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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE
HELD ON OCTOBER 7, 1976, IN THE LIBRARY CONFERENCE ROOM
CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
Chairperson Sallan called the meeting to order at 7:07 PM with
the Salute to the Flag.
ELECTION OF VICE —CHAIRPERSON
Since it was anticipated that Member Irvine would be coming to th
meeting later, Chairperson Sallan put this matter over to the end
of the meeting.
ROLL CALL
Comm. present: Bond, Claudy, Irvine (9:40), Ripplinger,
Chairperson Sallan
Comm. absent: None
Staff present: Senior Planning Technician Mark Caughey
INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS
There were none on this date.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of Regular Meeting of September 23, 1976:
Page 1, paragraph 3, second line. After the words "last meeting"
add: "She extended congratulations to Mrs. Blaine on behalf of
the Committee." Delete the word "and" at the end of the second
line.
Page 5, paragraph 4, second line. Add "After some discussion,"
just before "Mr. Appleberry".
Page 6, paragraph 5, fourth line: Change "plan" to "play"
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9/23/76 Minutes
approved
MINUTES OF OCTOBER 7, 1976, H -CONTROL MEETING
Page 7, third paragraph, second sentence should read: "He believes .
whether or not this setback is less than the City Council wishes." Line 7
should read: ". . .worked in Member Bond's back yard, as it . . . . yard."
Last line on the page should read: "This motion was dropped and the second
was withdrawn."
Page 8, first paragraph, line 7: Delete "or shrubs".
Page 11, item 3 should read: "The Director . . . . .system has been removed
from the list." Delete the entire paragraph following Item 5, which is
just above ADJOURNMENT.
Moved by Member Bond, seconded by Member Ripplinger, to approve the
Minutes of September 23, 1976, as corrected.
Motion carried. 4-0
POSTPONEMENT S
The Senior Planning Technician stated the applicant for agenda item 5
(HC -51,043.1) was not ready for his public hearing. This item was
postponed to the next regular meeting.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
A. USA Petrolium sent to City Hall a site plan and elevations to be
presented to this Committee. They would like to know whether or
not this Committee would like to review their proposed changes to
their plans or if the Committee feels the staff can handle it.
The Senior Planning Technician pointed out that perhaps this should
also go back to the Planning Commission for review. After dis-
cussion, the Committee indicated they would like to review any
new plans.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairperson Sallan announced that no new items would be initiated at
this meeting after 11:00 AM, and the meeting would conclude at 12
midnight, if not earlier.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. Application HC 51,395.1 - May Investment Company (Stocklmeir
Property) requesting approval of landscaping and lighting
for a 28 single-family cluster residential development locates
at the southeast corner of the intersection of Stevens Creek
Blvd. and Scenic Blvd. Continued from H -Control meeting of
September 8, 1976.
The Senior Planning Technician showed colored slides of the pro-
perty to familiarize everyone with the area.
Chairperson Sallan said, rather than discuss the entire project
again, the Committee should concentrate on the problem areas.
Architect Rodger Griffin, 3238 McKinley., Santa Clara, in ref erenci
to the notation in the October 4th staff report, stated that
a pathway from Scenic Blvd. through the proposed Manzanita ground
cover will be indicated on the revised landscaping plan.
The staff felt a ground cover with more color interest than Hahns.
Ivy might be substituted for Lots 15 through 24. The Senior
Planning Technician stated the City Manager has indicated he
would like to see some type of thorny material such as pyracantha
planted along the property line adjacent to the Stocklmeir pro-
perty to discourage trespassing.
The Senior Planning Technician stated the staff would like to
discuss fence material along the east property line. Mr. Griffin
to the recommended rail -type fence as long as it is something
substantial and will hold up while the plants are getting estab-
lished.
Mr. Griffin stated the putting green will only be on the west
side of the common green, between Lots 6, and 7.
Comm. Ripplinger asked whose responsibility it would be to
maintain the pyracantha along Mr. St.ocklmeir's property line.
Mr. Griffith said Mr. Stocklmeir, is going to continue farming,
so he will not allow the pyracantha to spread onto his property.
This will all be worked out amicably.
Member Claudy said he does not see a rail fence as a barrier.
Mr. Griffin said it will be more of a psychological barrier than
a security -type fence. He would prefer to not cut off the view.
The Senior Planning Technician introduced the booklet prepared by.
the Santa Clara County Water District regarding native plants.
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Mr. Griffin said he would like the fronts of the homes to have more
formal landscaping than the natural approach. There will be a lot of
natural vegetation in the transition area near the creek.
Mr. Griffin agreed with the staff's suggestion to stagger the street
trees. And a pedestrian access from Scenic Blvd. will be provided.
Member Claudy suggested some pedestrian circulation be provided above
and along the flood 'plain as well as pyracantha. Mr. Griffin explained
their plan for hydroseeing the area.
The staff had a suggestion for access to the pool area from the cul-de-sac.
Mr. Griffin pointed out on the plans how they have increased their plant-
ing area around the recreation building.
Lighting was discussed next. There will be post lighting around the
recreation building as well as lamps along the top of the slumpstone
wall. The pool will be 20' x 40', and the recreation building will be
60' x 80'.
Mr. Griffin was asked to submit an inventory of the trees.
Mr. Griffin was asked to replace the Hahns Ivy with Copper King Gazania.
Mr. Griffin asked for, and received the Committee's permission to
remove 2 of the 3 benches indicated in the plans for the green area.
It was noted that Trilla Mogensen is the landscape architect for this
project.
Member Ripplinger said he was still concerned about maintenance of
the pyracantha Mr.Griffin said it will be maintained by the Homeowners'
Association.
On Exhibit L 3A, the staff is concerned about the large, yellow area.
They would like the addition of some trees. Member Claudy said he
would like to see some trees scattered within the large, mustard -colored
area. The Senior Planning Technician suggested a pedestrian access
through this area for people who would like to enjoy the wild, flowers
on their way to the pool.
Chairperson Sallan suggested the landscape architect consider making
some minor modifications in light of the discussion at this meeting,
and to work it out with the staff.
The Senior Planning Technician noted the Fire Marshal requires a
fire break behind lots 25 through 28.
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Mr. Griffin said they would like to stay away from grapestake
fence and would like to go with a combination of wood and slump
stone along the'rear property line. The Committee agreed to this
Mr. Griffin said the proposed light fixtures for the common area
are redwood, like those currently being put in the project at
Stelling and Stevens Creek Blvd. They will 'use.-round•globes with
black metal base as general illumination and path lights. In no.
case do the lights interfere with the residences. They will star
with 75 watts, and will either raise or lower the wattage, de—
pending upon requirement. There will be some street lighting
along Scenic Drive, since this is a public street.
Since there were no questions or. comments frem the audience, it
was moveby Member Bond, seconded by Member Claudy, to close the
public hearing.
Motion carried-, 4-0
Moved by Member Bond, seconded 'y '"e -^b -r C'.laudy t^ approve
application HC -51,395.1, subject to the 14 standard conditions
with the following additions: Condition 15. The Grass area
on Exhibit L 1A, the putting green will be on the westerly end
only, and the developer is to provide access in this area from
Scenic Blvd. Condition 16. A fence at the property line to the
east of the development is to have a growth of a planting to be
approved by the staff. Cbndition 17. The maintenance of the
plantings along this fence to be maintained by the development.
Condition 18. The street trees on the entire project are to be
staggered in their setback from the street. Condition 19. The
developer is to inventory all existing trees, identifying those
that will remain and those that will be removed, and shall
indicate the method to be used to protect the trees that are to
be saved. Condition 20. The alternate for osteospermun, which
is Gazania Copper King, shall be use. Condition 21. The Develop
shall provide a minimim width fire break along units 25 - 28.
Condition 22. There shall be one bench instead of three adjacent
to lot 12.
AYES: Members Bond, Claudy, Ripplinger, Chairperson Sallan
NOES: None
ABSENT: Member Irvine
Motion carried, 4-0
The staff was asked to get, if possible, copies for the Committee
of "The Landscaping Guide to Native and Natural Plants for Santa
Clara County".
Recess was called at 8:20 PM, with the meeting reconvening at
8:30 PM.
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2. Application HC -51,403.1 - Any Mountain, Ltd. (Eldon R. Hoffman)
requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading,
lighting and signing for a commercial building located at the
southwest corner of the intersection of North De Anza Blvd. and
Mariani Drive.
Architect Cliff Peterson, 16298 Oleander, Los Gatos, said he was re-
presenting the applicant.
The Senior Planning Technician showed colored slides of the area under
discussion, and related the slides to the proposed site plan for this
property. The trees on the property were identified. He then
reviewed the staff report. The 25' average buffer along the major
street was the predominent problem to be resolved. The Planning
Commission determined this requirement is a part of the zoning.
Mr. Peterson then explained the changes to the site plan they have
pr.oposed_to achieve this 25' average buffer. It was decided to put
compact parking along the west property line and to eliminate those
few parking spaces at the corner of De Anza Blvd. and Mariani Drive.
Chairperson Sallan was concerned that the averaging approach will
not provide the 25' landscaped buffer along Mariani Drive. Member
Ripplinger noted that at one point, the plan only calls for a 9' width.
The Senior Planning Technician read the guidelines. The Committee
noted that the guidelines specifically call for a 25' width, and there
was no mention of averaging. This presented the possibility of a
design change of the building, which the Committee felt would be a real
shame. Chairperson Sallan suggested this proposal could be sent to
the Planning Commission with these concerns. If the Planning Commission
wants to go with the averaging concept, or some other concept, then
the guidelines should be modified to reflect this.
This Committee was willing to go with the 15' setback along Mariani
Drive,with 10 of the feet to be landscaped. If the Planning Commission
wants to approve this and send it on to the City Council, the H -Control
Committee indicated they would go along with this.
The applicant said he would modify the landscape plan to put the maximum
amount of landscaping along Mariani Drive. It was noted 10 bicycle
parking spaces will have to be added.
The Planning Commission added a condition whereby in the future, if
parking becomes a problem, the Planning Commission will review the
use permit.
The transit turnout has been reviewed by the City Traffic Engineer, who
found no problem with the proposal.
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Member Claudy brought up the question of whether or not it would
be in order for this Committee to review plans for all bus stops
planned for within the City of Cupertino by the County Transit
District. Chairperson Sallan would like this Committee to offer
guidelines.
Member Bond said he was very much in favor of Exhibit B and the
proposed color chips, as far as the architecture is concerned.
Member Irvine arrived at the meeting at this point.
It was decided the site and landscaping decisions could not be
made by this Committee at this meeting.
The lighting proposal exhibit was reviewed and approved. There
will be no lighting intrusion into neighboring property. Member
Ripplinger was concerned that perhaps the parking lot was too
dimly lit. It was decided the fixtures were acceptable, and --
the light coverage shall be reviewed by the staff.
Signs were reviewed next. The architect said the sign will be
externally lit. The color chips for the proposed sign were
reviewed. Architect Petersen said the mystical colors orange,
purple and blue mean a lot to Bud Hoffman. The white background
is opaque plastic and the sign will be lit externally. The
Committee indicated the white background of the sign should be
toned down somewhat. The white of the sign will match the white
of the building.
Since there were no comments from the audience, it was moved by
Member Claudy, seconded by Member Bond to close the public
hearing.
Motion carried, 5-0
Moved by Member Claudy, seconded by Member Bond to approve
the bicycle parking, architecture, grading, lighting and signing
portions of application HC -51,403.1, subject to the standard
H -Control conditions with the following conditions added:
Ten bicycle parking spaces shall be provided in the vicinity of
the entrance to the store. The applicant will cooperate with the
County Transit District as to the development of the bus shelter
on De Anza Blvd. The lighting fixtures in the parking lot will
be checked and approved by the staff as to coverage of the
lighting. Site, parking, setbacks and landscaping shall be
continued, pending findings of the Planning Commission relevant
to these items.
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HC -51,299.4
change of copy
approved
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Chairperson Sallan said the De Anza Blvd. theme must still be addressed,
also.
AYES: Members Bond, Claudy, Irvine, Ripplinger, Chairperson Sallan
NOES: None
Motion carried, 5-0
3. Application HC -51,299.4 - California Good Earth, Inc., requesting
approval of a sign program for a restaurant facility located on
the north side of Stevens Creek Blvd., west of Saich Way.
Continued from H -Control meeting of September 23, 1976.
Mr. Murray Horton, 20813 Stevens Creek Blvd., Cupertino, stated they
have revised their application to be a change of copy of signs in
their present locations. The reasons they are not now planning to
move the signs to the southwest corner of the fascia are time and
cost.
The proposed color chips were placed on the lighted display board
provided by the Senior Planning Technician.
There was some discussion about whether or not the background should
be brown or light tan. The Committee preferred #815 background and
lettering with ivory surrounding the lettering. Mr. Horton was told
he could go to the #815 brown or the darker brown.
Chairperson Sallan asked for comments from the audience. There were
none.
Moved by Member Claudy, seconded by Member Irvine to close the public
hearing.
Motion carried, 5-0
Moved by Member Claudy, seconded by Member Irvine, to approve the change
of copy request under application HC -51,299.4, subject to the H -Control
standard conditions. The colors to be in accordance with "#F", with
the except16n that the background shall be #815 and the words "Good
Earth" brown portion shall be #815 or some darker brown color that
transmits light. The final approval of a color other than #815 but in
the same color tone shall be subject to the staff's approval. The approval
is for change of copy of existing signs.
Motion carried, 5-0
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4. Application HC -51,391.1 - B.A.S. Homes, Inc. (McKay & Somps)
requesting approval of architecture for 39 —unit, single—famil;
subdivision, located easterly and adjacent to North De Anza
Blvd. approximately 625 feet northerly of the intersection of
Stevens Creek Blvd. and North De Anza Blvd.
The Senior Planning Technician stated this project straddles
Lazeneo Avenue, with 54 units on the north side and 49 units on
the south side. Collins Junior High School is the adjacent
property to the east. The staff is concerned with this project's
interfacing with the Sobrato—Berg project to the north. Colors
and fence capping materials should be reviewed at this meeting.
Member Claudy is concerned that Resolution 647, Condition #9
requiring change in fence height must occur at lot lines may be
difficult to achieve, since this fence is in panels. Mr. Ray
Scholz explained this change in elevation factor is no problem
to them.
Color chips were presented by the applicant. Columns arc dark
brown. There is no wood on this wall. It is very similar to the
wall by the Memorial Park at Stelling and Stevens Creek Blvd.
Mr. Scholz, 1378 Country Club Drive, Los Altos, said the colors
are good latex paint and will not fade.
Members Claudy, Irvine and Ripplinger said they liked the dark
columns. Member Bond said he had no strong feelings about this.
Chairperson Sallan said she would have preferred somewhat lighter
brown columns.
The applicant will return another time to discuss landscaping.
Since there were no comments from the audience, it was moved by
Member Claudy, seconded by Member Bond to close the public hear
Motion carried, 5-0
Moved by Member Bond, seconded by Member Claudy to approve appli-
cation HC -51,391.1, subject to the standard H -Control conditions
with a change to Condition 9 of Resolution 647 deleting "shall
occur only at lot lines and". The color of the vertical columns
to be oxford brown and the slump stone facing De Anza Blvd. shall
be sandpebble. The staff shall assume responsibility to coordi-
nate design with Sobrato-Berg sound wall to insure a continuity
of finish and texture treatment is maintained in lots 8 and 47
of this project.
Motion carried, 5-0
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HC -51,391.1
part ially
approved
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Member Bond is
now Vice -Ch.
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Recess was called by Chairperson Sallan at 10:50 pm. The meeting
reconvened at 10:55 pm.
5. Application HC -51,043.1 was continued earlier in the evening
to the next regular meeting.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
ELECTION OF VICE -CHAIRPERSON
Member Claudy nominated Member Irvine for the Office of Vice -Chairperson.
Member Irvine declined because he cannot at this time give the Office the
attention needed.
Member Ripplinger nominated Member Bond for the Office of Vice -Chairperson,
with Member Claudy seconding the nomination.
AYES: Members Claudy,
NOES: None
ABSTAINED: Member Bond
MINUTE ORDER PROPOSED:
Irvine, Ripplinger, Chairperson Sallan
Motion carried, 4-0-1
In regard to the Any Mountain proposal, this Committee feels the need
for direction in dealing with the conceptual landscape guidelines
for that entire quadrant of the City, a determination of whether or not
this is an absolute number of feet for setback or an average number.
If it is an averaging approach, the guidelines need to be reworded,
including a maximum encroachment and maximum distance for including
the average. The bus turnout design needs to be established for the
entire City. The 50' landscaping frontage policy needs to be established
whether it should be grass or ground cover. This Committee would like
to input this item.
It was reported by Chairperson Sallan that at the previous Mayor's
Luncheon Counc. Nellis asked this Committee to factor in the water con-
servation and maintenance costs as to the 50' buffer along De Anza Blvd.
Ground cover is less expensive and requires less water. Aesthetically,
the Committee feels that grass would be better for this entrance into
our City. This is one-half mile long. This Committee recognized the
unique factors that exist here, but did not have the data regarding how
much water would be required and how much will be available. Chairperson
Sallan felt that data should be provided on lists but that aesthetics
should be the primary value in selection of materials.
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Member Irvine called attention to the roof rat problem that comes
up when development occurs. When their nests are disturbed they
will move into the ivy.
Member Ripplinger said the dam at Pacheco Pass is scheduled for
completion by 1980-81, so he is not worried about scarcity of
water. Besides, grass is friendly.
Member Irvine said he would also like to have the maintenance
factor of ground cover considered, also. We would have snails,
litter, trimming, weeds and frost to contend with.
Member Ripplinger agreed to attend the next Planning Commission
meeting.
In regard to coordinating of the bus stops along De Anza Blvd.,
Chairperson Sallan would like to have the City contract an
architect to design something compatible. She was saying the
City should take on the responsibility of coordinating the bus
turnout design. for the entire reach of De Anza Blvd. and
possibly for the entire City, and the economics of this project.
This should be in conjunction with the County Transit District.
Chairperson Sallan reported on the Mayor's Luncheon held this
date, which was Chaired by Vice -Mayor Frolich. There was a 40 -
minute discussion on the Appleberry application. The Council
is considering a rear yard setback minimum for one-story homes
of 20 feet or 20% of the lot depth, whichever is greater. If it
is a two-story home, you would have to add 10 feet for the second
story. Mr. Appleberry would have to conform to about a 35'
setback. Vice -Mayor Frolich commented that there is too much
building mass for this size property and perhaps rezoning of this
property is in order. A page of criteria has been developed for
R3 Cluster. R1 two-story situations are not in the same con-
figuration; e.g., no half -balconies. The Council is going to be
thinking about some flexibility.
Member Irvine said he was disappointed with the Appleberry pro-
posal in that he still had living areas upstairs. He would be
happier to see a townhouse situation on that property, with only
bedrooms in the second story.
Member Claudy called attention to the nonconformance of the Shoe
Fair sign on De Anza Blvd.
The craft store at the Ralph's shopping center has been out of
business for some time now, but their sign still remains.
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Member Bond recommended the City staff check the planting on the Dumas
property, since there is the possibility of nonconformance. This would
determine whether the applicant actually has an unsolvable landscaping
problem.
Chairperson Sallan would like data collected for a sign program study.
Chairperson Sallan would like a staff report on grasscrete for the
October 21st meeting if possible.
NEW BUSINESS: None.
INTER COMMISSION NOTES: None.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Member Bond, seconded by Member Irvine to adjourn this meeting
at 11:30 PM to 7:00 PM, October 21, 1976.
ATTEST:
/s/ Wm. E. Ryder
City Clerk
Motion carried, 5--0
APPROVED:
/s/ C. Nancy Sallan
Chairwoman