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Quinlan Conference Room: And start…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Can we see your Housing Commission
meeting on May 28, 2026.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): 5.30pm?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We have a quorum of pre-finishers,
so we can get the movement started.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Start with the agenda item number
one.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Start with the roll call? Sure,
okay, let's start with the roll call. Mr. Cunningham?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Here.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Commissioner's talk to you?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Excellent.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Mr. Jindy?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Vice Chair Jones? Here.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Chair Ryan? Yes, yeah.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): For the record, Commissioner Sharif
Coffey and Commissioner Jindy are absent.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Agenda item number 1 is approval of
minutes from March 26, 2026.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Any motion to approve the notes? I
can move to, approve the minutes. In the seconds?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I second one. Okay.
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Quinlan Conference Room: So the minutes are approved.
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Quinlan Conference Room: Oh, thank you. Okay.
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Quinlan Conference Room: Commissioner Cunningham?
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Quinlan Conference Room: Aye.
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Quinlan Conference Room: Proof. I prove.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Commissioner Sri Coffey is absent.
Commissioner Jindy is absent. Vice Chair Joes? Aye.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Sharon or Ryan? Aye.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Motion carries unanimously.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do we have any postponements?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The postponement.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Next would be oral communications.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Nevertheless.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): We have no speakers, sure. No
speakers.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay.
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Quinlan Conference Room: Next item, all business.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, we have no… We don't have any.
Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, move on… moving on to the new
business.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Let's see, agenda item number 2, we
have…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The fiscal year 2026-27 Community
Development Block Grant Draft Annual Action Plan.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So the action is for… the approvals…
the document.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yes, Native Chair, we have a
presentation software.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. Evelyn Mesa, Assistant Housing
Coordinator, and our… is…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): of the Annual Action Plan. Tonight,
we're asking the Housing Commission to approve the fiscal year 2026-2027
CDBG Annual Action Plan for the middle to HUD.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): First, a little background on the
Community Development Block Grant Program. This is an annual entitlement
grant fund issued by the federal government.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): HUD, the U.S. Department of Housing
and Urban Development, uses a formula to allocate and award funds to
jurisdictions, and these funds are intended to primarily benefit low- and
moderate-income persons.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): In order to receive these funds,
cities are required to submit consolidated plans and annual action plans
to HUD.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): The consolidated plan is a more
long-term plan that determines the housing and community development
goals based on identified needs in the community, and the annual action
plan is a year-to-year implementation plan that outlines how these goals
will be met in the upcoming year.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Currently, our… our current
consolidated plan covers a 5-year period from 2025 through 2030, and
we're in the second
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Consolidated plan year.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Great, so the annual action plan
includes the projects and activities that will be enacted in the upcoming
fiscal year, starting on July 1st.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And it also lists the organizations
that will be awarded the CDBG allocations, and it tracks additional
funding distribution from other sources.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): That will be used to further these
consolidated plan goals. This is essentially formalizing the funding
recommendations that were made by the Housing Commission and approved by
the City Council back in April.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Great, so this table, which I know
is a little hard to see, but it is included in the Annual Action Plan, it
includes all of the consolidated plan goals, along with the funding
allocations, and as you can see, it covers all funding sources, not only
CDPG, so it includes BMR Affordable Housing Fund.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): HSG and county funding as well.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And just for a little breakdown on
each of these goals, our first one is homeowner rehabilitation. This
includes making critical home repairs for lower-income and disabled
homeowners who wouldn't otherwise be able to make these repairs to their
homes. Also provides repairs.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): For accessible features for disabled
and elderly homeowners who otherwise might not be able to stay in their
homes.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Next, we have affordable rental
construction, which includes the construction of affordable rental
housing units for extremely low- and low-income residents. The city is
submitting funding to one affordable housing project, which will produce
249 rental units.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Our next goal is the Community
Development Goal, which will include facility upgrades to kitchens and
bathrooms in low-income rental units at the Vista Village Affordable
Housing Apartments.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): The Braille and Elderly Services
School provides services to elderly and disabled residents. These
supportive services may include activities geared to maximizing their
social experience.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And the mental stimulation of
elderly clients, and also improves and sustains their mental and physical
function, and their quality of life, as well as providing legal
assistance.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Next, we have services for low-
income families and homeless populations. This goal includes providing
supportive services, landlord-tenant counseling, dispute resolution
services to low-income families and unhoused residents.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then finally, our Planning and
Administration goal just covers overall administration for our CBBG
program.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And as mentioned, we include all of
the activities to provide a full picture of activities that the city's
funding for the year, but the annual action plan is ultimately a HUD
requirement, which means it's primarily focused on CDBG funding, how we
allocate these funds, track them, and report on them.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So the following is the CDBG
allocations. For Live Oak Adult Day Services, we're going to be funding
it at $15,000 for the year. West Valley Community Services, the care
program, is being funded at $33,300. So this is for our public services,
which are 15% of the CDBG funding allocation.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Next, we have the funding for the
CDBG capital housing projects. $107,500 is allocated for the Rebuilding
Together Silicon Valley.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): homeowner repair and rehab program.
And finally, we have $160,000 allocated to West Valley Community Services
for their Vista Village facilities upgrades.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I didn't put it there, but we
also have $64,500 allocated for the planning and administration.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): In terms of our timeline, we're on
track to submit by the June 15th deadline to HUD, and this is following
the NOFA application period, which closed back in February, and the
Housing Commission recommendations, as well as the City Council funding
approval.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So our next step is to get approval
for this annual action plan today, and we're ready to submit to HUD.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): We do have a recommended motion for
you, and I'm available to answer any questions you might have about the
plan, and that concludes my presentation.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Are you open for questions? First
clarifying questions from the Commission.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm sorry, Latita? First is
clarifying questions from the Commission. Sure. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The commissioners, I have a list of
things I would like to ask, but let me…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): If I have questions as well, but…
Yeah, go ahead. Hello.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, okay,
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I just had, like, certain, items I
thought were inconsistent when I reviewed it. It may just be a
typographic error, so can I point them out? Yeah. Okay, there was, the
public comment period.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): of 30-day, there was, different
dates. In some areas, it was April 24 to 28, May 28.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And in one, place, it was April 27th
to May 28, and then there was another which said April 27 to May 27.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll double check that, but it's the
correct.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): one should be April 27th until
today, 28th. 28th, right?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So there were, yeah, so there were 3
different, date ranges. Okay, I can double check. In different areas,
okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So it should be 27 to 28, right?
Correct, yes. Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then, it was also in AP15,
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): there was, the CDBG program income,
income, was listed as, 7,944.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Whereas in AP90, it was listed as
zero.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I couldn't address that one. So,
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): what's in AP15 is a projection.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): program outcome that we expect to
get through the year. And then 1890 is essentially what.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): as we go into the new year, how much
unexpected program income do we have at that time? Okay. Yeah, so it's
actually two different things it's measuring, right? One is an estimate
of what we expect to receive over the entire course of next year. One is
what are we carrying over going in from this year. I see. Okay, okay, got
it, got it, got it. Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, there was an attachment of the
2017-2018 Housing Commission Resolution 17-12.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right? That's the old grant amount
and funding caps.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, what's the purpose of attaching
that is…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): It doesn't apply, or… I don't know.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's a contingency plan that was
passed by the Housing Commission, basically on the question of what do we
do?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): when the estimates of our CDBG grant
don't match what HUD ultimately gives us.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And what it basically spells out is
we try our best to match the Housing Commission's recommendation, right?
When it comes to the public services, if they award us more, we
proportionally award each one more. We proportionally award each one of
them less.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then when it comes to
construction projects, if we don't have enough money, then we fully fund
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): the most important one, basically,
and we have to put the other ones on the back burner, right? Because
construction's a little bit different. If we don't fully fund them, then
they just don't happen, right? Yeah. And so that contingency point, we've
kind of kept it going, because,
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's a problem that kind of…
exists, and…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): the design of the CDBG program,
right? We're required to make these funding recommendations before HUD
actually gives us the money, and so sometimes… it's never exact, right?
It's never, never. We can make our best estimates, but it's never going
to be exactly the same number. So there's always going to be even more
than we estimated, and so we need the contingency funds to say, okay,
even though we went to the Commission with this number.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah. We have a contingency plan so
that when it's different, we know how to
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): you know, do contract with that. But
the thing is, that was,
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): approved, like, almost 10 years ago,
right?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): interested in potentially reopening
that identity plan. Shouldn't we be asking for all the money?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm just saying, like, to HUD, so if
it's with inflation and so forth, you want to…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We'll be asked for more. Oh, I would
love to ask for more, man. But we're not. They would just be like, no,
it's a formula grant, and that's what you get. But if you're interested
in reopening the contingency plan, if you want to redesign it, that's
something that the Commission is always open to do. Interesting. All
right, thank you. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, show that AP20 Right? The 249
unit at the Wolf Road, project.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, I think it says, start of
construction. It said, between 2026 to 27th.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): If you look at the description, it's
not construction, right? It's just the funding happens in 26-27. Correct.
Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): We also included… But it's listed
as.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): construction, that's why. Oh, I see,
okay. Yeah, I think we all.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I also noted that construction will
take place through the consolidated plan period. Right, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so this is, like, the AP20
item… line item 2.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): It says, yeah, it says construction,
that's why.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, voted by that.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And there were two other things,
like, the homeless count, homeless count.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): It was a 48 number and also a 101
number.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): What… I mean, if… if the study was
based, or the allocation was based on the old 48 number, should… how does
that reflect the newer 101?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Fortunately, our formulaic grant is…
does not take into account our bid count. It's… it's really more of just
a…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): us knowing what is the change in
need that we're seeing year-to-year in these populations. So, the 48
number is from,
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think the 2024 count, and 101 is…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I've count, so I just… Does he sit
down.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): What is a recent one, right? Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The 101 is a recent count, the zero
time, yeah. Just, yes, December of 2025, yeah.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): But the… but our goals and the
funding allocation can't reflect the new one. It still reflects the…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, our… amended.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): In the con plan design, which was
done
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, it was written in 2024, right?
For the 2024 and onward. I mean, we have new… we have new data that we
can address, right, in an action plan when we want to talk about
implementing, right? And because, you know.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Priorities change. Yeah, yeah. But
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so anything that references
the comp plan is going to have the old number, and anything that doesn't
have the numbers.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Buckman.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Otherwise, my only thing is it's an
amazing report. It's very well written, and I think it also, ties back to
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): It focuses on low-income households
and special needs populations, which is really critical, so…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We'll fix it. Thank you, Chair.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I do have a couple of questions.
Page 14 and 19 of Table 2, talks about the Housing Trust, Silicon Valley.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): calling it a CDFI. Didn't know what
was a CDFI, so I looked it all up and found out. It's a community
development finance institution, and that they provide funds,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): separately from, say, the banks and
conventional guys. And they provide bridge capital. And my question is,
how does Cupertino
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Work with, this particular
organization, to ensure that developers are aware of this particular
phenomenon.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We've maintained relationships,
right, with all these different, like.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): regional government and nonprofit
organizations when it comes to this kind of housing kind of ecosystem,
right? They invite us for funding, right, for our BMR program, for
example. We also kind of direct them towards other available funds to try
to maximize, you know, the project's success, right? So, when
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): for example, Mary Avenue, right,
applied to us for funding back in, 2025. We also introduced them to the
Housing Trust of Silicon Valley, right? And, you know, basically shared
the performance of, like, helping you guys also put into this project,
right? Like, we're supporting this project.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): What can you guys also contribute in
the identity, right? I think about $3 million.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I wasn't aware of that, and I don't
know if any of the other housing commissioners were aware of that, or
even…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): how that whole system works. I had
heard on a number of occasions that ELI housing specifically is a layer
cake, but I only know a couple of the layers, so apparently I have
discovered this new one, and I appreciate your describing it for me. I'm
very pleased that we have had
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think.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): is coming forward. It does sound
like for anyone, any developer, to get a… the interest of a CDFI loan or
bridge gap, that they have to have already
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): achieve some success with their…
they can't just come in with an application and say, here, you know,
here, Housing Trust Silicon Valley. They have to have both.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Come to a city.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): to get something. And so I don't
know what that something is. It's something, like in the case of Mary
Avenue, they did get land, as well as funding. I don't know if,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): land is always necessary, or if just
funding from the city would be necessary?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): They want to basically bridge the
gap on shovel-ready projects, right? They don't want to just find a
dream, and then potentially all of them go to nowhere. So, yeah,
typically.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): when the housing trust gets
involved, they've already got a proposal, a performer, they've got a
plan, right? And they've even got, like, a budget made up, and they just
say, like, oh, we need this much to bridge the gap. And then that is
where housing trust will really come in.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I do have a follow-on question, if
you don't work with that, because, we have a housing element which has
any number of sites available, for developers to
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): decide they have an application to
come in. So,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Hmm, I guess a big question is, is
that only non-profit, Developers that usually
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): get into this mix, or does a regular
developer… you know, what I mean, yeah. I think you know what I mean,
because we have several… we have had several applicants approved to build
townhomes, with,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): the low market rate purchase, but we
haven't had any for the partner-type units that… and they have all… they
have all said that they don't have funding available to them, so what…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Are those, developers not, able to
apply to… I mean, they've got something, right? They've got the land, and
they've got the plan, and… It's almost always gonna.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): to be a non-profit developer, right?
Housing Trust and the City BMR Fund, right, we're both really interested
in finding those 100% affordable projects, right? Not just, like, an
inclusionary market rate project that's contractually obliged, right, to
provide a certain percentage of their units as affordable.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And really, it's the 100% of all
projects that even need
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): the support in the first place,
right?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, I would have thought so.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): all of these applicants said they
couldn't get any funding except for… except for, townhomes, that they
could only get, funding… I mean, they couldn't get it for any apartment
kinds of units. That's… that's my question is, at what point does the,
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I guess it's not just, you know, the,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): other kind, the nonprofits who need
help. Actually, it sounds like…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): everybody needs help if they want
to, build anything other than townhomes to the market, right? Sure.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): this might be a gap in, like, the
financial lending structure, right? Where you've got CDFIs to help low-
income affordable housing, and you've got your conventional bank lenders
that can help, you know, with your market redevelopments, but you want to
see a return on investment, so they want to go for
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): townhomes and things like that that
can turn a profit really quickly, and then maybe there's something in the
middle that doesn't exist yet, right, that can maybe
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll just suggest just for rental
housing in general boosting? I don't know if that exists yet, but that's
a good question to be asking. Okay, yeah.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, thank you for… for saying it
was a good question to be asking, because I kept thinking, what am I
missing? Yeah. Where in here am I not understanding, what the… what all
these townhome
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Applicants are saying, because it's
all the same.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And yet they're all…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): businessmen and women, and anyway,
thank you for that answer. It was very helpful, and I hope it helped
everyone else understand it as well.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I did have another question, but if
you have some single… You want it to?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, why don't you go ahead. So, on
page 43, we talk about what.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): that's expected. For funding, about
$322,000. We also refer to $50,000 in expended funds.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): When the need is so great, why do we
carry a surplus over here when we know that, you know, some of the future
evolutions are based on one formulae, right? That doesn't depend on prior
year carryover, but nevertheless, like, the growth in need is pretty
exponential.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Especially when we refer back to,
you know, 50 versus 101, or 48 versus 101 unhoused, residents. So, why…
why do we carry that over?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): The carryover is the result of,
actually, a construction project finishing under budget. So, the fire
alarm project is nearing completion, and they were able to do it,
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): somehow without expending all the
money we re-award, so we are expecting some of that money to basically
become unencumbered once that project completes, and so that's why we are
including that as carryover to be re-awarded out for another project.
Follow-up question?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah. So does that count against the
formulaic future allocation? No.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): No.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah. We just need to make sure we
spend it in time. There's, like, there's these timeliness showdown
requirements that that gives us, but it doesn't… it doesn't make us
receive a lot in the future. Okay. I have one more question.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, the formulaic assessment, can
you help me understand that a little bit better?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, it's based on two things.
Number one, what is your city's population size? And then, of that
population size, how much of it is low income?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, so if you're… if you're a big
city, with a really, really, really big low-income population, you'll get
a massive CDBG award, right? Big cities, in general, will get big awards,
more than smaller cities, and then rich cities will get less than poor
cities.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): And have we tracked, like, Pretty
stable, or have we…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Pretty much around.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): 300,000 number.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Over the years that I've seen.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): That doesn't sound like a number.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): For the growth that it has your
resume.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): No, no, they don't, because their
formula does not account for growth in the house residents. There's
actually a different federal
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): grant that does that. It's called
ESG, and that's managed by the county, actually.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, I do.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I have a couple of more questions.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, I had… oh, this one is a
simpler one, and then I'll go back to the one. It's a more…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): On page 48, it says that we are
going to attempt 70% instead of a higher percent of overall benefit. So,
could you explain to me what the overall benefit is, and why we're going
for 70% and not 85, 90…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do you mind if I look at that page
real quick? Oh, page 48? Let me see what it's good.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Maybe for kids, it's this… chart
here.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, no, no, we don'.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We are going for 100%. So this is
our answer on the side. We're saying we're going for 100%. We're saying,
at a minimum, do 70%, and we said, we're going for 100.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): It says a city will attempt to
develop benefit of 70.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I mean, that's just to give us, you
know, as much ability, right? Like, if you don't need it, they don't.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): because you didn't get 100, you only
got 8. Yeah, we won't… we're saying we're 8 months, right? But we won't…
we won't… we won't.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): the overall benefit of stuff by
going for 100. Okay.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I, I understand.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, my patient person.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, the other question that I have
is a little more, complicated. It's talk… it's on page,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Page 37, where we're talking about
homeless and other special needs.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And we already talked about that
Cupertino has 45 homeless residents, and now the new count is 101. Okay.
And, in here, we state that,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): There are no emergency shelters or
transitional housing in Cicotino.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): On page 38, There was a, project
summary.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And the report stated that Cupertino
has a rotating safe parking program with two host sites. Does… do those
spaces come anywhere close to either 4-5, or… that's the low one, I mean,
101? Each of those sites.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): accommodates FIT25.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, and are they all operating at
the same time, then? So it's really 75? No, so they.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): They rotate throughout the year, so
those 25 individuals might be just rotating sites.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, so it's really only 25. Yes.
Out of the 45.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yes, this is a program that involves
other cities, so there's… it's…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I believe operates up to 1210.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): out of the year? Okay, 10 months out
of the year, which leaves 2 months, where there isn't any. And then
there's 25 out of the 45 of our people, not speaking of what other cities
might have homeless residents as well, if I'm accurately understanding
you.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, that, that,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I was thinking about that, and it
turns out… well, I was thinking about that when I also remembered that
not too long ago.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): the city passed a, no overnight
parking ordinance for anyone, anyone who said we do outers, and I
thought, wow, for not having a safe
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): parking lot. That's…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): pretty draconian, right? To take
somebody's house and take it away from them, when it's the only house
they had.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): end of preaching. I will go to what
my next point is, is that, There was an article.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): In the Bay Area. Oops.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And it talks about the fact that our
supervisor… oh, is that the right one?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Our supervisor, Margaret Favifoga,
convened the meeting in April.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): pounds,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): She convened, there were 50 city,
county, non-profit, faith, and business leaders in Palo… and they met in
Palo Alto to consider strategies for a regional approach to safe parking
spaces. So what I'm thinking is that,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Hopefully, who can all will be
actively involved in that, and that, that's something that I would like
to… and I might just, depending on what happens with this conversation,
maybe, we can add it to our,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): agenda from the future, to talk
about this, because it's something that, Asai as the supervisor, and
there's a…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): organization called Move Mountain
View, and it has a successful program, and one of the women who was in
that program, she lived there two and a half years.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that takes you 25… your 25 units,
periodically throughout the year, and it didn't have helped her at all.
She couldn't have done anything if she were in our…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, I just wanted to share that with
you, that, since this is an ongoing,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Group that is getting together under
the auspices of the county supervisor that hopefully they,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Cupertino is going to be involved in
that, and that we can stand up to help
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): safe parking spot, and considering
that overall we have fewer homeless people than many, many places have,
that we could have one big enough to help, as many as we need. Because
they were talking about
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): The fact that this county has a
bunch of different kinds of housing things that they do, and this
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): safe parking one has the list of
the,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Lots available to help those people.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, so the idea is this… this
isn't, like, a goal, like, everybody gives it, but it's a strategy to
help people who… who are… need that help now, and then as you're getting
them better.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): housing, apartment, like that later
on. So, I wanted to bring that up and just say that, I hope we can
strengthen
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): our existing one. I think our
existing one should definitely be kept. I mean, people that are using it
are needing that help, and they're using that help, and I… I want that to
stay there. It's just, I would like to,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I hope that that's stronger.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): A question that came out of this,
though, was that, after the… program.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): There was an MOU signed, and I
forget what… but there was an MOU signed with us and other West Valley
cities, come up with a, plan for emergency shelters and transitional
housing, and that that work is finished, and that was in here as well.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And it said period. It says there
are going to be more action taken after that, and I didn't know, because
it didn't say whether Cupertino was going to be involved in that next
step of taking further actions
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): To work on it.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We produce a council informational
memo on the results of that study.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): in March, at least. And if the City
Council wants to agendize further action, if they want to join the
implementation plan, that'll be at their discretion.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, is that something that we
might then, as the Housing Commission, even recommend?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): that we involved in that. I mean,
we're talking about emergency housing and, transitional housing. And the
only emergency housing we have in the city, as I understand it, is
Nietzsi. And that's been… and that's wonderful, and it's been funded for
a long time through
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): ArchSG, or one of our fundings.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Anyway, just thinking that, that
might be something… I guess I should talk to our fellow commissioners,
too. That might be something that we would want to ask the, city to
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Consider, is to be on that action.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think the Housing Commission as a
whole want to have that discussion and.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. …position as a whole,
concerning.
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Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conference Room): do that? That's the will of the
Commission.
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Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I read the memo that, Nikki, you
mentioned, that status of homelessness in Cupertino in March 2026, was
uploaded in the city website. That was really useful for me.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I mean, given the facts, basically,
right? Yeah. So,
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, we could table it as an agenda
item in the future to discuss more, if we can come up with strategies of
what can be done. Look at that. That can be definitely done, yeah. Okay.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And the other thing that
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): having to do with the same topic is
that, later on, I would… under inter-agenda setting, I do have something
written up for, considering as an agenda item for… for the future, and so
if you would like to…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): This is what I have written up.
Okay. If… let's say that.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, well, that's thumbs up.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, you mean just save it till
later? Yeah, we'll have that.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): Would you make the public
comfortable.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's, for public comment.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): We have two speakers, Dean Everson
and Linda Hitchcock. Our first speaker is Dean. Oh, and we have one
speaker remotely, Georgia Bay Seal. So, Dean?
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then just one sec while I bring
up the timer.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Sweet.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, go ahead. Wonderful, thank
you.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Everton with Rebuilding Together
Silicon Valley, and I wanted to just take an opportunity to thank you all
for your support.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): of,
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): the work that we've done over the
years with Cupertino residents to help keep them affordably housed, and
to invest in our affordable housing stock that we do have. It's said that
the most affordable home is the one that you live in.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Emphasizing the benefits of a secure
place to build equity and live without housing insecurity.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's also proven that home
preservation is the best and most affordable housing option for many low-
income households, costing about 26 times more to build a new affordable
housing unit than it is to repair an existing one.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): The work we do is a relatively low
investment to restore homes to safe and healthy living environments so
that people can raise their families there, age in place, grow old, and
hopefully thrive in place, and to be able to keep that hard-earned wealth
asset in their family for generations to come.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): The repairs that we make are not
cosmetic, they are vital repairs that help to store significant pieces of
the home, like replacing a roof.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): That, is failing, or unsafe plumbing
and electrical systems, or installing modifications like grab bars,
ramps, or a wheelchair lift.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): But even more important than the
types and number of repairs that we do are the long-term impacts.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): 80% of our clients report less
financial stress.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): 75% said their mental health…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): 65% felt more included in their
neighborhood, with 75% expressing an increased pride in their home.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): And 36% said their health improved
after the repairs that we did.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): So again, I want to thank you for
believing in the work that we do, repairing one Cupertino home at a time,
and we look forward to our continued partnership.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, our next speaker is Linda
Hitchcock.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Hi, I'm Linda Hitchcock. I am with
Live Oak Adult Day Services. I'm the Ambassador of Clients and
Partnerships, and I.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm here representing our Executive
Director, Sumi Yasakawa, who had to go to Japan
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Kind of quickly. So, I'm just going
to read this, and heartfelt for me also. I, represent Adult Day Services.
We have been a trusted provider for older adults in Santa Clara County
for 4 decades.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I'm here to express our sincere
appreciation and to request continued support.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): The older adults we serve among the
Cupertinos most valuable.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Our participants are seniors with
dementia.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): who want to remain in their homes
and stay connected to their community, but who cannot do so without daily
support. Our organization provides the support, structured programming,
socialization is embedded in all of our
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Programming, health monitoring, and
respite for family caregivers who would otherwise face impossible choices
between work and care.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): CDBG recognizes people like our
organization. It explicitly prioritized housing stability, supportive
services, and investments that benefit extremely low- and moderate-income
households.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): For our participants, housing
stability and daily care are inseparable.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): The results speak for themselves.
Last program year, CDVG funds helped Live Oaks serve 42 families in
Cupertino. They are individuals
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Who were able to stay safely in
their homes.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): And families who had a lifeline.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): That may sound like a modest
number, but I can tell you that for each of those people and their
families, this program providing 6 hours a day respite was everything.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Commissioners, this funding matters
beyond what it directly provides. When a city like Cupertino invests in
our organization like CDBG, it sends a signal to the broader
philanthropic community. Your vote of confidence serves as a powerful
endorsement
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): It allows us to approach funders,
Foundations, individual donors, and other
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): funders with credibility. It tells
them that Live Oak has been vetted, trusted, and deemed worthy of public
investment.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): That, in turn, unlocked additional
dollars that stretched every public dollar further.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): City support catalyzes our funding.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): We also want to say thank you.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thank you to the City of
Cupertino's ongoing partnership for the consultative process that shaped
this plan.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): And for your commitment to
Cupertino's most valuable residents.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Live Oak is proud to be part of
this community of care.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Linda, our next speaker is Georgia
Basile.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Welcome, Georgia.
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Georgia Bacil: Good evening.
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Georgia Bacil: Georgia Basile, Directing Attorney of Senior Adults Legal
Assistance, or SALA, as you know us.
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Georgia Bacil: We provide free legal services to Cupertino residents 60
or older, targeting clients that are low income or at risk of abuse or
loss of independence. We provide our services locally, at appointments at
Cupertino Senior Center, and by phone for clients that cannot leave their
homes or with emergencies. We are a current human service grantee, and we
thank you.
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Georgia Bacil: Your funding supports expanded availability of our
services to Cupertino seniors.
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Georgia Bacil: We were mentioned in the 2026-27 Action Plan under elderly
Services, so I'd like to share with you what we do.
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Georgia Bacil: As attorneys, we address a range of critical matters
impacting our clients' lives. For example, we address income insecurity
by assisting clients with problems involving public benefits they rely on
to meet their basic needs. And these are legal problems related to Social
Security, SSI, Medicare, and Medi-Cal. We address housing instability by
assisting clients worried about eviction.
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Georgia Bacil: Clients needing reasonable accommodations in their
housing, or clients whose housing is otherwise in jeopardy.
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Georgia Bacil: We address loss of autonomy by assisting clients with very
basic legal planning for the future to help them agent place by assisting
them to appoint someone they trust now to step in and manage their
affairs when they can no longer do so.
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Georgia Bacil: And we address elder abuse and domestic violence by
assisting clients that are victims of abuse.
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Georgia Bacil: Usually by someone living in their homes, or someone they
know.
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Georgia Bacil: We cannot charge fees for our services or accept fee-
generating cases under the Older Americans Act. The primary way we
support our services is through grants like your Human Services Grant,
and we very much appreciate that. Your funding has helped us provide the
highest level of service possible to Cupertino residents this year, and
we thank you so much for that support.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thank you, Georgia. Our next speaker
is Carol Kahn.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Hi, I'm Carol Conn, I'm the
Executive Director of Project Sentinel.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): We've been in partnership with the
City of Cupertino a dozen years now, providing.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): Fair Housing Services, as well as,
tenant landlord dispute resolution, which works proactively to prevent or
deactiv.
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Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conference Room): escalate the kinds of conflicts
that lead to eviction and homelessness. We're especially grateful to the
City of Cupertino this year. We do have plans for additional outreach and
workshops.
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Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thanks to the, bump and increase in
funding, that has been recommended.
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Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): We, regarding our fair housing
activities, again, just to reacquaint everybody, we, work to remove the
discriminatory.
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Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conference Room): barriers and practices.
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Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): and housing.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): We invite.
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Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): investigate.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): Housing Complaints of this.
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Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): We conduct systemic audits or
testing for operational discrimination in the community, and we seek
redress
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Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): redress to victims of
discrimination through enforcement under state and federal laws. We also
conduct community outreach to inform people of what it is that we do, our
free services therein, and we also educate property providers, property
managers, and landlords around the fair housing standards.
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Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conference Room): for complete.
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Georgia Bacil: Nice.
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Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): Our program supports, as I said,
the de-escalation of housing conflicts to do whatever we can to stabilize
that housing and prevent displacement or an eviction.
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Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): Again, we are privileged to be in
partnership with the City of Cupertino. We thank you for, again, the
recommendations to serve another year. We look forward to doing that
every day. Thank you. Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): We have no remaining speakers in
person, and no hands raised on the signature.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Goshes?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I have one comment. There was, the
public comment period of 30 days, Said those new comments received.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I was surprised.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, was there adequate outreach to
pick…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): public even now, or, you know? We
did publish notices in the newspaper.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): We publish physical copies of City
Hall and at the library. We have an outreach list of service providers
and regional organizations that we maintain that we sent it out to, and
we sent multiple reminders about the meeting.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): It could be that.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): you know, this is essentially kind
of rubber-stamping the decision that the Housing Commission made on
March, and then the City Council reaffirmed, right? So, a lot of people
have gotten their comments out.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Already in the first two meetings? I
see. Yeah, that tends to happen.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): unusual.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): No, for the fun.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Sometimes we still get more comments
anyways, right?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): All right, do we have a… should we
do ask for a motion for approval?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I can approve, approval of…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, approval of the report? Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): A second?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): No sabotem.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. Commissioner Cunningham?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Aye.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Commissioner Shrikathi is absent.
Commissioner Jindy is absent, Vice Chair Joes? Aye. Chair Ryan? Aye.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Motion carries unanimously.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We have… moving on to agenda item
number 3.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The study session for strategies to
meet affordable housing, regional housing needs allocation.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Goes for the 2023 to 2031 Housing
Elevance.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Receiving a presentation? We do.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll go. Alright, good evening.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm Chair in the Housing Commission.
My name is Nikki Meyer for tonight, we've set up a session to identify
additional sites for low-income housing and the Housing Element
Inventory.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We're gonna start with a little bit
of background on what that is, because I understand we have some new
commissioners on… serving on the board.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): The housing element is a state-
acquired long-range plan, for each city and county to produce, right,
since 1969.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And there's a long-range frame to
anticipate and meet affordable housing goals, right? And we do this in a
number of ways. It's through our land use, primarily, but also through
funding that we provide programs and then policies, right, that we adopt
into our code.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): The housing element is one chapter
within something known as the general plan for the city, right? There's
multiple elements within the general plan. One of many chapters, however,
it is unique in that it has to be periodically updated for something
known as the RENA.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So what is the RENA? RENA is
something that stands for Regional Housing Needs Allocation.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): It is… it is a quota, essentially,
that is assigned to cities by HCD, the State Department of Housing and
Community Development, to cities and counties for the purpose of each
jurisdiction providing their own fair share of housing, right? And so
that various income levels of equitable, measurable housing to meet
population and economic growth.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, what that means, in a nutshell,
bigger cities get a bigger arena than smaller cities.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then also, High-income cities
will have a higher unit than, say, lower-income cities.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, on this, slide, we have our
current REMA assignment, right, for the 2023 to 2031 housing development
cycle. You see a breakdown? There's four income categories that we have
to meet.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Very low-income housing?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Which is anything below 50% of the
environment. Low-income housing, between 50% to 80.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): moderate, 80 to 120, and then above
moderate. So above 120, by the way, so it's market rate, right?
Similarly, this is just the only… like, singularly as arena, you can
really think about it as, like, four different requirements, right? We
need to make sure we meet the requirement in four different categories at
all times.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): This is an example.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): of the zoning map. This was created,
when our housing development was certified in 2024 that, identified,
right, some priority housing sites to be, rezoned and identified as
opportunity sites for affordable housing.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We see there's a spot in the middle
that's kind of carved out. That is the heart of the city-specific plan,
which is centered around Sleeping Street Boulevard. It has the most,
right, affordable housing size.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): housing element sites identified.
That's not really…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): necessary for tonight, right? This
is just to give you an example of what can come out of this process,
right?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Why? Because we have to do periodic
inventory maintenance. It's not just done once we get certified.
According to government code 65863, you don't have to memorize it, don't
worry. It's a state law that makes that local governments must maintain
adequate capacity to meet the obligations throughout the site.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Not just at the beginning. And so,
what that means is, like, if there are priority housing sites that do not
produce housing at the expected densities that we have in our home, the
city has 180 days to identify and make available replacement sites.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So let's talk about Cupertino's
progress. We were certified on September 4th, 2024, right? And our RENA
requirement is going to be active until 2031, right? After that,
presumably, we'll be getting a new RENA and new goals to meet.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So far, proposals have been for
medium-density townhomes, right, on most of our sites, despite our zoning
allowing for higher density rental, right? So, rental projects
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Through our inclusionary housing
laws.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): produce very well in low-income
units as a part of that development, right, by design. But townhomes are
ownership, which means they are producing moderate income.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's… that's different from our
expectation, number one. And the other thing that is kind of different in
our expectations is the Valpo Rise proposal, the project, has recently
been resubmitted under new SD423 guidelines.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): that has large reduction for
expected low and very low-income provisions, right? So that is to say.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We are looking to identify
additional sites, right, to continue meeting this goal. So, for our
process and what we're talking about tonight, right, the Housing
Commission is the advisory body to City Council that provides
recommendations for meeting affordable housing goals.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Beanie Arena is definitely an
affordable hospital, right? So we're going to be asking you guys to talk
about strategies to generate additional arena capacity, specifically
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, very wealth and low-income
housing, right? What we're not asking you guys to do tonight is to start
assessing sites, right? Not… we're not talking about specific sites,
we're not talking about specific zoning for those sites, specific land
use for those sites, that is for the Planning Commission, right? And that
will happen at their meeting. That will be happening at a different day.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): All right, so, we've prepared a
couple of proposed strategies, right, to start the discussion. We'll go
over them now. Number one, owner slash developer interest sites. That
means the person who owns a site really, really wants to do housing on
their site that they own.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): This is considered by ACD as a site
that has the highest feasibility for redevelopment, and what I mean by
that is, you know, when we identify sites, we have to submit this list of
sites to ACD for them to accept it.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And so that is what they consider to
be sites, the highest feasibility and reasonable amount. So generally
speaking, neither sites will have the highest resolution.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): In a size inventory.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Another strategy… one strategy.
Another strategy is major corridors, right? So the major arterials in the
city.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): They typically have pre-existing
transit accessibility, underlying infrastructure, they have proximity to
a lot of community resources that makes it a good opportunity for housing
development, right? That also aligns with our city's kind of
sustainability and transportation goals, right? We want to increase
density where it makes the most sense.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And so what a major corridor, you
can imagine, is a place next to Stevens Creek Boulevard, Bienza
Boulevard, Wolf Road, Homestead Avenue, and potentially more, right, if
the Housing Commission suggests more.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): The third strategy to look at is
underperforming commercial, right? So, our current housing proposals that
have been coming in have all been on underperforming commercial sites,
and they have a lot of similarities, right? In the existing site use,
they're…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Older building stock, right? Older
than 20 years, number one. Two, single story in height. Three, conjoined
to a very, very large parking lot. And these are all Class C commercial
buildings that are just kind of right for your development. So, looking
at this strategy is really considering, you know, high economic
feasibility.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): for redevelopment.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): This last item I want to add is not
necessarily a strategy for finding new sites, but it's just something to
consider that we might want to recommend, right? Which is thinking about
minimum density, right? Because if we're going to suggest new sites, it…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): benefits us to try to prevent them
coming in as more townhomes, which come in at the lowest end of allowable
density, right? And… but by design, they are lower density than, say,
apartments, because they have to be on individually subdividable lots. So
if you try to explore a higher minimum density.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): You can try to ensure that we
produce a sufficient amount of units, right, on additional sites.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Then finally, other strategies,
right? This is a study session. The Housing Commission is encouraging to
readjust other strategies, which may have not been provided by staff
tonight. We just want to, also give a disclaimer, right? This
recommendation
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): may or may not be reaffirmed, right?
They may be discontinued by the Planning Commission, because they will be
assessing those individual sites for inclusion, and by the line of that
process, they may decide to either affirm your decision, right, or they
might decide to go in a different direction. That's what they decide.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): But yeah, so…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): For next steps after tonight, right,
we're going to take any suggestions that we get to our consultant who are
trying to identify new sites, and hopefully we'll have a list for
Planning Commission at a future meeting, which will be taken to City
Council, and hopefully for submittal to HCD.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And also, we have another staff in
attendance tonight, Connelly, our Assistant Director, who is kind of like
our lead on all of our long-reach efforts, particularly general plan and
housing only, and he'll be here. He will answer any questions you have,
hopefully that I can.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So we'd like to open it now to the
Commission.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): clarifying questions. Some
clarifying questions.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I have a… You talked about, like,
the drug units being reduced, like, especially at Rice, after we
submitted.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The initial, plans, right?
429
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because you're resubmitting under a
different SB.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, the… and this is all state-
mandated, right? So… but the state is the one that's mandating more
housing.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Why are they providing… I may be
mistaken in my interpretation, so excuse me. I feel like the state is
mandating more housing, but they're also providing loopholes for
developers to reduce
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): That, density.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right? It seems like, I don't know.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, I just went to the.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): There's nothing considered.
436
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): 10 about housing laws at all. So,
the goals that the state wants and the.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): ways that they try to reach them
don't align too often. I think the one common denominator is
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): They're trying to promote housing
development. But you're right, when you look at… the RHNA number was over
4 times greater than the last housing cycle.
439
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): We upzoned.
440
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Almost the capacity for 5,900
units, so we overshot it by 27-28.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): But, yeah, one of the things when
Nikki touched on it, we had a few factors, is you had a number of
developers
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): When our housing… before our
housing element was certified, they submitted applications to lock in a
lower density
443
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Under SB330, which they can do, so
that freezes
444
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): the regulations at that point in
time. So we had a number of the half a dozen or so sites that have been
approved.
445
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Came in lower than what was
allowed.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And they're all… they've all been
town… so the density is typically 17 to 21, 22 units per acre, nothing
higher than that.
447
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Then, even when we had
448
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): the sites that did develop in the
density range, which for townhomes is 20 to 35, they're all right around
20. No one's pushing much beyond that, so we're not getting 35.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And of the housing element sites,
so there's 58 of them.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): About 70%, 40 of them were…
451
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): A minimum 50 per acre or greater,
from 50 to 80.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): We're not getting any development
in that range. We only have one application that's for high density, that
hasn't been approved yet, and that's such actually coming in well over
100 per acre.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I think the one thing we know is
there's this dead zone. There's about 20 per acre, and then if you're
going to get a project that's higher than that, it's much higher than
that.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that's kind of where…
455
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): state and the arena, and this is
not unique to Catino, it puts you in a very difficult situation to try to
get their numbers. One other thing, I think, when you look at the chart.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): A little over 57% of the units were
affordable.
457
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Quinlan Conference Room: Either very low, low, or moderate.
458
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Your BMR requirements, as Nikki had
said earlier, are either 15% for rental or 20% for owner-occupied, so…
459
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Part of the reason Cupertino's
gotten to where we're looking for additional housing sites
460
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): One, even though we had a big
buffer when we approved our housing element.
461
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): In the low and moderate income
categories, the buffer was pretty low. We're way over a market rate. We
have, like, a buffer of 1,000. So we knew we were close.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Second thing is we've gotten a lot
of housing applications, so we're doing great with that. We have a lot of
applications on file, and we've approved a lot. But each time you approve
a project, you essentially lose capacity over what your housing element
estimated.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So if your housing element's
assuming higher proportions of low or moderate income.
464
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And you can only require 15 or 20%.
465
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Almost by approving housing.
466
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): hurt yourself.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because the housing element is…
it's a… it's an estimate exercise, you're looking ahead, so… That's, you
know…
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): In HCD size, the more density you
have, they presume that's going to be more affordable. That's sometimes
true, sometimes not.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): But… that's how we sort of gotten
where we are. If you didn't have
470
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Any applications come in to have
this thing frozen in time, and it would look great.
471
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): But that's why we're already at a
position where we're having to look at more sites.
472
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And in Cupertino's situation, like
most other Bay Area cities, that
473
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): If you're not looking at higher
density sites along the corridor, you're going to keep looking for more
sites.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because small projects or projects
that are very dense, don't really help the city with how large the
numbers are these days. Thousands of units. So, things like ADUs help,
because we get credit for them, but they can only make so much of a
difference with the numbers we're talking about, so…
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): The strategies really aren't any
different than what we looked at when we did the housing element a couple
years ago. We tried to focus along Stevens Creek, De Anza, corridors like
that, where you could get greater density.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I think the other thing we've
seen is where we have had projects…
477
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): In neighborhoods that are even
coming in at townhome densities, there's even more opposition.
478
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): You don't really have the resources
there, so they're further away from places you might want to go, jobs,
stores, things like that.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): But they are even more difficult to
get through the approval process, because middle of a single-family
neighborhood, a three-story townhome looks like really intense
development.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Along Stevens Creek Boulevard less
snow.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, not much has really changed in
our strategy. I think we just found out more what we already know, that
mid-low densities
482
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Not really helping us meet our
freedom.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, now that the city website,
484
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): This was uploaded, earlier in the
month, I believe.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): oh, each other.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's just a,
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): No, the new landscape of housing law
in California. It was uploaded, like, just a couple of weeks back.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): In which, I believe, what it says is
that
489
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The city has zero power to…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): disapprove an application, like, if
something comes in for development.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): You're very limited, yeah. Right?
It's very difficult. Yeah, and then the developer is literally like, oh,
if they have the application, if they meet all the checklist items, then
you have to improve, kind of thing.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): But again, how do you…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): then there's no input from the
community, which probably, I guess, many people will say no to having
high-rise, you know, near the neighborhood. It's going to be harder.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I guess the only places that you
see are Stevens Creek Tenza Corridor, right? Beyond that, there doesn't
seem to be anything else in Cupertina.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): One thought I was thinking, schools
were closing. Elementary schools, I think 3 closed in the past, or a
couple of years back. What's happening to those sites?
496
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Or are we able to, you know, do
something with those?
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): I've got at least one where you've
got a fairly successful private school.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Honestly, that seems to be one of
those ongoing demands, is…
499
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Even though school enrollment is
declining throughout the county. Because of no people. People are not
able to have a shift from public to private. Yes.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): But I don't know any… in terms of
housing sites, we don't have any on school property.
501
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I think a lot of it you'd have.
502
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): That same issue, if it's in the
middle of a single-family neighborhood.
503
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Density's only going to be so high,
nothing beyond townhome density.
504
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right. And you're very likely going
to get a lot of opposition. But at least the.
505
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): the land is there, you know? I mean,
Dianza College took away an apartment complex, right, which was providing
affordable housing.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't remember the number of
units, but, you know, it went to…
507
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): the community college district. So,
in reverse, why can't the city take a state-owned school, you know, if
it's not going to be… they've closed it? Again, I don't know what's
happening to the other closed school sites, but if it's available,
that's.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Certainly, but I think, like, you
know, Nikki had mentioned, too, owner interest is a big factor. You know,
the city doesn't get to decide, hey, these are the sites we want, HCD has
to…
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, if the school district, I
think, were to come forward and want to do, like, a surplus land process
and follow that process.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): that could certainly happen.
They're autonomous from the city, anyway. Yeah, I mean, there's.
511
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So he could sell it to the school
district, hey, this is for…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): your teachers, or people who work in
the district, right? Rather than saying it's housing, you know, just say,
this is for
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): district teachers, because we know,
like, Rice is doing.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right? Having units for, district
employees and teachers.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, but yes.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's what I did.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): family development, but I think the
different… the challenge here is that the school district owns the land,
and the design process is processed through the state, so the state
really doesn't have
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): authority in that process, we can
make suggestions, certainly. Yeah. But if it doesn't suit this or how
they want to utilize it, making sense. Of course, yeah. Yeah, if they
wanted to sort of.
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Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conference Room): They absolutely can do it.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Does the grid symbol up for that?
521
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Maybe that could be a strategy that
they're suggesting, right? Allowing the zoning for a long time.
522
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Flexible use for educational uses,
but also, you know, for health.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, you'd have to rezone. Yeah,
it's converting from a public school to a residential, whatever density,
so, yeah.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): That was the suggested strategy, I
think that's what she's getting at.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, you said, like, one of the
closed schools is occupied by a private school, right? Like, you're
talking about tessellations? That's what I was thinking. Who gets… I
mean, what, they're paying, like, a lease money to who? To this?
526
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Speaker 15 (Quinlan Conference Room): school district. School district
still owns the land.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right, they're a tenant.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So the money goes to the state,
typically. I mean, that's… I mean, the district, right? Goes to the
school district, yeah. School district.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Could I ask the question? I was…
before we get…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): further into suggestions like that,
which are very, very part of the whole deal. But, one of the things I was
noticing in the new applicants, were that the homes, although considered
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): The two young family deputies, yeah,
they're big.
532
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): houses, 2,000 square.
533
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And so, one part of the question I
don't actually need an answer right now, but… so, how does that become
the 10 units that are moderate income? How do those be affordable to
those folks? But anyway, a separate question. Don't need an answer.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because what I'm reading to is that
all of them have come in with that 2,000 or something square feet homes
that are supposed to be all, you know, for young people coming in, and
when we came in.
535
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): you know, 1600, 1500, 1300, those
were… and even those weren't the smallest homes, you know, that, were
available to, young families coming in. So it just astounds me a little
bit.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): obviously don't understand the
mindset of developers, period. And so, my other question was, with
Velcode.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll just call them that for ease. I
did the, they send out their update on what they're doing. It was
November 26th of 2025, and I did the calculations, and percent of the
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): This first tranche of when they're
going to be built, they're 17% of them to be below market rate.
539
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then, when they get finished
with all of the homes, the percent of the total is 13%, which is below
our rental requirement, and… although I think it meets our purchase. But
then, all of a sudden, ding, ding, ding, I went, oh my gosh!
540
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): It doesn't really say. It seems to
kind of slide past that, like, are these rental units?
541
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, I just was assuming they were,
or have they now turned some of their, below-market homes into for-sale
homes? And I don't know if you have that data. They're all rental.
They're what? They're all rental, too.
542
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): They're either low or very low.
There's no moderate or median. Oh, okay.
543
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): because of the way it was said, it
just says, including 232 affordable family units and hundreds of market
rate homes that will be offered for sale. It doesn't say that the below
market rate are offered for rent. It's totally unclear, and I thought,
because of all this other stuff that's going on, I made a bad assumption,
right? Yeah, they…
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): stole.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): 2,669 total units in the price.
Yes, yes, that's… 350 units are affordable, split equally between low and
very low, so it's like 178 very low, 178 low.
546
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Is what they're at now.
547
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): When the project first came in, it
was 50%. Right, it was 50%.
548
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And now it's 13%, so that's… It's
like 13 and a half.
549
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Speaker 16 (Quinlan Conference Room): There are… there are.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And third.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yay, okay, thank you, thank you.
Yeah, exactly right. Okay, well, anyway, so that answers that question. I
don't know if you have a question about what are the sizes of these
dental units?
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): I do not know, I've not looked at
the floor plans. I think they're fairly small, affordable units. Okay,
and… Under 1,000 square feet.
553
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Maybe because they're the rentals,
as opposed to these others, which have been going in, are for purchase.
554
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): moderate rate homes.
555
01:10:40.050 --> 01:10:48.029
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, so that answers those
questions, except for the part where… why there… oh, well, actually, we
found out. Talk to me.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): He said, oh my gosh, what's this
deal with the 13%, and how can they get away with that, and all? And he
said, like, what Matthew had said to us earlier was, those laws don't all
557
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): You know, do that thing, and they,
at least she, the local folks, they're just interested in housing.
558
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Period. And I was so disappointed. I
did not know that YMB only cared about housing and not cared about below-
market rate housing. But that might be the case. Then they said, well,
maybe California YMB works on that. I said, okay.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): But you're the one that's here,
talking to us. So anyway, yeah, I have to admit, I've gotten a little
disappointed with the way the laws work, and I just found out the hard
way, like you did, not today, but recently, that the laws don't.
560
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): work together.
561
01:11:38.620 --> 01:11:46.259
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Often, and that the city does get
stuck. Even when you're trying to do it right, you… it gets beat up.
562
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's difficult to push
affordability, because even HCD, if you had a housing element policy,
say, where you were gonna, like, we're gonna require 30% of our units to
be affordable. Yeah.
563
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): They… 20 is kind of their
threshold. They don't want you to go above that.
564
01:12:00.205 --> 01:12:09.535
Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, wait. That gets… yes. That's
the dilemma cities like Cupertino find themselves in. Urena's 57.5%.
565
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And you can't require more than
one.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, right there on the townhome
project, you can get to 20, but it's going to be difficult of the
remaining 80% to argue any of these 23-2400 square foot for sale units is
affordable.
567
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): You could, if you get smaller
rental units, like…
568
01:12:30.365 --> 01:12:34.515
Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): One-bedroom studio apartments, even
if they're not deed-restricted.
569
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Those are likely affordable units
that you can claim at low or moderate categories, even if they're, you
know, essentially not… their rent is not restricted. Because by design,
what they're actually renting for could be affordable. It's just so far,
this city, we have not been getting projects like that.
570
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So the townhomes… You're not going
to get more than 20% affordability on us.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Also, the city's also looking at
units when we're creating these units, or we're having these discussions,
also looking at how realistic is it to build these units that the city is
suggested?
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right, so, for example, if you were
to provide a strategy to buy a certain number of units or ratio to
district sites, that may not be accepted because the likelihood of that
is very uncertain, so that's something that I'm considering as well.
573
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, sorry, I understand, I'm
sorry, I'll stop and let you go.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, on these, townhomes, where
they have the for purchase and they're theoretically moderate income, why
are they so big? Why would it… is that required, that they be
575
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): as big as the market rate, if
they're trying to make something that's more affordable. I'm not really
not sure how that kicks in with,
576
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): with them being so big, how is it
that they are actually for moderate-rate income people? So…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): The price of a VMAR home is
calculated based on the… On the… The bedroom count. Oh, the bedroom
count.
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): in that unit?
579
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Let's say it's like a 3-bedroom, so
we'll assume it's a family of 3 or 4 people. Yeah. And then you take the…
580
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): The average income of someone in
that income bracket, so a three-person family, the moderate income
bracket. And you can create, basically, an assumed kind of annual income
with that size, divided by 12.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): to get your monthly payments, no, to
get your formal monthly payment. Size is…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): A requirement in our VMR manual that
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): affordable units should be made
comparable to market units in the same development. Like, you can't make
luxury up market rate and have really small, really low quality, quality
units. They've got to be comparable.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And they're similar in size, similar
in features, similar amenities. If they are making enormous units, that's
probably because they want to sell those market rate units inside a
certain market, right? Because they are market rate developers.
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): I understand. Thank you. I don't
like…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I moved it.
587
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): That have been approved.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): The market, the moderate and median
units tend to be a little smaller.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, if you had an average 2,400
square foot, the affordable, or maybe 1,800 to 2,000, tended not to be as
big.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): But like Nikki said, the city's
language is to keep them comparable.
591
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): In terms of square footage, number
of bedrooms, things like that, so…
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, I understand. Thank you. I
have a question.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, recently, I don't know whether
it's been approved or not, but, like, the Palera Bread, YJ coffee, those
areas are going to be converted to…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): townhomes, I suppose, and then the
staples area also, right? Now, this is the main area where we could have
high density.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): of residences. So… One, how can the
city mandate a high-density development?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Number two, can we add more rental?
Because rental units tend to be more lower income.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): For low-income families compared to
ownership, right?
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Short answer is no. Hold.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): You can upzone more, but the two
sites you're talking about, the Fontana's Restaurant, Staples, that was…
all of those were housing outline properties, but that was one of the
SB330 applications, locked in the lower density.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): the Panera Bread, one of the four
properties was also a housing element site, was also locked in at a lower
density. Now that one's even more interesting, because about two-thirds
of the units, a little under, are essentially
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): single-family homes.
602
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): With very little space between
them.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So they look like townhomes, but…
604
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): you know, they're very vertical,
but they don't share common walls.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, would the developer made the
decision to change the density? I mean, you would think that the more
units, they'd make more money, right? That's not…
606
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's all how it works. It's, like I
said, they're either gonna…
607
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Come in around 20, or they're gonna
go over 100.
608
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Everything in between that,
nobody's building at that, at least for right now.
609
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that's what has been happening.
It really is all the developer's call, because once you have 5 or more
units and you qualify for a state density bonus, how you design your
project is up to you, and the city really has almost no ability to alter
the design.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, floor area, building height
setbacks, all of those things are… if you look through all the projects
we've approved.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): They're all waived uniformly.
612
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, it's…
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): I agree with you. I came up doing
this thinking the more density, the more money you make. Yeah. And that's
not the way it is.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Can I ask a question?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): about,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I thought the term SB330 was only
attached to some of the applicants. You know, they came in before our
housing element was approved and all that.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Are we almost finished with those,
or does it, like, not make any difference, because the same rules that
you're talking about apply any of the new ones, too? It won't matter that
they're SB331.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): SP330 is in effect all the time, so
it's the Housing Crisis Act. What it means is you file a preliminary
application, which is very brief, you essentially meet a city's
checklist, and you lock in what you have at this point in time.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): But if you were to do that now on a
Housing Elements site, it wouldn't matter, because those sites have been
up-zoned. Yes.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. But what we did go through
last time as the housing element was getting close to certified, that's
where people locked in the lower density because they wanted to build.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): But SB330 is still in effect.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And we still have some applicants
that are using that particular.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's not making a difference now.
It's not making a difference now. The ones that logged that in, I think,
have all gone through the approval process. But we still, like, you know.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Our range… our density range is 20
to 35. You're only ever going to get around 20.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): You're not… no one's going to 3035,
so this is why we're…
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): If you're not getting that target
range, 50 or more, our highest density is… 65 to 80.
627
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, if you're… unless you're… you
need to hit that range in order to get somebody to build identity.
628
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): To really make a difference with
the numbers we're talking about.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So you mentioned in the beginning,
like, there's a number of units that's approved under the housing
elements, right?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And we have to keep track of that,
and make sure if it goes down in one of the sites, it needs to be made up
somewhere else.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): you… well, right? We can't really
lose that number, we need to… What is the…
632
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): what holds us to that number?
Because if the city can't need it.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): State's take as the city needs to
meet it.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right. Which is why you end up
looking for more additional sites, so…
635
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And you can't transfer, like I
said, we have a big buffer in market rate units. We're never going to
have to worry about that, but you can't say, well, we have a big buffer
there, we're going to transfer that into the low and moderate income.
Each income category is essentially its own read-in. Right, right. And I
look back when we went through the housing element, that's something I
think is, like.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): You probably should discuss it that
way. It's, like, by income category.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): They're treated as entirely
separate things.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, like, Cupertino has no problem
eating market rates production. Of course. That's easy. It's just the
other categories, I think other cities have that same issue with.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): How do you tell us over 50% of our
housing has to be affordable in some category?
640
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): But we can never require anything
close to that.
641
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): The only way you get there is you
have to have smaller, more affordable-by-design units get built.
642
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, the city does have one high-
density project for Cupertino on a housing element site. It's coming in
over 130 units per acre.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): But that's not approved, but that's
because it's rental, and it's two-thirds of it is one-bedroom or studio
units.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So a project like that is not only
going to get you a lot of units, but it's going to get you a lot of
affordable units. That's just really rare. It's the only one we have on
file.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do ADUs count in this? Every new
unit counts, so, like, we get credit. If somebody builds a project on a
non-housing element site, we get credit for it.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. But in terms of tracking…
647
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): What we've committed to through the
housing element, only housing element sites.
648
01:22:17.940 --> 01:22:21.180
Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): are what we're talking about here.
They're their own category.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I was gonna ask you, because the
minimum density sounds like
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Great strategy. I guess the question
about it is.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): How does that… that's okay? Like, we
can do that, and then the developers need to go with that once it's
approved? Or is there going to be some more of that other wealth? We
didn't have that in place until here? That could happen again.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah. Once you identify sites, if
somebody was interested in site, and we were going to upzone it
considerably.
654
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): They could file an application
before it's resold.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): How about it going? Oh.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, so that being said, I also
then was wondering about
657
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Is there a way to maybe advertise
to, the affordable Affordable housing developers.
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): Hey!
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): We would really like you to come
here.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): build some housing, because they're
willing, apparently, not to go for
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): you know, the highest thing, but how
does that work? I mean, because we know we have Eden Housing for the
teacher, and we have Charity's Housing for this other one, and I know
there are… I don't know if there's enough of them, but there's a number
of,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Companies that are non-profit, that
build homes.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): How do we get them here interested
in our…
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): I mean, we talked to everybody.
When we went through the housing element, I mean, I started here
665
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): almost 3 years on that. We met
nonprofits, market rate developers, everybody.
666
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): If the problem is who gives the
site, who acquires the site.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because they… they control it. So,
yeah, of the 58 properties, only 2 were 100% affordable.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Area Avenue, which is city-owned.
That was entirely low.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And the teacher housing site just
north of Valco is also… that's the county back. That's county, right? So
the other 56 are pretty much whoever is going to develop them.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So can we provide more incentives to
developers? I mean, like, you're funding, you're giving funds to all the
non-profit organizations.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I mean, it feels like a bad thing to
do, but can you say, hey, developer, you know, we'll give you this
incentive of…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): a percentage, or whatever. If you
built more rental units, more higher density.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): projects. I don't know. The city
can… maybe there's a tax incentive, or some sort of incentive can the
city provide to encourage, rather than saying they want to do townhome
and just say, okay, go ahead, kind of thing, right?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, what can the city provide?
This is like keeping a business, right? Like, Apple, I know, the city's
giving them a lot of incentives to keep them here, so… can something like
that be done? When a developer comes and proposes.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): affordable housing beyond our
minimum requirements. We do grant incentives in terms of impact fee
waivers, so, like, park impact fee waivers.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): there's, like, a street sewer one,
right? A bunch of different ones to basically lower the cost of
construction. That helps a lot. Yeah, it comes to, kind of, building that
funding stack, right?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): If you want to get 100% affordable
housing, though, there's a lot of things that need
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): to come together to make that
happen, and number one being, tax credit awards, because that makes up
the bulk of their… their funding stack. And typically, to be awarded
those, you need to be an established nonprofit developer that can make
sure that you have the experience to do research development.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, like, we can… we can… we can
give local incentives, right? But ultimately, you're… you're pretty much
only ever going to see affordable, non-profit
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): developers coming in with those
kinds of, like, proposals, right? Because they're really the only people
that can win those tax credits.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): already be… they can't decide as a
regular developer. They can't decide, you know, I'd like to build some
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): 100%.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll just… I'll just do that,
because I've made a lot of money here, and so I'll just do that. They
can't… they couldn't just decide to do that. They would have to be some
kind of…
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): A separate.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): They could create, like, a
charitable entity to do their affordable development, right? I think by
each statute, right, I think they can only award tax credits to
nonprofits, because they don't want to be awarding tax credits to for-
profit developments, right? That's…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's some… that's a system that
can be kind of taken advantage of.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. Yeah.
688
01:27:17.380 --> 01:27:20.899
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, when residents are building
ADUs.
689
01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:24.370
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's not always for the purposes
of housing.
690
01:27:24.540 --> 01:27:27.580
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): And so how do you get credit for
691
01:27:28.140 --> 01:27:33.150
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Local residents just wanting an
expansion or an annex to their
692
01:27:33.530 --> 01:27:36.459
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): to their housing. How do we get
credit for that?
693
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): ADU, we give credit for through the
building, but this is seen as a new unit. Regardless of how it's used, we
can't track that. If it's a family member, if it's rented out.
694
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Quinlan Conference Room: City gets credit for it.
695
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then also, but you said it
doesn't count in the housing element. Housing element, yeah, it doesn't
count that, yeah.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, we get… every April 1st, you
submit your housing report to the state to show what you entitled and
what you build, and you get credit for those things, whether it's a
housing element site or not.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): You also get a certain percentage of
that is credited as below market rate, even though you can't track any of
that, right? A certain percentage gets tracked as… gets credited as BMR,
even though it's not necessarily.
698
01:28:22.065 --> 01:28:22.835
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): And you can't really.
699
01:28:22.835 --> 01:28:27.814
Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's not dating restrictive, but
it's kind of, like I was saying, was if you build a studio apartment.
700
01:28:28.385 --> 01:28:44.485
Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, it would be crazy to say
2,500 square foot town of a studio apartment, items need-restricted, that
they have equal affordability, because they don't. And ADUs, they're
typically, you know, like, 10% are market rate, and it's like 10, 30, 30,
30.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So you do get credit for the low-
moderate bundles.
702
01:28:48.965 --> 01:28:53.324
Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Can we talk about very low income,
low income, moderate income?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): For, let's say, you know, the
example, so 3 to 4 family members, what are we talking about? What's the
defining?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I have to look that up. The state
releases
705
01:29:05.445 --> 01:29:21.104
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): based on the county you live in,
what is your… your average median income for that county, for, like, a
four-person family? And then they also, like, break down to, like, okay,
what if you're a three-person family, two-person, 1-person? And it's all
going to be, like, you know, increasing the bigger the family.
706
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then, from there, there's, like,
the bell distribution of, like, who is below 80% of that distribution,
that's the low income, who is below 50% of that distribution, the very
low income, for each of those families' families, right? That's how they
calculate it. They release those every year.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, you can actually look this up,
or I can send it to you. It's just… Oh, that'd be great. Yeah, and then
they also release what is your maximal allowable rent per category,
right?
708
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's true.
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Is this county-based, or city-based?
County-based.
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Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Again, Santa Clara is the highest
state, I think, the family of four is, like, 192, 195. It's getting close
to 200 miles a day.
712
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): This is the median, income you're
talking about right here. Right, median.
713
01:30:05.225 --> 01:30:14.224
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): But depends on which part of the
county, too. Like, Cupertino is kind of on a higher end compared to, say,
San Jose, South San Jose, so…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, it's not perfect. Yeah. Give
some idea.
715
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Sharon, can we go to public comment?
716
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, yes.
717
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): We have no speakers in person, and
no hands raised virtually.
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01:30:32.030 --> 01:30:40.090
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, so, we, this is just a study
session, so let me just, yeah.
719
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): All the suggestions, right, we're
taking these to our consultant as we try to identify more sites for the
housing element, and we heard a lot of good ideas tonight, right? Some
suggestions that we can try to explore.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Now the feasibility, we'd have to
look into, right? Because ultimately, there's two audiences for the
housing element, right? There's our local audience trying to get approved
by city council, and then there's the state, who may or may not accept
those choices. But yeah, we'll try to do our best to try to marry those
two.
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, next item for the agenda?
722
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, well, we have to vote on this
one first.
723
01:31:20.620 --> 01:31:22.500
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Are we voting on this thing?
724
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): You can vote to, close discussion,
if you're… Yeah, that's what I thought.
725
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, I don't know.
726
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): To close the discussion? To close
the discussion. To close the discussion, okay, yeah. So we, we have a
motion to close the discussion?
727
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll make a motion to close the
discussion. Any seconds? Second.
728
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Commissioner Cunningham?
729
01:31:42.190 --> 01:31:43.100
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Aye.
730
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Commissioner Coffey is absent,
Commissioner Jindy is absent, Vice Chair Jones? Aye. Chair Narayan? Aye.
731
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, the next item on the… Customed
Reports.
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01:32:04.980 --> 01:32:12.569
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I have one that, attended the
mayor's meeting for the Commissioner's update last week.
733
01:32:12.860 --> 01:32:29.229
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): It was really interesting. I'm
attending as a chair for the first time, and with the new mayor, so I've
got to say that, our new mayor is very energetic, with a lot of ideas,
and I love her new initiative. She has a new initiative called
734
01:32:29.290 --> 01:32:37.149
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): move more with Mayor Moore, so… so
that's her new initiative.
735
01:32:37.150 --> 01:32:49.559
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): She has all these, activities
planned, and, the upcoming… in the next month is yoga and Bollywood in
the park. So, she's very excited about getting people to move, and,
736
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think he did, like, a bike to
work.
737
01:32:51.960 --> 01:33:10.049
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): event last, last month, or last
week. Anyway, and then, the main thing that I wanted to share was she,
emphasized that there is this, informational memos in the city website,
which, after hearing that, I went and looked up. It's like.
738
01:33:10.570 --> 01:33:29.930
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): has, like, tons of valuable
information up there, which I think is very useful for all the
commissioners to keep up to date on, and encourage residents to read that
up, you know, just to know that they're… what's happening in the city.
So, which is really interesting.
739
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): Question about that.
740
01:33:30.665 --> 01:33:39.625
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Is that something you can sign up to
have sent to you, just like you have other things signed that you go in
and sign up, and you get…
741
01:33:39.625 --> 01:33:41.885
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): They might, they might have a
little.
742
01:33:41.885 --> 01:33:45.645
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm not sure. Yeah, so please.
743
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, once something is uploaded.
That's great, because then you could sign up for it, and it'd be sent to
you, and then you wouldn't have to go in each time. So, if that were
possible, that would be…
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01:33:54.645 --> 01:34:08.235
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so the three memos that I
found really useful for our commission is the housing element no net loss
law requirements that was uploaded. So you just called Housing Element No
Net Loss.
745
01:34:08.235 --> 01:34:18.935
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, yes. Requirements. Yeah. That
was uploaded, Jan of 2026. And then the March 2026 memo was Status of
Homelessness in Cupertino.
746
01:34:19.235 --> 01:34:29.815
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then the third one was a May
15th memo, the New Landscape of Housing Law in California. So I think
these are really good memos for us to…
747
01:34:30.005 --> 01:34:31.514
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Be aware of.
748
01:34:31.595 --> 01:34:45.014
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then she was continuing her
monthly chat series with the mayor, and she provided updates on the Wolf
Road and I-280 improvement that's happening.
749
01:34:45.015 --> 01:34:53.075
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, those were the main things. And,
of course, the other, commissions gave updates on each of their
commissions.
750
01:34:54.685 --> 01:35:11.825
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): They can… they can just go to their
meeting minutes and read. There's a lot of information to just, quickly
get. But the Planning Commission is where I heard about the… the
townhome, Debblint on Bandley Drive, and then that Voyager, and, Panera
Bread.
751
01:35:11.925 --> 01:35:27.184
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): places to be replaced. Oh, the other
important thing, the Public Safety Commission, they talked about, an app
called Genesis, G-E-N-A-S-Y-S, app to download on your phones.
752
01:35:27.185 --> 01:35:40.694
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because this is, like, an address-
based emergency notification, so it will… for example, if you're in a
particular area, so if there's an emergency for that area, you get the
notification.
753
01:35:40.735 --> 01:35:44.905
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Compared to the alert SCC, which is
a county-based.
754
01:35:45.015 --> 01:35:56.434
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So she talked about the two
emergency communication systems. And, the Technology Commission is
working to develop strategies to reduce, AI-generated scams and frauds.
755
01:35:56.440 --> 01:35:57.230
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Just call.
756
01:35:57.625 --> 01:36:07.385
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, that was the mayor's meeting,
and last month, Commissioner Cunningham and myself attended the
homelessness
757
01:36:07.785 --> 01:36:11.035
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Strata workshop. Oh, true, led by
the cone.
758
01:36:11.370 --> 01:36:12.970
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): So Israel.
759
01:36:12.975 --> 01:36:23.225
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I thought it was really eye-opening
for us, because there were non-profit organizations and city officials,
and people with lived experience.
760
01:36:23.295 --> 01:36:37.144
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): who came and attended, and we talked
about… the whole workshop was in, like, four focus areas, how to prevent,
and then how to help them, so it was really an eye-opening. Part of it
along.
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01:36:37.405 --> 01:36:38.235
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thank you, did you?
762
01:36:38.235 --> 01:36:39.995
Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, yeah.
763
01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:43.010
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so it's a really nice
workshop.
764
01:36:43.900 --> 01:36:51.340
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thank you so very much. Oh, yeah,
yeah, of course, yeah. Yeah, that is very nice, really good to.
765
01:36:52.610 --> 01:36:57.060
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, so we have… the next item is
future agenda setting.
766
01:36:57.065 --> 01:36:59.645
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): want the staff reports? We have, we
have some.
767
01:36:59.645 --> 01:37:01.595
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay.
768
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): these. Last month, the City Council
approved an update to their Commissioner's Handbook, so we just printed
out some copies to share for you all.
769
01:37:11.285 --> 01:37:13.824
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): any new changes are not complicated.
770
01:37:14.610 --> 01:37:31.839
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, that's the same. That all
commissions will now have an alternate non-voting member added. Oh, oh.
Yeah. Oh, that's the new idea. It kind of gets automatically upgraded
whenever there's a vacancy, right? To try to, like, limit the amount of
time…
771
01:37:31.870 --> 01:37:34.839
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): When there's, difficulty, right,
finding a…
772
01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:39.680
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, you guys might be getting a 6
sometime soon, I guess. Could be cool.
773
01:37:39.950 --> 01:37:40.590
Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that'll.
774
01:37:40.595 --> 01:37:42.834
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll be in the next… when we have
the next round.
775
01:37:42.835 --> 01:37:43.575
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): of just, like.
776
01:37:43.580 --> 01:37:50.330
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): That'll be when the city clerk has
the capacity to do recruitments for every single commission, I think.
Okay.
777
01:37:50.335 --> 01:37:51.855
Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yep.
778
01:37:51.855 --> 01:37:54.814
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): You said non-voiding alternate
member?
779
01:37:54.815 --> 01:38:03.885
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, they kind of, like, get
automatically upgraded once there's a vacancy, right? So, like, they can
view them to, like, stay informed, and then once there's a vacancy, they
kind of… They're small then.
780
01:38:03.890 --> 01:38:04.779
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, thank you.
781
01:38:04.785 --> 01:38:08.164
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): That way, they would be more
knowledgeable. Yeah.
782
01:38:08.415 --> 01:38:11.264
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, that sounds very interesting.
Thank you for art.
783
01:38:11.645 --> 01:38:13.165
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Then, I thought.
784
01:38:13.165 --> 01:38:30.464
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): one announcement. So, back in
December, we met on, study items to kind of include for further… when it
comes to anti-displacement and tenant protections. So, we talked with the
City Mayor's office about how we can basically
785
01:38:30.685 --> 01:38:42.415
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): build this in to our work plan, and
procedurally, we think the way that we want to proceed with this is that
I can basically draft some kind of, like, letter or memo,
786
01:38:42.455 --> 01:38:49.545
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): asking the Council to basically add…
we had 3 items that are… that were policy items, right? One was,
787
01:38:49.555 --> 01:39:02.935
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): eviction protection, right? Rent
stabilization, and one was kind of, like, deposit fee regulations. So
adding those for study into, like, the city work plan for, like, maybe,
like, the next 3 years.
788
01:39:02.935 --> 01:39:10.225
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right? So, kind of, it was designed
to really look at each one individually, and of course, being up to you
guys, right? Where you're watching that, and take it to City Council.
789
01:39:10.225 --> 01:39:24.285
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that might look like basically me
drafting a letter and having maybe the chair, right, sign it and send it
to City Council to request it to react to the City Board Plan. But yeah,
so that's an update on that.
790
01:39:24.285 --> 01:39:24.945
Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm sorry.
791
01:39:24.950 --> 01:39:30.060
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I didn't hear everything you said
about what that letter is about.
792
01:39:30.065 --> 01:39:41.104
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's the tenant protection item that
we studied in December. So we're going to be asking the chair to sign a
letter to send to City Council, basically asking that that be added into
our city work plan.
793
01:39:41.430 --> 01:39:42.079
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, into the.
794
01:39:42.085 --> 01:39:45.415
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, thank you, I understand that.
795
01:39:45.420 --> 01:39:52.249
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): finalized for the next, say, like, 3
years of work. Yeah. Because we're going to be looking at each one of
these individually and citing them for proposals. Yeah.
796
01:39:52.700 --> 01:39:53.860
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Great idea.
797
01:39:54.250 --> 01:39:55.409
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'd like those.
798
01:39:56.710 --> 01:39:58.949
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Before we go on to the future
agenda.
799
01:39:59.100 --> 01:40:08.780
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): If we, I don't… so if we have come
up with any other new strategies for housing element, we can just email
to you? Yeah.
800
01:40:09.155 --> 01:40:10.675
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): Absolutely. Oh, oh, anything else?
801
01:40:10.675 --> 01:40:15.445
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Anything else that we can come up
with? Any ideas? Personality.
802
01:40:16.005 --> 01:40:17.355
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yes, yeah.
803
01:40:17.635 --> 01:40:21.215
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, future agenda setting.
804
01:40:22.245 --> 01:40:25.604
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do we want to add? Yeah, because I
was wanting to add.
805
01:40:25.605 --> 01:40:33.464
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): as a future agenda item, and so I
can discuss… well, we don't discuss it, we just say what it is, but I had
talked about it.
806
01:40:33.465 --> 01:40:34.464
Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): for the shelter.
807
01:40:34.470 --> 01:40:38.099
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): locations, right? You're talking
about the parking lot.
808
01:40:38.420 --> 01:40:46.540
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Safety parking, yeah, safety,
because the idea came from the… So, you know.
809
01:40:46.540 --> 01:40:47.130
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): have it.
810
01:40:47.130 --> 01:40:57.109
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): later. We don't have to discuss it
here. I understand we don't discuss the star here, but the main idea is
to, create, a,
811
01:40:57.330 --> 01:41:08.479
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): safe parking plan that is more
robust and all that, similar to the one that's in the article. I think I
gave you a copy of that? Yes. Okay, that was.
812
01:41:08.485 --> 01:41:10.005
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Mountain View.
813
01:41:10.010 --> 01:41:12.859
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): It is, but that being said, the…
814
01:41:13.250 --> 01:41:23.369
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): city, the county supervisor is
asking… wanting to work with everyone to create a regional look at it,
and so I'm thinking.
815
01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:33.250
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): We would want to be in it. The
article doesn't say anything about us being in it, and I would like us to
be in it, so I wanted to add it to our list of, of
816
01:41:33.350 --> 01:41:48.040
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): future agendas so that we can
discuss it, and perhaps urge the City Council to join, because I'm not
sure how the process works, but that's… that's the idea. Yeah. Do we have
a second to that item?
817
01:41:48.730 --> 01:41:50.349
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's open. Okay.
818
01:42:01.830 --> 01:42:08.280
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think we also wanted to have a
study session for the BMR manager, right?
819
01:42:08.595 --> 01:42:14.574
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We will have, rescheduled a session
with you guys for office.
820
01:42:15.175 --> 01:42:17.044
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Excuse me? 13th.
821
01:42:17.185 --> 01:42:18.495
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, that was the one that you.
822
01:42:18.500 --> 01:42:19.660
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's right.
823
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And that'll be to study the Housing
Mitigation Manual, what it does, what it requires.
824
01:42:26.780 --> 01:42:29.439
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I think there was a request just
on, like.
825
01:42:29.570 --> 01:42:36.060
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): what's been the BMR inclusionary
housing has produced that we can find it?
826
01:42:36.070 --> 01:42:51.129
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So warn you guys, the trail runs
full at around 2007-ish. After that, the files are all, like, in paper
and, like, in various… I don't know, it's hard to find records from older
than that, so we can basically go back to 2007.
827
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): For what? For historical housing
production, yeah. Oh, oh, historical housing production.
828
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Quinlan Conference Room: Okay.
829
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because the purpose of… of
understanding that below the market rate manual, I was…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): kind of surprised that after being
on this commission for 7 years, I didn't know anything about the for-
purchase piece of BMR, because we hadn't ever had any talked about it, it
was just never part of our… So, anyway, I've had to come up to speed
pretty fast, and I was thinking for…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Coming up to speed pretty fast on
everything.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): Anyway, it might.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): English soil.
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): All over the people that might be.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): point of view.
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): Will we have some.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): to come and give that presentation
kind of thing for this study session, or what would be the format of
that?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): study session, just to consult with
the BMR Cosm Mitigation Manual in August, is gonna be me.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, when the item… for, exploring…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): updating our fee schedule, our PMR
fee schedule, which is a part of the housing mitigation Manual. For that,
we'll probably have a consultant there with us who kind of does these
kind of financial analysis for.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): When you say fee schedule, not
talking about the 20% and the… Nope. What are we talking about?
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): For the free schedule.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Let's save that, let's save that
for… for all those. Yeah, I… that… that's basically going to be the whole
topic, of, like, what are the fees we collect for… it basically informs
what goes into the BMR fund, right?
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): all that app. Yeah. Got it. Yeah.
Okay, thank you. No problem.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Or any other items that need to be
added?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The phantom?
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): Ready to adjourn the meeting?
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Speaker 17 (Quinlan Conference Room): Mr.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, 7-14th, adjourned the meeting?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I call a motion to adjourn the
meeting.
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Quinlan Conference Room: Very well done.