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HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes 06-05-1975CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA HC -140 1.0300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Page 1 Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE HELD ON JUNE 5, 1975 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was opened at 7:35 p.m. with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Members present: Grubb, Irvine (10:30), Sallan, Chairman Koenitzer Members absent: Dressler Staff present: Assistant Planner Toby Kramer INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATION: None UNFINISHED BUSINESS: None.. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of May 22, 1975 On Page 5, paragraph 4, first word in line 3 should be changed to 'might". Member Sallan moved the Minutes of May 22, 1975, be approved as correct d. Seconded by Member Grubb. Minutes of 5/22/75 Motion carried, 3-0 approved as corrected POSTPONEMENTS: Assistant Planner Kramer reported that item 5, HC -51,259.81 had asked to be postponed. Member Sallan so moved, seconded by Member Grubb. Motion carried, 3-0 WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None iic-140 MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 2 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None Chairman Koenitzer announced no item would be initiated after 11:30 p.m. PUBLIC HEARINGS: HC -51,075.4 1. Application HC -51,075.40 - Vallco Fashion Park Shopping Center Vallco requesting approval for landscaping for the employees parking Fashion Par lot located on the east side of Wolfe Road and for Vallco Shopping Parkway on the west side of Wolfe Road. Continued from Center H -Control meeting of May 22, 1975. Staff report: Assistant Planner Kramer reviewed application, noting it had been continued from May 22, 1975 meeting because of an incomplete landscaping plan which caused some confusion regarding the plant types and spacing. She referred to Exhibit C-13 1st Revision as displayed on board. Ms. Kramer said in addition the applicant was asking for approval for modifications to eliminate skylight over entry to western mall of Bullock's store and fountains on each side of Wolfe Road and adjacent to Sears: These would be replaced with specimen trees. Also some planter islands in parking areas; these would be replaced with circular type planters containing trees. The applicant is also proposing to plant vines on chain link fence next to the 280 ramp. They are asking to replace 30% of the 15 -gallon trees with 5 gallon size in parking area. Member Sallan raised a procedural question. She said they have not had background material on these modifications and are not prepared to hear them. Chairman Koenitzer agreed, adding that because of number of modifications being requested, the committee could spend much time on this application. Ms. Kramer explained they were concerned with getting permits and financing, and the City's scheduling of road improvements, etc. so time was of an essence. She suggested hearing the application as agendized and the modifications at end of the agenda. Mr. Walter Ward, General Manager of Vallco, said they had met with staff on Tuesday. He explained their loan must be completely recorded by the end of this month and this would require the City's initialing of plans. They had thought staff could approve these minor modifications. They feel the modifications are insignificant compared to the magnitude of the project. The whole project is in jeopardy and he requested they be heard this evening. MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING HC -140 Page 3 Chairman Koenitzer ruled that the modifications would be heard with the agendized application. Mr. Michael Painter, 562 Mission Street, San Francisco, landscape architect for the project, described the modifications. He noted the plants have been placed higher on the mound in accordance with H -Control's recommendation. He named the plants to be used and explained their purpose. He pointed out there is a larger lawn on inner side of sidewalk. Mr. Painter answered Member Sallan that there would be a few spots where a person walking on sidewalk could glimpse into the lot, noting this was a plus as a safety factor. This was discussed. Chairman Koenitzer noted most of the committee's concerns of the last meeting had been answered on this plan. The hearing was then opened for comments from the audience. There were none. Member Sallan moved to close Public Hearings. Seconded by Member Grubb. Public Hear- ing closed Motion carried, 3-0 Member Sallan moved to recommend approval of Application HC -51,075.40, HC -51,075.4C Vallco.:'Fashion Park Shopping Center, to the City Council with the approved standard H -Control conditions. This is for landscaping and includes Exhibit C-13 First Revision. Seconded by Member Grubb. Motion carried, 3-0 Chairman Koenitzer advised the application had been approved and would be heard by the City Council on June 16, 1975. The modifications were then heard. Mr. Painter said the redwood trees did not provide total screening to the lot along Wolfe Road and 280 ramp. They were suggesting ivy vines be planted on fence, at 10 ft. centers. Mr. Painter said the fountains were one of the most expensive items. They had 13 jets and were asking to eliminate 3 of them. He located their positions on the site map. Those eliminated will be replaced with specimen trees, planted on mound. The fountain at entrance to mall shops adjacent to Sears would have same treatment, generally. HC -140 I MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 4 This fountain would be replaced with two trees of 20 ft. and 30 ft. height with flowers underneath them and a tile bench around them in a circular pattern. Member Sallan asked if there were figures on the amount of savings. Mr. Painter said there would be about a $15,000.00 savings with a possible additional saving of $10,000.00 in size of pump pit and piping. Member Sallan said she was sorry to see the fountains go. Mr. Painter answered that with the major fountain area in center of Wolfe Road, this would still be a very strong display. Member Sallan asked Mr. Ward if interior changes would be made to cut costs. Mr. Ward said the costs must come within the amount of the loan. They are trying to do things that are not significant but they must bring costs in line with loan or they do not get the loan. There will be some substitution o'f materials. He named several possibilities. Mr. Painter pointed out all trees and shrubs indicated on the plan are staying. The specimen trees are staying. However the difference in cost between the 15 gallon and 5 gallon trees is significant. The difference in growth is approximately 1-1/2 or 2 years. They want to substitute 30% of the 15 gallon size for 5 gallon size. He explained where the substitutions would be made. These are mostly in areas where there are already grown redwood trees. There will be a combination of sizes which they think is important. Mr. Painter answered Member Sallan these trees would be mostly the perimeter redwood trees that would beef up the existing redwood trees. He said there would be a savings of approximately $8,000.00. They are also asking to change 70% of the shrubs from 5 gallon to 1 gallon. Again they are talking about a difference of maybe 1-1/2 years. Member Sallan said she would not be comfortable with this change at all. Mr. Painter then pointed out modifications being requested in parking lot islands. These would be on back edges of parking lots with the perimeter plantings to be as shown. The pork chop shape would be changed to circular islands with two trees planted in them. Mr. Ralph Butterfield, architect, then explained elimination of skylight, on Bullock's store. A model of the store was exhibited. Member Sallan asked what the result of testing for glare had been. Mr. Butterfield said there would be a 3 week period when the sun would get high enough to hit some of the houses; however the redwood trees would block the reflection. Mr. Butterfield answered Member Sallan the main reason for modification was economic. They would save approximately $20,000.00 and he was not sure of the tonnage in reduction on air conditioning load. MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING HC -140 Page 5 Chairman Koenitzer asked if there was anyone in the audience who would like to comment on the proposed modifications. There was not. Chairman Koenitzer suggested discussing and voting on the six proposed changes separately. (1) Planting ivy along chain link fence facing Interstate 280 to provide more screening. Approved, 3-0 (2) Reduce the 14 fountain heads to 9 by eliminating 1 at the west entrance next to Sears and replacing with planting area including specimen trees, flowers and bench. Two, eliminating those at the turn off of Wolfe Road at the west side adjacent to the central fountain area, replacing with a mound and specimen tree. In concept, the same treatment would be given to the east side. Member.Sallan said she was sympathetic with the applicant's position but it was a shame to eliminate the fountains since it was such a unique feature for the center. Chairman Koenitzer pointed out they are maintaining main fountain area incenter strip on Wolfe Road. Member Grubb said he felt it acceptable and it was the perogative of the applicant. Approved, 2-0-1 Abstain: Sallan (3) Reduction by 30% of the 15 gallon trees to 5 gallon, none of the specimen trees in the project would be changed. Planting would not be changed on public roads or around the buildings. Reduction would be mainly in outer parking lots. Approved, 3-0 (4) Reduce number of 5 gallon shrubs by 70% and change to 1 gallon size. Member Sallan reiterated she was not at all comfortable with this since the center would have such significant visual impact on the City. Mr. Painter suggested a compromise of 30% reduction. Member Sallan said they should look at type of shrub and confine the reduction to those plants having faster growth pattern. 30% of the 5 gallon size shrubs to be changed to 1 gallon size. The ones along public streets and adjacent to the buildings will not* change; mainly those in outer parking lots. Approved, 3-0 HC -140 Page 6 HC -51,365.1 Downey Savings & Loan MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING (5) Change some of the"pork chop"planting areas* in outer parking lot to circular area. The same number of trees would be retained. The planter areas in front of streets and other major areas would not change their shape. Approved, 3-0 (6) Architectural change to eliminate skylight over entrance of mall at Bullock's. Approved, 3-0 Chairman Koenitzer advised the modifications had been approved. He noted any others should be agendized. Mr. Ward thanked the committee and apologized to the waiting applicants. 2. Application HC -51,365.1 - D.S.L. (Downey Savings and Loan) requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping., grading, lighting and signing for an office and bank complex to be located on the west side of Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road south of Rodrigues Avenue.. Continued from H -Control meeting of May 22, 1975. Staff report: Assistant Planner Kramer referred to staff report of May 15, 1975 recommending changes to rear setback of property and the landscaping of the frontage. The applicant had modified the plans to answer these recommendations. The remaining issue is the access to the development from Saratoga - Sunnyvale Road. The plan still proposes driveways directly adjacent to the existing curb cuts for neighboring properties. Staff very strongly feels these curb cuts should either be combined with the existing curb cuts to the north and south or the applicant should use a center driveway as indicated on informational exhibit. Ms. Kramer described the architecture and materials being proposed for the building. Parking on site is adequate. She located trash enclosure as indicated on site plan. She noted there are apartments at rear of the property and suggested the committee speak to some landscaping screening to avoid privacy intrusion. With regard to signing, the applicant is requesting 3 fascia signs on building, two identification signs over doorway entrances and three signs for other tenants in the building.. They are asking for 268 sq. ft. of signing and allowed 322 sq. ft. The Assistant Planner displayed aerial photo transparency showing curb cuts. MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Chairman Koenitzer asked about access from these lots to McClellan Square. Ms. Kramer said this had been discussed and any cooperative arrangement would be to everyone's advantage. Mr. John Quinton, vice-president of Downey Savings, said the building material was slumpstone with tile roof, glass and wood treatment simila] to McClellan Square shopping center buildings. He noted they had followed all the suggestions made by staff. Chairman Koenitzer asked Mr. Quinton about having a single center entrance. Mr. Quinton said they operated similarly to a retail opera- tion. They average 120-425 cars a day. Convenience is the most important feature of their operation. They had been led to believe they could have two entrances and two exits on this site. They would consider it a damage to their operation not to have them. With regard to a joint driveway with adjacent.owners. Mr. Quinton said they were disappointed not to have had any favorable results. He would like to see a break between the shopping center and their property. He explained this was an office space operation also which would further generate traffic. During their reinvestment period each quarter their traffic will jump 50%. Member Sallan asked what the hardship would be in having a single entrance and exit at center of property. Mr. Quinton said it would create a queuing problem. Chairman Koenitzer pointed out that at that point there would be only right turns in and out because of median. He advised the traffic engineer had felt this to be a good solution. If the single entrance were adopted, there should be "No Left Turn%% signs posted on exit side. With regard to architecture, Mr. Quinton answered Member Grubb that the glass would be a smoked gray. Mr. Jim Coleman, 20430 Town Center, Cupertino, explained the landscapinj plan proposed. He indicated the changes in plants which had been made and the changes in plant arrangement in answer to staff's recommenda- tions. He noted they would like to round the edges of the mound. He answered Member Sallan that the mounds are 3 ft. high as compared to Ralph's mounding which is 4 ft. Member Sallan said she thought there were areas that needed filling. She thought there should be shrubs instead of ivy used at various points. She indicated these locations. She also felt there should be a tree at each end of the center mounding. Mr. Coleman was agreeable to making these additions and changes. HC -140 Page 7 HC -140 Page 8 HC -51, 365.1: D.S.L. (Downey Savings & Loan) MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Chairman Koenitzer said he was disappointed in the landscaping along Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. He was hoping to see more variety and something different. This was acceptable but not outstanding. Mr. Coleman answered Member Sallan there were Liquidambar trees planted directly across the street. With regard to lighting, Mr. Donald Mechfessel said the lights would be opaque white and the bulbs would not be seen. Mr. Mechfessel answered Chairman Koenitzer that the signs are opaque letters with neon lighting. The lights will not spill out from cans onto the building. There will not be any soffit lighting on front of building. The grading was discussed. Chairman Koenitzer noted there was a 4 ft. difference between the curb at Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road and the parking lot at northeast corner. He questioned why there seemed to be stair step situation between.Sambo's, McClellan Square and this property. In answer to Chairman Koenitzer, Mr. Mechfessel said they could possibly lower the area by the northerly driveway; they would have to study the drainage situation. It was decided to hear the next application concurrently since it applied to an exception for signing on this application. (3) Application HC -51,365.11 - D.S.L. (Downey Savings and Loan) Company requesting exception to Section 7.23 of the Sign Ordinance to allow three (3) signs in excess of the allotted number of signs for an office and bank complex to be located on the west side of Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road, 360 feet south of Rodrigues Avenue. In answer to Chairman Koenitzer, Mr. Quinton said they did not have any samples of the sign materials or exhibits of the signs being proposed other than those shown on architectural renderings. He described the signing. The tenant signs are 2 ft. x 12 ft. and are in cans with whatever logo would be unique to that tenant. Using samples provided by Ms. Kramer, he said the Downey signs would be color #2050 blue and the white would be #W7238." Mr. Quinton said they had removed the monument sign from the ground and shifted their identification to the building. There will be a reader board on building to identify the occupants of the second floor offices. There will be 3 occupants on first floor adjacent to D.S.L. The cans for the tenant signs would be dark brown. Mr. Quinton answered Chairman Koenitzer that the frontage is 240+ ft. MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Chairman Koenitzer read the portion of the Sign Ordinance pertaining to exceptions and requirements necessary to allow the exceptions. Mr. Quinton said their setback puts them behind Sambo's and they lose their identification. They felt the building signs were more compatible to the area. Member Grubb said he would prefer a ground sign t'o the sign on the building. He also objected to the blue. Mr. Quinton said this was their logo and blue was unique to their business. He said they did not feel it was necessary to have identification over the doorways so these two signs could be eliminated. They could be identified by small gold signs on the doors. Mr. Quinton answered Member Sallan that the easterly and southerly exposures were the most critical. Chairman Koenitzer said he agreed with Member Grubb. A ground sign in front would be better identification. He could not agree with signs on upper fascia of building. A ground sign in front of modest proporti would improve appearance of building and give identification. Member Sallan said she could probably live with the two signs on the building. She could not be comfortable with exception allowing a total of 5 signs. Mr. Quinton said they would be willing to have just two signs on the building as these were extremely important to them. Mr. Quinton answered Member Sallan that the monument sign would not give them the required visibility. Member Grubb said he was concerned about the building itself. The building is in browns with red tile roof and then adding blue sign did not make for a happy solution. The hearing was then opened for public comment. There were none. Chairman Koenitzer summarized briefly. The first item on site is the two entrances versus single access. Whatever is decided for south end will apply for many years. The traffic engineer has indicated the single entrance would be feasible and would handle traffic flow. Member Sallan said she favored the single approach based on City engineer's view that it would function adequately. She would rather have the south boundary put in landscaping at this point of time. Member Grubb said under present conditions and in view of Saratoga - Sunnyvale Road conditions he would be more inclined to favor single entrance. Chairman Koenitzer agreed. HC -140 Page 9 HC -140 MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 10 Regarding the grading, Chairman Koenitzer noted if the single entrance approach is followed, there will be space available for landscaping and this would favorably affect grading at northeast corner of site. Relative to signs, there is the question of exception and there is no general sign plan spelled out for the development. There should be guidelines for any other sign cans to be used for the development with regard to size and colors as well as background colors for signs. Mr. Quinton said he agreed with sign consistency. The background of the tenant signs would be yellow with dark brown cans. The letters could be dark brown. After further discussion, the applicant agreed to have the sign portion of the application continued. He pointed out however that any ground sign would be blocked by the landscaping. Chairman Koenitzer urged him to at least consider the ground sign. Member Sallan questioned approving landscaping with site modification being planned. She suggested approving the landscaping conceptually and working with ground sign in connection with the landscaping as modified for center access. Mr. Quinton said if the center entrance was approved, they would. Want to go to the City Council and appeal it. Public Hear Member Sallan moved to close the Public Hearing. Seconded by Merruer ing closed Grubb. Motion carried, 3-0 HC -51,365.1 Member Sallan moved to recommend approval to the City Council of approved w/ HC -51;365.1, Downey Saving &Loan, for site, architectural, conceptual conditions landscaping, grading and' lighting, with the standard H -Control conditions and enclosures Exhibit A-lst Revision and B with the following additional conditions: (1) Relative to the site, that the site is modified to have a center driveway, thereby changing the access from two curb cuts (one at north and one at south end of the property) to a center location as designated on Informational Staff Exhibit. (2) That the landscaping is approved in concept as applied to the central driveway approach. The applicant will return with final landscape plans for this new site approach at a future time. MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING (3) Modification to the existing landscape plans include the addition of low shrubs at the north and south boundaries of the property, as well as additional shrubs around the perimeter of the property. (4) Additional trees to be planted in the central planter along the stepping stones; these to be 15 gallon evergreens, with a minimum of one at each planter. (5) The mounding is to be softened at the tapering down proportions. Seconded by Member Grubb. AYES: Members Grubb, Sallan and Chairman Koenitzer NOES: None Motion carried, 3-0 Chairman Koenitzer advised the applicant the approved portions would be heard by the City Council at its next regular meeting of June 16, 1975. Member Sallan moved to continue signing portion. of Application HC -51,365.: and HC -51,365.11. The intent of the continuance was to give the appli- cant a chance to reconsider signing approach with the possibility of incorporating a ground sign for the property as well as coming up with definitive signing for building as to be used by any tenant. Seconded by Member Grubb. Motion carried, 3-0 The applicant was informed the continued portions would be heard at the next regular H -Control meeting on June 19, 1975. At 10:19 p.m. a recess was taken with the meeting reconvening at 10:30 p.r 4. Application HC -51,150.2 - De Anza Racquet Club requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping and grading for a clubhouse and restaurant facility located at the northwest corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard and Stelling Road. Staff report: Assistant Planner Kramer noted these detailed plans of the restaurant and clubhouse facility would complete this application with the exception of lighting and signing. HC -140 Page 11 HC -51,365.1 HC -51,365.13 con't HC -51,150.2 De Anza Racquet Club HC -140 I MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 12 Ms. Kramer referred to exhibits on the board pointing out minor modifica- tions that had been made. Staff's only comment was a suggestion that a sidewalk be provided at the corner of the driveway leading from Stevens Creek Boulevard to the sidewalk to the restaurant to accommodate people who may come from DeAnza College or other points. Chairman Koenitzer asked about signing. Ms. Kramer pointed out the applicant has two facilities. The racquet club are proposing in the future to have sign identification on the corner. She referred to exhibit showing building sign for restaurant and racquet club. It had been staff's suggestion that they prepare a building sign in case the ground sign was denied.. Mr. Keith Pritchard, 525 W. Remington, Sunnyvale, said the drawings presented tonight were in response to staff's request. It was not complete and they would return and identify it more completely. There would be proposed a ground sign in the northwest quadrant of Stevens Creek and Stelling to identify the racquet club. The sign would be two faced, approximately 6 ft. x 12 ft. The sign on the building would be as indicated. The ground sign would be less than 6 ft. from ground level. Mr. Pritchard then exhibited samples of tile and wood. Site: The exhibits for restaurant and club house facility were described by Mr. Pritchard. Member Sallan ascertained the applicant was agreeable to adding sidewalk as suggested by staff. Architecture: In answer to Member Grubb, Mr. Pritchard described the materials to be used for the building. In answer to Chairman Koenitzer, Mr. Pritchard said there would be closed circuit TV coverage of tennis courts. Landscaping: Mr. Pritchard described planting proposal, noting they were continuing the basic scheme. He indicated plants to be used. The hearing was then opened for public comment. There were none. Public Hear- ings closed er Sallan moved, seconded by Member Grubb, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Sallan moved to recommend approval to the City Council of HC -51,150.2, De Anza Racquet Club, with the standard H -Control condii-- tions and enclosures Exhibits B, B -1, C -1, D-1 and the following additional condition: (1) That the applicant will provide a sidewalk or walkway from Stevens Creek to the sidewalk of the restaurant. Seconded by Member Irvine. AYES: Members Grubb, Irvine, Sallan and Chairman Koenitzer NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant was advised this recommendation would be heard by the City Council at its June 16, 1975 meeting. 5. Application HC -51,259.81 - Edwin J. Myers (Canadian Pacific Bank) Postponed as per applicant's request. 6. Application HC -51,002.11 - Stephen Sanborn requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping and grading for a six -unit apartment complex located at 10384 Alpine Drive, Lot 53, Tract 2527. Staff report: Assistant Planner Kramer noted application is for another multi -family unit on Alpine Drive. It is directly adjacent to single family subdivision on Vista Knoll Drive. She referred to previous discussions on privacy intrusion. Ms. Kramer noted staff has worked closely with the applicant in this regard. The Assistant Planner referred to the P.G.& E. easement running through the site which made almost half of the property unavailable for building pad. She showed an aerial photo transparency which illustrated this. Ms. Kramer described the placement of the building on the site to answer privacy concerns. She showed line -of -sight drawings. The Assistant Planner referred to landscaping exhibits, elevation maps and floor plans displayed on the board. Member Irvine noted he had some concerns about the grade level as indicated on the site plan. HC -140 Page 13 HC -51,150.2 approved w/ conditions HC -51,259.81 Canadian Pacific Bank Postponed HC -51,002.11 Stephen Sanborn HC -140 MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 [[-CONTROL MEETING Page 14 Slides were shown of the site and adjacent areas. Mr. Stephen Sanborn, 23048 Granger Avenue, Los Altos, said he had worked closely with staff regarding the intrusion problem. The one unit in question has a bedroom window within 40 ft. of property line. He explained the intent and concept of his proposal-. Mr. Sanborn said his landscaping concept was to recreate the earlier days of orchards and wild flowers. He expressed his willingness to create any privacy barrier thought necessary. Mr. Sanborn explained the south elevation was left plain because he planned a dense grove of Monterey Pines. He had tried to leave the exterior plain and put all the amenities to the interior where people lived. Chairman Koenitzer suggested another row or two of fruit trees in back would provide more of an orchard effect and solve some of the question of privacy intrusion. It was noted the only problem with the grading was at the driveway. The applicant said this would be changed. Member Irvine said it appeared to him there was an error in the contour lines. Mr. Sanford said there was a dome that would have to be leveled when the units were built. Member Irvine ascertained the contour lines as shown were existing grade. The hearing was opened to the public for comments. Mr. Tom DiFranco, 10427 Vista Knoll, Cupertino, said his property was immediately behind the proposed landscaping plan. In answer to his question, Mr. Sanborn said there was no landscaping planned for easement area. Mr. DiFranco said even with an 8 ft. fence the line -of -sight from this building would come half way down into his family room. Mr. DiFranco said the fruit trees are deciduous and lose their leaves in winter, so they would not provide any help to the privacy intrusion problem. He said Mr. Sanborn had done a good job in keeping living area to the front, but he felt the fruit trees should be backed up with some other tree, such as pines. Mr. Daniel Weinstein, 10417 Vista Knoll, Cupertino, said this concept is excellent for the area: To create some type of screen barrier, it would be more desirable to use an evergreen. Commenting on the easement, he said there was everything from horses, dogs and motorbikes running through there. It is within the scope of this committee to say that something should be done to this easement to make it an aesthetically pleasing area. He suggested some type of barrier that would allow foot traffic but nothing else. MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Ms. Regina Weimer, 10447 Vista Knoll Blvd., Cupertino, said the bathroom balcony would look into her pool. The kids climb the easement tower and look into her yard. She wanted to know who would pay for the fence if she had to extend it. Mr. Richard Kane, 10437 Vista Knoll, Cupertino, questioned height of proposed fence. Ms. Kramer said she assumed there would be a 6 ft. fence although the ordinance would allow an 8 ft. fence. Mr. Kane said he would rather have additional landscaping than fencing. Mr. Sanborn pointed out that none of his units are on a direct angle to any of the adjacent houses. He also pointed out that the overhangs would help prevent visual intrusion into the houses. Ms. Weimer said she thought there had to be 70 ft.and it was only 40 ft. Chairman Koenitzer said the only setback requirement was for 20 ft. Mr. DiFranco said he would like to see the landscaping on Dumas property matched in the easement area so it would be contiguous. There being no further comments from the audience, Member Sallan moved to close Public Hearings. Seconded by Member Grubb. Motion carried, 4-0 Chairman Koenitzer said he saw no reason why they couldn't ask for similar planting on this property as was put on Dumas property to provide for screening to the east and the north. Ms. Kramer referred to path. A discussion was held on how this could be implemented. Mr. Weinstein said if there was no fence around this property it would be disastrous. His recommendation would be that they demand a fence paralleling the easement and that they recommend some solution be provides to maintain this easement in an aesthetic and pleasing meanner. Ms. Kramer said a suitable treatment to the path could be included as a condition. They could indicate it should be of a suitable material and have a fence on each side. Member Irvine said he did not feel they had a grading plan and there could possibly be extensive retaining walls at driveway. He suggested some profiles be worked up to see what actually happens at existing homes. HC -140 Page 15 Public Hear- ing closed HC -140 MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, ].975 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 16 After further discussion, Chairman Koenitzer said because of problems concerning pedestrian easement and its location having impact on the driveway, and also because of the question of grading of driveway, he would ask for a motion to continue this application to the next regular meeting. HC -51,002.11 .continued IIt was so moved by Member Irvine, seconded by Member Sallan. Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant was notified HC -51,002.11 had been continued so that some of the concerns about site and pedestrian easement and about grading could be investigated further. NEW BUSINESS: None The Assistant Planner reported that Ross Smith had spoken to Payless, Gemco and Portal Plaza to inform them they must keep merchandise out of unauthorized areas. Ms. Kramer also reported that there was no stipulation regarding the approval of lights at Urich. However the intensity of illumination had been included in minutes and staff would check. ADJOURNMENT At 11:55 p.m., Member Sallan moved, seconded by Member Grubb, to adjourn --- to the next meeting of June .1.9, 1975 at 7:00 p.m. LTTEST: sl Wm. E. Ryder ity Clerk Motion carried, 5-0 APPROVED: /s/ R.D. Koenitzer, Jr. Chairman