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HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes - 03-24-1977CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE HELD ON MARCH 24, 1977 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was opened at 7:15 p.m. with the Salute to the Flag by the Chairwoman. ROLL CALL Members present: Bond (7:35), Claudy, Ripplinger, Chairwoman Sallan Members absent: Irvine Staff present: Senior Planning Technician Mark Caughey INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATION: None APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Member Ripplinger, seconded by Member Claudy, to approve minutes at the end of the agenda. Motion carried, 3-0 POSTPONEMENTS: None WRITTEN C0109 NICATIONS: None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. Application HC -51,380.1 - Herbert Cuevas requesting approval of modification of conditions of approval for a commercial building located at the northeast corner of Scofield Drive and South De Anza Boulevard. Continued from H -Control meeting of March 10, 1977. HC -190 Page 1 Minutes moved to end of agenda HC -51,380.1 Herbert Cuevas HC -190 Page 2 Public Hear- ing closed MINUTES OF THE MARCH 24, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Staff member Caughey referred the committee members to Condition No. 8 of Resolution No. 607 as explained in staff memo of February 17, 1977. He said the applicant is requesting that the fence be left intact for both safety and aesthetic reasons. The final sentence of Condition No. 16 of same resolution should be eliminated then. Mr. Caughey pointed out the applicant had agreed to add some trailing vine or ivy to the fence structure in addition to the redwood slats. Mr. Herbert Cuevas, 480 N. 1st Street, San Jose, said they felt this would be the best solution at this time. He answered Member Claudy that the overhead wires would be installed underground at some time, which would improve the site. Chairwoman Sallan asked if it would be possible to plant some Eucalyptus trees along back parking lot. Mr. Cuevas said the parking lot was very heavily used and there would be another tenant using it. It would be difficult to plant trees in the 7 ft. strip. Mr. Cuevas answered Member Claudy that the trash enclosure would be modified and explained how they planned to do this with a redwood slat gate. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out the interior lights were very visible at night and asked if this could be controlled. Mr. Cuevas agreed to try to lessen the intrusion of the lights. The hearing was then opened to the public. There were no comments. Member Claudy moved to close Public Hearing, seconded by Member Ripplinger. Motion carried, 3-0 Member Claudy moved approval of HC -51,380.1, subject to standard H -Control conditions and the further conditions: (1) That ivy or some similar climbing plant will be planted along the chain link fence; the intent is for it to grow up and cover the fence. (2) That the last two sentences of Condition No. 16 of Resolution No.607 be deleted. Condition No. 16 to read: "The one-way drive shall be appropriately marked to ensure that automobiles do not enter from the major parking area in an attempt to exit onto the Crossroads Shopping Center parking lot or the opposite way on the one-way drive." MINUTES OF THE MARCH 24, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Ripplinger seconded the motion. Motion carried, 3-0 Chairwoman Sallan advised the application would be heard by the City Council at its April 4, 1977 meeting. 2. Application HC -51,075.441 - Vallco Park, Ltd. requesting amendment to sign program for a tenant sign for the Vallco Village Shopping Center located at the southwest corner of Wolfe Road and Homestead Road. Staff member Caughey referred to staff report of March 18, 1977, noting the applicant has changed the face of the sign from orange to white. He displayed exhibits of building elevation showing location of sign. He advised the sign program for Vallco Park Village Shopping Center is for ivory background with brown copy. Mr. James Thorne, architect for Wallbangers, said the building wall would be brown stain. He answered Member Claudy that the orange trim on the building would be retained. Member Claudy ascertained the letters would be illuminated. Mr. Thorne answered Member Claudy that the tennis courts were separate. Member Claudy felt it should be noted that the sign for the adjoining property should be compatible. Mr. Thorne answered Chairwoman Sallan the white was being used because they did not feel the orange would be visible from the street. Exhibits of the proposed tennis court facility were displayed. The committee members stressed the concern that future signs should be compatible. Mr. Thorne agreed to Chairwoman's suggestion that brown letters on ivory background be used. The hearing was opened to public comments. There were none. Member Ripplinger moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Claudy. Motion carried, 4-0 HC -190 Page 3 HC -51, 380.1 approved w/ conditions HC -51,075.441 Vallco Park, Ltd. HC -190 MINUTES OF THE MARCH 24, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 4 Member Claudy moved approval of Application HC -51,075.441, subject to standard H -Control conditions, with the further stipulation that the sign face shall be of ivory plexiglass equivalent to Rohm -Hass No. 2146. Also the intent of the Committee is for signing approach for future tennis facility to be made compatible with this approval for Wallbanger facility. HC -51,075.441 Seconded by Member Ripplinger. approved w/ condition Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant was notified this would be heard by the City Council at the April 4, 1977 meeting. 3. Application HC -51,027.17 - Ad -Art Signs, Inc. (Marchant Travel) requesting approval of a sign exception to Section 6.03.3 of Ordinance 746 to permit installation of a ground sign on a lot with insufficient setback and frontage. Subject property is located on the east side of De Anza Boulevard, north of Town Center Lane. Staff member Caughey showed slides of the Town Center site with examples of existing signing. He pointed out three Town Center signs in addition to building signs. Mr. Caughey referred to discussion in staff memo of March 18, 1977 regarding the possibility of a new Town Center ground sign that would identify both the Marchant building and the Town Center. It was staff's opinion that an alternative design may exist which would adequately identify the subject business within the limitations of Ordinance 746. The proposed ground sign was displayed. Mr. Bob Marchant, Marchant Building, Cupertino, said they were continu- ally getting calls asking for their location; some from across the street. He said they wanted to upgrade signs on building since the signs could not be seen at certain times of the day because of the sun and color of the building. They feel one low profile sign in front would be more aesthetic than a building sign. They would remove present building signs. He explained how the building was hidden from view by landscaping, noting he felt Town Center had a real signing problem. Chairwoman Sallan agreed the Town Center had a signing problem but noted no solution had yet been offered. Member Claudy noted that while they are legally separate from the Town Center, conceptually they are part of it. He would prefer to see Wells Fargo, Marchant and others be a part of the Town Center directory. MINUTES OF THE MARCH 24, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Ripplinger said he liked the street number being displayed at the top but felt the rest of the sign was too busy. Mr. Marchant said he understood they could have signs on the building for each business as an alternative, but they would prefer the low profile ground sign. Chairwoman Sallan noted that changing the gold on building sign would make it more visible. She pointed out other buildings in the center had aesthetically designed signs. Member Bond agreed having street number on the building in a visible place would help eliminate identity problem. Mr. Marchant said it was difficult to see face of building. The hearing was then opened to public comment. Mr. Warren Brown of Ad —Art Signs said he could speak objectively. He had just been transferred here and he could find neither 1030O De Anza or Town Center driving south. He felt signs on adjacent buildings were a clutter and not easily seen. He pointed out Marchant Travel was a competitive business and needed easy identity. Member Claudy repeated his feeling that Marchant Building should not be an entity apart from the Town Center. Member Ripplinger did not think the tenants could be seen on proposed sign. The slides were reshown. After further discussion, Chairwoman Sallan advised the applicant the proposed ground sign appeared to lack support by the Committee although a change in the Town Center ground sign would be welcomed. Mr. Marchant then explained proposal for a wall sign. Chairwoman Sallan suggested they might want to take a continuation to explore this further; or they could ask for a decision. Member Claudy read excerpts from the new Ordinance which led him to believe that the names of the individual tenants could not be on the sign. The Committee members being in agreement that the ground sign would not 1 approved, Chairwoman Sallan advised the applicants of their rights shoul< the design be denied. They could appeal the denial to City Council or take a continuation to pursue a design solution. Mr. Marchant asked for a continuation. HC -190 Page 5 HC -190 Page 6 Public Hear- ings closed HC -51,027.17 continued HC -51,265 .1 Quality Tun Up - Ken ya•4-s MINUTES OF THE MARCH 24, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Bond moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Claudy. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Bond moved to continue Application HC -51,027.17. Seconded by Member Claudy. Motion carried, 4-0 At 8:37 p.m. a recess was called, with the meeting reconvening at 8:47 p.m. 4. HC -51,265.1 - Quality Tune -Up - Ken Davis (Texaco) requesting approval of a sign plan for an existing service station located at the northeast corner of De Anza Boulevard and Stevens Creek Boulevard. Staff member Caughey showed slides of the site and -existing signs. He referred to staff memo of March 18, 1977 in which it was noted the existing ground sign would be removed if the Committee approved an alternative sign design such as Exhibit F. He noted staff's opinion that a white background would be better on the lower portion of the sign. He questioned the appropriateness of the tune-up price on the lower sign. It was pointed out the applicants have installed two painted window signs. While they closely conform to 25% limitation, these would make four signs, exceeding the ordinance limitation. Mr. Caughey said they had granted the applicants temporary approval for a non -illuminated wall sign painted on the front of the building. This approval did not cover the tri-colored stripes. He noted there had been complaints of the public regarding these stripes. The Committee members were in agreement that the 13 ft. height as pro- posed for the ground sign would be acceptable. The multiplicity of copy on the sign created problems. Member Ripplinger pointed out the Quality Tune -Up was both on the build- ing and the ground sign. Mr. Ken Davis, 1132 Olive Branch Avenue, San Jose, said they had not considered they would be losing their price signs. He said they dis- count a major gas to entice people to come in for a tune-up. They must have their prices prominently displayed. MINUTES OF THE MARCH 24, 1977 H -CONTROL ETIN G Chairwoman Sallan read portion of Sign Ordinance relating to price signs, Member Claudy suggested they might want to take a continuation and re -design. Mr. Davis agreed and asked for directions. He said Texaco insisted on a sign, they want to identify Quality tune-up shop and price of gas. Member Bond said the wall sign could be used rather than the $36.00 on the permanent sign. He said the yellow background also might be a problem. A discussion was held on colors. A mute yellow chip was displayed. Slides were shown of a Quality tune-up station at Camden Avenue. The Committee felt this would be a good approach. Mr. Davis said they wanted a continuity of colors. He felt the muted yellow would look old and washed out. An ivory background was suggested. Members Bond and Claudy said they did not mind the tri-colored stripes around the building. Member Bond said he felt the stripes were more a building decor than signing. Slides of the building were studied again. Mr. Davis said the stripes helped break up the massive appearance of the building as it was very large. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out they had excessive signing. It was explained the 25% window allowance was intended for temporary signs. With regard to stripes, Chairwoman Sallan felt since there had been complaints from the community they should be painted out. Members Bond and Claudy suggested they be kept and changed to another color. Mr. Davis promised the landscaping would be put in when the moratorium was lifted. Chairwoman Sallan suggested potted plants be placed around the building. The applicant agreed to do so. Chairwoman Sallan questioned appropriateness of having people stand in street with coke bottles waving people into the station. Mr. Davis explained they would be doing this only through Sunday but was needed to establish an identity on this corner, so this business could be an asset to the community. HC -190 Page 7 Mr. Davis agreed to Member Ripplinger's suggestion that a street number be put on the door. HC -190 Page 8 Public Hear- ing closed HC -51,265.1 continued Tour of City Terms of Committee members ASAC Meeting place Moratorium on!, landscaping HC -51,002.9 Ronald Dumas MINUTES OF THE MARCH 24, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING The hearing was then opened for public comment. There was none. Member Claudy moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Bond. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Bond moved to continue Application HC -51,265.1. Seconded by Member Claudy. Motion carried, 4-0 UNFINISHED BUSINESS: Chairwoman Sallan submitted a report on the tour of the City taken by members of the Committee. Staff to prepare a summary. Staff Member Caughey noted those members whose terms would expire would be contacted by the City Manager. He advised statements of conflict of interest were necessary before April. With regard to meeting place, letters had been drafted to be sent to the business community and responses would be forthcoming. Chairwoman Sallan referred to newly established City-wide torium and said she felt there should be other ways of co would not be so extreme. She suggested a Minute Order to regarding other measures and the possibility of a special discussion, it was agreed staff would explore possibility if a special session should be set up. NEW BUSINESS: landscaping mora- aserving water that the City Council study session. After and determine Application HC -51,002.9 - Ronald Dumas: Requesting informal review of landscaping. Staff member Caughey advised this application related to Rancho Deep Cliff barn. He displayed elevations showing minor changes being proposed to exterior of building. Eliminate ramp and barn door - Committee was not concerned about ramp but preferred to have the door retained. MINUTES OF THE MARCH 24, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING Remove first and last barn doors - No comments. Remove shutters and small glass area and replace with large glass area - Several alternatives were suggested by the Committee members and applicant was advised to prepare proposal for staff approval. Mr. Charles Knox, Gateway Construction, advised the roof appendage would be of shingles, which was acceptable. INTER COMMISSION NOTES: Member Claudy referred to the City Council minutes and said he would like more content of the discussions held during the meeting. He would like the pros and cons of the discussions to be summarized. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of February 17, 1977: There being no corrections, Member Bond moved to approve minutes as submitted, seconded by Member Claudy. Motion carried, 4-0 Minutes of February 24, 1977: Page 9, last paragraph, replace the word "out" with "how". Moved by Member Bond, seconded by Member Ripplinger, to approve minutes as corrected. Motion carried, 4-0 Minutes of March 10, 1977: Moved by Member Ripplinger, seconded by Member Claudy, to postpone approval of minutes until the next regularly scheduled meeting. Motion carried, 4-0 HC -190 Page 9 Minutes of 2/17/77 approved Minutes of 2/24/77 approved as corrected Minutes of 3/10/77 postponed to 4/7/77 �iC -190 Page 10 MINUTES OF THE MARCH 24, 1977 H -CONTROL MEETING ADJOURNMENT At 10:05 p.m., Member Claudy moved to adjourn to the next regularly scheduled meeting on April 7, 1977. Seconded by Member Ripplinger. ATTEST: /s/ Wm. E. Ryder City Clerk Motion carried, 4-0 APPROVED: /s/ C. Nancy Sallan f'w viLaii woman