HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes - 12-18-1974CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California 95014
Telephone: 252-4505
MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSI
HELD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL
CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
Chairman O`Keefe called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. with the!
Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Comm. present: Cooper (748), Gatto, Woodward, Chairman OKeefe
Comm. absent: Adams
Staff present: Director of Planning and Development Sisk
Assistant Director of Planning Cowan
Associate Planner Laurin
ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIPM•IAN
This was continued until such time as all members of the Commissi
are present.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the Adjourned Regular Meeting of November 13, 1974.
Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Woodward to approve the
Minutes of November 13, 1974, as submitted.
Motion carried, 3-0-1, Abstain: Cooper
POSTPONEMENTS: None
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None
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December 18, l97-'
Nov. 13th
Minutes approvad
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MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 18, 1974 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. City of Cupertino: Public Hearing to consider 1973
Comprehensive General Plan.
a. Hillsides
The Planning Director stated that in addition to revision of the slope/
density formula, the staff has submitted a revised policy statement
document.
The Associate Planner reviewed the slope/density formula, calling
attention to the differences in this latest revision, dated December
13, 1974.
Comm. Gatto stated that this revision reflects pretty much what the
Commission was asking for.
Chairman O'Keefe asked for comments from the audience.
Mr. William Herman, 101 Second Street, Los Altos, said he is very
considering individual properties. He believes it is a big mistake to
consider the Kester property as hillside property. He is also concerned
ab€hfIbodlain, He said :7 acre .-in Mood- p ain costs -h- m uni s .- -
His plan calls for tennis courts on this portion of the property, which
would not matter whether or not it floods. Lastly, he said he would like
the City of Cupertino to come to an early decision on this; it is costing
him $250 per day while he waits for the decision.
Discussion followed. Mr. Herman answered the Commission that this
property has an 11% slope. He could not understand why he should lose
12 - 14% of his density because of 1% slope over the 10% maximum.
Comm. Gatto noted there is a general transition reflected by rounding
of the curve on the graph.
Comm. Woodward said the City has to treat all the properties equitably.
If they were treated individually we would end up in court.
Comm. Cooper said the Planning Commission has been looking at different
curves to try to determine what would be the most equitable curve.
The Associate Planner presented some visual aids, illustrating existing
and anticipated population.
The Planning Director said Mr. Don Goodrich, the Traffic Consultant, is
going to review all this material. It was agreed that detailed traffic
information is needed.
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Comm. Gatto agreed with the staff that the Planning Commission
could begin reviewing applications for the hillsides at this
point. The main question of overall density of the hills is prett-
much resolved. The other problems will be addressed in the EIR's.1
Comm. Woodward agreed that we are far enough along now that we
could proceed with applications, keeping in mind the guidelines
the Planning Commission has set.
Mr. Herman asked, under the present formula being considered, what
number of units we are talking about for the Kester property.
The Associate Planner said the map he submitted, if the measure-
ments are correct and if the Planning Commission and City Council
should adopt this formula, indicated the property will yield 64
dwelling units, less than the original number because of the flood
plain.
Mr. John Finemore, 22374 Riverside Drive, Cupertino, said he would
like to see less density, particularly in these areas adjacent to
the foothills. He would like to achieve a green backdrop to the
City. There is also the point of view of the people living in the
hills themselves and looking down, seeing the dense housing at
4.4 units per acre coming up against these hills. He believes the
character of the neighborhood should be considered. This develop-
ment represents intrusion into the neighborhood.
Mr. Finemore said he also wanted to talk about innundation. South
of Stevens Creek Blvd., there will be high velocity creek contact
with any damage from the dam. He feels this slope/density formula
gives a very high density in the lower foothills. He urged the
Planning Commission to reduce it somewhat - between 2.5 to 3 units
per acre rather than 4.4. This would serve then as a transition
area between the upper foothills and the valley floor.
Mr. Louis Stocklmeir, Stevens Creek Blvd., Cupertino, noted that
since 1848, when Capt. Stevens led his party here, there has been
no flood nor any such consequences as has been determined here.
He stressed out difficulty will lie in the possible failure of
Stevens Creek dam, caused by an 8.3 or greater quake. He feels
this is of a more grave consequence to us. than the 100 -year flood.
He said the earthquake along the San Adreas fault is 20 years
overdue.
There followed a discussion- of what action the Planning Commission
might take at this time. It was felt that a consensus vote could
be taken, keeping in mind that any final decision will be impacted
by the forthcoming traffic report.
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MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 18, 1974 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Woodward that the Planning
Commission would like -to go on record as accepting the composite
S=5 to S=65, Plate 1.0, dated 26 November 1974 and revised 11 December
1974, to be used as a working guide for final analysis of the hillsides.
Such slope guide shall be considered fixed unless further evidence
indicates to the contrary.
Comm. Cooper said she is still concerned about certain features of the
land which would not be buildable and which in her mind should be
excluded from the total computable formula. However, she would be
willing to forego that discussion and discuss mainly the slope/density
formula and go under the assumption there will be other ai.scussion and
resolution of "smooshing".
AYES: Comm. Cooper, Gatto, Woodward, Chairman -O'Keefe
NOES: None
ABSENT: Comm. Adams
Motion carried, 4-0
Recess was called at 9:00 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 9:15 p.m.
Hillsides cont`.Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Chairman O'Keefe to continue the
to 1/16/'15 Idiscusslons of the hillsides co Thursday, January i6, 1975,_A -L7 30 p.m.
Mi t , '4-0 - --
Comm. Woodward suggested each Commissioner bring in a list of what they
feel should be considered unbuildable land.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
2. Stevens Creek Flood Plain Land Use Element Revision — Referred
by City Council to Planning Commission for report.
The Assistant Planning Director reviewed the December 12, 1974 staff
report. The Council has determined that if full credit was given for
the natural flood plain it would be inconsistent with the policy
statement. They decided credit would be given for flood plain area in
the amount of one unit per acre as opposed to 0 — 4.4.
Mr. Stocklmeir has requested some statement that he be permitted to keep
his property within the flood plain in agricultural use. It was understood
that this was given.
MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 18, 1974 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Comm. Gatto suggested the term "density transfer" not be used.
The size of the property is not changing. He thinks it is a
mistake to automatically set density without first considering thf
character of the land. The original approach of 0 — 4.4 is much
more subjective. He felt the decisions should be based on the
merits of the proposal.
Comm. Cooper felt there should be some guidelines for the flood
plain.
Attorney Sam Anderson, representing Mr. Stocklmeir, wanted to rai:
a few points. In the last paragraph on page 1 of the Report, he
believes the City and not the Water District should make the
decision. There should be a statement here as to who is to set
the boundaries here. He also wanted to discuss the land that is
residential in nature. With•a range of 0 - 4.4, the money could
be raised for financing.
The Planning Director said, from a land use standpoint, it has the
same residential designation as the other properties outside the
flood plain, in referring to Mr. Stocklmeir's property.
Mr. Stocklmeir said his property that has been included in the
flood plain has been in orchard for 95 years. He felt this shoulc
be recreational/agricultural.
Mr. Stocklmeir next brought up the question of trails. He is ver}
unhappy with the situation of trails along Stevens Creek. He
emphasized that we are dealing with an historical. area. His home
was built in 1904. It is an archeological site. It also happens
that nearby is the site that was the first designated post office
building in 1888.. There was also the matter that that particular
location had a soil quarry that provided the fill for Vasona.
It also happens that in 1849, Mr. Whisman settled in Mountain Vieu
and started the first stage coach line in Santa Clara. Stevens
Creek Blvd. was not cut through from Byrne to Foothill Blvd. until
relatively recently. He would like to get together with the staff
in regard to preservation of certain areas as well as discuss
the environment. When you have trails and access points coming
into the creek the animals leave. He asked that some consideratic
be given to animals and creek life.
Attorney Lester G. Sachs, 675 North First Street, San Jose,
representing Blackberry Farms, Mr. Siegfried and Eric Nelson, saic
Blackberry Farms is about 100 years old and is locally owned.
They employ about 40 people on weekends in the summer season.
They would like to continue being a good neighbor to the City of
Cupertino. The Nelsons are on individual residences. Exhibit D
puts their two residences inside the flood plain. It was his con-
tention that Blackberry Farms is being treated differently from
other properties in the area and not consistently with similar
situations.
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Blackberry Farms would like to have their 6 acres treated as other
properties in the area are being treated. They do not object to the
agricultural, designation for the Stocklmeir property.
Mrs. Lucien Hertert, San Juan Road, said she would, like to see an EIR
prepared on this property. This is the most environmentally fragile
area we have.
Norma Bradlyn, 22344 Riverside Drive, Cupertino, said Comm. Gatto is
going against previous policy. She is afraid we are going to end up
with high density in the hillsides. She is interested in retention
of the historical things in Cupertino.
Ann Anger, Monta Vista, wants to make sure the hillsides are kept
low density.
IIt was noted there is a 40 —day limitation on the report back to the
City Council.
Comm. Cooper said it would be a sin to overlook these things of
historical value; it is worth the pursuit. She proposed the flood — -
Comm..Ga.tto said the Planning Commission recommendation to the City
Council - wad for the natura floodplain If this is to be expanded
to include trail systems it should be included in the report,
lie does not believe an__EIR is needed- _for a natural flood, plain
but when we start talking about trails systems, then one should be
considered.
After discussion, item 33 (c) on page 3 was reworded.
Comm. Woodward agreed with Mr. Sachs that the land outside the flood
plain should be treated the same. He believes the 1.0 units per acre
needs further study. He would like to consider 0 — 7.6 on the
buildable. land. He would like to consider it mandatory that the
Stocklmeir property be planned development.
omm. Gatto said that in considering density, the owner's entire
roperty must be considered.
MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 18, 1974 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Moved by Comm. Cooper, seconded by Comm. Woodward that the
Planning Commission recommends acceptance of the Stevens Creek
Flood Plain, amended as described in Exhibit B-1, dated December
11, 1974, with the following additions: The amendments as stated
by the Planning Director in regard to the last paragraph of page lj
the amendments as stated by the Planning Director for page 3 - C
and the addition of #5 on page 3 as stated by the Assistant Plannir
Director earlier - with the additional stipulation on page 3,
item 3 - B that the maximum range be six units per acre on
land which lies outside flood plain area when that land
is developed in conjunction with the land that falls
within the flood plain of a piece of property under one ownership;
All properties listed here to be designated recreational/acri-
cultural/residential.
AYES: Comm. Cooper, Gatto, Woodward
NOES: Chairman O`Keefe
ABSENT: Comm. Adams
Motion carried, 3-1
NEW BUSINESS -- None
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW COMMITTEE: Recommendation for Negative
Declaration
3. Application 72 -EA -74
Applicant May Investment Company
Location Northerly of St. Joseph School Bldgs.
Discretionary Action
Requested:Application has not been filed yet.
Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Cooper to direct the
Planning Director to file a negative declaration on 72 -EA -74.
AYES: Comm. Cooper, Gatto, Woodward
NOES: None
ABSTAINED: Chairman O`Keefe
ABSENT: Comm. Adams
4. Application
Applicant
Project Name
Location
Discretionary Action
Requested:
Motion carried, 3-0-1
75 -EA -74
City of Cupertino
Abandonment of portion of Torre Avenue
South of Homestead, north of Route 280
Abandonment of a portion of Torre Avenue
dedicated by adjacent subdivision but nc
longer needed due to Torre Avenue plan -
line abandonment.
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Recommendation
to City Council
72 -EA -74
neg. decl.
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Moved by Comm. Cooper, seconded by Chairman O'Keefe to ask the
Planning Director to file a negat:i.ve declaration on 75 -EA --74.
AYES: Comm. Cooper, Gatto, Woodward, Chairman O'Keefe
NOES: None
ABSENT: Comm. Adams
Motion carried, 4-0
5. Application 76 -EA -74
Applicant City of Cupertino
Project Name Abandonment of portion of Blaney Avenue
Location South of Homestead, north of Route 280
Discretionary Action
Requested: Abandonment of the old Blaney Avenue
alignment in front of P.G. & E. adjacen
to Rt. 280 no longer needed since align
ment was shifted when the overpass was
constructed over Freeway 280.
75 -EA -74
neg. decl.
move y omm, a o, sewn e yo; e e
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1nnxng k�trecoz- b�
T = AYES : -ti - m-. Gazspi r, t. -to , Woodard, Chairman O- -Keefer
NOES: None
ABSENT: Comm. Adams
Motion carried, 4-0
REPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
6. Election to be put on next agenda.
REPORT OF PLANNING DIRECTOR
• 7. The Director distributed HUD booklets.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Woodward to adjourn this
meeting at 11:45 p.m.
Motion carried, 4-0
ATTEST: APPROVED:
/s/ Win. E. Ryder. ___. /s/ Daniel P. O'Keefe
City Clerk Chairman