HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes - 07-08-1976CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL
COMMITTEE HELD ON JULY 8, 1976, IN THE LIBRARY CONFERENCE ROOM, CITY
HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
The meeting was opened at 7:03 p.m. by Vice Chairwoman Blaine with the
Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Bond, Claudy, Irvine (7:06), Vice Chairwoman Blaine
Members absent: Chairwoman Sallan
Staff present: Senior Planning Technician Mark Caughey
INFORMAL REVIEW OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATION: None',
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of Regular Meeting of June 24, 1976
There being no corrections or additions, Member Bond moved to approve
Minutes of June 24, 1976 as presented. Seconded by Member Claudy.
Motion carried, 2-0-1
Abstain: Blaine
POSTPONEMENTS: None
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: A memo from Councilman O'Keefe relative to
Application HC -51,002.4 was distributed to
committee members and Mr. Appleberry.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Staff member Caughey said Mission Furniture Store was changing hands
and the committee was being asked to informally consider proposed
change of color. There would be no architectural changes. A colored
rendering and samples of material were displayed.
Member Bond moved to tentatively approve color proposed for staff's
final approval. Seconded by Member Claudy.
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Minutes of
6/24/76
approved
Change of
color appro,,
Motion carried, 4-0
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EIC-51, 387.1
Ke-neth P.
Elvin
MINUTES OF THE JULY 8, 1976 H -CONTROL MEETING
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. Application HC -51,387.1 - Kenneth P. Elvin requesting approval
of site, architecture, landscaping and grading for three
duplex units located at Foothill Boulevard and Silver Oak Way.
Staff report: Senior. Planning Technician Caughey reiterated concerns
expressed in staff memo. He referred to a modification to proposed
site plan.
Mr. Kenneth P.. Elvin, 999 Commercial Street, Palo Alto, presented and
explained a revised plan for turn around area. He said he had adjusted
the property line on Lot B so tree falls within one boundary. He said
the landscape plan has been changed to show plants to provide privacy.
He explained grading plan being proposed.
Mr. Elvin said one change was a two story three bedroom plan which
reduced size of building on lot. This gave more privacy to access
of each unit and increased outside living area. He said he would
be willing tame ande r wall,. _but would like t o.=.keep the wall on
property line because of space restrictions. He pointed out the
closer the sound wall was to the street, , the more effective it
would be.
Mr. Elvin said he intented to put in Heavenly Bamboo as landscaping
between the units on .ektreme west- end of -site, and felt -this would screen
the area effectively.
In response to Member Claudy, Mr. Elvin pointed out location of
property lines.
Mr. Elvin questioned the condition requiring -a. 24 ft. driveway since
18 ft. was adequate according to the Fire Marshall. He would like to
increase landscaping area and leave it at 18 ft.
Member Claudy pointed out that Lot C flag is very long and a good
distance from owner. He was concerned about maintenance on the far
end of this flag lot. Mr. Elvin said this could be handled by a
road maintenance agreement. Each owner pays $60.00 a year for
upgrading of road and landscaping. This is put in the deed.
Payment of water bill for this area was discussed.
Vice Chairman Blaine pointed out that the olive trees proposed would be
dropping olives which would increase maintenance. Mr. Elvin said he
would be willing to change to flowering Cherry trees.
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Member Claudy said the concrete wall and fence would be exposed if
something other than ivy was not used. He suggested some shrubs
could be placed intermittently placed along the wall. Mr. Elvin
suggested encouraging the ivy to grow up the wall.
Site: Member Irvine said there was a lot of glass looking out across
to each unit and the Nandino would not screen sufficiently. He said
he felt the original proposal was the better solution.
Mr. Elvin explained the private patios had to be at rear and Mr.
Piasecki had suggested separating units and moving them around so
the backyards would be at rear property line.
Member Irvine felt a bunch of alley ways was being created. Mr.
Elvin offered to move one of the buildings and after discussion, it
was agreed this should be done.
It was ascertained 18 ft. length would be acceptable for the garage
driveway. Member Irvine felt it should be at least 20 ft.
With regard to visual access to unit entrys, Member Claudy pointed
out that sound access should also be considered.
After discussion, it was agreed the driveway should be rerouted
closer to the fence.
Member Bond suggested moving the second building to the front rather
than the back. Mr. Elvin agreed.
With regard to fence along Foothill Boulevard, Member Claudy said he
would like to see some pockets in it. Three panels set in approxi-
mately 2-3 ft. were agreed upon.
Mr. Elvin said he had agreed to put in timed sprinkler system. This
would be included in the road maintenance agreement.
Vice Chairwoman Blaine asked to have the broken fence line explained.
Mr. Elvin said shrubbery would be adequate screening in open sections
and provide interest.
It was ascertained the blank walls had been eliminated.
Architecture: Member Irvine determined there would be a 2 ft. over-
hang on the roof.
Member Irvine questioned alternative proposed for Lot A. Mr. Elvin
said this was not firm; he felt they probably would not go through
with this option.
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ings closed
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Member Irvine ascertained there would be wood siding under the
windows.
Vice Chairman Blaine asked about type of garage door being proposed.
Because of space restriction, she felt a "roll up" type should be used.
Mr. Elvin suggested a separate sliding doors as another possibility.
He would prefer to use the overlapping sliders. It was stressed the
doors should be the type that would not project out.
Mr. Elvin said he would like to use heavy asphalt shingles on the roof
rather than shake. Staff had samples of shingles which were displayed
and discussed.
Mr. Elvin agreed to use the Class A fiber glass Woodlands roof.
Vice Chairman Blaine ascertained all floors would be slab on grade.
Landscaping: Vice Chairwoman Blaine asked about protection of trees
during construction. Mr. Elvin proposed wrapping them with a wire
enclosure. He said there would be no trenching in areas around the
trees.
Mr. Elvin said they would receive a revised plan for Unit A.
Vice Chairwoman Blaine wondered if a light at Arco station would be a
problem to the residents.
Member Irvine felt a revised proposal should be submitted in view of all
the revisions discussed.
Mr. Elvin said he would be working closely with staff and since he had
a time schedule for purchase agreement, he would appreciate a conditional
approval. It was agreed the revised plans could be prepared prior to
presentation of application to City Council. Staff member Caughey asked
for actual configuration on Lot A.
It was agreed to give tentative approval but if there was any problem,
staff should refer it back to this committee.
Lighting: It was agreed several low landscaping lamps should be included
which could also go on the road maintenance agreement.
The meeting was opened to the public for comments. There were none.
Member Irvine moved to close Public Hearings. Seconded by Member Bond.
Motion carried, 4-0
MINUTES OF THE JULY 8, 1976 H -CONTROL MEETING
Member Bond moved for approval of Application HC -51,387.1 with the
standard H -Control conditions and the following conditions:
(1) Proposal to protect trees shown to staff prior to grading.
(2) Landscaping on north wall to be subject to staff review
following rerouting of major driveway.
(3) Option of Unit A is deleted. If developer or purchaser wish
to add option at later date, it must be approved by this
committee.
(4) Class A shingles, colors subject to staff approval.
(5) Three planting pockets on wall facing Foothill Boulevard
subject to staff approval.
(6) Some landscaping on north wall to break the strong, long
expanse of wall, subject to staff approval.
(7) The lamps along major driveway to be below the fence line.
Number and size to be subject to staff approval.
(8) A road maintenance agreement among the owner shall include
the planting on Foothill Boulevard side of wall as well as
the northern side of the major driveway and the lighting.
(9) Join two units on Lot A which would place the driveway to the
north. The final location to be subject to staff approval.
(10) The architecture of the buildings to have approximately 2 ft.
overhand subject to staff approval.
(11) The major driveway redesign is subject to staff approval.
(12) The garage doors will not protrude into the outside parking
lot.
(13) All of these revisions should be approved by staff prior to
presentation to City Council.
Seconded by Member Claudy.
AYES: Members Bond, Claudy, Irvine, Vice Chairwoman Blaine
NOES: None
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It was announced the application would now be heard by the City Council
at its July 19,1976 meeting.
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MINUTES OF THE JULY 8, 1976 H -CONTROL MEETING
2. Application HC -51,218.2 - Gene Pinkston (A & W) requesting approval
of the modification of architecture and landscaping for an existing
restaurant located at the northwest corner of Stevens Creek
Boulevard and Portal Avenue.
Staff report: Mr. Caughey ascertained the committee members had received
copies of Ms. Sallan's comments. He briefly reviewed background situation
on the site.
Slides were shown which contrasted previous and present roof colors and
landscaping. The applicant also distributed photos.
Member Claudy clarified that nothing was specified in the original
proposal with regard to the roof color and use of artificial turf.
Exhibit C 2nd Rev, was displayed.
Mr. Gene Pinkston, 5458 McKee Road, San Jose, said he was not sure a
permit was required since it was a continued use. He had received this
legal opinion. He pointed out that top two rows of tiles on previous
roof were mismatched.
Mr. Pinkston referred to statement that at least one citizen had
indicated concern over color of roof. He said he had pages of
signatures of addresses of people who.approved of this color. These
were displayed. He said the opposition to the roof color was a
matter of personal opinion.
Member Claudy ascertained the tile was a standard clay tile.
Staff member Caughey reported the City Attorney had ruled that changing
the color constituted a major architectural modification and the "City
has said he must have a permit to change color of roof and also land-
scaping material.
Member Bond pointed out he had seen A&W roofs of a more muted orange.
Mr. Pinkston said he had driven around town and seen other buildings
with quite bright colors. He felt the orange roof was pleasing to the eye.
Vice Chairwoman Blaine read Section 3.06 from ordinance
Mr. Pinkston said it was his contention that it was not the painting of the
roof that was under question, it was the color.
Member Irvine pointed out this application had been before the committee
several times and to paint the roof this bright orange was a mistake. It
should have been brought to the attention of the City prior to being done.
He felt it was too strong an orange.
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Member Claudy said he liked orange, but he agreed this shade was too
bright.
Vice Chairwoman Blaine agreed a more muted orange would be better.
Mr. Pinkston admitted that after the roof was painted, he felt the
City would not approve.
His choice of either appealing recommendation to City Council or
reapplying were explained to Mr. Pinkston.
With regard to the artificial turf, Mr. Pinkston displayed a sample of
the turf used. He said this was an expensive material with a guarantee
of 20 years.
Both Members Irvine and Claudy felt it was an attractive covering for
a small area such as on this corner.
Member Irvine cautioned that seams might split and this would have to
be maintained.
Vice Chairwoman Blaine said she had checked the lighting in the parking
lot and this was the brightest light in all of the City. Mr. Pinkston
said they had not installed new lights. Mr. Piasecki had questioned
neighbors and there had been no complaints.
Vice Chairwoman Blaine asked if the lights could be turned down rather
than outward and Mr. Pinkston agreed to check to see if this were
possible.
The hearing was opened to public comments. There were none.
Member Bond moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Claudy.
Motion carried, 4-0
After a discussion on most expedient way to resolve partial approval
of application, Member Claudy moved for continuation of Application
HC -51,218.2. Applicant to return by meeting of August 5, 1976.
Seconded by Member Irvine.
Motion carried, 4-0
Staff member Caughey pointed out banner shown on photo and advised the
applicant this was a temporary sign and would require a permit.
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Public Hear
ing closed
HC -51,218.2
continued
At 9:05 p.m. a recess was taken with the meeting reconvening at
9:15 p.m.
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Lng closed
iC-51,254.3
approved
MINUTES OF THE JULY 8, 1976 H -CONTROL MEETING
3. Application HC -51,254.3 - Marianist Novitiate requesting
approval of the modification of architecture for an educa-
tional and religious facility located adjacent to and
westerly of the western terminus of Merriman Road.
Staff report: Mr. Caughey exhibited samples of the shingles being
proposed for use. He said the chief building official had indicated
utilization of the fiberglass composition roof would eliminate the
need for interior sprinkler systems in the buildings and would be
more structurally advantageous due to its lighter weight.
Slides were shown of the site.
Vice Chairwoman Blaine referred to inconclusiveness of report on
desirability of conventional wood shakes vs. asphalt shingles,
relative to fire retardation.
It was noted that shingles would not burst and spread embers like
the shakes. Vice Chairwoman Blaine said it was important to think
of fire safety, especially in the wooded areas.
Member Irvine felt from an aesthetic standpoint these shingles
would be fine.
The hearing was opened for public comments. There were none.
Member Claudy moved to close Public Hearings. Seconded by Member
Irvine.
Motion carried, 4-0
Member Bond moved for approval of Application HC -51,254.3 with
standard H -Control conditions. Shingles to be Johns Manville
Woodlands roof, Shakewood blend as submitted by the applicant.
Seconded by Member Claudy.
AYES: Members Bond, Claudy, Irvine, Vice Chairwoman Blaine
NOES: None
Motion carried, 4-0
Application approved and would be heard by the City Council at its
July 19, 1976 meeting.
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4. Application HC -51,333.6 - Smart Clinic, Inc.
Since the applicant was not present, it was agreed to defer this
application to the end of the agenda.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
5. Application HC -51,002.4 - Leland Appleberry requesting
reapproval of a triplex in Tract 42769, Lot 51, La Cresta
Unit #2, Alpine Drive.
Staff member Caughey displayed plans that had been approved and
explained the one year limitation had been reached in August, 1973.
He referred to concern of visual privacy intrusion.
Mr. Leland Appleberry, 22462 Salem, Cupertino, said there is only
deck. He explained why the building plans had been shelved. He
explained the proposal since all the committee members were unfamiliar
with it.
Member Irvine commented that since the deck was off the kitchen and
dining rooms, it would receive active use.
The letter from Councilman O'Keefe was referred to.
Slides were shown of the area.
The hearing was then opened to public comment.
Mr. Paul Hardman, 10397 Vista Knoll Boulevard, Cupertino, said they
were in the single family home directly behind the proposed building.
He read comments expressing his concerns. He feels his rights are
being jeoprodized by the closeness of the building to the property
line and the balcony overlooking their home.
Mr. Hardman said at time of original approval they were given assurance
that this would be the last one. The fundamental question of invasion
of privacy remains the same. They have now built a pool and spa for
medical help for his wife. They have invested $15,000.00 on the
assumption that this application had outrun its time limit. He gave
several ways he would fight having his privacy invaded if the City
gave approval. He urged all the committee members to come to his
home to see for themselves the extent of privacy intrusion.
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HC -51,333.6
Smart Clinic,
Inc. to end
of agenda
HC -51,002.4
Leland
Appleberry
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Mr. Tom De Franco, 10427 Vista Knoll Boulevard, Cupertino, said his single
family home is along same property line. He referred to some of the
promises made on the treatment of the privacy intrusion and noted there
have been other approvals given since that time. He said the balcony
could be moved to the front without hampering design of the building.
City Council had made a mistake in not tackling privacy intrusion at
earlier time; they had been swayed by applicant's appeal. Someone
also needs to enforce that landscaping will be exactly as required.
Landscaping has not solved the problem because it is not being put in
according to original approval and is not being enforced. He said
Dumas has planted 3" shrubs where plans call for 15 gal. trees. He
asked for some actual verification that this problem is not being
solved by landscaping. The moving of building as far forward as
possible and the balcony being on the front of the building could help.
Mr. Dan Weinstein, 10407 Vista Knoll Boulevard, Cupertino, referred to
the Dumas situation. He said the difficulty of that building was a
lot of bay windows plus the balcony. Turning it around would have
solved a lot of problems. The problem with landscape screening is
that it is totally inadequate. He also invited them to come out to
his property. Architecture is part of control solution. He referred
to Sanborn application. He said there is a straight shot into his
family room and kitchen. He pointed out that landscaping doesn't always
grow. He urged them to explore some other solution than landscaping.
After four years, he felt it was time that someone came out to investi-
gate.
Mrs. Yvonne Hardman, 10397 Vista Knoll Boulevard, Cupertino, said it
was unfortunate for all of them to be placed in this situation. Her
health made it imperative she have the spa and the pool. She told of
her feelings in having someone watch her. All the houses in this
area are effected by the privacy intrusion. There is no way to get
landscaping that will give them privacy with a 22 ft. setback.
Mr. Appleberry said he had looked at the bui
saying is true, but his plans are paid for.
why don't they enforce the landscaping. All
is a final inspection on building. A 10 ft.
would not have just anyone in his building.
solid which will minimize visibility.
iding and what they are
He said the issue was
that needs to be done
shrub will screen. He
He said the deck is
Mrs. Hardman referred to fumes from autos at fence which would come
right into their pool area.
Councilman O'Keefe said visual intrusion is taking of property rights
and he is working on an ordinance to alleviate this problem.
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Mr. Appleberry said this land was zoned for triplex before Oak Knoll
was developed. Everyone should have known that their lots backed up
to a hill and something would be built there.
Mr. Weinstein questioned why all the property was not zoned for
single family development.
Mr. Hardman said even though it is zoned for multi -units there doesn't
have to be a balcony or extensive intrusion.
Vice Chairwoman Blaine read from the ordinance what this committee
was to consider on this application.
Mr. Appleberry answered Member Bond they were on the 20 ft. setback
in the front so the building could not be moved forward.
Member Bond moved to close Public Hearings. Seconded by Member
Claudy.
Motion carried, 4-0
Member Irvine said he could not see putting a balcony on the back of
these units. The privacy invasion must be considered in the design,
landscaping will not do it. He was also disturbed about the cars
coming to the back so close to the fence. He felt the City had made
a mistake in not addressing this problem before. Something has to be
done to protect both developer and homeowner. He pointed out in this
design the whole living unit 10 ft. in the air is addressed to the
back.
Member Bond said he felt windows are almost as great an intrusion as
the balcony.
Member Claudy pointed out this needs to be considered as a new
application. He found it a problem to have the cars in the back yard
because of noise and fumes. Theoretically the plants could block
view but it would take time. Architectural design has to be the
way to solve the problem. The design concerns him and privacy
intrusion of balcony is a real problem.
Vice Chairwoman Blaine expressed concern both for Mr. Appleberry and
residents of Oak Knoll. She did not feel this was the best plan for
this piece of property. A different siting of triplex can be done
so it will not be so far back and will not intrude any more than
necessary on the residents in back. She could not approve this
application with balcony or this plan for this site.
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ing closed
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[IC -51,002.4
denied
HC -51,333.6
Smart Clinic
Inc.
Public Hear-
ing closed
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Member Irvine moved that Application HC -51,002.4 be denied. Motion
died for lack of a second.
It was noted that due to length of time needed to enact an ordinance,
a decision should be reached.
After further discussion, Member Irvine again moved to deny
Application HC -51,002.4. Seconded by Member Claudy.
AYES: Members Bond, Claudy, Irvine, Vice Chairwoman Blaine
NOES: None
Motion carried, 4-0
The applicant was informed of his right to appeal this decision at
the July 19th City Council meeting.
4. Application HC -51,333.6 - Smart Clinic, Inc. requesting
approval of a sign plan for a commercial facility
located in the Valley Green Business Park adjacent to
and northerly of Valley Green Drive approximately 350
ft. westerly of De Anza Boulevard.
It was decided to review the application even though the applicant was
still not present.
Staff member Caughey exhibited colored rendering of sign proposal,
noting the sign would not conflict with the provisions of the existing
or proposed sign ordinance documents.
Slides were shown of the building and the surrounding area.
It was ascertained there could be a sign on the other end of the building
for a future tenant.
There was a consensus of the committee members that there was no problem
with this sign but there was some concern about the total sign program
not being more specific.
Staff member Caughey suggested a general form that could be used to
cover sign programs. Staff was asked to investigate and if there
appeared to be an inadequacey, the developer was to be asked to
appear before this committee for a more detailed sign program.
The hearing was opened for public comments. There were none.
Member Claudy moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Bond.
Motion carried, 4-0
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Member Bond moved to approve Application HC -51,333.6 with standard HC -51,333.6
H -Control conditions. Seconded by Member Claudy. approved
AYES: Members Bond, Claudy, Irvine, Vice Chairwoman Blaine
NOES: None
Motion carried, 4-0
NEW BUSINESS
Drexel Furniture Store (HC -51,340.1). It was noted at last meeting
that the sign supports were white while the building was a clay
color. Colored exhibits of the sign were displayed.
Staff member Caughey said he had a meeting with the owner of Drexel
store on Tuesday and would discuss this matter with him. He was asked
to notify the owner that the intent was to match the building color
as nearly as possible. Mr. Caughey also was to check Exhibit B with
regard to color shown.
Mr. Caughey reported that with regard to the City not following
through on conditions set on approvals, the staff had contacted
Mr. Dumas about his plantings.
Vice Chairwoman Blaine also asked staff to check what had been
approved for the Sanborn property. Plotinia trees and Sandlewood
trees were suggested.
A tentative meeting to tour Vallco was set for Thursday, July 15 at
7:30 p.m. Member Bond to contact Mr. Ward. Staff was to follow up
with regard to Brown Act.
ADJOURNMENT
At 11:50 p.m. Member Bond moved to adjourn to the next regular
meeting on July 22, 1976 at 7:00 p.m. Seconded by Member Claudy.
Motion carried, 4-0
ATTEST: APPROVED:
Is/ Wm. E. Ryder Is/ C. Nancy Sallan
City Clerk Chairwoman