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Quinlan Conf Room: Perfect.
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Quinlan Conf Room: For the minutes, the meeting was called to order at 6
o'clock.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I guess we can conduct the roll call.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Beggar? Yes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Commissioner Klein?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): is absent.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Safaharan? Yes.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And Vice Chair Robert. Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): For the record, Commissioner Kai is
absent.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right, so the first item is the approval.
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Quinlan Conf Room: couple of minutes.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Are there any questions? Oh, yeah, I have
a few… quite a few questions, actually. Right. It's more for the staff.
And for anybody else. So, first of all, this meeting is recorded, isn't
it? Yes. On Zoom? Yes, and then published to this, this city…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Meetings? Yeah, the city? Okay. Do we use
AI Companion to note the meeting minutes?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): We use AI Companion for the transcript.
Okay, and does anyone verify the transcript after? Yes, we have multiple
people in the city clerk's office to verify. Okay. So, I guess, my
question is… there's a lot of things that I thought were a little off
this time.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, one of the first actions I thought we
had taken was that
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): in the interest of time, for both the
Sheriff's Office and as the fire department, I had requested that they
get first on the… or at least towards the top of the agenda before we put
anything else, and you were going to… I don't know which… who was going
to take that action item between you two was going to verify
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): with the clerk's office if that can be
done, something like that. I had written down in my notes that we were
going to try. Yes, so the advice from the city clerk was that
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Keep the agenda as is, and…
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I was reminded that the Commission decides
how long they have on each agenda item.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so, so every time we're gonna make
that motion to have them speak first, and then go through, because, I
mean, the point of
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): having a commission is to address the
issues that come up. We don't want to shorten the time that we have to
discuss the issues, but we don't also want to pick these people up to 9
o'clock.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): you know, it's not fair to them. So that
was the… that was the context under which I had brought up that, and I
was surprised it wasn't… it wasn't first capture of the meeting minutes,
but I'm glad you have an answer to that.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Secondly, I believe, let's just, he's
nothing written down your notes here.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): You know, in the… in the meeting minutes,
like, when we talk about, Santa Clara County Fire Department.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): One of… and this is… this seems to be
standard through all of the things, so maybe this is procedure, I don't
know, but I would like to understand. It says, commissioners asked
questions to Santa Clara County Fire Department Liaison.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): responded to. Yes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Neat statement.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): But for some people who's reading the
draft minutes, it… it's, like, gives no information. Yes, so the city
uses.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): action minutes instead of summary minutes,
because we have the recording of the meeting. So, would it be.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Would it… wouldn't it be useful to
actually have a link or a path?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): to the video, so people can actually see,
because anybody reading this, it makes no sense. We asked questions,
somebody answered.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): The… the video…
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): is, published under Laserfiche, along with
the agenda and presentations. Sorry? On Laserfiche, a link to the video
is provided. Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): is provided with… Yes. Okay, so can you
take an action, maybe, to put it in the meeting minutes for this meeting,
so that we can actually, I mean, I was looking for the video today. I
couldn't find it, so it would be helpful if, and I'm sure other people
are also looking for it, and they can't find it either. It'd be nice to
have that link. Okay, I'll ask the clerk if… Right, and that's the same
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Feedback I have for 3, 4…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Five, you know, there's questions were
asked, and then you say.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): a couple times in this, 3, 4, 5, you say,
the following people spoke San Rao. Okay. What did he say? And he had a
lot to say. Even if he can capture it, you know, it's not summary
minutes, I get that, but we'd actually taken some action items from what
San had told us to do.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So it would be useful. And then when it
came to the public, the commissioner report, it's interesting, that it
was, you know.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): what I was trying to state there was that
the Cupertino Library Foundation had this, issue, I mean, had this thing
called the event, called the Firewise Cupertino. My whole point of
bringing that up was not to just say that I missed the meeting, which, of
course, I did, although I arranged for the meeting.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): The point of that was to have people
actually look at the Cupertino Library Foundation website, and look at
that Firewise Cupertino, because that was a very useful meeting, tells
them where the fire maps are, tells them what to do under the
circumstances, fire preparedness. That was the point of the meeting. What
was captured here was, yeah, the meeting was great, and that I missed the
meeting.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And so it's missed the point of what I was
trying to bring up. So that, to me.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): going forward should be feedback, that we
capture the correct part of the meeting minutes. Are you requesting.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): That we amend the meeting? The meeting
minutes?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I certainly think they should be amended,
especially given the last one, which, that is why I asked the questions
up front.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do we use AI Companion, and does anybody
read the detail after? Because the last one, it says, Commissioner
Safranam discussed sending emails to Library Commission about
electricity.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): awareness and potentially attending one of
their meetings. What he was talking about was AlertSCC, and that's what
we would really like to have, capture.
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Quinlan Conf Room: this…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it's a simple mistake, however, it
makes absolutely no sense. This is why I asked the questions up front, as
to what was the point. I mean, is it AI? Is it somebody reviewing this
stuff? So, I…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Moves that we make the changes as
requested,
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): To the meeting minutes before they accept,
before we're accepted, if somebody wants to second that.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Second down.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We can take a vote on it.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sorry, I'm stepping on your toes here,
but… No, I don't, I don't think so. Okay.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, we want to take a vote?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yep.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Beggar? I… I recommend that
we change the meeting minutes before we can accept them.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Sappahara?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I second that. I support that.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): But Sharon?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, the motion carries unanimously.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Okay.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And with those amendments, do you accept
the meeting minutes?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I guess we have to see the amendments,
right? We can… we can accept the meeting minutes the next time around.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We're gonna go back to the next meeting.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Cool. Are there any postponements?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yes.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): There… there was an issue with the agenda,
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Human error. We won't be able to do the
election of the chair and vice chair, because the subject does not match.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): the recommended action. So, the two
options are that we can either, hold the election at the May meeting.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or, you can call a special meeting, and we
have 8 potential dates.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): That I can read out.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So it would all be, like, in, like, this
month, or next month, or something like that.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): The dates are…
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Mostly in April and some in May, and the
next meeting will be May 14th.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, yeah, I guess we can do a special…
or yeah, I would recommend do one of those special…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): meeting dates. Okay.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I will include those meeting dates
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): In an email to you, and we will see if we
can get a quorum for one of them. Sounds good. I have a question for
that. So the topic will be only the election?
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): We meet for the special meeting?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Should we add anything else to the agenda?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): special meeting…
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): will be just the election. You can request
that other things be added to future agendas for future meetings, but
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): My understanding is that special meetings
are one-topic meetings.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I guess, like, motion to,
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): to the commission… to the chair and vice
chair election in a special meeting.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Second that?
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Quinlan Conf Room: suspension.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Beggar? Yes.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Sappaharan? Yes. Vice Chair
Raharan? Yes. Motion carries unanimously.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Alright, so oral communications. Do we
have any requests to speak?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have one speaker for Oral
Communications, Roger Fostett.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): One moment while I bring the timer up on
my screen.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, go ahead.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes. My name is Roger Costa, I'm a long-
time resident of Cupertino, and .
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I would request that this commission make
a request of the Cupertino City Council.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): to return, make a request to the County
Board of Supervisors regarding their 3-2 decision prohibiting the
Sheriff's Department from using automatic license plate reading cameras.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because of the flock manufacturer's past
history of working with other police agencies.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think the city has engaged in that
contract with FLOT for those ALPRs, and it's a very valid use. It
enhances the safety of our community, and this particular week.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I pray that we don't have an experience
like New York City did, where terrorists tried to do a bombing.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): But in that instance, The ability to
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Access license plate readers across
multiple jurisdictions brought about a good resolution to that, that
incident.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, I request that you request the Council
to request the, the supervisors reconsider their 3-2 decision. They were
already divided. One person could flip the switch, and it's an important
matter for the well-being and safety of citizens and crew patina on
Saratoga.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. Thank you.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have no remaining speakers, Sister.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right. And yeah, there's no old business
either.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah. So now, moving on to the first item
of new business, presentation from.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): U-S-C-L-R-P.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's the West Santa Clara Landscape
Resilience Project.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I believe, yeah, here.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We can't.
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Stephen Harrington: Alright, good evening, I'm Stephen Harrington with
the Santa Clara County Fire Safe Council.
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Stephen Harrington: Do we have… is the, slideshow being operated by you
guys or us?
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Would it be easier for you to do it
yourself? I can pull it up.
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Grace Mannell: I can share it. Let me just pull it up. I have it. Just a
second, Steven.
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Grace Mannell: Alright, can you all see the title slide?
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): There we go.
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Stephen Harrington: Yep, there it is.
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Grace Mannell: Alright.
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Stephen Harrington: Alright, okay, great.
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Stephen Harrington: Yeah, thanks for the opportunity to present tonight.
My name's Steven Harrington. I am a Senior Project Manager with the Santa
Clara County Fire Safe Council.
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Stephen Harrington: And, I will turn it to my colleague here, she can
introduce herself.
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Grace Mannell: Hi everybody, I'm Grace Minnell. I work for Ascent. We're
an environmental consulting firm that's supporting the Fire Safe Council
and the rest of Stephen's team in preparing the West Santa Clara
Landscape Resilience Project.
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Grace Mannell: So yeah, back to you, Steven.
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Stephen Harrington: Great.
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Stephen Harrington: So quick, agenda for our presentation. I wanted to
present a history of the Los Gatos Creek Watershed Collaboration, which
is where this, this new project has kind of come out of. So I'll go over
that. And then, we'll have an overview of the, CalVTP,
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Stephen Harrington: California Vegetation Manage… or Treatment Program,
and the, West Santa Clara Landscape Resilience Project, also known as
WISCLERP.
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Stephen Harrington: Treatment types and activities, example, before and
after photos of, vegetation treatments, and then,
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Stephen Harrington: Questions and answers, hope to… to answer any
questions you all have.
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Stephen Harrington: So just to give a geographical overview, of the areas
where we've been working, with our, with our forest health grants, we've
received two grants over the last,
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Stephen Harrington: 5 or so years, primarily as, as the, title would
suggest, the Los Gatos Creek watershed, but also, along Skyline
Boulevard, farther north, and the Saratoga Creek watershed, then reaching
all the way to Loma Prieta, Peak, and, Mount Aminum.
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Stephen Harrington: We cover an area probably of around 55,000 acres.
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Stephen Harrington: On the map, you see the bright green areas. Those are
areas where vegetation treatments have been completed.
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Stephen Harrington: And then the orange areas are the areas that are, on
the, on the docket for our second Forest Health Grant.
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Stephen Harrington: Let's see if you want to go to the next slide.
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Stephen Harrington: The,
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Stephen Harrington: This, this collaboration was really in response to
the CZU Lightning Complex and the other catastrophic fires we experienced
in 2020 and previously.
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Stephen Harrington: The, the collaboration is made up of Mid-Peninsula
Regional Open Space District, Santa Clara County Parks, San Jose Water
Company.
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Stephen Harrington: And a couple other smaller landowners, throughout the
watershed. These are, as you know.
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Stephen Harrington: huge landowners, and the, Fire State Council manages,
these grants on behalf of the collaborative, administrates these grants.
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Stephen Harrington: Our first winner was received in 2021, and then
again, we were awarded one in 2023 from CAL FIRE through the California
Climate Initiative funding.
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Stephen Harrington: And it's really to, establish, a more healthy fire-
adapted ecosystem, and to really protect and conserve our natural
resources, particularly water supply is a major concern in these
mountains.
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Stephen Harrington: We have a total of $14.5 million in funding, and over
$2 million in another match funding from our partners.
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Stephen Harrington: And we hope to treat, probably close to 2,000 acres
across the watershed.
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Stephen Harrington: And we plan to be complete with our second grant in
2027. This collaboration has really become a model for scaling up
vegetation treatments.
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Stephen Harrington: the… in California in general, we've been recognized.
The collaboration has also been very innovative. We've helped, Midpenn do
things like, improve, Santa Cruz kangaroo rat habitat.
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Stephen Harrington: We've done projects now, we're looking at this
Westside, West Santa Clara Landscape Resilience Project that will provide
CEQA coverage. We've done work in technology as well.
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Stephen Harrington: Making our… our projects more efficient, and and
really created a… a strong foundation for future work.
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Stephen Harrington: In these areas and others.
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Stephen Harrington: We hope to include, prescribed fire in the future as
well.
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Stephen Harrington: With that, I'll, I'll pass it off to, to Grace to, to
talk more about the, the,
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Stephen Harrington: CalVTPN and Whistler.
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Grace Mannell: Thanks, Steven. It's really great background. So, yeah,
I'm gonna get into some details here.
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Grace Mannell: On CalVTP and Whistle Clear Up itself. So, the CalVTP, the
California Vegetation Treatment Program, is a tool to streamline
California Environmental Quality Act, or CEQA, review of wildfire
resilience projects.
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Grace Mannell: The CalVTP is used by many agencies throughout the state
to increase the pace and scale of wildfire prevention treatments while
maintaining environmental protection for sensitive resources.
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Grace Mannell: In order to qualify for the benefits of the CalVTP program
EIR, each project prepares a project-specific analysis, or we call it a
PSA for short.
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Grace Mannell: To demonstrate that the proposed activities are within the
scope of the CalVTP,
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Grace Mannell: So that's what we show here on the slide. On the left, we
have the CalVTP itself, the cover of the CalVTP, and on the right is the
cover of the West Santa Clara Landscape Resiliency Project PSA.
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Grace Mannell: So…
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Grace Mannell: The PSA includes an analysis of how the requirements and
mitigation measures from the CalBDP would be applied in the project area.
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Grace Mannell: All right, here's a little overview of the Whistle Clerp
project. We call it WhistleClurp for short, but it's the West Santa Clara
project.
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Grace Mannell: So yeah, it's 143,000 plus acres,
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Grace Mannell: It's a pretty large project, as you can see. That's called
the Western Santa Clara Project for good reason. It's important to note
that this entire project area will not all be treated at the same time.
It's not all approved for work at once.
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Grace Mannell: These treatments will, be phased over a long period of
time based on funding, community outreach opportunities, and partner
collaboration opportunities.
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Grace Mannell: Each treatment unit would undergo a series of
requirements, including biological and cultural resource surveys prior to
treatment.
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Grace Mannell: So this area, this region in general, is a high priority
because of the hazardous wildland conditions. Western Santa Clara County
is at the intersection between urban areas where
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Grace Mannell: where fire ignition is most common, and the Santa Cruz
Mountains to the southwest, which contain thousands of acres of forested
wild areas that pose a high fire risk due to the volume of flammable
vegetation.
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Grace Mannell: So Cupertino itself, is on the northeastern edge of the
project, so let's zoom in, take a closer look.
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Grace Mannell: Here's zoomed into, the city of Cupertino overlaid on the
Whistleclerp area, and the shaded areas, with the different colors
indicating landowners are the areas covered in the Whistleclerp PSA.
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Grace Mannell: So, the project will allow landowners in these shaded
areas to opt in to the CEQA coverage provided by the CalVTP if they
desire. It's completely optional. It would not restrict work that
landowners want to do on their properties that have… that either are
related or have nothing to do.
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Grace Mannell: with, wildfire, the existence of the CEQA coverage in a
given area
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Grace Mannell: Using the Whistle Clerk PSA does not supersede any
existing permits or agreements already in place.
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Grace Mannell: Alright, so let's talk about, what treatment activities
and treatment types actually are included.
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Grace Mannell: So the CalVTP includes 3 primary treatment types. Here's
an overview map of the entire whistle-clurp area, and you can see we have
all 3 types represented. Let's zoom into Cupertino and go through them.
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Grace Mannell: So our three treatment types are, first, in orange, we
have the Wildland Urban Interface Fuel Reduction Treatments, or WUI
treatments.
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Grace Mannell: We… these are areas in WUI-designated areas designated by
CAL FIRE. They consist of treatments to reduce fuel loads and slow or
prevent the spread of fire between wildlands and structures, or vice
versa.
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Grace Mannell: Then we have, in yellow, the fuel breaks. These are
strategically placed vegetation treatments around roads, trails, and
ridgelines. These support fire control activities, like firefighting
during an incident, or escape routes, ingress, egress.
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Grace Mannell: And then finally, in blue, we have ecological restoration
treatment areas. These generally are located in the more wildland areas
outside of the WUI.
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Grace Mannell: Treatments in the blue areas would focus on reversing
ecosystem changes caused by a history of fire exclusion, or restoring
post-fire damage.
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Grace Mannell: These are the 5 treatment activities that are covered in
the CalVTP.
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Grace Mannell: that are proposed in the Whistlecurp area. We have
prescribed burning, including pile burning, pictured here. It could also
include cultural burning and, broadcast burning.
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Grace Mannell: We have manual vegetation treatment, which includes things
like using a chainsaw or hand tools to remove vegetation. Mechanical
vegetation treatment includes mowing, chipping.
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Grace Mannell: Types of big, heavy equipment.
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Grace Mannell: Prescribed herbivory is a great tool for some areas.
That's when you see a bunch of goats on a hillside helping with fuel
reduction. And then we also have targeted ground application of
herbicides, which is mainly for control of invasive species that
contribute to the risk of wildfire.
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Grace Mannell: Alright, and I'm gonna pass it back to Steven to go over
some before and after photos.
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Stephen Harrington: Yeah, so these photos are of areas, that we've taken,
with our, areas we just recently treated,
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Stephen Harrington: in Midpenn and, Santa Clara County Parks. And you can
see what we're… what we're going after here is not a, what, you know,
some people might think of as a… as a big fuel break, where you've…
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Stephen Harrington: cut a big scar through, you know, a ridgeline or
something like that. These are more, about taking out dead, dying wood,
diseased trees, taking out small diameter trees, so that
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Stephen Harrington: The result is a forest that has, fewer but larger
trees promoting, oftentimes our native species, and really reduces the
chance of a, of a crown fire, reduces ladder fuels, that type of thing.
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Stephen Harrington: And these are the… typically the machines that we
use, masticators, small tractors with masticator heads that grind
material up into… into, kind of medium-sized, chips.
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Stephen Harrington: Take a look at the next one for a few more photos.
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Stephen Harrington: You can see, especially that, that middle, that
middle shot,
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Stephen Harrington: before and after. You can really see through the
forest, which is…
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Stephen Harrington: Which is great, and… and we're also trying to mimic a
condition that… that would, that would result, if you had a regular
regime of… of fires. This also sets up
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Stephen Harrington: the landscape well for the possibility of prescribed
fire. It also makes it a lot easier to come back later and do maintenance
work. And a lot of our partners, have been already… have already gone
back and started treating, treating some areas that we treated a few
years ago.
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Stephen Harrington: So I'll leave it at that.
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Grace Mannell: That's what we have for you. Any questions?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I always have questions, but if somebody
else wants to go… Okay, so, can we go to that map on Cupertino?
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Grace Mannell: Sure.
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Grace Mannell: This one?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, so can we kind of zoom into the west
side? Because most of Cupertino seems to be, you know, it's…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's not in that…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): red fire zone, so to speak. I mean, most
of that is on the west side, so can we just kind of zoom into that side?
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Grace Mannell: don't have a map that I can zoom into this right now. This
was… unfortunately, this is the extent that I have access to.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Can you zoom into the… Slide, I mean, if
you… No, that's okay.
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Grace Mannell: I'm not sure. Oh, I guess I could… yeah, I think there…
that is the option, like, right in here, maybe?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's good.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, my question here is that the blue
areas are the ecological areas, so somebody is doing something about it.
Now, the brown area that we have, which is a significant part that
touches all of the
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I would say the homes or the areas that
people are closely living. What is the plan for that area to be focused
upon for this cleanup?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or is it not gone down to that much detail
in the project?
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Stephen Harrington: Yeah, at this point,
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Stephen Harrington: we do not have, in this area anyway, there are… I
haven't seen any plans for specific treatments. And really, one way of
looking at this project is… is to think about a, you know, we're
presenting and mapping areas that could be treated.
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Stephen Harrington: Depending, you know, on the… on this vegetation type.
And… and these are now areas that will have, CEQA coverage if…
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Stephen Harrington: say, the city of Cupertino got a grant from CAL FIRE
to do vegetation reduction,
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Stephen Harrington: that would be fantastic, but you would need to have,
CEQA coverage to do that. This… this project, this whistle clerk project,
would, provide that, that layer of CEQA coverage, so that you would not
have to go out and do a separate
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Stephen Harrington: environmental, assessment to, to complete a publicly
funded project. That would be one example.
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Stephen Harrington: Any landowner, any individual landowner who says… who
perhaps has an acre or two there, who's not receiving any kind of special
funding could always do their own work there. But if there was a…
another, say, collaborative project,
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Stephen Harrington: that, that, like, the type we've… we've worked on
that I described before, that needed CEQA, coverage, this… this PSA, this
project-specific analysis, would provide that, layer.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, if I understand it correctly, so if
there was… so, let's just take the area between the Stevens Creek Canyon
and the Regnot Cree.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So if that… yeah, just that area. If… if
it's a private landowner, it's up to them to figure out whether they want
to do anything with it or leave it as is. Now, there are parts of it that
comes right down. If you look, it comes down to whatever that major
street is, which is Stevens Creek.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): go up, actually, not come down. I'm
thinking in terms of coming down the hill, but it's actually going up, in
this map. Yeah, just as you see. That part is right in…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): in the city.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, that's Blackberry Farm and McCullen
Ranch. Right. So…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is that the responsibility of the city of
Costa itself? And have… what are the… do they have any plans?
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Not any that I can point at definitively
right now. I don't wanna…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right, no, I understand, yeah. My question
then becomes, so this is just, at this point, if I understand this
currently.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): You've identified the potential areas that
could be a fire hazard.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Is that right, Steven?
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Stephen Harrington: That is correct, yeah.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it's up to whoever owns that land, or
is responsible for that land.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): To take the action to do something about
it.
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Stephen Harrington: That is also correct, yes. And if that agency or
individual organization wanted to do something about it, and they needed
to have, CEQA coverage to do
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Stephen Harrington: a proposed project, this, this would provide that…
that secret… that CEQA coverage to do that.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't understand what CEQA coverage
means. Would you take a moment to…
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Stephen Harrington: Sure, I'll let Grace handle that. She's the CEQA
expert.
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Grace Mannell: Yeah, the CEQA is the California Environmental Quality
Act, and that is the… Oh, sorry, what was that?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So my question is, what does it mean to
say you have CEQA coverage?
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Grace Mannell: Yeah, so the PSA that we're preparing, the Whistle Court
PSA, it is essentially a,
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Grace Mannell: as a small offshoot of the California Vegetation Treatment
Program, EIR, and so this effectively acts as an environmental impact
report for treatment in this area. So that means if
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Grace Mannell: These landowners want to do this work, they can just work
with the Fire Safe Council to be a responsible agency listed under the
PSA, and then they can
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Grace Mannell: conduct this work following the requirements outlined in
the Whistle Clear PSA, and they would be compliant with CEQA. They
wouldn't need to go do a CEQA exemption, or fill out their own EIR, or
they would have to do the CEQA review, because that's already been
completed.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. Then, I have a couple more questions
following up, if you have the moment. The photos that were showing over
there.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Of the befores and afters.
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Stephen Harrington: Oh yeah, sure.
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Grace Mannell: Let's go back to them.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, what area was this with respect to
Cupertino?
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Stephen Harrington: So this would be, I don't know exactly, but it's, one
of these areas, I'm pretty sure, is, Bear Creek Redwoods.
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Stephen Harrington: park in,
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Stephen Harrington: Mid-Peninsula Regional Open Space District property.
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Stephen Harrington: And… Oh, yeah.
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Stephen Harrington: Oh, to the… to the overview map.
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Stephen Harrington: Oh yeah, so, so if we look here…
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Stephen Harrington: Grace, you've got the cursor, but… but right kind of
over, see where the Chamakita Park…
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Stephen Harrington: Label is on the map.
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Stephen Harrington: Bear Creek Redwoods is… is right above, is that, is
that bright green area there.
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Stephen Harrington: And then, and then some of the other areas that we
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Stephen Harrington: In, in more of these redwood forest… Mixed conifer
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Grace Mannell: Yeah, and just to kind of compare that to the proposed
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Stephen Harrington: Yeah, our treatment areas are mostly, you know,
directly south of Cupertino, just directly south of Los Gatos in the
mountains.
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Stephen Harrington: Surrounding Los Gatos.
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Stephen Harrington: Which is, I think also Mid-Penn and Santa Clara
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Stephen Harrington: But these, these treatments are, you know, more
landscape…
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Stephen Harrington: Level, you know, where we're treating areas that are…
that would really provide a, a fuel break. If there was a fire moving,
you know, through the watershed, it would give, firefighters an
opportunity to… to slow or… or maybe stop the fire.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's all I have. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right. Yeah, no questions from my end. No
questions from my end. Any public.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, speakers, Vice Chair. Would you like
to request to speak?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Nope.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): What I heard was… Oh, sorry, one moment
while I bring up…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, go ahead. What I heard was this
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): basically remove some of the barriers that
would be in place due to permitting on UCLA. The question that I have is,
where does the money come from for the work?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, has this in any way freed up capital
to do the necessary work that has to be done to… to improve our fire
resilience?
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Stephen Harrington: Good, good questions and observation. Yeah, this,
this project is really to, to provide,
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Stephen Harrington: again, this, this CEQA coverage for this large area,
so that when, say, the city of Cupertino or any other public agency or,
large landowner wanted to, do
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Stephen Harrington: treatments, with… that needed a… that needed required
CEQA coverage, they would have that in place
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Stephen Harrington: mostly in place, so they have to fulfill a few other
requirements, but but the bulk of that would be completed. So, if a,
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Stephen Harrington: If an agency was, to get a large grant or, funding,
sources, we've saved them a lot of money, by doing the SQL work. So if
the city of Cupertino wanted to treat that area that kind of extended
down into the city there.
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Stephen Harrington: They would, be saving some money on CEQA, for sure.
They'd still need to get money for the project itself.
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Stephen Harrington: But, but at least…
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Stephen Harrington: One of the… one of the barriers, to doing this type
of work would be, would be,
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Stephen Harrington: removed, and and it makes… it makes funding projects
a lot easier. I know when we go after grants, if we can show we already
have all the kind of permitting, environmental compliance in place.
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Stephen Harrington: The funder knows that that's more money that can be
spent on actually doing the work, instead of, spending, you know, maybe a
year or more on environmental compliance work.
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Stephen Harrington: So it's, it's, it's a way of streamlining, it's a way
of,
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Stephen Harrington: Really just, streamlining, really necessary work
throughout our region.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do we have any other requests?
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): speed.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): No seekers.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Close the public comment? Yeah, you can
close public comment. I guess there's a final comment from each
commissioner.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And so, following up on the question from…
from the resident,
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Can you give us… I mean, each project is
going to be different and going across
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): differently. What are the orders of
magnitude that we are saving with the CEQA coverage? So, if I was going
to spend $10,000 on a project, just as an example, is it saving me
$1,000? Is it saving me $5,000? What is that ratio proximity, or roughly?
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Stephen Harrington: Well, you know, I'm trying to think of a good
example. A couple come to mind. We recently did a categorical exemption,
which is kind of a lower level
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Stephen Harrington: CEQA document for, smaller portions of, of the grant
area that I showed you earlier. Those, and this is for maybe about, I'm
thinking of an area that was about maybe,
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Stephen Harrington: 25 acres, and the money we spent on permitting and
all that was around, I think around $30,000.
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Stephen Harrington: So… and then the project itself, you might spend…
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Stephen Harrington: $4,000 an acre. So, you know, a 25-acre project could
cost $100,000 for,
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Stephen Harrington: for the vegetation work itself. But if you already
have, you know, a $30,000 worth of permitting out of the way, that's a
significant savings.
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Stephen Harrington: That's sort of a, you know, there's a ballpark, but…
but I think it's a… it's a valid example.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And of course, the time will also be
significant, right? Saving almost a year.
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Stephen Harrington: Sure, yeah, some of these categorical exemptions,
some of those don't take as long, you know, a matter of more, I think, 3-
4 months, perhaps, maybe a little bit more. But definitely saving time.
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Stephen Harrington: This particular project that we've worked on,
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Stephen Harrington: we've been doing for about a little over… maybe a
year and a half, Grace, something like that?
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Grace Mannell: Yeah, I've been involved for only about 6 months, so I
know there was a lot of work that happened before that, so…
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Stephen Harrington: Yeah.
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Stephen Harrington: But but yeah, I mean, an environmental impact report
can take well over a year, depending on… on how it goes.
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Stephen Harrington: For larger projects.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Awesome.
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Stephen Harrington: Alright.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Great, thank you so much, for the
presentation.
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Stephen Harrington: You're welcome, and if there's any other follow-up
questions, feel free to contact us. I think Pritta has our
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Stephen Harrington: contact info, and you can certainly find… find me at
the Fire Safe Council.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Awesome. Thank you. Thank you.
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Grace Mannell: Thank you.
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Stephen Harrington: Alright, thank you.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Fresh. Thank you.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right. So we can now move on to monthly
updates.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Richie, you want to go first? Oh.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Mine's short, go ahead. Okay, okay. Then,
thank you.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): For the opportunity to come back.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Showcase the new, public safety course
that we have.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Newsletter style is one that I'm actually
getting news to as well. It's district-wide, so some things will apply,
some things won't, but I think, certain things like what's happening on…
or what's happened on Highway 17.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): applies to everyone here. And then also
maybe having them. As we start getting ready, you'll start seeing a slant
towards the, the WUI, and some of the things that are going to be
happening there.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, a little bit of,
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Info on internal stuff as far as awards
and other things?
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I've,
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): encourage you to take a look at those.
They're very interesting, some of them are fun to hear, and so…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): actually pretty informative. As far as the
city of Cupertino, The overall,
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Call volume is pretty typical. We have
four or five.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): They were.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): categorize vegetation, structure, other…
you can be a fire of any size. And, as far as the, the number of
frequency for the month of February, 4 is actually not bad, based on the,
on the,
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): weather and everything else, it was a
pretty mild, structure, so we didn't lose,
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): a whole lot of property value when it
comes to that. There were no real significant events, aside from the
structure fire that is listed.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Here at the bottom, but no civilians or
firefighters were injured. And the structure fire was in a single-family
home. Unfortunately, I do not have the data for the incident narratives
anymore. I'm going to try to make sure that I have that for you, because
I'd like to be able to tell you.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): If a family was impacted, if they had been
displaced, or…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): came in, so… and then the scale and how
many units came in. It's nice to have that info for you, so I'll look for
that, to see if they've given us another route with the newer ones.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Fire alarms, as you know. Basically, any
call.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): for,
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Any kind of activation of an alarm, or
basically…
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): a system.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): That is intended to alert the residents of
any kind of fire incident that may be occurring.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): The lion's share, once again, is our
medical calls. So, 71% of our calls are, Medical.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): nature.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And that is…
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, for that month.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And service calls, once again, it's kind
of a catch-all, so anybody needing anything would be a service call. That
could be,
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): from my, my, toddler is locked in the
bedroom to, anything like, I have a really strange smell, and it's making
me a little bit concerned. So those are the types of things, or even in
the neighborhood.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Next to the.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): community…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Education. So this is, from January 1st
through the end of February. Schools.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): School's in session and full, blast, so we
have.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Those are the numbers of the total
students, so this may be two, three small assemblies, a couple of
classrooms. That's where we come in and we talk at the appropriate.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): For these kids to, basically receive some
fire safety.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): stop, drop, and roll, 911, things, and
then those, those are pretty typical programs that we have, so we've been
doing that for a very long time. And then, see the breakdown of, kind of,
where they may have occurred. So, the, circle graph on the right, you can
see that we also have CPR. Those are walk-ins still, so…
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): If you have anybody.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): any group or any individual that wants to,
you can schedule that through our website, and come in, and I believe
it's every… at least once a week, we have a time, you know, to just walk
in and let us know that you want to come in.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Station tours.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, we didn't see a lot of station
tours, this.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): last month, usually it's a springtime.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): thing, it seems, and I…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think that we'll probably see some more
of that, and then community events. We had, 150 people checking the
event, then a community event there.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, additional detail, I will start
looking for it, so I'll try to tell you, and some of these events are
going to be able to know about our safety fairs.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's on there. So, I'll give you a better
idea of how those break down. All right, so this right here.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): The bar on top of each,
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): stacked set of bar graphs for this
histogram. They… they show the baseline of the standard. The standard
could be.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, it's… it's sad.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Especially the one that we're.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Unfortunately.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): anything above that line would mean that
we're over that standard. Anything below it, we are below, or we're doing
better. So…
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): The, blue is the 12-month rolling average,
so…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): How have we done historically over the
last 12 months? This could be something that could be impacted by any
kind of staffing issues or station impact on a station because it's been
closed for maintenance or something. We have units that are out of the
area, and, there's, you know, or large events that are happening.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So these are the types of things to get, 7
in on the 12-month rolling.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): This is actually one, and we had.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): request for something that just told us a
little bit more granular, a little bit more focused on, hey, how did we
do last month? Or instead of these big averages, that the details can be
kind of lost. So, this is a response to a request to say, how are we
doing? So, how are we doing in Cupertino for, last month?
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): For call processing, that's the time that
a person So, or the dispatch.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Picks up the phones.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's how…
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): No one.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): What is your emergency?
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): The point where they, finish with the call
processing.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): They also run, and they overlap with the
turnout time. The turnout time is the crew getting the ring down, so
there's a certain amount of information they know, event nature, medical.
Varity, very serious, life-threatening, so this would be the type of
event.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): And so you need…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): need to know a lot more to get rolling on
a call like that, so there is an overlap. Looks like we've been doing a
little bit better on the call processing side than the 12-month.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, they did have a CAD system installed,
so there's probably a bit of… now we're getting into our stride with the
call takers, and I know that we picked up some additional folks that went
through that training. There's a really significant washout rate, and
they handle everything at call centers, or at County Call.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sheriffs, ambulances, us, and there's a
few others, rangers and a few others that they actually deal with, so
they have a huge scope of responsibilities when it comes to the, call
processing center.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): the,
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): total reflex time, so that's basically up
to the point where we get to that call. And… and there is.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Basically, they.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): density, where we start getting to some of
the areas that we were looking at on the outskirts, where there's less
than 1,000 per acre, people, and so that's the difference. Those are the
ones that are further out there.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thanks, Bootsy.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Expect to see a little bit.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Longer time. And then the, the averages.
So, we're actually doing…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): fairly well against the standards that,
we're stacked up with. But that's, once again, because Cupertino has,
three stations, and there, there are more than one unit at most of those
stations, so we have, like, three at the Cupertino. That doesn't dole
stuff, so it's… if there's a hazmat event.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or, inching company, or regular EMS or
fire. Then we have the tiller, or the tractor-drawn aerial, which is the
big truck, with two drivers.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, and there was actually, on the bottom
of that, there's a… it's broken up,
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): For fire and, and medical.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): The medical side, there's a little bit
less cure to put on. You can get ready to go, and .
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Current safety standards, how to change
things.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): from way back when, where you just get in
the rig and get dressed without a seatbelt, but now everybody gets
dressed fully. Before they get in, they lock in, and then safer response
time, less injuries and things like that that resulted from that.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): practice?
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then our response, statistics.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, for us, our structure fires, once
again, this is a bit repetitive, when it comes down to the…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Numbers that we looked at, so, total of,
incidents for,
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): February?
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll only have about 10.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): See ya. 1600.
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Quinlan Conf Room: I saw it, I know I lost it.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Anyway, 1600? Thank you.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, the number of incidents year-to-date.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): As far as, compared to 2021.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): February? Our number's about the same. So
there, you can see.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): there's actually a little dip, coming out
of, January. I would attribute that mainly to weather, and other things.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): That bar…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Typical. And, once again, we are at…
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): to the same point where we were pretty
much before COVID and thinking from there.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): The last piece, like I said.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Many wildfire preparedness.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, there are going to be a number of
events in person this year. Really what it comes down to is reviewing and
understanding.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Exactly. So, if every year you understand.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): a little bit more, you know, when it comes
down to is that if everybody… that's the preparation in advance.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): It goes hand.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Hand-in-hand with.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): All of the stuff you can do at your house,
and all of the stuff that you can do as a family, to be ready to take
off, including.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): the decision.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): making.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, at what point?
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Will your.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): You feel the most comfortable.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Which means people, you're not really the
type that does well with stress.
471
00:53:56.865 --> 00:54:06.884
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): The ready component means that you're set
and go should be happening a little bit sooner than your neighbor who was
a veteran of a pretty stressful situation.
472
00:54:07.205 --> 00:54:19.374
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I would say this is an individual thing,
as you start dealing with it, and you start talking to people about it,
this is… this is a personal decision, so that you know, and it has a lot
to do with where you live.
473
00:54:19.375 --> 00:54:20.344
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): with that.
474
00:54:20.350 --> 00:54:24.629
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): The, wildfire readiness presentations,
they may sound the same.
475
00:54:24.635 --> 00:54:26.055
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): But they all also go into.
476
00:54:26.055 --> 00:54:40.765
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): a little bit different nuance. We learn a
little bit more as an agency and as a fire service, and how things are
evolving. We learn from every, every year's significant events. You know,
there are more and more lessons learned. I see this shift now.
477
00:54:40.855 --> 00:54:50.134
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): is really turning to home hardening and
some of the efforts, they're starting to become a little bit more clear.
We know that Zone Zero was something that was supposed to be.
478
00:54:50.135 --> 00:54:51.015
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): defined?
479
00:54:51.015 --> 00:55:04.075
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): It is. You can go to Board of Forestry,
get the current draft, and they're supposed to be picking up again in
April. So, in Sacramento, they will be picking that up again. They fell
behind and did not provide
480
00:55:04.075 --> 00:55:16.984
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): the guidelines for Zone Zero, but it will
be happening, so if you wanted to get a peek at it, it would be something
that you could do in order to prep. This year, County Fire is doing the
WUI inspections.
481
00:55:16.985 --> 00:55:34.705
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): There are a lot more residents in
Cupertino that will be getting one, because it is a… there are more
houses and parcels that are part of the very high fire severity zone.
This means that in the local response areas, we do have the ability to
enforce
482
00:55:34.705 --> 00:55:53.855
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): But it's going to be education and
assistance is going to be the primary thing. Unless somebody is not
willing to help themselves, or if they need something else that would
help motivate them, we're really looking to help people out, and we're
going to have a crews run through, they're doing, public right-of-way
inspections.
483
00:55:53.855 --> 00:56:01.315
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So they'll be driving through an area, and
if they see something that triggers their interest, they will get out, do
a little bit more, close…
484
00:56:01.345 --> 00:56:16.895
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): inspection of the society or the property.
They will have a door hanger, and then we have a tool that works in the
field so that they can get referred over to us, and we will send a deputy
fire marshal to do additional follow-up.
485
00:56:16.895 --> 00:56:23.514
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then they'll be notified of anything
that they need to work on, and we will be around to help them get that
stuff done.
486
00:56:23.515 --> 00:56:30.505
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): That works in conjunction with the
wildfire, workshop, so, a little bit of Self.
487
00:56:30.665 --> 00:56:39.315
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): promotion there from the Fire Prevention
Division. It is something that I think that we really need to stress, and
I will leave… I'll end this by saying
488
00:56:39.525 --> 00:56:56.044
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): We gotta get our numbers up for Genesis
Protect and AlertSC. It is one of the things that's coming up where
people don't feel safe, especially when it comes to evacuations. A lot of
effort by staff to put in the work to do the evacuation studies.
489
00:56:56.085 --> 00:57:00.025
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): They are looking at the areas that have,
the…
490
00:57:00.135 --> 00:57:14.255
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): the limited access, these neighborhoods
are identified, they're part of the safety plan and the general plan, so
there's been a ton of work to support some real progress, but it doesn't
work unless people get their SEC, but Genesis Protect
491
00:57:14.255 --> 00:57:21.834
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): This has been in place for a while, it's
paid for, and it's a tool that you can use, and it'll tell you exactly,
492
00:57:21.915 --> 00:57:39.854
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): from the incident commander who first gets
eyes on the incident, so your time frame will be very, very short, that
is the person who's telling you… telling you to go, and where to go,
which way to go. So that's… that's the thing about the Genesis Protect
and the Alert SEC, that we really got to get those numbers.
493
00:57:40.375 --> 00:57:43.955
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I will conclude with that. If you have any
questions, we may have answered.
494
00:57:47.010 --> 00:57:56.020
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I do have a couple of questions, but
great report. Thank you very much for all the great work you guys do. So,
I saw in the community,
495
00:57:56.090 --> 00:58:11.510
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): classes and the CF classes, I see the
elementary schools have, like, 80 students participate or something,
whereas middle and high schools, zero. Is there any reason why? Can you
guys, also engage the middle schoolers and high schoolers? We could.
496
00:58:11.515 --> 00:58:13.035
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): requested programs, so…
497
00:58:13.035 --> 00:58:13.755
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Only question.
498
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:17.490
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): If the, if you have, children at any
school, or you know.
499
00:58:17.495 --> 00:58:20.174
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Anybody that has children, any school
talent.
500
00:58:20.585 --> 00:58:25.574
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Quest, a program in Google, send people
out. We have a, we have,
501
00:58:25.855 --> 00:58:29.765
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Again, age-specific, grade-specific
programs that,
502
00:58:29.770 --> 00:58:41.250
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): They'll come out. They're pretty
theatrical and entertaining to keep the kids' attention. They're very
interactive. Nice. And when the, Canada Education Division used to be
under me.
503
00:58:41.290 --> 00:58:55.679
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I went out and checked them out. I really
took a look at how they were doing things, and it was really neat to see
them interact with the kids. They really like what they're doing. They do
a good job, and the kids really have a great time with it, and they learn
a lot, and there's always…
504
00:58:55.920 --> 00:59:08.139
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Kids love that. So, request, make that. I
mean, that's another component of awareness, is to get kids out there.
Let the schools know to let us know that they would like us to come out.
505
00:59:09.170 --> 00:59:12.199
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And that is available on our website, so…
Nice.
506
00:59:12.205 --> 00:59:18.855
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): on the newsletter distribution. So, how
is it getting distributed to Cupertino residents, or is it, like,
507
00:59:19.265 --> 00:59:24.114
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): There is no push notification or
anything, right? It is just included in the City Manager newsletter.
508
00:59:24.810 --> 00:59:25.910
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): It is included?
509
00:59:28.260 --> 00:59:31.750
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't remember seeing… yeah, get 50
minutes' letters.
510
00:59:31.755 --> 00:59:38.195
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): did not look at the report, but I had
taken an… I had taken a note last time that we were going to have
511
00:59:38.525 --> 00:59:43.474
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Staff is going to take an action to
publicize the report on the city's social media.
512
00:59:43.805 --> 00:59:44.585
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes.
513
00:59:45.435 --> 00:59:46.435
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): It is.
514
00:59:47.475 --> 00:59:48.555
Quinlan Conf Room: Okay.
515
00:59:50.265 --> 01:00:02.475
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): one, that was not part of the meeting
then, so I just didn't know whether it was there or not. And then
further, to report on how well received the report was. I mean, do you
have any statistics on how
516
01:00:02.615 --> 01:00:19.194
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): much that has been seen, or not seen, or
anything? I don't. No, I'm from the city. I'm sure you guys have it, and
it'd be great to know if you have those as well, as a county, but… No, I
don't have those. Okay.
517
01:00:19.805 --> 01:00:35.414
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): would we take an action to maybe figure
out whether, you know, how well is the, you know, city manager's report
being seen, and therefore all of the information? Okay. I mean, it's easy
statistics that, you know, we can figure out. Okay.
518
01:00:38.025 --> 01:00:40.484
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sorry, you were gonna say? Dog.
519
01:00:40.645 --> 01:00:45.925
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm… I'm seeing these… they're getting
pushed.
520
01:00:46.890 --> 01:00:49.459
Quinlan Conf Room: Some of the aspects of engineering as well.
521
01:00:49.730 --> 01:00:51.820
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I know there was a lot of,
522
01:00:52.020 --> 01:00:55.960
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): There were a lot of requests to say, hey,
can we make this a little bit more dynamic?
523
01:00:58.450 --> 01:01:03.930
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I found this interesting. So, I'm glad to
see that they are making changes, and I think that
524
01:01:04.220 --> 01:01:13.870
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think getting it to the city early
enough in the day, did that get resolved? Was it a little bit better this
time? We got it today. I got it. I got it now.
525
01:01:14.530 --> 01:01:18.690
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, I will… I will take that feedback
back, because…
526
01:01:18.690 --> 01:01:20.530
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): this… this…
527
01:01:20.530 --> 01:01:30.889
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): commission meets as soon as… this is the
first one that goes out of all of them, so the time frame that it's set
gives everybody else a little bit of extra time, but we never seem to
have a whole lot.
528
01:01:31.090 --> 01:01:35.800
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I think that would attribute to some
of the challenges in the
529
01:01:36.540 --> 01:01:44.769
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): it's not looking like it's showing up,
because I guess, quite frankly, it's not showing up until the last
minute, not quite alpha, so I will take that back.
530
01:01:45.170 --> 01:01:48.150
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Actually, take that as an action.
531
01:01:49.180 --> 01:01:50.959
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): just look into it, and I'll…
532
01:01:51.130 --> 01:01:54.069
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Did you see a back name?
533
01:01:54.075 --> 01:01:58.084
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): question. On the Genesis Protect,
information is also part of the…
534
01:01:58.345 --> 01:02:02.045
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): lie about this information, this
revolving?
535
01:02:02.935 --> 01:02:04.905
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I added that. Oh, you added that, okay.
536
01:02:04.910 --> 01:02:06.490
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it's because.
537
01:02:06.490 --> 01:02:06.880
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): There are a lot of things.
538
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:08.010
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): things happening in Cupertino.
539
01:02:08.010 --> 01:02:16.010
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): with regard to the WUI. And I know that we
have looked at the numbers in the past that, even when,
540
01:02:17.380 --> 01:02:21.050
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): When, gosh, several years ago, looked at
the numbers.
541
01:02:21.055 --> 01:02:23.705
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): There's a lot of opportunity.
542
01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:29.550
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): and things that, I did not see over the
last year.
543
01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:38.609
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): back when Tom was here, I didn't see that
move a whole lot. And people are really… there's a lot of public
544
01:02:40.930 --> 01:02:50.219
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): There's a lot of public curiosity, there's
a lot of public concern, there's a lot of fear, there's a lot of other
things that are popping up throughout the city right now where people are
very concerned.
545
01:02:50.340 --> 01:02:53.289
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And there's a lot of spillover.
546
01:02:53.410 --> 01:02:57.529
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And one of the things is, it's like, okay,
how do you know,
547
01:02:58.450 --> 01:03:03.609
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): how and when to evacuate. And that tool
has been in place for… 4 years?
548
01:03:05.220 --> 01:03:07.200
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): 3, 4? 3, 4 years.
549
01:03:07.340 --> 01:03:11.979
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Genesis product. Yeah, it was originally
Zone Haven.
550
01:03:13.150 --> 01:03:16.020
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): pushed, and then it went through Genesis
for time. It, it…
551
01:03:17.030 --> 01:03:19.449
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): It is a… it is a very,
552
01:03:19.450 --> 01:03:24.459
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): It seems to be very stable and pliable,
based on my experience. I get the notifications as a…
553
01:03:24.460 --> 01:03:26.580
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): As a duty chief, when…
554
01:03:26.585 --> 01:03:27.874
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): The zone changes.
555
01:03:27.875 --> 01:03:29.285
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): classification throughout.
556
01:03:29.595 --> 01:03:30.275
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): So…
557
01:03:30.525 --> 01:03:31.925
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): If it's upgraded or downgraded.
558
01:03:31.930 --> 01:03:33.230
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): greater changes.
559
01:03:33.235 --> 01:03:34.315
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Perfect.
560
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:34.840
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I…
561
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:50.499
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I see it. And I think that for us, we have
been able to use it for events, and it really works. So, to know what to
do with regard to the incident, which way you may want to go or like to
go.
562
01:03:50.630 --> 01:04:00.670
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, that's what you get from Genesis
Protect. Near real time or real time? Yeah, it's pretty darn close to
real time. And then, when it comes to where do you go.
563
01:04:00.930 --> 01:04:13.730
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): that's where alert and CC comes in. It'll
tell you your evacuation areas, it'll tell you cooling centers, it'll
tell you, you know, if there's any kind of relief or aid, support
services, things like that. It'll tell you… and then they will also tell
you when.
564
01:04:13.735 --> 01:04:15.235
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): to go back. Right.
565
01:04:15.235 --> 01:04:17.495
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So together, they work, as a.
566
01:04:17.495 --> 01:04:19.035
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): the team, and they pretty.
567
01:04:19.035 --> 01:04:21.984
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Pretty much fill most of the gaps that
anybody would need.
568
01:04:22.145 --> 01:04:25.464
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): In order to keep you informed as a person.
569
01:04:25.615 --> 01:04:31.565
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Had to leave their home or neighborhood,
or anybody that, you…
570
01:04:31.740 --> 01:04:32.559
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): You don't.
571
01:04:32.560 --> 01:04:34.850
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): That is affected.
572
01:04:35.090 --> 01:04:37.469
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): That stuff's coming in as well.
573
01:04:37.995 --> 01:04:46.555
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): You said earlier that the number of
people signed up is very low. So you have some stats? Like, how many
people signed up for… I have some that are a little stale.
574
01:04:46.560 --> 01:04:50.119
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): But they were in the 701 teams, I think.
575
01:04:51.630 --> 01:04:53.440
Quinlan Conf Room: It's, like, less than 20%.
576
01:04:53.650 --> 01:04:55.720
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Of course, terrorism.
577
01:04:56.050 --> 01:04:58.210
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or, for everything on here.
578
01:04:58.975 --> 01:05:05.864
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, do you have any flyers, or some
material promoting Genesis Protect sign-up also?
579
01:05:06.390 --> 01:05:17.390
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Actually, they're pretty much on every
single flyer sent out. And they're also in the WUI notices that are going
out this year, or every year. There's a QR code with all the.
580
01:05:17.395 --> 01:05:18.265
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Excellent.
581
01:05:19.950 --> 01:05:35.920
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, if I may ask, Marta, so, I saw the… I
was both focused on alert SEC last few months in the library, which there
is only one single, page kind of a flyer there, and that's also vertical.
It's like a horizontal flyer sitting vertically.
582
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:52.850
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I don't know how many people are
actually looking into it, but I was wondering, is there any way we can,
especially when the technical library department seems interested to
cooperate, can we expand the flyer, can we put them together?
583
01:05:52.930 --> 01:05:58.949
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Side by side, in the same, display for
the library? Sure, that one.
584
01:05:59.050 --> 01:06:01.570
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so, sus. So what is the specific.
585
01:06:01.575 --> 01:06:03.115
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): batching? Also.
586
01:06:03.115 --> 01:06:08.005
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): earlier, the alert SEC, the QR code and
the banner, right? It is…
587
01:06:08.215 --> 01:06:12.115
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): already there in the library. That's what
the research Martha and I did.
588
01:06:12.485 --> 01:06:17.705
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So… and that is like a flyer. It's a
horizontal flyer sitting vertically in one corner.
589
01:06:17.835 --> 01:06:26.224
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): it's, it's with, along with any of the
2030 items, so it's not, highlighting that. So, if, if, if our,
590
01:06:26.925 --> 01:06:43.065
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): file department is, recommending, right?
I think we need to put both, not only alert SCC, the QR code, but also
Genesis product QR code, or the sign-up, link, more visible, especially
when library is interested to partner with,
591
01:06:43.630 --> 01:06:45.080
Quinlan Conf Room: the Public Safety Commission.
592
01:06:46.100 --> 01:06:47.050
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's not a point.
593
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:48.270
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Floyd.
594
01:06:48.940 --> 01:06:56.970
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): My… my numbers for… for, May 14th, 2025,
15%. 1,3070.
595
01:06:56.975 --> 01:06:57.665
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): team.
596
01:06:57.670 --> 01:06:58.449
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then…
597
01:06:58.455 --> 01:06:59.535
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): does 57…
598
01:06:59.540 --> 01:06:59.910
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): those.
599
01:06:59.910 --> 01:07:01.050
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): 8…
600
01:07:01.050 --> 01:07:04.040
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): 56 sound right for the census-ish?
601
01:07:04.420 --> 01:07:05.180
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah.
602
01:07:05.430 --> 01:07:15.829
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, yeah, these are my demos. And the
thing is, is that we're still… we're at 15%. We can't be that far off.
Thing is, the… the…
603
01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:25.079
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): The recommendation, essentially, would be
that at every fair, every festival, every whatever gathering, to have
somebody there that actually helps people install it.
604
01:07:25.500 --> 01:07:40.189
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): be probably the recommendation that I…
like, if I was, they said go out and make sure that people get signed up,
that's one of the types of ways that I would do it, because if you walk
away with a QR code… people don't typically do this, and
605
01:07:40.620 --> 01:07:47.470
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): This is usually one of the biggest,
components of, of… Fear that.
606
01:07:47.475 --> 01:07:47.975
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): people haven't.
607
01:07:47.975 --> 01:08:03.304
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): They don't know what to expect, they don't
know where they're going to hear it, they don't know yet. So, that
unknown is, I think, creating a lot of… if they had an idea of how it
worked, you can see a video. We even have our own on how Genesis Protect
608
01:08:03.335 --> 01:08:14.885
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it shows them that it's one of our VCs
that is going out there. We have an extraordinary amount of experience
when it comes to wildfire. We send people throughout the state, and we
are the region.
609
01:08:15.075 --> 01:08:23.554
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): coordinator for the area and the area
coordinator, so we carry those roles as county fire. So, Cupertino has a
pretty.
610
01:08:23.595 --> 01:08:24.874
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Straight connection, too.
611
01:08:25.234 --> 01:08:27.524
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): The resources that are…
612
01:08:27.774 --> 01:08:36.224
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Coming in and out, and I'm one of the
people that sits in one of those roles, and that's why, the evacuations,
613
01:08:36.950 --> 01:08:42.019
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): And people knowing that they need to leave
as soon as possible.
614
01:08:42.284 --> 01:08:45.074
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is one of those things that is.
615
01:08:46.254 --> 01:08:48.554
Quinlan Conf Room: There is an opportunity to do better.
616
01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:49.189
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Absolutely.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): This is the part, because people, this is
the part that people say, what are you going to do about it? It's like,
well, I'm going to give you this again. It's basically it, so…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, so I think, I may.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): also request, Martha, the city staff,
right, to share those materials so that we can, we can put it in the
public forums, like Nextdoor, but also pass it to other organizations,
like schools and others, if they can also display the same.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I have a request, I don't know if this is
part of… that would be part of the presentation for next time.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Me too!
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I would like to see an example of an
evacuation route.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): capacity.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Situation?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because I think there are, you know, we
have a very large area on the west side that is in the red fire zone, and
we're giving, for whatever reason, permits to build all kinds of things
on that side.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Holy cow.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): really just tuning…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): streets where people have to get out of.
One is McClellan, the other one is Rainbow. And the connecting road
between them is Buck.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And we have a lot of development happening
there, and people trying to escape out of it. The evacuation capacity is
going to be really efficient.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We need to understand…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): what that capacity is, how does it work?
Can you make a presentation or send us some information on that? What
does the city have on that?
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I believe that's part of the health and
safety element draft.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And that was published for public comment
earlier this week, or last.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think that today is the last day, or
something, to provide a comment. Tomorrow is the last day.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah. So, so…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, yes, that is actually…
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I was… I spent.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Most of the day today?
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): In those areas, and driving those roads,
and managing roads.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, that's actually very, very high on our
list, specifically for the reason that you called out, and that is the
developments occurring. So, I also happen to have this already up for,
the…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): evacuation.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I did work on the safety plan and the,
general plan elements I, just stacked.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So… to,
645
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Would it be to provide,
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): A different, a report on…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Evacuation routes and what's found in
these reports, or would it be something different that you're going to be
looking at?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't know exactly what is in those
reports, and I was going to take a look at it and provide my own
information, my own feedback on that. However, it would be useful,
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): To pick the red… red zones, and talk to us
about evacuation capacity.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Of those rounds.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. I can, what I will do is I'll take
a.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Look at the report.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): see if I can marry it with the, you know.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): changes in the… in the map, because I do
have, bad information as well, what's changed. And I can see if I can…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Put together a short presentation,
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): With the intent to explain what the report
is and how things kind of.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): chamber.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Interesting.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Vice Chair, may we go to public comment?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, sure.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Students?
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have no speakers.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, we were just ridiculous thought.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, I apologize.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, go ahead. No, I was just saying, I
can try to explain it.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I can either do that, or I can bring
something as a… as a.
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Quinlan Conf Room: There's a…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): an outline of the types of things that I
might be able to provide.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Would it not be in.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): more interesting to get the…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): to actually see a presentation. Perfect.
And then if you want to give us your regular report as an outline, I
mean, just give us a report so we can, you know.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's pretty standard, the report that we
get every time, so it's pretty good, but it's very informative, however,
something different. Okay.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I will put something together that,
focuses on evacuation throughout the meeting designated by fire severity
zone.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): This is.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): from the city's GIS team, the, Service
Finder app. If you… wow, that's just everything highlighted. Okay,
clicking on Hazard Awareness Evacuation Zone.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Click on any zone, and this will pull up.
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Quinlan Conf Room: a link to…
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Load. There we go.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): these are potential evacuation routes.
Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, that's true, but what we're talking
about… I mean, those are obvious routes. I live in that area, so I know
exactly what you're talking about. However, what I'm asking for is the
capacity, given what we have, and that's slightly different than just
providing the routes. I just wanted to make sure that… Sure.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): But it's a very useful link that you
provided. If you can go back and just tell us what that link is, or put
it in the meeting minutes, that will be fine. Okay.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Alright, cool, thanks so much. Yeah, at
least we can move on to the next word from Captain.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Alright.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Good evening, everyone.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So this report's gonna be a little bit
odd, because, what happened on.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): January 1st, we switched to a new record
management system, which is Axon, and we integrated a lot of other
information
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): into this other system called Peregrine.
So currently, the way that we write reports right now, there is Axon,
which is our crime report.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): database, and then you have Crossroads,
which is our accident and citation database.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Neither one of those two is very good for
obtaining information, so we have a program called Peregrine, which kind
of puts everything together, puts it in stats forms.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): where I'm going with this is.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Got this report today, and I noticed that
my Priority 1 calls are unusually high.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): 14, apparently, in January, and 5 in
February.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I have to go back and do a little more
research that I got this information today, because these numbers seem a
little high for the priority calls, and I think there might be some
correction to some of this information. So, with that being said, it's
just…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): some growing pains right now with this
new RMS system. The new RMS system, which record management system,
dropped the alpha at the end of all the police reports, so any police
report has the 25, which… or 26 for the year, the Julian date, the Julian
calendar, and then the event number.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Problem is now.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): it's dropped the alpha, so it used to say
C for Cupertino, S for Saratoga, L for Los Altos Hills, so it makes it
really convoluted and complicated to search for individual reports for
Cupertino, because there is no alpha designator, so you have to kind of
figure out some other way.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): So anyways, what I'm trying to get with
this, I think these numbers right here that we just got, that I
unfortunately got today, I haven't been able to look at them, because
there's… there might be some inaccuracies, so…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): But this is what the system kind of…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): gave us with Peregrine, so… And so we'll
start with this, but we're gonna have to… I'm gonna do some tweaking or
looking into some of this information, so…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Moving on to the next, side of,
702
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): the property crimes that we've had in
town, we ended, very high with residential burglaries, in, in Cupertino,
at the end of 2025, with,
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): 102. From the previous one, we had 78.
Residential burgers are on the rise again. During the State of the City,
I did bring up that, we may have to take some other innovative approaches
to try to bring those numbers down, whether it's
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): you know, rekindling some… some
neighborhood watch meetings, or rekindling some… some, some other groups
so we can try to get some more, information, because this is… these are
burglaries that are occurring, again, with…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): simple things like people not turning
their alarms on, or, you know, so things that people might be forgetting.
So we're gonna have to step up our game here for the next coming year of
putting some public awareness on residential burglaries out there, so…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I gotta… I wanna talk a little bit about
the ALPR things, because,
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): this was on… this is… we discussed this
during the State of the City Address. Additionally, it was also,
708
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): you know, something that we provided to a
lot of residents here in Cupertino, but essentially, what happened was
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Mountain View, the City of Mountain View
had flock, ALPRs, and
710
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): And their system was accidentally sharing
with federal agencies, which is against the law in the state of
California.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): It wasn't Mountain View's issue, Mountain
View didn't do this, it was more of a flock issue.
712
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): But as a result, it's causing a lot of
issues of trying to contract with Flock as a vendor, because
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): the Senate bill, that was put out is that
we should be sharing with any federal agencies, period, including ICE,
right? So in January, Los Altos Hills decided to end their relationship
with Flock.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because of the possibility that federal
government or maybe even ICE may be obtaining some information without us
knowing or without, you know.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Flock even knowing. So, they scrapped
their… they scrapped their, their agreement with Flock, basically, back
in January. Mountain View did the same thing. They actually just turned
off all the cameras, until they can fix something with their Flock
cameras.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): As a result, we had gone to the Board of
Supervisors with an updated surveillance use policy. Our surveillance use
policy is what allows us to operate and manage data for these contract
cities from Cupertino to Saratoga.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): for their data that they collect with
their license plate readers. None of the license plate readers are owned
by the sheriff's Office, they're all owned either by the city, or they're
private, by the cities of Cupertino and Saratoga. So, the surveillance
use policy gives us the authority to manage the city's data.
718
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): What we had done is we had gone back to
the Board of Supervisors with a policy that dropped the term flock from
the policy, so it just says license plate reader technology.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, again, reassured what… what steps
should we take in order for our data not to be breached.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Bi-weekly audits, monthly, audits where
we scrub the data, plus a yearly report back to the Board of Supervisors
with any deficiencies or any problems that we encounter during that year.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): We had a lot of public comment, from
people in the audience, directed at San Jose and other agencies. I think
it was very unclear of what the direction was, but essentially what the
Board of Supervisors approved our surveillance use policy.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): But then also added the caveat that we
could no longer contract, manage, or even access Flock.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, essentially.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Terminating the program right there, basically, for
Flock.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): The City of Cupertino's flock contract
was due to expire that week.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): So…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): it wasn't very much of a… you know, for
Cupertino, it's not as big as a loss as it was for Saratoga, who is… who
has a contract to flock up to December 2028, a financial one that they
paid for. So, there's some things that are going on, with that, and
essentially where I'm going with this is that,
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): every, every city in this county has
taken a step back and re-evaluating their relationship with Flock. The
City of San Jose.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): came out the other day and said that
they're actually going to go to a policy that's more in line with what we
used to do. That means bi-weekly audits, monthly scrubbing of data,
because right now their policy was a year-long retention. We have a 30-
day retention on ALPR stuff.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Additionally, we're talking to other
vendors,
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): that haven't come across in a little bit
of hot water in the news lately, like Flock has, such as Axon, to see if
they can fit the need in the meantime, or assist us in
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): in some sort of, patch, now that we've
lost access to flock cameras. So we're… we're in the… trying to come up
with another solution right now, when it comes to that. So, I think…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): They're a valuable tool, it's helped us a
lot in solving crimes, preventing crimes, and…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): This was not at fault of any of our staff
members doing anything inappropriate with any data. We… like I said, we
have a strict policy, probably the model policy for the state of
California.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it's just the stance that the Board
of Supervisors took, having the fact that they control our actions.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): saying that they do not want us
associated with flock, because of the possibility that ICE may be able to
obtain
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): The data, and use it for immigration or
reproductive,
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): policies that we have. So, you know,
afraid of…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): for example, if Texas outlawed abortions,
if a person from Texas came to California to have an abortion.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): that Texas could access that information.
So, there's a lot of stuff that Flock… and I'm going to be honest, the
Flock did not do themselves any favor by not coming out and saying
anything, that it was their mistake, that they owned up to it, or
anything at all. They kind of stood back, and unfortunately.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): made the decision for a lot of other
municipalities to just say, we're dropping it, and we're not the only
ones. There's… there's tons of municipalities all across the United
States that are just dropping. Their contract is blocked right now, so…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): With that being said, I said we're
working on another possibility for ALPR technology, because it is
valuable. We're looking at Axon. Couple issues with Axon, they don't
contract with local municipalities, they only contract with police
departments, so…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): it's gonna be… it's gonna be a process,
but, but we're… we're looking for other solutions. So, all my things to
do, for the next time, I gotta take a look at these response times,
because I don't think they're correct, and I don't think we had 14
Priority 1 calls.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): And additionally, our system that we
collect our accidents and citations is not feeding into the system called
Peregrine, so I don't have any of that information.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right now.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Growing pains. January 1st is a big
switch for us. We went to a robust RMS system, from what we used to have,
and so… and we went to a more nationally recognized standard of NIBRS.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Versus what we were doing before with
just, reading reports. It's going to be a step up for us, but there's
gonna be some growing pains, and I appreciate everyone's patience while
we sort this out with all of our vendors. So, with that, I will conclude,
and if I have any questions about anything, I can be happy to answer.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, yeah, thank you so much for the
report. So just to, like, clarify, so it's like, even though, so
basically what has changed is the policy language is, like, now, like,
vendor agnostic. Yes. Right? And then that's, like.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So that's just there in place, and then
the thing that's pending is, like, basically, like, the search for, like,
an alternative vendor. Is that the correct understanding? Yes. Yeah.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, so the very good suggestion on the
monthly scrubbing, right? So, was that implemented, currently? Yes. Yeah.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): We started, Supervisor Justice Midian was
very strict about this policy, made it really, really strict. Again.
752
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): A lot of agencies do monthly audits, or
bi-monthly audits, and they do yearly retention on data. We were bi-
weekly audits.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): monthly audits where we scrub the data,
that means we delete all the information, all the license plate numbers
and information, basically, and then a year report to the Board of
Supervisors of everything within that whole month, and confirming that we
had done everything we're supposed to do, so…
754
01:26:05.580 --> 01:26:06.450
Quinlan Conf Room: Excellent.
755
01:26:07.290 --> 01:26:18.269
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, so you were talking about this
Cupertino City contract, being, was up for renewal within that week, and
so, so right now, the Kubernocity contract also terminated? I don't know.
756
01:26:18.275 --> 01:26:28.244
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): The city could… from what I understood,
talking to, the city manager, is that the… that the Flock ALPR, contract
was set to expire that week.
757
01:26:28.365 --> 01:26:37.545
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Obviously, if we would have had our
policy approved, and it gave the two the opportunity to also continue
their contract with Clock.
758
01:26:37.805 --> 01:26:44.145
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't know what the situation is with…
it's a… it's a contract between the City of Cupertino and Flock.
759
01:26:44.365 --> 01:26:52.984
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): It has nothing to do with us at all. The
only thing that we got… got hit with the sheriff's office is, shall not
operate.
760
01:26:53.680 --> 01:27:01.089
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes. That is the instruction you received
from the Cooper City? No, no, from the Board of Board of Supervisors,
yes. Yeah.
761
01:27:01.260 --> 01:27:02.570
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): stone.
762
01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:18.919
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So you… so let me understand this. So the
Santa Clara County said you can't work with Flan. Yes. But had our
contract not expired at the time that it did, you'd have continued to
work with one as a city?
763
01:27:19.280 --> 01:27:21.839
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, it wouldn't have. We just lost money.
764
01:27:22.200 --> 01:27:24.390
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, you would've just lost money, yeah,
but…
765
01:27:24.390 --> 01:27:36.439
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): it's… so, like, the city of Saratoga,
they've paid their contract till December 2028, so… but now we can't
operate or touch flock, so there's a… there's a financial loss there for
them.
766
01:27:36.830 --> 01:27:54.439
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): the City of Cupertino's contract was set
to expire, so I don't know, there might be a financial loss, but I'm not
really sure what that is, but it's not… we're talking about days, we're
not talking about December of 2020. Our intent, again, was to go neutral
on the… the… the…
767
01:27:54.440 --> 01:27:57.640
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Vendor, and more pro the technology.
768
01:27:57.680 --> 01:27:59.770
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): But…
769
01:28:00.370 --> 01:28:01.940
Quinlan Conf Room: The direction, again.
770
01:28:01.940 --> 01:28:05.920
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): from the Board of Supervisors was to the
Sheriff, is that we don't…
771
01:28:06.250 --> 01:28:08.800
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Manage, access, or contract the flock.
772
01:28:10.080 --> 01:28:12.460
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thanks.
773
01:28:12.465 --> 01:28:26.514
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I guess, so to the point about,
like, now the search is, like, underway for vendors and stuff, I guess,
is there, like, a rough timeline as to, like, what they've said about
standing up those capabilities? I have…
774
01:28:26.515 --> 01:28:35.314
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't have a rough timeline.
Unfortunately, we're pressuring Axon to help us out with this, because
775
01:28:35.335 --> 01:28:47.265
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): not just us, by the way, we're… we're
actually, we're actually saying, hey, you got, you got a good, you got a
good opportunity here to come in and… and jump in, because Los Altos
Hills is… is… could use ALPRs.
776
01:28:47.285 --> 01:28:57.335
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Mountain View could use them, Saratoga,
Cupertino, and I'm afraid the writing's on the wall that a lot of other
agencies are going to start dropping their agreements with Bluff.
777
01:28:57.755 --> 01:29:11.645
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): just because of the… it's never… it's not
been any agency that's done anything wrong. This has been more of a issue
with their end and their, and the way that they, I guess they do their
coding or something, so…
778
01:29:12.190 --> 01:29:18.789
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, interesting. Yeah, because I feel
like I remember when the original agreement was being discussed, like, I
felt like
779
01:29:19.040 --> 01:29:21.609
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I felt like we were asking questions
about, like.
780
01:29:22.370 --> 01:29:24.630
Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, like, is it certain that…
781
01:29:24.630 --> 01:29:30.549
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): they won't have access to, like, share the
data with other people, and, like, I… I feel like the answer was yes back
then. Yeah.
782
01:29:30.555 --> 01:29:33.555
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, I think this is what documented
as well. Yeah, yeah.
783
01:29:33.555 --> 01:29:42.454
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I understand, and this is not accurate,
but in the case of Mountain View, it was a single license plate reader
camera that was lent to them from Flock.
784
01:29:42.495 --> 01:30:01.525
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): that was either not reset or something
wrong with it, where it was sharing with, two Air Force bases and, like,
a national park, right? So it wasn't like they were sharing with ICE or
the Department of Homeland Security. It was other federal agencies that
have flock.
785
01:30:01.665 --> 01:30:08.155
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): So… So, it might not… again, this wasn't
the City of Mountain View's issue. However.
786
01:30:08.405 --> 01:30:22.955
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): frequent audits, frequent scrubbing,
would have probably caught that, and not to blame any fingers at Mountain
View or anybody else, but… but we had, like I said, the model policy of
bi-weekly checks and monthly scrubbing of data, so,
787
01:30:23.055 --> 01:30:25.185
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Could have been… could have been caught,
who knows?
788
01:30:25.385 --> 01:30:25.925
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): So…
789
01:30:25.925 --> 01:30:28.925
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Mountainville comes under Santa Clara
County.
790
01:30:28.925 --> 01:30:33.355
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, they're their own municipality. They
just made the decision to not work with walking.
791
01:30:33.995 --> 01:30:37.754
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because of the inadvertent sharing with a
federal agency.
792
01:30:38.600 --> 01:30:41.719
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I have a question to the city staff,
right? So…
793
01:30:41.980 --> 01:30:52.679
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do we… I mean, I understand the Santa
Clara Board of Supervisors, currently decided not to use this, ALPR
system altogether, but… No, no, no, just what…
794
01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:53.320
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, it'.
795
01:30:54.075 --> 01:30:54.815
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Of course.
796
01:30:54.820 --> 01:30:58.869
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): with ALPRs, it's specifically not using
flock. But, yeah, currently.
797
01:30:58.875 --> 01:31:05.864
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): ALC system is down, because of this.
Because Flock is the vendor, the LPR system is not being used.
798
01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:13.490
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm not sure. We don't have access to
them anymore. I know in Saratoga, the cameras are still active.
799
01:31:13.710 --> 01:31:18.249
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): But… nobody's accessing the data, so…
800
01:31:18.255 --> 01:31:21.934
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I understand this, assuming that it is
active even in your routine.
801
01:31:22.495 --> 01:31:25.755
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): That data is stored regardless.
802
01:31:26.175 --> 01:31:39.174
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's being stored right now, at least in
Saratoga, it's being stored per our policy, which is 30 days and then
deleted. So… but again, couldn't tell you because I don't have any access
to it. Our access is terminated, so…
803
01:31:39.175 --> 01:31:39.675
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): unfortunate.
804
01:31:39.675 --> 01:31:40.765
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I believe, but…
805
01:31:40.770 --> 01:31:46.020
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So my question is, does the city still
have contract with Block, or is it expired?
806
01:31:46.025 --> 01:31:48.135
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm understanding at all. No.
807
01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:52.950
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): We… we do not have a renewed contract with
Flock. Okay, so even.
808
01:31:52.955 --> 01:32:05.385
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Even if the Santa Clara Board of
Supervisors, let's say next week that you go ahead to continue with the
flock, the City of Cupertino doesn't have a contract until a new contract
is in place, Cupertino City's data won't go to shared resources.
809
01:32:07.110 --> 01:32:16.600
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I can answer that. So, essentially, what
would happen is, if the Board of Supervisors kind of said, okay, you know
what, we'll let you work with Flock until you find a new vendor, the City
of Cupertuna could renew their contract with Flock.
810
01:32:16.890 --> 01:32:18.089
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Take care unit.
811
01:32:18.255 --> 01:32:22.065
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): It will take some time for the contract.
It would be, like.
812
01:32:22.065 --> 01:32:27.615
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): like an agreement to turn them back on or
whatever. Oh, okay. Sorry, finish your question.
813
01:32:27.805 --> 01:32:29.354
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, no, I hope all.
814
01:32:29.355 --> 01:32:34.504
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): portion of the city staff, because I
contacted as a resident, a Cubatino resident to the
815
01:32:34.505 --> 01:32:58.114
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Supervisor Margaret Agogogel, so I got a
response saying that, they sent a request to the city's leader, Cupertino
City leadership, nearly a month before the… I'm reading the email, okay?
We reached out to your city's leadership nearly a month before the policy
question on automated license plate reader camera systems was scheduled
to come back to the Board of Supervisors on February 24, 2026,
816
01:32:58.165 --> 01:33:13.744
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Unfortunately, we did not receive any
input, so I made the best decision I could with the information I had. I
mean, it is a long email, but I'm just reading a small part of it. So I
was wondering, is it, like, something we did not, as a Cupertino city,
did not send, as a…
817
01:33:14.165 --> 01:33:16.475
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Strategy-wise, or… I don't know.
818
01:33:16.475 --> 01:33:18.165
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, I was not involved in that.
819
01:33:19.155 --> 01:33:24.134
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, is it something we can ask the city
to find out? I mean, cities have to find out? .
820
01:33:26.370 --> 01:33:32.210
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): To ask what the city manager, if… If
anything was sent?
821
01:33:32.215 --> 01:33:37.064
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll forward the email to her and figure
out if there was something we could have done differently.
822
01:33:37.070 --> 01:33:44.949
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, it's coming like a formal email,
as, again, not to the Public Safety Commissioner, as to the resident,
right? So, it says…
823
01:33:44.955 --> 01:33:48.784
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think that's perfectly fine to forward
that to Marta.
824
01:33:48.785 --> 01:33:51.435
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'd like to forward that to me, and then I
can… Okay.
825
01:33:51.440 --> 01:33:53.210
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll forward them. I can speak to the.
826
01:33:53.215 --> 01:34:03.534
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): On the county's behalf, we did not
receive any inquiries, because what happened was our… it was on the
calendar, they tabled it, and said that they were going to do some
follow-up
827
01:34:03.985 --> 01:34:13.264
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): we, the Sheriff's Office, did not get any
questions or any additional follow-up questions from the Board of
Supervisors, so I don't know if they've reached out to members of the
city staff.
828
01:34:13.425 --> 01:34:15.894
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): But I know in our end, we did not get
anything from them.
829
01:34:16.840 --> 01:34:20.010
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thanks for the clarification. Good. So,
for…
830
01:34:20.010 --> 01:34:28.070
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): to the… I wanted to make that, you know,
the ALPR system itself is still functional?
831
01:34:28.900 --> 01:34:31.969
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, what did you say? No, so.
832
01:34:34.970 --> 01:34:44.180
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): From my understanding, with the ending of
the contract, part of that is that Flock would take the cameras back.
833
01:34:45.490 --> 01:34:47.930
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, we paid for those cameras.
834
01:34:48.460 --> 01:34:53.590
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's more, it's more like, I think you
loses. Yeah. You didn't use the cameras? Okay.
835
01:34:54.550 --> 01:34:56.580
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): We didn't buy them. No.
836
01:34:56.580 --> 01:34:59.079
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So they're not, they're not iffy. They're
not forbidden.
837
01:34:59.080 --> 01:35:05.840
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): If they get damaged, they're flocked
property, they've replaced them, but it's… they're leased. You lease them
for a certain time.
838
01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:06.360
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So when the.
839
01:35:06.360 --> 01:35:08.599
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): contract is done, they take them away
anyway.
840
01:35:08.605 --> 01:35:20.215
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's the… that's the… I can tell you
that I just spoke to Los Altos Hills the other day, there's still some
that are still up there, so… but nobody… they're not on, nobody's
accessing them, so… Probably they didn't. It'll probably be sometime. So,
in the case of Saratoga.
841
01:35:20.215 --> 01:35:21.814
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): But what are they doing with the cameras?
842
01:35:22.090 --> 01:35:31.250
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): In their case, they still have a contract
in flux, so the cameras are still on, the cameras are still capturing
data, they're being scrubbed every 30 days, we just don't have access to
the data.
843
01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:37.520
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Saratoga has a very good policy. Like,
they're following the sheriff's office recommendations.
844
01:35:37.690 --> 01:35:40.490
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): But, I mean, but… The shots.
845
01:35:40.495 --> 01:35:44.935
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): actually, like, can't look at it. Sheriff
can't look at it. The sheriff's office can't look at it.
846
01:35:46.150 --> 01:35:49.890
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, all of this misunderstanding starts
because…
847
01:35:50.375 --> 01:35:51.875
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Of mountaine.
848
01:35:51.875 --> 01:35:54.854
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): It really amount of you noticing that one…
849
01:35:54.855 --> 01:36:01.144
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): than just Fountain View, Denver had
issues, different other… other cities, other municipalities, if you look
at the news.
850
01:36:01.145 --> 01:36:14.874
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): A lot of agencies are reporting
accidental sharing to federal agencies that they were not authorized to
do. And so it wasn't, again, not a problem on these police
municipalities, it was more of a flock-ish sharing.
851
01:36:14.875 --> 01:36:17.995
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I can't… and I… there's… there's
zero…
852
01:36:18.145 --> 01:36:24.734
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Not a case I can point to where this led
to the deportation or some immigration status problem. However.
853
01:36:25.505 --> 01:36:33.144
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's where the problem is, where we can
tell you we're not sharing with anybody, but… and a lot of people would
say the same thing.
854
01:36:33.485 --> 01:36:39.255
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): However, when you find out that you had
been, it's a problem, right? Yes, for sure.
855
01:36:40.320 --> 01:36:45.490
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, the privacy receives concern.
Privacy receivers concerned for those agents. Yeah.
856
01:36:46.180 --> 01:36:47.050
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Cook.
857
01:36:48.770 --> 01:36:51.060
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): As we move on to public comment.
858
01:36:52.940 --> 01:36:55.490
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, one side.
859
01:36:56.710 --> 01:37:01.059
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): But, as a concerned citizen… Give her just
one second, so she can follow up.
860
01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:04.290
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let me just turn on the timer for you.
861
01:37:06.260 --> 01:37:09.199
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Nice, solved. Go ahead.
862
01:37:09.205 --> 01:37:14.945
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I heard your statistics about crime rates
up.
863
01:37:15.005 --> 01:37:18.975
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): You all probably see the next door posts.
864
01:37:18.975 --> 01:37:36.174
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): people, you know, coming through, doing
things. I've seen the TV ads where people drive into a store, and with 3
or 4 people, in a few minutes, I'll take out all the electronics in the
store, or jewelry in a store, and then go to another county, perhaps, or
wherever.
865
01:37:36.355 --> 01:37:41.834
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's a concern, so we just want you to do
the best for us as possible.
866
01:37:41.965 --> 01:37:47.314
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): And unfortunately, it appears to this
concerned citizens that the ice overlay
867
01:37:47.765 --> 01:37:53.055
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Has so biased the decision-making against
common sense.
868
01:37:53.205 --> 01:37:58.655
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): And in today's environment, where there is
the risk of
869
01:37:58.825 --> 01:38:14.125
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): of alien actors coming in across state
boundaries. We want the ability for the Sheriff's Department to work with
city agencies, other county agencies, state agency, and the FBI without
all of this
870
01:38:14.125 --> 01:38:21.934
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): politics, as an overlay that impedes
progress. And so, I encourage you to get the city to do the right thing.
871
01:38:23.095 --> 01:38:24.785
Quinlan Conf Room: Complete.
872
01:38:25.275 --> 01:38:29.025
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Here, we have, no remaining speakers, Nice
chair.
873
01:38:29.900 --> 01:38:33.370
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sounds good. Any final Commissioner
comments? No.
874
01:38:33.620 --> 01:38:39.480
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Great. Yeah, wanted to… discussion on
fraud.
875
01:38:40.590 --> 01:38:42.490
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Alright, it's regarding that.
876
01:38:44.020 --> 01:38:49.889
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): There are… I didn't do too much research,
but I have some notes, and I think,
877
01:38:50.550 --> 01:38:53.370
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, I do have one call to action item.
878
01:38:54.290 --> 01:39:00.239
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I think, I've seen, with my
collaboration with, the Cape Pertino residents,
879
01:39:00.340 --> 01:39:05.739
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Through either WhatsApp or Nextdoor or,
like, one-on-one conversations.
880
01:39:06.290 --> 01:39:24.809
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): there is a lot of scams… the scams are
definitely increasing, right? Whether it's, the advertisement saying that
it's a cheap vehicle, somebody's trying to sell it next door, from out of
state, or it could be, the emails, the tech support. Even on my Cupertino
City official email, I'm getting so many
881
01:39:24.810 --> 01:39:41.230
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): emails. Right now, I have, like, probably
5 or 6 spam emails. I don't know what we are doing, I mean, the city's
technology department is doing, but that's a separate matter. The overall
the scams are increasing, whether it's love romance-related or
government, government, personal impersonal initiations.
882
01:39:41.590 --> 01:39:51.849
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think the national losses are also… I
was hearing the radio the other day, looks like the national losses are
in billions, and California is in top third or fourth, state, overall.
883
01:39:52.180 --> 01:39:55.560
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): For these, scams.
884
01:39:55.920 --> 01:39:59.609
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I think it's a key public safety
issue.
885
01:39:59.660 --> 01:40:17.969
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I think it's impacting the financial
security and trust of the community and overall well-being. So I think we
really thank our sheriff's office, for all the stock scams, again, a
seniors campaign, or slow it down, investigate before you act kind of
campaigns.
886
01:40:18.230 --> 01:40:20.560
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think also,
887
01:40:21.230 --> 01:40:28.059
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I think, my recommendation would be
to increase the frequency of, like, workshops
888
01:40:28.230 --> 01:40:35.329
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): With the multilingual options, like, with
some real-life examples to increase the awareness.
889
01:40:35.620 --> 01:40:49.560
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): especially to the request of the
Sheriff's Department. And also, to the city staff, maybe, you know, we
could reach with the city newsletters, putting some additional
information on the city web… the city website.
890
01:40:49.750 --> 01:40:55.860
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Especially, in multi… again, I repeat,
multilingual, that way it reaches more audience.
891
01:40:57.020 --> 01:40:59.559
Quinlan Conf Room: And.
892
01:41:00.590 --> 01:41:09.599
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, and also, when possible, also
collaborate with other organizations like AARP, or the Santa Clara County
Elder Fraud Unit.
893
01:41:11.190 --> 01:41:17.690
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Based on the feasibility and possibility,
and I think I recommend, we take a call to action.
894
01:41:17.900 --> 01:41:25.819
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): draft a commission recommendation, to the
City Council, for funding and a staff report, to…
895
01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:30.460
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So overall, on this initiative of,
creating awareness on the scans.
896
01:41:32.500 --> 01:41:43.449
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, just as a follow-up to that, I have
the same concern. The bigger concern for me is, you know, the bots
themselves that are being created as a result of this AI.
897
01:41:43.540 --> 01:41:57.710
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So then, now, we have… it's one thing when
you have a couple of individuals that are doing something that gives you
the wrong information, but then when they create bots that are actually
talking to each other, making it seem like it is a…
898
01:41:58.310 --> 01:42:00.679
Quinlan Conf Room: Salad, you know.
899
01:42:01.380 --> 01:42:10.480
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): issue or, you know, it's a viral event, or
a viral issue, then it becomes much more. But the answer to
900
01:42:10.480 --> 01:42:22.830
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): figuring out all these problems is at the
bottom of it is all is education. The more you know about it, the more
you're less likely you are going to get into it. It doesn't mean that you
have 100%.
901
01:42:22.840 --> 01:42:40.809
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): thing, you'll always fall for something.
One of the things that kind of irritates me, but the city IT department
does, I'm sure you all get it too, no before, or no whatever. Every third
day I get something else, it's like phishing attacks or something.
902
01:42:41.010 --> 01:42:47.289
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Now it's kind of annoying, but it only
takes, like, 5-10 minutes to do that.
903
01:42:47.500 --> 01:42:56.660
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think that if there was some way we
could roll it out as a volunteer thing to the population in general.
904
01:42:57.460 --> 01:42:59.129
Quinlan Conf Room: That might be…
905
01:42:59.180 --> 01:43:07.520
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): that might be… I mean, I'm going down into
the detail here, but it's just the fact of, you know, we have many, many
avenues for
906
01:43:07.630 --> 01:43:18.959
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): For education, go through the, you know,
sheriff's department, we can go through our senior center, we could go
through, you know, the various organizations within… within the city.
907
01:43:19.360 --> 01:43:27.820
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): that can help, you know, through the
Rotary, through the Lions, through the… through the CLF. There's so many
organizations here who can all sort of…
908
01:43:28.370 --> 01:43:32.919
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Pull resources, and then continue the
series, so to speak.
909
01:43:33.440 --> 01:43:36.799
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, so yeah, I, so I, I.
910
01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:41.590
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I was, like, digging into two things. So
one was actually, like.
911
01:43:42.470 --> 01:43:52.330
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): thought about… so, like, in the 2010s, I
think, in general, there was, like, a very successful… like, you could
argue on the merits of it, but, like, fairly successful campaign
912
01:43:52.330 --> 01:44:08.210
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): like, nationally, right, about, like,
basic cybersecurity, right? Like, don't reuse passwords, like, don't, you
know, write passwords down, like, try not to write passwords down, maybe
use, like, a password manager. And then, like, of course, like, now most
people know these terms, like, phishing and, like.
913
01:44:08.260 --> 01:44:14.099
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): that was, like, reasonably successful,
like, obviously it's not gonna be 100%, but reasonably successful for,
like.
914
01:44:14.620 --> 01:44:18.420
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Making people aware of, like, that
iteration of the internet.
915
01:44:18.640 --> 01:44:38.109
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it's like, now, I guess what's
actually needed is actually less of the same. Like, I think people just,
like, fall asleep if we… if you give them, like, a webinar or something
like that, but I think what might work is maybe sharing information about
threats that are completely novel. Like, so, for example,
916
01:44:38.440 --> 01:44:42.669
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Recently, there was a study that was
performed, which is, like,
917
01:44:43.170 --> 01:45:01.229
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): like, there's a thing called a Turing
test, right? Which is, like, can a person, like, distinguish whether
something is a machine or a human? But there's actually, like, a voice
version of this now. So, like, AI is, like, really good at sounding
exactly like a human. There's this new, like, entirely new class of scams
happening where
918
01:45:01.230 --> 01:45:05.309
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Like, these numbers would just bombard,
like, a senior's phone number.
919
01:45:05.430 --> 01:45:15.480
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, like, it'll basically… the AI
will basically start elaborating on some, like, urgent situation, like,
oh my god, like, I'm in trouble, like, I need…
920
01:45:15.480 --> 01:45:40.450
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I need you to, like, log on to Wells Fargo
and, like, send me whatever, right? And it's like, this is a completely
novel class of threat, and, like, the solutions are also fairly novel.
Like, for example, I was, like, asking some questions to a professor at,
UC Berkeley about this, and he was saying, like, the solution is actually
very, like, low-tech. It's like, you should actually establish, like, a
safe word of some kind with, like, your family members. It's like.
921
01:45:40.450 --> 01:45:59.719
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): almost sounds kind of, like, dystopian or,
like, sci-fi, but it works, right? So maybe we can include something like
that in the Scene magazine or something, like, oh, just, like, AI
cybersecurity tip of the month or something like that. Just, like, a
simple, like, low-lift thing that we could do, I think, to hit on these,
like, novel things. That actually…
922
01:45:59.725 --> 01:46:08.035
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): happened to my cousin. Oh, yeah, there you
go. She's not exactly, you know… she's… she's a computer literate person.
923
01:46:08.315 --> 01:46:20.605
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And she actually had some… somebody had
actually done a voice of her son, and said that he was being arrested,
and that they needed to send money for his bail.
924
01:46:21.385 --> 01:46:23.375
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): She tried to call him.
925
01:46:23.825 --> 01:46:28.845
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): The fool was at work and didn't pick up
his phone, so there was general panic all around.
926
01:46:28.955 --> 01:46:34.545
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): But they finally got around to a friend
who's also at work, and asked him to call home.
927
01:46:34.805 --> 01:46:53.144
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And so they asked him where he was, and he
says, I'm at work. So then that's how the whole thing… but it… for the
half an hour that they had the conversation… I mean, when she told me the
story, I thought, this is ridiculous, how could you believe it? But when
she explained the fact that she tried to reach him and he did not answer
this phone. Yeah.
928
01:46:53.145 --> 01:46:57.294
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): It tends to put a doubt when you actually
hear his voice.
929
01:46:57.305 --> 01:46:59.735
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah. And they're so close!
930
01:47:00.225 --> 01:47:07.285
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): You know. Yeah. And this is from a person
who's computer. Yeah, totally. So…
931
01:47:07.775 --> 01:47:21.825
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it's been happening for a few times. I
mean, you know, this is definitely… and the safe… and like you said, the
safe word is something we've established in our family. Yeah. It's a
silly word, but still, you know, nobody else would know that. Right.
932
01:47:21.945 --> 01:47:39.925
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, totally. So I think, yeah, I
definitely, like, moved to maybe, like, department, like, the
communications department, here at City Staff could, like, send over some
information that we want. Tips and tricks. Yeah, exactly, like, tips and
tricks for staying safe.
933
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): or even that, you know, recognizing that
phishing email, some 5-minute thing that we go through every week, I get
something from them, saying it's phishing, or something else, or
something else, they're constantly sending. And of course, there are
934
01:47:53.545 --> 01:48:01.244
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think a lot of the emails that are
coming through into our account are actually IT testing us.
935
01:48:02.790 --> 01:48:08.730
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I doubt that, but we… It's quite
possible. It's quite possible.
936
01:48:09.390 --> 01:48:22.969
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): But… but all of these, I think… and the
bottom line being that education and how we get there, some tips and
tricks, or actual, you know, quick classes, 5 minutes will be the
difference. Go ahead.
937
01:48:22.970 --> 01:48:27.759
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I had one other, thing that I was
into as well, which is,
938
01:48:27.830 --> 01:48:39.069
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, like, to your point about how, like,
now, like, social media and, like, a lot of the platforms that we as,
like, residents spend a lot of time on are, like, slowly starting to get,
939
01:48:39.080 --> 01:48:48.130
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): inundated, right, with, like, a lot of,
like, AI-generated content, like, whether it's bots or people, like,
whatever.
940
01:48:48.330 --> 01:48:55.570
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): like… to… to really maybe, like, address
this, right? It's like, there probably needs to be some kind of…
941
01:48:55.740 --> 01:48:56.620
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Like…
942
01:48:57.110 --> 01:49:15.030
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): legislative push, like, maybe I was
thinking, like, we could, you know, talk to Assemblymember Patrick
Ahrens, like, kind of understand, like, what's the temperature like in
Sacramento about, like, just making it obvious that something has been
AI-generated, right? Like, I don't know, like, for example, on LinkedIn.
943
01:49:15.190 --> 01:49:18.489
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): if a picture is AI-generated, there's,
like, a tiny, like.
944
01:49:18.660 --> 01:49:24.929
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Literally, you have no idea what that
symbol is, but there is a symbol of some kind. It's, like, just there,
but…
945
01:49:25.060 --> 01:49:27.089
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I feel like it would just make quality…
946
01:49:27.090 --> 01:49:30.369
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): of cigarette packets. But it's not like
that.
947
01:49:30.375 --> 01:49:48.694
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's not like that. Like, the whole thing
is, like, it's very inconspicuous, right? So, like, something that could,
I think, greatly impact safety and, like, make life safer on the internet
is, like, just making it obvious that, like, yeah, this is, like, AI-
generated, but obviously, as a city of Cupertino, we don't have the
948
01:49:48.905 --> 01:49:55.265
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's like the firepower to, like, get
something done like that, but we can maybe, schedule some kind of
949
01:49:55.565 --> 01:50:02.305
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): meeting, maybe, like, send an email to the
assemblymember to kind of get his thoughts on
950
01:50:02.445 --> 01:50:08.565
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): what can we do legislatively, or push
forward legislatively? We have a meeting coming up.
951
01:50:09.410 --> 01:50:11.200
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): March 17th?
952
01:50:11.385 --> 01:50:13.694
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, like a townhouse. Town Hall. Oh, okay.
953
01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:19.859
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think that's… I think it should be
outside this form, in my opinion. Yeah, it would be outside this form.
954
01:50:19.865 --> 01:50:20.905
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): But, yeah.
955
01:50:21.035 --> 01:50:34.384
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So yeah, I guess, like, in summary, I
guess two, two things from… that I was thinking of, like, one, like, the
tips that we can inject into the scene of the newsletter, and then number
two,
956
01:50:34.825 --> 01:50:37.014
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Starting if we get the fucking bill.
957
01:50:37.015 --> 01:50:44.064
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I think… I think let's… let's come
to… I know too many ideas, right? Let's come to a crisp action plan. Go
ahead. So the third one I would.
958
01:50:44.070 --> 01:50:56.010
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): at, I mean, the packet one is outside of
the scope of the same thing, so the tips and tricks, definitely. But I
would like to see if we could have some way to have a quick
959
01:50:56.370 --> 01:51:06.800
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): you know, a link to an alternating patient
that IT department provided, something that they can… To the residents of
Virginia. To the residents of Virginia, which is voluntary.
960
01:51:06.980 --> 01:51:11.049
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, we're not forcing everybody to do
that, but if you want to get educated.
961
01:51:11.480 --> 01:51:15.699
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Here's a video. Same under the tips and
tricks.
962
01:51:15.905 --> 01:51:22.174
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I feel like, just speaking as… I mean,
just speaking as, like, a resident's perspective, like, I don't know, I
feel like…
963
01:51:22.415 --> 01:51:25.884
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I feel like something like that would be,
like, very high lift.
964
01:51:25.890 --> 01:51:36.159
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): People have really less attention span
nowadays. If you say training, I heard some of the commissioners are also
upset with so many trainings they need to do. Somehow you're asking.
965
01:51:36.165 --> 01:51:55.484
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, there are, for sure, I mean, when
you get one every month, you look at it like, I know already what to do
here, but there are people who are interested in it, and it's giving them
the option. If there is something available, send it. You don't want… you
find that no one's signing up for it, you can always cancel that. Okay. I
guess it's just like…
966
01:51:56.170 --> 01:52:02.960
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Like, someone needs to, like, put in the…
like, someone needs to, like, spend time, money, and effort on that,
right?
967
01:52:03.100 --> 01:52:07.180
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): And also the maintaining the document, or
the training material.
968
01:52:07.185 --> 01:52:11.685
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): asking is, is there anything that the IT
department already has?
969
01:52:11.685 --> 01:52:15.305
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): For compliance, regulatory requirements,
all that.
970
01:52:16.495 --> 01:52:23.174
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): has to be reviewed, right? The training
material, when it's going to res… I mean, I don't know. I can't see… So
maybe the action would be that we.
971
01:52:23.175 --> 01:52:24.475
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): work with TIC.
972
01:52:25.090 --> 01:52:29.380
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): to see if any easy… Yes. Okay. Yeah.
Because they have…
973
01:52:29.380 --> 01:52:39.030
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): every so… I mean, last year they had two,
or the last year or the year before, they had two such events that they
would have, like, security, online security.
974
01:52:39.370 --> 01:52:44.010
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't know how good the attendance was
also what's not, but at least they had the event.
975
01:52:44.160 --> 01:52:46.810
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And this is something the technology comes
right…
976
01:52:46.815 --> 01:53:01.254
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, it comes right under… Yeah, I didn't
see much participation in the TICC committee last time. I attended the
session, but I don't think this is a great participation. Okay, I think
let's agree on the action items, recommendations.
977
01:53:01.355 --> 01:53:13.484
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I think, again, I, I praise Sheriff's
Office, right, for their campaigns. I want to ask Sheriff's Office if
they have any in 2026 scheduled, like, against,
978
01:53:13.525 --> 01:53:23.544
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): seniors, right, any stops, stops, like,
any seniors kind of campaigns, or, anything scheduled in the Cupertino,
the Sweden Center, or… I could check, they just have.
979
01:53:23.545 --> 01:53:34.825
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): a couple of them, so I know they've done
a couple, okay. We do them here at the Senior Center, the Saratoga Senior
Center, so I know that I'm trying to check, but we just did a few, so…
Yeah, that's.
980
01:53:34.825 --> 01:53:37.784
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): the senior center is where I was thinking,
or this education.
981
01:53:37.785 --> 01:53:52.764
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right, and if they're conducting session,
even if it's a nearby city, I think we should push that information to
the residents. That could be very valuable. Again, we don't know how many
people will attend, but I think we'll use the existing forum. That's one
action item, right?
982
01:53:52.765 --> 01:54:07.885
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): And the second one is boost outreach,
right? That's what you're saying. Distribute tips on red flags, tools,
like, I've been, advocating on Nextdoor very, too much about how to call,
how to block the calls, right, from iOS or Android devices and all.
983
01:54:07.885 --> 01:54:18.625
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, so, and other tips, right? And I
think this, outreach, right, I think we should go to city newsletter's
website, and of course, we can push it to the next doors and, senior
centers and libraries.
984
01:54:18.785 --> 01:54:26.885
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): boosting these tips. It could be, like,
like you said, monthly, not too much at the same time, right? But,
frequently.
985
01:54:27.050 --> 01:54:34.160
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, like, even just, like, one per
edition of, like, a scene, I think would just be, like, a huge net
positive.
986
01:54:34.260 --> 01:54:39.279
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I guess, like, would that be up to us to
come up with the list of things, or would that be something that.
987
01:54:39.285 --> 01:54:40.015
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, I can.
988
01:54:40.020 --> 01:54:43.779
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): reach out and put in a comms request, or
communication. Okay.
989
01:54:43.785 --> 01:54:47.485
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): We can… we can send a newsletter kind of
thing to you, and you can subclic it.
990
01:54:48.745 --> 01:54:49.705
Quinlan Conf Room: Yes.
991
01:54:50.125 --> 01:54:51.055
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
992
01:54:51.305 --> 01:54:58.474
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so I think then we can informally
collaborate and pull all the ideas and give it to you, right? And .
993
01:54:59.265 --> 01:55:01.444
Quinlan Conf Room: We're getting close to the brown axe.
994
01:55:01.450 --> 01:55:02.190
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): If you.
995
01:55:02.190 --> 01:55:02.930
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): as I did.
996
01:55:02.930 --> 01:55:03.680
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Send it to her.
997
01:55:03.685 --> 01:55:04.415
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): You can email it.
998
01:55:04.420 --> 01:55:21.330
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): to me. Okay, we each send the, like, tips
on red flags, tools, call blocking, etc. We send it to you, and the city
staff will explore putting in the newsletter and website, and also
posting it on the senior centers and libraries.
999
01:55:21.700 --> 01:55:26.100
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. I think that's the CRISP action
item. Yeah. Okay. And the…
1000
01:55:26.230 --> 01:55:35.550
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): The other one I have is, draft a
commission recommendation to City Council for funding and, the staff
report, to further explore this.
1001
01:55:35.860 --> 01:55:42.290
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't know, Lindsay, that we can… make
a recommendation to pencil.
1002
01:55:42.520 --> 01:55:44.230
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, this is not on the agenda.
1003
01:55:45.150 --> 01:55:47.239
Quinlan Conf Room: That's a really good question I can ask.
1004
01:55:48.110 --> 01:55:49.330
Quinlan Conf Room: I'm not sure.
1005
01:55:50.210 --> 01:55:52.150
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, I mean, we can get the…
1006
01:55:52.150 --> 01:55:54.599
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): We can make a recommendation, they can
ignore it.
1007
01:55:56.570 --> 01:56:00.630
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): having… I think they have the
technicality and the process, right?
1008
01:56:01.700 --> 01:56:05.030
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): We can… yeah. We're asking is very
difficult.
1009
01:56:05.030 --> 01:56:05.780
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, alright.
1010
01:56:05.815 --> 01:56:08.735
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's real time. Perfect. That's great.
1011
01:56:08.895 --> 01:56:20.734
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, I think these are only the three
action items we are agreeing, right? One is leveraging sheriff's office,
campaigns and circulating it to Cupidino residents.
1012
01:56:20.925 --> 01:56:24.285
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Boost outreach, the tips, red flags.
1013
01:56:24.455 --> 01:56:26.015
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then.
1014
01:56:26.610 --> 01:56:28.620
Quinlan Conf Room: permission recommendation, I think.
1015
01:56:30.290 --> 01:56:36.009
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So the commission recommendations, what's
the… what's, like, the outlook for that account?
1016
01:56:36.900 --> 01:56:42.819
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): To get a staff report, on, how do we
increase the overall, awareness.
1017
01:56:43.460 --> 01:56:44.090
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I see.
1018
01:56:46.870 --> 01:56:51.030
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): And also, I'm thinking, like, I don't
know, so that would basically be, like…
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01:56:51.030 --> 01:56:56.220
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): City… Staff, like, doing research, kind
of.
1020
01:56:56.225 --> 01:56:59.914
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Those are similar to any other staff
people, right?
1021
01:57:00.790 --> 01:57:01.400
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Excellent.
1022
01:57:02.060 --> 01:57:05.569
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think we might want to just, when you
look at this…
1023
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): TAP recommendation, want to be more
specific about what you want them to research on, so I would even say
that we should first
1024
01:57:17.450 --> 01:57:19.699
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Look at the TIP commission.
1025
01:57:20.240 --> 01:57:23.900
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And see, they have something that they
can, or they have something.
1026
01:57:23.905 --> 01:57:36.645
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's great, yeah, because they
conducted the session also recently. TICC committee conducted the
session, awareness on the scams. I think this comes pretty much in their
purview as well, so I think we should collaborate with the TICC
committee.
1027
01:57:36.645 --> 01:57:42.174
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So the recommendation would be, how do we
do a joint session between the two?
1028
01:57:42.575 --> 01:58:02.204
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): commissions to say, okay, what do… what
can we do together to help the residents? Or one of us goes to a tick
commission as a guest, and then asks them, I mean, what can we do with
that commission, rather than trying to do it on our own, because they are
the ones who are more qualified for.
1029
01:58:02.820 --> 01:58:17.789
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Well, I think, like you said, I think
let's keep it two, strings, right? One is, once they say it's possible,
drop the Commission recommendation to City Council for funding and, staff
support, for, like, pushing this information
1030
01:58:17.950 --> 01:58:28.469
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): or, like, a campaign, or whatever that
quarterly seminar or something. Then we also collaborate with DICC to see
what is their plan. Yeah, same thing. So two channels, let's possible.
1031
01:58:30.610 --> 01:58:34.769
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I guess it's not clear to me, like, what
exactly the output of…
1032
01:58:35.050 --> 01:58:37.499
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): collaborating with Tick would be, like…
1033
01:58:37.980 --> 01:58:41.220
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm making some assumptions here, but,
like, I feel like…
1034
01:58:41.370 --> 01:58:52.120
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): there's a strong likelihood that the
output of that would just be, like, oh yeah, we should, like, put stuff
on seed and the existing city resources, right? Like, what tools or
resources…
1035
01:58:52.125 --> 01:59:06.674
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): you know, I forgot exact session, but it
is all about whatever we are talking about. It's all related to scams,
and how to… fraud prevention, and how to increase the awareness,
especially to seniors. This all was covered in one of the sessions. It
happened, I think, December?
1036
01:59:06.675 --> 01:59:12.425
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or maybe the month back? September,
September, sometime. Okay. Something like that.
1037
01:59:12.425 --> 01:59:13.145
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think that's bad.
1038
01:59:13.150 --> 01:59:19.899
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's a singular radio, I forgot. But it
was, like, an in-person event. It was an in-person event. And also
broadcasted online.
1039
01:59:19.905 --> 01:59:38.425
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So my reason for asking TikT to do that is
they probably have access to more vendors who may be able to come in and
do a session, or they have, you know, they're constantly talking at all
technology vendors, so they may have access to more…
1040
01:59:39.025 --> 01:59:42.875
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): More resources, and if everyone gets some
money, you may as well spend it in that
1041
01:59:43.055 --> 01:59:44.195
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): If we do virtual.
1042
01:59:44.195 --> 01:59:55.534
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think we should push both channels.
Let's going to collaborate with the ICC as individual commissioners.
Let's ask the city staff to see how to draft a commission recommendation.
1043
01:59:56.905 --> 02:00:01.704
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): We can… I think, I mean, if we… I don't
know if we need to vote or just to discuss.
1044
02:00:01.955 --> 02:00:02.675
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): recommend.
1045
02:00:04.865 --> 02:00:12.214
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, basically, funding and city staff
support, for, like, like a seminar or campaign. It's similar to what our
TACC deal in the
1046
02:00:12.365 --> 02:00:13.505
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Q or 3R.
1047
02:00:13.715 --> 02:00:19.064
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): a Q4 of last year. I see. It is like
conducting a webinar session, right?
1048
02:00:19.355 --> 02:00:33.144
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, the city council may have better
ideas, or, like, they can see what they did over the years. Yeah. See,
for example, I think, I heard, the sheriff's office stop scams, and his
seniors is quite, successful. Okay, yeah.
1049
02:00:33.595 --> 02:00:34.435
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes.
1050
02:00:35.325 --> 02:00:43.444
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, yeah, maybe even if it becomes… boils
down to, funding sheriff's Office to conduct that more often, maybe once
and quarterly.
1051
02:00:43.775 --> 02:00:52.265
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let's say there is a framework, there is
a tutor, there is a material already. With the sheriff's office. Instead
of reinventing the wheel, we leverage the existing.
1052
02:00:56.480 --> 02:00:57.200
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Alright.
1053
02:00:57.480 --> 02:01:04.599
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so next week is the meeting of the
chairs with the mayor, and you can…
1054
02:01:04.720 --> 02:01:07.380
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): you'll be attending as… It's on the 18th.
1055
02:01:07.385 --> 02:01:08.035
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes.
1056
02:01:08.035 --> 02:01:10.425
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): You can bring it up there. Okay.
1057
02:01:10.870 --> 02:01:11.490
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's good.
1058
02:01:11.490 --> 02:01:12.390
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes. Okay.
1059
02:01:12.395 --> 02:01:17.254
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, you're clear with us. Yes, so… I just
want to share this with you.
1060
02:01:17.255 --> 02:01:18.685
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let me just, like, write it down real
quick.
1061
02:01:18.940 --> 02:01:22.460
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, the first one is, like.
1062
02:01:23.270 --> 02:01:27.279
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I guess the ask for City Council is, like,
bottom line, it's like.
1063
02:01:27.480 --> 02:01:30.490
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Can we allocate more budget towards…
1064
02:01:30.495 --> 02:01:47.334
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Resources, city staff, city staff slash
funding to support some campaigns, like seminars, or collaborating with
the sheriff's office so that sheriff's office runs their campaigns more
often, maybe once in a quarter, in stock, like, once a year. Okay, yeah.
1065
02:01:50.215 --> 02:01:51.414
Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, I…
1066
02:01:51.835 --> 02:01:54.375
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I cannot send direct email, right? Okay.
1067
02:01:55.230 --> 02:01:58.850
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): You can send the email to her.
1068
02:01:59.450 --> 02:02:05.279
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I mean, if required, I can put it.
Yeah, may as well put it together. Yeah, I can send to Marta and PCC, the
Commission.
1069
02:02:05.285 --> 02:02:08.924
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): ECC. You send it to Marcia, and Marcia
will send it to us.
1070
02:02:08.925 --> 02:02:14.915
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, yeah, you cannot BCC. You cannot
BCC, because at that point, you have reached a quorum.
1071
02:02:15.570 --> 02:02:21.110
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, I see. So you can all send it to her?
And she can send it to anybody.
1072
02:02:21.650 --> 02:02:24.710
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. Or she can send it to everybody.
Okay.
1073
02:02:25.370 --> 02:02:30.800
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, okay, cool. So, I guess, public
comment?
1074
02:02:34.070 --> 02:02:45.700
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, thanks, alright. Okay, yeah, I guess
final comments on our side, so I guess, like,
1075
02:02:46.760 --> 02:02:51.180
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do we need to make a motion for our action
item here? Or…
1076
02:02:51.690 --> 02:03:00.429
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): the action item? I guess there's, like,
two actions, right? One action, or three actions. So, like, one is that…
1077
02:03:00.840 --> 02:03:12.600
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah. Okay, yeah, the Sheriff's Office
will gather the data of scheduled 2026, campaigns, like Stops Camps
Against Seniors, and we'll share it in the next meeting.
1078
02:03:12.605 --> 02:03:14.924
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's not a motion, that's just a request
to share.
1079
02:03:14.925 --> 02:03:15.655
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's funny.
1080
02:03:15.660 --> 02:03:23.399
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, yeah, I guess the second one is
that, like, we will… most outreach, yeah, like, we will individually…
1081
02:03:23.500 --> 02:03:41.149
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): email city staff on, like, things that we
think should be in the scene magazine, or other city communications.
Also, also doesn't need a motion. Okay, sure. And then the third one is,
like, just something that I would bring up at the mayor's meeting.
1082
02:03:41.500 --> 02:03:46.219
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): And after the meeting, we will get the
conversation information. Yes.
1083
02:03:47.320 --> 02:03:48.850
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Great.
1084
02:03:49.160 --> 02:03:52.200
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I guess no motions needed for that one.
1085
02:03:52.380 --> 02:03:56.829
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Perfect. Move on to the dash reports.
1086
02:04:02.940 --> 02:04:08.290
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sorry.
1087
02:04:08.290 --> 02:04:10.570
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): The brain doesn't been here.
1088
02:04:11.250 --> 02:04:22.550
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So the main thing is there is a mandatory
training for the commissioners Monday, March 30th, from 6 to 7 at
Community Hall. This is the annual commission training.
1089
02:04:24.870 --> 02:04:42.440
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): We had some activities the past two
months, some training, some exercises, and the block leader meeting will
be April 17th. That'll actually be down the hall here, and that will have
a presentation from sustainability.
1090
02:04:43.070 --> 02:04:53.070
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Ken and I, Ken runs the Citizen Corps
programs. We are continuing to run all…
1091
02:04:53.170 --> 02:04:56.749
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Five of the volunteer programs,
1092
02:04:56.860 --> 02:05:03.299
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): With the understanding that we want to
both work to improve the programs and expand, outreach.
1093
02:05:03.790 --> 02:05:06.720
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, no major changes, really, to report.
1094
02:05:07.480 --> 02:05:10.040
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, what are the five volunteer programs?
1095
02:05:10.265 --> 02:05:27.534
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, under Citizen Corps, there is CERT,
which is the, Community Emergency Response Team, MRC, which is Medical
Reserve Corps, and CARES, which is, you know, amateur radio emergency
services, and then there's the Block Leader Program and Neighborhood
Watch.
1096
02:05:32.720 --> 02:05:33.440
Quinlan Conf Room: Cool.
1097
02:05:36.600 --> 02:05:38.340
Quinlan Conf Room: Any commissioner reports?
1098
02:05:41.050 --> 02:05:45.189
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Cool. Alright, so moving on to future
agenda setting.
1099
02:05:45.590 --> 02:05:46.860
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Our honesty.
1100
02:05:48.990 --> 02:05:52.409
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner stopped, in the earlier…
1101
02:05:52.570 --> 02:06:01.619
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): we're talking about, like, like, expanding
the alert SEC signage stuff? Is that, like, an action item as well, or…
1102
02:06:02.050 --> 02:06:04.319
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): That is, through the roadshow.
1103
02:06:05.520 --> 02:06:08.560
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I think, I've got a good action
item, I suppose. Okay.
1104
02:06:08.720 --> 02:06:10.409
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, let's get confirmation.
1105
02:06:11.420 --> 02:06:17.279
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): All right. So, so, both, right? Alatasis
and P also talked about Genesis. Yes.
1106
02:06:17.600 --> 02:06:22.839
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, yeah, I guess, like, over email
is how we'll confirm the special meeting for the…
1107
02:06:23.650 --> 02:06:30.329
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so… Speaking of gender items,
neutral gender items…
1108
02:06:30.450 --> 02:06:39.299
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I guess in our next meeting, we will
have the evacuation route capacity from the fire department.
1109
02:06:39.730 --> 02:06:43.740
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, you write it.
1110
02:06:46.160 --> 02:06:52.029
Quinlan Conf Room: Just give me one second, I have something in my head,
and I'll…
1111
02:06:52.100 --> 02:06:54.800
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Something to… remember that.
1112
02:06:54.970 --> 02:07:01.260
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Take a look. Was it a girl? Was it a
mirror?
1113
02:07:02.400 --> 02:07:09.159
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): There's something about, you know, that
there was an action… To talk about,
1114
02:07:09.420 --> 02:07:14.790
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): What's happening with the hills, the
quarry, the brush management, and all of these?
1115
02:07:16.080 --> 02:07:17.859
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): High-file zones.
1116
02:07:18.310 --> 02:07:21.710
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Last time we, you know, we talked about…
1117
02:07:24.950 --> 02:07:32.829
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. Alright, so there were some, AZL
topics we did, discussed, for 2026, right? Are they going into the future
again?
1118
02:07:32.980 --> 02:07:35.890
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Well, I think we're tackling.
1119
02:07:36.205 --> 02:07:41.134
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): We're tackling, like, the first one,
right? Which is, like, the fraud and… and.
1120
02:07:41.135 --> 02:07:44.654
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, if it's the work plan, isn't it the
work plan?
1121
02:07:44.875 --> 02:07:52.624
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, so my understanding was that we were
doing Alert SEC and the fraud prevention at the same time. Right.
1122
02:07:52.625 --> 02:07:54.635
Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): work, right? That is happening.
1123
02:07:54.635 --> 02:07:58.175
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): The adult SEC hasn't really progressed,
though, right?
1124
02:07:58.395 --> 02:08:13.754
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I mean, again, we got the action
item, so whatever the campaign we thought about, to put people in the
library, that was not, good so far, in my personal opinion. But I think
we can continue collaboration and expand on that.
1125
02:08:14.445 --> 02:08:21.095
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): But I thought that automatically the
second topic from the works will come into the next meeting, isn't?
1126
02:08:21.095 --> 02:08:26.005
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): If we decide that a project is done, then
we can… Oh, I see.
1127
02:08:26.970 --> 02:08:30.620
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so we are still becoming this year.
1128
02:08:31.190 --> 02:08:46.920
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): scam fraud protection. Okay. So it says,
advocate for expanded ALPR and evaluate drone as first responder models
to assist the sheriff's office. What can we do for that? What was that?
1129
02:08:49.860 --> 02:08:52.480
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm reading from the work plan. Yeah, I'm…
1130
02:08:53.030 --> 02:08:57.139
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): That, I would have to speak with the
city's Chief Technology Officer.
1131
02:08:57.750 --> 02:09:00.030
Quinlan Conf Room: Okay.
1132
02:09:01.420 --> 02:09:06.520
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I mean, I think, like, we have two
things that we should execute well on.
1133
02:09:06.520 --> 02:09:09.640
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I'm just trying to understand if
that is something that can…
1134
02:09:10.480 --> 02:09:19.980
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think, let's park it as a feature that
isn't a topic, right? Like, anyways, it's part of the same sub-item. And,
meanwhile, we'll…
1135
02:09:20.090 --> 02:09:22.750
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): We'll do a lot of research and
collaborations.
1136
02:09:22.755 --> 02:09:30.555
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): remember what the issue was. The issue was
that, you know, there was… we were going to get some data on the red
light camera.
1137
02:09:30.675 --> 02:09:40.575
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): people skipping through the… you know,
intersections for the red lights.
1138
02:09:40.625 --> 02:09:53.154
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): There was… there's a lot of people that
are skipping the red lights. In fact, I saw the… one of the guys just in
front of me while I was coming in here, who just went through the red
light, not the yellow. I'm talking about the red.
1139
02:09:53.185 --> 02:10:01.005
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So there was… we were talked about, you
know, we should get some data if we have anything on the red light. No,
nothing now.
1140
02:10:01.005 --> 02:10:01.745
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, let's go.
1141
02:10:01.750 --> 02:10:19.540
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): couple of cities that are allowed to do
red light cameras by the state of California, and it's a pilot program,
and they don't have any… I don't have any data from those cities. San
Jose is the only city nearby that's allowed with that… with that program.
And I'm not really sure if you can share that data, but yeah, I just
don't know where they're at in the process.
1142
02:10:20.560 --> 02:10:24.989
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): But the pilot program, if the state wants
to do it at some point in time, they can allow other cities to.
1143
02:10:24.995 --> 02:10:28.524
Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do it, but right now, currently, there's
only certain cities that are allowed to do it.
1144
02:10:34.210 --> 02:10:41.659
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I guess we're stuck with what we have.
Yeah. The alert SCC, and… Yeah, yeah.
1145
02:10:41.660 --> 02:10:44.370
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, I feel like, I think that's pretty
important.
1146
02:10:44.375 --> 02:10:45.154
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's good at the.
1147
02:10:45.155 --> 02:10:47.395
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): At this point, yeah.
1148
02:10:47.395 --> 02:10:50.155
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, it requires quite a number of
appointments.
1149
02:10:51.280 --> 02:10:56.760
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Cool. Alright. I guess with that being
said, we can, adjourn.
1150
02:10:56.880 --> 02:11:01.890
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's 8, 11… Thank you.
1151
02:11:02.020 --> 02:11:02.750
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Cheers!