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Home My WebLink AboutBPC 02-18-2026 Youtube and Zoom TranscriptionWEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.510 Quinlan Conference Room: It's, 7 o'clock. 2 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:05.440 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I ask staff to proceed with the rollerblower piece. 3 00:00:06.310 --> 00:00:08.520 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, thank you, Chair. Chair Eshelbeck? 4 00:00:08.740 --> 00:00:16.589 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Here. Vice Chair Maripatla? Here. Commissioner Ganga? Yes. Commissioner Marcy? Here. Commissioner Wolf? Here. 5 00:00:16.850 --> 00:00:18.580 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Cherry, I have a question. 6 00:00:19.240 --> 00:00:22.339 Quinlan Conference Room: Wonderful, thank you. That takes us to our first, 7 00:00:22.345 --> 00:00:31.844 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): agenda item tonight, which is the approval of the meeting minutes, from January 29, and we have received the draft minutes with the package. 8 00:00:32.045 --> 00:00:35.675 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I'm asking for their, feed type, 9 00:00:36.615 --> 00:00:38.725 Quinlan Conference Room: Corrections, amendments. 10 00:00:38.965 --> 00:00:41.934 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): For a motion to approve those… 11 00:00:59.030 --> 00:01:01.590 Quinlan Conference Room: I make the motion to approve the minutes. 12 00:01:02.540 --> 00:01:05.980 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, we have a motion. Anybody seconds that motion? 13 00:01:06.380 --> 00:01:12.900 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Second, that's… Oh, should we have a second. 14 00:01:13.410 --> 00:01:18.340 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Can you, ask for a vote on the motion, please? 15 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:24.059 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Approval of the… January 29th, 2020. 16 00:01:24.510 --> 00:01:33.469 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Minutes, how do you vote, Chair Eshelbeck? Yes. Vice Chair Madipala? Yes. Commissioner Ganga? Yes. Senator Marcy? Yes. Commissioner Wolf? Yes. 17 00:01:33.610 --> 00:01:35.219 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Motion passes 5-0. 18 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:43.889 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): That takes us to, postponements. Are there any postponements from… 19 00:01:44.170 --> 00:01:51.350 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): previous meetings? Yeah. Okay, wonderful. I know we are not talking about written communications, but at least I wanted to acknowledge… 20 00:01:52.180 --> 00:01:55.139 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Written communications that we have recently… 21 00:01:55.410 --> 00:01:58.960 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): On the public website, as of this evening. 22 00:01:59.950 --> 00:02:12.660 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Next item on the agenda is oral communications. This part of the meeting is reserved for any topics or any persons wishing to speak on a topic that's not on the agenda tonight. 23 00:02:12.990 --> 00:02:28.320 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): We are limiting those to 3 minutes. First speaker, if there is anybody, waiting for speaking tonight on a topic not on the agenda, either online or in person here, please speak up now. 24 00:02:29.850 --> 00:02:31.560 Quinlan Conference Room: We have no speakers, Chair. 25 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:33.120 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Wonderful, thank you. 26 00:02:33.270 --> 00:02:39.319 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So no speakers tonight. I'm closing the public comment period for this meeting tonight, for this agenda tonight. 27 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:42.909 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): That takes us to our old business. 28 00:02:43.180 --> 00:02:55.470 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Which is item number 2 on the agenda, and we are discussing the Cupertino Active Transportation Plan, and I think Matt Cherido is going to walk us through, kind of, the update from, I guess, from the previous one. 29 00:02:57.770 --> 00:03:04.799 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yes, so I'm happy to go through the presentation, for commissioners again, but it will be the same as what was. 30 00:03:05.083 --> 00:03:20.682 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So maybe for the purposes of this meeting, we could just have a more focused discussion on the points that you want to bring up. We did go to the Planning Commission last week to present the same information to them, and received comments from the Planning Commission. 31 00:03:21.163 --> 00:03:35.623 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then we will be going to Council tomorrow night to, once again, present the same information. And the comments that we heard from Planning, as well as the comments that we'll gather here tonight, will be included in a desk item and presented to the City Council. 32 00:03:38.010 --> 00:03:53.269 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. Yeah, I think it makes sense to not repeat the presentation from last time. I think that makes perfect sense. So I'm just wondering, maybe just… let's just go through, the commissioners here quickly and see if there's any clarifying questions, or any comments on… 33 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:56.519 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): items that we are talking about here? 34 00:03:58.790 --> 00:04:01.919 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Dr. Ratt, I would like to request if, 35 00:04:02.650 --> 00:04:08.450 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): we can see the Planning Commission minutes, or the notes from… Planning Commission? 36 00:04:09.140 --> 00:04:13.910 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that way we can see what they have augmented as well. 37 00:04:14.450 --> 00:04:21.580 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): So the Planning Commission minutes are still in draft form. They haven't been finalized yet or published on the website. I… 38 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:27.590 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I have my written notes from what we heard, so it may not be verbatim, but you can get, kind of, the gist of what 39 00:04:27.690 --> 00:04:35.029 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): occurred, the Commission conducted a couple different straw polls. 40 00:04:35.180 --> 00:04:40.170 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): To provide comments to staff and to the council. 41 00:04:40.450 --> 00:04:45.470 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): The first of which came from… chair, 42 00:04:45.900 --> 00:04:58.239 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): to, have a straw poll, to consider the ways in which public safety response times, so EMS response times, can be incorporated into the project recommendations. 43 00:04:58.380 --> 00:05:06.360 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): There was one in favor, and then no opposed, or no abstentions, according to the notes here. 44 00:05:06.460 --> 00:05:19.379 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then one of the commissioners, Commissioner Winskog, conducted a non-binding straw poll to rescore the criteria to reduce the weight of the, safety scoring. 45 00:05:19.500 --> 00:05:27.570 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): for routes to school, as well as on cost effectiveness, and increase the weighting for the Vision Zero High Injury Network. 46 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:46.260 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And also, developed new metrics for documented KSIs, in hopes of addressing, what she says, the accident on Foothill Boulevard. So that was 5 in favor, 0 opposed, and 0 abstentions. 47 00:05:47.210 --> 00:05:52.529 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): The chair also conducted a non- binding draw poll supporting 48 00:05:52.670 --> 00:06:03.570 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): incorporating emergency response times into the programmatic recommendations. So there was 3 in favor of this, 2 opposed, and no abstentions. 49 00:06:04.260 --> 00:06:09.910 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Commissioner Feng conducted a non- binding straw poll to… 50 00:06:10.070 --> 00:06:20.000 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): separate parks from the access criteria, as well as proximity to schools, so having those be their own standalone. 51 00:06:20.060 --> 00:06:39.939 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): categories. There was four in favor, 1 opposed, and 0 abstentions. And then Commissioner Rao conducted a non- binding straw poll, stating that they discard the materials that were proposed and start over. There was one in favor, 2 opposed, and two abstentions. 52 00:06:43.610 --> 00:06:50.179 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Very helpful, thank you. Just one question. What's the difference between this straw poll and… so there's no motions? 53 00:06:50.180 --> 00:06:53.060 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Correct. I'm not really sure on the… 54 00:06:54.590 --> 00:06:57.530 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, the bureaucratic technicalities of that. 55 00:06:58.640 --> 00:07:00.600 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Non-binding. It's less binding. 56 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:12.100 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, it's not a… yeah, it's not a formal action for the Commission as a whole. It doesn't represent the voice of the Commission, but it just gives a sense of where commissioners stand on certain issues. 57 00:07:12.700 --> 00:07:17.410 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah. So is there a reason you wouldn't do a motion? Is it just. 58 00:07:18.260 --> 00:07:32.950 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): They felt that they wanted to provide their input individually, rather than collectively trying to establish a motion as a group. So this way, there was kind of some discrepancies with each of their comments, so they just wanted to make sure that those were voiced and on the record. 59 00:07:34.150 --> 00:07:34.930 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay. 60 00:07:36.010 --> 00:07:44.440 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): All right. Any other clarifying questions, comments from Commissioners? Yeah. I have a couple clarifying questions. One is. 61 00:07:45.050 --> 00:07:46.030 Quinlan Conference Room: I noticed… 62 00:07:46.700 --> 00:07:48.500 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, Alicia, I think the… 63 00:07:48.890 --> 00:07:54.270 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): The intersection, as far as the project prioritization goes, the intersection of Wolf and 280, 64 00:07:54.570 --> 00:07:59.229 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): was in the first prioritization, then I… I think it was removed. 65 00:07:59.235 --> 00:08:12.954 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so that was an oversight, so that's a project that was incorporated, but has been addressed, right? Like, that project has been built, so that project should never have been included as a recommendation. Or it is going to be. Yeah. 66 00:08:13.760 --> 00:08:22.000 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, then, these technology transportation corridors, are they meant to supplement 67 00:08:22.280 --> 00:08:30.369 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): traditional bike, pedestrian infrastructure? Is that the intent? Are they… is the intent for it to replace bike ped infrastructure? 68 00:08:30.655 --> 00:08:32.645 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's just another project type. 69 00:08:32.784 --> 00:08:46.375 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Council provided direction that technology be prioritized. So, these technology corridors, you can think of them as stand-alone projects that are ranked equally in the plan, alongside bike and pet projects. 70 00:08:48.375 --> 00:08:49.305 Quinlan Conference Room: Damns. 71 00:08:59.860 --> 00:09:00.760 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): As. 72 00:09:01.350 --> 00:09:03.619 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Miss, I think this will be a clarifying question, is… 73 00:09:03.920 --> 00:09:16.129 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): when we… when you score, are we looking at the VTA Measure B funding requirements? Are those taken into consideration, as far as… because do they have requirements 74 00:09:16.260 --> 00:09:22.409 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): you know, we see the county VGAF requirements for their… if they're going to fund a project with Virginia. 75 00:09:22.530 --> 00:09:27.089 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Are we looking at, certain requirements, and what are those requirements? 76 00:09:27.095 --> 00:09:45.444 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, the consultant looked at those, one of those being proximity to transit as part of, like, the scoring. So ALTA stated that, based on their review of what the Measure B requirements would be, that the projects that are undergoing this type of scoring, would be eligible. 77 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:51.429 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, and then… 78 00:09:51.540 --> 00:09:57.199 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Was the Banley and Stevens Creek intersection included this last round, and it wasn't in the first round on the project. 79 00:09:57.205 --> 00:10:00.444 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Correct. That was added based on the comments that we heard. 80 00:10:01.445 --> 00:10:05.634 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): But that is… with Tory and Town Center. Yeah. 81 00:10:09.970 --> 00:10:15.370 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And YAN's and I-280 are in the project list twice. What's the reason for that? 82 00:10:15.665 --> 00:10:21.095 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Northbound, or… Westbound on-ramp and eastbound on-ramp. 83 00:10:22.175 --> 00:10:23.424 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, thank you. 84 00:10:24.765 --> 00:10:25.595 Quinlan Conference Room: Great. 85 00:10:25.595 --> 00:10:28.444 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Anything else? Of course, back-end question, Len? 86 00:10:28.450 --> 00:10:30.949 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We look at the, parking. 87 00:10:30.950 --> 00:10:38.290 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): removal… Criteria, does it apply to the entire project, regardless of the length of the project? 88 00:10:38.850 --> 00:10:39.520 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Correct. 89 00:10:44.340 --> 00:10:45.410 Quinlan Conference Room: Alright. 90 00:10:47.570 --> 00:10:54.639 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Final opportunities, final paragraph questions or comments? If not, I'm asking if there's any public speakers on this topic. 91 00:10:55.200 --> 00:11:01.480 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yes, we have one speaker in person and one speaker remote. Our first speaker is. 92 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.069 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Evan's the juice one. Excellent. Evan? 93 00:11:04.075 --> 00:11:05.455 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Go ahead, please fill in it. 94 00:11:05.775 --> 00:11:12.075 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Hi, I'm Adam. So I went online and I downloaded the, draft prioritization. 95 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:13.620 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): results, and I… 96 00:11:13.740 --> 00:11:26.770 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): something seemed odd about the criteria for scoring to me. So, actually, just during this conversation, I noticed that the safety for number 22 for technology is scored above 30, which it looked like in the 97 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:38.760 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): On the website, 30 was the maximum, so not sure what's going on with us. But the other thing I noticed is I went to the Vision Zero dashboard on the website, and selected pedestrian Pickality. 98 00:11:39.390 --> 00:11:42.119 Quinlan Conference Room: And what I saw there, that… 99 00:11:42.550 --> 00:11:49.179 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): The intersections, or the places where there were fatalities, were ranked pretty low on the draft proposal. 100 00:11:49.490 --> 00:12:02.369 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, for example, Foothills and Rancho Ventura had a fatality. I couldn't find that on here. I found it in a section that was close, and it's ranked 116, so that's pretty low on the list. 101 00:12:02.810 --> 00:12:09.240 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): There's also… Bollinger and Miller Avenue that had some paid holidays. 102 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:12.810 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): Or at least one, and that's ranked 173. 103 00:12:13.070 --> 00:12:15.450 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): I… been… 104 00:12:15.670 --> 00:12:21.829 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): So both of those are pretty low, and there were… there are 5 fatalities listed on the Vision Zero dashboard. 105 00:12:22.100 --> 00:12:27.240 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): for best friends. So I didn't check all of them, but it looked like… 106 00:12:27.710 --> 00:12:34.210 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): Places where people have been killed, were ranked pretty low, even though that's self-selected as 107 00:12:34.450 --> 00:12:36.950 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): Critical places to maybe improve. 108 00:12:37.060 --> 00:12:41.120 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): Since. People have been in accidents, people have died. 109 00:12:41.310 --> 00:12:45.929 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, that's my… comment? I just… 110 00:12:46.140 --> 00:12:51.620 Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conference Room): It looked like maybe there's something that's not quite right with the scoring criteria that should be looked into. 111 00:12:52.190 --> 00:12:53.929 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thank you for forgiveness. 112 00:12:54.330 --> 00:12:57.160 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, our next speaker is Peggy Burman. 113 00:12:59.030 --> 00:13:00.149 Quinlan Conference Room: Welcome, Peggy. 114 00:13:00.610 --> 00:13:04.790 Peggy Griffin: Good evening, bike ped… 115 00:13:04.930 --> 00:13:11.060 Peggy Griffin: Commission, and staff, I… I agree with the previous speaker. The… 116 00:13:11.300 --> 00:13:16.650 Peggy Griffin: matrix, the scoring matrix, I think needs to be reassessed, and… 117 00:13:16.820 --> 00:13:27.180 Peggy Griffin: Before you go any further, the increase… it needs to have an increased emphasis on areas where injuries and deaths and collisions occurred. 118 00:13:27.290 --> 00:13:37.429 Peggy Griffin: It seems to be… Higher priority for Safe Routes to school, anything along that gets max points, and 119 00:13:37.550 --> 00:13:43.650 Peggy Griffin: It doesn't matter whether it's one section or the entire section, it gets the points. 120 00:13:43.810 --> 00:13:49.310 Peggy Griffin: And safe routes to school means that's the safest route to school. 121 00:13:49.500 --> 00:13:57.600 Peggy Griffin: So, it… it seems contradictory. I think we should focus on where people actually have had 122 00:13:57.900 --> 00:14:06.309 Peggy Griffin: deaths and injuries and collisions. Also, I think it needs to emphasize technology more. 123 00:14:06.700 --> 00:14:11.100 Peggy Griffin: Because we can't afford to pay for more deputies. 124 00:14:11.210 --> 00:14:19.739 Peggy Griffin: And there are a lot of technology tools that we could use as a city that would save us money and reduce 125 00:14:20.190 --> 00:14:26.810 Peggy Griffin: fatalities at critical intersections. And I'm referring to red light. 126 00:14:27.460 --> 00:14:33.769 Peggy Griffin: The, the number one intersection is De Anza Boulevard and Homestead. 127 00:14:33.970 --> 00:14:43.940 Peggy Griffin: And, it's… In the matrix, it's ranked number 66, but it's the number one 128 00:14:44.140 --> 00:14:49.430 Peggy Griffin: intersection with problems in the Vision Zero plan. 129 00:14:49.680 --> 00:14:52.850 Peggy Griffin: So, also. 130 00:14:53.080 --> 00:15:03.769 Peggy Griffin: Let's see. The loss of parking. There's no mention, and the public was not told that if they pick these, or say they like a plan, that 131 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:07.750 Peggy Griffin: It potentially could take all the parking on a street. 132 00:15:08.250 --> 00:15:09.250 Quinlan Conference Room: And… 133 00:15:09.370 --> 00:15:15.110 Peggy Griffin: The report says that There could be a 30… that this… 134 00:15:15.260 --> 00:15:21.390 Peggy Griffin: the council would be able to decide after 30% design. Well, in the past. 135 00:15:21.610 --> 00:15:28.300 Peggy Griffin: After a design has already started, there's no going back. It's basically a done deal. 136 00:15:28.820 --> 00:15:34.120 Peggy Griffin: And there are a lot of these identified projects that 137 00:15:35.030 --> 00:15:40.130 Peggy Griffin: Anybody, a 2-year-old, could figure out that the whole street would lose its parking. 138 00:15:40.620 --> 00:15:43.840 Peggy Griffin: So, and I also think that, 139 00:15:44.510 --> 00:15:51.269 Peggy Griffin: separated bike lanes. You need to really restrict them to, 140 00:15:51.790 --> 00:16:01.340 Peggy Griffin: not impact the two-lane streets as much, the big, multi- lane, fast-going areas, it makes sense. Thank you. 141 00:16:04.010 --> 00:16:05.050 Quinlan Conference Room: Thank you, Peggy. 142 00:16:06.140 --> 00:16:07.290 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): anymore. 143 00:16:07.910 --> 00:16:11.119 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Public speakers? Yeah, no remaining public speakers. 144 00:16:11.125 --> 00:16:12.545 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thank you. 145 00:16:13.075 --> 00:16:19.684 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm opening up the… this topic for Commission discussion amongst, Commission. 146 00:16:20.125 --> 00:16:21.125 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, yeah. 147 00:16:21.245 --> 00:16:26.225 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I wanted to… Maybe start saying, I think it… 148 00:16:26.975 --> 00:16:30.054 Quinlan Conference Room: It is important that we look at this plan as a… 149 00:16:30.105 --> 00:16:33.445 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): As a guidepost for… for council? 150 00:16:34.025 --> 00:16:35.354 Quinlan Conference Room: And I think we should… 151 00:16:36.485 --> 00:16:39.225 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Primarily focused on talking about 152 00:16:39.835 --> 00:16:45.514 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): the bigger topics that we need to fix and adjust on the plan. I think it would be… 153 00:16:45.955 --> 00:16:54.274 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): probably going to be spending hours and hours here if we go into individual projects and drill down to individual scoring? Why is this worth that way? I think that probably didn't 154 00:16:54.395 --> 00:16:56.065 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Perfect. Effective. 155 00:16:56.195 --> 00:17:08.144 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): But I think we should be very well, like, some of the feedback we just heard, some of the feedback on the written communications, really tells us that there's some areas that we need to tweak, that we need to adjust, scoring being one of them. 156 00:17:08.145 --> 00:17:16.604 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I just wanted to put this out front for everybody. Hopefully everybody is in awe, and then opening up for the session. 157 00:17:20.365 --> 00:17:23.375 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): kind of going this order this time. I'll stop. 158 00:17:23.380 --> 00:17:30.329 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, I got a bunch of feedback regarding various areas, so I'm going to start with the technology-based. 159 00:17:30.335 --> 00:17:39.324 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): based counts, in the memorandum, there is a comment about making sure that, you know, we incorporate technology 160 00:17:39.395 --> 00:17:57.845 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): into the project to make sure that, you know, to increase the usage of biking and walking in Cupertino, as opposed to prior to the construction being made, which makes sense. What I wanted to make sure we incorporate is to make sure that we just don't do that based on a single project. 161 00:17:57.925 --> 00:17:59.015 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because… 162 00:17:59.885 --> 00:18:10.404 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): If we have, like, for example, two islands, and a sea in the middle, you put one pillar on the one side, and another pillar on the other side, and no table for the bridge. 163 00:18:10.685 --> 00:18:16.275 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): you don't have a network, right? You have two construction sites, and nobody can go from one island to the other. It's not a network. 164 00:18:16.365 --> 00:18:33.655 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): And so the problem that I can see here is that if we take a project-based approach to measuring the utilization, is that we will run into issues, and just focusing on the narrow things, if you look at the projects that are successful, like McLennan, for example, wrote. 165 00:18:33.765 --> 00:18:39.814 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): They're successful because it's a network. It goes from the Enza College to the Enza Boulevard, and to… 166 00:18:40.035 --> 00:18:57.315 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): The Ragnarok Creek Trail goes from the Creekside Park to Wilson Park to the library in City Hall, right? So it's a nice network because it connects things, and I think that if we start measuring the impact of a project without taking into account the 167 00:18:57.665 --> 00:19:00.485 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Broader aspects of the network. 168 00:19:00.575 --> 00:19:02.445 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think we… that's… 169 00:19:02.525 --> 00:19:14.465 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, if we start, for example, if it's the first project of completing a network, he'll be like, oh, but this project is not successful, but the other pieces of the network have to come together so that we actually see some improvements. 170 00:19:14.465 --> 00:19:27.714 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I just wanted to make sure that when we measure the success through technology of a project, and I want to do that, I want to see how successful we are with our projects, that we don't have a too narrow an approach to measuring 171 00:19:28.385 --> 00:19:32.485 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): kind of the KPIs that we set up, set ourselves. 172 00:19:32.725 --> 00:19:40.954 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that, that's long. The other thing I wanted to comment on the parking and the, 173 00:19:41.065 --> 00:19:42.855 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Lane removals. 174 00:19:44.825 --> 00:19:46.655 Quinlan Conference Room: As I mentioned in the question. 175 00:19:46.995 --> 00:19:54.384 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): the criteria regarding removal of parking does not take into account the length of the project, so if it… 176 00:19:54.635 --> 00:19:59.215 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): project has an impact on two miles, for example, and it removes 177 00:19:59.395 --> 00:20:06.134 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): two fucking spaces over these two miles, then that's gonna be a zero, right? But if we have a very small project. 178 00:20:06.295 --> 00:20:08.005 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Other impacts our weakness. 179 00:20:08.115 --> 00:20:14.875 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): crossing, or very little of the street, then you would have the full joints, because you don't need parking. So I… 180 00:20:15.275 --> 00:20:16.575 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's kind of… 181 00:20:17.175 --> 00:20:18.065 Quinlan Conference Room: I see. 182 00:20:18.095 --> 00:20:25.095 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): And natural to feel, okay, if we have this huge project that can be transformative, or long distance. 183 00:20:25.275 --> 00:20:43.485 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): and we remove just two parking slots, it removes the entire scoping criteria. So maybe one thing to do is to adjust that by having the number of parking slots removed divided by the length of the project, something to think about. What also is very troubling is the nature of parking 184 00:20:43.615 --> 00:20:59.474 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): at a certain project. I took, for example, Mariani Avenue to Bentley Drive, which is, by the way, is marked as a bike lane. Did not mention whether it was protected bike lane anymore, or just a buffer bike lane, just a bike lane. So, but… 185 00:20:59.475 --> 00:21:12.165 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Here's the funny thing, when you look around, it's not residential folds, it's just Apple. And it's surrounded, literally surrounded by Apple parking. And if we tell Apple, look guys, we're gonna remove parking, they'll be like. 186 00:21:13.585 --> 00:21:23.004 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): sure, most likely, go ahead, we don't care. If it's in a residential area where people leave, I think that's when the… when people would be like, well, I'd rather have my parking. 187 00:21:23.205 --> 00:21:25.824 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Which is my fucking… 188 00:21:26.215 --> 00:21:37.594 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): the city's parking. But, my point is that the nature of the surrounding buildings also makes a big, big difference between, you know, the position you might see in a project, right? So… 189 00:21:37.705 --> 00:21:42.294 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, and then some of the… 190 00:21:42.945 --> 00:21:47.585 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): things were a little bit surprising for me when I looked at some of the projects. One of them is, 191 00:21:47.925 --> 00:21:50.864 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): a homestead to Big Man, where I didn't understand 192 00:21:51.955 --> 00:22:11.355 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): why there was no parking at all, and yet it didn't get the full points already. So some of the things I did not understand. I just don't want to go into every individual project, as the chair mentioned. So yeah, something to think about is that the nature of the project, how long is the actual project impacting? Like, how much impact has it 193 00:22:11.355 --> 00:22:25.574 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): And also, you know, just in terms of length, but also who is in the surroundings. And in my opinion, I think it's something that we can do, and we should do on a project-by-project base. If you do this on an aggregated level for all the projects, it's very hard to put that 194 00:22:25.595 --> 00:22:27.294 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Into this kind of thing. 195 00:22:27.335 --> 00:22:30.385 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): The previous speaker mentioned, oh, we should not 196 00:22:30.545 --> 00:22:35.794 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): You know, we should add a more, like, emphasis on the parking, but the problem is that 197 00:22:35.805 --> 00:22:52.695 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): And she mentioned after 30% of the design were done, and that is not true, because for the Lawson Middle School project, there were two options that were offered to the Bike Fed Commission and to Council. One of them was to remove parking, and the other one was to keep parking. And these options were to 198 00:22:52.995 --> 00:22:56.554 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): put together, put in front of the Commission and of 199 00:22:56.765 --> 00:23:05.334 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): of the Council, and it was not a decision of, oh, 30%, that's a darn deal. No, it was not, and this project proves it. 200 00:23:05.475 --> 00:23:07.555 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): So… 201 00:23:07.635 --> 00:23:14.065 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): maybe one thing to do is, I would also very much agree, however, with the previous speaker on the phone, as well as 202 00:23:14.085 --> 00:23:32.985 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): with the person present here, to say that we have a big discrepancy between the high engineering network and the prioritization of the, of the projects. And that's very troubling, because the Vision Zero plan is literally… the ATP was supposed to be the, kind of, the, how we implement things. 203 00:23:33.145 --> 00:23:45.395 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): in order to make this Vision Zero a reality, and it's completely disconnected right now. So it's very troubling, and I think we need to work on that. So maybe one idea that I would like to share 204 00:23:45.705 --> 00:24:02.194 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): is, maybe sharing the points between the separate-to-school points, and sharing them with the high enduring network, meaning that if you are on the high engineering network, defined as in the Vision Zero plan, you would get more points, and if not, you would be… 205 00:24:02.335 --> 00:24:20.175 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): you wouldn't get them. Or even, as I said, parking is not a relevant criteria, so it's a criteria that's relevant on a project-by-project base, and we could move this criteria and put it on the high engineer, and instead have the high engineering network criteria being set here. 206 00:24:22.410 --> 00:24:25.080 Quinlan Conference Room: Or nothing. 207 00:24:27.360 --> 00:24:30.599 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): In terms of the neighborhood, bike graphs. 208 00:24:30.990 --> 00:24:35.939 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I took the freedom, because you mentioned on the document. 209 00:24:35.940 --> 00:24:52.710 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): that the design information, like, the… what guides your thinking as to which projects to implement or not is the information built in 94, design information built in 94, competes for its contextual design. And you say it's adaptable, but that's essentially what you're taking, or… 210 00:24:52.710 --> 00:24:59.100 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): prompt. So, I looked at the CAS 3 neighborhood backlogs, the definition, and when they are good fits. 211 00:24:59.110 --> 00:25:13.709 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): And the… what this document says, it says, for rural main streets, suburban area, and urban area place types, which I think is valid for Cupertino, the main purpose of shared lane flat 3 bike routes is to bridge a short gap 212 00:25:13.710 --> 00:25:21.709 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): between Class 1, Class 2, or Class 4 bikeways for the sake of network connectivity. Again, this idea of network is important, which I appreciate. 213 00:25:22.460 --> 00:25:30.300 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): The problem that I have is that the vast majority of the projects that were submitted are not connected to any of those. 214 00:25:30.730 --> 00:25:40.689 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay? So if I look at, for example, the Kenfu to Charlie Man project, it stops in the middle of nowhere. It's like a bike route, and then, poof, the street continues, but… 215 00:25:40.840 --> 00:25:53.870 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): you know, there is nothing… it doesn't connect anything to anything, it's just one street, and then to Jollyman Park. But it doesn't say… it doesn't connect plus 1, plus 2, or plus 4 bikeways, as opposed to what the document says it should. 216 00:25:55.690 --> 00:26:15.100 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): The thing also with the community engagement, I think, was great. I had a lot of outreach and stuff, but, on the ATP project website, there's, like, these backgrounds have, like, one or two lights, and I don't think I've ever seen in… and I've attended quite a few of the things that you organize, and I don't think I've ever heard 217 00:26:16.840 --> 00:26:21.170 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): You know, participants saying that they absolutely wanted a… 218 00:26:21.340 --> 00:26:26.610 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): A bike… a route, neighborhood, bike route as a project. 219 00:26:26.990 --> 00:26:27.910 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): So… 220 00:26:28.810 --> 00:26:31.160 Quinlan Conference Room: Again, if you look at the projects here. 221 00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:37.060 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's the purple, and there is a lot of purple, and if you look at the connectivity, it doesn't always affect 222 00:26:37.330 --> 00:26:38.250 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): 2… 223 00:26:38.390 --> 00:26:50.439 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): This, so… my point here is that we have 22, 22 of the 38, if I'm correct, 22 of the 38 cycling projects are actually these neighborhood… neighborhood routes. 224 00:26:50.650 --> 00:27:01.139 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): we're not really solving a problem as per the definition of what the, you know, Class 3 backpropout should be, and if the community is not really screaming for it, then… 225 00:27:01.290 --> 00:27:02.810 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): My question would be. 226 00:27:03.450 --> 00:27:04.970 Quinlan Conference Room: What is it for, then? 227 00:27:04.970 --> 00:27:08.050 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because… If we have, like. 228 00:27:08.610 --> 00:27:13.089 Quinlan Conference Room: I'm trying to put myself in… The shoes of the city. 229 00:27:13.100 --> 00:27:18.770 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): We have things that are, like, again, not fixing a problem, Nuts. 230 00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:35.510 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): something that the community asked for, and it's going to be expensive, right? We're going to have the permitting associated with this project, where the bidding process, we have the contracts, it costs also staff time. My opinion would be to reduce the number of projects 231 00:27:35.510 --> 00:27:47.519 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that we have a little bit more clarity. We don't need to have 200 projects. Maybe these neighborhood routes should be reduced so that we focus on the things that matter, which are actually, like, proving the safety 232 00:27:47.530 --> 00:27:50.999 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Of the pedestrians and, and cyclists in the sea. 233 00:27:51.190 --> 00:27:56.340 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's one thing to think about. We really want to move 234 00:27:56.820 --> 00:28:04.419 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): people onto bikes by making them avoid big oteries and use neighborhood routes. I'd rather 235 00:28:04.600 --> 00:28:17.369 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do you guys go to Apple and ask them to put some weight… waiting criteria in the way they route people when they say, I'm on a bike, then ask Apple to reroute them for the neighborhood. 236 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:23.300 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): routes, maybe? But that would be much more effective than having just science around. 237 00:28:24.130 --> 00:28:29.900 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yes. So, just, to, 238 00:28:30.270 --> 00:28:48.179 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): make it brief, the thing that I suggest are, either to remove the complete, the parking, or having at least shared cell-to-school, points with the high injury network, and that would be very important, and simply, also cut the number of projects for the one that we… 239 00:28:48.860 --> 00:28:49.920 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Great, thank you. 240 00:28:50.340 --> 00:28:51.250 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Local. 241 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:53.400 Quinlan Conference Room: Yeah, so. 242 00:28:54.580 --> 00:28:59.189 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, I would like to provide some feedback. I think this is along the lines of what 243 00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:03.449 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I gave it back in the last meeting as well. One is… 244 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:14.309 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): you will never be able to get it right. Like, you have 200 projects. If you move a criteria one way or the other, some other projects will pop up, and you are just going to do your vacuum move, right? It's not… 245 00:29:14.570 --> 00:29:24.309 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): going to help solve the problem. There's a good guideline for what projects should be, you know, how the projects should be prioritized and whatnot, but as, 246 00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:31.640 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): ATP, I think cities should have a vision and prioritize programs or corridors. 247 00:29:32.080 --> 00:29:38.140 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Or neighborhoods where you wanted to take up the safety, because it's like a 10-year… Plan, and then maybe… 248 00:29:38.670 --> 00:29:41.040 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Plus, 5 years would be more important. 249 00:29:41.560 --> 00:29:50.230 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So where you pick up zones, like, you know, in the city, you can pick up saying that the priority safety corridor, right, which is identified in Division Zero. 250 00:29:50.540 --> 00:30:04.700 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): take that, and then say that, like, out of that, we are going to focus on the city center area, which covers the major artery, like Steven Street, Boulevard, and… and Dianza, and then the neighborhood city center, which has the commercial 251 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:17.809 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): access, it's a good economic zone. So, pick that zone, and then say, this is the area where we are going to improve the pedestrian safety, we are going to improve the intersection safety, and we are going to improve bicycle safety, and that 252 00:30:18.100 --> 00:30:21.910 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): That would be the focus, and the city council part of it. 253 00:30:22.030 --> 00:30:24.100 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Elected officials weigh in on that. 254 00:30:24.550 --> 00:30:34.469 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Similarly, you can pick up a different one, like a school zone, right? That could be another zone, and then we can pick up an area which is, like, a tri-school area, or, like, the Cupertino High School. 255 00:30:34.700 --> 00:30:36.360 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): The area. 256 00:30:37.220 --> 00:30:39.479 Quinlan Conference Room: Right, so that's another way of… 257 00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:44.790 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Picking up, and then making sure that projects around that, access to those pools. 258 00:30:45.840 --> 00:30:47.190 Quinlan Conference Room: Fix the issues. 259 00:30:47.410 --> 00:30:53.740 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then, you know, at the same time, you're addressing Vision Zero, so I kind of identifies a similar model, but then… 260 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.140 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Be clearly… 261 00:30:55.380 --> 00:31:11.679 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): align with Vision Zero, but at the same time, provide what focus area? City can never be able to go and deploy their resources on every… every one of these projects. So, pick these zones, and then start to work on these zones, and opportunistically pick up projects from these lists 262 00:31:11.730 --> 00:31:16.289 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): what to implement when you are able to address the safety. That's one thing. 263 00:31:16.410 --> 00:31:21.310 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And also, when the zones are picked up and the budget is limited, then we'll have 264 00:31:21.570 --> 00:31:27.880 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): opportunities to do pig belt programs to improve the Safety on these zones much… 265 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:32.690 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Quicker than waiting for 5 years before you can get these projects. 266 00:31:32.820 --> 00:31:33.730 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Girl. 267 00:31:34.070 --> 00:31:35.950 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): to make any sense, right? So that's… 268 00:31:36.030 --> 00:31:43.059 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): that's another thing that we should… we should look at. This is… this is… this is my… I think this is the feedback I gave last time. Some of the cities have done this. 269 00:31:43.120 --> 00:31:57.899 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): They prioritize corridors, or they prioritize zones, they prioritize programs, so that's… that's a clear idea. I mean, you pick up, like, 3 or 5 areas where the city will be focusing projects for the next 5 years, next 10 years, like this. 270 00:31:58.420 --> 00:32:00.880 Quinlan Conference Room: So beyond 5 years, you could call that as a long-term. 271 00:32:01.550 --> 00:32:05.760 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Focus on the other, other areas, like 5 years, you can say 5-year focus. 272 00:32:05.930 --> 00:32:12.249 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): That gives a clear idea on what projects to pick up for the City Council in future. 273 00:32:12.910 --> 00:32:16.570 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's one thing. The second one is on the guidelines. 274 00:32:16.730 --> 00:32:23.300 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think, you have, I think Dev, someone has provided the guidelines on, you know, where you have to use the class. 275 00:32:23.840 --> 00:32:25.930 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): 2, Class 3, Class 4. 276 00:32:26.080 --> 00:32:30.070 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Pike lanes, but then what we do is, like, we pick up projects and then go on 277 00:32:30.470 --> 00:32:48.059 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): try to fit projects, like, for example, you say that you go into a residential neighborhood and say you want to do a Class 4 biplane, right? Which is the one with concrete barriers. I think we already know, we have heard feedback from the community on what happened when you tried to do it in an area which is not suitable for that. 278 00:32:48.120 --> 00:32:51.589 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And ASTHO and some of these national 279 00:32:51.650 --> 00:33:07.690 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): safety guidelines clearly say which… where we wanted to apply, different projects, and in some cases, cities pick up those guidelines and then customize it for what's applicable for our city, what makes sense for us. It's a smaller city. 280 00:33:07.790 --> 00:33:15.710 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We have, you know, pass-through traffic going through RCT and things like that. So, accordingly, you wanted to 281 00:33:16.150 --> 00:33:32.589 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): City should give a guideline as part of the transportation plan. It could be an appendix, or it could be in one of these chapters, that clearly identifies, this is the guideline for our city, and this is how we're going to follow. So that way, you're not going to try to force-fit certain projects that are not suitable for certain areas. 282 00:33:33.290 --> 00:33:38.910 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, they, they, you know, example, like, for Class 4, or even Class 2, Class 3, there's, like. 283 00:33:39.500 --> 00:33:41.550 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Clear guidelines provided. 284 00:33:41.660 --> 00:33:43.100 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): With metrics. 285 00:33:43.520 --> 00:33:49.099 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I think we should be following… following that in order to… in order to go… go… go with these projects. 286 00:33:50.250 --> 00:33:58.480 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): The third one I said is the Vision Zero alignment. I think that should be a separate, you know, chapter in order to show how you are aligning with Vision Zero, because 287 00:33:58.980 --> 00:34:09.070 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We wanted to really implement what has been identified in Vision Zero, and these are the high injury corridors, and there are also programs and, you know, toolkits that have been provided, and so we should… 288 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:20.589 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): you know, it's not about prioritizing power. We spend a lot of time on prioritizing scoring and things like that, but instead, you need to see how you're aligning with Vision Zero, and how ATP is helping 289 00:34:21.110 --> 00:34:27.349 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): you know, getting to the Vision Zero in the next 10 years. So that's basically what we should be doing, and 290 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:34.009 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think there's enough information there in the toolkit that the staff knows about it, so we should really have a chapter that aligns 291 00:34:34.350 --> 00:34:38.280 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): ATP with what's shown in the efficiency. 292 00:34:38.560 --> 00:34:40.120 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think these are the three… 293 00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:43.980 Quinlan Conference Room: key items that I wanted to point out. 294 00:34:43.980 --> 00:34:46.280 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): For us. Thank you, London. Thank you. 295 00:34:47.429 --> 00:34:48.059 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Sweet. 296 00:34:48.809 --> 00:34:51.759 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): This is my trunk. Traffic's coming this way, so… 297 00:34:51.764 --> 00:34:56.424 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, that's okay. Yeah, yeah. Thank you, Chair. 298 00:34:56.600 --> 00:34:59.510 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, I have a couple of comments. So, one… 299 00:34:59.900 --> 00:35:13.319 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): the scoring mechanism, right? So, did we use some standard rubric in terms of, you know, what's used everywhere, or did we come up with something that's, you know, suited for Cupertino? 300 00:35:13.325 --> 00:35:19.185 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): something that's suited for Cupertino by adding the balance criteria in there that's consistent with the goals. 301 00:35:19.505 --> 00:35:31.395 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): I believe Mountains View had something fairly similar, but the rest of the scoring criteria pretty much resembles what the 2016, criteria were. 302 00:35:32.130 --> 00:35:45.379 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I'm just trying to see, you know, how two speakers spoke about, you know, the fatalities, junctions were, you know, ranked low, so… so what was the scoring mechanism used that will help the case, right? 303 00:35:45.490 --> 00:35:55.269 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): or a thought, you know, those things, you know, would have bubbled up, right? So… so that's, you know, general observation, right? So second, no matter what criteria we use, you know. 304 00:35:55.720 --> 00:36:07.440 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): somebody's not going to like, you know, what came out of the outcome of that, right? So… so, because projects fall where they fall because of the scoring criteria that we use. So… 305 00:36:07.710 --> 00:36:15.760 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): On… in terms of, you know, picking and choosing, I think, you know, I've been consistent with my comments, you know, even in the past. 306 00:36:15.900 --> 00:36:22.970 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I believe, you know, there are a lot of, you know, small, small improvements we can make that gets, you know, the best bang for the buck, right? 307 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:37.050 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I'll take, you know, McLaren Road, because, you know, I live on the street that every day, because I live on that street, right? So, you know, Commissioner Marcy said, you know, it's a highly successful project. I… I kind of, you know, don't necessarily agree with that, because, you know. 308 00:36:37.270 --> 00:36:42.410 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I see all the problems every day, because I live there, right? So… and… 309 00:36:43.390 --> 00:36:45.600 Quinlan Conference Room: People that live on that street complain. 310 00:36:45.600 --> 00:37:04.460 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right? And people that use that street complaint, they don't live there, but, you know, they use it, right? So… and I see even, you know, last weekend when I was biking, you know, I see two bikers, you know, in front of me, one of them in the bike lane and one of them in the car lane. They're riding in paddle, right? And it just, you know, it just creates a type of mess, right? So… so I wouldn't necessarily 311 00:37:04.560 --> 00:37:23.799 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): call that a successful project, but there are a lot of small, small improvements that's done, you know, that's paying off big. We ask people that live on that street, they really, you know, thank you, David, for particularly, you know, for taking steps, you know, to do those smaller improvements, okay? So, thank you for that, right? So, I believe, you know, there are a lot of things that we can do 312 00:37:24.130 --> 00:37:43.469 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): with, you know, limited budget to improve the safety in the city without, you know, embarking on, you know, massive, you know, let's create a concrete barrier type of a project. That's just, you know, my high-level observation and feedback, right? So, I think, you know, concrete barriers have a place, but I don't think, you know, it's… 313 00:37:43.470 --> 00:37:55.450 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Where, you know, streets are narrow, and, you know, and we create a more problem, you know, by dividing it further. And so I live on that table. So that's… that's that. 314 00:37:56.190 --> 00:38:00.420 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think, you know, the Tony Avenue project, I think, you know, that deserves, because, you know. 315 00:38:00.450 --> 00:38:12.570 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Kubernet library is, you know, one of the highest used libraries, right? And there's a lot of people that come and go, and we need to improve the safety there, especially, you know, kids, right? So when it comes to kids, you know, we thought of, you know. 316 00:38:12.570 --> 00:38:21.369 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): to work out, because it's, it skits availability. So… so I'm happy to see, you know, that… that project, you know, on the list. 317 00:38:21.720 --> 00:38:26.240 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so I think that's… Thank you, Mary, thank you. 318 00:38:26.520 --> 00:38:28.450 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Cool. Thank you, Tom. 319 00:38:28.780 --> 00:38:34.730 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, I, I started… well… 320 00:38:35.460 --> 00:38:46.090 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): The action item says to review and provide feedback on prioritized project lists for the active transportation plan, so that's what I focused on. 321 00:38:46.220 --> 00:38:55.590 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, though I'm not gonna drill down to… but I… I want to… I did look at the specific scoring and how that, 322 00:38:56.110 --> 00:39:00.740 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I ask myself, does this make sense? And the… what I did is I… 323 00:39:00.990 --> 00:39:08.070 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I just copied it over, pasted everything into an Excel spreadsheet, started sorting it via various categories, and… 324 00:39:08.240 --> 00:39:16.950 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then I decide, well, I'm going to focus on, you know, intersections, the pedestrian safety, because that's something that I think is important. I think this… 325 00:39:17.530 --> 00:39:28.200 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): this commission has expressed, you know, sort of a… uniformly that they're interested in increasing pedestrian safety, so that's where I went to… I went… 326 00:39:28.350 --> 00:39:40.949 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I sorted everything, and I looked… compared it to what was in Vision Zero. So, Vision Zero's got, two tables for the high injury, corridors, which, like, I don't know, 15, and then there's 327 00:39:41.050 --> 00:39:44.340 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): the high end of the intersection, so I focused on the high end. 328 00:39:45.670 --> 00:39:51.749 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And… what I came up with was, it was a little sh… 329 00:39:52.990 --> 00:39:54.640 Quinlan Conference Room: Little shocked. 330 00:39:54.640 --> 00:39:58.940 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because I don't… I think I'd have to come out and say something's wrong with the scoring. 331 00:39:59.420 --> 00:40:04.309 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because the way we're storing these projects, our scoring criteria results in 332 00:40:04.600 --> 00:40:11.710 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): very strange outcome in the tables, and and I'll just go down the list, So… the… 333 00:40:11.900 --> 00:40:24.600 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): The intersection that's near and dear to my… to me is Stevens Creek and De Anza. I've walked in many times, crossed it many times. It's pretty dangerous, but it's… it's ATP rank of 56. 334 00:40:25.100 --> 00:40:38.399 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, there are… and then there's a little intersection behind my house on a neighborhood network, Terry and Rodriguez, that is about… scores actually better than that, and there's no traffic, it's nothing. 335 00:40:38.580 --> 00:40:49.370 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And that whole neighborhood network is nothing. I ride it all the time. It doesn't even… it's ranked number 8, by the way. It's some little neighborhood ranked. So I think, this is… there's something wrong here. 336 00:40:49.550 --> 00:40:52.819 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And you go down the list, you've got DeAnz and Homestead. 337 00:40:53.380 --> 00:41:05.809 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Number one, on the, high-end network, intersection network, 65. So some of them work out. Cuppuccino Road and Stevens Creek Boulevard, high… the rank for the, 338 00:41:06.140 --> 00:41:11.220 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): In Vision Zero, it's 3, and it's 12, and for ATP. 339 00:41:11.430 --> 00:41:12.820 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): But… 340 00:41:13.060 --> 00:41:27.179 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): There's many that just don't make any sense whatsoever, and then you look at what's not included that's in the original Vision Zero plan. A lot of the top 20 intersections, 9 of them are not included at all, not even in the program. 341 00:41:27.390 --> 00:41:33.670 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And out of the top, I went… there's 48, but I think I got 22 that were not even in the program. 342 00:41:33.810 --> 00:41:41.190 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): So you start looking at this and thinking, there is something drastically wrong here. It just makes no sense. And 343 00:41:41.530 --> 00:41:50.269 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I… I could never go along with this type of discovery. I… I had some ideas, I started looking at the scoring. 344 00:41:50.560 --> 00:42:01.639 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I went in and tried to figure out why are the scores so bad for some of these very important intersections. They're really, truly dangerous, you know? 345 00:42:02.080 --> 00:42:10.490 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, we… the thing that I came up with… is that I think the… 346 00:42:11.820 --> 00:42:12.225 Quinlan Conference Room: Sh… 347 00:42:12.990 --> 00:42:15.090 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Could find my talking. 348 00:42:20.510 --> 00:42:22.820 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think the scoring for the… 349 00:42:25.770 --> 00:42:42.379 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): it doesn't place enough weight on the safety of intersections, and you may be able to say the same thing about the corridors, but I didn't look that close. For the… for… if it's on the Vision Zero plan, it doesn't place enough weight on safety. I think that's one thing. 350 00:42:42.470 --> 00:42:46.779 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I would recommend pushing that, say, that number from 20 to 30, possibly. 351 00:42:47.240 --> 00:43:01.850 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): The other thing is cost- effectiveness can skew things, because since I've been on the commission, what happens a lot of times is you've got these big programs, there's 2 or 3 million or four million dollars, and then you find out that 352 00:43:02.010 --> 00:43:08.370 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): You know, 80% can be funded by outside money, so that should go into… that should be considered. 353 00:43:08.590 --> 00:43:26.800 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because just having… I would recommend possibly taking it out. This is something that Council should decide. This project's too expensive, we're going to have to go on to something else. But it shouldn't be in the scoring criteria, because the score means nothing as far as safety goes. How can cost influence safety? 354 00:43:26.970 --> 00:43:28.609 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't think it should. 355 00:43:28.950 --> 00:43:39.330 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And even when it comes down to balance, you could say that, how does parking influence? You have to look at the program. Maybe the council doesn't want to remove parking, but don't put it in the scoring. 356 00:43:39.540 --> 00:43:42.269 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): So you have safety, balance. 357 00:43:42.760 --> 00:44:02.040 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, costs that I think skew this whole thing so you get the weirdest results. Some work out, but a lot of them don't. And it's just… if this is how we're going to work, we've got some problems with this document. I just can't, imagine going forward with it. I do want to say that 358 00:44:02.150 --> 00:44:07.440 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I heard something about Foothill Boulevard, and I did look at that, because there was a serious injury there, and… 359 00:44:07.940 --> 00:44:26.120 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): That should be included, and… because right now, when you look at the sidewalk segments that are placed into there, they're, like, 126, 1488, 166, 184. So those segments, they're very poorly ranked, considering you had somebody die, I think one or two… 360 00:44:26.230 --> 00:44:31.210 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): One push, I can't remember how many died. A little girl and three syringes. 361 00:44:32.390 --> 00:44:35.629 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And the other thing is, as I look at, even when you… 362 00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:47.299 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): go through the documents, and the scoring of the intersections, I don't believe, address Phase 2 public concerns regarding safety at intersections, particularly at commute hours, which is what they express. 363 00:44:47.600 --> 00:44:54.580 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): The intersections most frequently mentioned are those along Stevens Creek Boulevard, Bollinger, Prospect, Stelling, De Anza, and Blaney. 364 00:44:54.720 --> 00:44:57.200 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I think, 365 00:44:57.790 --> 00:45:09.720 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): There's a lot of intersections along those corridors that are not addressed or poorly ranked. And you have to remember that if we're gonna, you know, this document's gonna be in place for 10 years. That place is it probably 2036. 366 00:45:10.040 --> 00:45:14.600 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): If I look at those projects, and we go by the prioritization. 367 00:45:14.710 --> 00:45:22.059 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): you're never going to get the Vision Zero, and I always keep in mind that 72% of all the KSIs are in just 7 corridors. 368 00:45:23.160 --> 00:45:29.630 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): So… My… my recommendation would be we need to re… look at. 369 00:45:33.070 --> 00:45:36.930 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Reducing that, you know, if you're safe out to school, some of these 370 00:45:37.420 --> 00:45:48.740 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): corridors, they're safe already. You don't need to give them 20 points to, you know, you just… that's just way too many. You're pushing up projects that don't need to be considered. 371 00:45:48.850 --> 00:45:56.689 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, I just keep on thinking about that one right behind my house. I wouldn't do a thing. I've written that probably… I've lived there for 40 years. I've probably written that up. 372 00:45:56.830 --> 00:45:59.380 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): 500 times. It's not dangerous. 373 00:45:59.970 --> 00:46:03.630 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Stevens Creek and De Anza State Church, that intersection. 374 00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:11.090 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Increased the maximum safety points to 30 from 20 for the 375 00:46:11.390 --> 00:46:15.830 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): For the… anything, the corridors, the intersections on a high-injury network. 376 00:46:16.080 --> 00:46:30.759 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And and then I would actually… for Foothill Boulevard, I would put that on the High Injury Network and put 30 points out there for that. But, that's… you know, if we were gonna… if I were gonna make a straw poll, I would put that… this out. 377 00:46:30.930 --> 00:46:32.150 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): You know, it's… 378 00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:40.450 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): We need to really rethink the scoring, and how… because in the end, it's all about the project list. 379 00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:47.580 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And see… If we go with this, It's… They are. 380 00:46:47.950 --> 00:46:53.840 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): It just doesn't make, you know, some of it makes sense, some of it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me. 381 00:46:54.810 --> 00:47:01.409 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thank you. Thank you, Joel. Thanks, everybody. Chair, can I say one or… Yes, absolutely. 382 00:47:01.560 --> 00:47:08.209 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So thank… thank you, everybody, for those comments. And I just… a few things, 383 00:47:08.670 --> 00:47:15.080 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): With respect to the weightings and the scorings, just to provide some context, Safety, of course, is… 384 00:47:15.720 --> 00:47:17.790 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Very important. Obviously. 385 00:47:18.330 --> 00:47:21.910 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): That said, it's not… 386 00:47:22.030 --> 00:47:30.099 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): a safety plan, it's an active transportation plan. And the… the purpose… we're not trying to recreate the plan. 387 00:47:30.820 --> 00:47:47.280 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We have that already. So, what the purpose of this plan is, is to encourage people to walk and bike, identifying improvements that could be made to make the trips, the short trips that are currently being made by automobile. 388 00:47:47.500 --> 00:47:55.830 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): appealing, easier for people to use active transportation to walk and bike. So… 389 00:47:55.830 --> 00:48:10.460 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The intent is not to just look at the locations where we have had injury fatalities and make improvements there, because ultimately that is not necessarily going to advance the goals of the active transportation plan. 390 00:48:11.530 --> 00:48:23.910 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's a factor, and it's an important factor, and we recognize that. But so are the other factors that we've included that we've heard. Cost effectiveness, which we've been asked to include by the City Council. 391 00:48:24.070 --> 00:48:26.090 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): You know, balance. 392 00:48:26.300 --> 00:48:40.000 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): These are other things, you know, access to schools that we've heard are important and that we need to consider in order to encourage people to get out of their cars and to walk and bike. 393 00:48:40.160 --> 00:48:41.200 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So… 394 00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:55.350 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): you know, if the Commission's direction is to recreate the Vision Zero plan, we can take that recommendation forward, but that's not the intent of the plan. Again, safety is an important consideration, it's not… it's not the only one. 395 00:48:56.230 --> 00:49:01.250 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And the next point I want to make is that, you know, keep in mind as we 396 00:49:01.450 --> 00:49:07.119 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Get into, this project is higher than that project, and why is this way down here? 397 00:49:08.690 --> 00:49:14.259 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): staff, the commissions, the council, at any time have the discretion to 398 00:49:14.640 --> 00:49:18.489 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Pick a project from this list, regardless of where it lands. 399 00:49:18.680 --> 00:49:27.369 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): and advance it for consideration for funding in the CIP. We've done that with the PED plan, we've done that with the bike plan, we will do it with this plan. 400 00:49:27.610 --> 00:49:35.930 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The project at 100 on the list might make sense to do tomorrow, because there's an opportunity to incorporate that work with something else that's happening. 401 00:49:36.370 --> 00:49:38.150 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): There is no… 402 00:49:38.910 --> 00:49:47.639 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): mandate to go line by line down the list, and if a project is 100, we're never gonna get to it, or if it's number one, we're gonna do it tomorrow. 403 00:49:47.810 --> 00:49:50.710 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): this is… This is a guide. 404 00:49:50.970 --> 00:49:58.110 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): where projects would rank relative to the certain criteria that we've set. But it's not… 405 00:49:58.590 --> 00:50:02.480 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Set in stone that this is the order in which we're going to do projects. 406 00:50:02.640 --> 00:50:06.949 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, as we get into the minutiae and we consider certain things, I just… I kind of want to… 407 00:50:07.750 --> 00:50:09.010 Quinlan Conference Room: Put that out there. 408 00:50:09.010 --> 00:50:10.670 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thank you, David. 409 00:50:10.675 --> 00:50:17.115 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I had some comments as well, I wanted to share some of my observations and stuff. So I actually think, 410 00:50:17.335 --> 00:50:28.155 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's impossible to create a plan that satisfies every scoring, every individual scoring opportunity, you know, every project ranks imperfectly. It's impossible. 411 00:50:28.445 --> 00:50:33.595 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Unless we kind of randomly rank them based on the fault. 412 00:50:34.005 --> 00:50:42.504 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): But I do think the feedback that we received, and I generally, actually, I'm quite supportive of it. I think it's actually quite a good plan. 413 00:50:42.715 --> 00:50:50.944 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's not perfect yet. I think there's some tweaking that we can do to make it perfect, but I think it's… it's a good foundation, it's a good core. 414 00:50:51.275 --> 00:50:56.975 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): what I think we clearly heard from multiple sources, including this discussion here. 415 00:50:57.115 --> 00:51:01.124 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): The scoring seemed a little bit off, and 416 00:51:01.435 --> 00:51:15.184 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think when you drill down into what caused it to be off, it sounds like the safe route to school is overscored. These are the some of the high network injury kind of issues there that we've been talking about. 417 00:51:15.345 --> 00:51:23.485 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I think, to me, that's actually a global, relatively easy fix to address that. 418 00:51:23.905 --> 00:51:31.794 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right now, the coalition history is 20 points, which is exactly the same as the Safe Routes to School. It's also 20 points. 419 00:51:32.055 --> 00:51:37.535 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): to me, that's probably where the issues are coming from. If you think about it, if you reduce 420 00:51:38.035 --> 00:51:43.815 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Let's say, as one scenario, as one possible path forward yet, 421 00:51:43.935 --> 00:51:50.994 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): We could easily say, we're gonna reduce the safe route to scoring impact from 20 to 10, or to 5, or whatever. 422 00:51:51.385 --> 00:52:03.995 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): that immediately takes it down to half of the value that it has today. And therefore, by definition, some of the collision history issues rise up in priority and rise up in 423 00:52:04.485 --> 00:52:23.725 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): scoring there. That's a relatively easy fix to do. It can be globally applied to all projects. Again, I'm not trying to pick a project. I think it would be very futile for you to pick individual projects and score based on that, but I think a more systemic approach that we can take here to take down this school proximity to 424 00:52:23.835 --> 00:52:40.714 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): 10 or even 5 points, if that is what's needed there to create the balance that I think is missing today. So that's one suggestion that I wanted to offer here as a way to kind of address the scoring. And I agree, by the way, I think the scoring with some of the 425 00:52:40.745 --> 00:52:51.935 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): high network injury probably should be a little bit balanced. I'm not thinking it should be the only criteria, it should be the exclusive way of driving the priority, but I think bringing it a little bit more in balance would probably be no problem. 426 00:52:52.875 --> 00:52:54.405 Quinlan Conference Room: The second one is… 427 00:52:54.515 --> 00:53:17.034 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I do agree to keep on the loss of lane… the lane reduction and parking removal. I think it's an important criteria on the plan. I think it has heard it over and over and over on private projects in the past, so I think it would be a real miss to not keep it in there. I think this is important, and I think it's about the right priority that's assigned to it. 428 00:53:17.425 --> 00:53:32.714 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Lastly, I also believe cost is a factor that should be considered. I mean, I used the example last time. Two projects are equal-based, and the cost one is… one is free, and the other one is an expensive project, and move into another fund within… 429 00:53:32.835 --> 00:53:36.434 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I would not make any changes there. 430 00:53:36.915 --> 00:53:53.465 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think there was some additional feedback, that I heard from this discussion here about possibly clustering some projects. I think that could be done in the bike plan, or bike pet plan, or ATP plan, or could also be a, 431 00:53:53.965 --> 00:54:12.375 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): strategic plan, the city that they take, so this year we can address here in those areas. And then, again, I think the city council will probably pull projects together from the whole list, it doesn't matter if it's priority number 7 or number 17, as long as they are fitting with the area that they probably will pull together as part of a 432 00:54:12.375 --> 00:54:15.184 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Bigger project in an area that the… 433 00:54:15.255 --> 00:54:34.224 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): being addressed. So I like the idea of clustering projects into kind of units, so that you can create this connectivity amongst different areas, and I think that could be accomplished either within the plan or even outside the plan. I'm not saying it has to be part of the plan, it could be also outside of the plan, honestly. 434 00:54:34.225 --> 00:54:37.595 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Again, I think the priority, we should not 435 00:54:37.595 --> 00:54:56.465 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): get too focused on the number that's assigned, if this is number 7 or number 17. I think you should look at the big picture, and if we can address the scoring, the miscoring of some of the projects by changing, kind of, the Safe Routes to School priority, I think that would probably address the issue. 436 00:54:56.915 --> 00:55:05.944 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I have one more final comment. I've seen this math with, like, you're doing some correction at the end, the correction fat, or… 437 00:55:06.815 --> 00:55:17.174 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think this is a very confusing type of way of presenting the data. It's not very clear, and I think it probably causes some of the confusion. 438 00:55:17.265 --> 00:55:34.204 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): The reason is obvious why we're doing this is because the balance is currently only in the bicycle projects, and it's not in the pedestrian project, so therefore, the total sum, is 100 for bicycle projects, but it's only $80 for 439 00:55:34.205 --> 00:55:41.495 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): the investment projects, and to correct for that, you have this correction factor, and I think that creates a lot of 440 00:55:41.715 --> 00:55:43.184 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Fusion, we believe. 441 00:55:43.615 --> 00:55:50.115 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): wouldn't it be… I think the end result is exactly the same, but wouldn't it be easier and simpler 442 00:55:50.395 --> 00:55:53.595 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): To essentially, instead of have the two 443 00:55:53.835 --> 00:56:12.505 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): the balance, the 20 points balance, have them positively, have them negative, essentially. So that essentially would make sure that every score is a maximum of 80, and then removal of parking, and you don't have this correction factor business that you are currently doing, you can eliminate all of that. 444 00:56:12.505 --> 00:56:18.924 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): And it would exactly be the same outcome, but I think it would be a cleaner way of presenting the data and the results there. 445 00:56:19.065 --> 00:56:24.894 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So all you would do is, essentially, you would have a maximum score of 80 for each of the categories. 446 00:56:24.895 --> 00:56:40.555 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, instead of having, the balance of positive impact, having a negative impact from… from 80 downwards, rather than from 80 upwards. That's, I think, would be exactly the same result. 447 00:56:40.555 --> 00:56:44.595 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Same outcome, change anything in the scoring, but it would present it in a clean way. 448 00:56:44.745 --> 00:56:50.435 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't know if that was very clear with my thoughts here, but no, you reflect. Yeah, okay. 449 00:56:50.555 --> 00:56:52.095 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Great. 450 00:56:52.095 --> 00:56:54.984 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, Chair, if I may, so we're… 451 00:56:55.725 --> 00:57:00.605 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We're getting kind of towards the end of the ATP process. 452 00:57:01.210 --> 00:57:03.590 Quinlan Conference Room: We're going to Council tomorrow, as you all know. 453 00:57:04.430 --> 00:57:05.610 Quinlan Conference Room: Following that. 454 00:57:07.130 --> 00:57:14.790 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We're gonna put together the final draft, which will be put for everybody's review and comment. 455 00:57:15.570 --> 00:57:19.470 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, in the interest of just… 456 00:57:19.970 --> 00:57:24.260 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Giving us focused direction, making sure that we understand. 457 00:57:24.500 --> 00:57:34.989 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): is… would it be possible to get motion or a straw pull? It seems like what's causing 90% of the angst is the… 458 00:57:35.550 --> 00:57:40.290 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): the scoring, the weightings, of what the Commission has a… 459 00:57:40.410 --> 00:57:47.979 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): body would recommend in terms of weightings for the various Criteria, so that we can… 460 00:57:48.200 --> 00:57:55.059 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): focus on that moving forward in terms of what we consider going to making. That makes reasonable, yeah. That would be helpful. Yep. 461 00:57:56.640 --> 00:57:59.030 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think we should probably offer a package of things. 462 00:57:59.710 --> 00:58:05.330 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): There are two or three things that probably make sense for everybody. Again, I wouldn't make the list too long, because of 463 00:58:05.850 --> 00:58:08.350 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think I… I don't think there's gonna be… 464 00:58:08.630 --> 00:58:13.269 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): 15 things to fix, I think if we fix 2 things, you probably are almost there. 465 00:58:13.830 --> 00:58:17.439 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, let's do a second while here. One question to the community. 466 00:58:17.445 --> 00:58:18.275 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): mission, 467 00:58:18.275 --> 00:58:18.875 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): a minute. 468 00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:25.679 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): I understand the parking thing is a sensitive topic, but I want to come back to the example that I mentioned before, where 469 00:58:25.850 --> 00:58:36.210 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): the city knows when, for example, a street is surrounded by offices, and I'm just curious whether you'd be open to that, depending on the zoning type, which I think the city knows. 470 00:58:36.530 --> 00:58:38.290 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): the parking requirement. 471 00:58:38.580 --> 00:58:51.480 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): moved for, for example, if the street is surrounded by offices, as opposed to houses, where it would be a different one where we could remove the points. But at least for, like, a commercial use where there is ample parking, then remove that. 472 00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:52.030 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Dr. 473 00:58:52.035 --> 00:58:53.905 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): criteria here, and just assigned. 474 00:58:53.910 --> 00:58:56.099 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): the 10 points. Is that something that… 475 00:58:56.890 --> 00:59:03.969 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I mean, I still think it's an important criteria that I would not… I think would be a missed and not a clue, even because 476 00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:19.079 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): You used the example before. There's multiple options very often that are being presented, so one option is a very destructive option, another option is not. We don't know yet which one's going to be proposed or decided upon. Therefore, I think at the moment. 477 00:59:19.080 --> 00:59:26.840 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): we have to kind of consider that as a factor in the equation, in my opinion. But I'm open again for other things. 478 00:59:26.845 --> 00:59:27.715 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): trying to… 479 00:59:28.100 --> 00:59:30.199 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Think of the things that are gonna be… 480 00:59:30.420 --> 00:59:46.270 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because if we are doing a prioritization thing, if something is high in the list, we want to, you know, implement it as quickly as possible, knowing that if it's high, we won't have, like, resistance, for example, from the neighbors, because there are no neighbors. So in that case. 481 00:59:46.270 --> 00:59:47.450 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Regarding, resulting parking. 482 00:59:47.715 --> 00:59:48.824 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): I was trying to think. 483 00:59:48.830 --> 01:00:01.620 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): How can we make sure that the projects that are at the top are going to be easy to implement? And in that case, well, there's not going to be any resistance, so we can go ahead, and that's why they should get the point automatically. Surrounded by 484 01:00:01.790 --> 01:00:07.750 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): commercial offices, or offices, then in that case, they would get the points, the 10 points that are made. 485 01:00:07.890 --> 01:00:08.730 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's kind of… 486 01:00:08.735 --> 01:00:12.494 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Also, in the case of businesses, sometimes they also don't want to lose parties. 487 01:00:12.495 --> 01:00:13.955 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, that's what I'm saying, officers. 488 01:00:13.955 --> 01:00:16.195 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): as opposed… because they have, I think, parking. 489 01:00:16.195 --> 01:00:20.040 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): requirements, as opposed to Commercial, like, retail type of thing. 490 01:00:20.045 --> 01:00:21.504 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's a different one. 491 01:00:21.745 --> 01:00:22.954 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): to be honest with you, I don't know. 492 01:00:22.955 --> 01:00:23.694 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, if the city… 493 01:00:23.700 --> 01:00:38.500 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): To me, honestly, this is not one I would probably, at this point, tackle. I think the feedback that we strongly received is around the overall scoring of safe routes to school, visibly high network injury. So I think if we… 494 01:00:38.650 --> 01:00:53.930 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): in the spirit of what David also mentioned, let's focus on those things that we heard loud and clear from multiple sources, and everybody, almost including this commission, everybody, rather than let's pick an individual pet kind of thing there. So, that's my recommendation. 495 01:00:54.720 --> 01:00:55.570 Quinlan Conference Room: Hello? 496 01:00:55.690 --> 01:00:57.070 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so… 497 01:00:57.255 --> 01:01:01.444 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think I said, I was saying about the clustering the project, or what I call it as a 498 01:01:01.695 --> 01:01:06.405 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Priority projects, or priority… Corridors, or… 499 01:01:06.445 --> 01:01:26.304 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): you can call it a zones, where you can pick projects around that to improve it. I think David was saying it's not about always safety, but then safety is an important criteria for encouraging people to really bike and walk. And so you have to address that, without which, you know, you can do whatever you want, but people are not going to use it, right? So that's the… 500 01:01:26.545 --> 01:01:28.285 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Challenge, so… 501 01:01:29.135 --> 01:01:43.534 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think this is where multiple cities have done it. I can point you to, you know, City of Fremont has done an ATP program, and then you can look at it. It's not that you need… we need to go and create a separate document. We have an opportunity right now to fix it, and… 502 01:01:43.535 --> 01:01:52.895 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): In spite of doing all the scoring, I'm far, you know, changing the scoring, but maybe it's not going to satisfy the community. You're going to find other projects that are falling apart. 503 01:01:52.995 --> 01:01:56.084 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, you know, some of the projects moving higher, right? So… 504 01:01:56.965 --> 01:01:59.264 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, I think we need to… 505 01:01:59.455 --> 01:02:17.525 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): come up with… maybe the staff can take a stab at it, and I'm sure, like, if you ask the consultant, they know about it because other cities have done it, and ask them to include a proposal on what zones that you want to prioritize. And safety corridor is one thing… I mean, the injury corridor is one thing, one example, but 506 01:02:17.725 --> 01:02:20.264 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): there could be others, right? So… 507 01:02:20.585 --> 01:02:35.174 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): ask them to come up with a proposal, and then you can pick up projects, multiple projects around that. There'll be a lot of opportunities to pick up projects of different scoring into that criteria, because the city has decided to go and address that zone. 508 01:02:35.285 --> 01:02:46.665 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right? Or to access it. If you're saying that there is a… oh, it is a connectivity, just putting lists of projects is not going to help. You need to show that, okay, we are going to have a, you know, corridor that addresses 509 01:02:47.445 --> 01:02:53.035 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): encourages people to, you know, bike to school or whatnot, right? So people bike to school if it is 510 01:02:53.155 --> 01:03:02.454 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): within 3 miles. This is given the state's, you know, pedestrian plans, right? So, and similarly, the 511 01:03:03.615 --> 01:03:17.955 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): If you want to encourage people to walk to commercial centers, then which means they trust me, within a mile, which encourages people to walk. So this is not what I'm saying. I think you can go and look at the state's pedestrian and bicycle plan, and they… they provide that number, that statistic. 512 01:03:18.195 --> 01:03:20.624 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): What makes a program successful. 513 01:03:21.045 --> 01:03:30.145 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that's… that's something that you can… we have to state that as a vision. Watch the vision for this ATP in order to develop these zones or areas, or projects? 514 01:03:31.605 --> 01:03:40.794 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): You can also have programs, by the way. The programs, when I said that if you want to encourage people to bike and walk, it's not necessarily always infrastructure development projects. It could also be 515 01:03:40.795 --> 01:03:58.945 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): programs that will encourage people, you know, campaigns and things, to walk and bike. So that's another thing that could complement the infrastructure projects, and that could also be part of the program. This is where I gave an example of City of Fremont to go take a look at it, and there are other cities as well who have done 516 01:03:59.225 --> 01:04:01.704 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Similar things as part of the ATP. 517 01:04:02.225 --> 01:04:06.234 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, that's about it, thank you. I was wondering. 518 01:04:06.645 --> 01:04:25.545 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do we have to do this as part of the bike plan, or could we… because I'm thinking it… I think the clustering, in my opinion, makes a lot of sense, but I think it's driven by factors that change over time. If you put this in the plan today, we lock ourselves for a 10-year kind of a master plan. Isn't it driven by 519 01:04:25.715 --> 01:04:33.515 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Making an example here, Apple comes out and say, I'm gonna offer you, I don't know, at this point, $6 million to improve the area around 520 01:04:33.685 --> 01:04:48.995 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): this part of the city. And then City Council would say, okay, well, let's see what would fall into that category. So to me, that clustering is more a function over time, rather than a kind of a predetermined setting that we would put in the plan. 521 01:04:50.280 --> 01:05:08.509 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): It could also… it could also work against you, because there are 10 projects in the cluster, and you don't have the money to do them all. It may discourage doing two of them, which you might have the money for, which you would otherwise be able to do in the absence of considering it as part of… so it could work… 522 01:05:08.520 --> 01:05:10.499 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Either way. I mean, I like the idea. 523 01:05:10.505 --> 01:05:27.525 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think it's a great idea, because you get economies of scale. If you tackle an area. Maybe there is a redevelopment, there is a new housing project being built somewhere. In that neighborhood, you may want to do also projects that are kind of all aligned and adjacent, so they create connections there. 524 01:05:27.525 --> 01:05:36.694 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And as you mentioned before, that's a decision that could be done outside of the plan when we're running requests for projects, that you want to do this, that, and that, because it… 525 01:05:37.175 --> 01:05:38.575 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): it'll format. 526 01:05:38.775 --> 01:05:40.894 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's the route, yeah. 527 01:05:41.870 --> 01:05:48.700 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): I believe also that there's something I fully agree with you in terms of clusters. I like the idea of clusters, because as I mentioned also at the beginning, that's how you. 528 01:05:48.705 --> 01:05:50.435 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): We should measure the success. 529 01:05:50.615 --> 01:06:00.035 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): of this working and parking plan is, like, how many people are using it for these entire networks, not just for this point, or this project and this project. 530 01:06:00.850 --> 01:06:03.510 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Any alerts, feedback, or comments? 531 01:06:06.670 --> 01:06:11.149 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I mean, if… sorry, no, I have a couple of, talent machines. 532 01:06:11.155 --> 01:06:17.565 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right? So, thank you, Dave, for clarifying, you know, the intent of, you know, what we are trying to do here. 533 01:06:18.135 --> 01:06:25.675 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I do have a question for you, like, so you said, the goal is to encourage 534 01:06:25.845 --> 01:06:29.785 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): walking and biking and stuff, you know, cops. That's, that's, that's so… 535 01:06:30.095 --> 01:06:32.624 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I just want to use an example, right? Like. 536 01:06:32.885 --> 01:06:46.684 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Where I live, right, if I need to go to library, or, you know, if I need to go to Target or something, right? I walk, right? Because I have no need to get on the car. If I had to go to Safeway, right, the one, you know, on… 537 01:06:46.855 --> 01:06:50.255 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Bollinger, the one, you know, on Homestead. 538 01:06:50.435 --> 01:06:56.654 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm not going to walk, right? So, I'm going to get on the car. So, so what should we do to… 539 01:06:56.865 --> 01:06:58.755 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): get me not to use color. 540 01:06:59.835 --> 01:07:12.135 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right? So, I'm just curious, like, because, you know, if that's the intent, right? So, are we trying to change people's behavior, or, like, you know, because that's hard, right? So, 541 01:07:12.545 --> 01:07:27.544 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): you know, I'm going to decide based on the proximity to where I'm trying to get to. Within a mile, people are likely to walk, right? If it's more than a mile, they're going to get on the car. So… so that's just the reality. So… 542 01:07:27.985 --> 01:07:36.304 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't know. So, is there anything that you could do to get me off the car? To go to Safeway? 543 01:07:38.370 --> 01:07:48.569 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, I mean, improving the experience of, say, the bike routes and the walking routes between McClellan and Safeway. 544 01:07:48.575 --> 01:08:01.724 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): my example, like, let's take, you know, people that are living in Monterista area, you know, closer to… In which area? Monta Vista, right? More closer to Lindaista Park and all that. What is it that we can do to get them to walk, you know, these shops? 545 01:08:01.995 --> 01:08:03.315 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): They are bikes. 546 01:08:03.455 --> 01:08:09.445 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I can't think that, you know, there is anything that can be done to make them to walk or bike. 547 01:08:09.635 --> 01:08:14.184 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): be serious. They're going to get on the car and get, because it's too far. 548 01:08:15.520 --> 01:08:30.609 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, for some people, it will be, yeah, but we want to try to capture those people that, you know, however many or few there are, that do drive, that might walk or bike, if it were me, just a little bit more appealing, and that's why we did the trip analysis with 549 01:08:30.810 --> 01:08:43.730 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): document that looked at so many people that are, you know, these are the locations where the origins and destinations are between 1 and 3 miles, that really, all the people that are driving between point A and point B 550 01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:48.660 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Some portion of them might get on their bike and ride. 551 01:08:49.170 --> 01:08:52.670 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): These improvements between those two points. Yeah, the. 552 01:08:52.675 --> 01:09:03.334 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm trying to drive my example, I don't know, the argument is, I think it's hard to change, because it is very hard. They do what they want, right? So… 553 01:09:03.795 --> 01:09:10.374 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Our goal should be, you know, to make it safer for people to operate within, you know, what they want. 554 01:09:10.854 --> 01:09:21.075 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right? The bikers and walkers and, you know, cars, we should make it, you know, safer for everybody. That's the goal underneath that, right? Not, you know, change the vehicle. 555 01:09:22.104 --> 01:09:25.765 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): To change the behavior is impossible at this wordage. 556 01:09:25.765 --> 01:09:28.045 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't think anybody's saying one. 557 01:09:28.045 --> 01:09:28.804 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): to, you know. 558 01:09:28.805 --> 01:09:48.454 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): The static goal of the ATP isn't to achieve some kind of mode shift target, it's really just to make walking and biking easier for those that want to choose that transportation mode. It's providing them with the network, it's providing them with the program and policy recommendations that are in the plan, and it's not about mode shift. Okay, good. 559 01:09:48.460 --> 01:10:05.760 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I just want us to be on the same page in terms of, you know, what is it we're trying to achieve, right? And I have a question to, you know, Commissioner the Wolf, right? So, I know that you are passionate about, you know, the De Anza and Stevens Creek junction, right? So I'm curious, you know, what is it, you know, you would do to make it safer? 560 01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:10.619 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right? I know it's a high traffic junction in both directions, but pedestrian. 561 01:10:10.830 --> 01:10:14.559 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): What is it, you know, you can think of? Let's say, you know, you have an infinite amount of money. 562 01:10:14.690 --> 01:10:16.939 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): What is it, you know, you do to make it safer? 563 01:10:17.505 --> 01:10:20.635 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't think we're in this situation with the CDF. 564 01:10:20.635 --> 01:10:39.404 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm just curious, because I want to hear, because I see it, I, you know, it's pretty dangerous, not only for pedestrians, but even car crossing, because, you know, nobody stops, even after, you know, that it turns red. Yeah, yeah. And pretty dangerous, like, you know, hit on pollisions, you know, type of a situation. So I'm just curious, you know, what is it, you know? Yeah, yeah. 565 01:10:39.405 --> 01:10:42.114 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Before you answer, we… from the Commission, we are… 566 01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:47.089 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): How many of us have seen at least one accident with the police? 567 01:10:47.090 --> 01:10:50.179 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Or the, the emergency services were here. 568 01:10:50.185 --> 01:10:51.735 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do you see one? 569 01:10:51.865 --> 01:10:57.585 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because I, I… like, at least once a year, I see someone that needs… 570 01:10:57.585 --> 01:10:59.085 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, that intersection. Intelligence. 571 01:10:59.085 --> 01:11:04.504 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): protection, that means emergency services are way too much to my taste, so… 572 01:11:04.505 --> 01:11:15.455 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): If it's not over there, I can see dark places in our street. Like, you know, on my old street, McLean, I've seen so many accidents. I provided footage to the police officer, because I have cameras. 573 01:11:15.585 --> 01:11:20.195 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right? They come to me wanting to see, you know, footage. I've done that many times. 574 01:11:21.700 --> 01:11:30.609 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, I'll address Steven's Creek and De Anza. I mean, I'm not a traffic engineer, but it's, I mean, the… 575 01:11:30.740 --> 01:11:36.029 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): The biggest problem you have is, as a pedestrian, I mean, I do see red light running frequently. 576 01:11:36.180 --> 01:11:37.369 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): But, brilliant. 577 01:11:37.370 --> 01:11:39.440 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I mean, where the cops stay? Where the cops, yeah. 578 01:11:39.445 --> 01:11:41.875 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): But what you do see is when you're in the crosswalk. 579 01:11:42.235 --> 01:11:46.085 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Either stepping out into the crosswalk, or coming across 580 01:11:46.195 --> 01:11:48.995 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And… there are people that just… 581 01:11:49.425 --> 01:11:53.884 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): In broad daylight, they just won't stop for you. 582 01:11:54.495 --> 01:12:00.325 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): You have to have people… if everybody obeyed the law, you wouldn't need all these… this infrastructure improvement. 583 01:12:00.595 --> 01:12:05.185 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): You have to get people to, you know, stop before you turn right on. 584 01:12:05.785 --> 01:12:18.864 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): You have to get people to stop for people that are in the pedestrian crosswalk that have, you know, have the right only. I mean, that's… you're… you feel threatened, and… and I live very close by, and I talk to my neighbors, I ask them. 585 01:12:19.575 --> 01:12:27.114 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): They will tell me, many of my neighbors will tell me, they don't want to cross Stevens Group, Indiana. It's not safe. It's just so aggressive. 586 01:12:27.365 --> 01:12:31.904 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And and there was a former mayor that I won't name, just 587 01:12:32.025 --> 01:12:38.355 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): My wife and I and 3 other… 4 other people, already crossing, Stevens Creek and Gannis a few weeks ago. 588 01:12:38.405 --> 01:12:57.735 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And we were out in the crosswalk, maybe 10 feet, and he zooms across, takes a right turn across our pathway, and that did not make anybody feel safe at a fairly high speed. Now, he probably thought he could do it without hitting anybody, but there are… those behavioral changes have to be made. 589 01:12:57.835 --> 01:13:01.844 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And those are two very aggressive streets, red light cameras. 590 01:13:01.850 --> 01:13:03.769 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do you like that for us? 591 01:13:03.775 --> 01:13:19.665 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): have cameras that actually ticket people for turn… for not stopping on a bed before you turn right, and for ticketing people that, if you're in the crosswalk, then you can't be turning through that, you know. 592 01:13:19.725 --> 01:13:25.745 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): You know, if I cross that medium barrier, and I'm in that sectional crosswalk, you gotta stop there. Bringing us back to the technology. 593 01:13:25.745 --> 01:13:27.165 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): discussion, I think. 594 01:13:27.910 --> 01:13:42.669 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): David probably knows some things you can do, bump outs and, leading pedestrian vehicles, you know, you can do certain things that maybe make it less amenable to turning right, but I mean, I don't think it's, you know, it's our… 595 01:13:42.910 --> 01:13:47.659 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): our goal here to solve these problems. No, I was wondering, though. 596 01:13:48.110 --> 01:13:57.900 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Something like, you know, given what you described, seems like, you know, no right thong red, you know, would help, because, you know, people are just, you know, making a right thong. 597 01:13:58.060 --> 01:14:10.510 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): full speed, you know, even though pedestrings are processed, right? Because there are two… they just come from two sources. Like, one is, you know, people that don't stop for it, right? So, that's, you know, the street traffic that are going. 598 01:14:10.690 --> 01:14:22.850 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): There's nothing we can do, you know, to change that behavior. They're going to run the red light, they're going to run, and most likely the pedestrian is not going to be, you know, there at that point, because, you know, you start 599 01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:42.869 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Little later, right? So… but then I see your point on, you know, the right turns, right? Because, you know, you've made the cross, and you were pretty close, you know, coming to the end point, and then somebody's, you know, trying to, you know, cut you through, because, you know, they think, you know, they can make a right turn. So… so that, you know, I can see, okay? Thank you for the clarification. Yeah. 600 01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:47.120 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Wonderful. So, I think, Pennya, or… I didn't want to… 601 01:14:47.310 --> 01:14:50.329 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I want to address what David said. 602 01:14:50.450 --> 01:15:01.130 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): the, earlier, when we were working on the Vision Zero, I remember, I think I asked you, I said, well, how do we get this implemented? And I think I was told it was the Active Transportation Plan. 603 01:15:01.260 --> 01:15:17.829 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Now you're telling us, okay, it's not the Active Transportation Plan, because Vision Zero just has a series of tools. It doesn't really… and it tells you where the dangerous areas are and where the KSIs are, but I mean, I think the… I was told that the Active Transportation Plan is how we get Vision Zero implemented. 604 01:15:18.170 --> 01:15:22.129 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And so I'd like to… and the other thing I… 605 01:15:22.260 --> 01:15:38.759 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): looked at is… it was a while back, but I thought there was a listing of what projects were done. We had three tiers for the prior, I don't know if it was the bike pad plan, maybe both of them combined, but it seems to me, if you're a Tier 1, the first group, you're going to have much better chance of getting that project done. 606 01:15:38.940 --> 01:15:40.060 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, 607 01:15:40.320 --> 01:15:47.139 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): the, then if you're in Tier 2, especially if you're in Tier 3. I don't… we don't have any tiers right now. 608 01:15:47.280 --> 01:15:53.559 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): But, what concerned me is just two things. It's just how they're ranked, and the missing 609 01:15:53.730 --> 01:15:56.939 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Certain intersections aren't even in there, so… 610 01:15:57.090 --> 01:16:13.249 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): how are we going to improve the safety of those intersections? I mean, that are in the, you know, listed as high-injury interceptions? So, that… that would be my point there. So, why rank it if, you know, maybe we should just list all the projects and decide how… we shouldn't even have any scoring. 611 01:16:13.780 --> 01:16:26.639 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Maybe you just list all the projects, and then you get the council, the Council decides what projects to pick. Because if we're saying the score isn't that important, then I would be concerned about that. 612 01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:31.419 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And the other thing I would say is that 613 01:16:31.860 --> 01:16:43.669 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And we… there are other plans out there, you know, it's the Climate Action Plan, I don't know if you're aware that there are goals to reduce, to increase walking and biking, so you… I think it's the… 614 01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:55.070 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think Viking by about 15% by 2030, and maybe 30% by 2035. Do you see that happening? I think you would need a very good plan, and some really good infrastructure to do that. 615 01:16:55.140 --> 01:17:07.809 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then we have a 2018 VTA county- wide plan, and they list the major corridors that are in the… that they're concerned with for, you know, cross-city travel, cross… cross- county travel. 616 01:17:07.940 --> 01:17:24.610 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, and I don't know if those were included or considered, because there's some major corridors in there that, I think Homestead is one of them. It's not really getting a lot of love in this… in this project listing. And I think Home… I think it's Homestead, Bollinger. 617 01:17:24.610 --> 01:17:28.119 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Stevens Creek, so some of these plants are not getting any 618 01:17:28.300 --> 01:17:47.610 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): some of these, quarters are not getting any consideration, or a great deal of consideration from, from Cupertino, and if it's in the VTA plan, how does that, how does that… how do those two things mesh? So, I'd just like to point that out. There's other plans out there that talk about walking… walking and biking, particularly biking. 619 01:17:47.900 --> 01:17:48.990 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): that I'm… 620 01:17:50.220 --> 01:18:00.529 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Are we doing anything with vision… with Climate Action Plan? And there are a list of recommendations in the Climate Action Plan, about 3 pages, of things that we as a 621 01:18:00.830 --> 01:18:06.240 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): You know, that should be in the active transportation plan, which, you know, I haven't spent a lot of time on. 622 01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:10.960 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): But, I mean, we could talk about this for days. 623 01:18:10.965 --> 01:18:14.145 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I agree, I agree, I think that's right. I mean, I think, to me, the… 624 01:18:14.525 --> 01:18:22.874 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): the main message I heard tonight, and even the days before, I was, I was also attending the, 625 01:18:23.735 --> 01:18:26.545 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Planet Commission meeting, as I was listening in there as well. 626 01:18:26.615 --> 01:18:37.264 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think it's very clear that the scoring, can improve. I mean, the rest, to me, I think, is actually all acceptable. I think the rest is all workable. 627 01:18:37.325 --> 01:18:49.154 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think the scoring… again, I made the recommendation I made earlier to reduce the Safe Routes to School scoring, so that we can have a more 628 01:18:49.425 --> 01:19:01.914 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): indirectly higher priority. And I think I hear, David, I think it's not… ATP is not equal to, Action Zero Plan. I think that's totally a fair comment. I think it's a… 629 01:19:02.095 --> 01:19:17.525 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Action Zero is a subset of the… the ATP is a superset, effectively. So it encompasses everything. But I think if we tune that storing so that we get a little bit more mileage out of the high engineering networks. 630 01:19:18.355 --> 01:19:22.025 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I can see that as a working solution for tonight. 631 01:19:22.415 --> 01:19:28.754 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): throw a proposal on the table, and, you know, maybe, you know, make a motion and, you know, vote on that. Yes, yes. 632 01:19:30.605 --> 01:19:36.985 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, I'm happy to talk to, yeah, that's for me. 633 01:19:44.530 --> 01:19:50.669 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So we, I'm making a draft in the weekend, Eddie. I move to promote the, 634 01:19:51.410 --> 01:20:03.309 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): ATP plan draft version 2, as, as presented tonight, with the following, modifications. First, to address 635 01:20:03.510 --> 01:20:08.169 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): The scoring inequality, of, 636 01:20:08.980 --> 01:20:11.389 Quinlan Conference Room: Vision Zero Impine Network Injury. 637 01:20:14.080 --> 01:20:15.250 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Going too fast. 638 01:20:15.410 --> 01:20:16.689 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Sweet. 639 01:20:23.690 --> 01:20:25.140 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Feeds do that. 640 01:20:26.980 --> 01:20:30.280 Quinlan Conference Room: move to approve the ATP draft. 641 01:20:31.480 --> 01:20:32.560 Quinlan Conference Room: version. 642 01:20:35.460 --> 01:20:36.720 Quinlan Conference Room: No, no jet. 643 01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:38.939 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): as presented. 644 01:20:39.570 --> 01:20:40.650 Quinlan Conference Room: Today. 645 01:20:41.230 --> 01:20:42.809 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): with the following… 646 01:20:45.220 --> 01:20:46.150 Quinlan Conference Room: Online? 647 01:20:46.260 --> 01:20:48.249 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Set of modifications. 648 01:20:50.540 --> 01:20:59.480 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, question. There's no draft of where ATP still is yet to be… Yeah, you're right, you're right. 649 01:20:59.990 --> 01:21:02.729 Quinlan Conference Room: Pleasure to be able to talk about this. So this is the. 650 01:21:03.030 --> 01:21:08.639 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Is it a proposal, or what do you call it? A draft project prioritization list? 651 01:21:09.810 --> 01:21:12.209 Quinlan Conference Room: Okay. Well, it's more than that, though, it's. 652 01:21:14.580 --> 01:21:18.159 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, we could say that the draft materials as presented. Draft materials as presented. 653 01:21:18.160 --> 01:21:23.580 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): But yeah, I think everybody knows what… because I think it's probably materially what has been presented. 654 01:21:29.780 --> 01:21:36.130 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, first modification would be to, Address the inequality 655 01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:41.000 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): False. 656 01:21:41.460 --> 01:21:49.740 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): ranking of… Cupertino Vision Zero, and, as well as High Network, High Enjoy Network. 657 01:21:57.620 --> 01:22:01.590 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): of inequality kind of always have imbalance between… Sure. 658 01:22:04.780 --> 01:22:07.789 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): inequality would be balanced. Between… 659 01:22:08.110 --> 01:22:10.380 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): The ranking for 10 addition of zero. 660 01:22:11.170 --> 01:22:12.090 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): Every teacher. 661 01:22:15.370 --> 01:22:19.400 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): inequality or imbalance between? Between, I would say the. 662 01:22:19.990 --> 01:22:26.869 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): high engineering network from Vision Zero, and the proposed projects in the ATP. 663 01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:30.299 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's fair. Yeah, let's fine. 664 01:22:32.490 --> 01:22:34.820 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): And we could do this by, sort of. 665 01:22:34.950 --> 01:22:37.519 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): The sentence is not complete yet. 666 01:22:47.690 --> 01:22:49.280 Quinlan Conference Room: of the Vision Zero plan. 667 01:22:52.070 --> 01:22:54.480 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): My engineering corridors and intersections. 668 01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:55.989 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Hold on, hold on. 669 01:22:56.600 --> 01:22:57.713 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Let's just… 670 01:22:59.390 --> 01:23:00.450 Quinlan Conference Room: Trusty. 671 01:23:08.060 --> 01:23:08.670 Quinlan Conference Room: Okay. 672 01:23:15.330 --> 01:23:16.039 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): How's that? 673 01:23:17.590 --> 01:23:21.320 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Continue the sentence, and I enter a network by… 674 01:23:23.370 --> 01:23:24.710 Quinlan Conference Room: reducing… 675 01:23:26.970 --> 01:23:34.020 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): the… Max score for school proximity to 10? 676 01:23:49.140 --> 01:23:54.710 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): for, for all, I guess, I guess, for all, addresses. 677 01:23:54.900 --> 01:23:57.299 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): For all format… all three purposes. 678 01:24:03.980 --> 01:24:08.010 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Or… Both. 679 01:24:12.970 --> 01:24:14.800 Quinlan Conference Room: For all three matrices? Yep. 680 01:24:16.430 --> 01:24:22.340 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So it's bicycle network, it's, pedestrian intersections, pedestrian side. 681 01:24:22.910 --> 01:24:37.709 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that, that essentially boosts the, high networks and high engineering networks. And then the second point, that I wanted to repeat what I mentioned earlier, is I think we should eliminate that, kind of. 682 01:24:38.130 --> 01:24:48.040 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): score adjustment, the 1.25 adjustment and whatnot there, by essentially making the balance, in the bicycle 683 01:24:48.260 --> 01:24:49.790 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): a negative value. 684 01:24:50.370 --> 01:24:53.970 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): But just wondering, the school proximity is in a different bucket, right? 685 01:24:53.970 --> 01:24:57.089 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's in a different bucket, yeah. It's in Access. Yes. 686 01:24:57.095 --> 01:24:57.735 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): access for. 687 01:24:57.735 --> 01:25:08.865 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): for example, for the basketball network project prioritization matrix, access will go down to 20? Yes, correct. Correct, correct, correct, correct. You say that again? 688 01:25:08.870 --> 01:25:10.359 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conference Room): The max safety platform. 689 01:25:10.365 --> 01:25:14.084 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Total max store or access will go down to 20. Yeah, safety will go. 690 01:25:14.085 --> 01:25:15.735 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, up to 40 in access to. 691 01:25:15.740 --> 01:25:18.600 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): go down to the point, because we would… Oh, I did not… 692 01:25:18.605 --> 01:25:21.605 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I did not consider moving it up to… I did not consider that. 693 01:25:21.605 --> 01:25:27.674 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): The school bus proximity safe for us to school criteria is in the access criteria, so we need to change. 694 01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:28.470 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Is that possible. 695 01:25:28.860 --> 01:25:35.110 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's… that's correct, but the other… the second point that you made, I did not consider that. I haven't thought about that, so I'm sure you think about that. 696 01:25:35.250 --> 01:25:43.550 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So yes, the first point that Irvine made is correct, that we use is essentially the max score for access to 20 from 30. 697 01:25:45.810 --> 01:25:48.700 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Influent to these 10 points into the… 698 01:25:49.180 --> 01:25:52.120 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Behind your guests. Start over, what do we… 699 01:25:52.125 --> 01:25:58.305 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): For all three matrices, comma, reducing… 700 01:26:00.240 --> 01:26:02.830 Quinlan Conference Room: The goal max score. 701 01:26:04.120 --> 01:26:09.110 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): for access… For access. 702 01:26:12.630 --> 01:26:13.710 Quinlan Conference Room: To… 703 01:26:14.510 --> 01:26:16.090 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conference Room): 20 feet? 20. 704 01:26:16.980 --> 01:26:19.300 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm afraid we should find some people. 705 01:26:20.610 --> 01:26:22.040 Quinlan Conference Room: Thanks, Matt. 706 01:26:25.080 --> 01:26:31.899 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Let me just finish maybe the second part that I wanted to make, and then come back to your… I will not forget it. 707 01:26:32.060 --> 01:26:32.540 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conference Room): Just one thing. 708 01:26:32.540 --> 01:26:34.179 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thanks to the school. 709 01:26:34.180 --> 01:26:37.789 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Proximity is defined as located along. 710 01:26:37.795 --> 01:26:38.725 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's just cool. 711 01:26:38.965 --> 01:26:43.015 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): may or may not be the same, but I'd rather resells. 712 01:26:43.830 --> 01:26:47.300 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): co-proximity, meaning along the system. Proximity is the proxim. 713 01:26:47.305 --> 01:26:50.934 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): criteria, that's the criteria, that's what it's called. Yeah, but you can… 714 01:26:52.530 --> 01:26:55.020 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Proximity to school would not be necessary for us to stop. 715 01:26:57.320 --> 01:26:58.240 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): prompt. 716 01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:02.259 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right, right. I can tell you at Eaton, for example. 717 01:27:02.265 --> 01:27:03.085 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Garlic. 718 01:27:03.325 --> 01:27:09.205 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): streets that are not… that they are… Yeah, that they are not passing through to feed the cowboy. 719 01:27:09.210 --> 01:27:09.770 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): You, how would you? 720 01:27:09.770 --> 01:27:12.759 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll just say, instead of saying. 721 01:27:12.765 --> 01:27:15.425 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Not for, for being… 722 01:27:16.540 --> 01:27:19.729 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Located along a safe route distribution block. 723 01:27:23.550 --> 01:27:25.460 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, okay, that's fine, that's fine. 724 01:27:25.660 --> 01:27:28.059 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then the second point, 725 01:27:29.780 --> 01:27:33.829 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Make the balance in the bicycle, 726 01:27:34.200 --> 01:27:39.750 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): metrics a negative score, so meaning, 727 01:27:39.850 --> 01:27:45.220 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): It deducts points if lane reductions or parking removal is happening. 728 01:27:53.980 --> 01:27:56.449 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): We really are doubling the weight for the balance. 729 01:27:56.510 --> 01:27:57.070 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Nope. 730 01:27:57.070 --> 01:28:15.659 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, I will… I'm just equalizing everything to the same number, because the other ones are, right now… the reason why we have this imbalance right now is because balance is only in the bicycle metrics, it's not in the other ones. That's why… and that's why we have to do this conversion business with the 125. 731 01:28:15.930 --> 01:28:16.330 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well… 732 01:28:18.100 --> 01:28:23.039 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We do the conversion in the technology quarters as well. 733 01:28:23.045 --> 01:28:30.415 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think it's only four projects range, so I don't think they will have any material in the pack. You can still do it for them if you prefer, so… 734 01:28:30.915 --> 01:28:35.384 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Or you change the scoring points so that you get up to the same number. 735 01:28:36.005 --> 01:28:48.035 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): percentage-wise. Keep the same percentage-wise, but just adjust it so that the same, total number, I think it's now… we have a total of 17 now maximum in each of the categories. 736 01:28:53.035 --> 01:28:57.464 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't know if this has been cleared here. Is this clear what the intent here is? We could also… 737 01:28:57.465 --> 01:29:08.165 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Remove the modifier as a column and change the total to the adjusted score total, to clarify that that normalization occurred, but then removing that. 738 01:29:08.810 --> 01:29:10.450 Quinlan Conference Room: value. 739 01:29:11.460 --> 01:29:16.489 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Next to the other criteria, which might kind of clean up some of the confusion there. 740 01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:26.359 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think what I suggested to me sounds pretty clear. Okay. I can certainly explain this to anybody. Okay. But the conversion? 741 01:29:26.365 --> 01:29:29.385 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Explain it again to me. 742 01:29:29.385 --> 01:29:30.115 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): The conversion. 743 01:29:30.120 --> 01:29:31.600 Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conference Room): business with people for me to. 744 01:29:31.605 --> 01:29:33.884 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, to be honest. 745 01:29:33.885 --> 01:29:53.365 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): limit the amount of work we need the consultant to do, because they have it all programmed on their end, where those values are in there. I just don't know the amount of work that's going to be required for their GIS staff to make those edits. So, it could be a simple reworking or modification, or it could be something that could require… They could change the. 746 01:29:53.365 --> 01:29:56.725 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): the modifier to 1.00 for all of them. 747 01:29:56.725 --> 01:29:59.364 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): If they really want to… Can we… 748 01:29:59.365 --> 01:30:07.155 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Can we keep it general and say, just… Eliminate the modifier column, and… 749 01:30:07.985 --> 01:30:13.165 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): adjust as appropriate. Yeah, I think the best way to do it. 750 01:30:13.165 --> 01:30:18.544 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): how to address it is to make the balance a negative balance. That's the… that's the way, I think that's the core. 751 01:30:18.550 --> 01:30:31.029 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): And the way we approached that scoring, too, is we wanted to reward projects with fewer trade-offs, so that's why they were given the additional points, rather than saying, no, these are bad projects, we want to subtract points from them, so… 752 01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:33.869 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Kind of a distinction in framing. 753 01:30:34.320 --> 01:30:37.619 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): But it adds a lot of complexity and understanding to the scoring. 754 01:30:38.340 --> 01:30:39.989 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): It just adds an additional column. 755 01:30:44.020 --> 01:30:52.520 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'm open for ideas and suggestions as well. I mean, I think this is something that when I looked through it, it stuck out in my eye as a super thought. 756 01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:53.420 Quinlan Conference Room: Bye. 757 01:30:53.610 --> 01:30:55.190 Quinlan Conference Room: I would recommend… 758 01:30:56.710 --> 01:31:02.760 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Going to 30 points under safety criteria with… under collision history. 759 01:31:02.910 --> 01:31:05.689 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Going from 20 to 30 points for those 760 01:31:06.090 --> 01:31:16.240 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Intersections in maybe the top, 7 high-injury corridors in the top 20 high injury intersections. 761 01:31:16.460 --> 01:31:34.950 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that they… they do get some preference, that you… you're sure that these dangerous corridors and the dangerous intersections are going to be addressed. They're not going to be pushed way down. And I've looked at many of the intersections, and I… I think that… I think there needs to be… 762 01:31:35.550 --> 01:31:38.590 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think knocking 10 points off of, of the, 763 01:31:39.040 --> 01:31:47.009 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Safe Routes to school, thing is good, but, I think you're gonna have to go add some safety to the, 764 01:31:47.650 --> 01:31:50.939 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): For the high injury intersections, the high injury corridors. 765 01:31:50.945 --> 01:31:51.685 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): but. 766 01:31:51.690 --> 01:31:53.220 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): You're concerned? 767 01:31:53.225 --> 01:31:57.324 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): A high engineering intersection and high-ending poor cargoers. 768 01:31:57.465 --> 01:31:59.084 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Are telling us something. 769 01:31:59.225 --> 01:32:09.774 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): You know, in the sense, you know, if the accident's happening there, that's an indication that something needs to be done there. So we need to weigh that in. 770 01:32:10.415 --> 01:32:14.165 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's pretty, like, you know, yet another section. 771 01:32:14.165 --> 01:32:20.695 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): you can either address it as part of the points here, or you could have that as a separate criteria. 772 01:32:20.925 --> 01:32:39.675 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): I was talking about clustering, but you can pick high energy network that's addressed in Vision Zero and say that… use that as an opportunity to address those things here. You don't want to go after priority zones and things like that, which you said that it could change. But this is not going to change. It's already well documented. Yes, yes. And it's already. 773 01:32:39.675 --> 01:32:49.804 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): there's already category here, so, I mean, maybe it sounds like upgrading to 30 from 20 may be a way to address those issues. I would agree with that. 774 01:32:50.555 --> 01:33:03.974 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): it certainly brings down a lot. I mean, we essentially kind of returned it… so I'm sure there's going to be some feedback coming, now, save our school, you know, I'm concerned about them at all. 775 01:33:05.495 --> 01:33:07.904 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Some of that is gonna come there. 776 01:33:08.255 --> 01:33:12.425 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I can go on this one either way. I'm very, very happy this is going. 777 01:33:15.315 --> 01:33:17.684 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, what are we… are we changing? 778 01:33:17.925 --> 01:33:18.755 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh. 779 01:33:18.995 --> 01:33:23.184 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll increase maximum safety points to 30 from 20. 780 01:33:24.090 --> 01:33:25.130 Quinlan Conference Room: for the… 781 01:33:26.050 --> 01:33:28.050 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do you want to say the top? 782 01:33:28.055 --> 01:33:31.865 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The High Injury Network? To the High Injury Network. You have to go… 783 01:33:31.865 --> 01:33:35.005 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): total gold max to 40. So the total would be 40. 784 01:33:35.010 --> 01:33:35.539 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that would. 785 01:33:35.540 --> 01:33:40.889 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): apply to the corridors of concern and the priority intersection projects? Okay. 786 01:33:41.250 --> 01:33:44.099 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, this would apply to all the addresses, right? 787 01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:52.370 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, yes, but the projects that overlap with the corridors of concern, which are the top 7 kind of corridors, and… 788 01:33:52.960 --> 01:34:00.419 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): Forget how many are the top intersections, but… There's a total of 48, but yeah, but the ones that are in the top, however many that is. 789 01:34:00.420 --> 01:34:03.430 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): 10, a top 20, top 10. Yeah, I forget how it's classified. 790 01:34:12.200 --> 01:34:23.179 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I mean, I think certainly that, in my opinion, is a pretty radical shift, for safety. I think it kind of addresses the feedback that we have received from 791 01:34:23.400 --> 01:34:32.900 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): public community, as well as, as hearing this committee and stuff. I feel… I feel this is a reasonable change we should, we should support. So basically, we're… we're bringing… 792 01:34:34.140 --> 01:34:35.250 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Safe Route. 793 01:34:36.080 --> 01:34:38.330 Quinlan Conference Room: From 20 to 10. 794 01:34:38.420 --> 01:34:43.640 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Correct. We're adding… We're making high injury network from 20 to 30. Correct. 795 01:34:44.700 --> 01:34:47.200 Quinlan Conference Room: So we're just taking 10, shifting from… yep. 796 01:34:47.200 --> 01:34:49.890 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yep. And then the mod… The full overall. 797 01:34:49.895 --> 01:34:50.924 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Max is gonna remain. 798 01:34:50.925 --> 01:34:54.175 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): It's gonna remain the same, yeah. 799 01:34:54.810 --> 01:34:56.230 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, and now… 800 01:34:56.920 --> 01:35:01.959 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): The only other thing I would add is I would like to see the Foothole Boulevard be 801 01:35:02.420 --> 01:35:12.109 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): I know it's not in the high-injury Network right now in Vision Zero, but because of those recent deaths, we should possibly add that to that additional high-injury network. 802 01:35:12.115 --> 01:35:27.605 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): up many, many times as well in comments, so I don't know if it's… it is somewhere spread throughout there in sub-projects, I've seen some in there, but it may not be as prominent, so maybe the scoring change will make it more visible, I don't know. Well, that would put it… 803 01:35:27.875 --> 01:35:31.864 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): We'd get to 30 points, then, you know, because right now, the sidewalks are… 804 01:35:32.085 --> 01:35:39.114 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): very poorly ranked around Foothill, so this would be… this would be under the sidewalk criteria. But this is a… this is a. 805 01:35:39.115 --> 01:35:43.635 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): scoring criteria, it'll be very hard for you to check the project I'm scoring. 806 01:35:43.635 --> 01:35:44.374 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): No, we're not gonna… 807 01:35:44.380 --> 01:35:45.510 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's our face. 808 01:35:45.855 --> 01:35:52.614 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): We should rely on whatever the scoring is here, and, also then look at it and. 809 01:35:52.805 --> 01:35:58.594 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, we can't go pick where certain accidents have happened and throw those at the top. 810 01:35:58.595 --> 01:36:02.375 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, instead, that could become a separate project, like, Council might. 811 01:36:02.375 --> 01:36:05.504 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right, we can do the project anywhere, yeah. 812 01:36:07.480 --> 01:36:11.910 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I think there's no specific action on this one here. I think, to me, those are the two… 813 01:36:13.280 --> 01:36:17.159 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): The two specific items. Anything else that we should do? 814 01:36:18.400 --> 01:36:19.219 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): voting on? 815 01:36:19.640 --> 01:36:23.470 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): The only other thing I would consider is the fact that some of these big projects 816 01:36:24.730 --> 01:36:32.890 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Some of these big projects are well- funded outside, you know, not from the community, but from outside the community. How do we account for that? Because… 817 01:36:33.050 --> 01:36:35.900 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): If it's a $3 million project, it gets dinged. 818 01:36:36.100 --> 01:36:39.540 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): But at the same time, you might get $2.5 million. 819 01:36:39.730 --> 01:36:44.290 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): from, Measure B funds, but the operational keyword is. 820 01:36:44.295 --> 01:36:48.025 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): we might get, and I think that's what… we don't know, we have no idea at this point. 821 01:36:48.125 --> 01:36:48.865 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): But you… 822 01:36:48.870 --> 01:36:53.189 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): So if we might need, then that criteria should be removed, because we still don't… 823 01:36:53.195 --> 01:37:00.894 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): the reality is, if nobody else steps in, and we want to do it, we foot the bill as Filipino. But historically speaking. 824 01:37:00.900 --> 01:37:05.150 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Again, I think, spent pretty good money behind a lot of its projects. 825 01:37:05.155 --> 01:37:11.025 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): So I think, you know, my take on that is, you know, yes, budget is a conservation, money is not infinite figured purposes. 826 01:37:11.035 --> 01:37:29.064 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): But if there is… someone comes along and says, you know, hey, I'll fund this project as far up in the list, I'll pay the whole bill, you know, all of a sudden it becomes a $0 project for us, great, it moves up. Great. So… so I think, you know, those things can come to the Council, and then they could come to the bike commission, get addressed. 827 01:37:33.120 --> 01:37:36.539 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): All right. Anything else? Yeah, let's… 828 01:37:36.745 --> 01:37:48.554 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): wondering, like, you know, if we… at least… I know that we didn't have a consensus on making this a concrete proposal, but we want to at least make it as a recommendation so City Council can have a look at it? 829 01:37:48.555 --> 01:37:56.055 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a reasonable question. Again, I wouldn't make it as part of the plan for the reasons we talked about. Yeah. 830 01:37:56.055 --> 01:37:57.575 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): recommendation. 831 01:37:57.575 --> 01:38:07.795 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): as part of a future, enhancement or, or improvement. We, we recommend that the projects will be clustered, and, 832 01:38:08.665 --> 01:38:14.514 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Cluster, I really don't know. I think this is almost an annual project. I mean, this is coming back to us. 833 01:38:14.515 --> 01:38:17.514 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): And by the way, something that… it's an SSL that's been. 834 01:38:17.515 --> 01:38:20.095 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): done already, because the premise of the plan was to show. 835 01:38:20.100 --> 01:38:23.510 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): is to remember the heat map that Steven. 836 01:38:23.515 --> 01:38:24.514 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Creek Boulevard and all the. 837 01:38:24.515 --> 01:38:25.895 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): This area was again. 838 01:38:25.900 --> 01:38:29.140 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Can you kind of… Corridor to prioritize. 839 01:38:29.535 --> 01:38:34.624 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): That cannot be secured, so yeah, I think it would be great to see it again in terms of, okay, this is what… 840 01:38:35.290 --> 01:38:37.719 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): the premises, and this is… 841 01:38:39.065 --> 01:38:41.804 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): We consider an annual week. 842 01:38:41.805 --> 01:38:43.004 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): Google, project planning. 843 01:38:43.005 --> 01:38:51.334 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): custom, so… Consider annual review of projects listed in the ATP. 844 01:38:54.280 --> 01:38:59.500 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't… I don't really think… I don't want to… you're right, you're right. 845 01:39:03.130 --> 01:39:03.700 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): book. 846 01:39:03.950 --> 01:39:13.810 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): clustering projects, projects, post- projects, or… I want to refer specifically to those projects here that are in the ATP projects, or something like that. 847 01:39:17.200 --> 01:39:19.080 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, great. Okay. 848 01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:28.820 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think we have a motion. Oh, actually, we don't have a motion. Do we have a motion on this? If not, then I'll move to it. 849 01:39:31.050 --> 01:39:34.749 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): And then we need a second? Yeah, hi, second. Okay. 850 01:39:35.070 --> 01:39:38.759 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Motion, you have a second. Let's do a vote, David, please. Okay. 851 01:39:38.765 --> 01:39:46.524 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): For the motion on the screen, how do you vote, Chair Eshelbeck? Yes. Vice Chair Madipatla? Yes. Commissioner Ganga? Yes. Commissioner Marcy? 852 01:39:46.655 --> 01:39:47.735 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Commissioner Wolf. 853 01:39:48.135 --> 01:39:50.514 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Motion passes unanimously. 854 01:39:50.635 --> 01:39:52.995 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Wonderful, thank you. 855 01:39:52.995 --> 01:39:56.115 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So that closes the item number. 856 01:39:57.115 --> 01:39:59.184 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Item number 3, 857 01:40:02.185 --> 01:40:08.085 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): And this is probably going to be a fairly quick, the next one, I would assume. So let's. 858 01:40:08.085 --> 01:40:10.445 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's because you know, too long. 859 01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:28.589 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Let's, let's do, add another three as well, which is about 4 Avenue Town Center Lane Pedestrian Crossing Park, which is a project we've discussed before its Commission, and I'm asking, President to give us to walk us through it. 860 01:40:28.940 --> 01:40:35.260 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Good evening, Chair and Commissioners. I'm presenting the item number 3, the Tour Revenue, 861 01:40:35.260 --> 01:40:37.149 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): town center lane pedestrian crossing. 862 01:40:38.900 --> 01:40:57.800 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): This item was previously presented to the Bicycle Pedestrian Commission on October 15, 2025. Following that meeting, staff completed a detailed field review and conducted a… collected data collection. The data collection included pedestrian calls, bicycle calls, biker calls. 863 01:40:57.800 --> 01:41:08.630 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): collision analysis for 5 years, and also speed counts. Staff has also incorporated initial feedback which we received from Commission in the development of the proposed improvements. 864 01:41:10.990 --> 01:41:24.039 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): This slide just presents the overview of the study area, the Toad Revenue Corridor. Tour Revenue Corridor is a local, low-volume local roadway, which primarily serves the residential users, commercial users. 865 01:41:24.040 --> 01:41:38.710 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, the library… the access to the town center lane, and it experienced decent pedestrian activity, regarding the library use, town center, town center lane use, and adjacent intersections for the Pacifica Drive and the Rodriguez. 866 01:41:40.810 --> 01:41:56.930 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): This slide shows the location of the existing traffic calls, which were conducted on Torrevenue. We did, 7-day tube calls, tube counts to capture volume and speed, at these two locations, this one and this one. 867 01:41:57.470 --> 01:42:09.420 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Where the car symbol is shown. And we did, video calls, to capture the Palestinian bike data, at four locations. These are the four locations. 868 01:42:09.420 --> 01:42:23.240 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And the tube counts were done in the week of November 17th, and the pedestrian bicycle cons were done on Tuesday, November 18th, Wednesday, November 19th, and Saturday, November 22nd. 869 01:42:25.070 --> 01:42:42.540 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): This slide summarizes the existing traffic counts on Tory Avenue. Based upon the data, there were about 1,200 cars traveling in the northbound direction on Tory Avenue, and the observed 85th percentile speed was 23 miles per hour. 870 01:42:42.620 --> 01:42:46.960 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And in the southbound direction, there were about 1,400 vehicles, and the… 871 01:42:47.220 --> 01:42:49.670 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Percentile speed was 22 miles per hour. 872 01:42:49.770 --> 01:42:54.540 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, both these counts are the average of the 7-day cons. 873 01:42:55.300 --> 01:43:10.560 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Regarding the pedestrian data, the pedestrian data was moderate. There were about 534 pedestrians crossing the library driveway in the 16-hour span. That is from morning 6 AM to 10 p.m. 874 01:43:10.560 --> 01:43:26.520 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, there were about, at the intersection of Door Avenue and Town Center Lane, there were about 320 vehicles crossing here, and, sorry, pedestrian crossing here, and 258 pedestrians crossing on the north leg of the intersection. 875 01:43:27.860 --> 01:43:41.149 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, between, Library Driveway and Town Center Lane, there were about 200 people crossing Torrevenue, which is basically the Jaywalkers. And all these counts are for 16-hour counts, and they're the average of the 3-day counts. 876 01:43:41.350 --> 01:43:52.870 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And regarding the bicycle data, there were only 24 bicyclists passing through this intersection in the 16-hour span, and only 16 riders passing through this intersection in the 16-hour span. 877 01:43:57.460 --> 01:44:00.170 Quinlan Conference Room: This slide shows the speed distribution. 878 01:44:00.170 --> 01:44:02.059 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): On tour revenue. 879 01:44:02.580 --> 01:44:21.040 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): On this chart, the exact… on the x- axis, it shows the speed range, range of the speed in miles per hour. On y-axis, it shows the total number of vehicles recorded at a certain speed range during the count period. So this chart is for the speed distribution on Tory Avenue, north of Pacifica Drive. 880 01:44:21.040 --> 01:44:24.140 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And you can clearly see the majority of the vehicles 881 01:44:24.140 --> 01:44:40.880 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): were traveling in the speed range of 25 miles per hour in both northbound and southbound direction, Ontario Venue north of Pacifica Drive, and very few vehicles were traveling within the speed range of 25 to 30 miles per hour, and very, very few between 30 to 40 miles per hour. 882 01:44:41.050 --> 01:44:51.089 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, this speed chart is for, Count Santori Venue, north of, Town Center Lane. 883 01:44:52.140 --> 01:45:06.139 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Based upon this chart, you can see majority of the vehicles were, traveling in the speed range of 10 to 25 miles per hour, and very few between 25 to 30, and very, very few between 30 to 40. 884 01:45:06.150 --> 01:45:17.109 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And the same data is presented in the tabular format here below, and you can clearly see there were about 80 vehicles in the northbound direction, and 40 vehicles in the southbound direction. 885 01:45:17.110 --> 01:45:28.099 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): were traveling between 25 to 30 miles per hour on Torrey Avenue, north of Pacifica Drive, and very few, like, 4 vehicles were above 30, and 2 vehicles were above 30. 886 01:45:28.100 --> 01:45:47.190 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): on Tory Avenue north of Pacifica Drive. And similarly, for the Toria Venue north of town centerline, there were very… 49 vehicles in the northbound, and 67 vehicles in the southbound, within the speed range of 25 to 30, and very minimal between 30 and 40. So, speeding… 887 01:45:47.190 --> 01:45:51.599 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Based upon the data which we collected, there was not much speeding observed onto revenue. 888 01:45:52.060 --> 01:45:53.890 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Pretty much there's nothing wrong with. 889 01:45:53.895 --> 01:45:58.924 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Could be going south? Where they seem to be in a rush. 890 01:45:58.930 --> 01:46:11.690 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Southbound, I think, after the Tory Avenue, they go towards the Pacifica Drive, so I think it's, like, a more, like, a flat, like a straight row, a straight stretch, and not much… that's what I feel. 891 01:46:12.290 --> 01:46:17.959 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Did you also look at the intersection? Any study on the intersection at Toria and Pacifica? 892 01:46:17.960 --> 01:46:33.950 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): pedestrian counts, we are… we did only ADT counts. We didn't do any turning movement counts at the… and based upon this, it would be… as we said, the north… in the northbound direction, there are only 1,200, so there… it's… and this is also 24 hours data, so even in the peak hour, it would be very less. 893 01:46:34.190 --> 01:46:37.310 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Based upon the ADT. But what's a… 894 01:46:37.550 --> 01:46:39.880 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): Actual official speed limit on that is. 895 01:46:40.360 --> 01:46:41.560 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): The official definition. 896 01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:42.740 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): I might as well. 897 01:46:43.910 --> 01:46:47.570 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): The existing speed limit on tour revenue is 25 miles per hour. 898 01:46:47.575 --> 01:46:51.655 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right, so your average is, you know, 22, right? Yes, the 82%. 899 01:46:51.655 --> 01:46:54.505 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): speedy? Yeah. 900 01:46:54.505 --> 01:47:04.054 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): you know, we should focus on, you know, people that are above 25. Like, you know, so how many people are above 25 out of that, you know, what percentage of class? 901 01:47:04.055 --> 01:47:12.784 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): An 85th percentile of 22 is very slow for a 25 mile nurse. Generally, you get 27, 28 months. Oh, perfect. 902 01:47:12.985 --> 01:47:13.795 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thank you. 903 01:47:13.795 --> 01:47:22.094 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, the guys on the 30 and 40 range, Their license should be taken. 904 01:47:22.095 --> 01:47:34.894 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): You know, propose some improvement plan there. So, this slide shows the recorded collision, between year 2020 and 2025 on… near… on the Tory Way intersections. 905 01:47:34.895 --> 01:47:49.335 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): within the study area, which are the Tour Avenue and Pacifica Drail, Tour Revenue and Town Center Lane, Tory Avenue and Rodriguez Avenue. So, at the intersection of Tory Avenue and Pacifica Rail, there were only 3 total collisions in last 5 years. 906 01:47:49.335 --> 01:48:06.914 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): out of which 2 were property damage only, and one was injury collision. And at the intersection of Tory Avenue and Town Center Lake, there were only 3 total collisions in the last 5 years, which all of them were property damage only. And for the intersection of Tory Avenue and Rodriguez, there were total 5 intersections. 907 01:48:06.915 --> 01:48:10.895 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): 4… out of which four were property damage, and 1 was injury collision. 908 01:48:13.385 --> 01:48:30.884 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Regarding the proposed improvements, this slide shows the proposed improvements at the intersection of Torre Avenue and Rodriguez. So, staff is proposing to refresh the existing payment sliping and traffic legions at the Torre Avenue and Rodriguez intersection, because from the picture, you can clearly see 909 01:48:30.885 --> 01:48:47.184 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Most of the intersection… most of the striping and the traffic lesions are a little bit faded, and there are cracks in the pavement. So, by refreshing the payment striping and traffic lesion, it will include the clarity. We can… it will enhance the intersection visibility, especially during the low-life conditions. 910 01:48:47.215 --> 01:49:05.424 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And also, staff proposes to install the red signpost reflectors at the stop signpost, so for the intersection of Rodriguez Avenue, Tower Avenue, and also for the Library Drive and Tour Avenue, and Pasada Drive and Tour Avenue. So by… from the picture here, you can clearly see, if you install the red signpost reflectors. 911 01:49:05.435 --> 01:49:15.495 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): it will significantly improve the visibility of the stop sign during… especially during the nighttime. So it will be very… it will enhance the, visibility of the stop signs. 912 01:49:15.860 --> 01:49:19.759 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Do you have any of these in Cupertino currently? We have a couple of intersections, yeah. 913 01:49:20.830 --> 01:49:24.780 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, Blaney… I remember Blaney and Stellen. 914 01:49:25.210 --> 01:49:30.180 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): on that corridor, we have a couple of places there. We have this kind of straightway. Yeah, a couple of them, yeah. 915 01:49:31.640 --> 01:49:46.039 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, this slide shows the proposed improvements at the intersection of Tory Avenue and Town Center Lane. Staff is proposing to install plastic boards, the reflective plastic bullets in front of the library book drop-off, to physically restrict U- turn movements. 916 01:49:46.040 --> 01:49:56.230 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Which is a problem there. And, see, if you install a bollard here at this location, so people who want to make a U-turn, it will be very tough for them to make a U-turn. 917 01:49:56.260 --> 01:50:12.710 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And, staff is also proposing to install a reflective plastic bullet at the northwest corner of Torrey Avenue and Town Center Lane to support a smoother turn and pedestrian refuge… it will create a pedestrian refuge space also. So, if we install a plastic bullard at this location, it will accommodate a smoother turn. 918 01:50:12.710 --> 01:50:18.329 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): For the vehicle turn, one who wants to take a right turn from Tour Avenue onto Tour Center Lane. 919 01:50:18.330 --> 01:50:27.179 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): town center lane, and also this will create a pedestrian refuge space. Yeah. So it will enhance the pedestrian safety, and also terminating conflicts will be reduced. 920 01:50:27.710 --> 01:50:29.349 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): You're all the partners. 921 01:50:29.355 --> 01:50:36.835 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): spots next to the box, to the level we turn… Keep watching. Keep watching. 922 01:50:36.835 --> 01:50:50.095 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): If we're missing, then we can add another improvement, so no worries. And also, at the same intersection, we also want to install a reflective plastic bullets at the southwest corner, also. 923 01:50:50.095 --> 01:51:05.155 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): That will also, that will bring this, that will accommodate smooth right turn from Town Center Lane onto the Tory Avenue, and it will also create a pedestrian refuge space here. And also, staff is, proposing to 924 01:51:05.155 --> 01:51:17.585 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): extend the red curve at the southeast corner of Torrey Avenue and Toll Center Lane to improve the visibility of pedestrian crossing Torrey Avenue. So, in this picture, you can clearly see there is an existing red curve at this location. 925 01:51:17.585 --> 01:51:29.405 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): This is approximately about 12 feet, so we want to extend more 24 feet, which will result in losing this parking spot, but it will enhance the pedestrian visibility at this corner, especially for the southbound traffic. 926 01:51:29.415 --> 01:51:32.475 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll, I'll… can you stay on this for a second? 927 01:51:32.480 --> 01:51:44.150 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): To me, you know, of all the improvements, this is the most important one, and I'll tell you why. I've seen a lot of kids skating and, you know, and rollerblading and come full speed down this. 928 01:51:44.250 --> 01:51:54.209 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): And there is a car parked here. If it's an SUV, car coming in this direction has no visibility to know that kid coming up. I've seen that many, many times. 929 01:51:54.270 --> 01:52:09.520 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right? My heart, you know, kind of stops, you know, when I see that, right? Like, because this is just an accident waiting to happen, right? Because library is, you know, full of kids, and they just, you know, come rollerblading and, you know, skateboarding and all that, and they do that, so… 930 01:52:09.520 --> 01:52:20.739 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): This is the… right? I'm happy, you know, we are doing this, right? So, I'll go one step further, and if there is a pedestrian start here and, you know, on that side, I would say, you know, elevate. 931 01:52:20.820 --> 01:52:30.299 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): like, you know, almost like a speed bomb. It's an elevated, you know, pedestrian crossing, so that way, nobody's speeding through. All those people that we saw, you know, 30, 40 mile speed. 932 01:52:30.490 --> 01:52:31.620 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): That don't happen. 933 01:52:31.970 --> 01:52:34.550 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): elevate history, right? I was thinking, you know. 934 01:52:34.720 --> 01:52:53.230 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Either that, or, you know, cut off the through traffic, you know, both ends, because we saw a lot of people, you know, jaywalking anyway, right? So this is… we can be, like, you know, a walking corridor, so just cut off, you know, both ends, so that, you know, no through traffic at all. That's a radical suggestion, just a thought. 935 01:52:54.170 --> 01:52:55.090 Quinlan Conference Room: Thank you. 936 01:52:56.480 --> 01:53:15.559 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): But this slide just shows the same improvements which we just discussed on a plan view. So, installing plastic bullets at this location will restrict the U-turn at this location, and also by installing plastic bullets at this location will accommodate a smoother right turn. 937 01:53:15.560 --> 01:53:20.530 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): from Torre Avenue to the town center lane, and also it will create a pedestrian refuge space. 938 01:53:20.540 --> 01:53:29.530 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And also, same thing happening at this corner, and also by installing the red car at this location will improve the pedestrian visibility at this location. 939 01:53:30.300 --> 01:53:34.730 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Is there any striking you can do as well on those pedestrian islands? 940 01:53:34.730 --> 01:53:36.789 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): more clear, because I think that's… 941 01:53:36.795 --> 01:53:51.015 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): a big part of the problem as well, is that they're currently open zone, and I think the ballads are great, but is there a way to also use initial paint or striping board to mark those islands and as refuge islands to… 942 01:53:51.015 --> 01:53:52.025 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Like, Jeff. 943 01:53:52.025 --> 01:54:00.774 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Generally, the surface here is kind of made a bit of a different brick surface. Yeah, you know, how much the thermo… 944 01:54:00.775 --> 01:54:09.975 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Striping, there's a couple things. One, the striping wouldn't really stick, and the pedestrian activity is a little bit… 945 01:54:10.835 --> 01:54:21.274 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): There's no… especially on the west side, it's a little diffused in terms of where the pedestrians are coming from, so it's not like they're all channeled to one location across… 946 01:54:21.815 --> 01:54:30.124 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And so it's… it's… providing the crosswalk is challenging for those two… those two aspects, so… 947 01:54:30.130 --> 01:54:32.570 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): just a crosswalk. I just meant… 948 01:54:32.740 --> 01:54:35.350 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Go back to the previous slide here, phenomenal. 949 01:54:37.020 --> 01:54:49.269 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I meant to mark those areas specifically, those two areas. Those are the traffic buttons. Mark them somehow so the pedestrians know this is a safe place to be. Oh, to stripe, yeah. The area within the bar, so… 950 01:54:49.450 --> 01:54:51.969 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): This is essentially your area. 951 01:54:51.975 --> 01:54:54.975 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): the same boarding space. You're safe? Yeah. 952 01:54:54.975 --> 01:54:57.935 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, we can, we can see what… 953 01:54:57.935 --> 01:54:58.985 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): forward to me, this is. 954 01:54:58.985 --> 01:55:00.635 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): specifically at the front. 955 01:55:01.105 --> 01:55:06.205 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Is there a part… I mean, last time we discussed about removing that, drop-off 956 01:55:06.925 --> 01:55:09.974 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Library book drop-off, how much it's getting used? 957 01:55:09.980 --> 01:55:11.029 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Oh, shit. 958 01:55:11.230 --> 01:55:12.090 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, that I… 959 01:55:12.095 --> 01:55:17.245 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't have that information. It might be challenging to remove it. 960 01:55:17.525 --> 01:55:22.985 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): But I, I just put it in, yeah, 5 years ago. So, so I… 961 01:55:23.450 --> 01:55:26.399 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): In fact, there's a way we can elevate 962 01:55:26.680 --> 01:55:31.689 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): this and this, making it like a speed bomb. Yeah, we probably wouldn't… 963 01:55:32.810 --> 01:55:40.040 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): recommend that at this time. Just because, you know, there really isn't a speeding problem. 964 01:55:40.430 --> 01:55:50.070 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): And there are other streets, honestly, where there's greater speeding that, you know, because people are really, you know, 22 miles an hour, and that's pretty consistent. No, that's the average. 965 01:55:50.075 --> 01:55:51.575 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well, that's 85th percentile. 966 01:55:51.575 --> 01:55:59.835 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so 65% of people are going under 20, which is, again, that's really slow for an industry. 967 01:55:59.835 --> 01:56:10.795 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): problems. You don't quite know where the road traffic starts and where the pedestrian safety areas, and I think those ballots would help, make this a little bit more explicit. We can't have the… 968 01:56:10.820 --> 01:56:27.850 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, on this, we have… you see this, the one where I'm pointing? Here are kind of the in-street signs. It says that yield to the pedestrians, which kind of helps to slow down the traffic at this intersection, and they're kind of very helpful. They really slow down. Yeah. 969 01:56:27.850 --> 01:56:31.950 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): We also have, like, the speed… 970 01:56:32.910 --> 01:56:34.910 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): Muted. Muted, yeah. 971 01:56:34.910 --> 01:56:40.320 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, let's look at the data. There's no speed problem. 972 01:56:40.325 --> 01:56:40.905 Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conference Room): No, I saw that. 973 01:56:40.905 --> 01:56:48.385 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): there's some numbers about 30, 40. I work, right? 974 01:56:48.385 --> 01:56:49.145 Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conference Room): Every, every… 975 01:56:49.890 --> 01:56:51.020 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): I'll answer in the next slide. 976 01:56:51.020 --> 01:57:07.239 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): This is what I wanted to say regarding speeding. Okay, yeah. So, we want to deploy a speed trailer, which will be a… this will be a temporary one, on tour revenue for one or two weeks, just displaying how much fast they are going, and after that, maybe we can coordinate with the sheriff 977 01:57:07.240 --> 01:57:16.439 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): office to request targeting speed enforcement, so who are now speeding, they have to pay for it. Like, we can request, we always request near the school areas. 978 01:57:16.440 --> 01:57:19.919 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, there will be a motorcycle sheriff. 979 01:57:19.925 --> 01:57:35.124 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): this helps, because not a temporary one, I'm talking about a permanent one, because in this day and age, you know, with the LP cars and all that, you don't even realize how fast you're going until you see it. That thing flashing on your face, you're like, you know, damn it, I need to slow down. 980 01:57:35.675 --> 01:57:42.275 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): So this is one of the, improvements to tackle the speed for that low… low… low people who are speeding there. 981 01:57:43.095 --> 01:57:59.065 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): And this slide shows the proposed improvement at the intersection of Torrey Avenue and Pacifica Drive. Our staff is proposing to install a rapid rectangular flashing beacon at the intersection of Torre Avenue and Pacifica Drive, crossing the Pacifica Drive. 982 01:57:59.555 --> 01:58:00.295 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): and they're pressing. 983 01:58:00.300 --> 01:58:05.530 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): a button that flashes, right? So, the working flashes are just those two small lights. 984 01:58:05.535 --> 01:58:10.794 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): If you see the whole, the two small lines. The two small lines. 985 01:58:10.795 --> 01:58:13.055 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): like, you know, disrupting the flash. 986 01:58:13.055 --> 01:58:15.585 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Look at that. Okay, regardless, I… 987 01:58:15.590 --> 01:58:23.509 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): We have this, you know, where I live, and, you know, that's helpful, but it could be a lot more helpful knowing this worldly flash. Thank you, Buni, yeah, I agree. 988 01:58:23.515 --> 01:58:24.275 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): that, yeah. 989 01:58:24.275 --> 01:58:25.035 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): the same, same thing. 990 01:58:25.770 --> 01:58:26.529 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): maybe? Yeah. 991 01:58:26.535 --> 01:58:27.275 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): the Rebecca. 992 01:58:27.280 --> 01:58:34.010 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): and throughout the whole city, that's, yeah, yeah. Future… future version should be improved, in a sense. 993 01:58:34.015 --> 01:58:34.864 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): They can also. 994 01:58:34.870 --> 01:58:38.559 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): How are the lights across on the pedestrian proximity? 995 01:58:38.810 --> 01:58:40.010 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Is it too much? 996 01:58:40.015 --> 01:58:43.345 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): floor. On the floor. On the ground, etc. I think, you know. 997 01:58:43.345 --> 01:58:47.585 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, we don't do those anymore. 998 01:58:47.800 --> 01:58:55.839 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): catches their eye. Go down to your face, and they're like, you know, I got a song, right? This small thing gets unnoticed sometimes. This is a good idea. 999 01:58:55.845 --> 01:59:03.545 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): The in-pavement lights are very expensive, and they're unreliable. Okay. Can we look at lighting at night? Oh, yeah. Nice. 1000 01:59:03.715 --> 01:59:04.565 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Both. 1001 01:59:04.570 --> 01:59:17.209 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): The staff also proposes to evaluate the feasibility of installing a street light at the northeast corner of Tour Avenue and Town Center. So, we'll be evaluating the feasibility of installing a streetlight at this location. 1002 01:59:17.210 --> 01:59:27.389 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): which will increase the nighttime visibility at this intersection, but it's still… we have to look into it and see the funds available and all those things to make a final call. 1003 01:59:27.395 --> 01:59:30.295 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): I would rather have this ledge here on this side. 1004 01:59:30.295 --> 01:59:37.954 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): because of this side, you have the trees, and it's much more… it's darker on this side, and it's hard to see people. Here, it's pretty open, and you. 1005 01:59:37.960 --> 01:59:40.049 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't have any trees hiding in the. 1006 01:59:40.055 --> 01:59:44.534 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): in shape, but on this side, you see, you can see them here, the other trees and stuff, so I'd rather. 1007 01:59:44.535 --> 01:59:47.534 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think we have one sitting in the room. 1008 01:59:47.535 --> 01:59:54.144 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, there's already one… Maybe in this one, it will show. See, this is… 1009 01:59:54.315 --> 02:00:00.005 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think this is the streetlight. It's a street light, the one with the sign which is there, it is already a street light. 1010 02:00:02.220 --> 02:00:05.699 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Maybe needs to be brighter. Look at it. 1011 02:00:05.705 --> 02:00:13.184 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): These are good improvements, this is what I mean by, you know, with small investments, you know, we can make a huge difference. 1012 02:00:13.185 --> 02:00:24.435 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): This kind of… most of the improvements are quick-build and cost-effective and easy to implement, so this will enhance the pedestrian safety, reduce the turning conflicts, and increase the driver awareness, so… 1013 02:00:24.645 --> 02:00:26.264 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): This movie changes the behavior. 1014 02:00:26.265 --> 02:00:32.814 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): The people that drive, they see this, you know, they're like, now, okay, I need to stop. I need to store down, right? 1015 02:00:32.820 --> 02:00:39.249 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so is there any proposal for the others behind the labor that is on the… 1016 02:00:39.880 --> 02:00:41.970 Quinlan Conference Room: There's a pedestrian walkway, where they'll… 1017 02:00:43.170 --> 02:00:48.159 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Which one? People exit and enter the library. Yeah. Here. 1018 02:00:48.165 --> 02:00:58.524 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Mostly, we'll be installing that red reflector on the stop sign. There is a stop sign at this location, especially this location, so we'll be installing that red reflector 1019 02:00:58.885 --> 02:01:00.394 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): I also wonder… 1020 02:01:05.975 --> 02:01:16.495 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): On the post. Yeah, on the post, yeah. So we'll be installing this kind of red reflector on the signpost. And even we'll do it on for the Pacifica Drive and, Toria venue also, at the situation. 1021 02:01:16.810 --> 02:01:21.749 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Because people do left turn, or who are going southbound. 1022 02:01:22.150 --> 02:01:28.299 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): into the library, where they don't necessarily see the people crossing. And similarly, on the… 1023 02:01:28.410 --> 02:01:37.640 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): other direction as well, where they are making a right turn and they don't see the people crossing. Especially in the nighttime, the visibility is poor, and people don't necessarily wear the right gloves. 1024 02:01:39.050 --> 02:01:45.630 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, there are enough red carb markings around the librarian drive, so the kind of visibility looks 1025 02:01:45.780 --> 02:01:51.140 Speaker 14 (Quinlan Conference Room): better, lot better, compared to the other locations, so we didn't do anything much. 1026 02:01:51.140 --> 02:01:53.960 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Visibility of the streetlights, okay. 1027 02:01:54.700 --> 02:02:02.300 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So we had already used time to ask for clarifying questions. Wanted to just quickly check in if there's any public comments on this topic as well. 1028 02:02:03.150 --> 02:02:10.870 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): We have no speakers, Chair. Wonderful, thank you. Any further discussion from the Commission, or any fees that anyone. 1029 02:02:10.875 --> 02:02:13.104 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): on this. Yeah, I don't believe so. 1030 02:02:13.110 --> 02:02:17.610 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, do you want to make any specific… because we had multiple suggestions, right? So… 1031 02:02:18.310 --> 02:02:23.340 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): If you want to make a motion to, I don't know, approve the staff if it approves… 1032 02:02:23.345 --> 02:02:34.544 Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, yeah, with additional improvements that we suggested right now, right? So, I think it's good to have the document. Maybe just make a… let's make a motion. 1033 02:02:34.545 --> 02:02:36.854 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): fully documented as well, I think that's a good idea. 1034 02:02:37.760 --> 02:02:40.839 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's so… I move to approve to… 1035 02:02:41.750 --> 02:02:48.539 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): the, proposed improvements to the Torrey Avenue Town Center Lane pedestrian crossing. 1036 02:02:53.610 --> 02:02:54.260 Quinlan Conference Room: Excellent. 1037 02:02:56.510 --> 02:02:58.790 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't know if they're subjecting. 1038 02:02:59.710 --> 02:03:00.540 Quinlan Conference Room: Thank you for that. 1039 02:03:01.240 --> 02:03:01.960 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): Including women. 1040 02:03:05.530 --> 02:03:07.499 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): With following recommendations? With the following. 1041 02:03:07.505 --> 02:03:11.004 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Additions, with the following recommendations. 1042 02:03:16.465 --> 02:03:25.215 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): The one I proposed was the, additional marking on… ground floor marking, within the bollards. 1043 02:03:25.555 --> 02:03:29.404 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): within the goal, it's on the… I think this is the west side, I guess. 1044 02:03:30.440 --> 02:03:32.420 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): In the pedestrian refugeland. In the, yeah, exactly. 1045 02:03:32.425 --> 02:03:38.524 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): So, yeah, additional, floor strip being on the desk members. Yeah. 1046 02:03:40.485 --> 02:03:41.725 Quinlan Conference Room: Any other… 1047 02:03:41.725 --> 02:03:45.745 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): recommendations that we should be on here? Yeah, yeah. 1048 02:03:45.750 --> 02:03:48.470 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): The flashiness, we want that to be a full… 1049 02:03:49.980 --> 02:03:52.750 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): the RFS, I think that's what… 1050 02:03:52.755 --> 02:03:55.935 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Our speed, our speed. 1051 02:03:59.340 --> 02:04:04.939 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Should be, lighting the full… the full sign, rather than just a small… 1052 02:04:05.470 --> 02:04:09.309 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): You, is there a terminology for that? Yeah. 1053 02:04:09.315 --> 02:04:12.825 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Illuminated pedestrian crossing sign. 1054 02:04:13.025 --> 02:04:18.445 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Consider illuminated pedestrian crossing off lines to supplement our RFPs. 1055 02:04:23.415 --> 02:04:24.675 Quinlan Conference Room: the moment. 1056 02:04:25.405 --> 02:04:26.485 Quinlan Conference Room: That's true. 1057 02:04:34.085 --> 02:04:39.155 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I say consider, because there are costs to all these, so I just have to make sure. 1058 02:04:39.275 --> 02:04:40.515 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Budgets allow. 1059 02:04:46.460 --> 02:04:53.079 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): We're not asking for a race table, so… Well, you were, but… 1060 02:04:56.450 --> 02:04:59.900 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Doesn't solve a problem, to be fair, then… Anything else? 1061 02:05:00.680 --> 02:05:02.610 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): You know, Commissioner Marzi. 1062 02:05:02.960 --> 02:05:04.250 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Did you have lost? 1063 02:05:04.450 --> 02:05:06.419 Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conference Room): Preference for the location of that light? 1064 02:05:06.425 --> 02:05:07.165 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): Right. 1065 02:05:07.170 --> 02:05:07.920 Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conference Room): I checked on. 1066 02:05:07.925 --> 02:05:08.664 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, so not perman. 1067 02:05:08.670 --> 02:05:14.500 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): and there is already a poll there. It's just, it's not the same poll, the same feature you had, so… 1068 02:05:14.505 --> 02:05:14.955 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Well. 1069 02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:21.440 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, it'll… the picture's just diagram. Oh, yeah. It'll be a full streetlight. 1070 02:05:21.445 --> 02:05:23.315 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): like the one that exists already. Right. 1071 02:05:23.320 --> 02:05:30.629 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): We'll make sure the other one is lighting properly. If it's… if there's a dark spot or whatever, we'll address it. Okay, and I think, yeah, to. 1072 02:05:30.630 --> 02:05:33.910 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): to Pastor's point, I think we moved the car in front of the… 1073 02:05:34.070 --> 02:05:39.780 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): crossing is gonna help. Okay, yeah. Way more than changing the light here. Okay, good. 1074 02:05:41.210 --> 02:05:41.740 Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conference Room): Nope. 1075 02:05:42.630 --> 02:05:45.490 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): All right, we have a motion, we have a second, let's do a vote. 1076 02:05:46.270 --> 02:05:48.439 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Okay, for the motion on the screen. 1077 02:05:48.870 --> 02:05:57.729 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Chair Schelbeck, how do you… Yes. Chair, Vice Chair Maripatla? Yes. Commissioner Ganga? Yes. Commissioner Marcy? Yes. Commissioner Wolf? Yes. Motion passes unanimously. 1078 02:05:58.280 --> 02:06:02.409 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): Good job. I'm just moving on to our… 1079 02:06:03.150 --> 02:06:09.940 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Next item, number 4, is our staff update and commission activity report. Do we have anything to… 1080 02:06:09.940 --> 02:06:15.150 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I, I don't. Nothing for me tonight. From commissioners? Vta. 1081 02:06:15.155 --> 02:06:15.645 Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conference Room): feedback. 1082 02:06:15.650 --> 02:06:17.920 Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conference Room): Nothing concerning opportunities. 1083 02:06:20.190 --> 02:06:21.200 Quinlan Conference Room: Okay. 1084 02:06:22.060 --> 02:06:33.000 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): That's it. We are on the future agenda setting, looking at the clock. We can either do it tonight, or we can postpone this tonight for next time. I mean, that's probably not much. 1085 02:06:33.005 --> 02:06:35.304 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I've got a pretty full list. Yeah, that's it, gotcha. 1086 02:06:35.305 --> 02:06:36.915 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): They need to make a decision. 1087 02:06:36.920 --> 02:06:37.520 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): to, 1088 02:06:37.525 --> 02:06:42.885 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I need a motion and a second for that to postpone the silence. 1089 02:06:43.135 --> 02:06:48.744 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I move to approve that we move this one to next agenda… to next meeting. 1090 02:06:49.420 --> 02:06:51.059 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): Mark and second. Yeah. 1091 02:06:51.240 --> 02:06:52.349 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): Don't ring it. 1092 02:06:52.540 --> 02:06:53.650 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): A vote of them. 1093 02:06:58.690 --> 02:07:03.270 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): The future agenda? The future agenda items, yeah, let me… we cover this on the next… 1094 02:07:04.200 --> 02:07:08.040 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Which is what we covered anyway. We'll cover it anyway, yeah. We'll cover it anyway. 1095 02:07:09.660 --> 02:07:11.609 Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conference Room): I don't know if you need a motion. Do y'all need a motion? 1096 02:07:11.610 --> 02:07:13.119 Speaker 13 (Quinlan Conference Room): Yeah, they were. 1097 02:07:13.125 --> 02:07:17.155 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): I think we're good. And let's keep that formality. So that really is, 1098 02:07:17.415 --> 02:07:24.655 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Giving me to getting to our next point. Our next meeting is March 18th. We'll be here in Finland Center as well. 1099 02:07:24.775 --> 02:07:37.854 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): And I want to take the opportunity to thank all the members of staff for supporting us tonight. Great job, as always. And I want to adjourn this meeting and… Thank you for stopping that. All right. 1100 02:07:38.265 --> 02:07:41.104 Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conference Room): Thank you, thank you. The discussions and everything. 1101 02:07:46.150 --> 02:07:47.660 Quinlan Conference Room: It was possible to do that.