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Home My WebLink AboutPC Minutes - 05-23-1974CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA 1.0300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California 9.5014 Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGUI.,AR MEETING OF THE PLANNING CO^T•1ISSIC HELD ON MAY 23, 19/4, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG Vice•�Chairr,an Gatto called the meeting to order at 8:07 P.M. with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL: Comm, present: Cooper, Vice --Chairman Gatto, Woodward, Chairman O'Keefe (8:20 PM) Comm. absent: Adams Staff present: Director of Planning & Development Sisk Associate Planner Laurin The Planning Director handed out copies of the Vallco Park Traffic Study to the Planning Commissioners. The Planning Director stated he has talked with a number of users of the lower_ foothills and a number of them were present at this meeting. He requested input from them at the end of the meeting. The Associate Planner reviewed the method used for figuring density. He said all figures are divided by road access. He said the traffic lead from some 700 units along Montebello Road probably can't be handled by the present Stevens Canyon Road. It could still be a two-lane road, but improved. Maps showing City boundaries and the Urban Service Area were reviewed. The maps were a direct translation of the Slope-Densityi Formula. i As an example, a 1000 -acre parcel could be developed by clustering 100 units in one concentrated area, resulting in less road area. This approach increased the possibility of development of the hill area. PC -151 Page 1 t pC_151 MINUTES OF THE MAY 23, 1974 ADJOURNED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 2 The Associate Planner confirmed that two or more property owners can get together and cluster their property. The idea is to create as little impact on an area as possible. For instance, grading for roads is more of an impact than grading a pad for a house. The statement was made that we will probably adopt the County's plans for the road pattern. Hiking trails might be a good idea under the transmission lines. It was noted that 80% of the trail system does exist in the form of fire trails, etc. A lady in the audience who did not identify herself said she is a small land owner in Regnart Canyon. She said this terrain does not lend itself to development of 1 home per five acres. It should be more like five or ten acres. In addition to the four maps approved by the Hillside Subcommittee, the Associate Planner reviewed the maps on the bulletin board, one showing types of vegetation and the other showing earthquake faults and levels of stability of the land. There followed a considerable discussion on - earthquakes. There was a discussion of whether or not the. City of Cupertino should I adopt:. the Caurity's Slope/Density Form.ula. Comm. Catt.o favored the curvilinear graph raver a stepped Fora ..a. Be said Lhorc should_ be some sort of transition between flat and hill areas. For _xa!npla , the 'even Springs Ranch has a flat area that is best for development. Comm. Gatto felt there should bea lower density range in the hillside than in the valley. He cited many secondary factors to be considered as well as the slope/density formula. Comm. Cooper and Woodward agreed with Comm. Gatto that the. curvilinear graph is otter than the slope/density formula, although sine curves are not necessarily the entire answer. Comm. Cooper said the type of environment we would like to retain should he taken into consideration. IMr. Harold Ashton, Kaiser Cement representative, asked the Planning Commission to give serious consideration to the fact that all properties are not alike, nor should they be considered alike. A portion of Kaiser iproperty thit is in the Urban Service Area (an abandoned quarry) is being iconsidered for development. It was felt that a quarry area, without vegetation, might be allowed a higher density than a wooded area. Mrs. Lucien Hertert, San Juan Road, thought it might by a good idea to convey this information to the Planning Policy Committee. 1., MINUTES OF THE MA 23, 1974 ADJOURNED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING PC -151 Page 3 The Associate Planner raised the question of whether a policy for clustering large acreages should be introduced; and if so, what approach should be used. Comm. Cooper stated that clustering should not be increasing density. The Associate Planner said it could be cheaper to develop this way. Comm. Cooper believes the County's bonus offer is much Lao dense. She also believes clustering is the best way to go in the hills, but a clustering bonus should not be allowed to negate the environment. Comm. Gatto said the economic bonuses are achieved with clustering. Chairman O'Keefe said he believes the advantage of clustering is with the builder in terms of uniqueness. Ann Anger, Monta Vista., does not want to see another development on the hillsides like De Anza Oaks. Those homes have 4 and 5 bedrooms, so it i..s assumed there are children. She said people there are having problems finding space to park their. cars. Comm. Gatto pointed out that five 5 --bedroom units would have more impact than five 2 --bedroom units. incentive zoning was brought up by an architect visiting this meeting. He said Fremont has this type of zoning. He believes the private sector will work this out. Chairman O'Keefe stated that the Planning Commission is trying to give the developers guidelines. Comm. Woodward said the use permit is one type of bonus. Another point raised by the Associate Planner was whether there should be a graduated scoring. Comm. Cooper said general terrain should be taken into considera- tion as well as slope/denisty. Comm. Woodward would like to prohibit residences in the earthquake area. After a geological report is prepared, it may be found that Cupertino should not put roads or services in that area. The Planning Director brought up the question of once a geological unstable area has been identified, what should the developer be told? Comm. Cooper asked what kinds of incentives the City should offer. Reasons should be given for the developer t.o spend more money to put parking underground. Density means money. A I'C l'ii. 111 UTES OF flit'. ?L'', 23, 1176 ADJOURNED PLA"\N.i.NG CCiWSSl:O i I.1kETi.NC page e' The <LatemenL was ide LhaL if we don .t ,rant to son buildings on t:he hillsides, the devoio'nr should be given a bonus if he: accornpii_shes Lhis. Come. Gallo ceinrsented that we have to look at the Lot al picture. up there as well as each development.. halo followed a discussion of the Rift Zone. CoGliil. UcodP:; :Ld "a i in favou of the trict inte,_pro Lation of the Goner a Plan in regard to the ii:_L Zone. One unit j et; ton rcrK. Sc en..c: hiHighways iore discussed. next. The .;Latel'"iL nt: .:as glade that a scenic highway is n0i: natessnn i.lv compatible .)it11 ;t 000_ Lha.t hiss` carry se 1100 i- i)us2cs Co inn L ors (>f ,The mOre ec.ople t.hai: must use the roach, the I :gEr it uusL be. i)Ti: . Catto Su ,.,cat ad Jn.rulatinT Li;(7 o\ nral.j. goals and no1.1Cses ever tic 1. ,.. :C_ . ['.7: <; 1. . iJ:., `.> A _, <_'1 omen n force: il� _ ltnS'c .11;L11_ i;l'';:.rs ..Q r i(.. t . i_i: eyes ted is ,'.riO Lair . , the na. ii l � - _ It .!i It i f .1 . - - La l:_ .iS h:,ve::) by Coa!:1. Get to a con.ded by: Comm. Cooper to convinut !:itis mc'.c_i:1. _o Juno 112, 1.97 , an 7 :30 P.M. Motion carried, 4--0 APPROVED. /s/ Daniel P. O'Keefe Chairman ATTEST: City Clerk