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Quinlan Conf Room: Hi, everyone. Welcome to the March.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): 23rd, Arts and Culture Commission meeting.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): It is currently 6.30pm, and I call the
meeting to order.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Now I'll pass it off to John for a call.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sharon? Let me see, I don't remember if we
can do the roll call, but…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Sorry.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Commissioner Chen?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yep.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Panda?
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): For the record, Commissioner Panda is
absent. Commissioner Arora? Yes. Vice Chair Lamba?
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yes.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Chairwayne? Yes.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Alright.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Moving on to approval of minutes, the
subject is approval of the January 26, 2026 Arts and Culture Commission
meeting minutes. The recommended action is to approve
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): the minutes.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I can make the motion to approve this.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I seconded.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, we'll do a roll call vote.
Commissioner Chen?
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Handa is absent. Commissioner
Arora? Aye. Vice Chair Lambeau?
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yes?
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Caroline?
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Aye. The motion carries unanimously.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, moving on to oral communications,
this portion of the meeting is reserved for persons wishing to address
the Commission on any matter within the jurisdiction of the Commission
and not on the agenda.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Speakers are limited to 3 minutes. In most
cases, state law will prohibit the Commission from making any decisions
with respect to a matter not on the agenda. Do we have any oral
communications?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Nope.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Moving on to written communications. Do we
have any?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, seeing as there is no old
business, moving right along to new business.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Agenda item number 2, subject,
Architectural and Site Approval, ASA 2026.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): 5?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): to consider a public art installation for
Bianchi Way Townhomes. Applicant, Mr. Leon Hu, property owner, location
170, 172, 174, 176, and 178 Bianchi Way.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Apn 35907021. Recommended action?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Staff recommends that the Art and Culture
Commission approve the public art application for Bianfi Way townhomes
subject to conditions of the draft resolution.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Now I hand it over to Scott. Yeah, thank
you, Cher Long.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let me introduce Daniel Konda. She's an
associate planner in the Community Development Department.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): She has been the project manager for the
Bianchi Townhome development since they came in
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): a number of years ago. She will present
the staff report as written and as, as noticed, as well as going through,
the findings required, of, of, that the Commission will need to make in
order to approve or… not approve.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): the art piece. The part of this
presentation will kind of give a brief background as to the Arts and
Culture Commission's authority, in reviewing these art projects, and what
the findings are, again, and criteria, and whatnot. That being said,
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I won't… pass along to, Ms. Condit, for
her presentation.
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Quinlan Conf Room: a hook?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Great, everyone. Good evening, Chair, Vice
Chair, Commissioners, Ms.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): As stated, my name's Danielle Condet, I'm
Associate Planner here with the City of Cooper.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Super Gina.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Today, we have an architectural insight.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): approval application for the installation
of public art at the Bianfi Town Development.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): The Biaque Townhome development consists
of 7 new townhomes, dispersed within 2 buildings on site. Each townhome
is approximately 2,400 square feet.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Totaling approximately 16,800 square feet
of new construction.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And per 19148020s?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Any development of 10,000 square feet or
larger is subject to public art.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): The public art is proposed on site in the
northwest corner of the parcel, adjacent to the public sidewalk. You can
see the area circled in blue on the screen.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): The Arabesque Libra was created by Amelia
Chang. The art piece is approximately 5.5 feet, steel… stainless steel
sculpture, and it's placed on a 1.5 foot concrete pedestal.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it was located within the landscaping
of the buildings under its setback.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): The Arabesque Libra is a sculpture piece,
and is considered consistent with 19148030 permitted artwork forms in
Hubertino.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): What is not considered artwork for the
public arts chapter are reproductions of origin, original works of art.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Directional or functional elements, such
as directional signage, Are objects which are mass-produced.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And landscaping and garden features that
aren't incorporated.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): The project's construction valuation is
assessed at approximately $6.3 million. 1% of the construction value
would equate to approximately $63,000. The proposed artworks, design,
fabrication, and installation have assessed
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): At a cost of approximately $65,000, the
value would imply what the standards outlined.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): 070 minimum artwork value.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): The art piece appears to meet the design
criteria outlined in 1948060. The art piece is located within
development's landscape, with a front yard setback.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And it's located in an area specifically
designated on the site plan. It's been solidified with the public access
easement that's been reported on the final map.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): The art piece is visible from the public
street to both motorists and pedestrians, and is fabricated from
stainless steel, a durable, long-lasting material.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, with that, staff recommends that the
mission approve the public art application, subject to the conditions of
the draft resolutions. And we do have a presentation from our applicant
team. I'll go ahead and get her presentation up on the screen.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): If I may, Ms. Pondit, does the Commission
have any questions at this point for staff as to the process?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Dude.
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Quinlan Conf Room: The ordinance or anything?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, so I think this will be our first,
public art review with the…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): current commission members. So, please,
anyone, if you have any clarifying questions, Be sure.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Sorry, I have a clarifying question, but
maybe I spoke over somebody.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Vice Chair, go ahead. We can go around the
room.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Okay, thank you. So one, one question, for,
the developers and the city is, is there a plaque
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: next to this piece with attribution to the
artist, like the name of the piece and the artist name. Is that included
in the plan?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, through the chair, Vice Chair, I guess
this portion was…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I asked a question, if there's a question
about the process specifically. Oh, okay. Do you want to withhold your
question until the artist gives…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Presentation?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, I…
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Basically.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is, you know, is there any question about
the process, the findings?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Not necessarily about the art piece at
this point.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Got it. I'll hold off the question.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's a process question that is related to
the previous presentation. So…
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Quinlan Conf Room: Just to note down, what is the full project cost?
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Quinlan Conf Room: Paul mentioned it, but…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I heard 6.3 million. Is that correct?
Yeah. Right, so it's…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): 63,800… sorry, let me go back up here.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): It is, $6,384,385. I did give approximates
in the presentation, just to kind of round the numbers a little bit. No,
that's okay.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, 6.3 million, correct. Okay, so our
allocation is normally the 1%.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): percent? Percent.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So what the value comes out to $63,000.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): 63,000. So, the application…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Quoted $65,500 to be spent. Yeah, with
that one point.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Maybe? Yes, slightly more. Slightly more,
yeah.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm still looking at order of magnitude,
so that's how that number came, right?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, so that's, and,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Also, just to verify, you said it's
located, it's proposed to be located.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Correct, it's going to be located within
the front setback. Okay, where you show.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or with that green square.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is it possible to spend, to understand
that? Is that okay? Yeah. Okay. So, where is, Steven Spree?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): north of this, and we're, the… Much
further is north. I'm sorry, the blue circle is the north side of the
lot, so it'd be further north of that. Okay, and that is.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): a sidewalk there above on top of the
drawing? Is that the sidewalk? It is adjacent to the new public sidewalk,
correct.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, what's to the left? What street is
that? Bianchi Way. Oh, that is BMB Way. Yeah, that is the street.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So this is actually within the front of
the property.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And that location was selected based on…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): In that it's accessible from the public
right-of-way?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, that's a separate unit. Invisible
from the.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): public right away, so it meets those
design criterias.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's part of the selection and thought-
out process.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And some clarification, as you mentioned,
Danielle, that there's already an access easement On that site to allow
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Undisturbed access from the public to view
the artwork.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I just say that was in the report, then.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): The public access is made? Yeah, this is
joint. That's what refers to.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, thank you for, yes.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do we have any other questions, clarifying
questions about the material that has been presented?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): The picture showed as soon as the steel.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Seeing none, why don't we move forward
with the presentation?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's the one in the window.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Good evening, everyone.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): My name's Amelia Today, and I just want to
go over, like, a quick, brief introduction about myself before I
introduce this artwork.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I have just been graduated by a couple
years, and I graduated from Cal Poly Pomana, studying visual
communication design.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Currently, I am working at an interior
design as an interior design artist, specializing in more of the design
aspect rather than the layout aspect. And then I also work for a
construction company, work closely with them.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): to design any private commissions that
they receive for any artwork. And then… Let me introduce the artwork.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): For the title of the artwork, I titled it
Arabesque Libre. Arabesque taken from the dance term, from which I was
inspired by the dance culture here, of Arabesque, a pose where one is
typically stretched out on one leg.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): The Libre meaning free.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I wanted to also, expand past the term of
arabesque, rather than just being confined, like, typical ballet is a bit
more confined.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Arabesque also has roots in an art style,
where it's also pretty… very symmetrical, very strict.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): uniform type of style, so it's also taken
inspiration of that. I don't want to expand past
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I've also looked… taken a look at a
proposed plan for the building, where it has more modern type of aspects,
so I wanted to lean towards more of an abstract kind of look.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let's see… the work also draws from my
experience as dance and travel. I've danced here at Cupertino from… ever
since I was growing up, probably since I was 3, all the way… and I've
performed annually at the De Anza College theater.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I wanted to draw my experience and also
present that as a thanks for having brought up my passion in the arts.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): rather than representing movement
literally, the sculpture distills into elongated lines, shifting from
forms and gestures, flow, and directional energy. This sense of movement
also informs how this structure sits within Bianxi Wei as a
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): public sidewalk. It has movement there,
you'll see it often.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): It stands at 7 feet tall, and should…
around 7 feet tall should be about, like, 4 by 4 in the… at least from
what I've designed. So, it will still be public and visible from… for the
public view, but also not too…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): it doesn't stand out too much to distract
from any…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Buildings or any, important roadways
that's nearby.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): The material selected is a standard
classical stainless steel. It plays an important role in supporting,
like, the visual experience, and also the long-term performance of the
piece.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): it…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): subtle… it will create a subtle reflection
of the light, rather than a polished stainless steel, for the reason… so
it will…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): It was to not take away from the building
itself.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): But also, Bring a sense of…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): It'll reflect a sense of the surroundings,
or I… surrounding environment.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): For my background in design and
fabrication, I chose this material also because of its durability.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's classical, it's used everywhere,
something where most people understand what the material will do.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): And in terms of long-term care, the
material also allows, like, straightforward maintenance and approach.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): You will need routine cleaning with mild
soap and water, along with inspections, periodic inspections to prevent
and preserve the structure.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): The maintain… maintenance strategy is
intentionally minimal and aligns with projects' long-term care
requirements.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Provisions for ongoing maintenance are
incorporated in the overall project's budget and reflected in the CCNRs,
ensuring that the artwork remains a well-maintained permanent asset over
time.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Overall, Arabaz Libre is intended to
enhance the site by introducing moment of movement and reflection into
the building environment through its form material placements.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): And invites viewers from it from multiple
perspectives, while remaining durable, buildable, and integrated into the
surroundings.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Alright, thank you so much for the
presentation. So I guess, let's start with any clarifying questions. So
we'll go around the room.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sorry, clarifying questions, please share
now. And then after we're done with clarifying questions, then we will
move on to discussion. So, we don't need to get into this discussion,
now. Please focus on clarifying questions only.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Can we start with Vice Chair Lamba?
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: No clarifying questions, thank you. I think
it's great.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Then, Commissioner Aurora, any questions?
Yeah, I have, I think.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): minor. The base pedestal, is that also
steel? Or is that…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Under the material. I think what I've
discussed with…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): The builders is that it's probably gonna
be a stainless steel base, at least to cover, but there will be supports
inside.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, could you tell us a little bit
more about how you plan to fabricate this piece?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, so I'm working closely with the
designer, more of, like, a structural designer, from overseas, and also
we have a person over here
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): That I remain in contact with, and then I
work with them for choosing the materials. They'll send me samples for
the materials.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then I'll work with them in terms of
final structure. I'll probably also take it this way, too.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I guess, what are the names? What's the
name of the entity that would actually be doing the building?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's really finished.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah. So, yeah.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, I'm working with Pentiger
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): T-E-N Tiger Control.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Then, I guess, do you have any examples of
Structures that they've created.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't have it on hand.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I could ask for some.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's my son.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, I like.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): to know your status really late, just a.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sure. Yes, I made it with 3D, so I made it
with Blender.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I… Oh, what is it?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think some of the photos I just took
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do you know the size, actual sites.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): what I designed it for is 7 feet by 4,
yeah.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): I assure your face is strong enough to
hold those letters. That's what I'll…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): in discussion for, so they'll probably do,
I believe, if I remember correctly, like, a structure on… into the…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sunk into the floor with a covering that
surrounds the actual structure for support.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): That looks small, and also you need some
seconds around the base, right? Maybe not enough space. And also, it's
for dancer, right? Yes, that just… maybe you intend to do the dancer to
look too short. Maybe you want to be in that little… I did want to go.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): a bit more… I did want to go a bit more
abstract.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): How long will it take to complete the
design?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Current time frame… You mean designing the
artwork, or the actual sculpture? The actual sculpture?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): leave 2 to 3 months, I think.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): As a starting organization.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Not yet. Okay. And how much for cost is
estimated for that?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): As mentioned the budgeting, how much price
is, suggested?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): invoice. Or the entire thing was, like,
$63,000, right?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Awesome. And then I do have a breakdown.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, I haven't pulled up yet.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So the artwork design is listed as
$12,000. The artwork fabrication is listed as $39,000. Installation is
listed as $14,500.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, total of around… 65… 1,500.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Chairman Wang, I do have a clarifying
question, my apologies.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Please, go ahead.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So Amelia, you know, the lower portion,
that's, like, maybe the left leg abstracted.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yeah. How high, approximately, is that?
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Tip of the… foot.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Sorry, the tip, the pointed tip.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Probably around, like, 4 feet, I'm
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yeah.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, the reason for my question was…
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I want to make sure there's, you know,
there's some safety there.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Because it's kind of pointed, and… A little
low.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: If somebody runs into it.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Have you thought about that? Maybe have some
space around the sculpture when it's installed?
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So that one doesn't walk into it.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I could adjust the sculpture a bit.
I could, I think…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I haven't given too much thought on that,
so…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think what I could do, I could
accommodate half by raising it a bit, I also probably need to strengthen
the base, so that would probably increase the height a bit more than what
it's currently displayed as.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yeah, something to think about to make sure
that it's not a safety issue, given it's a little pointy. You could even
curb it in a little bit, but I'm gonna not…
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: give suggestions, I'm not an expert in that.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: But do consider that in the installation
part.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll take that into consideration. Thank
you.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): One thing to clarify, what is the…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Content that you intend to put on the
base.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): The phone…
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Quinlan Conf Room: I don't have any…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): specific thing in mind, probably just,
like, something like Artist Name, and then public… ArtPse's name?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Maybe a simple debrief, but I don't really
have anything by any mind at the moment.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: If I may, I would encourage you to put your
name on it. Artist attribution is very important.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Follow-up question.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Maybe just for the staff, what is the
timeline for the project itself?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): On the town halls?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Town halls?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Moved.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, building permits have been issued, but
actually, Mr. Leon, a more in-depth knowledge on where you are on…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): finishing the project, is there an
estimated timeline on… Estimating…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Completion, property… By August, at the
latest, there was the 10th. Right now.
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Quinlan Conf Room: We are, right, round.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Around that time, yeah, yeah. So, thank
you. And so, the…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): two to three months that just mentioned
for the RB, that's… Right or wrong now.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right? We are in, yeah, March, April, May,
June, so you have… we have some time. But, you know, it takes time, you
know, for us to order the.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): material. Yes. Yes, and shipping, you
know, it takes forever. Logistics is not very smooth right now.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Wow.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, you know, I appreciate, you know, can
give us a comment. Yes. So we can get, any correction, if necessary. Yes.
So we can, you know, make sure our thing, you know, installed securely.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): With the concrete base, you know, was just
so,
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): still part to the grant, for those
installation in the delivery schedule. Yeah. Also, all the…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Very much so. Yeah, thank you. A question
for Steph.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Can you remind us, is there a requirement,
or what are the implications of
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): the art piece being completed, and when
the property can be, I guess, officially opened. Like, is there a
requirement that the art piece needs to be installed and completed before
the, the project is.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, similar to Westport and any other
project that has on-site art pieces, that the final occupancy of the last
unit is subject to the completion of the art pieces. Okay.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): You take a pretty liberal interpretation
on that, just accompanying for delays.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, any other clarifying questions from
the Commission?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, I might have missed.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is the location of this, destination
decided in the area?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): In the corner of the box.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): We can scientific intense.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm thinking of the… Are you sitting
asleep.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): admissions.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, it's located off of Bianca Way, the
street itself, and it's located in the northwest corner, which if you
were to continue going north up past the blue circle, that would be
Stevens Creek Boulevard.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, seeing no other questions, I'd like
to, close clarifying questions, and now open for public comment. Do we
have any public comments?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have no speakers, Chair.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): All right, I have one.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): more questions. I think the final review
together with any nominations on the base, and what's the base material?
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Secondly, you cannot make us do it.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Has to be some kind of stone, marble,
going down, somehow, your daughter to show that together with your
statues.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have to reveal together. Yes, yeah.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll take any suggestions.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, yeah, we have to review together.
See, I just did today the landmark with everything. Yes.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's to be copious.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. Yeah, I… before we go into
discussions, I also want to thank you, Amelia and Leon, for being here
today. Thank you so much for the presentation. It's not every day that we
get to actually meet the artists, creating the work, that we are
reviewing, so thank you so much for being here, and thank you for sharing
your work with us.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you guys for your time. Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, now I'd like to open it up for a
discussion amongst the commissioners, limited to the scope of the item.
Let's go one at a time. I'll go in the same order as before. So, Vice
Chair, do you have any comments, that you'd like to share?
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I think it's a beautiful piece.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: It's consistent with a few other, steel,
public art on Stevens Creek. If you just drive down.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: But it's unique enough that it makes, an
impact.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: When Amelia walked us through
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: What's really… this thing is an abstraction
of, it really pops.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And hence my… In my opinion, that we should
ensure that the name of the art piece
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And the artist is always visible close by.
When you say arabesque, people who know dance get it right away.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, thank you.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Back to you, Chairman Wang.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. Commissioner Laura, any comments?
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I also want to really appreciate, the
staff.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): In collaboration, with the building team
and the artists for bringing this proposal,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's, I also really want to commend that
we have, as we say, a local artist that was part of our… probably even a
written requirement, definitely an intended
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): desire to have a local artist when we are
doing public art pieces, in Cupertino, so I'm very happy about that.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you for sharing that introduction.
What you shared about the sculpture itself, is also really inspiring, but
also quite evident, so the libre I like very much.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I could see it's a dancer, so I love art
that can come very commonly given to just the public, and so…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And you said very rightly, arts and
culture and dance and music is a very strong part of our community, and
it's… we really enjoy and appreciate, so it's a really good
representation, also, of our…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): community around. The one question I have,
I know, YSHR Lam also alluded a little bit to it.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I was wondering, in terms of safety point
of view, how sharp are those edges, more for the younger
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think for Adele that was concerned, but…
Yeah. I don't… I don't know how sharp that is, and even…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And normally we… I'm going to start. Is
it, our public art pieces, they should be okay to touch, right?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Through the public, or are they secured?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, how are.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think most of the art pieces that I've
seen are, you know, some of them kids climb on them. I mean, they're very
interactive. Yeah, yes, yes.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's what…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Exactly. So, to also the Vice Chair's
point, in general, it needs to be super safe,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And that's the sharp, something that just
got me concerned.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or even hands. Children are so innocent,
they do anything. I wouldn't, but they would.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): You may have already thought of it, and
this is just a drawing, or a 3D, but you may have already thought of it.
Is there something that you don't do? Yeah.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think, as I've brought up earlier with,
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): the Vice Chair's question earlier, I think
we'll probably raise the height of the limbs a bit, or the abstract
limbs. And then also, yeah, so it is a bit sharp. Realistically, it's
probably going to be a bit rounder than what I signed.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): while still, obviously, conveying your
artistic, you know, creativity, we… it's not fair to comment on that, and
we are only commenting on the… on the public safety point of view, and
okay.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, and I had one more, if I may.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): You did mention it is not,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): shiny steel, or that's some word you use,
maybe, which is good. Still, my question is, is there any, is it… will it
have strong… strong reflection on sunny days, on very bright days?
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I feel like steel is, I think, is always
bound to have some reflection, especially if there is going to be any
sharper corners. You'll probably see a bit.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): But the brushed steel is… Brush steel,
yes. Brushed steel is… the purpose of it is just to tone down the
reflectiveness by… Okay, okay.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, because I'm sure you…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We're dealing with material choices based
on a lot of this, so our question may be relent, but I have to ask. I've
already thought of it, so… but I just wanted to ask, it just occurred to
me that… but I think, as you said, brushed steel, that gives it a…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): more calm finish, yeah. Okay, thank you.
That was it, Chef. Sure, sure.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Goodbye, Commissioner.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Chan, any discussion points?
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Appreciate any local artists.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): to develop the artwork to our community. I
really appreciate it.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I was just curious, because this is such a
beautiful, and I appreciate local, but how was it selected? I might be
ignorant. I would like to know that what was the contest, how was it
selected, and why did we choose this art piece? It's just a curiosity.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): it was, yeah, it was a lot inspired by my
background in Korean… my connection to Latino art. I did go through
several drafts going more abstract.
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): But I felt like having too much of an
abstract piece.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): My question is, like, how was it open to
the public, and how was this, as an artist, as an art piece, where was
the pool, and how was it selected from the pool? Maybe I'm not aware, so
I would like to know how was it open to the public, and how was it
selected? In…
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): as an artist, as myself, or…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or for the developer.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Well, first of all, you know.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): I saw some of his, artwork.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): And also, you know, you know,
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): make some interior design for me, which
is, you know, very impressive. That's why I should…
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's on our piece. Boom.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, is it open to, public for any other,
applications? Thank you.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): And by its great, amazing, it's a very
nice, good…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I was figuring a very valid question.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, I'm going to go back to the staff,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is it the final? And just want to, again,
clarify and just confirm,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): For all of us, is as the builder has
responsibility for the construction, the quality.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): obviously reviewed through the city and
the guidelines and the building codes and everything, how is the
responsibility of the safety and the production and the installation of
the art piece? Is it also with the builders?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, so, I mean, this has to go through a
building.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): permit process, so…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): It has to go through the fire department's
review, it has to go through, you know, structural with those building
division, our engineers, as well as public works. Yes. As well as, you
know, Danielle will probably look at this for conformity to whatever
conditions the Commission might
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): place on this, as well as the design
intent, like, for example, this is gonna be 8 feet tall, I believe.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): 7 feet, you know, if the artist shows up
with a 4-foot tall art piece, as an example, you know, that's non-
conforming. Everything's gonna have to be… there's actually another level
of approval after this as well. Yeah, sure.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): like the building, and that review and
approval process is very strict guidelines.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): this piece is also goes through the same,
so that the CC and the installation and everything…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): This has to be engineered. Any other art
piece has to be engineered for wind factors and…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Exactly. That is the confirmation, I
think, is… because it's not up to us to…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): review the structural piece of it. It is…
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I expect more the artistic piece of it.
Right. And how it fits into our community. Well, I mean.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): If I may add, I'm reading the resolution
that established the public art requirement in the first place, and one
of the…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): One of the criteria that is listed in
determining whether an artwork is acceptable includes public liability.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): It says, each artwork shall be examined
and approved for safety conditions and factors which may bear upon public
liability.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I guess on that note, I mean.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is there an engineering review and check
for public liability by a member of city staff at a later date?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, so that's part of the building
permit process. So we have plancheck engineers in our building division
that will review this, and not only for, you know, public safety is, of
course, one of the charges of this, of this ordinance, but also
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Accessibility, ADA. So as it's through a
pedestrian easement, make sure those who are disabled can
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Get the same access to someone who is more
pedestrian.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah.
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): So the artwork is required by the city or
by material to do by the homeland? Required. So, city has to have final
inspection. Not only check the safety, but also check the quality, right?
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Correct.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll share my two cents. First of all, I
really appreciate your presentation. I think it's fantastic that we have
a local artist, building a piece of art for the city of Cupertino. That
said, I'm feeling a little bit…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): hesitant to approve the proposal as is,
just because I feel like there's a couple of points that have been
flagged by the Commission, that I would like to see a little bit more
detail on. I mean, I think
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): The safety is one consideration that has
been brought up a number of times. I think, the exact material and plan
for the base structure
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): That was something that was mentioned, I
think, at least from my side. So, one line item, one criteria is also
technical feasibility.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, each proposed artwork shall be
examined for convincing evidence.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): of the artist's ability to successfully
complete the artwork as proposed. I noticed in, the, I guess the
portfolio shared, those are renderings, not actual fabricated art. So I
would like to see, I guess, examples of fabricated sculptures, if not by
you, by the, by the builder that you're working with.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): To… at least to give me a little bit more
confidence and a little bit more flavor of the execution of said
structure.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, just… That's kind of my… my two cents
at this point.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, it is within the Commission's,
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): charge to, you know, as a, you know, this
is one of the two commissions in the city that actually has approval
authority, rather than recommending authority to council. Daniel provided
a resolution with a condition of approval. If the Commission would like,
as part of their motion, you could add a conditional approval, you know,
saying we approve this subject to
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): a certain safety, thing. So, as an
example, you brought up the pointiness or the sharpness and stuff, a few
of the features, maybe…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): reflect that concern in the condition of
approval to modify design. Now, this commission has done that in the past
with certain art pieces, particularly, emergence. There were some
conditions, added conditions, design conditional approvals that added on
to staff's recommendation.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, that's just kind of a reminder of
anything you want to add to this as part of the motion.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sure.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Any other thoughts or comments? I guess,
just to be clear, at the end of our discussion here, we need to have a
decision on how we would like to proceed. So, I guess I'd love to hear
others' thoughts on how we should proceed.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, as you suggested, that there has to be
a spec… I mean, inspection by an engineer. That means our decision is not
yet ready.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): get the decision from the inspectors,
engineers come? Because there is the primary result. So our result cannot
be contingent, because we cannot even decide till they have the… that's
my two cents.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So when we get the result, it's safe,
secured, everything is done, then we can have any other contingency. But
now, if we decide on a few contingencies, then it'll be considered as
accepted.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Just minus these, these, these things. But
my suggestion is we don't, we don't have the authority to decide till the
inspection is completed, from the safety, point of view.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Message.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): It… I mean, that's… I mean…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): People can know how it works. Sorry. But,
you know, you typically, you could approve a design, and then it's, you
know, it's sub… I mean, it's conditioned, we…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): It will get… it will get… Reviewed by an
engineer.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): To shoot this to be done.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So… Hi, ma'am. Amelia.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Mr. Yu, they will submit a building permit
application, packet with the proposed design, along with the engineering
behind it, and building department is going to look at the engineering
behind the structure to make sure that it's securely installed into the
ground.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then it will be looked at at buyer, as
well as back to building industrial-friendly elements of the aspect, and
my job is to be looking at the structure to make sure it still matches
what's coming in, and basically the structural engineering has to affect
the architectural engineering.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, it would be, a part of that approval
process, and then whatever is approved, the inspectors are going to be
looking at that in the field, to make sure that the materials are being
followed in what's been approved, as well as I'll be doing an inspection
to make sure it looks as, it's been presented in the plans.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): If that helps for guidance.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: May I add a comment here, Chair Wang?
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: we could do a conditional approval
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Based on successful safety review, By the
appropriate city, departments.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Specifically on… Edges and tips. Safety.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And, solid base.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: For the… for the, art piece.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Those two are the ones that I've heard.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Being brought up.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I assume this is part of the process?
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: But I think it's appropriate for the
Commission We'll flag these as meeting Possibly special attention.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let me ask the question.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): If I go, I'm…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Condition 5 of the resolution kind of goes
with that, consultation with other departments, and the applicant is
responsible to consult with other departments or agencies with regard to
the proposed project.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So that would mean… and that's an all-
encompassing, condition of approval, which… which would include the
building division, fire department, as well as, public works.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then number 4 as well.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So 4 and 5 are kind of like those two
conditions of approval that are already in the resolution.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sorry.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): What foreign file are you ranching?
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, the conditions of approval on the… in
the resolution.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have action one.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, John, you were stating that The
resolution already has
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Reviews by appropriate city departments as a
condition.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Correct, so if you go to the, Daniel,
Attachment 1, I believe, the draft resolution, conditions 4 and 5.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): You know, this is… The integration from
this concept?
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, 5 to 6 years.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Demolition of the time. You said 5 and 6?
4 and 5. Oh, sorry, yeah, yeah, 4 and 5. Building and 5.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Bingo.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We're using, like, here's 4.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or was it for me? Actually…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I realize we didn't go through the,
resolution.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And you present on that real fast, just
the proposed conditions? Sure.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): You want to do that, Danielle? Well, I
wouldn't… I mean, if you want to just…
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or are you able to show them on the
screen? Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Onward.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you so much to deliver.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: You know, John, you're right. So, item
number 8 says…
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Not injurious to property or improvements,
to public health, safety, general welfare, and so on.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): We'll just start with the Commission.
Let's go through the chair, where do you want to start on this? Yeah,
could you just…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So we go through all of the conditions.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, Condition 1 is approval of the pivots,
which is the approval packet.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Addition two is accuracy of the project
plans.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): That the conditions of approval will be
followed in Condition 3?
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Building Code and Fire… Building…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): By our code will be, the public art will
be reviewed by them and approved.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): As well as consultation with other
departments, such as Public Works.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Condition 5.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Demolition requirements, which is actually
more of the overall project site, which was the demolition of the initial
structures, and then building is.
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Quinlan Conf Room: The, proposed townhome development.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then we have standard dust control
measures,
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Typical that we include when you have any
sort of increments on site.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): in that.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): The site will be watered daily to help
control the dust. This is, again, more so related to the demolition of
the existing structure.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): And the improvements on-site, but it's
something we include.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): You know, if she's ever fruitful.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's your building materials and
treatments.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): building exterior, shall… again, this is
more closely to the existing Building,
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's something that we typically include.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): the artwork…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): 9 is something that was brought up
earlier, which is the identification plate, where you have the 8x8.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Flap that's gonna be installed.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): permanent installation of the art piece,
which it discusses that the art is permanent in nature. We have
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): required this in the final map, in that
there's actually a public easement, dedicated on-site for the public art
itself, but it's also reported in the CCNRs.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Ongoing maintenance of the art piece.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's Condition 11.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Duplication, and that the artist…
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Has not, will not duplicate characters.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Condition 13 is a lighting plan.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): This would be a part of the building
permit review, and that I would be looking at it for compliance with our
dark sky measures, which you can see in Condition 14.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Public access to the artwork goes back to
our conditions of… well, goes back to our public access easement on the
map.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): This is, again, relating to the overall
project. For any sort of demolition grading construction activities, the
artwork is a part of, you know, construction activities, and will follow
our typical hours and notice regulations that we require for Bertina.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Again, typical, conditions of approval for
a landscape project was submittal. The art piece is located within the
landscape area, so we want to make sure that the landscape that's
approved as a part of the overall project is still in compliance and,
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): it won't be altered by the art piece. So
these are general conditions that we've… our resolutions.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Those are probably the rest of it that has
to do with, the art piece itself. We have, general conditions of approval
that we have related to 1704, which is
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Have a tree nearby, try not to disturb any
nesting birds.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): on.
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Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): That is brilliant.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, just a clarification, at which…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Stage, or which condition, would involve
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): engineering drawings for this piece being
submitted and reviewed by staff. 4 and 5.
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): 4 or 5 and 5 or 6.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. 4 and 5, like, yeah.
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Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, building fire code.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. Yeah, I mean, with these conditions,
I feel much more comfortable.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Huh.
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00:56:36.390 --> 00:56:43.820
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Chairman Wang, may I request that we,
display the resolution?
468
00:56:44.680 --> 00:56:51.039
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: The proposed resolution, because that is…
What we are approving, right?
469
00:56:51.530 --> 00:56:54.770
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And specifically item number 8.
470
00:56:58.410 --> 00:56:59.540
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): integrate.
471
00:57:03.110 --> 00:57:04.430
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: the draft resolution.
472
00:57:05.210 --> 00:57:07.269
Quinlan Conf Room: You, you mean above, right?
473
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:10.180
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Was a conditioner break?
474
00:57:11.560 --> 00:57:16.920
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: There's a document that was attached called,
Attachment A Draft Resolution.
475
00:57:17.420 --> 00:57:18.580
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right. Yes.
476
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:22.490
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Okay, and if you scroll down to… finding…
477
00:57:22.560 --> 00:57:26.090
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think he's looking for finding aids, so
if you go to,
478
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:30.560
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because you're talking about the proposal
at the proposed location. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
479
00:57:30.900 --> 00:57:36.990
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Finding 8 versus condition 8. So he's
asking… he's asking about finding 8.
480
00:57:38.690 --> 00:57:39.590
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
481
00:57:41.210 --> 00:57:42.470
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Okay, this one.
482
00:57:43.260 --> 00:57:53.680
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So… it… The response here to this item
number says.
483
00:57:54.740 --> 00:57:57.770
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: It will not be detrimental to…
484
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:01.700
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Public health, safety, and so on.
485
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:18.080
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, I guess the discomfort here is this is a
resolution that the… the mission… is going to…
486
00:58:18.890 --> 00:58:21.139
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Approve or not approve.
487
00:58:22.300 --> 00:58:34.830
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And… It's not clear that we are satisfied
that the safety-related review… Happened, black and white.
488
00:58:38.020 --> 00:58:44.910
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Now, if there is a place that it says that
the appropriate department did look at safety, That's great.
489
00:58:45.560 --> 00:58:46.680
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: If not.
490
00:58:47.140 --> 00:58:53.010
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: then I would at least want this as a
conditional approval, that the safety review happened by city staff.
491
00:58:56.990 --> 00:59:08.530
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I think that's a great catch, Vice
Chair. If we approve this resolution as written, it's basically saying
that we as a Commission are not proposing any modification.
492
00:59:08.770 --> 00:59:10.010
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Exactly.
493
00:59:15.210 --> 00:59:20.410
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So I am concerned that we as a commission
are saying, hey, we are satisfied, But we're not.
494
00:59:21.100 --> 00:59:24.169
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And maybe we are being extra cautious here.
495
00:59:24.300 --> 00:59:27.009
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: But I think in a ca- in this case.
496
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.940
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Given that the edges and the pointy parts
497
00:59:31.260 --> 00:59:35.630
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: You know, at least to the normal observer,
does raise a concern.
498
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:38.969
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I think an extra step is really not
499
00:59:39.640 --> 00:59:43.470
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: All that onerous, and it's probably
appropriate.
500
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:49.700
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, through the chair, if I can make a
recommendation, you can…
501
00:59:50.460 --> 00:59:56.000
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): We can add a conditional approval that's
typically titled, design modifications.
502
00:59:56.150 --> 01:00:00.190
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And in that initial approval, the
commission said, we approve this.
503
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:06.660
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): design with these certain modifications.
This commission has done this before with emergence. There were some.
504
01:00:07.420 --> 01:00:09.650
Quinlan Conf Room: Design modification had to do with the…
505
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:24.399
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): the look of the… making the structure more
feminine-looking, I think that was a… that was a modification that the
commission made at the time. And I think that, you know, this is… this is
why we have conditions of approval that,
506
01:00:24.600 --> 01:00:38.399
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): you're presented with an art piece, and as
the Vice Chair brought up, we can conditionally approve the design
subject to certain design modifications. So, with this added conditional
approval, you can say, you know.
507
01:00:38.580 --> 01:00:40.460
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): could be in… again.
508
01:00:40.690 --> 01:00:51.010
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): you… the Commission will need to come up
with the language itself, but if I'm hearing, there's concern about the
pointiness, the edginess of the, of the art piece, because it could…
509
01:00:51.140 --> 01:01:00.000
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't know, hook an eye out, possibly.
If someone gets too close to it, there's maybe too much of interaction.
You know, it could be… some of the point art pieces.
510
01:01:00.510 --> 01:01:20.110
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): rounded, or could they… is there a way to
maybe separate the public from the RPs with a small fence around it, so
as not to be interactive with it? I mean, these are… this is a discussion
that the Commission will need to have if that's the direction where
you're going, and that should be part of your motion.
511
01:01:26.510 --> 01:01:30.519
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Can I see? Yeah, please. Yeah, so I think
overall.
512
01:01:30.520 --> 01:01:36.680
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, what we heard from all the
commissioners, we like the concept of the design.
513
01:01:36.980 --> 01:01:44.010
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): There's been some concerns on the
implementation, in terms of the pedestal.
514
01:01:44.170 --> 01:01:47.730
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And the safety on some of the.
515
01:01:49.060 --> 01:01:50.210
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): those elements.
516
01:01:51.190 --> 01:01:54.550
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think the design was liked by all.
517
01:01:54.830 --> 01:01:59.019
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I also feel that we need to be 100%
confident.
518
01:02:00.340 --> 01:02:02.550
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I wouldn't begin ahead of the sink the
Lord.
519
01:02:02.660 --> 01:02:03.370
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oops.
520
01:02:06.190 --> 01:02:10.700
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is… is that also an option to give a
conditional
521
01:02:10.910 --> 01:02:13.970
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Approval, and we'll find the right
language on one.
522
01:02:14.210 --> 01:02:15.969
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): What we all agree on.
523
01:02:16.120 --> 01:02:21.100
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then does it come back to the Arts
Pulture Commission, or what happens next?
524
01:02:21.255 --> 01:02:24.935
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's… it's conditionally approved, so
which means it does not come back.
525
01:02:25.115 --> 01:02:29.015
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So you would… what you would do is make
your conditions, you would say.
526
01:02:29.195 --> 01:02:46.094
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, if you are… want a complete
redesign of the art piece, then we could say, yes, it would come back.
So, as an example, with the John Park art piece, the Commission had some
serious design modifications, so it was something that was beyond staff
to
527
01:02:46.125 --> 01:03:04.435
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): to interpret the… the will of the… of the
Commission. If it's a… if it's a slight modification, like emergence,
where it was like, okay, we just want maybe more of a rounded figure, or
in this case, possibly, you know, maybe take off the pointiness of some
of the lower,
528
01:03:04.555 --> 01:03:17.315
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): portions of the RPs, then I would suggest…
I would recommend to the Commissioner that so that you can easily
condition that staff, we feel comfortable with that interpretation.
529
01:03:18.490 --> 01:03:22.469
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Michael, that's definitely one scenario,
the one option.
530
01:03:22.930 --> 01:03:31.369
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or the other option would… So that we do
get the chance to review.
531
01:03:31.375 --> 01:03:32.965
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): adoption.
532
01:03:33.250 --> 01:03:38.219
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And what would be the… That one's how you
looked at?
533
01:03:38.450 --> 01:03:41.049
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We discuss it as, what do we all feel?
534
01:03:41.670 --> 01:03:44.909
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Maybe if I'm going to see if…
535
01:03:45.490 --> 01:03:51.610
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): how far we are all feeling, where is our
comfort level. I think that we've probably all…
536
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:54.980
Quinlan Conf Room: Feel, at the minimum comfort level, there's some…
537
01:03:56.220 --> 01:04:00.689
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I support that. If I may, if I may. Yeah,
so thank you for, I guess.
538
01:04:00.850 --> 01:04:19.820
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): summarizing our discussion so far, totally
agree. I think that's the… what is the downside of bringing it back to
the Commission? That's kind of what I was getting at with my question
earlier about trying to understand the implications of approval timings.
So it sounds like, really, the only timing consideration is that
539
01:04:19.980 --> 01:04:27.569
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Art piece needs to be completed before the
last occupancy… the last unit is occupied.
540
01:04:29.540 --> 01:04:32.760
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): In my opinion, I feel like that's…
541
01:04:34.270 --> 01:04:36.850
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Gives us time for one more loop.
542
01:04:37.220 --> 01:04:40.890
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): But that was my interpretation of the
situation.
543
01:04:40.895 --> 01:04:43.934
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Timing-wise, the next meeting is May 18th.
544
01:04:44.980 --> 01:04:47.109
Quinlan Conf Room: And I believe in May…
545
01:04:48.660 --> 01:04:54.689
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): correct me if I'm wrong, I'm trying to
work off memory here, we introduced the Arts Awards that night, is that
true?
546
01:04:55.350 --> 01:04:56.210
Quinlan Conf Room: of July.
547
01:04:57.530 --> 01:05:01.799
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sorry, what's the… They're the artist… we
started the discussion on the artists.
548
01:05:02.420 --> 01:05:05.539
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): In terms of the… the theme. Isn't that the
theme?
549
01:05:05.805 --> 01:05:12.144
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Isn't that the actual… event happens in
October.
550
01:05:13.045 --> 01:05:19.995
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or… I could look right now. I feel like
July… I feel like that might be a July topic.
551
01:05:20.935 --> 01:05:26.684
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Maybe the year past, we did it in May,
because we had a lot of new commissioners.
552
01:05:27.175 --> 01:05:31.005
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So we wanted to have an intro discussion
first.
553
01:05:34.590 --> 01:05:40.810
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Correct. No, it was… it was in July,
right? Yeah. May of last year, we had SV Creates in the study session,
so…
554
01:05:41.070 --> 01:05:43.519
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. Yeah, so I think…
555
01:05:44.800 --> 01:06:01.899
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Am I accurate in saying the two options
that Commissioner Aurora is what we're circling around? So one is
approving conditionally with a design modification, and the second is to
request the team to bring it back for another review in May.
556
01:06:04.770 --> 01:06:14.120
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Correct, so if you take the second option,
my recommendation is to be very detailed as to what you want to see, so
as the artist knows, what modifications you'd like to see.
557
01:06:18.780 --> 01:06:28.370
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Given these two options on the table, I
guess, can we go around the room to share where each individual is, is,
is landing?
558
01:06:28.820 --> 01:06:31.510
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll start with you, Vice Chair.
559
01:06:33.940 --> 01:06:40.900
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: You know, I'm, concerned that we are not the
experts On the safety aspect.
560
01:06:41.540 --> 01:06:49.480
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: You know, the… how much it's edgy, how much
is that pointy, and how much is that a hazard?
561
01:06:50.610 --> 01:06:51.610
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So…
562
01:06:52.010 --> 01:06:57.879
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Well, either is your options. You know,
suppose we say, okay, for the second option, here's what we want to see.
563
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:02.600
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: We are effectively being engineers and
safety experts.
564
01:07:04.310 --> 01:07:13.069
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Somewhere, we need the… Smart engineering
staff at the city to assess.
565
01:07:13.310 --> 01:07:19.729
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Whether we are barking up a wrong tree here,
or… There's a real concern, and…
566
01:07:20.200 --> 01:07:26.189
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And they need to say, okay, here's
modification that allay that concern.
567
01:07:27.830 --> 01:07:33.070
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, my apologies, I'm not picking one of
these two. That's still an open question to me.
568
01:07:39.820 --> 01:07:41.260
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you.
569
01:07:42.030 --> 01:07:45.539
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): May I ask a design question? I did have it
earlier.
570
01:07:45.950 --> 01:07:54.179
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): May I ask you, were there other material
choices that you had thought about?
571
01:07:57.870 --> 01:08:05.809
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Not so much for the actual figure itself,
but we did go into consideration for other materials for the base.
572
01:08:06.180 --> 01:08:23.189
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I know we've discussed having it out of
concrete, but then I do know we kind of rejected just, like, just normal
concrete, because that probably won't… just concrete probably won't
completely sustain the actual weight of the structure, so…
573
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.360
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I had… thank you. So…
574
01:08:30.930 --> 01:08:41.500
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): my response to the pedestal is I'm less
concerned about it, because I think that's a structural engineering
decision.
575
01:08:42.220 --> 01:08:47.939
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And if we point that out, that's… with
that condition, I…
576
01:08:48.220 --> 01:08:51.980
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Fully think there are others that are
suited to make that decision.
577
01:08:53.189 --> 01:08:58.570
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So that's… I'm kind of splitting the two
parts now. Something the pedestal, for me.
578
01:08:58.770 --> 01:09:09.319
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): is a decision I would leave to the
engineers and the structural engineers, and that's not me, to decide
whether it's safe or not. Yes. So I'm okay giving…
579
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:12.819
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Absolutely asking somebody else.
580
01:09:13.810 --> 01:09:18.510
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Appreciating that it can be done by staff
and process.
581
01:09:19.200 --> 01:09:21.190
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): that bottles, I'm okay with it.
582
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:30.799
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): The other part, we… I think we have
indicated where the concern is.
583
01:09:31.069 --> 01:09:37.510
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Just on the sharpness, and I think the
artists understand this, so…
584
01:09:38.859 --> 01:09:41.169
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think we could work with the staff.
585
01:09:41.460 --> 01:09:45.490
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Unless we think the design is going to be
so changed that we'll proceed again.
586
01:09:45.970 --> 01:09:46.779
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sick.
587
01:09:47.270 --> 01:09:48.420
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's where I am.
588
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:53.899
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): not too uncomfortable, but I think the
pedestal, I'm quite happy to.
589
01:09:55.820 --> 01:09:57.650
Quinlan Conf Room: Make it as part of the condition.
590
01:09:59.530 --> 01:10:00.730
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): At least that's contact.
591
01:10:02.630 --> 01:10:15.230
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): I like to say that our job is to reveal a
piece of artwork for safety for planning landscaping installation should
be revealed by the city or other departments.
592
01:10:15.860 --> 01:10:22.120
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, as long as the design work cannot
change too much, it will need a revealed then.
593
01:10:24.050 --> 01:10:28.540
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's my option, so I support additional.
594
01:10:30.240 --> 01:10:33.860
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): And surely not much material to select
that.
595
01:10:34.730 --> 01:10:35.310
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): You know what?
596
01:10:35.420 --> 01:10:44.759
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I have a question. When is the inspection?
After the installation, after everything's done, or before that? Because
once it's done, there's no… we'll come back from there.
597
01:10:44.975 --> 01:10:57.544
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Inspections happen multiple times during
development. So, as an example, you know, Mr. Hughes' townhome
development, you know, when it came before the Planning Commission, City
Council, engineers hadn't looked at the design at all.
598
01:10:57.545 --> 01:11:09.534
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): is really just looking at the site, the
Public Works looks at it, Fire Department looks at it for spacing and
height, and all those departments condition the approval. Only afterward
599
01:11:09.615 --> 01:11:17.714
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): after the design is approved of the
development, then the engineers, as Ms. Chen, as Commissioner Chen had
600
01:11:18.535 --> 01:11:20.065
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): point out.
601
01:11:20.925 --> 01:11:33.055
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): that's when the engineering gets looked
at, to ensure that those buildings can be built safely, okay? Same
process with the RPs. And so, you know, how many inspections do the
townhomes go through?
602
01:11:33.065 --> 01:11:41.455
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Numbers, like, probably close to over 100,
I'd say. In this case, it won't be 100 inspections, but they'll look at
the foundation port.
603
01:11:41.455 --> 01:11:53.134
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): They'll look at how the RP's installed on…
into the foundation. Then they'll look afterward, probably close to the
final one, the access around it, too. Right, I understand.
604
01:11:53.135 --> 01:12:10.774
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): when we were building our multiplex. So,
the inspection redoes… there's a lot of redo effect after it. So, what we
are trying is, can we do something before it's done, so that there's no
redo? Can we gauge the safety, security, or accuracy, all the factors,
before it's even built?
605
01:12:10.775 --> 01:12:21.465
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let me analyze it, so that we say, you
know, the investment done, that there's not really. That's my question.
Is there any inspection done before it is start… before we start building
it?
606
01:12:21.770 --> 01:12:22.340
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): inspection by.
607
01:12:22.345 --> 01:12:28.275
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Any engineers or somebody who just can
review the safety concern before it's made.
608
01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:39.630
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): for its… well, so that's… I mean,
typically, you wouldn't make something until it's approved, right? So, I
mean, so they… they wouldn't fabricate the art piece until the building
permit is issued.
609
01:12:39.895 --> 01:12:59.885
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So my concern here is I might not go for
an approval, because if everything is made and then the inspection is
done, it's too late for any redo or redesign. So I would suggest that we
have something modified and approved by us, if there is a comeback
possible. Otherwise, they might never not even know what happened later.
It might be a problem for them later as well.
610
01:12:59.885 --> 01:13:04.385
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, my suggestion… I'm not sure exactly
how we review it.
611
01:13:04.385 --> 01:13:11.644
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): But now that the concern has been flagged,
we have to have an action of how we check that this flag has been
resolved.
612
01:13:11.735 --> 01:13:12.505
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Pencil.
613
01:13:14.440 --> 01:13:19.890
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, Chair Wang, I do have, more clarity in
my mind, if I may put that on the table.
614
01:13:22.040 --> 01:13:22.650
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Peace.
615
01:13:23.120 --> 01:13:27.240
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yeah, I would, again, we are still
discussing here.
616
01:13:27.500 --> 01:13:36.870
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Given the discomfort here, I believe we do
need to re-review this.
617
01:13:37.130 --> 01:13:38.650
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: In the next meeting.
618
01:13:39.530 --> 01:13:47.509
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And the feedback I would give is… Address
the safety to public.
619
01:13:49.430 --> 01:13:53.630
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Regarding the edges and the tips, At a lower
level.
620
01:13:55.040 --> 01:13:59.790
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: have, planning department, I assume that's
the right one.
621
01:13:59.970 --> 01:14:01.369
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: of the city.
622
01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:05.320
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Review it for safety, with the
modifications.
623
01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:10.449
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And then, let's get this back In the next
meeting?
624
01:14:11.110 --> 01:14:13.660
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: For, review and approval.
625
01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:25.100
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I guess…
626
01:14:25.220 --> 01:14:34.749
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): My position before that comment, I'm
honestly neutral, right? I think I did share my concerns earlier. I think
627
01:14:36.330 --> 01:14:48.520
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Typically, during these presentations, we
receive more evidence of technical feasibility, so I think that would be
an area… yeah, I mean, frankly, that's an area that I was expecting more
of.
628
01:14:48.970 --> 01:14:55.629
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And… yeah, I'm neutral, I can help you.
629
01:14:57.000 --> 01:14:58.159
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I have a…
630
01:14:58.970 --> 01:15:08.360
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'd like to share some. And also, this is
because of discussion, evolving, viewpoints, and it helps also, actually,
631
01:15:09.290 --> 01:15:12.149
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): how I feel now is,
632
01:15:14.440 --> 01:15:21.419
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): We can, give the conditional approval, ask
the staff to review specifically for the,
633
01:15:21.710 --> 01:15:24.179
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): The caution or the concern we have.
634
01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:29.759
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): But we do bring it back in the May
meeting, because then there's no delay.
635
01:15:30.330 --> 01:15:31.609
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): we allow?
636
01:15:32.440 --> 01:15:40.850
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): the staff, and we just want to have a
final look before it goes into design. And if we feel at that time, so…
637
01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:45.729
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): still have concern. That's when there's
going to be a
638
01:15:46.500 --> 01:15:53.950
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): This work anyhow has to be done, but the
safety review has to be done. Some redesign, and the safety review will
have to be done.
639
01:15:54.280 --> 01:15:56.920
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right. I guess my…
640
01:15:58.330 --> 01:16:10.609
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Well, it wouldn't be approved then,
because if you're bringing it back, it's not approved. So you… we would…
we would essentially be bringing back a resolution again for you, and a
redesign. Only for those…
641
01:16:10.610 --> 01:16:11.680
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): two elements.
642
01:16:11.830 --> 01:16:18.210
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Again, so we… we wouldn't sign off on a
resolution. So what we say is, like, we would represent
643
01:16:18.360 --> 01:16:23.059
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Kind of like what we did with John and
Park that time, right? John Park, the commission had
644
01:16:23.180 --> 01:16:32.120
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): significant modifications, and then we
brought it back the following meeting, and then at that time, they…
that's when they approved it. So.
645
01:16:32.570 --> 01:16:39.470
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, at this point, the motion would be to…
Bring this back.
646
01:16:39.770 --> 01:16:42.789
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): At, the next… at the May… the May meeting?
647
01:16:42.910 --> 01:16:44.860
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): To, to review the redesign?
648
01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:59.630
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't think, at this time, the billing
division would review it for safety, for engineering, because if it's
going to be redesigned, then you have to re-engineer it to accommodate
for the redesign. So it's…
649
01:16:59.770 --> 01:17:04.609
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): you know, again, the charge of this is… of
the Commission is to,
650
01:17:05.160 --> 01:17:18.729
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): is to look at the design. Now, if they
want to… if you want to see how it's going to be placed in the ground,
you know, more engineering, I mean, that's… You can ask for it, that's
fine. If they have it ready, that's fine too, but…
651
01:17:18.780 --> 01:17:29.280
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): you know, I'm not an engineer, and I don't
think many, many commissions are engineers. There's only a few, so… Yeah.
I mean, presumably the.
652
01:17:29.285 --> 01:17:32.315
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): It has engineers who can put together an
engineering.
653
01:17:33.860 --> 01:17:36.339
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): True, but then it needs to come from the
city.
654
01:17:36.850 --> 01:17:53.250
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's true, but again, I recommend that
this doesn't turn into an engineering meeting, where we're debating how
this is placed, and how it's engineered, and improving engineering
drawings, like, well, I kind of want to see it… the foundation, 4 feet
instead of 3 feet.
655
01:17:53.250 --> 01:17:53.970
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: No.
656
01:17:53.970 --> 01:17:59.279
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think the charge of the commission is to
look at the design. If it changes to the design itself.
657
01:17:59.450 --> 01:18:11.710
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think that's within your… the
Commission's purview to… to either approve conditionally, or bring back
at a later date to… to ensure that the modification to the design, is
met.
658
01:18:13.160 --> 01:18:14.859
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, I was kind of frightened.
659
01:18:16.610 --> 01:18:17.930
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah.
660
01:18:17.930 --> 01:18:25.510
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I agree with you, John, on the engineering
portion, the base, and so on, so thanks, I appreciate your input there.
661
01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:31.239
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I think it's the safety part, not on the
base, but the edges on the tips that…
662
01:18:31.400 --> 01:18:33.879
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: The… the bigger concern is coming there.
663
01:18:39.810 --> 01:18:44.439
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Building and fire don't sign off on the
artwork as designed.
664
01:18:44.550 --> 01:18:48.719
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Which would then modify the design, that
you would want to.
665
01:18:49.250 --> 01:18:52.100
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): We look at the art piece.
666
01:18:52.970 --> 01:19:01.690
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): But otherwise, building and buyer may look
at design and not determine a safety issue, and then it be processed as
currently designed, and…
667
01:19:01.980 --> 01:19:05.760
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Without resolving… Other concerns at this
one?
668
01:19:08.470 --> 01:19:17.659
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's a good point. May I ask some of the
question there? I think what you just mentioned, the fire and the safety,
669
01:19:18.850 --> 01:19:24.230
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So the word safety is what we are all a
little bit, right now, focused on.
670
01:19:24.860 --> 01:19:28.239
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do they typically look at these elements?
671
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:33.930
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): They look at the structural integrity of
it.
672
01:19:34.410 --> 01:19:53.450
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): as so much for the pointiness of the
structure, I don't know if that's an issue for them, but if it is, they
would make a comment on it, and then it would cause modification of the
design. And so then if the design changes, that would then be a
conversation of how significant is that change, and do we bring that
back?
673
01:19:54.190 --> 01:20:01.449
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I understand that. Yeah, but if… if it is
already going from… if it was to go from Arts and Culture Commission,
that…
674
01:20:01.570 --> 01:20:05.090
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Please, Mr. Fire Department, look at it.
I'm sure they will look at it.
675
01:20:05.670 --> 01:20:06.660
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Farm.
676
01:20:07.310 --> 01:20:10.949
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): That we have this concern. They look at
the building.
677
01:20:10.955 --> 01:20:21.354
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): permit review, but they won't look at a
building permit until it's been formally submitted, and we won't process
a formal application until we have the engine. I see. They only look at
it then.
678
01:20:22.105 --> 01:20:27.144
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Firebit is very much, backed up at
different levels as well. Okay, so…
679
01:20:27.145 --> 01:20:29.665
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): It goes through the process. Okay.
680
01:20:30.060 --> 01:20:35.499
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): If I may, in the interest of time, I'll go
out on a vent here.
681
01:20:38.370 --> 01:20:46.700
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I guess, to preface that, the reason
why I'm being challenging and difficult is because, at the end of the
day.
682
01:20:46.870 --> 01:21:04.000
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I feel accountable as a member of the
Commission for public art pieces that are installed in the city. So I've
heard complaints about other pieces that have been installed, so I… from
members of the community, so I just want to make sure that we are doing
our due diligence as, I guess.
683
01:21:05.150 --> 01:21:06.000
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's…
684
01:21:06.240 --> 01:21:23.740
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): in our mandate by Council, to thoroughly
vet and review, any public art proposals that come before us, to make
sure that it best serves the community. So that's where all of my
questioning is coming from.
685
01:21:24.090 --> 01:21:25.000
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): is…
686
01:21:25.480 --> 01:21:35.279
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): from that lens. Not because I don't like
the work, or not because, I'm trying to be difficult. That said, I do
feel like
687
01:21:35.930 --> 01:21:43.409
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): we are a bit split as a commission on, how
to move forward. I think there's…
688
01:21:44.970 --> 01:22:03.010
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Two that want to move forward
conditionally, with an approval conditionally, and two that feel a little
bit more on the fence, maybe leaning more towards bringing it back. I
guess my proposal is, given I don't think we have a clean, unanimous
decision as of today.
689
01:22:03.010 --> 01:22:07.469
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): My proposal would be to request the team
690
01:22:07.470 --> 01:22:16.380
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): to bring this back in our May meeting,
addressing, the specific concerns. And we can…
691
01:22:16.600 --> 01:22:25.430
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): detail specific points that we want
touched on. For an approval, then.
692
01:22:27.220 --> 01:22:28.890
Quinlan Conf Room: Thoughts? Questions?
693
01:22:32.370 --> 01:22:34.549
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yes, I agree with that.
694
01:22:34.700 --> 01:22:40.599
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And I'm going to use the example, would you
put a smaller version of this
695
01:22:41.010 --> 01:22:48.589
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: outside our Cupertino library, Where the
dancing children's statue is, and let children climb on it.
696
01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:49.850
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I would not.
697
01:22:50.270 --> 01:22:52.559
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And the lower tip.
698
01:22:52.680 --> 01:22:57.260
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: It's low enough that one day a kid is going
to climb on it and hurt themselves.
699
01:23:04.730 --> 01:23:11.390
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And it's a beautiful piece with that one
safety issue exception, which I believe can be addressed.
700
01:23:18.940 --> 01:23:26.179
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Would it help if I give any suggest… like,
if I give what I'm thinking in mind of how we're resolving this for now?
701
01:23:26.830 --> 01:23:37.610
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, with all the concerns I brought up, I
understand. What I was thinking of helping resolve this problem for now
is because
702
01:23:38.120 --> 01:23:57.869
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Currently, the art piece itself is more
vertical on the axis than horizontal. I was thinking maybe of tilting
and, more… yeah, tilting towards what would be now the left side of the
axis, so that way it brings up that limb a bit, and then I can also
extend it.
703
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:06.489
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, rather than having the limbs at,
like, more of a tip, I go round it off, because the actual structure
itself
704
01:24:06.560 --> 01:24:22.629
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): right now does have more of a, I guess, a
triangular shape, a prism shape. I could round that off into more of a
triangle tip, rather than just a sharp, like, pencil tip, if that helps
resolve any…
705
01:24:22.910 --> 01:24:25.630
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Any questions that you guys have, or
concerns?
706
01:24:27.990 --> 01:24:29.750
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Does that sound?
707
01:24:30.460 --> 01:24:30.900
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I think so.
708
01:24:37.500 --> 01:24:39.709
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, again, in the interest of time, maybe…
709
01:24:40.050 --> 01:24:40.740
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Buddy, please.
710
01:24:40.740 --> 01:24:41.359
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Go ahead.
711
01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:43.589
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think I…
712
01:24:44.325 --> 01:24:54.004
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I adjusted this correctly, but yes, we…
what I have listed as the suggested measurements for the base was a 4x4.
713
01:24:56.670 --> 01:25:01.709
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Innovated, same. Yes. To apply phase,
same. Same on account.
714
01:25:06.230 --> 01:25:09.300
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is it possible, to,
715
01:25:09.430 --> 01:25:12.990
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Raise the height, just in general? Make it
bigger.
716
01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:17.830
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, yeah, that would be possible.
717
01:25:17.835 --> 01:25:22.034
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I really like your ideas, anyhow, because
it keeps the concept
718
01:25:22.425 --> 01:25:27.885
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): it could have been like that to start
over. Yeah, I… Yeah. That's right.
719
01:25:27.885 --> 01:25:29.395
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): C2…
720
01:25:29.565 --> 01:25:47.744
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): areas where you could… I could possibly
raise the height. One is obviously the pedestal, that one, but that would
still, I think, with your concerns, that would still leave a stepping
stool, I guess, right? I probably, with, like, this… again, with the,
concern about the…
721
01:25:48.285 --> 01:25:57.624
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): stability of the actual piece itself, the
base of the actual… where it's standing on the pedestal will probably
widen a bit, and I could…
722
01:25:57.745 --> 01:26:05.924
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I could also… Raise that distance
inter… like, just keep the proportion-wise of the base while…
723
01:26:06.285 --> 01:26:09.655
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Lifting up the entire height of the
sculpture.
724
01:26:11.050 --> 01:26:21.800
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): IDM, but the question still lingers back
that are we approving it with the modifications intended, or do we want
to check that a modification suits what the safety concerns we have?
That's the question we have.
725
01:26:22.020 --> 01:26:26.400
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think… I… So, repeat.
726
01:26:26.405 --> 01:26:39.454
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): come back during our May meeting, I guess
with a concrete, proposal, taking into consideration the feedback that
we've discussed. Absolutely.
727
01:26:43.310 --> 01:26:43.840
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yep.
728
01:26:50.740 --> 01:26:54.120
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let me ask a question. Do we need a
motion?
729
01:26:54.270 --> 01:26:55.320
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): for this.
730
01:26:55.470 --> 01:26:58.569
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah. Okay, so, my sister with the motion.
731
01:26:58.830 --> 01:27:02.239
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Can the commission specific as to what
would you like the artist
732
01:27:02.350 --> 01:27:05.089
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): What modifications do you like the artist
to make?
733
01:27:05.590 --> 01:27:11.530
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Just so as that a decision can be made in
the May meeting.
734
01:27:12.480 --> 01:27:20.609
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, feel free to jump in, but I think, the
primary one that was mentioned by, the team is…
735
01:27:21.130 --> 01:27:33.669
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): to address, potential safety concerns with
the sharp tips near the limb, so that could be addressed, a couple of
routes, and I guess I would leave the…
736
01:27:34.230 --> 01:27:53.920
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): exact execution, to you, after your
investigation, but options could include, changing the tilt to basically
make the point above a point that would be, potentially hazardous. The
second would be rounding the edges.
737
01:27:54.070 --> 01:28:00.240
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then… third would be…
738
01:28:01.310 --> 01:28:11.169
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): reducing the… reducing the accessibility
of the pedestal to… to… or… I don't know how you would actually go about
that, but,
739
01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:19.940
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Make it less feasible for someone to step
up and,
740
01:28:23.350 --> 01:28:27.909
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, at the end of the day, I think
this is a design question, so, I mean…
741
01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:31.900
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I think that's well put.
742
01:28:32.350 --> 01:28:33.460
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): it to you.
743
01:28:35.650 --> 01:28:38.279
Quinlan Conf Room: But you think stress is the concern.
744
01:28:40.570 --> 01:28:42.180
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then…
745
01:28:42.560 --> 01:29:02.539
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I would also like to see, a little bit
more evidence on the actual fabrication and construction. So, the, the
contractor that you said you plan to work with, Penn Tiger Construction,
I'd love to see if you have any examples that you can share of sculptures
that they've made.
746
01:29:09.260 --> 01:29:14.299
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Anything else that we discussed that
wasn't actually Lauren's shouldn't capture?
747
01:29:27.180 --> 01:29:35.639
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Chair Wang, I think the points you mentioned
absolutely address some of the discussion here. Maybe we can make a
motion on that now?
748
01:29:42.540 --> 01:29:47.239
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. Can you please agree to the proposed
motion?
749
01:29:48.450 --> 01:29:50.640
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, what I have for the proposed motion.
750
01:29:50.645 --> 01:30:04.834
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): And address potential safety concerns with
the sharp tips near the limb by changing the tilt or rounding the edges
and reducing the accessibility of the pedestal, and more evidence on the
fabrication and construction.
751
01:30:05.940 --> 01:30:08.190
Quinlan Conf Room: And then it's bringing this back to the new meeting.
752
01:30:13.230 --> 01:30:14.020
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
753
01:30:14.720 --> 01:30:15.310
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh.
754
01:30:15.480 --> 01:30:22.929
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Qualification, as for clarification,
examples, from the selected…
755
01:30:26.390 --> 01:30:27.920
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): install. Contract.
756
01:30:32.750 --> 01:30:34.090
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do you mind repeating them?
757
01:30:34.680 --> 01:30:43.040
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Examples of, sculptures made by the
selected Velta.
758
01:30:43.400 --> 01:30:45.660
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Build a contract. Builder.
759
01:30:46.900 --> 01:30:48.130
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Matt, what is it called?
760
01:30:48.460 --> 01:30:53.250
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Pentine. Pentine.
761
01:30:55.520 --> 01:31:02.769
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so more evidence on the fabrication
and construction, of sculptures made by the selected builder.
762
01:31:13.180 --> 01:31:13.830
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
763
01:31:14.040 --> 01:31:18.770
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'd like to motion what was, read by
Lindsay.
764
01:31:20.430 --> 01:31:21.830
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I have to second that motion.
765
01:31:24.760 --> 01:31:25.580
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Hmm?
766
01:31:25.910 --> 01:31:30.009
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So we'll do a roll call vote. Commissioner
Chen?
767
01:31:32.050 --> 01:31:34.589
Quinlan Conf Room: Additional things.
768
01:31:36.310 --> 01:31:38.379
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Boat. Yeah. No?
769
01:31:39.480 --> 01:31:40.340
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Nope.
770
01:31:42.200 --> 01:31:43.610
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Fernando?
771
01:31:45.110 --> 01:31:46.460
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Aurora?
772
01:31:46.570 --> 01:31:47.320
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes.
773
01:31:47.730 --> 01:31:49.269
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Vice Chair Lambda?
774
01:31:49.490 --> 01:31:50.310
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yes.
775
01:31:51.550 --> 01:31:53.050
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Chairway? Yes.
776
01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:55.990
Quinlan Conf Room: The motion carries with Commissioner Chen Booty.
777
01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:08.420
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
778
01:32:10.970 --> 01:32:11.770
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): V?
779
01:32:12.810 --> 01:32:15.460
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let's no way.
780
01:32:15.465 --> 01:32:16.215
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's not going.
781
01:32:16.215 --> 01:32:16.955
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): leveling as.
782
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:19.220
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): changed. I really appreciate that. No,
it's not.
783
01:32:19.225 --> 01:32:22.045
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): the outcome you wanted, but, yeah, I…
784
01:32:23.265 --> 01:32:25.454
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Official? Yeah, that's how much it is.
785
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Quinlan Conf Room: Thank you.
786
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Amelia, thank you for your work. It's a
beautiful piece. I think with these modifications, we'll all be
satisfied. So, looking forward to seeing your, presentation again.
787
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. Looking forward to see you guys
again.
788
01:32:43.340 --> 01:32:48.509
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you
for this.
789
01:32:50.460 --> 01:32:55.149
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): closed Are we free to go? Okay.
790
01:33:04.030 --> 01:33:07.780
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is it possible to make a comment on this
topic?
791
01:33:08.390 --> 01:33:18.310
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's already been… Oh, maybe it's a new
agenda. It's okay, I'll put it in the proposed new agenda.
792
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Moving on to the next item on the agenda,
subject, status update and presentation, the Arts and Culture Commission
Subcommittee charged to Inventory Assets within the City of Cupertino.
793
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): representing both physical,
organizational, and programs related to arts and culture. The recommended
action is to receive a presentation and provide a guidance to the
subcommittee on next steps. So I have a presentation. Am I allowed to
share directly, or should I send it to you?
794
01:33:44.460 --> 01:33:51.690
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): You can share it over Zoom. I sent you a
panelist link to your email, so if you just get in there, and you can go
into Zoom and then you can share it.
795
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Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): I should have received an email since
then.
796
01:33:59.590 --> 01:34:00.900
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, sorry.
797
01:34:02.330 --> 01:34:07.260
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Also, sorry the discussion went a bit
long, but… It's important.
798
01:34:07.265 --> 01:34:10.024
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): We appreciate your patience.
799
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I thought the last part did this.
800
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Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, that sense is English short.
801
01:34:24.105 --> 01:34:27.754
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, the last tree I bought something at
the door.
802
01:34:32.460 --> 01:34:35.960
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Perfect fill in there, so just shares.
803
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So,
804
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): A couple meetings ago, we established
subcommittees. One of the subcommittees was to work on inventorying the
art that we have in Cupertino.
805
01:35:18.910 --> 01:35:23.380
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, this is an update from, Gramee and
myself.
806
01:35:24.310 --> 01:35:40.850
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): As a little bit of background for
everyone, this is the powers and functions of our commission. So you'll
see point number 5 explicitly says to maintain an inventory of facilities
available for related arts and culture activities within the community.
807
01:35:40.970 --> 01:35:49.080
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, basically, what we're trying to do
here is… is address this…
808
01:35:49.660 --> 01:36:07.960
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): function, directly. It's already been
something that has been charged to us by Council, so hopefully they
appreciate this effort, and hopefully this is a clear way that we as a
commission can help contribute to the city.
809
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I want to say thank you so, so, so, so, so
much to Vice Chair Lamba. He did all of the heavy lifting here.
810
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): going around the city, documenting over 40
public art installations, and taking photos of them. So, a tremendous
effort. Thank you so much. Nice share.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do you want to talk to this slide and the
following?
812
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Sure, sure, thank you, Chair Wang.
813
01:36:43.340 --> 01:36:49.810
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, Between us and Chair Wang, you know, we
start this effort.
814
01:36:49.970 --> 01:36:51.910
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: A few comments from me here.
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01:36:52.040 --> 01:36:59.049
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Number one, I think we should be really
proud in Cupertino to have some really good public art.
816
01:36:59.500 --> 01:37:05.810
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Now, remember, art's in the eye of the
beholder, right? The beauty. And some of them, I say, okay, they're kind
of meh.
817
01:37:05.960 --> 01:37:11.350
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And some of them are fantastic, but that's
my opinion. Others may have different opinions.
818
01:37:11.580 --> 01:37:18.859
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, based on the inventory we got from John,
initial inventory, we've kind of cleaned it up.
819
01:37:19.040 --> 01:37:29.950
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: The first one is there's a bunch of non-
existent installations. There's two loops that stood out. Apparently,
there's a tile wall that's supposed to be there in the Quinlan Park,
Quinlan Center.
820
01:37:30.070 --> 01:37:34.649
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: It's not there. I asked the office there,
nobody could find it.
821
01:37:34.780 --> 01:37:38.979
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And there's a bunch of murals that are
supposed to be at the Whole Foods.
822
01:37:39.180 --> 01:37:48.819
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Maybe it was the old Whole Foods, but the
management came out of the Whole Foods and helped me look around, and we
couldn't find it.
823
01:37:49.430 --> 01:37:55.910
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I've taken high-quality photographs of
Pretty much all these.
824
01:37:56.090 --> 01:37:59.699
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Including any artist attribution plaques.
825
01:37:59.900 --> 01:38:05.180
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: We've also listed other art assets, like
studios, galleries, and so on.
826
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I think a lot of you, we have talked about
the Eufred Gallery, but there's another gallery, kind of a pseudo-
gallery, which is a Cubertino Library. Has some excellent art displays,
also.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: The issues, the major issues I've found is
828
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: very often, I could not find
829
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: A plaque giving the name of the art piece,
And the artist's name.
830
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I did not do a thorough review of
requirements.
831
01:38:37.140 --> 01:38:46.139
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: But I believe, in our requirements for the
developer, I don't think we have listed that as a requirement. It needs
to be checked.
832
01:38:46.400 --> 01:38:50.290
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Either way, we need to address this, in my
opinion.
833
01:38:50.860 --> 01:38:56.029
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Also, some installations do not have
convenient public parking nearby.
834
01:38:56.430 --> 01:39:00.779
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: A few examples. The art piece at the forum
835
01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:05.350
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: You know, I had to illegally park on the
road and quickly run and take a photograph.
836
01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:09.269
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: There is no convenient place to park.
837
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Another one is the Apple campus on Tantal,
but not, you know, right just north of the
838
01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:20.310
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: visitor center.
839
01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:25.500
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, only Apple employees are allowed to park
there.
840
01:39:25.630 --> 01:39:29.099
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: There is a small sign that you can go in and
get a permit.
841
01:39:29.350 --> 01:39:33.010
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So I did that, so that I could park and took
a photograph.
842
01:39:34.310 --> 01:39:53.990
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: A last thing, again, these are my opinions.
The Emergence, which is a fantastic piece in my, you know, the photograph
on the top right, that really stands out. It's, it's steel, but it's got
some color, it's got a beautiful theme with butterflies and so on.
843
01:39:54.340 --> 01:39:58.250
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And the second one, which, if you've been to
the Cocodino Library.
844
01:39:58.390 --> 01:40:01.450
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: the Dancers and Friends statue.
845
01:40:01.570 --> 01:40:08.830
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: It is so popular with kids. Every kid in
Cupertino who comes to the library knows this piece.
846
01:40:09.910 --> 01:40:11.990
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Let's go to the next page, please.
847
01:40:13.700 --> 01:40:20.339
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: These are just some photographs. I mean, I
did not, like, specifically pick a few, but this tells you
848
01:40:20.630 --> 01:40:25.000
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: There's some beautiful art out there. The
top left is next to the forum.
849
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: The one next to it is called the Stargazer.
It's a little off the beaten path. It's at the Hyatt Hotel House, Hyatt
House on De Anza and 280 intersection.
850
01:40:37.050 --> 01:40:51.019
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Below that is the reader. It's also a little
hidden, but kids who go to the Cupertino Library, and inside their,
whatever that inside part is, which is open air, this statue is out
there.
851
01:40:51.460 --> 01:41:00.279
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: The one in the bottom right, this is the one
in the Jollyman Park, the new, children's park that was opened out there.
852
01:41:00.740 --> 01:41:04.870
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: The one above that is in the Apple campus.
853
01:41:05.170 --> 01:41:09.820
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And the one on the right you've probably
seen, it's an intersection of Stevens Creek and,
854
01:41:10.190 --> 01:41:11.990
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Work probe.
855
01:41:13.640 --> 01:41:16.980
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: That's about it. I'll hand it back to you,
Chair Bank.
856
01:41:18.860 --> 01:41:25.909
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Now, thank you so, so, so much, for going
out and actually taking these photos and making sure that the art piece
is selling to us.
857
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Huge resource for the sibling.
858
01:41:31.850 --> 01:41:41.870
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so, these slides are not as nice as,
but I also wanted to touch on, a couple of the other items that we've
worked on, so…
859
01:41:42.020 --> 01:41:52.010
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Try to inventory, like, physical studios.
So these are spaces that, artists can use, or students can use to learn
art.
860
01:41:52.180 --> 01:41:57.660
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, name, address, website,
861
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Two galleries that were mentioned, and
then, three main organizations that, came to mind, Cryptonian Library
Foundation, Felt, Rotary Club. If you can think of any others, I mean,
please let us know, we'll add it to the list.
862
01:42:13.860 --> 01:42:16.840
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): But yeah, in essence, that's…
863
01:42:17.580 --> 01:42:27.120
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): what we created was an inventory.
Currently, it's a live document, but the idea is
864
01:42:27.380 --> 01:42:35.460
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Perhaps we can, maybe every year or so, at
some cadence, just update it, just to,
865
01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:41.200
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): stay up-to-date on, anything art-related
in that city.
866
01:42:42.140 --> 01:42:56.510
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Moving on to, I guess, the next topic, I
wanted us as a commission to discuss, now that we have this resource,
what do we want to do with it, right? How do we want to leverage this
information?
867
01:42:56.860 --> 01:43:11.730
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, this is, an app that was released by
the city several years ago, Cupertino Art Tour. It's an augmented
reality, tour, so you can go around the city. It has some public art
tagged.
868
01:43:11.880 --> 01:43:23.280
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): and go up to the actual sculpture, and
learn more about the artist, the construction, the technology, etc. So
this is one research that already exists.
869
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's not up to date, but it exists.
870
01:43:26.310 --> 01:43:29.810
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And for some inspiration,
871
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): This… these are some examples of what
other municipalities have done. So the city of Mountain View, they have a
public art map on their website. Palo Alto has, a public art map slash
collection on their website. So these are all of the pieces in their
collection, and the ones that are, I guess.
872
01:43:50.680 --> 01:43:56.379
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): In… on display, outside, have an address.
873
01:43:56.520 --> 01:44:07.699
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then the City of Sunnyvale has, in
addition to the collection, they also have created, physical art walks.
874
01:44:08.190 --> 01:44:20.870
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, these are, like, actual pamphlets that
they've printed out. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So they've created pamphlets
where,
875
01:44:22.070 --> 01:44:30.939
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): community members can pick them up from
the Art Center or City Hall, and follow them around the city.
876
01:44:30.945 --> 01:44:39.224
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Just the heart, but also exercise.
Exactly. Combined together, you virgin people go to outdoor events.
877
01:44:39.225 --> 01:44:46.684
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Exactly. Yeah, so there's a wide range of
what I think we can do with this information, or what other cities have
done with this information.
878
01:44:47.345 --> 01:44:49.315
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, discussion.
879
01:44:49.525 --> 01:45:01.865
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): How do we, as a commission, want to
leverage this information collected? I've jotted a couple of examples
here, but I really wanted this to be a discussion
880
01:45:01.975 --> 01:45:09.634
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So I'll just read a couple of the ideas so
far. Yeah.
881
01:45:10.525 --> 01:45:11.595
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Publish.
882
01:45:11.985 --> 01:45:15.364
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): A public art catalog onto our city
website.
883
01:45:15.705 --> 01:45:19.005
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Update art tour with the latest public
art.
884
01:45:19.415 --> 01:45:23.575
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Create a self-guided walking tour map,
885
01:45:23.915 --> 01:45:34.385
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): create art attribution plaques for
missing. I don't know how we would actually execute on that, but Gurmeet,
this is in response to your observation.
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01:45:34.390 --> 01:45:35.030
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Giving it.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then five, I think we should… I'll
just jump ahead, I think we should do this regardless of any of the first
four, is reach out to local art studios, galleries, and organizations, at
least just to, like, let them know we exist.
888
01:45:51.070 --> 01:46:09.180
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And in the process, try to learn from them
if there's any opportunities that we as a commission can help with,
publicity, connecting with city resources, or collaboration. I would
argue, number 5 is actually
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01:46:09.270 --> 01:46:19.939
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): part of our core powers and functions as
well. What is it? Provide liaison between various art and culture
activities. So…
890
01:46:21.070 --> 01:46:22.790
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's also a general plan policy.
891
01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:29.920
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is it usually marked, for economic
development? Oh, okay. So, anyway…
892
01:46:29.920 --> 01:46:35.589
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll say, sorry, 5 regardless, but, yeah,
what do people think?
893
01:46:38.700 --> 01:46:41.749
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you, to put everything together.
894
01:46:43.570 --> 01:46:45.060
Quinlan Conf Room: And then consumed soon.
895
01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:52.640
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, so, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
896
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think having this inventory, I commend
both you, Chair and Vice Chair Lamba, for putting your subcommittee
efforts.
897
01:47:03.570 --> 01:47:09.589
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): to put this together. I think it's great.
In terms of ideas mixed.
898
01:47:09.780 --> 01:47:13.569
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): My question is going to go to staff.
899
01:47:14.140 --> 01:47:20.699
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): is… how will it be done? So, for example,
the art tour update?
900
01:47:21.385 --> 01:47:22.225
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's the.
901
01:47:22.225 --> 01:47:23.484
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): outfit app?
902
01:47:23.915 --> 01:47:30.025
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So my question is to the staff. If we
chose to do that, how will it actually get done?
903
01:47:30.430 --> 01:47:35.779
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Well, it's already done. I mean, I mean…
Cool, the new one. It's there. It's just a matter of updating it.
904
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): with the pieces that are on there. You can
go on right now and get on your phone, and it's functional. It's just a
matter of working with IT to supply them with the list. A prior
commissioner had done this huge
905
01:47:50.610 --> 01:47:55.360
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't know if I said it to the
subcommittee, I can't remember, it was, like, a table, both, like.
906
01:47:55.750 --> 01:48:09.440
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): it was, like, paragraphs and paragraphs of
information about the artist and stuff, and I think that was just way
too… I mean, personally speaking, that was way too long and unneeded. You
know, I think… I think it should be very abbreviated, you know, the
information on there. But…
907
01:48:10.100 --> 01:48:12.050
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): How's the staff time?
908
01:48:12.845 --> 01:48:25.024
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I can work with the IT director to see who
would… who on their staff could do this. Okay. Because, like I said, it's
there, it's, you know, the city's already paid for it, I think it's just
a matter of inputting the information.
909
01:48:25.030 --> 01:48:33.859
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, okay, thank you for explaining that.
So then, I do have a strong recommendation to include in there.
910
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): the second one. But also, definitely the
first one, because that's the website, so why not put it there? Those two
at least come to me as something, if we can…
911
01:48:46.310 --> 01:48:48.260
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): get the help from Sal.
912
01:48:49.510 --> 01:48:55.220
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): yeah, we have to see how we can do it. But
yes, those are the ones that I have very, very strong,
913
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Interested, if you can provide that for
others.
914
01:48:58.890 --> 01:48:59.580
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yep.
915
01:49:00.040 --> 01:49:08.780
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I guess, John, just from a staff
perspective, can you give us your quick thoughts on 1 through 4, like,
how feasible they are?
916
01:49:08.785 --> 01:49:19.754
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I was thinking about it, and shoot, let me
just figure out how to share my… I have to go… I have to log in, share my
screen. No, I… I got it. It's just a matter of me.
917
01:49:19.875 --> 01:49:24.105
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): get onto it. You know, the Arts and
Culture Commission already has
918
01:49:24.715 --> 01:49:28.074
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, as you know, the Arts and Culture
Commission has their own webpage.
919
01:49:28.185 --> 01:49:34.935
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Within that webpage is a sub… there's,
like, child pages, right?
920
01:49:37.495 --> 01:49:42.255
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Unfortunately, it's not linked through
here, but if you type in, like,
921
01:49:42.765 --> 01:49:48.345
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Just type in, like, Artist Awards in the
search bar on the, in the webpage.
922
01:49:52.755 --> 01:50:00.785
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Like that, right? And so you see… Ideally,
what I would do is just have something like a child page underneath this
that shows, like.
923
01:50:01.470 --> 01:50:03.000
Quinlan Conf Room: And that's something we could do.
924
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): 3 hours. Honestly, it's so easy now. You
could, you know, and we could probably turn that Excel sheet into, if you
go…
925
01:50:14.600 --> 01:50:24.580
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): If you type in the… I'm sorry, Chair. If
you type into the search bar, do, major residential projects. I want to
show you an example of,
926
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, click on that.
927
01:50:30.490 --> 01:50:34.400
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, you could do something like this,
right? A table like that.
928
01:50:34.900 --> 01:50:41.650
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): You know, like, like, artists, instead of,
like, you know, just on the art piece, location, and so the table could
be, like.
929
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Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): city-themed colors like this, kind of
consistent throughout, excuse me, and maybe have a link to a photo or
whatever else. I mean, those are things that's…
930
01:50:53.710 --> 01:50:55.460
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I can knock this out and…
931
01:50:56.340 --> 01:51:00.989
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): you know, 3 hours. Honestly, it's just,
it's super easy to do.
932
01:51:01.340 --> 01:51:05.400
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, it's nothing that I would think the
counseling's a way in on, or…
933
01:51:05.540 --> 01:51:07.949
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): or whatnot, but I think it's…
934
01:51:08.700 --> 01:51:13.970
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): quite, I don't know. Yeah, I think.
935
01:51:13.970 --> 01:51:14.860
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Hey.
936
01:51:15.190 --> 01:51:16.140
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Easily do.
937
01:51:16.360 --> 01:51:16.960
Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah.
938
01:51:16.960 --> 01:51:25.730
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Hey, John? Yes. Remember when I saw you at
the reception? I was… I was talking to the front desk?
939
01:51:25.830 --> 01:51:27.559
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: In the City Hall?
940
01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:28.939
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Absolutely, yes.
941
01:51:29.150 --> 01:51:34.949
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yeah, so that person I was talking to turned
out to be a pretty, good art
942
01:51:35.180 --> 01:51:37.380
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Appreciator or something.
943
01:51:37.570 --> 01:51:45.030
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: She showed me a website on the city pages
that was created, I believe, for…
944
01:51:45.310 --> 01:51:49.280
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Some event this year, which actually has an
art map.
945
01:51:51.520 --> 01:51:54.470
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I'm gonna dig it up and send it to you.
946
01:51:54.630 --> 01:52:01.150
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So… Couple things just on the list that you
had mentioned, Chair Wang.
947
01:52:01.480 --> 01:52:06.509
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So… Number one, art tour. Number two, the
website.
948
01:52:06.910 --> 01:52:11.499
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Both these assets exist, they need to be
updated.
949
01:52:11.870 --> 01:52:14.970
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And if, John, you and your role as a
liaison.
950
01:52:15.100 --> 01:52:17.810
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: can connect with the IT department.
951
01:52:18.050 --> 01:52:27.300
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: and get me introduced, I can kind of guide a
little bit on details that may not be clear in the spreadsheet.
952
01:52:28.050 --> 01:52:33.559
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So… Yeah, so my proposal is, if we move
forward on those two.
953
01:52:33.850 --> 01:52:37.819
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And I'll dig up the website, it's somewhere
in the city, pages.
954
01:52:38.260 --> 01:52:39.749
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: It's an update.
955
01:52:40.360 --> 01:52:41.390
Quinlan Conf Room: I think…
956
01:52:41.390 --> 01:52:43.070
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yeah, go ahead, please.
957
01:52:43.070 --> 01:52:43.760
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): we can do this.
958
01:52:43.765 --> 01:52:51.435
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): you know, I could check with the city
attorney and make sure that maybe three of us can meet as a subcommittee.
It doesn't… if there's any Brown Act violations.
959
01:52:53.520 --> 01:52:58.699
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And, you know, if someone from IT can
join, or I could… it's just me, and then I could just work with IT.
960
01:52:58.700 --> 01:52:59.440
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Okay.
961
01:52:59.770 --> 01:53:00.970
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Directions from the subcommittee.
962
01:53:00.970 --> 01:53:01.580
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yeah.
963
01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:11.770
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Fair enough. Just guide us there, whatever
is appropriate, but I'm very happy to interact with whoever
964
01:53:11.910 --> 01:53:16.779
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Kind of help them decipher the spreadsheet
and if there's missing items.
965
01:53:18.280 --> 01:53:20.419
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: On both the website and the Art Tour app.
966
01:53:20.700 --> 01:53:25.250
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And the last thing I wanted to say here was,
regarding the plaque.
967
01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:29.350
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: With artist name and attribution and the
name.
968
01:53:29.940 --> 01:53:34.489
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I think we need to do a review of the
requirements.
969
01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:36.850
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Whatever the document is called.
970
01:53:36.970 --> 01:53:40.219
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: and see whether it's listed there or not. I
believe it's not.
971
01:53:40.360 --> 01:53:41.820
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: If it's not.
972
01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:50.840
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: then we may want to put this in the agenda
for a future meeting, and actually vote on amending that document.
973
01:53:51.260 --> 01:53:54.519
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And requiring, artist attribution plaque.
974
01:53:56.390 --> 01:54:00.340
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I believe the plaques are part of the
ordinance already.
975
01:54:00.720 --> 01:54:09.750
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): If we go back, some of these art pieces…
some of these art pieces, like the one at Whole Foods, I believe predates
the ordinance.
976
01:54:10.250 --> 01:54:18.010
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, and I've been required to put a plaque
there. Some of them do not, predate the ordinance, and they just…
977
01:54:18.440 --> 01:54:21.660
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): didn't put a plaque in. And so,
978
01:54:21.770 --> 01:54:26.330
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): It'll be… a little bit of homework to see
which… which are which.
979
01:54:26.540 --> 01:54:33.869
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And does your spreadsheet, if I… I don't
recall, does your spreadsheet identify which art pieces have a plaque?
980
01:54:33.870 --> 01:54:36.009
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yes, I have put photographs.
981
01:54:36.510 --> 01:54:41.290
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Where there are attribution photographs of
the attribution, and then no plaque.
982
01:54:42.170 --> 01:54:42.720
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Alright.
983
01:54:43.410 --> 01:54:49.890
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I ain't… A real sneaky way to do it is in
case those developments come back with a…
984
01:54:50.020 --> 01:54:52.830
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): project, and we can always say.
985
01:54:53.690 --> 01:55:11.439
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): part of your condition of approval is to
put a plaque on this, or a piece that you didn't do it the first time,
which has happened, you know. We've done this when they've come in for,
like, building permits. We've noticed that certain things weren't done,
they were missed, and we've had them go and whatnot, so I think that
helps.
986
01:55:11.440 --> 01:55:15.859
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): having this… you know, I don't know if I'd
make this public as part of, like, the…
987
01:55:15.860 --> 01:55:16.790
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yeah.
988
01:55:16.810 --> 01:55:25.570
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): the chart, but I think, you know, as
something that's an internal document, we can keep and say, okay, keep
track of.
989
01:55:26.070 --> 01:55:26.600
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yep.
990
01:55:27.590 --> 01:55:29.070
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I like your idea.
991
01:55:29.490 --> 01:55:30.020
Quinlan Conf Room: Yep.
992
01:55:38.080 --> 01:55:45.480
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Back to John, feasibility… oh, I guess you
kind of already talked about this one, but what do you think about
feasibility number 3?
993
01:55:49.290 --> 01:55:52.870
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): That would probably take a little bit more
staff work.
994
01:55:53.490 --> 01:55:54.200
Quinlan Conf Room: Hmm.
995
01:55:54.390 --> 01:55:55.790
Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, self-guided…
996
01:55:56.610 --> 01:56:00.870
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): kind of walking tour map, like, an actual
pamphlet, like, physical…
997
01:56:00.875 --> 01:56:06.385
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): would have to create content. Right. Yeah.
Yeah. And.
998
01:56:06.390 --> 01:56:13.690
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): May I ask? Yeah. Walking tours, so some of
these are quite far… Spread out, right?
999
01:56:14.160 --> 01:56:18.010
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Are we… That's okay.
1000
01:56:18.970 --> 01:56:20.929
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Well, so… They're a few miles away.
1001
01:56:20.935 --> 01:56:36.924
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Maybe as inspiration, so Sunnyvale, I
think, does it really, really well. Yeah. So they have, over here, they
have six maps, actually. Yeah. So 6 different neighborhoods. I mean,
you're not telling them to literally walk from one end of the city to the
other.
1002
01:56:36.925 --> 01:56:39.695
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): So maybe, I mean…
1003
01:56:39.695 --> 01:56:54.695
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): It is, yeah. I can envision, maybe, like,
there's a cluster near City Hall that has a lot of art pieces, and maybe
there's, like, a little one there, and maybe there's another cluster near
Memorial Park, something like that.
1004
01:56:54.915 --> 01:56:57.065
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): We can even do it in phases.
1005
01:56:58.760 --> 01:57:01.259
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I could take a look if he can send
me that link.
1006
01:57:01.430 --> 01:57:09.999
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): after the meeting, I can take a look at it
and kind of maybe run it by some… some folks to see what's the
feasibility of that. Hopefully we need to get some type of…
1007
01:57:10.950 --> 01:57:14.820
Speaker 8 (Quinlan Conf Room): monies, request money from Council as part
of that.
1008
01:57:18.530 --> 01:57:19.390
Quinlan Conf Room: Eddie?
1009
01:57:19.390 --> 01:57:26.269
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Any additional ideas that are not part of
this list from the commissioners?
1010
01:57:30.550 --> 01:57:33.189
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So all of this is, like, from our
direction.
1011
01:57:33.310 --> 01:57:48.119
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Can we have something that people
participate from their direction? Like, how do they… how do we confirm
that they have actually seen, learned, or felt it? You know, maybe some…
something, some contest, or some fly, or some event, or something, where
they can begin.
1012
01:57:48.500 --> 01:57:49.500
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): aside.
1013
01:57:50.220 --> 01:57:55.210
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I mean, I think that's a great
point. I would say, as a starting point.
1014
01:57:55.770 --> 01:58:01.170
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): We… all of us, as Commission members,
should…
1015
01:58:01.680 --> 01:58:09.310
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): feel as a liaison between mission and
members of the public. So…
1016
01:58:10.560 --> 01:58:19.780
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, feel free to ask anyone in your
life, what they think about Bolivar and Cupertino, and…
1017
01:58:19.910 --> 01:58:28.600
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): if they have any recommendations for how
we can make it more accessible, to… Sure. Go ahead.
1018
01:58:32.960 --> 01:58:36.950
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm feeling colder as a chilly, you know,
I won't.
1019
01:58:38.500 --> 01:58:43.219
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: You know, once we have the website and the
Art Tour app updated.
1020
01:58:43.420 --> 01:58:47.540
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: You know, that's a great launching point to…
1021
01:58:47.970 --> 01:58:51.499
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Communicate with more people, market it.
1022
01:58:51.780 --> 01:59:05.580
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: maybe publish an art tour, maybe next year
we do a art walk day, where we publish various art tools, and folks go
around and have a nice walk. Maybe partnership with the Parks and Rec
team.
1023
01:59:09.310 --> 01:59:17.000
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: But the root is, let's get the… work with
the IT team to get these two assets updated, and then we can start
thinking of
1024
01:59:17.170 --> 01:59:24.520
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Brainstorming ideas on how to get the
community excited about art in Cupertino.
1025
01:59:27.350 --> 01:59:28.589
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Hold on, Pia.
1026
01:59:29.080 --> 01:59:31.280
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay. Sorry.
1027
01:59:31.490 --> 01:59:41.300
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, so actually, we can have a fun
activity if you have buckets of places where these are located. So, when
there's any event in library corridor.
1028
01:59:41.300 --> 02:00:03.670
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): then we can have a treasure hunt or
something with our things, so that they actually go and see by a game of
play. And if we have something near Memorial, maybe when we have the
Cherry Festival, or Diwali, or something, in that way, we can have a
prize for the treasure hunt. So we can have all these points, have some
treasure, people will themselves go, instead of, you know, re-bushing
them. So, that will be easier and fun activity.
1029
02:00:04.500 --> 02:00:06.900
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): small check of,
1030
02:00:07.970 --> 02:00:15.430
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And you involve the youth, it can be
easily done. Very small gifts are enough motivation.
1031
02:00:15.435 --> 02:00:19.165
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, the winning feeling itself more than
the price. That means…
1032
02:00:20.940 --> 02:00:29.319
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I think, what a wonderful idea, Commissioner
Panda, especially making it part… leveraging existing events, like the
Derry Festival.
1033
02:00:29.450 --> 02:00:31.529
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I think that's a fantastic idea.
1034
02:00:32.440 --> 02:00:41.610
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Throughout the year, we have so many
festivals happening in Memorial, in library, and as you mentioned, it
just stuck that, you know, we can just use those ones. Yeah.
1035
02:00:41.960 --> 02:00:51.629
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): events. Just half an hour, 15 minutes, and
children and youth, we can give some prizes. They just run and find these
stuff, so that'll be fun.
1036
02:00:51.635 --> 02:01:00.694
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): In terms of execution, I can see this
being, like, relatively low-hanging fruit, right? Literally, one of us
can put together a one-pager, a trigger hunt.
1037
02:01:01.005 --> 02:01:04.715
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): give it to an organizer of an existing
event.
1038
02:01:04.720 --> 02:01:16.889
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): organize it for them? Yeah. They gave us
the time slot, and all the audience, they can organize and make some fun
activity. So, the easy return. If, if you say green, I mean, we can go
and suggest this to the organizers.
1039
02:01:17.530 --> 02:01:22.499
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, absolutely. I can, tell you there's
a next event coming up,
1040
02:01:22.690 --> 02:01:27.459
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): From Cupertino Roveries, the Fall
Festival. It's on…
1041
02:01:28.800 --> 02:01:39.110
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): September, but not till the page of my…
either 9th or 13th, something like that. And Cupertino Library Foundation
also has
1042
02:01:39.390 --> 02:01:51.889
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): several booths there, so either of them we
can participate with, as long as we can tell them what we're wanting to
do, but they can execute it because they're already at the booth, and we
can be also
1043
02:01:52.080 --> 02:01:53.690
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Don't volunteer the goods.
1044
02:01:53.695 --> 02:01:54.235
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): this would love.
1045
02:01:54.240 --> 02:02:00.280
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): As Arts and Culture Commission. When we
do… there is an event coming up, if this can be done by then.
1046
02:02:00.420 --> 02:02:01.419
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think so.
1047
02:02:01.420 --> 02:02:01.740
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, no.
1048
02:02:01.740 --> 02:02:04.240
Speaker 4 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, we can put the target?
1049
02:02:04.890 --> 02:02:06.640
Quinlan Conf Room: That's do it, yes. Okay.
1050
02:02:08.090 --> 02:02:08.680
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Perfect.
1051
02:02:10.120 --> 02:02:12.409
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Cool. Can we go to public comment?
1052
02:02:12.410 --> 02:02:12.980
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes.
1053
02:02:13.210 --> 02:02:14.580
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sorry.
1054
02:02:15.095 --> 02:02:15.765
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
1055
02:02:15.935 --> 02:02:17.914
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have no speakers.
1056
02:02:18.655 --> 02:02:22.555
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, don't do it. We have to do it. Yes.
1057
02:02:22.560 --> 02:02:25.019
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm so sorry.
1058
02:02:25.680 --> 02:02:38.619
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): That said, are there any other points of
discussion? Where I would like us to conclude is, I guess, a formal
motion of… of how we would like.
1059
02:02:39.340 --> 02:02:41.429
Quinlan Conf Room: What we would like to move forward with.
1060
02:02:45.000 --> 02:02:45.970
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And make the move.
1061
02:02:46.170 --> 02:02:53.789
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah? On this topic, right? Yeah, so we
can make a motion to, To use…
1062
02:02:53.790 --> 02:02:55.250
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): the,
1063
02:02:55.255 --> 02:03:01.774
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): The inventory of the art assets that's
been made and, presented today,
1064
02:03:02.055 --> 02:03:09.284
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): To see if it can be included in staff
support for the item number 1 and item number 2.
1065
02:03:16.400 --> 02:03:20.900
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Can I also think about it? Oh, wait for a
second, for a second. Just give me a second.
1066
02:03:23.110 --> 02:03:23.970
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: in the morning.
1067
02:03:25.650 --> 02:03:33.539
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Wait, but sorry, Commissioner Ponda, did
you have… Antina's. Oh, okay.
1068
02:03:33.870 --> 02:03:44.220
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then, I guess, can I amend to that,
that we investigate, number 3 and…
1069
02:03:45.310 --> 02:03:49.790
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Ugh, can be supplement?
1070
02:03:56.120 --> 02:03:57.020
Quinlan Conf Room: Got it.
1071
02:03:57.020 --> 02:04:02.280
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I would like to… For us to investigate.
1072
02:04:02.420 --> 02:04:03.400
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Who knows?
1073
02:04:05.040 --> 02:04:06.360
Quinlan Conf Room: Let's fairness.
1074
02:04:08.920 --> 02:04:10.810
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Are we asking the staff time?
1075
02:04:12.510 --> 02:04:13.210
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Bye.
1076
02:04:15.110 --> 02:04:17.260
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, maybe. Yes, ma'am.
1077
02:04:17.260 --> 02:04:26.930
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, when I say investigate, I mean
John will give us feedback on if this is something he thinks we can or
can't do.
1078
02:04:27.900 --> 02:04:31.420
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, not officially asking for resources
now.
1079
02:04:35.990 --> 02:04:37.809
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Are you thinking it's too ambiguous?
1080
02:04:41.840 --> 02:04:44.080
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I would personally like to get the first
two done.
1081
02:04:47.170 --> 02:04:48.629
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And everything you're saying?
1082
02:04:48.990 --> 02:04:56.550
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): You can always ask, Sure. You can always
access that. Keep it clean.
1083
02:05:01.780 --> 02:05:06.000
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, just for clarity, the motion is, what
we have here on the.
1084
02:05:06.005 --> 02:05:09.015
Speaker 6 (Quinlan Conf Room): Screening, right, for number 1 and 2?
1085
02:05:09.980 --> 02:05:10.780
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
1086
02:05:14.350 --> 02:05:16.709
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, sorry, Anne, Anne,
1087
02:05:16.830 --> 02:05:23.519
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): We don't need any resources for this, but,
please, can we also do 5?
1088
02:05:25.210 --> 02:05:28.409
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Who's doing that? I mean, anyone.
1089
02:05:28.820 --> 02:05:29.660
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Correct.
1090
02:05:30.210 --> 02:05:31.590
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll do it.
1091
02:05:34.370 --> 02:05:36.430
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): That's fun.
1092
02:05:37.210 --> 02:05:38.730
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): They're all doing it, right?
1093
02:05:39.260 --> 02:05:48.150
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): As such. So I guess you're saying, because
we don't need… because we don't need resources, we don't even have… we
don't have promotion? No, no, we have to put.
1094
02:05:48.155 --> 02:05:53.425
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Are you expecting a report back? We
definitely don't want to take staff time. Yeah, no, this is not a…
1095
02:05:53.425 --> 02:05:55.915
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I want to be very clear on that. Yeah.
1096
02:05:56.645 --> 02:05:58.965
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): The afternoon is precious. John is
smiling.
1097
02:05:58.965 --> 02:05:59.725
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, yes.
1098
02:06:00.065 --> 02:06:00.705
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Let's do…
1099
02:06:00.710 --> 02:06:01.809
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, I'm not sure.
1100
02:06:01.815 --> 02:06:03.995
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thinking out loud… Yes.
1101
02:06:04.285 --> 02:06:09.135
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): what I'm thinking about is, for the
readouts of this meeting.
1102
02:06:09.275 --> 02:06:17.594
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): What are we going to tell Council, or what
are we going to… what can we say we aligned on during our meeting today?
1103
02:06:19.090 --> 02:06:24.340
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): So then, if… I'll let you make the motion,
and then I would ask for an amendment.
1104
02:06:25.630 --> 02:06:27.149
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'd like to make the motion.
1105
02:06:28.050 --> 02:06:32.489
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): What is the motion? Connect with local
artists? Absolutely.
1106
02:06:32.495 --> 02:06:33.274
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): This thing looks this.
1107
02:06:33.275 --> 02:06:37.115
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's a question. There's no intention.
1108
02:06:37.115 --> 02:06:38.385
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I guess I would…
1109
02:06:38.805 --> 02:06:47.604
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I would amend to your previous motion, and
say, to do 1, 2, and 5.
1110
02:06:48.690 --> 02:06:50.719
Quinlan Conf Room: With the point… with the…
1111
02:06:51.620 --> 02:06:56.889
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): The point that no staff involvement is
needed. That's just me.
1112
02:06:58.400 --> 02:07:00.430
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): May I ask the clarity bank questions on
this?
1113
02:07:01.000 --> 02:07:02.740
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is there a need to…
1114
02:07:03.060 --> 02:07:07.739
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): add it all? Can there not be a separate
motion so that we can leave staff out of that?
1115
02:07:08.980 --> 02:07:13.009
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Are we not allowed to make a separate
motion on the same part? I, I… so…
1116
02:07:13.800 --> 02:07:21.460
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): correct if I'm wrong. The motion was made
by Commissioner Roller. Yeah, we had… Chair added a friendly amendment to
add number 5.
1117
02:07:22.150 --> 02:07:24.979
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, there was an amended motion.
1118
02:07:25.320 --> 02:07:27.500
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, another slide. Okay, and then…
1119
02:07:27.930 --> 02:07:29.819
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): And then 5 could be…
1120
02:07:30.050 --> 02:07:44.409
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I mean, I don't think it has to be two
separate motions. We could do… we could probably do it with one motion.
Motion… the motion with the friendly amendment is to have… to implement
one and two, and then that commissioner's
1121
02:07:45.900 --> 02:07:56.150
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): by the next May meeting, if I'm
understanding you correctly, I have a list of… list of… businesses…
1122
02:07:56.470 --> 02:07:59.899
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Art business, business… business that
relates to the arts.
1123
02:08:00.490 --> 02:08:01.590
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): like, a list?
1124
02:08:01.990 --> 02:08:03.439
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Well, no, we already have the list.
1125
02:08:03.445 --> 02:08:07.395
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): This would literally be sending an email
to people and being like, hey, like.
1126
02:08:11.215 --> 02:08:12.424
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Because… okay.
1127
02:08:12.430 --> 02:08:20.170
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, I, I think, you know, if I could
make a recommendation, that's okay through the chair, I think it should
be something tangible.
1128
02:08:21.160 --> 02:08:23.579
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): This could be a deliverable or something,
like, if…
1129
02:08:23.850 --> 02:08:27.410
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Like, you can point to it. Like, one and
two have that?
1130
02:08:27.600 --> 02:08:28.680
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't…
1131
02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:35.919
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I don't feel… I don't… I don't have a
deliverable in mind, so maybe we remove that from…
1132
02:08:40.400 --> 02:08:43.209
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): So we're removing number 5 from the
motion.
1133
02:08:44.050 --> 02:08:44.970
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
1134
02:08:49.130 --> 02:08:55.690
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: May I propose, Chairman Van, for item number
5, We should have,
1135
02:08:56.020 --> 02:09:03.330
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: discussion at a future meeting, more of a
brainstorm within the Commission, how we can Connect.
1136
02:09:03.700 --> 02:09:07.939
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And engage with organizations, and maybe
even select
1137
02:09:08.120 --> 02:09:11.099
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: A few, each of us select a few to do an
outreach.
1138
02:09:16.540 --> 02:09:19.090
Quinlan Conf Room: Is that something we could put on a future agenda?
1139
02:09:23.110 --> 02:09:26.920
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yeah, a time-capped discussion, otherwise
this could be a very long one, too.
1140
02:09:30.630 --> 02:09:36.560
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, so we have a motion and a second for
item number 1 and item number 2. Should we have a vote?
1141
02:09:38.460 --> 02:09:39.630
Quinlan Conf Room: Commissioner Chen?
1142
02:09:41.280 --> 02:09:43.040
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Panda? Yes.
1143
02:09:43.960 --> 02:09:45.820
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Aurora? Yes.
1144
02:09:46.170 --> 02:09:47.620
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Vice Chair Linda?
1145
02:09:48.110 --> 02:09:48.710
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yes.
1146
02:09:49.580 --> 02:09:53.180
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): Chair Wang? Yes. Motion carries
unanimously.
1147
02:09:58.670 --> 02:10:01.310
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Future, and gender?
1148
02:10:06.290 --> 02:10:08.100
Quinlan Conf Room: Okay, thank you all.
1149
02:10:10.940 --> 02:10:13.349
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: We have one more topic, right, Chair?
1150
02:10:13.350 --> 02:10:13.690
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Justice.
1151
02:10:13.690 --> 02:10:14.010
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Right?
1152
02:10:14.010 --> 02:10:15.150
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, thank you.
1153
02:10:15.370 --> 02:10:29.779
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): This should be a quick one. Arts and
Culture Commission to discuss special meeting and support of the Euphrit
Museum of Art at De Anza College. Recommended action is for Commission to
discuss and coordinate… sorry. Commission to discuss coordination of
events, including date and time.
1154
02:10:31.070 --> 02:10:34.130
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Can I pass it off to Vice Chair?
1155
02:10:34.380 --> 02:10:34.970
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Prefer?
1156
02:10:34.970 --> 02:10:35.660
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Thank you.
1157
02:10:35.760 --> 02:10:44.140
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So this is in the category of outreach to
local, galleries and art, businesses.
1158
02:10:44.360 --> 02:10:49.489
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: We had discussed this earlier. Eufred is the
only public gallery in Cupertino.
1159
02:10:49.730 --> 02:10:54.929
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And I have… I have reached out to the
curator and the person who leads that.
1160
02:10:55.140 --> 02:11:01.169
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: On us, as a commission, having a tour of
that facility.
1161
02:11:01.300 --> 02:11:03.740
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And the art that is displayed out there.
1162
02:11:03.960 --> 02:11:08.750
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: She replied saying their new exhibits start
on May 5th.
1163
02:11:09.380 --> 02:11:18.929
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And the Saturdays that… work are either May
9th, 23rd or 30th.
1164
02:11:19.380 --> 02:11:38.349
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So this would be a formal commission
meeting, I believe, like we had done earlier at the Palo Alto Arts
Center. The difference being, this one is actually more relevant, because
it's our own city's gallery. City's gallery, as in our own city as this
gallery.
1165
02:11:38.850 --> 02:11:39.550
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Okay.
1166
02:11:39.950 --> 02:11:45.809
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: The exhibit at that time will be art by De
Anza students.
1167
02:11:46.020 --> 02:11:49.320
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Each exhibit lasts about 2 to 3 months or
so.
1168
02:11:51.000 --> 02:11:54.350
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, the action here is…
1169
02:11:54.530 --> 02:12:00.449
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: To validate whether one of these dates work
for all of us, or most of us.
1170
02:12:00.760 --> 02:12:07.480
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: I believe, John, you may… Have the honor of
being a chaperone against this thing?
1171
02:12:07.590 --> 02:12:19.720
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: And I want to, just ahead of time, thank you
so much. This is not new. This is on a weekend, you have to go out of
your way for this. So…
1172
02:12:20.850 --> 02:12:26.030
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, may I request if we can look at our
calendars for May 9th, and see if
1173
02:12:26.410 --> 02:12:32.870
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: It works for everybody. That's a Saturday.
We can do it at 11am or so.
1174
02:12:33.430 --> 02:12:37.500
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think, before we jump into that, is
there any…
1175
02:12:40.310 --> 02:12:42.529
Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): We have no sweepers today.
1176
02:12:42.535 --> 02:12:45.015
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. Yes, please proceed.
1177
02:12:45.300 --> 02:12:47.050
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Okay, thank you, Chairman Brian.
1178
02:12:47.210 --> 02:12:50.960
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, can we look at our calendars, please,
for May 9th?
1179
02:12:52.370 --> 02:12:53.669
Quinlan Conf Room: I've actually been involved.
1180
02:12:57.340 --> 02:13:00.170
Quinlan Conf Room: Boom, if the majority is, obviously, it's good.
1181
02:13:01.010 --> 02:13:04.230
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm okay with the 9th. Yeah, I'm okay with
the length.
1182
02:13:06.000 --> 02:13:09.089
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, it looks like 4 of us are okay,
assuming you are.
1183
02:13:09.340 --> 02:13:10.560
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Yes, I am.
1184
02:13:10.710 --> 02:13:18.369
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, May 9th, Let's target 11 AM. John, I'll
communicate to you so you can…
1185
02:13:18.550 --> 02:13:26.530
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Once I have this time confirmed with the
curator, Diana Albright, Sorry, go ahead, Lisa.
1186
02:13:26.530 --> 02:13:29.860
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I thought there were 3 date options. Yes.
1187
02:13:30.170 --> 02:13:31.589
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Oh, yes, yes, yes.
1188
02:13:31.990 --> 02:13:37.260
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: So, but if everybody can make it on May 9,
then are we good with that?
1189
02:13:37.840 --> 02:13:40.170
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioner Aurora was not available.
1190
02:13:40.170 --> 02:13:43.679
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Oh, my apologies, I could not hear you,
Commissioner Rora.
1191
02:13:43.960 --> 02:13:45.460
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, Sydney, yes.
1192
02:13:46.030 --> 02:13:48.720
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: My apologies. May 23rd?
1193
02:13:50.380 --> 02:13:52.320
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Saturday? 23rd.
1194
02:13:52.980 --> 02:13:57.340
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): That is Memorial Day. Yeah, the 25th.
1195
02:13:59.540 --> 02:14:02.779
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): What, roughly what time of day are we
talking?
1196
02:14:03.400 --> 02:14:07.980
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Probably around 11, but, you know, between
11 and 4, I believe they are open.
1197
02:14:08.560 --> 02:14:12.039
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): This is 3 days, May 9th, May 27th?
1198
02:14:12.470 --> 02:14:16.859
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: May 9th, May 23rd, and May 30th.
1199
02:14:17.480 --> 02:14:18.440
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): 30.
1200
02:14:18.800 --> 02:14:27.550
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): I vote to make search. Yeah, both me and
Tony said, I'm out of town. You're out of town, yeah. Okay.
1201
02:14:28.830 --> 02:14:29.720
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thanks.
1202
02:14:30.440 --> 02:14:32.629
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, that's that. I think it's amazing.
1203
02:14:32.630 --> 02:14:33.360
Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
1204
02:14:33.360 --> 02:14:36.479
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'm okay for the other day. 30th is good
for me as well.
1205
02:14:36.485 --> 02:14:39.714
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): well, John? 10.
1206
02:14:40.725 --> 02:14:51.154
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): My daughter's a swim team, I'm the starter
announcer for the swim team, so I got options. Make sure, let me make
sure, I'll get back to you on that, but…
1207
02:14:51.825 --> 02:14:53.254
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): seems hypothetically. Okay.
1208
02:14:53.415 --> 02:14:54.625
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): What is it?
1209
02:14:54.775 --> 02:14:55.905
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): April?
1210
02:14:56.095 --> 02:14:56.905
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Brilliant.
1211
02:14:57.620 --> 02:15:00.509
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Picture Ponda should be available on the
30th.
1212
02:15:00.510 --> 02:15:03.569
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, yeah, I'm available at 3, any day,
any day that you pick is fine.
1213
02:15:04.215 --> 02:15:04.865
Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's actually…
1214
02:15:04.865 --> 02:15:17.905
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): as a commission, we can say 30th is a
preference, but John needs to check his schedule, and then maybe, can we
align on a secondary date if that doesn't end up working? I think the
20th.
1215
02:15:18.585 --> 02:15:24.574
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): 23rd, commissioner Schein, you said you're
out of town, right?
1216
02:15:24.575 --> 02:15:28.495
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): She's out of town, 9th and… Okay. From
9th, so I'm okay.
1217
02:15:28.935 --> 02:15:29.815
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Right.
1218
02:15:30.380 --> 02:15:42.630
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Then, yeah, so as a secondary, let's
pencil in the 23rd. Commissioner Chen is not able to attend, but it does
look like the rest of the four of us will.
1219
02:15:42.930 --> 02:15:44.200
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Don, do you have it?
1220
02:15:45.320 --> 02:15:49.980
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Not on the 23rd yet, so I'm checking with
the boss right now.
1221
02:15:52.350 --> 02:15:52.790
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
1222
02:15:52.790 --> 02:15:53.430
Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Excuse me.
1223
02:15:55.200 --> 02:15:56.280
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you.
1224
02:15:57.740 --> 02:15:59.000
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, Monday.
1225
02:16:00.310 --> 02:16:03.130
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So, final… is it early final 30th?
1226
02:16:03.430 --> 02:16:04.830
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So.
1227
02:16:05.090 --> 02:16:11.099
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think what we've agreed on is, at least
from the Commissioner's standpoint, we prefer the 30th.
1228
02:16:11.480 --> 02:16:16.370
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): As our top priority, because I think all
five of us
1229
02:16:16.470 --> 02:16:25.999
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Commissioners are able to join at this
time. John's gonna double-check his schedule. If the 30th does not work,
then our second
1230
02:16:26.140 --> 02:16:31.690
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Preference would be the 23rd, which 4
commissioners will be able to attend.
1231
02:16:34.440 --> 02:16:35.899
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): That must have took it.
1232
02:16:40.170 --> 02:16:41.070
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
1233
02:16:46.670 --> 02:16:51.679
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do we formal… Lindsay, do we need to
motion, or are we done?
1234
02:16:52.100 --> 02:16:55.020
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think I can just put it as a discussion
limit.
1235
02:16:55.135 --> 02:16:57.224
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's definitely good. Alright.
1236
02:16:57.424 --> 02:16:57.985
Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you.
1237
02:16:57.985 --> 02:16:59.485
Speaker 7 (Quinlan Conf Room): all.
1238
02:16:59.485 --> 02:17:00.245
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): No, no, no.
1239
02:17:00.245 --> 02:17:00.974
Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): Moving on to start.
1240
02:17:00.980 --> 02:17:16.060
Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Staff and Commission reports. Do we have
any reports? So, this is a time, for staff and any commissioners to share
any reports pertaining to the Commission's jurisdiction. Staff, have any
reports? Yeah.
1241
02:17:16.330 --> 02:17:24.960
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): None, other than, the possibility of
having another development art piece coming in May.
1242
02:17:25.650 --> 02:17:36.009
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Specifically the Summerhill project on
Seamless Creek Boulevard, where Pizza Hut is. They're coming in very
early on in the process. They don't even have building permits issued
yet.
1243
02:17:38.360 --> 02:17:41.440
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is the construction of Visa has space?
There's gonna be, yeah.
1244
02:17:41.450 --> 02:17:42.600
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Or new, development.
1245
02:17:42.605 --> 02:17:46.924
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, demolished Fontana, Staples, and so
on. Oh, what, what kind.
1246
02:17:46.934 --> 02:17:48.524
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): development. Townhomes.
1247
02:17:48.644 --> 02:17:51.964
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Look, you know, commercial place, right?
Yeah.
1248
02:17:51.969 --> 02:17:56.089
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): All shot and have nice townhomes… shot
townhomes in there.
1249
02:17:56.094 --> 02:17:59.154
Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Is it allowed that way? Because commercial
to…
1250
02:17:59.155 --> 02:17:59.915
Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Residential?
1251
02:17:59.955 --> 02:18:02.504
Speaker 3 (Quinlan Conf Room): Council already approved, yeah. Oh, wow.
1252
02:18:11.670 --> 02:18:30.579
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I do have a commissioner's report for you.
Yeah, okay. So, I did attend the Mayor and Commission Chair's meeting on
March 18th, because, Chairman and Vice Chair, Lamba were not developers,
so they asked me, and I did report
1253
02:18:30.730 --> 02:18:36.020
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): on our… There were 3 bullet items.
1254
02:18:37.820 --> 02:18:52.929
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): One was about the art assets and
inventory, and so we got very good feedback, and this was chaired by,
Mayor Kitty Moore, who's now the… for this year, has taken a mayorship.
So she really commended
1255
02:18:52.930 --> 02:18:59.090
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Our commission for that, and she did
mention that she would like to see that in the arm.
1256
02:18:59.870 --> 02:19:02.559
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): art, tour.
1257
02:19:02.680 --> 02:19:05.819
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Act, if that would be possible.
1258
02:19:06.950 --> 02:19:09.620
Quinlan Conf Room: So, I commend you both for…
1259
02:19:10.500 --> 02:19:19.899
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): for that appreciation. We reported on
Artist Awards, we all know, it was a success. And,
1260
02:19:20.129 --> 02:19:37.940
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): we did report that, the Bianchi Way Public
Art is going to be in front of the commission today, as it was. I did add
one more thing, was, because, March was declared as the Youth Art
1261
02:19:38.180 --> 02:19:43.139
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): months, Mayor had invited
1262
02:19:43.200 --> 02:19:52.080
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): As commissioners, to come and attend, and
the artists who were awarded through artists program were recognized
1263
02:19:52.080 --> 02:20:10.109
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And brought it… brought on the podium, and
got to take a picture, and, received, appreciation from the mayor. So,
that was really extra and nice for Arts and College Commission. So, yeah.
And overall, from others, I'm happy to share this, but I think the most…
1264
02:20:10.170 --> 02:20:13.310
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): A remarkable,
1265
02:20:13.490 --> 02:20:20.380
Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): change I saw, or maybe… I don't know
whether it's going to be every time, but this time,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Mayor, gave a report.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): on what's happening, key things happening
in the city. So I thought that was very good, because otherwise the
commissioners shared, and we got the feedback, but this was also… she had
a full prepared presentation with PowerPoints, in fact, and.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh.
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Speaker 10 (Quinlan Conf Room): Something to.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): a takeaway for us to know, and I don't
know whether you can do anything about it, but, she did say how our city
is contributing in a big proportion towards Santa Clara County at the
county level, from our property taxes. So, I think I really commend her
for
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): diving so deep into the financials to see,
how does this all prorate, with our earnings and with our role, and what
do we get back from the county. So I think she's fighting a really good
case for the city.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): What is she fighting for? Just to kill.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): get more funds from the county for the
city? Oh, okay. More than many of the other cities.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's good. Very
good.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, so she's a good champion. Yeah.
That's what I saw. Other commissions, lots going on, of course. We have a
very lively, commission group, so yeah, you get really good feedback and
inputs, which is good. That's… everyone's doing their job, so I
appreciate that.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Thank you. I left the others. Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Do we have any other, Commissioner
updates?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): No. Okay, moving on to future agenda
setting, any topics that, anyone would like to see at a future meeting?
Treasure hunt. Treasure hunt.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): 10%.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): international RP Festival, usually in the
summer they have it, in front of library, multicultural festival. Then we
can have it. I have to find the date. I think it was in May.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Maine, huh? Oh, so it's in me, not voice.
It's me.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): So that we can connect with them, and…
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, is it okay if I approach them and
ask them for some time for treasure? So, if it's in May, I don't.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): I'll drink water.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): just the timing doesn't work out because
our next commission meeting is in May. However, you are welcome to, I
mean, just, like, fun with it. Yeah.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): It's okay. See, either way is fine. If we
can get some time, we can discuss how to use it, if we… if we get the
time. I mean, I'm very positive. Then, if it is before or after it, then
that's the only difference.
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): connect of… I mean, I can talk John, and
John can tell everything. Yeah, maybe, maybe… We can connect virtually,
yeah, we can see how we can do it, right? So I'll go ahead and ask the
date.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Any other topics?
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): But.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): I think the topic that you were… we had
there on the list, which we couldn't capture in the motion, is engaging
more with our community, brainstorming. I think that was,
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): the world that it shows that it's, yeah,
it was…
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Thank you, Commissioner Road. I'd forgotten
about that.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): Yeah, of course. No, and the chair also
was trying to get that formulated.
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Speaker 5 (Quinlan Conf Room): And I think it's… it's the right thing to
do. We are… it's our role, and let's make it more specific in that
meeting, yeah. Or how do we want to approach it?
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): However you want to approach it, yeah.
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Anybody get a second for that?
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Speaker 11 (Quinlan Conf Room): Second.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Oh, and I guess I can second, mission upon
this, and that's what earlier.
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Speaker 2 (Quinlan Conf Room): What was… Commissioner Pendo, what was
your future agenda?
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Speaker 9 (Quinlan Conf Room): I suggested we should have a treasure
hunt, treasure hunt in the future, celebrations of Cupertino, and my
suggestion was the first event that comes to… Multicultural Festival in
every events, if something comes up, I'll update, Johan.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Yeah, there's emotions.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Sick.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Second.
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Quinlan Conf Room: Standard.
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Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): Sure. Okay. Well, okay.
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay, I think that's it for now. If you
have any other ideas, please feel free to just message me, or John, and
we can potentially get it on to…
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Speaker 1 (Quinlan Conf Room): All right, the time is 8.55 PM, and I can
call this meeting adjourned. We made it, we made it.
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Speaker 12 (Quinlan Conf Room): Okay.
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Gurmeet Lamba, Commissioner: Thank you all. I think this was a fantastic
meeting, and I really… common, each commissioner here.