CC 01-05-65CITY OF C U P E !_ `y I iV 0
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1.0321 So. Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road (C.Ity Hall)
Cupertino, California, 501.4 un: 2�L�'�7
MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE CIT`? COUNCIL, ?an. 5, 1965
TIME: 8:00 P.M.
PLACE: Collins School Mul.tipurposc Room
COUNCILMEN PRESENT: Dempster (8:30), Fitzgerald, Noel, Stokes, Finch
COUNCILMEN ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: City Manager, Phil Storm
City C.Ierk, Larry Martin
Recording Secretary, Lois Inwards
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Finch at 8:10 P.M. at the
Collins School Multipurpose Room.
The first matter of business regarded the up -coming meeting with the
Stevens Creek Blvd. property owners involved in the right-of-ways for
the Stevens Creek Blvd. improvement project.. The City Manager said he
had written to them and found the majority of said people can meet
with the City Councilmen the week of January 25th.
MINUTE ORDER:
Moved by Councilman Fitzgerald, seconded by Councilman Noel, to meet
with the Stevens Creek Blvd. property owners on Thursday, January 28th,
8:00 P.M., at City Hall.
Motion carried, 4-0
The other matter of business was in regard to the city hall architecture.
Mayor Finch said a petition was submitted, with 457 names on it, ask-
ing for a reopening of the city hall architecture matter. There were
approximately one hundred citizens at this meeting.
Dr..Joseph Brown, 20985 Peppertree Lane, Cupertino, started the pre-
sentation by the Citizens' Committee. He said we should identify our
city; it won't be the biggest, but it will be the best. This will
encourage industries to settle here and, in turn, mean more tax money.
The DeAnza College is going to be established here. The beautification
of our commercial streets has been started. The Historical Landmarks
Committee has come up with some interesting facts about our area.
Dr.. Brown thought we should exploit the assets we have here. He said
DeAnza was here long enough and was sufficiently impressed to have a
plaque struck to record this fact. The Spanish accent is being
utilized in the architecture of the college..
Dr. Brown had some colored slides to illustrate his point: first, a
map showing the location of the college and that of 'the city hall. He
'°o' then showed pictures of several renderings of the DeAnza College. The
buildings were of adobe, stucco, some wood and fiat -top roofs with
only the the overhang visible from ground level. It will reflect the
Spanish heritage of the area,
Dr. Brown then showed pictures of Stanford University buildings, the
Palo Alto post office and Palo Alto Community Center as examples of
variations of Spanish architecture.
Mr. Louis Stocklmeier, 22120 Steveno Creek Blvd., spoke next of how
this community seems to lean to,;,,-ard the Early California architecture.
Our "Artist of Cupertino" had drawn up a picture of a. sunken garden in
front of an Early California building which had been envisioned as
Cupertino's city hall. He feels a type of architecture similar to
this would make people really remember Cupertino. Mr. Stocklmeier
passed this picture around 'the Councj_1 and the audience, for all to see.
Mr. Herb Bevin, 20910 Peppertree Lane, said the people of Cupertino
care about the appearance of their city. They have approved a sub-
stantial amount of money for a city hall and for five city parks. The
city hall must set the pace, architecturally, for the rest of the city.
Mr. Bevin said he had checked with the Chief Building Inspector, who
told him the city has never committed itself to any one type of archi-
tecture. Mr. Bevin felt we must establish "community identity." He
asked if Cupertino will be known as "the city with all the gas stations"
or "the city with the beautiful city hall."
Mr. John Chee, 11266 Monterey Court, asked if there is a legal style
of the buildings in the town center. He feels we should have some kind
of legal agreement to control the architecture in the civic center.
He was not in favor of leaving the approval of the design up to the
H-Control Committee. He recommended that consideration be given to
avoiding the situation whereby the city could come up with a legal
agreement to this effect.
Mr. David Laing, 11931 Oak Dell Court, feels the people in the city of
Cupertino appreciate the fact that the city staff is working'in
cramped quarters now, but this is not the time when expediency is the
answer. He said that just because an architect is hired by the city,
it is naive to think that his ideas must go unchallenged. Mr. Laing
said that at the October 22nd study session, the architect was
directed to prepare two or three styles of buildings. He came up with
over fifty different roof treatments for the same building. Mr. Laing
felt that if we start off with a flat roof in the town center we are
simply inviting industry with inferior bu-il.dings in mlind.
Mr. Laing challenged the architect's statements that there is not
enough money to build a city hall with a the roof. He had specific
figures, based on the same formulae used by the architect, showing
that it could be done. He said that we have the opportunity here to
be real leaders and get a really impressive city hall. Palo Alto is
more involved in the "Space Age" than Cupertino, and will be for a
long, long time. Their civic buildings are very impressive. The
Wells -Fargo and the Palo Alto Savings and Loan buildings in the town
center are different, but compatible.
Mr. Doug Folsom, 11235 Catalina Court, said it was his understanding
that the architecture was not set at the time he worked on the bond
election. The whole idea of this city hall is to represent and
reflect Early California. This will set the quality of the type of
architecture to follow in the civic center. He does not believe it
is the wish of the people -- or the will of the people -- to build
what is presently proposed.
Mr. George Bosich, 20776 Scoffie.d, said he took a petition around
and nobody refused to sign it. The people stated they had voted for
the money for a city hall, not for the building presently proposed.
Mr. Otis Forge, 20619 HomesCead Road, said hip, home is of mission style
and was built twenty-eight years ago. It still looks good as new.
This style lasts.
Mr. George Hollingsworth, 22438 Baluctroi Court, asked what steps
would be taken if this citizens' group is successful in changing the
thinking away from the present proposal. Mayor Finch said it will be
a Council decision. This meeting is being held to get the feeling of
the citizens.
Mr.. Warner Wilson, 10237 Creston Drive, felt the proposed design was
a pretty good looking building. He feels Cupertino is going to be
the newest, shiniest city in the West Valley. We should be talking
about the future. If we build something that is fashionable, or a
little obsolete now, it will look shoddy ten years from now.
Mr. Wilson said he started this "DeAnza thing" on a pretty flimsy
basis. He said he was very much aware of the public hearings about
the proposed city hall and was in accord with plans as they were going
along. Before the bond election he put out a "throw away" paper to
all homes in Cupertino, showing the proposed city hall. He feels the
majority vote (2 /3) gives the City Council the aL#thority to go ahead
and choose the architecture. He feels'the architect has done a
conscientious job.
Mayor Finch read aloud a letter from Mrs. Ann Anger, 10185 Imperial,
M'onta.Vista, stating that the Spanish theme should be carried out.
And, if the $450,000 is not sufficient; maybe some of our financially
indowed citizens would like to contribute to this worthy cause; it is
tax deductible.
Mr. Louis Stocklmeier feels there has been some overplay in trying to
tie this in with DeAnza, since he was only one of six or eight ex-
plorers who crossed this valley. However, we have no other pattern
that is indicative of Cupertino Heritage. The College is creating
an atmosphere which is peculiar to our commi-inity.
Mr. Robert Phillips, 20677 Craig Court, said he has lived here about
a year. He said he voted for the bond issue on the basis of money
for a city hall, not for a particular building. When he came into
the area he had heard of Cupertino but not where it was. He asked if
we want Cupertino to stand out on its own or .to be known as the city
next to Sunnyvale. First impressions of a city come from the city
hall. A building can give you a feeling of warmth and friendship.
He said he was not advocating a Spanish design, but he was advocating
a friendly design.
Mrs. Pat Thorne, 11072 Bel Air Court, felt the building now proposed
was to.o.expensive. She asked if we were "throwing up a city hall"
to prevent a merger between Cupertino and Sunnyvale. The Mayor assured
her there were no such ulterior motives.
Mrs. Spillette, 10371 Plum Tree Lane, said she voted for the bond and
was aware of the proposed architectu:,e when she voted. However, she
is in favor of Spanish archi_t,F cture and she arIpeal_ed to the City Council
to reconsider because of the fine argume,nts bpough.t forth at 'this meet-
ing.
Mayor Finch called for a five-minute break.
It was moved by Councilman Dempster, seconded by Councilman Fitzgerald,
to close the Public Hearing.
AYES: Councilmen Dempster, Fitzgerald, Noel, Stokes, finch
NOES: None
Motion carried, 5-0
Councilman Fitzgerald felt that some facts should be brought into the
open. Two years ago when the people decided to have a town center
they produced a brochure which had all flat -top buildings. The city
hall was a two-story, flat top buildings The zoning was granted over
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2-1/2 years ago. The design for the city hall was approved over a
year ago. Councilman Fitzgerald feels the proposed plan is a good one.
Councilman Stokes wanted to clarify some impressions brought out at
this meeting; one being that the new college design is because of
some historical relationship. He said he was at a meeting where he
learned that the design for DeAnza College was arrived at because
of the building which exists on the property -- an old winery.
Another thing, about $16 million has been spent on new schools in the
area and there have been no citizens' committees formed to discuss
the architecture of these buildings.
Councilman Noel wondered whether this was 20-20 foresight or 20-20
hindsight. He, personally, likes the proposed architecture; however,
he liked the other type of roof than displayed at this meeting.
Councilman Dempster said he did not feel that Palo Alto Savings and
Loan building should necessarily set the style of architecture for
the town center. He did not feel DeAnza is strictly Spanish archi-
tecture. He does not feel it should be the exact design it is now,
but it should not be drastically changed either.
Mayor Finch wanted to publicly deny that the City Council voted on
the proposed city hall design with any ulterior motives. He said
complacency in the community breeds this sort of situation. There
have been at least 14 public meetings in the past two years and only
one person, Mr. Laing, was sufficiently interested to attend them.
He said money and time could have been saved if the Council had known
earlier the wishes of the public.
Mr. Will Blessing, the architect, said that any requirements were to
have been made known to him by October 27, 1963. He said he had
asked what type of architecture was preferred and he worked from there.
He said this is essentially a bedroom community and felt the city hall
should be of a residential nature. He said he specifically asked if
the style was to be mission tile and he was told it was not. He said
the building costs were forwarded along with the preliminary drawings
on February 7, 1964. He feels now that a basement could be included
in the $450,000. Mr. Blessing then showed the audience renderings
of the proposed city hall with seven choices of roof.
Councilman Dempster said that Mr. Blessing has tried to do everything
the Council has asked him to do.
It was moved by Councilman Fitzgei,ald, seconded by Councilman Stokes,
to reopen the Public Hearing.
Motion carried, 5-0
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Mr. Laing said he does not feel that the reopening of this matter has
delayed the bids going out. He also challenged the price formulae
on the various buildings.
Mr. Charles Snyder, 10433 Glenview, said that if we should go by the
brochure, then we have already permitted three buildings, to be built
in the town center out of concept.
Mr. Don Frolich, 10300 Richwood Drive, said there was some wrangling
at the bond election meeting. He came away from that meeting feeling
IMW that we hadn't closed the matter of architecture. Also, the fact
that the bond election was side-tracked for so long may be the reason
people became complacent.
Mr. Frolich said the -Pact about the college architecture -being decided
uponbecauseof the old winery on the property points up the fact that
that type of architecture does identify with this community.
Lastly, Mr. Frolich said the parks bond issue was passed with a
somewhat larger vote than the city hall.
Mr. Stocklmeier questioned the architect at great length about whether
or not the building would be earthquake -proof. Mr. Blessing said his
structural engineer, Mr. McFarlane, has worked this all out according
to code.
Mr. Stocklmeier said that at the bond election pep talk he was told
that the building design could be decided upon at a later date and
they should concentrate on raising the money. He felt the exterior
design was decided upon in a relatively short period of time.
Councilman Dempster felt the building design was adequately publicized.
He said the Board of Supervisors decided on a whole civic center with-
out the aid of a citizens' committee.
Moved by Councilman Stokes, seconded by Councilman Noel, tc close the
public hearing.
AYES: Councilmen Dempster, Fitzgerald, Noel, Stokes, Finch
NOES: None
Motion carried, 5-0
By request, it was moved by Councilman Dempster, seconded by Council-
man Fitzgerald, that the public hearing be reopened for fifteen
minutes.
AYES: Councilmen Dempster, Fitzgerald, Noel, Stokes, Finch
NOES: None
Motion carried, 5-0
The Mayor asked the public to please not be repetitious.
Mr. McElvey, 21783 Terrace Drive, asked how much money has been spent
so far on this project. The Mayor said it was $7500.
SPIN
Mr. McElvey said he moved to Cupertino in the middle of 1963. There
are many new people here in Cupertino with new homes and they are busy
getting settled and so, quite often, they are complacent about civic
affairs. He has been impressed by the fact that the people here say
they all want a Spanish tyre of bui-I..ding. The new people moving into
the community are going to share the cost of the building. No job of
any kind should be approached without an. overall perspective of what
you want to attain. He suggested a committee of from one to three
people who are qualified to take a look at this thing. In all due
respect to this architect, it may be a good idea to get viewpoints of
other qualified persons,
Mrs. Ann Anger, 10185 Empire Avenue, Monta Vista, said she is not
complacent. She comes to every Planning Commission and City Council
meeting. She feels, however, that the City Council study sessions
should not be on the same nights as Planning Commission meetings.
Mrs. Helen Garcia, 20092 John Drive, said she and her neighbors would
like to see some sort of character established here. She has lived
in Cupertino for five years; may be moving soon, but would like to see
Cupertino headed in the right direction anyway. She wanted to know
if there is a basic overall plan.
Mr. Charles Snyder wanted to know when the Council planned to take
action on this matter.. Mayor Finch said it was up to the Council.
Dr. Joseph Brown said he started all this and now hopes to finish it.
Unforeseen events have taken place in the past two years that should
have some bearing on the matter. The character has been set by the
college and he feels we should follow through with it. The taxpayers
should not resent spending $7500 where 1/4 million dollars is
involved.
Councilman Stokes asked hoer to go about selecting such a committee to
decide upon the architecture. Mr. McElvey said the Mayor could
appoint two or three qualified people. Mr. Warner Wilson said he was
against a committee. He feels the City Council should decide. Mr. Don
Frolich was in agreement with Mr. Wilson. He suggested the City
Council take whatever council they feel necessary to arrive at their
decision.
Moved by Councilman Dempster, seconded by Councilman Stokes, to close
the public hearing.
AYES: Councilmen Dempster, Fitzgerald, Noel, Stokes, Finch
NOES: None
Motion carried, 5-0
Moved by Councilman Dempster, seconded by Councilman Stokes, that the
architect be requested to submit two concepts of a mission type of
design, taking into consideration the Palo Alto Savings and Loan
building, the Wells -Fargo Bank building, and the college architecture.
This motion was amended by Councilman Stokes, seconded by Councilman
Dempster, that this not be restricted to one particular style; there
are many variations possible.
VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT:
AYES: Councilmen Dempster, Noel, Stokes, Finch
NOES: Councilman Fitzgerald
Pmendment carried, 4-1.
VOTE ON THE MOTION:
AYES: Councilmen Dempster, Noel, Stokes, Finch
NOES: Councilman Fitzgerald
Motion carried, 4-1
Meeting adjourned at 11:05 P�14.
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.. 8ef!tir¡g was called to order by Mayor Finch at 8:10 P.M. at the
CoU1Dø Schoo:' Multipurpose Boom.
Ybe first mat":~r of bu81- T regarded the up-coming rœef;ing w1th the
SUwena Creek 31vd. pro~ oorr.ers involved in the right-cf-waya for
UIe Stevens :~ek Blvd. ~O'S'e:¡ent project. The Cit7 l'anager Baid he
~ writtEn t: th~m and taar:d tl".e majcr1ty ot said people can meet
If1.tb the City ~ounc11men the week of Jar.-..a!'Y ~5th.
AJlJLE ORDER:
~e~ by COU:::~:2n Pitz.:ö:-:.::::, :;z~or.de¿ ;,y CounciJ.:::a:-. S~:!., to meet
.r-.~h the Ste.~c.3 Creek 5J......~. ;::-c;",rty o>,'e"s on T;-:"'!'~~7, January 28th,
:==00 P.M., at ~lty Hall.
:~~t~C'~ c2':":,1~d. l4-0
~ o'ther mat:-=:" cf busl!'6e~~ ......as in reg"~ro t() th~ clt:y :-~ll architecture.
III:~ Pinch s=.~:. a petlt~~:-- ..c-~~ s~b:ñt;.~eè.. \-:ith 457 f'"3:::e& on It, ask-
~ ~or a rec;~:'..ir.g 01" the =':'~y :-211 c1rc!:::s~~~~e r..ut,'t~r. ';here were
__ ozimately :,..e hundred c~'::.=e,..z <:.t tt.~: - £"tir.g.
:ir. Joseph Br:..-':, 209&.; Pe;:?,,_~ree Lane, ::::p~rtino, s-.;;;.!',;e1 the pre-
~tion by t::~ Citizer.a· :~t:;ee. he s,,:'d I<e sh-;-,1l1 identity our
=s.q; 1t won'~ =e the bigges':. !:>ut it will be the best. ':his will
e:rx:ourage inà-.;s'.;!'ies to sett:.e he!'e and, :.~ turr:, a:car. ::>ere tax money.
~ DeAnza Cc::,.ge is goL'"1@; t:) be establ1s~ed here. '!'t.e beautif1cat10n
or oar coømerc~al streets ha:! !:.een started. The Historical Landmarks
C_ 1ttee has :::e up with SC'4IIe ir.terestlr.g tacts abco.¡t :)= area.
Ðr. Br-own tho"'f~t we shou1d exploit the assets we have here. He said
___ was he~ long enough ~ was su1"tlciently impressed to have a
~ struck '.;-:¡ record th1..8 ract. The Spanish accent is being
at1117-ed in tt.... architecture ~ the college.
tar. Br-own had ¡¡::me colored s11t!es to illustrat;e his point: first, a
... ISblMing th: location ot the c:::llege <!nè. t;hat of the city hall. He
tIleD sboIfed p!~!;ures ot 8e"~"!. renderin;;3 o! the De"nza College. The
1Ird341J1gs were ~t adobe, 81;=':0, some wood ani 1"lat-top roots with
cm13r the tHe c.e:-har.g v1s1b~ !'ro:ll ground le-~el. It 101111 retlect the
'::. lf1h herita;,. of the area.
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Dr. Brown then showed pictures of Stanford University buildings, the
Palo Alto p.::st office and ?alo Uto COffiDl1ln1ty Cer.ter as exan:ples of
variations cf Spanish architecture.
Mr. Louis Stocklmeier, 22120 Stever"" Creek Blvc:.., sp:>ke next ot" how
i;his coumunity seems to lea!l towsI'd the Early Callt"ornia architecture.
Our "Artist cf Cupertino· had drawn up a picture ot" a sunken garden in
f'ront of an Early Cal1!'o,.-rJ.a bulldlng "hich had been envisioned as
Cupert1no's city hall. i:e f eels a type of architecture similar to
1;Ms would uake people really reæaber C~¡PCrt1no. Mr. Stocklmeier
passed this picture armmd the Council ar.d the audience, t"or all to see.
111". Herb Bev1n, 20910 Pe~rtree Ia!\!!, sald the people ot" Cupertino
care about the appearance ot their city. They have approved a sub-
stantial a:oount of aoney far a city hall and for five city perks. The
city hall must set the pace. archi'.ecturally. for the rest ot" the city.
111". Bevin said he had checked .,ith the Chiet" Building Inspector, .,ho
toM him the city has never committed itseI1" to any one type of archl-
tecture. Mr. Bevin felt we IDUBt establ1sh "colllll1Ullty 1dent1ty." He
asked it" Cupertino will be known 8.S "the cit~' 'Hlth all the gas stat 10118 '
ar "the city with 1;he beautit"ul c1ty hall. n
Mr. John Chee, 11266 Monterey Court, asked if there is a lega 1 style
of the bulldir.gs in the toom center. He t"eels we should have some klnd
ot" legal agreement to oontrol the architecture in the civic center.
He was not in favor ot" leaving the approval of the design up to the
a-Control C0~ittee. He recommended that cor~ideratlon be given to
avolding the situat10n wr.ereby the city could C:):Je up w1th a legal
agreement to thie eft"ect.
Mr. David Lalr.g, 11931 0aÍ': :Sell Court, feels the people in the city of
Cupertino appreciate the r~ct that the city ~tafr is wcrking in
crèœped quart~!'s now, but ~hls is not the time when expediency is the
answer. He said that Ju~~ tecause an a~ch~tect Is hired by the city,
it is naive to think ti".a':; :-.i~ ideas must sa unct?llenged. Mr. Laing
said that at the October "nã study ses;;ion, the architect was
~1rected to p!'epare two cr t~~ee styles ot" bulldlr.gs. He came up with
ever t"it"ty different roof tr~~t~nts for the se~é building. Mr. Laing
t'elt that if we start off -'1 t~. a f:!.at roof i:> tr.e to>m center we are
simply inviti~b industry ~lth i~ferior b~ilGìr5S ~ ~l~J.
Mr. Laing cha:lenged the <.:o,,:-.itect's statements that there is not
enough œoney ~o buiH a do~;'- r.all with a tile roof. He had specific
~1gures, based on the same forŒUlae used by the a!'chitect, showing
that it could be done. He said tr.at we r.ave the opportunity here to
t.e real leaders and get a really impressive city hall. Palo Alto is
2:>re involved in the "Space Age" than Cupert1no, and wlll be for a
long, long time. Their ci.ic buildings are very impressive. The
Vella-Fargo ar.:i the Palo Alto Savings and Loan buildings in the town
center are dlfferent, but compatible.
~. Doug Folsoæ, 11235 Catalina Court, said it was hls understanding
~hat the architecture was not set at the time he worked on the bond
e1ection. The whole idea ot" this city hall is to represent and
re!'lect F3.rly CalHornia. This will set the quality ot" the type of
arch~tecture to follow in the civic center. He does not believe it
ÜI the wish of the people or the will ot" the people -- to build
What is presently proposed.
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~. George Besier., 20776 Scotfie.d, s~id he took a petition around
and nobody rerused to sig~ it. The people stated they had vot~d for
the IWney for a city hall, 1'.01;; ;'01' t:·.;' building pnsently proposed.
Mr. Otls Forge, 206l9 Homestead Road,
and was built twenty-eight years ago.
Thla style lasts.
sai¿ r.is hO~ß is or Cl1ssion style
I.~ still looJao good as new.
M1-. George HOllingswortb. 22"'38 Balu::trol COIU't, asked what steps
would be taken it this citizens I g!'O\i.p is successful 1n chang1ng the
tþ1..H"'S away from the present Fopveal. Mayo!' Finch sald it wl11 be
a C___l1 decislon. This _eting is being held to get the feel1n8 ot
tbe-cl.tl.zena.
Kr. Varner Wilson, 10237 ~t"eston Drive. t"elt the proposed deslgn was
apre1:t;y good loolt1ng bu11dJDg. He feels CUpert1no is going to be
_ the Devest. sh1n1est city in the West Valley. We should be ta1k1D8
abollt the future. Ii' we build something that ls fashionable, or a
litt1e obsolete now, it will look shoddy ten years !"rom now.
Mr. Wilson sald he started this "DeAnza thlng" on a pretty t"1111187
basis. He said he was ver"l much aware ot" the pub11c hearings about
the proposed clty hall and was in aecord with plans as they were going
alor.g. Bet"ore the boD! election he put out a "throwaway' paper to
all homes 1n CUpert1no, showing the proposed city hall. He teels the
maJ~rlty vote (2/3) glves the Clty Councll the authority to go ahead
and choose the architecture. He t"eels -t~ architect has done a
cor~cientlous job.
¥ßy::r Finch read aloud a letter rro~ ~~3. hr~ Ang~r, 10125 I~perial,
Mont.a Vista, steting that tt.e Spanish theme should be car!'led out.
And, U the $450,000 Is not s~t1cl€~t, maybe some of 0= tir.ancially
lr.dowed citize!1S Kould like to cor.t!'n,,"~e t·) t(:~3 wertr.:r caUße; it is
tax c!t'ductible.
~~. Louis Stock:~eier t"eels there t2S been s~~ overplay in t~~ing to
tie this in with De.\nza, s~..:;e he '::1" only C:le or :!lx or eight ex-
plorers who crossed this valley. r..:"eve::-, I,e ha-¡e ¡;.c' other ¡:-attern
that Is Indicatlve or Cupert~.o Herita:;e. The C:¡lle¡;e is creatlr.g
an at!llosphere Kh10h is peculiar to .1ur eomm'.mit;r.
Mr. Robert PhIllips, 20677 CraIg Cou,t, saId he t1as 11ved here about
a year. He said he voted tor the bend issue on the basis ot money
t"or a clty hall, not t"or a particular building. :...t.en he came into
the ;area he had heard 01' Cupe!'tino but not where it was. f.e asked It
we want Cupertino to stand out on its own or to be known as the clty
next to Sunnyvale. First impressIons of a city come !"rom tt.e ^ity
hall. A. bu11dlng can glve you a t"eeling of warmth at'.d friendship.
He sald he was not advocating a Spanlah design, but he was advocating
a friendly design.
Mrs. Pat Thorne, 11072 Bel Air Court, t"elt the b>.lilding now proposed
was too expensive. She asked i1' we were "tbrowir.g up a city hall n
to prevent a Clerger between CUpertino an1 Sunnyvale. The Mayor assured
her there were no such ulterior motives.
Mrs. Spillette, l037l Plum Tree Lane, said she voted 1'01' the bond and
was aware of the proposed arcr.::.tcct~·e '"lh~n she voted. However, she
is in tavor ot" Span1ah arc~r.·;c1;ure a,.:j. she E-:':;>ealed to tt£ City Councll
t,) reccnsider because ot the ~ine arg...:ocr.ts b':'ought !"ol'th at thls meet-
ing.
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~yor Finch ~alled for a t"lve-~inute break.
It was m01:ed by Coun~llæn De~ster, seconded by C01.::!"~.l:\n Fitzgerald,
to close the Public Hearing.
ADS:
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Councll:æn Dempster, Fitzgerald, ¡Joel, Stokes, Finch
None
Motion carr~ed, 5-0
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". Coanc11mn P1tzgerald re11; that some facts should be brought into the
~~.;. Two years ago when the people decided to haye a town center
':Þ7 produced a brochure wblch had all flat-top buildings. The city
ÍIÌa1lwas a two-st017. 1'1&t top buUding. The zoning was gt'anted over
.~~ years ago. The design 1'or the city hall was apprøved oyer a
~ ago. . CO\lDCi11lan J'1tzgerald feels the proposed pIan 18 a good one.
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&runcilman Stokes wanted to clar11"y some impressions brought out r':;
th1s meeting; one being that the new college design 1s because ot"
SORe historical relationship. He said he was at a meetlng where he
1.earned that the design for DeAnza College was arrived at because
01' the building wh1ch ex18ts on the property -- an old winer,;.
Another thing, about $16 m1ll1on has been spent on new soOOols in the
area and the!'e r.;¡;(e been 1U) citizens' committees t"or:r:ed to dlscuss
the !'.,·chitect\ò!'e ot these buildings.
Councilman ~~: wondered ~hether this was 20-20 foresight or 20-20
hindsight. ::e, per30nally, :ikes the proposed architecture; however,
r.e liked the ~t:-,er type of roof than displayed at this meeting.
Co-.mcilman r~=?Ster said he did not feel ti.at Palo Alto Savings and
Loan tulld:'r.g silOJuld necessarily set the style of architectur'" for
the tcwn ~en:~~. He did ~~t feel DeAn=a is strictly Spanish archl-
tecture. r~ ~~es not feel it shculd be the ~xact design it is now,
but it shou¡~ ~~t be drast:'c~lly charged either.
Mayor Fir.ch ~ar.ted to pucUcl:; deny th~t the City Ccur.cil voted or.
the proposed .::~ty hall design with any ¡;.lterior Cloti'¡es. He said
cOlllplscency ~~ the COu:cuni1;;r breeds this sort of sittoation. There
have been at :east l4 public ::>8£tirgs in the past two ;rears a~..1 only
one person, ~. Laing, ~a3 sut"!'icier.tl~· illtere3ted to atter.d them.
He said II:Or~y an.! tlme could have been ,,~ved it" t!'.e Council had Known
earlier the "lshes ot" the publ1c.
1Ir. "'111 :Blessi:".£:, the arc:-.1tect, sald that any requirements were to
have been œde known to h1:l by Octcber 27, 1963. He said he had
asked what type of architecture was preferred and he worked t"rolll there.
He said this is e~sentially a bedroom co=un1ty and t"elt the city hall
sbou.ld be of a residential œture. He said t.e specifi"ally asked if
the s~yle was to> be mission tile and he was told it was not. He said
the building c.::sts were 1'orwarded along with the prelim1nary drawings
011 J'ebruary 7, 1964. He 1'eels now that a basement could be included
In the $450,000. Mr. Blessing then showed the audience rendering:!
at the propos.d city hall wlth seven choices ot" roof.
Councilman De~pster said that Mr. Blessing has tried to do dverything
the Counc11 has asked hi:ll to do.
X~ _s moved by Councilman I"_tzge¡,'ald, secorèed by Councilman Stokes,
Co reopen the Public Het ~i~.
Motio~ carried, 5-0
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Mr. Ia1ng saii he does not f'eel that the reopening of'th1:: matter has
de1ayed the bids going out. He also challenged the price forr.u11ae
Oft the varlous bu11dings.
1Ir'. Charles Snyder, 10433 Glenv~ew, ¡:aid that 1t' we should go by the
brochure, then we have already ~rm1tted three buildir.gn to be built
1D the town c~nter out of' concept.
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JIp.~ Doli' ;roÍ1dt.-lQ300 R1.cbfoOdBr1~~.,....!d·1;here was lIome wrangl1Jlg
d the bCbd election meet1ng. He came away from that meet~ f'ee1ing
tÞat _ badntt clÖaëd the ÍlBtter or architecture. Alao. the f'act
tllat the boDS elect10n _II 81de-tracked tor £0 1cmg -7 be the reason
1IiIOP1e beca_ cOllP1ace~.
. 1Ir. J'rol1ch aald the tact about the college architecture being dec1ded
upon because ot the old w1ner'7 on the property points up the taot that
~lat type or archit.ecture doeR identi1"y wlth this cOlllDUJl1ty.
Llult17, Mr. Prol1ch said t'lIe parka bond Issue was passed with a
_hat larger vote than t~.$! city hall.
1Ir'. Stocklmeier questlor.e~ the architect at great length about whether
or not the buildlng would be earthquake-proor. Mr. Blessing said his
stl"'.1otural engineer, Mr. Y.cl'arlar.e, ha::: workcd this all out accordlng
to code.
1Ir'. Stocklmeier sald that at the bond e~¿ction pe'!) talk he was told
that the bui::1ing ð.es1gn could be declded ~?On at a later date and
the7 shO\.ld c::ncentrate cn rais:'ng the :xmey. lie t"elt the exterior
design tms ~ecl:1ed upon in a rf'!latlvely short period ot" tir::e.
Co'.ltlollman :e=;lster l"elt the bulldlr.g j~sign was adeqnatel;( publ1ci::ed.
He sald the "--.ard or Supervi:!ors decided on a whole clvlc cent':!r wlth-
o~ the aid ~~ a cltlze~' cc~ttec.
1'.0'1'811 by Cour..::il::øn Stokes, secor.ded by ;0u."1cI1oan Noel, tc close the
public hearir.g.
AYES:
NOES :
Coun::il~n Decpster, F1t=g~r3~d, Noel, Stokes, FInch
None
Motion :a~ried, 5-0
B,- request, it was mo\'ed by Counoilman Dempster, seconded by Council-
an P1tzgeral:1, that the p;bl1c hearing be reopened t"or t"i1'teen
&1rJutes.
AYES :
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Councll=en Dempster, Fitzgerald, Noel, Stokes, Pinch
None
Motion carried, 5-0
The Mayor asked the publ10 to please roOt be repetltloUB.
1Ir'. McElvey, 21783 Terrace Drive. aslœ'1 how much mcney has been spent
,110 hr on this project. The Mayor sald it was $ï500.
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P.r. !o'.cElve)" s?~ð. he moved to Cuœrt~:'\o in the middle of 1963· 'It.ere
are army roe" ¡>-èople here L"l Cu~:'tbO with new homes aNi they are t;lSY
getting sett~ed am so. quite o:':;en, the~' a:'e cO:Ilplacen" about civic
aUairs. Fe !".as been impresse:! ~:.- t~.;; :'c_~t "!''.:It lÒ"le people here say
they all I<a~;; a SpanJ.sh tr.>e of bu1Jding. Tèlc re·.< people caving into
the commur.i~y are going to shere the cost of the building. No job of
aD7 k1J1d should be approache¿ \"l~th=t <in overall perspectlve of what
70U want to attain. lie 8'.Jggested a cG::Irlttee o~ fro:n one to three
people who are quaUf'1ed to take a look at tills thing. In all due
respect to this arch11:ect. 1t may be a good idea to get vielf!101nts of
~ quautied peraœa.
.... Am ~, 10185 EIIp1re Avenue. Monta V1ata. sald she is not
COIIIPlacent. She COlleS to every Plam1!lg CODI1ss1on and City council
_tinge She feela' boIfever. that the City Council study sessions
abou1d II"t be on the aa_ nights as Plam1!lg CoJa1.Ssion meetings.
Mrs. Helen Garcia. 20092 .Tom Drive, said she and her neighbors would
11ke to see some sort of character established here. She has lived
1.n Cupartino t"or t"ive years; may be IDOving soon, but would like to see
Cupertino hea:ied in the right direction anyway. She wanted to know
if there is a baslc overall plan.
l'r. Charles Sr.yder wanted to know when the Councl1 plar.ned to take
action on t::~s matter. Mayor Finch said it was up to tne Council.
=T. Josep~ ~:~~ said he started all this and now hopes to finish It.
:In!'oreseer, e'ants have taken place in the past t:fO years that should
r.ave some te;!'ing on the :ætter. '!';-..:! character has been set by the
c~llege and ~¿ feels we should follow t:~ough with it. ?he taxpayers
should not ~=sent spending $7500 where l/4 ~llicn dollars is
Lo¡volveè.
Councilman ~:=kes asked t.ow to ;;0 :;.,,~u~ selectJr..; SU'::;1 a co=ittee to
decide upc:-: ::-.e al"chltecture. ;.11'. ~!c¡;;lvey said ~he j'\:¡yor could
appoint tK= :!' three quali~ied pe~ple. ~r. Warner ~ilson said he was
against a =:~ittee. He f~els the :it~ Cc~cil should decide. ~Ir. Don
Frollch was ~~ agreement ~ith ~~. ~ilson. ~e sU6Eested th~ City
Council take .hatever council tl~y fc~l neoessary to arrive at their
decision.
Moved by C==.::lloan Dempster, seccndeè by Council:r.an StC1ŒS, to close
~he publl-= :-..earlng.
AYES:
NCES:
Cour.~il~n Dempster, Fltzgerald, Noel, Stokes, Finch
None
Motion carried, 5-0
JI.oved by Co¡;.r.:ilman Dempster, second~d by Councilman St·okes, that the
architect be requested to submit two concepts ot" a mission type of
deslgn. taki:lè; into consideratlon the Palo Alto Savlr.¡;s and Loan
building, the iiells-Pargo Bank building, and the college arch1te~ture.
TMs motion ..'as amended by Cour.cil:nan St;;>!œs, seconded by Councilman
Dempster, tt..at this not be restrlcteè to one p:lt'tlcular style; there
are many va~1at1ons posslble.
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VorE ON ':HE UtENDMEll1':
AYES: Counc 1lmen De:çster, Hoe 1. Stoke 9, Pinch
!fOBS: Councilman P1tZf;erald
J.mendment oarrled, 4-1
VOTE 011 THE MarIOII:
AYES: Counc1l8eD DeQte:-, Noel, Stolœa, P1Dcb
..: Coœci1aD JP11;zgera14
Motion carried, .\-1
1IIe1;1IIg adjourDed 81; 11:05 P.M.
APPROVED :
/s/ Paul H. Pinch
Mayor
Ar¡o&ST :
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City Clerk
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