling could be made
based on Staff's p:r--santation.
Chairman Sargent askad for question,,, or comIents f rota audience.
There were none.
Iember I:oenitzer moved, s_condsd by :`--iabZr IcLarsn, to closa Public
hearings.
:Member IcLaren moved to rec.or,:im .nd approval. of ilC-51,068.3 to City Council
with the conditions that the sign i!; to b 2' x 8' instead of 2'. x 9'
bas applicant proposed, subjact to condition = and standard H.-Control
conditions. 'Aemb .r t,oen_! tzer s^con�l^.0 tha motion.
AYES: Members dress:1ar_, -IcLaren, Sallan and
Chairman Sargent
NOES : gone
`lotion carried, 5-0
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Applicant to
be notified
Ho Ho zestau--
rant
Slide of
propos,d.,sgn
copy
Application.
continued
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Restaurant '
HINUT7ES 01 IHE JA1x'1UA Y 3, 1973
Mr. Cowan is to notify the applicant of the committee's decision.
RE 'IEitii OF CHANGE OF COPY ON SIGN FACE
4, BILL ENG (Ho Ho Restaurant) requesting change of copy of
an existing,sign located in the All American Shopping
Center, 10895 S. Blaney Avenues
It was noted this sign is inthe same shopping center as in previous
a:s7,�1j_c tioil ! -xis inlg sign of °`Cofff Shop" is. to be c}1a3�,a
Ho Ho :restaurant, 1•1r9 Cowan showed slides of proposed sign. Fie said
:h-a had' asked th. applicant to be at the hearing 9 but the applicant
was not presents
I mber .IcLar, n said she felt there was too much on sign and too _home-
made ,looking, "_`here was generalconcurrence among the committee
meiibe-rs
i�'iember 7icLaren recommended to continue application, with sign to
be resubmitted with batter copy and more in keeping with other sighs
in the. cerit;ero feinb•er Sallan seconded the motion.
AYES .o Members Dressler, Koenitzers iicLar_�n, Sallan. and
Chsi -„an Sargent
NOES:
?Motion carried, 5-0
tTN '1::dISilry DL'SIESS
:Member 2IcLaren noted the sign at the Mexican Restaurant which has been
under discussion had -bloom down during the storms, but hadbeen replaced
Mr. Cogan said the City Attorney was in touch with the owners, and they
would be.coming in for review of sign plan,
Chairman Sargent noted Vallco Park calls for one sign per tenant, and
Wells Fargo Bank had two, Mr. Gowan said a temporary sign had been put
up in conjunction with grand opening but would be kept under survey,
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tIlE St,',ILUS O'_ lklll!:' slOple, angic on the corner of
lrlor,,estn_acl !.,oaJi an--: A,11-MI0. :11 Cowin s, �.,- i U-1 t I i e grad is h -) d bean
C hccked an c,,-, d n7 nro,. by En"inEcrin,', but he t, lU7.d ch-,ck
into the further.
urther.
S:i-11- Service Station wh;tr:, big tr?es had been
rMisplaca,d had notific-ci. :Ir. Cov.,i-in said :.r. Shappard had dona so.
r Sa'lan s-,;,;,gasted hol�in,; tha r.,a�-_,tingy planne,11 ear'Liar ragarding
us-n oer7aits; this to bre, a jo:!,-,t uitli Pla-Lnin- Co-l-,lli-Ji-ssion. 'fr.
Co-,7 an c a 11 �ad z_ ` t c n t ion to ills m i: a n (11-,,7:1 on Su3 ed il? v i - �_ on s in ,- 11 e
Sit-- its
Content On i7 o.-;,,,i L ,,Ta s v c, h o I d a T) r z!,i L ,' r 1 n c o n 1: n c e -.)ri-or to Che
of f ici--1 filinv ci-.t-_ fa): ap- 1 1 ca-tion. the -r was to have this
t n t i 1- (1
L,- tit i t -.'s not� lnat
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to I n t a, t on.
a i: o L that at t'n z L, s t ::I t-1-1-- Asz\c 11,au,
-7- LLIary -17 mzeting
contirlued c v s t au ra-� i L unti-I talc -I I
an, .os to .,111-- InsId in th�_ to dicut3s
-I spacial
_u4 _ I - -ItiC re ,.-o,-s=1C!-- - I
d�_2 IinE:s for th- ZT -h
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was sznt Lor r,2`�.dav Zaniiary 8, to bn- h-_Id in the 11 b r::i i:,, o
li�a wou__� `nviL� thz-
'ity "all.
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11 �I u:7, f r_ _.Itsd and a brig,
L -L,s�-'on
s c rInai_-dn, plans for '-'e.:.-n Czntar Crossro�-,.rjs
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','r. ICOWUn r n�i,,I a coirmunicat ion fro Cu',,ii- l* t� I CO.t, , 4 -1 iln-s and ragarail P, the
S41-, at t'—_ Barclay ',III'- to I)s allowi d to I-awi the
I'a s " av 111 J_ an (-) 11 cj" Ij -110-,; s L S. _I D _� 17 .-Xi—ar2n MOVP.d that
sisn r.=,,,.uLn as it zn L r Sallan s-cond--d tli-n tion.
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ih__ con -Ii-iiitt�a egre_ld unr,iinously.
1-1t jon carried. 5-0
_-,.ocnitzc.r not2d on LILIL con d,--,,-.i _Ln i-ui-,i comT)1x on Sunnyval-e-
Saratoga '_0O! L11a 11_.ig'Llt Of wlas 6 11i;ii with di--i-lin tile
pass throu4-,,I1. Ha said th,� uound to be 6' x.w', was no,,j 101.
b,:,causo of truck. traffic.
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ATTEST: APPROVED:
sl Win. E. Ryder /s/ L. Don Sargent
City Clerk Chairman