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HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes - 04-07-1977CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE HELD ON APRIL 7, 1977 IN THE LIBRARY CONFERENCE ROOM, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG Chairperson Sallan opened the meeting at 7:05 p.m. with. the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Members present: Bond, Claudy, Irvine (7:15), Ripplinger, Chairperson Sallan Members absent: None Chairperson Sallan announced that no public hearing would be initiated after 11:00 p.m. and that the Committee would adjourn at midnight. INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATION: None APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Member Claudy moved to accept Minutes of March 10, 1977 as presented. Seconded by Member Bond. Motion carried, 3-0-1 Abstain: Sallan On page 3, paragraph 6, of Minutes of March 24, 1977, the word "lights" should be "letters". On page 5, paragraph 3, the last sentence to read, "She pointed out other buildings in the center had aesthetically designed signs." Page 5, paragraph 9 should read: "......advised the applicant the proposed ground sign would appear to lack support by the Committee althoug a change .......". HC -191 Page 1 Minutes of 3/10/77 approved as presented HC -191 Page 2 Minutes of 3/24/77 approved as amended HC -51,027.17 continued to 4/21/77 meeting HC -51,383.1 Good Samari- tan United Methodist Church 6 -month extension granted MINUTES OF THE APRIL 7, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 5, last paragraph should read, "...advised the applicants of their rights should the design be denied. They could....". Page 6, paragraph 8, the last sentence should read, "The multiplicity of copy on the sign created problems." Page 7, paragraph 12, after "complaints" add "from the community". Page 8, paragraph 7, first line, insert "newly established City-wide" between "to" and "landscaping". Moved by Member Claudy, seconded by Member Bond, to approve Minutes of March 24, 1977 as amended. Motion carried, 4-0 POSTPONEMENTS: As per request of applicant, Member Bond moved to continue Application HC -51,027.17, item 1, to April 21, 1977 ASAC meeting. Second- ed by Member Claudy. Motion carried, 4 -0 WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: Application HC -51,383.1 - The Good Samaritan United Methodist Church: Requesting a six-month extension of time. Mr. Ken Smith, 12767 Arroyo De Arguello, Saratoga, chairman of the church's Board of Trustees, said the extension was being requested because they had been considering purchasing another piece of property. This had been decided against and they were now working with the architect on this modification. Member Claudy moved to grant a six month extension to the Good Samaritan United Methodist Church relative to Application HC -51,383.1. Seconded by Member Bond. ORAL COMMMUNICATIONS: None Motion carried, 4-0 MINUTES OF THE APRIL 7, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Since the applicants for items 2 and 3 were not present at this time, the Committee agreed to hear item 4 first. 4. Application HC -51,421.1 - Pacific Valley Bank requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading, lighting and signing for Phase One of a financial office complex located at the northeasterly quadrant of North De Anza Boulevard and Stevens Creek Boulevard. Staff member Mark Caughey referred to City Council discussion about ingress and egress and how it related to St. Joseph church property. He advised Exhibit E was the solution being proposed. He read City Council condition covering this point. Mr. Phillip Boyce, 1245 S. Winchester Blvd., San Jose, said Exhibit E represented a mutual agreement between the church and themselves. He displayed a colored rendering of the proposed building. Site: Member Claudy ascertained the bus turn -out would be to the City Engineer's satisfaction. Mr. Boyce pointed out that combining the five separate parcels of property would eliminate quite a few curb cuts. Mr. Boyce also advised they had obtained the City's approval to use a shingle roof material. With regard to compact parking stall configuration, Mr. Boyce said this was done to save a large tree. Member Irvine pointed out the tree would not be affected by flipping the stall arrangement. Mr. Boyce agreed to this. A discussion was held with several alternatives being suggested. Architecture: It was ascertained the building would be a Olympic white stain over redwood. Mr. Boyce described how it would look. Landscaping: Mr. Caughey explained staff's suggestion for walkway and displayed schematic of proposal. The applicant agreed to this. Mr. Boyce said they would like flexibilityto use Bomanite in their areas. They would use the concrete on main sidewalk to maintain consistency. With regard to plant selection, Mr. Boyce said they had no objections to substituting plants as suggested in the staff report. The Committee was in agreement that the Oleander should be deleted. HC -191 Page 3 HC -51,421.1 Pacific Valley Bank HC -191 Page 4 Public Hear- ing closed MINUTES OF THE APRIL 7, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Grading: Mr. Boyce said they had no grading plan at this time but their intent was to retain natural grading. It was agreed that Mr. Caughey could bring in their grading plan for ASAC approval. Lighting: Lighting portion was continued so applicant could supply detailed drawing. Signs: Mr. Boyce said the signs submitted had not been satisfactory so they would be bringing in an application for signing at a later date. Conceptually they were planning to have a free standing sign and numbers on the building. The hearing was then opened for public comments. There were none. Member Claudy moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Bond. Motion carried, 5-0 Member Bond moved approval of Application HC -51,421.1, subject to standard conditions and additional conditions of: 1. That the recommendation of approval is based on Exhibits A, B, B-1, B-2, C, E and staff informational exhibit of sidewalk configuration except as may be amended by special conditions contained herein. 2. Exhibit A of this application shall be modified to reflect a bus turnout dimensioned to Department of Public Works specification. 3. The parking stall dimensions at the south end of the bank building shall be modified to the satisfaction of the director of Public Works. 4. Handicapped parking stalls shall maintain a minimum dimensional size of 12 ft. by 18 ft. 5. Consistent with Condition 20 of Planning Commission Resolution No. 1672, a 50 ft. landscape setback dedication on the Stevens Creek Boulevard frontage of Phase Two of this development shall be required. Further, during future hearings regarding Phase Two of this development, the Architectural and Site Approval Committee may review and modify the site plan approved under Phase One of this application to assure a coordinated circula- tion system between Phases One and Two of the development. MINUTES OF THE APRIL 7, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING 6. The walkway system on the west side of the bank building shall be modified as shown on the staff informational exhibit. 7. The sidewalk finish shall be as detailed on Exhibit Informational -3 of Application HC -51,392.1. The applicant will have the option to use Bomanite on private sidewalks. 8. The planting plan for the 50 ft. setback area adjacent to DeAnza Boulevard shall be modified to include ground cover on the east side of the sidewalk in place of, or in addition to lawn; selection of ground cover species subject to staff approval at the building permit level. The proposed Juniper Chinensis shown on the parkway portion of the site shall be completely or partially deleted in favor of Hebe "Coed" Raphiolepsis, subject to staff approval at the building permit level. 9. The Pinus Halepensis shown on Exhibit C is not approved. A substitute species and arrangement thereof shall be presented for staff approval at the building permit level. 10. Screening plants shall be installed at the west end of the northern most bank of parking stalls as shown on Exhibit C. 11. At least two trees shall be installed on the west side of the sidewalk within the parkway area, subject to staff approval at the building permit level. 12. Lighting and signing will be continued. 13. The grading will be conceptually approved with the under- standing that it will retain existing topography and there will be no large variation in building pads. Final approval on grading will be by staff. 14. The applicant is to supply staff with diagram and description of methods of protecting existing trees which will remain. Seconded by Member Claudy. Motion carried, 5-0 Chairperson Sallan notified the applicant this would now be heard by the City Council at its April 18,1977 meeting. Thanks were extended to Mr. Caughey for his analysis of the application HC -191 Page 5 HC -51,421.1 approved w/ conditions HC -191 Page 6 MINUTES OF THE APRIL 7, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING 2. Application HC -51,265.1 - Quality Tune-up - Ken Davis (Texaco) requesting approval of a sign plan for an existing service station located at the northeast corner of De Anza Boulevard and Stevens Creek Boulevard. Continued from H -Control meeting of March 24, 1977. A colored rendering of proposed sign was displayed. Mr. Larry Armstrong, 175 Wooded View Drive, Los Gatos, answered Chair- person Sallan the gas price portion of the sign had been raised to try to prevent vandalism. It was noted the 75 sq. ft. per side was allowed and height of proposed sign was acceptable under the ordinance. Mr. Ken Davis, 1132 Olive Branch Lane, San Jose, answered Member Ripplinger that the height of the building was at least 20 ft. Chairperson Sallan noted one of the issues at the last hearing was the yellow background on the center sign and she felt it was still an issue. Because of the multiplicity of copy and colors, she felt the background would look better if it were white or a more muted background color. Mr. Davis said the yellow was part of their company image and to change it for this one station would be a problem. He said the sign company people felt the softer yellow would not make an attractive sign. He reiterated they needed a brand identity. Mr. Davis answered Member Irvine that the other buildings have red, blue and green stripes. He pointed out they had changed this station to brown stripes at this Committee's suggestion. Member Irvine suggested using a light brown on the sign instead of the yellow. He felt the red of the Texaco sign and the yellow of the Quality sign would clash. Mr. Davis expressed his opinion that if a sign were identified by color, it didn't have to be as large. In response to comments by the Committee members, Mr. Davis suggested having prices in black numbers rather than the red. Member Bond said this was not the prettiest sign he had seen, but he could vote for a yellow if the applicant needed it for his identity. Member Claudy agreed with changing the prices to black. He also thought the more subdued yellow would be preferable. He pointed out the sign could be shortened by at least a foot by dropping the word "shops". MINUTES OF THE APRIL 7, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Mr. Davis said the reason for adding the "shops" was to advertise they have more than one Quality Tune -Up shop. Member Bond supported Member Claudy's recommendation to remove "shops". Mr. Caughey pointed out the window signs showing tune-up price would have to come out if building and ground signs were retained. Mr. Davis said some way they had to advertise the Total $36.00. Possibl places for this to be added were discussed. Allowing an exception was discussed. A review of the Committee showed that all or most of the members would approve the brown stripes, the sign as designed with the word "shop" eliminated, a lighter yellow background and black gas price letters. Member Claudy said he would be in favor of an exception to reduce mass of the sign. After further discussion, it was suggested the "Total $36.00" be substituted for the word "shop". Mr. Armstrong said he thought it would be garish and the use of the lighter yellow would make the sign look old. He pointed out they have no control over the Texaco sign. Public hearing was opened for comments. There were none. Member Claudy moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Bond. Motion carried, 5-0 Member Claudy moved for approval of Application HC -51,265.1, subject to standard H -Control conditions with the further conditions that 1. Approval of basic sign copy is as per Exhibit F-1 1st Rev. with the further modification that the center portion of that sign will read "Quality Tune -Up Total $36.00" as per original Exhibit F. 2. That the gas price signs shall be in black as opposed to red. 3. The background for the Quality Tune-up sign shall be Rohm -Hass No. 2325 or equivalent. HC -191 Page 7 Public Hear- ing closed HC -191 Page 8 MINUTES OF THE APRIL 7, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING 4. That the two existing painted price signs in the service station office windows be removed. 5. That prior to installation of the ground sign shown on Exhibit F, a financial guarantee for the removal of the existing ground sign on the site shall be posted with the City in a form and amount acceptable to the Director of Planning and Development. Said removal deposit shall be refunded in full upon removal of the subject existing ground sign. 6. The existing red, green and blue painted stripes on the front of the building shall be repainted in contrasting shades of brown as per modified Exhibit F-1. 7. The copy style of the existing painted wall sign on the front of the building shall remain as is and shall not match Exhibit F-1. 8. The applicant shall prepare a landscaping plan for the area immediately surrounding the proposed ground sign shown on Exhibit F. Such landscaping plans shall be subject to staff approval. Staff, at its option, shall refer said landscaping plan to the Architectural and Site Approval Committee for their review. 9. The ground sign shall not be higher than the highest point of building as per the sign ordinance. Seconded by Member Irvine. Member Bond advised he would vote no because he could not justify a color change because of applicant's insistence. AYES: Claudy, Irvine, Ripplinger, Chairperson Sallan NOES: Bond Motion carried, 4-1 Chairperson Sallan advised this would now be heard by the City Council at its April 18, 1977 meeting. Mr. Davis ascertained the stripes should be carried around the sides and down at back of the building. At 8:50 p.m. a break was taken with the meeting reconvening at 9:05 p.m. I MINUTES OF THE APRIL 7, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING 3. Application HC -51,419.1 - Dividend Industries, Inc. requesting approval of landscaping for a residential development located at the northwest corner of Stelling Road and Alves Drive. Renderings of the sound wall and plants were displayed. Photos of an identical wall were distributed. Mr. Martin Oakley, 3600 Pruneridge Avenue, Santa Clara, advised the wall was slumpstone on one side and broom textured on the back side. Member Ripplinger said he felt the area would be predominantly walls. Copies of Planning Commission Resolution No. 1647 were distributed. Mr. Oakley said the slope would be 2-1/2 ft. or less. Mr. Oakley answered Member Irvine the joints between the panels are precast with the panels and the connection would not be exposed. Member Claudy ascertained this wall would be the same texture as existing wall at the Commons. Chairperson Sallan said the landscaping on the wall should be very significant so the impact of the wall would be alleviated. It was noted there were only 14 pyrus plants on 500 ft. of wall. Chairperson Sallan said she did not feel this plan mitigated impact of the wall. Mr. Oakley said they would be willing to add more plants. Member Claudy pointed out the espalier plant would take quite a bit of maintenance. This generated a discussion on who would maintain the plants on the outside of the wall. Mr. Caughey was to obtain clarification on this. Chairperson Sallan asked if the applicant would accept a continuance so the matter of maintenance could be clarified and the wall plan changed for better coverage. The applicant agreed to take a continu- ance. Member Irvine asked about the 10 ft. buffer adjacent to Memorial Park. Mr. Oakley said they would agree to staff's recommendation with regard to the Ann Arbor Drive "mini cul-de-sac". HC -191 Page 9 HC -51,419.1 Dividend Industries, Inc. The meeting was then opened for public comments. There were none. HC -191 Page 10 Public Hear- ing closed HC -51,419.1 continued MINUTES OF THE APRIL 7, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Irvine moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Ripplinger. Motion carried, 5-0 Member Irvine moved to continue Application HC -51,419.1. Seconded by Member Bond. Motion carried, 5-0 5. Application HC -51,075.403 - T.G.I. Friday's Inc. requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading, light- ing and signing for a restaurant located in Vallco Fashion Park. Mr. Walter Ward, General Manager of Valico Park, noted three months of in-house work had gone into this. He pointed out there is no back to the restaurant because of its location. He introduced the staff of men working on this project. Mr. Melvin Fain, Dallas, Texas, answered Member Ripplinger the loading dock was put on Wolfe Road side because they felt it could be screened better. Mr. Bill Tagg, Vallco Village representative, said the pedestrian pathways would be accented in some way. Chairperson Sallan referred to the staff memo and asked if the appli- cants had any comments. The blue color of exterior walls was discussed. Mr. Fain pointed out that the blue on the east elevation would be changed to brown. He said there are 13 stores and most of the other stores have more blue; they had changed to brown to better harmonize with Vallco center. Mr. Walt Henron, Dallas, Texas, described the inside of the restaurant and the type of service being offered. He described the outdoor eating area. He pointed out the blue on the wall would be recessed 6 ft. and 10 ft. A chip of the color was displayed by Mr. Fain. Grading: Mr. Tagg described cross sections showing grade variations and mounding. Landscaping: Mr. Noni Mendoza, 562 Mission Street, San Francisco, explained how landscaping approach would screen parking from Wolfe Road. MINUTES OF THE APRIL 7, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Mr. Tagg answered Chairperson Sallan that security problems had been reported behind the parking mounding at the center. Member Bond pointed out Vallco has been very good about making any changes that were needed. Member Claudy ascertained the oleanders proposed at south edge of building next to outdoor eating area had been changed. Chairperson Sallan felt the north elevation needed more landscaping. Mr. Tagg pointed out the mounding in front of it was 5 ft. Lighting: Mr. Fain described the lighting. A site plan showing location of lights was displayed. Signing: Mr. Henron said the sign letters are of 12" gold leaf wood letters. With regard to graphic sign on west wall, Members Claudy, Bond, Irvine and Ripplinger found it acceptable. Chairperson Sallan thought it was too large. The size of the graphic sign in relation to the ordinance was dis- cussed. Chairperson Sallan pointed out other people would expect the same leniency. Since it was recessed, the majority of the Committee members thought it acceptable. With regard to eliminating individual letters on west wall, Mr. Henron said these are very expensive and attractive letters and identify the entrances. He said it was more an architectural treatment than signing. Mr. Burrel Leonard pointed out the location is an island, it doesn't face any street. These two signs will show as people come out the north end of Bullock's. He said this was an unusual situation. Member Claudy said he didn't have any trouble with leaving the two wall signs. He felt it balanced each other and fit the building nicely. Member Irvine agreed. He felt the letters were unobtrusive and added to the architecture of the building. Chairperson Sallan felt if they had known about the ordinance, which she ascertained they had not, they would have designed around this constraint. Now they are fitting ordinance to sign as proposed. Member Bond said he did not see any justification for both corner signs and he would like to see a picture of how it would look. Member Ripplinger agreed. HC -191 Page 11 3C-191 Page 12 ?ublic Hear- ing closed MINUTES OF THE APRIL 7, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING The hearing was opened to public comments. There were none. Member Bond moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Claudy. Motion carried, 5-0 Member Claudy moved to approve Application HC -51, 075.403, subject to standard H -Control conditions, and the additional conditions: (1) Signing portion of the application is not a part of this resolution. (2) Blue paneling on the east elevation of the building shall be stained brown to match the rest of the building trim. (3) Approval is based on Exhibits A, B, B -1, C, D and D-1. (4) Permission is given for substituting another plant for the Oleander on the side. (5) The applicant will give serious consideration to strengthening landscaping design on north boundary of parking area. (6) Light intensity is subject to staff review. Seconded by Member Irvine. Motion carried, 5-0 Member Bond moved to approve that part of the signing portion of Application HC -51,075.403 which relates to the T.G.I. Friday's super graphic sign as per Exhibit B and to continue the two wall signs above the door. The size variance from the present ordinance is found to be permissible because it is a Planned Development, it is internally oriented and is not visible from any public right-of-way, it is under a 6 ft. overhang and adds architectural character. Seconded by Member Claudy. AYES: Bond, Claudy, Irvine NOES: Chairperson Sallan ABSTAIN: Ripplinger Motion carried, 3-1-1 MINUTES OF THE APRIL 7, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Mr. Hernon asked why the same findings would not apply to the west fascia sign, assuming the signs were not unattractive. Chairperson Sallan advised the approved portion of the application would be heard by the City Council at its April 18, 1977 meeting. UNFINISHED BUSINESS: Mr. Caughey said he had sent out questionnaires relative to meeting place of the ASAC. Mr. Ward said he preferred the Council Chambers because of larger area to present proposals and because with the microphones, the comments of the members could be better heard. Also because the seats are more comfortable for those who must wait through the meeting. Mr. Ward also suggested that out-of-town applicants might be placed first on the agenda so there was no possibility of their hearing being delayed. Mr. Caughey said he would present a summary of his findings when the citizen input was available. Member Ripplinger reported the McWhorter's sign was a little bright and wondered if it had been checked. Member Claudy noted the bottom panel was not covered and the script "Stationery" seemed smaller. Member Ripplinger pointed out they have two wall signs and a ground sign. Member Ripplinger inquired who checked the temporary signs. This was briefly discussed. NEW BUSINESS: Member Claudy reported on issue discussed at the Council meeting. This was on raising the garbage rates. He felt the garbage company should be more stringent in putting dumpsters back into the trash enclosures and had proposed this at the Council meeting. The Code Enforcement Officer was to check. Member Bond reported on Mayor's Luncheon discussion regarding the new fireworks ordinance and the Fire District redistribution. ADJOURNMENT At 11:20 p.m. the meeting was adjourned to the April 21, 1977 meeting at 7:00 p.m. ATTEST: APPROVED: /s/ Wm. E. Ryder /s/ C. Nancy Sallan City Clerk Chairwoman HC -191 Page 13 ASAC Meeting place and agenda McWhorter's sign Temporary signs Dumpsters Dut of =nclos ures layor's :,uncheon