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Quinlan Conf Room: Commissioner Hansen?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Commissioner Padd.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I'm sorry. Yay, here, vice chair, Carter.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Here.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Chair Pham? Present. For the record, Commissioner
Hansen is absent. And before we proceed, Chair, Commissioners, and
members of the public, Vice Chair Carter is participating remotely this
evening.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We have not heard from any members of the public that
they plan to participate in tonight's meeting from Vice Chair Carter's
remote location. Vice Chair Carter, IEY 21411 Bay Avenue, Cupertino,
California, 95014.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Yes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Can you confirm that you posted the agenda at your
location?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Yes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Are there any individuals over the age of 18 with you?
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Quinlan Conf Room: who have indicated that they wish to make public
comment or address the Commission.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: No.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I'll rely on you to notify me if any member of the
public wishes to speak from your location. Thank you.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I have heard of nothing.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Alright. Thank you so much. Let's go ahead with the
approval, the approval of minutes. We've got 2 min on the agenda, which
is April 16th and May 21.st Do we have to do this in one or 2 actions.
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Quinlan Conf Room: 2 actions. Okay, is there a motion and a second to
approve the Sustainability Commission minutes from April 16.th
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Quinlan Conf Room: I can do that.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I… I make a motion to approve.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I second.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Awesome. Shall we proceed with the roll call?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Chair Hansen is absent. Commissioner Pat Gokar? Yes.
Commissioner Yang? Yep. Vice Chair Carter?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Yay.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Chair.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Vice Chair Carter, was that a name?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: That's a… I'm sorry, that was with a Y, that's a
yes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, okay, that was a yes. Chair Fung. Aye. The motion
carries unanimously with Commissioner Henson absent.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Alright, thank you so much. Let's proceed with the May
21st Commission minutes. Is there a motion and a second?
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Quinlan Conf Room: I can motion.
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Quinlan Conf Room: approve the minutes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: A second?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Alright.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Commissioner Nansen is absent. Commissioner Pat
Gomkard? Yes. Commissioner Yang? Yep. Vice Chair Carter?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Yes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Chair Fung? Yes. The motion carries with Commissioner
Hansen absent.
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Quinlan Conf Room: All right. Thank you so much. And let's move on to the
next item on the agenda. Seeing that there are no postponements, we can
move on to the oral communications. Are there any oral communications for
today? We have no speakers here.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Alright, seeing that there are no members of the
public here, we can move on to staff and commission reports.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Great. I just have a few calendar updates for you. Our
next compost education
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Quinlan Conf Room: Workshop is planned for August 1st.
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Quinlan Conf Room: The Environmental Waste and Paper Shredding Day is
August 29th. The Creek Cleanup will be September 19th.
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Quinlan Conf Room: The annual garage sale will be September 19th and
20th, and then the annual bike fest will be September 24th.
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Quinlan Conf Room: You know, if you need specific times or dates for
those.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Additionally, our Waste Warriors application is open
as of Monday. That is the turn… the title for the Commissioner project.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then my last update is that we got approved budget
for a new sustainability part-time intern. So this intern will be working
on the new state law about not watering grass.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So maybe 1572.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Were you the hiring manager? I will be, yes. Oh, yeah.
So they're going to report directly to you. Yeah.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Let's discuss.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Alright, thank you so much. Are there any other
questions?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Mission updates?
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Quinlan Conf Room: No commission updates. I just have a comment. Can I do
it now or later? Later.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Did you learn anything at the the meeting last night?
Yeah. So that was my 1st commission chair meeting with the mayor. It was
last night. So we selected the the crest awards winners. So that was
quite fun.
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Quinlan Conf Room: There were a lot of applications. I'm not gonna review
the winners here, since it's a public meeting.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But a lot of the applications were basically voided.
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Quinlan Conf Room: they they didn't count because a lot of the applicants
didn't follow instructions. I kind of feel bad. That's more than half of
them were moved.
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Quinlan Conf Room: There will not be a Business of the Year, because,
again, just, yeah, people not following instructions. But instead, there
will be two winners for the Rising Star Award.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And…
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then there's a lot of concerns, I think, and
suggestions from other chairs about how the criteria of the CREST awards
needed to be changed. So what the next Mayor's Commission chair meeting,
that's what we'll talk about in September. But yeah, it was productive.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Thanks for asking. Are there any other commission
reports?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Alright. If I share, Carter, do you have anything?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: No.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Alright, sounds good then. Then let's move on to our
next item, old business, and there are no old business. So, under new
business, we've got agenda item 3, strategies for identifying and
engaging local stakeholders to advance climate goals.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yes, I didn't prepare a PowerPoint for this one,
because I didn't want to sway your conversation. However, I am here to
participate in the conversation, you can ask me questions about what
we're currently doing, but I know that you all are going to give us some
new strategies.
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Quinlan Conf Room: What we maybe haven't considered yet.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So with that we can go to questions or public comment.
If there's any questions.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I do, and I'll just start with, reading the
recommended action of this item, which is for the Commission to identify
opportunities to engage with local contractors, realtors, HOAs, and labor
organizations, and provide other recommendations to staff. So…
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Quinlan Conf Room: I'll open it up for the commission. So is there a
particular area we are looking at, or…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Nope, this item was proposed by you all for how we
might network better with those groups.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Want to narrow it down?
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Quinlan Conf Room: So… So.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Kind of blanking here, but sorry.
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Quinlan Conf Room: This is regarding sustainability. So Do we want to,
like, narrow it down to certain things, like… Material recycling.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Getting sustainable material, or what kind of things?
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Quinlan Conf Room: I think that's all for you to decide. The way that the
item was written, it just said to promote climate action.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So that could be greenhouse gases or building energy
is, I believe, what we talked about when we
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Quinlan Conf Room: Grant wrote this out, but we didn't want to limit it
to just building energy at the time.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We can talk about water and how we're going to do our
turf education to stop watering. That's commercial in HOA. We could talk
about compliance with energy benchmarking and reporting building.
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Quinlan Conf Room: usage for energy. We could talk about waste and how
we're complying with AB 1383, SB 1383.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And what we're doing to educate different sectors
there. So that's why I didn't want to sway you. Like, there's
conversations about green biz or.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Transportation.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Sorry to interject there. Maybe it'll be helpful for
you to share, maybe like a quick 1 min overview of the different types of
outreach programs that you have. I know we are out there boothing.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then there's the Youth Climate Conference coming
up, and sometimes the commissioners, those are also shared.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But from staff's perspective, if you have like a
strategy or like an outline of what you're already doing, then that would
be very helpful. Our standard protocol, we have different levels of
engagement, right? So if we are promoting a survey, it might be an online
promotion, doing tabling that you've all helped us with.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Most of our, like, workshops that are available, it's
mostly just social media. For garage sale, we'll do some additional,
like, print ad newspaper.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Marketing, for waste in 1383, you actually have to
visit all of our commercial businesses in person annually. So those are
like the main strategies we have right now is like digital print flyers.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Newspapers, social media, this is digital, and then
some door-to-door.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And I… and did you mention that you also have a
dashboard that would communicate the city's climate progress, right, or…
We do have several different types of… so our Climate Nav Hub is, like,
our one central place of, like, what communities can do to take action,
and then what is the city doing?
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then we just have so much content on our websites
that we very frequently just point back to certain web pages.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Check.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Do we have, when somebody is applying to build
something.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Do we have a way to…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: get the builder some new information about what
is available for this stuff. Because if I was a builder.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I would be tired, and I would do the least I
could in order to move forward. And I'm… so I'm not reading up, I'm not
up to date.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: They don't… I don't know that if, you know,
maybe doing green stuff is more economical. I don't know.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I'm just wondering when… so, I think
Cupertino's…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: opportunity, and this might be just, you know,
way too much work for Cupertino, but Cupertino's opportunity is they have
to… if someone has to apply to get a permit.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: And that's our, that's our hook. And I was
wondering if that would be a conduit.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: To maybe getting more, sustainable building.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, we do have a trifold handout at the building
counter for specifically education around heat pumps.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Because they're supposed to get a permit for heat
pumps so that you can consider your options.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then other resources and rebates available around
heat pumps.
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Quinlan Conf Room: heat pumps. So the water heating and space heating to
go from gas to electric. So that is like a very streamlined permitting
process that just gives you some more education and options specifically
for rebates and why you should switch.
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Quinlan Conf Room: and so we keep that pretty consistent.
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Quinlan Conf Room: a few years ago, when we had our Climate Victory
Gardens program, we actually did a big effort to remove permit barriers
for, landscape conversion, if you're going from grass to, water…
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Quinlan Conf Room: drought, restrictive landscaping because we didn't
want people to have to go through an additional permitting process just
to re landscape and doing the right thing.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So it depends on what exactly you're talking about.
But most of our building permit counters and and permit processes just
have to comply with our municipal code. So there's not
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Quinlan Conf Room: A whole lot of choice.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: No, we're not… I'm not talking about forcing
people to do anything. It's just more like…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: if I'm putting up, you know.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: If I'm building a new fr… if I'm framing out a
house and everything, there might be…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: New gypson… gypson… Greener…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: what do you call it, drywall, options, or
whatever. I mean, just as things change constantly, and maybe just…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: that they just get an informational, not
something that says, no, you can't do this, or you have to do it this
way. It's just like saying, here are the options that we, you know.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: we think are pretty cool if you want to do it or
flop better wording, of course, than that. But.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Hey, is it a… extending from what he's saying, right?
So…
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Quinlan Conf Room: We built our house, and at every point we had to have
an inspection done.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Right? So, is there a way we can enforce
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Quinlan Conf Room: if you don't want to say enforce, but sustainability,
inspection like whatever they could do. Have they done it or not?
Normally, people do like we have entities in our house because we want
electricity bills to lower whatever right? But there are other things we
never thought about.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, our Climate Action Plan is actually CEQA
qualified, which means that when people submit for building a larger
project, residential and commercial, they have to fill out our CEQA
streamlined checklist. And that tells us how sustainable they're being.
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Quinlan Conf Room: It is not… you hear about CEQA exempt all the time,
and, like, most residential projects are CEQA exempt, so they don't have
to comply. It's more of an informational gathering exercise for us right
now.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Because they don't need to fill it out so we can't
require them to do a lot of the things. Do you have statistics how many
people are doing it and how you know.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We're doing what? Sorry. How many people are filling
this and how many people are not? They have to fill it. They have to fill
it out. Whether or not they're doing it. Well, they have to be different.
We can't enforce them to do it. So there's no code enforcement piece to
that. We just have an informational database.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And that is through the building permit system.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Okay, that's closer to what I was asking about.
I mean.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I think sometimes people…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: aren't aware that there are options there that
are that are actually going to do do well. So.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And that checklist covers everything. It was built
from our climate action plan. So it goes into foodware, it goes into bike
racks and how many bike racks they have. It goes into what appliances
they're installing. It's very detailed.
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Quinlan Conf Room: What is the name that I have never heard? Acequa? C-E-
Q-A?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Streamlined checklist.
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Quinlan Conf Room: When did this start?
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Quinlan Conf Room: With the adoption of our climate action plan, it had
to be 22. Yeah, it had to be approved by the state that we qualify and
meet these targets and can ask these questions. I have a question, but
let me know if it's off topic. If it is, then we can go past it.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I have a quick question about SEO, so search engine
optimization. I'm wondering, you mentioned newspaper, digital, social
media, all that stuff. Which one has been the most effective based off
what you've seen? That's such a great question and something that I think
about as I Google our own web pages.
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Quinlan Conf Room: that they don't come up very high in our ranking. And
I have worked with IT, not for a while now, but our website views are
pretty low. Waste. Everyone loves waste. And those are our pages that are
visited the most by far. It's when someone types it up versus when they
click a link that.
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Quinlan Conf Room: redirects them to that system.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, so, like, I've been seeing a lot of, yeah, just
a lot of optimization, like, analytics, and I'm wondering what works
with, what works for the city of Cupertino, and then how do we maximize,
you know, what people are going to? Is it QR codes? Is it these, is it
these, like, booths? Like.
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Quinlan Conf Room: what what are we missing? And then how do we like?
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Quinlan Conf Room: target that and exemplify. So the thing is that this
is not a required thing, right? Like
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Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, no, sustainability. Nothing. It's not like they're
high on people's minds. Yeah, they don't wake up and be like, how can I
be more sustainable? But when they get that rabbit hole, they're like,
oh, I want to learn more. Wait, I didn't know about that. Oh, now I can
see this thing. So I'm wondering, like, what is their mind map?
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Quinlan Conf Room: And how do we kind of navigate that for them, guide
them through that? Friendly reminder, we're in question period.
Downstairs is what works for.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Get the team up.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Well, my question is, do you have it? The staff have
any specific engagements with the business community.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Now.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Besides waste audits and foodware ordinance. Yeah, we
do a lot of restaurant audits to comply with, make sure they're compliant
with foodware and a lot of, business.
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Quinlan Conf Room: for educating around waste sorting. But that's because
it's been state law. We had green biz.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Are you familiar with that? Green business has been
defunded at the county level as of last year.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So before COVID, Cupertino would expand the county's
program by offering like a white glove service where we would come in and
actually sit with them while they filled out the application and gave
them gift cards to go to Staples to buy the recycled paper and to help
them find what printer worked.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And we spent many hours as staff sitting down and
working with the businesses.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But they had to go through the inspection process at
the county, which no longer is an option.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Is this related to the funding that was also dismissed
last year? I forgot the name of it. But there was a grant where we
applied for, and it was looking good, and then it just got dropped. I
think it's different. Is that different? Yeah.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I was thinking same thing. Can we have a grant for
that somewhere from somewhere? Well, the audits would have to come from
the county.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, unless the county applied for a grant and received
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Quinlan Conf Room: Then then the city wouldn't be able to administer that
just on the city level.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, we could help them implement the actions, they
just wouldn't get the recognition for it. Can we do the citywide
resolution?
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Quinlan Conf Room: So we have to use it county-wide.
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probably, but…
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Quinlan Conf Room: there is something that's smaller on smaller scale.
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Quinlan Conf Room: State or national. I think they had it nationally, but
it was really recognized in California, and so they, as their business
would get certified, they would would be on a huge map of all of the
other green businesses, and they have that sticker or not sticker they
have. I remember that. So why, why did they drop that?
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Quinlan Conf Room: The county's in a huge budget deficit. I think they're
in a billion dollar deficit this year. I don't understand this in
California, but anyway…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, that's what I've heard Where did it go wrong?
Well, it's all of the federal.
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Quinlan Conf Room: This is, again, again, business-related, but a lot of
businesses have their lights on at night.
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see why they have their lights on.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Right? So either they can do the automated thing
where, you know, when people enter, it turns on.
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until you have solar, and it's operating on solar.
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some requirements that the offices have to keep some lights on. Yeah, I
think it's, like, a mix of fire…
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You should see. Yeah, I walked through Main Street, you know, and it.
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offices. I mean, yeah, I It's… it's…
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Quinlan Conf Room: So that is another thing I think about. So the gas
thing is, is it dead, or is it going to come again back?
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Quinlan Conf Room: The ban on natural gas for new infrastructure? Is that
what you're talking about? For the businesses? Yeah.
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Quinlan Conf Room: For the businesses, they went back because of
Berkeley, right?
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Quinlan Conf Room: We do have a reach code for energy efficiency score,
but that's slightly different. They can meet that score through a number
of different ways, including electric appliances.
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Quinlan Conf Room: but it doesn't restrict. If they install gas lines at
all. So do we have statistics on this also, like how many businesses are
compliant like, can we show that somewhere saying that? Okay? Because for
climate action also, we might need that information.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We have statistics if there's development, recent
development, right? But we're not going door to door to see if what type
of water heater people have.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But it's not. But then we are saying that the only new
for only new businesses we are seeing whether they have. They are meeting
that energy efficiency. Yeah, not for the old existing buildings. No,
okay.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Sometimes should we start the existing buildings? So
that's a huge, huge project right now. So,
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Quinlan Conf Room: The state has passed AB802, which is energy
benchmarking. That's what we had the presentation on a while ago. So
buildings over 50,000 square feet have to report if they're… how
efficient their buildings are, and this is all existing buildings.
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performance of those buildings. So now they have a baseline for how
efficient they are, and they're saying.
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Quinlan Conf Room: You need to create a standard that it has to be 10%
more efficient in the five years and then 50% more efficient in 10 years
after that. So they're creating, they don't have those thresholds yet.
That was just an example.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But that's a they're the state strategy right now, and
the main strategy people are pushing for existing buildings.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, so does that answer your question? Yes. Okay. So
in the in the like next few months or next year.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, the one I'm asking her, she's a Gen Z or whatever,
but… Oh, yeah.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But I, like… If we can have a program on Instagram,
right? Like, people sometimes, how it goes viral…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Who is in charge of our Instagram, by the way? Sorry,
that's just off topic. Our city manager's office.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We can't have our own social media pages for just
environmental.
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Quinlan Conf Room: for social media. We have to ask and get a label for
everything. Yeah, like, we can show them a draft, and then if they
approve it, go on the page type of deal. Okay, how long would that take?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Meaning if we want to do outreach, that's the best,
right? Social media. Social media right now. Like you have a contest of
some kind where people do.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Some small thing, not, like, say, count how many LEDs
you have in your house.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So they do all these kinds of things like I am not
into that a lot. But kids used to do all these kind of challenges right?
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Quinlan Conf Room: People can, people, I'm not sure. I can write that
down. I also don't know if, how, please advise if businesses are more
engaged with.
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residential or youth
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Quinlan Conf Room: meaning that will give them publicity. Yeah, right? So
it's a publicity aspect. Right? For example, it could be a mix of both.
We could do like a treasure. I don't know. I'm just like thinking out
loud like a treasure hunt, you know. Hit up these 3 businesses. Ask about
these questions right?
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Quinlan Conf Room: and kind of like a bingo treasure map. Bingo, like so
many of those things.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So many legal things there. Yeah. But I agree that,
like on Earth Day, you can do a treasure hunt, saying that, find the 3
businesses which have which are using the most sustainable stuff. I
remember last year there was like a Halloween thing, and like they would
have to go door to door to each each door, and then
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Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, I know it's not as… not really a contest, but,
like, they would ask about, and if they answer the question right, or
spun a wheel, they would get candy.
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Quinlan Conf Room: This is like an ice ice bucket challenge. Right?
People used to do that and post it on the Internet. Yes, yeah. So some
something similar to that is Jack away.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, no, his hand is up. Yeah. Jack, go ahead. No,
his hand is up. Yeah. Jack, do you want to share your comments?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Yes,
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public comment first.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I… You were asking for… You were asking for
things about what business would,
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Would… way to encourage businesses, is that
correct?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yes, but we're still in the question period. So if you
have a question like what we're doing right now.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Okay, so I do not have a question, so I'm going
to lower my hand right now.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Then, if it's okay with the commissioners, if we're
done with questions, then let's move on to the discussion.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Are there any public comments we see for this item? We
have no speakers shared. Thank you so much. All right, let's move on to
discussion then. Great. Go ahead, Jenny.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Okay, so when I, as a budding…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: hobby business person, I start looking at stuff
like restaurants and other businesses when I approach their buildings and
what's inside. And one of the things you see on a lot of buildings are
little stickers saying,
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: You know, top… You know, best…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I don't know what they… I can't even remember
right now, but the thing is, if we have a…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: And that'd be, you know, make something that
would be, you know, advantageous.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: But also, another thing is, as an ex-software
engineer, sometimes we would spend
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: inordinate amount of time solving these problems
that I thought would need to be solved, which were really not the main…
not… they're just nits.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: So sometimes you need to look at the whole…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: You know, all the range of things that we want
them to change.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: And say what are the more important things and
and not harp on.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: not bury people with a million different things.
That was… so that's my suggestion, is to narrow down
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: the big requirements, and we… and when the big
requirements get nailed, then we could open up to more of the little…
the, tertiary arguments.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: requirements or whatever. I don't know if any of
that made sense, but
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Quinlan Conf Room: It does. So, this year, we can ask them to shut down
lights every day, when they go out, right? Have the bare minimum lights
possible. And then we also have the…
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Quinlan Conf Room: What is the plastic thingy, right, we have, where they
have to use… not use the plastic.
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Quinlan Conf Room: The foodware ordinance? Yeah. So that one we can see,
people can go and see if this business compliance, and I know that we can
report it.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: But so not, but so not.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Sally, one of the issues about the lights is I
would be asking… Do… if they're using…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Super efficient lighting.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Is it really using up that much energy versus
the security they have of having their place lit up?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: So, and I don't know the quick answer to that.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So Jack, are you saying, so transportation is by far
our greatest greenhouse gas emissions. Are you trying to say that we
should focus on promoting EV chargers at businesses or rebates for EV
chargers at businesses where we're trying to hit the biggest, make the
biggest impact?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Well,
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Probably so. I mean… Okay. I mean, basically, if
we're trying to get… if we're trying to get our numbers down, if we focus
on these… I mean, yes, there's gonna be some low-lying fruit that's
really small, and we can… we can nail it. But… but…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: and generally, if we're trying to get our
numbers down, we need to hit the… the big… you know, the big hitters,
and… but we also have to look at the big hitters and say, is it even
feasible for us? Are we gonna hit the… you know, are… are we gonna…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Will Sacramento destroy, you know, prevent us
from doing it, or whatever?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: But I think you go for the big bucks.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: And then you get your percentages down, and then
we could say, okay, we've, we've, we've dropped this thing.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Our usage by 10%.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Jack, I'm curious. Let's say you had two minutes to
talk to those big bucks or the top whatever businesses that are using the
most energy.
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Quinlan Conf Room: in those 2 min. How would you make your statement?
What would you say to them like you have your soapbox. You have 2 min,
and
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Quinlan Conf Room: they will absorb what you say. What would you give
them? What would you say to kind of empower them?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Well, first of all, yeah, first of all, I want
them to save money.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: So, I'll be talking about money.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: how much… and, and I would be talking about all
the benefits.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: That are benefiting them.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I've gone from being a tree hugger as a teenager
in early 20,
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: to realizing you can't talk about saving the
world. You have to talk about saving
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Their business. And if getting transportation
for their employees
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: And getting those EV things in the parking lot
to attract their employees.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I would sell it like that. You're gonna get
better employees, you're gonna get, you know, healthier employees,
because we're not having as much…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Stuff in the air.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: And we're going to save money, because we're
going to do this efficiently.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Does that make sense, Connie?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah. I mean, you have more sales experience than me,
so I, I, for me, I go to the experts. Well, I, I don't, yeah.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Be aware. Be aware. Being older is doesn't
necessarily mean having good experience.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, when we say transportation, Are we measuring the
vehicles going through Puerto Rico?
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Quinlan Conf Room: When we are saying the gas station.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So we are saying the the if the if it is about the
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Quinlan Conf Room: vehicles going through Cooper Dinho, how can we
control? Right, in Cooper Dinho, we have, like we said, we are second in
Bay Area to have most EV cars.
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Quinlan Conf Room: First is remote. So then… so we are doing our part,
but…
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Quinlan Conf Room: what vehicles are passing through Cupertino, how are
they going to control what kind of emission they will get, right?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, so a lot of that was addressed in the active
transportation plan that was just adopted and that did a very thorough
analysis of how traffic was flowing, how long cars were idling at
different lights, how to improve, like reduce accidents.
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Quinlan Conf Room: How many lanes in order to reduce emissions, and then,
of course, improving bike safety. So I think improving bike safety was a
big focus for that, which is why we've done a lot of our Class 4 bike
lanes, which will significantly cut emissions.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, here is the thing. See, the biggest offices in
Cupertino is Apple.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, mostly people are coming to Apple, are coming from
outside.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So they are not going to ride a bike unless they are
living in Ubering or somewhere else, but…
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Quinlan Conf Room: I am not sure how this is going to help, though.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: You bet.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Eddie.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I rode a bike to, on the… to the other side of
101,
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Multiple times a week, not every day of the
week, but multiple times a week.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: For several different companies.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: So, but the, the biggest issue is it's just
dangerous and we're getting, we're making it better, but the, but it is,
it's hard for people who are not.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Fanatic.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: And I'm sort of a fanatic, but
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I'm just saying, but people do want to… if you
give people good riding routes, and safety…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Then they will… more people will ride.
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Quinlan Conf Room: There is another issue to it, which I have faced,
because even for doing carpooling, when I had kids.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I have kids, but this is a younger, and they had a lot
of activity. I had to pick them up from school. I cannot even do carpool,
because then I had to have my own schedule, so I had to ride my own car.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, it was very hard for even doing carpooling at that
point. Now it's fine, because now they are grown up and they… but now
everybody has their own car. So, that is another issue.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, anyway… But how do you measure that, then? How do
you measure in Cooperative, like…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Did they actually went and did a survey on each light
or? Yeah, you can see traffic flows. A lot of times they use cell phone
data so they can see how many people are pinging to the closest towers.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Well, I have a lot of thoughts. You have to forgive
me. I'm trying not to think as a deputy city manager. I'm trying to think
as a commissioner here.
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Quinlan Conf Room: There's a lot of good ideas, and I want to answer
Staff's question about large businesses versus small businesses. I think
Connie's question for Jack was a smart one about, like, oh, how would you
pitch this to businesses?
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Quinlan Conf Room: You've got…
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Quinlan Conf Room: the small, medium-sized businesses, you also have the
large businesses. The large businesses care a lot more about the PR,
making themselves look like a community partner in the community. The
best way to engage them is probably through the Copacino Chamber.
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Quinlan Conf Room: through their board. The board is made up of really
kind of like board members, mostly
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Quinlan Conf Room: the big names. If you want to engage the small and
medium-sized businesses, I'm a small business owner myself, and
unfortunately, it's very hard to engage these populations. There's a
million things to do, there's a lot of regulations, and there's very
little staff.
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Quinlan Conf Room: The best way, I would say, to be respectful of staff
time is probably partner with the economic development team. I also know
that they… they have a very, very small team over in economic
development.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But, having said that, aside from the team, and having
Jack as our rep on the Economic Development Committee, there's probably
some connections that staff and partner with Jack to leverage to pass on
the resources.
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Quinlan Conf Room: the idea, or the challenge of partnering with the PIO
and obtaining approval to post stuff on the city's social media, I
completely understand it, but I think…
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Quinlan Conf Room: you know, Ice bucket challenge or some fun campaign
idea would be great to start off.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Or even a small video or reel series talking about how
the Waste Warrior Program is going. I agree, like, the reason for… if
they are going to take time to approve it.
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Quinlan Conf Room: then the baseball program will be done, and then they
will approve the view. Yeah, it may take some time, but then it's nice,
like, people love seeing these 20, 25 seconds reels, talking about
people's stories, what…
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Quinlan Conf Room: what the employees are learning and doing. But my
final point here is how do you really get the businesses to care, aside
from money? The other part is the relationships. In the business world,
it's all about leveraging relationships and having a close relationship,
so the best way, actually.
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Quinlan Conf Room: is to do presentations. Make yourself a partner in
partnership with the economic development team. And over time, as you get
to know these people, these big players of Apple or other big companies,
they will actually slowly care and want to look good.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So… - it was, like, my distance.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Also, the big… The big companies are…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: They do move, but they don't around, but they
really don't like to move around.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Whereas a small business, if it's successful,
has to move. So I'm not… if I'm a small businessman.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I will loathe to put in infrastructure.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Invest in infrastructure.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Because I know… I'm gonna just be leaving it
behind.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: In a few years.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: So… my… I guess my… my elevator speech to the
small.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: business person.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Would definitely be different than for the… for
the large, employer.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: It's complicated. You have to do your homework
on who you're talking to.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But the economic development team and your connections
at the Economic Development Committee should give you a good sense of,
like, who you should be talking to, who you can talk to. That's great.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Correct, and they've also they've they've sent
us out to the pub to the businesses to when we're when we're giving them
the
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: The Amnesty Program?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: and so I had to go to a number of businesses to…
Tell them they were…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: you know, we have this MSP program, and they're…
that they noticed that they hadn't been paying or everything.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: And, it was a good opportunity for me to chat
people up, because you… I mean, usually I don't talk very much, you guys
know that. But anyway,
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Quinlan Conf Room: Wait, what? Tell me more.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Yeah. Anyway, that is how it's done, is you
going out and making contact and talking to folks.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I think, Jack, you mentioned that you're going out to
speak with businesses, like, that is so rare. Like, rarely any cities in
California will actually take the time to visit every business. So I
think the relationships that you're building, that is such a bonus.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Well, hopefully, hopefully, this was not just a
1, you know.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: You know, one-time deal. We'll see how things
go.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Meaning otherwise, I mean, I know it's hard for the
staff to go right. You can send like a Google form.
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Quinlan Conf Room: You can create like a form and see what like, and they
just tell them, pester them, that they have to fill it.
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Quinlan Conf Room: whatever information you need. And if you think that
okay, these people are not, then you can kind of filter them and see who
are not very good, or who are, and then just visit those people.
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Quinlan Conf Room: To get an idea.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So…
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Quinlan Conf Room: I think to Connie's point about the SEO, I feel like
that's at least worth like a discussion with the PIO's office to see if
there's anything that we could do to get our pages to pop up more. I
think that's a fair ask. Yeah, I agree.
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Quinlan Conf Room: They definitely spike up when we do. Anytime we do
this.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, absolutely. But then it's not maintained.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So like, how do we keep their nature, though? How do
we make them come back?
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, that is… Updates are not enough, like… So, see,
people normally, if you ask, not very interested in updates, right? Yeah.
So, we said you can enroll and we can send email, so that… we are not
going to send now, right? Whatever happened, right?
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Quinlan Conf Room: The newsletter, the green newsletter, we don't have
any more planned. Yeah, so… Oh. So we are not going to send that.
Otherwise, that is a way to kind of keeping it up, right? Like, with
them.
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Quinlan Conf Room: with the people, because unless and until there is
some project going on, people are not very interested. Yeah. So how
involved are we with like second harvest food banks and food drives? We
definitely have relationships with second harvest and West Valley
community services. Have you done anything with them, or.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Pre covid, we did partner with them to track food
recovery. Now that's all done kind of at the county level and for 1383
and it's man. Oh.
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Quinlan Conf Room: required by the state to do that food collection. So
that's all tracked and reported in the CalRecycle annual report.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Oh.
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Quinlan Conf Room: because, like, correct me if I'm wrong, a lot of the…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Second harvest. The work they do around this area. A
lot of them have to be residents of
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Quinlan Conf Room: Santa Clara County or Commissioner, to pick up those
items. Is that right? Probably I don't know.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. Yeah.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I have a question for the group. So, I love the
Distinguish
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Quinlan Conf Room: between large and small businesses. We also listed, I
believe it was HOAs and contractors.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And if you have any thoughts specifically, HOAs is
going to be a big one for us with the new water regulations, to ask them
to stop watering their grass.
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Quinlan Conf Room: There's a there's a it's like telling them that.
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Quinlan Conf Room: That's like telling them to stop breathing
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Quinlan Conf Room: And if you have specific methods of engaging with
HOAs. Yeah, it can be an invitational thing, right?
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Quinlan Conf Room: we have our so much material right now, right? We have
prepared so much material. You can sort through it and just whatever is
needed for…
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Quinlan Conf Room: they that their purpose we you can do one invitation
invitational stuff like whichever has.
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Quinlan Conf Room: like in Cupertino. I don't know how many places we
have HOA TV. What percentage of HOA makes up?
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Quinlan Conf Room: I don't know. I don't even know how many HOAs we have.
Yeah. If you have contacts at HOAs, I would love it.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So the PIO's office does not have a… Interesting.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, how much we're targeting. So that one we okay, I
don't want to digress. We were. We were planning asking that when we were
doing the regnant thingy.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Because we wanted to see how many kids are coming from
single family homes versus coming from rental places. Right.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So they do need contractors, right? Anyone you think
that's of special importance for engagement, but those were the ones
identified on the agenda item.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So this, I think, is beyond a sustainability thing.
This is a public safety concern that a city does not have. They might,
they might. But when I've asked, they haven't been able to provide that
because I feel like that may that may be a city manager's office endeavor
to like that with their council. So I'll I'll follow up.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Can we ask the mayor, and can we ask the mayor to ask?
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Quinlan Conf Room: City Manager?
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Quinlan Conf Room: I could probably message someone right now. I think
the staff can, because I'm just… that's, like, an emergency management
problem. That is also… and you know how many… how many single-family
homes in Cupertino are rented?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Many of them. So even we don't have that data also,
like, how many are rented out.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Except my other vendor, actually, owner living there.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Probably look right now, actually.
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Quinlan Conf Room: There's a database, and you can look through this
stuff.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But… Yeah, I feel like…
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Quinlan Conf Room: I feel like this is a city manager's office
discussion. They have the list of HOAs. I think for that, that part
topic, I think we can start from knowing what is, which buildings are HOA
buildings.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We do have, like, the boundary lines of where the HOAs
are, but I don't know that we have good contacts for them.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So the offices of HOA should be the contact, right? I
mean, that should be… if you ask ChatGPT, probably they will…
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Quinlan Conf Room: The list… Do you think that block leaders would be
involved in their HOAs a lot?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Some of them I can ask, but I mean, we can ask there
today. But like most of them are like my house is on a lane like houses.
So it's between two streets. Okay. So all of them are single family.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. But you still have a single family HOA.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, yeah.
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Quinlan Conf Room: only like like the 7 Springs has. Yeah. So 7 Springs
has a very small HOA like, I think it was like 50 ish dollars, not more
than that, like other than like otherwise. Actually, if you have probably
the one
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Quinlan Conf Room: next to the memorial park. The new one might have
more.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But, 7th grade, yeah, like, 50-ish.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Yeah, Seven Springs, I just… yeah, is that in
Cupertino? Because…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, it'.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Everybody there has lawn.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: if you… if… most of the rest of the areas I go
through are… they're all going away from lawns, but Southern Springs is…
is pretty lush.
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Quinlan Conf Room: It's not every in residential homes don't need to
remove it. It's the HOA common areas. Common areas. Yeah. Yeah. All
right.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So now can I make a comment? Now I have to make a
comment.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah. So I'm going to this pottery class in Cupertino.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Pottery. Oh, okay. And so much water wasting.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I'm not sure if there is anything for the pottery
itself. No, when you wash everything you have to wash, you at least use
like one whole 2 buckets of water. And then so she said that they have
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Quinlan Conf Room: where they actually… because there's a lot of clay in
it, so they have where they do strain the clay, but I'm not sure how
efficient it is, and I don't know, because this was built probably in
1950, 60, 70 sometime, I don't…
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Quinlan Conf Room: If it's that efficient or not.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I wonder if that could be considered, like, gray water
afterwards? Well, it depends on what the pottery is. I don't know what
the material, the clay… It is clay supposed to be okay. What kind of
clay? There are multiple types of clay there. Oh, okay.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But they are supposed to be. If it's clean enough,
then they can, like you said, filter it on. Correct. I'm not sure if,
because this is like a old facility, I'm not sure what they have done to
upgrade it.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Like if Potter uses that much water, can you imagine
how much AI infrastructure uses? That's where my head goes. It's like,
oh, I'm sure you saw. Yeah, that's a lot of water.
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Quinlan Conf Room: What?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Well, doesn't the San Jose Water Company
basically handle that by raising the rates the more water they use?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, they have tiered usage rates.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Yeah, okay.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: So, I mean, for… for… I know that when we've…
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: you know, do wonderful things, like forget we
left the sprinkler on for days. We get punished pretty hard, harshly,
financially.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Are we talking about those people in this town
that don't care about the money?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, that's a problem.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But my water will probably triple in the last 10
years, that's what I think.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: You know.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Actually, my electricity bill. Every month, it is
$350. I don't even know what to do.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Don't even know what I'm doing wrong, because my house
is efficient. Just built right now. Everything is efficient.
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Quinlan Conf Room: except for like we have don't have solar, but we we
put everything gas.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We are waiting for the gas equipment to break.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Can I visit one day?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: So do we know whether or not it's the residents
that are using up a lot of water, or whether or not it's businesses?
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Because I, you know, everything I know about
water usage is residential, because that's the world I've lived in.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: But if you're talking about industrial,
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Of course, I don't even know if Cupertino has
industrial users that would use a lot of water.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I think Apple is a big campus.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But they are pretty efficient, so I believe they are
doing
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Quinlan Conf Room: The bar apples on the recycled water.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Yeah.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I, you know, we don't have any data centers.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: And… I'm… I'm not sure the restaurants are
wasting that much water.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, restaurants have to use water to show their
items. Okay, I go to this hairstylist, they use so much water.
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Quinlan Conf Room: right? I feel like they have to, though, and they use
all these coloring that they do. They use all this material. I always
feel not sustainable. Right?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Well, let me try to bring everybody back to the
discussion here, and hmm, there's some interesting stats I'll share with
the staff offline, since it's on the laptop. But, other final
recommendations before we…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Wrap up for staff. What does staff feel like we have?
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Quinlan Conf Room: give it sufficient. I felt like this was a great
brainstorm. Thank you for all of your input.
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Quinlan Conf Room: any other final recommendations. Nope, I'm good.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Nope.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: I'll have all my recommendations after it's too
late.
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Quinlan Conf Room: All right. Thank you so much, everyone. We have one
more item before we adjourn, which is the future agenda setting, upcoming
draft agenda items.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Sam will bring it up on the screen.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, our next meeting, we will have the West Warrior
update, probably.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Don't have it handy.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I can't.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So did you see the dates? Is any date? Because it's
moved to
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Quinlan Conf Room: hmm, some may. Yeah, we can pick one.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Oh. Everybody says 1.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So we have the next October agenda is going to be
pretty full.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And then starting in January, we'll come up with a new
2027 work plan. So at that point, like if you want to start brainstorming
now on what we want to talk about during the first meeting or if there's
other projects that you want to make sure get talked about in the next
year.
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, is there a way you can list what you're working on
right now?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Fine, ask staff. What do you, I mean, all of you,
yeah.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Like our entire team, or just what I'm working on.
Just not the detail, just like topic ones.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I have given that to our new employees, so I do have
an overview of what our entire department does.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yes, that would be great. Okay.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Is that is there a second you want to know? Okay.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Hey, your gatekeeping tutorial, what's up? My face is
like, oh, we do 500 things. Okay, I got it.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But you can share with us. Yeah, we can. Everything we
do is public. Okay, it's just a matter of how to compile it for you.
Right? Right? Gotcha. Cool. Yeah, I would like to know, too.
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Quinlan Conf Room: overview of environmental and sustainability programs,
projects.
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Quinlan Conf Room: That works for your team with a vision.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Pat Gwanker moved, and Phong II.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Second.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Good.
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Quinlan Conf Room: 3rd 4th How many employees are under?
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Quinlan Conf Room: How many? What? Or what's your team size?
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Quinlan Conf Room: It depends on who you count. So, waste is…
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Quinlan Conf Room: One stormwater is three. Then we have an admin and
then myself and Jasmine, who's under me, working on the climate action
side. And then we just got approved for another part time intern. And
then we have an AmeriCorps fellow.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And Ursula. So that's a small team. It's not very many
of us. Oh, it's not as big as I thought
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Quinlan Conf Room: 8?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Depending on how you count it.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Oh.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Small team, big dream.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Trevor Lawrence.
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: Yes, but what we look at actually bleeds across
other commissions. So we
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Jack Carter, Vice Chair: We, as commissioners, need to be sort of aware
of what the other commissions are doing as well.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Are there any other, recommendations, or any other
direction that staff needs to see, probably?
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Quinlan Conf Room: them.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Nope.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Hey? All right, then. Well, before we adjourn, I have
one final announcement I should have given at the Commission report. So a
date is finalized for this year's Commissioner dinner. It's Wednesday,
October 28, th at time. Tbd.
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Quinlan Conf Room: But at least we have the data. Hey? That's awesome.
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Quinlan Conf Room: And with that, we can adjourn at 4:58 PM. Okay, can we
switch it off? I just want to say hi to…
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Quinlan Conf Room: So, Jack, how are you feeling about…