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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Good evening, it is 552, and I call this May 5th, 2026 Special Meeting of the Cupertino City Council to order.
200:00:36.040 --> 00:00:38.359Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Madam City Clerk, will you please call the roll?
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Councilmember Fruen. Here.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Towns, Vice Mayor Chao?
600:00:48.470 --> 00:00:51.140Community Hall: Here? Mayor Moore? Here.
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): And,
800:00:53.293 --> 00:01:11.472Speaker 2 (Community Hall): As a reminder, Mayor and Councilmembers, Councilmember Wong is participating remotely this evening, and he will be arriving a little late. I also want to make a note to members of the public that as of today, we have not heard from any members of the public that they plan to participate in tonight's meeting from Councilmember Wong's remote location.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, thank you. Our one item is the study session on Silicon Valley Hopper, with a program overview and proposed strategy for future grant funding. Madam City Manager, do we have a report?
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you, Mayor. So with this study session, staff will provide an update on
the Silicon Valley.
1100:01:28.570 --> 00:01:40.080Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Hopper program this evening, including an overview of service, performance, and a strategy for future grant funding. No Council action is required. However, staff is requesting Council's support
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00:01:40.080 --> 00:01:56.340Speaker 3 (Community Hall): the pursuit of any grant opportunities for a potential program continuation. Staff would return to Council for acceptance of any potential grant awards in the future, and with that, I will turn it over to Public Works staff, David Stillman and Matt Schrader to present this item.
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Try, try again, Mac.
1400:02:09.979 --> 00:02:14.799Speaker 3 (Community Hall): just… Is it… Hmm?
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Vidy, are you able to assist with, the staff mics?
1600:02:20.170 --> 00:02:21.070Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Handels.
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Are they live now? There's a…
1800:02:28.710 --> 00:02:31.270Speaker 1 (Community Hall): There's a handheld mic on the lectern.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Alright.
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00:02:43.810 --> 00:02:49.280Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Evening, Council. Mayor Moore, my name is Matt Schrader, Senior Transportation Planner, and .
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): As City Manager said, I'm going to be providing an update on the program, as
well as a proposed strategy for potential future grant funding. So, if video could please share screen so I can
present here.
2200:03:13.640 --> 00:03:15.220Speaker 4 (Community Hall): You seen the presentation yet?
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Nope.
2400:03:27.550 --> 00:03:28.580Speaker 4 (Community Hall): There we go.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, taking a step back, the program started in 2019 as an 18-month pilot
program. It was originally just within the City of Cupertino, as well as service to El Camino Hospital and
2700:03:44.810 --> 00:03:57.620Speaker 4 (Community Hall): the Sunnyvale Caltrain station. Here we see two previous vehicles that we had, the original vehicle on the far left, and then the vehicle that was brought in fleet, following COVID, where we paused service.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, here is what the service area looked like. We went to everywhere in Cupertino.
2900:04:04.130 --> 00:04:10.600Speaker 4 (Community Hall): As well as El Camino Hospital here off of Cuesta, and then over to the Sunnyvale Caltrain station.
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00:04:11.940 --> 00:04:30.130Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Then, as that, program was, beginning to end, staff looked for possible funding opportunities and potential partners. So to secure that funding, we partnered with the City of Santa Clara to pursue a Transit and Intercity Rail Capital Program grant.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And we were awarded that funding, which allowed for us to expand service in
two phases over four years. So the first phase is, Phase 1 expansion, and that was adding the Mountain View
Caltrain station, and everywhere in Santa Clara that is south of the Caltrain alignment here. So that
includes…
3200:04:50.440 --> 00:04:51.600Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Valley Fair.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): The university, as well as the transit center.
3400:04:55.260 --> 00:04:59.049Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And, many different residential neighborhoods.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): The vehicle fleet is all electric. We have 12 vehicles and 1 spare. We also have
3 wheelchair-accessible vehicles.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Here's what the vehicles look like. We have the sedan here on the left, and
then our EV waves. So these can accommodate 5 passengers and 1 wheelchair.
3700:05:23.310 --> 00:05:29.550Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, within the app, we also have additional information to assist riders who are
trying to link to transit.
3800:05:29.660 --> 00:05:38.949Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So we've added the GTFS feed for Caltrain, so you can do in-app trip planning, and we're also working on getting Clipper Card integration later this year.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So here's kind of a zoomed-in view. I know we just looked at that, but we also
go to Rancho San Antonio, which I didn't highlight.
4000:05:48.030 --> 00:06:05.210Speaker 4 (Community Hall): If you want to get out to Fremont Older, you can do that off of the Regnar Road entrance, and if you're trying to avoid parking over at Valley Fair, you can do that. And then we have folks that connect through ACE and Amtrak, and that's accessible at the Santa Clara Transit Center.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Fares are $3.50, and a discounted rate's available for students, seniors, low-
income folks, and people with disabilities. And if you're traveling with additional riders, it's one extra dollar.
4200:06:19.180 --> 00:06:31.690Speaker 4 (Community Hall): It's a commuter service, so Monday through Friday, 7 to 7, 9 to 5 on Saturdays, and no Sunday service. There are students that use the service. You need to be 13 years old in
order to ride alone.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, unlike Uber and Lyft, which is a door-to-door service, SV Hopper is a
corner-to-corner model, so we'll pick you up and drop you off at the nearest street corner, and this is what it
looks like on the back end. So, you can see we have really strong coverage, and the average walking distance is about 250 feet.
4500:07:03.010 --> 00:07:09.229Speaker 4 (Community Hall): When using the app, if you haven't seen this, you just download it, very similar to Uber, put in your payment method.
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Tarun, he's gonna be arriving in the blue Kia Niro.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And because it's a rideshare service, you are going to be picking up people along the way who are traveling to similar destinations.
4800:07:29.630 --> 00:07:47.090Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, in this scenario here, the wait time is 21 minutes, and that's because this
driver is going to be dropping someone off at De Anza College, or picking someone up, making a pickup drop
off over here off Mary Avenue, and doing the same at DeAnza and Homestead, and then coming to pick you
up at City Hall.
4900:07:49.760 --> 00:08:01.050Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, in terms of program funding, we have secured additional grant funding beyond what was awarded through our TERSIP Cycle 5 award. Almost 60% of the program is funded through grants.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And then the remaining amount here is shared between Santa Clara and Cupertino, and that is based off of, the geographic share. So, based on the size of Cupertino's operating area.
5100:08:13.800 --> 00:08:25.739Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And the City of Santa Clara's operating area. And starting in July, those values
kind of shift as Santa Clara is going to be responsible for more costs, because it's going to be a larger service
area.
5200:08:27.940 --> 00:08:33.009Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And now looking at ridership here. So this chart on the right shows…
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Ridership by month since we launched in July 1st, 2023, up until where we're
at last month in, you know, April of this year.
5400:08:45.890 --> 00:08:57.760Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, this spike is showing the VTA strike that happened last year in March, where we were successful in kind of retaining riders that were brought in, to the SVHopper service after that.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And when comparing our February ridership to February of last year, you can
see that ridership has, you know, steadily increased. And right now, we're averaging about 9,000 riders per month.
5600:09:12.130 --> 00:09:16.450Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Interestingly, so because there's such strong student ridership.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, looking in now at where people are going, we know that 1 in 10 trips start
or end at the Caltrain stations, so this would be the Mountain View Station, Sunnyvale Station, and the Santa Clara Station, and these are destinations. So, these are completed trips.
5900:09:47.970 --> 00:10:00.040Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And within the city of Cupertino, the most popular destination is De Anza College, Monta Vista High School, although there is significant demand along De Anza Boulevard.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And then along Stevens Creek, traveling west, we see that the most popular
destination is Valley Fair.
6400:10:36.120 --> 00:10:43.120Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And then, significant demand generated over at the Mountain View Caltrain Station and Sunnyvale Caltrain Station.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, when looking at completed rides, so we have a bunch of information here.
We served over 100,000 rides last year.
6600:10:56.360 --> 00:11:07.460Speaker 4 (Community Hall): This is now looking at, completed rides by day of the week. Our most popular days of the week are Tuesday and Thursday, and then we see a dip, Friday, Saturday.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): When looking at time of day, our peak period coincides with the school bell schedule, although it's pretty steady between noon and 2 as well, so…
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And now, in the lower left, this is a snapshot of what a typical day looks like.
We'll receive 511 ride requests.
7000:11:31.560 --> 00:11:38.839Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Of those 511, 93% of those folks will be presented with a ride option.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And then 63% will complete the ride. 21% will not accept the proposal, likely
because of wait times, or it just doesn't coincide with their schedule. 7% of folks, there's just such strong
demand at certain periods that all of the seats are in use.
7200:11:57.280 --> 00:12:01.540Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And then we do have folks that cancel, as well as no-show.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, here you can kind of see that split. January of last year, 707,600 completed
rides.
7400:12:10.610 --> 00:12:13.739Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And we received 12,000 ride requests.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, wait times vary throughout the day. On average, they're 17 minutes. They
spike in the afternoon, when we're gonna have longer trips, typically associated with those commute trips.
7600:12:27.700 --> 00:12:35.429Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Our shortest, wait times are around noon, so between 10 a.m. and 1PM.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And they're relatively flat throughout the week, so about 17 minutes, Monday
through Thursday, and then they drop, Friday and Saturday, coinciding with what you saw on the previous chart, in terms of completed rides.
7800:12:52.750 --> 00:13:06.710Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And it is a rideshare service, so the average number of passengers in a vehicle at any time is 1.4, and 47% of all of the trips have some time where it's a shared ride.
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8000:13:21.010 --> 00:13:22.790Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, moving forward.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): The recommended funding approach here, because there's very few grant
programs which can sustain long-term and meaningful funding,
8200:13:32.230 --> 00:13:37.249Speaker 4 (Community Hall): The opportunity that's available now is a TERSIP Cycle 8 application, where we would
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): recommend putting forward a project proposal, in partnership with, ACE. So, it's…
8400:13:44.820 --> 00:14:01.340Speaker 4 (Community Hall): TERSIP, Transit Intercity Rail Capital Program. Its primary goal is really advancing the objectives of the State Rail Plan, so being able to have a partner like ACE, where we can say,
hey, we are not only providing service within the areas that ACE is trying to, like, improve for Slile
8500:14:01.350 --> 00:14:19.939Speaker 4 (Community Hall): first mile, last mile connections, but we have a direct formal partnership with them. It's going to be a more competitive application. So we would make improvements on their two routes that are within our service area, those being the gray and yellow fixed route shuttle service. They currently operate this program, and they're…
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Looking for ways to make some modifications, and we feel like that this would
be a good opportunity and something that's mutually beneficial between the two agencies to move forward.
8700:14:34.710 --> 00:14:49.249Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So tonight, the action we're looking for is just support, so that we can go out and pursue grants, as they become available, and then we would return later in the year or early next year
to report on the outcomes from that.
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8900:14:51.590 --> 00:14:59.489Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Great, thank you, and thank you very much for the comprehensive report. Do
any members of the City Council have questions for the staff?
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Speaker 5 (Community Hall): right now, but there was some indication that Santa Clara is not committed Oh.
9300:15:24.710 --> 00:15:28.759Speaker 5 (Community Hall): on a long-term basis to this program? Is that accurate?
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): That's accurate. We have yet to receive any kind of formal or written support
for continuing to operate SV Hopper in partnership with the city.
9500:15:41.790 --> 00:15:47.610Speaker 5 (Community Hall): So they've, we just had that big ceremony the other day, right? Yes.
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Speaker 5 (Community Hall): And so that was for one year.
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9800:15:54.180 --> 00:15:54.990Speaker 5 (Community Hall): Thanks.
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Speaker 5 (Community Hall): However, good evening, David Silman, Transportation Manager, City of Cupertuno. We are continuing to have discussions.
10000:16:01.530 --> 00:16:14.180Speaker 6 (Community Hall): with Santa Clara about a continued partnership, and they are open to having
those ongoing talks. So even though we've not received any formal commitment from staff or their
leadership, we are continuing to talk to them.
10100:16:15.870 --> 00:16:16.920Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Councilmember Fruan?
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Has there been any discussion of the possibility of formalizing that relationship
in the form of a JPA?
10300:16:24.900 --> 00:16:25.990Speaker 7 (Community Hall): No. Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): So, Sunnyvale and Milkitas was the other.
10600:16:41.130 --> 00:16:44.790Speaker 7 (Community Hall): City has adopted their own micro-shuttle.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Or two startups. So, I… I think they did not use SV Hopper. I'm just curious, do
we have any idea how come they did not consider SV Hopper, and what company they did consider?
10800:17:02.870 --> 00:17:09.630Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Is… is this… Does Santa Clara looking to partner with
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): and the other CTU, because of the partner they are with.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So, we made it clear that this would likely cause some confusion if they wanted
to pursue something independent.
11200:17:36.710 --> 00:17:55.030Speaker 4 (Community Hall): And that's the direction that they headed. They also are going to use a different operating model, where if you request a ride along a route that could be served by VTA service, you're not going to be able to receive that on-demand transit. You'll be prompted to complete that trip through, traditional transit.
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11400:17:59.690 --> 00:18:03.200Speaker 4 (Community Hall): I believe they're gonna move forward with VIA, so, because…
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): we operate with VIA, and they will be operating with VIA.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): down the road, there would be opportunities for integration, and we've kind of
had initial conversations with VIA about what that would look like.
11700:18:16.500 --> 00:18:27.419Speaker 7 (Community Hall): I'm confused. I thought we… we used to have VIA, it was just renamed to SB
Hopper. Correct. Now VIA and SB Hopper are two different things?
11800:18:27.425 --> 00:18:33.074Speaker 4 (Community Hall): No, so VIA, or Nomad LLC, is the company that we contract with to operate the service.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): And so they contract with VIA also, but it's not SB Hopper. Correct.
12000:18:40.290 --> 00:18:43.099Speaker 7 (Community Hall): What does that mean?
12100:18:43.105 --> 00:18:46.344Speaker 4 (Community Hall): It just means that they wanted a separate contract with VIA.
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12300:18:52.250 --> 00:19:03.320Speaker 6 (Community Hall): Yeah, both Sunnyvale and Cupertino contract with Via, or Nomad LLC. We have branded our service SV Hopper, and they will brand theirs, presumably, as something separate.
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00:19:03.320 --> 00:19:06.440Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Even if it's through the same company. Yes.
12500:19:06.620 --> 00:19:10.429Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So, are they providing any fixed routes?
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Or, or it'll be completely on demand.
12700:19:14.130 --> 00:19:20.720Speaker 4 (Community Hall): I believe it will be on demand, but I'm not precisely sure on what their specific service design is.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): meal pitas. Any information?
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Milpitas operates a model where they have designated stops within the city, so
I think they have something like 50 stops, so when you request a ride, you'll have to go in and look at which stop you want to go to.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): So it's not like our model, where we have
13100:19:38.665 --> 00:19:43.004Speaker 4 (Community Hall): almost complete corner-to-corner coverage. They're… they have designated stuff.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So, it's like we have smaller grid that have a bigger grid.
13300:19:47.555 --> 00:19:50.574Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Phe, and… For the CT.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): It's a different grid. Yeah.
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13600:19:55.630 --> 00:19:57.399Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Alright, Councilmember Mohan?
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Speaker 5 (Community Hall): Yeah, this is, I had a suggestion,
13800:20:02.300 --> 00:20:13.099Speaker 5 (Community Hall): recommendation, and you may have explored this already, but West Valley Community Services runs another microtransit operation called RIDE.
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Speaker 5 (Community Hall): And that's, from what I hear, that's… it's a… it's a county-funded program, but with all the county budget problems, I'm hearing that that could be defunded, if not this year, pretty soon. So, is that something we could tap into, or…
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Speaker 5 (Community Hall): extend, Our operations to encompass that.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Okay.
14300:20:42.500 --> 00:20:51.389Speaker 5 (Community Hall): Thank you. I think you'll have to go through West Valley Community Services.
Okay. But the last time I talked about this program, they said it was on the verge of being,
14400:20:51.610 --> 00:20:52.590Speaker 5 (Community Hall): canceled.
14500:20:54.170 --> 00:20:57.189Speaker 5 (Community Hall): Thank you, I'd appreciate that if you could make some outreach.
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14700:20:58.435 --> 00:21:15.465Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you. I had heard that ride was pretty expensive, and the clientele needs a lot of assistance, getting to the vehicles, and… which drives up the cost. Last I heard, it was over $100 per
trip.
14800:21:15.725 --> 00:21:18.755Speaker 1 (Community Hall): To run the RIDE program.
14900:21:18.925 --> 00:21:30.404Speaker 1 (Community Hall): But I… I am interested in what the future holds with us and Sunnyvale,
considering that they're using VIA. I had heard something,
15000:21:30.445 --> 00:21:42.885Speaker 1 (Community Hall): to the effect that the way their grant was put together, that they wouldn't be able to, connect into Cupertino, and it might have something to do with VTAs, having some
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): I don't know if they're… if they helped them get their grant, or… or… it seems
like that's some of the reason for why that if there's a fixed route from VTA, that you need to go to a VTA,
15200:21:54.555 --> 00:21:56.115Speaker 1 (Community Hall): line.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Do you know something about that?
15400:21:58.685 --> 00:22:01.874Speaker 4 (Community Hall): bit. So, they're kind of unique in the sense that they…
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00:22:02.065 --> 00:22:16.664Speaker 4 (Community Hall): have two services, one that's operating currently in Pearie Park, and then this other one, which will launch citywide later in the fall. And it's our understanding that they just thought that they could put together a more compelling grant proposal.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): by saying we're not going to be potentially cannibalizing transit trips. So that's why they made that, design choice.
15700:22:25.280 --> 00:22:30.309Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, thank you. At this time, Vice Mayor, did you ask?
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): One more question I forgot to ask. Thank you for all the data that you provide, really.
15900:22:36.605 --> 00:22:47.024Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Good. And I think I forgot to ask one thing. We know the number of trips that has increased. How about the number of unique riders?
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16100:22:51.925 --> 00:22:59.725Speaker 4 (Community Hall): No, so we do monitor accounts created, and there are new accounts created every day, and it's kind of…
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00:22:59.885 --> 00:23:10.685Speaker 4 (Community Hall): It's been interesting to watch, because it's typically associated, especially when we do marketing campaigns, so there is a effect that we see after those campaigns.
16300:23:10.685 --> 00:23:27.704Speaker 7 (Community Hall): But do we know how many of those accounts actually continue to use? For
example, I signed up, took the trip, and I signed up before, but my phone died, couldn't take the drive, and
then I signed up again, and then the first time.
16400:23:27.825 --> 00:23:31.754Speaker 7 (Community Hall): the driver… I waited for a while, the car didn't come.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): And then I call the number, then I find out, oh, I need to go to the corner, but
it's not shown on the map, so it's a bit… the user experience is a bit…
16600:23:42.375 --> 00:23:53.625Speaker 7 (Community Hall): frustrating, because I have used Uber before. It was very clear that here is the
route you need to walk to the pickup location. That wasn't clear on the…
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): and Hopper app.
16800:23:55.705 --> 00:24:05.784Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So I wonder if that kind of initial user experience might have discouraged some new user from using it again.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Yeah, so we know how many riders have completed more than 5 trips, 10 trips, 25 trips. We have riders that have completed
17000:24:15.635 --> 00:24:23.364Speaker 4 (Community Hall): several hundred trips, and we can provide that data. I just don't have it in front
of me. Yeah, that's funny. Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Mayor, at this time, I don't see any requests to speak in person, but I do see
two requests to speak virtually. Okay. So we will first call on Peggy Griffin, followed by San Rao.
17300:24:42.780 --> 00:24:56.160Speaker 2 (Community Hall): And as a reminder to members of the public wishing to speak on this item shall submit a request to speak or raise their hand virtually within the first 9 minutes of the start of public comment, or before the public comment period is closed, whichever comes first. So we will welcome Peggy.
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Peggy Griffin: Good evening, Mayor… Mayor Moore, Vice Mayor Chao, Council Members and Staff. I am a
user of Hopper, and I'm also a senior, and recently I've had four, experiences with Hopper.
17500:25:14.770 --> 00:25:17.530Peggy Griffin: So I want to tell you that,
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Peggy Griffin: I think that the… the cost of the rides needs to increase.
17700:25:24.220 --> 00:25:33.889Peggy Griffin: Significantly. $1.75 for a ride and a dollar for every passenger you add is not enough.
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Peggy Griffin: It's too low.
17900:25:36.350 --> 00:25:39.800Peggy Griffin: The other thing is that,
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Peggy Griffin: I was trying to… in two of the four rides that I've taken recently, I was teaching people how to
use Hopper.
18100:25:48.010 --> 00:25:56.030Peggy Griffin: And in hopes that they could go to the doctors by themselves, because they had lost the ability to drive.
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Peggy Griffin: And…
18300:25:58.330 --> 00:26:10.490Peggy Griffin: I did it in the afternoon. My husband and I use it in the morning, because our… we only have one car, and when it breaks down, we take it to the car and car repair, and we go and get it.
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Peggy Griffin: But these people had appointments in the afternoon for doctors, and it didn't work out real well. One of the problems was when we got to,
18500:26:25.300 --> 00:26:28.590Peggy Griffin: One of the doctors was Cupertino Podiatry.
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Peggy Griffin: right in the heart of Cupertino, and… They dropped us off okay.
18700:26:34.800 --> 00:26:36.910Peggy Griffin: But, picking us up.
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Peggy Griffin: It took 20 minutes of no ride available before she even got an offer for a ride.
18900:26:46.150 --> 00:26:50.799Peggy Griffin: And then the ride was 31 minutes for a wait.
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Peggy Griffin: So, it was… 50 minutes before she even got a car to pick her up.
19100:26:57.940 --> 00:27:08.020Peggy Griffin: So I think you need to, you know, in addition to the average wait time, how long is the… how often do people get rejected?
19200:27:08.680 --> 00:27:19.509Peggy Griffin: I didn't realize that. In the morning, you're less likely to be rejected, but in the afternoon, it can go 20 minutes before you even get a ride offer at all.
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Peggy Griffin: And I've been considering… there's certain places in the area, El Camino Hospital, Kaiser Hospital.
19400:27:28.560 --> 00:27:35.969Peggy Griffin: Rancho, where parking is scarce, and so it's ideal to take Hopper, but
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Peggy Griffin: getting there and getting back in the afternoon, I was told that you shouldn't ask for a ride
19600:27:42.730 --> 00:27:48.219Peggy Griffin: You need to have at least an hour before they close to even ask for a ride.
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Peggy Griffin: So if they close at 7, you better ask by 6.
19800:27:52.570 --> 00:27:55.150Peggy Griffin: And maybe you'll get a ride.
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Peggy Griffin: So, I want you to think about that.
20000:27:58.650 --> 00:28:03.279Peggy Griffin: I also was told the people who are drivers are very friendly.
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Peggy Griffin: But, You have… I'm running out of time. Anyway…
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20300:28:14.140 --> 00:28:17.090Peggy Griffin: How much is Cupertino in Santa Clara?
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Peggy. That is your time.
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Next, we will welcome San Rao. Welcome.
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San Rao: Good evening, Mayor Moore, Vice Mayor Chao, Councilmembers, speaking on behalf of myself only as a resident.
20700:28:30.540 --> 00:28:36.839San Rao: I want to appreciate the great presentation by Matt Schroeder and David Stillman. It's nice to see
them
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00:28:36.910 --> 00:28:54.510San Rao: present on something other than bike trains, when they do present on something that is more useful to the community, I think we see how… how productive this conversation can be. I have sent you feedback previously on this topic. However, I did poll the community. I polled,
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San Rao: Over 500 Cupertino voters.
21000:28:57.580 --> 00:28:59.490San Rao: verified Cupertino borders.
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San Rao: And I got very positive feedback. Of course, engagement was low.
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00:29:05.260 --> 00:29:11.280San Rao: But I had, over 10 say that they knew what it was.
21300:29:11.550 --> 00:29:24.500San Rao: I had close to 10 say that they have the app installed, have written at least once, and some have
written a few times a year, and they have kids writing, at least 4 had kids writing, and at least 7 said they
want the hopper to be funded.
21400:29:24.500 --> 00:29:31.870San Rao: Most of that feedback came from parents of our high schoolers, and so keeping an open mind to this, I want to
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San Rao: I want to give you a few ideas to think about. It is interesting that much of the ridership is De Anza
College, which matches what I see.
21600:29:39.680 --> 00:29:52.289San Rao: And, I'd like you to see if you can partner with FHDA to see if FHDA can co-fund this, or FHDA can provide you grants so that the program benefits DeAnza as well as our high schools.
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San Rao: I'd also like to see if you might approach this differently, and rather than move broad and
outwards towards Santa Clara and other destinations, and maybe we keep a few, like Caltrain, Caltrain and Valleyfair, but rather than move broadly into Santa Clara, should we look at
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San Rao: Partnering with the school districts and FHDA and making this a ridership for school drop and pick
from designated drop and pick zones.
21900:30:18.450 --> 00:30:21.899San Rao: So rather than making this a door-to-door transit like Uber or Lyft.
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San Rao: Can you turn this into a micro-mobility for a school drop and pick at major corridors and set up
designated pick and drop zones so you can run the program efficiently, you can increase ridership, you can
increase and increase the school participations, you can get CUSDFHSD to hopefully co-fund it.
22100:30:40.830 --> 00:30:59.589San Rao: And maybe even extend it to Los Altos or Saratoga for the focused purpose of high school drops and picks. So I encourage you to think out of the box. It is a good program. It should be maintained. We should look for grants and more funding, and we should look at focusing it where it really benefits our
community, which is our seniors and students. Thank you.
22200:31:05.550 --> 00:31:10.049Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, San. And Mayor, that concludes the request to speak on this item this evening.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Great.
22400:31:10.855 --> 00:31:29.784Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you very much. Do we have any further comments from the Council? I do think that the, the request that the cost of the rides increases is significantly is interesting, and the rider education, it seems like
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Perhaps a video, educational video could be hosted on our website that could
help, with that. And I'm curious about the rejection rate. Could you speak to that, what that means?
22600:31:47.920 --> 00:32:06.390Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Yes, so that rejection rate is the seat unavailability rate, so that was the 7% figure in that, daily snapshot, so that happens during peak periods where all of the seats are full. Again, when we're running a full fleet, we have 12 vehicles on the road, so…
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): just high demand. We have a ride request every minute on a workday.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Alright, thank you. Next, I see, Vice Mayor.
22900:32:20.240 --> 00:32:25.429Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Thank you. So… Yeah, I… I…
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23100:32:34.610 --> 00:32:49.739Speaker 7 (Community Hall): the… the wait time is very long, and then it is… you… you might not even get
offered a ride. And once I got a ride, I was at the end of the answer, and… but then it would take…
23200:32:50.360 --> 00:32:57.370Speaker 7 (Community Hall): 20… more than 20 minutes, and the car was driving… Getting stuck on 85.
23300:32:57.750 --> 00:33:01.280Speaker 7 (Community Hall): And so they are getting stuck under traffic.
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23500:33:05.430 --> 00:33:16.209Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Is it possible that during peak hours, we prioritize local rights so that people who are taking shorter city ride close
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23700:33:32.130 --> 00:33:35.660Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Making the program less sustainable.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): proposal that they've brought to us that they've done in other markets, and
we're still talking about it, is maybe we can connect those rides through other TNCs, so that ride to the
Sunnyvale Station would be carried by
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Depending on where it is, maybe a Waymo, maybe an Uber or a Lyft, because
having a vehicle be drawn out of our core service area would… is just gonna have…
24100:34:13.810 --> 00:34:16.560Speaker 4 (Community Hall): It's gonna drive up our wait times, as we were talking about here.
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24300:34:22.069 --> 00:34:39.679Speaker 7 (Community Hall): if there is existing VTA route, and they direct you through that, it's good, but maybe not refusing, but maybe priorities. For example, we see a lot more usage along the ENSA, because
there is probably
24400:34:39.779 --> 00:34:53.359Speaker 7 (Community Hall): less VTA bus available, you'll see less, less demand usage along Stevens Creek. I'm guessing it's not because there are less users, but because there are more bus rides available.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So, for example, once I took it, also trying to get from Diana to the City Hall, to
the library, and, I requested,
24600:35:03.909 --> 00:35:05.939Speaker 7 (Community Hall): SV Hopper first.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): And the wait time was so long, and then I eventually took a bus and canceled
the ride. Had to pay $1.
24800:35:13.649 --> 00:35:23.469Speaker 7 (Community Hall): But then… then I find out, oh, actually, some routes, the bus is a better option, and there are… the frequency was really good.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So, maybe then we can deprioritize those requesting rights along Stevens
Creek, so they are more likely to seek other options. That way we can have better,
25000:35:38.109 --> 00:35:44.479Speaker 7 (Community Hall): service for those areas that has less BTA surveys, so is it possible for
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): SV Hopper to support this kind of prioritization.
25200:35:50.310 --> 00:35:51.200Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Yes.
25300:35:51.420 --> 00:36:05.449Speaker 4 (Community Hall): maybe not prioritization, but we can certainly provide VTA timetables within the app, and then those routes can be visualized and provide you with a different trip alternatives, so that's something that VIA can definitely do.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So…
25600:36:19.120 --> 00:36:31.980Speaker 7 (Community Hall): The thing is, if, say, two person requests right at the same time, one is, near Stevens Creek, one is in an area that doesn't have VTA rights, do they get the same priority?
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Or does it depend on how close they are to other existing vehicles?
25800:36:41.130 --> 00:37:00.789Speaker 4 (Community Hall): I'm not completely falling, but in this scenario, it would really just apply to if a ride can be easily completed by existing transit. So, if you're on Stevens Creek, or you're on Wolf and Miller, or De Anza Boulevard, and you wanted to complete a trip that would be along one of those corridors, we could present that information within the app.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): as a… potentially quicker alternative.
26000:37:05.045 --> 00:37:09.695Speaker 7 (Community Hall): what I'm requesting is not only presenting an option, but
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Giving the other requests to whoever is not a…
26200:37:14.045 --> 00:37:19.494Speaker 7 (Community Hall): requester who is not on Stevens Creek a higher priority in the queue.
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Okay, I see. Yeah, I'm not sure how their algorithm works, but that's
something we can have a conversation with them about.
26400:37:25.945 --> 00:37:29.634Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Okay, so then another comment is,
26500:37:29.895 --> 00:37:35.514Speaker 7 (Community Hall): From my experience, the writers are very friendly, and some of them were former.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Uber drivers, and they decide… I talk to them, they decide with, SV Hopper, they get better job security and normal, better working hours. So they choose to move to SV Hopper.
26700:37:51.245 --> 00:38:00.954Speaker 7 (Community Hall): However, one driver did tell me when he first started on the job, the first day, with no training, he had to start driving.
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26900:38:08.015 --> 00:38:15.324Speaker 4 (Community Hall): with what VIA's driver training protocols are, and something we'll bring up to them. Yeah, thank you.
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27100:38:22.980 --> 00:38:29.559Speaker 8 (Community Hall): comments raised, is whether you've had conversations with the school district
specifically.
27200:38:29.720 --> 00:38:32.740Speaker 8 (Community Hall): Fremont Union High School District on potential
27300:38:32.910 --> 00:38:40.919Speaker 8 (Community Hall): expansion to some of their campuses, I know that there has been a lot of
interest in reaching Limbrook, for example, which is relatively close to the city borders.
27400:38:42.320 --> 00:38:50.089Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Yeah, so we did look at what including Limbrook would cost and presented that information. We also had conversations with
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Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Foothill College,
27600:38:52.890 --> 00:39:00.810Speaker 4 (Community Hall): had VIA model out some scenarios on what that would cost, and neither were interested in moving forward. Okay, thanks.
27700:39:02.740 --> 00:39:14.380Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you. So, the recommended action is that we receive the report and support staff's proposal to pursue a transit and inner-city rail capital program cycle aid application.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): So… the city attorney, what kind of action are… are we hoping to do here? Just kind of a straw poll on whether or not we support the grant funding?
27900:39:25.590 --> 00:39:29.679Speaker 1 (Community Hall): But you could do more than a straw poll, but we really can't take action.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, so… In other words, you could actually have a vote, but, it can't be an action vote.
28100:39:38.920 --> 00:39:42.929Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, so we can vote to support the recommended action?
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Speaker 5 (Community Hall): We could vote to receive it.
28300:39:48.630 --> 00:39:55.049Speaker 9 (Community Hall): Okay, why don't you do a straw poll vote, then? Alright. Because we really should not be taking action in a study session. Okay, so do…
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Do we have, general support for this? I'm seeing nods, yes, yes, I've got 3. Vice Mayor, are you in support of…
28500:40:07.670 --> 00:40:10.690Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So the grant funding is for next year.
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Speaker 6 (Community Hall): Can I just, intervene? I'm sorry, so we would like to be able to pursue not just the TERSIP grant for the next cycle, which we are looking at, but basically any grants or other funding opportunities that might be available to enable us to look at continuing the program beyond the current four years.
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Speaker 6 (Community Hall): And that, just for your assurance, we would come back to you all as a body for
approval of any grants that we would have received.
28800:40:42.510 --> 00:40:57.440Speaker 6 (Community Hall): before accepting, you know, obviously we would have to discuss what the…
what the next phase of the program would look like, so we just need to kind of be able to jump on
opportunities as we see them, because sometimes deadlines approach quickly, and we want to be able to try to find as much money as we can.
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Speaker 6 (Community Hall): Thank you.
29000:40:58.265 --> 00:41:11.565Speaker 1 (Community Hall): we look at the per-ride cost? Because there was that one request that we consider the increasing it. I don't know if we're comparable to other cities providing similar service, but,
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Is that something that you could look into a little bit?
29200:41:16.460 --> 00:41:32.399Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Yes, we can definitely do that. And also, I think maybe we should consider longer rides should the cost should be higher, at least comparable high… comparably higher with, a commercial on-demand shuttle.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): And so that… that way, the offset for the shorter ride, the cost for the shorter
ride will… will be lower also, yeah. I mean…
29400:41:45.160 --> 00:41:57.289Speaker 7 (Community Hall): the cost for the shorter ride could increase, but the cost for the much longer ride should increase much larger. If we can explore that next time it comes back to the Council, that would be great.
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Speaker 6 (Community Hall): Yes, we can investigate that.
29700:42:18.965 --> 00:42:24.844Speaker 7 (Community Hall): But in terms of grant funding, I would prefer we don't use…
29800:42:24.985 --> 00:42:31.835Speaker 7 (Community Hall): don't request funding from, like, congressmen for S.B. Hopper, because I
would hope that
29900:42:32.355 --> 00:42:38.914Speaker 7 (Community Hall): funding from legislators and the Congress is for infrastructure that will last.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): filling a gap of one year, and then it's kind of not… we won't see a sustained
impact. So, I would prefer if we… the grant funding would focus on more, like, transportation retail. I don't
know what the other council members think about that.
30200:43:02.620 --> 00:43:25.809Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Are you done? Yeah. Okay. So the request for… from Congressman Khanna was not for VTA funding, it was for City Hall and Torrey. So this came as a surprise, the $1.2 million, so I don't know where that request came from, but, when I met with him directly, the request was for those…
those capital improvement projects.
30300:43:25.815 --> 00:43:31.025Speaker 7 (Community Hall): That means future funding, not, not… But we're going to pursue.
30400:43:31.360 --> 00:43:43.200Speaker 1 (Community Hall): That gets into grant funding policy, which is kind of out of the scope for this,
but this agenda item doesn't talk about going to the congressman and requesting funding for it.
30500:43:43.205 --> 00:43:43.905Speaker 9 (Community Hall): But then there…
30600:43:43.910 --> 00:43:46.360Speaker 7 (Community Hall): We're talking about all sources.
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30800:43:48.960 --> 00:43:57.469Speaker 6 (Community Hall): any source of funding, because it's not easy to come by, but if there are certain qualifications that Council would like to make for that degree, that would
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31000:44:01.890 --> 00:44:04.300Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Well, we're sort of setting policy right
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): here, with regards to grants. I think…
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): For this particular project, I would prefer that we don't use funding from
legislators or the congressmen, so that
31300:44:20.550 --> 00:44:27.800Speaker 7 (Community Hall): they can be used for other projects, I think that's more. Do we have
concurrence from the other council members?
31400:44:28.490 --> 00:44:37.100Speaker 1 (Community Hall): I have a question for the City Manager. Do you know how the $1.2 million?
31500:44:37.105 --> 00:44:42.474Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Yes, Mayor, I… I do believe I just checked in with… staff did request it last
year.
31600:44:42.665 --> 00:44:43.345Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Okay.
31700:44:43.350 --> 00:44:51.250Speaker 1 (Community Hall): It was a request from last year. Correct. Okay. And do we have an opinion
from staff or the city manager about having
31800:44:51.660 --> 00:44:56.600Speaker 1 (Community Hall): putting a request in for SV Hopper in the future? So…
31900:44:56.605 --> 00:44:59.095Speaker 3 (Community Hall): I think this year there were…
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00:44:59.135 --> 00:45:10.525Speaker 3 (Community Hall): A lot of competing priorities that we'd rather get funding for, and staff went ahead and asked for funding for a couple of other infrastructure-related projects.
32100:45:10.525 --> 00:45:27.225Speaker 3 (Community Hall): So we did not ask for the Hopper funding, although since we're talking about,
you know, various grant opportunities and to further this project, I think it is appropriate if Council wants to
kind of have a more specific general direction on whether or not to go forward.
32200:45:27.225 --> 00:45:31.065Speaker 3 (Community Hall): With that particular, grant funding for this project.
32300:45:31.195 --> 00:45:33.144
Speaker 3 (Community Hall): So if you wanted to exclude
32400:45:33.255 --> 00:45:40.945Speaker 3 (Community Hall): our request from, you know, the, Congressman Khanna's office for the hopper.
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00:45:41.145 --> 00:45:48.905Speaker 3 (Community Hall): but look for other, grant opportunities, we can do so at this meeting, because we are talking about the SV Hopper project.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): I don't have a strong opinion either way. Councilmember Fruen, do you have
an opinion on this? And same with Councilmember Mohan.
32700:45:58.105 --> 00:46:07.514Speaker 8 (Community Hall): In general, you know, when we're off asking for money, sometimes the other side of the equation is interested in giving you things
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Speaker 8 (Community Hall): that you aren't necessarily going to prioritize in the same way. Sort of a beggars-can't-be-choosers situation, so I'm… I'm happy to accept money that people want to give us.
32900:46:18.980 --> 00:46:34.440Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Of course, if there is specific grant program, federal grant program, and for that, for microtransit, that would be different. But what I'm talking about is specific requests, I think, from
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00:46:34.520 --> 00:46:39.159Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Individual councilmen… congressmen, right?
33100:46:40.170 --> 00:46:53.719Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Through the Mayor? Yes. Can I just add one more, detail to that? So, a lot of times, just for information, as you deliberate on this, a lot of times the infrastructure project funding
requests can be very large.
33200:46:53.930 --> 00:46:55.759Speaker 3 (Community Hall): So the only…
33300:46:56.030 --> 00:47:12.099Speaker 3 (Community Hall): benefit to asking and submitting multiple proposals, for example, is that there's
different kinds of grant amounts, right? So this hopper is usually a smaller amount. Infrastructure projects
can be very large, so that's just another information for you to consider.
33400:47:12.265 --> 00:47:15.524Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, and Councilmember Mohan, did you have a thought on this one?
33500:47:16.060 --> 00:47:23.779
Speaker 5 (Community Hall): Yeah, I would… I would, be reluctant to close off any avenues of funding. I
mean,
33600:47:24.120 --> 00:47:27.050Speaker 5 (Community Hall): Whatever funding we can get, we should,
33700:47:27.580 --> 00:47:34.229Speaker 5 (Community Hall): grab. I mean, you… usually, my experience is, you want more than less.
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Speaker 5 (Community Hall): And so I would not, say no to any…
33900:47:39.160 --> 00:47:51.170Speaker 5 (Community Hall): funding, whether it's for the Harper or for anything else. And there is a general fund cost to, the Harper operation, so anything we get would be subsidizing that.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, so that's… that's 2 out of 4, and I'm ambivalent, but I'm gonna lean
towards, if they're gonna provide us money, we…
34100:48:00.530 --> 00:48:22.780Speaker 1 (Community Hall): we're going to accept it, but I do understand that for long-term funding being grant, grant-supported, we need to find something moving forward where we're not continuing to do that, and I think that's probably our biggest challenge, especially since we're 59% grant-funded currently, and we
have only,
34200:48:22.780 --> 00:48:25.919Speaker 1 (Community Hall): 5 minutes left, Vice Mayor, your hands raised?
34300:48:26.470 --> 00:48:32.350Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So for Congressman Funding, I understand, there is…
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00:48:32.970 --> 00:48:44.800Speaker 7 (Community Hall): We… we… there is not really a fixed location, and we usually can make one or two requests, and the CD have to prioritize between different projects to request
34500:48:44.980 --> 00:48:45.910Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Which one?
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00:48:46.200 --> 00:48:55.529Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So… wouldn't… Yeah, so it's really a prioritization from us what we want to ask.
34700:48:56.040 --> 00:49:00.710Speaker 7 (Community Hall): That… It's… it's not like…
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00:49:01.070 --> 00:49:15.400Speaker 7 (Community Hall): because if they give it to… if we prioritize and then put SV Hopper on top, that means the funding could have gone to another project, maybe a building,
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00:49:15.460 --> 00:49:29.469Speaker 7 (Community Hall): bridge repair would then go to SV Helper, but then the general fund has to fund this other infrastructure project. So, we are not losing if we don't ask for SV Hopper.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Yeah, that's my point. Okay. All right. Thank you. So, are we going to consider,
raising the…
35100:49:37.960 --> 00:49:39.880Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Right? So that will come back.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Correct. Okay. Correct. Okay, I'm seeing no further hands raised. This meeting
is adjourned until our 645 regular council meeting.
35300:49:51.110 --> 00:49:51.800Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Good evening, it is 646, and I call this May 5th, 2026, regular meeting of the
Cupertino City Council to order.
35500:54:53.950 --> 00:54:56.959Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Please, if you're able to, stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the
Republic for which it stands, one.
35700:55:07.055 --> 00:55:09.014Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Under God, indivisible.
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Speaker 5 (Community Hall): Liberty and justice for all.
35900:55:15.230 --> 00:55:18.239Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Madam City Clerk, will you please call the roll?
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Councilmember Fruen? Here. Councilmember Mohan? Here. Vice Mayor Chao?
36100:55:23.970 --> 00:55:33.100Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Here. Mayor Moore? Here. And, as a reminder to members of the public and to the Council this evening, Councilmember Wong is participating virtually
36200:55:33.100 --> 00:55:45.510Speaker 2 (Community Hall): This evening, and he will be arriving a little late. As a reminder, as of today, we have not heard from any members of the public that they plan to participate in tonight's meeting from Councilmember Wong's remote location.
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00:55:45.515 --> 00:55:50.014Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you. Madam City Attorney, do we have a closed session report? We do.
36400:55:50.015 --> 00:55:57.944Speaker 9 (Community Hall): This evening, the City Council held a closed session. The item on the agenda was discussed, and there's no reportable action taken. Thank you.
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00:55:59.200 --> 00:56:00.939Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Alright, thank you.
36600:56:05.150 --> 00:56:18.630Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Moving on to ceremonial items, our first item is the recognition of Sannyasi Cheti Momidi Varapu on the occasion of his 100th birthday.
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00:56:19.350 --> 00:56:30.120Speaker 1 (Community Hall): So we have a very special guest tonight. I'm pleased to recognize one of our residents who recently celebrated his 100th birthday on April 20th.
36800:56:30.380 --> 00:56:33.420Speaker 1 (Community Hall): This is a special…
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00:56:38.610 --> 00:56:52.489Speaker 1 (Community Hall): This is a special milestone. Reaching 100 reflects a lifetime of experiences, family, and the opportunity to see a community like Cupertino grow and change over the years.
37000:56:52.490 --> 00:57:00.159Speaker 1 (Community Hall): On behalf of the City Council, happy 100th birthday, and thank you for being
part of our community.
37100:57:00.160 --> 00:57:10.340Speaker 1 (Community Hall): I'd also like to thank our city staff for their help in honoring this special occasion tonight. Madam City Manager, would you like to make some comments?
37200:57:12.090 --> 00:57:25.010
Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to add my congratulations to Mr. Chetty on reaching
this milestone. A 100th birthday is rare and deeply meaningful, not only for the remarkable life that it
represents, but also because
37300:57:25.520 --> 00:57:40.210
Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Because tonight marks the beginning of a new tradition for Cupertino. By
celebrating, we recognize the generations who've helped shape our community, carry its history, and remind us of the value of connection across time. And we're proud to share this first moment with you and your family.
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Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Thank you also to staff for helping with this new tradition, and congratulations
and our very best to you, and we'd like to invite you to take a photo and a certificate from our Mayor and Council.
37500:58:45.820 --> 00:58:50.190Community Hall: Oh, sorry.
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Community Hall: Thank you. Thank you.
37700:59:29.630 --> 00:59:30.330Community Hall: Right.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Can I quickly ask how other people can request this?
37900:59:44.440 --> 00:59:45.949Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Anyway, it's on.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): I voted yes.
38100:59:48.550 --> 00:59:49.070Community Hall: Tim.
38200:59:49.070 --> 00:59:57.480
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Just a quick question for our city manager. If other individuals would like to
have a similar, celebration with Council, how can that happen?
38300:59:57.850 --> 01:00:02.280Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Please reach out to us, we would love to celebrate anybody turning 100 in our city.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Wonderful.
38501:00:05.985 --> 01:00:19.105Speaker 1 (Community Hall): So, our next ceremonial item is the recognition of National Public Service Recognition Week of May 3rd through 9th. It's my honor to recognize Public Service Recognition Week
38601:00:19.195 --> 01:00:33.864Speaker 1 (Community Hall): observed this year from May 3rd through 9th, which spotlights the individuals serving communities at every level of government across the country. Here in Cupertino, that service is visible in many ways.
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01:00:33.865 --> 01:00:40.514Speaker 1 (Community Hall): It means safe and well-lit streets, parks, and public spaces that are cared for.
38801:00:40.515 --> 01:00:47.065Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thoughtful planning for housing and the city's future, and programs and events that bring people together.
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01:00:47.175 --> 01:01:01.224Speaker 1 (Community Hall): It also includes the important work happening behind the scenes, from managing city finances responsibly, to supporting the technology systems residents rely on to access services and information.
39001:01:01.435 --> 01:01:21.095
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Public service is not easy. The work is complex, and the expectations are high.
Even so, Cupertino staff show up with professionalism, dedication, and care for the community they serve.
On behalf of my colleagues on Council.
39101:01:21.255 --> 01:01:23.385Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you for all that you do.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Your work is meaningful, and it's truly appreciated by our residents. Madam
City Manager, would you like to add some comments?
39301:01:35.010 --> 01:01:47.169Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Thank you, Mayor. You said it beautifully, but I did also have a very short script prepared for this. So there's no surprise that we love this tradition in Cupertino, which is celebrating National Public Service Week.
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Speaker 3 (Community Hall): It gives us a moment to pause and appreciate the people who keep everything running, often without much fanfare. Public service is often most powerful when it's least visible.
39501:01:57.840 --> 01:02:22.549Speaker 3 (Community Hall): From safe streets, clean parks, safeguarding our city's resources, keeping
residents informed, and ensuring transparency to legal support, technology advancements, and every
department working in sync. It's a true team effort. Our staff does this work with professionalism and care,
even when balancing limited resources and competing priorities. And knowing what progress does… that
progress does not always equate to everyone
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Speaker 3 (Community Hall): being happy. We are proud to serve a healthy and engaged community, and yes, our staff shows up every day.
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Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Ready to listen, adapt, and keep moving the work forward. We're proud to
serve such an engaged community, and this week is about taking a moment to say, we see you, and we
thank you.
39801:02:39.570 --> 01:02:50.530Speaker 3 (Community Hall): To all city employees, thank you for everything you do, and thank you, Council, for helping shine a light on this work that often goes and goes unnoticed and happens quietly.
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Speaker 3 (Community Hall): I'm honored to accept this proclamation on behalf of our entire city team, but I will ask my executive team and any staff present today to please join me in receiving it. Thank you, and happy Public Service Week!
40001:03:33.880 --> 01:03:34.670Speaker 3 (Community Hall): My dog.
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01:03:42.600 --> 01:03:43.470Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Makes sense.
40201:04:05.340 --> 01:04:10.190Community Hall: Can we…
403
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Community Hall: You and Rachelle Switchman?
40401:04:20.493 --> 01:04:21.443Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Seriously.
405
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Speaker 11 (Community Hall): That's wonderful.
40601:04:34.960 --> 01:04:40.080Community Hall: Thank you.
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Community Hall: Okay, so this one doesn't function.
40801:05:00.030 --> 01:05:00.720Community Hall: Sweet.
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01:05:09.740 --> 01:05:33.189Speaker 1 (Community Hall): All right, our next ceremonial item is the recognition of May 2026 as National Physical Fitness Month. During National Physical Fitness Month, we recognize the important role that physical activity and regular movement play in supporting longer, healthier, and more fulfilling lives. During National Physical Fitness and Sports Month, we recognize the important role that physical activity has
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01:05:33.190 --> 01:05:34.439Speaker 1 (Community Hall): And that's it.
41101:05:34.830 --> 01:05:46.809Speaker 1 (Community Hall): double line, I'm not going to read it twice. I invite you to participate in the Move More campaign, an initiative that encourages us all to get out and move each month
412
01:05:46.950 --> 01:06:00.650Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Together with me and your fellow residents, whether that's joining a yoga in the park session, helping clean up a creek, please keep the paddles down, there's people behind you that need to see. Thank you very much.
41301:06:01.140 --> 01:06:17.590
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Helping clean up a creek or tracking your miles on a bike ride. Please join me
and learn more at cupertino.gov forward slash mayor's initiative. And lastly, item 4 is recognition of May as
National Foster Care Month.
41401:06:17.770 --> 01:06:21.310Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Assemblymember Patrick Ahrens will receive the proclamation.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Recognizing May as National Foster Care Month. Joining us virtually tonight is
Assemblymember Patrick Ahrens, representing California's 26th District.
41601:06:33.390 --> 01:06:38.400Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Assemblymember Ahrens brings an important perspective to the State Capitol.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Having navigated housing and food insecurity in his youth, he understands
firsthand that stability is a necessity for California's 60,000 foster children.
41801:06:52.290 --> 01:07:16.129Speaker 1 (Community Hall): He has turned that personal experience into policy through his Support California Foster Kids legislative package. These bills address the challenges foster youth face when aging out of the system, specifically by strengthening housing protections, expanding food assistance, and
improving access to higher education.
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01:07:16.300 --> 01:07:34.640Speaker 1 (Community Hall): As we recognize National Foster Care Month, we appreciate having a representative in Sacramento dedicated to practical legislative reform. Please join me in welcoming
Assemblymember Patrick Ahrens to the screen to accept this proclamation.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): So, we're gonna go have a friend?
42101:07:38.370 --> 01:07:39.380Patrick Ahrens: Hi, Mayor!
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Patrick Ahrens: Hi, everyone. Thank you so much. That was very touching, Mayor Moore, and thank you to
the Cupertino City Council and the Cupertino community for your steadfast support for our foster youth. I think now more than ever.
42301:07:56.070 --> 01:08:06.810Patrick Ahrens: in the state of California and the country, we need to look to supporting, the foster youth of
California. I'm really proud to have 6 bills authored
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01:08:07.030 --> 01:08:11.449Patrick Ahrens: in that space, and so I want to just thank you all so much for everything.
42501:08:11.660 --> 01:08:20.570Patrick Ahrens: And, thank you for the support of the Foster legislation. And thank you, Mayor Moore and
the City Council for your leadership.
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01:08:20.700 --> 01:08:28.239Patrick Ahrens: I'm in Sacramento, so apologies for the loud noise, but wanted to say thank you so much, everyone, for your support for our foster youth.
42701:08:30.220 --> 01:08:42.750
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you, Patrick. Thank you for taking the time out, and we really wanted to
recognize you for all the work that you're doing for the foster children. Thank you so much. And so we're
taking a group photo here, and we're going to have a montage with you in it as well.
42801:08:43.220 --> 01:08:45.179Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, so we have to hold still.
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Community Hall: There you go.
43001:09:09.069 --> 01:09:09.779Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Alright.
43101:09:10.669 --> 01:09:16.159
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): We'll be able to give this to Patrick. All right. All right, thank you, and the mic's
all set.
43201:09:22.189 --> 01:09:24.889Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you, Patrick.
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Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Did it… did it fall?
43401:09:31.870 --> 01:09:38.640Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, all right. Thank you, Assemblymember Ahrens. We'll get you your proclamation, and… Group photo.
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Patrick Ahrens: Thank you, Mayor Moore. Thank you. It's good to see everyone back home. Take care.
43601:09:42.979 --> 01:09:44.549Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, you too. Thanks.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): All right.
43801:09:49.499 --> 01:09:55.589Speaker 1 (Community Hall): So, next we move on to postponements and orders of the debate.
43901:09:55.595 --> 01:09:58.025
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Mayor, I think your mic is not on.
440
01:09:58.290 --> 01:10:07.670Speaker 1 (Community Hall): My… my mic is not on, or do I need to be closer? Okay, is that better? Yes. Okay, very good. So we've completed the ceremonial items. Our next item is postponements.
44101:10:07.810 --> 01:10:24.460
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): And orders of the day. I move that we postpone item 21, the Council
Procedures Manual, to meet the timeline requirements of the Civil Grand Jury Report, to provide time to
incorporate any necessary edits, carefully. Do I have a second on that item?
44201:10:24.570 --> 01:10:32.660Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Second. Second. Okay, I heard Councilmember Mohan second it. Madam City Clerk, will you please call… conduct the roll call vote?
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Councilmember Fruen? Aye. Councilmember Mohan? Aye. Vice Mayor Chao?
Aye. Mayor Moore? Aye. Motion carries with Wong absent. All right, thank you.
44401:10:42.805 --> 01:10:48.805
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Next, we move on to oral communications. Madam City Clerk, how many
speaker cards do we have at this time?
44501:10:59.525 --> 01:11:04.064Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, well, seeing as how we have a full house, I would like to,
446
01:11:04.375 --> 01:11:16.875Speaker 1 (Community Hall): limit the speaker time to 90 seconds, and I understand that the more cards can come in, and we have people online. In order to assure that the city's agendized business, is addressed.
44701:11:17.195 --> 01:11:30.695Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Yes, Mayor, at this time, I believe we have about 13 requests to speak in
person, but this also encompasses about, I believe, 4 or 5 groups, as well as… I currently see two hands
raised virtually. Okay.
44801:11:30.695 --> 01:11:37.915Speaker 1 (Community Hall): So, when we've moved to 90 seconds in the past, we go for… for the groups, we were having a total of…
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Is it… 5 minutes? So…
45001:11:41.195 --> 01:11:55.455Speaker 2 (Community Hall): before reduced time, the groups, up to 5 people in the group could have 10 minutes, so it would be limited to 2 minutes per person in the group, up to no more than 5 minutes for 10 minutes… 5 people for 10 minutes.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): So in the… when we reduce it to 90 seconds, it's 5, 5 people for…
45201:12:00.990 --> 01:12:08.180Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Math gets tricky. I didn't… I don't remember what the calculation was on that. I think it was 5 for.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): 5. So do you want to… 5 for a max.
45401:12:10.415 --> 01:12:15.394Speaker 2 (Community Hall): max of five. Do you want to do one minute per person for the groups, to make it… Yes.
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you. One per… one minute per person for the groups, and then you,
one…
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): What would… are we doing the same for…
45701:12:26.440 --> 01:12:33.219Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Individual speakers. So 90 seconds individual speakers, 5 people. If you're
having a group, that's 5 minutes total.
45801:12:33.240 --> 01:12:58.070Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay. Does that seem acceptable? Also, just for, kind of, our house conduct, please, if you have paddles, you can hold them in front of yourself, but please do not block the views of anyone behind you. We are very respectful of people with different opinions here, so we do not cheer on and clap and do things like that. We want everyone to feel welcome.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Speaking here.
46001:13:00.110 --> 01:13:04.290Speaker 1 (Community Hall): This evening. So, with that, Madam City Clerk, would you,
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Please share the instructions for all communications and conduct this item.
Yes, ma'am.
46201:13:09.505 --> 01:13:28.324Speaker 2 (Community Hall): This portion of the meeting is reserved for persons wishing to address the Council on any matter within the jurisdiction of the Council, and not on the agenda for discussion. Oral communication shall be limited to 30 minutes. Additional speakers wishing to comment on non-agenda items
may be given time to speak at the end of the agenda after the City Manager's report.
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01:13:28.325 --> 01:13:51.374Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Individual speakers are limited to 3 minutes. In this case, we do have reduced time. As necessary, the mayor may further limit the time allowed to individual speakers or reschedule remaining comments to the end of the meeting on a first-come, first-heard basis, with priority given to students. In most cases, state law will prohibit the council from discussing or making any decisions with respect to a matter not listed on the agenda.
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): A council member may, however, briefly respond to statements made or questions posed by speakers.
46501:13:56.755 --> 01:14:09.925Speaker 2 (Community Hall): A council member may also ask a question for clarification, provide a reference for factual information, request staff to report back concerning a matter, or request that an item be added to
a future City Council agenda in response to public comment.
46601:14:10.355 --> 01:14:25.425Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Members of the public wishing to speak regarding oral communication shall
submit a request to speak or raise their hand virtually within the first 9 minutes of the start of public
comment, or before the public comment period is closed, whichever comes first. So at this time, we will move to,
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): in-person request to speak under oral communications. We will welcome, Steve
Soljit, followed by, Catherine Chu's group.
46801:14:36.085 --> 01:14:43.685Speaker 2 (Community Hall): And then followed by Zoe Trans Group. So, welcome, Steve. You'll have 90 seconds.
469
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Good evening, and thank you for allowing me to be here. My name is Steve
Solgett, and I represent the Cupertino Toyokawa Sister City Program.
47001:14:51.155 --> 01:14:54.765Speaker 8 (Community Hall): And I'm here today to thank the City of Cupertino for their support.
471
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Speaker 10 (Community Hall): 2026 Cherry Blossom Festival, which took place the weekend of April 25th and
26th.
47201:15:01.155 --> 01:15:09.154Speaker 10 (Community Hall): This was our 42nd Cherry Blossom Festival, and we couldn't have had this event without the distinct help and support of the City of Cupertino.
473
01:15:09.495 --> 01:15:14.115
Speaker 10 (Community Hall): This event is for the people of Cupertino, but also, as we've found out from many others.
47401:15:14.615 --> 01:15:19.084Speaker 10 (Community Hall): We did a survey this year to find out where people are from and what they're interested in.
475
01:15:19.195 --> 01:15:25.015Speaker 10 (Community Hall): And discovered about 22% of the people who attended were not from Cupertino, they were from surrounding cities.
47601:15:25.415 --> 01:15:30.025Speaker 10 (Community Hall): And we think the festival offers an opportunity for people from our
surrounding communities
47701:15:30.195 --> 01:15:34.854Speaker 10 (Community Hall): To see what Cupertino has to offer, and to experience an event meant for everyone.
47801:15:35.155 --> 01:15:51.255Speaker 10 (Community Hall): One of the interesting comments I had from somebody was, you're not going to make a lot of money with the weather, and we had to remind them, we're not here to make money. We're here to have a community event and see a variety of vendors and performances and exhibits that are
a creation of a vibrant and diverse community.
47901:15:51.505 --> 01:16:02.915Speaker 10 (Community Hall): Also, it was very, very nice to see all the members of the City Council there, as well as Japanese Consulate and representatives from local and state government on stage, because it shows that
480
01:16:03.105 --> 01:16:05.004
Speaker 10 (Community Hall): People are there, and they care.
48101:16:05.615 --> 01:16:12.365Speaker 10 (Community Hall): part of the things I enjoy is seeing what people don't see, and we thank Rochelle Sanders and her staff for our support.
482
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Speaker 10 (Community Hall): They're there at 7 in the morning until 10 o'clock at night, and to see them
out there working is very, very appreciated. And so we thank you for our event, and look forward to seeing
you April 2027. Thank you, Steve. Thank you.
48301:16:26.470 --> 01:16:33.850Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Next, we will welcome, Catherine Chu's group, followed by Zoe Tran's group, followed by…
484
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): No name on this one, CPC. I have an email, overtonma at SPC, so, yes, I don't have a name. But, welcome, Catherine Hsu, and your group. I see, four, names, so we will have 4 minutes on the clock.
48501:16:52.850 --> 01:16:55.299
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Welcome. Plus myself, right?
486
01:16:55.550 --> 01:17:00.859Speaker 2 (Community Hall): That is correct, so we will reset it to 5, thank you for the correction.
48701:17:01.320 --> 01:17:02.619Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Welcome!
488
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council Members, and staff.
489
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Speaker 11 (Community Hall): I'm Kathy Chu, a member of the leadership team of the Cupertino Pickleball Club.
490
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Speaker 11 (Community Hall): I'm here tonight to register objections regarding the planned trial to restrict
hours of play and the requests for quiet pedals at all hours at Memorial Park. But before I go on, I want to
take just a second to ask all those who are here, part of the CPC, as well as the community, please raise your hand or peddle.
49101:17:33.270 --> 01:17:35.140Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Thank you very much for being here.
492
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Speaker 11 (Community Hall): In early 2025, when our neighbors raised concerns about pickleball noise, our club proactively took steps to work with both Parks and Rec
49301:17:44.570 --> 01:17:52.840Speaker 11 (Community Hall): and the neighbors to address them. For example, we proposed, and the PNR agreed, that lights on the courts be turned off by 9pm.
494
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:57.560Speaker 11 (Community Hall): After PNR posted their request for quiet paddles.
49501:17:57.670 --> 01:18:00.450Speaker 11 (Community Hall): We actively supported it within our community.
496
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Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Compliance has been strong among morning players. Nearly all of them now use quiet paddles.
49701:18:07.060 --> 01:18:11.820Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Evening players, however, are a very mixed group and have largely ignored this request.
498
01:18:12.670 --> 01:18:18.890Speaker 11 (Community Hall): We believe that the best way to address noise concerns is to add some barriers at CMP courts.
49901:18:19.450 --> 01:18:25.110Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Like many Bay Area pickleball courts have done, and at courts across the
nation.
50001:18:25.400 --> 01:18:26.949Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Too great effect.
501
01:18:27.700 --> 01:18:29.589Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Throughout the past several months.
502
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Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Our club has worked closely with Public Works to evaluate the best sound
barrier solutions.
50301:18:35.710 --> 01:18:44.050Speaker 11 (Community Hall): We involved a nationally recognized expert in structural evaluation of existing fencing, free to Cupertino.
504
01:18:44.270 --> 01:18:47.079
Speaker 11 (Community Hall): and provide his recommendations to Public Works.
50501:18:47.660 --> 01:18:54.980Speaker 11 (Community Hall): We understand the plans are already underway to install additional support structures and noise screens.
506
01:18:55.920 --> 01:19:01.559
Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Here are two vision, or visuals, that we downloaded. Can you guys see it?
50701:19:03.640 --> 01:19:05.330Speaker 11 (Community Hall): So, upside down.
508
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Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Thank you.
50901:19:07.420 --> 01:19:14.030Speaker 11 (Community Hall): One representing the considered, solution.
51001:19:14.460 --> 01:19:20.239
Speaker 11 (Community Hall): And the other, the second one, shows the budget proposal.
511
01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:27.510Speaker 11 (Community Hall): I'm happy to report That all of the foregoing have already had a positive impact.
51201:19:27.760 --> 01:19:34.910
Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Nearby residents who previously raised noise concerns have expressed
satisfaction with the progress.
51301:19:35.810 --> 01:19:38.099Speaker 11 (Community Hall): And the complaints have subsided.
514
01:19:38.750 --> 01:19:48.240Speaker 11 (Community Hall): In fact, a text message from one of them last night indicated their complete surprise by and disagreement with the trial.
515
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Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Given all of the foregoing, the proposed trial to limit play hours and to request
quiet gear at all hours
51601:19:56.550 --> 01:20:01.149Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Feels sudden, heavy-handed, and frankly, unnecessary.
517
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Speaker 11 (Community Hall): The rules would significantly reduce access without clear justification.
51801:20:06.640 --> 01:20:11.989Speaker 11 (Community Hall): And they do not reflect the current reality among our neighbors about the noise issue.
519
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Speaker 11 (Community Hall): An overwhelming majority of our community agree.
52001:20:16.750 --> 01:20:29.990Speaker 11 (Community Hall): That the most important and effective way forward is for this city, City Council, to approve the budget for noise abatement at Memorial Park, and to launch the CIP process as soon as possible.
521
01:20:30.700 --> 01:20:40.660
Speaker 11 (Community Hall): The people who are here, and there are many more who are not, who are not able to, register their strongest objections to that proposed plan.
52201:20:40.980 --> 01:20:41.850Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Thank you.
523
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Catherine. Next, we will welcome Zoe Tran's group.
52401:21:06.600 --> 01:21:07.890Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Welcome, Zoe.
525
01:21:08.910 --> 01:21:12.070
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Good evening, Mayor, Council Members, and City staff.
52601:21:12.230 --> 01:21:15.140Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Hi, my name is Zoe. I'm a single mom, and we've just moved.
52701:21:15.143 --> 01:21:22.563Speaker 12 (Community Hall): here a few months ago. When we first got here, we were trying to find our footing and reconnect as a family. We didn't know anyone yet.
528
01:21:22.673 --> 01:21:27.072
Speaker 12 (Community Hall): We found this park and this pickleball community, and it made a real difference for us.
52901:21:27.373 --> 01:21:36.792Speaker 12 (Community Hall): What stood out to me right away was how inclusive it felt. You see kids, parents, older adults all playing together, and people genuinely welcome you in.
530
01:21:36.913 --> 01:21:43.702Speaker 12 (Community Hall): That's not something you find everywhere anymore. And for my kids, Lucas and Liam, this has been really meaningful.
53101:21:43.983 --> 01:21:50.812Speaker 12 (Community Hall): We've moved about 5 times in the last 3 years, so finding a place where we
feel like we belong has not been easy.
53201:21:50.933 --> 01:22:05.293Speaker 12 (Community Hall): This is the first place where I've seen Lucas settle in, build confidence, connect with others, and make friends. And in a world that can feel overwhelming for kids, this has become a place where he feels safe and where we can spend that time together.
533
01:22:05.613 --> 01:22:15.663
Speaker 12 (Community Hall): So when I hear about these proposed limitations, it genuinely concerns me,
not just as a fan of pickleball, but as a parent watching my child finally feel like he belongs.
53401:22:16.493 --> 01:22:29.103Speaker 12 (Community Hall): The truth is, these proposed changes don't just affect hours, they affect access. And for families and kids with busy schedules, even small limitations can be the difference between belonging and being left out.
535
01:22:29.103 --> 01:22:40.882
Speaker 12 (Community Hall): And for people who are new, who are still trying to find their place the way we were, the door may not open for them at all. I understand that the city is trying to balance real competing needs, and I truly respect that.
53601:22:40.923 --> 01:22:51.393
Speaker 12 (Community Hall): The neighbors' concerns matter, and from what I've seen, this community
here has already been willing to adapt through quiet paddles, adjusted behavior, and genuine good faith.
53701:22:51.493 --> 01:23:02.152Speaker 12 (Community Hall): And I hope that good faith goes both ways. All I'm asking for today is that
before anything is finalized, the city brings this community to the table to weigh all the options together.
538
01:23:02.273 --> 01:23:08.463
Speaker 12 (Community Hall): What's been built here is really special. Please work with us to protect it. I'd love for you to hear from Lucas himself.
53901:23:08.793 --> 01:23:11.243Speaker 12 (Community Hall): Hi, I'm Lucas. Hi, I'm Lucas.
540
01:23:11.383 --> 01:23:14.492
Speaker 12 (Community Hall): I like playing pickleball here, it makes me happy.
54101:23:14.555 --> 01:23:15.245Speaker 13 (Community Hall): happy.
542
01:23:15.375 --> 01:23:19.555
Speaker 13 (Community Hall): I made friends, and I feel more confident when I play. Thank you.
54301:23:22.195 --> 01:23:25.494Speaker 13 (Community Hall): Good job, good job.
544
01:23:26.790 --> 01:23:30.839
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Zoe. Next, we will welcome the CPC group.
54501:23:32.610 --> 01:23:35.460Speaker 2 (Community Hall): There's no other name on this card.
54601:23:35.830 --> 01:23:43.079
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Mary Ann Overton, I guess? Marianne, do you have a group representing you?
I'm representing the group.
54701:23:43.270 --> 01:23:45.719Speaker 2 (Community Hall): How many people are in your group this evening?
54801:23:47.760 --> 01:23:50.459
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Okay, I'm a.
54901:23:50.465 --> 01:23:52.895Speaker 5 (Community Hall): president of Cupertino, I pay a lot of taxes.
55001:23:52.900 --> 01:23:55.950Speaker 9 (Community Hall): So that I can enjoy the park.
551
01:23:56.580 --> 01:24:01.920
Speaker 5 (Community Hall): And playing pickleball is enjoyable, and…
55201:24:01.920 --> 01:24:04.149Speaker 9 (Community Hall): good for my health. I would have liked to live to a.
553
01:24:04.155 --> 01:24:11.424Speaker 2 (Community Hall): So, Marianne, sorry to interrupt you. Are you representing a group or just yourself? I'm just trying to allocate the correct time for your speaking.
55401:24:11.555 --> 01:24:13.865Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Just herself? Just herself. Okay, thank you.
555
01:24:14.475 --> 01:24:15.365Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Okay.
55601:24:15.475 --> 01:24:21.034Speaker 2 (Community Hall): So, pickleball is not only good for the old, but it's good for the young, too.
557
01:24:21.540 --> 01:24:26.699
Speaker 14 (Community Hall): And I would… I'm representing the 80 and older seniors.
55801:24:27.560 --> 01:24:29.500Speaker 14 (Community Hall): So, it helps improve health.
559
01:24:30.160 --> 01:24:33.400
Speaker 14 (Community Hall): And just taking away one day
56001:24:33.720 --> 01:24:43.649Speaker 14 (Community Hall): will affect the rest of the week, because then more and more pickleball players will be coming over on those other days, and then the wait is
561
01:24:43.950 --> 01:24:45.250
Speaker 14 (Community Hall): twice as long.
56201:24:45.480 --> 01:24:52.349Speaker 14 (Community Hall): But… So that's my… my recommendation, is not to take away any days.
563
01:24:52.460 --> 01:24:57.420
Speaker 14 (Community Hall): And also, just stick with the paddles that we have.
56401:24:57.690 --> 01:25:04.259Speaker 14 (Community Hall): So we don't have to invest in new paddles for… for all day, just the… the quiet hours time.
56501:25:04.620 --> 01:25:05.660Speaker 14 (Community Hall): Thank you.
566
01:25:06.770 --> 01:25:07.840
Speaker 14 (Community Hall): Thank you.
56701:25:08.820 --> 01:25:11.049Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you. Please.
568
01:25:12.400 --> 01:25:17.849
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Next, we will, welcome Chris Farm? Farm?
56901:25:18.970 --> 01:25:23.910Speaker 2 (Community Hall): I believe you stated you're representing a group. Is there a group with you this evening?
570
01:25:24.170 --> 01:25:24.879
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Just clarify.
57101:25:24.880 --> 01:25:27.139Speaker 4 (Community Hall): Cupertino pickleball players.
57201:25:27.145 --> 01:25:29.185
Speaker 11 (Community Hall): Before speakers for people to speak.
573
01:25:29.415 --> 01:25:36.225Speaker 2 (Community Hall): So this would be any speakers that have not already spoken or not planning to speak under a different group or individually.
57401:25:39.745 --> 01:25:40.595
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Okay.
575
01:25:41.585 --> 01:25:47.515Speaker 2 (Community Hall): So these… you have 4 people in your group who have not spoken and do not plan to speak, is that correct?
57601:25:47.895 --> 01:25:48.715
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Okay.
577
01:25:49.215 --> 01:25:56.414Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Hello. So you will have, 4 minutes to speak. Welcome Chris's group.
578
01:25:56.420 --> 01:26:00.559
Speaker 4 (Community Hall): City Council. This is my first time speaking at one of these, so…
57901:26:00.690 --> 01:26:03.619Speaker 4 (Community Hall): I'll keep it brief. My name is Chris Pham.
580
01:26:03.850 --> 01:26:09.170Speaker 4 (Community Hall): I play at Cupertino Memorial Park. I've started playing there maybe 6 months ago, and…
58101:26:09.680 --> 01:26:17.049Speaker 15 (Community Hall): Like the rest of these fine folks, it is a pleasure to play with everyone. The
community's extremely welcoming.
58201:26:17.490 --> 01:26:20.979Speaker 15 (Community Hall): I think throughout my life, my short life.
58301:26:21.250 --> 01:26:31.419Speaker 15 (Community Hall): In the various sports I've played, I've never played a sport that has been
more welcoming, more accessible to people of all, backgrounds, of all ages.
58401:26:31.620 --> 01:26:42.059Speaker 15 (Community Hall): I believe that, you know, this community has done its best to proactively work with the, you know, the neighborhood, those who are impacted by the
58501:26:42.320 --> 01:26:45.690
Speaker 15 (Community Hall): You know, admittedly loud noises that pickleball does bring.
58601:26:45.920 --> 01:26:52.500Speaker 15 (Community Hall): And so I do feel, that this proposal to limit the hours
58701:26:52.710 --> 01:26:58.250Speaker 15 (Community Hall): To require, you know, additional equipment to play a sport that everyone
loves.
58801:26:58.350 --> 01:27:09.449Speaker 15 (Community Hall): is a bit excessive, especially when the pickleball community is doing its best to, you know, work with the community and find a solution that works for everyone. Thank you.
58901:27:12.150 --> 01:27:18.360
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Madam City Clerk, will you get the speaker cards from the four other members
of that particular group, please?
59001:27:20.690 --> 01:27:26.720Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Yes, Mayor, so we would just like to collect, your names for that group, if
you're…
591
01:27:40.550 --> 01:27:47.689
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you. So, thank you, Mayor. Next we will welcome Robert George.
59201:27:47.970 --> 01:27:58.030Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Followed by Tom Cunningham, and, he has, 4 names listed with his group, so a total of 5 people, and then followed by Kevin Yang.
593
01:27:58.270 --> 01:28:00.159
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): So we will welcome Robert.
59401:28:01.030 --> 01:28:02.010Speaker 2 (Community Hall): George.
595
01:28:03.090 --> 01:28:13.590
Speaker 10 (Community Hall): Good evening. My name is Robert George. I'm a Cupertino resident,
homeowner, and active voter, and have been so for 25 years. I live next to the Blackberry Farm Golf Course.
59601:28:13.590 --> 01:28:23.769Speaker 16 (Community Hall): Creek Trail, Blue Pheasant, Blackberry Farm Picnic Area, and I worked with the city many years ago to create an equitable plan for these locations, since they're quite literally behind my
house.
597
01:28:24.160 --> 01:28:39.639Speaker 16 (Community Hall): Every morning I hear noise coming from these areas. I appreciate the value of having this, available to residents and non-residents, and accept what such attraction… that such attractions come with noise and inconvenience to those who live nearby.
598
01:28:40.050 --> 01:28:50.630
Speaker 16 (Community Hall): I work from home and accept that living near these attractions often means
early lawn mowing, leaf blowing, loud trail conversations, laughter, music, people ignoring rules, and staying
on the trails.
59901:28:50.770 --> 01:29:01.420Speaker 16 (Community Hall): People want to exercise, have fun, and enjoy Cupertino… what Cupertino offers, and I'm willing to accept this, even though it may come with noise and inconvenience to me.
600
01:29:02.250 --> 01:29:17.580
Speaker 16 (Community Hall): I'm also an early morning pickleball player. I need to get to Memorial Park at sunrise to enjoy exercise, great community of people, wonderfully maintained park and courts, and avoid, heat-related health issues. I don't have a flexible schedule, so I'm limited to the hours.
60101:29:17.740 --> 01:29:25.790Speaker 16 (Community Hall): I'd hate to take my morning play and, shopping to Palo Alto's Mitchell Park.
They're more accommodating. Here's what I ask of you.
60201:29:25.900 --> 01:29:34.689Speaker 16 (Community Hall): We elected you to solve problems. Here's one that, for you all to keep working on, so please work with the Park and Rec Department to come up with a better plan.
603
01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:37.310
Community Hall: Okay.
60401:29:40.610 --> 01:29:48.279Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Robert. Next we will move on to, Tom… Tom Cunning… Cunningham's group,
605
01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:51.819
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): And I have, the names listed as well.
60601:29:52.100 --> 01:29:55.420Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Eureko… one Shiang Tsai.
607
01:29:55.540 --> 01:30:00.520
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): bob McEllney, and, Shelly McEllney.
60801:30:01.070 --> 01:30:11.270Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Oh, I didn't butcher those too bad. So, welcome. So, we have 5 people in your group, so you will have 5 minutes this evening. Welcome. Hi there. All I ask is that you look at me when I'm talking, it's simple.
609
01:30:11.275 --> 01:30:15.594
Speaker 14 (Community Hall): My name is Tom Cunningham, I'm a resident of Cupertino.
61001:30:15.805 --> 01:30:18.995Speaker 14 (Community Hall): And I've been very involved in the pickleball group for the.
611
01:30:18.995 --> 01:30:20.554
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): Last year and a half?
61201:30:20.775 --> 01:30:28.874Speaker 17 (Community Hall): First and foremost, I think I want to thank you for being willing to include the sound barrier.
613
01:30:29.155 --> 01:30:40.335
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): wall in the budget for consideration. I think that's an important factor. You're
talking about an organization that is involving a huge chunk of your community.
61401:30:40.335 --> 01:30:55.155
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): And as somebody who's been a former HOA president, has worked with
numerous city councils, I really appreciate the time that you guys spend, and it's a thankless job, and I really want to thank you very, very much for what you're doing. And I think that…
615
01:30:55.155 --> 01:30:59.395
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): We've got some… Some real basic things that we want to communicate.
61601:30:59.615 --> 01:31:05.895Speaker 17 (Community Hall): First and foremost, we're talking about potentially impacting this organization in July.
617
01:31:06.925 --> 01:31:26.835
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): Just when summer kicks in, just when the daylight savings allows you to play
longer, and just when people who work all day long and may not even be able to get out to the courts until
after work can't even arrive until 6 p.m. I, myself, take care of an 84-year-old man who had a stroke about 15 years ago.
61801:31:27.535 --> 01:31:33.175Speaker 17 (Community Hall): And… I'm preparing dinner for him, making sure that he's taken care of before I can even get away.
619
01:31:33.365 --> 01:31:44.164Speaker 17 (Community Hall): So, I really appreciate the fact that I can go and play, and I've never… you know, I've played tennis in Northern California, Southern California, all over the place. I have never…
62001:31:44.355 --> 01:31:53.874Speaker 17 (Community Hall): Ever interacted with a more friendly, Engaging group in my life.
621
01:31:54.015 --> 01:31:58.225Speaker 17 (Community Hall): I have seen… Little children with their parents.
62201:31:58.825 --> 01:32:03.115Speaker 17 (Community Hall): playing on a… on a regular basis. Retirees.
623
01:32:03.355 --> 01:32:06.114
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): People of every…
62401:32:06.355 --> 01:32:16.234Speaker 17 (Community Hall): race, religion, and creed. I swear, it's the most inclusive group I've ever seen. In fact, out of those 6 tennis courts, we're only taking up 2 of them.
625
01:32:16.575 --> 01:32:21.065
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): And out of those two, we're talking about involving 80 people.
62601:32:21.535 --> 01:32:22.965
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): On a regular basis.
627
01:32:23.615 --> 01:32:28.915
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): 32 that are playing, and 42 that are waiting to play.
62801:32:31.105 --> 01:32:34.185Speaker 17 (Community Hall): There are friendships and bonds that are taking place
629
01:32:34.645 --> 01:32:38.494
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): Every single day, and it's because of your
63001:32:38.725 --> 01:32:45.674Speaker 17 (Community Hall): ability to facilitate this. I know as a community leader, you're always trying to create
631
01:32:47.445 --> 01:32:55.165
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): activities that have engagement and inclusion, right? That makes the most
sense. What kind of impact can we create on our, you know, for our residents?
63201:32:55.465 --> 01:32:57.824Speaker 17 (Community Hall): Well, you have the perfect solution here.
633
01:32:58.085 --> 01:33:03.305
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): Because where else are you going to find that kind of… of impact?
63401:33:03.955 --> 01:33:14.695Speaker 17 (Community Hall): you know, you talked about the Cherry Blossom Festival. You know, you wouldn't assess that based upon, oh gosh, look at how much traffic it created. You would talk about it based upon involvement of the community.
635
01:33:15.155 --> 01:33:17.604
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): And that's what we're asking you to consider here.
63601:33:19.575 --> 01:33:20.465Speaker 17 (Community Hall): I mean…
637
01:33:20.865 --> 01:33:37.445
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): you know, you could be comparing that in terms of sound and its impact. It'd
be like saying, I moved to a golf course, but the new pink golf clubs, you know, make too much noise, so can you just use a foam golf ball and everybody will be happy? You know, it's just not really that easy.
63801:33:39.105 --> 01:33:44.874Speaker 17 (Community Hall): I just want to also emphasize, from a social-economic impact, you have a…
639
01:33:45.795 --> 01:33:52.444
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): A park that allows people that can engage in an activity that doesn't cost them a fortune.
640
01:33:52.985 --> 01:33:57.325
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): It's tough. These, you know, a lot of these people, they can't afford to join a
private club.
64101:33:57.815 --> 01:34:03.305Speaker 17 (Community Hall): They can't afford even to join, you know, Cupertino's, you know, workout group.
642
01:34:04.095 --> 01:34:12.405
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): This allows them to come on a regular basis and interact with people and
form really strong friendships. And like I shared.
64301:34:13.245 --> 01:34:16.425Speaker 17 (Community Hall): From 6 to 80.
644
01:34:16.745 --> 01:34:19.274
Speaker 17 (Community Hall): I've never seen anything like it before.
64501:34:19.435 --> 01:34:23.865Speaker 17 (Community Hall): And I really invite you to please come down there and see what…
646
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Speaker 17 (Community Hall): what people are participating in. But more importantly, I really want to
emphasize that if you can make this sound barrier wall work.
64701:34:32.175 --> 01:34:33.245Speaker 17 (Community Hall): Please do.
648
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Speaker 17 (Community Hall): Because I think it would be a wonderful solution, and as you've already heard,
we're more than willing to cooperate with the community to try and make this work.
64901:34:44.165 --> 01:34:47.165Speaker 17 (Community Hall): So thank you again for everything that you do, really appreciate it.
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Tom, and Tom's group.
65101:34:53.110 --> 01:34:56.419Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Next, we will welcome, Kevin Yang.
652
01:34:56.550 --> 01:34:59.689Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Followed by Adam Oren's group.
653
01:34:59.850 --> 01:35:03.379
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Followed by Arif S. Welcome, Kevin.
65401:35:05.100 --> 01:35:11.180Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Hi, my name is Kevin Yang. I'm a long-time resident of Cupertino. I have been.
65501:35:11.180 --> 01:35:16.880
Speaker 18 (Community Hall): I've been living in Cupertino for more than 21 years with my 3 kids and my
wife.
65601:35:16.910 --> 01:35:33.580Speaker 18 (Community Hall): All my three kids went to… through the public school, and I have been actively involved in the community by volunteering as the Boy Scout Cup Master for 5 years in regular elementary school. So,
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Speaker 18 (Community Hall): I taught many people to teach pickleball, and I found the best place to do this
is in Memorial Park. I've been to many people, of course, in the Bay Area.
65801:35:47.610 --> 01:35:56.890Speaker 18 (Community Hall): And I found the Memorial Park Pickleball Course to be the most friendly and most welcoming place for new beginners. So.
659
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Speaker 18 (Community Hall): we have something really special there, and I think the council should consider it, you know, to keep it regular hours. I have never been to any pickleball, court with our
66001:36:12.120 --> 01:36:23.339Speaker 18 (Community Hall): restriction, specifically in the trial program, it's totally unfair, you know, for our resident to get that kind of, treatment.
661
01:36:23.690 --> 01:36:40.410Speaker 18 (Community Hall): Another thing I wanted to mention is, I'm a very busy, working professional. I do not have a flexible schedule, so I… the only time I can work out is the early morning and the evening hours. Thank you.
66201:36:41.350 --> 01:36:46.030
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Kevin. Next, we welcome Adam Warren and, your group.
66301:36:46.190 --> 01:36:49.390Speaker 2 (Community Hall): with Danielle, Connie, Boone, and Danny.
664
01:36:49.830 --> 01:36:55.320Speaker 2 (Community Hall): 1, 2… So, we will have 5 minutes on the clock for you and your group this evening.
665
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Hello. Thank you.
66601:36:59.620 --> 01:37:04.299Speaker 2 (Community Hall): My name is Adam Warren. I grew up in Cupertino, and I attend Homestead High School.
667
01:37:04.530 --> 01:37:05.060
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): I was told.
66801:37:05.060 --> 01:37:18.159Speaker 19 (Community Hall): taught from a young age that this was a community of acceptance. Nothing better exemplifies this than our community. It does not ask who you are or where you're from. It's a community as diverse as the brands of paddles in this room. Which is a lot.
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Speaker 19 (Community Hall): We have never asked for special treatment, but now we are being asked to restrict access to this community.
67001:37:24.440 --> 01:37:32.339Speaker 19 (Community Hall): I learned, played, and even represented our city at the high school national championships. And this lack of support has me astonished.
671
01:37:32.690 --> 01:37:37.959Speaker 19 (Community Hall): My… these people are my friends, and they are my family, and we have built a community here.
67201:37:40.220 --> 01:37:46.939Speaker 19 (Community Hall): We are here together because we love this community, and I urge you to
consider the values that make this city a great one.
67301:37:47.580 --> 01:37:48.760Speaker 19 (Community Hall): One of which…
67401:37:49.040 --> 01:37:56.270Speaker 19 (Community Hall): These values are acceptance and community. And by stopping this trial, we
allow these values to thrive.
67501:37:56.520 --> 01:37:58.139Speaker 19 (Community Hall): I'd like to tell you a story.
676
01:37:58.280 --> 01:38:17.240Speaker 19 (Community Hall): I came into this community truly unsure of myself, and frankly afraid of the community I'd find. But here I was welcomed with open arms. I was taught by these people, they offered me community, they offered food to those who were hungry, and equipment to those who needed it. And they have never turned someone away, so please do not do that to them.
677
01:38:17.350 --> 01:38:25.859Speaker 19 (Community Hall): Please protect this space that we have, and that we have made a home, by rejecting this trial and following through on the plan for the sound barrier. Thank you.
67801:38:29.890 --> 01:38:34.240Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Adam and the group. Next, we will welcome Arif S.
679
01:38:34.510 --> 01:38:38.099Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Followed by Rajiv… Pethi? Pethik?
68001:38:39.840 --> 01:38:41.040Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Welcome, Arif!
681
01:38:43.770 --> 01:38:50.049
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Hello. Good evening, Mayor and Council Members. My name is Araf. I'm a resident of Cupertivia.
68201:38:50.050 --> 01:38:57.360Speaker 20 (Community Hall): And one of the reasons to move to Cupertino was to use the park facilities, specifically the pickleball.
683
01:38:58.030 --> 01:39:06.010Speaker 20 (Community Hall): I'm here to voice concerns on the plans to put restrictions on the pickleball timings, as well as how it's played.
68401:39:06.420 --> 01:39:11.789Speaker 20 (Community Hall): My kids and I play in the morning as well as in the evening, depending on the
day of the week.
68501:39:11.970 --> 01:39:15.320Speaker 20 (Community Hall): By putting these restrictions, you're basically telling me not to play.
68601:39:15.720 --> 01:39:23.309Speaker 20 (Community Hall): And… and most… and basically, you're also telling certain sections, most
people, not to play, because the timings would not work.
68701:39:24.120 --> 01:39:35.400Speaker 20 (Community Hall): And you're also telling them to forego all the benefits that comes with the pickleball, such as, you know, fun time, family, friends, health, etc.
68801:39:35.960 --> 01:39:39.770Speaker 20 (Community Hall): The real solution, as others have said, is to put a sound ball.
689
01:39:40.170 --> 01:39:41.840
Speaker 20 (Community Hall): Or some sort of a barrier.
69001:39:42.120 --> 01:39:46.959Speaker 20 (Community Hall): the city, and the city really needs to figure out a way to fund the project. Thank you for your time.
691
01:39:48.300 --> 01:39:49.270
Speaker 20 (Community Hall): Thank you.
69201:39:50.350 --> 01:39:52.809Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you. Next, we will welcome Rajiv.
693
01:39:52.970 --> 01:39:57.809
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Followed by Varun, followed by Rhoda Frye. Welcome, Rajiv.
69401:40:00.460 --> 01:40:04.049Speaker 2 (Community Hall): It's Rajiv… In the audience this evening.
69501:40:04.810 --> 01:40:06.020
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): No, Rajiv?
696
01:40:06.720 --> 01:40:10.410Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Is, all the way to the back, he actually said he would be…
69701:40:10.740 --> 01:40:11.690Community Hall: Oh, fantastic.
698
01:40:11.690 --> 01:40:17.649
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Okay, if he's not here, we're going to move on, so we will move to Varnam Singh?
69901:40:27.950 --> 01:40:36.229Speaker 2 (Community Hall): And Barnum, you have two people in your group? Are you speaking as a group
this evening? No, yes. Okay, thank you. So you'll have two minutes this evening. Welcome.
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01:40:36.890 --> 01:40:39.470Speaker 15 (Community Hall): Hello, Council, and thank you for allowing us to be here.
701
01:40:39.475 --> 01:40:40.295
Speaker 4 (Community Hall): We're environmental.
70201:40:40.295 --> 01:40:45.855Speaker 15 (Community Hall): science students from Monta Vista High School, and we are here to voice our
concerns about the management of city land and the lack of green.
70301:40:45.860 --> 01:40:46.959Speaker 21 (Community Hall): space in our community.
70401:40:47.120 --> 01:40:59.250Speaker 21 (Community Hall): We are worried about the lack of invasive… of awareness of invasive versus
native plants in our community, and how this is leading to a less stable environment. The main issue is
invasive species.
70501:40:59.330 --> 01:41:04.089Speaker 21 (Community Hall): For example, several years ago, Lake Cunningham had many invasive species.
70601:41:04.160 --> 01:41:21.540
Speaker 21 (Community Hall): Such as poison hemlock and Cape ivy, which are killing nearby native species.
Instead of spending time and money micromanaging these invasive plants, it'd be better to replace them
with native species so that newly added plants can help the ecosystem, and fertilizer does not need to be
wasted on maintaining invasive species.
70701:41:21.880 --> 01:41:30.550Speaker 21 (Community Hall): Native plants… native plant species can increase biodiversity and can even help us sustain the local environment by providing food and pollination to other local species.
708
01:41:30.740 --> 01:41:38.190
Speaker 21 (Community Hall): Furthermore, we can also use areas with little to no plants to increase biodiversity by planting native plants in those areas. Specific data.
70901:41:38.195 --> 01:41:43.194Speaker 8 (Community Hall): species will be more ideal than others for addressing the issues of dead spaces
and fragile ecosystems.
710
01:41:43.195 --> 01:41:46.454Speaker 15 (Community Hall): systems. For example, frog fruit is a grass variety.
71101:41:46.455 --> 01:42:01.195Speaker 22 (Community Hall): that requires minimal water and can be used widespread as a widespread
ground cover in parks and lawns. Additionally, Sunshine Mimosa Ground Cover is a nitrogen fixation plant
and can attract more insects like butterflies and bees nearby.
71201:42:01.355 --> 01:42:12.305Speaker 22 (Community Hall): We believe that planting more native species and spreading awareness about
dead zones can lead to an increase in tourism, as it makes areas in Cupertino more attractive, while also
aiding the environment around it.
71301:42:12.595 --> 01:42:24.605Speaker 22 (Community Hall): While plants, like, may seem negligible in the short run, they can increase the
ground's ability to absorb water and decrease the amount of water pollution in the city, while also
maintaining the quality of soil.
71401:42:24.605 --> 01:42:37.454Speaker 22 (Community Hall): So, even if, like, if it doesn't seem like what we're doing is important, like, in the long term, it can really help just the overall biodiversity of everything in Cupertino. So, yeah, that's what it is.
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you. Next, we will welcome Rhoda Frye, and then…
71601:42:44.630 --> 01:42:49.549Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Mayor, we will move into the request to speak virtually. So, welcome, Rhoda. Hi, good evening.
717
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Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Disappointed.
71801:42:50.350 --> 01:42:52.249Speaker 9 (Community Hall): I'm disappointed that they're… you're not hearing.
719
01:42:52.255 --> 01:42:56.015
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): neighbors of the pickled wall courts. I do not live nearby, but I've heard them.
72001:42:56.015 --> 01:42:58.374Speaker 9 (Community Hall): The noise is really obnoxious.
72101:42:58.380 --> 01:43:01.829
Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Okay, you can say boo. Now…
72201:43:02.410 --> 01:43:07.740Speaker 3 (Community Hall): De Anza College has offered space. I think we should work with De Anza College to get more space for pickup.
72301:43:07.745 --> 01:43:14.574
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): So I hope, I hope you look at that, because the people who live there,
Deserve to have.
72401:43:14.785 --> 01:43:25.304Speaker 23 (Community Hall): their peace. And when they moved there, pickleball wasn't there, that level of
noise wasn't there. Anyway, the main, I came here for actually, another reason.
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01:43:25.505 --> 01:43:31.845
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): flock cameras. Now, I understand that we were… Santa Clara County said we can't do them anymore.
72601:43:32.045 --> 01:43:33.865Speaker 23 (Community Hall): And we should rip them out.
727
01:43:34.015 --> 01:43:39.335
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): And… turns out that Sunnyvale has figured out how to not rip them out.
72801:43:39.885 --> 01:43:41.635Speaker 23 (Community Hall): And I think we should do that, too.
729
01:43:41.955 --> 01:43:46.945
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): And after we've re… Engage them, we should use them.
73001:43:47.165 --> 01:43:53.984Speaker 23 (Community Hall): Very disappointing, to hear about the lack of sheriff response when we know
731
01:43:54.215 --> 01:44:00.945
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): who… license plates on people who've… who've committed crimes. I went to
a,
73201:44:00.995 --> 01:44:19.035Speaker 23 (Community Hall): block party, a block meeting, and hearing from residents that they've shown their personal cameras, a whole bunch of neighborhood cameras, the sheriffs, and they're not moving forward on investigating thefts here. So, we need… this is a two-part solution, and… and I hope you can
move forward on it. Thank you.
733
01:44:21.740 --> 01:44:31.559Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Rhoda. And before we move to the request to speak virtually, Mayor, Councilmember Wong has joined. So Councilmember Wong,
73401:44:31.840 --> 01:44:37.050
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): I have my questions to ask. Thank you for joining this evening.
735
01:44:37.300 --> 01:44:44.910Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Councilmember Wong, are… can you confirm that you are in the lobby this evening of the Renaissance Cincinnati Downtown Hotel in Cincinnati, Ohio?
73601:44:45.760 --> 01:44:46.559
R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: Yes, I am.
737
01:44:47.350 --> 01:44:51.590Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, and Councilmember Wong, can you confirm that you posted the agenda at your location?
738
01:44:51.990 --> 01:44:54.199
R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: Yes, I have, and a picture has been sent to you.
73901:44:54.490 --> 01:45:03.459Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you. And Councilmember Wonger, are there any individuals over the age of 18 with you, and has anyone indicated to you that they intend to make public comment or address the Council this evening?
740
01:45:03.830 --> 01:45:04.890
R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: None at this moment.
74101:45:05.580 --> 01:45:11.849Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you. I'll rely on you to notify me if any members of the public wishes to speak from your location. Thank you.
742
01:45:11.850 --> 01:45:12.809
R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: I will, thank you.
74301:45:13.220 --> 01:45:18.960Speaker 2 (Community Hall): And, Mayor, Council, at this time, we will move to request to speak virtually under oral communications, and we have
744
01:45:19.730 --> 01:45:32.799
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): 5 requests, five hands raised virtually. We will welcome, in the following order, Tracy Cosarone, Peggy Griffin, Colin User 1, San Rao, followed by Jennifer Griffin. So, welcome, Tracy.
74501:45:35.440 --> 01:45:57.200Tracy Kosolcharoen: Good evening, City Council. My name is Tracy Kaselchron, I serve as Chair of the Cupertino Planning Commission, and tonight, at the direction of the Commission on April 14th, 2026, I
wanted to share the results of our Community Noticing Subcommittee report. The goal of the Community
Noticing Subcommittee was to address continued feedback that many residents and businesses were
unaware of major projects and zoning changes, or found out too late.
74601:45:57.200 --> 01:46:20.349Tracy Kosolcharoen: So, I wanted to just briefly recap some of Planning Commission's recommendations for community noticing improvements. I know that I only have 90 seconds, so this is not comprehensive, and the full list is via email, and I'm happy to discuss later if anyone has questions. So first, the Commission
expressed unanimous approval for increasing the noticing radius for larger project public hearings.
747
01:46:20.350 --> 01:46:39.210Tracy Kosolcharoen: Zoning changes such as the 7th cycle housing element, very high fire hazard zone area projects, expanding that noticing to 1 quarter mile, as well as proposals for changes to any major streets.
And as shown in the subcommittee report, several neighboring cities are officially noticing for large projects
at 500 to 750 feet.
74801:46:39.330 --> 01:47:03.809Tracy Kosolcharoen: And, staff already also does this unofficially, so, the cost impact here would be relatively
minor. It would primarily just be on the changes to major streets, as well as zoning changes. I'm running out
of time. The full report is available via email. Thank you very much to staff for helping to figure out a new
process for the subcommittee to make its report out to Council.
74901:47:03.810 --> 01:47:07.019Tracy Kosolcharoen: And thank you very much to Council for your attention to this issue.
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01:47:08.690 --> 01:47:11.940
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Tracy. Next, we will welcome Peggy Griffin.
75101:47:16.660 --> 01:47:20.480Peggy Griffin: Good evening, CASEL and staff.
75201:47:20.600 --> 01:47:35.600
Peggy Griffin: I want to express my frustration with, The politicizing of our government Facilities, in, in, in…
75301:47:36.030 --> 01:47:41.270Peggy Griffin: Specifically the grand jury. I mean…
75401:47:42.090 --> 01:47:50.090Peggy Griffin: It's election time, and all of a sudden, there's an election report, and… it attacks…
755
01:47:50.480 --> 01:48:01.329Peggy Griffin: Councilmember Wei, Wang, and… It has happened over and over and over again, which…
75601:48:01.910 --> 01:48:11.229Peggy Griffin: Changes our perspective on Our procedures, and our committees, and the jury.
757
01:48:11.750 --> 01:48:20.379
Peggy Griffin: I don't respect the grand jury anymore because of the politicizing of their reports.
75801:48:20.970 --> 01:48:30.590Peggy Griffin: I also want to, point out that, It's time to stop.
759
01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:37.180
Peggy Griffin: Calm it down… I'm talking to both sides. Stop it.
76001:48:38.150 --> 01:48:45.390Peggy Griffin: We are trying to elect officials. We want the best candidate to win.
76101:48:45.890 --> 01:48:50.699Peggy Griffin: Stop the BS. Stop the attacks.
762
01:48:51.820 --> 01:48:53.459
Peggy Griffin: I'm tired of it.
76301:48:53.460 --> 01:48:54.910Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Peggy, that is your time?
764
01:48:55.390 --> 01:48:59.129
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you. Next, we will welcome Colin User 1.
76501:49:05.630 --> 01:49:08.000Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Colin User 1, are you there?
76601:49:09.200 --> 01:49:10.660
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Yes, we can hear you, welcome.
767
01:49:10.660 --> 01:49:12.200Call-In User_1: Good evening, Councilmembers.
76801:49:12.680 --> 01:49:17.110Call-In User_1: And then, actually, I just heard something about pickleball.
769
01:49:17.110 --> 01:49:41.280
Call-In User_1: And, my, my previous study, brief study that I feel like the city, I think, was planning a different location. Maybe that location can have less restriction, I don't know. And also, if it's noise, I was thinking that way to have, like, a sound, sound board, sound wall, like a highway, I mean, just some sorts. That's just a quick thought. I think I need to do a little more study on it. I'm here, actually, today because,
770
01:49:41.280 --> 01:49:56.630
Call-In User_1: I have not… we have not received response to our request to a meeting, and since the
second time, 2021, and the property, and were taken without notice even belongings, and… and we're still
facing the…
77101:49:56.790 --> 01:50:14.410Call-In User_1: ongoing sanctions and retaliation, like political refugees, and no clear explanation for that long time, and the people have similar things to us in even legal fields. They never had that long time. So we have made multiple efforts to resolve the issue respectfully, directly.
772
01:50:14.430 --> 01:50:22.649Call-In User_1: And, but those requests have not answered, and we feel like, we're prejudiced, because we're the weak, because we're the weak,
773
01:50:22.740 --> 01:50:27.639Call-In User_1: residents of the city. And, so we really want
774
01:50:27.750 --> 01:50:43.840
Call-In User_1: this is resolved, and this lack of communication is deeply concerning. We are asking for three
simple things. Clear explanation why our learnings also taken, and another thing, review of current sanction
placed on us.
77501:50:43.970 --> 01:50:45.040Call-In User_1: And also.
776
01:50:45.040 --> 01:50:51.969
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Colin. User 1, that is your time. Next, we will welcome San Rao,
followed by Jennifer Griffin. Welcome, San.
77701:50:54.980 --> 01:51:07.050San Rao: Good evening, Mayor Moore, Council Members, Planning Commissioner here, speaking on behalf of myself only as a resident, also the 2025 Chair of the Planning Commission. I'd like to comment on this grand jury report that was just released.
778
01:51:07.190 --> 01:51:12.889San Rao: What kind of city would we be if we limited who could participate in our council and commissions?
77901:51:13.420 --> 01:51:19.240San Rao: If you limited it to people that cannot travel and will need to be there in person all the time.
780
01:51:19.300 --> 01:51:29.499
San Rao: We are saying people with families that are remote can never serve on a commission or council. We are saying that people who need to travel for work can never serve.
78101:51:29.530 --> 01:51:42.889San Rao: People who have business and need to travel for business reasons can never serve. People who have to care for their elder parents can never serve. Immigrant communities with families abroad can never
serve. What kind of community would we be?
78201:51:43.040 --> 01:51:47.830San Rao: We are seeing that seniors with grandkids that live elsewhere can never serve.
78301:51:48.130 --> 01:51:58.359San Rao: Councilmember Wong is not remote for convenience. He is remote to earn a livelihood for his
family. And we're saying you can either choose to do that or serve.
78401:51:58.580 --> 01:52:13.909San Rao: Councilmember Wong represents the residents of Cupertino far more than many of your dais, and to deny Council Member Wong the opportunity to be remote and serve his family's needs while serving the
city's needs is not convenience.
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01:52:14.660 --> 01:52:20.920
San Rao: We should be fortunate that we have members of the public willing to serve when they have a high barrier.
78601:52:21.420 --> 01:52:31.410San Rao: And to deny them the opportunity to do that is to limit representation of Cupertino residents. This
is suppression of democracy. Thank you.
787
01:52:35.200 --> 01:52:38.380Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, San. Next we will welcome Jennifer Griffin.
78801:52:42.230 --> 01:52:44.980Jennifer Griffin: Hello, good evening, can you all hear me?
789
01:52:45.170 --> 01:52:46.199
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): We can hear you.
79001:52:46.200 --> 01:52:55.220Jennifer Griffin: Oh, yes, thank you. This is Jennifer Griffin, and, I will tell you, I am very, very concerned about the civil grand jury report.
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01:52:55.430 --> 01:52:59.699
Jennifer Griffin: We went through something like this during the pandemic.
79201:53:00.130 --> 01:53:03.799Jennifer Griffin: And we had to use remote during pandemic.
793
01:53:04.030 --> 01:53:13.449
Jennifer Griffin: I think it's very important that we just recognize that we had our assembly member come in
tonight from Sacramento
79401:53:13.680 --> 01:53:26.100Jennifer Griffin: via remote. He's up in Sacramento doing good works, and he was able to join us tonight, earlier, to speak about issues that are important to Cupertino.
795
01:53:26.240 --> 01:53:37.149
Jennifer Griffin: I often now have to take care of… we have elderly people in our family. We just installed Wi-Fi at my mother's in Aptos.
79601:53:37.370 --> 01:53:46.259Jennifer Griffin: so that I can come in on Zoom there to other meetings, and then my mother-in-law in San
Jose. But… and that's…
797
01:53:46.470 --> 01:53:55.760Jennifer Griffin: I'm coming in tonight that way, too. I think that there are decisions that are made about…
798
01:53:55.990 --> 01:54:08.309
Jennifer Griffin: how we come in remotely, and I'm… I'm happy with the way things are, that… just what the
city clerk went through tonight to verify that everything is being done legally.
79901:54:08.310 --> 01:54:19.230Jennifer Griffin: for, council members, et cetera, commissioners coming in remotely. I don't have a problem with it, and I think it should continue. It really helps.
800
01:54:19.350 --> 01:54:20.970
Jennifer Griffin: I think I'm all done.
80101:54:20.970 --> 01:54:21.640Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Jen.
802
01:54:21.810 --> 01:54:24.740
Jennifer Griffin: Yes, that is your time, thank you.
80301:54:25.190 --> 01:54:35.139Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you. I do have one hand raised, but that hand was raised after the 9-minute cutoff, Mayor, so that concludes Speak Under Oral Communications this evening.
804
01:54:35.300 --> 01:54:43.150
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): All right, thank you, Madam City Clerk. Next is our consent calendar. Madam
City Clerk, do we have any items that have been pulled for consent?
80501:54:43.500 --> 01:54:47.180Speaker 2 (Community Hall): No, Mayor. Not that I have received. Okay.
806
01:54:47.185 --> 01:54:50.724
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you. Do we have council members who wish to pull an item?
80701:54:53.015 --> 01:54:54.705Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Councilmember Fruen?
80801:54:55.670 --> 01:55:00.599
Speaker 8 (Community Hall): Yes, I'm not asking to pull an item, but I do want to make separate comments
on item 14.
80901:55:01.120 --> 01:55:02.920Speaker 8 (Community Hall): Except… okay.
810
01:55:07.730 --> 01:55:15.599Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, I would as well. Okay, I'm not seeing any other hands raised for this item.
811
01:55:16.910 --> 01:55:21.459
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Do members of the public wish to speak to the consent items at this time?
81201:55:32.340 --> 01:55:37.520Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Mayor, at this time, I have one request to speak in person, and I currently see one hand raised virtually.
813
01:55:38.210 --> 01:55:39.000
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Okay?
81401:55:39.340 --> 01:55:44.800Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Okay, so at this time, this speaker card does not have a name.
815
01:55:45.340 --> 01:55:50.030
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Rhoda, okay, so we will welcome Rhoda, and then we'll go to the…
81601:55:50.090 --> 01:56:06.130Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Request to speak, virtually. Just as a reminder, members of the public wishing to speak regarding any items on the consent calendar shall submit a request to speak hard or raise their hand virtually within the first 9 minutes of the start of this public comment period, or before the public comment period is closed, whichever comes first. Welcome, Rhoda.
817
01:56:06.800 --> 01:56:10.340
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): I managed to fill everything out except for my name. My apologies.
81801:56:10.590 --> 01:56:27.549Speaker 23 (Community Hall): Anyway, regarding Sister Cities, before you'd like to see… perhaps you could postpone this. Unfortunately, I didn't have a chance to write to y'all in detail, but anybody who does anything with Sister Cities needs to watch the video… Dwight D. Eisenhower's
819
01:56:27.660 --> 01:56:36.120Speaker 23 (Community Hall): video when these cities, sister city programs were created. These were created for neighbor to neighbor.
82001:56:36.480 --> 01:56:41.289Speaker 23 (Community Hall): It wasn't… it was actually… that was… that was what it was about. It was…
821
01:56:42.330 --> 01:56:48.030Speaker 23 (Community Hall): grassroots diplomacy. It wasn't about Diplomat to diplomat.
822
01:56:48.650 --> 01:56:51.459
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): And I think that we should not have
82301:56:52.520 --> 01:56:58.119Speaker 23 (Community Hall): any city staff, go on sister city trips, If they do.
824
01:56:58.380 --> 01:57:02.209Speaker 23 (Community Hall): They should do it on their own time, and on their own dime.
82501:57:03.930 --> 01:57:07.430Speaker 23 (Community Hall): We should not be having PTO for
826
01:57:07.750 --> 01:57:12.730
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): staff going on Scissor City trips, or paid time. It's wrong.
82701:57:12.920 --> 01:57:18.380Speaker 23 (Community Hall): And it's… it really… it goes against what the Sister Cities programs are about.
828
01:57:19.150 --> 01:57:24.420
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): If there is a staff person who wants to put on their regular, normal person
hat.
82901:57:24.830 --> 01:57:28.510Speaker 23 (Community Hall): They can take vacation time, and…
830
01:57:29.180 --> 01:57:33.940
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): Open their own wallets, and go on the trip, just like everybody else does.
83101:57:34.550 --> 01:57:43.580Speaker 23 (Community Hall): But I've seen this so many times, also in the past among council members who went on many, many trips. Also.
832
01:57:44.140 --> 01:57:49.250
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): abuse of expenses. There's a little bit of a disconnect.
83301:57:49.400 --> 01:57:53.830Speaker 23 (Community Hall): When city employees, although they're not supposed to travel unemployed.
834
01:57:53.930 --> 01:58:10.619
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): internationally, but when city employees do travel, they're not supposed to
travel business class. However, we have seen city council members travel business class and have half that
ticket reimbursed, or stay at luxury hotels and have half of that reimbursed. That's wrong.
83501:58:11.120 --> 01:58:16.610
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): You know what? You can… if you want to go, you can go economy.
836
01:58:16.830 --> 01:58:25.119
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): And maybe have half of economy, or half of economy reimbursed, and if you want to go business class, you can do it on your own dime.
83701:58:26.440 --> 01:58:34.390Speaker 23 (Community Hall): But I… it just doesn't… it's just not right to me, and it really sets a bad tone
for how we spend our public money.
838
01:58:35.830 --> 01:58:38.060Speaker 23 (Community Hall): And… And,
83901:58:38.760 --> 01:58:44.980Speaker 23 (Community Hall): We just want you to represent… we'd like you to represent the city, but we
also want You know?
840
01:58:45.790 --> 01:58:50.960Speaker 23 (Community Hall): our residents to represent… are represented as well. Nobody's… nobody's paying residents to go.
84101:58:51.230 --> 01:59:01.260
Speaker 23 (Community Hall): So the fact that if you get half back on an economy ticket, that's saying
something. But you shouldn't get half back on a first class or business, nor at a Ritz Hotel or any of those
things.
84201:59:01.410 --> 01:59:04.579Speaker 23 (Community Hall): So, I've set my piece. Thank you very much. Have a good night.
843
01:59:06.080 --> 01:59:07.030
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Rhoda.
84401:59:07.850 --> 01:59:17.140Speaker 2 (Community Hall): And, that concludes the request to speak, here in person in Community Hall, so we will move to the request to speak virtually. We have one hand raised. We will welcome San Rao.
845
01:59:19.730 --> 01:59:30.230
San Rao: Good evening, Mayor Moore, Council Members, Vice Mayor Chao, speaking on behalf of myself only
as a resident. I'd like to comment on the consent calendar items that involve street paving.
84601:59:30.320 --> 01:59:48.040San Rao: I would like to provide my strong support for street paving. Under Mayor Dorsey Paul, we had some of the best streets in the city. We have allowed the streets to degrade under the prior council. That made street paving a non-priority that needs to be
847
01:59:48.220 --> 01:59:50.129
San Rao: Undone and restored.
84801:59:50.240 --> 02:00:03.890San Rao: Despite the reports that came out saying Cupertino has good streets, the conditions on the ground
tell a different story. If you drive on Bubb, if you drive on Stevens Creek, if you drive on Creston, the
conditions are
84902:00:04.070 --> 02:00:10.299San Rao: quite bad, and… and as we… as we look at this report, I fully support and
85002:00:10.480 --> 02:00:23.050
San Rao: request that we prioritize more street paving. I also want to say the slurry seal is not sufficient.
You need to look at actually doing paving, because I've seen slurry seal on Lockport that was done a year
ago.
85102:00:23.130 --> 02:00:41.729San Rao: or maybe 2 years ago, and with the winter rains, the slurry seal tends to flow downhill. So when you use slurry seal on… on streets that have a gradient, the slurry seal flows downhill, and then if you come look at Lockwood now, you'll see quite a bit of striations where the slurry seal
852
02:00:41.850 --> 02:00:44.240
San Rao: Flew downhill, or, or,
85302:00:44.360 --> 02:00:53.719San Rao: Or, basically went downhill after the, after the rains. I also want to point out Creston has been ignored in this process. I have a number of streets in the…
854
02:00:53.820 --> 02:01:10.140
San Rao: northwest corner of the city to the east of Hotel, and to the north of Mr. Knoll, so I'd encourage Public Works Director, mostly, if you'd like to come out for a drive, I'd like to take him around. Starling Drive, Baxter Drive, Creston Drive, Ainsworth Drive.
85502:01:10.180 --> 02:01:26.839
San Rao: A number of these streets are in really bad condition, just because the far end of the city shouldn't
mean that they should be ignored. I want to thank Director Mosley for including Inspiration Heights. We
have not seen pavement work done here in over 12 years, all my time I've been here. And please do not
ignore Creston.
85602:01:26.840 --> 02:01:41.100San Rao: I'd like you to see Kristen and then decide if you can include the streets I mentioned. I'd be happy to send you a mail with those streets mentioned as well. Finally, before I run out of time, I do want to say I support the sister cities, and I can speak to that another time. Thank you.
857
02:01:43.440 --> 02:01:47.089Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, San. Mayor, that concludes the request to speak on the consent calendar.
85802:01:47.340 --> 02:01:53.319Speaker 1 (Community Hall): All right, thank you very much. With regards to,
859
02:01:53.320 --> 02:02:07.559
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): item 14, I did get an email from Mayor Turner, that he has 3 other cities which
have signed on to his letter as it is, and he will be sending it tomorrow.
86002:02:07.560 --> 02:02:12.729Speaker 1 (Community Hall): if… that helps, so I'm not sure if this item is, is a moot point.
861
02:02:12.810 --> 02:02:17.619
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Because of that. Councilmember Fruen, do you have some…
86202:02:18.230 --> 02:02:24.079Speaker 8 (Community Hall): thoughts on the matter? I just wanted to thank you for the openness and the willingness to collaborate on it.
863
02:02:24.720 --> 02:02:36.290
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Good, I think they're great ideas that you, have added to it, and perhaps
there's another route that we can, work in the future. I'm not sure…
86402:02:36.690 --> 02:02:42.150Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Are we still wanting to send this as an individual letter from Cupertina?
865
02:02:43.190 --> 02:02:49.440
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Because it's not the… we're no longer looking at the multi-jurisdictional letter,
we're… we have our own at this time.
86602:02:49.445 --> 02:02:56.404Speaker 8 (Community Hall): I feel comfortable with it, and if Mayor Turner's open to it, That's his business, too.
867
02:02:57.200 --> 02:03:16.160
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, so he's sent… he's already sending the one that he's written up, so we can send one independently. Okay? So, do you would, I'd like to make a motion to break out item 14 to vote on it, separately, from the rest of the… the consent calendar. Do I have a second?
86802:03:16.650 --> 02:03:24.049Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Second. Second, okay. Madam City Clerk, will you please conduct the roll call
vote?
86902:03:24.050 --> 02:03:26.550Speaker 7 (Community Hall): I do have a question. On item 4?
870
02:03:26.555 --> 02:03:27.705Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Not 14.
871
02:03:27.705 --> 02:03:31.505
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So, the other items. Okay.
87202:03:31.510 --> 02:03:32.260Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Joy…
87302:03:32.700 --> 02:03:37.600
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Now, do 14 first, do I do all the question comments?
874
02:03:37.600 --> 02:03:43.530Speaker 9 (Community Hall): I think the mayor was just taking a vote on whether to, pull the 14 out and vote on it separately.
87502:03:44.250 --> 02:03:59.700
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Yes, but I thought we would actually go ahead and vote on it, and then… and
then move the rest of the consent calendar in one, omnibus motion, and… and vote on that, and then if
there's a comment on the remaining items, it would have… Do we need to vote?
87602:03:59.705 --> 02:04:06.055Speaker 7 (Community Hall): to pull it, or can we just make a motion for item 14, and then make a motion for the rest?
877
02:04:06.545 --> 02:04:13.495
Speaker 9 (Community Hall): I do think you can make an item for 14 and then make a motion for the rest,
but I assumed that you were voting to pull it.
87802:04:13.500 --> 02:04:25.400Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Oh, no, just to vote on it separately from the rest, in case we have, some disagreement. I don't want item 14 to cause the entire set to have an issue. Oh, wait.
879
02:04:25.400 --> 02:04:28.879
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So, the motion was to vote, to move.
88002:04:29.630 --> 02:04:41.620Speaker 1 (Community Hall): to vote… yes, to move item 14 to a vote, so that we would vote now on item 14, pull it apart, and then we will pull it out of the set, and then we'll look at the rest. So, Madam City Clerk… May I had a comment?
881
02:04:41.620 --> 02:04:42.780Speaker 5 (Community Hall): Sure.
882
02:04:42.940 --> 02:05:00.390
Speaker 5 (Community Hall): I was one of the… I'm probably the only one who had reservations about the original letter that we discussed, that Mayor Turner drafted, so I'm really pleased with the effort that's gone into this version.
883
02:05:00.430 --> 02:05:07.709
Speaker 5 (Community Hall): So, I'm hoping that you won't make any changes if Mr. Mayor Turner wants to
jump in with you guys.
88402:05:08.870 --> 02:05:16.369Speaker 5 (Community Hall): perfectly okay with that, but as a standalone letter with the way it's drafted now, I think it's a…
885
02:05:16.540 --> 02:05:19.420
Speaker 5 (Community Hall): Far superior document than the earlier version.
88602:05:21.010 --> 02:05:29.989Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you for that. And Councilmember Frein, you, can accept a lot of, of that, praise there.
887
02:05:30.870 --> 02:05:35.870
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, so, Madam City Clerk, will you please… Conduct the roll call vote.
88802:05:35.905 --> 02:05:42.044Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Yes, Mayor, did we have a second? And I apologize, I didn't… I seconded. Okay, thank you.
889
02:05:42.265 --> 02:05:47.805
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Okay, so we are voting on item number 14, Councilmember Fruan.
89002:05:48.135 --> 02:05:52.064Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Aye. Councilmember Mohan? Aye. Councilmember Wong?
891
02:05:52.590 --> 02:05:53.140
R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: Dang.
89202:05:54.600 --> 02:05:57.350Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Vice Mayor from… er, Vice Mayor Chao.
893
02:05:57.490 --> 02:06:04.280
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Aye. Mayor Moore? Aye. Motion carries with long voting no. Okay, so next we
are…
89402:06:04.960 --> 02:06:20.100Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Voting to, move… Consent calendar items 5 through… 13… And… 15 through…
18.
895
02:06:20.540 --> 02:06:24.179
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Do I have a motion? So moved.
89602:06:24.340 --> 02:06:27.160Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, do I have a second? Second.
897
02:06:27.160 --> 02:06:30.899
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Yes, but I do have some questions, and… Please.
89802:06:30.900 --> 02:06:32.270Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Please, please do.
899
02:06:32.275 --> 02:06:36.724
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So, one public comment mentioned the difference between
90002:06:36.765 --> 02:06:55.565Speaker 7 (Community Hall): slurry seal that we are seeing a lot more than the repavement. I believe that's a result of our budget situation, so we have decided to reduce the cost, so we cannot, we don't do as much repavement, right?
901
02:06:55.575 --> 02:06:57.885
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Can we clarify that?
90202:07:04.645 --> 02:07:09.314Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Is this working? There it is. Good evening, Council.
903
02:07:09.785 --> 02:07:10.585
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): M…
90402:07:10.590 --> 02:07:11.919Speaker 19 (Community Hall): Yeah. Very good. Chad Mosley.
90502:07:11.925 --> 02:07:20.195
Speaker 16 (Community Hall): Director of Public Works, and, yeah, I think my predecessor also liked to talk
about paving, so here I am talking about paving.
90602:07:20.200 --> 02:07:24.019Speaker 24 (Community Hall): We use a combination of both,
90702:07:24.020 --> 02:07:41.160
Speaker 24 (Community Hall): an overlay project, as well as slurry seal. Slurry seal does a great job of
prolonging the life of pavement, and it does it at a very reasonable cost. It does not… it's not necessarily the
same product as a paving overlay. It's not that we're trying to,
90802:07:41.180 --> 02:07:55.019Speaker 24 (Community Hall): you know, cut paving costs by replacing overlays with slurry. We're actually using slurry as a life prolonger for the paving, so it's a standard process for keeping paving in a good
condition.
90902:07:58.260 --> 02:07:59.230Speaker 24 (Community Hall): Okay.
91002:08:02.640 --> 02:08:13.419Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So then, yeah, the next question is for the sister city policy. So, with this
update, any…
91102:08:14.000 --> 02:08:28.789Speaker 7 (Community Hall): staff travel will also require council approval. Does that also include the vacation time, or a paid staff time to maybe take any international travel?
91202:08:29.630 --> 02:08:44.330
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Because in the past, we had staff traveled on city-paid hours for this
international trip to Sister City, and what does the current proposal's revised policy say?
91302:08:45.170 --> 02:08:58.050Speaker 3 (Community Hall): So it doesn't… the policy doesn't go into the details of the time. It… you know, if it… it does clarify, though, if there's staff travel involved, that it will come to Council for approval, so that might be the… Only the travel.
914
02:08:58.055 --> 02:09:04.984
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Following cost, or the approval also for this… to, to stated purpose?
91502:09:05.155 --> 02:09:08.634Speaker 7 (Community Hall): to allow paid staff time overseas.
916
02:09:08.640 --> 02:09:17.930
Speaker 3 (Community Hall): I think all-inclusive… so if it's staff… if it's council-approved staff travel, that
means it's city-related, so we would bring
91702:09:18.130 --> 02:09:23.270Speaker 3 (Community Hall): You know, it would be covered by the city, in terms of the cost and then the time off.
918
02:09:23.565 --> 02:09:40.675
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Okay, yeah, it's a little vague in the policy, but I'd like to clarify if that's
included. That's good. Just want to clarify, so for the current sister city and friendship city, there is no change in the amount of
919
02:09:40.675 --> 02:09:48.325Speaker 7 (Community Hall): meeting space they can use, or any other change, right? We are just redefining terms.
920
02:09:48.325 --> 02:09:58.335
Speaker 3 (Community Hall): We're clarifying, some of the, you know, the terms, including the staff travel.
Yeah, and there's no change to the reservations of meeting space.
92102:09:59.620 --> 02:10:05.240Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Or the number of students needed to qualify… Correct. Student delegation?
922
02:10:05.245 --> 02:10:23.614
Speaker 3 (Community Hall): There is one, one slight change that we wanted to include is that, there have…
we have heard, particularly from one sister city group, that they've had difficulty getting visas for student delegations, whether it's, you know.
92302:10:23.755 --> 02:10:33.644Speaker 3 (Community Hall): I don't know what the reasons are, but there are documented reasons that some countries are experiencing difficulty and delays, so we didn't want to limit
924
02:10:33.685 --> 02:10:49.774Speaker 3 (Community Hall): or be that as a limiting factor. So we've just added that clarifying language, that there are other activities, including, you know, the community events that sister cities do… do produce at the moment, may qualify as a, as an alternative to that.
92502:10:50.850 --> 02:10:53.550
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): even… Okay, that's fine.
92602:10:54.950 --> 02:10:57.520Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you. Councilmember Wang?
92702:10:58.260 --> 02:11:23.009R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: Hi, yes, I just have a comment on item number 16. Over the past week, I've
had a chance to talk to multiple businesses about our ordinance here, which is above and beyond what other
cities are doing, and above beyond what the state law is. Many of them feel that customers should have
choices, businesses should have choices, and that we've taken an authoritarian approach here on this FAG
ordinance. I just want to point that out. I know we don't have the votes for it, but I just wanted
92802:11:23.010 --> 02:11:23.850R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: the comment.
929
02:11:24.140 --> 02:11:24.850
R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: Thank you.
93002:11:25.710 --> 02:11:31.600
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): All right, thank you, and seeing no further hands raised, Madam City Clerk, will
you please conduct the roll call vote?
93102:11:32.130 --> 02:11:36.120Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Councilmember Furren? Aye. Councilmember Mohan? Aye.
932
02:11:36.340 --> 02:11:37.600Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Councilmember Wong?
93302:11:37.970 --> 02:11:38.520R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: Aye.
934
02:11:39.560 --> 02:11:44.540
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Vice Mayor Cho? Aye. Mayor Moore? Aye. The motion carries unanimously.
93502:11:44.540 --> 02:11:55.480Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay, the next item is an action calendar. We've been going for a while, though, so we're going to take a 5-minute break, and we'll be back at 8… 8.09.
936
02:12:00.150 --> 02:12:01.410
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): There you are listed.
93702:12:03.630 --> 02:12:04.840Community Hall: Much needed funding.
938
02:19:47.799 --> 02:19:51.009
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Madam City Manager, do we have a presentation?
93902:19:51.900 --> 02:20:05.559Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Thank you, Mayor. We do not have a presentation, but we… this item is an introduction and first reading of an ordinance to update various sections of the Cupertino Muni Code to reflect recent organizational changes.
940
02:20:05.560 --> 02:20:16.999
Speaker 3 (Community Hall): These updates are administrative in nature and are intended to align the Muni Code with the City's current structure, including the transition of human resources to the City Manager's Office and
94102:20:17.000 --> 02:20:29.390Speaker 3 (Community Hall): the renaming of Administrative Services Department to the Department of
Finance. The proposed amendments ensure that the department names, titles, and responsibilities are
accurately reflected.
94202:20:29.390 --> 02:20:41.270Speaker 3 (Community Hall): improving clarity and consistency across city operations. I will now turn it over
to Jonathan Orozco, who is currently the Acting Director of Administrative Services Department, to walk
through the proposed changes.
94302:20:42.230 --> 02:20:48.649Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Thank you, Tina. And good evening, Honorable Mayor Moore and Council
Members. It's going to be a short presentation, so.
94402:20:48.650 --> 02:20:59.959Speaker 25 (Community Hall): jump right into it. Tonight's item is the introduction and first reading of an ordinance updating several sections of the Municipal Code to reflect the City's recent organizational realignment.
945
02:21:00.280 --> 02:21:07.770
Speaker 25 (Community Hall): These changes are administrative in nature and are intended to improve
clarity, consistency, and alignment with how the city is currently structured and operated.
94602:21:08.630 --> 02:21:12.850Speaker 25 (Community Hall): As part of the recent reorganization, the Human Resources Division has been
947
02:21:13.190 --> 02:21:18.449
Speaker 25 (Community Hall): transition to the City Manager's Office to better align the Citywide Strategy
and Workforce
94802:21:19.130 --> 02:21:37.630Speaker 25 (Community Hall): planning. Additionally, the Department of Administrative Services has been refocused on core financial functions and renamed to the Department of Finance. Importantly, this realization does not add staffing or create new executive-level positions. It is limited to reporting structure
and alignment.
949
02:21:39.500 --> 02:21:47.479Speaker 25 (Community Hall): The proposed amendments include updating references from administrative services to finance across applicable chapters.
95002:21:47.840 --> 02:21:59.839
Speaker 25 (Community Hall): Reflecting in the updated… sorry, reflecting the updated departmental
structure within the code, including Department of Finance's focus on accounting, budgeting, and
purchasing.
95102:21:59.990 --> 02:22:05.749Speaker 25 (Community Hall): And lastly, clarifying roles and responsibilities to align with current operations.
952
02:22:06.100 --> 02:22:18.190
Speaker 25 (Community Hall): These updates span several chapters, including administrative citations, city
clerk and treasurer functions, departmental organization, audit committee support, and certain finance-
related code sections.
953
02:22:19.120 --> 02:22:27.949
Speaker 25 (Community Hall): Next steps in… if City Council introduces the ordinance tonight, staff will return on May 19th for the second reading and adoption.
954
02:22:28.280 --> 02:22:36.450
Speaker 25 (Community Hall): At that time, staff will also bring forward updates to the Unrepresented
Employees Policy and Compensation Program to reflect the departmental name change.
95502:22:37.210 --> 02:22:40.489Speaker 25 (Community Hall): That concludes my presentation. I am available for any questions.
956
02:22:41.760 --> 02:22:47.249
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you very much for the report. Are there any Council questions before we
open this item up for public comments?
95702:22:51.810 --> 02:22:55.739Speaker 1 (Community Hall): I see one hand raised from Councilmember Wong?
958
02:22:57.430 --> 02:23:12.559
R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: I just wanted to make sure that the clarification to everyone is that, you
know, the HR department's still there, finance is different, but they're spread out, and pretty much what
we're seeing is reporting directly back to the city manager of two distinct functions and two distinct department heads. Is that correct?
95902:23:15.180 --> 02:23:25.359Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Councilmember Wong, there are no two separate departments. So the Human Resources was a division of the Administrative Services Department. It's moving…
960
02:23:25.370 --> 02:23:37.640Speaker 3 (Community Hall): into the city manager's office as a division, so there's no creation of an HR department. It's just the renaming of the administrative services department to the Finance Department, which does not include HR.
96102:23:38.630 --> 02:23:45.690
R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: Understood. Okay, so this is to reflect the changes in terms of reporting
structure. I just wanted the public to be clear, because I wasn't exactly clear, so…
96202:23:46.890 --> 02:23:47.780Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Yep, thank you.
96302:23:47.890 --> 02:23:49.890
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Great. Vice Mayor?
96402:23:50.710 --> 02:24:04.879Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Yeah, actually, my questions were answered in the supplement desk item today. Really thankful for that. I'm sharing that here because I think this is probably the information people
96502:24:05.080 --> 02:24:29.169Speaker 7 (Community Hall): would appreciate. So I asked whether there will be any addition, executive-level position. There will not be, but I do wonder how big is the human resource that's being moved, because I thought it might be big. And then, so here is City Manager's office currently has 21 full-time
employees and 2 part-time, so these are the current,
96602:24:29.170 --> 02:24:34.409Speaker 7 (Community Hall): city manager office employees, and HR will add only 5 more,
96702:24:34.410 --> 02:24:38.829Speaker 7 (Community Hall): full-time employee there, and the Department of Finance will…
968
02:24:39.120 --> 02:24:43.250Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Now have 13 full-time to part-time employees, so…
96902:24:43.750 --> 02:24:48.310Speaker 7 (Community Hall): This number gives me a better picture of this reorganization.
970
02:24:48.430 --> 02:24:59.019
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So thank you for the answer on that. And here is a list of executive-level positions we currently have. And, as mentioned.
97102:24:59.480 --> 02:25:01.100Speaker 7 (Community Hall): only 3…
972
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): We have 3 assistant directors for department that's public-facing. So, Community Development, Parks and Rec, and Public Works. So, you can reference the desk item for other questions. Thank you.
97302:25:16.590 --> 02:25:22.560Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you. At this time, do we have any members of the public who would like
to comment on this item?
97402:25:24.160 --> 02:25:33.319Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Mayor, at this time, I don't see any requests to speak in person, but I do see one hand raised virtually, so we will go to the members of the public
97502:25:34.090 --> 02:25:36.989
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): requesting to speak virtually. Welcome, San Rao.
97602:25:39.130 --> 02:25:44.870San Rao: Good evening, Mayor Moore, Vice Mayor Chao, Councilmember, speaking on behalf of myself only as a resident. I'd like to…
97702:25:45.240 --> 02:25:49.810San Rao: I encourage you to change the suggested wording from the
978
02:25:50.030 --> 02:26:04.099
San Rao: proposed change from Director of Administrative Service to Director of Finance to instead change
the language preceding it, which says, including but not limited to, change that to such as, so that it is suggestive rather than exhaustive.
97902:26:04.210 --> 02:26:14.610San Rao: Or, or at least minimally, inclusive. I think you're… you're having to make these changes because the language says, such as
980
02:26:14.760 --> 02:26:20.930San Rao: Including, but not limited to, which means you need to include at least the named references.
98102:26:21.150 --> 02:26:39.100San Rao: And rather than make changes every time you have a reorganization plan, you can change the preceding language to say such as, that allows you the flexibility to make changes without modifying this
each time. I'd also like to propose another change, which is instead of using the word director, use head off.
98202:26:39.410 --> 02:26:42.159San Rao: A director could be head off, but…
98302:26:42.280 --> 02:26:44.530San Rao: You could have a head-off that's not a director.
984
02:26:44.770 --> 02:26:52.300San Rao: And as we had a structural budget deficit, maybe we have to reduce the number of directors. Maybe we have to consolidate departments.
98502:26:52.410 --> 02:27:12.020San Rao: And if we do, you don't have to come back to do this lagnet change again, because we've named
directors for each department explicitly. While we're making this change, let's reference department heads
as head off. That gives you the flexibility to reorganize to accommodate the city's structural budget deficit. It
is time that we reorganize.
98602:27:12.090 --> 02:27:14.290San Rao: We should also consider
987
02:27:14.500 --> 02:27:22.429
San Rao: whether we need assistant directors and directors for these departments. While they're nice to
have, we cannot afford
98802:27:22.630 --> 02:27:24.490
San Rao: The… the costs…
989
02:27:24.700 --> 02:27:35.889
San Rao: Both from a budget deficit, but also from a cost recovery perspective. So, it is critical that you do the hard work that is needed here in order to protect our ground staff.
99002:27:35.990 --> 02:27:46.520San Rao: Because if you do not do that, the cuts are paid by essential, critical workforce that the city needs.
And I do not want us to lose a single ground staff employee.
991
02:27:46.750 --> 02:28:00.049San Rao: Not in public works, not in boxing track. I don't want to see the union employees affected. What I'd like to see is how we cut costs elsewhere. And so give yourselves a little more room and flexibility to achieve what you need while you're making changes here. Thank you.
992
02:28:03.620 --> 02:28:04.460
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you.
99302:28:05.620 --> 02:28:11.390Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Sam. That, thank you. Mayor, that concludes the request to speak, on this item.
994
02:28:11.390 --> 02:28:15.290
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you. I do have a quick question for the City Attorney.
99502:28:15.900 --> 02:28:21.529Speaker 1 (Community Hall): To the first edit, do you feel that that is a necessary change?
99602:28:23.240 --> 02:28:25.480
Speaker 9 (Community Hall): Would you clarify which one you're talking about?
997
02:28:25.715 --> 02:28:37.495Speaker 1 (Community Hall): It was not the… the head of the departments. Perhaps another council member caught it a little more clearly, but it was something to change the introduction to the… to the item.
99802:28:38.090 --> 02:28:38.980
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Which one?
999
02:28:41.310 --> 02:28:42.640Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Introduction.
100002:28:49.840 --> 02:28:52.769Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Vice Mayor, did you catch that? The first edit?
1001
02:28:52.775 --> 02:28:56.284
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): We talked about two… rather than…
100202:28:56.435 --> 02:29:05.644Speaker 7 (Community Hall): to use including and not limited to… That's right. …to use, such as. So I looked
up the resolution, the only…
100302:29:06.065 --> 02:29:08.805Speaker 7 (Community Hall): place I can see is,
100402:29:08.975 --> 02:29:20.054Speaker 7 (Community Hall): this part, the enforcement officer, that's relevant. There are other occurrences
of including that's not related to the finance.
100502:29:20.225 --> 02:29:26.334Speaker 7 (Community Hall): function, but I don't think that's necessary to change this to such as.
100602:29:27.230 --> 02:29:31.310Speaker 1 (Community Hall): I agree with you. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I don't know, is there any other…
1007
02:29:36.040 --> 02:29:46.500Speaker 9 (Community Hall): Including just means that this includes these, but it's not limited. So saying such as is broader than including, but not limited to. I guess he.
100802:29:46.505 --> 02:29:57.955Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Enter with such as you don't… you can even include part of the list, not…
including at least this… this many, you can add more.
100902:29:58.145 --> 02:30:02.414Speaker 7 (Community Hall): But I… yeah, I think Dix is good. Alright.
101002:30:02.575 --> 02:30:10.885Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you. Do we have a motion at this time to… Approve the recommended
action.
101102:30:10.885 --> 02:30:14.775Speaker 7 (Community Hall): The motion, moved the recommended action. Second.
101202:30:14.780 --> 02:30:17.200Speaker 1 (Community Hall): We have a second from Councilmember Fruen.
1013
02:30:17.760 --> 02:30:21.209Speaker 1 (Community Hall): And do we have any further comments from the Council?
1014
02:30:22.850 --> 02:30:36.309
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): I will make one that I'm very glad to see this modification happen. To me, it's more logical to have the highest-ranking financial officer be our treasurer and separate the duties from HR and finance, and so I'm glad to see this moving forward.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): I see no other requests to speak. I don't have a…
101602:30:41.370 --> 02:30:42.330Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Questioning, yeah.
1017
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Yeah, sure, Vice Mayor. Sorry. I…
101802:30:45.830 --> 02:31:00.919Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Yeah, I do think this change makes sense, because administrative service covering both functions has been kind of odd. However, I do have a concern that the… it seems the city manager's office is getting
1019
02:31:01.160 --> 02:31:20.310
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): heavier and heavier, so how will the city manager's office be able to handle all
of this? Would that… would there be a need to create another department later? Then we add more executive-level positioning. That's my main concern with this, yeah.
102002:31:21.780 --> 02:31:23.090Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Huh.
1021
02:31:24.830 --> 02:31:36.650
Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Thank you for sharing your concerns, Vice Mayor, that there's currently no plans to create another executive-level position. You know, this is something that we are…
102202:31:36.790 --> 02:31:56.510Speaker 3 (Community Hall): you know, HR is such a specialized role. It is, you know, it's primarily autonomous, it's more bringing it into the city manager's office for more executive oversight, and so that we
can have more of a, you know, enhanced service delivery to all city departments. But,
102302:31:56.910 --> 02:32:08.739Speaker 3 (Community Hall): it's yet to be seen how it will work. I'm hopeful that it would work the way that I'm envisioning it, but if there's, you know, future needs or adjustments, I will come back to Council with more information.
1024
02:32:08.740 --> 02:32:15.720
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Yeah, thank you. Just a little background. Before I got on the council, I
remember, at the time.
102502:32:16.790 --> 02:32:29.080
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): the assistant city manager was a position that's also the director of community
development. So it's kind of… now we… and then later on, we had
102602:32:29.230 --> 02:32:34.640Speaker 7 (Community Hall): separate director of community development and the Assistant Manager.
1027
02:32:34.690 --> 02:32:45.680Speaker 7 (Community Hall): City manager, so it's good that the assistant city manager is now removed, and then you have, made, Deputy City Manager a little more
102802:32:45.680 --> 02:32:54.880Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Higher level executive position. So, maybe with that change, that would help
your manager, the city manager's office.
102902:32:55.120 --> 02:32:55.940Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Yeah.
103002:32:55.945 --> 02:33:09.114Speaker 3 (Community Hall): that's… that's the hope. But, you know, as you… as you were alluding to,
there's… there have been changes all along as the city grows. So, like I said, right now I'm not anticipating
any changes, but, you know, I'll report back, and yeah, thanks.
103102:33:09.115 --> 02:33:10.195Speaker 5 (Community Hall): Thanks. Thank you.
103202:33:11.140 --> 02:33:14.880
Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Madam City Clerk, will you please conduct the roll call vote? Yes, Mayor.
103302:33:14.885 --> 02:33:16.475Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Councilmember Fruen. Aye.
103402:33:16.615 --> 02:33:19.724Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Councilmember Mohan? Aye. Councilmember Wong?
1035
02:33:19.980 --> 02:33:20.530R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: Bye.
103602:33:21.470 --> 02:33:27.080Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Vice Mayor Chow? Aye. Mayor Moore? Aye. The motion cares unanimously. Great.
1037
02:33:27.085 --> 02:33:39.085Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you. Next, we move to item 20. These are minor revisions to the municipal code. I'm not going to list all of the chapters. Madam City Manager, will… do we have a.
1038
02:33:39.085 --> 02:33:39.685Speaker 3 (Community Hall): support.
1039
02:33:39.755 --> 02:33:52.624
Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Thank you, Mayor. We do have a staff report, and we do have a short
presentation as well, so this item is the annual Muni Code Amendments, routine updates that address minor
corrections and align the code with state and federal law.
104002:33:52.625 --> 02:34:00.115Speaker 3 (Community Hall): As well as our current administrative practices. And I will now turn it over to Deputy City Manager Kirsten Squasha to present this item.
1041
02:34:05.665 --> 02:34:08.445
Speaker 3 (Community Hall): Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, and.
104202:34:08.450 --> 02:34:14.099Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Councilmembers. I'm just going to pull up my presentation. This is a brief presentation.
1043
02:34:19.670 --> 02:34:23.150
Speaker 2 (Community Hall): And video, I am sharing my screen. Okay, I see it, great.
104402:34:26.520 --> 02:34:32.469Speaker 26 (Community Hall): So, this is, these are… this process is…
1045
02:34:32.960 --> 02:34:40.259
Speaker 26 (Community Hall): A process that the city goes through regularly to correct minor errors and
revise outdated municipal code sections.
104602:34:40.570 --> 02:34:47.479Speaker 27 (Community Hall): These are routine, and they are intended to make sure that the code is clear and aligned with evolving state and
1047
02:34:47.680 --> 02:34:48.950
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): federal laws.
104802:34:51.250 --> 02:35:01.119Speaker 27 (Community Hall): Administrative updates are… Also made to improve business administration and to clarify administrative updates are staffing updates.
1049
02:35:03.100 --> 02:35:07.369
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): And… These proposed updates are not intended to…
105002:35:07.880 --> 02:35:12.080
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): to introduce new policy for Council consideration this evening.
1051
02:35:13.600 --> 02:35:29.790
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): So, this slide highlights a summary of the code revisions being proposed. The first item relates to the Brown Act. This is non-substantive. It modernizes special meeting notice provisions by removing outdated delivery methods.
105202:35:30.100 --> 02:35:34.569
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): Such as Telegram and personal delivery.
1053
02:35:34.570 --> 02:35:35.559Speaker 26 (Community Hall): the…
105402:35:36.095 --> 02:35:38.854Speaker 27 (Community Hall): The standard method of delivery is electronic communication.
1055
02:35:38.855 --> 02:35:42.295
Speaker 26 (Community Hall): Though the code does not prescribe the method.
105602:35:44.260 --> 02:35:54.000Speaker 27 (Community Hall): Second, update aligns with public works definitions, with recent state law, AB 2192.
1057
02:35:54.120 --> 02:35:58.459
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): By updating the Public Works project definition.
105802:35:58.590 --> 02:36:02.740Speaker 27 (Community Hall): And we are only suggesting to add a word
1059
02:36:03.110 --> 02:36:08.629
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): Installation to the list of project activities, so no operational change.
106002:36:09.830 --> 02:36:21.540Speaker 27 (Community Hall): Third, this item clarifies business license appeal procedures, including filing deadlines and hearing timelines to improve Predictability and scheduled
1061
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Speaker 27 (Community Hall): hearings.
106202:36:23.440 --> 02:36:28.199Speaker 27 (Community Hall): This is a… this is a staff recommendation.
1063
02:36:30.670 --> 02:36:44.210
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): So we have, this next item is… relates to the bingo prize limits, which
conforms with state law, the penal code, and it increases the maximum cap for
106402:36:44.410 --> 02:36:56.280Speaker 27 (Community Hall): prize limits to $500 per game from $250 per game. So we're not discussing bingo fees at all.
1065
02:36:56.550 --> 02:37:02.309Speaker 26 (Community Hall): And a few more. We have also added a definition of stationary mobile equipment.
106602:37:02.315 --> 02:37:03.095Speaker 27 (Community Hall): equipment.
1067
02:37:03.245 --> 02:37:10.114Speaker 27 (Community Hall): to the code. This actually matches recently adopted.
106802:37:10.120 --> 02:37:11.140Speaker 26 (Community Hall): did.
1069
02:37:11.560 --> 02:37:13.729
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): conditions for the RV ordinance.
107002:37:14.360 --> 02:37:23.809Speaker 27 (Community Hall): And also, we are recommending removing outdated sales restriction language in the abandoned vehicles chapter.
1071
02:37:25.870 --> 02:37:38.759
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): The next change relates to feeding wildlife in city parks. It updates regulation terminology to expand it to wildlife instead of,
107202:37:38.760 --> 02:37:39.440Speaker 26 (Community Hall): simply…
1073
02:37:39.440 --> 02:37:49.820
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): water… Let's see. Waterfowl. Coots Waterfowl, yes. Thank you.
107402:37:50.160 --> 02:37:51.950Speaker 26 (Community Hall): Thank you, Councilmember Rohan.
1075
02:37:52.685 --> 02:37:58.425
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): Additionally, it adds clarifying, language to advertising and sales.
107602:37:58.785 --> 02:38:09.325Speaker 27 (Community Hall): Restrictions in parks, and essentially that ensures that the city has control over regulation during city events on, sales and vending and marketing.
1077
02:38:10.325 --> 02:38:17.565
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): And the final update is to conform to FEMA and federal law. It updates
107802:38:17.865 --> 02:38:35.085Speaker 27 (Community Hall): flood damage prevention… the flood damage prevention chapter to reflect current FEMA flood insurance study, and as well as manufactured home standards. The city does not have
manufactured homes, but we still would like to conform with… with FEMA.
1079
02:38:35.455 --> 02:38:36.555Speaker 27 (Community Hall): And…
108002:38:37.265 --> 02:38:50.244Speaker 27 (Community Hall): The recommended action before you this evening is to introduce and conduct
the first reading of the ordinance, which is ordinance number 26-2284, and it would be amending Muni Code
Sections
108102:38:50.325 --> 02:39:06.004Speaker 27 (Community Hall): 2.04.020, I… well, I guess I should… shall I read everything, Mayor? I'll go ahead and go through everything. 3.2, 3.020, 5.04.480, 5.32,
1082
02:39:06.665 --> 02:39:16.495
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): 1… 3… 0… 11.28.010, 11.28.050, 13.04.
108302:39:16.985 --> 02:39:17.855Speaker 26 (Community Hall): 30, 13…
108402:39:17.855 --> 02:39:19.985
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): 19.04.180.
1085
02:39:19.985 --> 02:39:20.724Speaker 26 (Community Hall): 16%.
108602:39:20.730 --> 02:39:26.750Speaker 27 (Community Hall): 52.011, and 16.52.053. I'm a little rusty.
1087
02:39:26.755 --> 02:39:31.385
Speaker 26 (Community Hall): since I was a city clerk. Thank you, that concludes my presentation.
108802:39:31.390 --> 02:39:37.559Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Well, thank you so much. Do we first have some Council clarifying questions on this item?
1089
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): I'm not seeing any. I'll look at Zoom.
109002:39:44.800 --> 02:39:48.699Speaker 1 (Community Hall): I don't see a hand raised. Vice Mayor? Yeah.
1091
02:39:48.960 --> 02:39:49.790Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Okay.
109202:39:50.290 --> 02:39:51.370Speaker 1 (Community Hall): So…
1093
02:39:53.240 --> 02:40:00.360
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Just want to clarify which part is a state requirement, which part is,
109402:40:00.520 --> 02:40:04.919Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Existing practice, or anything new?
1095
02:40:05.170 --> 02:40:14.520
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Because… so the bingo fee, I understand the increase from $250 to $500 is, to
align with the state law.
109602:40:14.750 --> 02:40:21.190Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Right, no question about that. But the business license, appeal
1097
02:40:21.410 --> 02:40:28.120
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): That's not a state law, so that's to align with our existing practice.
109802:40:28.125 --> 02:40:36.664Speaker 27 (Community Hall): That is correct, Vice Mayor. So I, so we, we, we added, two section amendments. The first one
1099
02:40:36.845 --> 02:40:42.905
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): Has to do with the number of days allowed for an appellant to file
110002:40:42.965 --> 02:40:58.124Speaker 27 (Community Hall): an appeal. Currently, the code is silent on whether or not that those are business days or calendar days, so we're just clarifying that this, timeline is for calendar days for them to submit. So that adds clarity for the appellant.
1101
02:40:58.415 --> 02:41:08.034
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): on when they need to, submit an appeal. The second update just adds a line, to… to, clarify
1102
02:41:08.215 --> 02:41:12.545
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): When the hearings will be scheduled with the Council.
110302:41:12.925 --> 02:41:22.955Speaker 27 (Community Hall): because Council does have a recess in August, that could present an issue
with being able to meet that timeline.
110402:41:23.295 --> 02:41:30.085Speaker 27 (Community Hall): That's one example, but it just… so it adds predictability for, for, applicant deadlines and public hearings.
110502:41:30.090 --> 02:41:39.640
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): not changing the number of days, we're just clarifying these are calendar days.
Yes, correct. Yeah, just want to… and then, there…
110602:41:39.930 --> 02:41:43.980Speaker 7 (Community Hall): The other thing is the mobile equipment.
110702:41:44.090 --> 02:41:49.920
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So, it's crossed out, it's, maybe let me share.
110802:41:51.450 --> 02:41:52.680Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Oh, sorry.
110902:41:55.260 --> 02:42:02.100Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So I see this section is crossed out. It's unlawful for any person or persons to
sell.
111002:42:03.650 --> 02:42:05.650Speaker 7 (Community Hall): On any public street.
111102:42:06.180 --> 02:42:29.349Speaker 7 (Community Hall): But then this portion, or on any private land abiding a public street where
traffic flow might be affected, that's crossed out, so can people sell or not sell? Because we do see, like, kids
having a laminate state, stand by a park or somewhere. So, by crossing it out, are we aligning with the state
law?
111202:42:30.490 --> 02:42:37.280Speaker 26 (Community Hall): Vice Mayor, I'm using a lifeline. We have our Director of Community Development.
1113
02:42:37.470 --> 02:42:37.980
Speaker 27 (Community Hall): Here.
111402:42:38.830 --> 02:42:43.219
Speaker 8 (Community Hall): Vice Mayor, good evening, State Council members, Ben Fujif, Director of
Community Development.
111502:42:43.225 --> 02:42:43.965Speaker 24 (Community Hall): section is.
1116
02:42:43.970 --> 02:42:44.720Speaker 10 (Community Hall): to allow.
111702:42:44.725 --> 02:42:49.615Speaker 16 (Community Hall): our code enforcement team the ability to actually code enforce. So, this language is…
1118
02:42:49.615 --> 02:43:06.105Speaker 28 (Community Hall): Indicates, where traffic flow might be affected, so that is… could be very difficult to measure and could be subjective. So, what we're suggesting… suggesting is simply removing that, just to say that, you may not be able to sell.
111902:43:06.105 --> 02:43:11.314
Speaker 28 (Community Hall): on any public street within the city, which is, I believe, the original intent of
this section.
112002:43:11.535 --> 02:43:13.445Speaker 28 (Community Hall): Oh, wait…
112102:43:14.900 --> 02:43:23.769
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): The, the… now we have only the first portion, which says it's unlawful to sell
on any public street. Correct.
112202:43:24.120 --> 02:43:26.749Speaker 7 (Community Hall): And we are not…
112302:43:28.050 --> 02:43:42.819
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So any private land abutting a public street, by crossing that out means any
public land. Any private land abutting public street, people still cannot sell it from their own private land. No,
I think what that means is…
112402:43:42.825 --> 02:43:46.585Speaker 28 (Community Hall): You may be able to, on your private land, because if you have a house.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Maybe it's.
112602:43:47.330 --> 02:43:53.319Speaker 28 (Community Hall): Correct. You have a private land, private house, you are going to be abutting
a public street. Oh.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So we are allowing people to sell. Correct.
112802:43:56.325 --> 02:44:00.834Speaker 28 (Community Hall): I mean, the example you gave about the lemonade stand, if you're gonna sell lemonade on your own property, you'd certainly love it.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): that.
113002:44:01.565 --> 02:44:10.505Speaker 7 (Community Hall): And then we are… since we can't measure traffic flow, so you decide to… let's not have that prohibition. Okay. Correct.
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Speaker 28 (Community Hall): Exactly. Thank you.
113202:44:11.440 --> 02:44:21.830Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Thank you. So this is not state law? No. Just an improvement, so, for ease of, enforcement.
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Speaker 28 (Community Hall): So, enforce… enforceability, and also a little bit of common sense as well. You should be able to sell lemonade stamps, for example, in your private land also, too. It's just a measurement of that traffic flow is very difficult, very subjective, so that's why.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): It's just, for me, this is a little more than…
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02:44:39.515 --> 02:44:44.554Speaker 7 (Community Hall): The minor refriging, because this is kind of substantive.
113602:44:45.165 --> 02:44:48.375Speaker 7 (Community Hall): change of… the cold.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So, yeah, anyway. Okay, thank you.
113802:44:54.970 --> 02:44:56.640Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Not seeing any…
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Not seeing any further Council hands raised. Madam City Clerk, do we have
any members of the public that would like to speak to this item?
114002:45:05.870 --> 02:45:12.759Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Mayor, I don't see any requests to speak in person, but I do see one hand
raised virtually, so we will welcome Sandra around.
114102:45:15.380 --> 02:45:20.059San Rao: Yes, good evening, Mayor Moore and Councilmember, speaking about myself only as a resident.
114202:45:20.200 --> 02:45:37.889San Rao: There is a section on page 8 that talks about restrictions in parks, and currently it has language
that talks about shall not roller skate, or shall not skate a rollerblade, such as in a manner such as to cause
damage to the parks. I'd like you to include biking in that.
114302:45:38.350 --> 02:45:43.150San Rao: Because what I notice, particularly in some of our parks where we've added the
114402:45:43.300 --> 02:45:45.920
San Rao: New equipment that looks like a fish.
114502:45:46.210 --> 02:45:49.690San Rao: We are seeing a number of people that are biking on the lawns.
114602:45:49.860 --> 02:45:53.359San Rao: And the Public Works Ground staff had actually confirmed
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02:45:53.510 --> 02:45:59.650San Rao: They're seeing that, because people are mountain biking up and down the lawns and the mounds that we have in our parks.
114802:45:59.840 --> 02:46:09.520San Rao: And so, if you might consider amending the language to not just talk about skating or rollerblading,
but also biking on the lawns, so as to not cause damage to the park, that would be great.
114902:46:09.620 --> 02:46:16.790San Rao: I also want to remind everyone that we do not have an RV ordinance, we have an oversized vehicle ordinance.
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San Rao: The head of code enforcement told me that we cannot enforce an oversized vehicle if it's not an
RV, which is completely incorrect.
115102:46:24.850 --> 02:46:32.179San Rao: as the 25 share of planning that led the discussion at planning, we were very careful not to use the
language, are we, anywhere.
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San Rao: And I look at the code, and it still says oversized vehicles, so I request
115302:46:36.770 --> 02:46:41.739San Rao: that you not use the word RV. In fact, the 311 tickets are all using the word RV.
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San Rao: And that is inaccurate. The intent of the code is oversized vehicles, which means trucks.
115502:46:47.070 --> 02:46:55.419San Rao: And so request you to make sure that we amend any accidental references to RVs, because trucks are oversized. Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Thank you, Sam. Mayor, that concludes the request to speak on this item.
115702:47:03.610 --> 02:47:06.209Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you. Councilmember Wong, you see your hands raised?
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R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: Yeah, thank you! I wanted to say this was a great job in terms of cleaning
up the code and cleaning up some of the items here. I thought it was well done, and I really appreciate a lot
of those amendments. I would second what the caller said, San Rao there, as to oversized versus RV. I think it'd be great to have that clarification in there. And then I would say that these are a lot of great cleanups. I think in the future, when we do these, it'd be nice to solicit
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R "Ray" Wang, Councilmember: from other council members what other cleanups, might be suggested,
make that more of a group effort, but in general, I think these are a lot of great cleanups here, so I applaud
everyone who worked on that.
116002:47:45.220 --> 02:47:47.589Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Thank you. Next, we have Vice Mayor Chao.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Yeah.
116202:47:52.340 --> 02:48:00.949Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So, according to the definition of stationary mobile equipment, so that would mean someone can just
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Get a food truck, put on their front lawn, and start selling on their private
property.
116402:48:10.980 --> 02:48:20.729Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Is that what we are allowing? I mean, lemonade State is one thing, but stationary mobile equipment…
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02:48:23.780 --> 02:48:30.510Speaker 7 (Community Hall): is… could be… it could create traffic. It does. So now I'm concerned.
116602:48:31.045 --> 02:48:45.425Speaker 28 (Community Hall): Sure, I think our intent, Benfu, sorry, Director of Community Development, so the intent of us, modifying that section… I'm sorry, adding the stationary mobile equipment, because the
code references the stationary mobile equipment.
116702:48:45.755 --> 02:49:01.335Speaker 28 (Community Hall): Throughout, but there's no definition. Yeah. So, for that section, we're simply just adding a definition, to that. But the mobile vending, ordinance, I believe, has… has requirements set for, vending mechanisms.
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Speaker 28 (Community Hall): So, but if Council's concerned about removing that language, and potentially.
116902:49:06.185 --> 02:49:12.055Speaker 28 (Community Hall): Could have some greater impact, you know, that's fine if you don't want to make that second change.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So, I just want to understand, so with this change that's proposed.
117102:49:22.740 --> 02:49:28.320Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Let me share this again. So this is from the redlined document.
117202:49:29.220 --> 02:49:37.670
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): The same thing, so with the removal of this red crossed outline. Does that
mean someone can…
117302:49:38.900 --> 02:49:41.659Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Have a food truck on their front yard.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): And then sell…
117502:49:45.760 --> 02:49:55.510Speaker 28 (Community Hall): No, it doesn't. So it doesn't change our existing permitting process for, for vending, mobile vending machines. What this, what this is saying is that,
117602:49:56.000 --> 02:50:04.899Speaker 28 (Community Hall): Previously, when you are going to have sales on your own property, it's prohibited when there is a traffic flow issue.
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Speaker 28 (Community Hall): And that creates an enforcement issue for us to measure that. So what we're simply saying is to simply remove that, because there's no way for us to actually measure what traffic flow might be affected means.
117802:50:19.160 --> 02:50:28.310Speaker 7 (Community Hall): I know, but then with this removal, that means… I mean, if you just remove
the cross out, where in the traffic flow might affect
117902:50:29.000 --> 02:50:30.480Speaker 7 (Community Hall): That's…
118002:50:31.120 --> 02:50:43.160Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Then… then that removed the confusing language. But then, selling from
private land abiding a public street is still prohibited.
118102:50:43.450 --> 02:50:48.899Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Since you have crossed out On any private street, about him.
118202:50:49.260 --> 02:50:50.660Speaker 7 (Community Hall): public street.
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02:50:50.800 --> 02:50:55.749Speaker 7 (Community Hall): You have now… Remove the prohibition to sell.
118402:50:55.880 --> 02:50:58.040Speaker 7 (Community Hall): On any private street.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Abouting public… on private land, about in public street. So you are not just removing this confu… this part that's harder to enforce.
118602:51:07.390 --> 02:51:11.950Speaker 7 (Community Hall): You'll have… changed, what's allowed or not allowed?
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So I'm… Sure, I don't need to understand the scope.
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Speaker 28 (Community Hall): I don't believe we're changing what's being allowed or not allowed. Go ahead,
sorry, Mayor, I didn't mean to cut you off.
118902:51:23.790 --> 02:51:41.570Speaker 1 (Community Hall): The… the business license, process would still need to be followed… Correct. …
for somebody to be selling on their own property. They would still need to do that. I think, if anything, this…
this puts this more into the category of.
119002:51:41.570 --> 02:51:51.820Speaker 1 (Community Hall): A business license, issue, which, if the city allows them to do that, you know, depending on how they're zoned, then,
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): They're… they are allowed to have a home business.
119202:51:55.725 --> 02:52:01.295Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So, are they required to apply for a permit for that food truck?
119302:52:01.425 --> 02:52:03.244
Speaker 7 (Community Hall): On their private land.
119402:52:03.250 --> 02:52:15.959Speaker 28 (Community Hall): Yeah, so we have a mobile vending ordinance. I have to look it up and see what the exact requirement is for that, but that's not being changed. We also have a handbuild ordinance as well, so if you want to be able to pass out flyers, you have to get a permit for that, so none of that is being changed.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): It's likely they need a permit for that… Correct. …food truck, and get a
business license. Correct.
119602:52:23.310 --> 02:52:34.099Speaker 1 (Community Hall): If they take it off their property and onto the sidewalk, and they're a sidewalk vending facility, that was something we worked on in 2021.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): So if… if that creates any traffic issue, how will the city address that? If it's so popular, that would be…
119802:52:46.120 --> 02:52:58.599Speaker 28 (Community Hall): That hasn't been the case. I don't think we've ever had a case where, you
know, a lemonade stand is creating a traffic issue in a corner. Okay. So that hasn't happened. Not to say it
won't happen, but…
119902:52:59.180 --> 02:53:12.220Speaker 7 (Community Hall): But this does change what's allowed or not allowed. This does not just remove,
traffic flow, determination. This actually allowed
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Remove this previous prohibition, right?
120102:53:19.120 --> 02:53:23.989Speaker 28 (Community Hall): No, it does not change any of the requirements or anything. All I was saying is that…
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Speaker 21 (Community Hall): In yours…
120302:53:24.755 --> 02:53:28.484Speaker 7 (Community Hall): report remove language prohibiting the sale.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): from private property to property. That's exactly what
120502:53:32.905 --> 02:53:45.154Speaker 7 (Community Hall): said in the… in the… in the staff report. Remove language prohibiting the sale on private property. So you have removed that
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): previous prohibition.
120702:53:48.310 --> 02:53:54.459Speaker 9 (Community Hall): Vice Mayor, I think that section is actually modified by the where traffic flow may be affected.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Yeah, but with this removal, it means regardless of traffic flow,
120902:54:13.750 --> 02:54:18.790Speaker 7 (Community Hall): The prohibition for… on private… selling on private pilot property will be allowed.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Previously, it's not allowed when the traffic might be… it might affect traffic
flow.
121102:54:27.730 --> 02:54:31.619Speaker 9 (Community Hall): And so now… Setting aside the traffic flow issue?
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Speaker 9 (Community Hall): It's… it would be allowed, I think.
121302:54:36.350 --> 02:54:41.709Speaker 7 (Community Hall): Yeah, I just mean I did not expect a minor revision.
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Speaker 7 (Community Hall): will make.
121502:54:44.580 --> 02:54:46.090Speaker 7 (Community Hall): This kind of change.
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Speaker 8 (Community Hall): If I might ask a quick… Point in clarification, Director Fu, you had said that, in
essence, this additional language, this conditional language with regard to interfering with traffic flow is essentially unenforceable already.
121702:55:01.015 --> 02:55:08.044Speaker 8 (Community Hall): Correct. Okay, so then there really isn't a change, because we don't have a means for enforcing that issue. Correct. Okay.
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02:55:08.295 --> 02:55:12.145Speaker 8 (Community Hall): So I think that's why this qualifies as a minor edit.
121902:55:15.080 --> 02:55:21.000Speaker 1 (Community Hall): For purposes of deliberation, do we have a motion on item 20?
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Speaker 8 (Community Hall): I will move the staff recommended action.
122102:55:26.570 --> 02:55:27.710Speaker 8 (Community Hall): I'll send them to…
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Second to Councilmember Wong.
122302:55:31.280 --> 02:55:35.970Speaker 1 (Community Hall): I still see a hand raised from Vice Mayor Chao. No, that's fine.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Seeing no further hands raised, Madam City Clerk, will you please conduct the
roll call vote?
122502:55:42.520 --> 02:55:43.860Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Councilmember Ferran?
122602:55:44.440 --> 02:55:46.789Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Aye. Councilmember Mohan? Aye.
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Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Councilmember Wong?
122802:55:50.200 --> 02:55:55.829Speaker 2 (Community Hall): Vice Mayor Chao? Aye. Mayor Moore? Aye. The motion carries unanimously. Okay.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): So, item 21 was postponed, and we're on to… we had no items pulled from the
consent calendar, and at the end of this report, we have the manager's report that you may look at.
123002:56:11.150 --> 02:56:33.079Speaker 1 (Community Hall): the council member reports and the future agenda item report, and just to note that any council member wishing to put something on the TBD list, which gets reviewed, quarterly, simply email another Councilmember and the city manager to get that item onto the TBD list.
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02:56:33.660 --> 02:56:48.859Speaker 1 (Community Hall): So, this is a different procedure from the Commission's due to the general time constraints at our meetings. However, we've been very efficient with our time. Good job, everyone. With that, this May 5th, 2026, Cinco de Mayo meeting is adjourned.
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Speaker 1 (Community Hall): Excellent.