DRC 08-06-03Design Review Committee
August 6, 2003
Cupertino, CA 95014
(408) 777-3308
AMENDED MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW
COMMITTEE HELD ON AUGUST 6, 2003
ROLL CALL
Committee Members present:
Committee Members absent:
Staff present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
July 16, 2003
Taghi Saadati, Chairperson
Gilbert Wong, Commissioner
None
Peter Gilli, Senior Planner
Colin Jung, Senior Planner
Minutes of the July 16, 2003 Design Review Committee were postponed.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: Letter received from Frank and Fran Lee, 10935
Miramonte Road, stating concerns regarding R-2003-09.
POSTPONEMENTS/REMOVAL FROM CALENDAR:
ORAL COMMUNICATION: None
CONSENT CALENDAR: None
OLD BUSINESS: None
NEW BUSINESS: None
PUBLIC HEARING:
1. Application:
Applicant:
Location:
R-2003-09
Byron Navid/Navico
10950 Stevens Canyon Road, Lot I
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Residential Design Review of a special permit to allow a 4,037 square foot, two-
story residence and exceptions to exceed the 35% ratio of second story to first
story floor area and for second-story wall offsets.
Design Review Committee decision final unless appealed
Staff Presentation: Peter Gilli, Senior Planner, briefly described the project and
explained that it conforms to the R1 ordinance and Design Guidelines. The applicant
has taken steps to reduce the height of the building and to include above average
materials. Any new building in this area will be massive when viewed from Miramonte
Road. The grade difference is significant. A cedar tree will need to be removed and
that will be brought before the Planning Commission at a later date. The conditions of
approval states that any approval action is contingent upon the approval of the tree
removal permit.
The first exception requested is to exceed the 35% ratio of second story to first story
floor area. The applicant is proposing 38%. In the past, the Committee has approved
projects that had a second story greater than 35% of the proposed first story, but not
more than 35% above what could be on the first story with the maximum FAR.
Regarding the second exception for second-story wall offsets, the wall offsets face
Stevens Canyon Road and the interior of the lot. There are no impacts on neighboring
properties and staff recommends approval of the exception. In any case, there is the
potential of setting a precedent. Staff would like the Committee to make specific
findings in support or opposition of the project that will allow the potential precedent
to not be abused in the future. The exception to exceed the second story is to the first
story is more complicated. The Committee needs to determine whether the exception
significantly increases visual impacts. Any two-story home will have a significant
visual impact due to the slope. One of the findings is to be compatible with the existing
neighborhood. It is arguable whether Miramonte is part of the neighborhood due to the
significant drop and that the homes front on Miramonte. If it is determined that
Miramonte is part of the neighborhood, the findings for exception strengthen. The
houses on Miramonte are very large, with second-stories exceeding 35%, often up to
60%. These homes would not be allowed to be built under the current rules.
Gilbert Wong, Commissioner, stated that on the memo, Orrin Mahoney's address was
incorrect. Mr. Wong was concerned about the visual impacts regarding the finding;
"The proposed additions will not result in significant adverse visual impacts as viewed
from adjoining properties". There is a privacy planting, but because it takes 3-5 years to
grow and it's on a plateau, it would be very difficult to meet that finding. Mr. Gilli
stated that if the privacy trees were planted as showed on the plans, then it is expected
that the screening will take an estimated 7-12 years because of the difference in the
slope. From the memo, Mr. Wong asked about the slope percentage. Mr. Gilli stated
that staff did not have figures on the slope, but there is a grading plan in the applicant's
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plan set. The flat section is the rear yard. Mr. Wong asked whether the property could
be legally divided into 3 lots. Mr. Gilli explained that the property has been divided
into 3 lots for a long time and that he did he did not know why the house was still there
and on the property line. Mr. Wong asked why lots 1, 2 and 3 were being presented
separately and not all 3 at one hearing. Mr. Gilli stated that the applicant thought it
would be prudent to present one project at a time because the first application may
affect the other two. The other reason was lot 1 has been ready and the other 2 will be
ready shortly after. Mr. Wong noticed on the elevation that it didn't really show a
daylight plane. Mr. Gilli explained that the elevation was taken at an odd angle and the
daylight planes have all been checked. Mr. Wong asked what the setback was from
Stevens Canyon Road. Mr. Gilli stated that the setback of the garage from the property
line is 12 feet from an interpretation done a few years back that calls the front of the
property the face that actually faces building 3.
Taghi Saadati, Chairperson, asked about the location of the trees and how close to the
house could the trees be to provide the maximum privacy protection for the adjacent
home. Mr. Gilli explained that the closer the trees are to the house, the higher in
elevation they will be. The Committee can make a recommendation to move the trees
closer. Mr. Saadati asked what the square footage would be if the home were a single-
story home. Mr. Gilli explained that the square footage would be the same. However,
footprint would be larger and because of the shape of the lot, the rear setback could be
decreased to 10 feet and would have been closer to the neighboring houses. In the past,
the single-story roofs carried most of the mass of a second-story. Mr. Saadati asked if
there was a possibility of grading the side to take some of the soil away.
Ms. Glush, Designer, stated that they have worked on the project for several years. Ms.
Glush also stated that the lot is very odd shaped and a single story home would not
work with the floor plan and would be closer the neighbors. She feels that style of the
home blends well with the existing neighborhood. Mr. Saadati asked about the location
of the privacy trees and how close they could be to the house. Mr. Wong also asked
about a second row of privacy trees. Ms. Glush explained that that area was the
backyard. Mr. Wong asked if were still possible to build a single-story and go 10 feet
closer to Miramonte. Mr. Gilli explained that it was possible and that the applicant can
do that with the two-story and decrease the first-story rear setback. Mr. Wong asked if
building 2 had sufficient privacy planting. Mr. Gilli stated that building 2 conforms to
the ordinance as well as building 1, whether it is effective is another question. Mr.
Wong asked if the properties were in a residential hillside zone and how far the
residential hillside zoning was. Mr. Gilli stated that the properties were R1 and that
residential hillside zoning was across Stevens Canyon Road.
Orrin Mahoney, 10940 Miramonte Road, stated for the record that a minor lot line
adjustment occurred in 1999. He is concerned about the side setback from Stevens
Canyon Road. Mr. Mahoney stated that he was not opposed to the development of the
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land. However, in the two years of developing the properties, no one had notified the
neighbors. He agreed that the current homes on Mirarnonte Road are large, but when
those homes were built the rules were different and any new development should
conform to the new rules. Mr. Mahoney's main concerns are with the size and position
of the home. He believes that a one-story home would be less visually impacting. He
was less concerned with the extra 32 feet of the second story. The second story would
be visually impacting and privacy planting would not necessarily solve the problem. A
solution could be sliding the houses forward and forget the easement on Stevens
Canyon Road.
Mr. Saadati asked if the homes were moved towards Stevens Canyon Road, it would
have to be a significant move in order to reduce visual impact. Mr. Gilli replied yes and
that the applicant has designed the homes to meet the setback based on where the
property lines are located. There will be a Public Works requirement to have
improvements on Stevens Canyon Road. In this case, it will be more of a rural,
meandering sort of sidewalk that goes around the existing trees. To move the house
forward would require an exception to the side setback and Mr. Gilli felt that it would
not be a significant change. Mr. Gilli also stated that on the sidelines, a one story would
have the same impact as a second story. A one story home would not have to have
privacy protection nor would it require a hearing. Mr. Gilli suggested if the Committee
looked favorably on the project as a whole, the Committee could look at how to take the
impact and lessen it. However, the heights could not be adjusted.
Mr. Wong asked what sort of outreach was done toward the neighborhood. Ms. Glush
stated that she believes the applicant's son was working on that.
Bagher Navid, owner, stated that his son, Byron Navid, has been working on the
projects. Mr. Navid stated he had talked to a few of the neighbors at the time of
purchasing the lots. He wanted to make sure there would be no problems before he
purchased the lots. He stated that Glush was the best designer and has been working
very hard on these plans. Mr. Navid would be very happy to work the neighbors and is
open to suggestions.
Parvis Nambor, Miramonte Road, stated that the setback requirements are very
important and could be easily resolved by getting rid of the easement. Another issue is
a large, running stream that is in the corner where the retaining wall is located. The
retaining wall needs to be very strong and getting rid of the easement will also allow
the room for that. Mr. Nambor was not concerned about the exception for the second
floor. Frank and Fran Lee are neighbors that were unable to attend the meeting and
also share the same concerns.
Ahmed Hassand, 10920 Miramonte Road, had no objections about the placement of the
house or the second story. His main concern was the privacy. If the current trees along
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the fence that borders the properties along Miramonte Road were not cut, the visual
impacts could be minimized. Mr. Saadati reminded Mr. Hassand that the tree removal
application would be brought before the Planning Commission.
Nancy Estelle, Prudential Realty, was representing the sellers at 10950 Miramonte Road.
The house has been on the market for a very long time because potential buyers are
concerned about was would to be built on the properties. Ms. Estelle stated that within
the last 6 weeks since the elevations have gone up, she has had calls but no one was
even willing to look at the property on Miramonte. From a seller's stand point, moving
the house towards the street would lessen the visual impact. The fact that it was also a
two story was a great concern.
Mrs. Mahoney, 10940 Miramonte Road, was mostly concerned about a tunnel effect
with a huge straight up wall. She believes that even with the privacy trees, it was not
appealing. There would be less sunlight and would not be able to see past the large
building. Mrs. Mahoney would prefer a one-story home closer to Steven Canyon Road.
Ms. Glush stated that sunlight that Mrs. Mahoney's property is receiving now would
not be affected, it would remain the same. Also, Ms. Glush agreed with Mr. Gilli in that
two years ago the setbacks have already been established during the public hearings.
Mr. Mahoney stated that if the side setback could be reduced, every foot would help.
Mr. Saadati asked Mr. Gilli about the public hearing two years ago establishing the
setbacks. Mr. Gilli stated that there was an interpretation made on setbacks to
determine where the front and rear setbacks of lot 2 were located. Lots 1 and 3 had
frontage. In the review, Planning Commission and staff agreed that it would be best to
have a 20-foot rear setback for lot 2 next to the rear setbacks on Miramonte Road and
not a 5-foot setback. Mr. Wong asked about when the lot line adjustment took place.
Mr. Gilli stated that he thought it was in 1999, however, the Public Works Department
handles those requests. Mr. Wong also requested more information about the
easements and whether there is an easement to expand the road. Mr. Gilli stated that it
depends on the property that was being looked at by Canyon Heights. If a large use
were brought to that property, street improvements would have to be made. Even if
the house were moved, the privacy concern would be lessened, but would not be solved
for lot 2.
Mr. Gilli added that the windows along building one are both in the bathroom and the
applicant could explore whether an ingress window would be needed. If they don't,
the windows could be made inoperable with obscured glass. One of the windows is
above a spa and if that were the case, the need for some of the trees would be
eliminated. Mr. Gilli recommends the trees in any case to help block some of the mass.
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Mr. Wong stated that he was not concerned about the two exceptions and he agrees
with staff that it does not impact the neighborhood and is consistent with the style. Mr.
Wong understands the time spent working on the project and talking to the community.
His biggest concern was the visual impacts as viewed from adjoining properties. He
does feel that the privacy planting may not be adequate and would like to postpone the
item and have the applicant come up with another idea for privacy planting and work
with the neighbors. Even if the home were moved towards Stevens Canyon Road, there
would still be concerns. Mr. Wong would prefer a one-story home, however he could
go either way and recommends that the applicant work with the current neighborhood.
Mr. Saadati agreed with Mr. Wong regarding the exceptions. He suggested starting the
privacy planting early, prior to the construction of the house. However, he would be
willing to look at other options. To change an easement, the Planning Commission
would have to review the project and could be appealed to the City Council. The land
is very difficult to develop. Mr. Saadati would also like to continue the item and have
the applicant work with the neighbors to resolve the issues.
Mr. Navid would like to have some guidelines on what needs to be done and have the
item continued. Mr. Wong gave the applicant some guidelines. He asked the applicant
to look into a neighborhood meeting or talk to neighbors individually and to include all
the buildings. Mr. Gilli asked Mr. Navid about how much time he would need for the
continuance. Mr. Navid asked for 4 weeks.
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
VOTE:
Commissioner Wong moved to continue R-2003-09 for one month.
Chairperson Saadati.
None
None
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Application:
Applicant:
Location:
R-2003-11
Bob Hoxsie
10545 Mira Vista Drive
Design Review for an exception to allow a three-foot setback for an existing
garage proposed to be attached to an existing house.
Design Review Committee decision final unless appealed
Staff Presentation: Colin Jung, Senior Planner, briefly described the project. In
reviewing the project, the structure could not be built in the front of the residence
because of a potential future dedication of right of way that would narrow the front
property to 20 feet that is needed for the front setback. It also could not be placed on
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the south side of the residence because that is where the driveway is located. On the
north side of the residence, where it could go, is a 52' diameter specimen size Coastal
Redwood, which the applicants would like to protect. Staff recognizes the unique
circumstances and recommends approval and also notes a 20-foot easement on the side
of the garage where there is a 3-foot setback. The easement is for the flag lot to the rear
of the property and also note that there are few visibility impacts and privacy impacts
due to the addition and the closeness of the setback itself. Staff is also requiring that the
tree be considered a heritage tree and record an appropriate covenant on the property.
In addition, staff recommends that the RI ordinance provision that allows a one-time
extension of a building line not apply to the garage due to the 3-foot setback. Staff
recommends approval of the exception.
Mr. Saadati asked how long the driveway has been next to the driveway.
Bob Hoxsie, applicant, replied about 10 years. Mr. Saadati asked how old the garage
was and why it has a 3-foot setback. Mr. Jung stated that the garage is allowed a 3-foot
setback if it is not too tall because it is an accessory structure. Mr. Hoxsie, stated that he
has talked to his neighbors and he had signatures of their support. He wasn't clear on
what was needed for a covenant. Mr. Jung explained that the tree would be protected
and future homeowners would need approval to remove it. A recorded document
would be created. Mr. Hoxsie had no problem with the covenant. Mr. Hoxsie stated
that he would be building a shed to attach to the garage for storage. Mr. Jung stated
that it would need a 10-foot side setback.
Mr. Wong asked for more clarification regarding the extension of existing building
lines. Mr. Jung explained the history of the ordinance and how it relates to Mr. Hoxsie's
property. Mr. Wong stated that he supports the project. Mr. Saadati also supports the
project and has no objections.
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
VOTE:
Commissioner Wong moved to approve R-2003-11.
Chairperson Saadati.
None
None
2-0
Respectfully submitted:
Kiersa Witt
Administrative Clerk
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