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CC 04-06-87 · .. ) J CI'1Y OF aJPERl'DI), srATE C1P CALIFCRaA 00-716 D1t:.erim City Hall: 10430 S. D8AnZa Ba1levard Interim camcil 0--: 10500 N. DIAnza Bculevard QJpert1no, CA 95014 'l'el.........e: (408) 252-450!5 KDI1œS OF '!HE REmIAR CI'1Y CDH:IL m;ra-.uI; HEm œ APRIL 6, 1987 IN '!HE Ik.1mW'1 CDINCIL awœER, 10500 N. IE ANZA BŒJIEVARD, ~.uD, c:::AUPtRrIA '!be meetin;J was called to otder by Mayor Sparks at 6:47 p.m. SAII1Œ 'lO '!HE FlAG roIL CAIL camc. PreS' ...L: Gatto, P1\JD3Y, ~., Kayar SpImcB camc. AtJsent: Jobnsa1 staff PrH ilL: City Manager !)1inlan City Clmk Oarnelius Director of Public Warks viskDviå1 Director of Plannin;J and D8II8l.."...e..t CDran Director of Finance Snyàer Director of Pimœ and Rt..........tia1 Dcwlin;J Assistant to the City M!InIIger Brown A~iat.e Plamer Cl1.IJtþIt:f ':ity Attamey Kilian ~ CERPJDm\L JomTlER9 - HŒSENlM'IŒS ~,-ticn dec1.ari.rq April 11-18, 1987 as n-om.nú.ty D8II8l.........IL Block Grant Week. ORAL CXJHJNICATIŒS STAFF !<UU(1::¡ 1. Oral ...~ts by staff 11_.1_. and ..._i-ten of written .l.q.A4.ls . ) City Manaaer's RaJOll Letter of Ay............'L, hazardaJs mt:e:ri.als - CCJunci1 CXI1timed this to the meetinq of April 20. -1- Hazardous materials agreement continued '''""'="- . . Neighborhood nuiance ord. to be con- sidered Code Enforce- ment .er width cy Legislative Review . MINUl'ES OF '!HE AæIL 6, 1987 CI'1Y c:x:a«::IL )sua-.uc - CX>-716 _ ruisanoe - r~··1J 0611 cmUnance - Ann Ang8r ~ that Council a:rwJder 8'IIICtII8!t of an ardinanca ef...f'-r to the Cit:y ~ r~..I.Jo6'1'8. By OCLa1SUS, Council directed staff to ......-t. back in !cur JID1ths; inwntmy and evaluate the City Wøœ vio1.atiaw exist (lRIIIple ar.) to deteI:mJne if ent.......--d. of existing ardiœnces is ~; include ¡batœ; list in two categaries - clear vio1.atiaw of cm:Unanoes, gray areu (1IIIm3inal; need ~). 2. Rspu., L tJ:ta Pl.anniD;J Director regardin;r cede enf...............-....L mttenI. Ca.Incil received the ..........L and cIirect:ed. staff å!eck en the status of a shed en Rainbcw Drive. '!be City Attomey oo..........'ted the œfel..._ to Ø1ato Drive-up to state a c::rlmina1 ~"'int is bein;J )'L'... e~. 3. Rspu.,L en .L......d. width policy. It was IIICIIed by CCUnc. Pl\JD3Y, seoc:..c1tod by CCUnc. Rogel. and P""-e~ l.1IWÚJII:IUBly (4-0) to adept the following ..L.....ot width policy: 1. Q11 de -- - 30 ft. aJJ:b to aJJ:b. 2. ~ ..L.....ot other than cul de sac - 36 ft. aJJ:b to aJJ:b. 3. """'gtt)" ..In,J collector ..L..éoót - 40 ft. aJJ:b to anti. 4. ~ of 60 ft. right-of-way for all the abav8 ..L.._t widt:bs. Council cIirect:ed. that a pu:_~ regëm:Un¡ enc.........J.....d. or DBintenance be incl'ñ>d in the policy. CXU«:IL ~ 7. I.egisl.ative RIwi.w a:-ittee - It was IIICIIed by CCUnc. Pl\JD3Y, ..........c1tod by CCUnc. Gatto and P"'~rd UlIIUÚJIIaJsly (4-0) to take the follCJWin:l actims regardirq b'I-' ,œed 1egislaticn: <\1.- ....:1 AB 169 (IAFCD bill) and AB 1600 (cœtese), ool1ecticn and use of developer fees; "'W...t.ed SB 144 (Ayala) , furñin] for reIIID\ral of aœaLIed vehicles, SB 272 (Bel.. :n) , a:ntinJat.icn of authority for existin;J taxes -2- MINUl'ES C1P '!HE APRIL 6, 1987 CI'1Y CDJNCIL ioI=n!G - CX>-716 for r&r1y ir...............ted cities umer Prop. 62, and SB 240 (IbJre), J:'8Cl.Ú,rIIIIB far timely payment of S'1pp'--ttal i'L.........t.)' tax 1'8Y8IIJe8 to cities. cœsmr arnmAR (It is recpISted that Items 9 through 16 be acted en shultar--1IO].y unless separats "i ",<,,-ien and/or acticn is œc;p!Sted by CCUnci1, staff ar r.-·..qzs of the p¡blic.) It was IIICIIed by CCUnc. Gatto, seocn:'ed by CCUnc. r.og&rll and . P':'efted Ul1IIJÛmously (4-0) to ~we the 021sent calsmr as subDittecl. 9. Resoluticn No. 7137: "A Resoluticn of the City CCUnci1 of the City of 0Jpertin0 Dec:1.arin;r Its Intenticn to O%der Vacatia1 of a Ft:Irtic:a of FUblic ~'F'''')' Vehicle DIÇIl ft and Ð; ress """""""'"'1t within the City of 0Jpertin0 PUrsuant: to Sect:icn 50430 Et seq. of the GoI.-.......d. eoœ of the state of califamia, Fixin;J T!mø and Place for Hearing and Pravidinq For Notice 'Ihereof; West of n......-, Read At Its TeminJs North of stevens c:rewc Boulevard." 10. Resoluticn No. 7139: "A Resoluticn of the City CCUnci1 of the City of 0Jpertin0 Allowing Certain C!I..i""" and DeIIBncJs Payable in the ADDD1ts and FraIl the rums as HeI:8inafter Desc::r:ibed far Geœ..ctl and Misœ11.aneaJs Expenditures for the Period Errlin;r Karch 27, 1987." 11. Resoluticn No. 7132: "A Resoluticn of the City Council of the City of 0Jpertin0 A¡:prcwing o..,LLaCt 0IIIn}B Order No. 2 for I.arxJsœping Projects, Project 87-105." (0:IIb!naticn of !'cur Areas) 12. Resoluticn No. 7133: "A Resolutien of the City Council of the City of 0Jpertin0 A¡:prcwing o..,L..aCt 0IIIn}B Oì.<1Io.... No. 6 For De Anza Boulevard Wi.deninq, Project 86-20." 13. Resoluticn No. 7134: "A Resoluticn of the City Council of the City of 0Jpertin0 Apprcvin;J O.ut...aCt QWJ¡J8 0>.<110.... No. 6 for Lùœ Vista P8rk, Project 86-114." 14. Resoluticn No. 7135: "A Resoluticn of the City Council of the City of 0Jpertin0 Apprcvin;J o...,L..aCt QWJ¡J8 O%der No. 1 for stevens Cræk Boulevard at Highway 85 Int:ersect:.ic:a Itxtifiœtiat, Project 85-07." -3- Consent Calen- dar approved . . Public hearing closed Res. 7140 adopted . ~ C1P '!HE APRIL 6, 1987 CI'1Y anaL J'IUa'.uIG - 00-716 15. Resoluticn No. 7136: "A Resoluticn of the City CCJunci1 of the City of 0Jpert:in:) Aut:hcrizirq ExIecutia1 of 'A".r._d. Røgamj.n¡ EIIaluaticn of Ncqx:Iint Souroe of Water I'blluticn' With the santa Clara Valley Water District and Cities in santa Clara ChInty." 16. Acceptance of lIIJ icipal iDproveDants: Tract No. 7838, Paul 'l'ai Project en ste11.in;r Jb!Id. (No "'w... Lin;J .vr.-'1I:s requimd). ~ .....,. el.. of the City Ihtnr!i, AYES: Gatto, Pl\JD3Y, ~s, SpImœ H:JES: Naw AæENr: J..JaJaIUII ABSTAIN: Ncna l'lDt; REXIIIm !R:M CDISEm' c:AInOR 17. Naw. RJBLIc HFARDI;S 18. Public hearin;J to CXßIider an amendIue.,L to ocn:iiticn No. 19 of Tentative Map ~ 3-'1H-85 (Seven Sprin;¡s Ranch) regardin;r water service to the pl'1JOSed residential subdivisicn. 'I!1e 1-"-~ty is located easterly of Upland Way, southerly of Rainbow Drive, "-'9St of ste11.in;r Rœd, and north of Pl.~'1; Jb!Id. It was IIICIIed by CCUnc. Pl\JD3Y, .......dt.cl by CCUnc. Gatto and poe-"9d unanimcus1y (4-0) to cloee the p'lh] Ie hearin¡. It was IIICIIed by CCUnc. Pl\JD3Y, ........dt.cl by CCUnc. ~.. and P"- ad unanimcus1y (4-0) to adept Resoluticn No. 7140 autharizin;J ~_.L with Gl."¥Af Group regardin;r water service to Seven Springs and to mœrñ Qn1iticn 19 of 1q:plicat.icn 3-'IM-85 to allœ San Joee or 0Jpert:in:) Water in the Sellen Sprin;¡s deve1_d.. 19. Jl¡:.p-1 of PJ.amin;J l'hmIi""Jim acticn detezminin;r that three oertain)'L' \"""""" of the "lJÙicant (Gl."¥AY GraIp) CXIIStituted material c:barJ; es in the deve1.....-íL plan (~ !H1-83, Sellen Springs Ranch) and nq.ùres p',hHC hearin;J for ~,L to the use pemit. Seven Springs is """'....cù.ly bœnded by Rainbow Drive to the north, stel1irq Rœd to the east, PL~'1; Jb!Id to the Scuth, and F...........,L Older Preserve¡tJplan Way to the "-'9St. (Filed by James JacJœcn) Director of Plannin;J and Devel_,t Cowan reviewed. the applicaticn and Planninq l'hmIi"'$icn ac:t:.icn with Ccuncil. -4- MINUl'ES C1P 'I1!E APRIL 6, 1987 CI'1Y CXXJNCIL MEJ::rIN:; - 00-716 City Attorney Xilian stated that CCJunci1 can decide en the merits taûght if Q:Iunci1 finds it a minor IIIIIBI~Jt~. If not, it JIIJSt go bIIck to the Planrún;r n--i_iat. Jim JacJœon l"'t'.L SaJltin;r the applicant reviewed the original 1"-""'- of the use pemit and major ~ that occurred in 1985 as wll as the cw........L 1"-' 'i"-'"&ed ~. tA~i Eric:Icsa1 t"'t'.Leu.d.ing the tA~i Group I"- S _d.ed project data. Dcnald SerI.1ta, 1249 Weymcuth Drive, said that thœe years ago 8'I8Xythin) ~1"IBd to be settled. He ~ is'Bd the cpinicn that the I"-'~ ~ were major and not minor. '1be1ma !þItsin, 7975 Rain1:x:Iw Drive, stated that residents were assured by tA__ÿ Group that they ~ CCIIply with the cr:ni:l.tiaIS. She stated these mr:xU.ficatiCl1S are major, not minor. If the P1.annin¡ n--i_icn had had heariJçs, residents ~ not be at CCJunci1 this øveninq. 'Ihe "Z" lot line dIm;¡e shculcl go bIc1c to Planrún;r n--i -icn meœ pecple can be notified and give irplt. Mrs. ~ ~ eli sun.œ.l for the PIanning staf~ that these do add up to major~. She stated that all mr:xU.ficaticas shculcl go befar:e the P1.annin¡ n--i -icn at CI1S time and the I"-"'}I'I'.L irplt shculcl be received. She reœlled that the project was to be 50-50 ate- and bio-øtœ:y mix thrcughcut the project and not just alcn¡ Rainbow. She was amenable to a ate- and t:wo-st.œy mix with a better plan. She urged Council to maintain the integrity of the project. Al IBavit l"'t'.L II .Ling Dorothy I!J'åX'n said this was "'n:. ~ to be a unic:pe project. It was to provide hcusinq for seniors and !writ. ·'Ued via the cne-stmy houses. A dIm;¡e of å1arac:ter of the project to all twr::H¡tory b.d1dings wculd. dlmL...u.f the original àIaracter of the project. He urged Council to deny the "W'""'. Jerry p., '-'1, Rainbow Drive, stated he had the ~ eiat there wculd. be a mix of ate- ani bio-øtœ:y ~'I1i1 dings thrc:u:jhcut the project, not just a1 Rainbow. He stated that when the I:Ju1k of a house rises two stories, it is a bo1o-st:ory house. '1his is not a minor àweaìdba::..t.. Ray !þItsin, Rainbow Drive, said the duplex was his major cct~h. He also felt there were too many two-stmy }vw1S9S. He felt that the Gregory Group shculd c:x:me up with a ~uuise with feær ~ 1:W.ldings. Aram Bassenian, architect, said the two--5tozy houses can be designed to be regular two-stozy hooses, ÞJt he felt that -!'- ..... . ; Public hearing . closed Seven Springs , appeal denied . MINI7ŒS C1P '!HE APRIL 6, 1987 CI'1Y CXDICIL l'IUa'.uG - 00-716 they were deeigne.:l in a softer way. He stated that mm ~ exhibits are s1œt:ched and)'L s_,t.ed, ther8 were bcund to be~. Mt'II. Kllrguerite V. R..b:u.Ls, 11545 Uþ1and way, urgød that Cb.mcil get the project dent. In regaxd to the grad1n;r, she stated that it caùd be dent nail with a IIIini1ua of CÙIt. Jim JacJcscn stated there had never been a restricti.cn requirinJ sot of the haDes to be œe-staty. He stated that a notaticn en the exhibit is nJt a cxnll.tia1. Darotby ~ as owner had the power to limit døvelq:ment, but it was nJt dcne. It was IIICIIed by CCUnc. Pl\JD3Y, seocnB1 by CCUnc. Gatto 6nd p"'--ed unanimc:æ1y (4-0) to close the PJblic bearinq. It was IIICIIed by CCUnc. PJ..ur¥; y, seoc.n3ed by CCUnc. Gatto and p"'r-ed with Kayar SpIIzjcB di- ..Un¡ to deny the ~'. 20. Ifearin;r de IXM) mgarding lot JOeIl'jaL: Lots 20, 21 and 22, Bloc:k No. 1 (Am 326-22-31), Jt:r1ta Vista: Mr. and Mt'II. Diego !':>II"'''~r. Director of P1.arIniDJ ani Devel___d. Q:Mm revieWIed the histaty of the lot ....'jaL with CCUncil. City Attamey IW.i.an 1nfœ:med CCUncil that it was a bearinq de IXM) 1I4Uå1 taJœs care of any prior )'L" '\.....,,~ prnòJ_. Ri.å1IIrd sutherland, attamøy "''''t& i ìt1nq Mr. !':>II"'"...., ~ i 3 the cp1nicn that the staff is t.aJciD¡ too n.......... a view of Geneuü Plan language. He stated the CI1"din!mce is atbitruy and unfair and that lot size is ally a18 CX'I1Sideraticn. PUblic policy shculcl be mat is loqical. He asJœd Council to rescin:l the .......'jaL and allcw Mr. !':>II"'''''r to submit a plan. 'Ihe City Attamey reviewed the .......'jaL cm:Unanoe in regard to the ~ for mexgers. Mb..'jaL is mandatœ:y unless a Gelletal Plan å1ange and ordinance å1ange is initiated. Ann Arqer, resi&.nt of Ma1ta vista, spoJœ in IRW ILL of Mr. ~1J11".JIti.... Public hearing It was Dr:::JYed by CCUnc. Gatto, seoc.n3ed by Ocunc. ~.. and eed I""eeed unanimo.Js1y (4-0) to close the PJblic bearinq. -6- MDV1'ES C1P 'JHE AFRIL 6, 1987 CI'1Y OXJNCIL MœrDÇ - 00-716 It was IIICJY8d by CCUnc. Gatto, secx:n!ed by OCUD:. Pl\JD3Y ani 1"'-"" unanimcus1y (4-0) to ed........ thB act.icn to ....'4'" the three lots as provided far in 0Jpertin0 H.micipal Q de sectia1 18.1.1005 with fin::Un;pl as per the City's ardinance re1atin¡ to III8t'ginr;J of lots. It was IIICJY8d by CCUnc. Gatto, ........dtd by OCUD:. ~.. and po-'9C! unanimcus1y (4-0) for staff to look at amerñin;r the General Plan to allow greater variatia1s in 1m:! use ani døIIeJ., , ..- 4. in thB Jb1ta Vista Area. l'1ANNDG APPLICATICJ6 21. Six IIICIJt:b review o~ use pemit Applicaticn 26-U-86 - IU:.a..L R. Lee (It:lbil Oil). p~_t.y located en thB ~ int:ersecticn of Bemardo AvenJ8 and Rc:IIIestead RaId. Direct:ar of P1.ann1n¡ ani DeYel.....-IL Q:Mn stated that the såIcol is satisfied that stu:tent:s are beinq Jœpt cut of the snack shqI. He infODBi Cbmci.1 that the stat.icn is slow with inst.al1at.icn of lant\r -Ioing. 'Ibe J'II.......... of cars varies; hcJIJwver, as of last ccunt there was ally ate OYer the use pemit limit. 'Ibe P1.ann1n¡ n-i-ien had CXZ1ducted an !nvestigatim and felt }II."'P-- was beinq 1II!Ide. sarma 'l\Jbbs, H:iñ1 Kaxiœt.inq Direct:ar, said there had been prà:Il- with J.anc1& "'t "'(['S. 'Ibe dealer has taken a p.......... of steps to CCIIply with cxnli.tia1s. 'Ihere is a night security guard en the p¡:-i -ss. It was IIICJY8d by CCUnc. Gatto, -.....dtd by CCUnc. Rogel'B and 1"'--til unanimcus1y (4-0) to extend the use pemit for a tI..._ _.th period at 1Ihich tJme another review will be CXIId.x:ted. ~ AND srœ APPR:IVAL CXHaTIm: APPLICATICJ6 22. Naw. UNFINISHED HJSINæS 23. Naw. Næ EIJSINESS 24. p.q-t for IlUtharizaticn to initiate eminent .-...i'1 ¡4.' ~i'1gS for the 8O:l,i"itim of certain ..........-,t for water servioe ¡:urpose - HW m:! A"'SOC'iates Devel............t, M::Clellan am stelling. -7- Karger endorsed General Plan ndment 6-U-g6 xtended. review n three months . HV Associates eminent domain hearing . Cupertino City Center Assoc. re BHR in-lieu fee Street name policy adopted Res. 7141 adopted. ~ to Spark ~dation KDVl'ES C1P '!HE APRIL 6, 1987 CI'1Y c:nJNCIL MEZl'DC - 00-716 Directar of Public WarJœ ViskDvich stated that the are CXMIriD¡ tM l1ICIJ8St has been œvised. It WIllI II:J\/8d by CCUnc. Gatto, seoaldtod by CCUnc. Pl\JD3Y ani 1'" Ti:'I UI1IIrÜIDJsly (4-0) to set the hearinq for April 20 with the .......ibit œvised to include ..........It of land. 25. ~-t for aut:harizaticn to set a public hearinq for the ""q,iaitia1 of certain ....- .Ls for staœ dmin pnp HI by 0CIÜIII1at.ia1 þ.' .-.IIi~ - SilV8lc:4. Av8rIIe. Council nIII:MId this item fraD the calendar. 26. Acceptance of letter fraD 0Jpertin0 City O!nter A--il\t.ee authariziDJ witbholdinq of "'OO'JpBnCy pemit until SUå1 tiJDe as Belo.r Harlœt Rate in-1ieu fee (disccunted for Þ. i I.IL value) is received by City of Q p8rtino and agree1n;r to so infom pnà1aserB. City Attamøy Kilian stated that the letter needs to "'!"'clfy the aIIICU1t due upon IY¥"I~ pemit and net actual IY¥"I~. ']his memo shall be re.........dt.d prior to the final 1IIIp. It was IIICIIed by CCUnc. Pl\JD3Y, aeo....cJ..d by CCUnc. Roge..... and pr--Id UIIIIIÛJDcQIly (4-0) to accept the letter as ametd..d by the City Att:omey to ~ify the aIIICU1t is due upon IY¥"I~ pemit, net actuallY¥"l>pemey, ...........andlma to be ............dIoCl prior to r........4atia1 of final map. 27. ~f.en of policy regardin;r the namin:¡ of pnbl ic .t..._ts œsed upon histarica11y significant: imivll'll..'.. It was IIICIIed by CCUnc. Pl\JD3Y, ...........cJ..d by CCUnc. Rogel.. and y--ed unaniJIIcus1y (4-0) to adqJt the ..t..._t MIlle policy enccuragi.~ the use of historically significant: I1IIIIII.S . 28. po... -&t!aIs of the '1'edmical Mvisœ:y QDDittee Rier;JaJ:tlinq ~ of Affœ:dable HcusiDJ Projects fraD the 8eniar Cit.izen,lHarrlio "'i t«l HcusiDJ F\m. ~~-iate Planner Caughey reviewed the "'''¥'.Lt with Council. It was IIIOII8d by CCUnc. Pl\JD3Y, seocoJeoJ by CCUnc. lb;Ie1:.. and p--Id unaniJIIcus1y (4-0) to adqJt JeIo1utia1 No. 7141 ~ $125,000 for the Spark Fcundatien with no ocn:U.tiaw or ~es. Mary Flanagan of the Sparlc Fcundatien offered her thanks to CCUncil as did ~ lb;Ie1:a, parent of a åúld who will be in the facility. -8- .,..,.". . MDÐŒS œ 'DIB APRIL 6, 1987 CI'1Y CDJNc:IL J'IUi.I:.uG - CX>-716 Lir1da Sll!th of nr.-nú.ty BousiD¡ IJ8V8J.cip8r8 and Alita lCWler, arc:bitect, ftIbab ~.., il¢ and ptVject 1œ1~ far n-"'Iity 1Jot-1n¡ DIMI1.c:pIrs, ðdr:h--" 0:u1cil. It _ mr:MId by CCUnc. Plungy, seoctð.cl by Qux:. Gatto and p- 12 UIIIIIIDcusl.y (4-0) to adept Rasolut.icn No. 7142 8II8I'Ød to $315,500 plus $1,500 for CXIIp1.eticn of a structural ...........t.. '!be cxnU.tiaw of the lam are to be secured by a Deed of TJ:ust. '!be reeo1uticn _ ISlDIuded to inc1u!e the _ -.toi..., 4 as Resoluticn No. 7141. 29. RIsolutiat No. 71'18: -A Resoluticn of the City CCUncil of the City of 0Jpertin0 Aut:harlzJn;J Ex8cuticn of ~_d. with CDmty for Q)ordinaticn of Hazardcus Materials Activitiee.- CD1tiruecl to April 20. 30. Rasolut.icn No. 7131: -A Resoluticn of the City CCUncil of the Cit'I of 0Jpertin0 ~ Cl.d........'1: Qmnr:}a œ:der No. 1 for Civic center :n.-~,Ls, Project 87-2003.- It _ mr:MId by CCUnc. Gl!d.t.u, -.....dooc1 by Qux:. Rogers ani po 111 \IMIÙJIICUS1y (4-0) to adept Resolutiat No. 7131. ~....J.Ui' CXHIJNIc::AT.ICHS 31. lDIE œDINAHC:!S 32. Secx:rId ræd1n;J and e......I..-'t. of Otdinance No. 1410: -An 0I:I:liœnce of the City of 0Jpertin0 A:men:ling 0rdiJIance 652 RIIgudiD¡ P..· ........"..... for the :RsIIoc:at.ic:I of ccniitialal Uee Pamits and variances.- It was mr:MId by CCUnc. ~., seoo.ded by Qux:. Gatto and PO--1I11 \IMIÙJIICUS1y to r-s 0rc1inan0e No. 1410 by title cmly and the M!Iyar's reIII:Un;r to cawtitute the secxni reIII:Un;r tbEa:..4. . It was IIICIIed by CCUnc. Gatto, I!o&.A.odooc1 by CCUnc. Rcgers and P---1I11 \IMIÙJIICUS1y (4-0) to enact Otdinance No. 1410. -9- Res. 7142 adopt.!d Res. 7131 adopted Second reading of Ord. 1410 Ord. 1410 adopted · , HIIÐmS œ '1BB APRIL 6, 1987 CI'1Y ~ ~ - 00-716 JI'&~I'....-.u.d:I 33. Rene. on. rt!ng.. ar:!jcumd at 10:50 p... -10-