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HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes - 07-21-1977CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino 95014 Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE HELD ON JULY 21, 1977, IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was opened at 7:10 p.m. by Chairman Claudy with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Members present: Bond (8:30), Irvine, Ripplinger, Sallan, Chairman Claudy Members absent: None Staff present: Senior Planning Technician Mark Caughey Chairman Claudy announced that no public hearing would be initiated after 11:00 p.m. and that the Committee would adjourn at midnight. INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATION: None APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Page 3, paragraph 6, last sentence, replace "brown" with "black" Page 5, paragraph 12, second line, replace "square footage" with "linear frontage". Page 8, first paragraph, third line should read, "...was required and asked the Committee to consider.....". Moved by Member Sallan, seconded by Member Irvine, to approve the Minutes of July 7, 1977, as corrected. Motion carried, 4-0 HC -198 Page 1 Minutes of 7/7/77 approved as corrected HC -198_ Page 2 HC -51,392 .2 Cal Coast Sign Company (Four Phase) Public Hear- ings closed MINUTES OF THE JULY 21, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING POSTPONEMENTS: None WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. Application HC -51,392.2 - Cal Coast Sign Company (Four Phase) requesting approval of a sign program for an industrial com- plex located easterly of and adjacent to North De Anza Boule- vard. Continued from ASAC meeting of July 7, 1977. A site plan showing the location of the signs and the revised design of the directional signs was exhibited and studied. Member Sallan expressed concern about the height of the site identi- fication sign if it were placed at the top of the mound. After a brief discussion, it was agreed the sign was not to be placed more than half -way up the linear side of the mound. Mr. Art Eggers, Four Phase Systems, said the sign would be at the foot of the mound. The hearing was opened to public comment. There were none. Member Sallan ascertained there would be landscaping around the signs. Member Salon moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Irvine. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Sallan moved to approve Application HC -51,392.2 subject to the following conditions: (1-8) Architectural and Site Approval Standard Conditions to the extent that they do not conflict with the special conditions enumerated herein. In the event a conflict does exist, the special conditions as enumerated herein shall apply. (9) That the approval is based upon Exhibits F, F-1 and F-2 of this application except as may be amended by special conditions contained herein. MINUTES OF THE JULY 21, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING (10) Precise location of the site identification sign shown on Exhibit F shall be approved by staff prior to issuance of an installation permit. (11) The Architectural and Site Approval Committee or its staff may review lighting intensity of signs approved under this application in accordance with Section 7.07 of Ordinance 746, (12) The placement of the main entrance sign adjacent to Build- ing- 3 and Building 2 shall not be placed more than half- way up the landscaped slope. Seconded by Member Irvine. Motion carried, 4-0 2. Application HC -51,227.4 - Measurex Corporation requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading and lighting for an industrial building located at Results Way and Bubb Road. Continued from ASAC meeting of July 7, 1977. A colored rendering was displayed, along with the site plan. Mr. Art Osaki, Measurex Corporation, Dennis Kobzo and Herb Bowen architects and Bob Adsero, landscape architect, introduced themselves. Mr. Bowen answered Member Ripplinger that the existing 25 ft. planting area would be continued. Referring to acoustical report, Member Bond spoke to the addition of 2 ft. in height to wall an west property line. The length of the wall was also discussed. With reference to the acoustical report, Chairman Claudy said he felt some of the figures were misleading. This was briefly discussed. The Committee was in agreement that two feet should be added to the wall. The applicants agreed to do this. Mr. Kobzo said they had met with the homeowners of adjacent property and explained the plans to them. The homeowners seemed to be satis- fied with what was proposed. Member Bond noted both sides of the wall would be heavily landscaped with evergreen trees. HC -198 Page 3 HC -51,392.2 approved w/ conditions HC -51,227.4 Measurex Corporation HC -19& MINUTES OF THE JULY 21, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 4 - The applicants had not prepared an exhibit of the wall. Mr. Kobzo described the type of wall they planned to use. Chairman Claudy suggested the "brick" side be placed toward the residential side. Having a "cap" on top of the wall was discussed. The applicants were advised to bring a sketch of the wall to staff for approval. Mr. Bowen described the design of the dock and architecture of the building. A brief discussion was held on staff report notation that the number of parking spaces provided exceeded ordinance minimum requirement. Mr. Bowen pointed out there was a 30 ft. driveway. He said based on City standards there should be no problem. Referring to a discussion at last meeting, staff member Caughey reported the figures in the ordinance were interpreted as minimum. Member Irvine said he thought the standard was written backwards - that 63 ft. would require 10 ft. stalls and 65 ft. would require 9 ft. stalls. After discussion, Chairman Claudy clarified that according to City standards, if the stalls were 9 ft. wide, they could not be more than 18 ft. deep. Mr. Bowen explained facilities being planned for handicapped. Chair- man Claudy suggested a bright blue paint be used for identifying the handicapped areas. It was agreed that the applicants could lower the stall length and put in landscaping if they so desired. The applicants assured the committee members that the structure would match the existing buildings. The building height was discussed with Mr. Caughey explaining staff's concern. Mr. Bowen explained dimensions of building as relating to the grade. Relative to staff concern of upper story windows on west elevation impacting visual privacy of adjacent homes, Member Irvine ascertained the homeowners had studied the elevations and had expressed no concern over this possibility. Mr. Kobzo said the homeowners were mainly concerned about security and landscaping. MINUTES OF THE JULY 21, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING The landscaping plans were studied and Mr. Adsero explained the pro- posal. After discussion, it was agreed the Liquidambar tree along the west property line would be changed to an evergreen variety with flowering cherry trees used for color. Chairman Claudy suggested it would be nice if the dumpsters could be screened. Slides were shown of the site and existing development with the dumpster highly visible. The hearing was opened to comments from the audience. There were none. Member Sallan moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Ripplinger. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Sallan moved to recommend approval of Application HC -51,227.4, subject to the following conditions: (1-8) Architectural and Site Approval Standard Conditions to the extent that they do not conflict with the special condition enumerated herein. In the event a conflict does exist, the special conditions as enumerated herein shall apply. (9) The recommendation of approval is based on Exhibits A, B, C and D of this application except as may be amended by conditions contained herein. (10) Parking stall dimensions shown on Exhibit A shall be revised per City of Cupertino Standard Details. (11) The proposed flowering Cherry tree shall be changed in favor of proposed screening material and the flowering cherry to be used as accent at the discretion of the architect. (12) The proposed Liquidambar tree along the west property line shall be deleted in favor of an evergreen specie. (13) Final height of proposed masonry wall at west boundary of property shall be 8 ft. precast concrete wall with slumpstone face to the residential side. Wall to have a cap at the top. Specific design to be submitted to staff for final approval. Construction of the wall shall be as per recommendation included in the July 18, 1977, Edw. L. Pack Associates report, page 6, item 4. HC -198 Page 5 Public Hear- ing closed HC -198 } - Page 6 HC -51,29 6.41 Nor -Cal Assoc, (The Koll Company) MINUTES OF THE JULY 21, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING (14) Exterior lighting fixtures approved under this application shall be subject to staff -review at building permit level to ensure protection of the public from excessive intensity or spill -over into adjoining properties or rights -of -way. Seconded by Member Ripplinger. Motion carried, 4-0 Chairman Claudy advised this would go before the City Council at its August 1, 1977 meeting. 3. Application HC -51,296.41 - Nor -Cal. Associates (The Koll Company) requesting approval of signing for a shopping center located at the southeast quadrant of Bandley Drive and Alves Drive. Contined from ASAC meeting of July 7, 1977. A colored rendering of the sign program was exhibited and Mr. Jim Cassidy of Federal Signs explained the proposal. Chairman Claudy ascertained the letters on the east elevation would be kept in proportion. There would be a dark brown edge on the letters on this elevation with the front letters to be totally white. Mr. Cassidy answered Member Sallan that the white being proposed was more opaque than some whites. Color chips of different shades of white were displayed and discussed. Member Sallan noted the white letters against the dark background would be very strong. She favored using the ivory being proposed for the tenant signs. This was dis- cussed. Member Ripplinger pointed out that the street number ought to be included on the ground sign. It was suggested and agreed to use metal numbers on the slumpstone portion of the sign. Chairman Claudy referred to applicant's sign criteria dated July 15, 1977, noting it did not contain details of can size, color, etc. as was needed for sign program. Member Ripplinger stated the criteria could be simplified, With regard to signs on staggered elevations, Mr. Bertnstein, architect for James W. Foug, assured the committee members that the signs would be on one plane only and he would be happy to include this in the sign criteria. Mr. Caughey displayed exhibit of shop sign colors. MINUTES OF THE JULY 21, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Sallan said the proposed brown with ivory letters would make a handsome sign and suggested the white letters be changed to the ivory. Mr. Cassidy said there would be no contrast with the ivory against the slumpstone. He said there were two specific parts to their sign program; the main tenant and the shop tenants. Member Bond agreed with the applicant's reasoning and said he felt the revised signs were in accordance with the suggestions given the applicants at the last meeting. Member Ripplinger felt perhaps they didn't need three signs and wondered if they really needed a variance. He pointed out the restaurant would probably want a ground sign too. He would prefer the ivory letters also. Member Irvine said he could not take exception to anything that was being proposed. Chairman Claudy said he liked the ivory background on a sign but he would go along with the white for the Alpha Beta because it was a figure standing out against the field. He would go with ivory for the tenant signs. An exception for the second sign on De Anza Boulevard frontage of building was discussed. Member Sallan ascertained the setback from Stevens Creek Boulevard was approximately 600 feet. Mr. Caughey said the sign out front would identify the center and the fact that there was an Alpha Beta store in the center. Mr. Ford of Alpha Beta Company pointed out there would only be the one sign visible from De Anza Boulevard. Chairman Claudy said Section 6.03.3 of the Sign Ordinance did not legally allow a ground sign; however, he felt the sign was appropriates and aesthetic. Member Irvine said he thought the sign program as described was reason- able, made sense and he would approve it. Member Bond agreed. Chairman Claudy noted the committee was a group representing the citizens and as a citizen he felt the sign program was acceptable. HC -198 Page 7 HC -198 P age 8 Public Hear- ings closed Motion Motion Out of Order Motion Amendment MINUTES OF THE JULY 21, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Sallan stressed the importance of providing a rationale or find- ings for an exception. Mr. Caughey referred to items 1, 2 and 4 of Section 1.03.02. Member Sallan agreed the uniqueness of the lot was the 600 ft. depth and a sign was needed for identification. She noted also that this problem would probably not arise very often in the City. The tenant sign program was discussed. It was noted each tenant would have to conform to Ordinance. No more than 70% of fascia area could be covered. The committee members agreed they felt comfortable with the program as proposed. The hearing was opened to comments from the audience. There were none. Member Sallan moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Bond. Motion carried, 5-0 Member Bond moved for approval of Application HC -51,296.41 with standard H -Control conditions and per Exhibit F-3. Seconded by Member Irvine. Chairman Claudy declared the motion out of order because no findings were included. Member Irvine said he felt the committee's time and the applicant's time was being wasted by needless nit-picking. Member Bond moved for approval of Application HC -51,296.41, with Exhibit F-3, standard H -Control conditions and the finding for the exception to the Sign Ordinance being justified because of the excessive setback from major frontage on Stevens Creek Boulevard. Seconded by Member Irvine. Staff member Caughey said he would include the applicant's sign program as part of Exhibit F-3. Chairman Claudy moved for an amendment that the linear wall length for Koll Company tenant signs shall be the particular plane on which they are mounted and no tenant sign shall exceed 70% of the wall plane on which it is mounted. Seconded by Member Sallan. Amendment carried, 5-0 The exception to the Sign Ordinance for one additional wall sign was 11.01 and all three criteria would apply. MINUTES OF THE JULY 21, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING HC -198 Page 9 VOTE ON MOTION: AYES: Bond, Irvine, Ripplinger, Sallan, Chairman Claudy HC -51,296.4 NAYS: None approved w/ conditions Motion carried, 5-0 Chairman Claudy advised this would be heard by the City Council at the August 1, 1977 meeting. UNFINISHED BUSINESS: None NEW BUSINESS: Chairman Claudy reported on Mayor's luncheon. Water rates likely to go up. Proposal from Kaiser relative to solid waste land fill site in canyon behind Voss pond. Blue paint for handicapped stalls Chairman Claudy also reported on call from Barbara Rogers relative to written reports from Fire Marshal, on every application for construction in City. She thought ASAC might want to include these in their consideration of applications. After discussion, staff was asked to be vigilant and report to ASAC on things which should be reviewed. Chairman Claudy also reported on proposal to change side yard set back fence requirements on corner lots. Chairman Claudy said the City Council has charged ASAC with making a study on potential water use mitigation and energy use. Study to be completed as soon as possible. Staff was asked to contact people with expertise in these areas to attend a meeting on August 11, 1977. Committee members to submit questions for perusal by the experts. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 9:34 p.m. to the next regular meeting on August 4, 1977, at 7:00 p.m. APPROVED: Is/ John Claudy Chairman ATTEST: Is/ Wm. E. Ryder City Clerk