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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPRC 06-04-2026 Youtube and Zoom TranscriptWEBVTT 1 00:00:00.110 --> 00:00:01.509 Quinlan Conf Room: Hello, good evening. 2 00:00:01.510 --> 00:00:04.170 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Today is Thursday, June 4th, 2027. 3 00:00:04.175 --> 00:00:05.895 Quinlan Conf Room: This is the regular meeting after. 4 00:00:05.900 --> 00:00:12.930 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Copatino Parks and Recreation Commission. This is a hybrid meeting, and this meeting will be recorded. 5 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:30.770 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, for members to the public who are listening through the Zoom calls, this particular application will notify you when the meeting is recorded, so please make sure that you press continue to stay on the meeting. Use the raise hand feature in the Zoom in case you would like to speak on an item. 6 00:00:30.770 --> 00:00:34.010 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And also, lower your hand once you are done with, 7 00:00:34.010 --> 00:00:39.860 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Please unmute when called to speak, and mute yourself when you're done speaking. 8 00:00:39.950 --> 00:00:55.560 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And if you're calling in by phone, please identify yourself by name before speaking on an item, and press star 9 on the phone to raise and lower your hand. Press star 6 if you are participating by phone to unmute. 9 00:00:55.820 --> 00:01:00.180 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And again, speakers are limited to 3 minutes, and the staff will track that. 10 00:01:01.110 --> 00:01:11.610 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): With that, so welcome to the June 4th, 2026 Coperno Park and Recreation Commission meeting. I now call the meeting to order 701. 11 00:01:13.120 --> 00:01:18.710 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Roll call, staff? Mr. Bono? Here. 12 00:01:19.030 --> 00:01:25.659 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Bannett? Here. Commissioner Kwame? Here. Vice Chair Spring? Here. Chair Kamariko? Here. 13 00:01:26.420 --> 00:01:46.020 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, Sam. And moving on to the first item of the business, and this is a ceremonial matters and presentation, but before we move on, there are some requests, for, since there are not many guests, as well as, there are other folks that are presenting here, I would like to… 14 00:01:46.020 --> 00:02:05.390 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I will do a formal motion, but I would like to move the subject number 2, which is a bark and brick department marketing and communications, to later in the agenda in the new business area, so that it gives a space for the first presentation, and then we'll be getting on to oral communication, given that a lot of 15 00:02:05.510 --> 00:02:09.850 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): community members that are here. So that's what I'm thinking of. 16 00:02:09.854 --> 00:02:14.534 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): of it, had a discussion with the staff, so I plan to make a motion. 17 00:02:15.184 --> 00:02:21.224 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I can make a motion, right, Stan? So, I make a motion to move the item number 2… 18 00:02:21.230 --> 00:02:25.799 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): which is the Park and Rec, Department of Marketing and Communication. 19 00:02:25.940 --> 00:02:26.350 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): bite. 20 00:02:26.355 --> 00:02:28.225 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Later in the agenda. 21 00:02:28.230 --> 00:02:34.490 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Especially after the new business, which is item number four. I second it. 22 00:02:36.950 --> 00:02:43.280 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And the staff are… Boarding on that, right Yes. Commissioner Bono? 23 00:02:43.740 --> 00:02:53.539 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Aye. Commissioner Sanick? Yes. Commissioner Swamy? Yes. Vice Chair Truken? Yes. Chair Kamarcom? Yes. Motion carries unanimously. Thank you. 24 00:02:53.920 --> 00:02:57.970 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Excellent. So with that, so let's move on to the first, 25 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:01.610 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): item in the ceremonial medicine presentations. 26 00:03:01.740 --> 00:03:07.150 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): grassroots college, and I would like, please present? Oh, please. 27 00:03:07.390 --> 00:03:16.340 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. Stage is yours, the pudding is yours. When we move up to the table and get situated, we will go ahead and plug in and get things situated. 28 00:03:16.347 --> 00:03:25.757 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): While we're plugging in, if you guys would like to introduce yourself, but we have Alex and Stephanie here, with Prince Ecology. 29 00:03:25.887 --> 00:03:28.147 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, they have our presence. 30 00:03:30.987 --> 00:03:33.326 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, thank you for having us. 31 00:03:33.497 --> 00:03:37.597 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Like I said, I'm Alex Von Feldt. I'm one of the co-executive directors at Grassroots. 32 00:03:37.600 --> 00:03:51.470 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): psychology, and, I've been leading the organization since we were founded, and even before that, when we were part of a different organization. So I've been, I've been around since we've been started working with, Cupertino in 2012. 33 00:03:52.460 --> 00:03:59.190 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I'm Stephanie, I'm the project manager for our reservation group at the Poly Ranch Nature Preserve. 34 00:03:59.190 --> 00:04:03.479 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Has every… everyone been there, or has anyone been there before? 35 00:04:03.650 --> 00:04:05.659 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, great, okay. 36 00:04:05.900 --> 00:04:08.939 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Many of you been there? Yes. Oh, perfect. 37 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:13.730 Quinlan Conf Room: Why do I need to give you a screen? 38 00:04:13.730 --> 00:04:21.640 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): still give you a description. I will, I will, yeah. Okay, well, like I said, I'm the project manager. 39 00:04:21.640 --> 00:04:39.329 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): for this restoration site at McClellan Ranch, and, we're from Grassroots Ecology, so if you're not familiar with Grassroots, we're an environmental restoration nonprofit with different sites around the South Bay, and our mission is to engage and educate the public to restore local ecosystems. 40 00:04:39.330 --> 00:04:48.970 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): The main way we do that is by planting California native plants, and increasing biodiversity and all the ecosystem benefits that come with it. 41 00:04:49.130 --> 00:05:01.400 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And we make a point to cultivate good relationships with the community around each site, and that's how we've built a strong volunteer base to… that are… that's really at the heart of all the work that we do. 42 00:05:01.460 --> 00:05:18.299 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And we also grow all of the plants that we use for our restoration in our own native plant nursery, and we source the seed for, the plants at each project from their respective watersheds to, to preserve local plant population adaptations. 43 00:05:18.460 --> 00:05:32.560 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): You can go to the next one. So, here's where McClellan Ranch is. It's kind of off of Foothill Boulevard, below Linda Vista Park, and it's down the street from Monta Vista High School, so most of you know it. 44 00:05:32.570 --> 00:05:47.389 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And here's an aerial shot of the main meadow. So the preserve overall is 18 acres, and we're mainly stewarding the 7-acre meadow that you see here, and Stevens Creek runs around the edge of the preserve. 45 00:05:47.430 --> 00:05:54.309 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So we're hoping that one day this whole meadow will be covered with California native plant habitat. 46 00:05:55.160 --> 00:06:08.629 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And this is a ground-level view of the front of the meadow from the parking lot, and then if you go to the next slide, here on the nature trail, you'll walk along Stevens Creek and enjoy this nice riparian habitat that we have. 47 00:06:09.190 --> 00:06:11.450 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Next one, 48 00:06:11.710 --> 00:06:27.370 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Before the city took over the property in the 1970s, it had been used for different agricultural purposes, and most recently, as a forest ranch. So, it was a pretty degraded site, the soil was very compacted, not a lot of plants could grow there other than leaves. 49 00:06:27.620 --> 00:06:43.619 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): There were some mature trees, like coast live oaks and western sycamores, that are still there, probably well over 100 years old. But in the main meadow, it was just a seed weave, and a lot of native perennials could go through, those, those dense weeds. 50 00:06:43.840 --> 00:06:51.959 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So today I want to show you how we went from this meadow filled with thistles and weeds to a healthier, more biodiverse habitat. 51 00:06:52.840 --> 00:07:07.140 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So at the start, the meadow was completely composed of non-native grasses, Italian thistle, and some short pod mustard. And that's still what you'd see if you were looking outside of our restoration plots. And then in the next picture. 52 00:07:07.140 --> 00:07:24.909 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do you see those tiny white flags kind of in the back of the manager? Those are marking thousands of bunch grasses and native perennials that we started putting in the next year, and then a few years later, you can see how the plants are starting to fill in, and getting a little bit taller. 53 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:33.619 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, if you go to the next photo, so here's the zoomed-in photo of the pre-planting site, and then, 54 00:07:34.170 --> 00:07:46.700 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): To now, this is that same perspective, and you can see it's… there's a variety of colors and flowers and textures, and there's just a lot of visual diversity that's so different than what it was before. 55 00:07:48.190 --> 00:08:06.270 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Our work at McClellan is active restoration, which means we are consistently monitoring and caring for the preserve as a whole. So at the start of every month, we do a walkthrough of the whole meadow and of the nature trail to see what activities, restoration tasks we need to prioritize every week. 56 00:08:06.610 --> 00:08:19.639 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And that shows… it's just… it's a lot more than just planting, setting, and forgetting. We're there consistently to see what's going on and what things need, and it's different from 57 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:31.259 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): maybe, like, a mitigation site or a large agency that might have to cover a lot of different restoration sites, and maybe doesn't have the staff or the time to monitor everyone very closely, whereas what we're doing is 58 00:08:31.400 --> 00:08:40.740 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): closely following this one site to maximize the habitat health and the quality of what's there. We're able to do that because we're continuously involved. 59 00:08:41.820 --> 00:08:56.520 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): A big component of our work is invasive species management. So, the weeds that we're dealing with McClellan are weeds that are also widespread in the area around here, and seeds can remain in the soil and stay viable for years after they've been dropped. 60 00:08:56.520 --> 00:09:13.849 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, this is a picture of, like, a giant patch of milk thistle, and for scale, my coworker there, Jeremy, he's 6 feet tall. It's such a dramatic picture of what this place could look like and did look like, without some active stewardship. 61 00:09:15.420 --> 00:09:31.849 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Invasive plants are defined as plants that are not native to a region, and they've been studied enough to show that they're having a net negative impact on the ecosystem. So, they have a lot of characteristics in common, usually. They tend to sprout really quickly. 62 00:09:31.850 --> 00:09:45.819 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): They form really dense monocultures of dense stands, and they produce many seeds, so it compounds the problem very quickly. So this is a close-up of milk thistle, that purple flower there, and you can see it turns into a ball of fluff. 63 00:09:45.820 --> 00:09:54.149 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And all of those little seeds, it's kind of like dandelion, where it just gets carried by the wind. And a patch like what you saw behind Jeremy there, that could form within a year. 64 00:09:56.060 --> 00:10:01.780 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We actively manage for dozens of invasive species, and these are kind of, like, the highest priority ones. 65 00:10:01.820 --> 00:10:16.810 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And our strategies for each vary depending on the life history and the ecology of each one, so we factor in, like, where it grows, how it grows, and we prioritize what we're doing with them based on how much impact we can have and the time of year. 66 00:10:17.490 --> 00:10:33.090 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): The realistic goal… oops, sorry, the realistic goal for invasive species is not to completely eliminate it, but to create enough space where native plant populations can come back and establish sustainable patches of their own. 67 00:10:33.180 --> 00:10:46.019 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We don't use herbicide, so it's all manual removal, and it's pretty straightforward for plants that form one taproot, kind of like a carrot, so things like… like thistle, mustard, poison hemlock. 68 00:10:46.350 --> 00:11:04.059 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): you have to pull it out somehow, and that can be really challenging, depending on how big it is, but it is pretty simple. For a lot of the creek weeds, like what you see on the left there, so it's my coworker pulling out, like, one long strand of probably Vinca. A lot of things, like. 69 00:11:04.060 --> 00:11:21.440 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Zinca, Cape Ivy, they're forming, rooting stems, like, all around, and so you have to pull up as much as you can, but because it's a dense network, you're never gonna get it all. So the goal is really to clear as much as we can within, the 70 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.830 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): A given time frame, because we don't want to disturb nesting birds. 71 00:11:24.830 --> 00:11:42.499 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, we'll usually have to revisit a particular patch within, I don't know, 2 to 3 years to start pulling it again as it's trying to fill back in. But hopefully in that time, we've created enough space for native plants to come back and establish healthy populations. 72 00:11:42.500 --> 00:11:47.800 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then for grasses, we have… we do have an electric weed whip, so that's our one assist. 73 00:11:47.800 --> 00:12:04.319 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's otherwise very… all manual, and again, we're trying to time it carefully, so we're mowing grasses before the seeds have matured, and we're sort of trying to, like, spot reduce the number of invasive seeds that are closest to our plants. 74 00:12:05.830 --> 00:12:14.130 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): A lot of managing vegetation is also very helpful for fire mitigation. So, when you have 75 00:12:14.130 --> 00:12:31.049 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): tall stands of dead, dry annual grasses, or dead, woody material, that can be kind of flammable. And sometimes we'll invite staff to help us do bigger projects, and this is actually where we needed to get the San Jose Conservation Corps involved, because 76 00:12:31.050 --> 00:12:48.589 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): they have power tools. So they helped us clear this really dense stand of Ketoneaster, which is a tall, woody species that gets right to the perfect height to start a crown fire, if that were ever to happen. It's the worst kind of fire to have. So now that it's all cleared, they chipped it, we've told them which ones to get. 77 00:12:48.590 --> 00:12:51.079 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's replanted with native plants. 78 00:12:52.380 --> 00:13:01.579 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And even we're also managing for some of our native plants that might pose fire risk. So, coyote brush is a species that we love for its habitat benefits. 79 00:13:01.580 --> 00:13:14.419 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): But it can get so large and sprawly that it can take over a site, and it can accumulate a lot of dead woody material. So again, we had the Conservation Corps come in, and we marked specific plants that we wanted them to thin and chip. 80 00:13:14.430 --> 00:13:18.869 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then we created more space for… for more biodiversity. 81 00:13:20.520 --> 00:13:31.990 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): The next big component of what we do is revegetation with native plants. So this is where we get to think as ecologists about where we want to expand our plantings in the meadow and what species we want to put there. 82 00:13:32.500 --> 00:13:40.529 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We can go to the next one. So this is a brand new plot that we mulched this last spring, and we're preparing it for planting this winter. 83 00:13:40.770 --> 00:13:53.580 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So every year, we either… let me go to the next one. We either start a new plot, or we add plants to an existing plot, and the goal is that over time, all of these plots will merge together and create contiguous wildlife habitat. 84 00:13:53.850 --> 00:14:13.359 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We concentrate our planting in the rainy season, so that way, there's a lot of natural rainfall to help roots get established, and we're basically following nature's cues, so by the time they get to the warm season, they're… they're happy and healthy, and we're not doing a lot of additional watering past that first summer. 85 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:30.749 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And one of the most exciting things has been watching wildlife respond to all of the native habitat we created. So, one of our rangers, Austin, took this amazing picture of a blackened hummingbird. It's sipping nectar from a sticky monkey flower. And this is a bird that, 86 00:14:30.820 --> 00:14:46.090 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Santa Clara Valley Bird Alliance, our neighbors at McClellan, they told me they've never seen it attempt to nest along the Stevens Creek Trail until a couple of years ago. So I think the quality habitat that we're building is having real results for these animals. 87 00:14:47.680 --> 00:15:06.979 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And that's kind of the… the beauty of native plants. They've co-evolved with the wildlife here, so they provide higher quality resources than any… than other plants could, so they're not really interchangeable with just anything you can pick up, from Summer Winds Nursery. And… 88 00:15:07.230 --> 00:15:25.060 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): What we're doing, especially for insects, which are the base of the food chain, a lot of them aren't very specific about what plants they're foraging on, so the wider diversity of plants you have, the more insects you can support, and then you're supporting everything else that depends on them for food. 89 00:15:27.350 --> 00:15:33.569 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, actually, I wanted to say one more thing about the milkweed in that picture. So… 90 00:15:33.740 --> 00:15:48.790 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Some of the insects that we're seeing return, also, they depend on one particular plant. Otherwise, if you don't… so, example, for milkweed, if you don't have milkweed, you don't get monarch butterflies. So, some of those relationships, those co-evald 91 00:15:48.790 --> 00:15:55.239 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): plant-animal relationships are obligate, which means that they're essential to each other. And we're seeing. 92 00:15:55.245 --> 00:15:58.245 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): in the meadow now. A lot of them, yeah. 93 00:15:59.860 --> 00:16:10.350 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We're also deliberate about selecting plants that flower in different seasons to maximize the amount of time that we're providing resources, so everything here flowers. 94 00:16:10.670 --> 00:16:15.970 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And if you come any time of the year, you'll see something blooming and something foraging on it. 95 00:16:17.390 --> 00:16:29.259 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And what we do in the meadow is also impacting the health of our aquatic ecosystem. So, a lot of insects, start their lives in the water, in the Stevens Creek, and then forage as adults. 96 00:16:29.260 --> 00:16:38.549 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): In the meadow. So, like this 8-spotted skimmer dragonfly here, the fact that we're seeing, a higher predatory insect like this. 97 00:16:38.680 --> 00:16:45.639 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Indicates that we've got pretty good, water quality, and then they're finding good foraging grounds in the meadow. 98 00:16:47.960 --> 00:17:03.880 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Our plants also provide some natural filtering and protection for Stevens Creek. So, this is a plot at the edge of the meadow between the community garden and Stevens Creek, and this… before we planted this a few years ago, it was full of poison hemlock, and 99 00:17:03.880 --> 00:17:09.480 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Some questionable soil that was dumped there when they remodeled the community garden. 100 00:17:09.560 --> 00:17:25.479 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And we weren't sure what it could have been contaminated with, we were a little… and the 4-H kids were worried about the poisoned hemlock getting into their ranch. So we cleared it, we sheet mulched over it, and then now, you can go to the next slide. 101 00:17:25.810 --> 00:17:44.699 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): this is what it looks like. And, all of these plants have different root systems, they're growing to different levels in the ground, so, they're able to take up any potential pollutants and any… and kind of neutralize things in the ground that might get to the creek otherwise. So that's called phytoremediation. 102 00:17:44.950 --> 00:17:53.539 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Just real quick, when we say pollutants, we're talking about some of the runoff from the 4H, so it's like natural animal manure, but you're cleaning that before it gets to the creek. 103 00:17:54.810 --> 00:17:56.809 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm sorry, how much time do I have left? 104 00:17:56.920 --> 00:17:58.309 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I wasn't checking this. 105 00:17:58.315 --> 00:18:02.355 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Another couple minutes. Okay, alright. There's too much to cover. 106 00:18:02.355 --> 00:18:02.955 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you so much. 107 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.090 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): But this is… 108 00:18:05.095 --> 00:18:15.594 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): This is our team, it's a team of four, me, my coworker Maya, and then two college interns. And as amazing as our team is, we could not do this alone, so… 109 00:18:15.605 --> 00:18:25.604 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): like I mentioned, volunteers are at the heart of our organization, and you can go to the next slide. They help with every part of the restoration process, from planting to pruning. 110 00:18:25.645 --> 00:18:27.645 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Keep going. 111 00:18:27.825 --> 00:18:40.695 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And so since 2012, we've done 950 volunteer events. We've planted thousands of native plants. I think this equated to about one volunteer event per week for the last 14 years. 112 00:18:40.825 --> 00:18:43.054 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): You can go to the next one. 113 00:18:43.055 --> 00:19:01.824 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it takes many hands to plant as many plants as we have, and keep going. We can go a little faster, sorry. I'm talking too long, but, so the sheet mulching process alone, we need a lot of people collecting cardboard, pulling off the plastic stickers, and then to the next one, you can 114 00:19:01.825 --> 00:19:11.694 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): See, like, you have to lay it out like a puzzle, cover it with mulch. That's not something that four people can do in any reasonable timescale. So, we really do depend on the community. 115 00:19:12.205 --> 00:19:27.215 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And we've also, in addition to doing public volunteer events once a month, we've created our own in-house programs to help support the work we do. So we have our high school youth stewards program twice a year. It's where, kids from this district 116 00:19:27.215 --> 00:19:35.454 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Come for 8 weeks at a time in the spring, and then in the summer, and they help us with our restoration tasks, and we do naturalist education. 117 00:19:35.515 --> 00:19:36.805 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And keep going. 118 00:19:36.955 --> 00:19:42.245 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have our own college internship program, where they get a California Naturalist certification. 119 00:19:42.495 --> 00:19:47.545 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have seniors volunteer days that happen seasonally. 120 00:19:47.705 --> 00:19:48.814 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We're not gonna do it. 121 00:19:49.505 --> 00:20:06.925 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then we built a lot of ongoing relationships with local service organizations and schools like Helios, Monta Vista, Menlo School, they're a little bit further out, but they love having that. And De Anza College, too. 122 00:20:07.785 --> 00:20:16.014 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's not just the volunteers that have really noticed and appreciated all of the hard work that they've done. 123 00:20:16.165 --> 00:20:31.575 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): because it's such a public preserve and a popular walking spot, I've been hearing… I've been getting a lot of good feedback lately, lately in particular, because of this garden, from the public. So, I think we're creating something really special here, and… 124 00:20:31.575 --> 00:20:47.054 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's been so rewarding to become a part of the community. And you can go to the last one. And this is the best time to see it, because it's peak spring bloom, so if any of you ever want to come visit, and I can give you a more in-depth tour, I'd be happy to. 125 00:20:47.700 --> 00:20:49.749 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, but they're just on it, really. 126 00:20:49.750 --> 00:20:52.559 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): like the phone number. Yeah, sure. 127 00:20:53.200 --> 00:21:06.500 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't feel like I properly introduced the group, so I… sorry, we were dealing with a little technology issue there, but thank you so much. Your passion is just… comes through. It's been a pleasure communicating with you guys over the last couple months, preparing for this. 128 00:21:06.630 --> 00:21:24.690 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I just wanted to set the stage a little bit for why, Grassroots Ecology is here tonight. So, as you know, your work plan included many items, and one of them was to have our partner agencies come and present an annual report. So, 129 00:21:25.290 --> 00:21:42.309 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Luck of the draw. Grassroots Ecology is the first one to come to present this calendar year to the group on just the partnership that they have with the city, and what the positive, value they're bringing to the community, in particular at McClellan and along the watershed. 130 00:21:42.430 --> 00:21:56.650 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): There really is no commission action, although we'll take questions and that sort of thing, but it is truly just a report out, and an opportunity for you to become more aware of the different partners that we have and the great work that they're doing, so… 131 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:02.770 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Hopefully that's a little bit better setting of the stage. Sorry, now that we're getting… That's fine, so… 132 00:22:02.775 --> 00:22:03.715 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, that's okay. 133 00:22:03.715 --> 00:22:14.015 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then I feel that we'll have some clarification questions and comments, so if you could wait on it, so… Yeah, yeah. I already see four or five… no, that's only one. 134 00:22:14.015 --> 00:22:15.575 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, dear. 135 00:22:15.575 --> 00:22:34.314 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So that's what it is. Thank you. So, Commissioner, there's a clarifying, questions section, and then public comment, and then we'll come for the comments. So, any questions? Yeah. Commissioner Ball? Thank you for your presentation, first and foremost. While I will only speak for myself, and not nobody else, but I know how to. 136 00:22:34.315 --> 00:22:40.184 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): plant tomatoes, but that's all I can do. I forget… I always forget to word them. So, 137 00:22:40.205 --> 00:22:55.685 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): It sounds to me, in my clarifying question, it sounds to me, and again, maybe educate me, because a lot of people who are listening, wants to know, at the end of the day, if you took a quiz and a poll for every resident, do you know the difference between native and non-native? It's hard. 138 00:22:55.685 --> 00:23:02.694 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): to identify, because I'm not known, and my question would be… is a question goes after, it's a clarifying question? No, clarifying questions. 139 00:23:02.695 --> 00:23:04.715 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. Only comments later. Okay. 140 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:09.169 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, that is, when you mention, also, when 141 00:23:09.570 --> 00:23:19.909 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): there was some soil that were dumped. Does that happen often? Is that an issue to consider? Or… because, obviously, it takes a lot of energy. 142 00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:23.730 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Time, effort, maybe money, in order to… 143 00:23:23.760 --> 00:23:44.510 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): sure that the soil at the end is not contaminated, so it creates more questions than anything else when I hear these kind of comments. So I'd like to find out if we can clarify that, so that we can leave them to find out if there is nothing that we can take action, especially after maybe the council, I don't know. And… 144 00:23:44.510 --> 00:23:49.410 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): while you respond to that, I'm going to look at my other clarifies. Sure, yeah. 145 00:23:49.410 --> 00:24:04.320 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, when they remodeled or rebuilt the community garden that was originally there from the 1970s, I think there were some materials and some of the old soil and the existing beds that got dumped to the side of 146 00:24:04.410 --> 00:24:13.580 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): of where the new garden is now, so it's kind of the very edge of the meadow. And I… I don't know what was in it. I'm not… I don't want to… 147 00:24:13.580 --> 00:24:27.249 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): say that for sure, you know, that's contaminated soil. But, you know, it had been fertilized and farmed for a really long time, so whatever is in there is different from, kind of, the existing native soil that we would be working with. 148 00:24:27.250 --> 00:24:41.880 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And so, when I… when I'm talking about phytoremediation, just kind of what… whatever you might not know is in that soil is going to be taken up at the root system of plants, and that's kind of the amazing thing about plants, is they can do so much 149 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:53.190 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): to kind of rehabilitate soil just by growing. So that's what I'm thinking, but I don't… I don't think there's, like, a concern about toxicity. Yeah. 150 00:24:53.290 --> 00:24:54.000 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Perfect. 151 00:24:54.980 --> 00:24:58.980 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. We have had so many discussions on native. 152 00:24:58.985 --> 00:25:03.804 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): and non-native plants within the… and I'm so glad that you guys are actually. 153 00:25:04.280 --> 00:25:20.220 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): actively on this. It seems like a rather large piece of land for four of you. Do you have enough volunteers? Do you need more volunteers? Where is the gap? And resources, per se? Because this is amazing work. Thank you. 154 00:25:20.780 --> 00:25:24.999 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have lots of volunteers. Do we need more? 155 00:25:25.005 --> 00:25:42.305 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I would say that, you know, for the most part, our… all of our volunteer events get sold out, meaning that they get filled up at capacity, and we even have wait lists. So, the most… most of the feedback we get from people are, why can't you do more events? And of course, the answer is because it takes… 156 00:25:42.305 --> 00:25:52.025 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): staff to make sure that the volunteers are organized safely, and that they're doing the right things, pulling right plants and not, so that's what limits us a bit, but… 157 00:25:52.025 --> 00:26:00.024 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, it is amazing how much, community engagement is at the site. I mean, in addition to, like, what the city. 158 00:26:00.025 --> 00:26:15.244 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): gives for us to do this work. We actually… About 100… a little over $100,000 a year, and then we also, Grassroots ecology, get some additional grant funding to augment what we're doing, so that we can plant more plants and do, like, you know… 159 00:26:15.245 --> 00:26:18.264 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): They're doing this. 160 00:26:18.265 --> 00:26:32.925 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): of different sources. Over the year, Valley Water has been a good funder of, different restoration throughout there. Part of it, like we said, to manage the runoff from the 4H before it gets to the creek, the pollinator garden that Stephanie showed at the end. 161 00:26:33.005 --> 00:26:51.264 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then there's also, foundations, and then grassroots College raises individual, sorry, money from individual donors to augment all of our educational programs, because that's what a lot of our donors and family foundations are really interested in, especially, like, the program that Stephanie mentioned. 162 00:26:51.265 --> 00:26:55.004 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): well-resourced financially, and what we always use more. 163 00:26:55.005 --> 00:27:12.295 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): We're a non-profit! And also, we could always do more, because we have… what's wonderful is we have a nice partnership with AmeriCorps, and we have so many of them coming through, and then after the end of their term, they'd like to stay on, so I know. There's actually… there's a lot… there's more we can do, I'll just say that. 164 00:27:12.295 --> 00:27:31.264 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): I just typed a question. Can I? I just typed a question on invasive insects, and then I saw your presentation, said, oh, there's invasive… we have invasive insects, so we have enough of the local one. Good, good training. But seriously, are you not worried about invasive insects coming in? 165 00:27:31.755 --> 00:27:34.634 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): We don't spend a lot. 166 00:27:34.635 --> 00:27:35.505 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): time… 167 00:27:35.510 --> 00:27:48.910 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's like, just those… the mussels, like, the mussels in the creek, or what are those ones called that we… they want us to look at for our valley water, but yeah. Oh, I don't… Yeah, the insects so much, they're not… They don't have such an issue for you. 168 00:27:48.915 --> 00:27:55.225 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): focusing on the plants, and I mean, Yeah, I, I think. 169 00:27:55.225 --> 00:27:58.964 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): you get diseased plants? Like, do your plants get diseases often? 170 00:27:58.965 --> 00:28:02.134 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): From other insects? Not that I've realized. 171 00:28:02.140 --> 00:28:06.449 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Squirrels love to eat them. Yeah. Go first. 172 00:28:06.455 --> 00:28:13.464 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): These are things like invasive shot hole borer that we're kind of, like, keeping an eye out for. Valley Water has given us, 173 00:28:13.585 --> 00:28:26.715 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): a little bit of information about that, but really, we're focused at the plant level and kind of what we're supporting. I haven't seen anything that's concerned me coming in with them. Yeah, thank you, yeah. 174 00:28:26.715 --> 00:28:28.585 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, Commissioner Stanley. Yes, I think I just. 175 00:28:28.590 --> 00:28:33.869 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I just want to follow on, because you got to where my question was, what's your business model? 176 00:28:33.870 --> 00:28:42.450 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): And is grassroots psychology just here at McClellan Ranch, or you're much bigger and you're doing other things? We're not that much bigger, but we. 177 00:28:42.455 --> 00:29:00.934 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): We do have about 20 restoration sites throughout southern San Mateo and northern Santa Clara counties, but it's all public land and usually parks and open spaces, and so the model is the same, where we're leveraging the energy of the community to help us achieve a lot of these habitat goals, and also, you know. 178 00:29:00.935 --> 00:29:14.424 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): people get… come out, like, a lot of people come because they need to get volunteer hours, you know, let's say, for something, and then they come back because they feel a connection with the land, a connection with community, they, you know, enjoy themselves and things like that. So even… 179 00:29:14.425 --> 00:29:31.444 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Like, not only does the city get, the benefit of some of this other funding that I was talking about, but all of that volunteer labor. I think the last time I did a presentation, it came out to, like, you know, the city gets about 2X of what the investment is because of all these other things in play. Okay, great, thank you. 180 00:29:31.445 --> 00:29:36.454 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I had a feeling that, you know, this was just a little piece that you're showing us here. 181 00:29:36.455 --> 00:29:41.715 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): major one, especially. Especially, you know, it's, the meadow restoration has been really successful. 182 00:29:41.715 --> 00:29:48.074 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I walk there every day, and I see you guys. Oh, great! Yeah, Koshika. 183 00:29:48.377 --> 00:30:04.206 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm not sure if I heard it well. Did you say grassroots ecology is a non-profit or for-profit? Oh, non-profit. Non-profit, yes. Okay. Yes, a 501c3 for a non-profit. Awesome. Great job, thank you so much. 184 00:30:04.215 --> 00:30:06.544 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Take care. If not, I have one for her. 185 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:08.029 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so we can… 186 00:30:09.055 --> 00:30:10.214 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): You order pickled. 187 00:30:10.215 --> 00:30:14.935 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because first was clarifying questions. When do we start questions? That's fine. 188 00:30:14.940 --> 00:30:18.470 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, dear, do you get one? I have two questions. 189 00:30:18.475 --> 00:30:34.944 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, we can… Because it's, I want to learn myself. Yeah. I'm listening to all the native, non-native, and I see the ongoing battle. For me, I'm asking you, and I know it sounds dumb, but again, I don't take care of plants in my life. Someone else does for me. 190 00:30:34.965 --> 00:30:49.724 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Are we… are we going against nature? Because, like I said, Simta, there's an ongoing effort all the time, and I understand that we want to keep the native because we want to protect… blah, blah, blah, blah, but are we going against nature, in a way? 191 00:30:50.350 --> 00:30:52.870 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, like, kind of fighting the inevitable? Yes. 192 00:30:53.170 --> 00:31:12.760 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't think so, because I think the point of active restoration is to kind of reverse some of the historic damage that has been done, and kind of, you know, people bringing plants from other continents and over such huge distances. That's a pretty recent thing, and it has changed the course 193 00:31:12.760 --> 00:31:22.309 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): of our environmental outlook, right? But, but now that's what we have to work with. So I think going forward, 194 00:31:22.310 --> 00:31:35.920 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): this is… this is how we can… we can keep shifting things a little bit, rather than losing our… our ecosystem benefits forever, because it definitely is worth keeping. And again, it's… 195 00:31:36.210 --> 00:31:43.519 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We're at a point in time where we're really never going to be rid of a plant if it is at the status of being invasive. 196 00:31:43.520 --> 00:32:03.569 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): But you can clear enough of it away to make space for our native plant populations to come back and compete well. So that's really… it's like getting them to the point where they're sort of coexisting and competing, and we're not losing something that is really critical to thousands of years of essential relationships that have been built. 197 00:32:03.575 --> 00:32:14.174 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): In your response, you almost responded to my second question, wondering if the non-native plants were planted by residents, or brought in by 198 00:32:14.175 --> 00:32:26.075 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): resident, which questions also, we obviously are renting to resident area where they can put vegetables and this and that. Does that come… that stems from there as well? It's from all… 199 00:32:26.820 --> 00:32:46.139 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): ways. Some things were brought in from the nursery trade, and people didn't realize that it could escape their garden, and then, like, Vinca, as an example, periwinkle, was a really popular landscaping plant in the 70s and the 80s, and you still see it planted on medians a lot, but it's now basically infested every single waterway in the county. 200 00:32:46.170 --> 00:33:10.109 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And even, I think, maybe the whole state. Because I remember reading reports from Northern California. So, a lot of things, yes, were ornamental plants that people didn't realize, you know, could go out with their compost, or maybe birds pick up seeds and then drop them somewhere. Some things came in from, like, Spanish settlement times, or a lot of our invasive grasses, like the Golden Hills of California. 201 00:33:10.110 --> 00:33:14.280 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): They weren't originally like that, because all of these annual grasses 202 00:33:14.280 --> 00:33:33.260 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): came over from Europe because they were there to feed livestock. All our… most of our California grasses are bunch grasses, and they're perennials, so they would stay pretty green throughout the year. So that's, like, more of a… like, a historic byproduct. So they're all different ways. And sometimes people confuse plants, like, there was even a disastrous case 203 00:33:33.630 --> 00:33:51.889 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): with salt marsh restoration, where, they… they were bringing in a plant that they thought was a native plant, but when it was that small, it looked like an invasive relative of that plant, and then, like, the invasive species got introduced that way. So, there are a lot of different ways that 204 00:33:51.970 --> 00:33:54.550 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): invasive species can come, yeah. 205 00:33:54.555 --> 00:33:55.315 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): The last. 206 00:33:55.315 --> 00:33:59.055 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Last but not least, it's not a question… Yeah, I think you've made this issue. 207 00:33:59.055 --> 00:33:59.815 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you for keeping. 208 00:33:59.815 --> 00:34:02.075 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): In the, butterfly chain. Maybe one more question. 209 00:34:02.075 --> 00:34:06.574 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's already 40 minutes on this item, so let's… 34. Yeah, go ahead. 210 00:34:06.575 --> 00:34:10.335 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I don't have a question, just to respond to the machine. 211 00:34:10.335 --> 00:34:15.885 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, no, no response. We'll come back to the comment section. I do have a question. 212 00:34:15.885 --> 00:34:18.565 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's a very important one. 213 00:34:18.695 --> 00:34:25.314 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't know if this should be directed to the city staff for here. I'll just say it, you can tell me where it should be. Is it a question? 214 00:34:25.315 --> 00:34:26.935 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Comments, and we can do it. 215 00:34:26.935 --> 00:34:50.655 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's not a comment, this is a question. So, we, we have a lot of parks within Cupertino, and we also have the walkway, on Sten, the Lawrence Mitty walkway that we have. So there are plants over there, some of them are… since you guys have so much resources and overflowing with volunteers, you know, turning away volunteers, that would be such a bad idea to just take a quick 216 00:34:50.655 --> 00:34:58.025 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): look around and say, and give your assessment, since you're passionate about this, I pee very strongly about this. 217 00:34:58.025 --> 00:35:05.025 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because, for example, to ask the question, again, Eucalyptus was introduced, it's completely destroyed. 218 00:35:05.025 --> 00:35:21.554 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): All the other plants. So, ivy is certainly one of them, and I do see quite a bit of it on the Lawrence Metis, trail. So, if that's something to consider, the city staff, I don't know where that fits, but this is wonderful. What you guys have used is perfect. Yeah. 219 00:35:21.555 --> 00:35:26.075 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so thank you, and then… That's it. Yeah, so… 220 00:35:26.075 --> 00:35:38.815 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): The last thing is, can you also do a program in your own McLaren so you educate people, about their own gardens? What's native and what's non-native, and what they should potentially be developing? We do have science. 221 00:35:38.815 --> 00:35:42.165 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): for some of our native plants, like, along the… And you've been doing those presentations. 222 00:35:42.170 --> 00:35:47.229 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): presentations at the library. Yeah, that's true. Okay, thank you. 223 00:35:47.235 --> 00:35:48.235 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Appreciate it. 224 00:35:48.345 --> 00:35:57.834 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): There's no more clarifying questions, I think we need to open this for public comments as well, in case if anybody raised their hands on the Zoom, or… 225 00:35:58.735 --> 00:36:00.275 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): For this particular item. 226 00:36:00.745 --> 00:36:17.105 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have no speakers soon. Thank you, that means I'll close the public comment now. It's for the comments, public comments over, now it's for the commissioners. If you have any comments on this particular one? Earlier, you asked for clarification questions, now it's time for making any comments. 227 00:36:18.155 --> 00:36:21.814 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Just a follow-up. 228 00:36:21.815 --> 00:36:25.284 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I walk there every day with my dog, you know, every day. 229 00:36:25.365 --> 00:36:39.064 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): on the dog path. But, you know, I see you in there with the volunteers, you know, on a particular day or morning with groups, either Rotary, or schools, or the AmeriCorps, and I hope 230 00:36:39.065 --> 00:36:49.345 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): that you can continue to get AmeriCorps, because I know that program is quite a lot. And, so I just want to thank you for everything you do, and how you engage 231 00:36:49.365 --> 00:36:52.425 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): The community, and are helping us 232 00:36:52.535 --> 00:36:55.094 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I feel very strongly about this thing. 233 00:36:55.100 --> 00:36:57.070 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Bonan? Yeah, I'll make a. 234 00:36:57.075 --> 00:37:06.815 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): moment to say, first of all, thank you for your presentation. I think that the word itself always scares people, because they, oh, I'm not… I don't care about, 235 00:37:06.945 --> 00:37:17.605 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Parks and Recreation or clients, I don't know anything, but I think education will always remain, maybe a social media post, what is native, what is non-native, maybe interact with people. 236 00:37:17.615 --> 00:37:29.395 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): educate them non-stop, like Commissioner mentioned. I think an ongoing education is needed, and hopefully you may want to consider that, because people would like to be in, 237 00:37:29.465 --> 00:37:37.244 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): part of the understanding on why we do things just sort of. But thank you for your presentation. Thank you. Commissioner Shaker. 238 00:37:37.555 --> 00:37:46.955 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I just would like to add a comment, because it was brought up. The, McDonald Ranch community assignments. 239 00:37:47.025 --> 00:37:54.904 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): There was a question, we were wondering if… whether people are planting wrong things. There are… I… I'm a owner of one of those plots. 240 00:37:54.905 --> 00:38:10.585 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): There are very strict rules about what we can plant and what we cannot plant, and also the city staff, Kayla, is always watching and catching. You know, even with the weed, you cannot let it grow, you know, so whether she makes sure that people 241 00:38:10.585 --> 00:38:12.925 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Take care of their own plants, and around. 242 00:38:13.775 --> 00:38:15.615 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Excellent. Thank you. 243 00:38:15.855 --> 00:38:18.845 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Any other comments from Commissioners? Good. 244 00:38:18.850 --> 00:38:26.310 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): No other comment. Thank you so much, Jeff and yeah, Alex. It's awesome. Fantastic. It's a pleasure. 245 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:35.289 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, we'll move to the next item in the business, but since we made the subject item number 2, 246 00:38:35.590 --> 00:38:40.639 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): later. So now, the next item on the agenda is approval of minutes. 247 00:38:40.990 --> 00:38:46.529 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Item number 3, subject May 7th, 2026, Park Transit Creation Permission. 248 00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:49.680 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And the action is to uproot them. 249 00:38:49.810 --> 00:38:50.810 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll make a. 250 00:38:50.815 --> 00:38:55.694 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Motion to approve the May 7 Parks and Recreation issue. 251 00:38:57.750 --> 00:38:58.670 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): and staff. 252 00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:03.380 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Bono? Aye. Commissioner Sandik? Yes. 253 00:39:03.470 --> 00:39:07.690 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Swamy? Yes. Vice Chair Trumkin? Those absent. 254 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:11.520 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so do you have saves? Okay. 255 00:39:11.520 --> 00:39:14.769 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): the minutes, I'm fine, no questions? You will be abstract. 256 00:39:14.775 --> 00:39:15.675 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean. 257 00:39:15.675 --> 00:39:18.085 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, Jared Marcos? 258 00:39:18.090 --> 00:39:23.910 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, yes. The motion carries. The vice chair should begin abstaining. 259 00:39:23.915 --> 00:39:31.314 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): one, even… is this open for public comments, too? Because after any move on, now the new procedure. 260 00:39:32.185 --> 00:39:34.945 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let's just a public comment for this item. 261 00:39:35.895 --> 00:39:39.825 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): We can do public comment for this item. It's not traditional, but we can do. 262 00:39:39.830 --> 00:39:40.400 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): it. 263 00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:45.479 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, because it was after the new thing, it was described as, is there any public comments on each other? 264 00:39:46.100 --> 00:39:49.749 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is there any public comments, and any advance rights on that? 265 00:39:49.940 --> 00:39:50.930 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, sweet. 266 00:39:50.935 --> 00:39:52.645 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have no speakers, Sarah. 267 00:39:52.810 --> 00:39:57.250 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Awesome. If that's the case, let's close the public comment on this, too. 268 00:39:57.500 --> 00:40:03.209 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): This should have been done before the motion, but I made a mistake, so it's all done good. Thank you. 269 00:40:03.380 --> 00:40:06.239 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is there any postponements, Stan? 270 00:40:06.540 --> 00:40:09.010 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have no postponements today. 271 00:40:09.150 --> 00:40:10.120 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Excellent. 272 00:40:10.610 --> 00:40:21.949 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, now let's go to the oral communications. This portion of the meeting is reserved for persons wishing to address the Commission on any other 273 00:40:22.260 --> 00:40:27.010 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): any matter within the jurisdiction of the Commissioner not on the agenda item. 274 00:40:27.160 --> 00:40:37.700 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And speakers are limited to 3 minutes. In most cases, state law will prohibit the Commission from making any decisions with respect to a matter not on the agenda. 275 00:40:37.860 --> 00:40:48.419 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): The Commissioner of Staff may briefly respond to the statements made or questions posed, and the Commission may request staff to report back at a subsequent meeting. 276 00:40:49.150 --> 00:41:01.969 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): As a reminder, comments can also be emailed to parkandrecreationcommission at puppetino.gov. If any member of the public would like to make comments, please fill out… I think you already fill it out here, I see it. 277 00:41:01.970 --> 00:41:10.819 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Staff, let's go through it. I don't ask whether we have it. I see a lot of blue cuts on the table, and the people in the room, so let's listen in. 278 00:41:10.825 --> 00:41:23.535 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have two speakers in person and one speaker remotely. Our first speaker is Dina Horith, followed by Marshall, followed by Minasu. Welcome, Dina. Yes, please. 279 00:41:33.195 --> 00:41:34.515 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Good evening. 280 00:41:34.805 --> 00:41:39.104 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): My name is Vina Horath, and I'm a Cooper. 281 00:41:39.110 --> 00:41:40.750 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Latino president. 282 00:41:41.650 --> 00:41:53.449 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I know you're making decisions that will affect Pickleball at Memorial Park, so I'd like to share my story and explain why this community is so important to me. 283 00:41:54.050 --> 00:41:56.769 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm a self-proclaimed cult. 284 00:41:56.990 --> 00:42:07.879 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I was never athletic. Riding a bike was a major accomplishment, and going to the gym felt, like, as enjoyable as having a tooth pulled. 285 00:42:08.050 --> 00:42:16.620 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Then I discovered pickleball. At first, I played at other courts, but I always had to find a foursome before I could play. 286 00:42:16.750 --> 00:42:25.790 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): As a result, I didn't get on the court very often. Everything changed when I was introduced to Memorial Park. 287 00:42:25.900 --> 00:42:40.839 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): The system there was simple. You put your paddle down, and when a court opened up, the next four paddles played. I hardly knew anyone when I started, but it didn't take long before I felt like I was part of the group. 288 00:42:41.200 --> 00:42:51.560 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Today, those players are some of my closest friends. Sometimes I feel like Norm from Cheers. I walk up and I hear, Dina! Dina! Dina! 289 00:42:51.650 --> 00:43:01.210 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): We don't just play tickle ball together, we go to dinner, meet for happy hours, host pop, do crafts, and support one another. 290 00:43:01.330 --> 00:43:11.299 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): For many of us, pickleball was just how we met. What keeps us coming back are our friendships we've built, and the people we've come to care about. 291 00:43:11.460 --> 00:43:17.330 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): What started as a game has grown into a community that feels more like family. 292 00:43:17.900 --> 00:43:34.280 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't want to imagine what would happen if too many restrictions were placed on play. It wouldn't just reduce court time, it would disrupt our relationships and our support network that means far more than just a place to play. 293 00:43:34.640 --> 00:43:48.949 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I also want to emphasize that we care deeply about the neighbors. We understand that the noise can be frustrating and irritating, and we want a solution that works for everyone. 294 00:43:49.010 --> 00:44:02.020 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): The most effective way to address this issue is to install the noise barriers as soon as possible. Our neighbors have been waiting far too long, and they deserve relief. 295 00:44:02.340 --> 00:44:17.250 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): We support taking action now so that both the surrounding residents and the pickleball players can continue to enjoy Memorial Park and the sense of connection it brings to all of us. 296 00:44:17.690 --> 00:44:20.619 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Dean. 297 00:44:20.625 --> 00:44:25.845 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Marshall, followed by Mina Zhu. Welcome, Marshall. 298 00:44:25.845 --> 00:44:31.485 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, and thank you for hearing us out on this topic. My name's Marshall Maple. 299 00:44:31.490 --> 00:44:41.670 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm a Cupertino resident. I've moved to Cupertino in 94. I moved to California in 81. I moved to Cupertino for the schools, and my kids went K-12, 300 00:44:41.770 --> 00:45:00.329 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): graduated from Monta Vista, and they said the UCs were easier than high school. So, congratulations to you guys for, drawing that. You know, I have a very active lifestyle from the very beginning. I moved here from Ohio because I wanted to ski. The mountains in Ohio are not distant, right? But, you know, there's 301 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:13.069 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): pickleball, hockey, volleyball, you name your sport, I need to have some activity. You know, the big thing is, I started playing pickleball, I took lessons at the Sports Center in Cupertino. 302 00:45:13.070 --> 00:45:27.570 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): Probably a little over 3 years ago, then I started playing, I watched the transformation of the courts here at Memorial Park. It was one court, you had your nets, you had to drag them out. It was good for practicing, not so much for playing, and now it's 8 courts that are really… 303 00:45:27.570 --> 00:45:31.510 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): actively pursued with people, and, you know, I think the whole thing 304 00:45:31.510 --> 00:45:49.869 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): is really neat. Dina outlined that, the whole social aspect. I've gone to Mitchell Park in Palo Alto, McKenzie Park in Los Altos, Rang'sdorf. I frequented all of them for quite a while, but I've settled in on coming to Memorial Park because of the 305 00:45:49.870 --> 00:46:03.150 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): bench area that lets the people collect in between the games. There's 8 courts, there's probably 8 courts of people sitting there, and you get to meet all sorts of people, and I have formed lots of friendships on it. I think the socialization aspect of it 306 00:46:03.200 --> 00:46:18.220 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): can't be, lost in this whole thing, and, you know, it builds a sense of community here, you know? I guess the big thing is, there's noise. There's no doubt. There's a pop on the paddle, you know, so the… the… 307 00:46:18.765 --> 00:46:19.595 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conf Room): pickleball. 308 00:46:19.600 --> 00:46:29.960 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): committee here, CPC as we call them, you know, actively works with the neighbors. They've talked to them, and they understand the morning hours were the most offensive to them. 309 00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:46.280 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): they implemented, got everyone to use quiet paddles in the morning hours. I mean, that was proactively, on their own, just to try and address that. So, we're working with them, you know, in a good neighbor aspect of it. But what we've learned recently is there's a proposal to change 310 00:46:46.520 --> 00:47:05.690 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): the playtime. Get rid of Monday, force quiet paddles all the time, there's also… which will break down the whole ecosystem that you've established with this. And I think the point that we want to get is we have a proactive group here that will work the issues, that will meet you, will 311 00:47:05.690 --> 00:47:23.589 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): work through the process, but we don't want to be left out. But we understand the neighbors hadn't heard about these rules, we hadn't heard about these rules, and these changes will have a severe impact on the ability to play there. So, with that, I ask you to keep us involved, and thank you for your hearings. 312 00:47:24.270 --> 00:47:26.029 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, Marshall. 313 00:47:26.250 --> 00:47:28.990 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And our next speaker is Linda Zhu. 314 00:47:31.520 --> 00:47:32.829 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Hold on, Minam. 315 00:47:34.020 --> 00:47:57.460 Minna Xu: Oh, hello? Hi, my name is Mina, I'm a Cupertino resident, and I was also a Park and Rec Commissioner from 2018 to 2022, and last year, I came to this meeting and asked for the Lawrence Meaty Park schedule, because I remember before I left. 316 00:47:57.460 --> 00:48:04.919 Minna Xu: the Park Commission, in December, 2022, we started the. 317 00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:25.169 Minna Xu: conceptual design for Lawrence Meatty Park, but after that, seems the website was not updated. So, last year, I asked for the schedule, and thanks for all the staff, all the commissioners. Now, I see a very detailed schedule on Cupertino website. 318 00:48:25.170 --> 00:48:28.209 Minna Xu: About the Lawrence Meaty, park. 319 00:48:28.340 --> 00:48:36.580 Minna Xu: And now I just have some questions. I'm wondering if everything is on schedule now? 320 00:48:36.580 --> 00:48:56.980 Minna Xu: because there are several milestones in this year, in 2026, that in April, the Lawrence Meaty Park should already got the environmental permit, and in August, the… it should get the city permit. So I'm just wondering if it's… 321 00:48:56.980 --> 00:49:07.800 Minna Xu: still on schedule, because I remember at the beginning, we target the Lawrence Meaty Park will be completed in 2027. 322 00:49:07.820 --> 00:49:22.420 Minna Xu: And so, yeah, a lot of residents around that area, they're really concerned if this park, yeah, everything is still on schedule. And thank you for your effort. 323 00:49:22.420 --> 00:49:32.700 Minna Xu: Yeah, and we are very happy to see the detailed schedule, and so we can see if anything… everything is still on track. Yeah, that's all. Thanks. 324 00:49:33.750 --> 00:49:38.429 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, Megan. Thank you. We have no remaining speakers in person or remotely. 325 00:49:39.010 --> 00:49:46.900 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Awesome. Thank you. Thanks for your comments. I think Dina, Marshall, and Lena, so appreciate your time, and… Thank you. Thank you. 326 00:49:46.905 --> 00:49:48.425 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sure, yeah. 327 00:49:48.425 --> 00:49:53.704 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Would you say that we can just make one quick clarifying comment or something? There's nothing. 328 00:49:53.705 --> 00:49:58.884 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): it's really important that we cannot maintain this is not an agenda item. No, it's not, because it's. 329 00:49:58.885 --> 00:50:12.555 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): That was something you brought up, I think it is important to… because the issue came up about the timing restrictions. I don't believe it came in any of the Commission meetings, is all I'm saying, that even we are in the dark. 330 00:50:13.130 --> 00:50:15.839 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): So does that mean it won't go into effect? 331 00:50:15.845 --> 00:50:30.664 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, no, we cannot discuss it. Yeah, sorry, yeah. Yeah, so I think it's, it's under the City Council, as you know, on June 16th, there will be a discussion on the budget, and this particular item is on that one on June 16th. That's for your information. 332 00:50:30.675 --> 00:50:37.264 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Just wanted to let you know. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for raising your concerns and sharing with us. Appreciate it. Thank you. 333 00:50:38.135 --> 00:50:42.854 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): We had another person just raise their hand on Zoom for oral communication. 334 00:50:42.855 --> 00:50:45.775 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I haven't closed it yet, so… Okay. Please. 335 00:50:45.925 --> 00:50:48.764 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So our nextooper's name is Garrett. 336 00:50:50.370 --> 00:50:55.290 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): The speaker's name is Eric. Aerif. 337 00:51:10.200 --> 00:51:11.300 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Welcome, Eric. 338 00:51:14.250 --> 00:51:15.690 Aref: Hey there. Thank you. 339 00:51:16.060 --> 00:51:17.500 Aref: I hope you guys can hear me. 340 00:51:18.690 --> 00:51:19.530 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, please. 341 00:51:19.530 --> 00:51:32.330 Aref: Awesome. Good evening, everyone. My name is Araf Sheikh, and I'm a resident of Cupertino. I wanted to log on tonight just to share my perspective on our pickleball coach over at Memorial Park. 342 00:51:32.980 --> 00:51:38.340 Aref: When my family and I first started playing, we thought we were just picking up a fun hobby. 343 00:51:38.630 --> 00:51:41.470 Aref: But it has really become a vital anchor for us. 344 00:51:41.940 --> 00:51:46.999 Aref: Like every family today, our lives are busy with works, school, and daily schedules. 345 00:51:47.180 --> 00:51:55.029 Aref: While we value our time together at home, the Pickleball Court has given us a completely unique extra connection point. 346 00:51:55.330 --> 00:52:05.280 Aref: In fact, some weeks, I think we share more deep laughs and high fives on the court than we even manage around the dinner table or otherwise. 347 00:52:05.560 --> 00:52:10.120 Aref: It's a dedicated space where we can step away from a daily rush. 348 00:52:10.330 --> 00:52:14.699 Aref: Away from screens, and enjoy being a family. 349 00:52:14.980 --> 00:52:25.749 Aref: It doesn't replace the time we spend together at home, it actually amplifies it, adding a level of shared fun and energy that has truly enriched our lives. 350 00:52:26.140 --> 00:52:29.960 Aref: But that's just, that's, just half the story. 351 00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:35.650 Aref: The true magic of these codes is the unique community that we have, and it's growing. 352 00:52:35.940 --> 00:52:42.219 Aref: It's one of the rare places in our township where age, background, and ethnicity doesn't matter. 353 00:52:42.650 --> 00:52:46.479 Aref: On any given day, you'll see teenagers partnering with retirees. 354 00:52:46.610 --> 00:52:55.530 Aref: And neighbors who have lived here for decades welcoming people who just moved to the area. We were the newbies a couple of years back, and I was welcomed. 355 00:52:56.610 --> 00:53:05.610 Aref: It's become this amazing micro-neighborhood where everyone looks forward to seeing each other, catching up between games, or having good time together. 356 00:53:05.980 --> 00:53:12.079 Aref: It's transformed a simple public facility into a vibrant, welcoming hub. 357 00:53:12.330 --> 00:53:17.630 Aref: That gives everyone who plays there a profound sense of local belonging. 358 00:53:18.730 --> 00:53:27.729 Aref: Public spaces are meant to bring people together, and I want to commend the township, because these codes are exactly doing that, and much more. 359 00:53:28.050 --> 00:53:32.050 Aref: So I really hope you will keep supporting the Bical Codes. 360 00:53:32.250 --> 00:53:38.959 Aref: Specifically by not reducing the playing time, because that will really be counterproductive to what we have going there. 361 00:53:39.570 --> 00:53:43.940 Aref: I also hope the City Council votes in favor of the sound barrier. 362 00:53:44.070 --> 00:53:45.970 Aref: A win-win solution for all. 363 00:53:46.270 --> 00:53:47.469 Aref: Thank you for your time. 364 00:53:48.830 --> 00:53:49.970 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, Eric. 365 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:53.590 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have no permitting speakers, Chair. 366 00:53:53.595 --> 00:54:01.195 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, Eric. And so, if there's no more people on it, so let me close the oral communications. Thank you. 367 00:54:01.565 --> 00:54:02.655 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. 368 00:54:03.425 --> 00:54:04.425 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, sir. 369 00:54:05.525 --> 00:54:09.445 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Moving on to the next item, full business. 370 00:54:10.255 --> 00:54:13.245 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do we have any… know what this means? Like, stop? 371 00:54:15.465 --> 00:54:18.504 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, turn on to the new business. 372 00:54:18.855 --> 00:54:25.395 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Item number 4, the subject is Santa Clara County Library District Story Walk in… 373 00:54:26.015 --> 00:54:29.614 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, we're supposed to… 374 00:54:29.615 --> 00:54:30.375 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): We've been back. 375 00:54:30.375 --> 00:54:31.055 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So… 376 00:54:31.295 --> 00:54:37.314 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, we said after the new business. So, initial motion was to move that, as our staff was making the question on. 377 00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:44.329 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): the motion that we added, because my question is, is the city staff are on the clock? 378 00:54:45.560 --> 00:54:49.180 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Are they paid out… are we paying them to stay longer? 379 00:54:49.780 --> 00:54:52.809 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, because as an employer, I would not want that. 380 00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:57.520 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): it would be rude, and it would be under cost for the city, so… I think you should just ask. 381 00:54:57.525 --> 00:55:00.174 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): And we can take this offline at a later point. Yeah, but I think. 382 00:55:00.175 --> 00:55:04.145 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because it was the original portion when we found… I was just gonna say we've already found. 383 00:55:04.150 --> 00:55:06.150 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): take an action. Okay, fine. 384 00:55:06.155 --> 00:55:10.844 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think that's a valid point, Commissioner, Bono is bringing. 385 00:55:10.845 --> 00:55:14.985 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have staff presenting in both of the next two presentations, so… 386 00:55:15.395 --> 00:55:18.294 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): We're pretty much in the same situation with both, so… 387 00:55:18.295 --> 00:55:20.164 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): That might help you a bit. 388 00:55:20.170 --> 00:55:20.680 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Got it. 389 00:55:20.680 --> 00:55:31.789 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, okay, but I think it's a very valid point, Commissioner Bono. We will take that into consideration next time before we move on, any of those juggling agenda items. Thank you. 390 00:55:31.795 --> 00:55:40.224 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): join us at the table really quick and get comfortable while we get the technology set up. Thank you so much for being patiently waiting. 391 00:55:42.315 --> 00:55:48.254 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Before we move on, I just want to read out the recommended action, because I want to make sure Commissioners are aware. 392 00:55:48.435 --> 00:55:53.985 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, it's a receiver presentation from the County Library District, Santa Clara County Library District, and a rank 393 00:55:54.425 --> 00:56:01.274 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): the three potential walk locations for recommendation of the three walk initiatives for recommendation to the City Council. 394 00:56:01.675 --> 00:56:10.174 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Before we move on, maybe you can outline on what is that ranking, who ranks what, and what the role we are going to play. Absolutely. 395 00:56:10.175 --> 00:56:10.705 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): A lot of. 396 00:56:10.710 --> 00:56:12.889 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): people. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 397 00:56:12.895 --> 00:56:16.574 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): If I have to rank every… oh, it's too difficult. Yes, we have a lot of people. 398 00:56:16.575 --> 00:56:23.964 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): at the table. So, first of all, we have Diane and Karen here, that are from the library district. 399 00:56:23.965 --> 00:56:40.895 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): They're technically the ones making the proposal and presenting both tonight, but due to the unique relationship with this program that's being proposed to City Council, we also have members of the Library Commission here. The Library Commission heard this item last night. 400 00:56:40.905 --> 00:56:50.954 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And has a recommendation to Council on the program overall. However, the program overall has a component that involves parks. 401 00:56:50.955 --> 00:57:06.675 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right, and that's why this commission is involved in that element only, not on bringing the program to Cupertino as much as it is to… if the Council should take action to move forward, on which location, is 402 00:57:06.785 --> 00:57:23.654 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): you know, ranked, and whether they, concur with the recommendation of the Parks and Rec Commission. So it's a really unique project that's being, involved, really, four different partners, the city, the library district, the Library Commission, and the Parks and Recreation Commission. 403 00:57:23.655 --> 00:57:27.934 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so I'm gonna, do you have anything to add? Kind of still… 404 00:57:27.935 --> 00:57:28.635 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, I'm. 405 00:57:28.640 --> 00:57:30.870 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sorry! 406 00:57:31.705 --> 00:57:33.835 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm just gonna introduce everybody, but… Go for it. 407 00:57:33.835 --> 00:57:39.475 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Hi, nice to see you all. My name's Molly James, I'm one of the recreation Managers here, and I'm. 408 00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:52.169 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conf Room): also the liaison to the Library Commission. So that is the role that I am in tonight. And our wonderful library commissioners are very excited about this program. They have been championing… championing… Championing. Yep. 409 00:57:52.720 --> 00:58:03.250 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, and so excited for it, and so they have formed a subcommittee, to help with the presentation, from 410 00:58:03.250 --> 00:58:13.950 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conf Room): And they will help with, the presentation here, and then also, should it move forward to Council, they will also be there to answer questions, and things like that, should that move forward. 411 00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:21.049 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then we also have Diane Roche, who is our, the Director of County Library Communication and Marketing. 412 00:58:21.300 --> 00:58:31.599 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conf Room): And Karen Dixon, who works at our very own Cuppetino Library, and she is the, sorry, adult supervising Librarian, or other way around, supervising adult 413 00:58:31.980 --> 00:58:34.560 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conf Room): Prising Librarian for Adult and Teen Services. 414 00:58:34.560 --> 00:58:38.520 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's too close. 415 00:58:39.055 --> 00:58:43.704 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conf Room): And so they will be doing your presentation tonight, and our ask is that you rank. 416 00:58:43.855 --> 00:58:49.854 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conf Room): Should you choose to move forward, you rank the three locations that the city has selected as possible choices. 417 00:58:50.450 --> 00:58:59.610 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. So, kind of, before we move on to the presentation, so when we… I haven't seen… so, maybe we'll listen to it first, and then I wanted to see 418 00:59:00.310 --> 00:59:03.159 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): What the rationals begin, the initial proposal, and then… 419 00:59:03.670 --> 00:59:11.809 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I assume that we will rank it after the clarifying questions during the comment section, is it what I think, right? I think, 420 00:59:11.815 --> 00:59:12.574 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because there's no… 421 00:59:12.575 --> 00:59:20.734 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): banking sheet or anything, no prior, so I'm not sure. Correct. So maybe we'll listen in first, and then we will go on to clarifying questions. 422 00:59:20.845 --> 00:59:25.325 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, we will come back to the comment section at the time where we were. 423 00:59:25.575 --> 00:59:28.275 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Figuring out how you're going to help rank. 424 00:59:28.545 --> 00:59:37.805 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right? Or help support the initial ranking, whatever it is. Is that… that we can do that? Okay, so if that is the case, let's listen in. Explore is yours, please. 425 00:59:38.275 --> 00:59:44.574 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, I think I start, and thank you very much for your time. I want to be sure that I am. 426 00:59:44.580 --> 00:59:51.070 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): starting at the right place, so just a show of hands, how many of you are familiar with Weppy Story Walk? 427 00:59:52.650 --> 01:00:09.239 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, let me give you a high-level… a story walk is an opportunity for us to bring a storybook into a public space. So, in this case, it consists of 17 frames, semi-permanent frames. 428 01:00:09.240 --> 01:00:16.209 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): That we would install into a location, and we put in pages of a children's picture book. 429 01:00:16.210 --> 01:00:26.969 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): So it encourages families to be able to explore, exercise their bodies as well as their minds to introduce children to stories. 430 01:00:27.580 --> 01:00:29.750 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): And so, 431 01:00:30.040 --> 01:00:42.710 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): If we go to Y story blocks, the Santa Clara County Library District, we have 5 story blocks currently installed in 5 of our different cities. 432 01:00:42.710 --> 01:00:56.179 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it's a great opportunity for cities and for the library district to partner. What we have seen is that it builds a deeper community connection with their, in this case, a city park. 433 01:00:56.180 --> 01:01:04.580 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): is what we would be proposing. It just… it promotes just this healthy lifestyle, again, exercising your brain and your body. 434 01:01:04.580 --> 01:01:11.080 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): We… love to encourage families with little ones. Their children's brains are 435 01:01:11.210 --> 01:01:17.670 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): 90% developed by the time they're 5 years old. So the earlier we introduce them to reading. 436 01:01:17.830 --> 01:01:21.480 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): The more opportunity they have to become successful readers. 437 01:01:21.730 --> 01:01:31.349 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): And we really want to encourage that family engagement, getting families to walk around and read with their children. That's the best way to develop readers. 438 01:01:31.590 --> 01:01:47.470 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it's just… it's a great opportunity to introduce children to new words, to concepts, to get them moving and thinking, you know, because this is… this is how they develop all of the skills that they're going to need to be successful in school as well. 439 01:01:49.500 --> 01:02:07.210 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): And if you want to, I'm gonna kind of speed through, you can slow me down if you have questions, but just for sake of timing and respecting your time, I'm gonna move kind of quickly. So, this map is showing Jack Fisher Park, which is in, in Campbell. 440 01:02:07.540 --> 01:02:14.079 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): And the ideal criteria for selecting a story walk 441 01:02:14.200 --> 01:02:33.419 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): a park that is naturally bringing in young families. These are picture books, so we want to have parks that bring in the little ones. You know, we're talking the preschoolers, where they are just really getting introduced to words, books, and stories. 442 01:02:33.990 --> 01:02:37.879 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): Starting place, we say, you know, being in… 443 01:02:38.110 --> 01:02:51.289 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): parking lot or main entrance, but really it's flexible. Because we can design it to start at a playground. The ideal is to start it somewhere where those young families are going to be naturally congregating. 444 01:02:51.850 --> 01:03:11.409 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): We want to design it around a well-used path, so that families, especially if you have strollers with the little ones, they can easily make their way around, and we want to make it in a loop, so that is an easy start and end point from wherever, wherever they are. 445 01:03:11.710 --> 01:03:25.129 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): Playgrounds are the key. The families are coming to the parks to visit the playgrounds, so designing these around parks where the playgrounds are well attended is really key to our success. 446 01:03:25.220 --> 01:03:44.279 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): Again, there's 17 frames. Why 17? Because most picture books have about 16 spreads. So that is the natural number to accommodate the most number of picture books. And ideal is about a third of a mile to a half a mile loop. 447 01:03:44.480 --> 01:04:04.120 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): And that's because what we want to do is to design this so that families can see where the next board is. They can see where the next frame is, so it's an easy maneuver around, and it encourages kids to be able to participate directly, to see, to go to the next frame, and to get involved. 448 01:04:04.120 --> 01:04:07.860 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): So that is my quick, high-level 449 01:04:07.870 --> 01:04:19.670 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): introduction to story walks and, why we are proposing, and now I would love to turn it over to the Library Commission. Okay, thank you. Thanks for, starting out. 450 01:04:19.965 --> 01:04:26.384 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, I'm… my name is Chandra, I'm a vice chair for the Library Commission, and thanks for our commission, the subcommittee. 451 01:04:26.580 --> 01:04:29.510 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): And we get a chance to, give our POs. 452 01:04:29.640 --> 01:04:47.719 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): And this is prepared based on, we… we don't have any strong, like, recommendations, or, like, we put the points, but not the ranking. That's what we were in, like, when we were getting, like, Molly was assigning that, to the commission, whether it's interested or not, then that time, we had a discussion. 453 01:04:47.790 --> 01:04:57.329 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): should likely come from the ranking, and I think the recommendation was we were basically put the facts, not the recommendations. So it's… now it's your job to… 454 01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:16.220 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): give a recommendation, maybe. So there is the three parks. We have, initial proposal, like Jollyman Park, Wilson Park, and, Varian Park. These three parks were considered, basically, all those ideal location criterias, which these three parks basically satisfying those criterias. 455 01:05:16.300 --> 01:05:26.169 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): And you look at, like, young family, and Richard Lube, or Richie didn't want it to own and a mileage, those kind of requirements is well covered in these choices. 456 01:05:26.350 --> 01:05:36.179 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, so our subcommittee, like, we, Quinn and myself, are basically, part of this subcommittee. We split it into these park visits, so we went 457 01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:44.500 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): Took pictures, we observed the parking and other facilities, how it looked like, and whether it covers all these criterias for this report. 458 01:05:45.000 --> 01:06:01.619 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so it has both pron, like, in terms of strengths and considerations, what could be, like, considerations that you may need to go through, and quick facts, so I will give it to Quinn for the, Jollyman Partsen part, because she went to there, and then put the facts, so… 459 01:06:03.630 --> 01:06:05.870 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, yeah. Thank you. 460 01:06:05.870 --> 01:06:11.110 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): and the library commissioner. Yeah, so thank you for having me. 461 01:06:11.115 --> 01:06:13.385 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): here. I just want to stress one fact. 462 01:06:13.385 --> 01:06:14.155 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): is, yes. 463 01:06:14.155 --> 01:06:21.935 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): that Sunakara Cupertino Library is the best among the Sunakara County Library System, and currently. 464 01:06:22.015 --> 01:06:27.125 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): Five other cities already installed, only two more cities yet to install, so… 465 01:06:27.125 --> 01:06:42.674 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't want Cupertino to be the last. So, I'm really passionate to moving this project forward in Cupertino. So, and I, you know, my job here is just to present you with a quick fact. 466 01:06:42.675 --> 01:06:45.644 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): And so, for the Jollyman Park. 467 01:06:45.645 --> 01:06:49.715 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): You know, the quick fact is, the pack, and… 468 01:06:49.755 --> 01:07:08.165 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): For the baseball court field, basketball, soccer, all-inclusive playground, picnic area, and have a nice long circle, like a quarter mile to half mile, maybe more even closer to half mile, walking loop, and the dock off-leash parks. 469 01:07:08.165 --> 01:07:13.565 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's in an area near mostly single-family homes and Deanna College. 470 01:07:13.695 --> 01:07:27.124 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): And the park is located near a VTA bus, you know, route, and along with a bike pass, and many parking spaces off the Sterling Road, Tuscany Place, and many other places. 471 01:07:27.375 --> 01:07:34.645 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): So the stress for the Jollyman Park is an inclusive, very beautiful playground. 472 01:07:35.555 --> 01:07:55.105 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, the loop, yeah, it's a long, you know, very, I think, is among the longer one, among the three parks. The Jollyman Park is the longest, supported the 17, frame. And I have a many parking space, and the ADA parks, and a strong, you know, existing weekends, very busy. 473 01:07:55.205 --> 01:08:02.865 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, some considerations and, you know, surrounding area mostly are single-family homes in Jollyman Park. 474 01:08:02.915 --> 01:08:15.445 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, and it's, you know, not that, like, walkable from other areas to the park for the young children and all that. Shared youth sports over the weekend. 475 01:08:15.615 --> 01:08:28.355 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): And the dog parks, and then, yeah, the sign placements must avoid the field events, like, what can be seen. And a weekend tournament could be compete with the… 476 01:08:29.314 --> 01:08:32.564 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): tell your attention or partly et cetera, yeah. 477 01:08:32.915 --> 01:08:43.944 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): So that is your footwork. You know, it's beautiful. All parks, but you're not beautiful. You guys have a good job, nice job there. So, yeah, next is, Wilson Park. 478 01:08:44.305 --> 01:09:05.895 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): So the quick fact about Wilson Park is there is a community garden, it's a small one, but there is one there, and I have a baseball field, basketball court, newly built, soccer field, playground, picnic area, and there's a loop, probably the shortest among the three parks, is, like, more close to the 479 01:09:05.895 --> 01:09:07.635 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): One-third a mile. 480 01:09:07.635 --> 01:09:09.714 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): group, and I have a restroom. 481 01:09:09.935 --> 01:09:23.285 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, it's a very strong walkability from nearby homes and trails, and, surrounded by apartments and condos. Also, the future, you know, high density, 482 01:09:23.465 --> 01:09:34.604 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): housing nearby. I believe there are many, you know, several nearby high densities which could, have more small children. 483 01:09:34.814 --> 01:09:40.514 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): Enough parking, you know, off the streets around the area. 484 01:09:41.444 --> 01:09:53.574 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): And the strength is the dense multi- family and walkable. That's definitely a strength for the Wilson Park. And one of the boat that I just talked there is actually close 485 01:09:53.575 --> 01:10:02.434 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): to the regular trail. So, regular trail, you know, families walking along, they have a nice detour to the park, get the… 486 01:10:02.885 --> 01:10:12.295 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): walk the story walk, and let's continue their walk to the Ragina Trail. It's definitely… and, yeah, so, 487 01:10:12.635 --> 01:10:18.164 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): Like, as a community garden audience, and good visibility for frequent walking rod. 488 01:10:18.355 --> 01:10:35.674 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): Consideration is, shoulder loop. Like I mentioned, this one has the shortest, maybe a little bit tight, and a weekend baseball game, you know, maybe causing parking pressure to the area, and, less shade. 489 01:10:36.355 --> 01:10:40.495 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): So that is with, Wilson Park. 490 01:10:45.870 --> 01:10:54.929 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so the variant park, which I went there, and I just started putting packs here, right? Like, especially the park amenities includes the tennis courts. 491 01:10:55.210 --> 01:11:00.870 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): And the playgrounds, also, another group picnic areas also available at the entrance of the park. 492 01:11:00.990 --> 01:11:16.799 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it's kind of a large open grass field. It's almost, like, one-third mile of the paved area, so the loop is, like, kind of a paved. Then the heritage apricot are also there, and then, like, you see the benches and other foundation, water foundations. 493 01:11:16.950 --> 01:11:27.549 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): Then the, there are multiple park entrances there, like, there is 3 different ways to enter into the path, and then the ambulance parking, like, in terms of the ADA spaces as well. 494 01:11:27.660 --> 01:11:40.400 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it also has the bus connection from the Sterling Road to… only thing, it's in the, west side of, Monta Vista side. So, the strength over there is, like, a continuous, payout loop around the grass. 495 01:11:40.480 --> 01:11:56.100 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, obviously, it looks very nice in that perspective. And the shades, like, there is a lot of big canopy tree out there, so it's basically… it has a mature shade. The heritage Arcad's also telling the good storytelling backdrop there. 496 01:11:56.620 --> 01:12:09.400 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): Then, obviously, the, it's more closer to the much residential area, like, not like the other, the, high-density area. It's, it's very, single-family areas. 497 01:12:09.500 --> 01:12:21.870 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): The consideration facts that we may need to consider this park, like, there are a couple of points. One is the reachability is, like, mostly, when we visit it, it's kind of like, 498 01:12:21.930 --> 01:12:40.169 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): neighborhood, right? Neighborhood Park, not like a Jollyman or a park. So that is one path that we manage to consider, that vegetation patterns. Obviously, it's very close to that community, so more often, the people will be, like, known to that path. So the story walk might be, like, one time interest, right, for them. 499 01:12:40.250 --> 01:12:47.820 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's a fact, might be. And then the other part is, like, some parts may meet the sand and docket, right? That's another fact. 500 01:12:48.040 --> 01:13:03.159 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): The… and also the, as I mentioned, tennis court that also gets peaks activated at some point of time. So these are the… some of the points on this park. It's kind of very quiet, obviously the, very, very much like a greenish area of the field out there. 501 01:13:03.860 --> 01:13:05.260 Quinlan Conf Room: So, next. 502 01:13:06.870 --> 01:13:18.600 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): So the next steps, what, so before getting to the next steps, I just want to give a good little background. So, why these three? We do… I just, maybe I just get to Molly's permission as well. 503 01:13:18.780 --> 01:13:34.389 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, we do have, like, a BlackBerry Form Part 2, but it was because of the criteria didn't fill, then we basically, dropped that one, and we took the variable park as one of the, items, right? So, next steps here… Repeat that. 504 01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:35.889 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): You had Blackberry Fox? 505 01:13:35.895 --> 01:13:39.425 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): But it's not that loop, so we didn't find it. 506 01:13:39.885 --> 01:13:41.254 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Blackberry Farm was… was… 507 01:13:41.260 --> 01:13:48.719 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conf Room): originally thrown out as a possible site from the city, and then when we saw the criteria that it was a continuous loop, it… 508 01:13:48.725 --> 01:13:53.745 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I just didn't understand, so… Yes. Okay. So, just to give you a background, so… 509 01:13:54.460 --> 01:14:14.170 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): So next steps, the Park and Recreation Committee, like, now we put very, clean report here, what positive facts and the consideration aspects, right? So you guys can, maybe rank these proposed parks, what is the best one for benefit for the community, especially for the young, young family communities. 510 01:14:14.200 --> 01:14:25.800 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): The second item is, like, obviously you can… this item will go to the city for consideration. Based on these facts, on the ranks, the ranks should be behind these facts, right? 511 01:14:25.850 --> 01:14:40.470 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): Then the third one is, like, if approved, obviously the Park and Recreation will coordinate with the public works, and then Santa Clara County Library, and determine the final place for the parking signage within the selected park. 512 01:14:40.590 --> 01:14:50.340 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then the last step will be the Santa Clara County will work with the Foundation, our library foundation, for funding on the hardware to install. So, these are the ideal next steps. 513 01:14:50.550 --> 01:14:51.900 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): that obviously. 514 01:14:52.270 --> 01:15:11.249 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thanks for this opportunity, and I especially like to thank Molly and city staff, they were really helpful, and when they were basically giving an option, we were, like, so excited, like, okay, let's get this… put our facts, right? And then they were only suggesting, okay, let's form a subcommittee and then take it forward. 515 01:15:11.250 --> 01:15:16.280 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, really appreciated all the help we wasted, and obviously, Quinn was helping a lot. 516 01:15:16.280 --> 01:15:32.970 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): guiding us, so… Thank you, yeah, so… Thank you, it's really appreciated. One more thing, the Santa Clara County and the Brian is not here, and Cam is here, so they're all basically… it's a multi-team effort. We should, like, I should give a credit to everyone. Thanks for… Yeah, this is a… 517 01:15:33.220 --> 01:15:48.590 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): truly a team effort presentation, although it was only a page, but the, you know, like, two staff from library past Brian, three of us, and the two of us five, and the three city staff, right? Molly and the… 518 01:15:49.050 --> 01:15:52.629 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): the… what else? Carolyn. Oh, yes. 519 01:15:52.630 --> 01:15:53.749 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): director or something. 520 01:15:53.755 --> 01:15:59.694 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): All reviewed before we bring the final version here, present to you, yes. 521 01:15:59.695 --> 01:16:13.665 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, so I really appreciate it. I think it's really a good collaborating effort. Awesome. So now we'll go on clarifying questions from the commissioners, and then we'll go for a public comments and the two comments from the commissioners, so… 522 01:16:14.215 --> 01:16:17.504 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): When it comes to Sheikah, that's the first question, please. 523 01:16:17.510 --> 01:16:26.300 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): two short questions. Thank you, Commissioner Chinpan, and thank you, Library Vice Chair, Committee Vice Chair Shaktiweh. 524 01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:39.799 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): This is really good, and thank you, Molly. It was a great effort. I have two questions. Question number one, you proposed, three, parts, of which only one will be picked, right? Yes. Okay. 525 01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:47.619 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And my second question is, would there be a change of story frequently, or is it the same story, 526 01:16:47.690 --> 01:16:48.640 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Fives. 527 01:16:48.645 --> 01:16:51.185 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): We change the storage 3 times a year. 528 01:16:51.190 --> 01:16:52.579 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think that's awesome. 529 01:16:52.580 --> 01:16:57.040 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Awesome. Thank you for all your research, and, Propos 7. Amazing. 530 01:16:58.130 --> 01:17:00.840 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Any other Commissioner? Yeah, Commissioner Swan. 531 01:17:00.845 --> 01:17:09.084 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): funding coming from for this? I mean, it's… first of all, it's fantastic. I love the idea, hands down. Because you're involved, that's why I was curious. 532 01:17:09.085 --> 01:17:10.425 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): The Library District. 533 01:17:10.425 --> 01:17:24.534 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): We, I'll say the, the biggest output for this project is for the, just for the hardware. So, all the frames, the installation, and the library district and others. 534 01:17:24.855 --> 01:17:33.255 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then 3 times a year, we change out the stories, so there's purchasing, the licensing for the stories, the materials… The City of Cupertino has no. 535 01:17:33.255 --> 01:17:35.604 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): excited. No, no. 536 01:17:35.610 --> 01:17:37.520 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): There is no cost to the. 537 01:17:37.525 --> 01:17:38.574 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): even better. 538 01:17:41.620 --> 01:17:45.019 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): This is just lovely. Thank you so much for watching. Okay. 539 01:17:45.810 --> 01:17:50.019 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thanks for following our questions based on yours. Why do we have to… 540 01:17:50.220 --> 01:17:55.520 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): After the ranking, why just one? If it's three, can we not see them all? I'm just asking. 541 01:17:55.525 --> 01:18:10.404 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): I will say that there is a pretty big expenditure for the library district. Per location, just for the frames alone, is about $15,000. And then, you know, each story… the prices are eking up on us, and we're… 542 01:18:11.190 --> 01:18:13.620 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I have a follow-up question, and then… 543 01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:25.970 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Why does it really need to be 17 visible, frame if it's cost concern? For example, I'm a resident of Cupertino, and I always walk my dog at Franco Park. 544 01:18:26.090 --> 01:18:40.550 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's smaller, but it's also for smaller kids, and so even though the loop may be super small, the end result of pushing young kids to read early might work as well, so 545 01:18:40.700 --> 01:18:50.830 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): would there be maybe a future consideration for micro parts to be included that would be also less expensive, but still good? 546 01:18:50.830 --> 01:19:08.500 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): The 17 frames is tied to the average number of pages in a story, in a picture book, and the average number is about 16. That's why the number of frames is 17. So even if you had a smaller park where, you know, you had fewer frames, it really wouldn't work with a picture book. 547 01:19:08.840 --> 01:19:17.739 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): For a story walk, and that's why the 17 frames is what we are providing to all of our cities. 548 01:19:17.990 --> 01:19:23.860 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because that accommodates the greatest number of picture books that we can purchase. 549 01:19:24.360 --> 01:19:25.700 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): That we can select. 550 01:19:26.110 --> 01:19:29.099 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay? Okay. Thank you. Okay, sorry, dear. 551 01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:34.679 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I have one clarification question. So, how did we come up with these three? 552 01:19:35.370 --> 01:19:42.020 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Compared to all the parts. What analysis has been done, by whom, and how did you arrive at that? 553 01:19:42.645 --> 01:19:45.784 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, I think Molly has the answer for that. 554 01:19:45.785 --> 01:19:48.064 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): We'll tell you all the things that are playing against me. 555 01:19:48.065 --> 01:19:51.784 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's okay, it's a team effort, you know, so… 556 01:19:51.785 --> 01:20:01.255 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conf Room): I believe that these three were identified, by the Director of Parks and Recreation and the Director of Public Works, together at the criteria, which is harder than it looks. 557 01:20:02.020 --> 01:20:07.539 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, you have Queenside Park that is so… there's so many kids, and it's pretty huge. 558 01:20:07.890 --> 01:20:10.030 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): It is, and I'm not. 559 01:20:10.030 --> 01:20:23.830 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conf Room): sure why things weren't selected necessarily. These were the three that were put forward to us. And I'm sure that there's a variety… I'm sure that there is a reason why, especially, I would assume, like, the soccer that happens on Creekside would be… 560 01:20:23.830 --> 01:20:27.210 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's what I was thinking. Yeah. That may be the mitigating side. Yes. 561 01:20:28.110 --> 01:20:31.319 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so that's the only question I had. 562 01:20:31.530 --> 01:20:44.520 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Any other questions then? Great, so we should still open this also for public comments. And I think it goes from previous, I believe, but yeah, Steph, please go ahead, if anybody, public. 563 01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:49.740 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I have one speaker remotely, Mena. One moment while I bring up a timer. 564 01:20:51.790 --> 01:21:10.340 Minna Xu: Oh, hello? Hello, my name is Mina, and I'm currently the chair of Library Commission, but today my speech only represents myself. Yeah, I believe the story work is a very good project. A lot of people worked 565 01:21:10.340 --> 01:21:25.730 Minna Xu: hard to, yeah, try to make it happen. And, other than the project itself, it's also aligned with this year's mayor's initiative, like Move More. 566 01:21:25.730 --> 01:21:43.309 Minna Xu: So, even if you want to read a book, you can go outside and move more and read the storybook. That's a fantastic thing. You know, we really hope this project can be launched as soon as possible. And in the other five. 567 01:21:43.310 --> 01:22:02.270 Minna Xu: cities, you know, the community feedback, yeah, very positive for this pro… such project. And, I, I heard some, good question by park commissioner asking about, is it possible we can have more chance? Yeah, so, 568 01:22:02.610 --> 01:22:25.910 Minna Xu: So, at first, actually, the Santa Clara County Library District picked Ragna Creek, but the Ragina Creek, turned out, doesn't belong to Cortino City. We have to deal with the Santa Clara, water, Valley Water District, so then we have to give up that proposal. 569 01:22:25.910 --> 01:22:31.220 Minna Xu: and switch to the three options of Cupertino Parks. 570 01:22:31.220 --> 01:22:34.620 Minna Xu: And if this project turned 571 01:22:34.620 --> 01:22:49.209 Minna Xu: welcomed by the community. Maybe, possibly, in the future, our city can find some other location to have a similar project, like, yeah, just… 572 01:22:49.320 --> 01:23:13.039 Minna Xu: as someone just mentioned the Creekside Park, or maybe by the trail of the Lawrence Meatty Park, because the trail, the long trail along Lawrence Meatty Park that belong to our city. And for the current three locations, so my opinion is, looks… the variant park has the least foot traffic. And for the Jollyman Park, I remember 573 01:23:13.040 --> 01:23:15.210 Minna Xu: A lot of new projects tipped. 574 01:23:15.210 --> 01:23:18.099 Minna Xu: Going to John Liman Park in past years. 575 01:23:18.220 --> 01:23:27.350 Minna Xu: Yeah, the good thing is it attracts food traffic, but looks like it keeps having new projects. But Wilson Park. 576 01:23:27.350 --> 01:23:40.640 Minna Xu: Actually, it's close to some high-density housing, and close to Stevens Creek, the city center, yeah, with a large population. So, yeah, I… 577 01:23:41.200 --> 01:23:48.599 Minna Xu: looks like, yeah, in my opinion, Wilson Park looks pretty good. But anyway, it's up to the… 578 01:23:48.600 --> 01:24:04.069 Minna Xu: Parks and Rec Commission and the City Council to make the final decision. Yeah, I respect your opinion, and thank you so much for, yeah, also show very… show strong interest in this project. Thanks. 579 01:24:05.580 --> 01:24:09.689 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, Minna. We have no remaining speakers, Chair. Thank you. 580 01:24:09.695 --> 01:24:16.004 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, Amela, for the comment, and since there's no one, so I'll close the public comment, and we'll open up 581 01:24:16.275 --> 01:24:24.345 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): For the Commissioners to make any comments first, before we understand how the process of voting, in a way. 582 01:24:24.655 --> 01:24:26.894 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And so, can we describe across the how we're gonna go… 583 01:24:26.900 --> 01:24:27.609 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, that's what I… 584 01:24:27.610 --> 01:24:29.199 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): first? Yeah. Can I ask a quick question? 585 01:24:29.205 --> 01:24:37.344 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): If we could please, back to the presentation for Johnnyman Park fact sheet, if possible. I'm so sorry, I missed the key. 586 01:24:37.345 --> 01:24:42.384 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's important for our rankings. 11 acres. Huh? 11 acres. Okay. 587 01:24:42.845 --> 01:24:47.265 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I want to know as far as, the loop. The loop, the mile loop. 588 01:24:48.775 --> 01:24:58.794 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): It says one-third and half a mile. And that was the goal. So, what does that mean? It's smaller than a third? No, no, no, it's a lot better than a third. 589 01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:03.130 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, it's the longer. Yeah, it's the longest. 590 01:25:03.135 --> 01:25:06.094 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): a half mile, all these… Yeah, so only. 591 01:25:06.095 --> 01:25:09.435 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): that one shows one-third to a half. It's true for all three parts. 592 01:25:09.670 --> 01:25:12.550 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): So that's… yeah. 593 01:25:12.550 --> 01:25:17.380 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Got it. Okie dokie. Okay. So you got it? Yes, thank you. Awesome. 594 01:25:17.385 --> 01:25:37.075 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so, if are there any other comments or anything, then I think I would like to understand the process, right? How we are going to… and before… before that, maybe I'll make comments. So, maybe staff, you said that there was some analysis done by the Public Works and the Park and Rec, 595 01:25:38.105 --> 01:25:41.074 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): staff to come up with these three 596 01:25:41.455 --> 01:25:43.335 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Compared to all of them, right? 597 01:25:43.725 --> 01:25:57.075 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I do not know, so maybe later it'll be great for the Commission to see that, so that, just for our own education, how those three got selected, too, right? Because I do not know, so that's not now, but it'll be good for us to be in a 598 01:25:57.375 --> 01:26:09.665 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): In fact, because I'm sure when we go into the public, when this course rolls out, the public will ask some questions, and we have no idea how to answer, and I cannot say, I don't know, it's the… 599 01:26:09.675 --> 01:26:26.474 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): park and ride department, others. So it'll be good for us to be an educational side. I would like to request to the Carolinas staff, so later, we would like to get that report on how this got selected, so it's for our own education purpose. So that's number one. So now. 600 01:26:26.505 --> 01:26:34.955 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): we need to go through the process, and I have no idea where to start. But, yeah, Glenn, I would like to. Definitely, we need some ideas. 601 01:26:35.105 --> 01:26:37.275 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): But before we go there. 602 01:26:37.795 --> 01:26:49.094 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Based on the experience from the Santa Clara, because you installed at the other five cities, right? And you've gone through this process many times. This is maybe the sixth time you're coming to our city. 603 01:26:49.535 --> 01:27:02.224 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, it'll be good even if you just take a few minutes, less than 2 or 3 minutes to explain. What has the process followed? You might have gone through the similar exercise with others, just for our own educational purpose, if you could just outline 604 01:27:02.385 --> 01:27:06.575 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): two to three minutes. What was the process? What criteria within these three 605 01:27:06.865 --> 01:27:18.495 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): they selected it. Is it, like, the loop, what, like Commissioner Bo asked, or the foot traffic, or the neighborhood number of houses? We don't know. But it'll be good for us to know before we get on to 606 01:27:18.635 --> 01:27:22.435 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): debate here to really choose the… can you please? 607 01:27:22.435 --> 01:27:32.085 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): I wish I could tell you that there was the same process by each city. That didn't happen. What I can tell you is 608 01:27:32.695 --> 01:27:35.584 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): From our experience of what is working well. 609 01:27:35.685 --> 01:27:45.294 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): And what is not, you know? I do believe one of our parks, the… the story walk is very long. 610 01:27:45.345 --> 01:27:54.464 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): And when you have families with very little kids, it's challenging. And it's challenging to maintain, honestly, so I… 611 01:27:54.465 --> 01:28:08.134 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): The… I'll say on the flip side, Milpitas, they chose a very well-trafficked park, but they chose to put their story walk, to your point about a micropark, they chose to put their story walk just 612 01:28:08.135 --> 01:28:11.464 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): around the circle of the playground. So it is… 613 01:28:11.985 --> 01:28:31.604 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): you know, one minute, and the kids are done, and, you know, they have completed their story walk. So, the better solutions, the ones that are more successful, I would say if you want to go over to some of your neighboring cities in Saratoga and in Campbell. 614 01:28:32.935 --> 01:28:52.825 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): Jack Fisher Park in Campbell, and then, Kevin Moran Park in Saratoga. It's a good distance. It is matching, really, what your recommended parks are here. It's a good distance for families with little ones. I'll tell you the feedback from our families. 615 01:28:52.935 --> 01:28:54.135 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): Parents. 616 01:28:54.215 --> 01:29:01.765 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have new families coming to the parks because of this, because they are introduced to the park because of the story walk. 617 01:29:01.785 --> 01:29:11.495 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): We held in a bag to kind of kick things off. Families who come to the park really appreciate it, because the kids beeline it for the playground. 618 01:29:11.495 --> 01:29:25.655 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's where they want to be. They are running around, they're having a wonderful time, but it gives the parents an opportunity to slow the kids down, to take them out of the playground, to walk. Walk. 619 01:29:25.715 --> 01:29:38.785 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): From page to page of the storybook, and engage with their kids in a different way, and engage their children, you know, in a different way, where they are thinking, they are acting, 620 01:29:39.185 --> 01:29:42.185 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): More calm and more focused. 621 01:29:42.255 --> 01:30:00.195 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then it gives the parents a chance to just kind of break that… that cycle. They take them back to the playground, the kids can play some more, but it also is a great opportunity for the families to explore the park, right? They come, they park, they go to the playground, and they leave. 622 01:30:00.295 --> 01:30:09.805 Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conf Room): This is an opportunity to get them to really engage with the full expanse of the park, wherever we put the storylines. So… 623 01:30:09.805 --> 01:30:10.764 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, alright. 624 01:30:10.765 --> 01:30:17.495 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think that's good. Thank you, really appreciate it. So now, I think, Commissioner Bono, we'd like to hear from you. 625 01:30:17.500 --> 01:30:27.339 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): very pragmatic person, and I don't like to waste time, and I kind of analyze things very quickly. I'll just tell you, for me. 626 01:30:27.340 --> 01:30:45.040 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Varian Park is out of the way. Why? Because of the tennis court. It's hard for kids, for anyone. For me, noise and this and that bothers me on my concentration, so how can you be attracted by a story amidst noises? That's my take. That is me, so I would… 627 01:30:45.045 --> 01:30:51.045 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sorry, sorry, Commissioner Bono. I think I would like to understand, is there any process? I know we will go for… 628 01:30:51.045 --> 01:30:54.305 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): The process, right? 629 01:30:54.890 --> 01:30:57.040 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Suggest, or let's go with, like… 630 01:30:57.045 --> 01:31:08.905 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): And a major question, because, to be honest with you, in order to select this, my question that I have is, and maybe you can help out. 631 01:31:09.015 --> 01:31:21.435 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Does the fact that Wilson Park has, near the Regner Trail, does that… does that… are there many families with young kids going to that trail? No, but they said that. 632 01:31:21.435 --> 01:31:23.494 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or the families close to the park. 633 01:31:23.645 --> 01:31:24.155 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Talking. 634 01:31:24.155 --> 01:31:30.854 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I still want to know whether a lot of families go to the trail. I know it's long, but… No, I, you know. 635 01:31:30.860 --> 01:31:49.509 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): live nearby their area, so I do see families, you know, with kids on the trail wall. And, so if that is the… and, I'm not sure if it's… It's allowed, you know, I have a small video, actually, when I visit one of them, I talk for the activity, so for the… I know… 636 01:31:49.510 --> 01:31:58.110 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): If it's not an audience… Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. It's public to see. Some of them, I, you know… 637 01:31:58.110 --> 01:32:00.930 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, maybe… I don't know what… Jared. 638 01:32:00.930 --> 01:32:07.549 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, Chengping. I think… I think maybe we'll go with the… the elimination. Let me complete this one. 639 01:32:07.555 --> 01:32:08.645 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): One other quick comments. 640 01:32:08.645 --> 01:32:19.094 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Just a very quick… if you want to do the rankings like you did last time for the amount of money, that took a long time. 641 01:32:19.095 --> 01:32:28.915 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): But if you just put these three parts, 5 of us, we'll just 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1 to 3, not much discouragement. It'll be efficient, and it'll… the winners come in. 642 01:32:29.265 --> 01:32:30.264 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Am I right? 643 01:32:30.950 --> 01:32:45.569 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, no, so I think that's a process you're proposing. I am proposing that is one of the processes. One of the processes. Okay, so, and I think I'm sure Bono, you said, we go by elimination process. Would the rational behind why you're eliminating? Like you said… sorry, you were about to say… 644 01:32:45.575 --> 01:32:50.794 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): With any process we decide, as long as I'm able to say which one is 1, 2, 3. 645 01:32:50.795 --> 01:32:53.055 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't know what I don't know. 646 01:32:53.800 --> 01:33:00.569 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't think I want to eliminate anything, I just want to rank 1 to 3. Right. Yeah, no, but I'm saying. 647 01:33:00.575 --> 01:33:04.314 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's not eliminated completely, but he's going on how to… 648 01:33:04.315 --> 01:33:05.795 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is it the way. Yeah. 649 01:33:05.795 --> 01:33:10.544 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): What we can do is each of us use the ranking with our reason. 650 01:33:10.550 --> 01:33:23.349 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think that would help. Thank you. I think that way we can go what you rank as 1, 2, 3, based on whatever rational it is, and we don't have to go in a deep debate on that one, because some of the work has been already done. 651 01:33:23.590 --> 01:33:32.789 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): We will see how far this ranking goes, and is there any clear which are coming? Or, again, Ty, let's see if that be? 652 01:33:32.795 --> 01:33:51.584 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): But as they were presenting, we all have, made some assumptions and decided what we want to propose individually. So I feel that we don't even need to give the reasoning, everyone give their ranking, and then let's see where we stand in common. Reasoning will matter, first of all. 653 01:33:51.585 --> 01:34:08.355 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, this is the process proposal, I'm saying. Let's see where we stand with respect to how they have ranked all these parts are the ranks. If there is a disagreement, then we can come up with discussions 654 01:34:08.475 --> 01:34:10.304 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sure, any, any… 655 01:34:10.305 --> 01:34:26.045 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): A brief description of why you're ranking is also okay. It's not a debate if Commissioner Shika and the Commissioner of Standard say something and have a different view. It's not like we're going into hours of debate. We just say that here's why I'm ranking. 656 01:34:26.045 --> 01:34:34.785 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): But I think maybe it can be a two-step process. It's not going to be such a difficult one. I'm sorry, question, you were about to say. Yeah, so just like, when you. 657 01:34:34.785 --> 01:34:36.594 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's the question, right, that, 658 01:34:36.665 --> 01:34:44.705 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): what's the criteria that, basically, what is a successful storytelling thing, right? I think this slide, this comes from the Santa Clara Library. 659 01:34:44.705 --> 01:34:57.424 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): They're all these, like, six factors, whatever is here, we may need to, like, these are the criterias that they put. Like, one is the young family park, and second is the start at the entrance. 660 01:34:57.425 --> 01:34:59.145 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm sorry, go slow, little dog. 661 01:34:59.145 --> 01:34:59.874 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think so. 662 01:34:59.880 --> 01:35:04.969 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, if you don't mind, can you just flash that, slide again, Lindsay? That one slide. 663 01:35:05.670 --> 01:35:07.690 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): Slash itself, yeah. 664 01:35:07.690 --> 01:35:09.210 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, you could just make it a little. 665 01:35:09.215 --> 01:35:11.415 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): started entrance, okay. Can you zoom it? 666 01:35:11.415 --> 01:35:14.855 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): a little bit further. My dad forgot to bring my glasses. Can I use fat? 667 01:35:17.885 --> 01:35:20.895 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Awesome, thank you. So this is the one… 668 01:35:20.900 --> 01:35:28.689 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): We tried to come up with our own score as well, but we didn't make… we don't want to make you guys buy us, so… That's okay, thank you. 669 01:35:28.690 --> 01:35:32.109 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes. Direct at Influence. 670 01:35:32.115 --> 01:35:32.855 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): One is young. 671 01:35:32.860 --> 01:35:42.599 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Family Park, which really resonates with me. Okay, well… I can still. Yes, absolutely. Know your audience, it's for the audience, yeah. 672 01:35:42.950 --> 01:35:45.840 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm sorry, give me a second, please, I'll just… That's right, makes it clear. 673 01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:48.960 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): what it should be. Okay, 1.30… 674 01:35:48.960 --> 01:35:55.350 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so, we can go back to Carolyn, sorry. I think Commissioner Stamps. 675 01:35:56.090 --> 01:36:02.409 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I guess I just wanted to make one comment on the criteria, the young family parks, and I think 676 01:36:03.250 --> 01:36:04.830 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): what I… 677 01:36:05.150 --> 01:36:20.629 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I'm struggling with that, because I think it's for everybody. It… I mean, I think it attracts young families, but especially with Jollyman, where we have our neurodivergent population, and we're trying to make sure that we have opportunities for those people, and 678 01:36:20.860 --> 01:36:24.279 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): that is at Jollyman. And so, I think… 679 01:36:24.310 --> 01:36:42.829 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): with that, I would just expand that, is to those who can really benefit from it. Yes. And it's not just young families, it would be… maybe it's an adult with a limited understanding, and someone who can only, appreciate something at a second or third grade level, something like that. 680 01:36:43.600 --> 01:36:56.889 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sometimes we can over-program a park, and other times we can direct new traffic to a new park, so I'd ask for you to take those two things into consideration when you're looking at your ranking as well. 681 01:36:56.895 --> 01:36:59.155 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Can you repeat it again, Carolyn? 682 01:36:59.155 --> 01:37:00.164 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sometimes we have a tendency to. 683 01:37:00.170 --> 01:37:02.130 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): over-program a park, where there's just. 684 01:37:02.135 --> 01:37:04.625 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): There's too much going into so many different things. 685 01:37:04.625 --> 01:37:12.744 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): But the other thing I would say is sometimes a park that has a new element to it then attracts a. 686 01:37:12.750 --> 01:37:13.370 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Gotcha. 687 01:37:13.375 --> 01:37:14.195 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Got it. 688 01:37:14.195 --> 01:37:17.875 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, I completely conflu. Right, so I would… 689 01:37:19.415 --> 01:37:20.285 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conf Room): Consultation. 690 01:37:20.290 --> 01:37:35.209 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I did make an Excel spreadsheet, and I don't want you to watch my typing, so if you wouldn't mind, we can go one by one, and you can rank just… I have them listed in alphabetical order, I have Jollyman first. 691 01:37:35.210 --> 01:37:47.870 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I have Varian, excuse me, Varian second, Wilson third, so if you can just let me know, 1, 2, and 3, 3, 2, and 1, 2, 3, 1, whatever the case may be. I'm ready. 692 01:37:47.875 --> 01:37:48.655 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Chronicle? 693 01:37:48.655 --> 01:37:50.524 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, it goes on today. 694 01:37:50.530 --> 01:37:51.590 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): And Wilson. 695 01:37:51.595 --> 01:37:52.725 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): and that started rhyme. 696 01:37:52.725 --> 01:37:53.094 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don'. 697 01:37:53.100 --> 01:37:53.820 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): to go to number one. 698 01:37:54.010 --> 01:37:57.570 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, understaffed. Right. So, if I can… 699 01:37:57.575 --> 01:38:01.294 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Just call on you, so that way I keep it in the order, and I, 700 01:38:01.295 --> 01:38:02.925 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think it's not being… 701 01:38:02.925 --> 01:38:03.565 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Donuts. 702 01:38:03.565 --> 01:38:18.145 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I know, that's on purpose. Let me do my typing, and then we'll go from there. Okay, okay, got it. Okay, so, Commissioner, Bono, I have you first. It's Jollyman, Varian Wilson, so if you can give me your ranking for Jollyman? One. Okay, very. 703 01:38:18.145 --> 01:38:18.885 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conf Room): Marianne? 704 01:38:18.890 --> 01:38:26.079 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): 3. Wilson? 2. Okay, it's deduction. Okay, Commissioner Swamy? 705 01:38:26.085 --> 01:38:30.735 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): 3, Wilson 2, sorry, Variant 2, Wilson 1. 706 01:38:30.740 --> 01:38:31.460 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you very much. 707 01:38:31.465 --> 01:38:34.704 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Stanek? Gentleman 1. 708 01:38:34.920 --> 01:38:37.449 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Varian 3, Wilson 2. 709 01:38:37.450 --> 01:38:38.950 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Fantastic. 710 01:38:39.090 --> 01:38:40.030 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sheriff? 711 01:38:40.710 --> 01:38:46.540 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Wilson 1, Charlemagne 2, Variant 3. 712 01:38:47.570 --> 01:38:49.070 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, and vice chair. 713 01:38:49.400 --> 01:38:54.289 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Dollyman won, Wilson II variant link. 714 01:38:55.220 --> 01:39:01.769 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, I think you guys are going to enjoy this process. 715 01:39:01.775 --> 01:39:05.435 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): All three, I heard. That's okay. 716 01:39:08.410 --> 01:39:13.670 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, the way it went, was we have a tie. 717 01:39:13.670 --> 01:39:15.010 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, this is enough! 718 01:39:15.015 --> 01:39:17.915 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Why don't have a type of number one? Why, let me… 719 01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:21.850 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, sorry, I didn't… 720 01:39:21.855 --> 01:39:22.575 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So you have ties. 721 01:39:22.580 --> 01:39:25.130 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): 1.6, 1.6… Because she averaged because. 722 01:39:25.130 --> 01:39:30.859 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): So it pulled it down. No, but… 723 01:39:30.865 --> 01:39:50.194 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, just a second. So, when we do this, again, no, maybe let me bring it up again. So, when we do this, it should be a binary. I'm not sure whether the average node will work, because if there are three ones, by default, that gets it. 724 01:39:50.195 --> 01:39:53.325 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): It should be 3… actually, accounts should be 3, like, you know. 725 01:39:53.325 --> 01:40:10.914 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, I think when there are three, it's called a weighted average, you know, once get weighted more, because what you're doing now, in terms of surveys also, this is not what you're calling as a… this is a relative ranking, it is not, interval ranking. 726 01:40:10.965 --> 01:40:32.995 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): So what you should be doing at this point is what, Carolyn has done is exactly right. Now, what I would suggest is… has clearly gotten eliminated. Now, I think what we can do is talk about and discuss Jollyman versus Wilson. We can just rank those two. No, what I'm saying is rank them, but at least talk about one. I see. 727 01:40:32.995 --> 01:40:41.235 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, it's okay. Okay, if that's what everybody agrees with it, I don't have anything specific, but I thought it'll go by a binary one. 728 01:40:41.235 --> 01:40:47.935 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): be binary, because it's not binary, it's 3, and so it's not… it's not equal to the same. 729 01:40:47.935 --> 01:40:48.755 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah. 730 01:40:48.755 --> 01:40:57.375 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): this is not the right way to touch this way, we are assuming that one is a point for Jollyman, two is two points 731 01:40:57.375 --> 01:41:14.195 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): for the, for variant. 3 is 3 points for Wilson. We are not… we have not given those points to those parks. It's the sequencing, it's, like, numbering. So, with that in mind, the way we should see is how many ones Jollyman got. 732 01:41:14.195 --> 01:41:24.754 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): How many ones Varian got? How many ones Wilson got? Based on that, we should come up with the final. Yeah, I think… No, I don't think necessarily. 733 01:41:24.755 --> 01:41:27.405 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): That is true, because in surveys… 734 01:41:27.405 --> 01:41:46.594 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): in Likert scale, you… that's not… you're talking about weighting one significantly more than waiting two. That's not true. Because even in elections, when you look at it, sometimes the distant second or the distant third gets it because of the split voting. So here, it is not… that argument is not valid, because in 735 01:41:46.595 --> 01:41:54.245 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): in surveys, when you rank 1, 2, and 3, it… what Karen has done is exactly right. So… so, just… okay. 736 01:41:54.640 --> 01:41:59.560 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let's do… again, my understanding, I understand you were rated. 737 01:41:59.700 --> 01:42:04.470 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): when I say a rank, I thought it's the stack ranking. That's what I thought. Yeah. 738 01:42:04.475 --> 01:42:18.755 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): the chair, I think you guys are making it way complicated, because we mentioned 3 times Charlamond, that was 3 out of 5. That tells you the sequencing. If we're going to go through the mathematics, I can give you also one… 739 01:42:18.755 --> 01:42:21.225 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let's, let's break. 740 01:42:21.230 --> 01:42:37.759 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): to what Commissioner Bono said, let's do one process of elimination. So, variant clearly got eliminated. Correct. So, we now have Jollyman and Wilson. Correct. In terms of arguing about the methodology, let's talk about what is the criteria? That's okay. No, we should be able to discuss that. 741 01:42:37.760 --> 01:42:42.730 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): what should be the criteria? And the number one criteria that I see is it should be a young family park. 742 01:42:42.730 --> 01:42:51.290 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, Jollyland already has so many things going for it, and the other thing I really concur with what staff, Carolyn was saying is 743 01:42:51.680 --> 01:43:08.900 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Jollyman has inclusivity, it has basketball, it has a really good play structure. Wilson doesn't have all of those benefits, so it might be good to try to push some traffic there as well. But more importantly, think about it. What is the criteria for them? They want traffic of young kids. 744 01:43:09.150 --> 01:43:19.300 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, Jollibon is surrounded by single- family homes, whereas Wilson has this multi-high density, which tends to be young families going to schools. 745 01:43:19.400 --> 01:43:31.450 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, if that is the criteria for Santa Clara to be funding this, then we should at least be respectful, because they are giving the money to us, and what's the criteria, ultimately? Yeah. 746 01:43:31.455 --> 01:43:48.515 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Swami, I agree with you all. Even when I voted, I voted Wilson as the number one, Jollyman as two. You disagree with that? No, sorry, let's go to Swami. The reason I put in asphalt is to, see 747 01:43:48.515 --> 01:44:02.244 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): okay, can I bring in a new item to a park which is deprived of many others? Exactly. So, that's the reason I voted. When I say that, I voted Wilson number one, Jolly number 2, very. 748 01:44:02.245 --> 01:44:08.384 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): But I still… I… when I go through the… that's my individual work, right? When I run it collectively, when it comes. 749 01:44:08.475 --> 01:44:11.995 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I thought we were doing a stack ranking of 1, 2, 3, that's right. 750 01:44:11.995 --> 01:44:14.154 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Discuss, at least, because, 751 01:44:14.155 --> 01:44:26.175 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's okay, so we can discuss, I don't want to disagree, but I'm trying to find out, is it a stack ranking or averaging? So, maybe remove the variant now, so assuming that… so now Jollyman Chair… 752 01:44:26.175 --> 01:44:42.695 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): through the chair, the reason why I was saying earlier the way we… about the trail for Wilson, because at the end of the day, the traffic is the most important component here on the decision maker. Where do we have the most babies? Or younger? 753 01:44:42.695 --> 01:44:44.315 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Good. Full Senate. 754 01:44:44.315 --> 01:44:48.715 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Originally, per day does. No, it's because, currently. 755 01:44:48.715 --> 01:45:05.994 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): But they have an apartment complex. It's right there between, you know, and a future high-density housing. It's built also within walking distance to the Wilson Park. Yeah, correct. Mainly, like, currently the United Furniture Store and, you know, not to mention the high-rise. 756 01:45:06.235 --> 01:45:09.734 Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's all within walking distance. 757 01:45:09.735 --> 01:45:19.524 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Maybe to answer to that one, just to respond to the one I voted, the reason another one is that now there is a bridge connecting between the 758 01:45:19.525 --> 01:45:22.105 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): The track… the… the walk… 759 01:45:22.105 --> 01:45:43.214 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And to the parks that I see that kids, I mean, people come around, because it's through a long walk, they come and spend time with the kids and go, so this could be an attractive, and there is not much. That's one of the reasons, the rational behind me picking a bullseye over Jollyman. Again, I'm not saying that you should not the other way. 760 01:45:43.525 --> 01:45:56.275 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): getting the most usage, right? And there are kids over there. That's why I just felt that with all these criteria, and the fact that Wilson has pretty much nothing compared to Jollyman Park… Got it. Okay. 761 01:45:56.275 --> 01:46:03.025 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I want to hear from Commissioner Stan. Please, everyone gets an opportunity. Thank you. Thank you. As I… 762 01:46:03.025 --> 01:46:04.605 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Look at what… 763 01:46:04.705 --> 01:46:23.694 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): you had for Wilson under the considerations. You said it's tight to fit 17 cranes, so that's a concern. Baseball causes a parking issue. That's a concern. I don't think that's an issue as much at Jollyman. That's okay. I think… Yeah, yeah. 764 01:46:23.700 --> 01:46:24.890 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): He's fine. 765 01:46:25.570 --> 01:46:36.559 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): On the plus side, you had the community gardens, which is very limited. How many spots do we have at community gardens there? 8. 15? Okay, and those are mostly adults. 766 01:46:36.570 --> 01:46:55.440 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I just think, you know, Jollyman, because we've made a commitment to be inclusive, and I understand, you know, I don't think, you know, the way you had it, young families is good, and young families are coming to Jollyman, but again, to provide something to the inclusive populations. 767 01:46:55.650 --> 01:47:01.870 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think is just so important, and as we look at other programming later, we can 768 01:47:02.180 --> 01:47:12.039 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): we can look at Wilson for that. But I really think this is an opportunity for us to enhance what we've done. 769 01:47:12.040 --> 01:47:27.050 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): with the inclusive, and this is just so important for those people who don't have that opportunity. And that's why I put Jollyman number one, even though it has a lot of things going on there, but I think, 770 01:47:28.070 --> 01:47:30.319 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): You know, just a second. 771 01:47:30.325 --> 01:47:35.554 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll go away, I'll come to you. So, Commissioner Sheikh, please. She was amazing. 772 01:47:35.555 --> 01:47:48.815 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I've been a frequent visitor to Jollyman, and Commissioner… I'm sorry, Chair Marupan and myself, we were there at the inaugural function as well when they upgraded it, and you were there too. 773 01:47:48.935 --> 01:48:06.315 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): We see that so many kids and families and adults, they come from outside of that area. So all of… all Cupertino residents go to Jollyman, because it's easily accessible, and also it has the inclusive park. 774 01:48:06.315 --> 01:48:16.605 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it is newly upgraded, and there are lots of community gatherings happen in that park. So that park attracts a lot of Copatino residents. 775 01:48:16.605 --> 01:48:29.514 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Even people from Wilson Parkside or the other parks, they come to Jollyman Park these days. So, from that angle, Jollyman Park would serve more Cupertino residents than any other park. But that's also the reason. 776 01:48:29.515 --> 01:48:31.035 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, just a second. 777 01:48:31.815 --> 01:48:32.545 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): moving the chain. 778 01:48:32.550 --> 01:48:44.570 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): on one park, having all the facilities, and you're ignoring the other park, so that's all the more reason to make it more egalitarian, so more people will go to other parks rather than everybody… Johnson is a small park, relatively. 779 01:48:44.575 --> 01:48:56.534 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think it's better you have to fund all three. We don't have to fight on this one. At least two. Not three. We are so greedy. We're not so greedy. 780 01:48:56.540 --> 01:48:59.130 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): On my other proposals? 781 01:48:59.130 --> 01:49:04.990 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So let's go to Council. Commission that, 782 01:49:04.990 --> 01:49:14.549 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Lindsey's trying to state notes, so… no, no, no, that's fine. If we can just keep to one speaker at a time, that would be helpful. We're already at 10 to 9. 783 01:49:14.555 --> 01:49:17.515 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, we need to close it in, like, 5 minutes. Let's go ahead. 784 01:49:17.515 --> 01:49:30.774 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll just throw you all a curveball, because at the end of the day, yes, Joelman was upgraded, updated, and all of that. That's actually maybe a reason why Wilson should get it, so that… 785 01:49:30.775 --> 01:49:46.624 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): if one is super successful on his own, why do we have to bring this Land there? We need to bring it to the second one to keep each park a little bit more… I understand everything you're saying about inclusivity, but I don't want to go into exclusivity. 786 01:49:46.695 --> 01:50:06.314 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): It has to be a little bit everywhere, so that offers different parts, opportunities for everyone to survive or to be known for. Therefore, I respectfully changed my vote for Wilson number 1, Jollyman number 2, and Varian number 3. Thank you. No, no, I mean, it's… 787 01:50:06.315 --> 01:50:09.614 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because I have the free visiting. Okay, so… I think I agree. 788 01:50:09.620 --> 01:50:26.790 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I know, it's… no, I'm not changing it, so I just went with the same… my original comment on why I picked the Wilson is that, okay, we have given… I was part of the Jolly Man Inclusive, it's all great, it's fantastic, they have enough things to explore for the next one year or two, because too many… Wilson is dry. 789 01:50:26.810 --> 01:50:34.219 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I wanted to see how it was to help. That's the rational behind my voting, to bring something towards them to do it, and just to make… 790 01:50:34.220 --> 01:50:50.980 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): A lot of people from Wilson will not go to John Liman, except for that one, because it's far away for the little one kids to go from there. That's the rational behind my voting, but I still go with the process. I don't want to influence anything, I just want to state my rational. But now, with this, irrespective of 791 01:50:50.980 --> 01:50:54.830 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): in your new process. Looks like… Wilson… 792 01:50:55.080 --> 01:51:00.550 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, the lower is the better. 793 01:51:00.555 --> 01:51:08.114 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Wilson, Jollyman, then Varian, which I believe we've kind of ruled Varian out at this point. 794 01:51:08.120 --> 01:51:08.720 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. 795 01:51:08.725 --> 01:51:15.615 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, I think, unless otherwise there are any comments… oh, sorry, go ahead, Commissioner Spanak. So… 796 01:51:15.620 --> 01:51:23.730 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Could we give our recommendation to the Council that… that Wilson is our first and Jollyman is our second? Yes, absolutely. 797 01:51:23.735 --> 01:51:24.374 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because you never. 798 01:51:24.375 --> 01:51:32.184 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): know some, around 15,000, you get it for us, or we get it too. They're trying to persuade. 799 01:51:32.190 --> 01:51:33.710 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): recommending variant. Correct. 800 01:51:33.710 --> 01:51:49.029 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): We are not recommending variant, and we are going with the recommendation… I'm just summarizing it, we're going with the recommendation of Wilson being the first one we picked out of the three, and if we have more funding, either the city provides, or Santa Clara County provides, we'll go second as John. 801 01:51:49.035 --> 01:51:54.344 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conf Room): could decide something different. Yeah, it's a recommendation. It's a recommendation. 802 01:51:54.345 --> 01:51:58.855 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I know that there was support from the Commission for Jollyman as well. 803 01:51:58.855 --> 01:52:01.815 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Totally, I wanted to make sure. That's a ranking. 804 01:52:01.815 --> 01:52:04.795 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): But we do need a motion. Motion. Second. 805 01:52:04.795 --> 01:52:15.904 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll make a motion to approve Wilson Park as the number 1, Jollyman Park as the number 2, and Varian as number 3. And I will second. 806 01:52:16.405 --> 01:52:19.694 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Bonnet. Thank you. Commissioner Schreman. 807 01:52:19.845 --> 01:52:23.364 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Stop. I'd like to. 808 01:52:23.530 --> 01:52:32.699 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, I think we need to do a second, and then you'll do another, right? She seconded it. So now, looks like there is a substitute motion. 809 01:52:33.050 --> 01:52:35.229 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, please, finish your time. 810 01:52:35.235 --> 01:52:42.125 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I would like to make a motion that the Commission had the most support for Wilson, had… 811 01:52:42.485 --> 01:52:46.394 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): also support for Jollyman, but not as much, and did not support. 812 01:52:47.495 --> 01:52:50.605 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): As… as the location for this event. 813 01:52:50.605 --> 01:52:55.675 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so the only… maybe let me rephrase it. So the only correction… 814 01:52:55.675 --> 01:53:00.495 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, I'm not agreeing, I'm just saying that we have staff ranking. I would like… 815 01:53:00.635 --> 01:53:04.165 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): There are storyboards in all of them to have money. No, I think. 816 01:53:04.165 --> 01:53:11.444 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think, maybe let me, let me rephrase, and please, Commissioner Stanek, help me out on the, amended motion, is… 817 01:53:11.935 --> 01:53:19.735 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): to the same, first and second, but the third, you don't want it, even if the money comes, or that's not in the rank. Well… Is that… 818 01:53:19.735 --> 01:53:25.755 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think the recommendation to the Council is that variant is not, 819 01:53:25.755 --> 01:53:27.194 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Fireball, but not in the fire. 820 01:53:27.195 --> 01:53:40.775 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): We didn't really just talk about it that much, but it is in the corner of the city, it's away from… it's not as accessible. It has more… a lot more downsides, so I think, you know, since we don't. 821 01:53:40.775 --> 01:53:43.735 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): money, I'm not going to argue that… Oh, no, I'm not talking about… 822 01:53:43.735 --> 01:53:44.515 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Hall of Fame. 823 01:53:44.515 --> 01:53:45.275 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): No. 824 01:53:45.275 --> 01:53:46.004 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't… 825 01:53:46.010 --> 01:54:01.749 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): respect, if I can make one comment. Again, we're here to pick… There is not a motion, there is not a second or a third on the table, so therefore that comment does kind of make sense, because it's only one that is considered… No, we're giving our recommendation. 826 01:54:01.755 --> 01:54:05.634 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): our input to the council. Right, right, and it was, yeah, the request was to. 827 01:54:05.640 --> 01:54:06.949 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conf Room): To, to rank the… 828 01:54:06.955 --> 01:54:07.715 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): 3. 829 01:54:07.715 --> 01:54:11.815 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): My recommendation is not to say that we don't approve Bavion, but to say that… 830 01:54:11.820 --> 01:54:12.500 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): I would… 831 01:54:12.505 --> 01:54:24.234 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I would say that we… that we survived the council with the vote, that there were 3 votes for Wilson, 2 votes for… for Jollyman, and none for Varian. 832 01:54:24.915 --> 01:54:27.144 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, I figured… 833 01:54:27.150 --> 01:54:31.650 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think maybe if I correct it, which is, can you retract your. 834 01:54:31.655 --> 01:54:49.665 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): substitute motion, and I'll do a substitute motion. Please do. Okay, I'll make a substitute motion to provide the pros and the cons, but with the comments assigned to it, so that it can give Council clear understanding as to why we did the ranking. Yes. 835 01:54:49.670 --> 01:55:02.330 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I would like to… I would like to propose that you add one more thing, because we don't want variant neighborhood to think that we are ganging up against them. We just are ranking it based on the limited reporting. 836 01:55:02.335 --> 01:55:11.334 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): your comments, because the fact of the tennis court with noise, which will impede concentration on the storyboards, is the factor as to… 837 01:55:11.335 --> 01:55:15.854 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): We're saying it, but they're not saying that we don't have money, don't put it. Like, if you have money… 838 01:55:15.855 --> 01:55:16.845 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, so much stuff. 839 01:55:16.845 --> 01:55:19.574 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, we are still in the… okay, we have to make… 840 01:55:19.575 --> 01:55:21.875 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): with his subsidiary motion, I think it's easier. 841 01:55:21.875 --> 01:55:26.664 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Looks like one more comment, and then we will go on the motion. So, I… Claire, looks like. 842 01:55:26.665 --> 01:55:39.885 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Clearly, Molly said that we are going to just give rank of these three. We're not going to say, eliminate Marion or something. So, is it enough to just give the council 843 01:55:39.965 --> 01:55:52.724 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): The rent from Parks and Recs, which is 123, Wilson, very. And then, I think, yeah, I think, and then, Library Commission will take it from there. 844 01:55:53.345 --> 01:55:54.105 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's just honest. 845 01:55:54.105 --> 01:55:58.605 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, just a second, which is similar or exactly the same? 846 01:55:58.605 --> 01:56:00.145 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): to do it, let's do that. 847 01:56:00.145 --> 01:56:03.155 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let me, let me clarify. That's the same motion what generally… Yes. 848 01:56:03.155 --> 01:56:09.114 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm just giving the reasons why we selected with the comments behind it. That is really my motive. 849 01:56:09.115 --> 01:56:15.895 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, let's… So, it is the same motion, so can you repeat that motion again? We will go on the second. Keep it simple. 850 01:56:15.895 --> 01:56:16.655 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah. 851 01:56:16.655 --> 01:56:20.495 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'd like to make a substitute motion. Can you make just one moment? 852 01:56:20.500 --> 01:56:21.270 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sweet. 853 01:56:21.750 --> 01:56:33.850 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Wilson Park as number one, John Liman number 2, Varion number three. We have the pros and cons, the feedbacks that we provided as to why we came out to that decision. Excellent. 854 01:56:33.855 --> 01:56:36.124 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Second it. Second. So, staff… 855 01:56:36.445 --> 01:56:48.174 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Since this is a… this is a… okay, maybe let me want to clarify it. See, there is only one motion, and you substituted your own motion, so we don't… we just voted on that, correct? On the second substitution. 856 01:56:48.175 --> 01:56:48.914 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): On the second sub. 857 01:56:48.920 --> 01:56:52.310 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Constitution motion is the only one. The Constitution motion did not get a second. 858 01:56:52.375 --> 01:56:57.715 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So… This really is the substitute motion that… 859 01:56:57.715 --> 01:57:05.304 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): On the original one we had. So we are voting only on the substitute motion now, so staff can say please. Commissioner Bono? Aye. 860 01:57:05.445 --> 01:57:06.795 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Standic? 861 01:57:06.795 --> 01:57:14.525 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes. Commissioner Swamy? Yes. Vice Chair Strikens? Yes. Chair Kamaricom? Yes. Motion carries unanimously. Yes. 862 01:57:15.175 --> 01:57:21.575 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. 863 01:57:21.580 --> 01:57:23.790 Quinlan Conf Room: As we do. 864 01:57:23.790 --> 01:57:34.350 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): transition. We're also a couple hours into the meeting. If the chair would entertain a 5-minute break. Why not? Sure. 865 02:04:45.390 --> 02:04:48.490 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, just now that we're. 866 02:04:48.495 --> 02:04:58.165 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): 905, and so I'd like to try and keep, our conversation, you know, focused on topic at hand, so that way we can get through the balance of the agenda. 867 02:04:58.165 --> 02:04:59.745 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sure. Excellent, thank you. 868 02:04:59.745 --> 02:05:08.145 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, before even I said that I have a meeting on stop at 9.30. If it is not, WestJet will take over. Correct. Thank you. 869 02:05:08.595 --> 02:05:17.084 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So now we're going back onto the… the one which we pushed out. Correct. Thank you for staying by, staying by. I know it's not… 870 02:05:17.155 --> 02:05:29.834 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I know, we didn't mean anything to put you there to listen to everything. Appreciate it, truly, thank you. This is the, item number 2, Parks and Recreation Department Marketing and Communications. 871 02:05:29.835 --> 02:05:38.594 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And the recommended action from us is to receive it, listen to it, the presentation on this one, but there's no action item at all, just listen. Correct. 872 02:05:38.595 --> 02:05:39.374 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, as you know. 873 02:05:39.375 --> 02:06:04.014 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): when you approved your work plan for this year, one of the things that you found of interest and that we would like to deliver, to the Commission is to have each one of our program areas come in and make a presentation. It helps with your learning, it helps with giving us feedback on how we're doing. And so tonight, we are very lucky to have, Brent and Kurt with us here. He is our marketing team. 874 02:06:04.015 --> 02:06:10.774 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Pretty much. So, we do have one and a half, folks in that unit, so… 875 02:06:10.775 --> 02:06:20.195 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Brandon is the only full-time employee, and does, a pretty amazing job, and I think you'll be very impressed with what he has to share this evening. Thank you. 876 02:06:20.525 --> 02:06:26.324 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): We are always impressed with that. Thank you. So good evening, Chair, Vice Chair, and Commissioner. 877 02:06:27.070 --> 02:06:33.700 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I'm gonna walk you through how the curriculum Parks and Recreation uses a coordinating marketing effort. I'm sorry. 878 02:06:34.050 --> 02:06:40.980 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Coordinating a marketing effort to reach residents throughout programs and events and guide them from awareness and participation. 879 02:06:42.490 --> 02:06:57.659 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, I'll go ahead and start with the recreation schedule, which serves as a cornerstone of our marketing efforts. Published quarterly, or the schedule highlights a wide range of classes, programs, and events, and is mailed directly to more than 2,300 residential addresses. 880 02:06:58.000 --> 02:07:06.380 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): In addition to the printed version, the schedule is also available as an interactive digital brochure, and it's featuring every Parks and Recreation marketing. 881 02:07:06.580 --> 02:07:14.130 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Each digital, edition averages more than 37,000 views, which is up 10% from the same 882 02:07:14.550 --> 02:07:19.229 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): say, a period of the previous year. And, 883 02:07:19.670 --> 02:07:25.749 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sorry. Yes. Oh, and that average was 33 that previous… or 33,000 that previous period. 884 02:07:25.750 --> 02:07:45.669 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Embedded links primarily directing readers to, registration pages for programs and events, generates more than 4,400 clicks per edition. This helps residents quickly find and register for activities and events and programs, and that's an increase of 18% from the previous year. 885 02:07:45.750 --> 02:07:55.229 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Each edition is also down a little more than 400 times, showing that residents continue to use the schedule as a planning tool beyond the initial mailing or email promotion of it. 886 02:07:57.550 --> 02:08:14.010 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Now we'll move on to the website. So many of you know we update our website in December of 2024, so we've had it a little over a year and a half now. We've seen excellent growth across the Parks and Recreation webpages since then. 887 02:08:14.010 --> 02:08:22.519 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): The redesigned layout has helped increase the visibility with the Patina Parks and Recreation webpages, making up 15 of the top 20. 888 02:08:22.520 --> 02:08:36.029 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): 15 of the top 18, if you get rid of those, the last two there. The low balance rate also suggests that the improved organization and layout is helping residents find activities, events, and services they're looking for on the webpage. 889 02:08:36.030 --> 02:08:50.130 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): And over the 12-month period, so this would be May 2025 to April 2026, the Cupertino Parks and Recreation homepage saw nearly 27,000 visitors, which is about 74 visitors a day. 890 02:08:53.110 --> 02:09:08.680 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Display marketing. So, to amplify the visibility of key programs and events, we use a variety of display marketing methods to reach residents in city facilities, parks, and other community spaces. We leverage the city's internal TV screens in areas like City Hall, Quinlan, and 891 02:09:08.680 --> 02:09:21.000 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): community hall. These digital, displays feature rotating messages that are updated regularly to highlight, current offerings and upcoming events. We also use banners, A-frames, posters. 892 02:09:21.470 --> 02:09:40.100 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): in strategic locations throughout the city. Many of these materials include QR codes, which allow community members to easily access registration pages, event information from their phones. For larger campaigns and events, we place banners in highly visible locations to reach residents as they move through the community. 893 02:09:42.260 --> 02:10:02.230 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Next is social media. So, social media continues to expand our reach, build community interest, and support promotion for parks and recreation programs and events. We have an active presence across multiple platforms, including two Facebook pages, one dedicated to Parks and Recreation as a whole, and then one dedicated to McClellan Ranch Preserve. 894 02:10:02.230 --> 02:10:08.699 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Through Facebook, we also run paid, paid campaigns to increase visibility of key programs and services. 895 02:10:08.920 --> 02:10:28.289 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): From May 2025 to April 2026, the Parks and Recreation Facebook page generated nearly 17,000 clicks, which is up 24% from the previous year. And the page also received more than 10,000 visits, which was up 5, and more than 2,300 interactions, which is up 23%. 896 02:10:28.290 --> 02:10:46.730 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): in the previous period. The one metric that did see a little bit of a decline, was the number of new page followers, we saw. During that period, we saw 435 new followers over a 360-day period, which is down roughly 4% from the previous period, so it's… 897 02:10:46.730 --> 02:10:50.780 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): 15, 20 people, so… pretty close. 898 02:10:51.420 --> 02:11:06.939 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, new, oops, new this year is a dedicated Instagram page. So much like Facebook, Instagram gives us another way to tell the Cupertino Park Recreation story, especially through photos, videos, event highlights, and community moments. 899 02:11:06.940 --> 02:11:20.419 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): In its first month, we've generated nearly 2,200 views, or 22,000 views, and reached 10,000 accounts. We've received 397 interactions, and this was… 900 02:11:20.530 --> 02:11:27.959 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): All this data's from the middle of last month, so just in the last, like, 3 weeks, we've… those numbers have all increased a lot. 901 02:11:29.740 --> 02:11:40.190 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, email marketing. So, email marketing still continues to be one of our most effective tools. Its adaptability, direct reach, and cost effectiveness keeps it highly relevant, and it's 902 02:11:40.280 --> 02:11:57.480 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Consistently delivers some of our strongest engagement across all of our platforms. We use emails to share the monthly newsletter, promote events, highlight some programs. We also maintain segmented lists for specific audiences, allow us to target message more effectively and efficiently. 903 02:11:57.480 --> 02:12:13.300 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Currently we send two monthly e- newsletters, one focused on general Parks and recreation updates, and one specific for the Cupertino Senior Center. From May 2025 to April 256, the Parks and Recreation e-newsletter achieved an 82% engagement rate, which is… 904 02:12:13.300 --> 02:12:20.810 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): To… with nearly 15,000 subscribers, an increase of more than 3,000 subscribers from the previous year. 905 02:12:20.810 --> 02:12:34.709 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Senior Center's, e-newsletter, has a 72% engagement rate and saw nearly… it has almost 1,500 subscribers, which is… which saw its largest jump in this last year. 906 02:12:35.830 --> 02:12:54.939 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Our largest jump in years since last year. Together, these two email lists have some of the highest engagement rates in the entire city for our email list, with the only exception being the block leader, and that's only got 100 people, and was very engaged. So, in addition to the monthly newsletters, we send targeted emails to the 907 02:12:55.080 --> 02:13:08.500 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): specific groups. So if we've got a team event, we're sending an email to teams that we have. If we have, say, Food Fund, we're emailing past Food Fund participants to let them know that a future date's coming up. 908 02:13:08.820 --> 02:13:12.150 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): On that slide, under teens, you've got… 909 02:13:12.625 --> 02:13:18.564 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): 1,40 subscribers. It says it's up 3,043, which is… Oh, that is… 910 02:13:18.565 --> 02:13:25.844 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): That is definitely a typo. I don't have that number. It just looks like… 911 02:13:25.845 --> 02:13:28.424 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): He got pulled over, made a home. 912 02:13:28.430 --> 02:13:45.089 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, so the team list, the big number's correct, the smaller number, off the top of my head, typically that list grows by a couple hundred each year. That sounds awesome. There's a couple hundred each year with kids going to college and stuff like that, so… Are you calculating the engagement rate? 913 02:13:45.300 --> 02:13:46.620 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): through. 914 02:13:46.620 --> 02:13:49.730 Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conf Room): engagement rate. So, let's… if it's… No, can… 915 02:13:50.095 --> 02:13:54.975 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): You just choked, can we… Yeah, if you can finish it, then we'll come to it. 916 02:13:56.430 --> 02:13:57.490 Quinlan Conf Room: I'm ready. 917 02:13:59.000 --> 02:14:17.619 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so, next is specific to adult 50- plus outreach. So, for adult 50-plus, we use a mix of print, digital, email, and bi-monthly communication tools to share senior center offerings. The 50-plus scene is included in, the quarterly recreation schedule, so it's part of that, printed and digital version. 918 02:14:17.620 --> 02:14:28.729 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Which is… and that's mailed to the 2,300 residents, and this… having it in the recreation schedule helps keep the senior center programs visible to a broad community. 919 02:14:28.730 --> 02:14:32.879 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Not just the 50-plus population. It also, 920 02:14:32.880 --> 02:14:45.680 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, it's also available online as a digital magazine. In August 2025, we mailed targeted membership drive postcard to 2,600 Cupertino residents that have adult 50+. 921 02:14:45.680 --> 02:14:54.689 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): living in them, just before this Lupertina Senior Center annual house. So the goal of this was to introduce or reintroduce the center to 922 02:14:54.690 --> 02:15:13.680 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): the 50-plus community and hope that they would stop by and see what's… what's new at the Senior Center. That outreach is supported by e-newslet… monthly newsletters, registration, event reminder emails, bi-monthly calendar, bi-monthly activity schedule, social media posts, program, 923 02:15:13.700 --> 02:15:15.979 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Programs and member experience. 924 02:15:18.640 --> 02:15:34.909 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, next we'll go to that each, each marketing channel has its own role, but the goal is all the same. So, it's helping residents simply from becoming aware of an opportunity to actually participating in that opportunity, and ideally coming back and 925 02:15:35.000 --> 02:15:39.300 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Participating in more future activities, that would be awesome. 926 02:15:40.680 --> 02:15:41.980 Quinlan Conf Room: I'll go back one. 927 02:15:42.940 --> 02:15:45.579 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oops, too, go back. There you go. 928 02:15:45.780 --> 02:15:58.069 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so next we're going to go through to awareness. So through awareness, we make sure residents know what's available to them. So this is tools like the recreation schedule, signage, social media, the website, this helps us highlight… 929 02:15:58.300 --> 02:16:15.600 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Helps us… helps us highlight and reach people where they already are, so whether they're seeing it online or walking into a facility, they're seeing it post in their feed, and we want the residents to see the program and event and think that that looks interesting to them, or they didn't know that the city offered that. 930 02:16:16.400 --> 02:16:21.820 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, next… So, after, awareness, we look at building interests. 931 02:16:22.930 --> 02:16:33.880 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): This is where strong visuals, program, pages, and emails features become important. We're also not just telling people that something exists, we're giving them a reason to care and show why it's worth their time. 932 02:16:36.309 --> 02:16:48.770 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then next is registration, so once someone is interested, we want to make sure it's as easy for them to join us. This means direct links, QR codes, call to actions, reminder emails. So, making it as easy for them to… 933 02:16:49.010 --> 02:16:51.960 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sign up and participate with us? Is it costly? 934 02:16:53.400 --> 02:17:11.879 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, and the next thing is a strong experience. So, this is by far the strongest marketing tool that any agency, can have. So, this is after you have a great experience, it's following with post-event communication, photos, storytelling, helping keep the residents connected beyond that initial program. 935 02:17:11.879 --> 02:17:27.810 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Overall, each of these channels don't act as separate efforts, they work together to guide residents through the same journey, with the goal of creating a positive experience of Cooperative Parks and Recreation, whether it's a camp, an activity, and then hopefully they take something else with us. 936 02:17:29.870 --> 02:17:38.700 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, by continuing to invest in, consistent sporting marketing, more residents will discover and participate in the Parks and Recreation program. 937 02:17:39.629 --> 02:17:42.249 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): And that concludes my presentation. 938 02:17:42.639 --> 02:17:46.610 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): Awesome. Thank you so much for that, I really appreciate it, and… 939 02:17:47.660 --> 02:17:51.899 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Really, really, a lot of members are popping up in a big way, so thank you. 940 02:17:52.170 --> 02:17:55.330 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Any clarification questions from the commissioners? 941 02:17:55.805 --> 02:18:00.544 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): I just want to know how… what are you calculating the engagement rate. So it's a. 942 02:18:00.545 --> 02:18:08.565 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): There's a bunch of different metrics, whether it's open, if it's a unique open, if it's open multiple times. 943 02:18:08.665 --> 02:18:11.124 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): How many things are being clicked on, if it's… 944 02:18:11.985 --> 02:18:27.725 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): So there's a lot of different, like… Yeah, yeah, so I can pull all that data and then basically take a look at it, and I'll get into kind of what the, like, engagement rates on this. Engagement is very high, impressive, thank you. Yeah. Thank you. 945 02:18:28.549 --> 02:18:32.609 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): If there's no clarification questions, is there any public comments? 946 02:18:33.159 --> 02:18:39.149 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have no speakers, Jim. Thank you, that will close the public comments, and any other comments from the Commissioners? 947 02:18:39.700 --> 02:18:55.280 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll just make one very brief. It's nice to see the, the pickup, and I'm part of that engagement, because I live on Instagram, so I'm part of that solution, but no, conflict solution, it looks like it's… the interest is there. Yes, exactly. 948 02:18:56.469 --> 02:19:11.859 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Awesome. Thank you. Again, overall, it's fantastic. I know it's… I don't know, it's a one-man army, they say, or one person, one and a half person, and still it is amazing. So, thank you, appreciate it. Thank you. You're bringing more awareness and connectivity to the community. Thank you. 949 02:19:12.969 --> 02:19:16.379 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, now the staff and commission reports 950 02:19:17.269 --> 02:19:25.219 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): I know last time we did it differently, but this time I need to go through it. First, it goes with the staff report, and then only it goes on the commission report, so… 951 02:19:25.389 --> 02:19:28.419 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Stuff, so… 952 02:19:28.424 --> 02:19:30.714 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Nicely, you may want to split one. 953 02:19:31.164 --> 02:19:34.194 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Hey guys, I don't want to fall over. 954 02:19:34.455 --> 02:19:41.375 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Keep in mind. So, staff, We do. Okay. 955 02:19:41.985 --> 02:19:45.025 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. Congratulations to… sure. 956 02:19:45.025 --> 02:19:55.004 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, fantastic. Thank you for the opportunity to give you a few updates since we last met. I'll go through Facebook, because I know that, 957 02:19:55.475 --> 02:19:56.575 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): PR. 958 02:19:56.855 --> 02:19:58.884 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Pretty… going pretty late here. 959 02:19:58.965 --> 02:20:10.805 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, first things first, since, our last meeting, the Council did take action on April 7th related with the Commissioner's Handbook. 960 02:20:10.805 --> 02:20:23.284 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, although you went through a training a few months back, there were some updates to the handbook, and that's been sent out to all of you in an email on Friday, May 22nd. 961 02:20:23.285 --> 02:20:42.974 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm hopeful that you've already had the chance to take a peek at it, and look at the revisions that have made. Specifically, there's been revisions in the sections related with commissions, membership, future agenda setting, recommendations and reports to City Council, and use of city email. 962 02:20:45.105 --> 02:20:58.005 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): There's also been new sections added on commission administrator, alternate members, board representation, hybrid meetings and remote participation, as well as the work plan. 963 02:20:58.005 --> 02:21:07.054 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So if you haven't already read through that, please do so, and if you have questions, it would be best to take those offline, and you can ask them directly to me. 964 02:21:07.055 --> 02:21:18.165 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then I'll make sure that you have, what you need to move forward and to work in… within the structure that the Council has approved for all of our commissions. So thank you for that. 965 02:21:18.735 --> 02:21:43.615 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Then I wanted to jump into, some things that are happening now that it's officially summer. Maybe not on the calendar, but from a perspective of weather and kids being, almost out of school. But Blackberry Farm is open for the season, and you can visit cupertino.gov backslash BBF calendar to see the full range of lap swim, recreation swims. 966 02:21:43.615 --> 02:21:48.484 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So unless it's picnic hours and all of the things that are being offered there this summer. 967 02:21:49.815 --> 02:21:58.894 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Next, I'm pleased to announce that the Summer Concert Series is back. We'll be, kicking off the series on Thursday, June 11th. 968 02:21:58.895 --> 02:22:11.194 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): The series does go until August 20th, and all of the concerts are held at the Memorial Park Amphitheater. Those take place from 6.30 to 8, and we have a wide range of 969 02:22:11.205 --> 02:22:27.464 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): bands that will be attending, whether you're into classic rock, blues, whatever tickles your fancy, it will be pretty much offered this summer, and you can check out that schedule online. Again, that's cupertino.gov backslash summer concert. 970 02:22:29.475 --> 02:22:47.734 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Then, this weekend, we have Splash Bash. This is something being hosted by the Youth Activity Board. It's a fun field day planned for youth and teens. It's meant to kind of kick off the summer. School ends tomorrow for many of the schools in and around the area. 971 02:22:47.735 --> 02:22:58.164 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it's a kickoff to some summer fun. It will take place on Sunday, June 7th, from noon to 3, here in Memorial Park, and it's gonna include 972 02:22:58.165 --> 02:23:13.604 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): you know, some water balloon, activity, some inflatables, some games, and for teens, Kona Ice is available for free for the first 50. So, not for adults, but for teens. 973 02:23:14.495 --> 02:23:28.104 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): We also have an intergenerational, activity, planned for Saturday, June 13th at Blackberry Farm Golf Course. It's called Golfing for Generations, get it? Four. 974 02:23:28.115 --> 02:23:36.984 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So it's designed for folks ages 5 and up, for all skill levels, and it's meant to be a unique tournament with a 975 02:23:36.985 --> 02:23:49.075 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): with an alternate format than what you're used to, to make it so that way it's even for youth and older adults. Registration is still being accepted at reg4rec.org. 976 02:23:51.415 --> 02:23:59.985 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Next, we have Disco at Desk. This year, this multi-generational, event, it has a… 977 02:24:00.455 --> 02:24:15.824 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Hollywood theme. The event's taking place on Friday, June 26th, from 6.30 to 8 at Community Hall. Each guest is going to receive a pair of wireless headphones with 3 channels that are playing different movie 978 02:24:15.975 --> 02:24:20.624 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): style themes. They'll be 70s and 80s. 979 02:24:20.785 --> 02:24:25.475 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): 90s to 2000, and then 2010 to present day. 980 02:24:25.475 --> 02:24:41.744 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So you could switch the channels, throughout the evening to find your groove. There'll be glowing lights, and all sorts of fun stuff, for folks of all ages. Again, this is an intergenerational activity, Friday, June 26th, from 6.30 to 8. 981 02:24:41.745 --> 02:24:45.175 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Registration is at reg4rec.org. 982 02:24:46.775 --> 02:25:07.965 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And definitely our, flagship event of the year is right around the corner, on the 4th of July celebration, and as everyone is, aware, this is, our birthday, 250th, year, so, very exciting to be celebrating that here in Cupertino. 983 02:25:07.965 --> 02:25:17.745 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): The day will start with a pancake breakfast at… here in the building at Quinlan from 8 to 11, and that's hosted by the Optimist Club of Cupertino. 984 02:25:17.775 --> 02:25:30.774 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Following breakfast, folks will head out into Memorial Park for a flag-raising ceremony, a children's parade, and children's activities that will begin around 10 near the Veterans Memorial. 985 02:25:31.205 --> 02:25:37.965 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): This year, we're also bringing back swimming, at Blackberry Farm Pool from 10 to 5. 986 02:25:38.195 --> 02:25:50.815 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then there'll be a concert at 10.30. The band is Fire Peach, and they'll be performing in the Amphitheater at about 10.30. There'll also be some children's games and that sort of thing going on. 987 02:25:51.385 --> 02:26:07.455 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): In the park. Of course, what everybody will be waiting for is the fireworks celebration that evening. It will start at approximately 9.30, and we'll have the same three viewing sites as we've had in recent years. That'll be Creekside. 988 02:26:07.455 --> 02:26:18.084 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sedgwick Elementary School, and then Miller Avenue near Bollinger Road. So, to learn more about this event, Cupertino.gov backslash July 4. 989 02:26:19.595 --> 02:26:37.404 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Next, I want to share with you that we will be hosting another Cupertino Campout. This is a July event. Since we are not meeting in July, I have a couple July things just to throw out there. So Cupertino Campout is Saturday, July 18th, beginning at 4pm. 990 02:26:37.405 --> 02:26:44.245 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it goes until Sunday, July 19th at 10 a.m. This event takes place at Creekside Park. 991 02:26:44.245 --> 02:27:00.945 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it's an opportunity for folks that maybe, are… want to be introduced to camping, or, don't have the ability to go too far. Kind of a, introduction to camping and a night under the stars filled with recreation activities throughout. 992 02:27:01.125 --> 02:27:20.115 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's a great way for, you know, family, neighbors, to gather and to meet new friends, and our staff will be programming things, to make sure that it's a memorable evening for folks. For this event, pre-registration is required, and registration will take place at cupertino.gov backslash Campbell. 993 02:27:21.825 --> 02:27:36.144 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Also a July slash early August, activity is Shakespeare in the Park. It, too, will take place in the Memorial Park, Amphitheater for the production of, Antony and Cleopatra. 994 02:27:36.145 --> 02:27:46.065 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And there's multiple dates, July 25th and 26th, and August 1st, 2nd, 8th, and 9th. All of those will take place at 6 p.m. in the amphitheater. 995 02:27:48.555 --> 02:27:59.934 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, because the movies in Park will start right as we are gathering next in August, I wanted to share with you that you have four movies planned, a July 996 02:28:00.495 --> 02:28:16.505 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or, excuse me, August 7th through August 28th. They're all on Friday evenings. That two will take place at Creekside Park starting at 8pm. The movie lineup includes Goat, A Bug's Life, Freakier Friday, and Superman. 997 02:28:19.205 --> 02:28:27.304 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, hopefully all of you got the email, sent, regarding the, Cupertino Community Service Awards. 998 02:28:27.305 --> 02:28:40.284 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm highlighting it here because I wanted to make sure that you marked your calendar, for Wednesday, October 28th. We don't have additional details quite yet. The period for, 999 02:28:40.285 --> 02:28:50.025 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): seeking nominations or applying for folks that might be interested does close July 7th, and you can find all that information online should you choose. 1000 02:28:50.065 --> 02:28:57.214 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): To nominate somebody, but for the actual awards banquet, we should have more information next time we meet. 1001 02:28:58.355 --> 02:29:13.174 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, last but not least, we are in full get-ready for summer mode. Most camps start on Monday, June 8th. We have a full list of camps available at cupertino.gov backslash camps. 1002 02:29:13.245 --> 02:29:27.685 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then we will be closed, as a city on Friday, June 19th, in observance of Juneteenth. We'll have our normal operating hours on that day, however, at Blackberry Farm Golf Course and at the Cupertino Sports Center. 1003 02:29:27.925 --> 02:29:36.974 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And last but not least, it's important to note that we will not be meeting on July 2nd. We will be, up to our eyeballs in July 4th prep. 1004 02:29:37.105 --> 02:29:45.704 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I know many of you travel during that time frame as well. So, our next meeting will be Thursday, August 6th at 7pm. 1005 02:29:46.095 --> 02:29:48.855 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, that concludes the staff report for this evening. 1006 02:29:49.495 --> 02:29:51.025 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. 1007 02:29:51.700 --> 02:29:54.670 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): take off, and I'd like to request it to… 1008 02:29:54.675 --> 02:29:55.435 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, can you… 1009 02:29:55.435 --> 02:29:56.154 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Share the screen. 1010 02:29:56.160 --> 02:29:58.010 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): with her, so we can… 1011 02:29:58.010 --> 02:29:58.530 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): finding it there. 1012 02:29:58.530 --> 02:30:02.419 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Fantastic. And keeping it there, and so winter. Okay. 1013 02:30:02.420 --> 02:30:02.949 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's the one. 1014 02:30:02.955 --> 02:30:06.505 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): There's 60 people waiting on the zone sound. 1015 02:30:06.695 --> 02:30:10.694 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, so… From here, in front. 1016 02:30:12.055 --> 02:30:13.114 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. Thank you. 1017 02:30:13.685 --> 02:30:14.615 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. 1018 02:30:15.465 --> 02:30:17.504 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): All right. Thank you, staff. 1019 02:30:18.260 --> 02:30:20.710 Quinlan Conf Room: Now it's time for our Commissioner Reports. 1020 02:30:21.540 --> 02:30:26.350 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Your turn to highlight the Parks and Recs Department facilities you may have visited? 1021 02:30:26.550 --> 02:30:30.059 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sharing Forks and Rec activities your work on there? 1022 02:30:30.310 --> 02:30:39.429 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): bring light to any city activities you have volunteered at, or any involvement you may have had pertaining to the Commissioner Road since our last meeting. 1023 02:30:41.290 --> 02:30:44.369 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Bodles? Nothing too good. 1024 02:30:44.800 --> 02:30:52.429 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I was out of the country. Commissioner Swami? 1025 02:30:52.430 --> 02:30:54.429 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Just went to a bunch of parks. 1026 02:30:54.610 --> 02:30:56.990 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): It was really nice, I think. 1027 02:30:57.250 --> 02:30:59.620 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): particularly joining us. Beautiful. 1028 02:30:59.890 --> 02:31:09.750 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): really upgraded, as the street side. All these parks have had a lot of love, and they're doing… driving, and the community is really benefiting. Awesome. 1029 02:31:10.680 --> 02:31:11.860 Quinlan Conf Room: Any comments? 1030 02:31:15.540 --> 02:31:17.230 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Future agenda setting. 1031 02:31:17.895 --> 02:31:21.854 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Actually, I do have one comment. In the future, agenda something, sorry, go ahead. Okay. 1032 02:31:22.205 --> 02:31:23.075 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah. 1033 02:31:23.315 --> 02:31:31.224 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): It doesn't have to be, like, this next one, but I think Minam brought up the point that, you know. 1034 02:31:32.455 --> 02:31:37.195 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Can we know the status of Lauren Smitty? Because she's been bringing me the given. 1035 02:31:38.275 --> 02:31:41.885 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): That might not be a bad idea to create that report. 1036 02:31:43.150 --> 02:31:49.060 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, I will, note on that, that we do have, 1037 02:31:49.090 --> 02:32:02.690 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm looking at our schedules so that I get it correct. So, obviously, at our last meeting, we had information about the CIP, and we had information about the different projects pending, which we got an update regarding Lawrence Mitty at that point. 1038 02:32:02.690 --> 02:32:10.529 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): We will have, later in the year, our Public Works Department coming to talk about facilities, grounds, and trees. 1039 02:32:10.530 --> 02:32:24.070 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): If there's an update at that time, I can have them include that. But I would say, for now, that, you know, your most recent update is pretty much where we're still at. Thank you. 1040 02:32:24.410 --> 02:32:25.250 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Alright. 1041 02:32:25.620 --> 02:32:28.609 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I have a question. 1042 02:32:28.615 --> 02:32:33.555 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): staff, when are community grants going to Council? 1043 02:32:33.685 --> 02:32:34.574 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): They're going to share. 1044 02:32:34.575 --> 02:32:39.605 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): same night as the fiscal year 26-27 budget, which is June 16th. 1045 02:32:41.225 --> 02:32:49.575 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right, and I've worked it out with the chair that he will be present. That doesn't preclude any of you from, you know, attending as well. 1046 02:32:49.575 --> 02:33:04.034 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): But, he will be available should there be any questions or comments on behalf of the Council for the Commission. Correct. 6 p.m. 6.45. I was just gonna say, I'd have to double check the time. 1047 02:33:04.035 --> 02:33:04.774 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's a regular… 1048 02:33:04.780 --> 02:33:05.910 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Maximally 16. 1049 02:33:05.910 --> 02:33:07.300 Speaker 18 (Quinlan Conf Room): 6. Yeah. 1050 02:33:07.975 --> 02:33:11.704 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): And my other question would have been, I would have… 1051 02:33:11.825 --> 02:33:21.504 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): suggested that we have… put on the agenda the pickleball policy, but it sounds like it's going straight to Council without us having an opportunity. 1052 02:33:22.525 --> 02:33:25.525 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): They haven't even put on their eyes up. 1053 02:33:25.530 --> 02:33:41.629 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, it's not an agendized item, so it's a little difficult to have that conversation here, tonight, but I will remind you that that's an operational item, and that the sound attenuation portion of that is something that was brought to this group. 1054 02:33:41.660 --> 02:33:54.760 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And that Council will be making a decision on at the June 16th meeting. So, following that decision, and or any input that the Council has, then we'll determine what the appropriate next steps are. 1055 02:33:58.670 --> 02:33:59.290 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): No. 1056 02:33:59.610 --> 02:34:01.729 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): If anybody has any others? 1057 02:34:02.440 --> 02:34:04.990 Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, right. John might. 1058 02:34:06.140 --> 02:34:13.740 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Our meeting is now coming to an end. I want to thank everyone for coming to tonight's meeting, and I'm thanking on behalf of, 1059 02:34:14.010 --> 02:34:17.810 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): share the marathon as well. As a reminder. 1060 02:34:18.110 --> 02:34:28.410 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): There is not a July meeting. Our next Parks and Recreation Committee meeting will be on Thursday, August 6th, at 7pm here in Finland. 1061 02:34:28.800 --> 02:34:34.570 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I now adjourn the meeting at 9.34 PM. 1062 02:34:36.330 --> 02:34:40.460 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. 1063 02:34:47.620 --> 02:34:52.760 Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you. I'm trying to ask you, because… Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. 1064 02:34:55.370 --> 02:35:04.460 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): You know, you've written the book, and I'm tired of… I've written the book. I think I told you already… No, I know you did, but I'm just… I was… no. 1065 02:35:04.460 --> 02:35:05.619 Speaker 19 (Quinlan Conf Room): I was reminded of this. 1066 02:35:05.625 --> 02:35:08.964 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): I always meant to ask you this question.