16. Kamdar appeal (went to CC via email on Mon)
Item No. 16 regarding the Jay Kamdar Revocable Encroachment Permit appeal:
The applicant withdrew his request for a hearing after the agenda had already been
printed. If you wish to see a copy of the staff report please notify the clerk's office for a
copy.
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CITY OF
CUPEI\TINO
Parks and Recreation Department
CITY COUNCIL
STAFF REPORT
Agenda Item Number
llo May 1, 2007
ISSUE:
Consider adopting a resolution upholding the City Manager's designated hearing
Officer's decision to deny an appeal by Jay Kamdar regarding the issuance of a
Revocable Encroachment Permit by the Director of Public Works for the installation of
a fence adjacent tot 10060 Carmen Road.
BACKGROUND:
Mr. Krishna Kidambi, the owner of a new residence constructed at 10060 Carmen
Road, contacted staff in late 2006 to ask if the City would allow him to build a fence
where the street pavement ends on Carmen Road, up slope of Stevens Creek Boulevard
(see attached map and photos). The grade from the end of Carmen Road to Stevens
Creek Boulevard is approximately 35%; Mr. Kidambi and Mr. Kumaraswamy, his
neighbor directly across the street, expressed concern that children playing ball or riding
bikes at the end ofthe street might chase down slope and possibly out to Stevens Creek
Boulevard.
A standard City guardrail to prevent traffic from going over the slope down to Stevens
Creek, barricaded the end of Carmen Road. The guardrail also protected some above
and belowground utility installations. The guardrail was insufficient to keep balls from
escaping from children playing in the street.
In response to Mr. Kidambi's request, staff advised that he should apply for an
encroachment permit. The right-of-way past the Kidambi property line is a "paper
street", i.e., one with no improvements or purpose for public transit. However, there are
utilities present and input/concurrence was needed from the utility companies before a
permit could be issued. Mr. Kumaraswamy, Mr. Kidambi's neighbor directly across the
street (who also abuts the paper street) was in support ofthe fencing plan. Mr. Kidambi
was advised that access to the existing utility pedestal would need to be preserved and
that reflective signing would need to be applied to the fence. Unfortunately, prior to
fmalizing the details of the encroachment permit, Mr. Kidambi's contractor completed
the installation ofthe fence across the end of Carmen Road.
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When questioned by staff about the installation, Mr. Kidambi confirmed he understood
that he did not have permission to proceed, but said that he had gone ahead with the
work because he wanted to ''beat the coming rain". He was informed that this
installation had not been approved and that he would still be subject to a review under
an encroachment permit application. He applied for the permit and paid the appropriate
fee. The Director of Public Works approved the permit on January 16, 2007.
On January 27, 2007, in accordance with Cupertino Municipal Code (CMC) Section
1.16, Mr. Kamdar filed an appeal to the Director of Public Works' decision to approve
the encroachment permit for 10060 Carmen Road. The Director of Public Works'
decision was upheld after an appeal hearing conducted on March 7,2007. The Hearing
Officer's findings are contained in the attached Notice of Determination (NOD) dated
March 15, 2007. Also attached are the minutes of the hearing.
The Hearing Officer found that the Public Works Director acted properly and in full
compliance with the Cupertino Municipal Code. The point-by-point discussion of issues
raised in the Kamdar appeal is contained within the NOD, and summarized here for
Council's convenience.
"1. It seems that the fence is built illegally. City has never notified me of such plans.
Even the planning department's plans for the new house never shown any plans to
build such fence. "
The encroachment permit was issued after considering the existing conditions of the
area in question and the impact of the fence on the immediate area as well as the street
system and rights-of-way within it. In so doing, the Director of Public Works found that
the fence, as an encroachment, does not pose a problem or any kind of hazard since
there was a permanent barrier there in the first place to guard against the 35% slope
down to Stevens Creek Boulevard. The fence has the appropriate reflective signing and
preserves access to the utility box.
The encroachment permit was issued after the fact, but there is nothing illegal or
precedent setting about the fence.
"2. Loss of openness and natural green in my neighborhood. There is a beautiful Oak
tree that one can see at full length. Now it is half covered and possibly affecting the
health of the tree; AND
3. Thefence looks ugly. Over 6' in height and violation of4'fence limit in front of the
house. It is an eye sore. "
These complaints are subjective. However, there is no danger to the oak tree from the
fence footings as the tree is down slope. The fence is less than six feet high and is not in
violation of any code since it is, for all intents and purposes a side yard fence and not a
front yard fence. The fence is not solid for its entire height, but rather, is topped by an
open lattice weave.
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With respect to the notion that the fence is somehow out of character with the existing
neighborhood, this neighborhood is zoned for low density residential. The fence is a
standard six-foot high side yard fence detail commonly in use throughout the city and it
fully complies with all building code requirements for residential fences. As it is
installed at the end ofthe street, there are no site distance issues to address.
"4. The free access from Stevens Creek for hikers and walkers is now gone. "
The new fence has an access opening for the utility cabinet; it does not completely
block pedestrian and bicycle access to Stevens Creek. However, as noted above, there is
a 35% slope at a drop of 14 feet to Stevens Creek Boulevard. This is not, by any means,
a safe or desirable access to the street below. Hoo Hoo Way is a far better access to
Stevens Creek Boulevard and is less than 100 feet farther from the cul-de-sac than a
Carmen Way connection.
Children typically play in this dead-end street, so the fence is an improvement to the
barrier in that it prevents soccer balls or other children's playthings from going down
the slope to Stevens Creek. Both property owners immediately adjacent to the paper
street have children and want the newly constructed fence to remain.
"5. There is no public benefit. If the City paid for this fence then it is waste of my tax
money. "
The City did not pay for the fence. Mr. Kadambi and Mr. Kumaraswamy, his neighbor
across the street, cooperated to install the fence in accordance with the City's
requirements at their own expense.
In his March 23, 2007 email to the City Manager and City Council (also attached), Mr.
Kamdar asked the Council to review the Hearing Officer's decision, focusing on the
aesthetics of the fence. Mr. Kamdar suggests that his concerns could be addressed by
lowering the fence to three feet. When this was proposed in the appeal hearing, the
neighbors living adjacent to the fence (who paid for its installation) objected to the
proposal saying that three feet would not keep bouncing balls from going down slope to
Stevens Creek Boulevard.
DISCUSSION:
The fence in question, built as part ofthe Kidambi home and paid for by the Kidambi's
and the Kumarasway's, is a typical side yard fence. Their plan was to block the
unsightly view of guardrail and utility boxes while solving what they perceived as a
safety problem. They took this initiative, complied with the city permitting
requirements (albeit retroactively) and jointly paid for the installation. Two our
knowledge only the Kamdar's have objected to the installation.
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If the Council determines the fence should be removed, the work would be done at city
expense. The Kidambi's and Kumarasway's would not be responsible for removing the
installation now permitted. Staff could not find a compelling reason to commit public
money to undoing a solution provided by residents that adhered to the permitting
process.
RECOMMENDATION:
Adopt the resolution upholding the City Manager's designated hearing Officer's
decision to deny an appeal by Jay Kamdar regarding the issuance of a Revocable
Encroachment Permit by the Director of Public Works for the installation of a fence
adjacent tot 10060 Carmen Road.
Any interested person, including the applicant, prior to seeking judicial review of the
City Council's decision in this matter, must first file a petition of reconsideration with
the City Clerk within ten days after the Council's decision and any petition so filed must
comply with Municipal Ordinance Code 2.08.096
Respectfully submitted:
Approved for submission to City Council:
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Therese Ambrosi Smith, Director
Parks and Recreation Department
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David W. Knapp, City Manager
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DRAFT
RESOLUTION NO. 07-078
A RESOLUTION OF THE CUPERTINO CITY COUNCIL UPHOLDING THE
CITY MANAGER'S DESIGNATED HEARING OFFICER'S DECISION TO
DENY AN APPEAL BY JAY KAMDAR REGARDING THE ISSUANCE OF A
REVOCABLE ENCROACHMENT PERMIT BY THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC
WORKS FOR THE INST ALLA TION OF A FENCE ADJACENT TO 10060
CARMEN ROAD
Whereas, on January 16, 2007, The Director of Public Works issued a revocable
encroachment permit for a fence adjacent to 10060 Carmen Road, and
Whereas, on January 27,2007, in accordance with Cupertino Municipal Code (CMC)
Section 1.16, Mr. Kamdar filed an appeal with the City Manager of the Director of
Public Works' decision to approve the encroachment permit for 10060 Carmen Road,
and
Whereas, an appeal hearing was held by the City Manager's designated Hearing Officer
on March 7,2007 at 2:00 PM, and
Whereas, the Hearing Officer rendered a decision denying Mr. Kamdar's appeal on
March 15,2007, and
Whereas, in accordance with CMC Section 1.16, Mr. Kamdar has appealed the Hearing
Officer's decision to the City Council, and
Whereas, the City Council, in considering the evidence at a regularly scheduled meeting
on May 1,2007, considered the testimony presented and found the Public Works
Director acted appropriately in issuing the revocable encroachment permit,
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED AS FOLLOWS:
The Cupertino City Council upholds the City Manager's designated Hearing Officer's
Decision to deny an appeal by Jay Kamdar regarding the issuance of a revocable
encroachment permit by the Director of public Works for the installation of a fence
adjacent to 10060 Carmen Road.
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Resolution No. 07-078
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PASSED AND ADOPTED at a regular meeting of the City Council of the City of
Cupertino this 1 st day of May 2007, by the following vote:
Vote Members of the City Council
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
ATTEST
APPROVED:
City Clerk
Mayor, City of Cupertino
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Attachments:
Pictures relating to fence adjacent to 10060 Carmen Road in Cupertino California,
95014.
Administrative Hearing Minutes dated Wednesday, March 7, 2007
E-mail message from Mr Jay Kamdar to the City Clerk requesting appeal to the
City Council
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Street view of the fence.
View of the fence from
Kidamby driveway. Note
Guard-rail directly behind
fence.
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View of utility boxes and
guard-rail behind fence.
View of the fence from
Stevens Creek
Boulevard.
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CITY OF
CUPEIQ"INO
Administrative Hearing Minutes
Wednesday, March 7, 2007
2:00 p.m.
Conference Room A, City Hall
10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, CA 95014
Subiect:
An administrative hearing to appeal the approval of Encroachment Permit No. 4521 for
a residential fence adjacent to 10060 Carmen Road in Cupertino, California, 95014.
Attendance
Present: Hearing Officer Therese Ambrosi Smith, Parks and Recreation Director
Recording Secretary, Karen B. Guerin, Administrative Assistant
Ralph Qualls, Public Works Director
Jay and Hema Kamdar, Appellants
Krishna Kidambi, Applicant
Subra Kumaraswamy, Neighbor representing the Applicant
Hearine
Recording Secretary Karen B. Guerin administered the oath to the following witnesses:
Jay and Hema Kamdar, Appellants
Krishna Kidamb~ Applicant
Subra Kumaraswamy, Neighbor representing the Applicant
Therese Smith introduced herself as the Hearing Officer appointed by City Manager
David Knapp to decide the case. Hearing Officer Smith announced the date as March 7,
2007, the time as 2:06 p.m., and the location ofthe hearing as Conference Room A.
Hearing Officer Smith informed the parties that each point of view would have ten
minutes to represent their case and that she would render a decision in writing within 20
days of the hearing. Furthermore, she stated that ifher decision is unacceptable to either
party, they have the right to appeal it to the City Council.
Hearing Officer Smith asked the parties to state their name(s) for the record before
speaking.
Jay Kamdar. Appellant
Jay Kamdar stated his name for the record and that he was a resident at 10080 Carmen
Road in Cupertino. Mr. Kamdar stated that he had filed the appeal because the fence
was a bothersome. He said that the fence had taken away the natural beauty that they
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had enjoyed for many years. He stated that he has been a Cupertino Resident for a long
time and that he has always enjoyed the beauty and openness of his neighborhood. He
said that the fence blocked the openness and that there was no need for the fence to be
as high as it was. Mr. Kamdar also stated that he wondered how the city could go about
approving the fence without the input of the other residents. He said that he was
surprised that the city didn't reach out for their opinion before doing what it had done.
He stated that he was requesting that the fence be removed so that the openness can be
restored. He also stated that there was a beautiful oak tree behind the fence and that a
lot of people enjoyed the road for easy access. Mr. Kamdar also stated that his kids
used to take the route to go to Elementary School.
Hema Kamdar. Appellant
Hema Kamdar stated that the previous steel fence, built by the city, was adequate and
had been in place for many years. She also mentioned that her children and other
neighborhood children had been safe and there had not been any danger. She stated
that alot of people walk and enjoy the beauty in the area and that she didn't see any
reason for the fence to be that high.
Mr. and Mrs. Kamdar requested that the fence be removed or it be done tastefully so
that it enhanced the area.
Hearing Officer Smith asked Mr. Kamdar if it was his opinion that the fence could be
lowered. Mr. Kamdar responded in the affirmative and indicated that the wall could be
done differently but reiterated that the fence had to be lowered.
Krishna Kidambi. Applicant
Kris Kidambi stated his name for the record and that he was a resident at 10060 Carmen
Road in Cupertino. He also mentioned that his property abutted the fence.
Hearing Officer Smith interjected and asked the applicant where he lived in relation to
the appellant. Mr. Kidambi stated that they lived right next door to each other.
Mr. Kidambi mentioned that he would like to refute aspects of an email sent by the
appellant, which outlined certain points. He addressed the issue of safety and stated that
on two occasions, while playing bal~ kids have chased it down to Stevens Creek. He
also mentioned that while his kids were playing basketbal~ the ball went down the hill.
He stated that this was also a safety issue for those on Stevens Creek. Mr. Kidambi
stated that he had talked with Assistant Director Glenn Goepfert, over a two-month
period, in regards to the safety concern. He said that he and his neighbor proceeded to
have the fence installed before the rainy season. He stated that he was subsequently
asked to obtain an encroachment permit and did so. In regards to the issue of beauty,
Mr. Kidambi stated that it was such an eyesore before and that the property upgrade
brought added value to the neighborhood. In regards to the issue of the view being
blocked, Mr. Kidambi stated that he didn't know of any alternative to prevent a ball
from going down the hill. He also indicated that they stayed within the legal limit of 6
feet for the fence. Mr. Kidambi stated that if the appellant didn't deem the area a safety
hazard, then he would like that statement in writing and the appellant responsible if an
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accident occurred. He also stated that if there was an issue of beautification, and the
area was within the city right of way, then the city should be responsible for
maintaining it.
Subra Kumaraswamy. Neighbor representing the Applicant
Subra Kumaraswamy stated his name for the record and that he was a resident at 10081
Carmen Road in Cupertino. Mr. Kumaraswamy talked about his kids playing in the
area and how their ball would go over the side sometimes. He also mentioned that the
cars on Stevens Creek have to come to a halt at times, which could cause an accident.
He said that it puts the people in the street and neighborhood children in danger if a ball
goes over the side. He also stated that there was a beaten down guardrail in place
previously and that it was an eyesore. He stated that they thought they were doing a
favor to the neighborhood and that they had good intentions.
Hearing Officer Smith asked the neighbor if he had paid for installation of the fence.
Mr. Kumaraswamy responded that they both (the applicant and himself) had paid for
the fence.
At this time, Mr. Kidambi commented on the statement that there was a usable pathway
at that location, and mentioned that the slope was 35% and not feasible as a pathway.
He also stated that the trail access point at Hoo Hoo Court was a much better solution.
Ralph Qualls. Public Works Director
Public Works Director Ralph Qualls addressed the points made by Mr. Kamdar. In
regards to the fence being built illegally, Mr. Qualls stated that the permit was issued
after the city looked at all the existing conditions. Mr. Qualls also confirmed that Mr.
Kidambi did have dialogue with the city and that the city understood what Mr.
Kidambi was trying to do. Mr. Qualls mentioned that although it was unusual
practice to issue the permit after the fact, it didn't present a problem because if so, the
city wouldn't have issued the encroachment permit and the fence would have to be
removed. He also stated that the fence had the appropriate signage and that it
preserved access to the utility box. Mr. Qualls stated that the original barrier was in
place because of the grade of the slope. In regards to the permit being issued after
the fact, Mr. Qualls stated that there was nothing illegal or precedent setting about
this fact. He also addressed the concern of the loss of openness, natural green space,
the health of the oak tree, the height of the fence, and the fence being out of
character for the neighborhood. Mr. Qualls stated that there was no danger to the
oak tree, and that the fence was less than 6 feet high and not in violation of any code,
and as far as aesthetics, the fence was no more or less attractive than the barrier that
had been there before. Mr. Qualls also stated that the neighborhood was zoned for
low density residential and that the fence was a standard 6-foot high detail, which
was commonly used in the city and that it fully complies with all the code
requirements. Mr. Qualls also addressed the issue of free access for the hikers and
walkers to Stevens Creek. He stated that he would not recommend that anyone use
this access because it was not safe, especially with the traffic on Stevens Creek going
by at higher speeds. Mr. Qualls also stated that the access point at Hoo Hoo Court,
which was less than 100 feet away, was a safer slope access. Lastly, Mr. Qualls
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addressed the issue that there was no public benefit to the fence and that it was a
waste of tax money. He confirmed that the city did not pay for the fence. Mr. Qualls
concluded that in terms of the law, the facts, and the history, he found that the appeal
to be without merit.
Therese Ambrosi Smith. Hearing Officer
Hearing Officer Smith asked if the request for the encroachment permit raised any red
flags in the Public Works Department. Mr. Qualls responded that there was discussion
with the applicant about putting the fence in and the department indicated that an
encroachment permit would be needed. Mr. Qualls reiterated that the applicant went
ahead and installed the fence prior to receiving a permit. He also stated that if the
installation of the fence posed a problem, the city would have required that the fence be
removed.
Hearing Officer Smith asked if there was anything about the cul-de-sac that raised a red
flag. Mr. Qualls indicated, "No".
Hearing Officer Smith inquired about access to the utility box and asked if there was
still access down the slope. Mr. Qualls responded that there was still access down the
slope.
Hearing Officer Smith inquired about the height of the lattice on top of the fence and
confirmed that it was the applicants' idea to install the lattice in order to break up the
mass ofthe fence. Mr. Qualls responded that the lattice was about a foot high. Hearing
Officer Smith summed up that the fence was about 5 feet of solid mass with passage to
get around it.
Hearing Officer Smith also asked if the oak tree was down slope from the fence. Mr.
Qualls responded in the affirmative. She also inquired if the installation of the fence
would have been above the root. Mr. Qualls confirmed that the only penetration of the
fence would have been above the root and that there was no danger to the tree. Hearing
Officer Smith also asked how deep the footings of the fence were. Mr. Kidambi
responded that they were about 18 inches.
Hearing Officer Smith concluded that she had all the information that she needed and
would render a determination in writing within a couple weeks.
Additional Comments
Mr. Kamdar added to his testimony and stated that -the safety issue was an after
thought because the neighbors bought their homes with the knowledge that the street
was open. He also mentioned that there had never been a safety problem and that a
ball could still go over a 6-foot fence. Mr. Kamdar asked that the fence be lowered to
2-3 feet and that the openness be restored.
Hearing Officer Smith stated that she would go out and take a look at the site and render
her decision in writing.
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Mr. Qualls also informed the group that if the city decided to require modification of the
fence, the city would bear the costs because the applicant complied with the
requirements.
Mr. Kidambi stated that they had two concerns that they wanted addressed - safety
and beauty.
Mr. Kamdar also indicated that he felt that the city should have asked the opinion of
the neighbors.
In response, Mr. Qualls stated that there was no requirement for notification and that the
matter concerned following the law.
Mrs. Kamdar stated that the city must have spent a lot on the landscaping for the area
and now the wall blocked it off. She also mentioned that kids are still able to go after
a ball and that it's not that safe.
Hearing Officer Smith thanked everyone for attending.
Adjournment
The hearing was adjourned at 3:02 p.m.
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Grace Schmidt
From: David Knapp
Sent: Friday, March 23,20072:00 PM
To: City Clerk
Cc: 'jay@magsil.com'; City Council
Subject: FW: Appeal to City's decision about the fence adjacent to 10060 Carmen Road
Pis schedule and notify Mr. Kamdar.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Kamdar [mailto:jay@magsil.com]
Sent: FridaYI March 231 2007 1:03 PM
To: David Knapp
Cc: City Council
Subject: Appeal to City's decision about the fence adjacent to 10060 Carmen Road
Dear Mr. Knapp and Respected City Council,
I have received a notice from the City denying my appeal regarding the installation of a fence at the end of Carmen Road. I feel
that a more serious considerations need to be given to my request and so I would like to appeal to the City Council. Due to
excessive business travel I have planned through April '2007 I would like to request the hearing date to be scheduled in the month
of May.
My request to the City was not for a removal of the fence. My request is to find a solution to maintaining openness and green view
of the Carmen Road Street. During the hearing I had proposed a solution that will address the openness of the Carmen Road and
at the same time addressing the safety concerns of two neighbors who have built the fence. I requested that the fence height be
brought down from 6' to 3'. In the City's letter dated March 15, 2007 the hearing officer has failed to acknowledge and address my
proposed solution and it seems that the letter goes into long details justifying City's decision purely from a legal point of view.
I condone City's decision process in this matter. As I have pointed out, City has let my two neighbors build a fence without seeking
inputs from any other neighbors and their feelings_ I find it hard to believe that the City is OK with anyone building the fence first
on the City property and then issuing the permit later. Shouldn't City have asked the simple question that how come all these
years the City let Carmen Road residents live with a simple guard rail and an "end of the street sign"? It would be prudent for the
city to think that others must have raised their children on Carmen Road and how come they never complained about the safety
and asked the City to build a bigger fence?? It is because people like I have enjoyed the openness and the view from the Carmen
Road. I do not know of any safety issues during past many years that I have lived on the Carmen Road. The City should have
reached out to Carmen Road residents at large and seek their input prior to issuing such permit. I want to request to the City
Council to examine City's decision process and hopefully reconsider my sincere request to bring the fence height down from 6" to
3' that would ensure concerns of all parties - the safety and the openness.
I would greatly appreciate if you could please confirm the request for the appeal and advice me if you need me to write my
arguments to the City Council now or wait till the hearing. Thank You..
- Jay Kamdar
408-497 -1177
From: David Knapp [mailto:DaveK@cupertino.org]
Sent: MondaYI February 05, 2007 12:27 PM
To: Jay Kamdar
Cc: City Council
Subject: RE: 10080 Carmen Road
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3/26/2007