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HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes 01-23-19751 CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COI•IITTEE HELD ON JANUARY 23, 1975, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was called to order at 7:07 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Members present: Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan Members absent: Weinstein Staff present: Assistant Planner Kramer INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS - UNFINISHED BUSINESS: Member Koenitzer inquired if the Church of the Nazarene had been contacted regarding landscaping. The Assistant Planner reported the church would be putting in parking lot on east side and would be coming before this body; however, there were no plans for land- scaping the front. Member Koenitzer reiterated there should be some landscaping done as there were only about four trees left between the church and the street. Member Dressler asked the Assistant Planner to report on the Dumas application. Chairwoman Sallan had been present at the City Council hearing and also reported. She had asked for guidelines to be used on next similar application. Those given were screening of deck, landscaping, setback - she had the impression H -Control could not get into redesign. City Council has asked staff to come up with new ordinance within 3O days. One suggestion was that no living area windows face the rear of the property. Chairwoman Sallan reported on Fisherman's Village application, noting it was approved by the City Council. HC -130 Page 1 HC -130 Page 2 Minutes of 8/29/74 approved as submitted Minutes of. 12/19/74 approved as corrected Minutes of 1/9/75 approved as corrected MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of August 29, 1974 Member Rogers moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to accept .the Minutes of August 29, 1974 as presented. Member Dressler moved to amend the motion to compliment the secretary. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. VOTE ON AMENDMENT VOTE ON MOTION Motion carried, 4-0 Motion carried, 4-0 Minutes of December 19, 1974 Page 2, third paragraph under New Business, the first word in the last line should be "affected". Page 11, first paragraph, there should be commas between the words "material" and "guidelines". It was moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to approve the Minutes of December 19, 1974 as corrected. - Motion carried, 4-0 Minutes of January 9, 1975 Page 6, last paragraph, the second sentence should read "The committee members are.....". Page 5, paragraph 8, third line should read ".....did not find it objectionable". Page 11, paragraph 3, replace the word "nice" with "well". On page 9, paragraph 9, the second word in the third line should be "proper". It was moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to approve the Minutes of January 9, 1975, as corrected. Motion carried, 4-0 MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING POSTPONEMENTS Assistant Planner Kramer reported Stoneson Development Corporation had requested a postponement of Application HC -51,283.4 to allow for further study on sign design. It was moved by Member Rogers, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to continue Application HC -51,283.4. Motion carried, 4-0 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Chairwoman Sallan announced Member Rogers has been appointed by the City Council to the Public Safety committee. Member Rogers will continue on H -Control committee until April when the City will interview for all openings. Chairwoman Sallan expressed the appreciation of H -Control members for her participation and her willingness to serve until April. I It was then announced that no item would be initiated after 11:30 pi PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. Application HC -51,264.1 of Urich Oil Company requesting approval of signing for an existing service station located on the southeast corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard and Blaney Avenue. Continued from H -Control meeting of January 9, 1975. The Assistant Planner noted the applicant was not present. He had however expressed his willingness to have the committee review and make a decision without his being there. Ms. Kramer suggested the committee look at it and make suggestions for applicant to incorpo- rate and bring back. The committee agreed. Member Koenitzer ascertained this is a new sign can. Chairwoman Sallan noted the desire of the committee to have color chips and samples presented.with applications. Ms. Kramer said there were chips available. It was announced that plans should include color code numbers and if this was not adhered to, the application would not be considered. IIC-130 Page 3 m. HC -51, 264.1 Urich Oil Company Staff report: The Assistant Planner pointed out the station has done some minor face lifting. They have put up a couple of new s tic -130 MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 4 on canopy and building. The applicant is only requesting approval of ground sign; however, the added signs need approval also. The applicant is allowed 311 sq. ft. of signing and is requesting 112 sq. ft. However, the proposed 8 ft. by 7 ft. 2 in. sign on an 8 ft. pole would appear to be top heavy. Proportions should be considered. Ms. Kramer noted that moving the sign out of its present position in the corner triangle would cause problems with the driveways. She used a transparency to illustrate. Slides were shown of site and existing signs. It was noted there was no landscaping on site. Member Dressler asked if the committee had an option for requiring this. Ms. Kramer said a sign application does not necessarily mean landscaping can be required. This was discussed. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out this is not a change of copy but a major sign change. Although this is not a clear cut situation, she felt the committee had a responsibility to make aesthetic concerns known. She suggested a trade-off of allowing the sign to remain in the corner triangle if the triangle were landscaped. Ms. Kramer said if the bottom of thesignwere 8 ft. off the ground, the sign could remain in the corner triangle; however, it would be necessary to file for sign exception and have it advertised. Color chips were displayed by the Assistant Planner. Chairwoman Sallan reiterated the code numbers should be submitted in the plans from now on: Member Koenitzer said he would like to see a smaller sign. He suggested making the price in 15 in. numbers instead of 30 in. He noted 400 milliamp lamps would have less output and should be required since the sign would be prominent enough. Assuming the colors would be the same as existing sign, this would not bother him too much. The committee as a whole agreed with Member Koenitzer's remarks. The Assistant Planner suggested having definite guidelines to offer the applicant. Member Koenitzer suggested reducing overall size of sign by 3/4 with price letters to be the same height as UCO letters. With regard to landscaping, the applicant should be advised of the committee's request for landscaping in corner triangle. Chair- woman Sallan noted this did not preclude the applicant from including more greenery around the station. The hearing was opened for comments from the public. There were none. MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 11 -CONTROL MEETING Member Koenitzer moved Application HC -51,264.1 of Urich Oil Company be continued to the next regular meeting. Seconded by Member Rogers Motion carried, 4-0 2. Application HC -51,075.40 of Vallco Park Regional Shopping Center requesting approval of landscaping from the cul-de- sacs on Amherst Drive, Merritt Drive and Auburn Drive. Continued from H -Control meeting of January 9, 1975. Staff report: Ms. Kramer said the staff has worked with the homeowners and applicant. The plans have been reviewed by the homeowners and they are very pleased. Main concern was to block view of the center from the cul-de-sac areas and to screen the wall. She noted that Wheaton Drive had not been included. Staff felt it was within this committee's perogative to suggest it be included, then the City Council could put it in resolution. If Vallco Park does not do it, then the City must put in landscaping. Member Koenitzer questioned whether the runner plant on wall at Merritt Drive would be evergreen in this climate. Mr. Will Lester, representative of Vallco Park, said he had met with six individual property owners. Vallco had agreed with what homeowners had requested. He noted they would be putting in pyracantha bushes to try to keep the kids from climbing over fence. Mr. Lester said with regard to Wheaton Drive this was not discussed and not required on use permit. The application concerns the three cul-de-sacs only and conforms with use permit. Mr. Walter Ward, General Manager of Vallco Park, said the plant questioned by Member Koenitzer is used in this area on freeways and can be considered an evergreen. Ms. Kramer pointed out it would have a western exposure. Chairwoman Sallan suggested they might want to check with the resi- dents to make sure they are aware this plant may be one that loses its leaves. Member Rogers commented the homeowners had told her how happy they were with Vallco Park's attitude. HC -130 Page 5 HC -51,264.1 .continued HC -51,075.40 Vallco Park Regional Shopping Center Mr. Lester said whatever the homeowners determined corner of Auburn Drive, Vallco Park would follow suit in that right of way. HC -130 MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 6 Member Rogers pointed out Tam junipers are subject to disease. She asked who would maintain redwood trees on property owner's side of the fence. Mr. Lester said the trees would be maintained by the property owner. Member Rogers also questioned turningradiusat end of Auburn Drive. It was clarified there is ample room. With regard to bringing the soil up to bottom of fence, Member Rogers questioned whether there would be any washing away of the soil. :Mr. Lester said it would be a very easy slope, approximately 18 in. over 16 ft. Member Rogers noted the fence at Meadow Avenue did not look well. She asked if this fence would be the same. Mr. Lester said they would be maintaining the fence and getting it back in shape. He explained the fence was climbed on by children which had caused loosened nails. Mr. Lester said the fence had been redesigned for these three cul-de-sacs. Member Dressler ascertained lights at end of cul-de-sacs would be those designated by the City. Chairwoman Sallan noted a determination should be made on Wheaton Drive. Mr. Ward said this was not owned by Vallco Park. The City did not include Wheaton in use permit. To make a change at this time would delay project by a -couple - of --months; it was too late in the game now to make this change. He referred to the 35 conditions on center, noting they are changing landscaping, raising wall to 8 ft. and changing lights on Sears property. Three of the committee members felt it was too late to include Wheaton. Chairwoman Sallan said she thought it was desirable to have landscaping on Wheaton and found it incredible that it would hold up entire project. She pointed out the expenditure would not be a large one. Mr. Ward said they might plant ivy on the wall. The Assistant Planner was asked to give the staff's thinking. Ms. Kramer said staff felt if the City could improve the cul-de-sac, perhaps Vallco Park would do the landscaping. After further discussion, it was noted the committee's concensus was that Vallco Park not be responsible for Wheaton. The hearing was opened to comments from the audience. Mr. Roy Gustafson, 19640 Auburn Drive, Cupertino, said Vallco Park has really worked on this. Regarding the planting of pyracantha this would not stop kids from climbing over wall. Their plans are to make wall considerably, higher. He noted Mr. Shumate had lived on the corner of Auburn Drive for six months and had been robbed twice. He said he would be going along with whatever Mr. Painter MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Mr. C. A. Davis, 19625 Merritt Drive, Cupertino, said they were very pleased with the overall planting on this. The cooperation between the City, Vallco and homeowners has created very good solutions. There being no further comments from the audience, Member Koenitzer moved to close Public Hearings. Seconded by Member Dressler. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of Application HC -51,075.40 to the City Council with standard conditions, Exhibits C-3, 4, 5 and 6, and the following condition: (1) To highly commend Vallco for its work with adjacent property owners as evidenced by the fact that two were willing to come down and speak to excellent cooperation received from Vallco. Seconded by Member Dressler. Motion carried, 4-0 It was noted the application had been approved and would be heard by the City Council at its February 3, 1975 meeting. 3. Application HC -51,339 of Merritt Sher (Terranomics Corpora- tion) requesting approval of modification of site, architec ture, landscaping and grading for a commercial development located at the east side of Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road, south of Silverado Avenue. Continued from H -Control meeting of January 9, 1975. While the Assistant Planner distributed plans to the committee, Mr. Merritt Sher spoke relative to procedure. He suggested at 10:00 or 10:30 p.m. it could be announced how many more could expect to be heard. Also as on item 1, if the applicant is not present it could be moved to later in the meeting. Member Rogers ascertained the new drawings superseded the original. Staff report: The Assistant Planner noted that since the original approval the applicant had had difficulty in obtaining financing and tenants. This has caused them to redesign the retail store structure. She explained changes being proposed, noting that the Coco's portion of application had not been changed. HC -130 Page 7 Public Hearing; closed HC -51,075.40 approved HC -51,339 Terranomics Corporation HC -130 I MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 8 Staff has suggested the roof line be continued around the north elevation, not only for visual reasons to help screen the air conditioning equipment on the roof. The landscaping plans are essentially the same. One condition of previous approval was two additional Olive trees in front. These had not been included in plans. With regard to grading, it is a substantially flat site with no retaining walls. Before discussing site, the matter of signing was discussed. It was pointed out there are areas on architectural elevations that will hold signs. There are no ground plans indicated at this time. Chairwoman Sallan noted Member Koenitzer had made the point many times that it is not unreasonable to consider ground sign now. Mr. Merritt Sher, 440 Pacific Street, San Francisco, said they do not have tenants now. He said the sign would be something that was neat, consistent and would relate well. He felt it was premature to require sign until they knew who the tenants would be and had worked something out with them. Chairwoman Sallan noted it was a conceptual type signing that was wanted. Mr. Sher said they would go along with whatever the City wanted. Signing is critical to the tenants and they would like to get tenant input. Member Koenitzer noted they are permitted one ground sign, and they would have to make up their minds what they will do with the ground sign. This could be done now in terms of general size of sign, area part of sign for each tenant; they haven't even shown the location of sign. Mr. Sher said that now Coco intends to have something on side of building. Ms. Kramer said as far as the ground sign is concerned, it can tie in with architecture at later date. She noted concern about where Coco's sign would go if the ground sign were to be for center identification only. Mr. Sher pointed out where the sign would be put on the Coco's restaurant. Mr. John Robertson, 1038 McKinley, Oakland, said they had anticipated they would have to return for approval on signs. He did not under- stand why the rest of the application could not be heard. Chairwoman Sallan reiterated the committee's preference to have the sign approach worked out at conceptual stage. MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING At 8:45 p.m. a recess was taken with the meeting reconvening at 8:55 p.m. Site: In answer to Member Koenitzer, Mr. Sher said all the land- scaping and paving would be done with the exception of the rear and north side. Chairwoman Sallan said she would like more landscaping in parking lot. Mr. Sher suggested marking two stalls as compact and putting in tree wells in center parking area. Chairwoman Sallan suggested having less sidewalk in front of building and putting a landscaped strip down the center. After discussion, Mr. Sher said they would squeeze it in some way. Member Dressler suggested rounding all curb points. The applicant agreed. Architecture: Member Koenitzer said he liked the new drawings. He referred to extending building wall or parapet to hide the air conditioning equipment. Mr. Robertson said with the 2-1/2' or 3' parapet wall; the ground slope would create line -of -sight that would hide the equipment. Member Koenitzer pointed out it is a City requirement and asked for his professional assurance that air conditioning equipment would not be visible from any direction. Mr. Robertson said it was their intention to do this. Staff member Kramer asked if it turned out something needed to be done, what was the committee's preference. The concensus of the committee was that a wall extension would be satisfactory. Samples of building materials were distributed. Mr. Robertson answered Member Dressler that the glass in front would be clear glass. Member Dressler noted the colored glass enhances appearances. Mr. Robertson said it was expensive and the tenants didn't like it. It was pointed out two stores face the west. Chairwoman Sallan noted the back looked very plain and wondered if the landscaping would modify this. Landscaping: Member Koenitzer ascertained there were no changes from previous application. Chairwoman Sallan said she was not impressed with frontage landscaping. Mr. Sher said it was the same treatment used, at most Coco's. He said the two Olive trees as conditioned on last approval would be included. HC -130 Page 9 HC -130 Page 10 MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 2'3, 1975 1I -CONTROL MEETING Chairwoman Sallan said she did not think the ground cover and Lily - of -the -Nile as proposed would make a very meaningful landscaping. Mr. Robertson pointed out there were some camphor trees also. Chairwoman Sallan felt there should be some type of greenery in front of the stores. She suggested several methods; cutting out chunks of concrete and having ivy growing up the posts or planter tubs. Mr. Sher said they were putting a strip down the center of the parking aisle and noted again how limited they are on space. He said he hated to squeeze in plants if they couldn't be given proper space for growth and maintenance. Chairwoman Sallan asked if they would like to continue the landscap- ing portion of the application. Mr. Sher pointed out they had taken some space from the building to make center strip. He said he would study this some more and if some way could be worked out, something would be put in. Member Dressler suggested tree wells in the parking aisles back of Coco's. The applicant agreed. Chairwoman Sallan spoke to the mounding. She pointed out the mounding would not conform to the interim landscaping guidelines regarding,the shielding of parking lots and. would have to satis- fy this criteria. Mr. Sher said they would have to discuss this with Coco's. Mr. Robertson said it was unrealistic to say you can screen cars with mounding and landscaping, but they were trying to do what is compatible to screen cars. Chairwoman Sallan noted she was concerned after listening to them and would prefer continuing landscaping portion of the application. Mr. Sher said their intent was to do as well as they could. He suggested putting in parking lot and the mounding to see how effective it was and to give them a point of comparison. Member Rogers said the 2-1/2 ft. mound with grass might be pleasing. Member .Koenitzer said it would be different from the wall of shrub usually put in. Ms. Kramer pointed out the City Council had shown on interest in getting complete applications. Chairwoman Sallan said she had raised the concern because she felt this was the time to do it. Grading was satisfactory. Chairwoman Sallan said she felt it would be appropriate to give them signing guidelines. Member Koenitzer suggested there be no signing approved until they have a general approach for all the signing. The committee agreed. MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING The hearing was opened to public comments. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved to close Public Hearings. Seconded by Member Rogers. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Dressler inquired about lighting plans. Ms. Kramer noted there were none. at this time but these could be brought in at the same time as the signing. Member Dressler moved to recommend approval of Application HC -51,339 to the City Council, Exhibits A 2nd Rev., B 1st Rev, and D 1st Rev., subject to standard ASAC conditions and the following special condi- tions: (1) That the applicant and City staff resolve the visual impact of roof issue by constructing line -of -sight drawings. Should the north and east walls need extending, an extension of the wall be the wall building materials. (2) That a 3 ft. landscaping bed be added as located or, Exhibit A 2nd Rev, and that design of the building be modified to accomodate the landscaping. (3) To add two tree well planters in parking strip to the south of Bldg. 3 and behind Coco's restaurant.. (4) That the applicant to consider planter boxes or box trees to be placed in front of retail shops. (5) Applicant to consider the use of a tinted glass that is architecturally aesthetic to the project. (6) Applicant is to return with a sign and lighting plan for the entire project. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. AYES: Members.Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 Chairwoman Sallan announced the application had been approved and would be before the City Council on February 3, 1975. HC -130 Page 11 Public Hearin closed HC -51, 339 approved w, conditions HC -130 Page 12 HC -51, 342. Brentwood Market MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 IL -CONTROL MEETING 4. Application HC -51,342.1 of Ad -Art, Inc. (Brentwood Market) requesting approval of a ground sign for an existing commercial development located at 10075 East Estates Drive. Continued from H -Control meeting of October 10, 1974. The committee agreed to consider item 5 in conjunction with item 4. 5. Application HC -51,342.2 of Advance Coiffures (Mrs. Liebmann) requesting approval of a sign plan for a commercial develop- ment located at 19610 Stevens Creek Boulevard. Continued from H -Control meeting of October 24, 1974. Staff report: The Assistant Planner reviewed these two applications. The change of copy for the ground sign had been continued to give the applicant, owner and staff a chance to redesign the pole sign so that the height could be lowered to conform to City requirements. The applicant had tried to incorporate existing signs into the ground sign. She referred to alternates presented by the sign company. Staff felt the Brentwood portion could be reduced. She displayed a rendering and a transparency. Chairwoman Sallan ascertained it was about 4 ft. from ground to the bottom of the sign. The total height of proposed sign is now 17-1/2 ft. Ms. Kramer clarified there is no change of sign cans on this sign. It could be stipulated that all signs in the future be of a certain background. Chairwoman Sailan pointed out the actual colors would be different from those shown in rendering. Mr. Mel Peterson, 1715 64th Street, Emeryville, gave the background of his involvement with this application. He said he had tried to come up with a program that would be of least cost to the tenants and also some concerns of the City. The first he had heard of staff's objection to Brentwood sign size was when he read the staff report. He felt the size was very adequate and not an objectionable thing. To reduce to staff's recommendation would make it ineffective and would not be that much better from design point of view. He pointed out they had done everything that was asked of them and suddenly here is another problem. Mr. Peterson pointed out also that Brentwood is absorbing expense as the tenants are not interested. Member Koenitzer said that in looking at drawing the top seems too wide for the rest of it. If Brentwood wished to keep that shape, he would suggest something about 14 ft. x 3 ft. high. He was concerned about proportions of top to the rest of the sign. MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING In answer to Member Rogers, Mr. Peterson said the new roof signs would go up as the tenants are replaced or as their leases come up. The effect of the new Sign Ordinance on this sign was discussed. Ms. Kramer said the amortization period of this sign would start as soon as it was erected to whatever period is decided upon. Member Dressler asked if Brentwood Market would accept the smaller sign. Mr. Peterson said he could not say; they are principally interested in getting this resolved. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out the concern was that having it 4 ft. from the ground would make the sign seem massive. Mr. Peterson said it was out of this concern that he had shown the poles starting at 6 ft. He referred to alternates submitted. He felt this was aesthetically better. Cars are approximately 5 ft. so the sign could be seen over cars parked at curb. Chairwoman Sallan said she was convinced the 6 ft. might be better from what she had seen in other signs in the City and from documents submitted during the sign hearings. Member Rogers said she would just as soon see it raised several feet and the Brentwood sign reduced a little so it doesn't stick out so far. The desired proportions were discussed. Chairwoman Sallan noted if the sign were 6 ft. from the ground this would allow for landscaping underneath the post. Member Rogers pointed out the planter box was already in. Mr. Peterson said he could not speak for Brentwood but would impart the information to the landlord. Member Koenitzer noted it seemed the committee always ended up talking to the tenants and not the landlord.. Ms. Kramer suggested condition- ing approval on owner upgrading landscaping in planter box. Discussion of. Advance Coiffures application. Photos of existing sign were distributed. The sign is 2 ft. x 6 ft. and has a white backgroun with green letters. Staff had talked with applicant who is willing to make the minor adjustments to the sign to make it conform to the new sign proposed. The changes would involve the additional wood trim around the sign and the relocation of the sign so that it is placed over the canopy rather than along the top of the roof line. Mr. Peterson described the wood trim. It was noted the majority of the existing signs are white with interior illumination. Most are now 800 milliamps but probably putting out equivalent of 400 milliamps Mr. Peterson said if existing signs were required to change lamps they would be talking about a totally new sign. His approach had been to put on wood wrap and use existing signs. IIC-130 Page 13 HC -1.30 Page 14 Public Hear- ing closed MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING The general sign program for the center was discussed. The signs would have white backgrounds with colored letters, depending on different -tenants. The signs would be 3 ft. x length allowed per store frontage. New signs would have 400 milliamp lamps. Mr. John Liebmann, 1520 Condon Way, Sunnyvale, said their sign is currently 2 ft. He found it difficult to know why a- larger sign would be more aesthetic to building. Chairwoman Sallan explained the intent of the sign program to Mr. Liebmann. Mr. Peterson said when he planned the sign program he had taken two items into consideration. He had thought the Advance Coiffures sign was 3 ft. high and that was why he had used that height. Chairwoman Sallan felt it was unrealistic to expect the applicant to get a new sign at this point. Mr. Liebmann explained why the sign had been erected without approval. He said the previous sign had left bad mark on building. Since the landlord didn't want to paint whole front of building, the sign was placed over the mark. If it is lowered, the mark will show. Member Dressler noted Brentwood Market had been repainted. He suggested .they must have some paint leftover. Ms. Kramer said the committee could direct that it be repainted and taken care of. She also pointed out that Mr.. Paterson had prepared sign program as a favor to the City. Chairwoman Sallan asked if this was a desirable approach as presented tonight or would they want to Wait and ask for more. Member Rogers said she was satisfied. Member Koenitzer said it couldn't help but be an improvement. Chairwoman Sallan reminded them they are talking about a future sign program that might be there 20 years from now. Member Dressler said it was an older building and set back from the street. He felt it was the best they could do. Mr. Peterson said he would make the •tenants aware of the overall sign program. The hearing was opened to comments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Hearing. Motion carried, 4-0 MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of Application HC -51,342.1 to the City Council with the standard conditions, exhibits and following special conditions: (1) That Brentwood part of pole sign be reduced to a width of 15 ft. and a proportionate height. (2) That there be 6 ft. from the ground to the bottom of the pole sign instead of 4 ft. (3) That the landlord is to be required to plant some shrubs in planter around ground sign to grow to a height of 3 ft. to 5 ft. Seconded by Member Rogers. It was discussed whether to put a cap on height of ground sign. Since it was under 20 ft. this was not felt necessary. AYES,: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 The application Was announced as approved and would be heard by the City Council on February 3, 1975. Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of Application HC -51,342.2 to the City Council with the standard conditions and as proposed by exhibit, with the following special conditions: (1) That it be centered vertically on facade of building. (2) That the area presently covered by the sign be painted by the owner to match the rest of the building. Seconded by Member Dressler. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 The following resolution was then directed to the City Council. HC -130 Page 15 HC -51,342.1 approved w/ conditions HC -51,342.2 approved w/ conditions HC -130 Page 16 RESOLUTION Sign program, for shopping plaza at E. Estates Drive & Stevens Creek Blvd. HC -51,283.4 Con'd. HC -51,334.12 Mercury Savii & Loan Assoc MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Koenitzer moved for a resolution to the City Council for a sign program for the shopping plaza at East Estates Drive and Stevens Creek Boulevard; adoption of the following sign program for upgrading signing within the plaza. (1) The sign program to be as shown on Exhibit F-3 of Application HC -51,342.1. (2) That the signs have white background of code # W7328. (3) That they be centered on the parapet and that new signs are required to use the low intensity fluorescent lighting. (4) Sign applications conforming to the sign program for the center can be approved by staff. However it is within the discretion of staff to submit to H -Control. Seconded by Member Rogers. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 Chairwoman Sallan announced the applications had been approved and would be heard by City Council on February 3, 1975. 6. Application HC -51,283.4 of Storieson Development Corporation. Continued per applicant's request. 7. Application HC -51,334.12 of Mercury Savings and Loan Association requesting approval of a directional sign for a bank facility located at the south side of Stevens Creek Boulevard approximately 200 ft. westerly of the inter- section of East Estates Drive and Stevens Creek Boulevard adjacent to the Calabazas Creek. Staff report. The Assistant Planner noted that usually the committee does not review on -site directional signs for banks since most are small and not visible to the general public. In this case, the sign will be placed on Stevens Creek Boulevard and will be 5 ft. in height. The sign will also advertise that the bank facility is open from 10 to 4 on Saturday. Staff suggested it be reduced some in size and be given temporary approval to reflect the possible closing of the driveway when the property to the west develops. ft MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Mr. Tony Rowe, Division Manager for Mercury Savings & Loan Assoc., said they had discussed this with the Planning Department and based on their recommendations they have submitted this plan. They feel they need it because of traffic on Stevens Creek Boulevard. It conforms with square footage and also ordinance says they can have a sign if they have 200 ft. on frontage; they have 260 ft. In response to Member Rogers, Mr. Rowe said he had not discussed the temporary aspect with corporation headquarters to find their feelings. Member Koenitzer said he could approve sign indicating entrance but not the part noting they are open. on Saturdays.. If this part of sign were dropped, a 3 ft. sign could suffice. Mr. Rowe said they never advertise in paper except for opening and to thank public for participating. Iie spoke of the Community Room available to public which needs sign. Member Dressler agreed with Member Koenitzer; the sign is big and obtrusive. Member Koenitzer noted it was not size; he just didn't think this visual approach was needed in Cupertino. Mr. Rowe said they were only banking facility open in Cupertino on Saturday and they were having trouble communicating this to the people. Chairwoman Sallan agreed they needed the entrance sign. She agreed the open Saturday changed the quality of 'the entire project. She suggested putting this on the door; also could be part of door-to- door literature. The hearing was opened to public comment. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 Chairwoman Sallan said the options were to approve application with conditions, deny application or continue application. Mr. Rowe asked that a decision be given. Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of Application HC -51, 334.12 with the standard conditions and the following special conditions: (1) That the "Open Saturday" portion of the sign be deleted completely and the entrance part be lowered so that it is a total height of 3 ft. HC -130 Page 17 Public Hearin closed HC -51,344.12 approved w/ conditions IIC-130 Page 18 MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING (2) That the entrance sign is to remain only as long as this is used as an entrance. This condition is imposed because of the possibility of change at some future date to the access to the building due to the development of area. (3) Sign colors are to match those of Mercury Savings sign on building. Seconded by Member Dressler. Member Rogers expressed her concern that since they do not advertise and they do such nice things for the community that it would not hurt to have the "Open Saturday" for a temporary period. A brief discussion followed. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: Member Rogers Motion carried, 3-1 The applicant was informed of the approval with conditions and that it would be heard by the City Council on February 3, 1975. n -C-51 002.10 8. Application HC -5 1,002.10 of Elmano Homem requesting approval ElOs.no Homem of site, architecture, landscaping and grading for a duplex located in the La Cresta Subdivision, Lot A, Tract 2769. Staff report: The Assistant Planuer reported that because a tower line easement across the property makes part of it unusable, this property had recently been rezoned from R3-2.2 to R2-4.25. The front setback is 42 ft. because of easement and 30 ft. from Foothill Blvd. Because'of amount of noise of trucks from Foothill Blvd. staff suggested a 6 ft. high solid fence or wall be placed at least 12 ft. from property line along with trees to help create a better living environment. Ms. Kramer described the adjacent property and elevations. She answered Member Dressler that the property is slightly higher than Foothill Blvd. There are no windows on back portion that cause visual intrusion. Back faces a carport for adjacent apartments. There is a need for retaining wall on property next to triplex lot. Some preliminary grading has been done. Slides were shown of property and adjacent areas. MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Mr. Elmano Homem, 13350 Montebello Drive, Cupertino, answered Member Dressler that he would be living in building. Member Dressler thought the building looked boxy without much character. He suggeste a bigger overhang on roof. Mr. Homem said he had planned on a gable roof at each end which the architect hadn't included. The Assistant Planner asked about outdoor area for renters; Mr. Homen said there was no special area for them. Member Koenitzer asked if City Code required a second. entrance for the second story apartment. Ms. Kramer said she would check.. Mr. Homem said the roof would be either wood shake or tile; he would prefer the shake. The color of the building would be oyster white. Site: There were no questions. Architecture: Member Koenitzer agreed with Member Dressler. The Foothill Blvd. and Alpine Drive faces are rather blab. The gable end would help. Mr. Homem suggested planter box on Alpine Dr. elevation above the garage door. Member Dressler suggested ornament iron decorations could be used. Member Koenitzer asked about staff's suggestion of a 6 ft. masonry fence along Foothill Blvd. to help cut down on noise from traffic. Mr. Homem said he thought it would not look very nice. Ms. Kramer explained staff's position to him. Chairwoman Sallan said that with trees in front it might look nice. Mr. Homem said he would not like to build the wall unless it turned out to be necessary. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out if there is to be a wall, he could come back in for approval. Landscaping: Member Rogers said she liked the vegetable garden. The Italian Cypress to be planted along Foothill Blvd. was questioned It was noted this tree grows tall, and narrow. Further discussion was held on outdoor space for renter. Member Koenitzer noted there should be some shrubs interspersed among the perennials and annuals along house and walkway. Mr. Homem did not know what was planned. Chairwoman Sallan said some trees should be planted on the back perimeter and along the eastern boundary. HC -130 Page 19 HC -130 Page 20 Public Hear- ing closed HC -51,002.10 approved w/ conditions MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1975 H -CONTROL MEETING Grading: It was noted there will be a 6 ft. fence above retaining wall on eastern perimeter. The hearing was opened for public comments. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved to close Public Hearing. Seconded by Member Rogers. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Rogers moved to recommend approval of HC -51,002.10 to the City Council with the enclosed exhibits, standard conditions and the follow- ing special conditions: (1) That there be a gable on the west in the front. (2) That the color of the building be oyster white. (3) That landscaping include shrubs against wall on west; that there be 5 evergreen trees of Pine, Redwood or similar variety that grow to a considerable height planted on eastern perimeter: (4) That applicant not be restricted to Italian Cypress. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. A lengthy discussion was held regarding use of Italian Cypress. Chairwoman Sallan suggested he research this carefully before planting the Italian Cypress. Motion carried, 4-0 Announcement was made that request had been approved and would be heard by City Council on February 3, 1975. 9. Discussion of Grasscrete - continued NEW BUSINESS Chairwoman Sallan asked to have the discussion on cutting down of trees agendized. . Also a discussion on landscape installation program: i.e., after applications have been approved a time frame for installation as well as maintenance checks on things that have been recently installed and things that are existing in City. MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23,. ].975 li-CONTROL MEETING Member Dressler asked about I1 -Control being changed to Commission rather than Committee. Chairwoman Sallan said she had talked with Mr. Kilian and he felt they could be a Commission. It was decided to ask 'Ir. Kilian to write up what the difference is between a Commission and a Committee and they would then discuss it and take whatever action they considered appropriate. The Assistant Planner' referred to discussions about changing format of this body. She forwarded several considerations being studied. Chairwoman Sallan noted the Ordinance should be looked at also. A lot of people are confused about what H -Control is. It was decided to agendize this for discussion also. Chairwoman Sallan reported on a meeting she had had with City Manager in regard to minimum pay for this committee. Mr. Quinlan would research and forward his statements and theirs along to the City Council. In answer to Member Rogers, Ms. Kramer said the Citizen Survey would concentrate on Parks & Recreation. ADJOURN TENT At 12:00 midnight the meeting was adjourned to the next regular meeting on February 6, 1975 at 7:00 p.m. Motion carried, 4-0 APPROVED: Is! C. Nancy Sallan Chairwoman ATTEST: LLj. E. Ryder City Clerk IIC-130 Page 21