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HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes 07-24-1975CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE HELD ON JULY 24, 1975 IN THE LIBRARY CONFERENCE ROOM, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was called to order at 7:17 p.m. in the Council Chamber by Vice -Chairman Dressler with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Members present: Grubb, Irvine, Vice -Chairman. Dressler Members absent: Sallan, Chairman Koenitzer Staff present: Assistant Planner Toby Kramer INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATION: None UNFINISHED BUSINESS: None APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of July 10, 1975 On page 4, paragraph 7, the word "could" in the last sentence should be changed to "would". There being no further corrections, Member Irvine moved to approve the Minutes of July 10, 1975, as amended. Seconded by Member Grubb. Motion carried, 3-0 POSTPONEMENTS: None WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None HC- 143 Page 1 Vice -Chairman Dressler announced no item would be initiated after 11:30 p.fm. Minutes o 7/10/75 approved as azendec HC -143 Page 2 HC -51,500 Bogarts HC -51,500 approved w/ condi- tions MINUTES OF THE JULY 24, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING REVIEW OF CHANGE OF COPY OF SIGN FACE: 1. Cal Coast Sign Company (Bogart's) requesting approval of change of copy for a new restaurant and bar in an existing building located on the southeast corner of Homestead Road and Foothill Expressway. Continued from H -Control meeting of July 10, 1975. Staff report: Assistant Planner Kramer reviewed the application, noting the applicant had not been present at previous meeting when this was dis- cussed. The amount of sign area on the ground sign makes the amount of area 33 ft. over the allotted square footage of 51 sq. ft. Ms. Kramer noted the building sign change was approved. With regard to the ground sign, in accordance with Resolution 1328 owners of nonconform- ing ground signs have the option of making the sign conform to the exist- ing ordinance or agreeing to just change the copy now and coming in with a sign that does conform after July 1976. The applicant has chosen the latter option. Ms. Kramer pointed out the whole structure will have to be modified since the sign is the center one in the pole. A rendering of the proposed change was exhibited to the committee members. Sample chips of the sign's colors were displayed. The sign is black with white letters. Member Irvine ascertained that the owner, the applicant and the City would sign agreement regarding bringing the sign into conformance by July 19 76 . Mr. Howard Kosofsky, representing Cal Coast Sign Company, said the sign approved the front of the building was also white and black. He felt the colors gave class and atmosphere. Vice -Chairman Dressler said he was mildly concerned with having the black and white in the middle of two red and white signs, wondering if it would be obtrusive. It was noted it would be taken down in a year. Mr. Kosofsky asked if the new sign could still be black and white. Vice -Chairman Dressler said the important thing was to have all the signs be compatible. Plember Irvine moved to approve Application HC -51,500, Bogarts, subject to d -Control standard conditions and the following special conditions: (1) The City has right to ieview the light intensity after it is put in place. (2) The applicant will agree in writing to comply with new ordinance in 1976. Seconded by Member Grubb. AYES: Members Grubb, Irvine and Vice -Chairman Dressler NOES: None Motion carried, 3-0 MINUTES OF THE JULY 24, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING The hearing was then moved to the Library Conference Room. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 2. Application HC -51,365.11 - D.S.L. (Downey Savings and Loan) Company requesting exception to Section 7.23 of the Sign Ordinance to allow three (3) signs in excess of the allotted number of signs for an office and bank complex to be located on the west side of Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road, 360 feet south of Rodrigues Avenue. Continued from H -Control meeting of June 5, 1975. Staff report: The Assistant Planner reviewed the previous hearing, noting the committee had felt a ground sign would be more appropriate than a sign on thL building. The applicant was asked to explore the possibility of a low profile ground sign and to further detail the type of sign that would be permitted for each tenant. The new proposal is for a 16 ft. side and two signs over the door ft. over the amount permitted by staff was not so much the number requested by the applicant, part sign. ground sign equal to 68 sq. ft. per of the building, a total of 61 sq. ordinance. The main concern of the of signs but the amount of area ocularly with regard to the ground Ms. Kramer referred to exhibit of revised proposal for ground sign and tenant signs as well as a colored rendering of building elevation. Member Irvine said everything seemed to be out of scale. He questione whether the tile structure on ground sign should be included. Ms. Kramer explained how the sign area was figured. Member Irvine felt the two members who were on the sign committee should be present befor a decision was made on this. The sign seemed very powerful to him. Member Grubb agreed the sign was huge. Mr. Bill Mills, Mills Electric Signs, Los Angeles, said he did all Downey signs. They have two signs which they have used on all 18 Downey buildings. It seemed they were well within the regulations. He offered to reduce sign to 36 sq. ft. as long as they could keep 12" letters. The blue and white is their logo. Their basic concern is to have the bottom of the sign above parked cars. The tile roof could easily be eliminated. Vice -Chairman Dressler ascertained the letters are illuminated. Mr. Mills displayed a sample 15" letter. HC -143 Page 3 HC -51,365.1 Downey Savings and Loan HC -143 MINUTES OF THE JULY 24, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 4 Member Irvine reiterated that since he had not been on the committee very long, he would hesitate to make.a move on such a big sign; he would like the input of the other committee members. Member Grubb felt the sign should be scaled down to the building. Taking the tile roof off would make the sign 13 ft. Mr. Mills asked that sign be 8 ft. from ground with 12" letters. Ms. Kramer noted the reduction would be well within the ordinance. Mr. Mills answered Vice -Chairman Dressler that lowering sign to 6 ft. from ground would encourage vandalism of the sign. The committee members agreed to accept 8 ft. from the ground with 36" x 12-1/2 ft. The exception for the additional building sign was discussed. Mr. Mills described the signs, referring to exhibit. Downey buys all tenant signs and they will be identical except the colors will be brown and cream. He explained the two Downey signs are for entrances facing on separate streets. Vice -Chairman Dressler questioned whether a sign was needed on the side where the ground sign was. Mr. Mills said they needed both -signs and reitereated they were under on square footage. Member Irvine said he was not troubled with second sign over door since it identified a separate entrance. Member Grubb felt signs should be on buildings only where necessary. He felt the strong ground sign and identification over front entry was sufficient. Mr. Mills said the side entrance should be identified. Ms. Kramer advised the staff felt the extra sign was justified since there would be other tenants in the building. Mr. Mills noted both signs would not be seen at the same time since they would face onto different streets. Vice -Chairman Dressler ascertained the parking lots would be joined so traffic would be coming from McClellan Square. The hearing was then opened for public comments. There were none. Public Hear Member Irvine moved to close Public Hearing. Seconded by Member Grubb. ing closed Motion carried, 3-0 Member Irvine moved to recommend approval of Application HC -51,365.11, Downey Savings and Loan, to the City Council with Exhibits F and F -1, standard H -Control conditions with the following conditions: MINUTES OF THE JULY 24, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING (1) Allowing one extra sign. (2) Reduce free standing sign to maximum height of 11'4" with 3' x 12'6" sign between poles and eliminate tile roof. (3) Staff has right to review lighting intensity. Seconded by Member Grubb. AYES: Members Grubb, Irvine and Vice -Chairman Dressler NOES: None Motion earned, 3-0 The applicant was advised this would be heard by the City Council at its next meeting. 3. Application HC -51,318.212 - Michael Del Monaco (Fisherman's Village) requesting exception to Section 7.021 of the Sign Ordinance to allow an advertising area in excess of the allotted square footage and a landscaping modification for an existing restaurant facility located on the south side of Stevens Creek Boulevard approximately 200 feet easterly of Blaney Avenue. Staff report: Assistant Planner Kramer gave the background of the sign on Fisherman's Village. On January 21, 1975 Council gave approval for the boat and for the existing 20 ft. sign contingent on the removal of the small cans advertising cocktails,lunch and dinner located on the pole. Fisherman's Village is now under new management which is proposing to remove existing ground sign and replace it with a 9-1/2 ft. wood structure. She referred to exhibited rendering. Since the boat is considered a sign and is approximately 200 sq. ft. of sign area, it is necessary for the applicant to obtain a sign exception. Landscaping modifications were explained. The applicant wishes to construct a small planter along the front of the building bordered by poles and rope to give the idea of a fishing dock. Tall piers will be placed in front of the entrance with a fishing net draped across the top to accent the door. Flowers will be added to the boat itself. Member Irvine said he was pleased with the sign. He wondered why there would be slumpstone between piers. It was noted the sign would not be illuminated internally but would have ground.lights directed onto it. IC -14 3 'age 5 IC -51,365.1 approved w/ conditions !IC -51, 318. 212 Fisherman's Village HC -143 Page 6 Public Heal ing closed; HC -51,318. 212 approved w condition HC -51,226. Shapell Industries of Norther California Inc. MINUTES OF THE JULY 24, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Mr. Michael Del Monaco, Fisherman's Village, explained they must have that to make a planter area. He explained intent of modification and showed sample of the wood to be used for the sign. In answer to Mr. Del Monaco, the committee members agreed the sign would look better in the center planter rather than as part of boat. The hearing was then opened for public comment. There was none. Member Irvine moved, seconded by Member Grubb, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 3-0 Member Irvine moved to approve application HC -51,318.212, Michael Del :Monaco (Fisherman's Village), with the enclosed Exhibits A and F, subject to standard H -Control conditions and following special conditions: (1) Provision that the staff have the right to review lighting once it is installed. Seconded by Member Grubb. AYES: Members Grubb, Irvine, Vice -Chairman Dressler NOES: None Motion carried, 3-0 The applicant was informed this would be heard at the next City Council meeting. 4. Application HC -51,226.1 - Shapell Industries of Northern California, Inc. requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping and grading for four duplex units located on the west side of Foothill Boulevard on the north and south side of Silver Oak Way. Staff report: The Assistant Planner said the site conforms to City set back regulations and the architecture is typical, fitting in with area. The main concern relative to grading for the site is the level of the pads in relation to the adjoining properties. The two units adjacent to the Arco property are about 8 ft. higher. Above that point, the site levels out and would be level with Silver Oak Way across from the condominiums. The units on the north side of Silver Oak Way are about 10 ft. above the street grade of Foothill Boulevard but then level out. The slope adjacent to Foothill Boulevard will be treated with landscaping. his. Kramer referred to Title 2of 1To icing Law and Earthquake Protection. Article 4 which, in terms of this development, would mean an accoustical engineer must submit a report describing methods for achieving the required sound levels within the interior of the units. She referred to a study done by Lockheed in this area and displayed charts of their findings. MINUTES OF THE JULY 24, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Mr. Jim Ghielmetti, 1287 Lawrence Station Road, Sunnyvale, said there were several ways this problem could be handled depending on actual readings. They are working with a noise consultant and would hope this could be worked out between them and staff. After reviewing with building inspector they would come up with a solution to satisfy Title 25 requirements. Member Irvine questioned radius of driveways; Mr. Ghielmetti said the radius was greater than required. Member Irvine felt Public Works should check into the curb cuts on units 1 and 3. In answer to Vice -Chairman Dressler's questioning of first driveway coming from Foothill Boulevard, Mr. Ghielmetti gave a general history of the site. The intent was to have maximum size backyard. Vice - Chairman Dressler questioned having unit on Silver Oak so close to the street. Vice -Chairman Dressler suggested having common curb cuts; Mr. Ghielmetti felt it would look better to have landscaping separating the driveways. He felt the common curb cuts would be cheaper but less aesthetic. Member Irvine suggested this could be done on the first unit off Foothill Boulevard. Member Irvine ascertained a catch basin was being installed to satisfy drainage ,T Kramer requirement on unit rs . Kramer noted the Engineering Department would check the drainage thoroughly. Member Irvine noted unit 2 drains into unit 1 and unit 4 drains into unit 3. The elevations were described. The materials to be used will be natural wood and brick with shake roofs. Member Grubb asked for color samples. Ms. Kramer suggested it could be conditioned that earth tones would be used. Mr. Ghielmetti thought it was unusual to have to come before ASAC for duplexes. He felt it should be treated as single family dwellings. He would have no objections to having staff review the colors. Mr. Ghielmetti described the proposed landscaping treatment. African trailing daisy would be used on the slope. There are a series of trees in front. Landscaping was shown for front yards back to fence line; buyers would landscape backyards. Vice -Chairman Dressler ascertained there would be 16 trees of 15 gallon size on units 1 and 2; also on units 3 and 4. Member Grubb said if sound wall was needed staff could approve. The other committee members agreed. HC -14 3 Page 7 IIC-143 MINUTES OF THE JULY 24, 1975 II -CONTROL MEETING • Page 8 The hearing was then opened for public comments. There were none. Public Hearings closed .IC -51, 226 approved w, conditions Member Irvine moved, seconded by Member Grubb, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 3-0 Member Irvine moved to approve Application IIC-51,226.1, Shapell Industries of Northern California, Inc., with standard H -Control conditions, enclo- sures Exhibits A, B, B-1 and Informational sheet and the following special conditions: (1) That a report shall be prepared by an acoustical engineer describ- ing the necessary methods to meet the conditions of Title 25 Article 4 of Housing Law and Earthquake Protection Section T25-1092. In the event that an acoustical wall is necessary, the applicant shall submit the wall design to the staff for approval. (2) Public Works to check the driveway situation at units 1 and 3 as marked in exhibits with the possibility of combining driveways into one curb cut on these two units. (3) That Public Works look closely at drainage problem of backyards of units. (4) That units have varying colors of earth tone hues and final selection of colors be approved by staff. Seconded by Member Grubb. AYES: Members Grubb, Irvine, Vice -Chairman Dressler NOES: None Motion carried, 3-0 The applicant was informed this would be heard by the City Council at the next regular meeting. NEW BUSINESS: None ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m. to the next regular meeting on August 7 at 7:00 p.m. ATTEST: /s/ Wm. E. Ruder City Clerk APPROVED: /s/ R.D. Koenitzer Chairman