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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC 09-22-2026 Youtube and Zoom TranscriptionWEBVTT 1 00:00:19.230 --> 00:00:20.140 Community Hall: Okay. 2 00:00:20.350 --> 00:00:26.379 Community Hall: Hello, and welcome to the Planning Commission Meeting for September 22nd, 2026. Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. 3 00:00:30.350 --> 00:00:42.290 Community Hall: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 4 00:00:44.870 --> 00:00:48.979 Community Hall: Thank you, and then City Clerk, may we please have the roll call? 5 00:00:50.470 --> 00:00:58.790 Community Hall: Commissioner Fung? Present. Commissioner Linskog? Here. Commissioner Rao? Present. Vice Chair Scharf? Here. Chair Casolchron? Here. 6 00:01:00.120 --> 00:01:09.730 Community Hall: Wonderful. So we will now move on to the approval of the minutes, and, Agenda Item 1 is approving the September 8th, 2026 Planning Commission minutes. So moved. Second. 7 00:01:11.050 --> 00:01:13.689 Community Hall: Excellent. And may we please have the vote? 8 00:01:25.020 --> 00:01:34.710 Community Hall: The motion carries unanimously. All right, done in record time, and we will move on to oral communications. Do we have any public commenters wishing to speak? 9 00:01:36.470 --> 00:01:38.450 Community Hall: We have no speakers, Chair. 10 00:01:38.660 --> 00:01:52.520 Community Hall: All right, then we will move straight ahead to, agenda item 2, which is to consider the General Plan Amendment to adopt amendments to the health and safety element. Do we have a staff report? Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 11 00:01:54.560 --> 00:02:19.479 Community Hall: Good evening, Client Commission. Thank you for the meeting that we're going to be having on this item tonight. Sorry, I lost my train of thought for a second there. We actually have two consultants online that are going to help us present this item. They have been responsible for putting the majority of the document together. Staff has reviewed it, and I would like to state that in the staff report, we had said that this 12 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:32.700 Community Hall: today, the item would have been presented to the Board of Forestry, and that we were going to give a verbal update about that, and our consultant will provide that, but I did want to say that we received great kudos for the document that was presented to them. 13 00:02:32.700 --> 00:02:43.519 Community Hall: So, without further ado, I do want to, introduce Jacqueline Protsman Rohr and Tammy Seale, who are online on behalf of PlaceWorks, who will be presenting this item tonight. Thank you. 14 00:02:49.060 --> 00:02:53.040 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Thanks, Piu. I will go ahead and share my screen. 15 00:03:05.750 --> 00:03:10.890 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And I just want to confirm before getting started that my screen is being shared. 16 00:03:11.860 --> 00:03:12.480 Community Hall: Yes. 17 00:03:13.130 --> 00:03:13.940 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Thank you. 18 00:03:14.130 --> 00:03:30.140 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: So, good evening, Planning Commissioners. As Piu said, my name is Jacqueline Protsman Rohr with PlaceWorks, and I'm the project manager on the consultant team for the Health and Safety Element Update, and I'm joined this evening by Tammy Seale, who is the principal in Charge on the consultant team. 19 00:03:31.950 --> 00:03:48.350 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: So this presentation will provide an overview of the health and safety element, summarize the proposed changes to the element as part of this update, go over state agency Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI review, tribal consultation, and environmental review, and then provide staff's recommended action for the Planning Commission. 20 00:03:51.390 --> 00:03:53.560 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: So why update the safety element? 21 00:03:53.680 --> 00:04:10.009 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: A safety element is one of the mandatory elements of a general plan, focusing on natural and human- caused hazards within and surrounding Cupertino, as well as emergency response and preparedness. The current element was adopted in 2014 during the Comprehensive General Plan update. 22 00:04:10.420 --> 00:04:20.060 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: State law does require a safety element to be updated when a housing element or a local hazard mitigation plan are updated to ensure compliance with current state law. 23 00:04:20.220 --> 00:04:33.349 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: So both the housing element and the local hazard mitigation plan, which is part of the Santa Clara County Multi-Jurisdictional Hazard Mitigation Plan, were updated in 2024, prompting the update to this health and safety element. 24 00:04:34.070 --> 00:04:53.340 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: So this update addresses new statutory requirements for climate change resilience, emergency evacuation, and extreme heat, as well as updating the element and background documents with best available science and mapping for the existing topics, such as fire safety, geologic and seismic hazards, and flooding. 25 00:04:54.100 --> 00:05:08.059 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: The proposed health and safety element also incorporates the Santa Clara County Multi-Jurisdictional Hazard Mitigation Plan by reference, which can improve eligibility for grant funding to implement resiliency and hazard mitigation projects. 26 00:05:11.660 --> 00:05:31.479 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: So the health and safety element is a high-level, broad document that is just one part of Cupertino's overall approach to protecting the community against hazards. The building code has very detailed, specific requirements for development activities, including the fire code and the new Wildland Urban Interface Code. 27 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 00:05:31.690 --> 00:05:37.559 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And the city adopts and implements the state's building code, and has the option to go beyond the state's code 28 00:05:37.770 --> 00:05:45.079 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Or be more restrictive, but it cannot adopt less stringent requirements or loosen building code requirements through the general plan. 29 00:05:45.330 --> 00:05:55.599 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: So the safety element provides policy direction to guide the review of development and resource use, and can address gaps or establish more stringent requirements than the building code. 30 00:05:56.030 --> 00:06:07.189 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: The health and safety element must be consistent with the building code, the municipal code and zoning code, other elements of the general plan, and other applicable county, regional, and state requirements. 31 00:06:10.250 --> 00:06:18.879 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: So this slide provides an overview of the engagement, consultation, state agency… and state agency review that have occurred throughout the project. 32 00:06:19.030 --> 00:06:31.760 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: In 2025, the element was presented to you all, the Planning Commission, as well as the Public Safety Commission, which informed the development of policies and strategies in the element itself. 33 00:06:32.190 --> 00:06:44.290 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: The project team then prepared the draft health and safety element from Summer 2025 to Spring 2026, which went out for public review from February 11th to May 8th of this year. 34 00:06:45.250 --> 00:06:49.200 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: During that time, we held a study session with the Planning Commission on 35 00:06:49.530 --> 00:06:55.349 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: March 9th, followed by two study sessions with City Council on May 19th and July 7th. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 36 00:06:55.980 --> 00:07:03.320 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: The project team revised the health and safety element based on comments received from commissioners, council members, and community members. 37 00:07:03.590 --> 00:07:09.969 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: The revised health and safety element was then submitted for review by CAL FIRE on July 13th. 38 00:07:10.110 --> 00:07:16.159 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: and reviewed by Cal OES and the California Geological Survey on July 14th. 39 00:07:16.490 --> 00:07:20.200 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And tribal consultation occurred during this period as well. 40 00:07:20.770 --> 00:07:25.650 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: So the health and safety element is scheduled to go to City Council on October 20th. 41 00:07:28.620 --> 00:07:34.139 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And now I'll provide a brief overview of the changes to the health and safety element as part of this update. 42 00:07:34.590 --> 00:07:46.150 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: There were several of the topic sections that remained the same as the 2014 version, with revisions to policies and programs within those sections. 43 00:07:46.460 --> 00:07:56.119 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Public safety was renamed to public services, and two new topics were added based on government code requirements, and those were extreme heat and climate change resilience. 44 00:07:56.410 --> 00:08:00.640 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And then the noise topic was moved and renumbered accordingly. 45 00:08:04.880 --> 00:08:15.170 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: During the study sessions earlier this year, we did receive several comments from the community, your Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI commission, and the City Council, which were integrated into the health and safety element. 46 00:08:15.460 --> 00:08:19.050 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: The project team updated regional coordination section 47 00:08:19.330 --> 00:08:23.210 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: To include, PFAS coordination and review. 48 00:08:23.390 --> 00:08:34.460 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: and the emergency preparedness response section to include policies for block leaders, vulnerable populations, evacuation, hazard mapping, and education. 49 00:08:35.100 --> 00:08:45.599 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: The fire safety section was updated to provide clarity for defensible space, wildfire assistance programs, and development in the fire hazard severity zones. 50 00:08:46.010 --> 00:08:51.700 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: One policy was added to public services… the public services topic for response times. 51 00:08:51.830 --> 00:08:58.569 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And the hazardous materials policies were updated to include environmental site assessments and storage of hazardous materials. 52 00:09:00.850 --> 00:09:17.989 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Since the safety element was last presented to you all, extreme heat has been pulled out as a separate hazard from the climate change resilience section, with policies for a heat action plan, vulnerable neighborhoods, protections for workers, enhanced shading, artificial turf, and urban forests. 53 00:09:18.510 --> 00:09:24.120 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And policies were added for water conservation to the climate change resilience section. 54 00:09:24.640 --> 00:09:35.400 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And finally, the noise section was updated as well, with policies added for noise control, impact analysis, street signage, and garden equipment. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 55 00:09:38.800 --> 00:09:50.619 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: So once the comments were integrated into the health and safety element, the project team submitted the element to CAL FIRE for inform… the informal review process, which started on July 13th. 56 00:09:50.990 --> 00:10:04.679 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: CAL FIRE staff reviewed and provided recommended changes, and then the element was submitted to the Board of Forestry and Fire Protection on August 21st to be included on their meeting agenda for review, which occurred earlier today. 57 00:10:05.850 --> 00:10:22.480 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: As mentioned earlier, the project team sent the element to the California Office of Emergency Services on July 14th, and heard back from Cal OES on July 22nd, confirming that the draft is consistent with AB 2140's guidance for integrating the hazard mitigation plan. 58 00:10:23.160 --> 00:10:30.029 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: The project team also submitted the element to the California Geological Survey on July 14th, but did not receive any comments. 59 00:10:33.920 --> 00:10:43.370 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: During the CAL FIRE informal review process, CAL FIRE staff did have edits to both the background content and the policies related to wildfire and fire safety. 60 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:50.409 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: In the background section, this included updated… updating the web link to the evacuation route capacity assessment. 61 00:10:50.700 --> 00:10:54.479 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Adding a description of the CZU Lightning Complex fire. 62 00:10:54.650 --> 00:11:01.269 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And adding language confirming that no areas of Cupertino lack coverage for fire protection services. 63 00:11:01.950 --> 00:11:16.639 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: In the fire safety policy section, policies were revised for new development and subdivisions in high and very high fire hazard severity zones. Policies were added to ensure adequate access and road maintenance in hillside areas. 64 00:11:16.810 --> 00:11:24.990 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And policies were revised for defensible space, roadside management, and coordination of anticipated future locations of water supply. 65 00:11:26.050 --> 00:11:32.179 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: The Board of Forestry and Fire Protection Resource Protection Committee reviewed the health and safety element this afternoon. 66 00:11:32.180 --> 00:11:32.750 Community Hall: office. 67 00:11:32.750 --> 00:11:35.989 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And did… did not have any additional changes. 68 00:11:36.270 --> 00:11:44.700 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: However, they had unanimous praise for the safety element's structure, content, and alignment with safe… fire safe regulations and other programs. 69 00:11:48.880 --> 00:11:54.279 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: City staff led the tribal consultation process pursuant to Senate Bill 18 requirements. 70 00:11:54.490 --> 00:12:02.520 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: A request was sent to the California Native Heritage Commission for a list of tribe contacts on May 18th of this year. 71 00:12:02.900 --> 00:12:11.740 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Staff sent letters via mail and email to each of the tribe contacts on the list received from NAHC. 72 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:18.440 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And staff received one response from the Tammy Nation and initiated the consultation process on July 9th. 73 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:28.739 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Staff met with a member of the Tammy Nation on August 28th, the result of which confirmed that the tribe did not have any comments on the proposed policy amendments to the element. 74 00:12:32.100 --> 00:12:49.140 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: The project team conducted environmental review pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act. The Health and Safety Element Update qualifies for a CEQA exemption under the common sense exemption set forth in CEQA guidelines section 15061B3. 75 00:12:49.250 --> 00:12:55.950 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Because the update is a program- level document and does not commit the city to any specific development actions. 76 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:05.120 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: The update does not include changes to land use or zoning, does not increase development potential, and does not grant entitlements for development. 77 00:13:05.630 --> 00:13:15.950 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: There are no provisions of the update that would result in direct or indirect population growth, or place additional demands on natural resources, public services, or infrastructure. 78 00:13:16.570 --> 00:13:24.529 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And future implementation actions that could affect the environment would be subject to separate CEQA review at the time they're prepared. 79 00:13:28.540 --> 00:13:35.009 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: So with that, staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt the draft resolution recommending that the City Council 80 00:13:35.160 --> 00:13:48.139 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Adopt amendments to Chapter 7, Health and Safety, Appendix D, Community Noise Fundamentals, Appendix E, Geologic and Seismic Hazards, and a new Appendix H, Health and Safety Background Report. 81 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.330 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: and find… find the actions exempt from CEQA. 82 00:13:53.170 --> 00:13:58.329 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: So that does include our presentation, and we're available to answer any questions that you may have. 83 00:14:01.330 --> 00:14:14.109 Community Hall: Great, thank you very much, and Piu, just to confirm, is there a second presentation from… you mentioned there were two people, or is it just this one? No, just staff from the same consulting company here. Great, thank you, then we'll take it back to the Commission. Do we have any questions? 84 00:14:14.260 --> 00:14:15.660 Community Hall: Yes, Commissioner Rao. 85 00:14:16.270 --> 00:14:22.699 Community Hall: Yes, thank you for the presentation. Could we go back to the slides? And there was a slide that said changes from 86 00:14:22.930 --> 00:14:25.570 Community Hall: Changes in 2026, I think it was called. 87 00:14:26.390 --> 00:14:28.389 Community Hall: If you can project the slides one more time. 88 00:14:28.660 --> 00:14:29.640 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Yes. 89 00:14:36.590 --> 00:14:39.190 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And which slide would you like me to show? 90 00:14:39.190 --> 00:14:42.389 Community Hall: I think it's a changes in 2026, so… 91 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:43.679 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: This one? 92 00:14:44.430 --> 00:14:45.410 Community Hall: Yeah. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 93 00:14:46.030 --> 00:14:47.750 Community Hall: Next one, maybe? 94 00:14:49.450 --> 00:14:50.560 Community Hall: Yes, this one. 95 00:14:51.620 --> 00:14:57.269 Community Hall: So, I had a couple of questions here. One is… Own the noise. 96 00:14:57.720 --> 00:15:06.280 Community Hall: I seem to recall past Planning Commission feedback on three-way noise and pickleball noise. I don't see either of those mentioned in the noise category. Is there a reason they were omitted? 97 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:30.089 Community Hall: I can take that question. Freeway noise is actually extensively covered in the noise element, as presented tonight. With respect to pickleball, I know you and I had a conversation earlier about this, too. We kind of have, language in there that covers, noise- generating uses. So not just pickleball, but any uses that generate noise. I mean, we have pickleball today, but we could have pickleball tomorrow. 98 00:15:30.180 --> 00:15:44.379 Community Hall: And so, in order to address those kinds of issues, we kind of left the language to be, anything that generates noise needs to be mitigated and have mitigation measures associated with it. Yeah, if you can go back to the slides and keep the slides up, please. 99 00:15:46.890 --> 00:15:58.140 Community Hall: So, my question is on the slide itself, given the extensive discussion the city has had on the topic of both freeway noise and pickleball noise, is there a reason PlaceWorks did not include it in the slides here? 100 00:16:01.530 --> 00:16:10.999 Community Hall: Not necessarily. They are part of the red line documents that is presented in the package for Planning Commission review. Okay, if you can stay on the slide one more time. 101 00:16:12.160 --> 00:16:20.360 Community Hall: There's an item under noise called impact analysis. Did impact analysis get included in the policy recommendations? Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 102 00:16:20.780 --> 00:16:27.110 Community Hall: Specifically for noise, related to private or public areas. 103 00:16:28.070 --> 00:16:31.269 Community Hall: Can you repeat that question again? Impact analysis. 104 00:16:31.800 --> 00:16:36.849 Community Hall: The last row on the slide, impact analysis under noise, was that included for 105 00:16:37.130 --> 00:16:55.809 Community Hall: noise emanating from change of use in public or private areas? Correct. It's actually Policy HS10.8 that addresses the analysis and mitigation measures that needed to be provide… that would need to be provided for noise-generating uses in both private and public. Could we put that up? Is it possible to put that up? Sure. 106 00:16:57.050 --> 00:17:03.610 Community Hall: Video, if you could project the staff, Computer… screen? 107 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:17.590 Community Hall: Is there any way to zoom this? 108 00:17:18.980 --> 00:17:20.520 Community Hall: Can we zoom it on our side? 109 00:17:21.690 --> 00:17:22.570 Community Hall: Oh, there you go. 110 00:17:32.110 --> 00:17:42.410 Community Hall: Right, so, thank you. So, I'm reading the policy, and thank you for including it, but it says includes adequate noise mitigation measures. 111 00:17:42.600 --> 00:17:45.430 Community Hall: But it does not include impact analysis. 112 00:17:45.500 --> 00:18:03.330 Community Hall: The way that you would have to, generate those mitigation measures would be through the noise analysis, and actually, we are going to be presenting another municipal code amendment change to the Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Commission that's coming up soon, which will actually be including that in the Muni Code as well. 113 00:18:03.360 --> 00:18:09.050 Community Hall: So, I guess my question to PlaceWorks, why was impact analysis not included in this? Because this is a… 114 00:18:09.340 --> 00:18:16.950 Community Hall: An area of great concern and neighborhood feedback, and this has been a topic of tremendous discussion. 115 00:18:17.090 --> 00:18:21.300 Community Hall: Consuming a lot of staff and, council and commission time. 116 00:18:21.860 --> 00:18:27.279 Community Hall: I know the slide says impact analysis, but why did the policy not include impact analysis specifically? 117 00:18:27.760 --> 00:18:30.120 Community Hall: Question for PlaceWorks. 118 00:18:30.700 --> 00:18:32.590 Community Hall: May I answer that question, sir? 119 00:18:32.730 --> 00:18:43.090 Community Hall: PlaceWorks is actually… I'd love to hear from PlaceWorks too, but go ahead. Sure. Their, scope of work is limited to the health and safety element. The noise element is a separate section that 120 00:18:43.090 --> 00:18:56.820 Community Hall: We were, not anticipating editing with this update, but due to the response that we received, staff actually looked at some of those policies and has been updating it. This is not PlaceWorks updating it. Oh, I see. So PlaceWorks was… 121 00:18:57.070 --> 00:18:59.459 Community Hall: Not the editor for the noise. 122 00:18:59.960 --> 00:19:01.140 Community Hall: Okay, very good. 123 00:19:02.700 --> 00:19:05.719 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: If you can go back to that slide one more time. 124 00:19:06.790 --> 00:19:08.980 Community Hall: And my last question here, I'll yield my… 125 00:19:09.340 --> 00:19:12.110 Community Hall: One time after this. We can go back to the slide. 126 00:19:14.910 --> 00:19:21.659 Community Hall: Video, can you switch to the screen that, Jacqueline was sharing? Thank you. 127 00:19:22.430 --> 00:19:33.929 Community Hall: On the fire safety, was there any consideration for… I know on some other categories we talk about interagency cooperation, for example, on the trucking hours and so on. 128 00:19:34.100 --> 00:19:37.110 Community Hall: Was there any consideration for fire safety to… 129 00:19:37.250 --> 00:19:45.090 Community Hall: Pursue similarly interagency coordination to ensure that there's weed and brush abatement on the hillside and in the quarry lands. 130 00:19:50.460 --> 00:19:52.599 Community Hall: Not sure who that question should go to. 131 00:19:53.560 --> 00:19:54.980 Community Hall: There's a PlaceWorks section? 132 00:19:56.560 --> 00:19:58.210 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: I'm happy to… happy to answer. 133 00:19:58.210 --> 00:19:59.690 Community Hall: Jacqueline, why don't you? Yeah. 134 00:19:59.950 --> 00:20:09.550 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Yes, so the fire safety section and the regional coordination section actually also, has… 135 00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:16.060 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: A couple of policies that are for, coordination between 136 00:20:16.340 --> 00:20:21.769 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Different agencies, that provide fire protection services, 137 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:26.800 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: And that they would work together for… 138 00:20:28.010 --> 00:20:37.430 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: vegetation management in not only in Cupertino, but in the surrounding open space, and I'm not sure about the quarry, but I know the open space areas. 139 00:20:39.870 --> 00:20:43.000 Community Hall: Yeah, it's concerning that we have 140 00:20:43.520 --> 00:20:55.270 Community Hall: no explicit mention of quarry, because this is an area where staffing has gone down from 200 to 16, and there's a lot of concern around fire and press, so I'll leave it at that. We can make a motion if needed. Thank you. 141 00:20:56.990 --> 00:20:58.370 Community Hall: Any other questions? 142 00:20:59.750 --> 00:21:00.839 Community Hall: No, for sure. 143 00:21:01.170 --> 00:21:13.080 Community Hall: Hi, on page 6 of, the draft resolution, where you describe the sheriff's… office… duties, 144 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:19.930 Community Hall: I guess I can do it in a substitute motion, but there's something that, needs to be added to that regarding 145 00:21:20.910 --> 00:21:26.239 Community Hall: the sheriff… primary responsibility being for the City of Cupertino. 146 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:37.260 Community Hall: Sorry, and I… it's only because of an unfortunate incident earlier this month, 147 00:21:37.580 --> 00:21:43.240 Community Hall: Where there was a fake 911 call, and the deputies were sent to another city. 148 00:21:43.520 --> 00:21:47.039 Community Hall: And we need to make it clear that 149 00:21:47.370 --> 00:21:51.279 Community Hall: The sheriff is responsible for our community. Thank you. 150 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.499 Community Hall: Okay. Is there a staff response to this, or… 151 00:21:58.420 --> 00:22:07.539 Community Hall: I'm sorry, I'm actually trying to find this… the page that, Commissioner Scharf is referring to. Page 6 of the draft resolution. 152 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:13.220 Community Hall: Health and Safety Element Public Hearing Draft. 153 00:22:16.130 --> 00:22:18.840 Community Hall: About a third of the way down the page. 154 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:27.980 Community Hall: Chapter 7? Page 6 of Chapter 7, sir? 155 00:22:28.990 --> 00:22:30.900 Community Hall: That's what I'm looking at. Okay. 156 00:22:40.800 --> 00:22:45.829 Community Hall: And you wish to add this language where… Right, so… 157 00:22:46.600 --> 00:22:48.629 Community Hall: Let me go back there now. 158 00:22:48.780 --> 00:22:52.820 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: So I… the language I wish to add, and I wrote it out here, is… 159 00:22:53.210 --> 00:23:02.389 Community Hall: The Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office's primary responsibility is the safety and security of the Cupertino community, which funds its operation. 160 00:23:02.670 --> 00:23:04.229 Community Hall: That's one bullet point. 161 00:23:04.850 --> 00:23:16.289 Community Hall: And then the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office deputies serving Cupertino shall not deploy to other Santa Clara County cities without a direct request from the other jurisdiction. 162 00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:19.300 Community Hall: Or except in the case of an actual emergency. 163 00:23:24.030 --> 00:23:26.159 Community Hall: I can email you these. 164 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:27.340 Community Hall: If you wish. 165 00:23:28.370 --> 00:23:35.769 Community Hall: Yeah, Commissioner, this is a little bit outside of my bailiwake, but I don't believe we can dictate to… 166 00:23:35.900 --> 00:23:43.820 Community Hall: the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Department, their discretion, and their need to, if necessary, go to another jurisdiction. 167 00:23:44.170 --> 00:23:49.689 Community Hall: Right, I'm not saying… if it's necessary, and the other jurisdiction requests it, sure. 168 00:23:49.810 --> 00:23:59.350 Community Hall: Well, it… again, it's… I'm not familiar enough with the appropriate law enforcement requirements of the county, but, you know, they… 169 00:23:59.420 --> 00:24:12.030 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: I just don't know if there's an instance where, in absence of a request from a system jurisdiction, the law enforcement believed to exercise their duty, they would need to go to that jurisdiction. 170 00:24:14.280 --> 00:24:26.159 Community Hall: Are we… do we have, we're still in the questions phase. Do you have more questions, or… No, I mean, I just… I would not vote for this draft resolution in the current form, though. Thank you. 171 00:24:26.650 --> 00:24:29.369 Community Hall: Okay, any other questions, Commissioner Rao? 172 00:24:30.750 --> 00:24:35.550 Community Hall: Yeah, staying on that page 5, when we look at the… 173 00:24:36.630 --> 00:24:43.940 Community Hall: Emergency Management, I guess it's called the OEM, resonance exercisers. 174 00:24:44.420 --> 00:24:48.020 Community Hall: Does that include the public works service yard? 175 00:24:48.210 --> 00:24:51.940 Community Hall: Is the service yard under the scope of the OEM drills, or… 176 00:24:52.590 --> 00:24:55.820 Community Hall: Or, TR… simulating TR scenarios. 177 00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:14.349 Community Hall: Yeah, that is not something that, planning staff would know. That would be part of emergency services, but, to the extent that that is part of their responsibilities, I'm sure they would be including all city staff. 178 00:25:16.710 --> 00:25:22.380 Community Hall: I guess maybe the question for PlaceWorks, was there any evaluation of the… 179 00:25:22.770 --> 00:25:27.290 Community Hall: Drills themselves for whether they were comprehensive or needed updating. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 180 00:25:27.420 --> 00:25:29.329 Community Hall: Or was that out of the scope of this? 181 00:25:34.460 --> 00:25:46.589 Community Hall: So that would be outside the scope of this. This is a policy-level document. What you're discussing is really operational emergency at a much more granular level. 182 00:25:48.380 --> 00:25:49.429 Community Hall: Okay, thank you. 183 00:25:50.430 --> 00:25:52.789 Community Hall: Any other questions? Admission? 184 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:56.399 Community Hall: I have a few. So, 185 00:25:57.120 --> 00:26:04.699 Community Hall: Alright, on page 10 of the document, I was curious, just to clarify, one of the lines was… 186 00:26:04.800 --> 00:26:17.659 Community Hall: crossed out. It was the EOC can be fully functional within 30 minutes of activation for a Level 3 activation on a workday. And I noticed that that was redlined and… or crossed out. And I'm curious if that… 187 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:26.640 Community Hall: just no longer holds, we can no longer activate within 30 minutes. Is that something we should be concerned about, and maybe needs some attention? 188 00:26:31.770 --> 00:26:43.909 Community Hall: I believe from a practical matter, those things go into oper… like, emergency operations plans, and not necessarily general plans, but I will also let PlaceWorks chime in if they have a response. 189 00:26:46.430 --> 00:26:48.810 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Yes, those… 190 00:26:48.920 --> 00:27:00.109 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Those details would be more in an emergency operations plan, and they could, change, and therefore it was redlined from this higher level 191 00:27:00.270 --> 00:27:02.380 Jacqueline Protsman Rohr | PlaceWorks: Longer range document. 192 00:27:04.090 --> 00:27:05.969 Community Hall: I see. Okay. Thank you. 193 00:27:06.170 --> 00:27:13.920 Community Hall: Then… It also noted on page 11 that the City reviews the plan annually. 194 00:27:14.100 --> 00:27:17.840 Community Hall: Is this currently the case, or is this aspirational? 195 00:27:20.190 --> 00:27:24.909 Community Hall: We'll have to check with the emergency management staff. Okay. 196 00:27:25.660 --> 00:27:45.570 Community Hall: All right, I've got more questions. So, on page 20, this is more just for my own knowledge. I think there's a lot of community interest in this. It mentions that the Santa Clara County Fire Department has a hazardous brush inspection program for hillside areas, including inspections of hillside properties by fire crews beginning in early April of every year. 197 00:27:45.570 --> 00:27:49.660 Community Hall: How do residents sign up for that if they want to have their home inspected? 198 00:27:52.520 --> 00:28:07.150 Community Hall: I believe they have to contact the fire department for that. I think the fire department has a dedicated website for their inspections and things like that, and we're happy to provide more information, but I believe they're the ones who conduct these. 199 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:19.720 Community Hall: And they have a website for it. Yeah, that would be great, because, we… I have, spoken with a number of community members that are very concerned about the amount of fuel in their backsides. So… okay. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 200 00:28:20.020 --> 00:28:35.259 Community Hall: I think I only had one final question. This was based off a public comment that mentioned something that wasn't noted in the health and safety element so far. Is there… where would risk of trees falling onto roads fall within this 201 00:28:35.420 --> 00:28:37.170 Community Hall: Health and safety elements. 202 00:28:39.410 --> 00:28:41.030 Community Hall: Or trees falling in general. 203 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:59.230 Community Hall: I think that might come under the whole evacuation, concerns, or… but in general, there is the urban, forest management plan that the city is preparing, and it could probably go into that in terms of an action item for what 204 00:28:59.230 --> 00:29:06.409 Community Hall: You know, as a more granular thing that staff should look to in evaluating trees when they're, looking at them. 205 00:29:06.760 --> 00:29:07.849 Community Hall: Great, thank you. 206 00:29:08.210 --> 00:29:09.279 Community Hall: Yeah, Commissioner Rao. 207 00:29:09.700 --> 00:29:16.280 Community Hall: Yes, going back to the policy HS10.8, if we can project the screen. 208 00:29:52.230 --> 00:29:55.650 Community Hall: Video, if you could please, share the staff screen. 209 00:30:06.110 --> 00:30:09.329 Community Hall: On the item here around noise. 210 00:30:10.030 --> 00:30:15.350 Community Hall: Is the noise-generating users considered to be a… 211 00:30:15.760 --> 00:30:19.490 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: In new use, or a change of use on existing… 212 00:30:21.260 --> 00:30:25.599 Community Hall: it could be a change of use as well. So, essentially, if you had 213 00:30:25.830 --> 00:30:29.430 Community Hall: I'm gonna use the… the example, 214 00:30:29.630 --> 00:30:41.740 Community Hall: probably most relevant to pickleball is the change of use from a tennis court to a pickleball court. That would be a change of use in terms of the amount of noise that would be generated, and therefore would need mitigation as such. 215 00:30:42.010 --> 00:30:44.579 Community Hall: And so that would be included in this? Correct. 216 00:30:45.020 --> 00:30:50.559 Community Hall: And does such a change of use require a COP currently? Not on public property. 217 00:30:51.530 --> 00:30:53.750 Community Hall: Not on public property. 218 00:30:53.930 --> 00:30:56.819 Community Hall: Is there a way we might be able to recommend that tonight? 219 00:30:57.100 --> 00:31:05.400 Community Hall: No, it's outside of the scope of what we're doing here, but also, it is city-owned property, the city doesn't issue itself use permits generally. 220 00:31:06.980 --> 00:31:15.639 Community Hall: What other checks and balances might we recommend in policy language that would allow for an explicit oversight on such change of use? 221 00:31:16.030 --> 00:31:27.509 Community Hall: I think what you're suggesting would probably best go in the parks and recreation, or the open space element, in terms of the uses that go in parks, but this is outside the scope of that. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 222 00:31:29.810 --> 00:31:34.679 Community Hall: Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but is there a recommendation on 223 00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:48.639 Community Hall: On the noise element itself, given this is being updated, is there additional recommendations, policy language that we might use in lieu of COP? Is there something else we might use, such as recommendation for explicit 224 00:31:48.840 --> 00:31:50.730 Community Hall: Council approval. 225 00:31:51.330 --> 00:32:01.719 Community Hall: Or let me rephrase, is there any other policy language in the draft today that refers to explicit council approval as a way to encourage that oversight? 226 00:32:02.570 --> 00:32:15.910 Community Hall: I think what you're talking about is the process, which this is not. This is really about the mitigations related to noise- generating activities and uses. The process itself, by how, 227 00:32:15.910 --> 00:32:24.570 Community Hall: Uses on public property change, that that has its own place, which is not in the health and safety element itself. 228 00:32:25.410 --> 00:32:40.819 Community Hall: Yeah, if I could add, I think that would mostly be handled through an ordinance, and be something that would be more code- based, because this is laying the framework for what you would want, but if then you want to get into describing the type of permit, or the body that would approve it, that would be more appropriate in a code. 229 00:32:42.490 --> 00:32:47.500 Community Hall: I guess there are other places where we talk about ensure that conditions of approval are incorporated, but… 230 00:32:47.670 --> 00:32:50.530 Community Hall: We couldn't do that for public recreational spaces. 231 00:32:50.710 --> 00:33:03.570 Community Hall: Well, I mean, this basically says that there's going to be noise mitigation measures that would be implemented, so that is the Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI condition of approval that the mitigation measure needs to be implemented. Understood. I think the difference is the mitigation measures would be staff 232 00:33:04.130 --> 00:33:20.030 Community Hall: administered, whereas the conditions of approval would need explicit oversight from council or a commission? Actually, administrative decisions almost always have conditions of approval associated with them, but again, you know. 233 00:33:20.330 --> 00:33:26.069 Community Hall: This basically lays the framework for what happens when you change a noise… 234 00:33:26.180 --> 00:33:30.970 Community Hall: Generating use, or when you place a noise-generating use in a certain area. 235 00:33:31.210 --> 00:33:47.779 Community Hall: and the process, again, that you're talking about, in terms of the oversight, that goes in those details that Luke was talking about. So is it fair to say we might incorporate language? And again, I'm suggesting it here as a question, so my fellow commissioners are thinking about this, but is it fair to use language such as… 236 00:33:48.090 --> 00:33:57.710 Community Hall: ensure that conditions of approval are included and are non-ministerial as a way to ensure that there's oversight from Council or a commission. 237 00:33:58.620 --> 00:34:08.910 Community Hall: Okay, so I just wanted to add one thing when we were talking, like, mitigations and conditions is… mitigations are always conditions of approval, but not all conditions are mitigations. 238 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:19.009 Community Hall: So anything that is a mitigation for a project would be identified generally in a CEQA document, but also a condition of approval of the project. So if you had a permit. 239 00:34:19.350 --> 00:34:26.969 Community Hall: those mitigations would have to be conditions. But the conditions in that case would be staff identified, or consultant identified? 240 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:39.349 Community Hall: They could be, they would typically be, through CEQA, consultant identified. Okay. But any permit that's going through a hearing body, very few things go to administrative hearings. Only very small projects in this city do. 241 00:34:39.620 --> 00:34:46.770 Community Hall: So, everything else would go to either the Planning Commission or the City Council, who would be then looking at the mitigations and conditions. 242 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:48.659 Community Hall: Thank you. 243 00:34:51.100 --> 00:34:58.470 Community Hall: Mia? Yes. Yeah, so just to follow up on that, I think what I heard you kind of say before was that 244 00:34:58.620 --> 00:35:01.379 Community Hall: It would not be unusual to 245 00:35:01.380 --> 00:35:22.240 Community Hall: I mean, you know, the Municipal Code has a lot of places today that says this particular kind of decision comes… must come to the Planning Commission, this must come to the City Council. So, this would… this must come to an administrative hearing with appropriate notice. So, you're just saying that that would be the mechanistic… There would be a noticed hearing, and generally would be before this body and or the City Council. Okay, thank you. 246 00:35:23.030 --> 00:35:25.329 Community Hall: And if I may, I mean, things like… 247 00:35:25.500 --> 00:35:37.289 Community Hall: capital improvement projects, as an example, because those are the ones that would implement these mitigation measures on, public property. Those would have council oversight in any case. 248 00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:43.980 Community Hall: Actually, again, related to that, so… 249 00:35:44.230 --> 00:35:59.650 Community Hall: I don't know at the top of my head what the capital improvement threshold was for something to be included in that… in that list, but again, that… this is just something the Council can set as part Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI of municipal code as to whether that… whether that has a capital improvement… yeah. 250 00:35:59.750 --> 00:36:10.009 Community Hall: Right, and that was the point I was trying to make, that the process for that change should be… is elsewhere, and that's what should be amended, if that is the desire, but not here. Great. Thank you. 251 00:36:11.690 --> 00:36:14.180 Community Hall: Okay, any other questions from the Commission? 252 00:36:14.730 --> 00:36:19.630 Community Hall: Then at this point, we will break for public comments. Are there any, City Clerk? 253 00:36:20.350 --> 00:36:23.380 Community Hall: We have one remote speaker, Jennifer Griffin. 254 00:36:24.030 --> 00:36:25.520 Community Hall: Welcome, Jennifer. 255 00:36:25.790 --> 00:36:28.150 Jennifer Griffin: Thank you. Can you all hear me? 256 00:36:28.610 --> 00:36:29.979 Community Hall: Yes, we can hear you. 257 00:36:29.980 --> 00:36:33.409 Jennifer Griffin: Okay, thank you. I, Mike… 258 00:36:33.610 --> 00:36:43.629 Jennifer Griffin: This is a great document. Everyone has worked very, very hard on it. I know this has had many meetings, and I'm very pleased to see 259 00:36:43.770 --> 00:36:46.880 Jennifer Griffin: There was a very robust, 260 00:36:47.180 --> 00:37:04.269 Jennifer Griffin: commitment to update sections of this, like for heat, wildfire, evacuation, etc. I think it's a good document, I'm very pleased with it. I just had one or two comments. One of them is that, Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 261 00:37:04.660 --> 00:37:14.170 Jennifer Griffin: I sent a letter to the Planning Commission earlier today, and this concerns… I think this is a piece of the safety 262 00:37:14.290 --> 00:37:17.669 Jennifer Griffin: And health element, which is… 263 00:37:17.670 --> 00:37:30.880 Jennifer Griffin: Making sure that Cupertino has vital services. I don't know where this comes under, but I consider it a safety measure, which is that we maintain adequate grocery stores. 264 00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:38.030 Jennifer Griffin: for the public to purchase food and groceries. We have drugstores and pharmacies so that we can have 265 00:37:38.090 --> 00:37:55.790 Jennifer Griffin: people, residents, particularly seniors, able to buy medicine and pick up medical prescriptions, and that we maintain enough gas stations that the public is able to fuel their vehicles and repair them. If you are trying to make sure that you 266 00:37:56.170 --> 00:38:00.560 Jennifer Griffin: Keep gas in your car because of earthquakes, which 267 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.690 Jennifer Griffin: if you've been through, after 89, Loma Prieta. 268 00:38:04.710 --> 00:38:14.110 Jennifer Griffin: A lot of people around here keep a full gas tank, because there are… it's impossible to get gas in emergency situations like that. 269 00:38:14.120 --> 00:38:30.220 Jennifer Griffin: I don't know where those fall under this category, but I consider those very important vital services, particularly coming out of the pandemic, where, you know, you have to maintain those in the city. I consider them 270 00:38:30.260 --> 00:38:36.410 Jennifer Griffin: As important as emergency access for fire trucks, 271 00:38:36.490 --> 00:38:53.920 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Jennifer Griffin: Public safety with the police department, et cetera, et cetera, because they are… we don't want to be a food desert where we have no grocery stores, and we want to make sure that we have gas available for the public, especially if they have to evacuate. 272 00:38:54.010 --> 00:39:11.190 Jennifer Griffin: Because you… believe me, when… if there's an emergency, you can't line up at the gas station to get gas. I also, I just wanted to mention, over the weekend, I attended my high school class reunion in the area. One of the ladies I was talking to, classmate. 273 00:39:11.300 --> 00:39:24.259 Jennifer Griffin: Lives in Reno, and she and her husband last week were in Mendocino. They were not able to get back into their home in northern Reno. Because of the fire, they had to spend the night in southern… 274 00:39:24.650 --> 00:39:31.479 Jennifer Griffin: Reno, her son was able to get back in and take care of their, poultry and goats. 275 00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:32.849 Community Hall: Thank you, Jennifer, that is your time. 276 00:39:32.850 --> 00:39:34.170 Jennifer Griffin: Thank you. 277 00:39:34.560 --> 00:39:37.179 Community Hall: We have no remaining requests to speak, Chair. 278 00:39:37.550 --> 00:39:42.769 Community Hall: Thank you. Okay, we'll bring it back to this commission. Does anyone have any other questions? Commissioner Rao. 279 00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:46.350 Community Hall: We're gonna tell the school if there's anyone else. 280 00:39:46.640 --> 00:39:47.580 Community Hall: Don't think so. 281 00:39:49.550 --> 00:39:50.330 Community Hall: Go ahead. 282 00:39:51.860 --> 00:39:59.399 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: Okay, I just had one follow-up question on the public comment, and this may be either for staff or for, the PlaceWorks, but, 283 00:39:59.680 --> 00:40:05.650 Community Hall: For vital services, where would there be a place for that in the health and safety element at all? 284 00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.019 Community Hall: Or retention of vital services. 285 00:40:12.530 --> 00:40:23.030 Community Hall: If the Commission wishes to have something, they could, but we can't force grocery stores to remain open. I mean, that's a business decision that they have to make in the event of an emergency. 286 00:40:24.140 --> 00:40:26.659 Community Hall: Yeah, I guess I would just add, I think that 287 00:40:26.950 --> 00:40:31.950 Community Hall: the speaker identified a legitimate issue, I mean, in terms of food deserts and that, but I think 288 00:40:32.130 --> 00:40:43.230 Community Hall: The health and safety element, you're primarily looking at environmental factors that can have an impact on the city and its residents. Things increased heat, earthquakes, fire, flooding. 289 00:40:45.280 --> 00:41:03.690 Community Hall: food services are obviously important, but the safety element's not really there to identify things that are of benefit to people's health, so to speak, like access to grocery stores. I think you could appropriately have policies like that elsewhere in the general plan, I would think in terms of mix of land uses, 290 00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:12.230 Community Hall: having things more walkable, more, you know, closely situated to the population, but I don't think this would really be the element to address that issue. 291 00:41:12.730 --> 00:41:14.940 Community Hall: Okay, thank you for clarifying. Commissioner Rao? 292 00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:22.399 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: Yeah, going back to the construction and weekend noise, I believe it's HS10.3, 293 00:41:23.390 --> 00:41:27.569 Community Hall: I know this was another area that was discussed in the past, Planning Commission. 294 00:41:27.870 --> 00:41:32.919 Community Hall: It appears there's no real change in this section other than editorial to add, 295 00:41:33.370 --> 00:41:35.189 Community Hall: So I made a total fixes. 296 00:41:36.020 --> 00:41:40.610 Community Hall: Was there consideration to add more restrictions on holidays? 297 00:41:40.720 --> 00:41:42.010 Community Hall: Or weekends. 298 00:41:42.330 --> 00:41:47.609 Community Hall: I know the Saturday schedule is, what, 9am to 7pm, or 6 p.m? 299 00:41:48.780 --> 00:42:00.549 Community Hall: So I will say, sir, we have not done any analysis on this section, because the update to the noise… to the health and safety element actually did not include a substantial revision to the noise element. 300 00:42:00.550 --> 00:42:13.509 Community Hall: But with that said, we do have standards in the, municipal code with respect to construction hours and things like that, and this is just… we're just aligning the text in here to… to… with that. 301 00:42:13.510 --> 00:42:16.290 Community Hall: We're not… Proposing to make any changes. 302 00:42:16.560 --> 00:42:22.850 Community Hall: There was no analysis done, on that issue. But is it fair to say that Commission could amend 303 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 00:42:23.110 --> 00:42:28.890 Community Hall: To suggest further changes here to apply further limits on construction noise on weekends. 304 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:31.520 Community Hall: That's the Commission's will. 305 00:42:34.500 --> 00:42:37.480 Community Hall: Any other questions? Yes. 306 00:42:38.790 --> 00:42:51.640 Community Hall: On the evacuation study and the related evacuation corridors, The PlaceWorks memo… explicitly identifies hotel, Stevens Creek, McClellan. 307 00:42:52.390 --> 00:42:54.570 Community Hall: Maybe a couple more. 308 00:42:54.900 --> 00:43:01.370 Community Hall: But the actual text in the element, the health and safety element, Chose to omit those. 309 00:43:01.660 --> 00:43:02.610 Community Hall: Can we? 310 00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:06.580 Community Hall: comment on the rationale, maybe from PlaceWorks, and why those were omitted? 311 00:43:11.290 --> 00:43:15.349 Community Hall: Because those corridors, I believe, the fire evacuation study showed it was 312 00:43:15.580 --> 00:43:18.549 Community Hall: Up to 4 hours to evacuate in the event of a fire. 313 00:43:19.100 --> 00:43:21.129 Community Hall: So, seems like a fairly… 314 00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:26.340 Community Hall: Contentious issue, and we know we've received a lot of restaurant feedback on that. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 315 00:43:26.720 --> 00:43:29.309 Community Hall: The memo does some good work identifying it. 316 00:43:29.450 --> 00:43:34.740 Community Hall: Well, why was it not included explicitly in the… In the, element. 317 00:43:39.420 --> 00:43:58.940 Community Hall: I don't know if PlaceWorks has anything to add, but I think the evacuation study really was a standalone document that was done essentially as an appendix, or part of this, by reference. So, I forget the length, but there's a lot in there. It was really, as you point out, more of a capacity issue, where you were identifying 318 00:43:59.550 --> 00:44:14.830 Community Hall: should you have something occur, particularly on the west side, where are your potential bottlenecks and delays? So this document isn't really trying to replicate what that's already doing. That was meant to be a standalone that was required to be part of this 319 00:44:15.940 --> 00:44:21.459 Community Hall: But that's probably another area we could explicitly name, or maybe use some criteria to say. 320 00:44:21.630 --> 00:44:28.879 Community Hall: The most congested corridors, as found in the evacuation study, be considered for operational improvements and prioritized. 321 00:44:31.090 --> 00:44:39.009 Community Hall: Yeah, so far as I know, that would be a fair thing to say. I probably wouldn't want to try to get a lot of detail, but if you wanted to, like, by reference. 322 00:44:39.560 --> 00:44:47.059 Community Hall: use the evacuation study in the most impacted corridors to prioritize those. That would seem to be a reasonable thing to do. 323 00:44:50.080 --> 00:44:58.220 Community Hall: And then the fire evacuation analysis itself, the scenarios that were looked at, I don't think they covered school drop and school pick. 324 00:44:58.500 --> 00:45:00.500 Community Hall: Was there a reason that the… Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 325 00:45:00.820 --> 00:45:04.379 Community Hall: PlaceWorks analysis did not consider the school drop and pick. 326 00:45:08.390 --> 00:45:20.730 Community Hall: sorry, for the evacuation study, you mean? Yeah. I think the scenarios that was… that were evaluated included scenarios that were, you know, either had school… 327 00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:29.280 Community Hall: ongoing, like, during the daytime, and, off times, but I'll let, Jacqueline speak to it if she has anything to add to that. 328 00:45:29.790 --> 00:45:39.480 Community Hall: But that was also developed with our other consultant, Farron Pierce, who were the actual preparers of that evacuation study. 329 00:45:41.940 --> 00:45:44.769 Community Hall: So that is out of the scope of today's update. 330 00:45:46.060 --> 00:45:58.049 Community Hall: So the recommendations from the evacuation study were kind of picked up in the actual document. The evacuation study itself is outside the scope of what we're looking at today. And that study is that… 331 00:45:58.650 --> 00:46:02.809 Community Hall: Is that a done thing? There's no chance to have it revised, to reflect. 332 00:46:03.010 --> 00:46:25.470 Community Hall: Because I know these corridors face extreme congestion during school drop and pick, and it'd be good to see what the effect of an emergency or a fire evacuation during the school drop and pick hours would be. So, again, I mean, this is a policy-level document. This is not necessarily an operational level document, and there are policies that have been included in the health and safety element that talk about 333 00:46:25.470 --> 00:46:36.479 Community Hall: dynamic traffic assignments, or, like, doing those kinds of more nuanced studies further down the road, but that's not a subject of this general plan update. But could we recommend through today's 334 00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:40.579 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: Motion to update the evacuation study to 335 00:46:40.590 --> 00:46:48.730 Community Hall: analyze the school drop and pick scenarios? That is… that study is complete at this point in time. That is a complete document. Right. Okay. 336 00:46:51.200 --> 00:46:57.120 Community Hall: I will yield my time. There's more questions. Does anyone have further questions? Vice Chair? Did you… 337 00:46:58.010 --> 00:47:02.989 Community Hall: Okay, then, no, I think we're… Commissioner Rao, if you have further questions. 338 00:47:04.010 --> 00:47:06.610 Community Hall: Yes, I did have more questions. 339 00:47:07.460 --> 00:47:12.469 Community Hall: Trying to limit my questions here, so let's see what we want to talk about. 340 00:47:13.580 --> 00:47:19.269 Community Hall: Were there any additional… Limitations around the… 341 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:27.370 Community Hall: the, I know we've had a lot of issues around Delivery, especially with these, 342 00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:39.349 Community Hall: truck-based deliveries now, and they're coming in later and later in the night. Are there any considerations for setting hours of deliveries so that I know Christmas time may be an exception, maybe some other exceptions, but… 343 00:47:39.690 --> 00:47:47.120 Community Hall: it seems like we are getting further and further into the night when delivery trucks are doing deliveries now. So was there any consideration to setting 344 00:47:47.350 --> 00:47:56.990 Community Hall: Hours of operation limits for… Areas, especially residentially, that That see these deliveries. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 345 00:47:57.370 --> 00:48:04.050 Community Hall: Like Luke mentioned, this element is really about natural hazards and other, 346 00:48:04.160 --> 00:48:12.209 Community Hall: Things that might impact, city… the community, so no, that was not part of this update. 347 00:48:12.500 --> 00:48:17.470 Community Hall: Yeah, I think specifically this was 10.7.3, HS10.7.3. 348 00:48:19.080 --> 00:48:24.649 Community Hall: So, it specifically addresses… Some aspect, but could it be… 349 00:48:26.170 --> 00:48:33.489 Community Hall: Instead of saying… the language, I believe, says consider whether… could we be stronger in the language to say pursue, instead of consider whether? 350 00:48:33.850 --> 00:48:36.579 Community Hall: Or was that considered to be more… 351 00:48:37.750 --> 00:48:40.260 Community Hall: consider is because I believe some… 352 00:48:40.550 --> 00:48:43.890 Community Hall: Streets may be restrict… like, the city might have… 353 00:48:44.380 --> 00:49:04.050 Community Hall: there might be limitations on what the city might be able to implement on some of these streets, so it would need study, so I… we did not… again, this was not the subject of the update, so we wanted to have some policy language in there that would allow the city to pursue other options down the road, and further study. 354 00:49:06.890 --> 00:49:08.059 Community Hall: Okay, thank you. 355 00:49:09.460 --> 00:49:14.879 Community Hall: Okay, if we do not have any further questions, we will move to any comments. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 356 00:49:18.380 --> 00:49:24.550 Community Hall: I mean, I… I can… I'm happy to… oh, Commissioner Fong? Yep, I was… I was just gonna say, you know, it was, 357 00:49:24.700 --> 00:49:33.549 Community Hall: I think it was good to see the process that this went through. In particular, you know, there were a number of areas which were enhanced as a result of a comment along the way. 358 00:49:34.930 --> 00:49:53.959 Community Hall: you know, and I think that… I think it's good. There was, you know, there was quite a bit of public outreach with having two sessions at City Council to take input, so I, you know, commend the, you know, the staff and the consultants on, on making that happen. I do think one other area 359 00:49:54.560 --> 00:49:59.999 Community Hall: that I might mention is… I think it's… it's very common. 360 00:50:00.970 --> 00:50:05.800 Community Hall: For many of the projects that we consider, here in the Planning Commission, many of them are coming with 361 00:50:06.090 --> 00:50:07.490 Community Hall: Exemptions. 362 00:50:07.750 --> 00:50:10.470 Community Hall: So, 363 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:28.489 Community Hall: That's… of course, that's an interesting… it's an interesting area, exemptions, when you look at things like capacity, you know, evacuation capacity, for instance, and I think that one of the natural questions that's raised, you know, by the community is, you know, is this project, this specific project. 364 00:50:28.600 --> 00:50:31.059 Community Hall: By virtue of the fact that it's, 365 00:50:31.580 --> 00:50:39.920 Community Hall: that it's getting, exemptions, that, you know, that might exceed the capacity that was considered here. I think that, 366 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:43.140 Community Hall: I wouldn't actually look at this, I mean, of course. 367 00:50:44.240 --> 00:50:48.010 Community Hall: You know, you could look at it in an obstructionist way to say, well, you know, we shouldn't have… 368 00:50:48.020 --> 00:51:04.260 Community Hall: we shouldn't allow a particular project or an exemption, because that would exceed this. But I do think there would be a value in mentioning how those things interplay as part of the document here. Maybe from the other side, just so that 369 00:51:04.260 --> 00:51:23.329 Community Hall: there's a clearer level set for people when they pick up the document to understand what does it… what does it really mean, you know, that exemptions are a part of the… of how these things are selected, that these become, you know, they're still in play for something like a fire review or, you know, these different things. And to reflect that a little bit, I think. 370 00:51:23.340 --> 00:51:31.210 Community Hall: Would be good in trying to make it clearer as to what kinds of things, you know, that the, that this kind of document 371 00:51:31.250 --> 00:51:36.999 Community Hall: Took those things in consideration in the scope of the policies that it lays out. 372 00:51:37.120 --> 00:51:56.800 Community Hall: I think that that would be a great thing. Now, I'll balance that by saying that, you know, for a document like this, there are many regulations about what it can and can't say, and I think that there's, you know, obviously there's been a huge effort here to make sure to be conforming with best practice there. So, if there's not a place to talk about what does it mean if 373 00:51:57.080 --> 00:52:02.069 Community Hall: You know, if a project is approved that's taller or denser. 374 00:52:02.200 --> 00:52:06.390 Community Hall: That's probably okay, too. I mean, that's just… that's the way it is. 375 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 00:52:06.550 --> 00:52:15.580 Community Hall: But, I would just say as a consideration, that's something to consider if there's an opportunity to mention those things, because I think just being clear about that… 376 00:52:15.700 --> 00:52:18.849 Community Hall: Is better, better for all parties. 377 00:52:20.040 --> 00:52:21.930 Community Hall: With that, that is my comment. 378 00:52:23.130 --> 00:52:24.639 Community Hall: Any other comments? 379 00:52:27.030 --> 00:52:36.449 Community Hall: Yeah, I'll go ahead and agree with that. I certainly hope that the health and safety element development parameters do not get waived easily. 380 00:52:36.450 --> 00:52:48.789 Community Hall: My comments are similar in the sense that I do think that a lot of progress has been made on this, and so thank you to staff, and thank you to PlaceWorks for taking a lot of the feedback that we originally provided. I know that I tracked some of 381 00:52:48.820 --> 00:53:10.609 Community Hall: the changes that I had recommended, so thank you for adding the community rating system around flood risk. Thank you for adding emergency management as a fifth point on page 50. I'm also glad you are accounting for population growth. This isn't something that we mentioned, but it is a concern. How do we adjust our infrastructure and emergency management as the city population grows? 382 00:53:10.610 --> 00:53:14.509 Community Hall: And I hope that that gets taken up as a priority. 383 00:53:14.630 --> 00:53:29.709 Community Hall: On the freeway noise, I do think that's a very interesting, point to make, and the VTA has already undergone sound mitigation tests for Highway 85, so, I do think that that one, we can definitely continue to partner with our agency partners on that. 384 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:47.789 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: On the Section 2.11.3, absolutely yes to the addition of the managed traffic control. So this was not something that I saw before, and in this latest revision on evacuation, they added a lot more around 385 00:53:48.210 --> 00:53:54.700 Community Hall: you know, turn restrictions, signal timing adjustments, lane conversions, in the event of evacuation. I actually think this is a… 386 00:53:55.380 --> 00:54:14.950 Community Hall: just as important, if not more important than the route itself, is how we manage the traffic exiting from, the homes. That is how you… if we can manage that appropriately, that's how we would, you know, hopefully avert the Palisades-type situation. And, you know, my only feedback would really just be, I think, the… 387 00:54:14.950 --> 00:54:27.109 Community Hall: brief point that we made around maybe… maybe there's a need to incorporate risks of trees falling into the urban management… urban forest management plan. But, yeah, I think otherwise, I think this is looking good. 388 00:54:27.410 --> 00:54:28.960 Community Hall: Any other comments? 389 00:54:29.390 --> 00:54:32.759 Community Hall: Commissioner Rao? Yeah, I'd like to make a set of 390 00:54:33.410 --> 00:54:38.439 Community Hall: Small motions that will make recommendations for amendments to the draft. 391 00:54:39.230 --> 00:54:41.510 Community Hall: If that's okay. 392 00:54:43.070 --> 00:54:43.750 Community Hall: Yes? 393 00:54:44.050 --> 00:54:44.820 Community Hall: Okay. 394 00:54:45.330 --> 00:54:48.469 Community Hall: So, the first one that I would like to… 395 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 00:54:49.620 --> 00:54:55.860 Community Hall: move is the earlier comment I made, which is on the evacuation constraint corridors. 396 00:54:56.930 --> 00:55:02.300 Community Hall: I'd like to move on HS2.11.7, the evacuation constraint corridors. 397 00:55:02.790 --> 00:55:05.100 Community Hall: to include text. 398 00:55:05.690 --> 00:55:13.740 Community Hall: That says, prioritize… The evacuation route capacity assessment for any 399 00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:18.569 Community Hall: Roadway changes on these evacuation-constrained corridors. 400 00:55:19.950 --> 00:55:23.379 Community Hall: Once again, if… If I may repeat that. 401 00:55:24.190 --> 00:55:27.799 Community Hall: Prioritize the evacuation route capacity assessment. 402 00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:37.349 Community Hall: For any roadway changes to… Our evacuation-constrained corridors, without explicitly naming any particular roadways. 403 00:55:37.780 --> 00:55:39.040 Community Hall: Do I have a second? 404 00:55:40.290 --> 00:55:48.069 Community Hall: I'm sorry, which page are you on now? I'm on HS2.11.7, Evacuation Constraint Corridors. This is the fire evacuation study that 405 00:55:48.560 --> 00:55:55.879 Community Hall: that found certain routes, like Stevens Creek, Foothill, McLuhan, We're evacuation constrained. 406 00:55:56.130 --> 00:55:59.420 Community Hall: Oh, okay. So, so this is an amendment to say. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 407 00:56:00.020 --> 00:56:06.149 Community Hall: Perform or prioritize an evacuation road capacity assessment prior to making any roadway changes. 408 00:56:06.730 --> 00:56:09.690 Community Hall: That… For the limit roadway capacity. 409 00:56:10.110 --> 00:56:11.090 Community Hall: Indy. 410 00:56:11.980 --> 00:56:15.360 Community Hall: Corridors identified as evacuation constrained. 411 00:56:16.610 --> 00:56:25.589 Community Hall: Do I have a second? In… in which, policy number were you looking at that change? I believe that's 2.11.7, Vacation Constraint Corridors. 412 00:56:28.350 --> 00:56:36.139 Community Hall: Do you wanna… Mine ends at 211-515 as prioritization. Right. Can you project it, please? 413 00:56:37.500 --> 00:56:42.059 Community Hall: Video, can you project the staff monitor, please? I only see mine going up to 5. 414 00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:50.470 Community Hall: Yeah, so… evacuation of Ernest. 415 00:56:51.690 --> 00:56:52.890 Community Hall: Can we scroll down? 416 00:56:56.970 --> 00:57:01.150 Community Hall: Yeah, so without getting specific here, how can we add a… 417 00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:05.650 Community Hall: Recommendation to basically look at prioritizing 418 00:57:05.900 --> 00:57:09.210 Community Hall: Capacity analysis prior to any roadway changes. 419 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 00:57:10.140 --> 00:57:15.830 Community Hall: I don't want to get too… Can I ask a clarification question? I mean, isn't that gonna happen anyway? 420 00:57:17.670 --> 00:57:28.830 Community Hall: That's what we were imagining, that, you know, when you identify… when we've identified the evacuation constraint routes, that any changes that would occur in those segments 421 00:57:29.190 --> 00:57:32.890 Community Hall: Would have to go through that analysis anyway. 422 00:57:34.780 --> 00:57:37.960 Community Hall: Yeah, so I would like to make this motion to… 423 00:57:38.410 --> 00:57:44.210 Community Hall: include a policy in… and I'll keep it high level, to include a policy in 2.11. 424 00:57:44.830 --> 00:57:50.049 Community Hall: So… Prioritize an evacuation capacity analysis. 425 00:57:50.260 --> 00:57:54.129 Community Hall: When any roadway changes are proposed for corridors. 426 00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:58.740 Community Hall: That have an evacuation… 427 00:57:59.970 --> 00:58:05.159 Community Hall: What is the term? That have an evacuation capacity constraint currently identified. 428 00:58:06.060 --> 00:58:13.190 Community Hall: Would something like maybe a reference… To the evacuation study, where… 429 00:58:14.130 --> 00:58:24.619 Community Hall: your prioritization would be based on the corridors that have the most constrained vehicle-to-capacity ratio, I think is where you're going, so to… 430 00:58:25.550 --> 00:58:29.930 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: I think to maybe have something to say consistent with the evacuation study. 431 00:58:30.240 --> 00:58:40.200 Community Hall: and reference, say, dated October 2025, since that's already part of this element by incorporation. 432 00:58:40.390 --> 00:58:42.690 Community Hall: I think that would refer people back 433 00:58:43.250 --> 00:58:47.730 Community Hall: to be able to identify which of the corridors were most constrained. 434 00:58:49.460 --> 00:58:50.939 Community Hall: That's fine with me. 435 00:58:52.110 --> 00:58:58.229 Community Hall: Did staff want to offer up a motion? Well, can I ask a clarification here? 436 00:58:59.030 --> 00:59:14.919 Community Hall: So, it… I mean, that's kind of like saying, you know, take the rest of this document into account when you're doing this implementation. That kind of applies to every single piece of this document, is to say, consider every other piece of this document, so I'm not really sure 437 00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:27.010 Community Hall: what this adds to… to our understanding, or how it changes anything, in terms of how this would be implemented. Question to the City Attorney. May we make the motion and see if we have a second before we take discussion comments? 438 00:59:29.750 --> 00:59:31.190 Community Hall: Yes, thank you. 439 00:59:31.850 --> 00:59:41.030 Community Hall: Can you repeat exactly what you want to add? So, the motion was to prioritize a evacuation capacity analysis. 440 00:59:41.810 --> 00:59:50.270 Community Hall: For any roadway changes proposed that reduce capacity of currently evacuation-constrained corridors. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 441 00:59:51.510 --> 00:59:54.039 Community Hall: And Luke had an amendment to that. 442 00:59:54.390 --> 00:59:57.850 Community Hall: I'm open to his amendment, if I can see some suggested text. 443 00:59:58.730 --> 00:59:59.400 Community Hall: I… 444 00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:22.550 Community Hall: So I'm willing to second it, but I would be curious if we feel that the existing language already kind of covers this. So HS2.11 says, ensure that evacuation routes into and out of the city have adequate capacity, safety, and viability in the event of an emergency, and I generally think that's what we're talking about. Yeah, so this is different in that when there are roadway changes proposed. 445 01:00:23.160 --> 01:00:27.320 Community Hall: in these corridors, the proposal here is to require 446 01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:40.240 Community Hall: a capacity analysis prior to making those roadway changes. So, if I… if I could just comment, I think that the problem is that if you do that, if you had that specific wording, then that implies that there would be ones that would not be subject. 447 01:00:40.350 --> 01:00:46.810 Community Hall: And that's something that… there are no exclusions right now in the current document as it's presented, so it's actually better that way. 448 01:00:47.500 --> 01:01:01.220 Community Hall: you know, it's up to the… it's up to the City Council, or, you know, the staff can make a recommendation as to what… what is the threshold. It's up to the City Council to enforce that, but they would do that in the municipal code rather than in this… in this policy document. 449 01:01:02.110 --> 01:01:08.260 Community Hall: So we might actually broaden the language. That's a good point. Thank you, Commissioner Fung. So we might further broaden the language, then, to say. 450 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 01:01:09.790 --> 01:01:15.189 Community Hall: Consider prioritizing evacuation capacity analysis. 451 01:01:15.980 --> 01:01:21.690 Community Hall: on any changes made to Cupertino roadways that impact the capacity of the roadways. 452 01:01:22.330 --> 01:01:26.839 Community Hall: without… Without limiting it to the corridors, to your point. 453 01:01:29.660 --> 01:01:47.680 Community Hall: Yeah, I would support that. I think the part that I was getting held up over was the idea of having to perform an additional analysis, which I don't know that we can mandate, but I think if what you're saying is consistent with what Luke was saying, is just the idea that they're taking into account the evacuation study. 454 01:01:48.190 --> 01:01:50.880 Community Hall: Yeah, it's not a mandate, but it's a recommendation. 455 01:01:51.530 --> 01:01:55.579 Community Hall: So, is your concern mainly lane removals on roads? 456 01:01:55.710 --> 01:02:01.529 Community Hall: It could be any form of impact that reduces the… 457 01:02:02.020 --> 01:02:11.730 Community Hall: capacity of the corridors. I was going to suggest evacuation-constrained corridors, but Commissioner Fung believes that may actually 458 01:02:12.090 --> 01:02:19.300 Community Hall: Loosen policy on the remaining roads, and therefore, we may suggest this for any corridor changes. Okay. 459 01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:21.589 Community Hall: But we were only losing that. 460 01:02:22.200 --> 01:02:29.269 Community Hall: the discretion because we were making a detail. So, I would just say that it's better to not… not make a modification here. 461 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 01:02:29.420 --> 01:02:32.939 Community Hall: I mean, the, the, the policy that, that, 462 01:02:33.210 --> 01:02:36.960 Community Hall: that the assistant director recommended, that would have been what we would have done. 463 01:02:37.600 --> 01:02:40.650 Community Hall: Had we not amended the document. 464 01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:48.399 Community Hall: Yeah, I think there's significant concern around fire evacuation, and I think that we need to raise the bar on this, so I'm gonna… 465 01:02:49.210 --> 01:02:53.680 Community Hall: Make the motion to… consider 466 01:02:54.550 --> 01:03:00.310 Community Hall: Did staff have something written up? I don't know if staff wants to project if you have something written up. 467 01:03:03.830 --> 01:03:21.630 Community Hall: I have something written out, but, it's your words, which are prioritize the evacuation capacity analysis for any roadway changes on evacuation-constrained corridors as identified in the October 2025 evacuation. Could you share screen, please? Thank you for writing it up. 468 01:04:07.260 --> 01:04:25.990 Community Hall: Yeah, so, I… again, I think this is not too dissimilar from the insure evacuation routes into and out of the city, out of capacity. That said, I'm happy to second it. I think it's… So, I think the one change I would make here in the language for… it's saying for any roadway changes, I would say for any roadway changes that 469 01:04:26.460 --> 01:04:28.140 Community Hall: That reduce capacity. 470 01:04:30.590 --> 01:04:39.120 Community Hall: So, if I can comment, I think this is already addressed in HS2.11.1, where it says, 471 01:04:39.230 --> 01:04:40.590 Community Hall: And I quote… Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 472 01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:56.659 Community Hall: Continue to coordinate with emergency responders, the county, and Caltrans to ensure evacuation routes are designed and maintained to remain accessible during emergency evacuations, and to ensure that changes to roadways continue to maintain adequate emergency ingress and egress. 473 01:04:56.660 --> 01:05:03.600 Community Hall: I mean, that's… that's even broader than what you're suggesting, so it doesn't… I… I don't think this, 474 01:05:03.680 --> 01:05:10.610 Community Hall: serves any purpose whatsoever. Sorry, could we get a motion and a second on the table first, before we discuss? 475 01:05:11.590 --> 01:05:16.629 Community Hall: Do we have a second? I already sent you. I think we did. Okay, so we have a motion and a second. 476 01:05:17.130 --> 01:05:23.110 Community Hall: And if we want to share that policy that you're referring to, Or… 477 01:05:23.350 --> 01:05:33.300 Community Hall: What was the policy again? Video, can you share my screen? And I will just, if I may, Chair, just to clarify, this policy, 211.1 was actually 478 01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:48.620 Community Hall: edited and added, I believe, as a result of the comments that we received. Specifically, a little bit to touch upon what Commissioner Rao is talking about, about, roadway changes, and so that was added in at, 479 01:05:48.620 --> 01:05:53.780 Community Hall: after the first City Council study session to address those issues. 480 01:05:56.720 --> 01:05:59.070 Community Hall: Yeah, so the language here says. 481 01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:04.609 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: Ensure changes to roadways continue to maintain adequate Emergency and GLSEN egress. 482 01:06:05.060 --> 01:06:12.150 Community Hall: The suggested change is to do a capacity analysis to understand the effects of proposed changes. 483 01:06:12.310 --> 01:06:16.749 Community Hall: Well, I think we have a motion in a second, so maybe, City Clerk, can we just take a vote on this one? 484 01:06:29.780 --> 01:06:30.650 Community Hall: I don't know. 485 01:06:30.870 --> 01:06:34.949 Community Hall: Sure. Are we seeing the vote? 486 01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:37.570 Community Hall: I guess we can't see the wood. 487 01:06:39.570 --> 01:06:44.230 Community Hall: The motion carries with Commissioner Fung and Commissioner Linskog voting no. 488 01:06:45.210 --> 01:06:46.099 Community Hall: Thank you. 489 01:06:46.210 --> 01:06:49.910 Community Hall: Alright, Commissioner Rao, did you have further motions you wanted to make? 490 01:06:50.260 --> 01:06:58.910 Community Hall: Did anyone else have any suggested changes? I know. I do. Yeah, I would like to add… 491 01:06:59.080 --> 01:07:06.820 Community Hall: on page… Let's see, it doesn't have a reference number, but it's page 6 of the draft resolution. 492 01:07:08.780 --> 01:07:18.480 Community Hall: Two more bullets, the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office's primary responsibility is the safety and security of the Cupertino community, which funds its operation. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 493 01:07:19.070 --> 01:07:32.659 Community Hall: And another bullet, the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office Deputy Serving Cupertino shall not deploy to other Santa Clara County cities without a direct request from other jurisdictions or the Santa Clara County Sheriff 494 01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:35.670 Community Hall: Except in the case of an actual emergency. 495 01:07:38.110 --> 01:07:38.950 Community Hall: Is that… 496 01:07:40.210 --> 01:07:52.400 Community Hall: Sorry, is that something that we can mandate, though, in the health and safety element? I would, you know, I understand the intent, and I support it, I'm just not sure. Okay. I would second the motion. Well… 497 01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:57.110 Community Hall: Yeah, we're not sure. The city attorney was not sure either. 498 01:07:57.310 --> 01:07:59.230 Community Hall: If we put it in, and it… 499 01:07:59.340 --> 01:08:08.419 Community Hall: has to be taken out, so be it. Yeah, these are recommendations. I would not call the bar too high. This is going to Council. Council can choose to reject it if they so choose. I would second the motion. 500 01:08:12.780 --> 01:08:16.299 Community Hall: Any further discussion? And… and I just wanted to re… 501 01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:22.519 Community Hall: Repeat the reason for this was the unfortunate incident earlier this month. 502 01:08:22.700 --> 01:08:24.850 Community Hall: Which I hope will not be repeated. 503 01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:30.900 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: Where The sheriff went to another city for a non- emergency, a fake 911 call. 504 01:08:31.180 --> 01:08:33.180 Community Hall: And in the middle of the night. 505 01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:37.200 Community Hall: And this… this is totally uncalled for, and… 506 01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:44.799 Community Hall: We just had to pay all this extra money for the new sheriff's contract, so we should be setting some parameters. 507 01:08:45.470 --> 01:09:01.259 Community Hall: Okay, so if I can just comment on this, I don't think any of us know whether it was a real or fake call, because none of us were involved in… it was neat… none of our homes, none of us made the phone call, none of us were involved in any way, so I would keep those judgments. 508 01:09:01.330 --> 01:09:02.180 Community Hall: you know… 509 01:09:02.229 --> 01:09:17.980 Community Hall: circumspect, and the Santa Clara County is their share… their jurisdiction is the entire county, and we don't know the circumstances of that call and what happened there, so, I would respectfully ask you to 510 01:09:17.979 --> 01:09:30.629 Community Hall: you know, be careful what you say. So, I would just state that we do know the exact circumstances. Thank you. So, keeping this to the topic of the proposed motion, we have a motion and a second. Can we… 511 01:09:31.010 --> 01:09:34.300 Community Hall: Does the chair have any clarifying questions, or do we vote? 512 01:09:36.510 --> 01:09:45.690 Community Hall: Well, I'm just wondering if there's a way that we can make it a little bit less specific. I think the concern is around, how… how sheriff 513 01:09:46.080 --> 01:09:52.770 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: time is used, and, you know, would you be open to something a little bit broader? Just, you know, generally, 514 01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:55.030 Community Hall: clarifying… 515 01:09:55.700 --> 01:10:13.769 Community Hall: how, sheriff is dispatched to different cities? Can you… do you mind reading your motion again, please? Okay, so the first one was… it was two bullets. I don't think the first one's controversial. The Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office's primary responsibility is the safety and security. 516 01:10:13.930 --> 01:10:20.349 Community Hall: of the Cupertino community, which funds its operation. And just to point out, this is separate. 517 01:10:20.730 --> 01:10:40.159 Community Hall: from the overall sheriff, which can go anywhere in the county, which we all fund. And then the second is the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office deputies serving Cupertino shall not deploy to other Santa Clara County cities without a direct request from the other jurisdictions, or the Santa Clara County Sheriff. 518 01:10:40.270 --> 01:10:43.009 Community Hall: Except in the case of an actual emergency. 519 01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:50.730 Community Hall: If you want to modify that, you know. 520 01:10:51.250 --> 01:10:52.060 Community Hall: Fine. 521 01:10:52.550 --> 01:10:55.550 Community Hall: I don't think the first bullet is controversial. 522 01:10:57.120 --> 01:11:02.310 Community Hall: Yeah, I think I'm… I'm open to accepting the… 523 01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:06.679 Community Hall: First, if we can vote on the first and the second separately. 524 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 01:11:06.890 --> 01:11:09.190 Community Hall: Sorry, what was the… I'm losing this now. 525 01:11:09.460 --> 01:11:11.089 Community Hall: What was the first and second? 526 01:11:12.230 --> 01:11:20.040 Community Hall: Okay, the first one… is… And I guess we should change this a little bit. The… Santa… 527 01:11:20.390 --> 01:11:23.889 Community Hall: Clara County Sheriff's Office in Cupertino. 528 01:11:25.380 --> 01:11:34.750 Community Hall: Primary responsibility, Is the safety… and security of the Cupertino community, which funds its operation. 529 01:11:37.020 --> 01:11:45.829 Community Hall: Yes, I'd like… I would prefer to separate the first and the second. Oh, do you have anything that you want to put for the second, or you want to just eliminate it entirely? 530 01:11:46.070 --> 01:11:56.429 Community Hall: Well, I have some hesitations. I'm just not… I think we need to better understand how dispatch works, but if a call originates from one city, then, you know, it may… 531 01:11:56.960 --> 01:12:09.599 Community Hall: makes sense that it is that city that goes to address it. So I just… I don't know that I understand this well enough to… so through the chair, I think this is a policy recommendation. 532 01:12:09.870 --> 01:12:15.249 Community Hall: I think we probably don't want to get into execution and operations on the policy. The question is. 533 01:12:15.410 --> 01:12:24.600 Community Hall: Can we vote on the motion? Do we have clarifying questions on the motion? Yes. Because either way, we should take the vote. My preference would be… I would just comment it… 534 01:12:24.770 --> 01:12:30.829 Community Hall: If this is not an operational comment. I can't believe… then there isn't such a thing. This isn't policy. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 535 01:12:32.220 --> 01:12:35.249 Community Hall: I would prefer to vote on the first separately, please. 536 01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:38.370 Community Hall: Can we get a second for the modified motion? 537 01:12:39.650 --> 01:12:44.870 Community Hall: Sorry, was the… was the originator of the motion accepting the amendment? 538 01:12:46.430 --> 01:12:49.870 Community Hall: I'm willing to vote on the first one separately. 539 01:12:51.240 --> 01:13:01.639 Community Hall: So, to clarify, the first one is just a definition of what the Santa Clara County is… Right, right. The first one is the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office in Cupertino's primary responsibility 540 01:13:01.970 --> 01:13:07.689 Community Hall: is the safety and security of the Cupertino community, which funds its operation. 541 01:13:08.580 --> 01:13:11.869 Community Hall: Well… Do we even need to vote on that? I mean… 542 01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:26.880 Community Hall: I don't know what we're voting on. Well, apparently, someone believes it's not their primary responsibility, and that's why we had this situation. Yeah, no, I… It's just clarifying. I get the second part, but the first part is sort of… it's not a vote-worthy 543 01:13:27.100 --> 01:13:28.979 Community Hall: Let's just combine the two and vote on it. 544 01:13:31.540 --> 01:13:46.749 Community Hall: I mean, the first part isn't really a motion, right? It's… it's just stating the obvious. He's asking for… Right, it is stating the obvious, but I think it has to be stated. It is not explicitly stated in the health and safety element at the moment. Okay, right. All right, let's vote. Okay, so vote on the first one. 545 01:13:47.120 --> 01:13:48.130 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: The first bullet. 546 01:13:48.570 --> 01:13:53.880 Community Hall: So we're voting on the original motion, or just the first bullet? The first… the new motion… 547 01:13:53.980 --> 01:14:13.629 Community Hall: is just the first bullet. Can I get a second for the motion? So, just to be clear, I think Commissioner Scharf made a motion to have two parts, and there was a friendly amendment to remove the second one and just maintain the first one. Correct. And I think Commissioner Scharf was okay with that, and now is the seconder okay with that? 548 01:14:13.790 --> 01:14:22.780 Community Hall: Oh. Yeah, go… yeah, it's fine, and then we can move on to the second one. Yeah, we're not removing the second, we're just voting one. Right. 549 01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:31.080 Community Hall: And who was the seconder for the motion? 550 01:14:31.290 --> 01:14:33.310 Community Hall: It was, Commissioner Rao. Oh. 551 01:14:34.200 --> 01:14:34.870 Community Hall: Wow. 552 01:14:36.420 --> 01:14:38.959 Community Hall: Come on, baby. 553 01:14:40.070 --> 01:14:42.900 Community Hall: The motion carries, with Commissioner Fung voting no. 554 01:14:43.900 --> 01:14:47.229 Community Hall: Okay, so now moving on to the next bullet. 555 01:14:47.550 --> 01:14:56.020 Community Hall: How can we… Do something to prevent… say something that will prevent 556 01:14:56.110 --> 01:15:10.110 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: the kind of incident that happened. So, so, just staying on the policy language, I believe you had language, could you read it again? I did. The Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office deputies serving Cupertino shall not deploy to other Santa Clara County cities 557 01:15:10.180 --> 01:15:18.720 Community Hall: without a direct request from other jurisdictions or the Santa Clara County Sheriff, except in the case of an actual emergency. 558 01:15:19.140 --> 01:15:20.550 Community Hall: Okay, second. 559 01:15:21.240 --> 01:15:23.300 Community Hall: Okay, let's just vote on it, then. 560 01:15:35.400 --> 01:15:42.890 Community Hall: The motion fails, with Chair Casolcheron abstaining, and Fung… Commissioner Fung, and Commissioner Linskog voting no. 561 01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:47.050 Community Hall: Alright, do we have any other motions? 562 01:15:47.990 --> 01:15:50.989 Community Hall: Yes. Is there anyone else that had… 563 01:15:51.340 --> 01:15:54.099 Community Hall: I can yield my time if there's someone else. 564 01:15:54.410 --> 01:15:56.040 Community Hall: Anyone else have changes? 565 01:15:56.640 --> 01:16:06.929 Community Hall: Yes, my, I would like to make a motion that we incorporate, risk of trees falling into the urban 566 01:16:07.430 --> 01:16:14.179 Community Hall: Forest Management section, which is, HS8.4.1. Is there a second? 567 01:16:15.280 --> 01:16:18.800 Community Hall: Sorry, what's the section? Hsgate.4.1. 568 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 01:16:19.770 --> 01:16:25.700 Community Hall: What is the… HS4.1, hold on. Sorry, 8.4.1. 569 01:16:26.090 --> 01:16:28.230 Community Hall: a.m.com. 570 01:16:31.470 --> 01:16:36.639 Community Hall: Is it H.4.1? HS-8.4.1. 571 01:16:37.490 --> 01:16:41.580 Community Hall: Urban Forest Management Plan. So, could you restate the motion again? 572 01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:46.510 Community Hall: Just to incorporate, addressing… 573 01:16:47.330 --> 01:16:49.919 Community Hall: Trees that are at risk of falling. 574 01:16:54.830 --> 01:17:00.169 Community Hall: So, clarifying the safety word, you mean? Because it says attention to safety? 575 01:17:00.350 --> 01:17:06.300 Community Hall: I guess, yeah, tree maintenance is included here, right? Tree maintenance? It is. I'm not sure what attention to safety means. 576 01:17:06.510 --> 01:17:16.120 Community Hall: It is that. It is that. Essentially ensuring that the trees are healthy and safe and not going to tip over. Okay, then I think that's fine, I'll withdraw my motion. 577 01:17:17.590 --> 01:17:19.079 Community Hall: Do we have any other motions? 578 01:17:19.580 --> 01:17:23.300 Community Hall: Yes, I did have several. Anyone else? 579 01:17:24.860 --> 01:17:26.410 Community Hall: No one else, just me. 580 01:17:26.770 --> 01:17:28.120 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: I could stay here all night. 581 01:17:30.230 --> 01:17:36.689 Community Hall: But, did we need to take a break? How about I make a motion that we approve the staff recommended motion? 582 01:17:37.830 --> 01:17:38.860 Community Hall: I'll second that. 583 01:17:39.330 --> 01:17:43.589 Community Hall: Sorry, just to clarify, if there are additional motions that 584 01:17:44.260 --> 01:17:53.689 Community Hall: want to be made after this? Does approving… I think there was… we made a motion. You should vote on it. Yeah, we made a motion. We have a second. Let's vote. 585 01:17:55.630 --> 01:17:59.309 Community Hall: Sorry, I'm trying to understand. So, we are still working through the discussions. 586 01:17:59.740 --> 01:18:03.859 Community Hall: But there's a motion to approve the staff recommendation. 587 01:18:04.100 --> 01:18:07.780 Community Hall: Are we allowed to work through the discussion? Is this a call the question, or… 588 01:18:09.410 --> 01:18:12.240 Community Hall: Right, if it gets passed, then it's done. 589 01:18:12.640 --> 01:18:23.039 Community Hall: You can't make more changes. I'm trying to understand, are we… are we trying to cut short discussions? If so, should it be a quality question? Apparently. Yeah, there… there's… If we… if we… if you made another motion? 590 01:18:23.460 --> 01:18:32.349 Community Hall: would we… can we discuss it or not discuss it? I don't think we have a choice. A motion has been made. Okay, let's work that. No, but I'd like to understand, so… 591 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 01:18:33.860 --> 01:18:43.190 Community Hall: If we do not accept this, then does it end up rejecting the entire health and safety element? We would continue the discussion. 592 01:18:43.340 --> 01:18:44.360 Community Hall: Right? Okay. 593 01:18:45.890 --> 01:19:04.690 Community Hall: This is a little bit unusual. I think what I'm hearing, though, is a motion to end debate. If that passes by a 4 to 5 vote, then the next motion would be to move the staff recommendation, because there's no more discussion. The only thing pending is the staff recommendation. Okay. 594 01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:06.770 Community Hall: Okay. 595 01:19:07.010 --> 01:19:12.340 Community Hall: So I… so, to Commissioner Linskog, do you want to convert your motion to end debate? 596 01:19:14.330 --> 01:19:29.030 Community Hall: So, I can't make a motion to just vote on the staff recommended action? Yeah, I don't… I don't think so. I think it's, it's if… to do that, you're effectively asking to end debate because your fellow commissioners want to continue to 597 01:19:30.190 --> 01:19:31.670 Community Hall: Discuss and debate. 598 01:19:33.220 --> 01:19:37.420 Community Hall: Sure, okay. I'll… I'll make a motion to end debate. 599 01:19:38.380 --> 01:19:42.090 Community Hall: Clarifying question to the city attorney, is that the same as call the question? 600 01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:52.100 Community Hall: It's a little bit different, because there's no question to call. If there was a motion, and there was debate on the motion, then someone can call the question. 601 01:19:52.340 --> 01:19:54.150 Community Hall: Okay, thank you for clarifying. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 602 01:19:55.880 --> 01:19:59.819 Community Hall: There's been a motion and a second. Let's vote. Okay, yes, we are voting. 603 01:20:09.250 --> 01:20:13.249 Community Hall: The motion fails, with Commissioner Fung and Commissioner Linskogg voting yes. 604 01:20:13.770 --> 01:20:16.520 Community Hall: Okay, then we will proceed with, Commissioner Rao. 605 01:20:18.120 --> 01:20:21.669 Community Hall: Okay, did anyone else have motions? Am I the only one? Yes. Okay. 606 01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:28.800 Community Hall: Okay, so I want to go back to the… The… 607 01:20:29.740 --> 01:20:32.360 Community Hall: Noise study that we talked about earlier. 608 01:20:32.830 --> 01:20:39.540 Community Hall: If we can… Make a motion to… Require. 609 01:20:40.200 --> 01:20:41.930 Community Hall: an impact analysis. 610 01:20:42.360 --> 01:20:50.360 Community Hall: On change of views on existing or new public or private facilities. 611 01:20:51.750 --> 01:20:54.229 Community Hall: I think we have a… I'll second that. 612 01:20:54.610 --> 01:21:00.200 Community Hall: Let's, I want to make sure we get the… The language right here. 613 01:21:01.170 --> 01:21:05.729 Community Hall: So, before you vote on that, Chair, I'm hearing there's a motion on the floor. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 614 01:21:06.790 --> 01:21:12.210 Community Hall: To Commissioner Linska, this may be an appropriate time to make a substitute motion. 615 01:21:14.170 --> 01:21:22.169 Community Hall: Sorry, we're still trying to understand the motion, so if you may have a minute to… I apologize, I thought you made a motion, and I thought someone seconded it. 616 01:21:22.620 --> 01:21:25.859 Community Hall: Yeah, I'm trying to… what section was that? Right. 617 01:21:26.110 --> 01:21:26.850 Community Hall: So… 618 01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.120 Community Hall: There either was or was not a motion. 619 01:21:32.930 --> 01:21:47.100 Community Hall: But it sounds like there was a motion and a second. I mean, I'm happy to make a substitute, but I don't know that the vote will be any different. Well, then I… I gave you the opportunity, just that earlier, I… I understand. I understand. Yeah. Then you don't want it, that's fine. Thank you. 620 01:21:48.850 --> 01:21:58.750 Community Hall: Okay. Okay. So… Once again, just to clarify, the motion was to… Recommend analysis. 621 01:21:59.290 --> 01:22:08.100 Community Hall: On any change of use of existing or new public… or private facilities. 622 01:22:08.980 --> 01:22:13.309 Community Hall: That may… Involve noise-generating activities. 623 01:22:13.850 --> 01:22:24.649 Community Hall: Okay, City Clerk, may we please have the vote? So, just to clarify before we do the vote, this is where the staff told us we did not need to do this, because this is already covered, correct? 624 01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:28.340 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: Correct. Thank you. 625 01:22:29.540 --> 01:22:34.660 Community Hall: Could you clarify? Okay, so this was the… the mitigation steps… 626 01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:37.799 Community Hall: Would be preceded by impact analysis, was that right? 627 01:22:38.040 --> 01:22:41.380 Community Hall: Yes, but if you wish to make that clearer, that's fine. 628 01:22:43.470 --> 01:22:45.669 Community Hall: So I'm just trying to understand. So we… 629 01:22:46.090 --> 01:22:48.709 Community Hall: Would not have a scenario of… 630 01:22:49.320 --> 01:22:53.449 Community Hall: Mitigation steps being discretionary based on staff input. 631 01:22:53.930 --> 01:22:57.270 Community Hall: Would it always be preceded by an impact analysis? 632 01:22:59.080 --> 01:22:59.980 Community Hall: Correct. 633 01:23:00.290 --> 01:23:19.790 Community Hall: You would need an analysis in order to come up with mitigations, otherwise, where would they be coming from? Okay, if it pleases the Commission, we could add the words noise analysis into this policy, rather than in some form, rather than coming up with a new policy. 634 01:23:22.280 --> 01:23:27.359 Community Hall: Yeah, so I want to go back then to the language here for… I think it's HS10.8. 635 01:23:27.830 --> 01:23:41.870 Community Hall: As it reads right now, it says, prior to approving noise- generating uses, including public or private, within or adjacent Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI established residential areas, ensure the proposed noise-generating use includes adequate noise mitigation measures. 636 01:23:42.300 --> 01:23:47.189 Community Hall: With, upon a noise impact analysis? 637 01:23:47.940 --> 01:23:54.740 Community Hall: Maybe add those words there? Maybe you could just say, proposed noise-generating uses 638 01:23:55.620 --> 01:24:04.850 Community Hall: based on an impact analysis that includes noise mitigation measures. I think what you're trying to say is that the mitigation measures came out of an analysis. Right. 639 01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:08.999 Community Hall: May I ask a hypothetical here? 640 01:24:09.610 --> 01:24:20.099 Community Hall: if I, say, lived across from a pickleball court, and I was concerned that a change… that there was a change in policy, and we added this wording, then that… would I be forced 641 01:24:20.210 --> 01:24:23.019 Community Hall: Would I potentially be forced to pay for a study? 642 01:24:24.010 --> 01:24:25.400 Community Hall: An impact study? 643 01:24:25.740 --> 01:24:28.740 Community Hall: Not you as the complainant. 644 01:24:28.890 --> 01:24:40.969 Community Hall: But the actual person applicant would have to prepare that noise report. So, stated differently, for example, if we had a commercial facility. 645 01:24:41.110 --> 01:24:44.150 Community Hall: That opened a… Pickleball Club. 646 01:24:44.400 --> 01:24:45.910 Community Hall: A private pickleball club. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 647 01:24:46.210 --> 01:24:53.540 Community Hall: You know, there are several, Pickler and so on. So if they decided to open that close to a residential area, I think we'd want to have 648 01:24:53.740 --> 01:24:58.539 Community Hall: language that ensures that an impact analysis occurs, so this is just… 649 01:24:59.070 --> 01:25:01.000 Community Hall: Tightening the language to include that. 650 01:25:02.290 --> 01:25:06.539 Community Hall: I believe there was a recommendation that was… if you may repeat that. 651 01:25:07.330 --> 01:25:09.540 Community Hall: I think the existing language says 652 01:25:09.940 --> 01:25:16.239 Community Hall: Includes adequate noise mitigation measures, as identified by an impact analysis. 653 01:25:17.930 --> 01:25:21.749 Community Hall: I'm gonna try to type this up, if you give me a second. 654 01:25:21.980 --> 01:25:29.880 Community Hall: I guess it would be this… and I would say the hypothetical is actually the same question. If I were an applicant who was looking to build the business… 655 01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:44.299 Community Hall: pickleball club, now I would be required to do an analysis. You would be required to do that today. Anyway, yes, I understand. So, can I ask another clarifying question? So, will this language revision make any difference in terms of the actions of the staff? 656 01:25:45.310 --> 01:25:46.580 Community Hall: I would say no. 657 01:25:47.090 --> 01:25:50.460 Community Hall: I mean, you typically look at impacts, you know. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 658 01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:54.260 Community Hall: what is the use gonna do, whether it's under CEQA or otherwise, and… 659 01:25:55.130 --> 01:26:08.860 Community Hall: Cupertino with a Chapter 17 built in, you generally have things that would only be done under CEQA, like we do Phase 1, Phase 2s independent of CEQA in Cupertino. Not all cities do that, so… 660 01:26:09.980 --> 01:26:12.970 Community Hall: I think this may be ensuring something more, but… 661 01:26:13.300 --> 01:26:16.470 Community Hall: I don't think it's addressing something that isn't already addressed. 662 01:26:16.700 --> 01:26:18.169 Community Hall: Okay, thank you. 663 01:26:18.900 --> 01:26:24.910 Community Hall: So I… yeah, I have one question. This says, prior to approving The noise-generating uses. 664 01:26:25.010 --> 01:26:28.790 Community Hall: What about existing noise-generating uses? 665 01:26:29.210 --> 01:26:38.030 Community Hall: already violate our noise standards? Well, they would be subject to the noise ordinance. So, everything is, so… 666 01:26:38.350 --> 01:26:42.510 Community Hall: Pickleball always seems to be the example. I… 667 01:26:43.160 --> 01:26:50.860 Community Hall: Theoretically, we don't have a private pickleball court that I'm aware of, but, the question has come up, what if somebody built a pickleball court? 668 01:26:51.530 --> 01:26:55.080 Community Hall: I think you could build it, and you could look at it. You probably just couldn't play on it. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 669 01:26:55.550 --> 01:27:02.970 Community Hall: Okay. Because you'd be in a single-family neighborhood, and you'd violate the noise ordinance. As soon as your neighbors complained, you would be above the threshold, most likely. 670 01:27:03.180 --> 01:27:11.549 Community Hall: So, but a municipal pickleball facility is allowed to generate… violate the noise ordinance, or what? 671 01:27:12.260 --> 01:27:21.480 Community Hall: Well, if I may restate to the chair, if I may restate the question, is there a way to word this so that it would apply retroactively to existing violations? 672 01:27:24.270 --> 01:27:33.100 Community Hall: I think you're getting very far afield from this document at that point. Okay, so the motion was to amend HS10.8, 673 01:27:33.430 --> 01:27:37.409 Community Hall: To include explicit language around impact analysis. 674 01:27:39.130 --> 01:27:39.820 Community Hall: Yep. 675 01:27:39.950 --> 01:27:41.339 Community Hall: I had seconded that. 676 01:27:42.570 --> 01:27:45.530 Community Hall: So, may we please have a vote? Thank you. 677 01:28:02.310 --> 01:28:04.990 Community Hall: The motion carries, with Commissioner Fung voting no. 678 01:28:06.840 --> 01:28:08.500 Community Hall: All right, Commissioner Rao? 679 01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:10.669 Community Hall: How many more emotions do you have? 680 01:28:10.940 --> 01:28:16.909 Community Hall: We could take a break, sir. We've been going for a while. I don't… does anyone else… we don't need a break, Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 681 01:28:18.010 --> 01:28:21.950 Community Hall: maybe I'd ask if you can consolidate some of your, 682 01:28:22.460 --> 01:28:25.479 Community Hall: Changes into one motion, it might be faster. 683 01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:38.300 Community Hall: Through the chair, was I to share any language? Sorry, I'm a little confused. I understood your revisions to the previous motion, so that was fine. 684 01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:48.790 Community Hall: I wanted to test if my fellow commissioners wanted to do anything about weekend construction noise. 685 01:28:48.980 --> 01:28:50.829 Community Hall: Is there any appetite for… 686 01:28:51.090 --> 01:29:01.150 Community Hall: additional policy around weekend construction noise. So, what is the current hours for weekend construction noise? I believe it's 9am to 7pm on… 687 01:29:01.280 --> 01:29:07.119 Community Hall: On weekdays. On weekends. I don't think they have weekends. No, weekdays is 7am to 7pm. 688 01:29:07.220 --> 01:29:14.929 Community Hall: It's 7am to 8 p.m. 7am to 8 p.m. on weekdays. On weekdays. And then weekends is 9am to 7pm, I believe. 689 01:29:18.450 --> 01:29:27.759 Community Hall: I'm fine with that, personally. Okay. Is that… that also… shouldn't that belong in a… that's not in the health and safety element, that should be in an ordinance, right? 690 01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:30.410 Community Hall: Now, there is a construction noise… 691 01:29:31.220 --> 01:29:36.009 Community Hall: Construction and maintenance activities of Policy 10 or 3. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 692 01:29:37.440 --> 01:29:40.970 Community Hall: So, if you want to look at the policy, I think it's 10. 693 01:29:42.230 --> 01:29:43.620 Community Hall: 10.3. 694 01:29:45.590 --> 01:29:48.380 Community Hall: Yeah, construction and maintenance activities, standard 3. 695 01:29:52.160 --> 01:29:58.449 Community Hall: Well, I guess the policy is broad enough that I don't think it stipulates any specific hours, is that right? So… 696 01:29:58.940 --> 01:30:01.300 Community Hall: We won't really change anything here. Correct. Okay. 697 01:30:04.450 --> 01:30:05.260 Community Hall: Okay. 698 01:30:17.250 --> 01:30:19.889 Community Hall: I know there was a number of freeway-related 699 01:30:20.490 --> 01:30:23.049 Community Hall: Especially around the portal area, there was some… 700 01:30:23.310 --> 01:30:25.769 Community Hall: Sound barrier, or absence of sound barrier. 701 01:30:26.060 --> 01:30:28.260 Community Hall: sound walls, I think it was 10. 702 01:30:32.080 --> 01:30:36.539 Community Hall: I believe we added, two policies, 703 01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:41.370 Community Hall: Yeah, 10.4.1. Correct, and 2. And 2. Okay. 704 01:30:41.970 --> 01:30:43.940 Community Hall: and 3. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 705 01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:46.689 Community Hall: Okay, thank you. Thank you for adding that. 706 01:30:49.440 --> 01:30:54.449 Community Hall: Okay, that's really good. I don't see any… Change the… at least not… 707 01:30:54.700 --> 01:30:56.439 Community Hall: I don't know if anyone else sees any. 708 01:30:56.600 --> 01:31:01.020 Community Hall: Nope. Are we ready to move the… or approve the, 709 01:31:01.270 --> 01:31:04.160 Community Hall: the rest of the health and safety element? 710 01:31:07.230 --> 01:31:10.910 Community Hall: Yes, there was one more around the interagency… 711 01:31:12.170 --> 01:31:16.140 Community Hall: Recommend interagency coordination for the 712 01:31:16.410 --> 01:31:21.830 Community Hall: Weed and brush abatement on adjacent county parcels and quarry parcels. 713 01:31:22.420 --> 01:31:23.650 Community Hall: Where could we? 714 01:31:25.110 --> 01:31:26.430 Community Hall: Where could we add that? 715 01:31:27.430 --> 01:31:30.409 Community Hall: I think we wanted to be a little bit more prescriptive on that. 716 01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:32.970 Community Hall: Given the violations that are being observed. 717 01:31:33.790 --> 01:31:37.869 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: Is that, section that that would… 718 01:31:39.710 --> 01:31:47.029 Community Hall: If I may ask a clarifying question, and that would be for the city to do what? 719 01:31:49.870 --> 01:31:55.949 Community Hall: Coordination, I understand. I just want to understand what the… Outcome would be of that. 720 01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:01.729 Community Hall: The outcome would be for the city to be able to 721 01:32:02.120 --> 01:32:15.020 Community Hall: request or require… so today, the city can require weed abatement inspections from the county on city land, on city parcels. However, there is no mechanism 722 01:32:15.180 --> 01:32:19.570 Community Hall: To require the same on adjacent parcels that Surround. 723 01:32:20.180 --> 01:32:27.490 Community Hall: the, Cupertino Hills. So, Quarry Hills, specifically. So, how… how may we… how may we include that? 724 01:32:28.940 --> 01:32:45.809 Community Hall: I'm not sure that the city has any authority on those parcels or properties. You know, if there are any observed violations, those would have to be reported to the fire department, and they have a website where you can report those violations. 725 01:32:46.700 --> 01:32:55.080 Community Hall: So you have other places here that talks about cross- agency, right? I'm trying to see where your language was. Around emergency services, yes. 726 01:32:56.480 --> 01:32:57.220 Community Hall: Okay. 727 01:32:58.060 --> 01:33:01.659 Community Hall: Right? Because my understanding, if you're talking about the quarry land that's unincorporated. 728 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 01:33:02.270 --> 01:33:10.430 Community Hall: Yeah, I think the other parts of the document where we're talking about interagency coordination, it's still providing a service within the city. 729 01:33:11.030 --> 01:33:20.249 Community Hall: Whereas this sounds like you would be addressing parcels that are not in the city, so they'd be beyond the scope of the document. You'd be talking about county land. 730 01:33:21.690 --> 01:33:24.630 Community Hall: I believe there are 7 parcels that are city-owned. 731 01:33:24.940 --> 01:33:28.950 Community Hall: That the quarry has. Which would be covered under this already. 732 01:33:29.450 --> 01:33:37.450 Community Hall: Yes, Heidelberg does own properties within the city, but those would be covered by this document because they're within the city of Cupertino. 733 01:33:37.710 --> 01:33:38.570 Community Hall: Okay. 734 01:33:38.890 --> 01:33:43.649 Community Hall: Yeah, so I'm just looking at your strategy on inter- jurisdictional coordination. 735 01:33:43.870 --> 01:33:50.429 Community Hall: And I'm trying to see if something like the language in HS132 could apply in the fire management 736 01:33:51.310 --> 01:33:53.609 Community Hall: I guess you have something in 1.4. 737 01:33:56.730 --> 01:34:01.859 Community Hall: So, so, how about this? Could we look at 1.4 and amend it to include 738 01:34:02.860 --> 01:34:09.459 Community Hall: Right now, it references work with the county and the Mid-Peninsula Open Space District. Can we include the quarry in this? Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 739 01:34:09.900 --> 01:34:16.680 Community Hall: Are we supposed to work with the quarry, though? I mean, we're working with the county to make sure that their lands would be… 740 01:34:17.430 --> 01:34:26.850 Community Hall: you know, fire hazard free, and that would… not just the land they own, but the land that they have jurisdiction over, which would include the quarry. Okay. 741 01:34:28.320 --> 01:34:29.080 Community Hall: Okay. 742 01:34:31.090 --> 01:34:37.610 Community Hall: Alright, very good. And then the last one was we've had a significant amount of truck noise-related 743 01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:40.959 Community Hall: Questions? Is there anything that can be added there that was… 744 01:34:41.740 --> 01:34:45.920 Community Hall: You can look at the truck noise related. We saw another section, yeah. 745 01:34:46.070 --> 01:35:01.070 Community Hall: Just, just so I may respond to that, Chair, if that's okay? We did add, I believe there were two policies that were added about truck noise. One was related to street… 746 01:35:01.300 --> 01:35:20.520 Community Hall: Actually, one policy that was added, about street signage to, you know, make sure that, we can implement signage on the streets, whether that is to restrict truck activity or what have you. Did you have a section number? Yes, it's 1073. 747 01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:42.780 Community Hall: And if it pleases the Commission, this policy could be renamed to, say, quiet hours and street signage, but the bottom line, the intent of this policy is to, A, figure out whether we can do something. 748 01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:44.529 Community Hall: to, 749 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 01:35:44.680 --> 01:36:03.279 Community Hall: implement quiet hours on these streets, and if it can be done through signage, or enforcement, or what have you, but we don't know that at this point. This is just that starting point of what can be done in the future, and that needs to be further evaluated. Yeah, thank you. So, this is, I think. 750 01:36:03.770 --> 01:36:05.710 Community Hall: HS10.7. 751 01:36:06.220 --> 01:36:09.540 Community Hall: And that's… I think it covers some of the concerns. 752 01:36:09.690 --> 01:36:11.840 Community Hall: It does not talk about weekends, however. 753 01:36:12.980 --> 01:36:25.100 Community Hall: That would be covered under the signage. I don't know that… and that would be whether those are quiet hours, whether weekends are considered quiet hours or not, and all of that discussion would happen later. 754 01:36:25.210 --> 01:36:30.510 Community Hall: It's just not something that we've evaluated or know whether it can be done at all. 755 01:36:31.280 --> 01:36:35.780 Community Hall: Yeah, I would still move to amend 10.7 to just include 756 01:36:36.410 --> 01:36:44.579 Community Hall: Where it says trucking activity hours to avoid late evening and early morning. I would just amend that to include weekends, late evening, and early morning. 757 01:36:46.690 --> 01:36:47.530 Community Hall: Minor. 758 01:36:47.930 --> 01:36:51.620 Community Hall: Minor amendment. Sorry, where are you? 10.7. 759 01:36:51.970 --> 01:36:54.319 Community Hall: A reduction of noise from trucking operations. 760 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:56.910 Community Hall: Page 83. 761 01:36:57.030 --> 01:37:01.780 Community Hall: And it was to avoid late evening, early morning. What was the change? And weekends. Okay. 762 01:37:02.850 --> 01:37:04.800 Community Hall: Alright, I'll second that. Okay. 763 01:37:05.450 --> 01:37:06.710 Community Hall: It's a minor change. 764 01:37:08.470 --> 01:37:18.440 Community Hall: Oh, so I have one more change. Do we want to vote on that one first, or what? Yeah, let's do that. Okay, so was that… was the change related to the same section? No. 765 01:37:19.630 --> 01:37:23.819 Community Hall: Was there other changes from this section around trucking-related noise? 766 01:37:24.830 --> 01:37:26.080 Community Hall: Anyone else, or… 767 01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:27.690 Community Hall: Nope. 768 01:37:28.860 --> 01:37:31.680 Community Hall: So, City Clerk, may you please have the vote? Thank you. 769 01:37:37.920 --> 01:37:40.729 Community Hall: The motion carries with Commissioner Fung voting no. 770 01:37:41.130 --> 01:37:46.830 Community Hall: Okay, Vice Chair? Okay, this goes back to the Chair's, 771 01:37:47.390 --> 01:37:50.699 Community Hall: Statement earlier about the Urban Forest Management Plan. 772 01:37:51.100 --> 01:37:55.920 Community Hall: So I would like to add… Another line at the end. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 773 01:37:57.480 --> 01:38:01.269 Community Hall: That says, to encourage the removal of non-native trees. 774 01:38:02.260 --> 01:38:07.459 Community Hall: And the reason for this… I don't know how many people remember what happened during 775 01:38:07.600 --> 01:38:13.679 Community Hall: A storm a few years ago where eucalyptus tree blew over an alpine road, killed someone in their car. 776 01:38:14.070 --> 01:38:24.119 Community Hall: And… It's… The non-native trees, Pose a danger, even when you don't realize that they pose a danger. 777 01:38:24.250 --> 01:38:30.769 Community Hall: No one thought it would blow over in a big wind, but it did. It killed someone inside their truck. 778 01:38:31.180 --> 01:38:32.599 Community Hall: And I think we… 779 01:38:33.050 --> 01:38:44.219 Community Hall: we should really be encouraging the removal of the non- native trees. Vice Chair, would redwood trees then be encouraged to be removed? No. Redwood trees are non-native, right? 780 01:38:45.480 --> 01:38:57.500 Community Hall: Yeah, I was curious what your definition of non-native is. I would hate to remove back to the issue of native, non-native, we could be here really late. Right, how about we just put in eucalyptus, then? 781 01:38:57.500 --> 01:39:08.039 Community Hall: That might be… there's probably about 500 different types of eucalyptus, some of which most people wouldn't know are eucalyptus, so I'm… But it's not telling people… 782 01:39:08.040 --> 01:39:10.860 Community Hall: to remove them on their own property. This is on… 783 01:39:11.150 --> 01:39:14.789 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: City property, where the city's at risk if something happens. 784 01:39:17.080 --> 01:39:29.220 Community Hall: I think that's where, you know, I had originally been going with my first ask around, you know, removing trees that are at risk of falling, and we had decided that it was already covered under that safety phrase. 785 01:39:29.660 --> 01:39:32.039 Community Hall: Okay, how about you put that back then? 786 01:39:32.140 --> 01:39:38.179 Community Hall: explicitly. I think the safety phrase covers that. The safety phrase covers that already. 787 01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:51.859 Community Hall: Yeah, maybe we better not put that in, because that would actually increase our liability if we did that, and something happened. And if I may, I mean, through the process of development of that urban forest. 788 01:39:51.890 --> 01:40:01.340 Community Hall: what is it called? Urban Forest Management Plan? Those… any and all comments will be, you know, accepted from the public, and this could be part of that discussion. 789 01:40:01.720 --> 01:40:02.919 Community Hall: at that time. 790 01:40:04.110 --> 01:40:05.849 Community Hall: Okay, then I withdraw that. 791 01:40:06.300 --> 01:40:09.430 Community Hall: Yeah, I did want to raise another… sorry, could I? 792 01:40:10.230 --> 01:40:14.139 Community Hall: So, we're having this freeway traffic cutting through our city. 793 01:40:14.310 --> 01:40:17.440 Community Hall: Through the Fort Hill corridor and Stevens 3 Corridor. 794 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 01:40:17.850 --> 01:40:21.669 Community Hall: And I believe you have some traffic calming-related items, right? 795 01:40:21.810 --> 01:40:23.320 Community Hall: I think it was 10 dot. 796 01:40:24.030 --> 01:40:24.940 Community Hall: Six? 797 01:40:26.140 --> 01:40:27.019 Community Hall: Is that right? 798 01:40:28.210 --> 01:40:31.430 Community Hall: 10. Yeah, 10.6, Traffic Calming Solutions. 799 01:40:34.120 --> 01:40:35.599 Community Hall: Is that anything more? 800 01:40:36.140 --> 01:40:42.170 Community Hall: comprehensive, then… As stated, I don't think there's actually any change in the language here. 801 01:40:42.580 --> 01:40:51.800 Community Hall: You're talking about the noise element, that doesn't, you know, cut through traffic, doesn't necessarily… Belong in that section. 802 01:40:57.210 --> 01:41:01.939 Community Hall: So the question was, is there a different section where we can recommend 803 01:41:02.250 --> 01:41:06.139 Community Hall: Traffic calming solutions to freeway cut through traffic. 804 01:41:06.320 --> 01:41:10.009 Community Hall: In the mobility element, yes. Okay. 805 01:41:10.530 --> 01:41:15.580 Community Hall: Which we don't have today, and likely we will have no budget to get to. 806 01:41:16.190 --> 01:41:20.580 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: Most likely not. Okay, so is there anything within the scope of this section? 807 01:41:21.290 --> 01:41:25.079 Community Hall: That we are looking at in the health and safety element, because… 808 01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:31.469 Community Hall: It does create a fair amount of smoke pollution with all the freeway traffic. I don't know if anybody's seen 809 01:41:31.910 --> 01:41:36.490 Community Hall: The evening traffic on Foothill and Stevens Creek, it's all the freeway traffic cutting through the city. 810 01:41:37.350 --> 01:41:39.610 Community Hall: Not to my knowledge, in this section. 811 01:41:42.470 --> 01:41:47.179 Community Hall: Any ideas from other commissioners around traffic coming? 812 01:41:49.570 --> 01:41:50.689 Community Hall: Given a better wall. 813 01:41:54.630 --> 01:41:56.060 Community Hall: Okay. Thanks. 814 01:41:56.190 --> 01:41:58.649 Community Hall: I don't have any other changes. 815 01:41:59.140 --> 01:42:04.600 Community Hall: All right, so, we will… do we have a motion to approve the… So moved. 816 01:42:06.200 --> 01:42:09.120 Community Hall: All right, and… Was that a second? Okay, second. 817 01:42:11.210 --> 01:42:14.460 Community Hall: All right, City Clerk, maybe please have the vote. Thank you. 818 01:42:21.750 --> 01:42:23.810 Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI Community Hall: The motion carries unanimously. 819 01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:36.590 Community Hall: Okay, thank you very much. So, we… and that was a great discussion, thank you, everyone, for your patience. We will move on to staff and commission reports. Do we have any staff reports? 820 01:42:36.830 --> 01:42:40.059 Community Hall: I actually do not have much to share at this point. 821 01:42:40.390 --> 01:42:42.590 Community Hall: Do we have any commission reports? 822 01:42:45.510 --> 01:42:50.719 Community Hall: All right, then we'll move to future agenda setting. Do we have any future agenda setting items? 823 01:42:53.540 --> 01:42:59.129 Community Hall: I wanted to check if the data center ordinance was already proposed as a future agenda item. I can… 824 01:42:59.480 --> 01:43:02.080 Community Hall: recall if it is in this TPD list or not. 825 01:43:03.150 --> 01:43:20.440 Community Hall: It's my understanding that there's an informational memo that has been requested by Mayor Moore, and that will be sent out soon, and probably in the next 30 days? I'd like to propose, since this isn't showing up in the list, I'd like to propose a study session for a data center ordinance. 826 01:43:22.070 --> 01:43:23.680 Community Hall: Okay. Do I have a second? 827 01:43:25.550 --> 01:43:29.710 Community Hall: Yeah, I thought we did too, but it's not showing in the upcoming 828 01:43:30.260 --> 01:43:43.660 Community Hall: This is not a TBD list, this is only the list of projects that will be heard by the Commission in the upcoming… Yeah, I'm pretty sure we voted on that one already. And I don't have the TBD list in front of me, but if it is on there, then it is on there. Fair. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI 829 01:43:43.900 --> 01:43:59.580 Community Hall: have the list. We can always add it again. I don't… yeah. I remember, because you and I voted for it. Okay, hopefully it's there. Okay. I think it may have been a little different. My recollection was you had something very specific about data centers, 830 01:43:59.780 --> 01:44:03.949 Community Hall: And this is a more generic, 831 01:44:04.510 --> 01:44:11.209 Community Hall: Well, if you have something, that's okay, I think we can always… That's fine. I'm hoping that will come up at some point, but… 832 01:44:11.310 --> 01:44:12.070 Community Hall: Alright. 833 01:44:12.170 --> 01:44:12.970 Community Hall: Okay. 834 01:44:14.360 --> 01:44:19.630 Community Hall: All right, if, without any future other further agenda- setting items, we will adjourn the meeting. Youtube and Zoom Transcript https://youtu.be/pMe0EDdcVqY?si=l1bP7-40ty7U3bsI