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Quinlan Conf Room: Let's get the one, it gets the…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Bicycle and
Pedestrian Permission Meeting.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Today is September 16, 2026, and I call this meeting
to order at 7pm, and ask staff to proceed with a roll call, please.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Chair Erichelbeck? Here.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Vice Chair Madhupatla? Yeah.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Commissioner Ganga?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Commissioner Marcy? Here.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Commissioner Wolf? Here.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Commissioner Ganga?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Here.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We can go to the next step. Wonderful, thank you so
much. That takes us to the first item on the agenda tonight, which is the
approval of the meeting minutes from
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Quinlan Conf Room: our August 19, meeting. We have received the draft,
Minutes with our packet.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And I wanted to see if we have either some comments,
clarifications, or a motion to approve.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And it's from August 19th.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I'll make the motion to approve.
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Quinlan Conf Room: August… Commission meeting minutes. Wonderful, thank
you. We have a… we have a motion to approve. Do we have a second tonight?
A second.
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Quinlan Conf Room: In a second, let's do a… Vote on the meeting minutes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: for the motion to approve the August 19, 2026 Bicycle
Pedestrian Commission minutes. How do you owe Vice Chair… Vice Chair…
Chair Richel back? Yes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And Vice Chair Mudiupatla?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Commissioner Ganga? Yes. Commissioner Marci?
Commissioner Wolf? Yes. Motion passed 5-0.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Wonderful, thank you. Do we have any postponements
tonight? No postponements. No postponements tonight?
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Quinlan Conf Room: This takes us now to our oral communication. Oral
communication is reserved for topics and persons wishing to speak on
topics that are not on the agenda tonight.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So anything that's not on the agenda coming forward
would be open for discussion. Do we have any oral communications, either
online or in person here?
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Quinlan Conf Room: We have one remote speaker, Nori.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Welcome, Nori. Welcome, Nori.
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Nori: Hi. Thank you very much for this opportunity. Can you hear me?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yes, I can. Go ahead, please.
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Nori: I'm not so sure if I could speak this issue in this community
meeting, or I need to talk to Public Works.
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Nori: I emailed all of you the photo of the bicycle lane barrier
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Nori: Odia, I hope you could look at it.
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Nori: Those are located in front of the Cupertino Union School District
Operations Center on Forest Avenue and the Vista Drive near Lozo Middle
School.
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Nori: There are many concrete barriers on Stevens Creek now. The bicycle
lane barrier is great for protecting cyclists.
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Nori: However, it is hard to… for driver to right turn without hitting or
scratching the real right tire.
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Nori: I often drive on Stevens Creek.
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Nori: put them, choose the waterboard, and turn right at the Blaney
Avenue.
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Nori: The concrete barrier is low, and we cannot see the sharp edge of
the barrier when turned.
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Nori: It even hurts at night.
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Nori: We have to drive very slowly and drive forward enough to clear the
edge.
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Nori: Many people ordered a scratch, or even cut the tire.
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Nori: There are a black marking on the edge of the barrier already. There
are many different barriers in each city.
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Nori: The middle big barrier in front of the Cupertino Union School
District Operations Center is ideal. It is heavy duty, protect the bike
crest.
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Nori: And visible for drivers.
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Nori: The meadow post should be done on Stevens Creek, like El Camino, In
Mountain View.
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Nori: Rather than the low, high, low… Concrete, sharp edge barrier.
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Nori: Thank you very much for listening.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you so much, Nori, for your comment. We will
definitely look into this as one of our future upcoming meetings there.
Thank you.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Any other, oral communication topics tonight? We have
no remaining speakers, Chair. Excellent, thank you. That takes us to… I
don't think we have any old business, I don't believe so, takes us into
new business, which is item number two on the agenda tonight.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And the first, this item number two is, around Vision
Zero Action Plan. It's the annual report update that I think we're
receiving from Matt's presentation tonight.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Vision Zero.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Alright, update.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yes. And once it's set up…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Confie, do you think I can subscribe? Yeah. Okay.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay.
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Quinlan Conf Room: All right, good evening, Commission. I'm going to be
providing an update on the Vision Zero Action Plan. This is the annual
report that's, required as part of the Vision Zero Action Plan, which was
adopted by Council in 2024.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So… The Vision Zero Action Plan has the stated goal of
achieving zero, KSIs, so…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Serious or fatal injuries, killed or serious injury
collisions by 2040. In terms of relevant projects or things that have
started since the plan's adoption in 2024,
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Quinlan Conf Room: Stevens Creek 2A, the Lawson Middle School Bikeway,
installing speed radar feedback signs as part of the city's HCIP grant,
as well as, putting in high frick surface pavement to just
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Quinlan Conf Room: Kind of make it so that vehicles, don't have as many
rear-end collisions.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We also began development of the Active Transportation
Plan, which was a implementable action, included within the Vision Zero
Action Plan. And we also, lowered speed limits on McClellan, Blaney,
Mary, Bubb, and Prospect Road.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, when the plan was being developed, in order to
develop the high-injury Network, you need a 10-year data set, so…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Work on the plan began in 2023, which meant that the
necessary data was going to be 2012 to 2021.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, this, annual report looks at the years following
that 10-year data set.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then due to, kind of a one-year lapse in reporting
from the state and making sure that the collision data is QC'd
thoroughly, that's why this Vision Zero annual report is coming this year
as opposed to last year.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So the annual report is supposed to do a couple of
things. It's gonna look at,
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Quinlan Conf Room: trends, comparing it to what's in the action plan, and
then evaluate the city's progress towards achieving that 2040 goal.
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Quinlan Conf Room: The main focus, of the plan, again, is those KSIs, so
those killed or serious injuries, and here's a high-level overview of how
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Quinlan Conf Room: 2022 to 2025, compared to the baseline that's included
in the plan. So, for the last few years, we've seen a decrease in injury
collisions, a slight increase in KSIs.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Our vulnerable roadway users, so our bikes and peds,
are…
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Quinlan Conf Room: a greater population of those KSIs than they were in
the Vision Zero Action Plan. But the KSIs are not as concentrated around
the intersections, although injury collisions generally are about the
same.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, while KSIs at intersections are about 65%, injury
collisions are still over 80%.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then, as was the case in the Vision Zero Action
Plan, speeding is the primary cause of all collisions, and we'll go into
the different primary collision factors for the different roadway users
as well.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, just a map here showing collisions by all modes,
as well as highlighting where we have those KSIs. So, severe collisions
are shown with these crosses.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Fatalities are shown, with these small circles, gray
circles. We had 5 fatalities over the period that we're looking at.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And we had…
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Quinlan Conf Room: kind of a collision pattern that really resembled what
was identified as the high injury network. So, what remained true was
that Stevens Creek is still the most problematic roadway, and the
intersection of Homestead and De Anza, as well as Stevens Creek and De
Anza, are the top two intersections.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So here we are, looking at the reported, collision
factor here. This is looking just at the KSIs, which is the focus of the
ZRA action plan. Unsafe speed accounted for the most, collisions, then
improper turning, and different right-of-way violations.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, as I mentioned, our vulnerable roadway users
account for more than 70% of these KSIs. You can see here, 2022, 7 out of
10, 6 out of 7 the following, 5 out of 8, 6 out of 9 this last year.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And I know this map is going to be a little kind of
challenging, so I'll explain it here. The bicycle heat map that's below
the pedestrian heat map is kind of enlarged, so those areas aren't
exactly
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Quinlan Conf Room: they're shown visually greater than they actually are,
just so that you can see them, with the Pedestrian heat map overlaid on
top. So you can see, when looking at this, that, you know, the pedestrian
collisions kind of map well to where the bike collisions are occurring.
So there's
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Quinlan Conf Room: a high concentration of both bike and ped collisions
here at Stevens Creek and De Anza, as well as at Homestead and De Anza.
And then, again, you see just, the frequency of collisions that are
occurring along Stevens Creek, from Foothill, all the way to Tantau.
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Quinlan Conf Room: The bike collisions, kind of spotty in areas, and
because we have about…
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Quinlan Conf Room: I wanna say 30-ish. What you're looking at here in
terms of the intensity of the heat map, these dots really represent a
single collision.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then when you get more clusters, so this is about
3 collisions, and the attachment that's in
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Quinlan Conf Room: The staff report, has the individual points mapped to
them.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But the takeaway here is that the locations that are
problematic for the bikes tend to also be problematic for the Peds.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, when honing in here and looking at what is
actually causing these collisions for different roadway users, bicyclists
are more at risk for improper turning, kind of similarly with
pedestrians, and this is just now the left side of the all-injury table
here, or the column.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Improper turning accounts for 30% of all the bicycle
injuries, and then automobile right-of-way violations, so that would be
improper turning, failing to yield to cyclists, and then unsafe speed at
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Quinlan Conf Room: Sorry, I don't know. There shouldn't be a decimal
there, I was rounding up.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And… but interesting, so when you come over here and
you look at the KSIs, actually unsaved speed accounts for nearly 70% of
the bike KSIs, where it's not really represented over here in the injury
collisions, which just goes to show
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Quinlan Conf Room: importance of addressing speed when it comes to
reducing bicycle KSIs. But improper turning is also present.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, these two collision factors are fairly similar.
And then automobile right-way violation.
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Quinlan Conf Room: For pedestrians, it's a right-of-way thing again, both
for just the injury collisions as well as, the KSIs.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then… For the motorists, it's traffic signal and
signs. So,
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Quinlan Conf Room: Not yielding when they should, and then unsafe speed,
so traveling too fast, rear-ending vehicles is a common collision.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But again, as you can see here on the KSIs, we had 12
KSIs for bikes, 12 KSIs for heads, and then 10 for motorists, which just
highlights that our vulnerable roadway users are over-representative… are
overrepresented in the share of KSIs.
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Quinlan Conf Room: then looking at the Vision Zero Action Plan's High
Injury Network,
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Quinlan Conf Room: it remains relevant. This is just the KSIs, not our
collisions here, so most of the KSIs occurred at Steam Creek.
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Quinlan Conf Room: They occurred on De Anza and at Homestead. Really, the
Homestead and De Anza Boulevard intersection has a high concentration of
these, as well as the Stevens Creek and De Anza intersection.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, one thing I wanted to highlight here, in addition
to, kind of…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Meeting the collision data from the state and the
sheriff and working to refine that and improve the data collection
process. One thing we are beginning to do is look to third-party data
sources to kind of better understand where active transportation is
actually occurring.
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Quinlan Conf Room: One resource that we are gonna be looking at and
exploring and referencing is Strava Metro, so…
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Quinlan Conf Room: I'm sure all of you are familiar with Strava. Strava
Metro is a product that they have available to researchers and local
governments, folks that are working on active transportation work, which
just makes everyone's activity data visible to those with access to
Strava Metro.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, we'll be able to see where our recreational biking
trip's happening. It's also broken out, you can't really see down here,
but we'll be able to tell, whoops.
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Quinlan Conf Room: What day of week being the most recreational cycling?
What time during the day, whether or not those trips are logged as
commute trips.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then kind of look at those maps and piece together
common routes, to see, alright, where is cycling greatest in the city, at
least recreational cycling, and then how does that relate to what we're
seeing in the Vision Zero collision data?
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, there's a cycling map here in the lower left, just
a screenshot from that platform, and then on the right, we're looking at
all of the pedestrian-related activities that have been logged in the
city. It's kind of funny, too, you can see over here at Apple that a lot
of employees are
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Quinlan Conf Room: Logging their… their lunch blocks, so… High intensity
there.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then, one thing we're excited about, and it took a
while to get there, but we finally executed the contract, and we had
purchased a subscription with Streetlight Data, which is kind of the de
facto, big data transportation analytics platform that
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Quinlan Conf Room: Caltrans uses, FHWA, City of San Jose.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And what this does is it takes connected vehicle data,
historical cell phone data, because they can no longer capture that.
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Quinlan Conf Room: It also works with third-party vendors that conduct
real-world counts, and it kind of allows us to look at, alright.
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Quinlan Conf Room: where is speeding occurring? Where are there high
incidences of abrupt braking? Where are people beginning their trips?
Where are they traveling? So we can create
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Quinlan Conf Room: really refine corridors and isolate those, and go,
alright, what's speeding look like along this stretch of roadway? Not
just the entire segment of roadway, but just a single block, or we can
set up a series of gates and try and determine, alright, where is…
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Quinlan Conf Room: there's a lot of collisions that are occurring that
are listed with the primary collision factor of speeding. What does
speeding actually look like on this roadway? So maybe we can make more
intelligent decisions about
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Quinlan Conf Room: infrastructure improvements along that segment. So, we
are going to be relying on this a lot moving forward, and again, we got
the contract last week, and are already scheduled with our customer
success folks to spin this up.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So this is kind of a screenshot I took today that
looks at speeding. So I was just here, I set up a very simple gate on
Finch Avenue, and you can see there's a lot of metrics and a lot of,
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Quinlan Conf Room: There's a lot of information here that we can gather
that's going to inform how we look at our Vision Zero data in the future.
So we get the 85th percentile, we also can look at 5%, 95th percent, what
the average is.
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Quinlan Conf Room: where speeding is occur… or what those average speeds
look like over the course of the day, and this is, something both David
and I are very eager to play around with.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So the takeaway, there's four takeaways from the
annual report this year, and that…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Bikes and peds remain our most vulnerable group.
They're also overrepresented in our KSIs. Intersections continue to be
areas of concern, so looking at those and figuring out how to make the
necessary crossing improvements should be
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Quinlan Conf Room: An area of focus. Speeding remains prevalent, as well
as turning conflicts and right-of-way concerns.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And the High Injury Network is kind of a good north
star to look at when making decisions, especially the intersections of
Stevens Creek and De Anza, and De Anza and Homestead, and Stevens Creek
Boulevard, Homestead Road in general.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you, Matt. Thank you much.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I think, firstly, I wanted to see if there was any
clarifying questions from the Commissioners.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I'm surprised to see, you know, or not to see,
Foothills Boulevard, the high-density Netroad.
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Quinlan Conf Room: See if you pull up the red line.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, thanks.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Where was that map? Here we go. No. Yeah, this one.
See all those red lines, right? All the major roads, but Foothill and
Boulevard is not shown, even though there are a lot of bikers, and also
there are two fatalities that occurred there.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, and the High Injury Network, as I said, was
based on that 10-year data set, which was prior to those fatalities, and
then so the
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Quinlan Conf Room: Had the high injury network been developed following
that, Foothill would definitely, have been a high injury network roadway
with the way that the network was, so this diagram also shows pre-2024?
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Quinlan Conf Room: This is all pre-2024? Yeah, it's 20… 2012 to 2021.
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Quinlan Conf Room: because the Vision Zero plan began its development in,
I want to say, 2023, 2022.
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Quinlan Conf Room: resume.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I see.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, just to… to slide off my head so that…
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Quinlan Conf Room: The red lines that you have shown was from the Vision
Zero.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Plan. Yes. Right? So that was… that was what the
previous 10 years' worth of data. Baseline, there was the baseline.
That's the baseline. But then now, whatever you're added, like 2022 to
2025,
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Quinlan Conf Room: That one is overlaid on that one, which kind of shows
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Quinlan Conf Room: or reiterates the previous high engineering network,
probably some additional extension might be worth looking at at some
point in the future.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, do you have, like, you know, the street flight
data, does it also include
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Quinlan Conf Room: Bicycle and Pedestrian counts.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So… Estimates, at least, yeah. It does. They have two
products, they just…
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Quinlan Conf Room: They had a legacy model, which we purchased, because
active transportation patterns haven't really change that much.
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that product was based on cell phone data, and then the federal
government intervened and said, hey, you know, you can't take people's
location data when they download a chess app. So, they have a new model,
but it's at a,
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useful for us, so we have more granularity with the legacy model, and it
kind of breaks it down by,
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daily trips are occurring within this zone. So, when you complement that
Strava Metro data that actually maps to the open street map, you can see,
alright, there is intensity here. So, it's something we're going to be
looking at, yeah.
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Are they basically just…
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zero? Yeah, so they're the high injury network intersections of concern,
the top 7 intersections of concern in the Big Zero Action Plan.
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This should be pretty bad, this segment. I'll tell you why.
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are messed up, like it all.
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because of the cars, what they do, right? The cars from this shopping
complex, they come and stick out.
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block out the bike completely. Because of this, you know, the divided
lane, you're stuck, you cannot go. And if you're coming at a good speed,
you are likely to hit. So… so I would avoid this area as much as
possible.
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problem. Like, the car's entering and exiting, and you're biking. Yeah,
that's safe way.
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Vision Zero Action Plan. Previous. Yeah.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So I have three questions, next question. One is the
intersection. You see the one that, between Wolf and Silver Creek is not
marked as high injury anymore? I think it's great because we had, like,
the improvements in terms of intersection. Have you seen in the data
whether there were less
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intersection since the changes were made.
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look into that, yeah. That would be fantastic.
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Quinlan Conf Room: That's one. The second one that I have is on your
memo, you have the hiring network monitoring with the various, you know,
corridors, and I'm just curious, because I see that there is, like, the
Vision Zero Action Plan KSI between 2012 and 2021.
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2025, so it's very, like, 3 years on the one side versus 9 years. Yeah.
So… We were just… We're not comparing exactly the same period of time.
No, we were comparing what the baseline is within the action plan to the
years that are following it, so ideally, we'd do this
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average. Okay, that's… but, yeah, because it didn't… it wasn't mentioned
anywhere that it was an annual average, so that makes much more sense
now. Thank you.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And the last one is the, app that you showed,
regarding the speed, etc. Yeah. Is it gonna, at some point, replace… I
saw you were doing the speed measurements with these two, you know,
rubber bands on… is it meant to replace that in the future, or… No, it's
complimentary, and actually, we're gonna incorporate some of that ETS
data, or try to work with Streetlight to incorporate that to
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operations.
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the field.
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we are lumping the
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bicycle and pedestrians. I think we need to separate that out, going back
to the same Vision Bureau.
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looking… do you have it, or… I know in one place, like, you… in one of
the slides with your
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Quinlan Conf Room: had a text added at the end, right, to show that at
the footnote of the table, you added a text saying, out of 34 KSA
collisions, how many were motorists, and why?
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Quinlan Conf Room: At least for the federal coalitions, you've had it.
This table? No, the one before that.
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table, right? Yeah, this one, right. So…
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users.
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the treatments that we will apply are the
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for the roadway users. So it's good to show that separately, even though
they might be happening in the same or same corridor or same
intersection.
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countermeasures could also be different.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I couldn't figure it out, but I was trying to kind of
count that from your chart. Yeah, so I can review this to be in there,
so… Maybe after the clarification, I can tell you what at least I
counted. It may not be accurate, but it's more, like.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Confing the points in the map. Okay. But I think it'll
be good for all of us to understand how things work. Second thing is,
also, for each of the pollutions.
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demographics, and, you know, is there any correlation or repeatability,
repeated patterns like that? We did look at that. There wasn't any kind
of clear trend that time of day or,
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contributed. These were…
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in all conditions, including looking at weather. One thing, I saw a
correlation, maybe it's correct or not, in Stevensweek and Bianza, that
intersection, in 2023,
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around 9, 9.45 or something in the night.
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another fatal collision that happened.
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pedestrian as well. So I couldn't really… I mean, I don't have full data
to really say both are related, but at least
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the same intersection in the nighttime?
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Quinlan Conf Room: two collisions happen. I should have been more clear,
sorry about that. There is nothing in this data set that's dramatically
different than the patterns that were described at the Vision Zero Action
Plan. So those different collision profiles,
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So…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, this gives a good turn. Maybe we'll talk to you
once we come back for the discussion. Thanks.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Any more clarifying questions? Otherwise, I will open
up for comments from the public, if you have any external speakers on
this topic.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We have no speakers, Sharon. No speakers, all right,
and let's bring it back to the Commission for a discussion on the topic.
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access to some of the data, because I think it really will help us to
make better decisions in the future, so I'm actually really encouraged
about that. This is a…
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Quinlan Conf Room: we could… maybe in a future meeting, we could also do
a session with the tool, I mean, if you can work with us on showing us
the tool, and kind of would be super helpful as well. Yeah, we can
definitely do that. And it's our intent to also begin producing,
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just to…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Show, hey, here's the utility of the tool, here's the
questions that people have been asking, here are the answers according to
the data here.
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Quinlan Conf Room: public comment is… are we taking… We have, open… there
is a public commentary period, but I think maybe you can cover this one,
yes, maybe on a later topic, or you can cover specifics on your… on your
screen there, yes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So if we wanted more information on, like, the
fatalities, I mean, could we go to the statewide integrated traffic
record system individually, if we want? We, and the California Crash
Reporting System, it's easy to navigate, or is it, yeah.
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We are, so…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Collision reporting, historically, has been kind of a
nightmare, because it relies on the sheriff and then different third
parties to, like, organize the information, so…
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Quinlan Conf Room: The Vision Zero Act plan, is based off of this
platform called Crossroads. So, the 10-year data that's included in the
action plan is all from Crossroads, which is essentially a citation tool
that different,
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Quinlan Conf Room: what's the word I'm looking for? No, like, police
departments use, law enforcement agencies use, just to make sure that
everything's captured.
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that,
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Quinlan Conf Room: that 10-year period, and started building out the,
collision database that's on our website, we were using sweaters.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Because at that point, it was the most authoritative
source. And then there was kind of a period in there where Switters was
slowly becoming the least authoritative source, so we moved over to CCRS.
So if you go in and pull the data from one, it may not
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it's kind of a combination of the two, which is why, beginning next year,
we're solely gonna just
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even though the data that they provide is going to take a lot of time to
reformat and make it actually usable. But there's greater accuracy in it.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So would that data be… so the sheriff's data, would
that be available to the public, too, then? I mean…
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fatality, there's… You can request information from the sheriffs about
accidents, but it's going to be highly redacted.
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we're gonna have that information in our own data set.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We can… Yeah. And a lot of it's going to be in our…
Collision data, bro. Our Collision Data Dashboard.
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Quinlan Conf Room: As it becomes available. And I will say, the only
difference really is in, like, the motorist collisions. The agencies are
very,
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and then the KSIs are captured and accurate, so that data will be
consistent.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, what I was trying to clarify is, like, we just…
for the initiation of the Vision Zero plan in our city, we worked with a
high school student calling his intern, who helped us to collect data,
like, similarly collect, like, ATS
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Quinlan Conf Room: like the consultant did, like, what the data, and that
was from the SWITRS database, plus also the county sheriff's department
also was able to give us some data, and that has a lot of information.
That's why I was just trying to… I sent you a note about that, is
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Quinlan Conf Room: you know, when is this game a good trend? But if we
have to make a concrete action out of this trend, like, every year we
wait for this, and then, okay, next year we're going to get more data,
but then what did we do so that next year the same trend doesn't happen,
right?
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Quinlan Conf Room: we need… a city should act on it to… to make things
happen, right? So for that, you need to… for each of the crash, you need
to have a crash profile.
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Quinlan Conf Room: and kind of build that to find out what can we get
from it, right? For example.
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Quinlan Conf Room: you know, time of the day, lighting, age, vehicle
movement, you know, whether it is pedestrian or bicyclist movement,
right? What is the collision type, you know, collision factor. Some of
it, you had, like, you know, right turn, or right-of-way violation, and
so on, right? But speed.
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right?
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That's what we did. Collected that information, then extracted some
relevant things, and then kind of
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Quinlan Conf Room: add some charts out of it, so we can make something
out of it, right? I think that one of the things that I would suggest is
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Quinlan Conf Room: for the immediate needs, pick 3 or 5 conjunct high
injury intersections, because it's high correlation that's from the
Vision Zero data, as well as the next four years.
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intersections, are closer to the intersections, right? That has not
changed. So that pattern is continuing.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then, now, more fatal, like, you know, it's too
much. One is too many.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then you're seeing exactly the same fatality on
the same intersection over and over.
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really take a look at it, so that next year it doesn't happen.
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the
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like Homestead and
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Quinlan Conf Room: And, and the answer. And Steven Street and the answer,
right?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah. And then try to… try to come up with some… maybe
you can pick another one or two, but then come up with this analysis, and
then see whether… what can we do to mitigate this, or what
countermeasures that we could have done
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some kind of an extension to giving more…
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Quinlan Conf Room: you know, this is not new. You go back and look at the
Vision Zero toolbox, these are all in it, right? So we need to pick the
right toolbox for the right problem, right? So that's the whole idea of
the data-driven
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then, how can we use quick build so that, yeah,
permanent projects might happen much later, but then can you do something
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Quinlan Conf Room: Which will bring this down, right? For the next year.
Yeah, and we can come back with a supplemental memo that kind of
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Quinlan Conf Room: We can certainly… Yes, yes, and then not only that,
like, supplemental memo with this additional data, and then also that
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countermeasures that we can… near-term countermeasures that we can take
on those intersections.
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Quinlan Conf Room: that will address this problem. And, for example,
you're already doing work on
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are doing in the signaling intersection, which would have been addressed.
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like, you know, we did some improvements on Wolf and
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little more.
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Quinlan Conf Room: to upgrade any page that. So if not, then we are not
doing the right solution. So we need to really figure out what's the
right solution.
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back with a
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proposals. Okay.
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So, there's a fatality that… is that a car fatal, automobile-related
fatality? A motorist hit a pedestrian.
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two fatalities.
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I start… I look at the, Pedestrian plot.
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the bicycle.
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fatality that's…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Your summary page, you show where you show all the
fatalities and the,
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Quinlan Conf Room: the, all the severe injuries, but… Yeah, so we have
one fatality on Tantale, two at the intersection of Stevens Creek and De
Anza.
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Quinlan Conf Room: One motorist fatality, almost at Stevens Canyon Road,
and then a Pedestrian fatality on Foothill, and there's two that are
right on top of each other at the intersection of Stevens Creek and De
Anza.
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Quinlan Conf Room: If you're looking at the map, so that is a motorist
fatality, then, at Foothill, that, yes. Okay. The bottom one, the one
closest to the Stevens Creek intersection? I was thinking it was a
bicycle or a pedestrian fatality. No, that was a motorist.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Then, another thing is, like, how many of them are
because of…
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Quinlan Conf Room: BUI, or, you know, or something related to, you know.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, that's… okay, that's clear. We… we can break
that out, yeah. The intent of the annual report was kind of just to…
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Quinlan Conf Room: The previous one was, you know, kids. And welcome back
to home.
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Quinlan Conf Room: That's a BUI, right? Yeah.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, overall, first of all, thank you for putting that
together, because that's exactly, I think, all of us wanted to have this
type of data to better understand how the city actually works in terms of
KSIs, and that was part of the plan, so thank you for doing that. Thank
you for following up. I think, collectively.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I think it's good to, you know.
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Quinlan Conf Room: have a hard look at ourselves, and I think when you
look at the KSL here, we're failing.
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Quinlan Conf Room: collectively, the residents of Cupertino, because
we're not landing. If the trend goes on, like, if you see, like, KSI is,
like, 10, 7, 8, and 9, that's not a trend that's much down, but it's
gonna go down in 2040. So, we're essentially failing everyone here.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, I think we need to take a hard look at what are
the things that we must do quickly in order to make that happen. If you
look at the collision data.
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Quinlan Conf Room: It's fair to say that very few of the accidents were,
like, Pedestrian experience, or bikes against bikes.
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assumption. I think it's an educated assumption, but I think it's, it's
pretty reasonable.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And when you look at, okay, what's the factor between
a car accident and a pedestrian, then you would say it's a right-of-way
violation. If it's a bike, it's an automobile right-of-way violation. So
to me, it looks like
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Quinlan Conf Room: You know, there's a strong case to be made, again, to
separate the traffic flow of cars and pedestrians and bikes to make sure
that these things cannot happen.
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Quinlan Conf Room: you see it, it's the traffic signals and the signs. So
what are the things that we must do in order to make that better? Because
just, you know, looking at it and be like, hey, traffic signals are here,
and…
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Quinlan Conf Room: what is it that we can change? And I think I go back
to Commissioner Ganga's point about, you know, the Vision Zero toolbox,
is, okay, what is it that we can do in order to make that change? Because
right now, as I said, we're not…
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Quinlan Conf Room: We're not making progress towards the goal, and 2040
is…
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Quinlan Conf Room: It's gonna come soon, I think, and that's not where
we're… we're not going to zero right now, so we need to do better.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, I see there's… there's a…
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Quinlan Conf Room: big drop in KSIs on McClellan. I mean, when you look
at the data, is that attributed to that protected bike lane?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you. We learned, comparison, you know.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, that's… that section, I know before that was
put in, there was a lot of… I mean, a lot of kids were getting hit, and
and this goes maybe back to Commissioner Marcy's, where we can look at,
pre- and post-project collision data, and
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Quinlan Conf Room: Commission can make a judgment on that.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Any more discussion? Any additional points anybody
wants to bring up, or…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Just wanted to add one good point, like, in 2025,
there was no fatality, because I read the analysis, it was happy that no
one died on Cupertino streets. Great to see. What about 26 so far is
also… 26 is…
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Quinlan Conf Room: I don't know. And there's a report flag. Oh, we
wouldn't even know if there would have…
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Quinlan Conf Room: He's not aware of it, no.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I'd just like to add some more points, like,
this is regarding… I was just looking at the data.
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Quinlan Conf Room: to see if I can make sense. So, this is, like, 2022 to
25 BH, right? So, you have a total of 42 pedestrian
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Quinlan Conf Room: crashes, right? Out of which 9 were severe or KSI,
right? And then 3 out of the 3 were, you know, fatal.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Right? So, that is… and similarly, if you bike, if you
take 87, then ZRA was 3 and fatal was 1, right? Total of the 4. So, if
you look at it, like.
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Quinlan Conf Room: 29% of the pedestrian-involved collisions were KSIs.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay? 5% of life-involved pollutions for KSIs. So if
you look at the…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Because more, more pedestrians are, of course,
walking, like, on the streets, so… Sorry, repeat that again.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, 29% of pedestrian-involved pollutions are KSRs.
Roughly 30% is KSRs. 5% of bike-involved pollions are KSRs. Interesting.
So, you can see that the problem is actually magnified
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Quinlan Conf Room: in the Pedestrian's case, It's obvious, because more
pedestrians are exposing themselves from the
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Quinlan Conf Room: Traffic and intersections and so on.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But… what, what?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Stripe? Yeah, go ahead. We say that we should solve
for the better streams, because… I'm not saying solve for one or the
other, like, the majority of the… Exactly, right. So, like, for example,
like, you know, separating the lanes is not going to solve them.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Pedestrian fatalities that are happening. So, that's
why I said, like, pilot data separate instead of lumping them, it's
vulnerable roadway users.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Because outer measures and toolbox from the cloud that
you will be using… Will be different. …will be different. Analysis also
will be different.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So that's… that's basically what I was trying to get
to, and so hopefully, when you come back with a supplemental report.
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Quinlan Conf Room: You will be able to get more insight, you will have
more data, so you will be able to make
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Quinlan Conf Room: Informed, data-driven.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We'll be able to incorporate some of that streetlight
information as well. Exactly. So if it is happening always in the night,
then the solution could be, like, you know, improving the lighting, or
the solution could be, maybe, do I want to have a leading pedestrian
interval? Will that help something? I don't know from this, but you will
be able to get that, you know, data.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then come to us, that we will make an inter… and
then we don't have to wait. Like, for example, if you look at it last 10
years.
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Quinlan Conf Room: to next 10 years, you saw that the injury collisions
actually went down, right? It's 116 versus total, right? 95.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But then, if you look at AISI is 8 or 9, actually, in
fact, increase a little bit, or pretty much the same. So, unless we make
changes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: it's not going to change. It's going to… you're going
to see the same data again and again.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So…
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Quinlan Conf Room: What point treatments that we are going to make, or
point cultural measures that we are going to make.
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Quinlan Conf Room: That's political. We don't have to wait for, you know,
I'm going to…
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Quinlan Conf Room: completely redo the Stevens Lake Boulevard. That's not
going to help in other places, or it will not… the intersection, they're
not fixing the real problem.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Right? So, I think that's what I want to do. I mean,
it's a very good point. I think, you know, Gaga has a… Ilambra has a very
good point, so we need to look at the data later. Because Pedestrian
bike, the meshes are what you do is different.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, so, and I'm sure now, the next topic that we
have for discussion is going to be Pedestrian related, not a bike
related.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And we'll keep that in mind when we produce the annual
report next year, with that level of detail that's required, because the
action plan called for our progress towards KSIs more broadly, whereas
now we'll move forward breaking that out and providing some clear
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Quinlan Conf Room: Direction on… on progress related to… improvements,
too.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Is that annual report going to be published somewhere,
or is that really just primarily for city internal kind of… No, it will
be published and made available online, and it's also going to be, I
believe, presented to
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Quinlan Conf Room: Maybe another commission. We will be, communicating it
to the City Council through an informational demo, and it will be
available online. I think it would be substantially important to include
some of the findings that Ilango was just raising here. I think it would
be really important to include those,
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Quinlan Conf Room: kind of… I think because it… for the reasons already
mentioned, so I wanted to repeat that, but it'd be good to see the
differences between… Yeah, there's definitely some nuance in that VRE, so
we'll… we'll make that clear.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Ideally, the Vision Zero Action Plan calls for a task
force.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then the task force is supposed to meet at least
every quarter.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then look at the data and keep making
improvements, iterations, right? And of course, like, 5 years down the
road, we might even update the PregenZero, you know, plan.
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Quinlan Conf Room: itself with additional data that we collected over the
time. That's what the other cities are doing, right? But then, since we
did not really constitute such a task force who's actively monitoring
this, then it means that it comes back to the Commission
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Quinlan Conf Room: Along with the staff.
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Quinlan Conf Room: To really do that periodically, to make sure that this
improvement is happening.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Would it be helpful for the city to have the quality
kind of staff?
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Quinlan Conf Room: quarterly… what is it, task force? The task force is
supposed to have a quarter. I don't know if it's useful or valuable for…
We looked at the feasibility of a task force, because it is outlined in
the…
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Quinlan Conf Room: In the plan, and it introduces…
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Quinlan Conf Room: obligations. And, we felt, at least for the time
being, this was the best approach to be able to
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Quinlan Conf Room: field evaluator.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I think this is super helpful and super valuable. I
really appreciate this together. Maybe, in lieu of a task force, maybe we
do it shorter, twice a year? I don't know, in this form here.
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Quinlan Conf Room: That would make sense, like, for us to do it in this…
yeah, exactly. It doesn't need to be that long, like, this is our first
baseline, I guess, but moving forward, it may be just a 15 minutes agenda
item every 6 months. Yeah, we can do that. The data is only going to be
available once a year, so we can have the formal annual report, but there
could be…
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Quinlan Conf Room: an additional check-in to kind of go over the items
that we discussed. Like, some of the things we talked about today, we
could take a look in 6 months from now. Exactly. And see, hey, how did
those…
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Quinlan Conf Room: the directions that were presented today, how did they
find out? Yeah, what are they presenting?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. My request would be even earlier than that for
this specific… Supplemental report, but…
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Quinlan Conf Room: more analysis with countermeasures. For the initial,
for the first time. For the first time, and then pick, maybe, you know,
if they can't do all of it, like, 3 to 5 final injury intersections,
focus on that data for that, and then come back with countermeasures, and
then we can take it back to the council if it needs budget or anything to
address that. Yeah, fair enough.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So let's make sure this is one of the items that we
capture today as the… as one of the follow-ups, and then see when we can
schedule it this.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Pretty early as feasible.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Do we need a motion, or is it okay for the staff to
come back in the next…
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Quinlan Conf Room: I think as long as we capture it, kind of, parking lot
area where we have all the agenda items there.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But I definitely think some of the suggestions we
should put it there captured in the notes,
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Quinlan Conf Room: made to the year. I think those are good, good
suggestions.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Bird and citrus, Francis.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Excellent. Thank you. Anything else on this topic?
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Quinlan Conf Room: If not, we're closing on this item here, moving on to
our next item, which is items number 3 on the agenda tonight.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And it's, received presentation on the history of the
prospect vote Confirms.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Completed improvements, as well as suggested next
steps.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And I think we have a presentation, on the topic as
well. Sure.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Prashanth a second, too, Mark.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yep. Pull up the presentation. Excellent. Matt changed
all my settings.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, thanks. Okay. Thank you, Chair. Commissioners,
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Quinlan Conf Room: So tonight, I'll be discussing, as the chair
mentioned, Prospect Road between De Anza and Stelling Road. This is a
segment that's been on our radar for
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Quinlan Conf Room: Just highlight some things that we have…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Studied what we've accomplished, some of the concerns
that we've heard, and get feedback on next steps.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, just to familiarize…
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Quinlan Conf Room: yourself, although you all are fairly familiar with
the street. There's one vehicle lane in each direction between Stelling
and Danza Boulevard. There's a striped median.
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Quinlan Conf Room: With striped, left turn lanes, on-street parking on
both sides of the street, as well as currently, there weren't always, but
currently buffered bike lanes on both sides of the street. It's also a
very wide street, as you all…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Historically, it's had pretty wide lanes as a result.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Prospect has a traffic signal at the intersection at
De Anza Boulevard with a protected pedestrian crossing, and there's a
stop sign, on the other end at Stelling Road, with pedestrians can cross,
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Quinlan Conf Room: Prospect at that location, because cars are stopped at
the stop sign. Cupertino shares the jurisdiction of Saratoga… of Prospect
Road with Saratoga, generally Saratoga.
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Quinlan Conf Room: South Half and Cupertino alone.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Some stats, average daily traffic is about a little
over 8,000 cars per day. The length of the segment is .42 miles.
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Quinlan Conf Room: The 85th percentile speed on the segment, and this is
the…
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Quinlan Conf Room: And this was determined using radar guns by unmarked
vehicles as part of
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Quinlan Conf Room: The determination of the speed limit that was done
back a couple… 2024.
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Quinlan Conf Room: The accident rate along the segment, for the previous
3 years is .51 accidents per million vehicle miles.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And you can… as a comparison, the statewide average
for streets of similar function
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Quinlan Conf Room: Is 1.18 accidents per million vehicle miles. So, the
accident rate is roughly half the state average for that type of roadway.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And specifically, there have been two accidents along
the segment.
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Quinlan Conf Room: In the previous 5 years, neither one speed-related.
One was a vehicle hitting a fixed object.
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Quinlan Conf Room: East of Jamestown Drive, and the other one was a
vehicle… vehicle broadside accident that was about 180 feet west of
Dentonville.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, this just kind of shows you in detail the layout
that I described on the left.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So the north is up, the top photo shows the…
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Quinlan Conf Room: western half of the segment, and then that would
connect to the left side of the bottom photo, which is the
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Quinlan Conf Room: eastern half of the segment, so that's Prospect Road
on the left there, sorry, Stelling on the left, where the railroad tracks
are, and then De Anza Boulevard on the bottom photo, on the right side.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, you can see the striped center median, the vehicle
lanes in each direction, and, the buffered bike lanes along the whole
water.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And there is no crossing… Pedestrian crossing between,
anywhere between Stelling and cancel it.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, some history of the street. So, the residents, a
couple of residents on Prospect first approached the city in 2019 to
express concerns about vehicle…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Pedestrian safety. So, over the course of the next
several years, the city had a lot of communication with the residents and
with the City of Saratoga
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Quinlan Conf Room: And, made a series of improvements to try to address
the concerns about speeding and safety on the street. So the first
measure that was completed was back in 2021, where we installed radar…
permanent radar speed, feedback signs on Prospect.
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Quinlan Conf Room: An attempt to bring speeds down on the street.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Then in 2022, we developed striping plans for the
purpose of adding a buffer, a stripe buffer between the bike lane and the
vehicle lane, and to also narrow the travel lanes. So.
432
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Quinlan Conf Room: At that time, the lanes… the vehicle lanes were very
wide.
433
01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:48.590
Quinlan Conf Room: Probably 13, 14 feet for the vehicle lanes, and…
434
01:00:49.130 --> 01:01:08.820
Quinlan Conf Room: 18, 19 feet for the center median. So we developed a
striping plan to narrow all of the lanes, and using the buffer that we
added, next to the bike lane to kind of… to help with that. And the
purpose being generally narrower lanes result in lower speeds. Drivers
feel more…
435
01:01:08.910 --> 01:01:14.119
Quinlan Conf Room: Constrained, and so they tend to drive slower where
there are narrower… narrower lanes.
436
01:01:14.520 --> 01:01:31.020
Quinlan Conf Room: So the city coordinated that work, spoke to Saratoga.
Saratoga was supportive of the, project. We also talked about the idea of
installing a crosswalk at Villaroncal.
437
01:01:31.470 --> 01:01:47.439
Quinlan Conf Room: The City of Saratoga was supportive of that idea if a
full protected treatment could be applied, which means a center refuge
island, pedestrian-actuated flashing beacons, warning signs.
438
01:01:47.670 --> 01:01:51.440
Quinlan Conf Room: High disability strike being… The whole night yards.
439
01:01:51.950 --> 01:02:07.980
Quinlan Conf Room: In 2023, we did pavement maintenance work on Prospect,
which allowed us to incorporate the new striping plan that we had
developed with the narrower lanes of our bike lanes, so that was done in
2023.
440
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Quinlan Conf Room: Also, in 2023, we conducted an engineering traffic
survey on Prospect, along with a handful of other streets on the city, in
order to see if we could lower the speed limit. Time was 35 miles an
hour.
441
01:02:22.500 --> 01:02:29.340
Quinlan Conf Room: And, performing that engineering and traffic survey
allowed us to lower the speed limit to 30 miles an hour.
442
01:02:31.740 --> 01:02:43.179
Quinlan Conf Room: After 2023, there had been no more physical
improvements done. We started developing the active transportation plan,
and we did put a
443
01:02:43.620 --> 01:03:00.480
Quinlan Conf Room: a spot improvement for a pedestrian-related
improvement at the intersection of VR on Call and Saratoga Avenue as one
of the improvements in the active transportation plan. The buffered bike
lane treatment was identified in the bike plan.
444
01:03:00.810 --> 01:03:09.000
Quinlan Conf Room: Which we completed, and there are no other
improvements identified in any of the city's current adopted plans.
445
01:03:09.590 --> 01:03:10.830
Quinlan Conf Room: a prospector.
446
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:18.479
Quinlan Conf Room: So, just, this is…
447
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:31.669
Quinlan Conf Room: Why did I put this slide here? Yeah, this is… this is
what it looks like now. It's just a close-up of what I described with the
buffered bike lanes and the narrower vehicle lanes, and that's the
intersection at Fear on Call and at Prospect.
448
01:03:31.910 --> 01:03:34.689
Quinlan Conf Room: Excellent. So the buffered bike lands are all the way,
the whole…
449
01:03:35.120 --> 01:03:38.909
Quinlan Conf Room: The whole, the whole segment, all the way from
Stelling to… Yes.
450
01:03:40.100 --> 01:03:44.939
Quinlan Conf Room: So, in terms of any next steps, any…
451
01:03:45.350 --> 01:03:56.549
Quinlan Conf Room: any further improvements along the corridor would
require, both City Council funding and support from the City of Saratoga.
452
01:03:56.970 --> 01:04:01.859
Quinlan Conf Room: The project cost that I have in there, that would be…
we were to install a…
453
01:04:01.900 --> 01:04:18.049
Quinlan Conf Room: Pedestrian crossing, which has been requested at VR on
call, would be in the neighborhood of $30,000 to $50,000 to complete the
crossing, and that's to install, there'd be a concrete median in the
middle, there'd be high-visibility striping, flashing signs, that adds up
454
01:04:21.420 --> 01:04:29.279
Quinlan Conf Room: probably that could be shared with the City of
Saratoga, but that's… that's an agreement that would have to… that's a
discussion that would have to be had.
455
01:04:29.510 --> 01:04:39.080
Quinlan Conf Room: As I said, that improvement is not currently
identified in any adopted city plan.
456
01:04:39.270 --> 01:04:54.080
Quinlan Conf Room: It is shown in the ATP, so if the ATP, once that gets
adopted, obviously that would facilitate the city being able to submit a
request to the City Council to fund it through our catalog.
457
01:04:55.610 --> 01:05:02.990
Quinlan Conf Room: And move forward, but that's… that's what would need
to happen. Along with the discussion with ZRA.
458
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:09.960
Quinlan Conf Room: I think that includes my presentation, so…
459
01:05:10.170 --> 01:05:14.620
Quinlan Conf Room: Happy to answer any questions, and… be a ticket.
460
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Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you, David, that was super helpful. Really
appreciate the detailed summary. Do we have any clarifying questions from
the Commission first?
461
01:05:25.110 --> 01:05:33.279
Quinlan Conf Room: So you mentioned 2022. Staff discussed the idea of a
crosswalk at the Avonkole with Saratoga. Do you…
462
01:05:33.460 --> 01:05:39.210
Quinlan Conf Room: Can't remember having seen that on the BikePet
Commission. Did you mention that to the Bike Pet Commission at some
point?
463
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:53.219
Quinlan Conf Room: I… I don't recall. Right, that's one, and also the
second question is, like, why wasn't anything done like you discussed,
and then what's… what happened there? To say, oh, no, we're not gonna do
it, like, what was the outcome of that, so that…
464
01:05:53.370 --> 01:06:04.190
Quinlan Conf Room: Obviously, it didn't happen, but… Yeah, yeah, it was
discussed, and I just wanted to be if Saratoga was even supportive of the
idea, because if they weren't, then we are.
465
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Quinlan Conf Room: And so they, they were. But we couldn't do anything
else because, again, it's not an…
466
01:06:10.450 --> 01:06:11.579
Quinlan Conf Room: Don't have anyone.
467
01:06:12.820 --> 01:06:19.350
Quinlan Conf Room: So I was… I was just gauging their support for the
improvements, so, as information goes forward.
468
01:06:19.510 --> 01:06:25.810
Quinlan Conf Room: And, you know, the… Yeah. So, so now we have that.
469
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:36.249
Quinlan Conf Room: If we were to go forward, I could say, yes, Saratoga…
So, likely partner. So an approved ATP would be a catalyst for such a
project. It would.
470
01:06:38.210 --> 01:06:40.259
Quinlan Conf Room: When we have a body.
471
01:06:40.450 --> 01:06:54.850
Quinlan Conf Room: street like that, right? So, is the responsibility 50-
50 shared, or no, is the city bought right in the middle of the road, or
one side of the road, or the other side of the road? It's pretty close to
being right in the middle of the road. It would be a 50-50.
472
01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:02.030
Quinlan Conf Room: But it sounds like, from a funding perspective, it's…
It doesn't seem like…
473
01:07:02.340 --> 01:07:09.920
Quinlan Conf Room: a lot of money if EATP is approved, then it's a… it's
a valid project. We probably could get for some brands, so we're not
there.
474
01:07:12.690 --> 01:07:20.399
Quinlan Conf Room: Potentially, there's some grant money. Yeah, maybe
TDA… could potentially be used for that.
475
01:07:21.030 --> 01:07:29.929
Quinlan Conf Room: Any more clarifying questions? So, when you did,
strike bike lanes, right? Did you work with the Saratoga City at that
time? So we delivered the cost.
476
01:07:30.250 --> 01:07:33.069
Quinlan Conf Room: Well, the… yes. Okay, yeah.
477
01:07:34.490 --> 01:07:40.789
Quinlan Conf Room: Has there been a speed study done since the speed
limit was reduced? We are doing one now.
478
01:07:41.160 --> 01:07:50.989
Quinlan Conf Room: Along with the rest of the city, so I'll… I'll have
the… But I think those segments excluded because it has been done? No,
we're doing Blaney, we're doing…
479
01:07:51.290 --> 01:07:56.420
Quinlan Conf Room: Rodriguez… We can double check. We can double check.
Yeah.
480
01:07:57.730 --> 01:08:04.720
Quinlan Conf Room: Was that initiated by our city or Saratoga, with the
strike being and narrowing the lanes between us?
481
01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:10.949
Quinlan Conf Room: Would you plan for a grant for a project of that low
cost? Yeah.
482
01:08:11.120 --> 01:08:23.990
Quinlan Conf Room: even, like, worth it? Because I think for a grant, if
I recall correctly, is very tedious. I'm just curious if that's something
that would make sense here. So the particular… there's one particular
grant, it's the TDA…
483
01:08:23.990 --> 01:08:38.280
Quinlan Conf Room: And it's the grant that's funding our ATP, and it's a
grant that funded our De Anza buffered bike lane project. That one is a
little different than other grants in that it's… it's not a…
484
01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:44.719
Quinlan Conf Room: It's not a big application, it's not a competitive
program, it's a… there's a dedicated pot of money that each city
485
01:08:44.720 --> 01:08:53.759
Quinlan Conf Room: guess every year to use towards bike and pred
improvements, and it just has to meet some criteria. And as long as it
meets that criteria, you're basically good to go.
486
01:08:54.529 --> 01:08:57.849
Quinlan Conf Room: The 30 to 50 grand lease once.
487
01:08:58.020 --> 01:09:09.960
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, yeah. And then, because there's a bit of
infrastructure work. In addition to what I mentioned, you'd also have to
provide at least one new ADA ramp.
488
01:09:10.859 --> 01:09:18.430
Quinlan Conf Room: on the Cupertino side, there's not a real good place
to put that currently, that intersection.
489
01:09:18.569 --> 01:09:29.340
Quinlan Conf Room: We've looked at it. One location, we'll put the cross
up right in front of somebody's front walkway. If we move it another
location, it's going to be, like, pretty skewed.
490
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, or, you know, and there's trees and driveways,
so it's… it's not ideal, but there's, there's costs associated with
491
01:09:40.660 --> 01:09:48.010
Quinlan Conf Room: Getting a ramping. And maybe some parking removal.
Maybe a little bit of parking. Parking removal also would be required.
Yeah.
492
01:09:49.170 --> 01:09:57.139
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I wanted to spend some time there today, you
know, before coming here. I sat there for, like, 15-20 minutes, you know,
asking what's going on.
493
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, yeah, I do see, you know, there's a speed measure
thing, a display showing me, hey, you're, you know, flashing, say, you
know, you're going all over the bridge and all that, right? So, and and
then I… I did see, you know, a few pedestrian crossing and the bikers,
you know, trying to cross and all that, so…
494
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Quinlan Conf Room: I was expecting a lot more cars than, you know, what I
saw, right? So, till, like, 6 to 6.30, the car traffic was a little lower
than what I expected, but the cars that were going, you know, were going
at a pretty good speed, and I saw a few people trying to cross and
struggling.
495
01:10:34.550 --> 01:10:44.979
Quinlan Conf Room: And would we need more pedestrian crossings, or, I
mean, you were referring to one specifically, David, but would you expect
that we would put in more of them, or…
496
01:10:45.170 --> 01:10:49.659
Quinlan Conf Room: Not… I wouldn't expect we would need that.
497
01:10:53.670 --> 01:10:57.149
Quinlan Conf Room: Also, we have to observe a little bit Pedestrian
activity, how much pedestrian activity.
498
01:10:58.050 --> 01:10:59.500
Quinlan Conf Room: Yep. Yep.
499
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Quinlan Conf Room: If you have no more clarifying questions, let's open
up for public comments on this topic. Do we have any speakers on this
topic?
500
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Quinlan Conf Room: We have one speaker, Quin Dog.
501
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Quinlan Conf Room: Wonderful.
502
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Quinlan Conf Room: Welcome. Welcome. I give you 3 minutes to… Yeah, yeah,
come on. So, can I go back to the… the PowerPoint, the picture of the
satellite picture of the live alpha? This one here? You can take the
print off. Okay, we can look at it. Yeah, so…
503
01:11:31.970 --> 01:11:50.470
Quinlan Conf Room: One proposal I mentioned to babies, like, add a
crosswalk on the Warrango. So it's, it's only, one to three weeks, no, no
cross, no light this week, right? So it's very safe to add, some, refugee
island here.
504
01:11:51.100 --> 01:12:00.649
Quinlan Conf Room: Here, so… and also put some, concrete island between
the back lane and drive lane, and the current will for surely just slow
down.
505
01:12:00.670 --> 01:12:15.160
Quinlan Conf Room: So, this is one thing, and yeah, as for the accident,
my neighbor mentioned last year, and the year before last year, two
bikers were locked down, and this year, I saw one accident, car accident,
so…
506
01:12:15.320 --> 01:12:21.490
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, what is… Yes, I think so.
507
01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:23.399
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, that's it, press it.
508
01:12:23.660 --> 01:12:26.510
Quinlan Conf Room: Hope you guys can fix the solution.
509
01:12:26.670 --> 01:12:36.319
Quinlan Conf Room: Like, my cost estimate is based roughly on what he
showed me. Thank you. I'd also like if we can put some,
510
01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:38.760
Quinlan Conf Room: Deal plate.
511
01:12:39.170 --> 01:12:50.240
Quinlan Conf Room: So, we'll see, right? When they approach here, then
they will slow down. They will feel, oh, I might hit something, but they
will slow down.
512
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I sent this to David before. Yeah, so the city
has already the materials. Yeah, okay, okay, wonderful. Thank you,
wonderful. And just one more thing, like, based upon the past history
with conversation with the residents, sometimes the residents, if the
crosswalk is close to their driveway, they're not okay with it, so…
513
01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:21.839
Quinlan Conf Room: maybe in this case, the crosswalk would be close to
the driveway on, I think, north side of the Prospect Road property, so
maybe we need to talk to them also. Yes. They seem to agree, so it's one
of the constraints for this project, if we go ahead.
514
01:13:22.280 --> 01:13:27.659
Quinlan Conf Room: And just… just a sort of a cautionary word, we don't…
we want to…
515
01:13:28.420 --> 01:13:31.150
Quinlan Conf Room: We don't want to be in a position of…
516
01:13:32.290 --> 01:13:36.440
Quinlan Conf Room: Building a pedestrian crossing in order to slow down
cars.
517
01:13:37.630 --> 01:13:42.880
Quinlan Conf Room: You want to slow down what? We don't want to… we don't
want to…
518
01:13:43.010 --> 01:13:47.079
Quinlan Conf Room: We don't want the reason that we're putting in a
pedestrian crossing to…
519
01:13:47.120 --> 01:13:52.259
Quinlan Conf Room: So that car slowed down. No, no, yeah.
520
01:13:52.260 --> 01:14:15.019
Quinlan Conf Room: Well, we want speeds to be low, and then we say we can
let peds cross. We don't want to say we have a high-speed road, so let's
put pedestrians. That's what I want. We need to be careful that we're not
using a pedestrian crosswalk as a traffic calming device, is what I'm
saying. Putting pedestrians potentially in a dangerous spot. So, you
mentioned in your platform.
521
01:14:15.610 --> 01:14:21.210
Quinlan Conf Room: Specifically, it's 30 mile power, right? But right
now, most cars are running around at more than 35.
522
01:14:21.570 --> 01:14:26.820
Quinlan Conf Room: So… And right now, radar, the VR is not working, so
what else we can do?
523
01:14:27.810 --> 01:14:42.099
Quinlan Conf Room: Right? Sorry, radar is not working, or… Yeah, there's
a… because we're always, you know, saying, oh, you're speeding, you're
speeding, and then no drivers care about that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I would
ignore it. So… so what we can do?
524
01:14:42.530 --> 01:14:57.750
Quinlan Conf Room: And then try to narrow down the driveway, no, no
effect at all. So no, no, no, no, nothing we can do. But why would the
Pedestrian walkway and change the speed? I'm just trying to understand
here.
525
01:15:00.670 --> 01:15:09.390
Quinlan Conf Room: When you see, like, a road that's very wide, and
there's nothing in the middle, you feel like it's very sick to sleep.
That's the thing.
526
01:15:10.240 --> 01:15:21.150
Quinlan Conf Room: Right? Right. But if there is something… if you feel,
oh, the driving lane is very… is very narrow and surrounded by some
concrete island on the side, okay, I need to slow down.
527
01:15:21.730 --> 01:15:35.889
Quinlan Conf Room: Like, it's something like, when you drive, there is a
car on the, on the, on the side, right? You have to go down. You, you,
you feel, I might hit the car. But if there's… if my driveway is very far
from your parked car, it's very safe to see.
528
01:15:36.020 --> 01:15:37.119
Quinlan Conf Room: That's it.
529
01:15:37.330 --> 01:15:45.430
Quinlan Conf Room: Have you done any, traffic enforcement, doing this?
Well, we've… we've alerted the sheriffs that we had
530
01:15:45.990 --> 01:15:47.379
Quinlan Conf Room: Sony with me.
531
01:15:47.730 --> 01:15:54.160
Quinlan Conf Room: You know, they have the resources. Is putting speed
bump an option dead?
532
01:15:55.130 --> 01:15:58.839
Quinlan Conf Room: Not currently, because we don't have… I mean, it's…
no, just…
533
01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:00.669
Quinlan Conf Room: ask me what it's office. It's…
534
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:03.599
Quinlan Conf Room: It's an option, but it's… it's…
535
01:16:04.390 --> 01:16:21.479
Quinlan Conf Room: there would be a… it would need to go through City
Council approval and discuss the pros and cons, like emergency vehicle
response and that, because we don't have a traffic calming program
anymore that's funded, so it would… it would be a CIP project, probably.
536
01:16:21.580 --> 01:16:27.790
Quinlan Conf Room: Is it possible? Yes. Okay. Yes. The way I see it is,
you know.
537
01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:40.170
Quinlan Conf Room: Our city is a residential community, right? It's not a
place to speak. There is no reason for anyone to be going around beyond
25, obviously.
538
01:16:40.420 --> 01:16:44.060
Quinlan Conf Room: Right? So, Steel Street and Lianza, maybe.
539
01:16:44.230 --> 01:17:00.360
Quinlan Conf Room: 30-40, right? But on all the other streets, there's no
reason for anybody to go beyond 45, right? So… so then we need to do
everything to disallow anybody to go, you know, beyond 45. Which means,
you know, the…
540
01:17:01.270 --> 01:17:07.850
Quinlan Conf Room: traffic calming meshes and all that, like, the speed
bombs and all that, we should be looking at. Because, you know, people
speed.
541
01:17:08.060 --> 01:17:26.020
Quinlan Conf Room: Right? So, people just speed, so… and… and unexpected
things happen, right? So, because people… people are not expecting speed
in those trees, so they feel like, you know, they want to cross, and then
they get surprised by a speeding car, right? So…
542
01:17:26.170 --> 01:17:34.800
Quinlan Conf Room: So it sounds like we were already successful to bring
it down from 35 to 30. Is it even feasible to bring it down to 5, or is
it… The speed limit…
543
01:17:35.460 --> 01:17:42.139
Quinlan Conf Room: It was, it was a stretch. It's assume that, no, 30 is
the limit, right? Yeah.
544
01:17:44.370 --> 01:17:49.610
Quinlan Conf Room: I don't feel people are going at, you know, when I was
sitting there and watching, I saw someone at 39.
545
01:17:49.610 --> 01:18:14.579
Quinlan Conf Room: Right? So… so we need to, kind of, you know, what can
we do to keep them, you know, you're not going above 30 on the speed,
right? If you go, they won't get the price. If people go 30, then we are
in a much safer place. Yeah, I… I attend, sorry. I attended the South
Tokyo side, they have, like, some central meeting every… every month, or
every two weeks, I don't remember. And they mentioned, they measure the
seating, there are lots of seating.
546
01:18:14.580 --> 01:18:19.510
Quinlan Conf Room: on that road, and they prop… something… somebody
proposed to lower the
547
01:18:19.570 --> 01:18:24.450
Quinlan Conf Room: It's really needed for that. I don't know how much
lower, maybe between 5?
548
01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:41.690
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, so… but I doubt that will work, because no
people care about the speeding. It sounds like even people who were in
the 30s around… probably… Yeah, the speed limit, no. So long example,
they can go, they go. Yeah. God take meshes on the road in order to
prevent them from going. They go…
549
01:18:41.900 --> 01:18:46.940
Quinlan Conf Room: you know, if there's big bombs, right, then, you know,
they're like, no, I'm not gonna damage my car, so…
550
01:18:47.320 --> 01:18:59.639
Quinlan Conf Room: Yes, yes. So, I definitely agree with Commissioner
Butler that, you know, speeding, you can put a sign with 5 miles per
hour, and nobody will care, because they see that the road is broad, and
they would just go.
551
01:18:59.670 --> 01:19:16.240
Quinlan Conf Room: I was just curious about whether it's feasible to look
at… because we have two different problems here. We have the pedestrians
who want to cross and have no option to cross, that's one, and the second
one is that cars are coming too fast. So that's two different problems,
but they are related, because at the end of the day, we want this, you
know, safety for the pedestrian.
552
01:19:16.270 --> 01:19:22.650
Quinlan Conf Room: would it be possible to do, like, you did at
Rodriguez, removing this central lane?
553
01:19:22.850 --> 01:19:24.960
Quinlan Conf Room: So that there's…
554
01:19:25.360 --> 01:19:38.730
Quinlan Conf Room: street looks narrower, and that automatically will
make people drive slower, because, as you can see, Rodriguez was very
broad, people were like, oh, I have 3 lanes, I can do whatever I want,
and then all of a sudden, it was just 2 and 2.
555
01:19:38.730 --> 01:19:49.670
Quinlan Conf Room: And people noticeably, maybe you will receive it with
actual data, but from where I live, that's exactly what happened there.
People saw the world was narrower, so they stopped, like.
556
01:19:49.670 --> 01:20:05.790
Quinlan Conf Room: driving super, super fast, and so I'm just wondering
if we can put, like, an island, like, all the way… it's a big project,
but as an example, you put, like, a big island with, like, I don't know,
trees, some options, of course, to do U-turns, because some people, some
residents will want to, you know, park.
557
01:20:05.790 --> 01:20:22.309
Quinlan Conf Room: But I think that would, on one way, make the road look
narrower, and then adding this, you know, crosswalk and decons and all
that stuff, I think that would fix the possibility for the pedestrian to
cross over. I would love to do a…
558
01:20:22.500 --> 01:20:25.869
Quinlan Conf Room: along Meeting with trees, honestly.
559
01:20:25.970 --> 01:20:38.370
Quinlan Conf Room: And I think that would help. I can tell you from
experience, though, that I don't think the residents would approve it.
That's what would happen, because they would lose their ability to turn
left in and out of their driveways. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
560
01:20:38.470 --> 01:20:41.409
Quinlan Conf Room: When Apple. Apple developed.
561
01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:46.200
Quinlan Conf Room: Homestead, along the Apple frontage Apple Park.
Median.
562
01:20:46.580 --> 01:20:59.579
Quinlan Conf Room: Apple's gonna pay for it, do it with trees. And they
said, no, we don't want it. So, you could do it in spots, perhaps, where
you don't restrict access to driveways. That's something, you know,
again, it takes money.
563
01:20:59.690 --> 01:21:08.509
Quinlan Conf Room: to do that, but it's something that could be looked
at. Yeah. Maybe I think the immediate thing is, like, you know, having a
crosswalk.
564
01:21:08.690 --> 01:21:13.610
Quinlan Conf Room: Or a Pedestrian, crosswalk, right? That really helped,
right?
565
01:21:13.980 --> 01:21:16.660
Quinlan Conf Room: And hopefully it'll also serve as…
566
01:21:19.260 --> 01:21:33.570
Quinlan Conf Room: as a… I mean, you're not supposed to say that, but
lots of hours a speed limit, right? So… But we have it on this side,
though, right? After Dianza, where it's all Saratoga and San Jose, there
is a median with freeze, isn't it?
567
01:21:34.690 --> 01:21:44.290
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, on the other side of the ends? Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. So, so, so it'll be, like, it'll look like a continuation of
that, right? Yeah. If you do…
568
01:21:44.290 --> 01:21:55.099
Quinlan Conf Room: If you did it, it would look like a combination of
that. Yeah. I have a lower cost for the proposal, like, we can remove the
middle lane, and then two drive lanes, like, they go neighbor, or go,
569
01:21:55.100 --> 01:22:01.580
Quinlan Conf Room: the… there's just a… there's no middle lane, right?
When you drive, like, you feel, oh, you know, there's a car on the other
side, and you feel that.
570
01:22:01.900 --> 01:22:04.400
Quinlan Conf Room: So there is a… it's a lower cost about that one.
571
01:22:05.550 --> 01:22:07.180
Quinlan Conf Room: Just remove the middle lane.
572
01:22:07.630 --> 01:22:08.310
Quinlan Conf Room: ichth.
573
01:22:10.530 --> 01:22:14.339
Quinlan Conf Room: If it's not a problem when people need to make left
turn, right turn, they'll…
574
01:22:14.630 --> 01:22:24.800
Quinlan Conf Room: Because now the buffer rate, so they come to the
buffer and, you know, wait to make a jump, right? Yeah, you might
introduce other safety problems.
575
01:22:25.460 --> 01:22:26.400
Quinlan Conf Room: So…
576
01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:31.800
Quinlan Conf Room: I think, you know, if you can pull up that slide that,
where we are showing both events…
577
01:22:34.430 --> 01:22:42.439
Quinlan Conf Room: Sure, maybe close the public comment? Yes, you should
probably post it, yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much for your
presentation. Thank you.
578
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:00.350
Quinlan Conf Room: Richmond?
579
01:23:01.870 --> 01:23:04.330
Quinlan Conf Room: The one you had… yeah, this one, yeah, yeah.
580
01:23:05.320 --> 01:23:18.100
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah. So, I'm just speaking from, you know, the
experience, right? Because I live on Metro, and we installed, you know,
quite a few crosswalks, and also, you know, the flashing cross… crossing
thing.
581
01:23:18.380 --> 01:23:20.260
Quinlan Conf Room: I can guarantee you that no.
582
01:23:20.480 --> 01:23:37.529
Quinlan Conf Room: vast majority of mine leavers, they are highly
thankful for what has been done there, because now they are able to cross
Bicycle Road whenever they want, wherever they want. Previously, you
know, they would just, you know, look at a jawwalk and, you know, kind of
cross and, you know, very distance, right?
583
01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:40.250
Quinlan Conf Room: So, the remover, they're back.
584
01:23:40.360 --> 01:23:54.279
Quinlan Conf Room: it was only 11th that we had a flashing, and the next
one was, you know, I think it came, right? And then next was telling us,
right? So, now we have a lot more, and, you know, we have the flashing,
you know, lights, right?
585
01:23:54.300 --> 01:24:01.330
Quinlan Conf Room: I think, you know, we should look at something like
that in our office, right? Because we are a resident living in any one of
these places, right? So…
586
01:24:01.550 --> 01:24:04.100
Quinlan Conf Room: This is a long stretch, like, from here.
587
01:24:04.610 --> 01:24:14.370
Quinlan Conf Room: You know, where Sterling becomes prospect, and to
Bonsai, there is not a single cross. Actually, there are people, you
know, wanting to cross, they're exposed.
588
01:24:15.010 --> 01:24:22.250
Quinlan Conf Room: And that's a problem, right? So, we should really
seriously think about, you know, talk to Saratoga about, you know, from
a…
589
01:24:22.250 --> 01:24:39.210
Quinlan Conf Room: this part to this part, we should at least consider,
you know, two, three crosswalks where, you know, people don't have to go
all in, because they have to cross, they have to go to this place, cross,
right? Nobody from here that wants to go here is not going to go walk
and, you know, make a cross and then come back here.
590
01:24:39.620 --> 01:24:42.890
Quinlan Conf Room: Okay? But they're not gonna go from here.
591
01:24:43.110 --> 01:24:54.360
Quinlan Conf Room: all the way to here to cross, and then to come back,
right? So, they want to cross wherever, you know, they want, because the
people living here, community of people, and they're Saratoga people
living there, right? They just want to go and visit neighbors and
whatnot, right? So.
592
01:24:54.680 --> 01:25:02.860
Quinlan Conf Room: We should facilitate that, right? So, whatever it
takes, you know, how many ever, you know, crosswalks, we should look at
that. Because at the end of the day, you know.
593
01:25:03.020 --> 01:25:04.119
Quinlan Conf Room: These are…
594
01:25:04.470 --> 01:25:20.220
Quinlan Conf Room: amenities for the community and for the residents,
including the streets, right? And you don't serve the street, right? Not
for, you know, some thoroughfare traffic, you know, going from, you know,
one city to other streets, right? This is not a free highway. These
streets are meant for, you know, people that are living here.
595
01:25:21.770 --> 01:25:32.900
Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, what makes this tree probably particularly
vulnerable is because it's so wide, it's so, like, open. Even installing,
I mean, I know this is not the intention of a crosswalk, but installing
two
596
01:25:33.050 --> 01:25:40.450
Quinlan Conf Room: Probably will slow down calls. And I don't think, you
know, it's going to hinder traffic that much, because, you know.
597
01:25:40.860 --> 01:25:45.640
Quinlan Conf Room: people are not going to be like, you know, the ports
of people will be crossing, right? Whenever they want to cross.
598
01:25:45.690 --> 01:25:52.949
Quinlan Conf Room: they should be in the cross, right? So if you have
flashing beacon thing, you know, let's say, you know, here, so then.
599
01:25:52.950 --> 01:26:09.690
Quinlan Conf Room: you know, the moment they press it, and, you know, and
it flashes, and the cars slow down and stop, and, you know, if you have
speed bumps, you know, that makes it even easier for them to slow down
and stop, right? Or… or race, you know, Pedestrian crossing, right? So…
and… so then they safely cross, and then the rest of the time, you know,
the cars are flowing smooth.
600
01:26:09.850 --> 01:26:15.129
Quinlan Conf Room: 3. Right? It's only when a participant needs to cross,
they're able to safely cross.
601
01:26:17.140 --> 01:26:17.930
Quinlan Conf Room: Yep.
602
01:26:19.210 --> 01:26:22.880
Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, it sounds like there is already a provision in
the ATP.
603
01:26:22.990 --> 01:26:25.909
Quinlan Conf Room: Sounds like chips, one of these are probably…
604
01:26:26.080 --> 01:26:32.840
Quinlan Conf Room: One of the projects that we should be lobbying once
the book, we should be starting pushing for…
605
01:26:33.220 --> 01:26:35.409
Quinlan Conf Room: Or is this one of the problems?
606
01:26:35.660 --> 01:26:37.190
Quinlan Conf Room: To be implemented.
607
01:26:38.870 --> 01:26:39.660
Quinlan Conf Room: Right?
608
01:26:44.480 --> 01:26:48.810
Quinlan Conf Room: Any other comments from the Commission? Any other…
Thoughts?
609
01:26:49.910 --> 01:26:56.899
Quinlan Conf Room: I want to re… say that that's the, you know, the Via
Rakuten… is it via Rakuten? Rakuten?
610
01:26:57.170 --> 01:27:03.610
Quinlan Conf Room: That's the… that's the entry to the, for all the
cyclists, they go… they call it the Saratoga Maze.
611
01:27:03.990 --> 01:27:20.020
Quinlan Conf Room: you know, so you draw… you enter, and you go through
Saratoga, it's a windy path, you end up in, you know, hundreds, thousands
of cyclists probably do it every week, and it's recreational-type
cycling, but I wonder if young kids are crossing that road, because
612
01:27:20.270 --> 01:27:28.840
Quinlan Conf Room: entering it, of course, no problem if you're coming
from Prospect, and then you make that right-hand turn. But then, if
you're going the opposite direction, you're coming out.
613
01:27:28.870 --> 01:27:44.499
Quinlan Conf Room: And I've done this for 40 years, it's like, the cars,
like, are… they're… they're going fast right now, and that's what I was…
that's why I asked what the speed, what the, you know, has… have the cars
slowed down? In my experience, no, and as an experienced cyclist.
614
01:27:44.500 --> 01:27:59.109
Quinlan Conf Room: getting across that, because it is so wide, it's… it's
not easy. You gotta really be, you know, have your, be on the ball, and I
can't imagine anybody trying to walk across that road. It's just…
especially if you're older. I mean, I just… there's just…
615
01:27:59.190 --> 01:28:12.009
Quinlan Conf Room: You're taking your life in your hands, and I've never
been hit, I've never seen anybody get hit, but I'm really careful, and…
but the cars are really going fast. They're going fast, and that's why I
don't think they're going 30.
616
01:28:12.120 --> 01:28:24.700
Quinlan Conf Room: Even now. It's, and I think it's because it's such a
wide road, even with the bike lanes and everything, the perception is
it's not narrow, any narrower. You know, I like the buffered bike lanes,
but
617
01:28:25.050 --> 01:28:37.910
Quinlan Conf Room: It's just so wide that people… they really lay on the…
you know, you're trying to… you got traffic coming at high speeds in both
directions, and you're trying to navigate across that intersection as a
cyclist. It's not easy.
618
01:28:37.910 --> 01:28:47.309
Quinlan Conf Room: And and I've been doing this for 40 years, and I've
always thought, this is really a bad intersection. You know, there's no
crosswalk, what do people do? You know, it's like…
619
01:28:47.310 --> 01:28:50.509
Quinlan Conf Room: It's like, this should have been done years ago. I
mean, it's…
620
01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:55.649
Quinlan Conf Room: And, I just… and I just… I'm just telling you my
experience as a cyclist, you know.
621
01:28:55.740 --> 01:29:04.549
Quinlan Conf Room: the… it's called the Saratoga Maze, and it's, there's
hundreds of… you've probably seen many cyclists come out of there. It's,
it's… so it's…
622
01:29:04.550 --> 01:29:19.240
Quinlan Conf Room: I would just reiterate that something should be done,
you know, soon, you know. I would agree with that. If you look at the
number of lanes right now, you have, like, the buffer bike lane, you have
one lane, and the middle lane, you have the right lane, and then you have
the buffer bike lane again.
623
01:29:19.260 --> 01:29:28.480
Quinlan Conf Room: It's like, it's all paint, right? So, drivers are
like, I just see nothing but paint, and that's my road, and at the end of
the day, I think that makes it probably
624
01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:32.970
Quinlan Conf Room: as wide as the Enza Boulevard.
625
01:29:32.970 --> 01:29:51.180
Quinlan Conf Room: It was probably envisioned to see a four-lane yard.
Yes, exactly. Back in the day. Yeah, so that's why, exactly, it's way…
it's too wide, like, if you don't have, like, any physical protection… No
way, no, no.
626
01:29:56.130 --> 01:30:06.920
Quinlan Conf Room: All right. Unless there is any more discussion to be
had, I think let's, close this one. I think the action is we have to get
ETP approved.
627
01:30:07.090 --> 01:30:15.880
Quinlan Conf Room: We have to get that, and then as far as PEP wants,
it's gonna be one of the first projects that we're ranking,
628
01:30:16.080 --> 01:30:18.269
Quinlan Conf Room: What is the AP people in Wisconsin?
629
01:30:18.410 --> 01:30:24.779
Quinlan Conf Room: I don't have a date, early next year, hopefully
January.
630
01:30:24.900 --> 01:30:38.139
Quinlan Conf Room: Why is it taking so long? It's already, you know,
ready for… Done. It's pretty much done. It's just a sign off. It's, it's…
yeah, it's… it's the final draft is… it's all completed, it just needs
council adoption.
631
01:30:38.380 --> 01:30:40.819
Quinlan Conf Room: It takes 15 minutes.
632
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:58.149
Quinlan Conf Room: So yeah, I'm curious, like, you know, we were rushing,
rushing, rushing, and, you know, we've got to do it, we've got to do it,
we've got to go to council, and all that, and now, you know, next year.
And then there's projects waiting, even, I mean, this sounds like… Don't
tell me.
633
01:30:58.310 --> 01:31:07.719
Quinlan Conf Room: Why is the reason that getting on the agenda is
harder, or is it something else? It's just, we were asked to… we were
asked to put it on the agenda in January.
634
01:31:07.900 --> 01:31:11.979
Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, because there are other agenda items between now
and then? I can't speak to both of them.
635
01:31:12.490 --> 01:31:30.699
Quinlan Conf Room: See, it's all done. Very surprising, very surprising
overall. It's all done. You shouldn't wait till you have to be doing it
now. Three times by the Bike Commission, two times by Planning, two times
by Council, signed off by everybody. What's holding us back. Appreciate
it, you're preaching to the court.
636
01:31:30.700 --> 01:31:32.580
Quinlan Conf Room: So who is asking for January?
637
01:31:33.660 --> 01:31:39.549
Quinlan Conf Room: This came down from upstairs. Upstairs, of course,
upstairs? The manager's office.
638
01:31:40.880 --> 01:31:51.410
Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, I think there's something wrong here. I think we
should… we should, get it on the agenda as soon as possible. It's already
approved, and we have been waiting for, you know, what, a couple of
months now?
639
01:31:52.050 --> 01:31:53.140
Quinlan Conf Room: Are you on more?
640
01:31:53.810 --> 01:32:00.270
Quinlan Conf Room: I think we should make a motion today. Yeah, I think
we should. It's not on the agenda. I know it's not on the agenda, I don't
know.
641
01:32:00.940 --> 01:32:02.950
Quinlan Conf Room: You can put it in the agenda next month.
642
01:32:03.970 --> 01:32:11.329
Quinlan Conf Room: But no, I mean, in all seriousness, I mean, this is
just… we put so much energy into this project, and then we just…
643
01:32:11.690 --> 01:32:17.180
Quinlan Conf Room: come to a screeching halt for no good reason. I think
we should put it on the agenda for next month.
644
01:32:17.520 --> 01:32:32.480
Quinlan Conf Room: And then make a motion. What would you want to put on
the agenda? To really move forward into the council. The only move that
can do that is Council. I think that's the last… No, I don't know, but I
think if we kind of re… somehow I get the other fall asleep somewhere.
645
01:32:32.750 --> 01:32:35.039
Quinlan Conf Room: Somebody was falling asleep on the wheel.
646
01:32:35.290 --> 01:32:52.569
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I thought that it's coming soon. I don't know
why it's still… yeah, our recommendation was to take it in September.
Yeah, and through whatever discussions the city manager's office, the
mayor's office, I don't know if the agenda's too full, or… I don't know
the motive.
647
01:32:52.570 --> 01:32:55.799
Quinlan Conf Room: I just know we were asked to put off till January.
648
01:32:56.000 --> 01:33:05.410
Quinlan Conf Room: Chair, is it possible for you to write to the mayor,
or the council member? Yes, yes. About this one? But I think it probably
would behoove all of us to…
649
01:33:05.410 --> 01:33:17.689
Quinlan Conf Room: Yes. I can join as a resident. As residents as well,
yeah. I mean, there's… there's real projects waiting… waiting to be kind
of executed. I see a… I don't see a good reason why it should be pushed
out.
650
01:33:21.540 --> 01:33:40.739
Quinlan Conf Room: It was all planned, like… Yeah, it… Anyway, we're not
talking about it, but I think it… everybody individually should be, kind
of, reaching out to whoever they feel this is being. Yeah, I mean, I
mean… This was… Nobody…
651
01:33:40.870 --> 01:33:56.730
Quinlan Conf Room: spoke out in support of the ATP, so the people that
make the decisions on when to agendize things haven't heard from anybody
that this is important. So the people that make the decisions, are they
working for citizens, or what are they working for… I'm…
652
01:33:59.140 --> 01:34:02.700
Quinlan Conf Room: I'm just… serious. I can't answer that.
653
01:34:05.810 --> 01:34:06.640
Quinlan Conf Room: Okay.
654
01:34:07.060 --> 01:34:17.609
Quinlan Conf Room: All I know is that's what we were asked to do. Yeah, I
mean, it worked a surprise to me. We worked 2 years on it, and worked
really hard on it, I think, and a lot of…
655
01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:26.420
Quinlan Conf Room: Community input, feedback, planning commissions, bike
commission, bikepack commissions, City Council.
656
01:34:26.820 --> 01:34:44.719
Quinlan Conf Room: And someone is telling me. Because this item isn't
age, we can't speak about it, it's a violation of the Brown Act. I
understand. Thank you very much. Well, it came in as a thought-up,
because we want to push this project as part of TGP, and that's what this
came up with. They got it, we'll take it off. Thank you. I appreciate it.
657
01:34:44.930 --> 01:34:54.440
Quinlan Conf Room: Let's close this item drop-back row now, and let's
move forward into item number 4 on the agenda.
658
01:34:55.880 --> 01:35:01.200
Quinlan Conf Room: Which is, staff update and commission update the
report.
659
01:35:04.410 --> 01:35:10.750
Quinlan Conf Room: My only update, as you all know, the Bike Fest is
coming up in a week and a half, so…
660
01:35:11.110 --> 01:35:16.339
Quinlan Conf Room: Excited about it? Yep. Hopefully seeing most of you
there.
661
01:35:17.520 --> 01:35:25.709
Quinlan Conf Room: The, Stevens Creek Class 4 bike lane project is… the
contractor's all done, he's out of there, so… doing some training.
662
01:35:26.170 --> 01:35:32.290
Quinlan Conf Room: Work with our signal staff to get some of the traffic
signal, stuff operational.
663
01:35:32.460 --> 01:35:49.499
Quinlan Conf Room: One item of which I think will probably go towards,
you know, you were getting at earlier, Alonville, in terms of, enhancing
safety at the ends and Stevens Creek, and we'll be turning on the
flashing yellow arrow, flashing yellow right turn arrows that come up for
the pedestrian.
664
01:35:49.730 --> 01:35:54.330
Quinlan Conf Room: Phase is active, so that'll… hopefully in the next
couple weeks, those will be turned on.
665
01:35:55.410 --> 01:36:02.119
Quinlan Conf Room: we're wrapping up our collection of data for the
engineering traffic surveys, which will
666
01:36:02.290 --> 01:36:04.709
Quinlan Conf Room: Establish the speed limits around the city.
667
01:36:05.860 --> 01:36:17.900
Quinlan Conf Room: We'll be doing crossing guard calls. The crossing
guard… The crossing guard warrants, are in progress. We'll be doing
counts at all the intersections where we've had requests for crossing
guards.
668
01:36:18.700 --> 01:36:23.750
Quinlan Conf Room: And, that's… my update.
669
01:36:24.610 --> 01:36:27.469
Quinlan Conf Room: So, any other updates from Commissioners?
670
01:36:31.380 --> 01:36:36.110
Quinlan Conf Room: Just have, one comment about the, Bike Fest. Has any…
I don't…
671
01:36:36.410 --> 01:36:40.510
Quinlan Conf Room: I don't think we've been contacted. Has anybody been
contacted by,
672
01:36:40.660 --> 01:36:54.219
Quinlan Conf Room: Who's ever organizing the short ride? I haven't
either, and so I don't know if we're just showing… I have no information
on it. That's my understanding as well, yeah, we'll be there, we'll get a
briefing on the day when…
673
01:36:54.380 --> 01:37:08.389
Quinlan Conf Room: That's my understanding. We just… we don't have any…
do we have times, or… I don't know… I don't think we have any details on…
There was some time. Yeah, the Meeting for the chaperone would think.
Okay, this is 9 o'clock.
674
01:37:08.740 --> 01:37:21.229
Quinlan Conf Room: So it's in the morning, but yeah, I think it wasn't
any slides. That was presented by Burchett, maybe. Yes, the last meeting.
I just wanted to confirm, because I haven't heard anything, I haven't
seen any email, and
675
01:37:21.740 --> 01:37:23.309
Quinlan Conf Room: And… Yep.
676
01:37:24.610 --> 01:37:29.900
Quinlan Conf Room: I don't think there was any additional information
other than what was presented in our last month,
677
01:37:30.130 --> 01:37:36.560
Quinlan Conf Room: Because I heard that, you know, we… the… the Tim
Weeds…
678
01:37:36.890 --> 01:37:50.009
Quinlan Conf Room: Tim Wee, who's organizing it, who's looking for 18
volunteers, you know, to… to monitor the intersection, so that's quite a
few. And, I just… hopefully we're in the count, I mean, we're, you know.
679
01:37:50.160 --> 01:37:53.299
Quinlan Conf Room: There's four of the commissioners going to show up?
680
01:37:53.540 --> 01:37:55.499
Quinlan Conf Room: Is that related to what is it?
681
01:37:56.150 --> 01:38:04.950
Quinlan Conf Room: Let me see. September 26th. Next, not this coming
Saturday, but the Saturday. I'll be there as well.
682
01:38:06.710 --> 01:38:10.339
Quinlan Conf Room: All right, I think we got… 26, correct, John. 26,
yeah.
683
01:38:10.910 --> 01:38:18.930
Quinlan Conf Room: is a Saturday. Any other… Staff report, commission
report, sounds like we are closing this item,
684
01:38:19.770 --> 01:38:25.729
Quinlan Conf Room: Moving to the future agenda setting, which is item
number 5 on the agenda tonight.
685
01:38:26.210 --> 01:38:33.879
Quinlan Conf Room: I think we should make sure that this Vision Zero
refresh update will be Included here.
686
01:38:35.170 --> 01:38:45.110
Quinlan Conf Room: And so this is part of this two-step process. You'll
remember this is the broader kind of list, and then we have a specific
list for the next two meetings that you need to look at as well.
687
01:38:45.740 --> 01:38:48.329
Quinlan Conf Room: Which is the October and the November meeting.
688
01:38:49.910 --> 01:38:58.740
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, so Vision Zero… I don't know that we'll be…
Ready in November.
689
01:39:06.090 --> 01:39:09.020
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, let's just… let's just leave that crossed out
for now.
690
01:39:09.200 --> 01:39:14.400
Quinlan Conf Room: E-bike and e-mo, as we talked about earlier, Gerhardt,
that'll be… that'll be November.
691
01:39:14.890 --> 01:39:16.750
Quinlan Conf Room: Chris, yup.
692
01:39:18.930 --> 01:39:31.740
Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, it would be ideal if we could do the Vision
Zero, I don't know if this is… I'll try. Yeah. Maybe at least we'll put a
placeholder as November, and then if it can't, then we can try to push it
to December. Okay. Yeah.
693
01:39:37.180 --> 01:39:49.679
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, we don't want another incident to happen to
start acting out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What else do we have for October? I
think we had October now. October's the bike racks, also. Yes, the bike
racks, yeah.
694
01:39:50.280 --> 01:39:59.019
Quinlan Conf Room: And then post possibly an update or a debrief from the
Bike Fest, maybe, as well. Yeah, if Beer gets available, we'll do that.
695
01:39:59.220 --> 01:40:05.939
Quinlan Conf Room: So, so, bike racks, you know, that we came up with
some recommendations. So, what's happening on those?
696
01:40:06.310 --> 01:40:14.949
Quinlan Conf Room: We're, we're… we're researching, kind of, exact
locations. So, Prashantha's going out to all the sites, he's gonna bring,
697
01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:28.759
Quinlan Conf Room: like, photos of the locations and show exactly what
we're thinking in terms of location and configuration of the racks, just
to get a final… There will be the October meeting for me to do specific
to see it before, it goes…
698
01:40:29.010 --> 01:40:34.509
Quinlan Conf Room: Like, this is the final location. That would be the
October meeting. That would be the October meeting. Yep, yep, yep.
699
01:40:37.530 --> 01:40:43.840
Quinlan Conf Room: for the October meeting, then for the November
meetings, we would have eModo, update, and… and…
700
01:40:43.990 --> 01:40:52.140
Quinlan Conf Room: Possibly the, possibly the vision, yeah. I think that
gives us two good… I think that's good. For both meetings, yeah.
701
01:40:52.380 --> 01:40:53.900
Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, wonderful.
702
01:40:54.040 --> 01:40:59.049
Quinlan Conf Room: Any other new items that you should be considering, or
are we good on that?
703
01:41:02.430 --> 01:41:03.540
Quinlan Conf Room: Not a big deal.
704
01:41:06.860 --> 01:41:12.580
Quinlan Conf Room: And the AIC that we basically will start to delete,
too.
705
01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:19.089
Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, I don't know if it can even…
706
01:41:20.480 --> 01:41:28.570
Quinlan Conf Room: I don't know what you… I think it's probably equally
impactful if all of us individually write to the Commission about it.
707
01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:29.670
Quinlan Conf Room: Okay.
708
01:41:31.180 --> 01:41:43.470
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, because you already made a motion to recommend…
Yeah, from our perspective, it's an approved item, it's an approved item,
so I think we should probably be visually write that out to the, to the
Commission, sorry, to the Council.
709
01:41:50.910 --> 01:41:53.790
Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. And we should do this as clearly as possible.
710
01:41:54.810 --> 01:42:00.589
Quinlan Conf Room: Alright, anything else on the… future items. There's…
711
01:42:06.070 --> 01:42:12.960
Quinlan Conf Room: I have a… the Wolf Road Interchange, we've… we've
never… have we ever received a presentation on that?
712
01:42:13.230 --> 01:42:16.820
Quinlan Conf Room: It's, you know, the one that's undergoing construction
right now.
713
01:42:17.340 --> 01:42:18.240
Quinlan Conf Room: Go ahead.
714
01:42:18.410 --> 01:42:21.140
Quinlan Conf Room: the bike lanes, and… I think so.
715
01:42:21.400 --> 01:42:23.469
Quinlan Conf Room: It's a while back, yeah.
716
01:42:24.020 --> 01:42:30.009
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah. The most… the final version, the final version.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
717
01:42:30.410 --> 01:42:32.139
Quinlan Conf Room: Getting yourself.
718
01:42:34.060 --> 01:42:40.729
Quinlan Conf Room: Anyway, I think that gives us good for October,
November now, and then I think next Monday we can have simple planning.
719
01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:45.289
Quinlan Conf Room: All right, I think this is an item where we have also
public comment.
720
01:42:45.530 --> 01:42:51.049
Quinlan Conf Room: Do you have any public comments on this topic? We have
no speakers. No speaker, wonderful, thank you.
721
01:42:51.440 --> 01:43:02.700
Quinlan Conf Room: Excellent. That means that was our final and last item
for tonight. Just want to remind all of us, the next meeting, our next
meeting is on October 21.
722
01:43:03.150 --> 01:43:07.560
Quinlan Conf Room: in this… in this location here, and I'm adjourning
this meeting here at…
723
01:43:07.680 --> 01:43:11.140
Quinlan Conf Room: 43. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.