HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes - 09-22-1977CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre- Ave., Cupertino, Calif. 95014
Telephone: 252-4505
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COM14ITTEE
HELD SEPTE 2BER 22, 1977 IN THE LIBRARY CONFERENCE ROOM,
CITY HALL, 10300 TORRE AVENUE
CUPERTI O, CALIFORNIA
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
The meeting was called to order at 7:08 p.m. by Chairperson Claudy
with the Salute to the Flag.
NOTICE: There will be no new hearings initiated after 11 p.m. Any
hearings in progress at that time will be continued. The Committee will
adjourn at midnight.
ROLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Ripplinger, Irvine, Bond (7:13) ,
Sallan (8:06) , Chairperson Claudy
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Mark Caughey, Senior Planning Technician
INFORI�1AL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS:
24-U-77 Brenda Williams: Construction of an 11 -unit single-family
subdivision located at 10066 South Blaney Ave..
After reviewing drawings of the proposed subdivision, Committee members
expressed concern about the high density in a small area. Member Irvine
stated he felt evacuation in case of fire would be difficult because of
the fenced -in yards and close proximity of homes. Chairperson Claudy
suggested one unit be dropped. Member Irvine noted that the 15yards
seem to be too small and he thought the requirement is 20'. Member
Ripplinger asked what is presently on the East side of the planned
development and was answered by Mr. Caughey that there are single
family dwellings there.
Consensus: Committee members agreed that the density of homes is too
high and that one unit should be eliminated.
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25-U-77 Hewlett-Packard: Construction of three 2 -story light industrial
buildings located at the southeast corner of the
intersection of Homestead and Wolfe Roads.
Consensus: Committee Members had no concerns with the proposal.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of Regular Meeting of September 8, 1977 were
not available at this time.
POSTPONEiEN'TS: There were none.
WRITTEN CO NNICATIONS: Discussion of written communications was postponed.
ORAL COMMLNICATIONS: There were none.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. App11 t.6 t1 oll HC -51,437.L.1 - Jte VC StVI�'L well dlld T..... " t11Loti�. (Sp J. J. 111
Wheels Skatepark) requesting modification of site, grading and land-
scaping for a skateboard park located adjacent to and westerly of
Stalling Road.
Modifications to the park include moving the location of and expanding
the slalom area to the west side of the park, increasing the freestyle
area, and moving the bicycle area to the east side of the pro shop near
the snack bar. Employees of the park in the pro shop, snack bar and
the safety marshal who will be stationed nearby will be able to see
the bike parking area.
Responding to a question from Member Ripplinger about spectator areas,
Mr. Stockwell said that walkways (which will be protected from flying
boards, etc by guard nets), and grassy areas will be provided from which
people may watch the skateboarders. Mr. Stockwell also discussed the
slant of the run walls and the configuration of the bowls and slowdown
areas.
Member Bond moved and Member Irvine seconded that public hearing be closed,
since there were no comments from the audience.
Motion carried 4-0
Member Sallan not present at this time.
Approval Member Bond moved that Application HC -51,437.1 be recommended for approval
of HC -51, subject to the following:
437.1
1. All conditions of approval contained in Architectural and Site Approval
Committee -Resolution No. 751 shall remain in full force and effect as
regards the subject development.
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2. The recommendation of approval is based upon Exhibits A 1st Re vision
and C 1st Revision except as may be amended :y conditions of approval
contained in Architectural and Sits Approval Committee Resolution No.
751.
Member Irvine seconded the motion.
Motion carried 4-0
Member Sallan not present at this time.
2. Application HC -51,421.2 - Pacific Valley Bank requesting approval of
a sign program for Phase One of a financial office complex located at
the northeasterly quadrant of North De Anza Boulevard and Stevens
Creek Boulevard.
Phillip R. Boyce and John Fruit of 1245 So. Winchester, San Jose, 95128
were present as applicants. Applicant was asked about a legal problem
with the neighboring church regarding use of the driveway. Applicant
said there is no problem with the driveway but that a parking problem
has not been resolved.
Slides were shown of the site. Staff suggested that the directional signs
not be illuminated since the bank will probably not be open in the evening.
The applicant objected to this, stating that there are no street signs in
the area and that the patio bank area will be open 7:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
It is often dark before 3 p.m. in the winter. There will be six signs on
the site. Mr. Caughey cited section 7.07.3 of the sign ordinance which say;
that illuminated signs must be shut off at 11 p.m. or 2 hours after close
of business, whichever is latest. i
The principal concern is the height of the main sign, which is proposed
at 20 ft above the sidewalk. This is out of line with other signs in
the area, the tallest of which is 14 ft.at Any Mountain, Ltd. Staff
suggests that the sign be lowered to sit directly on the top of the 3'
mound, which should lower the sign to 16 ft. Applicant is agreeable to this
suggestion.
Regarding the proposed tenant panel,staff suggests that the words "Motor
Bank" be eliminated. Applicant said that the words should be "Patio Bank"_
The applicant said he feels that inclusion of _ these words on the sign
is important. Staff also suggests that the word "Open"be eliminated in
favor of the street address. Applicant thinks that the "Open" sign
eliminates confusion on the part of the customer since the patio bank area
has different hours than the inside bank area. Staff indicated they did
not have any problem with the word "Open" per se, but with the busy effect
of additional words. Member Bond commented that it would be evident that
when the patio bank is open that the bank is open. He objected to the
busyness of the sign. Applican_.,said that one of the lines from the tenant
panel could be eliminated in order to keep the "Open" sign.
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The street numbers will be on the side of the building, and will be
illuminated by building lights only. Member Bond pointed out that
the City is trying to get street numbers put on signs for identification.
Applicant said that a time and temperature display will be included in
the sign for a public service. He said that burned out bulbs are. often
a problem and is in fauor of trying a newly developed time and temperature
display that utilizes steadily -lighted neon bulbs behind a baffle. The
new display would save 90% of the power and does not glare at night.
Member Sallan expressed concern that it would be a moving sign. Applicant
said that the numbers on the display would come on quickly, but slightly
after one another. All numbers would go off at the same time. The delay
in lighting each number is so slight that users of the display have stated
that they didn't notice it.
There was a lengthy discussion regarding the overall sign size. The
sign ordinance states that the sign area must be no larger than 75 sq. ft.
The sign is capped or roofed by a small roof which ties in with the
architecture of the building. The sign itself is 68 sq. ft. However,
if the roof is included in the sign size, the sign is over 120 sq. ft.
Applicant said that if the roof is considered part of the sign, he would
rather take it off than to reduce the overall sign size. The reason
for this is that all Pacific Valley Bank signs are of the same letter
size. Letters are now only 2' high, and making them smaller would drastically
reduce visability.
A poll of the Committee Members was taken, with results as follows:
Member Irvine said that he does not think that sign area can be reduced
since the letters are already 2' high . He does not personally care for
the roof, but would vote for approval of the sign as is.
Member Sallan was not comfortable with the interpretation of Staff that
the roof structure is not part of the sign. She would like to have an
interpretation from the City Attorney. The ordinance says that the sign
is the entire area within a single perimeter which encloses the extreme
limits o.f the message together with any frame or material of any nature
with the exception of a support or base. The question is whether or not
the roof structure is considered a support, base, background, or part of
the sign. She stated she feels that without an interpretation she would abstain.
At this point, Staff commented that if the strict interpretation is taken
to mean that it is part of the sign, this would discourage creative signing
and is not the intent of the ordinance.
Member Bond said that he would support approval of the sign from the view
that the roof is not part of the sign.
Member Ripplinger noted that the roof does tie in with the architecture
and that copy is within limits; however, he felt this may be rationalizing
because the Committee likes the sign and that an interpretation from the
City Attorney should be obtained.
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Discussion then turned to the roof -cap portion of the ground sign and
whether it should be counted as advertising. area.
Chairman Claudy stated he feels that the function of the Committee is to
bring good design to the City. He thinks this sign is good and would
consider the roof as part of the background. He asked for public input.
Mel Brawn, a member of the audience commented that it seems clear that
this structure is outside the sign area and it was his opinion that it
should be approved.
Warren Gilbert, another member of the audience, stated that the elements
around the sign are in proportion with and tie in with other elements
of the property. He thinks it is well within the sphere of influence
of the Committee to make their own interpretation of the sign ordinance.
Member Sallan proposed that an amendment to the sign ordinance be made
to exclude roof structures from sign area specifically. Chairman Claudy
noted that the Committee would not have to approve a roof structure, but
if it was esthetically pleasing, there would be no problem.
Member Sallan said that she would still like an interpretation from the
City Attorney. Mr. Caughey of Staff said that the Committee has the power
of interpretation. Chairperson Claudy stated that the Committee should
make an interpretation and ask the City Attorney if there is any disagree—
ment.
Discussion turned to the second ground sign proposed for Stevens Creek
Boulevard. The proposed area is 9 sq. ft., which is considered large for
a directional sign; however, a visibility problem exists for west bound:
drivers along Stevens Creek Boulevard.
Member Irvine said that generally a second free-standing sign is not
allowed. Chairperson Claudy answered that since the bank fronts on two
major streets, the second sign could be allowed; also, the second sign
is directional in nature. He stated that the sign would be difficult to
see from the street.
Member Ripplinger echoed this concern, stating that he doesn't think it
will be visible until a driver is almost past it.
Member Bond added that he thinks 9 sq. ft. is too large for a directional
sign.
There was a discrepancy noted in the dimensions of Exhibits F-2, F-3, F-4.
Applicant said that the two sizes represent the inside and outside dimensic
and that the discrepancy will be corrected.
Since there was no further discussion from the audience, Member Bond
moved and Member Sallan seconded that public hearing be closed.
Motion carried 5-0
Member Irvine expressed concern that if a second sign is allowed, it would
set a precedent in which other applicants' second signs would have to be
approved. Chairman Claudy said that it should be allowed because it is on
two major streets.
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Member Bond moved that Application HC -51,421.2 be recommended for approval
subject to ASAC Standard Conditions 1-8 and conditions 9-14 as follows:
9. That the recommendation of approval is based on Exhibits F 1st Revision, F-1,
F-2, F-3, F-4 as corrected and F-5 as corrected.
10. That the precise location of ground sign depicted on Exhibit F shall be
subject to satisfaction of the Director of Public Works at the building
permit level.
11. Exhibit F of this application shall be modified to F 1st Revision as
follows:
a. Overall height shall be reduced to a maximum of 16 ft. above
adjoining sidewalk surface grade level.
b. The proposed "`Motor Bank" panel shall be eliminated.
c. The proposed neon "Open" sign shall be as inserted in F 1st Revision.
d. Street address shall be added on the ground sign subject to Staff
approval.
12. The proposed time /temperature panel shall be constructed with internal
circuitry prohibiting rapid flashing of information displayed. Flip
signals may be used per Staff approval.
13. All illuminated on -site directional signs on the subject property shall
be on only during banking hours.
14. The Architectural and Site Approval Committee or its staff shall retain
authority to review lighting intensity of any sign installed pursuant
to approvals granted under this application per Section 7.07.1 of
Ordinance 746.
Member Irvine seconded the motion.
A roll call vote was taken with the following results:
Member Rippliriger - aye
Member Bond - aye
Member Sallan - aye
Member Irvine - aye
Chairman Claudy - aye
A recess was taken at 9:30 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 9:41 p.m.
3. Application HC -51,383.2 - Good Samaritan United .Methodist Church requesting
approval of site modification for Phase One, and architecture, landscaping
and lighting for Phase Two. Said property is located at the southeast corner
of the intersection of Homestead Road and Linnet Way.
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Warren Gilbert, 168 Jackson Street, San Jose (the architect) , and Mel Brawn,
1149 Jamestown Dr., Sunnyvale, were present as applicants.
Site
Staff was concerned about the width of the handicapped parking spaces. The
applicant indicated that the spaces are 13' wide and are not clear in
the drawing. White paint will be used for, striping in the parking area and
red paint in the recreation area (volleyball court, etc.) to avoid confusio .
Approximately 10 bicycle parking spaces will be provided.
Consensus: Committee Members saw no problem with the site.
Architecture
The structure will be the same architecture as Phase I which was approved
previously. The Committee had no concerns.
Landscaping
Chairperson Claudy and Member Bond expressed the opinion that Phase I and
Phase II landscaping should both have drip irrigation. Applicant will use
this method. Applicant noted that they will also use 50% drought resistant
planting. Member Ripplinger noted that the current landscape plan does
not look like they are 50% drought -resistant.
Grading - The Committee saw no problem with the grading plan.
Lighting
Staff suggested that an additional light be added at the south edge of
the parking lot. Applicant will add this fixture.
Staff added a concern about the sale of books and religious jewelry in the
Phase I multi -purpose building. Applicant said that this is for church
members' benefit and is not a commercial concern.
Since there were no comments from the audience, :^.ember Bond moved and Member
Sallan seconded that the public hearing be closed.
Motion carried 5-0
Member Sallan moved that Application HC -51,383.2 be recommended for approval Approval o:
subject to standard ASAC conditions 1-8 and Conditions 9-12 as follows: Applicatio:
HC -51,383.
9. The recommendation of approval is based on Exhibits A 1st Revision, B,
B -1, B-2 and 3-3 of this application except as may be amended by special
conditions contained herein.
10. All conditions of approval specified in Architectural and Site Approval
Committee Resolution No. 615 shall remain in effect as regards this
development.
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11. Exhibit A shall be modified to include secure bicycle parking facilities
in type and quantity satisfactory to the City Traffic Engineer.
12. The proposed landscaping plan for Phase I and II of this development
shall utilize drip emitter irrigation equipment in shrubs, trees and
ground cover areas. Final landscape plan showing plant type shall
be approved by City Staff. At least 50% of all plantings shall be
drought tolerant and shall be so certified by a landscape architect
prior to issuance of building permits.
Member Ripplinger seconded the motion.
Motion carried 5-0
This application will go to the City Council on October 3, 1977.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS (postponed from earlier in the meeting)
A letter from Mrs. O'Patti Brisco of Monta Vista was received in reference to
street lighting fixtures in the Cupertino Meadows subdivision on Scenic
Boulevard. A reply letter was drafted by Staff and the Committee was
satisfied with it. Chairman Claudy suggested that it be addressed as the
author signed her letter to the City.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Mark Caughey presented new information from the County Transit District on
new bus shelters. They will be placed on major streets only if they are
installed. A report attached to the regular staff report described the
various sizes and materials and benches available. Color slides of existing
bus shelters in the San Jose area and Sunnyvale were shown.
Committee members expressed concern about room for the handicapped. Some
of the shelters have this room.
Mr. Caughey noted that the Transit district is in favor of people designing
their own shelters. The developer would have his design approved by the
City Council and the Transit district and would have to make up the difference
between federal money allowed per shelter and the cost.
Member Ripplinger commented that he does not think uniformity in shelters is
important because different areas look different. Chairperson Claudy said
he thinks there would probably be a standard shelter with variations where
appropriate. Member Bond said he felt it would be nice to have uniformity
along DeAnza Boulevard. Member Sallan said there should be some uniformity
involved.
Member Sallan asked if Vallco Park had been contacted about the moving sign.
Mr. Caughey checked into the minutes of the meeting at which the sign was
approved and it says that the sign would not have an extreme flashing message.
Staff will contact Vallco Park in writing in this matter.
The Committee also requested staff to advise Dean Witter & Co. that they are
in violation of the sign ordinance by displaying two wall signs on the same
wall of their building.
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Member Irvine commented that the Mini -Storage sign is visible from the
freeway. Mr. Caughey said that a temporary permit was issued for the sign
until the storage site was occupied. Member Irvine said that he has seen
recreational vehicles stored there. Staff will look into this for possible
violation.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:00 p.m. until the next regular meeting of
October 6, 1977 at 7:00 p.m.
APPROVED:
Is/ John Claudy
Chairman
ATTEST:
Is/ Wm. E. Ryder
City Clerk
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