HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes - 03-09-1978CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 TORRE AVENUE, CUPERTINO, CA 95014
Telephone: (408) 252-4505
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE
HELD ON MARCH 9, 1978 IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM, ROOM 105, CITY HALL
CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
The meeting was called to order at 6:55 p.m. by Chairperson Claudy
ROLL CALL
Members Present: Ripplinger, Bond, Sallan, Irvine,
Chairperson Claudy
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Mark Caughey, Assistant Planner
INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATION: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of Regular Meeting of February 23, 1978
Member Bond moved and Chairperson Claudy seconded that the minutes
of February 23, 1978 be approved as submitted.
Motion carried, 3-0
Members Ripplinger and Sallan abstaining
POSTPONEMENTS - None
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. Application HC -51,088.19 - Nitron, Inc. requesting approval of site
and architecture for an industrial tank farm located at 10420 Bubb Rd
Mr. Bill Chalmers was present for this application.
Color slides of the site were shown. The intent of the application is
to have all storage tanks enclosed and to open a fire lane which is
presently fenced off. The only Staff suggestions were that landscaping
be added on the south and east sides and that shrubs should be a minimum
five gallon initial size; Mr. Chalmers agreed that this would be desir-
able. Member Sallan suggested that plantings along the chain link fence
with redwood slats the applicant proposes be tall to minimize the view
of the fence. Mr. Chalmers said this would be fine.
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The Central Fire District Office suggested that a condition be made that
fire sprinklers be installed adjacent to the chemical tanks. Mr. Chalmers
noted that he has made accommodation for sprinklers.
Since there were no comments from the audience, Member Sallan moved
and Member Ripplinger seconded that the public hearing be closed.
Motion carried, 5-0
Approval of Member Sallan moved that Application HC -51,088.19 be approved subject
Application to the Standard ASAC conditions 1-8 and conditions 9-12 as follows:
HC -51,088.19 !
9. The recommendation of approval is based upon Exhibits A and B of
this application except as may be amended by special conditions
contained herein.
10. Shrubs to be installed at the tank farm fence periphery to be
minimum five gallon container initial size, planted at 5 to 6 ft.
off -center.
11. Exhibit B is to be modified to change proposed plants along fence
to a type of plant which will achieve a minimum 6' height subject
to Staff approval.
12. The chain link fence on the west exposure to be chain link with
redwood slats.
The motion was seconded by Member Ripplinger.
Motion carried, 5-0
This application will go before the City Council on March 20, 1978.
2. Application HC -51,027.17 - Andrew P. Jara requesting approval of site,
architecutre, landscaping, lighting, grading and signing for a professional
office building located on the south side of Pacifica Drive, east of
De Anza Boulevard.
Mr. Andrew Jara and Mr. Ed Wood were present for this application.
Mr Jara is the architect and Mr. Wood is the landscape architect.
Site
It was suggested that a continuous planter berm in place of concrete
wheel stops be used in the parking area. Member Irvine disagreed with
having landscaping along the building because it would be trampled by
people going into the building. Mr. Jara indicated rnat the o'rien objects
to having autos overhang a planter area because of possible drips from
radiators or cars being wetted by sprinklers or damaging sprinkler heads.
Mr. Wood said there will be oleander along the outer edge of the parking
area. Chairperson Claudy asked about the existence of an asphalt berm at
the extreme western boundary. Mr Jara said the service station has an
asphalt berm there. There will also be a concrete berm put in by the applicant.
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Member Sallan noted that in the prelinary review of the application,
the ASAC had expressed its opinion against a dead-end parking lot.
She noted that if the lot was full, a motorist would have to back out
of the lot onto the street because of lack of turn -around space.
Mr. Jara stated he feels there is adequate space for a hammerhead turn
for cars backing out of a parking space. He has allowed 30 ft.
Member Bond asked if the applicant meets the minimum parking requirement
and suggested that if there are extra spaces, these could be marked no
parking so that there would be more turnaround space. Mr. Caughey
noted that this applicant has one parking space for every 188 sq. ft. of
office space. The town center standard has been established at 1 for 200
Mr. Jara noted that he does not feel the turnaround will be a problem
except in rare cases, when the lot is completely full. He indicated
that the town center parking is rarely full and that this building would
be professional offices with less traffic turnover than a commercial
area. $e would like to have the extra spaces for parking as proposed.
Member Sallan noted that there is a 25' setback requirement which the
applicant meets, and asked about the rear property setback. She suggest
that if there is enough room, a one lane driveway be built. Mr. Caughey
answered that there is a 20' setback from the rear wall of the building.
Chairperson Claudy asked for a poll of the Committee as to whether the
Members would deny the application because of the dead end parking
situation. He noted that the Planning Commission must approve the site
layout and this was done. It was also approved by the City Council.
This Committee cannot make a condition reversing this. The application,
if denied, would have to go back to the Planning Commission, or the City
Council could overturn the ASAC denial.
Member Irvine asked if the applic nt would consider. a continuance in or-
der to study the parking area. He suggested. that the parking could be
grouped together to provide a loop for traffic and the building could
be moved to one side.. Mr. Jara disagreed with the idea, noting that
the parking on each side was done to soften the look of a sea of asphalt
and blend in with the architecture of the building. Member Irvine
indicated he was not sure if he would deny the application since both
the Planning, Commission and the City Council have already approved the
concept.
Member Sallan said she would vote to deny the application because of the
importance of smooth traffic flow. She suggested that if Member Irvine's
suggestion about putting the two lots together were implemented, the
lot could be landscaped to get away from a large asphalt expanse.
Member Bond said he would probably vote for denial and that a solution
could probably be worked out.
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Member Ripplinger said there may be an occasional problem with parking,
but that any solution would detract from the architectural concept.
Chairperson Claudy said he would vote for approval of the application.
Mr. Jara proposed putting a 10' drive in the rear of the building.
Member Ripplinger stated that once a decision is made to put in a drive-
way, it would have to be a 2 -way drive because people would use it in
both directions. Mr. Caughey noted that 16' would be needed for a one-
way drive. He feels this is a redesign and the public hearing is not
the place to make this decision. He is not certain this would be
acceptable to the Traffic engineer and suggested a continuance of the
application. Member Sallan agreed with this.
Mr. Jara asked if a condition could be appealed at the City Council
meeting. Chairperson Claudy said that a condition may be appealed
at that level and noted that the applicant can also request an approval
or denial of the ASAC tonight and appeal it to City Council.
Architecture
The Planning Cor'.ission suggested that the applicant attempt to add
more interest to the building elevation. The applicant proposed
adding column/arch relief from plane of the building to create shadow.
He proposed a 2" projection from the wall for arches and columns and
4" for capitals. Staff feels this should be at least 6" and and 9"
respectively, and suggested that these dimensions be specified.
Mr. Jara feels 2" and 4" would be enough shadow. He agreed that 6"
and 9" would create more shadow, but may not be worth the extra cost
if 2" and 4" are adequate. He asked if the extra projection would
reduce the setback. Mr. Caughey said that setback is measured from
the wall and not the projection. Chairperson Claudy and Member Sallan
noted that a little more depth would be desirable. Mr. Jara said
he would not object to making the dimensions 6" and 9".
Staff also suggested adding heavy wood trim casements to th-. window
frames per the applicant's original use permit proposal. Mr. Jara
said he would like to get away from wood because of maintenance
difficulties and different expansion rates which may create voids..
Member Irvine prefers the wood trim.
Staff suggested that the Commi.ttea may wish to discuss adding interest
to the roof design by extending purlins + 1 ft. beyond eaveline.
The applicant said this would be acceptable. The Committee felt
that the extension of the columns would create adequate interest and
that wood trim on window frames would not be necessary.
Landscaping
The Staff suggested the visual interest of the east and west property
lines could be enhanced by intermixing clusters of trees with the
oleander proposed. Mr. Wood said that drought -resistant evergreen
will be interspersed at these boundaries.
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Staff also suggested that the Dodonaea Viscosa proposed for the south
property line should be on 6 to 8' centers. Mr. Wood noted that this
would add two more plants. He noted that the shrubs will achieve a 15'
spread anyway and the two extra will not be needed; however, they can be
installed. He commented that if a drive is put in the area, the question
is academic anyway. He said that the installation of a drive would only
repeat what he is trying to screen out and would only be more concrete,
which he would not like to see.
Staff suggested that the Melaleuca Linarifolia adjacent to the east/
west building elevations be rearranged in informal, less linear patterns.
Mr. Wood noted that the building concept is formal and that the amount
of space available would result in the trees being either too close to
the sidewalk or the eaves of the building if they were staggered.
Member Bond agreed with this and noted that the landscaping arrangement
in the front of the building is less formal. Member Sallan noted she
has no problem with the arrangement proposed.
Staff suggested that the landscape plan be revised to include planters
adjacent to building walkways. Mr. Wood noted that there is a problem
with people walking over the landscaping in this case and damaging plants
and sprinkler heads. Maintenance is a problem and they could not be
seen from the street when cars are parking in the lot anyway. Mr. Wood
also noted that on the east and west boundaries, there will be mulch
between the oleander plants and bubbler sprinklers would be used so cars
won't be sprayed and because the shrubs will become a solid wall later.
Grading/ Drain age
The Public Works Department objects to proposed drainage of a portion of
the parking area across a sidewalk. Mr. Jara said he will do whatever
is necessary to meet the requirements of the Public Works Department.
It was noted that Standard Conditions require concrete berm at back -of -
walk for streetside planting areas. Mr. Jara indicated he was not aware
of this condition but will comply with it.
Lighting
Lighting would be very low key and only to light the walk. The Staff and
Committee Members had no concerns.
Signing
The signing proposed is yellow lettering on a dark wood stain background.
There would be tenants listed on the sign, which has two sides. Member
Ripplinger asked how many tenants there would be. Mr. Jara indicated
there would be 10 at the most. Chairperson Claudy noted that there
could be only 3 on each side of the sign, for a total of 6. He suggested
a directory inside to list tenants and the ground sign used for the building
and address identification only. Mr. Caughey noted that the ordinance
states the intent of signing for professional office districts is to iden-!
tify the office complex itself, but there is nothing which specifically
states tenants may not be listed.
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Member Sallan said she would like to see a sample of the colors for the
sign. Member Bond noted that the signing part of the application would
have to be continued until the color samples were reviewed, and that the
applicant could revise the sign to have only building identification instead
of tenant listings.
Mr. Jara asked if there is any exception to the number of tenants that
can be listed, so that if the sign were redesigned, he could have more
tenant names. Member Sallan said that this would be an exception to the
ordinance and probably would not be approved. Chairperson Claudy read
part of the sign ordinance which permits a ground sign which identifies
by street number and/or name of the group of offices where setback re-
quirements are met. It further states that each tenant may have a directional
sign on the site for pedestrians rather than passing motorists. Chairperson
Claudy feels this is a rule which lists what is acceptable and that tenant
listings on the ground sign would not be acceptable.
The only other concern brought up was one of the trash location. Chair-
person Claudy noted that, although it is out of sight, the dumpster would
have to be moved out into the driveway or parking area in order to be serviced
by the trash collector. The garbage pickup people would not put the
dumpster back into the enclosure and this would have to be done by the
building maintenance people. He further stated that this should be done
so that the dumpster would not end up sitting in the parking lot. He
suggested that the applicant may wish to consider relocating the enclosure.
Since there were no comments from the audience, Member Sallan moved
and Member Irvine seconded that the public hearing be closed.
Motion carried, 5-0
Continuance Member Sallan moved and Member Irvine seconded that Application HC -51,
of Applica- 027.17 be continued to allow the applicant to make necessary revisions.
tion HC -51,
027.17 Motion carried, 5-0
The Committee recessed at 8:25 and reconvened at 8:33.
3. Application HC -51,403.2 - Any Mountain, Ltd. (Eldon R. Hoffman)
requesting modification of signing for a commercial building located
at the southwest corner of the intersection of DeAnza Boulevard and
Mariani Avenue.
Mr. Mark Pettibone & Mr. Tom Motter were present for this application.
Member Bond asked if the previous sign had been approved without a
street number. Mr. Caughey affirmed this, adding that the applicant
wished to do some graphics on the building which would include the
street number.
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Modification to the sign
is that a readerboard will be added and the
dimensions of height and width of the sign would be increased to retain
the correct proportions. Member Ripplinger established that the sign
base would be 3' above sidewalk grade, which would make the overall height
above sidewalk grade 15'.
Mr. Pettibone stated that the readerboard is the smallest one available
and described some of its features.Mr. Motter added that although the
readerboard can do many things, it can be restricted to what the
Committee requires. He noted that the letters are higher than those of
"Any Mountain", but that the stroke is lighter. This, plus the fact
that the words "Any Mountain" are above the readerboard would make the
primary message more prominent. The "Any Mountain" letters are 12" high
and the grid surface of the readerboard is 18" high.
Mr. Pettibone stated that the advertising budget of the store is huge,
and that the owner cannot keep up the volume of advertising he is present
using for long. The readerboard would be advertising over a long period.
Chairperson Claudy noted that not only is the readerboard larger than
the name of the business, but the sign ordinance specifically states
that the purpose of signing is for identification rather than advertising
The readerboard is advertising.
Mr. Motter stated that he has worked closely with the owner and that publi
messages are what he has in mind. Things such as weather and ski conditi ns
would be used. He noted that the readerboard is the smallest one available
and that the only other alternative would be to make the name of the
business larger, which the owner does not wish to do.
Member Sallan stated she would be hard pressed to imagine that even if
the readerboard was to be limited to public service messages, she would
have a hard time justifying the use of the readerboard.
Mr. Motter said the owner feels the readerboard would be good public
relations and encourage patronage. He stated there have been other
readerboards approved in Cupertino, (e.g., Pacific Valley Bank and Vallco
Village) . He said this readerboard is not garish and has a sensor to
control brightness according to the brightness of the day.
Member Irvine said that public announcements would not provide advertisin
or reduce the advertising budget. Chairperson Claudy noted that a messag
flashing on and off would catch a person's eye after they have become
accustomed to seeing the sign. Member Bond stated that the sign seems
to be too massive, that the blue roof of the building catches the motoris s
eye, and that the business has identification without the readerboard.
He stated he would also like to see the street number on the sign.
Since there were no comments from the audience, Member Irvine moved and
Member Sallan seconded that the public hearing be closed.
Motion carried, 5-0
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Denial of
Application
HC -51,403.2
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Member Bond moved and Member Sallan seconded that Application
HC -51,403.2 be denied. A roll call vote was taken.
Ayes: Ripplinger, Bond, Sallan,
Irvine, Chairperson Cl audy .
Mr. Pettibone asked for reasons for denial.
Member Bond: An adequate sign was previously approved. There was
nothing indicated to him that the readerboard is necessary unless
advertising is put on the readerboard, which is prohibited, that
justifies the change of sign.
Chairperson Claudy: The previous sign -is superior. The modification
is a device to attract additional attention to a business that already
by its architectural design and approved signing concept is very
noticeable, and has tremendous customer patronage already.
Member Sallan: The primary sign should be the name of the business,
and anything else must be smaller. In this case the secondary signing
is larger than the business name.
Member Ripplinger: The modification violates the basic purpose of
the sign ordinance, which is business identification. Also, the
proposed modification is more massive and more signing.
Member Sallan added that the reasons are based on the Committee's
interpretation of the sign ordinance.
Mr. Caughey noted that the applicants have the right to appeal this
decision at the City Council level; in this case, a letter of appeal
must be written and received by the City Council within 5 working
days of tonight's meeting.
NOTICE: At this point, Chairperson Claudy announced that no public
hearing will be initiated after 11:00 p.m. If a hearing is in progress
at this time, it will be continued until its conclusion or until midnight,
whichever comes first. The Committee will adjourn at midnight.
4. Application HC -51,449.1 - B.A.S. Homes of Cupertino requesting
approval of landscaping for a residential development located at
Bandley Drive and Greenleaf Drive, Tract 6259.
B.A.S. Homes was represented by Mr. Mike Meter.
Mr. Ed Wood was also present as the landscape architect.
Mr. Caughey commented that a condition of the use permit requires
landscaping and sound wall approval by the ASAC. Member Ripplinger asked
why the area would need a sound wall, since it does not front a major
street. The applicant replied that a redwood or red cedar fence was
originally proposed to give residents of the future development privacy;
however, the Planning Commission and the City Council required a sound
study. The result of the study is that a 6' sound wall is required.
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In response to a question by Member Irvine about the maintenance of
the landscaping, the applicant said that B.A.S. Homes will see that the
plantings have a good start and then the City will take over maintenance
responsibility, which will be paid for by the development. This will be
in effect for 10 years. At that time, the plants should be fully grown
and require minimal maintenance. The homeowners will then be responsible
for its maintenance.
Regarding the Public Works Department's requirement for a meandering
walkway along the frontage of the subdivisions, Mr. Wood noted that this
would create small pockets of landscaping which would be difficult to
maintain; he stated he would rather have a straight walkway along the
street. He stated that if the width of the area was greater (it is 20')
meandering would be effective. He noted that he would recommend a 30'
minimum width for meandering to be effective, which is not the case here.
Member Ripplinger asked why a 25' minimum requirement is not required.
Chairperson Claudy replied that the City Council has made an exception in
this case. Mr. Caughey noted that a meandering walkway to the north of
the property now exists. Chairperson Claudy noted that this other area
is a business and the business would maintain it. In the application,
the City would have to take care of the landscaping.
Consensus: Members agreed that a meandering sidewalk should not be re-
quired for the following reasons: 1) The Planning Commission approved a
cutback in the setback requirement from 25' to 20'; a meandering walk in
the smaller area would create pockets of landscaping which would be more
difficult to maintain; 2)The lot was originally intended to be commercial
instead of residential, so the maintenance of the landscaping will be
done by the City rather than a commercial business; and 3) The street in
this area does meander already.
Regarding the type of plants to be installed, Mr. Wood noted that redwood,;
Cyanothus, and other planted material will be planted. The wall has a
sandcast finish and get an undulating effect. The color will be the
color of Santa Cruz sand rather than white. With the landscaping in front,
the fence should fade away in perception.
Since there were no comments from the audience, Member Sallan moved and
Member Irvine seconded that the public hearing be closed.
the Approval of
'Application
j HC -51,449.1
Motion carried, 5 -0
Member Bond moved that Application HC -51,449.1 be approved subject to
Standard ASAC conditions 1-8 and conditions 9 and 10 as follows:
9. The recommendation of approval is based upon Exhibits B and C of
this application except as may be amended by special conditions
contained herein.
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10. The proposed sound control barrier shall be constructed per
specifications contained on Pages 10 and 11 of the Project Acoustical;
Report of Edward L. Pack Associates dated January 30, 1978. Grade
breaks for said sound barrier shall not exceed 6 inches vertical
difference between top of wall for adjoining sections and shall be
as few in number as permitted by proper engineering practice.
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The motion was seconded by Member Irvine.
Motion carried, 4-1
Member Ripplinger dissenting
Member Bond noted that the Committee as a group feels that a sound
wall is not in the interest of the people of Cupertino.
5. Application HC -51,441.1 - B.A.S. Homes, Inc. requesting approval of
sound barrier architecture and landscaping for a residential develop-
ment located adjacent to and westerly of Foothill Boulevard opposite
the intersection of Alpine Drive and Foothill Boulevard.
The same applicants were present for this application as for the
previous application.
Member Sallan proposed that the sound barrier architecture and positioning
be considered before the landscaping since the landscaping plan would
the Members and applicants had no abjection.
depend on wall position. Members .-....+applicants
applicant noted that since the grading of the site is extremely
varied (there is a drop o'f- at least 30-35 ft from one end to the other)
the positioning of the wall was very carefully considered so as to
save as many trees as possible. Chairperson Claudy commented that
one end of the site Ls above the level of the road, whereas the other
end is below the level of the road.
Landscaping and wall positioning near Lots 20 and 21 were of the most
concern. Mr. Wood commented that the original plan had 40' of land-
scaping at this corner and the wall was positioned differently. After
studying the grade at this point, it was decided to bring the wall closer
to the road (an extension of Alpine Drive) and parallel to it. If left
in the original configuration, the wall would either be slanting up at
an odd angle, or have many jagged grade breaks. The entrance to the
site was narrowed to give an impression of separation from the outside.
The south side of the entrance also has a low wall to balance the effect
of the high 8' wall on the north side. The landscaping was reduced
on the east boundary of lots 20 and 21 to give the resident more space.
Committee Members objected to the reduction in landscaping in this
area from 40' to only 3'. Mr. Wood proposed re -positioning the wall
so as to allow 10' of landscaping east of lot 20.
Member Sallan asked if there would be any two-story homes along Foothill.
The applicant indicated that lots 20-25 would be split level homes be-
cause of the grade drop in front of the homes. The view from Foothill
would be as if they were one-story homes. All five homes in lots 1-5
will be one-story also. He noted that the sound engineer laid out the
design of the soundwall heights so that sound would be above the level
of the house windows. Mr. Caughey noted that the wall configuration was
approved by the Planning Commission and the Committee should give findings
if the configuration is to be changed. Member Sallansaid d she would like
to have a drawing of the original configuration; how high the wall would
be and how the deviation would make it more aesthetically pleasing.
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The applicant said that Mr. Wood is constrained by some other things, also
The grading and position of the wall is not really considered in detail
until after the preliminary drawing is submitted. The original position
of the wall is not practical.. Member Sallan suggested that the wall
portion of the application be continued until the applicant can present
the original plan along with the modification.
Member Bond agreed with Mr. Wood regarding the repositioning of the wall
near the entrance to the site; however he questioned giving up 40' of
landscaping for 10'. •The 10' may not be adequate screening of the wall.
Member Sallan commented that the issue is the depth of landscaping. There
is a large discrepancy between the original plan and that now proposed,
and also from one end of the site to the other. She asked if 30' could
be used. Chairperson Claudy asked to see a rendering of the 10' setback.
Mr. Wood replied that the original plan was conceptual in nature and that
details are not decided at that point.
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Mr. Caughey noted that one reason Staff considers the alignment of the
wall as set by the original plan is condition 17 of the use permit.
The applicant said his interpretation of this condition was that as many
trees as possible should be saved. Mr. Caughey suggested that a continua ce
is in order to clear up the interpretation of this condition.
Member Irvine noted that the Committee does not have a grading plan;
without this, he continued the configuration of the wall on the corner
in question cannot be adequately addressed. He noted that the drawing
originally submitted notes that the plan.is for use permit application
and sound findings, which implies it's not final.
Mr. Wood noted that another reason for moving the wall closer to the
street is that the lots drop sharply. In order to meet the sound barrier
requirements, the wall would have to be 12' to 15' high. In the current
proposal, the wall is placed at the top of the slope, which makes for a
lower wall. Chairperson Claudy noted that a 12' to 15' wall would be
much too high.
Member Sallan questioned the procedure if the Committee were to approve
a deviation so different from the original plan; would the application
have to go back to the Planning Commission. He asked if the Committee
and applicant would be comfortable with a continuance so that Staff
could get together with the applicant to work out a solution. He asked
what the Committee would accept.
`_ember Ripplinger stated that a problem of grading exists. The applican
is limited because the City Council and Planning Commission also want to
have as many trees as possible saved.
Member Sallan said she would like to have the application continued to
allow Staff and the applicant to develop a plan; the Committee would t:
view this plan vs. the applicant's proposal. She noted she is not un-
comfortable with the 10' landscaping but she is not comfortable with a
30' deviation from the original proposal either.
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Approval of
Application
HC -51,441.1
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Chairperson Claudy asked what the maximum deviation from the applicant's
plan is that the Committee will accept so that the applicant does not have
to come back to the Committee. Mr. Wood asked if there could be approval
with the condition of working with staff to come to a solution.
Regarding landscaping, Chairperson Claudy asked how erosion would be
controlled. Mr. Wood said that hydro seeding of wildflowers would
be used, but that it also depends on when the planting is done. If
it rains heavily, no amount of seeding is going to hold. Natural trees
to the area will be planted. Live oak will be planted, which is similar
to the natural scrub oak. He asked that Staff's recommendation of a 5 -
gallon minimum for shrubs be changed to 1 gallon. A larger basin would
have to be dug for 5 gallon shrubs, which would be more likely to cause
siltation. Also, the smaller plants would adapt to the area more
quickly, since they have not been raised in ideal conditions as long as
a 5 gallon shrub. Trees would be 5 -gallon minimum.
Mr. Wood showed slides of the proposed wall and material and of typical
plants for the area. The wall is stone and will look natural even 15'
away from the curb, since native plant material will be used. He would
feel comfortable with .a setback of 15'. The Committee members expressed
enthusiasm for the rustic look of the wall.
Chairperson Claudy expressed agreement with the number of plants and
species chosen. Member Bond and Member Ripplinger saidthey would
approve a 15' setback with the proposed stone wall. Member Bond commented
that he agreed with Mr. Wood's reasoning regarding using 1 gallon vs.
5 gallon shrubs.
Since there were no comments from the audience, Member Bond moved and
Member Ripplinger seconded that the public hearing be closed.
Motion carried, 5-0
Member Bond moved that Application HC -51,441.1 be approved subject
to the Standard ASAC conditions 1-8 and conditions 9, 10 and 11 as
follows:
9. The recommendation of approval is based upon Exhibit C of this
application except as may be amended by special conditions contained
herein.
10. That the applicant work with Staff on the final location of the
sound wall on lots 20 and 21, with a minimum of 15' curb to wall.
11. The sound wall shall be of stone subject to staff approval.
The motion was seconded by Member Ripplinger.
Motion carried, 5-0
Mr. Caughey asked that the minutes reflect that Staff has the right
to refer this application, prior to issuance of building permits, to any
of the decision making bodies if there are problems that need to be re-
solved.
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6. Application 92,008.1 - City of Cupertino requesting approval of
site, architecture, landscaping and grading for the Senior Citizen
Center located in Memorial Park.
Mr. Merle Butler, Department of Parks and Recreation, and Mr. Rex Morton,
architect were present for this application.
Mr. Butler noted that the City would like to break ground in June so that
the Center is completed by Christmas.
Mr. Morton presented the ,proposal to the Committee. He said he is not
sure if the community center indicated in the proposal will go in or not.;
Presently, the Senior Citizen Center is the only structure definitely
planned. The building is 5500 sq. ft. in size. It has not been determined
if the existing center will be removed or not.
The architecture of the proposed building will be in the mission style,
to blend in with the styles of De Anza College across Stevens Creek Blvd.,
and the Sandpiper restaurant across Mary. There will be a depressed
courtyard to the rear of the building. A wall around this area would
be 4 1/2' above sidewalk level on Stevens Creek and 7 1/2' on the inside.,
The top of this wall would be planted, as would a strip at the bottom of
the wall.
Restrooms would be attached to the building but would have no indoor
communication with it. Double doors on one side are because one door is
to the restroom and the other is to a janitor's area.
Site
Staff had a concern about a trash disposal area. Mr.Morton indicated
that the trash would have to be stored inside the center and picked up
from there. Mr. Butler indicated there are currently 2 trash dumpsters
in the park. He suggested that one of them be brought near the center.
Chairperson Claudy noted that it would be required to screen the dumpster:.
Mr. Morton said there are 42 parking stalls, one of which is a handicapped
stall. Chairperson Claudy commented that there should be more than one
handicapped stall. Mr. Morton answered that most people who are handicapped
are brought and dropped off and would not need the stall all the time.
Mr. Butler said that more handicapped stalls will be designated.
Mr. Martin suggested putting a trash enclosure near the parking lot. He
said there is no room for one behind the building because ramps are built:
there for people to get to the picnic area. Member Sallan suggested
that the location of a screened enclosure for trash be added subject to
Staff approval. Committee members agreed this would be a good solution.
Member Ripplinger asked how many trees would have to come down to make
room for the center. Mr. Martin said 3 avocado trees and one redwood
tree would have to be removed. The redwood is dying and cannot be saved.
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Architecture
Staff noted that the proposal lacks a solution to the concealment of
roof -mounted mechanical equipment. Mr. Morton noted that it had been
thought that residential type equipment would be sufficient. However,
it became apparent that this would not be adequate. The proposal
now is to add a chimney -like structure to the roofline to conceal blower
equipment. All equipment would be concealed and blend in to the roofline.
Staff had a concern about the window accents. Mr. Morton indicated that
wood trim will be added to the windows on the south elevation. Other
concerns were that shutter details are incongruous on this elevation.
This device will be deleted in favor of siding and battens. Battens
will extend to the ground to give a more finished style.
Lighting
It was requested that the same type of standard presently used in the
park be used. The park fixtures are 12' high. The Center fixtures
would be 7' to 8' high. Mr. Butler indicated that the City would like
to standardize fixtures in all parks in Cupertino to make repair and
installation and maintenance easier. The purpose of these fixtures
near the Senior Citizen Center would be to light the area around the
building itself rather than intruding in to the street. Member Sallan
said she would prefer having the pole come out of the ground rather
than from a base. Mr. Martin said this would simplify the design.
Lands c ap in g
Mr. Martin said that the material for the wall to the rear of the picnic
area and facing Stevens Creek Blvd. has been changed from aggregate to
concrete block. He said that with the planting on the top and bottom
of the wall, the wall would be mostly hidden. The reason for the change
was cost. There will be 400' or 500' of wall around this corner.
Member Sallan said that she doesn't feel 2' is a wide enough planter strip
along the bottom of the wall. Her concern is that plants may not grow well
in a 2' planter strip. She recommended 3' minimum, 5' maximum for the strip.
A concern was raised regarding the composition of the wall by Member
Sallan. It was agreed that the outside of the wall would be aggregate
and the inside would be concrete block. Mr. Morton agreed that it would
not be inappropriate to have different materials on each side.
Mr. Morton stated he would like to have as much room as possible in the
inside picnic area. The patio surface is about 40', -at its deepest point.
Therefore, he would like to leave the planter strip at 2'. Chairperson
Claudy asked what type of plant would be planted there. Mr. Morton
indicated that ivy would be planted in this area. Member Bond added that
the extra foot or planter may just become a wider trash collector. Member
Ripplinger said he does not think 3' are needed for ivy.
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It was decided that the 2' planter strip would be acceptable since there
will be planting on top of the wall also.
Member Ripplinger asked if the grass will be mounded. Member Sallan added
that shrubs should be added to the periphery of the parking lot. Mr.
Butler indicated that the Sheriff's Department does not want mounding or
shrubs over 3' because it would hamper a view of the park.
Since there were no comments from the audience, Member Sallan moved and
Member Bond seconded that the public hearing be closed.
Motion Carried, 5-0
Member Sallan moved that Application 92,008.1 be approved subject to the
Standard ASAC conditions 1-8 and conditions 9-15 as follows:
9. The recommendation of approval is based upon Exhibits A, B, 81, B2, C,j
and E of this application except as may be amended by special condi-
tions contained herein.
10. Window details to be modified per Section II B 4 of the Staff report
of March 9, 1978.
11. Final selection and placement of lighting fixtures shall preclude
off -site intrusion impacts and shall be resolved by staff prior to
issuance of building permits.
12. An enclosed trash disposal area is to be designed and located in an
appropriate place subject to staff approval.
13. Landscaping shall,.be. added in the form of shrubbery along the parking
area, the choice and positioning of same to be subject to Staff
approval.
14. Regarding the wall facing Stevens Creek Blvd. and Mary Avenue, the
side facing the two streets is to be aggregate. The inside of the
wall may be concrete block.
15. Additional handicapped stalls shall be provided subject to staff
review and approval.
The motion was seconded by Member Bond.
Motion carried, 5-0
7. Application HC -51,150.21 - De Anza Racquet Club requesting modification
to approved landscaping plan for the tennis court and swimming pool
areas .
Mr. Alex Tchalemian and Mr. Ralph Saich were present for this application.
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Mr. Tchalemian noted that the basic purpose of the modification is
to provide more screening for the recreation area and to more closely
relate the landscaping plan with that of De Anza College. The new
proposal would also reduce the use of water and provide more of a sound
barrier against traffic.
Perimeter olive trees which were originally proposed will be replaced
by redwood and cedar. These would achieve desired screening and a faster
growth rate than the olive trees. In the median walk area between courts,
the planter has been eliminated in favor of potted plants to avoid water
from the planter undermining tennis courts.
NOTE: Member Bond left the meeting at this point. (11:52 p.m.).
Plantings along the back wall were originally to be 1 row of Hollywood
Junipers. This will be interspersed with evergreens and another plant,
which will grow to a height of 6'.
The trellis proposed in the original plan for the front of the building
will be deleted. The applicant will substitute pines, ground cover, and
mounding. The original purpose of the trellis area was to protect people
waiting for a bus. The Transit District has now decided to relocate the
bus shelter so the trellis is not needed.
Mr. Tchalemian noted that landscaping in all areas would be increased.
Chairperson Claudy asked if this would hide the objectionable (in his
opinion) tennis court screen. Mr. Saich confirmed that it would.
Mr. Tchalemian added that ground cover has been changed to dwarf coyote
bush, which is more drought tolerant than the originally proposed plants.
The Committee had no concerns. Since there were no comments from the
audience, Member Sallan moved and Member Irvine seconded that the public
hearing be closed.
Motion carried,, 4-0
Member Sallan moved that Applicat_iot: HC -51,150.21 be approved subject
to the standard ASAC conditions 1-8 and conditions 9-11 as follows:
9. The recommendation of approval is based upon Exhibit C 2nd Revision
Sheets 1, 2 and 3 of this application except as may be amended by
special conditions contained herein.
10. Landscaping approvals granted under Resolution No. 543 shall remain
in effect except where specifically superceded by provisions of
this resolution.
11. Prior to installation of the approved landscape plan, the applicants
shall obtain staff approval for planter areas adjacent to the tennis
court walkway network. If an acceptable solution cannot be achieved,
staff shall refer the matter to the Architectural and Site Approval
Committee for final disposition.
Motion carried, 4-0
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS
The consideration of rewording of standard ASAC condition No. 8 was
postponed due to the lateness of the hour.
NEW BUSINESS
Member Sallan has proposed a presentation on drip emmiters for next mee
INTER COMMISSION NOTES
None
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 12 midnight until the next regular meeting
of March 23, 1978 at 7:00 p.m.
APPROVED:
Is/ John Claudy
Chairman
ATTEST:
Is/ Wm. E. Ryder
City Clerk
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