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Quinlan Conference Room: Okay. Hey, Jason, can you hear us?
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Jason Gonsalves: Can hear you. Good afternoon. Can you hear me?
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Quinlan Conference Room: We can hear you. As you move up, you can see
everybody. We are live?
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Quinlan Conference Room: Yeah, bye. Alright, hi Jason. Hey, Jason, what's
going on?
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Jason Gonsalves: Good afternoon!
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Quinlan Conference Room: Good, good, glad we're here. So, everybody
should.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do I have the agenda, or do you
want… Do I call the meeting to order? Or do I call the meeting? Okay. So
calling the, Legislative Review Committee meeting to order, today,
Monday, April 6th, at 2 o'clock… well, 2.11 p.m.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): At the gavel. Do we need to do a
roll call?
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Quinlan Conference Room: Thank you, roll call. Vice Mayor Chao? Here.
Councillor Wong? Here. All presents. President.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Bing.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, hopefully, as you know, this
is our first meeting, but we do want to get started with electing a chair
and vice chair.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Amongst the two of you, and that way
we have decorum for the meeting. So, wanted to start off with item one.
So first, we'll move to oral communications, but I'm not seeing any
members of the public in person, and I am not seeing any members of the
public.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Vietnam Conference, so we can get to
another one.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Excellent.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, item 1.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Selection of Legislative Review
Chair and Vice Chair for Calendar Year 2026.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I know there's only two of you,
but it is important to help set the agenda and to help kind of run the
meeting, so…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): No preference, what do you want to
do?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We want to set the agenda? Sure,
we'll have some fun.
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Quinlan Conference Room: legislative hat could be dangerous. So…
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Quinlan Conference Room: All right, with the election. Chair, Andre?
Chair, I need a motion. Motion? Or no? So…
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Just open it up to the public in
case any members of the public want to speak, but seeing none…
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. All right, so Joe needs. Okay,
so who, who motioned? I moved.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Alright, I'll suck out.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Seconded to a left. Are we doing,
vice Chair or Chair first? Chair.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): would be, together, I think. Okay.
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Quinlan Conference Room: Draymond will be the chair.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Liang Chan will be the vice chair.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, hey!
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So we'll do a roll call vote.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Vice Mayor Chao? Yes. Pastor Wong?
Aye.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Madison?
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, Chair.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): You can help us move forward with
the rest of the items, or… Sounds good.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): step far.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, let's see, oral
communications. Do we have any oral communications?
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Quinlan Conference Room: oral communications. Okay.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Seeing that we have none, let's move
to old business. Looks like there's none on the agenda. So, we've got new
business, we've done the election, and of course, let's establish the
meeting schedule. Let's take a look at the schedule.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so for item 2, we have a
legislative calendar, which we attached as one of the attachments there
for you, and we also attached a very brief staff report to kind of make a
recommendation. I did want to pass it on to Jason to speak a little bit
on the legislative calendar. He did help make those recommendations on
those meeting dates and the times to be strategic.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So Jason, if you want to kind of
outline those dates and what your thoughts on that?
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Jason Gonsalves: Well, the dates were really based around the calendar.
We were trying to have a meeting, another meeting around the June budget
before summer recess in July, a meeting,
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Jason Gonsalves: towards the end of session, kind of an August potential
update, and then a post-September
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Jason Gonsalves: 30th signing deadline, so we were looking at an October
date for that as well. So, that was really the thought, was trying to
pick
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Jason Gonsalves: key… Intervals of the legislative session and recap.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Makes sense, and what… should we
choose one or two days where we bring public with us on a trip up?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): to Sacramento?
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Jason Gonsalves: Absolutely, and we can… we can work… we can be as
flexible as necessary, but typically, we would advise a Tuesday or
Wednesday.
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Jason Gonsalves: For… I'll call them… Developing a presence, if you will,
building a…
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Jason Gonsalves: telling Cupertino's story, and the reason Tuesdays and
Wednesdays is, Mondays, members come in mid-morning, they have floor
session, and Thursdays, they typically leave mid-morning, so Tuesdays and
Wednesdays are better for
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Jason Gonsalves: For the travel time, and getting the right audiences.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Got it, sounds good. Do you have a
standing reservation at Frank's Fatz anywhere?
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Jason Gonsalves: We can definitely get you one.
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Jason Gonsalves: And, and it is, it is a client favorite, as you… Duly
noted.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Just asking, just wanna know, that's
all. Asking for a friend, Liang, of course.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, what time, what time is a good
time to go up to Sacramento?
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Quinlan Conference Room: Yeah, what would be a good thing to pick up? I
mean, mouse.
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Jason Gonsalves: Boop.
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Jason Gonsalves: if we would want to do it before August 31st, obviously,
because that's the end of session. We don't want to do July, because
they'll be on summer recess, so I would say between now and middle of
June would be ideal.
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Jason Gonsalves: And that's capturing members before we're really kind of
timing it while bills are in the house of origin, before they go to the
second house.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, like… I kind of want to… Yeah,
early June. I kind of want to take a delegation up, like, maybe if it's,
like,
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't know, like, June 9th or June
2nd, something like that. It's gonna be about the wildfire issue,
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): these high wildfire zones and the
fact where housing bills are actually conflicting with that, I think we
can get a delegation up there and bend some… bend some legislatures here.
I think Patrick Ahrens is also interested in that issue as well, so that
would help as well, so…
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Jason Gonsalves: The second or third would work well.
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Jason Gonsalves: either.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): June? Okay, so do… so you… you will
make a reserve.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I, I think…
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Jason Gonsalves: We… we would schedule the meet… go ahead, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I mean, we… our local legislators,
we can meet them anytime, right? So, do we want to…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Meet other legislators while we're
up there, not just our local ones.
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Jason Gonsalves: I would say both, and the reason being is if your
member… if you're in Sacramento and your members find out you're there,
you want to at least just drop by and let them know you're in town and
give them an update, and then we would also look to meet with the chairs
of the housing committee, it sounds like, and the emergency management
committees.
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Jason Gonsalves: You know, and the consultants.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Council meeting the next day, in the
afternoon, so maybe the 9th? That might be better? Yeah. 9th might be
better, because we have City Council on the 2nd.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So…
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Jason Gonsalves: But it… 9th works as well.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I'll just add that if both of
you do go to speak on legislation, we have to agendize it as an LRC
meeting. I think you remember, Vice Mayor, we've had issues before about
both of you, you know, not being able to talk about legislation
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): together. Like, you would have to
kind of split out, do your meetings, and then you do your meetings, and
kind of take a half-half approach for the day, just because both of you
make up the whole body of the… Understood.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then in terms of bringing
residents, we've never done that in the past before, so it'd be
interesting to maybe… I don't know if we would need to talk to the full
council about how do we decide which residents get to come.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): how do we… we do that? So we can
discuss further with the city manager, and I can bring… So will the other
homes.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Council members be able to own?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So the other council members are not
part of the legislative body, but obviously 3 or more make a majority.
But if…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): If it's a con… if we can make this a
council, city council decision to have a legislative day on… in
Sacramento, then how will that be arranged?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): have… it would be agendized as a,
basically, a council meeting day. We would have to probably, include the
location and the agenda of…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'd like to have a meeting location,
because it'll be running around. Right.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I don't know if I can ask the
clerks, like, in general, for Brown Act reasons, can the majority of
council go to Sacramento and talk about legislation
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Before, it's only been just two, so
they kind of…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So if we don't make it a day, it'll
be easier, and then we'll make it a day when we need to make it a day.
We'll just tell people to meet.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): State of his office to vote.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think, for example, CalCities have
their developer seat dates that
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): anyone can go. Basically, you could
have a majority of any city council that would be there, but I…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): But I guess it's hosted by another
organization. It's hosted by an external organization.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Correct. It's a little different.
Yeah, our council going up there, then yeah, it would need to be
carefully vetted by the city attorney's office that we're following all
rules. And we can discuss… I can discuss with Floyd and everyone, city
manager, and come up with some ideas.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So if it's too hard.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): For the first one, just… let's do it
the regular way. If it's… but I do want to involve the public as we get
closer towards, you know, the legislative session, because there's going
to be things they want to come up and talk about. It'll be good to have
them.
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Jason Gonsalves: And I would obviously yield to the City Attorney as
well, but I will say that we…
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Jason Gonsalves: with some… the LRC makes it a little bit unique because
you have the body, but we, with regularity, have legislative action days,
so we could call it a Cupertino Legislative Action Day, and, members
participate 3 or more. Oftentimes, we have entire mayor and council.
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Jason Gonsalves: In Sacramento meeting on issues, but it's…
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Jason Gonsalves: the city attorneys, pretty consistently, as long as
you're not taking official action, it doesn't violate the Brown Act. But
again, I would yield to the city attorney, but depending on how we frame
it, you could have a little more flexibility.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): There's no action, it's just
basically sharing our issues. I mean, there's nothing, like, going on.
And also.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): If, let's say, two council members
were to go that were not part of this body, so, like, let's say you and
the mayor were to go, that alleviates some of the Brown Act issues,
because she's not part of… well, I guess she is, because she's an
alternate, so never mind. Never mind.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): But yeah, so there's always
complications when you come to the majority of the full council or the
majority of this, but I can come back with some ideas at our next
meeting.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Though Monday is not a good day.
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Jason Gonsalves: Mondays are difficult because members are traveling in.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): something.
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Jason Gonsalves: And then they have floor session in the afternoons, 1
and 2 p.m.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And 26 is Memorial Day, so kind of
coming out of that.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, 2nd, 9… 16th, we have council
again. 23rd, we could try… Wanna do 23rd? No, it's.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Just, I have class Tuesday,
Wednesday, and Thursday. Oh, your classes. I'm sorry about that. Okay.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): class. Oh yeah, you're taking that
one class. Maybe you could be… we'll go.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, it could be the mayor and you,
yeah.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): They're all decided. Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I'm looking at these dates. Huh?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): All right, so I've made note of
that, potential Sacramento day. In general, in terms of the regular
meeting days, the dates on the staff report are today, obviously Monday,
April 6th, Monday, June 22nd, Monday, August 17th, and Monday, October
19th.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We wanted to keep them consistently
Monday. It's every other month.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): On a Monday?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Can you repeat the dates again?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, it's Monday, April 6th, Monday,
June 5th.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): After the budget adoption, right?
Correct.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then, it's also in your… it's
also in your pocket. Especially, we can plan for the legislative… Yeah,
we do want to help.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Move the June 2nd one to May, is
that what you want to do? Okay. Let's do that.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so page 8 of the packet has
the dates on there, so we can move, the meeting up today.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, right there. May 1st, is that
where we're moving that to? Around this time?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): May 1st would be the day… yeah, May
1st.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I first got it. Alright, cool.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): work for Jason, I want to make sure
we have our… Make sure everyone can meet, yeah.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Wait. Wait, what?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): June 1st.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, we're talking about May? May,
May. May 1st? Oh, okay.
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Jason Gonsalves: May 1st is a… Friday. Friday.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Alright, so let's do May 4th, 11th,
or 18th.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): The 11th of the Blue House Outage
Committee meeting. Outage Committee is also on Monday. May 4th?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't know what's the dates. I was
thinking…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The doctor.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): It usually meets on the 4th…
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): One day of the month, if I'm not
mistaken.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Memorial Day. Yeah, no.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): How about the 18th?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Team.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, for me, long day or Friday are
okay, so… We can do 18.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll be remote, right?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, yeah.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I actually can't have remote
participation for these… for these meetings. Oh.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): The Cora needs to be present.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, the quorum… so the major… the
majority of the body needs to be present, and the majority of the 2 is 2,
because… Oh, okay.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): We were doing remote before. How did
that happen?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Remote was… when everything was
remote for COVID, that's when we had that exception. Oh, that's gonna be
interesting. Okay. But remember, we do have an alternate who can attend
if needed, but, I would like for the chair to be here, obviously. Yeah.
So, can we do church first? Can we…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): June 1st? June 1st? Can June 1st
work for you, Jason?
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Jason Gonsalves: It does, better than the 18th, because my daughter's
getting married on the 16th, so I'll be traveling back.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, congratulations!
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Jason Gonsalves: Thank you. Excellent. Or condolences, I'm not sure which
yet.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Did we say May 4th? Is that not an
option?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Before…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I will not be in person.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The mayor wants to have it earlier
than… I mean, the vice mayor wants to have it earlier than later, right?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think it's… June 1st is too close
to the advocacy date, right?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Not necessarily. All the bills will
come into play, we can figure out what we need to do and organize in
time. A week is not… a week can move pretty fast.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, it's just a question of, like,
while we're ongoing, do things happen while we're not meeting?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, I mean… I mean, the
legislature's moving, but do things happen internally?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): There… will there be bills we should
take a position on before… like, sometime in May…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Other bills we need to take
positions on?
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Jason Gonsalves: There will be, and we have a few on the agenda today,
and we'll be advocating at your direction on those, and then we'll be
keeping you apprised of amendments and other changes between now and the
next meeting.
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Jason Gonsalves: So, the advocacy and coordination with Astrid and the
team continues throughout the year.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And the reason why we were
recommending June was because it's after the House of Origin deadline, so
after that deadline, a lot of bills die off, and we'll have a better list
after May. Right now, it's like, everyone throughout.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): bill, and now I gotta figure out,
like, what's gonna go through.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): help us narrow down.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): there are some Cal City-sponsored
bills that I thought we should support, but they are not on today's list.
Right. So I'm wondering how do we…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We're trying to make a strategic
selection for today.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): But, at the end of the meeting, we
have future agenda items, so we can propose items for the next meeting to
take positions on June 22nd.
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Jason Gonsalves: And we do have AB 1708, not to jump ahead, but that is
also sponsored by Cal Cities, and it's regarding housing and homeless
funding.
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Jason Gonsalves: So, there is some alignment on the recommendations.
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Jason Gonsalves: On today's agenda as well.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thanks.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So… Because also, if we do adopt
this schedule, we're always free to schedule a special meeting.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): We can set up a special meeting
anytime.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, are we comfortable with the
recommended schedule for now, and then can be flexible if something comes
up?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yes, I can make all those… Still
adding jokers?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): we are removing… well, yeah, we're
adding June 1st, we're removing June 22nd, right? So…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, so we're not doing June 22nd?
Was that the one we're showing?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): up, and wait, I think we were
showing up June 22nd somewhere, right?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): No,
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, we'll give me June 20th?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): a second? Yeah.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We are keeping June 22nd because we
need to get an update.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, we'll keep doing 22nd, got it.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): make that in person? Yes.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, Jason, we're sticking to the
recommended schedule that we're…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And it's wrong.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): as an action day. And June 1st?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): June 1st and… it's so close to June
9th, when we go to the action day.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So first, we will plan for July.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, we don't know that? Yeah, June
1st was for planning for June 9th, so… Oh, okay, okay. So the dates we
have are April 6th, that's just now, we have a June 1st date.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): We have a June 9th Advocacy Day in
Sacramento, and we have the June 22nd, August 17th, and October 19th.
That's the proposal for the schedule. And then June 1st is.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Just planning for the action day.
Okay.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's okay with you.
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Jason Gonsalves: Depending… And depending on… I just may want to throw
out, depending on the city attorney's advice.
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Jason Gonsalves: We may just want to do, outside of the LRC, a… depending
on how it's structured, we may just want to do a meeting to go over who
we're meeting with and agenda.
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Jason Gonsalves: for the June 9th visit.
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Jason Gonsalves: So that… depending on the city attorney, we may want to
do that outside of LRC, just a thought.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Makes sense.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, and we can… normally what
we've done is we meet together, we make a schedule, and then we'll send
it out to you all, and then we'll… we can… Yeah, you're…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): You'll let us know on June 1st what
the format read.
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Jason Gonsalves: And I would say we can plan, like… sorry, Esther, I
would say we could plan about 10 a.m. to 3 p.m, and… and have a…
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Jason Gonsalves: You know, a good agenda of a series of half-hour
meetings, and And obviously, lunch involved.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, I mean, get up there for
breakfast if we need to, too. Do you think that makes sense?
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Jason Gonsalves: Typically, members will have events in the mornings, and
so, you know, the earliest I would think we'll get legislative meetings
will be 9.30, plus or minus, so…
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Jason Gonsalves: Around that hour.
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Jason Gonsalves: But we can definitely, depending on traffic, we can be
flexible. You know, if you want meetings 11 to 4, or 11 to 2, or 10, 9.30
to 2.
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Jason Gonsalves: You know, we can definitely work around that.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yep.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, so calendar is moved, June…
Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, sorry, I just want to add, so
in-person meetings, 2 o'clock is fine, this time works for everybody, and
then, we can make a decision. Do we want to stay in Quinlan, or do you
have a preference?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): City Hall? Wait, are you guys on
that side? We're at City Hall, but… Yeah, let's do City Hall. It'd be
easier.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yep, it could be City Hall.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's closer to her house, too.
That's closer to her house, too. Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Sounds good, so I will… oh, we'll do
it… we need a motion. Chair, would you like to…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yep, I'd like to make a motion to,
public comment.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Aye.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): We should open up a comment for each
item, but I'm not seeing any.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Opening for public comment. We don't
see anyone for public comment. Okay. We will move on to the agenda. We'll
take the recommended, dates on the calendar, and amend and add June 1st.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then have a legislative action
day that would occur on June 9th in Sacramento, times to be determined.
And, do I have a second for that? Second. Okay.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Chaos. Vice Mayor Chao?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): As Chair, or sorry, Chair Wong. Aye.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): She carries the amnesty.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Number three, city legislative
process and 2026 legislative platform, have you reviewed that?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So this one, so I went ahead and
attached the informational memo that was published on March 13th.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): It just kind of reiterates what was
adopted by Council on February 19th, which was the final 2026 platform
and the legislative process. So, we're all well aware of our process now.
We have this meeting… these meetings coming up for the rest of the year.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): But I also attached the platform,
and if you guys remember, when we talked on February 19th, we made some
small adjustments, so…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): what's in your packet today and what
was attached as a final platform. You'll see when we get to the rest of
the bills, each of the bill reports mentions where in the platform it is
mentioned.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Again, if it's not mentioned in the
platform, it would need… we can discuss it, but we need to make a
recommendation to the full council.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): If there is a monitor.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Then we can also discuss it, but we
need to recommend it to the full council. And so you'll see today, one of
the bills, and I think it's the Fire Hazard Severity one, is a monitor.
So we're going to recommend a position to Council, but we can still
discuss it. So this is kind of our guiding document. I'm going to be
referencing it throughout all of our meetings, throughout the year, but
it's just a good
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): starting point, so I wanted to just
reiterate that. It's also on our website, all of our websites are
updated, so that is good to go.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And with that, there's no action
needed,
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Clerk for our… for that item.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, clearly out?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. Item number, 4, legislative
update, looking for your, update and input.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, for that, we've gone to?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): First of all, how did you get this
list? Is it based on our legislative platform? Everything we are saying
we would watch, or oppose, or support?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Or this is just a list that you are
watching.
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Jason Gonsalves: It's a combination of… it's a list of, kind of, the
higher priority local government, bills that either Cal Cities, contract
cities, a number of our client cities have been engaged in. We also had a
call, with the mayor on an unrelated issue, and the mayor had
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Jason Gonsalves: Inquired about a couple of bills, and on this list
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Jason Gonsalves: has a couple of those items, as I recall, as well. So,
it's been a combination of kind of reading what's moving at this time in
the legislature, and what we thought should be of at least noted for your
consideration for a possible position.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So this… this list does not include
all the items mentioned in our legislative platform.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Not necessarily, yeah, no. We didn't
go that line by line through the platform. This is kind of a combination
of, like Jason said, from Cal Cities. Also, staff internally tracks all
of these bills already, like, all the time. So this is kind of our
internal list.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): But it's a combination of those, and
as I mentioned, I think, in the city manager's letter, anytime you guys
send those over to us, we will add it to this list, and we will keep
growing. It'll keep growing, right? The more we get from you, you can
send it to Jason, or you can send it to me, and then we'll add.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, and then another question is,
in the previous LRC meetings, we had requested a list of bills different
organizations are taking position on, or what monitoring.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that, that… I tried to look up
for a list of field positions from CalCities.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): They are not posted on their website
anymore. There used to be a place where I could get all the lists.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And somehow I didn't find… maybe
it's there, but I didn't find it.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I remember we… we were watching
the Planners Association, because they sometimes have, take good
positions on city planning. And we were watching also, like, California
in B-List.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So… we also get that bill list.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): on… So… these organizations.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): What do you think, Jason?
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Jason Gonsalves: And in addition, I mean we… I recall doing that, and
oftentimes their positions either weren't noted.
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Jason Gonsalves: For example, Cal Yimby, or they were…
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Jason Gonsalves: opposite of the city's and local governments' positions.
So, we can provide those, but in addition, what we've been providing your
management team on a weekly basis is
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Jason Gonsalves: our weekly reports of bills we're tracking and watching
at your direction, but also a report on bills that our other client
cities have positions on. That way, it kind of narrows down where local
governments are focused.
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Jason Gonsalves: And the reason I say our other client cities is they're
all small and medium-sized cities, similar to Cupertino, rather than, you
know, what Los Angeles is watching, per se.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think we want to watch for CalMB,
because a lot of bills they are pushing affect us. We want to know where
they are up, what they are up to.
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Jason Gonsalves: Yep.
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Jason Gonsalves: Understood. We can, going forward, start providing… I… I
think Cal YEMBY has, kind of, their hot bills, or their priority
legislation list, and we can…
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Jason Gonsalves: Going forward, start providing you a summary of those as
well, for sure.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, that would be great, and,
like, especially CalCTC, we have a… I think they have a list of sponsored
deals,
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yep.
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Jason Gonsalves: And they, they kind of do hot meals as well, so
absolutely.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, they've got a bunch of new
bills that are introduced right now, so most of them are really about
affordability, which we're not gonna go against.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): But I think there's a number of
bills that are gonna… like, if I was in an urban environment on the way
they're doing RDA, I mean, that's the one that probably will be
concerning. We don't have that issue at the moment, but there are
implications, so… That's the only one I flagged earlier, as I was looking
at that.
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Jason Gonsalves: Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, the CalMV site on legislation
is a good resource to look at.
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Jason Gonsalves: It'll show you what they're trying to do to you.
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Jason Gonsalves: Yes.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah.
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Jason Gonsalves: Absolutely.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's like the Chinese say, it's good
to know your opposition. Opposition can be better than yourself.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So we'll work on adding that with
the next agenda. I did want to give Jason the floor to give a general
update. Okay.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah. Sorry, we jumped in.
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Jason Gonsalves: No, it's all very helpful as we start to rebuild this,
process, so thank you. I'll be very brief, just kind of where things are.
I guess the good news is the legislature was on spring recess last week.
Potentially the bad news is they're back, and, and they're back.
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Jason Gonsalves: With 1,800 bills that were 1,798, to be exact.
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Jason Gonsalves: That were introduced by the February 20th deadline. And
I know the dates become kind of, like, too many dates, but none of… most
of the bills did not become eligible until 30 days after introduction, so
on or around March 20th.
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Jason Gonsalves: And the reason that's key is now that the members are
back, they have between today and April 24th for all bills to get out of
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Jason Gonsalves: the fiscal committees, so they have to go through policy
committees, and… I'm sorry, to get out of the policy committees by April
24th, and out of the fiscal committees by May 15th.
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Jason Gonsalves: So, things are going to start moving very quickly, and
then the House of Origin deadline, which is probably the main date to pay
attention to, is May 29th. So, as we discussed, you know, visits and the
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Jason Gonsalves: subsequent LRC meetings, those are… May 29th is a key
date, because we will see which bills are moving to the second house and,
and moved out of the fiscal committees. So things are…
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Jason Gonsalves: the next month and a half, two months are going to be
moving very quickly. All of which is kind of coupled, and I know it's
political, but it's also coupled in, and part of the process is the
governor's race. It's taking a lot of
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Jason Gonsalves: attention for no surprise in Sacramento. As you know,
there's 8,
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Jason Gonsalves: Democratic candidates to Republican candidates, and no
one seems to really be a frontrunner at this time, which is creating
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Jason Gonsalves: a lot of interest on both sides for various reasons.
And… and one other,
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Jason Gonsalves: thing I would note is… On the staffing… The staff report
as…
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Jason Gonsalves: Astrid have mentioned, and that is…
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Jason Gonsalves: I know we're jumping to the bill, but AB2517 on the
fire, I know
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Jason Gonsalves: Councilmember Wong made mention of a visit, but…
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Jason Gonsalves: I also expect a big piece of the fire regulations and
discussions this year will be trying to require, California's
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Jason Gonsalves: Fire insurance to cover All, insurance, not just fire.
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Jason Gonsalves: So, you know, expanding it, because right now, if you're
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Jason Gonsalves: on the California Fair Plan, you have to also have
additional coverage for your other coverages and belongings, and there's
an effort to require California Fair to provide all insurance. Now, at
what cost and impacts is yet to be seen, but another thing to
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Jason Gonsalves: Just a note.
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Jason Gonsalves: So…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's going to increase insurance
costs for everyone? For everyone.
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Jason Gonsalves: Potentially, yes, and more than likely, yes. I mean,
insurance costs are, as you know as well as anyone, they're skyrocketing
throughout the state, if you can even have the private companies
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Jason Gonsalves: If you're lucky enough to have them be willing to write
you a policy, and then the fare plan, they're looking at potentially a
30% increase this year, is what the numbers we're hearing.
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Jason Gonsalves: So… but it's all part of the…
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Jason Gonsalves: The hope is to try to ensure that
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Jason Gonsalves: The fair plan is providing adequate coverage, not that
you have to have multiple plans.
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Jason Gonsalves: But… but you're right, Madam Vice Mayor, it'll be…
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Jason Gonsalves: The costs are just… they're not going down, that's for
sure.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Don't think that's smart.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Got it.
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Jason Gonsalves: Until they contain the costs, it's… There's really
nothing…
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Jason Gonsalves: I don't know that there's any relief absent cost
controls to the consumers.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, the problem on the insurance
side is they haven't been able to curtail costs. They're trying to spread
the cost to everybody, and they're using the fire hazard as a way to
actually dupe everyone by raising everyone's premiums, and then taking a
cut from there. So, if there's anything like that, I probably would not
be…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): supporting that, because that's
going to create an issue. What we will have is conflicts that are going
to be related to fire zones and, HCD.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, and…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Telling people to choose between
living in a fire zone and having no mitigation and adding more density in
an area that's riskier is really what they're trying to force us to do.
And we just did that last week.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, are there… So, are there any.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think there is already a mechanism
where you can form a fire district where the locally, they can
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): pay for mitigation for fire danger.
Could those be used to cover, for example, insurance costs for an area,
so that they… everyone who lives in the area pays fee, they can then get
the coverage for that, for every house in the area.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that it's a way to pay for fire
insurance collectively.
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Jason Gonsalves: I know there's kind of Firewise community processes
where you can develop a Firewise community, and you take certain steps to
notify the residents, and it's almost like forming an HOA to address
fires, and insurance companies will consider
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Jason Gonsalves: you know, Firewise Communities, oftentimes as part of
their policy premiums.
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Jason Gonsalves: I don't know if there's a way in current law, I will
look into it as to whether or not
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Jason Gonsalves: those firewise communities could collect
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Jason Gonsalves: call it an HOA-type fee to buy down insurance premiums,
but… I will definitely look in.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): In case anyone is building in a fire
hazardous zone, and they are not following all the, like, 30-foot
setback, which was a big issue we had.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then they are reducing it to 10
feet. Maybe then, if they want to do that, they should pay a certain fee
for this Firewise community district.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I am.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): about it that way, but I think the
issue on last… the issue last week was the fact that the fire department
did not do their job and go through three items that they should have
gone through, which was your… which was the issue. So, it was your 1490
and 1491 were not done properly. So, they didn't do the examination, so…
but I don't disagree with you here.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Isn't it there?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): responsibility, though, to…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): who we… our responsibility was… It's
not their responsibility.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): ability to make an AB130
determination. No, but we…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): It was our responsibility, too, but
they… 2 out of 3 items were missing.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Anyways, needless to say, you can
create a fire zone, but I… let's go through each one of the bills while
we have them. Are you done with your portion, Jason?
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Jason Gonsalves: I am, unless there's any additional questions, but I'm
done, thank you.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So we have four items here, that we
are… you can either choose a position, choose not to take a position, or
choose… well, yes, basically. 4, not nothing against.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I thought we were supposed to get a
lot.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Are you going to go through the list
of deals? Well, there's 45.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Phil's on that list, so…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Highlight on these bills?
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Jason Gonsalves: the four that there's recommended positions, if it's
okay with the committee, I'll be happy to walk through them.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Let's add to it. I've got to leave
at the top of the hour, so that's why. Oh, so you'll need to.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): I need to leave a 3? I need to leave
a 3.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. So that's why I wanted to make
sure we got the four that was on the agenda, but then let's go back and
find the ones that… if there are certain ones you flagged, because I
flagged a bunch as well, so,
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, let's… okay, item number 5,
consider adopting a position on Assembly Bill 1751. This is the Middle
Town Home Ownership Act. Adopt or oppose a position AB 1751, and
authorize the mayor to send letters, to state legislature.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): This is the one where… Go ahead. I'm
sorry. You know the bill better than I do.
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Jason Gonsalves: I was just going to be very brief. This bill seeks to
establish, and it's part of a growing trend, right, buy right around
transit last year, buy-right on ADUs. Now, this bill is a effort to
establish buy-right zoning approval, for townhomes.
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Jason Gonsalves: And it's being opposed by Cal Cities as well as local
agencies throughout the state, and that was…
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Jason Gonsalves: the rationale and reason… I mean, it obviously can
create a number of local zoning complications, so that was the reason for
recommending opposed.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, do you have a position on it?
I'll make…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Voting to oppose.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): the grill.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I would second that. I'm actually in
agreement with you. I don't want any buy-right housing. We still need a
review process. That would be what I would put into the notes.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So you will prepare the letter?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, make a motion to, oppose this
bill for AB 17, and authorize the mayor to send a letter to the state
legislature.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yes?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, I think I motioned his second.
Okay.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): She motioned, I second, that's fine.
Okay. Bye, sir. Aye.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): You're the vote.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Sure.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I. Okay. Alright, we gotta move.
Sorry.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Sorry, I'm a very… I'm a very
efficient meeting guy.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Let's move to number 6. There's no
public comment, so we have no public comment. Let's move to item number
6. Consider recommending position AB Bill 2517, the Counter on Fire
Safety Fire Hazard Severity Zones. Recommended action is recommend that
the City Council adopt a support position on AB 2517 at the next City
Council meeting. Let's go to staff report.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll just start by reiterating that
this is the bill that we can't right now, take a position on, because the
platform says monitor. So, I'll let Jason introduce the bill, and then we
can make a recommendation to the full council to take a position, and I
can add it to the, you know, the next meeting, April 21, or the next.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Makes sense.
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Jason Gonsalves: And the bill is really… the key piece is requiring the
state fire marshal, when they adopt high-hazard fire risk zones, to
conduct public outreach within 180 days, and have a 30-day public comment
period for the public to weigh in to
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Jason Gonsalves: the process and the designations of high, moderate, or
low fire risk zones. So it's… it's really trying to
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Jason Gonsalves: include… well, it's trying to ensure the State Fire
Marshal has some transparency within the process, and include those that
are affected by that process as part of a public comment period.
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Jason Gonsalves: So it's… there are local governments throughout the
state supporting it, and
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Jason Gonsalves: the staff recommendation is to recommend support to the
mayor and Council.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Jason, do you expect a lot of people
to tag on to this one? This looks like the one that's gonna have a lot of
riders on it.
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Jason Gonsalves: No, I… I… we're already seeing local… particularly local
governments throughout the state supporting.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): But is this sufficient, though? I
mean, they're always open for comment, you submit comments, they ignore
it.
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Jason Gonsalves: Yeah, well, and… How the process will work, and, and,
you know.
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Jason Gonsalves: the hope and intent is for them not to be able to ignore
it and to statutorily require them to at least have a public outreach
process that right now, you know, oftentimes your constituents are
learning about these maps and zones after they've already been adopted.
So it's trying to…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): They always go have public comments,
people submit comments, I think they…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Let's quite past that.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): process. I would make a suggestion,
not for minutes or the notes, to… let's just set up a meeting with Josh
Becker and a meeting with Patrick Aaron to have them and grab their
support for the bill and come at it through that way. So, which would be
much more effective. Would you agree with that, Jason? Let's take a
local…
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Jason Gonsalves: It would be very helpful, absolutely.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do we all currently, have,
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Show the methodology they use to
identify those zones.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't know, but we can work with
them. Let's work with their staff on this.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We need to know how they identify
those zones, and then we can provide input on the methodology they use.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Rather than at the tail end.
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Jason Gonsalves: Yes, it makes a lot of sense, and…
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Jason Gonsalves: as Councilmember Wong noted, I think reaching out to
Becker and Aarons and our firm can help with that as well.
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Jason Gonsalves: Makes sense.
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Jason Gonsalves: A lot of sense.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do we recommend this board to put on
the council agenda, to take a position… to take a support position,
right? Yeah. So that's the motion?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Any question?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The recommended action is recommend
that the City Council adopt the support position.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. Make the motion? I'll make the
motion.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): won't you? I'll second it. Do we
have public comment?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): No public comment here. Okay,
alright.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Vote. Chairman Chow? Chair Wong?
Aye.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Cheers.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Alright, and then as an action item
to staff, let's set up a meeting with Josh Becker and… like, a virtual
meeting with Josh Becker and Patrick Ahrens on this.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And we could probably do.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): to avoid, you know, agendizing a
proper meeting, we can just meet with the chair? Sure. Sure, okay.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, Jason, maybe I'll follow up with
you on that.
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Jason Gonsalves: Sounds great.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Let's go up my lane.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, item number 7, consider adopting
a position on Assembly Bill 1708, Homeless Housing Assistance and
Prevention Program, the SOLISH bill. Adopt a recommended action, adopt a
support position on AB 1708, and authorize the Mayor to send letters to
the state legislature.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't know. What are you on this
one? Have you read that?
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Quinlan Conference Room: You can have Jason give it…
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Jason Gonsalves: Yep, AB 1708 is a Cal City-sponsored bill, surprisingly
enough, because it's them pushing for eligibility for more cities than
less. Currently.
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Jason Gonsalves: It's really the big 13 cities that are gobbling up, for
lack of better terms, the housing and homelessness funding, and this bill
would require up to $500 million, to go to communities under 300,000
population, so it…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's amazing. Got it.
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Jason Gonsalves: you know, eligible for something they currently are not.
Whether you decide to apply for the funds or not, it's obviously at the
local discretion, but it… right now, the money's just not getting too…
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Jason Gonsalves: all the communities.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's actually a very interesting
bill, just from the mechanics of it, because what you're doing is there's
more small cities than large cities, but the large cities are moving
faster. And it actually… it's actually pretty cool, because it's… it's
almost kind of like the reason we have a Senate versus a House, right?
It's just… it's… it's kind of like your state's rights and your…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): population rights versus your number
of votes per state. So, it's actually pretty interesting. So, are the
counties.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): is getting no funding? Because for
us, these kinds of homeless services are actually provided… At the county
level, yeah.
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Jason Gonsalves: Tonies are… Counties are eligible, yes.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We don't have the personnel to
provide those services. We can't deliver the services.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So… So the current counties are
currently, eligible for those funding.
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Jason Gonsalves: They are for this funding, as well as additional
homelessness funding, but this would also make the city eligible if you
wanted to do something in coordination or, you know, in concert with the
counties,
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Jason Gonsalves: It's up that possibility.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We do pay for contracts with West
Valley and the county right now, so if it can go to Haiti for contracted-
out services, then it would still be a benefit to the city.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We can support, and it's our
decision whether we want to apply or not. Correct, yeah.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): It at least makes us eligible, which
is… The hurdle. So, motion?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, I'll make a motion to adopt a
support position on AB 1708 and authorize the mayor to send letters to
the state legislature, but is there any public comment? No? Yes. Okay,
alright, there's my motion.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Is that good? Aye. Vice Chair Chow?
Aye. Chair Wong? Aye.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): All right, item 8, consider adopting
a position on Assembly Bill 1674, Aaron's Food Affordability Act, adopt a
support position on the recommended actions, adopt a support position on
AB1674, and authorize the mayor to send letters to the state legislature.
Over to the team, staff.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Jason, you wanna introduce it?
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Jason Gonsalves: Absolutely. Ab1674, it's obviously your assembly member,
it's the author, it's seeking to protect, if there's new development, to
protect larger parcel sizes,
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Jason Gonsalves: Food deserts, if you will, to ensure that development is
not
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Jason Gonsalves: Taking away space that otherwise could be for
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Jason Gonsalves: To address, grocery store needs within a region.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I spoke with Assemblymember Ahrens
yesterday. There are two parts to the bill. One part is that. The second
part is, if you've got existing retail there, and when you build, I think
he's trying to find ways to make sure the existing retailers are still
there when you come back. And I think that's the legislation. So, I can
support it, but…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Should be, how do they.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): define the food desert.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): within how many square, miles?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): trying to prevent a food desert, but
I don't know if he defines the food desert in that… in the bill,
actually. But, yeah.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So this doesn't apply to every
development, it's only those that you can identify as food deserts. No,
he's trying to prevent a food desert.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): He's not identifying food deserts.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Let me read that again.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): be applicable for development within
food desert. So, they have this additional requirement.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): There's one piece where he… if
you're in a food desert, they're trying to make sure that they put retail
in there. Yeah, so how should they find food desert?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right, and at least here it says,
any new housing development proposed in a food desert or at risk of
becoming one. Yes, positive.
442
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Jason Gonsalves: And it's defined under the Food and Agriculture Code, as
noted under 65913.17 of the bill, and so it's in current law, but it's
defined under 49031 of the Ag Code.
443
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:19.400
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, so there's already a definition.
444
00:47:19.405 --> 00:47:22.075
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): There is a definition, but I'm not
sure if that's the right definition you.
445
00:47:22.080 --> 00:47:22.910
Jason Gonsalves: what?
446
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I did…
447
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't know which one.
448
00:47:25.425 --> 00:47:30.225
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Also, what do they mean by large-
scale grocery store?
449
00:47:31.205 --> 00:47:41.245
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I… also that what we have seen
with Palo Alto is, even if they kept the space, the grocery store.
450
00:47:43.615 --> 00:47:49.485
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Post down, and they couldn't find
another replacement, right?
451
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:57.800
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): to replace. Or maybe they're…
because they charge a much higher rent than a grocery store can.
452
00:47:58.110 --> 00:47:59.220
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): can't afford.
453
00:47:59.820 --> 00:48:08.770
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so right here defines large
grocery store, meaning a retail store of 15,000 or more square feet. That
is a retail seller of groceries. Yes.
454
00:48:08.775 --> 00:48:12.715
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): incentive for them to keep,
455
00:48:13.055 --> 00:48:27.984
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): key to sustain retail stores, for
example, by reducing the rent, so that they can continue to operate in
this full desert area. Is there anything in there that provides gifts?
456
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yes.
457
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Jason Gonsalves: Yes, Section 49041 of the bill, Subdivision 3, talks
about the department being able to provide rental or down payment
assistance for a facility that is located within a food desert, and then,
458
00:48:45.330 --> 00:48:52.200
Jason Gonsalves: There's grant funding pursuant to that same section for
rent support and assistance as well under the bill.
459
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Grant funding, but not the develop…
not the property owner.
460
00:48:58.770 --> 00:49:03.150
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): The property owner is not
responsible for providing
461
00:49:04.460 --> 00:49:17.320
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah. Yeah. So the… I think the
property owner should be responsible, because if they charge a really
high rent, people can rent, and now you want the government to subsidize.
462
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:25.549
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): For this property owner who charges
a higher than market rate for a grocery store.
463
00:49:26.860 --> 00:49:43.860
Jason Gonsalves: I don't disagree. There's been legislation in this
space, rent control-type legislation. It's very difficult. There were two
bills late last session that failed on rent control, even for housing, as
well, because of the private property rights questions.
464
00:49:43.870 --> 00:49:49.689
Jason Gonsalves: But your point's a very good one, and they're trying to
address it by way of providing assistance.
465
00:49:49.830 --> 00:49:55.940
Jason Gonsalves: To get a… to address it without having a fight over rent
control.
466
00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:02.929
Jason Gonsalves: Oh, your, your points… Very good, because it's… it's one
of the dynamics they are trying to grapple with.
467
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's fine, so I think we are in
step 3, so let's make the motion.
468
00:50:13.010 --> 00:50:17.199
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, but we should also follow up
with Patrick as well. Yeah. We should follow up with him and get him.
469
00:50:17.205 --> 00:50:23.385
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We did get a request specifically
from his office, Requesting to support this, so… Yes. Fair.
470
00:50:23.390 --> 00:50:35.470
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll make a motion to support
position on AB 1674 and authorize the mayor to send letters to the state
legislature. We have a second? Second. We have no public comment, do we
second?
471
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, Vice Chair?
472
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Aye.
473
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Challen? Aye.
474
00:50:40.255 --> 00:50:50.264
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. And let's go back to your
point, I think there's a future agenda setting. I think there's a number
of items, Mayor, Vice Mayor, that you want to add?
475
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): You should have a seat.
476
00:50:51.115 --> 00:50:54.264
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): agenda setting, I can… We do! It's
part of the agenda.
477
00:50:54.270 --> 00:51:08.109
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): We do. It's part of our agenda. Last
item. Yeah, we do. So, if you want our… if there are items on the
legislative calendar that you want to bring over, are there items that
you want to bring over from the legislative calendar? Are there certain
bills that you had highlighted? Because I've got a few.
478
00:51:08.120 --> 00:51:17.430
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): That you might want to add to the
future calendar for the next meeting. Or we can do it in the next
meeting, too, as well. If there's anything pressing that's going to
happen in the next few weeks. Oh, I don't…
479
00:51:17.435 --> 00:51:19.675
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): have… you have any? Yeah, I do.
480
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Actually, let me pull some, so…
481
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:24.660
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): You gave me some good reading last
night.
482
00:51:24.665 --> 00:51:26.705
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm glad.
483
00:51:26.705 --> 00:51:27.485
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): For me, it's… it's.
484
00:51:27.485 --> 00:51:35.135
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think I sent the email, the
written communication, just a few things I learned from the Revenue
Taxation Committee.
485
00:51:35.305 --> 00:51:38.045
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And they really want support.
486
00:51:38.155 --> 00:51:41.175
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): for SB922?
487
00:51:41.375 --> 00:51:44.595
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): A bill sponsored by CalCities.
488
00:51:45.325 --> 00:52:01.224
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): that would clarify and reaffirm
local authority related to the recovery of street maintenance and repair
costs associated with providing essential public services. I think, this
is especially
489
00:52:01.225 --> 00:52:10.634
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): For some cities, it seems their
garbage trucks is damaging the road, and then there is some clarity of
whether the city can
490
00:52:12.195 --> 00:52:14.365
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): kids,
491
00:52:14.605 --> 00:52:21.705
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): can, ask for funding to repair their
roads. So it's trying to clarify the city can do that.
492
00:52:22.130 --> 00:52:24.799
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Interesting. Is that a bill? That's
not a bill on here yet. It's…
493
00:52:24.805 --> 00:52:26.675
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Now, you submitted it.
494
00:52:26.680 --> 00:52:28.160
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, okay.
495
00:52:28.160 --> 00:52:30.979
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's on the list. It's on the list.
496
00:52:30.980 --> 00:52:31.870
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): on the…
497
00:52:32.025 --> 00:52:47.434
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, yeah. And the second one that…
this is smaller, but it's SB1005, I don't know if it's on the list. It's
a tiny, it's called a penny, penny rounding bill.
498
00:52:47.435 --> 00:52:48.385
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's on here, yep.
499
00:52:48.390 --> 00:52:49.990
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): The rounding amount, yep.
500
00:52:50.090 --> 00:52:51.370
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): That Kelsey D.
501
00:52:51.375 --> 00:52:56.205
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): You for it? Hmm? You want to round
up?
502
00:52:57.095 --> 00:53:03.444
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): They are not producing pennies. If
you don't round up or down, you… you… how do you pay?
503
00:53:03.765 --> 00:53:06.205
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Electronically. Electronically.
504
00:53:06.600 --> 00:53:12.020
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Electronically. I don't want to pay
more. Don't make me pay more. Don't make me pay more. We also want to be.
505
00:53:12.025 --> 00:53:16.485
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): strategic and make sure these are
bills that fall within our platform that we're taking positions in.
506
00:53:16.485 --> 00:53:23.554
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): to issue a check, I know that they
say you will be issuing a check, that's.
507
00:53:25.430 --> 00:53:32.980
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then, Jason, I don't know if you
can just reiterate, kind of, our strategy on how many bills we should be
considering and taking positions on.
508
00:53:32.985 --> 00:53:47.865
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. And can I add a few real quick
that we're just on the watch list? On your watch list, like, I think
SB117, the one… 1117, the one at ADUs, and Junior Access, that's one we
should actually prioritize, because it's basically bypassing local
control again.
509
00:53:47.865 --> 00:53:58.955
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Sb1172, the one on Bradley Burns,
this one we definitely have to, push back on, because it's gonna affect
the way we do taxation. It's kind of impacted our Apple, revenues
already.
510
00:53:58.955 --> 00:54:04.774
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then I think there was one on
SB1349, I think that's actually important.
511
00:54:04.775 --> 00:54:14.555
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): To actually figure out how to
actually reduce the number of tax laws. I think that's kind of the way
you read it. That was the last one on your list. And hold on, let me move
back up. There was one up here that was…
512
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Jason Gonsalves: Shit.
513
00:54:20.575 --> 00:54:28.055
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Ab2576 on TODs, transit-oriented
Development, for Harabedian.
514
00:54:34.815 --> 00:54:54.625
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): That one is actually… could affect
us. What I'm trying to work really hard on is… is… is kill the bus line
on Stevens Creek so we don't become a high-density zone, because if you
do do that, then we… they can stick any project they want on there,
because it's transit-oriented development, and that one actually works
against that, or works against our ability to do so.
515
00:54:59.975 --> 00:55:00.815
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I'm worried…
516
00:55:00.820 --> 00:55:16.330
Jason Gonsalves: Harabedian bill is kind of a work in progress, I'll call
it, and Cal Cities is looking to potentially sponsor it, because Senator
Weiner's SB72 cleanup, he dropped it, and Harabedian is wanting to.
517
00:55:16.380 --> 00:55:25.290
Jason Gonsalves: he's looking to provide exceptions to SB72… 79, I'm
sorry, SB79, as part of this bill, so…
518
00:55:25.700 --> 00:55:29.440
Jason Gonsalves: Your point about… The ability to…
519
00:55:29.890 --> 00:55:36.280
Jason Gonsalves: to stop the transit line, is something we may want to
communicate to Harrabedian as part of this process.
520
00:55:36.560 --> 00:55:41.319
Jason Gonsalves: But he's looking to be helpful, and we can definitely
provide input.
521
00:55:42.170 --> 00:55:48.700
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. And AB226 we should take a
look at because of the way they're doing needs allocation.
522
00:55:49.370 --> 00:55:49.980
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): So…
523
00:55:52.250 --> 00:55:58.239
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's it, sorry. Yeah, that's
what's on my list. Okay. I don't know if you have anything else to add, I
just… that's just…
524
00:55:58.850 --> 00:56:04.320
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I just wanted Jason, add a last
comment on strategy, and how many bills, and all that stuff.
525
00:56:05.340 --> 00:56:14.199
Jason Gonsalves: Very brief, very briefly, what we've tried to advise in
the past, and I think it's still kind of worth noting, is,
526
00:56:15.030 --> 00:56:29.339
Jason Gonsalves: We often say there's no award at the end of the year for
writing the most letters, so point being is when you… when the mayor and
Council adopts a position, and we communicate it to your legislators and
others, we want them to know it's something that is significant, and
527
00:56:29.340 --> 00:56:46.839
Jason Gonsalves: kind of the challenge, or the balance we try to strike
is, if there's 20 positions, and 5 are critically important, we don't
want one of your legislators to say, well, I voted against you on the 5
important ones, but I helped you on the other 15, that didn't matter. So
it's just a matter of trying to channel
528
00:56:47.240 --> 00:57:04.109
Jason Gonsalves: the priority of the positions, so they know when… when
Cupertino has a position, it means something. And I… I think you,
obviously, Councilmember Wong just noted reasons why those… those bills
that we just… we will be looking at, are significant.
529
00:57:04.910 --> 00:57:07.139
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, and think about bills that we
could.
530
00:57:07.140 --> 00:57:16.220
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): trade with folks that really don't
make a difference to us, but if they do need support, we can pull support
somewhere else. We do a horrible job horse trading on our side, so…
531
00:57:16.220 --> 00:57:23.979
Jason Gonsalves: No, absolutely, and I would say, you know, the action
on… Assemblymember Aaron's food desert legislation.
532
00:57:24.190 --> 00:57:33.990
Jason Gonsalves: shows, you know, a willingness to be supportive to the
assembly member when he wants it, and obviously, when we need him, he
should be remembering that.
533
00:57:34.660 --> 00:57:42.659
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): He will, we just need to come up
with a bill. He's asked us to think of a bill that's nonpartisan, that
could actually make a difference.
534
00:57:42.665 --> 00:57:43.865
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): There's… here's…
535
00:57:43.870 --> 00:57:53.099
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): No idea that… We really… with the
aging population, we really need for sale senior flat.
536
00:57:53.210 --> 00:58:00.390
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): But there is no one building for
sales in your flat because of a legislative,
537
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:16.559
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): issue that, people building condos,
right? There are people who are suing developers, because of that, and
developers are afraid to build.
538
00:58:16.660 --> 00:58:31.009
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because, if it's a wooden…
especially showing when it's, in lower density, so 4 to 6 stories, it's
still a wooden structure, within 10 years, they are liable for any
damage.
539
00:58:31.010 --> 00:58:37.819
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, I just talked to Harvard
Properties, because I talked to someone here, the same thing they said.
540
00:58:37.820 --> 00:58:55.050
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): They are not building for sale
condos because of someone… someone is chasing for suing people for minor
things, but then they have to pay a lot, so they are not building. They
are saying that for townhome development, right now there are companies
set up
541
00:58:55.080 --> 00:59:00.600
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Who will cover any issues that come
up within that 10-year period.
542
00:59:00.730 --> 00:59:13.159
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So there is kind of an insurance
cover for that, but for for sale condos, somehow, there is not a group
set up to cover, wooden structure for sale condos.
543
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:17.889
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, I think this… there could be a
legislative fix.
544
00:59:18.040 --> 00:59:23.779
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that those… these people cannot
just go around suing people. It's kind of like the…
545
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:32.300
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Someone suing all the cities and
district… school districts for redistricting, for this district,
election.
546
00:59:32.600 --> 00:59:39.310
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So there's… So, I think that's
something likely will get bipartisan support.
547
00:59:39.380 --> 00:59:56.560
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And because we have really an aging
population, I'm considering downsizing. I don't want to move into a
rental housing because the rent can go up, I don't know how long I will
live. I would rather trade in and get a for sale, senior flat.
548
00:59:56.565 --> 01:00:00.725
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's actually an interesting piece
of legislation, because what you can do is take advantage of Prop 19,
549
01:00:00.895 --> 01:00:06.345
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Which is when you're 55 or older,
you can actually carry your tax basis with you. Yeah.
550
01:00:06.345 --> 01:00:07.085
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): There's no place.
551
01:00:07.090 --> 01:00:13.920
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And because there's no place to move
to, this is why you don't have a movement of homes out of the area. Yeah.
So, why don't you tell Valco to build a bunch of them?
552
01:00:15.220 --> 01:00:21.170
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Balco, yes, they have the… they are
tall enough, they actually can do that. Yeah, you could do that.
553
01:00:21.170 --> 01:00:26.189
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah. Is what I'm saying. It's
interesting legislation. I don't know. We can talk to Patrick about it,
so…
554
01:00:26.195 --> 01:00:27.045
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Anything on…
555
01:00:27.050 --> 01:00:30.669
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): On, pop… on public meeting you want
to…
556
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:37.230
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Nope. Nothing on top of the meeting
I want to get to. So, anything else? Sorry.
557
01:00:37.350 --> 01:00:37.970
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, so…
558
01:00:37.975 --> 01:00:47.045
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, I was on the revenue and the
tech session, so this is one bill I thought is interesting, that SB1450?
559
01:00:47.435 --> 01:00:56.085
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): They are trying to allow property
tax exemption For moderate income housing.
560
01:00:57.225 --> 01:01:02.805
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, basically, Rocket Rate Housing,
they are going to get property tax exemption.
561
01:01:05.765 --> 01:01:10.515
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I… I think it will affect, city
revenue.
562
01:01:12.865 --> 01:01:18.895
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then there is another bill that
they have alerted. It's AB1953.
563
01:01:20.065 --> 01:01:34.795
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's a short-term rental bill that
they are going to take away local control. When there are natural
disasters and other events, they want to control how many short-term
rentals our city provides things.
564
01:01:41.795 --> 01:01:45.555
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then there is a bill, I think
they mentioned the…
565
01:01:45.765 --> 01:01:57.874
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): They are trying to limit the number…
the amount the city can pay for a consultant when we negotiate a tax
rate-based contract with the company.
566
01:02:01.745 --> 01:02:09.205
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's just something I felt… Rational
monitor. Okay, so this is SB1172.
567
01:02:10.005 --> 01:02:21.504
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): It will limit the compensation that
a consultant can receive for negotiating… negotiating a sales tax sharing
agreement between a local agency and a private retailer.
568
01:02:23.025 --> 01:02:36.905
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm not sure why there is a need to
limit. Is there an issue on how much? But then I… if this would impact
the ability of CT to negotiate with, local business.
569
01:02:37.135 --> 01:02:40.915
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think we… we need to know what it
is.
570
01:02:42.230 --> 01:02:56.029
Jason Gonsalves: It definitely, and it's 5% of the amount, or $250,000,
whichever is lower. And, the issue, there's tax consultants that will
571
01:02:56.160 --> 01:03:04.100
Jason Gonsalves: enter into tax-sharing agreements with cities. So, for
example, in Long Beach, in its public information, Robertson Dejas.
572
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:13.220
Jason Gonsalves: he negotiated an attorney, he negotiated a tax-sharing
agreement in the city of Long Beach, and he gets a million dollars a year
573
01:03:13.680 --> 01:03:16.770
Jason Gonsalves: as long as that agreement's in place.
574
01:03:16.770 --> 01:03:18.199
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's a story.
575
01:03:18.205 --> 01:03:19.094
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, that…
576
01:03:19.410 --> 01:03:21.350
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Wow, that's the trip.
577
01:03:21.350 --> 01:03:24.050
Jason Gonsalves: So that's where the… Extrogation.
578
01:03:24.350 --> 01:03:25.640
Jason Gonsalves: It falls.
579
01:03:26.010 --> 01:03:39.610
Jason Gonsalves: Yeah, and it's public money, so the bill wouldn't stop
the city from negotiating with Apple and rebating a percentage, having a
tax-sharing agreement with Apple. It would stop the city from having me
580
01:03:39.910 --> 01:03:44.009
Jason Gonsalves: negotiate on your behalf with Apple, and taking
581
01:03:44.200 --> 01:03:49.479
Jason Gonsalves: more than 5% or $250,000 as part of that agreement. So
it's really going after the…
582
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:59.199
Jason Gonsalves: the tax consultants, you know, they'll… there's sales
tax folks like HDL, HDL has a great reputation, but they'll…
583
01:03:59.330 --> 01:04:04.499
Jason Gonsalves: Take a percentage of what they find, and the bill's
saying it can't be an egregious amount.
584
01:04:06.210 --> 01:04:12.070
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, how come it's not saying he
cannot be a… ongoing fee.
585
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:17.259
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): doesn't it just be a one-time fee.
Your work is done, it's done.
586
01:04:17.820 --> 01:04:19.970
Jason Gonsalves: That's… that's what the bill's seeking to…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Bill's front. Yeah.
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Jason Gonsalves: But it wouldn't cap… so if Cupertino and Apple had an
agreement, let's just say 50% share of the…
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Jason Gonsalves: sales tax went back to Apple, and the city negotiated
that. The bill doesn't affect that agreement.
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Jason Gonsalves: If the city had a consultant negotiate it, and the
consultant wanted, call it, a million dollars a year, or $100,000 a year
for negotiating the agreement, the consultant could not
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Jason Gonsalves: Get that fee.
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Jason Gonsalves: They would… they would be capped at $250,000 one time.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, okay.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I see.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, if you think of any other
ones, we can submit it to you guys for the future agenda.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): added…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Make sure it's added to the list,
and Jason will flag them. I think most of the ones you guys did mention
are either already on here, and I'll verify that. But it helps us prepare
the upcoming agenda for June 22nd, so…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then in our conversation with
Josh Becker, he's the one that wrote the SB326 on the hardening, I
believe. So, I think that's actually great, because he was the one
advocating for that, I think, or something like that. So, he's wrote the
fire one, so Becker, fire…
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Jason Gonsalves: Yep, he did.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, he's the one that got that
passed and signed, so I think that's the one. Wildfire Safety was S.P.
Becker, yeah.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): first meeting.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): is gonna be for Planning the Action
Day, and our next LRC, like, well, they'll both be LRC meetings, it'll be
June 22nd. 22nd.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, are we going to look at any
bills on June 1st?
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Jason Gonsalves: We can… we can definitely provide an update on the ones
that you noted, absolutely.
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Quinlan Conference Room: on the…
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Jason Gonsalves: Assuming it… assuming it fits within the LRC, you know,
depending on if that meeting is a…
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Jason Gonsalves: if we're preparing for a legislative action day for the
city as a whole, or if we're doing an LRC, and I believe you're going to
have legal counsel advise on that. But if it fits, we'll be happy to
provide an update, absolutely.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I assume you will have, some
priority deal list for this, whoever is going to Sacramento to…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): talk about. So we… I suppose we will
have that list on June 1st.
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Jason Gonsalves: We can… we can do that, for sure. It sounded like
Councilmember Wong wanted to also discuss
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Jason Gonsalves: how the various fire safety and considerations, conflict
with HCD's requirements.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I want to start a process where we
work with other cities to highlight the inconsistencies in HCD's laws
that put safety, public health safety and wellness at risk.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I think that's… and this is one
of many.
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Jason Gonsalves: So, the flyers… Absolutely.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So…
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Jason Gonsalves: Yeah, I mean, the ADU law, right? I mean, SB9, you can
put up 4 units in a backyard without any consideration of it.
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Jason Gonsalves: Public emergency vehicle access and and safety.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And for this, I think right now it's
inconsistency between fire department, because some fire… because, the
fire department gets to approve a reduction of a certain thing, like
setback, but then they don't really have objective standard. They don't
have any documentation on
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): what's sufficient for a reduction of
the setback to what amount. So… but I hear some fire department is pretty
strict, and some fire department is the…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): There's inconsistency in standards,
it's all based on professional judgment. The lack of objective standards
is really, the cause of concern, because the standards for high fire
severity zones are pretty standard. So inconsistent standards apply to a
consistent set of standards, which put everyone at risk, and that would
be the biggest problem.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that there is no consideration to
the risk to adjoining ex… to the existing home surrounding a new
development.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because when they make this
reduction, they are actually endangering the ember, the risk of traveling
to the
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): older homes who are not fire-
resistant ready.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): The 1955 is a thatch hut ready to go
on fire. Yeah.
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Jason Gonsalves: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, when they reduce that, okay,
maybe it might be still safe for this new building, they can use all the
fire-resistant material. But for the newer… for the older homes, their
insurance is going to go up.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, needless to say, something we're
tracking, if there's anything around fire, fire insurance, wildfire
areas, those are the areas we should look at. Yeah. Okay.
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Jason Gonsalves: Absolutely.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Alright, with that, any other new
business? Old business? We're all done? Alright, you ready to adjourn?
I'm good to adjourn? You good to adjourn?
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Jason Gonsalves: Get it adjourned. Thank you both very much.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. All right, well, we adjourn
this meeting of the legislative… I was trying to get to it, but there we
go. Good enough.
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Jason Gonsalves: Take care.
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Quinlan Conference Room: Okay, great.