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Home My WebLink AboutBPC 07-15-2026 Youtube and Zoom TranscriptionWEBVTT 1 00:00:02.029 --> 00:00:02.830 Quinlan Conf Room: Out. 2 00:00:02.950 --> 00:00:12.919 Quinlan Conf Room: Good evening, everybody. This is the Bicycle and Pedestrian Commission meeting. Today is July 15, 2026. I'm calling this order. 3 00:00:13.200 --> 00:00:19.459 Quinlan Conf Room: And wanted to ask to conduct a roll call for for tonight. 4 00:00:21.660 --> 00:00:30.330 Quinlan Conf Room: Chair Eschlich. Here. Vice chair, Muddy Papa. Yes, Commissioner Ganga. Yes, Commissioner Marcy. Commissioner Wolf. Here. 5 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:31.830 Quinlan Conf Room: Have a form. 6 00:00:32.310 --> 00:00:44.469 Quinlan Conf Room: Excellent. Thank you so much. So that takes us to our 1st item on the agenda tonight, which is the approval of the leading minutes from our new 26 meeting. 7 00:00:45.430 --> 00:00:48.909 Quinlan Conf Room: The medium names have been distributed. 8 00:00:49.020 --> 00:00:52.159 Quinlan Conf Room: I'm looking for either a motion to approve. 9 00:00:52.730 --> 00:00:57.850 Quinlan Conf Room: For some commentary and feedback and discussion, also, we will respond later on. 10 00:00:58.620 --> 00:01:03.829 Quinlan Conf Room: I have a comment, because it's mentioned here that I reported on the mayor's meeting. 11 00:01:04.269 --> 00:01:05.799 Quinlan Conf Room: I don't think I think so. 12 00:01:09.330 --> 00:01:15.810 Quinlan Conf Room: Running for the future agenda settings the last night and right before. 13 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:26.090 Quinlan Conf Room: I'll see reported on the yeah. And even if there's a maze meeting, it's usually the care that goes right. Yeah, there was. There was not. 14 00:01:26.700 --> 00:01:29.620 Quinlan Conf Room: I don't know where that came from. 15 00:01:29.670 --> 00:01:48.899 Quinlan Conf Room: Was it the Vta. I think you should be a report on the Vta. Yeah, I thought I never. I remember really reporting on the week. But that was not the. We can fix that. Yeah, we can. We can fix. Yeah. 16 00:01:49.900 --> 00:01:50.780 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. 17 00:01:51.230 --> 00:01:54.279 Quinlan Conf Room: Any other feedback in the meeting minutes? 18 00:02:19.170 --> 00:02:22.929 Quinlan Conf Room: If not, do we have a motion for 2 with that correction? 19 00:02:25.780 --> 00:02:27.180 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, I will. 20 00:02:27.510 --> 00:02:33.510 Quinlan Conf Room: I wouldn't. Okay, we have a motion to move the meeting minutes with the correction. Do we have a second as well? 21 00:02:33.970 --> 00:02:34.970 Quinlan Conf Room: Second. 22 00:02:35.540 --> 00:02:38.200 Quinlan Conf Room: Well, thank you. So we have the proper 23 00:02:38.530 --> 00:02:42.489 Quinlan Conf Room: motion. The second, can we do a vote phase? 24 00:02:47.180 --> 00:02:51.040 Quinlan Conf Room: before motion to approve the May 20. 25 00:02:51.200 --> 00:02:54.340 Quinlan Conf Room: 2026 Ppc. Minutes. 26 00:02:54.910 --> 00:03:00.630 Quinlan Conf Room: with the correction noted on Commissioner Marcy's Report out. 27 00:03:00.740 --> 00:03:02.380 Quinlan Conf Room: How do you vote, Sarah Sch 28 00:03:02.980 --> 00:03:11.840 Quinlan Conf Room: Approved. Vice Chair Maripala. Commissioner Ganga. Yes. Commissioner Marcy. Yes. Commissioner Wolf. Yes. Motion passes 5, sir. 29 00:03:12.650 --> 00:03:15.720 Quinlan Conf Room: Excellent. Thank you. 30 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:31.230 Quinlan Conf Room: it takes us into oral communications. This part of the meeting is reserved tonight for topics that are not on the agenda. So if anybody has any topics that they wanted to bring up tonight. 31 00:03:31.260 --> 00:03:39.240 Quinlan Conf Room: that are not on the agenda. This is the opportunity, and it's limited to 3 min per speaker. Do we have any 32 00:03:39.580 --> 00:03:44.949 Quinlan Conf Room: All communication… feedback in this discussion, either online or in the room. 33 00:03:47.430 --> 00:03:50.269 Quinlan Conf Room: Yes, we have one speaker here. 34 00:03:51.590 --> 00:03:53.899 Quinlan Conf Room: Let me share my screen. 35 00:03:56.170 --> 00:04:04.039 Quinlan Conf Room: We usually use this blue form. You can fill it out afterwards as well. It's not important, but just for the record. 36 00:04:04.640 --> 00:04:11.450 Quinlan Conf Room: information here. But please come, come forward. And yeah, yeah. So 37 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:22.180 Quinlan Conf Room: I missed the last month's meeting, and two months ago, we presented some issues of many potential dangers on the 38 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:25.680 Quinlan Conf Room: Dangerous on the prospect road and wire. 39 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:27.450 Quinlan Conf Room: By a wrongful. 40 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:35.339 Quinlan Conf Room: and I don't know what's the decision. If you guys discussed about that last month Commission meeting. 41 00:04:35.530 --> 00:04:48.419 Quinlan Conf Room: So, adding about adding crosswalk and also other signals to the perspective. So, any… I just want to follow up. Any… Yeah, decisions? Thank you for your follow-up. So, we have, recorded your… 42 00:04:48.420 --> 00:05:00.779 Quinlan Conf Room: feedback your inquiry in our future agenda meeting setting items, and we pick from the list every meeting, so this is one of the items that will come up in one of the four items there. We didn't have a meeting in June, by the way, so we… 43 00:05:00.830 --> 00:05:09.949 Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, so there was no meeting in June. This is the the next meeting, so to say, after your presentation. I see so. But 44 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.940 Quinlan Conf Room: Putting that in the future means, as we discussed about that. 45 00:05:14.130 --> 00:05:25.060 Quinlan Conf Room: And then, after a few years, or after? No, no, no, it's not probably a few years. Yeah, yeah, so I'll have to know about it. We will try to be as possible, as soon as possible, as soon as it fits the agenda. I cannot give you a 46 00:05:25.400 --> 00:05:28.309 Quinlan Conf Room: So, because right now, many… 47 00:05:28.620 --> 00:05:40.460 Quinlan Conf Room: bikers and going across the street, which is very dangerous. And I think it's very important to take action. We can take it seriously. Yeah, so… 48 00:05:40.850 --> 00:05:54.979 Quinlan Conf Room: Well, I want to follow up. What's the action items on that? Yeah, as I said, we have it on the future agenda item setting list, and we will pick from that list for next future meetings, and then that will be handled. 49 00:05:55.330 --> 00:06:03.930 Quinlan Conf Room: able to sign up for notifications as well from the city when you, when my trip commission meetings are happening, so that you'll be 50 00:06:04.050 --> 00:06:10.300 Quinlan Conf Room: So how many items are ahead of that? Like, today we have 3 items, for example. 51 00:06:10.520 --> 00:06:18.839 Quinlan Conf Room: And before that, I cannot tell you that, as I told you, and I will inform you once the meeting is scheduled. 52 00:06:19.510 --> 00:06:23.469 Quinlan Conf Room: I just try to have a sense how long it will take. 53 00:06:24.070 --> 00:06:29.529 Quinlan Conf Room: a few months, or a few years, right? So, I cannot tell you, but it's not gonna be a few years. 54 00:06:29.830 --> 00:06:31.320 Quinlan Conf Room: You mean within this year? 55 00:06:33.200 --> 00:06:40.740 Quinlan Conf Room: let's move on. I think we we covered this extensively now. So let's take the next item on the agenda. Thank you very much for your 56 00:06:44.590 --> 00:06:50.819 Quinlan Conf Room: So we have, any other oral communication? We have no speakers. 57 00:06:51.440 --> 00:06:52.799 Quinlan Conf Room: No, thank you. 58 00:06:54.270 --> 00:06:57.020 Quinlan Conf Room: Then that takes us to our… 59 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:03.070 Quinlan Conf Room: Next item on the agenda, which is the Cupertino Active Transportation Plan. 60 00:07:03.290 --> 00:07:08.919 Quinlan Conf Room: We have… in presentation, but positive. 61 00:07:09.930 --> 00:07:11.090 Quinlan Conf Room: at, I believe. 62 00:07:12.030 --> 00:07:13.810 Quinlan Conf Room: Stop it. Yes. 63 00:07:15.370 --> 00:07:16.739 Quinlan Conf Room: Plug them in. 64 00:07:20.250 --> 00:07:24.120 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. And then… share… 65 00:07:25.200 --> 00:07:36.110 Quinlan Conf Room: All right. So good evening, Bicycle Passenger Commission. My name is Matt Schrader, Senior Transportation Planner. I'll be providing an update on the ATP and where we're at in the process. 66 00:07:36.790 --> 00:07:41.509 Quinlan Conf Room: So, the last time we were before BPC was in February, where… 67 00:07:42.110 --> 00:07:49.640 Quinlan Conf Room: Mission provided recommendations related to the project prioritization criteria, specifically the project list. 68 00:07:50.380 --> 00:08:03.220 Quinlan Conf Room: Those recommendations were that the safety scoring seemed to be overweighted, and that the vision 0 scoring should be increased, which is consistent with what we heard or sorry planning commission. 69 00:08:04.870 --> 00:08:14.190 Quinlan Conf Room: And then in April, we took those recommendations to the City Council, along with all the Phase 2 materials that were reviewed by the 2 bodies. 70 00:08:14.370 --> 00:08:18.899 Quinlan Conf Room: We also presented to the City Council, two scenarios. 71 00:08:19.010 --> 00:08:32.390 Quinlan Conf Room: we showed them, alright, here's the project list as is, and then here's what would happen to the projects if we implemented those recommended changes. So the projects that relied more heavily on the safety scoring naturally fell lower, or the school scoring, rather. 72 00:08:32.390 --> 00:08:40.500 Quinlan Conf Room: Felt lower, but the projects that were, you know, more dependent on the Vision Zero scoring, those increased, and the projects that 73 00:08:40.549 --> 00:08:46.330 Quinlan Conf Room: We're both a suggested route to school, and also on the high injury network, those remain relatively flat. 74 00:08:46.650 --> 00:08:55.529 Quinlan Conf Room: So after hearing that, the Council then directed staff to re-score the projects with the Commission-recommended adjustment, which is what we did. 75 00:08:56.470 --> 00:09:11.470 Quinlan Conf Room: So we rescored the projects and compiled the updated projects list, which is what is in the active transportation plans. We also compiled all the elements that have been developed in phases, one phases, 2. 76 00:09:11.470 --> 00:09:23.109 Quinlan Conf Room: and reviewed by both the Planning Commission, City Council, and BPC, and what's in the document really reflects the direction that the City Council has provided over the course of the project. 77 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:37.309 Quinlan Conf Room: So, once we had that, we then released the document for a 30-day public review period. And many of the comments that we received were pretty similar in tone from what we heard in phases 1 and 2. 78 00:09:37.310 --> 00:09:46.959 Quinlan Conf Room: There were comments about requests to close specific sidewalk gap closures. There were things that were just outside of the scope of the ETP, like… 79 00:09:47.040 --> 00:09:50.090 Quinlan Conf Room: acquiring railroad right away. 80 00:09:50.220 --> 00:09:57.710 Quinlan Conf Room: There were also minor style comments, so changes to map symbology, or using different images in certain places. 81 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:10.959 Quinlan Conf Room: But the one, like, substantive change that we did make is we added language in Chapter 1 to emphasize the importance of e-bike and electric micromobility safety, specifically for students. 82 00:10:11.040 --> 00:10:28.589 Quinlan Conf Room: Previously, that was something that was included as a programmatic recommendation in Chapter 6, but given the community's strong interest and desire to really do something about this issue, we felt it needed to be brought forward into the top of the plan, which is what we did in adding that language. 83 00:10:30.630 --> 00:10:42.380 Quinlan Conf Room: So we went to the Planning Commission last night, and the Planning Commission passed 2 motions, the 1st of which was a motion recommending that the Atp add 84 00:10:42.890 --> 00:10:55.060 Quinlan Conf Room: or make a… modify the ATP so that there is language in there that addresses how certain projects might potentially impact evacuation routes, particularly in 85 00:10:55.080 --> 00:11:02.619 Quinlan Conf Room: high fire hazard zones. And that's something that, after discussing internally, that we're definitely gonna 86 00:11:02.620 --> 00:11:18.250 Quinlan Conf Room: begin developing and bring to council when this plan is then considered for adoption in September. So after that initial motion, they also then passed the motion, adopting the resolution to recommend that the city council adopt the ATP. 87 00:11:18.390 --> 00:11:28.049 Quinlan Conf Room: So those were the actions that passed at the Planning Commission meeting. There were also other motions that weren't passed related to the removal of specific projects. 88 00:11:28.160 --> 00:11:31.119 Quinlan Conf Room: But these are the two motions that passed. 89 00:11:32.770 --> 00:11:40.570 Quinlan Conf Room: So, the next step is, after review from this body, we will be going to the City Council for adoption consideration in September. 90 00:11:43.500 --> 00:11:44.270 Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you. 91 00:11:44.760 --> 00:11:57.940 Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you, Matt, and we're looking for a recommendation from the Commission that the Council adopted. Yes, yes, I think tonight is kind of the final opportunity to provide kind of guidance. 92 00:11:58.380 --> 00:12:04.440 Quinlan Conf Room: I think the feedback from the planning commission last night was super helpful. Thank you. This year. 93 00:12:05.970 --> 00:12:07.510 Quinlan Conf Room: I'll come from last night. 94 00:12:08.030 --> 00:12:13.350 Quinlan Conf Room: That's the 1st day clarifying questions and comments from the Commission. 95 00:12:13.580 --> 00:12:16.280 Quinlan Conf Room: Everybody has a… Questions? 96 00:12:18.970 --> 00:12:20.060 Quinlan Conf Room: Nope. 97 00:12:20.890 --> 00:12:29.219 Quinlan Conf Room: On the document. On the presentation, yeah. On the document. Yeah, yeah. So on the document, I went through that. That's the 82-page document. 98 00:12:29.820 --> 00:12:31.089 Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, yeah, actually. 99 00:12:31.340 --> 00:12:34.589 Quinlan Conf Room: 22, if you can pull up. 100 00:12:36.860 --> 00:12:39.029 Quinlan Conf Room: Did you mind keeping that on the… 101 00:12:39.420 --> 00:12:41.690 Quinlan Conf Room: Positive. Yeah. 102 00:13:19.640 --> 00:13:21.739 Quinlan Conf Room: Page 22. Yeah, 2, 2. 103 00:13:33.680 --> 00:13:36.089 Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, why is this not sharing? 104 00:13:36.210 --> 00:13:37.360 Quinlan Conf Room: See you on the go. 105 00:13:37.830 --> 00:13:40.980 Quinlan Conf Room: Pardon? Do you want me to Yeah, it's opened. 106 00:13:46.260 --> 00:13:49.350 Quinlan Conf Room: Want to stop sharing, Trish, and begin. Yeah. 107 00:13:51.230 --> 00:13:54.120 Quinlan Conf Room: You can also open it back from Prashant's computer. 108 00:13:54.620 --> 00:13:55.500 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. 109 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:12.910 Quinlan Conf Room: Maybe I can begin answering the question. Yeah. So the 110 00:14:13.550 --> 00:14:24.889 Quinlan Conf Room: I saw the bubbles, right? Like, you know, in terms of how many passengers are, you know, boarding in disembarkable transit bus stations, bus stops, right? So… 111 00:14:25.540 --> 00:14:29.729 Quinlan Conf Room: Steel Street and De Anza Boulevard, as well as, you know, Sterling 112 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:45.089 Quinlan Conf Room: more than 200 people per day seems like a stretch, because I pass by those junctions all the time. Yeah. And I barely see anyone, right? So I'm kind of wondering, you know, what's the basis for that, you know? 113 00:14:45.700 --> 00:15:02.730 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, so this data comes directly from VTA's open data portal, where they collect boardings and alightings, so they have a little sensor that detects when a passenger is on board and when one comes off. So, this is data that comes directly from VTA. We didn't do it. 114 00:15:03.390 --> 00:15:05.170 Quinlan Conf Room: Give us a while. Okay. 115 00:15:08.890 --> 00:15:15.600 Quinlan Conf Room: So, on page 38, you know, the preempt is that, fighting, like, you know, the stress level 4, right? 116 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:31.250 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, and you may be referencing the initial draft document. We've since made some changes. The pagination's a little off. Oh, is that it? Yeah, so those pages are still in here. I looked at the one that was in the agenda. I downloaded the document. 117 00:15:31.280 --> 00:15:33.880 Quinlan Conf Room: So that's part of the entire thing. Okay. 118 00:15:34.210 --> 00:15:42.949 Quinlan Conf Room: Page 36. Yeah, okay, that's a bicycle level of service. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 119 00:15:43.690 --> 00:15:52.620 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, yeah, so, so, so one thing that I find here, again, so how was this? 120 00:15:52.800 --> 00:15:56.679 Quinlan Conf Room: data collected, the BLTS, you know. 121 00:15:56.750 --> 00:16:14.000 Quinlan Conf Room: So this, was done during our existing conditions phase. So this is calculated by looking at, the width of the roadway, the presence of certain types of infrastructure, whether or not a bikeway exists, speed limits, just what's out in the field, and then 122 00:16:14.140 --> 00:16:19.539 Quinlan Conf Room: In the appendix, there's supporting documentation that explains the methodology. 123 00:16:20.790 --> 00:16:21.660 Quinlan Conf Room: So. 124 00:16:21.800 --> 00:16:30.800 Quinlan Conf Room: I bike a lot, right? So, and in our city, and I'll tell you, you know, the most stressful places to bike is, you know. 125 00:16:31.300 --> 00:16:38.699 Quinlan Conf Room: entrance and exit to the shopping complexes. What happens is, you know, these cars, they're sticking out into the bike lane. 126 00:16:38.860 --> 00:16:39.710 Quinlan Conf Room: Right? 127 00:16:39.810 --> 00:16:47.889 Quinlan Conf Room: the front of the car, they're completely blocking it, especially, you know, near my house, the Dionzan, the McClellan Ranch. 128 00:16:47.910 --> 00:17:06.469 Quinlan Conf Room: shopping complex on both sides, right? On the De Anza side as well as the McLaren side. The cars invariably, you know, they come out and stick out and, you know, and block the bike lane. And if you're on McLaren, good luck going around it, because you are… there is a bike lane. Yeah. Right? I invariably, you know, yell and scream at those, cars. 129 00:17:06.470 --> 00:17:18.890 Quinlan Conf Room: Right? So, I don't know if there is anything that we can do about it, in terms of, you know, cars not coming and blocking the bike lane, right? And especially, you know, if you have a separated bike lane, where you are trapped, you can't even go around. 130 00:17:19.109 --> 00:17:34.069 Quinlan Conf Room: So, I find that, you know, you know, very, very challenging, because you are coming at a good speed, like, you know, 15- 20 mile speed, and you have to… and then you have to come to your grinding halt, because somebody, you know, stuck their car into the bike lane. 131 00:17:35.260 --> 00:17:44.389 Quinlan Conf Room: So, as a biker, I would avoid, you know, these… these main roads where there are shopping complexes, you know, cars are entering and exiting. 132 00:17:45.330 --> 00:17:52.680 Quinlan Conf Room: and and putting concrete barrier roads on those in those areas complicates things 100 times. 133 00:17:53.270 --> 00:17:59.819 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, and that granularity wouldn't be captured in this map, because we're looking at the entire roadway segment, so… 134 00:18:00.550 --> 00:18:09.179 Quinlan Conf Room: We just don't look at the driveway approaches. When we're developing this. So can you go to 135 00:18:09.950 --> 00:18:12.149 Quinlan Conf Room: Let's see. Page 43. 136 00:18:18.010 --> 00:18:21.200 Quinlan Conf Room: So this one you're showing, you know. 137 00:18:21.370 --> 00:18:29.069 Quinlan Conf Room: high bike potential areas, right? Like, you know, the… the solid green is the high bike potential, right? So… so… 138 00:18:29.090 --> 00:18:44.589 Quinlan Conf Room: what makes us think, you know, that there is a high biking potential in those areas, that solid green area? Yeah, so what Alta did when they developed this as part of, again, the existing, network, or no, sorry, this was the needs of sound. Needs… 139 00:18:44.610 --> 00:19:01.579 Quinlan Conf Room: analysis phase. So it's looking at cell phone data, so they have access to software that's able to determine where driving trips are occurring. So, you know, your phone will ping that it's traveling, and then a company will aggregate all that data, and then… 140 00:19:01.990 --> 00:19:05.780 Quinlan Conf Room: Alta collects it, and… Analyze it for us. 141 00:19:07.790 --> 00:19:17.910 Quinlan Conf Room: I'm just curious, because you know what makes pick is a high bike potential. This is based on real data from real. 142 00:19:18.390 --> 00:19:36.850 Quinlan Conf Room: drivers that drove those miles based on cell phone reception, I guess. Yeah, right. And again, in the appendices, and with what we prepared in Phase 1, we have supporting technical documentation that kind of explains how this data was collected and the work that went into these maps. 143 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:48.720 Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, just because there's a high density of cars there, it doesn't necessarily mean that they could all translate into bikes. I just want to be careful, right? Like, you know, I don't want to… 144 00:19:49.120 --> 00:20:05.520 Quinlan Conf Room: make that assumption. Yeah, we do describe the limitations, too, so there's gonna be scenarios where people are chaining trips, so you may be taking a short driving trip to go from your house to Target, but then, you know, as part of, like, that journey, you're then gonna be going from Target 145 00:20:05.800 --> 00:20:18.730 Quinlan Conf Room: you know, to Santa Clara or something. So it doesn't really fully account for the complete journey, it's just it's looking at that individual trip. So that's also documented. Can you go to page 56? 146 00:20:25.310 --> 00:20:35.790 Quinlan Conf Room: So, 10… Kenny walks through these improvements, like, you know, the pedestrian facility toolbox, right? So… Bye bye. 147 00:20:36.260 --> 00:20:37.140 Quinlan Conf Room: So… 148 00:20:38.210 --> 00:20:48.959 Quinlan Conf Room: So, when we were developing our network recommendations for the pedestrian network, we wanted to group our improvements in what we call typologies, Group A, B, and Group C. 149 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:55.810 Quinlan Conf Room: And the easiest way to think of these is Group A are the lowest cost measures that we could probably do. 150 00:20:55.810 --> 00:21:19.750 Quinlan Conf Room: Fairly easily in-house. Group B are more engineering changes, you can think capital projects, and Group C relate to traffic signal and control improvements. Okay. So when we move forward with potential projects, we're able to look at this intersection and say, alright, Alta's determined that an appropriate solution here would be, you know, a crossing improvement coupled with a traffic control improvement. 151 00:21:19.760 --> 00:21:32.780 Quinlan Conf Room: or a geometric change along with the traffic control improvement. So it just allows flexibility for future project delivery, and also so many intersections, it would be difficult to really hone in and say, alright, we need to get 152 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:46.720 Quinlan Conf Room: 5% design for these projects, so… Yeah, one of the things that we want to be careful here, right? I'm all for, you know, improving the walkability and, you know, bikeability within the city, and, you know, 100%, right? 153 00:21:46.980 --> 00:21:50.270 Quinlan Conf Room: But we should do it without, you know, penalizing 154 00:21:50.340 --> 00:22:03.610 Quinlan Conf Room: anything. Like, for example, I've seen people saying about, you know, cars backing up because, you know, no right turn on red, right? So we want to be smart about, you know, when we do that, right? Like, for example. 155 00:22:03.610 --> 00:22:18.859 Quinlan Conf Room: take Sterling and, you know, and McClellan, right? So there, maybe, you know, we may want to do, like, you know, yeah, during school hours and, you know, stuff like that, where, you know, there's a lot of traffic, yes, we want to enforce it, but, you know, otherwise, you know, we should… 156 00:22:18.860 --> 00:22:38.240 Quinlan Conf Room: We should kind of, you know, like, it has to be time- bound, right? Not like, you know, always. Because I've seen, like, evening times where there are a lot of cars, you know, people are getting back to home, and no right turn on red, and, you know, it's backing up traffic all the way, you know, very far beyond the… 157 00:22:38.260 --> 00:22:44.550 Quinlan Conf Room: The… where, you know, you make a… you come to a separate turn lane, right? It's backing up into the main lanes. 158 00:22:44.940 --> 00:22:53.169 Quinlan Conf Room: Right? And so, we want to be very smart about, you know, how we do these things, right? So, because we don't want to solve one problem and create another problem. 159 00:22:54.030 --> 00:22:58.340 Quinlan Conf Room: And the ATP and the programmatic recommendations has, you know. 160 00:22:58.450 --> 00:23:12.819 Quinlan Conf Room: right turn on red included in there, but on the description, it says right turn on red, or limiting right turn on red would only be allowed if it's fully understood that there's not going to be negative traffic impacts associated with that. So that point was made clear within the document. 161 00:23:13.040 --> 00:23:27.570 Quinlan Conf Room: So yeah, I'm all for making improvements. But I want us to be careful not to solve one problem and create another problem. So let's see, this is for page 56. Right? So 162 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:30.910 Quinlan Conf Room: Can you go to page 62? 163 00:23:36.630 --> 00:23:37.530 Quinlan Conf Room: So… 164 00:23:38.290 --> 00:23:47.849 Quinlan Conf Room: So the solid orange is separated bikeway right now, right? Correct. That's, you know, the concrete barriers, right? And what are the dotted 165 00:23:47.850 --> 00:24:07.789 Quinlan Conf Room: orange line meets proposed, and the solid isn't necessarily concrete. So we also have the delineators or the flexible bollards in front of Lawson, or parking separated, which is the case on Mary physically separated bikeways. Okay, okay, yeah. So yeah, so I'm all for, you know. 166 00:24:07.980 --> 00:24:17.729 Quinlan Conf Room: things that are, you know, so long as there are no barriers. I'm okay with that, because the the moment you put barriers and so many problems associated. 167 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:30.390 Quinlan Conf Room: And I live and breathe that, and I… so, I just don't want to, you know, go down that path anymore. So, you know, bullets are fine, right? Because, you know, people can weave in and out. 168 00:24:30.650 --> 00:24:45.669 Quinlan Conf Room: Right? When there are bikers, right? Multiple bikers, then the bike lane itself is narrow, right? And you don't want… if one biker doesn't want to be trapped behind another biker, right now, you know, with a separated bike lane, they are going in the car. 169 00:24:46.370 --> 00:24:57.259 Quinlan Conf Room: And I see that all the time, right? And the way to avoid that is, you know, if you give them capability to get in and out, go around, so with wallets and stuff like that, then, you know, it's… 170 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:00.439 Quinlan Conf Room: You know, we will see if that's a good compromise. 171 00:25:01.300 --> 00:25:01.980 Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you. 172 00:25:01.980 --> 00:25:24.590 Quinlan Conf Room: And when describing that project type on page 61, separate bikeway, it does state that an on-street bike lane that is separated from motor vehicle traffic by a vertical barrier such as bollards, phrase meetings, planters, or parked cars. Yeah, it's not limiting the design of the project. Okay, so I just want to make sure that we're not committing to, you know, the concrete path. 173 00:25:25.120 --> 00:25:25.830 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. 174 00:25:26.770 --> 00:25:31.980 Quinlan Conf Room: That's, in a minute. Yeah. 175 00:25:34.390 --> 00:25:42.330 Quinlan Conf Room: There's 1 high stress area that I spoke to some community members. I brought it up in one of the meetings before. So if you can bring up, you know the math. 176 00:25:42.560 --> 00:25:43.740 Quinlan Conf Room: Google Maps. 177 00:25:44.320 --> 00:25:51.180 Quinlan Conf Room: and… go to Charlieman Park area. This is under Bollinger. 178 00:25:51.520 --> 00:25:53.950 Quinlan Conf Room: Right? And Kim Street Crossing. 179 00:26:05.790 --> 00:26:06.500 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. 180 00:26:09.730 --> 00:26:10.540 Quinlan Conf Room: No. 181 00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:17.799 Quinlan Conf Room: Bollinger and? Bollinger and Kim Street Crossing. 182 00:26:18.170 --> 00:26:20.040 Quinlan Conf Room: like near the Johnnywood Park. 183 00:26:22.030 --> 00:26:28.229 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, yeah. So here, yes, so so that what I thought is, you know. 184 00:26:29.420 --> 00:26:30.120 Quinlan Conf Room: So. 185 00:26:30.470 --> 00:26:38.620 Quinlan Conf Room: If… can you zoom out, please? Out? Because I want to see if this is the driving part, right? So people come from… 186 00:26:38.910 --> 00:26:43.159 Quinlan Conf Room: Let's see, yeah, so this is Jalan Pak, right? So people come here, Rock. 187 00:26:43.190 --> 00:26:51.990 Quinlan Conf Room: living here. They all go to Jalima Park, and they walk this way right when they come here. They're trying to cross the street right? 188 00:26:51.990 --> 00:27:06.210 Quinlan Conf Room: And a lot of cars that come here, they're coming full speed, you know, to make a right turn, or they go straight. They don't know that car is going to go straight, or, you know, make a right turn. It's a huge struggle, and, you know, and they're near… 189 00:27:06.570 --> 00:27:17.780 Quinlan Conf Room: accidents a few times, and you know, I spoke to some of those residents where they got nearly hit, because they thought, you know, this car coming at speed is going to make a turn, but it was going straight. 190 00:27:18.010 --> 00:27:29.299 Quinlan Conf Room: And so this is a high stress junction that, you know, I heard from quite a few residents. So we need to do something about this before we see, you know, something bad. 191 00:27:30.380 --> 00:27:49.459 Quinlan Conf Room: What's the segment? The bowling area is… the project is in somewhere in the list. No, that is the other segment, the other side. Right. Because this is a dead end, right? So this is a dead end at the sand. But this junction is a problem. It's not captured at the moment. But a lot are elderly people that are going there for walking and coming back. 192 00:27:49.470 --> 00:27:53.269 Quinlan Conf Room: And at least I spoke to two people that said, no, they can't get me in. 193 00:27:55.210 --> 00:28:03.210 Quinlan Conf Room: And since I live in this area, so they know that I'm on a bike commission, they specifically spoke to me, you know, how dangerous it is. 194 00:28:08.590 --> 00:28:15.250 Quinlan Conf Room: And there is a project recommendation for that specific area, including kind of like a potentially unique 195 00:28:15.540 --> 00:28:23.220 Quinlan Conf Room: Project to add an on-street bike path. Again, this is… everything's just conceptual at this point, but this was… 196 00:28:23.320 --> 00:28:36.209 Quinlan Conf Room: rank project one-on-one, and again, the project list is just guidance for future selection for the CIP, but there are improvements at that specific location. Yeah, so that was more for, you know, like, some kind of a, like, you know. 197 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:51.479 Quinlan Conf Room: crosswalk with, you know, the flashing lights or something, you know, we need to do to help the pedestrians that are trying to cross the bullying jet there. it looks like it's in there, bullying jet came down. It's in the plan. It's in the plan. Awesome. Yeah, I 198 00:28:51.690 --> 00:28:56.519 Quinlan Conf Room: Great good feedback. Thank you. Any other clarifying questions from the Commission. 199 00:29:01.770 --> 00:29:05.810 Quinlan Conf Room: I have a question regarding something on 200 00:29:06.100 --> 00:29:12.210 Quinlan Conf Room: shows up 1st on page, and then 75. 201 00:29:13.320 --> 00:29:15.760 Quinlan Conf Room: And it's probably shaded within the document, but… 202 00:29:16.500 --> 00:29:29.949 Quinlan Conf Room: regards the rankings that we come up with from the prioritization. I hadn't seen this before, and this seems to be new. Rankings are not intended to reflect an order in which to complete projects. 203 00:29:30.060 --> 00:29:35.069 Quinlan Conf Room: But rather, a guide for future project selection based on a variety of factors. 204 00:29:35.620 --> 00:29:42.659 Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, when I read that it's like this. There's a phenomenal amount of energy that's gone into the scoring, and 205 00:29:42.840 --> 00:29:48.869 Quinlan Conf Room: really trying to and looking at where projects lie within that prioritization. And then I read this. 206 00:29:49.080 --> 00:29:52.760 Quinlan Conf Room: And it seemed absolutely, totally counterintuitive, and 207 00:29:52.900 --> 00:29:59.400 Quinlan Conf Room: And and you look at other bike plans, including including channels open. Once you get chair alone, chair, 2, chair, 3. 208 00:29:59.520 --> 00:30:16.389 Quinlan Conf Room: and you look at any other bike plant thing. It's all about prioritization based on the scoring and those projects, you know. Maybe it's not. Everything done is done exactly that way. But it's like, Okay, you start looking at the top 10 or top 20, and then you work on those. 209 00:30:16.510 --> 00:30:24.559 Quinlan Conf Room: and there may be some other in the lower areas that get done. But it's those are accomplished first.st So it's this seemed like 210 00:30:25.430 --> 00:30:26.400 Quinlan Conf Room: you know. 211 00:30:26.900 --> 00:30:36.949 Quinlan Conf Room: it. It threw me for a loop, because I thought, well, this absolutely doesn't make any sense to me. This is not what we've been talking about. This is not what everybody's focused on. Everybody's kind of 212 00:30:37.150 --> 00:30:54.729 Quinlan Conf Room: I want to say wrestling over the numbers and how to score these things, and now all of a sudden we put something like this in here, and it's like, well, this doesn't make any sense. Yeah, and this is something that was added to the plan just to… I mean, so the 2016 plan with the 213 00:30:55.520 --> 00:31:11.219 Quinlan Conf Room: Council and CIP, they're not obligated to follow the list as is. They have the discretion to select projects based on what the community's priority is at the time, or, you know, what kind of funding is available. So this is more of just a reminder to the community saying, hey. 214 00:31:11.220 --> 00:31:21.870 Quinlan Conf Room: even though you have a project that is, you know, 172, that doesn't mean it's not going to be built. Like, you can go and advocate for it, just based on the criteria that we establish. 215 00:31:21.870 --> 00:31:38.560 Quinlan Conf Room: which we thought was very balanced and fair. It identified projects that are going to have wide positive impacts also be broadly supported by the community. But ultimately, Council is going to have the decision making authority to choose which of these they want to pursue. 216 00:31:39.170 --> 00:31:48.689 Quinlan Conf Room: which is, there's there's no difference between how projects will be selected from this plan and how they've been selected from plans in the past. This is just kind of more explicitly 217 00:31:48.730 --> 00:31:54.249 Quinlan Conf Room: saying what we've been doing all along. I think we even talked about that many times that we 218 00:31:54.250 --> 00:32:11.769 Quinlan Conf Room: want to keep the liberty to collect projects with different lengths together if they are in one particular location. So we might have a grand opportunity for a project at 20, just because… And pull in a project from the back of the list. I think that's what this is about. Exactly. It's my read on it. Yeah, that's correct. 219 00:32:12.530 --> 00:32:18.319 Quinlan Conf Room: But that… I mean, if you look at the old plan, and you look at… I think it's… there's some tables in there. 220 00:32:18.490 --> 00:32:29.169 Quinlan Conf Room: there's 2, 3 tiers, but like tier one, you know, 11 out of the 13 projects either have been built or in progress, and then tier 2. It's only like 221 00:32:30.050 --> 00:32:38.250 Quinlan Conf Room: well, I don't know, it was maybe 50%, I mean, 50% have been done, and then Tier 3, not that many, so there's some… 222 00:32:38.290 --> 00:32:50.629 Quinlan Conf Room: logic to have, you know, ranking all these projects, and the likelihood that your project, for instance, we have Homestead Road, which is 187 out of 202, that's… 223 00:32:50.690 --> 00:33:09.079 Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, I would look at that, any person after seeing the score, you would look at it and say, well, long likelihood, we're not going to see much there. And even though that, in my opinion, is an incredibly important quarter. And so it's just hard for me to believe it. I mean, it's just, I can't sit here and think, oh, this is… 224 00:33:09.430 --> 00:33:27.369 Quinlan Conf Room: This is going to happen. But I think that's exactly what this message is about here, right? This would allow actually to say, well, there is a project that's listed as 200, but because it is not an exactly consecutive list, the Council can pick 205 if they feel so. 225 00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:33.230 Quinlan Conf Room: I think that would enable them, actually, to I'm reading that, yes, but… 226 00:33:33.670 --> 00:33:49.430 Quinlan Conf Room: I'm not believing it. I'll tell you that I'm just not believing it. Well, that's how it works. That's how it has worked, and that's how it will work. So, you know, the intent is that, generally, we're going to go down the list from highest priority to lowest priority. 227 00:33:49.440 --> 00:34:06.920 Quinlan Conf Room: But there's the discretion to jump around as opportunities present themselves, or as the need arises, to do projects out of order. And this just gives us the flexibility to do that, and not imply that we're not going to do project number 2, because project 1 hasn't been done. 228 00:34:08.650 --> 00:34:18.969 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, great. But can you zoom in on? You know the shared use path on Charlieman Park as well as the Creekside Park. 229 00:34:19.710 --> 00:34:26.460 Quinlan Conf Room: The Google map? The Google map? Or the… in the document? Zoom it. 230 00:34:30.659 --> 00:34:39.369 Quinlan Conf Room: Are we in the pedestrian or the bike? Yeah, in in this map only right? So I really want to understand. 231 00:34:40.030 --> 00:34:43.079 Quinlan Conf Room: On this page 77 map, right? 232 00:34:45.219 --> 00:34:46.350 Quinlan Conf Room: Zoom in. 233 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:53.679 Quinlan Conf Room: Closer to… Yeah, see the Jalan Park? You see that solid leaf, right? 234 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:57.380 Quinlan Conf Room: I really want to understand, you know, what that means, like, you know. 235 00:34:57.520 --> 00:35:03.130 Quinlan Conf Room: this one, and likewise this one. I really want to understand what that means. 236 00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:09.639 Quinlan Conf Room: They're inside the park. Like, they're not, like, you know, they're shared bike paths, you know. 237 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:15.090 Quinlan Conf Room: Right, so… This is inside the park, so… 238 00:35:17.580 --> 00:35:24.269 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, that's just to show that bikes are allowed. They technically don't fit within… 239 00:35:24.560 --> 00:35:44.139 Quinlan Conf Room: I don't believe David, but in order to categorize them and kind of demonstrate. Yeah, it's it's a pathway that that bikes are legally allowed. Allowed. They use unless explicitly prohibited. Yeah. So that likes a big danger, because a lot of people walk on those 240 00:35:44.150 --> 00:36:00.119 Quinlan Conf Room: Right? They're not wide enough, you know, to accommodate bikers, as well as, you know, walkers. And I explicitly heard that complaint from people that are walking on the jogging path. And that's something that, you know, could be modified through all of this. Yeah, but this… 241 00:36:00.120 --> 00:36:10.549 Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, it is now. Yeah, it is. But we need to do something, because, you know, there are really, really no elderly people walking there, and you know. 242 00:36:10.580 --> 00:36:23.870 Quinlan Conf Room: And imagine, you know, a collision involving a deadly person and a biker, right? That's pretty dangerous. And the Memorial Park recommendation is just what's within the Memorial Park Master Plan, which would make 243 00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:30.310 Quinlan Conf Room: New Pass wide enough to those standards you're talking about? Yes, I got a complaint from Memorial Park as well. 244 00:36:30.740 --> 00:36:33.190 Quinlan Conf Room: So that's the recommendation of the plan. Okay. 245 00:36:33.600 --> 00:36:37.639 Quinlan Conf Room: This queen is out of school, so this is not a new project, right? No. 246 00:36:37.890 --> 00:36:48.789 Quinlan Conf Room: the jollyman loop. Yeah, that's that's that's cool. But I'm just saying to to serve the purpose. 247 00:36:48.980 --> 00:36:53.560 Quinlan Conf Room: Right? Because by allowing this, we created a dangerous situation. 248 00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:58.240 Quinlan Conf Room: Yep. 249 00:37:00.140 --> 00:37:07.710 Quinlan Conf Room: Do we have any qualitative or quantitative feedback regarding 250 00:37:07.940 --> 00:37:14.610 Quinlan Conf Room: From the community during the feedback gathering process about neighborhood by crowds. 251 00:37:15.540 --> 00:37:18.010 Quinlan Conf Room: neighborhood bike ground specifically. 252 00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:24.559 Quinlan Conf Room: Their support of them, specifically for access to schools, really, is where they were brought up the most. 253 00:37:24.980 --> 00:37:37.719 Quinlan Conf Room: How was the feedback? Like, do you have, like, anecdotes or any other data points saying, like, I don't know, 50% would buy it? Yes, we like that. We didn't ask questions specifically about that, but when we… 254 00:37:38.580 --> 00:37:51.679 Quinlan Conf Room: Because we originally had that fairness criteria, right, which showed how many projects received likes. The shared use pa… or, sorry, neighborhood routes themselves received the most likes, along with the shared use pass. 255 00:37:52.380 --> 00:38:03.349 Quinlan Conf Room: But we say we didn't. So that's right. Pardon? Said we didn't use the last. No, exactly so before we made that change. When you look at the public input map. 256 00:38:04.040 --> 00:38:05.279 Quinlan Conf Room: The community loves them. 257 00:38:08.470 --> 00:38:10.380 Quinlan Conf Room: So… Thanks. 258 00:38:10.620 --> 00:38:13.999 Quinlan Conf Room: on the e-bike safety, right? So you have, 259 00:38:15.540 --> 00:38:21.020 Quinlan Conf Room: You have information saying that, okay, how are we going to improve the fit? Like, there is how, except for education. 260 00:38:21.660 --> 00:38:28.169 Quinlan Conf Room: I didn't see anything concrete in saying that how we are going to improve the e-bike safety. 261 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:33.980 Quinlan Conf Room: The other thing is like you have potential for you by your different. 262 00:38:34.700 --> 00:38:39.729 Quinlan Conf Room: Trip potential, right? So you have, you have a different choice. 263 00:38:40.060 --> 00:38:49.919 Quinlan Conf Room: But then, you are not necessarily breaking out as to how much percentage of the people are actually using the e-bikes now, and what's the… 264 00:38:50.240 --> 00:39:00.690 Quinlan Conf Room: growth potential there as well, right? Because right now, it's all lumped up under… everything is considered as one single line item. So, do you have plans to… 265 00:39:00.860 --> 00:39:11.609 Quinlan Conf Room: So that table is the Safe Routes to School travel tally information that we collect. So that's the student mode share data. As for 266 00:39:11.650 --> 00:39:28.989 Quinlan Conf Room: specificity about addressing e-bike education. That's something that would come through, like, a city work program item, so having that within this plan then allows us to go and make the recommendation that we need some sort of formal project that has council support and budget 267 00:39:28.990 --> 00:39:36.210 Quinlan Conf Room: Attached to it to then go out and perform that education in whatever form would be the most appropriate. 268 00:39:36.980 --> 00:39:41.520 Quinlan Conf Room: So, other than education, we're not building anything as part of e-bike safety. 269 00:39:44.360 --> 00:40:00.810 Quinlan Conf Room: I guess I don't understand the question. There is an agenda item that we're planning for the next meeting, which is on e- bikes, specifically, some of the challenges we talked about during the meetings there, but I think it's unrelated, kind of, to the, to the plan. It's really more, what are we, as a city, how are we thinking about the 270 00:40:00.810 --> 00:40:05.770 Quinlan Conf Room: illegal e-bike cycles. Yeah, exactly, because people are… you know. 271 00:40:06.070 --> 00:40:22.829 Quinlan Conf Room: biking on sidewalks… Yes. …at a much higher speed, I'm thinking, which is going to affect the pedestrian safety. Yeah, in a future program, we'll consider things like enforcement, or whether that… That is exactly what we're going to talk about in the, kind of, meeting, but it's unrelated to the bike plan, because it could be anywhere. 272 00:40:22.950 --> 00:40:26.319 Quinlan Conf Room: You guys could be anywhere in the city where violations are happening. 273 00:40:26.860 --> 00:40:33.350 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I have something on technology corridors, but then we'll talk about it once we have a Q&A session over. 274 00:40:33.790 --> 00:40:41.850 Quinlan Conf Room: Wonderful. Any more clarifying questions? Otherwise, I'll open up for public comments. I have one additional question. 275 00:40:42.260 --> 00:40:49.800 Quinlan Conf Room: Just to, when we look at the, looking now at the bike infrastructure. 276 00:40:49.980 --> 00:41:05.939 Quinlan Conf Room: when sometimes a quarter will have a separated bike lane. Sometimes it will be like a bike lane with a buffer, and then I look at the I go onto the city website. I look at the traffic counts for those corridors, and they're all really hot. It's like 277 00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:09.269 Quinlan Conf Room: you know, I think 6,000 a day is 278 00:41:09.520 --> 00:41:18.999 Quinlan Conf Room: my recollection. 6,000 a day is is it recommended for you to go to a separated bike lane. I think that comes from the Federal Government. 279 00:41:19.520 --> 00:41:22.970 Quinlan Conf Room: I think the urban bikeway design job. 280 00:41:23.010 --> 00:41:42.340 Quinlan Conf Room: So like, I'm trying to. And some of these are 30,000 20,000. Most, in fact, most of them are up in that range. So of the major corridors where you would put these. And so what like, how? How is that determined whether or not to go to separated bike lane versus a regular bike lane versus 281 00:41:42.390 --> 00:41:45.099 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah. Buffered bike way. So… 282 00:41:45.360 --> 00:42:02.799 Quinlan Conf Room: Alta looked at what you were talking about, referenced all the FHWA guidance and the Caltrans Design Information Bulletin to kind of establish the foundation of, alright, what's recommended at the state and federal level. And then, based on what we heard from the community, kind of… 283 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:12.150 Quinlan Conf Room: refine those recommendations, looked at the corridors, determined what was feasible, where there's, like, Blaney, for instance, 284 00:42:12.530 --> 00:42:21.240 Quinlan Conf Room: Previously, it was a separated bike lane in the 2016 plan, but it's been refined to a buffered bike lane due to the fact that there's just so many 285 00:42:21.300 --> 00:42:33.349 Quinlan Conf Room: driveways, and from an engineering perspective and cost, the likelihood of a separated bike lane across the entire segment of Blaney from Homestead to Bollinger would be incredibly expensive, so let's 286 00:42:33.540 --> 00:42:41.379 Quinlan Conf Room: put a recommendation in the plan that is actually realistic, and something that's going to have benefit, and something that's going to have benefit, hopefully in the near term. 287 00:42:44.260 --> 00:42:45.010 Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you. 288 00:42:45.780 --> 00:42:51.740 Quinlan Conf Room: Alright. Are we, all good here on clarifying questions? Sounds like the case. 289 00:42:52.010 --> 00:43:05.910 Quinlan Conf Room: Let's now open up for public commentary on this topic. Anybody has any comments with anybody online. Okay, wonderful. Thank you. Then I'm gonna get it back to the Commission for a discussion. 290 00:43:06.130 --> 00:43:22.410 Quinlan Conf Room: on this topic, and I think that the objective and the goal for tonight is to get this document essentially ready for city council to approve. I think we have the feedback from the planning commission which is pretty much 291 00:43:22.590 --> 00:43:27.390 Quinlan Conf Room: Approved, as is, with the addition of the, 292 00:43:27.560 --> 00:43:40.590 Quinlan Conf Room: emergency route kind of considerations. So when there is impact to come to emergency situations, we should definitely make this as a checkpoint for to. 293 00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:42.130 Quinlan Conf Room: Very fine. 294 00:43:42.250 --> 00:43:49.999 Quinlan Conf Room: But do we have any other topics of discussion that we want to cover before we do a vote on the document tonight. 295 00:43:52.390 --> 00:43:53.280 Quinlan Conf Room: Yes. 296 00:43:53.540 --> 00:43:57.329 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, we can go for it. So 1st of all. 297 00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:01.399 Quinlan Conf Room: I think I don't disagree with you, Chair, when you said that 298 00:44:02.080 --> 00:44:05.310 Quinlan Conf Room: That information was interesting to watch. 299 00:44:05.490 --> 00:44:21.539 Quinlan Conf Room: I think I'm very sorry for staff who have to go through the same thing over again from one day to the other, to deliver the exact same presentation. It's a disaster in terms of governance for the city, because 300 00:44:21.770 --> 00:44:34.199 Quinlan Conf Room: there is, like, there was close to no discussion about land use. There was one commissioner who mentioned at some point the ADUs and the use of parking, and that was pretty much it. The rest of the one- hour discussion 301 00:44:34.200 --> 00:44:42.459 Quinlan Conf Room: was the exact same discussion that should have happened here or would happen here. And so the question is who does what and that's it. 302 00:44:42.650 --> 00:45:02.599 Quinlan Conf Room: again. I'm very sorry for Staff to have redundant efforts, but beyond that I think the issue is also that with the planning Commissioner, who portrays himself, as you know, guardian of the purse, and wants to reduce spending. But I don't know exactly what your compensation scheme is, but I'm pretty sure that you are compensated 303 00:45:02.630 --> 00:45:13.450 Quinlan Conf Room: to stay until 9 30 at City Hall, and I don't think that it's the best use of taxpayer money to have staff do the same thing over and again, over and over again, twice. 304 00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:32.389 Quinlan Conf Room: just because, you know, one Commissioner and the Planning Commission are trying to take over the responsibilities of the plan. Because that's exactly the same thing that was presented yesterday that is presented today. So that's definitely on the bike. 305 00:45:33.100 --> 00:45:36.470 Quinlan Conf Room: Over the process, maybe, but still about the bike time. 306 00:45:36.700 --> 00:45:38.720 Quinlan Conf Room: Couple of things. 307 00:45:39.200 --> 00:45:44.529 Quinlan Conf Room: I think the… One of the issues that I had with the back plan was that 308 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:52.729 Quinlan Conf Room: We were told that the implementation of the Vision Zero plan would be actually in the ATP. 309 00:45:53.040 --> 00:45:54.040 Quinlan Conf Room: And… 310 00:45:54.840 --> 00:46:07.250 Quinlan Conf Room: It's it's a little bit disappointing from that standpoint. I mean, if you look at Homestead, she's on the high injury network just has one intersection improvement for bikes. 311 00:46:07.410 --> 00:46:09.170 Quinlan Conf Room: And… 312 00:46:09.350 --> 00:46:26.619 Quinlan Conf Room: that's the only one outside of Stevens Creek Boulevard, and there's just two improvements for pedestrians. So, if we look at if the active transportation plan is the implementation, like, what is going to help us make the city safer for pedestrians and cyclists. 313 00:46:26.730 --> 00:46:41.969 Quinlan Conf Room: at least as far as Homestead is concerned, it's not there. So that is disappointing. Bollinger also has literally 0 intersection improvements. De Anza Boulevard has one, and that's because it's a joint one with with Stevens Green Boulevard here. 314 00:46:42.090 --> 00:46:46.139 Quinlan Conf Room: And same thing, Stelling has just two, two intersection improvements. 315 00:46:46.300 --> 00:46:52.530 Quinlan Conf Room: I will commend the fact that the the pedestrian plan is actually very solid. 316 00:46:52.660 --> 00:46:53.440 Quinlan Conf Room: of. 317 00:46:53.590 --> 00:47:05.560 Quinlan Conf Room: I really like it. I think there's a lot of things that make the city better. And so I think the the pedestrian plan is really good. It's just disappointing from a 318 00:47:06.270 --> 00:47:23.260 Quinlan Conf Room: from a intersection standpoint and a high engineering network standpoint that we have this discrepancy between what we say is dangerous and what we're actually willing to make better to remove that aspect of our students. 319 00:47:24.590 --> 00:47:40.880 Quinlan Conf Room: I have one more, one more thing. But sure, go for it. Okay? So I counted in the project 68 neighborhood back back routes. And hence my question regarding their their support in the community. 320 00:47:41.100 --> 00:47:45.249 Quinlan Conf Room: I personally haven't… 321 00:47:45.310 --> 00:48:04.749 Quinlan Conf Room: had any contact with anyone from the community asking for these bike routes. I've never heard any enthusiastic feedback. Maybe a like on the internet does not equate, at least does not translate for me for, you know, popular support. I have a problem with it because 322 00:48:05.290 --> 00:48:07.080 Quinlan Conf Room: I don't think this solved any problem. 323 00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:09.610 Quinlan Conf Room: I don't think they improve safety. 324 00:48:10.160 --> 00:48:15.150 Quinlan Conf Room: Which one is that the neighborhood 5 routes? 325 00:48:15.310 --> 00:48:18.769 Quinlan Conf Room: So it's essentially signs and sharps. Oops. 326 00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:36.989 Quinlan Conf Room: And the shadows confuse the car drivers and the cyclists alike, because the cyclists don't know… think that they are allowed to drive in the middle of the street, and the cars don't know where the cyclists should be. And by the way, I think on some of the… 327 00:48:37.020 --> 00:48:43.709 Quinlan Conf Room: bodies, governing bodies of transportation shadows are actually not actively discouraged as in 328 00:48:44.160 --> 00:48:49.030 Quinlan Conf Room: as a measure. So because of the confusion that I that I mentioned. 329 00:48:49.290 --> 00:48:51.840 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, in terms of signs, like… 330 00:48:52.020 --> 00:49:07.109 Quinlan Conf Room: telling people to go from A to B. I think it's more than widespread that people now use their phones instead of looking at the signs. This might have been the case in the nineties, where people would be like, Oh, I'm going to watch the signs to go to a park. But that's not the case anymore. 331 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:11.500 Quinlan Conf Room: Another thing that worries me is the cost. 332 00:49:11.750 --> 00:49:16.490 Quinlan Conf Room: Because… And I'm gonna take the one cost as a 333 00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:32.520 Quinlan Conf Room: wide sense, not just the cost of, you know, putting a sign and painting shadows, but also for all that happens, we need people who do project management, who, you know, we need to have the authorization, we need to go 334 00:49:32.600 --> 00:49:49.149 Quinlan Conf Room: It's staff time, and instead of focusing on other things, I think these projects, again, do not solve any problem, and they ask for time, money, and attention. And so I have a real problem with that. 335 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:59.670 Quinlan Conf Room: Mayor Moore already indicated that she didn't like them and said she didn't want to see that it was not valuable. And so, in my opinion. 336 00:50:00.210 --> 00:50:10.320 Quinlan Conf Room: because these things cost money, attention, and you know, time for stuff. I'd rather have the city to less. 337 00:50:11.060 --> 00:50:15.970 Quinlan Conf Room: but better, less. In that case, to me, is more And… 338 00:50:16.830 --> 00:50:19.819 Quinlan Conf Room: I think we should do less projects, but better one. 339 00:50:20.190 --> 00:50:22.239 Quinlan Conf Room: And I don't see… 340 00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:31.869 Quinlan Conf Room: the bike routes as being an efficient way, you know, to make a connectivity improvement safety improvement. There is very, very little. If there are 341 00:50:32.100 --> 00:50:38.979 Quinlan Conf Room: thing that are improved like improved in terms of of projects. They are marked already, and and backwards are not one of them. 342 00:50:39.290 --> 00:50:44.939 Quinlan Conf Room: And so again, if We're saying, let's not do bike routes. 343 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:54.160 Quinlan Conf Room: it reduces pretty considerably the number of projects, because I said I count 68, but in my opinion, it would be better to do less. 344 00:50:54.470 --> 00:51:08.450 Quinlan Conf Room: And it's not because it's a bike thing, you know, we pat ourselves in the back, and we decide, like, hey, everybody's happy because we did something, but something is not always the right thing. And I'd rather see the city make some progress on all the other projects. 345 00:51:08.630 --> 00:51:13.679 Quinlan Conf Room: that are discussed in that plan as opposed to the the the bike bullet points. 346 00:51:16.370 --> 00:51:26.020 Quinlan Conf Room: One quick point of clarification. So there's 68 listed segments for the neighborhood rounds, but those would be delivered. Yeah. 347 00:51:26.350 --> 00:51:28.930 Quinlan Conf Room: So I don't know if there's some… 348 00:51:29.160 --> 00:51:32.050 Quinlan Conf Room: moment, if I can make a motion, but, 349 00:51:34.610 --> 00:51:47.800 Quinlan Conf Room: I'm not sure if this requires a change, because I think part of what this is about is about a list of things and projects, so that doesn't mean, again, it doesn't mean you have to execute them one by one, in that order. 350 00:51:48.510 --> 00:51:51.340 Quinlan Conf Room: everybody, City Council, staff. 351 00:51:51.440 --> 00:52:04.140 Quinlan Conf Room: we'll have the liberty to essentially pick from this list. It doesn't have to be executed one by one. So I'm not sure if it really warrants a change as much as a reaffirmation of the fact that 352 00:52:04.140 --> 00:52:14.240 Quinlan Conf Room: City Council and everybody else can pick whatever they want there. And it's expressively stated there. And when we presented the network recommendations to the City Council. 353 00:52:14.310 --> 00:52:21.280 Quinlan Conf Room: in November of last year. They didn't have any comments about the individual projects or the number of them. Yep. 354 00:52:25.830 --> 00:52:31.100 Quinlan Conf Room: any other commentary questions, discussions. Yes, I have. 355 00:52:31.950 --> 00:52:35.850 Quinlan Conf Room: comments about the technology corridor. 356 00:52:36.430 --> 00:52:46.079 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, can you bring up the, two pages? Same, same number? Same picture, is it? 59? 59? 357 00:52:46.600 --> 00:52:48.819 Quinlan Conf Room: There's also one that's 7 people. 358 00:52:49.750 --> 00:52:50.750 Quinlan Conf Room: Pretty good. 359 00:52:51.020 --> 00:52:52.080 Quinlan Conf Room: Here I am. 360 00:52:52.780 --> 00:52:53.580 Quinlan Conf Room: Here. 361 00:52:53.970 --> 00:53:02.989 Quinlan Conf Room: So if you look at this one, the technology corridor that you picked up like, I think, 5 corridors to plan for 362 00:53:03.180 --> 00:53:04.130 Quinlan Conf Room: But… 363 00:53:04.670 --> 00:53:11.000 Quinlan Conf Room: there is a potential for you to extend this one, for example, in a few areas. Like, one is, like, you know, from selling 364 00:53:11.160 --> 00:53:20.950 Quinlan Conf Room: All the way to Bianza, right? There is a gap there, it's possible to extend that through Homestead all the way to the Bianza, that's one possibility. 365 00:53:21.270 --> 00:53:35.849 Quinlan Conf Room: And the second one is, like, you can also, in McClellan, I think you were trying to focus on the school areas and the major corridors, but the McClellan is not there, so that's another area where it's possible to add that technology. 366 00:53:36.220 --> 00:53:47.590 Quinlan Conf Room: And then, there's no reason to stop, like, for example, the plan is to go all the way up to. I think it's Barcelona. 367 00:53:47.760 --> 00:54:06.089 Quinlan Conf Room: to cover the Cupertino High School, but it's good to really go all the way to the end, to Bollinger Road, because you have Miller on the other side, which is also a busy issue on the Bollinger Road, so it's good to get that all the way to the Bollinger, that sort of thing. 368 00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:22.730 Quinlan Conf Room: And also, on Stevens Street Boulevard, it's okay to extend all the way up to the Copernicus boundary, like up to Lawrence Expressway, but not to Lawrence, but at least to 280 intersection, which is also a busy section where you could extend that. 369 00:54:23.290 --> 00:54:24.170 Quinlan Conf Room: And. 370 00:54:24.610 --> 00:54:34.770 Quinlan Conf Room: I would also consider the sixth road as a Bollinger Bowl, because it was also one of the safety issues that was considered, and it's easier for us to accommodate our technology 371 00:54:34.910 --> 00:54:40.299 Quinlan Conf Room: that as a technology, but as opposed to making other infrastructure improvements, it was much more harder. 372 00:54:40.690 --> 00:54:41.570 Quinlan Conf Room: Good one. 373 00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:50.320 Quinlan Conf Room: So that's my suggestion regarding… and all this technology corridors, I think you will put that as a… these are all staff recommendations. 374 00:54:50.450 --> 00:55:07.140 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, if I'm not mistaken, right? So, these technology quarters were created based off of council direction to prioritize technology in the ATP? Correct. And when we started looking at, alright, how do we identify what these quarters should be? We first looked at the typology C intersections and the signalized intersections. 375 00:55:07.140 --> 00:55:18.819 Quinlan Conf Room: So those are the traffic signal and control improvements, and then we looked at their relationship to the high injury network, and then where within those corridors there's high rates of collisions where the primary collision factor could be associated 376 00:55:18.820 --> 00:55:23.950 Quinlan Conf Room: with… Different factors at an intersection, like red light brownies, or, 377 00:55:24.060 --> 00:55:39.969 Quinlan Conf Room: you know, improper turning at a red stuff like that. And then some of these corridors and intersections. The city just doesn't control like Bollinger. The city of San Jose actually maintains and manages those intersections. So we wouldn't have the ability to actually 378 00:55:40.330 --> 00:55:58.329 Quinlan Conf Room: you know, implement and control those technologies. So, these corridors were really just identified based off their collision history, whether or not the city has the authority to actually manage the technology, and then what the plans, pedestrian recommendations are, along those. 379 00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:06.649 Quinlan Conf Room: Is that the same issue on the whole site as well? Like, we're doing control, or is it the city of Sunnyvale? That was the Sunnyvale. 380 00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:07.540 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. 381 00:56:08.160 --> 00:56:13.590 Quinlan Conf Room: That makes sense, yeah. And how about students that are extending all the way? 382 00:56:13.850 --> 00:56:25.040 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, when we looked at the collision data and the recommendations for the typology C intersections, they ended at Miller, and there really aren't as many 383 00:56:25.390 --> 00:56:34.830 Quinlan Conf Room: collisions that have those collision factors once you get east of Miller. They're really kind of consolidated between De Anza and Miller, and Stelling and De Anza. 384 00:56:37.420 --> 00:56:39.340 Quinlan Conf Room: Makes sense. Makes sense. 385 00:56:39.910 --> 00:56:41.559 Quinlan Conf Room: And my closing is not. 386 00:56:42.670 --> 00:56:44.539 Quinlan Conf Room: That issue, we didn't have any… 387 00:56:44.820 --> 00:56:52.849 Quinlan Conf Room: There's no traffic control improvements for there, and… I'm just asking whether that could be… 388 00:56:52.970 --> 00:57:01.120 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, it's something that council could decide that they want to do again. This is just like an initial project, saying, Hey. 389 00:57:01.560 --> 00:57:10.310 Quinlan Conf Room: These are reasonable corridors, but Council could look more broadly and add corridors when we get to implementing projects. 390 00:57:10.990 --> 00:57:19.090 Quinlan Conf Room: And there's only 3… traffic signals along McClellan, and two of them are… are accounted for here. 391 00:57:19.230 --> 00:57:23.779 Quinlan Conf Room: It's only McClellan above that is. Yeah, exactly. 392 00:57:25.470 --> 00:57:38.909 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, that's something that I believe we've been looking at that one to see whether you have enough data connectivity to that signal, and I believe it is there, or that was being discussed at some point. Yeah, it's not connected to our network currently. Okay. 393 00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:44.009 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, I think as part of the, you know, technology gives us proof of concept that 394 00:57:44.670 --> 00:57:54.310 Quinlan Conf Room: We did some time ago, that was one area. We're looking at the school areas to see how we can bring that, and I believe that the Finch was already included in student screen. 395 00:57:54.600 --> 00:57:57.110 Quinlan Conf Room: But I don't believe… Hold on. 396 00:57:58.270 --> 00:58:00.319 Quinlan Conf Room: The bubbler wasn't. So that's 397 00:58:02.650 --> 00:58:17.500 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, another question I have is, like, one of the things last time we got the feedback is, the data collection. We wanted to… if you want to make any future decisions or improvement, we want to use the data collection, like, before and after, kind of a thing, so… 398 00:58:18.110 --> 00:58:22.350 Quinlan Conf Room: I didn't see anything there to say how we plan to get that. 399 00:58:22.390 --> 00:58:31.190 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, so… That was the feedback last time in Planning Commission that the feedback was there. We provided the feedback, and I believe Council also said the same thing. 400 00:58:31.190 --> 00:58:45.029 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah. And then we developed the project effectiveness guidelines which lays out the approach for pre project collection and post project collection to determine. Alright, what's the result after we put in these projects? So looking at 401 00:58:45.030 --> 00:59:03.810 Quinlan Conf Room: collision rates, pre project collision rates, post project, and then counts pre project counts post project. And then we within the guidelines created this term, the safety plus mode shift rate. So when looking at whether or not a project was effective, did we have an increase in cycling? 402 00:59:03.810 --> 00:59:11.339 Quinlan Conf Room: That was also associated with a decrease in collisions. So that's included as appendix J which was reviewed. 403 00:59:16.640 --> 00:59:18.299 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, that's all I have. 404 00:59:18.930 --> 00:59:22.239 Quinlan Conf Room: Excellent. Any more comments? 405 00:59:22.620 --> 00:59:25.629 Quinlan Conf Room: discussion. I I do have some comments. 406 00:59:25.950 --> 00:59:26.960 Quinlan Conf Room: So… 407 00:59:27.670 --> 00:59:44.699 Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, I'd like to make some general statements about the the plan. I I think I'm I'm pleased that the restoring has pushed some of the intersections up in the in the ranking. I I compared before and after so, and I would agree with Commissioner Marcy about 408 00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:50.030 Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, the plan seems to do a very reasonably good job with the pedestrian infrastructure. 409 00:59:50.080 --> 01:00:06.520 Quinlan Conf Room: and I think that's important. But it seems to be very heavily weighted in that in that direction, and I also agree with him about these neighborhood routes. I've ridden some of them. There was one close to my house. It's like I'm not sure why they're they're some of them are ranked very high. 410 01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:09.420 Quinlan Conf Room: And it just doesn't make any sense to me. 411 01:00:09.540 --> 01:00:23.220 Quinlan Conf Room: I think if you look at what our goals are, I mean, we have Vision Zero, you know, zero KSIs by 2040. They're looking at this climate action plan where active transportation is 412 01:00:23.460 --> 01:00:34.339 Quinlan Conf Room: I think 15% of all trips by 2030, which seems like it's out of reach already, and 23% by 2040, I think. It's something ambitious. 413 01:00:35.070 --> 01:00:56.289 Quinlan Conf Room: And then you look at the VTA plan, which the connectivity, they want some connectivity. So if you get commuters traveling into Cooperton, I think we seem to be focused mainly on the community a lot, but it's important. But also you want to. There's a lot of people working at Apple. You want them to ride their bike instead of having driving their car. 414 01:00:56.500 --> 01:00:57.700 Quinlan Conf Room: So, 415 01:00:58.540 --> 01:01:07.359 Quinlan Conf Room: And then you look at what Alta… the way Alta has described Cupertino, it seems like they… in one of the existing condition memorandum. 416 01:01:07.850 --> 01:01:10.620 Quinlan Conf Room: It… it seems that, 417 01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:26.569 Quinlan Conf Room: They're saying all the right things. I mean, they have a statement in there that says, to make active transportation an even more attractive option, Cupertino must address the major corridors that serve as obstacles for people walking, biking, and rolling. 418 01:01:26.700 --> 01:01:33.510 Quinlan Conf Room: Streets such as Stevens Creek Boulevard, Ganza Boulevard, and Homestead Road are crucial to connectivity. 419 01:01:33.640 --> 01:01:40.309 Quinlan Conf Room: But their design and high traffic volumes present significant challenges to safe travel by walking or biking. 420 01:01:40.560 --> 01:01:46.180 Quinlan Conf Room: Where facilities do exist, they may not feel comfortable for all ages and abilities to use. 421 01:01:46.560 --> 01:01:56.200 Quinlan Conf Room: These high traffic corridors often isolate residential areas, making it difficult for residents to access local destinations or regional transit stations safely. 422 01:01:56.680 --> 01:02:05.590 Quinlan Conf Room: To address this, the city should focus on improving major corridors by creating safe and comfortable options for people to walk, bike, or roll. 423 01:02:05.820 --> 01:02:19.810 Quinlan Conf Room: Doing so will create a safer and more accessible, more accessible routes for residents and visitors, thereby improving overall connectivity and supporting the city goals for sustainable, walkable Cupertino. 424 01:02:20.070 --> 01:02:35.439 Quinlan Conf Room: And if I look at this plan, and I still think the rankings are important, you may say, well, okay, we generally do the stuff that's up front, but the corridors are… they're all… the top 7, they're all for, that are listed in the, 425 01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:44.929 Quinlan Conf Room: Division 0, as far as 70% of the KSIs go, they're all pushed down below. I mean, I listed them out right now. 426 01:02:46.330 --> 01:02:49.100 Quinlan Conf Room: You know, Stevens Creek has got 69. 427 01:02:49.380 --> 01:03:08.709 Quinlan Conf Room: Homestead's 187 Dan's Dan's is not even ranked. There's a little segment at 183. But there's a that section particularly north of I've written that section. That's we widen the bike lane, but not that section north of Stevens Creek. That's really tight. In fact, it's I. When we approve that 428 01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:24.769 Quinlan Conf Room: We we didn't approve that. We looked at it in a commission meeting, and then I looked at it, and and we wanted that land wider. It was actually made narrower than what's shown in the conceptual plans that were given to us. So it's really it's not. It's not comfortable. 429 01:03:24.940 --> 01:03:29.419 Quinlan Conf Room: It's that section from De Anza down to, Stevens Creek, going southbound. 430 01:03:29.970 --> 01:03:34.500 Quinlan Conf Room: Stelling's at 68, 80. 431 01:03:34.680 --> 01:03:37.569 Quinlan Conf Room: Wolf is 83, Bollinger 78. 432 01:03:37.710 --> 01:03:40.689 Quinlan Conf Room: So, I'm looking at this and thinking, well, we're not… 433 01:03:41.100 --> 01:03:55.869 Quinlan Conf Room: We're not getting Division 0, and we're not even going to come close to this Climate Action Plan, and we're not going to… we're not working with GTA on connectivity, because I think they're looking at… they're looking at De Anza Boulevard, I think they're looking at Homestead. 434 01:03:55.920 --> 01:04:01.360 Quinlan Conf Room: And I think there's a few other boulevards there that we really don't address. So 435 01:04:01.560 --> 01:04:07.329 Quinlan Conf Room: you know, and and having commuted to Menlo Park for about 25 years on my bike. 436 01:04:07.530 --> 01:04:16.320 Quinlan Conf Room: I know connectivity is really important, so you want to make corridors that you encourage people to bike. Take cars off the road. 437 01:04:16.490 --> 01:04:18.000 Quinlan Conf Room: And, so… 438 01:04:18.140 --> 01:04:24.530 Quinlan Conf Room: I… so I… I think the… there's things about the plan I like, and the plan says a lot of stuff up front that's… 439 01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:34.470 Quinlan Conf Room: So, it seems very good, and, you know, they're spot on, it seems like they're directed, but when we get down to that scoring and the listing of the projects, and I'm hearing what you're saying. 440 01:04:34.590 --> 01:04:45.650 Quinlan Conf Room: It's not all, you know. We don't take them in any order. Well, I think in the end, somebody looking at this document 5 years from now, and this document is probably going to be out there for 10, given the way things go. 441 01:04:45.830 --> 01:04:51.499 Quinlan Conf Room: And they're not, they're just going to look at the, okay, the top 25, the top 50. 442 01:04:52.020 --> 01:04:58.520 Quinlan Conf Room: They're just going to stay with that. That's how it works, even though you tell me differently. 443 01:04:58.720 --> 01:05:18.050 Quinlan Conf Room: And the scoring criteria again was established, based on the comments we got from this body, the planning commission, and ultimately the direction that was provided from Council. So the project lists reflects what the Council has decided on how they want to score projects. And I do believe we actually also moved the needle on that just on our 444 01:05:18.250 --> 01:05:30.179 Quinlan Conf Room: most recent review, where we… we were the one actually… we were the body actually pushing for getting those corridors better ranking by deprioritizing some of the school priorities. So… so I think 445 01:05:30.180 --> 01:05:42.250 Quinlan Conf Room: there's never a perfect scoring, let's put it that way. I mean, I think we can… we can change it again, and we can change it again and again, and I think there will be always some areas where, oh, my project is just not in the list there. I think the… 446 01:05:42.250 --> 01:05:48.740 Quinlan Conf Room: this is a pretty good plan. I honestly believe this is a… this is… with all the constraints that we're working on. 447 01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:59.530 Quinlan Conf Room: we have put a lot of effort into this plan over the last year and a half, and I feel like we are at this point ready where we need to say, let's call this a plan. 448 01:05:59.620 --> 01:06:19.210 Quinlan Conf Room: it has, especially the disclaimer where it says, projects do not have to be ordered in execution in in the way they are. So I think it's it's probably time for starting actually implementing. And this, in my opinion, is the time now, because I think the Council meeting is coming up in September. 449 01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:36.920 Quinlan Conf Room: if we… if we don't necessarily get this approved, we probably miss the September, and then probably gonna miss the year, I guess. One, I mean, make a comment, right? So, one possibility to kind of address some of the current concerns… I think the whole idea of the pedestrian 450 01:06:36.980 --> 01:06:42.620 Quinlan Conf Room: being given priority is by design, right? Because if you look at it, the first time when… 451 01:06:42.860 --> 01:06:50.549 Quinlan Conf Room: the staff put together this plan and got the input from the community, including the Bicycle Bicycle Commission. 452 01:06:51.260 --> 01:06:59.590 Quinlan Conf Room: we wanted to prioritize that. The input was like, you know, pedestrian safety should be prioritized first, and so that's good that that's reflected in the plan now. 453 01:06:59.930 --> 01:07:05.190 Quinlan Conf Room: Regarding the high-injury network revisions, you know, that was also set at that time, as well. 454 01:07:05.190 --> 01:07:20.820 Quinlan Conf Room: One possi- so it's not exactly mapping the Vision Zero network, so one possibility is similar to how you have this technology corridor map. It's possible to put that high-injury corridor map as well, in the plan, or you provide a reference back to the Vision Zero plan. 455 01:07:20.820 --> 01:07:26.319 Quinlan Conf Room: Many of the other cities who have done this ATP, or they call it as a bicycle pedestrian plan. 456 01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:30.119 Quinlan Conf Room: They have kind of shown that Vision Zero. 457 01:07:30.150 --> 01:07:38.450 Quinlan Conf Room: high injury corridors are also part of the, you know, the active transportation plan, right? So that way, when in future, when the 458 01:07:38.720 --> 01:07:51.259 Quinlan Conf Room: Council is picking up projects, like, out of this dot, map, right? They could prioritize, like… like, how you're showing technology corridors, similarly, high-energy corridors will be shown as well, and they could… 459 01:07:51.430 --> 01:07:56.449 Quinlan Conf Room: Pick projects and the proximity of those corridors, or on the corridor itself. 460 01:07:56.680 --> 01:08:08.230 Quinlan Conf Room: That's one way of addressing this problem. I can show some of the other cities, ATPs, which specifically follow the high-energy network. Yeah. So you're envisioning a… 461 01:08:08.250 --> 01:08:24.969 Quinlan Conf Room: a page that contains the… just as a reference? As a reference material, exactly, I'm showing. That way, you know, somebody's taking up this plan, we'll… they're not adding any new data, it's basically data, a reference from the other document. Is that a… is it feasible? 462 01:08:25.040 --> 01:08:30.480 Quinlan Conf Room: It's a recommendation. Yeah, the plan includes the high injury network as a map. 463 01:08:32.100 --> 01:08:44.190 Quinlan Conf Room: Is that what's being proposed here? Yeah, just showing the high injury network. Yeah, so that's already in the plan. That is on page… it's early in the document, 464 01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:50.830 Quinlan Conf Room: For the recommended network, you can also bring that in if you want. That's another… 465 01:08:53.229 --> 01:08:57.179 Quinlan Conf Room: High injury network. Yeah, it's here on page 34. 466 01:08:58.250 --> 01:08:59.610 Quinlan Conf Room: Yep. Yep. 467 01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:12.939 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah. So it is. It is here. It can be referenced as well. Yeah. So if you wanted to put that as a recommended one of your recommended paradigms, we could also highlight this one, this page. 468 01:09:13.090 --> 01:09:14.840 Quinlan Conf Room: So that will kind of address… 469 01:09:15.220 --> 01:09:21.239 Quinlan Conf Room: some of the concerns raised by the provisional mesh there. 470 01:09:32.710 --> 01:09:49.269 Quinlan Conf Room: It's referenced somewhere. Yeah, this reference here on page 33 talks about that here. By focusing on these high risk areas, the city can more effectively prioritize safety improvements and allocate resources where they will have the greatest impact. 471 01:09:50.770 --> 01:10:04.359 Quinlan Conf Room: It's on page 33, 33, and 34. Yeah, we also have the Improving Safety, that page also highlights ADP provides a framework to turn the high-energy network locations in. So I feel like this is already covered. 472 01:10:07.550 --> 01:10:08.580 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. 473 01:10:09.140 --> 01:10:20.300 Quinlan Conf Room: Anything else, folks, anything else we should be covering? I have a question on the table on page 88. 474 01:10:20.790 --> 01:10:23.669 Quinlan Conf Room: So, some of these projects have 475 01:10:24.170 --> 01:10:30.029 Quinlan Conf Room: multiple options, like, you know, separated and buffered by VIN and stuff like that, right? We could take… 476 01:10:30.270 --> 01:10:33.180 Quinlan Conf Room: 68 and 69. Okay. 477 01:10:33.350 --> 01:10:35.980 Quinlan Conf Room: They have two options, right? So… 478 01:10:36.610 --> 01:10:46.470 Quinlan Conf Room: I'm I'm just trying to see. You know how to interpret this data. Right? So yeah, that what you're referring to. Yeah, like, you know, if you take 479 01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:58.279 Quinlan Conf Room: 62, right? Separated by pave, and then buffered by pave, one below the other, right? Does it mean, you know, both are options for that 480 01:10:58.770 --> 01:11:00.180 Quinlan Conf Room: Look, that's sweet. 481 01:11:00.900 --> 01:11:09.509 Quinlan Conf Room: No, these are referencing different projects. So going back said 62. Yeah. 482 01:11:10.670 --> 01:11:26.950 Quinlan Conf Room: Project number 62. Okay, yeah. So that's for the Blaney corridor. Yeah, it would be a combination of separated bike lane, which is what's shown on network map. So that would be separated over I- 280. 483 01:11:27.060 --> 01:11:30.440 Quinlan Conf Room: buffer for the remaining stretch. Okay, yeah. 484 01:11:30.540 --> 01:11:37.389 Quinlan Conf Room: So… and then there's some, you know, purely just separated by key, right? So… and, like… 485 01:11:38.400 --> 01:11:42.690 Quinlan Conf Room: Go down, right, that would be… 69. 486 01:11:44.350 --> 01:11:47.369 Quinlan Conf Room: There's, like, 92 each of them. 487 01:11:47.610 --> 01:11:49.910 Quinlan Conf Room: Just so separate, and 94… 488 01:11:50.080 --> 01:12:00.750 Quinlan Conf Room: only separated by… so… so that means that's the only option for that road? Is that what it means? No, that means that's the recommended option. Okay, okay. 489 01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:07.899 Quinlan Conf Room: Excellent. Thank you. Anything else. 490 01:12:08.490 --> 01:12:09.959 Quinlan Conf Room: on the plan. 491 01:12:10.670 --> 01:12:16.620 Quinlan Conf Room: So, in the recommended actions, right, is there any reference back to the, the Vision Zero partners? 492 01:12:17.320 --> 01:12:21.660 Quinlan Conf Room: I see that, you know, where you have page 34, there is… 493 01:12:21.990 --> 01:12:26.349 Quinlan Conf Room: Our goal, our objective, saying that these are the areas that can be prioritized. 494 01:12:27.030 --> 01:12:32.300 Quinlan Conf Room: but as part of your recommendation, do we also state the same thing? 495 01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:37.820 Quinlan Conf Room: It's within the prioritization metrics, so… the… 496 01:12:38.050 --> 01:12:41.410 Quinlan Conf Room: Category that was weighted most heavily is the… 497 01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:47.919 Quinlan Conf Room: high injury network. So it's 30 points. If the project is on the high injury network and 498 01:12:48.390 --> 01:12:55.420 Quinlan Conf Room: Reduced scoring, I forget if it's 10 or 20, if it's within 1,000 feet Okay. 499 01:12:56.730 --> 01:13:01.939 Quinlan Conf Room: For some reason, some of those corridors, the projects fell, fell down on the, on the run. 500 01:13:02.100 --> 01:13:03.670 Quinlan Conf Room: Everything's tied up, yeah. 501 01:13:03.830 --> 01:13:21.869 Quinlan Conf Room: And part of it is probably because some of those may take away parking and have some impact on that which again was one of the criteria we developed over time, so that probably may have balanced it out a little bit with the priority versus the the cost, so to say. Yeah. 502 01:13:22.450 --> 01:13:29.850 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, but it's true, I think it's… the information is there, as we said, right? Even though in the past plans, like, there are multiple tiers and so on. 503 01:13:30.230 --> 01:13:37.220 Quinlan Conf Room: not necessarily the Council made decisions just based on that. Sometimes projects in Tier 3 were proven 504 01:13:37.400 --> 01:13:41.970 Quinlan Conf Room: As well, so… I think this gives a good balance of 505 01:13:42.670 --> 01:13:46.130 Quinlan Conf Room: You know, the ranking, and… 506 01:13:47.820 --> 01:13:55.680 Quinlan Conf Room: But at least we have enough information in order for the councils to pick the projects or cluster the projects as needed. 507 01:13:56.890 --> 01:14:08.220 Quinlan Conf Room: There'll not be anything perfect. Like, maybe if you go now, go and change the scoring a little bit, now something else will fall apart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I don't know whether we can make it perfect. Yeah. 508 01:14:08.690 --> 01:14:27.529 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I agree. I mean. I agree with you know, Commissioner Gunga's sentiment like, really, look at you know our city like, are there more walkers? Are there more bikers? A lot of people. Right? Yes, there are a few bikers. Yes, you know, like myself. 509 01:14:27.750 --> 01:14:32.670 Quinlan Conf Room: we want to make it safe for everyone, but I think, you know, the way it turned out, you know. 510 01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:35.219 Quinlan Conf Room: A lot of part of this, I'm walking. 511 01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:39.200 Quinlan Conf Room: I'm pretty happy with that in terms of, like, if we get that slot. 512 01:14:39.320 --> 01:14:42.739 Quinlan Conf Room: Or maybe he does, and he will… I mean, we 513 01:14:43.380 --> 01:14:58.319 Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, we may wish for, you know, everybody working in Apple, you know, we want them to come and buy. Our wish is one thing, but it's, you know, what we want to do is different, right? So, at the end of the day, you know, we have to work within the framework of, you know, what people want. 514 01:14:58.900 --> 01:14:59.840 Quinlan Conf Room: So. 515 01:15:00.650 --> 01:15:08.480 Quinlan Conf Room: And and I think you know, there's a lot more people that walk, and you know, in our city, and gotta make it safe for them. 516 01:15:10.530 --> 01:15:16.579 Quinlan Conf Room: I'm actually quite encouraged about the plan, to be honest. I've read it probably twice from the front to the back, 517 01:15:16.810 --> 01:15:18.790 Quinlan Conf Room: And yes. 518 01:15:19.070 --> 01:15:34.239 Quinlan Conf Room: it's a plan. It's not… never gonna be perfect. There's gonna be… can probably spend another year on it, and it's gonna be incrementally smaller, better, but I think the key is just to start implementing. I think that's the real… so that's why… 519 01:15:34.460 --> 01:15:36.819 Quinlan Conf Room: I'm looking for a motion. 520 01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:38.000 Quinlan Conf Room: Good thing. 521 01:15:38.150 --> 01:15:50.889 Quinlan Conf Room: this plan, or actually to recommend. Before we do that, I'd like to. We have a motion to remove the back, the neighborhood back routes projects from this. 522 01:15:51.030 --> 01:15:51.830 Quinlan Conf Room: No. 523 01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:55.539 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, that's the most. 524 01:15:59.360 --> 01:16:15.199 Quinlan Conf Room: I'm struggling with that. Yeah, I don't see a reason why something's removed, like, because it says… There's gonna be some other artifacts that are coming out, so let's, when we remove those. 525 01:16:15.210 --> 01:16:24.550 Quinlan Conf Room: Then we're gonna have back to the discussion board and say, Oh, now, this project went the wrong order. So now we need to do that. I think it's like, you know, if we remove it. 526 01:16:24.740 --> 01:16:34.680 Quinlan Conf Room: So does it prioritize something else higher? Is that why it's not prioritizing higher, or is it removing stuff that does not serve a real purpose? 527 01:16:35.060 --> 01:16:42.600 Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you. It's because money doesn't solve a problem to me. To me that that sounds like not a good value proposition. 528 01:16:42.980 --> 01:16:53.209 Quinlan Conf Room: But there's no harm in having it, right? It's up to us, you know, which one we implement, right? The council… anything that costs money will come to the bike commission, as well as, you know. 529 01:16:53.370 --> 01:17:09.239 Quinlan Conf Room: city council for approval. Right? So it's at the discretion of the future commissions and council to take up those projects around. Then, if you say, well, that's that cost money and doesn't matter. Then you can take that pretty far in terms of 530 01:17:09.310 --> 01:17:18.389 Quinlan Conf Room: spending of the city out there. I think what we want is the city to, you know, use the money as wisely as possible. 531 01:17:18.660 --> 01:17:30.940 Quinlan Conf Room: And it's just not the case with this neighborhood background, unless someone tells me that there is a use case for it, that people either really need it or solve the problem right now. 532 01:17:30.940 --> 01:17:45.439 Quinlan Conf Room: just don't see it. I don't see the problem that it solves, and I don't see the community benefit. I see the cost that it's gonna, generate, not only in terms of building, but also in terms of maintaining, because that type of stuff you have to do, and again, project managing everything. 533 01:17:45.440 --> 01:18:03.819 Quinlan Conf Room: it's gonna it's it's gonna cost a significant amount of money. There's a hidden cost. There's a front cost painting, asking people from construction to come. But there's also the hidden cost and the time of stuff that they're not gonna spend on meaningful projects. So I don't. I don't really look at it as oh, I want to prioritize some other project. It's just really that neighborhood. 534 01:18:03.890 --> 01:18:05.030 Quinlan Conf Room: routes. 535 01:18:05.170 --> 01:18:21.810 Quinlan Conf Room: to me to not look at an investment for the city that brings anything. Can you give me an example of that? Like, you know, I'm trying to look for an example. That's not a neighborhood bike project that costs a lot, but not to so many. But just give me an example. 536 01:18:22.050 --> 01:18:37.839 Quinlan Conf Room: Well, I think, as I said, it's like, if you want to build it, you have to have someone from the staff to work on it, project manage it, you're gonna have, like, resources, time that's allocated to that. So already you start with that, then you have the construction phase, and it's like… 537 01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:49.650 Quinlan Conf Room: There is 68 of them. So if you multiply that by 68, it's quite a long way. If I could just make a pitch, just throw it out there. I think what it does. 538 01:18:50.030 --> 01:18:58.119 Quinlan Conf Room: I think it's important to have a plan that appeals to all ages and abilities at various levels, and 539 01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:04.500 Quinlan Conf Room: whereas I agree the importance of focusing on, you know, improving the corridors. 540 01:19:04.630 --> 01:19:11.390 Quinlan Conf Room: The major corridors, there's a segment of the population, a young segment, I see them on their bikes with their parents. 541 01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:12.540 Quinlan Conf Room: that… 542 01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:21.340 Quinlan Conf Room: want to ride through the neighborhoods, and this is how kids learn. You're not gonna… you're not gonna put your 5-year-old on Stevens Creek Boulevard, no matter how safe 543 01:19:21.740 --> 01:19:25.100 Quinlan Conf Room: And I think encouraging the younger generation. 544 01:19:25.260 --> 01:19:34.640 Quinlan Conf Room: And maybe we need to think about how we make these bike boulevards appeal to folks a little better if they're not being adequately used. 545 01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:48.960 Quinlan Conf Room: But I think having a network that is available and accessible, appealing to the families, the younger kids, will help foster them to grow into people that will be more likely to get out on the 546 01:19:48.990 --> 01:19:58.220 Quinlan Conf Room: major streets as the… No, I get that part, right? Definitely, no, but I'm just looking for an example where, you know, a neighborhood bike 547 01:19:58.310 --> 01:20:05.510 Quinlan Conf Room: plan or a route that was implemented, which cost us a lot of money and not serving the purpose. I'm looking for an example. 548 01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:08.510 Quinlan Conf Room: If we don't have an example, Daniel. 549 01:20:09.360 --> 01:20:12.619 Quinlan Conf Room: They're not saying, you know, we're going to go do all these projects. 550 01:20:12.940 --> 01:20:25.470 Quinlan Conf Room: It's there as an option you want to pursue. So some of these… I can give some examples, right? So when you say neighborhood, right, these are typically residential neighborhoods where 551 01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:33.649 Quinlan Conf Room: We're encouraging people to, for the, as, as David was saying, like, Anglo-Saxon kids to buy. 552 01:20:33.910 --> 01:20:40.389 Quinlan Conf Room: Typically, like, these are also identified in Safe Route School as a preferred bike routes to school. 553 01:20:40.930 --> 01:20:42.360 Quinlan Conf Room: That's another thing. 554 01:20:42.710 --> 01:20:56.979 Quinlan Conf Room: And also, in some cases, like in Portal, for example, you could also employ common methods. Class 3 bike routes are something that's already given in the state plan, class 1, 2, 3, how to implement, and so on. This one is a shared 555 01:20:57.100 --> 01:21:09.010 Quinlan Conf Room: But, basically, the same prob will be shared by car users, as well as, bike users, and even pedestrians, they are… we are… we are sitting as pedestrian walkways. So… 556 01:21:09.700 --> 01:21:24.160 Quinlan Conf Room: But, you know, on top of it, if you want, if you think that certain, neighborhood, route is not safer, you could have calming mechanisms, like, you know, I think the price avenue has something, right? Speed tables. 557 01:21:24.160 --> 01:21:30.520 Quinlan Conf Room: And then on portal that we have some curve extensions which will slow down the cars. 558 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:38.519 Quinlan Conf Room: So, make it safer. So, if you think that, you know, Vincent's projects are coming up to… in front of the council, and if they believe that, you know, some of the streets are 559 01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:45.179 Quinlan Conf Room: you know, safer, they can have such common methods as well. Nobody stops us from doing that. 560 01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:50.160 Quinlan Conf Room: So I think it's still valuable to keep it, and most of these 561 01:21:50.360 --> 01:21:53.220 Quinlan Conf Room: You know, neighborhood bike roads are already marked. 562 01:21:53.470 --> 01:22:06.819 Quinlan Conf Room: and in use. There's no reason to go and remove those things. One thing is, nothing prevents us. I think what you mentioned about the streets and, you know, the schools. 563 01:22:07.090 --> 01:22:22.840 Quinlan Conf Room: assigning certain, you know, routes as being safer for… you don't need a… you don't need a neighborhood background, like an official one, to make that happen. You can make that happen no matter what. So I think, yeah, it's… 564 01:22:23.020 --> 01:22:29.979 Quinlan Conf Room: It's just. And if you want to do that projects about, you know, using this bit of cars on that. That's great. 565 01:22:30.370 --> 01:22:40.520 Quinlan Conf Room: way to do that at the intersection level, that's already in there. I'm talking about the streets, which are, you know, some streets, even though they're neighborhood streets. 566 01:22:41.060 --> 01:22:54.460 Quinlan Conf Room: Auto will somehow take those streets as a shortcut or whatever reason. And so those streets, there are potential for us to, you know, make it safer by having speed coming, you know, methods. 567 01:22:54.780 --> 01:23:00.620 Quinlan Conf Room: And that's basically what I'm saying. There's no reason to really take it out, and, you know, in future, if the project comes up. 568 01:23:01.160 --> 01:23:03.320 Quinlan Conf Room: Staff will recommend, if… 569 01:23:03.910 --> 01:23:23.190 Quinlan Conf Room: that streets needs such kind of street coming message, or you just need to put signs or something like that. There's one thing also coming back to to your point about removing the one that are there now. I'm not advocating for that. Obviously, if it's here, it's here, we're not gonna change it, but it's creating something new. And again, like somebody, many of these routes. 570 01:23:23.190 --> 01:23:35.780 Quinlan Conf Room: I think the benefit is just very low for the… for whatever investment. I think we are overstating the problem here. I think we're overstating the cost as well. So, we have a motion on the table. Do we have a second for the motion? 571 01:23:35.850 --> 01:23:36.750 Quinlan Conf Room: Second. 572 01:23:37.130 --> 01:23:38.220 Quinlan Conf Room: Let's do it. 573 01:23:40.300 --> 01:23:46.000 Quinlan Conf Room: On this motion for the motion is to remove the neighborhood backlogs. 574 01:23:46.660 --> 01:23:49.430 Quinlan Conf Room: In the list of projects, as an option. 575 01:23:50.700 --> 01:24:03.849 Quinlan Conf Room: Good vote on this? Yep. On the motion on the table, how do you vote? Chair Ashbach? No. Vice Chair Manipala? No. Commissioner Ganga? No. Mr. Marcy? Yes. Commissioner Wolf? Yes. Okay. Motion fails. 576 01:24:04.410 --> 01:24:09.140 Quinlan Conf Room: So looking for a motion to 577 01:24:09.430 --> 01:24:18.769 Quinlan Conf Room: get this to what is the right terminology to recommend that the City Council adopt the transportation. 578 01:24:23.280 --> 01:24:25.639 Quinlan Conf Room: Do we have an issue with that? 579 01:24:27.820 --> 01:24:29.869 Quinlan Conf Room: And then, yes, alright. 580 01:24:30.540 --> 01:24:32.030 Quinlan Conf Room: I can recommend. 581 01:24:32.170 --> 01:24:35.990 Quinlan Conf Room: You moved to approve. Yeah, I moved up on that. Do we have a second for that as well? 582 01:24:36.230 --> 01:24:45.130 Quinlan Conf Room: I'll second in a second with a proper motion with proper second. Let's do a vote on resolution, please. Okay, for 583 01:24:45.240 --> 01:24:48.560 Quinlan Conf Room: the motion to recommend that the City Council adopt the 584 01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:57.059 Quinlan Conf Room: Active Transportation Plan, how do you vote, Chair Archuleta? Yes. Vice Chair Manipalo? Yes. Commissioner Ganga? Yes. Commissioner Marcy? 585 01:24:57.710 --> 01:24:59.570 Quinlan Conf Room: I'm sure we'll no. 586 01:25:00.040 --> 01:25:03.050 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, motion passes 3, 1, abstention, 1, no. 587 01:25:03.770 --> 01:25:08.509 Quinlan Conf Room: Excellent, thank you so much for… Touching on it. Super helpful. 588 01:25:09.570 --> 01:25:13.169 Quinlan Conf Room: I appreciate it, and hopefully the Council will be able to 589 01:25:13.410 --> 01:25:17.140 Quinlan Conf Room: use the information from the Planning Commission's notice. 590 01:25:17.370 --> 01:25:25.899 Quinlan Conf Room: by Commissioner. That closes the topic number 2 on the agenda tonight brings us to our agenda. Item. 591 01:25:26.190 --> 01:25:32.869 Quinlan Conf Room: which is bicycle facilities improvement, and I think we have a presentation on this topic as well. 592 01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:33.489 Quinlan Conf Room: Good evening, Chair and Commissioners. Myself, Prashant Dillu, Assistant City of Copartino. Tonight, I'll be presenting the item number 3, the Bicycle Facilities Program. 593 01:26:35.400 --> 01:26:50.019 Quinlan Conf Room: As a recap, during the May 20th, 2026 bicycle pedestrian meeting, the commission unanimously agreed to divide the proposed bike rack locations among the commissioners for review. 594 01:26:50.170 --> 01:27:03.129 Quinlan Conf Room: And each commissioner agreed to evaluate their assigned locations and provide recommendations. The commission also requested the staff to investigate a potential bike rack location opportunities near the school sites. 595 01:27:04.410 --> 01:27:14.429 Quinlan Conf Room: and also return in July to discuss the next steps. Tonight, staff is returning with the proposed locations for discussion and to receive the Commission's recommendation. 596 01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:26.759 Quinlan Conf Room: This slide shows the table which summarizes the proposed bike rack locations and also the evaluation criteria which has been used. 597 01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:38.060 Quinlan Conf Room: to select this 24 location, and also this, this slide identifies the… the locations where the bike rack has been already installed. So, at that 4 locations, the bike rack has been already installed. 598 01:27:38.100 --> 01:27:44.130 Quinlan Conf Room: And this slide also shows the locations which were assigned to each for the review. 599 01:27:46.410 --> 01:27:53.549 Quinlan Conf Room: This slide shows all the proposed bike location, how they are distributed throughout the city, which were supposed to be reviewed by the commissioners. 600 01:27:55.640 --> 01:28:09.350 Quinlan Conf Room: The next steps, based upon tonight's discussion, CTE will proceed with the installation at agreed-upon sites, and also staff will return to BPC for further recommendations upon evaluation of the cost versus budget. 601 01:28:11.170 --> 01:28:18.589 Quinlan Conf Room: This concludes my presentation. We'll be happy to hear from you regarding your feedback on your review of the bike rack locations. 602 01:28:19.250 --> 01:28:20.779 Quinlan Conf Room: Spreadsheet. Yeah. 603 01:28:21.470 --> 01:28:29.660 Quinlan Conf Room: So we've got the spreadsheet that had the locations along with the assignments, and we populated it with the ones that we know. 604 01:28:30.060 --> 01:28:37.510 Quinlan Conf Room: So, so… I'll go first, right? So, if you want to pull up my email that I sent… Yeah. 605 01:28:38.110 --> 01:28:40.959 Quinlan Conf Room: They're popping up. David. 606 01:28:41.100 --> 01:28:44.669 Quinlan Conf Room: So, I'm happy to walk you through it. 607 01:28:45.020 --> 01:28:53.380 Quinlan Conf Room: Do you want the detailed email? Because we have created this Excel sheet. Yeah, I also took some pictures right out of one shot. 608 01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:12.099 Quinlan Conf Room: It's really cold in this room, actually. Yeah. Feels like. 609 01:29:12.350 --> 01:29:14.670 Quinlan Conf Room: Feels good to me. 610 01:29:15.730 --> 01:29:24.330 Quinlan Conf Room: You can pull up the map, Google Maps, and I can move off. Oh, you want me to? Okay, that would be easy. Yeah, that would be easy, right? So go to Charlton Park. 611 01:29:24.630 --> 01:29:26.420 Quinlan Conf Room: Zoom in. Let me see. 612 01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:29.850 Quinlan Conf Room: That's one of the locations that I visited. 613 01:29:33.950 --> 01:29:39.650 Quinlan Conf Room: going off the Southern part. So Let's see. 614 01:29:39.790 --> 01:29:41.130 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, like that. 615 01:29:42.270 --> 01:29:44.100 Quinlan Conf Room: Richard, yeah. 616 01:29:44.940 --> 01:29:48.270 Quinlan Conf Room: So, I think… Zoom out a little bit. 617 01:29:48.930 --> 01:29:50.169 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, a little bit. 618 01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:55.790 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, so that's good, right? So so this is the 619 01:29:57.090 --> 01:30:01.850 Quinlan Conf Room: Can you smile a little bit? I want to see this area part of it. 620 01:30:03.120 --> 01:30:03.900 Quinlan Conf Room: What? 621 01:30:05.400 --> 01:30:09.709 Quinlan Conf Room: This is the the new playground that we've been. 622 01:30:09.860 --> 01:30:16.080 Quinlan Conf Room: So then it's that by the time there's 623 01:30:16.190 --> 01:30:32.779 Quinlan Conf Room: there's a restroom that's built here, there is a bike rack here, right? And that bike rack, it's not shown on this picture, but it's there in the picture that I sent, right? So that one gets used heavily, all the kits that come here. So first of all, since we built this 624 01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:36.829 Quinlan Conf Room: Develop this park. This has become the busiest park. 625 01:30:37.040 --> 01:30:41.739 Quinlan Conf Room: like, this is my full, full block, so I go that video off. 626 01:30:41.850 --> 01:30:59.790 Quinlan Conf Room: This used to be, you know, empty before, right? Since we built this, all-inclusive park, this is the busiest space, you can't find a parking spot. That's how busy. A lot of kids come biking, and they hide their bike and go here. In those days, they want another bike rack here. 627 01:31:01.140 --> 01:31:19.259 Quinlan Conf Room: So, it's similar to this. They want a bike rack somewhere here. For all the kids that come from this side, they're coming in the bikes. They all live in this area, right? They're coming in the bikes. Right now, no, they're leaving the bikes on the trees and, you know, on, you know, branches. They would like a bike rack, you know, on this side of the… 628 01:31:19.490 --> 01:31:33.150 Quinlan Conf Room: You see, there's a massive ballpark here, they want a bike rack somewhere here, similar to the one that we have there, right? And it has to be, like, you know, the multiple bikes type of thing, not, like, you know, one or two, right? There is… 629 01:31:33.660 --> 01:31:35.869 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, multiple bike racks. 630 01:31:35.990 --> 01:31:46.710 Quinlan Conf Room: So that's when the jelly will come. Of course, you know, there were a bunch of other feedback that I got, you know, from people that are walking there, so they definitely want, you know, these walkways, you know, wider. 631 01:31:46.820 --> 01:32:03.640 Quinlan Conf Room: But there's a lot of that thing, right? Because it's also, you know, people fight on that, and there's a lot of, you know, pollution, and also they want benches. So there are some benches there, where the people that are really, you know, walking the path are really, really, you know, elderly people, and they can't… they cannot come full ground. 632 01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:18.799 Quinlan Conf Room: So they want to sit, they want benches along the way, but they also want, you know, this walkway extended around, you know, the dog park, right? Because it's not… the dogs are not always there, so they want to be able to go for a longer route. 633 01:32:18.830 --> 01:32:27.710 Quinlan Conf Room: Right? So that's a request, so I put that, all of that, in the email. Right? So, so that's on Charlieman, right? You go to the Wilson Park. 634 01:32:27.890 --> 01:32:29.909 Quinlan Conf Room: So my recommendation is, yes. 635 01:32:30.080 --> 01:32:36.630 Quinlan Conf Room: installed by that spot that I was showing, basically, in this area, for the kids that come from this site. 636 01:32:37.400 --> 01:32:46.799 Quinlan Conf Room: I'm sorry I'm confused about the format. Are we going to talk about every location for every Commissioner tonight, or I think so. Yeah. Can you go to the Wilson Park? 637 01:33:00.070 --> 01:33:04.739 Quinlan Conf Room: Right? Yeah. So here. 638 01:33:04.930 --> 01:33:17.049 Quinlan Conf Room: A lot of kids that come here, they come biking, and there is a demand for, you know, a multi-bike ride in this area. I spoke with kids, you know, that are 639 01:33:17.230 --> 01:33:34.329 Quinlan Conf Room: like, basketball there. They say, no, yeah, they all come biking, and, you know, they just, you know, drop the bike, you know, put it on, slant the… right? There is a bike rack next to the… multiple bike racks, you know, next to the baseballs, but that is not getting used at all. 640 01:33:34.470 --> 01:33:38.210 Quinlan Conf Room: But I don't think anybody wants to park the bike there and walk here. 641 01:33:38.480 --> 01:33:55.509 Quinlan Conf Room: they really want to get up to the spot, and, you know, be able to, you know, leave a bike in the vicinity, and then, you know, play and take a bike. So there is a need for a bike rack in this area, so I would recommend, you know, installing a bike rack there. 642 01:33:55.800 --> 01:33:59.690 Quinlan Conf Room: Can you go to the Starbucks? 643 01:34:09.550 --> 01:34:10.680 Quinlan Conf Room: It was April. 644 01:34:19.390 --> 01:34:20.060 Quinlan Conf Room: Sweet. 645 01:34:22.450 --> 01:34:30.730 Quinlan Conf Room: I think this is Starbucks. This is the Starbucks coffee company. So, I spoke to the staff on, you know, some of the people. 646 01:34:30.830 --> 01:34:48.049 Quinlan Conf Room: They say that, you know, a lot of, because it's bike, they get a lot of bike traffic. They stop at the Starbucks to get a coffee or a pastry or something like that. They don't have a place to, right? So there's a wooden structure here. They are now hanging on tie into that structure, right? 647 01:34:48.050 --> 01:35:03.700 Quinlan Conf Room: So, we want a bike ride somewhere here that's visible, right? Where, you know, they can sit inside and they don't want to keep a watch on the bike, and, you know, enjoy their coffee at least, right? So, there is a need for a bike ride. 648 01:35:03.820 --> 01:35:08.900 Quinlan Conf Room: Meeting around this, you know, Starbucks, right? That makes great sense, you know. Yeah. 649 01:35:09.140 --> 01:35:14.839 Quinlan Conf Room: There are a lot of bikers that come there because it's on the open. It's a very popular spot for bikers. Yeah. 650 01:35:14.990 --> 01:35:17.859 Quinlan Conf Room: And the fourth spot that, you know. 651 01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:21.159 Quinlan Conf Room: Right? I spoke to all the shops there. 652 01:35:21.220 --> 01:35:28.619 Quinlan Conf Room: They don't see a need for no bike racks. That's, you know, on the, De Anza and McClellan Road. 653 01:35:28.620 --> 01:35:41.509 Quinlan Conf Room: Junction, and the Leo, Adobe, and, you know, I spoke to five of those shops, and in fact, you know, there is a bike rack, you know, between those shops, and it's not getting used enough. So, you know, I wouldn't recommend, you know, a bike rack there 654 01:35:42.640 --> 01:35:43.540 Quinlan Conf Room: Great. 655 01:35:44.140 --> 01:35:46.110 Quinlan Conf Room: That's awesome. Thank you. 656 01:35:47.350 --> 01:35:48.610 Quinlan Conf Room: Next. 657 01:35:49.260 --> 01:35:50.610 Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you. Billings. 658 01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:55.640 Quinlan Conf Room: So… 659 01:35:57.660 --> 01:36:11.169 Quinlan Conf Room: I can pull the Excel sheet, if you want. Yeah. So which of the numbers did you recommend, Moni, for, just for the people, keep a record, which are the numbers of… It's in my email, I need a copy of the mail also. Okay. 660 01:36:14.280 --> 01:36:18.380 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, I'll start with the one that I recommend, so let's start with the 5. 661 01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:26.420 Quinlan Conf Room: regard regarded many. I already had transported this into the mix. Thank you. 662 01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:31.920 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I didn't send you anything, but I can give you the input now Number 5. 663 01:36:32.510 --> 01:36:33.789 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, number 5. 664 01:36:34.430 --> 01:36:40.889 Quinlan Conf Room: So the 5-feet radiator, that's actually on the, you know, 19800, Valco Parkway. 665 01:36:48.890 --> 01:36:49.680 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. 666 01:36:52.240 --> 01:36:56.970 Quinlan Conf Room: pull from them. Appreciate the Google Maps. Certainly. 667 01:37:08.090 --> 01:37:08.800 Quinlan Conf Room: Yep. 668 01:37:11.740 --> 01:37:13.580 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, so there's no objection. 669 01:37:15.930 --> 01:37:17.650 Quinlan Conf Room: Let me show this. 670 01:37:18.650 --> 01:37:26.590 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah. So this is somewhere here like, yeah, keep going. And then 671 01:37:27.330 --> 01:37:30.320 Quinlan Conf Room: The 19, 8, 8, 800. We'll see. 672 01:37:30.810 --> 01:37:32.639 Quinlan Conf Room: Possibly. And those. 673 01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:35.420 Quinlan Conf Room: Right. 674 01:37:39.370 --> 01:37:56.880 Quinlan Conf Room: somewhere here. Yeah. So you could see the trash can here. There is a possibility for having next to next to the trash can. There's some space here. Yes. So yeah, exactly. Yeah. So there is a possibility to have. 675 01:37:57.150 --> 01:37:58.779 Quinlan Conf Room: By last year. 676 01:37:58.860 --> 01:38:16.720 Quinlan Conf Room: And also, ideally, you say that, you know, it needs to be in front of the, business. That's one of the criteria. But right now, there are no businesses here, retail businesses. The retail businesses are either on the other side of the, entrance to the apartment complex, or… 677 01:38:16.720 --> 01:38:25.320 Quinlan Conf Room: Or it's a condo complex. And then on the other side, similarly, there are some retail places there. So some matcha. 678 01:38:25.390 --> 01:38:33.430 Quinlan Conf Room: Latte place and some ice cream places, they don't have the same, but nothing directly. But this is the only place that where you could have it. 679 01:38:33.440 --> 01:38:45.830 Quinlan Conf Room: This one doesn't make sense, this is just an entrance, and also there is an accessibility here, so I wouldn't recommend to place the bike lap onto this side, but this one seems to be on… away from the… 680 01:38:46.570 --> 01:38:50.660 Quinlan Conf Room: Rest of the trash cans. Right, right. So that's… this is… 681 01:38:50.850 --> 01:38:54.810 Quinlan Conf Room: one place. I yeah, sorry. So so. 682 01:38:55.190 --> 01:39:01.829 Quinlan Conf Room: How… if you put a bike rack that's, you know, away from, you know, where people want to go. 683 01:39:02.060 --> 01:39:16.259 Quinlan Conf Room: how much we think, you know, that we can… Yeah, so one thing I found out is parking is… I was trying to go on, you know, park there, and very hard, like, I had to do two circles around before I can even get a parking space, and… 684 01:39:16.260 --> 01:39:24.349 Quinlan Conf Room: That was a challenge in this place. That is true for anyone coming to those retail outlets, so it's possible that, you know, kids who want to come there. 685 01:39:24.780 --> 01:39:31.459 Quinlan Conf Room: They have access to bikes, then they could bring their bikes to these places, right? 686 01:39:31.620 --> 01:39:45.900 Quinlan Conf Room: But the challenge is exactly what you said. You can park there, but you can't unfortunately see right in front of the business, and there are two empty, spots in there. There's a potential that in future, maybe some retail 687 01:39:46.510 --> 01:39:51.290 Quinlan Conf Room: and otherwise rent it to some retail, outlet. There's a possibility, but right now, I don't 688 01:39:51.870 --> 01:39:57.390 Quinlan Conf Room: all the eateries where I see a lot of people going there, they're all available. 689 01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:06.060 Quinlan Conf Room: And we don't have enough… we don't have space for bike racks in front of those places. Yeah, yeah, I… my… 690 01:40:06.190 --> 01:40:24.330 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I don't want us to waste money on things. If you don't want, then we can skip this. This is the first one. Then let me go to… Are you okay with that? So you're saying no to this location? Yeah. Okay. I'm just giving you… Why are we talking about all four of them and we come back to this one for you? Okay. 691 01:40:25.190 --> 01:40:25.970 Quinlan Conf Room: Yes. 692 01:40:26.330 --> 01:40:31.530 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, and then the second one is, let's go in front of, 693 01:40:33.890 --> 01:40:42.349 Quinlan Conf Room: The Lazy Dog, no, let's finish this area and then go to the Student Street. The Lazy Dog driveway, east of Student Street. 694 01:41:03.610 --> 01:41:17.469 Quinlan Conf Room: So, yeah, you start seeing this side, right? So here, this one, over here. That's next to the straw, right? That's it. Right now, that straw is, not, yeah, it's right in front of us, right? So… 695 01:41:18.280 --> 01:41:32.659 Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, we can't have bike racks closer to this, you know, so it has to be away from it, and then if you go away from it, there's nothing in there. There's no retail outlets, nothing, and it's… if you look at it, this whole thing is nicely tailed, you know. 696 01:41:32.660 --> 01:41:41.080 Quinlan Conf Room: And where do you park? You would park maybe in one of these places, and nothing, nowhere to go. So I don't think the bikers will use it here. 697 01:41:41.390 --> 01:41:51.589 Quinlan Conf Room: Ideally, all the retail outlets are on the other side. So I wouldn't recommend anything in that location. 698 01:41:52.230 --> 01:41:56.849 Quinlan Conf Room: Come back when you are on Stevens Creek, can you get, next to Lazy Dog? 699 01:41:59.410 --> 01:42:12.979 Quinlan Conf Room: There's an exit here. There is an exit, yeah. This is a walkway through the Main Street complex. Can you go on the street that's on the right? Can you go in? Yeah. 700 01:42:15.030 --> 01:42:29.669 Quinlan Conf Room: this lazy dog next to the straw. I thought, means on the other side. But this is also this is lazy dog. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. So so can you go into inside the driver? Yeah, yeah, exactly. 701 01:42:30.450 --> 01:42:44.089 Quinlan Conf Room: because there is a bike rack on the right here. If you're talking about lazy, not specifically. Yeah, on the right. Here there's a bike rack. There's a bike rack here. Yeah, yeah. And do you know if it's getting used? 702 01:42:44.550 --> 01:43:00.479 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, it's used because you have employees that are using it, but generally it's used, yeah. So maybe the idea is to put one, if possible, on the series, where if you turn around, it's literally 180 degrees. 703 01:43:00.690 --> 01:43:08.850 Quinlan Conf Room: You will see the byproduct on the other side. So this would have to be coordinated with 704 01:43:09.530 --> 01:43:30.200 Quinlan Conf Room: property owner. So if I think the best I encourage the business owner, if they have their facilities, they can put bike racks wherever they want. Yeah, if they see a need and they see a lot of clients coming, they'll probably not do it themselves. I was wondering if that was the city's right of way over there. 705 01:43:30.250 --> 01:43:39.250 Quinlan Conf Room: I was mainly looking at the cities, right, of where I'm at. It's on the main street. The main road, yeah. On the main road, the city's right away. Which number was it? Number… 706 01:43:39.580 --> 01:43:43.290 Quinlan Conf Room: The number for that one was 2, actually, number 2. 707 01:43:43.710 --> 01:43:45.149 Quinlan Conf Room: No, you know, but… 708 01:43:49.160 --> 01:43:52.979 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, and the third one is actually northwest of, 709 01:43:53.090 --> 01:43:56.560 Quinlan Conf Room: Stevens Street Boulevard on, Stevens Street and 710 01:43:57.320 --> 01:43:59.830 Quinlan Conf Room: It's actually right in front of Apple's facility. 711 01:44:04.430 --> 01:44:16.410 Quinlan Conf Room: Do you think the employees don't want to talk about it? No, they have, I mean, I'll come to that. They already have bike rack on their entrance to the building. Entrance to the building is not from the… So this was near the… 712 01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:20.210 Quinlan Conf Room: Which intersection? The whole? Steel Street and the answer. 713 01:44:25.230 --> 01:44:33.819 Quinlan Conf Room: which building is not going to fall. Yeah, Northwest Park, right? So it's Yeah, let's see. 714 01:44:35.880 --> 01:44:39.269 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, this one, this one. So, that's it. 715 01:44:39.470 --> 01:44:57.200 Quinlan Conf Room: there's a potential to have bike racks in one of these places, like under under the tree. The only challenge is like, if you can look at it like the walk, the pedestrian walkway. I do not know how much where the city strike off. We stops on where the building is. There's no clear 716 01:44:57.540 --> 01:45:05.730 Quinlan Conf Room: There's no sidewalk there, huh? There's no sidewalk there. I think people are also using the sidewalk, you know, closer to the building. 717 01:45:05.780 --> 01:45:20.640 Quinlan Conf Room: But the challenge… that one is, like… We've got 10 feet along. What is that? How many… 10 feet behind the face of the curve is the city's right of it. Which is… the 10 feet from here? Yes. Oh, then which means that you don't have enough space to have bike lanes, it has to be right on… 718 01:45:21.140 --> 01:45:36.180 Quinlan Conf Room: You know, facing. Within 10 feet. Within the 10 feet. And, and also people, if you go that way, a lot of people are using the, space apples, or who are the building owner space, but ideally the, the. 719 01:45:36.400 --> 01:45:40.810 Quinlan Conf Room: If you extend this one straight, it will just come just right next to the trees. 720 01:45:40.990 --> 01:46:05.279 Quinlan Conf Room: And you were saying the entrance to the building is actually on the opposite side. On the other side, and this is not… if you look at the criteria, what we say is, like, you know, people who are using the business, they should be able to see the bikes when they are using the business, and this business is basically Apple right now. Now it has the bike racks, I think they have really cute, you know, long, long bike racks on the other side where the entrance is. But there is already a set of bike racks? Yes, exactly. 721 01:46:05.280 --> 01:46:08.050 Quinlan Conf Room: Two of them are there, oh, behind the building. 722 01:46:08.050 --> 01:46:15.309 Quinlan Conf Room: But that's where the Apple employees enter the building, and that's… they have, like, right there. I don't see a need for… 723 01:46:15.360 --> 01:46:21.929 Quinlan Conf Room: or a real use for this one. The other next one is a bank there, and this side is uphill building. It's all, like, businesses, like… 724 01:46:22.010 --> 01:46:28.599 Quinlan Conf Room: I don't see a reason to have it in here, since… Which number was it? Number? This is, 725 01:46:29.730 --> 01:46:31.939 Quinlan Conf Room: Number 7. 726 01:46:36.340 --> 01:46:39.539 Quinlan Conf Room: And the other one is on. 727 01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:47.009 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, southwest corner of Lianza and Rodriguez. 728 01:46:48.170 --> 01:46:51.140 Quinlan Conf Room: just opposite to the Wells Fargo map there. 729 01:46:56.450 --> 01:47:01.200 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, exactly. So that, you know. 730 01:47:02.920 --> 01:47:11.509 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I watch it with honey. It's a grocery store. Grocery store. And then throw all the things. 731 01:47:14.540 --> 01:47:15.480 Quinlan Conf Room: This was… 732 01:47:15.710 --> 01:47:22.029 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, not in front of this, business, but I… from… by looking at it, it's on the corner. 733 01:47:23.160 --> 01:47:26.590 Quinlan Conf Room: So it's on the column. That's right. Actually, the city has to 734 01:47:26.870 --> 01:47:44.110 Quinlan Conf Room: But here, I think… Yeah, right here. Right there, you have this, this donation box. Donation box, yeah. There's not a… this is, like, the middle… ideally, if you wanted a bike rack, we should get one button space next to that box, and have it there. Otherwise, there's… I don't see a… 735 01:47:44.280 --> 01:47:53.880 Quinlan Conf Room: good place for installing bike rack in this place, and I don't think it will be visible from the businesses either, if somebody comes into the restaurant. I really would like to… 736 01:47:54.040 --> 01:47:56.370 Quinlan Conf Room: But, right, in front of the desktop. 737 01:47:56.910 --> 01:48:05.490 Quinlan Conf Room: But there is no space. There's no space. Yeah, I don't see. This is the only location where there we can have. Yeah, exactly. 738 01:48:06.200 --> 01:48:10.040 Quinlan Conf Room: There's nothing in the corner. Corner, yeah, it's right towards this function here. 739 01:48:10.620 --> 01:48:29.679 Quinlan Conf Room: This is the location we were thinking. Maybe the location in the map was cut off. So if you look at it here, there are a bunch of other businesses as well on the other side. But if you place it here, people… 740 01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:32.220 Quinlan Conf Room: Who are visiting the grocery store will not be able to. 741 01:48:32.360 --> 01:48:42.350 Quinlan Conf Room: view this one, and the people, going to the restaurant, they can view it, because they will be on the other side. The entrance is on the other side, but they are sitting here, they could view it. 742 01:48:42.680 --> 01:48:44.290 Quinlan Conf Room: This is all possibility. 743 01:48:44.310 --> 01:49:03.959 Quinlan Conf Room: This could be a potential, yes. Potentially, yes, I would say. If you wanted to do anything. I don't know, like, did we talk to them? Like, you know, like… I did not talk to the business there, because I was rejecting this place, because I assumed it was in the corner. I mean, that place is… So I also walked all the way here to see whether there's any other… 744 01:49:03.960 --> 01:49:05.210 Quinlan Conf Room: Place there. 745 01:49:05.340 --> 01:49:24.309 Quinlan Conf Room: But for that matter, on the opposite side, also, the only question is, like, it needs to be usable. I don't see any people biking to the restaurant or to the grass system, so there's no reason… I'm riding frequently in that place. So it's a very soft, yes, huh? Is that what it is? I mean, I don't see… 746 01:49:24.310 --> 01:49:27.019 Quinlan Conf Room: how… I mean, nobody's using it right now. 747 01:49:28.070 --> 01:49:39.699 Quinlan Conf Room: It's got to be a place where, you know, people will bike and come. Like, in Starbucks, for example, bikers, you know, stop. Yes, makes sense, makes sense. This one, I don't have real use for it. 748 01:49:40.540 --> 01:49:54.219 Quinlan Conf Room: if at all anyone is coming to those businesses, I will see their bikes right in front. I frequent that place, I will be here, and I don't see it. This number, the number, it was… Oh, that number is, 749 01:49:55.990 --> 01:50:12.940 Quinlan Conf Room: 9. That's a lot of money. Yeah, I took all copious notes, and I as well took some pictures of hers, but I look like this is good. So for you, we can consider number 5 and number 9 as a soft yes or no no? 750 01:50:12.940 --> 01:50:22.169 Quinlan Conf Room: That's what I took away from this, from this discussion here. Yeah. Soft, soft. Yeah. It's like a tier or, or it'll certainly be on the first one with prior. 751 01:50:22.360 --> 01:50:31.199 Quinlan Conf Room: in the priority, I would say, put 5 as the higher priority on this one, because at least I saw there are a lot of businesses in that destination. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 752 01:50:32.470 --> 01:50:33.780 Quinlan Conf Room: Alright, who's next? 753 01:50:34.760 --> 01:50:36.700 Quinlan Conf Room: And then I also saw the end of it. 754 01:50:36.960 --> 01:50:53.380 Quinlan Conf Room: Kids are frequenting that place near in front of the Valpo. Very interesting. But they have to join shops, boba shops and… Exactly. There's interesting places where people… Yes. But the problem, first thing is, you know, are they going to park their bike there and walk, right? That's the challenge, yeah. 755 01:50:54.730 --> 01:50:55.689 Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you. 756 01:50:56.500 --> 01:50:57.530 Quinlan Conf Room: Marcy? 757 01:50:59.750 --> 01:51:03.129 Quinlan Conf Room: Let's go to the bottom of the park. 758 01:51:06.220 --> 01:51:08.630 Quinlan Conf Room: Which one? Portal. 759 01:51:29.230 --> 01:51:35.559 Quinlan Conf Room: Oh yeah, if you… Move here, I think. Let's do a big round of the ideal… 760 01:51:36.370 --> 01:51:37.910 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, it's next to me. 761 01:51:38.720 --> 01:51:51.129 Quinlan Conf Room: to have background backgrounds there. I think there's like a little bit of a grass grassy area. Most of the families in general are on this side. City of So I think it makes sense to hide. But 762 01:51:52.110 --> 01:52:02.289 Quinlan Conf Room: Because it's a park, we don't have to put it across the street, so ideally you want to move it away from the street, just for safety reasons, and I think that in order for the families to be able to watch 763 01:52:02.480 --> 01:52:08.049 Quinlan Conf Room: their kids and the bikes at the same time, I think somewhere around here would be ideal, because that's where you can… 764 01:52:08.260 --> 01:52:15.800 Quinlan Conf Room: you know, have visibility from anywhere. The more like you want to go back. So yes, if you have a grass somewhere. 765 01:52:16.360 --> 01:52:23.640 Quinlan Conf Room: And if we don't… bike somewhere else, just like the ride somewhere else, and then you can add more. 766 01:52:24.340 --> 01:52:26.459 Quinlan Conf Room: There it is. Multiple. 767 01:52:29.370 --> 01:52:34.609 Quinlan Conf Room: The number? Which number was it? That was mine. 22. 22, okay. 768 01:52:37.400 --> 01:52:41.410 Quinlan Conf Room: Is that a yes? Yes. Yeah. Yes, multiple racks. 769 01:52:45.010 --> 01:52:52.390 Quinlan Conf Room: I don't see parks, you know, in general, I see young kids coming to the park. Yeah, sorry, there's always kids in there. 770 01:52:53.540 --> 01:52:58.810 Quinlan Conf Room: Number 16. Not this corner of Pienza, Pienza and Civic Park Lane. 771 01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:03.640 Quinlan Conf Room: It's. 772 01:53:14.820 --> 01:53:17.519 Quinlan Conf Room: It's in the northeast corner. 773 01:53:18.230 --> 01:53:20.120 Quinlan Conf Room: This corner. Yes. 774 01:53:20.370 --> 01:53:25.420 Quinlan Conf Room: So I think, yeah, this one, can you go with the… Thank you. Yes. 775 01:53:25.940 --> 01:53:29.060 Quinlan Conf Room: Is that the… the leper and their… 776 01:53:29.560 --> 01:53:33.710 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, there is a bakery, there is a bar bakery. 777 01:53:33.870 --> 01:53:52.050 Quinlan Conf Room: I think if we have the right of way here, I think that would be good. Then go into the shop before. I'm not a huge fan of having it close to the street, because that. But if it's not like a long. 778 01:53:52.220 --> 01:54:03.049 Quinlan Conf Room: a long stop. I think that that will still be valuable to have a tower back right here. 779 01:54:03.430 --> 01:54:12.130 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah. The only challenge I felt was, like, you see, there is a little bit slope on the sidewalk. Yes. Yeah, we have to see how much we can tackle that issue. 780 01:54:12.610 --> 01:54:20.770 Quinlan Conf Room: Otherwise, this location here in between would be another option. Ideally, that would be better than here, because it looks like 781 01:54:21.120 --> 01:54:22.100 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. 782 01:54:22.860 --> 01:54:24.370 Quinlan Conf Room: From nowhere, right? So… 783 01:54:24.840 --> 01:54:40.839 Quinlan Conf Room: But only thing is you can't. I don't know whether you can see it from the business or not. Yeah, there you can. You can see it from the business. You can't hide in front of the fire. But you can do it. Yeah, yeah, gotcha. Between the trees might be a better location, I think. Yeah. 784 01:54:42.050 --> 01:54:44.500 Quinlan Conf Room: to make it look for nice stuff. 785 01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:47.190 Quinlan Conf Room: So that would be a yes. 786 01:54:48.890 --> 01:54:50.590 Quinlan Conf Room: So it's, like, 16? 787 01:54:51.150 --> 01:54:55.240 Quinlan Conf Room: Next one is, northwest corner of Wharf and Apple Park. 788 01:54:56.830 --> 01:54:57.490 Quinlan Conf Room: So. 789 01:55:15.420 --> 01:55:17.289 Quinlan Conf Room: This is an office building, right? 790 01:55:18.380 --> 01:55:21.570 Quinlan Conf Room: We got, we got the… We're thinking near the bus stop. 791 01:55:22.830 --> 01:55:24.579 Quinlan Conf Room: Somewhere here, actually. 792 01:55:25.610 --> 01:55:35.230 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, in this location, I think it would make sense given that there is a bus stop here. So there are some shops, obviously some directly on both. 793 01:55:35.410 --> 01:55:42.830 Quinlan Conf Room: But no, so what's thinking on bus stops, right? You know, are you expecting people to come and park their bike there and get on the bus? 794 01:55:43.090 --> 01:55:46.820 Quinlan Conf Room: Potentially, yes, and you see behind you, I saw some shops. 795 01:55:47.090 --> 01:55:49.150 Quinlan Conf Room: So… Bye. 796 01:55:49.370 --> 01:56:09.180 Quinlan Conf Room: I don't. I've never seen anyone do that, leaving a bike somewhere. No, but but people usually take the bike and put it on the bus and go right. What I would suggest is that why don't we have one in the city in front? 797 01:56:11.540 --> 01:56:12.350 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. 798 01:56:12.830 --> 01:56:19.629 Quinlan Conf Room: We could try. I mean, we can try and see, and maybe that's gonna give us some good information. What's the recommended location exactly, Steven? 799 01:56:20.160 --> 01:56:25.329 Quinlan Conf Room: But, somewhere. Yes, I think you have this one. 800 01:56:25.890 --> 01:56:32.720 Quinlan Conf Room: I'll be generally interested in seeing if people work, and if not, then that's fine, but I'll try. 801 01:56:33.140 --> 01:56:47.690 Quinlan Conf Room: I don't know. Ideally, people who are going to the business… I mean, if you even look at the criteria, that's what we said, right? The people going to the business, they should be able to bring their bikes, you know, go into the business and come back and take their bike and go away. I don't think people will… 802 01:56:47.950 --> 01:56:56.039 Quinlan Conf Room: parked somewhere in the middle of nowhere, then take us… So what kind of businesses do we have there? Like, are they, like, you know… 803 01:56:56.540 --> 01:57:04.120 Quinlan Conf Room: So you have any borough here, and Right. 804 01:57:06.400 --> 01:57:08.960 Quinlan Conf Room: Matcha tone ice cream… 805 01:57:09.080 --> 01:57:15.559 Quinlan Conf Room: This place is very, very busy all the time. Typically, it's not inside. They're not on the road. 806 01:57:15.850 --> 01:57:21.880 Quinlan Conf Room: What could be possible also if you go up? 807 01:57:22.600 --> 01:57:29.640 Quinlan Conf Room: It's… There'll be also a departure vote. 808 01:57:30.250 --> 01:57:43.580 Quinlan Conf Room: near the intersection. Yeah, go up a bit more. I think there was the coffee shop at the seventies cafe here. I know here it's also a place where a lot of cyclists come. 809 01:57:43.750 --> 01:57:49.010 Quinlan Conf Room: And take their cafe here, so there will be a question whether that's still not sitting right away. 810 01:57:49.140 --> 01:57:55.010 Quinlan Conf Room: That's the one from that. Is that the same street? No, no, that's homestead. Find the homestead. Yeah. 811 01:57:55.680 --> 01:58:10.799 Quinlan Conf Room: So this one definitely. So here, here, if that's the city right away, I would put that here, because I know that some cyclists are coming here from their from their right. So it seems almost a better place than the than the other one down with the gas station. 812 01:58:11.340 --> 01:58:18.459 Quinlan Conf Room: I was just speaking on the other one. Right between the trees. Basically. 813 01:58:19.930 --> 01:58:31.630 Quinlan Conf Room: Challenging numbers between the… Yeah, that'll be a little challenging, but we can work on it. You know, just thinking aloud, right? Like, you know, these are busy junctions. 814 01:58:31.720 --> 01:58:37.439 Quinlan Conf Room: Would kids be encouraged to come on the bikes? They're less likely, right? 815 01:58:37.440 --> 01:58:39.460 Quinlan Conf Room: So, it's more for, you know. 816 01:58:39.460 --> 01:59:02.050 Quinlan Conf Room: The real providers that are stopping by the coffee shop or something like that, right? So the kids, they all go on the most of them are on scooters and they go to the matchup. Yeah, they don't just, yeah. What I saw is that more spandex type of cyclists who are coming here, that would be probably didn't stop and get a coffee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 817 01:59:03.860 --> 01:59:11.069 Quinlan Conf Room: So we'll we'll explore the please use them. Great. But the the need for Spanish is spelling cycles is 0. 818 01:59:11.830 --> 01:59:16.639 Quinlan Conf Room: We'll explore the area and we'll see where the where it will be feasible and you know. 819 01:59:16.860 --> 01:59:21.000 Quinlan Conf Room: Possibly linked to that. It sounds like the general vicinity would be a good place, though. Yeah 820 01:59:21.500 --> 01:59:28.280 Quinlan Conf Room: And the last one is, East of Steel Street Boulevard and Whole Foods Broad The number, which is… 821 01:59:29.010 --> 01:59:29.780 Quinlan Conf Room: 7. 822 01:59:58.810 --> 01:59:59.730 Quinlan Conf Room: system. 823 02:00:00.010 --> 02:00:00.750 Quinlan Conf Room: One. 824 02:00:01.160 --> 02:00:18.969 Quinlan Conf Room: Whole food stream. That's the spirit you're talking about. My understanding is that there's going to be. There will be a redevelopment. There's going to be a redevelopment. So I think I would wait. You should wait for. What's going on? What's going on? What's going to look like? 825 02:00:19.190 --> 02:00:25.520 Quinlan Conf Room: the gophers. That would be a different thing. But if it's that door here, in a sense, I think you need to. 826 02:00:25.960 --> 02:00:27.390 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. 827 02:00:27.650 --> 02:00:31.350 Quinlan Conf Room: We already have both booths opened up, it was one location, actually. 828 02:00:31.500 --> 02:00:37.959 Quinlan Conf Room: you wouldn't mind, Jordan. Are you okay? Go ahead. 829 02:00:38.330 --> 02:00:41.369 Quinlan Conf Room: This is all who's here. So 830 02:00:41.660 --> 02:00:56.209 Quinlan Conf Room: Notice that on Whole Foods, we already have part of my grant. I don't see there's a need, and honestly, I never saw any bikes there. I visited all locations a few times during different times. 831 02:00:56.370 --> 02:00:59.220 Quinlan Conf Room: But there was a there's a bike break right next to the end. 832 02:00:59.670 --> 02:01:08.420 Quinlan Conf Room: That I think is sufficient in that… in that location. The next, so this is number 8 for me. I would say no, because we already have 833 02:01:09.640 --> 02:01:15.049 Quinlan Conf Room: About that, sir, who was… are currently in use. Then we have, 834 02:01:15.770 --> 02:01:19.029 Quinlan Conf Room: The northeast corner of Deans and Bollinger. 835 02:01:20.020 --> 02:01:22.410 Quinlan Conf Room: Meeting section of the on-site volunteer. 836 02:01:35.270 --> 02:01:36.080 Quinlan Conf Room: Let's see. 837 02:01:47.110 --> 02:01:57.129 Quinlan Conf Room: So, interestingly enough, in this area, there's actually really not much going on. There's nothing. It's totally dead air in this particular building. 838 02:01:57.130 --> 02:02:10.150 Quinlan Conf Room: So I don't think there's a need for here, but if you go downwards to the southeast corner, there is quite a bit of activity. 839 02:02:10.270 --> 02:02:11.060 Quinlan Conf Room: Kaylin. 840 02:02:14.470 --> 02:02:33.640 Quinlan Conf Room: But I did not see, I mean, this didn't seem like an active area. Yeah, that used to be some fast food restaurant down here. Now there is some clients or whatever. I live there. So it's a pretty. 841 02:02:33.740 --> 02:02:38.580 Quinlan Conf Room: dead spot. Yeah, yeah, this looks for redevelopment, I think, for somebody to… 842 02:02:38.690 --> 02:02:48.900 Quinlan Conf Room: So that was number 15, no? That was number 15, yeah. And then, the next two are very adjacent, right next to each other. It's the answer town center lanes. 843 02:02:53.540 --> 02:02:55.260 Quinlan Conf Room: So, one was… 844 02:02:56.000 --> 02:03:03.389 Quinlan Conf Room: That was the that's the one. Yeah, that one. It was proposed somewhere here. But I started from coming in from the 845 02:03:04.170 --> 02:03:05.859 Quinlan Conf Room: We are. 846 02:03:10.650 --> 02:03:12.569 Quinlan Conf Room: We're thinking somewhere here. 847 02:03:13.540 --> 02:03:16.680 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, but… Terms and… 848 02:03:17.140 --> 02:03:26.589 Quinlan Conf Room: Go back first to — Oh, sorry. Oh, so there are two locations on the Tori side. This is the Tori side. Yeah, this — or do you want to look? Yeah. Yeah, here. 849 02:03:26.670 --> 02:03:44.599 Quinlan Conf Room: So there is. You can see it actually has 25. Actually, none of them were used again. There are multiple businesses there. I do not think there is a justification. There is a coffee place there, too, right? Yeah, it's right next door. Yeah, the coffee place is right. Yeah. 850 02:03:44.630 --> 02:03:47.319 Quinlan Conf Room: So here is the biorex here, right behind it. 851 02:03:47.390 --> 02:03:50.300 Quinlan Conf Room: There's 20, 20 by the way, it's okay. 852 02:03:50.740 --> 02:03:54.859 Quinlan Conf Room: You continue on that way. There's a coffee shop right next there. 853 02:03:55.100 --> 02:04:14.000 Quinlan Conf Room: It's actually weird. That's fine, because I always came from the other side, and I never saw the bike rides. Yeah, no, there, there were never, never a single bike there. No, no, but not a bike. But I couldn't. I didn't. I never noticed that there were bike rides. Yeah, yes. 854 02:04:14.330 --> 02:04:23.310 Quinlan Conf Room: So so I did not see a need in that in that neighborhood, honestly, to to put anything on there until until we see those and more better use there. 855 02:04:24.660 --> 02:04:28.480 Quinlan Conf Room: Every time any kids go there, that's for the… to the bittersweet. 856 02:04:28.480 --> 02:04:47.720 Quinlan Conf Room: Otherwise, others are all dismissive. But then, you say, you know, there's only a bike rack. Yeah, this is a… I think it's an Indian restaurant, or it was an Indian restaurant at some point in time. You see the bike racks? Yeah, yeah. It's 22 right now. Maybe the apartment, yeah. It's from the residential department. 857 02:04:47.720 --> 02:05:03.559 Quinlan Conf Room: So, for you, number 13, and somebody really likes, like, next to each other. But the one, the one for, for the tea shop, is that, is that a yes? Because to me, it would be, I think it would be nice. The one you mentioned, like, on the tourist side. 858 02:05:03.610 --> 02:05:04.270 Quinlan Conf Room: Yep. 859 02:05:04.480 --> 02:05:23.139 Quinlan Conf Room: We already have the library in front of the library, and it's like next to the coffee shop. And I don't think you're back at the library to then go to the coffee shop. Both sides of the library is there in front of the coffee shop. On this side here, I think it would be nice to have one. 860 02:05:23.880 --> 02:05:46.669 Quinlan Conf Room: So what kind of shops are there? There's only one Chinese restaurant. My dentist is there right now. We may have the same dentist, but yeah, this side. For your number 13 was somewhere here. Number 13 was this location. For your location in the number 13, town center lane. 861 02:05:46.690 --> 02:05:48.630 Quinlan Conf Room: It was this location. 862 02:05:48.840 --> 02:05:53.310 Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, I thought it was the the other side. There's the numbers. 863 02:05:53.450 --> 02:06:09.099 Quinlan Conf Room: 17 was the other side. Oh. Number 13 was Town Center. No, I thought they were right next to each other, so I did not realize, because from the description, Town Center, they… it sounded like the same place. If people want to eat here, you can keep an eye on your back. Yeah. It's a great location. Yep. There's space. 864 02:06:11.570 --> 02:06:16.159 Quinlan Conf Room: Are there other businesses as well, or is it just private property? 865 02:06:16.280 --> 02:06:25.059 Quinlan Conf Room: It's a private policy. Yeah, then I would say, yeah. If they get bypassed, they're most likely to install one of themselves, right? 866 02:06:25.700 --> 02:06:42.239 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, the the that was the only spot where we had some additional. And honestly, also, there is opposite right opposite. There is like the yeah, the library. And I wouldn't feel like it's when you eat. 867 02:06:42.240 --> 02:06:51.429 Quinlan Conf Room: it's… it's nice to have just… you don't have to be, like, looking up far away from the bike, it's nice to have a good lens. You want to be right in front of you. But if it's not 868 02:06:51.430 --> 02:06:52.740 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, Ray's right. 869 02:06:55.000 --> 02:06:59.559 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, so for Gerhard, all no. Everything? Yeah, I think so. 870 02:06:59.910 --> 02:07:01.439 Quinlan Conf Room: Jill, you want to start? 871 02:07:02.280 --> 02:07:08.070 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, 1st one is Northwest corner of Stevens Creek and Tantown. 872 02:07:08.670 --> 02:07:10.359 Quinlan Conf Room: Let's click and tap, though. 873 02:07:18.920 --> 02:07:19.640 Quinlan Conf Room: Stop. 874 02:07:25.730 --> 02:07:27.480 Quinlan Conf Room: Near the Molly tickle. 875 02:07:29.830 --> 02:07:31.240 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I think… 876 02:07:32.320 --> 02:07:41.510 Quinlan Conf Room: It's slated for this corner. There's really I've never seen any need for a bike rack there, but if we could move it across the street to 877 02:07:41.770 --> 02:07:45.670 Quinlan Conf Room: the southwest corner, and use… utilize this for SE area. 878 02:07:45.990 --> 02:07:50.649 Quinlan Conf Room: I think that would at Molly T. It was like a subway there. But there's a lot of 879 02:07:50.770 --> 02:07:57.009 Quinlan Conf Room: For right now there's a lot of people that that solicit, I mean, go to that business. Yeah. 880 02:07:57.850 --> 02:08:01.690 Quinlan Conf Room: So, I… I wouldn't be surprised if it would utilize… 881 02:08:13.160 --> 02:08:17.250 Quinlan Conf Room: You want to go to the next one, or you want to look at the street view. 882 02:08:17.980 --> 02:08:20.830 Quinlan Conf Room: you know. 883 02:08:21.310 --> 02:08:26.990 Quinlan Conf Room: Right? This is before Molly. She opened up. 884 02:08:27.250 --> 02:08:35.279 Quinlan Conf Room: we say, say, somewhere in this vicinity between the streetlight and the tree. Yeah. 885 02:08:37.810 --> 02:08:54.420 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I think students also kind of right. Yes, they might come from all those kids, you know, might go there. But I walked by, I rode by today, and it was fairly crowded. And that was, that's what the Starbucks near Post Harvey said. They get a lot of kids from 886 02:08:54.490 --> 02:08:58.530 Quinlan Conf Room: The schools, both the schools, coming on bikes. 887 02:09:00.580 --> 02:09:04.979 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, so… What was the number? That was number one. Number one, okay. 888 02:09:05.770 --> 02:09:14.410 Quinlan Conf Room: But the… I'm sorry, so… Okay, yeah, I'll modify it. 889 02:09:15.320 --> 02:09:25.330 Quinlan Conf Room: Next one is west of Stevens Creek Boulevard and Lazy Dog Driveway. So that's just on the other side of Number 2, which we met. 890 02:09:27.200 --> 02:09:29.060 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I think here, yeah. 891 02:09:31.610 --> 02:09:38.450 Quinlan Conf Room: This is the lazy dog, and… Yeah, there's… there's 5 racks right in here already that are utilized, so that's, I can… 892 02:09:38.980 --> 02:09:47.199 Quinlan Conf Room: But there's really no need to. I think the workers use these bike racks in here. Sometimes you see 4 or 5 bikes in there. So 893 02:09:47.600 --> 02:09:51.879 Quinlan Conf Room: I don't really think that they would utilize the racks up here. 894 02:09:52.160 --> 02:09:52.860 Quinlan Conf Room: Okay. 895 02:09:53.630 --> 02:09:56.450 Quinlan Conf Room: No, and I've looked for another location. 896 02:09:57.120 --> 02:10:03.480 Quinlan Conf Room: I don't think there's anything that would When we update these criteria. 897 02:10:04.350 --> 02:10:06.359 Quinlan Conf Room: So I will say no to that. 898 02:10:06.980 --> 02:10:10.280 Quinlan Conf Room: And then the next one is Stevens Creek Boulevard and Main 899 02:10:11.640 --> 02:10:14.160 Quinlan Conf Room: That's Creek Boulevard and Main Stre 900 02:10:20.750 --> 02:10:25.040 Quinlan Conf Room: And so for this location was, it's the 901 02:10:26.950 --> 02:10:29.890 Quinlan Conf Room: Northeast corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard, M 902 02:10:35.420 --> 02:10:41.959 Quinlan Conf Room: The thing is, there's bike racks, right? You can't see them from here. They're right around the corner. And those racks… 903 02:10:42.260 --> 02:10:46.350 Quinlan Conf Room: It's like 4 or 5 racks, and we've only seen maybe one or… 904 02:10:46.550 --> 02:10:51.219 Quinlan Conf Room: Maybe 2 bikes at most on those racks. So they're really close by. 905 02:10:51.610 --> 02:11:05.320 Quinlan Conf Room: And so I think putting anything here would be, you know, probably a waste of money. But I was trying to figure out where else to go, and if I was wondering if we go down, you know, go west a little bit along the sidewalk. 906 02:11:05.550 --> 02:11:17.529 Quinlan Conf Room: you know, there's a Charles Schwab. Would anybody ride their bike to Charles Schwab? Why not? But yeah, it's probably not the biggest. 907 02:11:17.960 --> 02:11:37.160 Quinlan Conf Room: So let's take a look at that. So I think the kids what they do. They just walk to these shops, and during the break they don't bring their bikes. But it sounds like there's already microbes there. There really isn't any like they need to put any racks in, because they're always enough. 908 02:11:37.210 --> 02:11:42.139 Quinlan Conf Room: And I wouldn't want a parking bike out here. Yeah, yeah. It's crazy, it's crazy, so. 909 02:11:43.400 --> 02:11:53.250 Quinlan Conf Room: and the The last one was Southeast Florida, Stevens Creek Boule It's in there. 910 02:11:54.510 --> 02:11:55.470 Quinlan Conf Room: Yes. 911 02:12:04.490 --> 02:12:08.260 Quinlan Conf Room: There's no hidden, basic information right in here. 912 02:12:10.410 --> 02:12:13.380 Quinlan Conf Room: Nothing. Nothing. 913 02:12:13.640 --> 02:12:27.150 Quinlan Conf Room: You know the my idea was to potentially take. I didn't like this location. Just go further east along the sidewalk. I wonder if they couldn't put one or 2 racks in front of a sweet maple. 914 02:12:27.190 --> 02:12:52.039 Quinlan Conf Room: Because that restaurant's very popular. I don't know if anybody would rise here. Mostly families come when I see Frick. The weekends are really busy. This is super busy. They have to take over the parking from the gas station. We have two lads in front of the shop. 915 02:12:52.040 --> 02:12:55.649 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, this one, this one. 916 02:12:55.750 --> 02:12:58.819 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah. On this side. Yeah. 917 02:12:58.930 --> 02:13:01.799 Quinlan Conf Room: Exactly the right of way. Yeah, it's 918 02:13:03.690 --> 02:13:28.410 Quinlan Conf Room: This used to be something that's like a pacific catch of fish or something, right? Yeah, nowadays it's a hot place. Nowadays we can move it, especially on the weekends. We'll check the fees. But I haven't seen people really riding bikes in that restaurant, mostly in all cars. I know it's a lot of couples soon. 919 02:13:28.410 --> 02:13:44.519 Quinlan Conf Room: I see a lot of couples. I rarely see families. I see a lot of young couples, friends together, but not some. But still, they don't come and bite, like, a couple also, right? 920 02:13:44.600 --> 02:13:50.999 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, we get recently, like, a lot of complaints of parking in the bike lane. There's, like, a, 921 02:13:51.000 --> 02:14:14.210 Quinlan Conf Room: It's sort of. It used to be a nice shopping center. It's like a tea place and a little. That's on the other corner. Yeah, right here. Yeah, drink and stuff. Whereas students go there. It looks like we have space also. Yeah, I think that this might be. 922 02:14:19.870 --> 02:14:24.340 Quinlan Conf Room: This one. So this is like about this city. 923 02:14:24.540 --> 02:14:42.299 Quinlan Conf Room: This is from the high school. They might come from high school. Yes, yes, it's always. It used to be always. So the this will be the 1st preference, this part, if not on the sweet maple. But looks like this is feasible with the open space, the greenery. Yeah, yeah, that would be great. 924 02:14:44.800 --> 02:14:55.190 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I'll compile all this into an Excel sheet, and then we'll share with you guys. If there is any comments or anything more we want to add, feel free to add it. 925 02:14:55.320 --> 02:15:06.050 Quinlan Conf Room: But sounds like we have at least identified a handful of… how many do we need, or… sounds like whatever money we do not spend, we can… 926 02:15:06.050 --> 02:15:19.430 Quinlan Conf Room: can use for other purposes. We don't have to spend the money, it's really just to use whatever is meaningful, and then the rest of the money goes back into… Yeah. Okay, great. 927 02:15:20.030 --> 02:15:22.669 Quinlan Conf Room: Any other questions, comments, thoughts on this name? 928 02:15:22.890 --> 02:15:29.729 Quinlan Conf Room: Nope, that was good. Thanks for… thanks, everybody, for taking the time to visit all those places. I think it's been a good effort. 929 02:15:30.510 --> 02:15:32.610 Quinlan Conf Room: That's that's a new result up here. 930 02:15:33.150 --> 02:15:36.440 Quinlan Conf Room: Excellent. All right. Thank you so much. 931 02:15:36.540 --> 02:15:38.799 Quinlan Conf Room: Do you have a public comment on that item? 932 02:15:39.100 --> 02:15:41.300 Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, so sorry. 933 02:15:42.170 --> 02:15:48.149 Quinlan Conf Room: Do we have a public comment? I'm so sorry we do not. Thank you so much for the reminder. Appreciate it. 934 02:15:48.400 --> 02:15:53.559 Quinlan Conf Room: scare me from here. 935 02:15:54.010 --> 02:15:55.120 Quinlan Conf Room: That's it. 936 02:15:56.500 --> 02:16:09.350 Quinlan Conf Room: So that closes item number 3 on the agenda. So we have item number 4, which is staff update and commission activity report. Do we have anything update David? I could just 937 02:16:09.850 --> 02:16:19.330 Quinlan Conf Room: update on the Stevens Creek Boulevard to a sector bike lanes project. You all probably see the progress. But straight 938 02:16:19.770 --> 02:16:21.939 Quinlan Conf Room: predominantly done. 939 02:16:22.550 --> 02:16:28.470 Quinlan Conf Room: Which includes… Like, the striping… into the bike rides. 940 02:16:29.310 --> 02:16:35.920 Quinlan Conf Room: Next, we'll be putting out the concrete. The traffic signal poles have been incorrectly done with our country. 941 02:16:36.110 --> 02:16:41.010 Quinlan Conf Room: next week, putting out the concrete blocks. 942 02:16:41.559 --> 02:16:45.660 Quinlan Conf Room: Probably within the next couple of weeks, you'll see those go in. 943 02:16:46.040 --> 02:16:51.340 Quinlan Conf Room: And then we're still anticipating the project will be complete by the end of the month. 944 02:16:51.540 --> 02:16:52.820 Quinlan Conf Room: And that's right. 945 02:16:53.070 --> 02:16:56.720 Quinlan Conf Room: in July. Wow! Yes. 946 02:16:57.629 --> 02:16:58.510 Quinlan Conf Room: Yes. 947 02:16:58.750 --> 02:16:59.559 Quinlan Conf Room: So. 948 02:17:00.000 --> 02:17:19.970 Quinlan Conf Room: Any other commissioner reports. I have a question. What happened to the Torrey Avenue and Pacifica? There was supposed to be some improvements. Is it still in progress? Especially you are a signal. Yeah, it's still in progress. It's a budget issue. 949 02:17:20.170 --> 02:17:24.620 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, and when you do the class, you do the work, not just small. 950 02:17:25.090 --> 02:17:41.400 Quinlan Conf Room: Oh, yeah. I know that we are having, like, a reflector there. In some of the cities that I've seen, like, they have aliens. Oh, yeah. So it is actually flashes. So even in the daytime. 951 02:17:41.490 --> 02:17:59.549 Quinlan Conf Room: The stop signs are really for pedestrian crossings, or or yeah, exactly. So especially the story avenue. It will be very useful. Well, we can look at that. I have another place for that. I know you. 952 02:17:59.840 --> 02:18:06.180 Quinlan Conf Room: And these LED lights, I think they operate on solar? Generally, yeah. Yeah, exactly, sorry. 953 02:18:07.610 --> 02:18:09.250 Quinlan Conf Room: That's awesome. 954 02:18:11.379 --> 02:18:12.490 Quinlan Conf Room: Anything else? 955 02:18:12.969 --> 02:18:17.459 Quinlan Conf Room: Commission reports for Vta. There was no Vta. Wasn't Vta. Okay, excellent. 956 02:18:17.780 --> 02:18:24.400 Quinlan Conf Room: Alright, closing this side, and then, future agenda setting, is it… is it okay if we postpone this one to, to next meeting? 957 02:18:24.459 --> 02:18:40.849 Quinlan Conf Room: we usually go with through the list here as a as a way to kind of collect thoughts. I believe the item from the gentleman who was here today is on the list. We just haven't picked it yet. I mean, we just we we have to pick it. Maybe we should put that on the agenda. Yeah, in the in the future. 958 02:18:41.000 --> 02:19:00.600 Quinlan Conf Room: I mean, they came at least twice, right? So when people really want to engage with the city, we need to encourage them to go and engage with them. We should put it on the agenda. Yep. Okay. We can look at that for, not next month, but yes, August is already pretty much booked. September would be, kind of the time to… 959 02:19:01.270 --> 02:19:13.519 Quinlan Conf Room: I think August will be the bearded show, so she will come and there'll be three items. See if there's the e-bike. 960 02:19:13.809 --> 02:19:15.080 Quinlan Conf Room: Discussion. 961 02:19:15.299 --> 02:19:24.649 Quinlan Conf Room: coordination for the bike fest and Commission expressed interest in taking a look at the budget. So Phil. 962 02:19:24.760 --> 02:19:27.870 Quinlan Conf Room: let it over as well. Okay, excellent. 963 02:19:28.299 --> 02:19:36.590 Quinlan Conf Room: Then let's postpone the future agenda setting for the next meeting that gets us essentially into 964 02:19:36.860 --> 02:19:41.010 Quinlan Conf Room: the finish line here. The next meeting is August 19. 965 02:19:41.129 --> 02:19:42.130 Quinlan Conf Room: I don't know. 966 02:19:42.520 --> 02:19:46.529 Quinlan Conf Room: And I join this meeting here. Thank you. Thank you. 967 02:19:47.540 --> 02:19:50.799 Quinlan Conf Room: Meaning I might be in India. I'll send a mail. 968 02:19:51.260 --> 02:19:54.929 Quinlan Conf Room: The next one. Okay, yeah, let me know. 969 02:19:55.370 --> 02:19:56.460 Quinlan Conf Room: Yes, we will. 970 02:19:57.810 --> 02:19:59.520 Quinlan Conf Room: The mobile computer's been back. 971 02:19:59.990 --> 02:20:04.589 Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, I'll before you before you go. 972 02:20:04.750 --> 02:20:07.459 Quinlan Conf Room: I see. Want to meet everyone. 973 02:20:07.760 --> 02:20:22.140 Quinlan Conf Room: remind you, can you turn off my appliance thing? Yeah, yeah. I, I just wanted, I turned off. Okay, so you, you, like, you, I mean, forget the network. Okay. It's my laptop. Okay. Okay, good, thank you.