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HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes 11-07-1974CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE HELD ON NOVEMBER 7, 1974 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was opened at 7:11 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Members present: Dressler (7:20), Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan Members absent: None Staff present: AssistantPlanner Toby Kramer Assistant Planner Steve Piasecki INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATION 28-U--74 Anthony Musolino: Construction of six single-family units located adjacent to and westerly of Miller Avenue at the southwest intersection of Miller Avenue and Calabazas Creek approximately 120 feet northerly of Greenwood Court. Assistant Planner Piasecki located site under discussion. An aerial photo and site plan were exhibited. He noted the biggest concern was cars backing out onto Miller Avenue. An elevation of the units was exhibited to the committee members. Mr. Marty Hess of Dick Finnegan said this was a hard lot to work.witi because of its shape. The units were to be sold rather than rented. With regard to back-up situation, Miller Avenue is islanded, there is a good sight line down biller Avenue and controls at either end which would help negate problem. Members Dressler and Weinstein felt since 90% of houses used this same back-up situation, this was not a serious concern. Members Koenitzer and Rogers and Chairwoman Sallan agreed this was a concern. HC -125 Page 1 28-U-74 Anthony Musolino HC -125 MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 2 Member Koenitzer suggested extending island barrier to north of to insure no left hand turns into property. Mr. Piasecki exhibited a plan for five units with circular driveway. After further discussion, the following points were stressed: Site - Concern of back-up situation - Concrete look to frontage - View of garages from Miller Avenue - Privacy of yards - Extension of median Architecture - since oriented to Miller Avenue, attention should be paid to making garages attractive. Conceptual landscaping - Maximize what is done to frontage since the garages are oriented to the street. Minutes of 10/17/74 approved as amended Ms. Kramer said she would be presenting a modification request from a eo _ ark an - an s taping -p a - ar-_ z ge-res - aVillasu d New Business. - APPROVAL OF MINi1TES I1inutes of October 17, 1974 On page 2, paragraph 4, I•lember Koenitzer wished the second line to read "......which would be in present imperative tense." On page 2, paragraph 9, the first sentence should read "....of temporary driveways being included in guidelines." Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to approve 17, 19-74 -fie — -- an , _O - Abstain: Weinstein j MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Minutes of October 24, 1974 On page 10, paragraph 5, Chairwoman Sallan wished the second line to read "....criticized and have been on occasion objectionable to" On page 2, paragraph 3, Member Koenitzer said the third line should read, "...growth on it and the liquid asphalt topping would mitigate dust factor. The liquid asphalt topping would look like regular asphalt topping." HC -125 Page 3 Since these were the minutes referred to in newspaper article, Member Dressler expressed concern that minutes were being quoted before being approved, pointing out that Councilman involved was not present at the meeting. Ms. Kramer said that the City Council had asked to have minutes of meetings attached to any applications forwarded to them. She said the committee could make a Minute Order of their concern or just have it noted in the record of this meeting. Minutes of 10/24/74 Member Koenitzer then moved to approve Minutes of October 24, 1974 approved as as amended. Seconded by Member Rogers. amended Motion carried, 5-0 POSTPONEMENTS - None WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - Ms. Kramer advised the committee there would be a meeting regarding League of California Cities Convention at the Horse Ranch on November 14, 1974 at 8:00 p.m. No item will be initiated after 11:30 p.m. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. Application HC -51,068.1 of Bill Eng (Ho Ho Restaurant) requesting approval of a sign plan for arestaurant facility located on the northwest corner of Bollinger Road and Blaney Avenue in the All American Shopping Center. Staff report: Ms. Kramer said the applicant is requesting approval of two wall signs for an existing restaurant in the All American Shopping Center. A change of copy was granted in February, 1973. The applicant failed to obtain a permit and installed a sign differ- ing from the approved one. They are therefore requesting legaliza- HC-51,068.1 Ho Ho Restaurant HC -125 Page 4 MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING tion of the existing sign as well as seeking approval for the Bollinger Road sign. There is another sign at the rear of the restaurant. Staff suggested this sign be removed. Slides were shown of the center and restaurant. Member Koeniter =suggested reversing coors: i.e. sign wauld_have rel_____ characters and blue lettering. Mr. Gene Maddox, representing restaurant owner, said with regard to sign at rear of restaurant, this was for delivery purposes and did not show from the street. He pointed out Ram Realty had several signs there. Ms. Kramer noted these had not been approved. --₹t was- suggested. -that Ho Ho Restaurant could be placed o -n door -- to identify for deliveries. This was agreed to by the applicant. Mr. Maddox asked why this couldn't be handled "over the counter". and Chairwoman Sallan explained this was a policy of procedure to review applications for signing in the City. The meeting was opened for comments from the public. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Publi-Hearings . Motion carried, 5-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval to the City Council of Application HC -51,068.1 with standard conditions and exhibits and with the following special conditions: (1) That the letters and characters colors be the same as the colors of the characters and letters on the Blaney Street side: i.e. the Chinese characters and English letters are to be the same as on the Blaney Street side. (2) Painted sign on rear of building be painted over. If identification is needed for deliveries, it can be placed on the door. HC -51,6 Seconded by Member Rogers. conditions -Motion-carrie ,- 5-U MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING The applicant was notified the approved modification would now be heard by the City Council at its November 18, 1974 meeting. Member Rogers ascertained the staff would now check on Ram Realty signs. 2. Vallco Park Modification to Parking Lot Ms. Kramer said Vallco is now in midst of grading site for regional center. They have come in with plans for parking lot adjacent to financial center on east side of Wolfe Road. The Assistant Planner showed plans of shopping center. Vallco is proposing to lower parking lot 10 ft. into ground which will make it hidden from Wolfe Road. There will be the same number of stalls and the same ratio of compact and regular size cars. Landscaping from the curb to parking area has been increased. She displayed proposed configuration. The staff's only concern was the anticipated widening on Wolfe Road. They wanted to assure that any widening of street would not call for cutting of slope. They have ascertained there will be enough room on flat portion to take care of any widening. The meeting was opened for comments from the public. Mr. Walter Ward, General Manager of Vallco Park, said the reason for lowering parking lot was to give it a better outlook from the financial center which is glass and will have a view of this park- ing lot. It is also a convenience to the City as the yardage of dirt being moved will not interfere with traffic. In answer to Member Rogers, Mr. Ward said a second level of parking this lot would depend on future development. This configuration would allow for construction of top level in the event public transit in the future would allow addition to the financial center. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out this was aesthetic and reasons lent support to earlier discussions on this application. Member Dressler asked about the possibility of not raising Penney's and not depressing this lot. Mr. Ward said it was in Penney's agreement and they are past that point in time. HC -125 Page 5 er IC -125 MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 7, 1974 H -CONTROL 'MEETING Page 6 ing change of the parking lot on the east side of Wolfe Road south of Vallco approved Parkway. Seconded by Member Rogers. Motion carried, 5-0 Chairwoman Sallan advised Mr. Ward the application had been approved. Member Rogers ascertained the final landscaping plans would be presented in about 8 weeks. 3. Ridgecrest Park Villas Slope Landscaping Plan tidgecrest Assistant Planner Kramer noted this application had been approved Park Villas Landscaping L the condidon thaL the lower slope landscape plan co-ordinate with the proposed Horse Ranch Park. The concern was that the areas on the slope should be compatible with what happened in the Horse Ranch. The project is completed and the landscaping is now ready to be installed. She referred to letters from Armis K. Horita of Horita Landscaping and memo-yfrom Directorf Parks and Recreation dated November 6, 1974. _--- in answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Horita, 4109 Forestwood Drive, _ m San Jose, described the landscaping being proposed. The meeting was opened to public comment. There were none. Public Hear- e Rogers, Lo -close _- -- ing closed ii it ublic Hearing. Member Koenitzer moved to approve proposed landscaping for hillside Landscaping 3 pp L U VCU F p VL Li_UU U. lu llU L U C A. aL a vs s . Ali L.viauv..0 vJ A. LLLL it'J S . The Assistant Planner referred to Urban Design Gu1dellnes ror Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road Parkway dated November 1, 1974, 81,054.1.` It had been decided to send to City Council as soon as possible as there are developers waiting to hear on guidelines. Modifica- tions could be made on conceptual plans at a later date. Ms. Kramer proposed the committee study Mr. Coleman's exhibits one more time and if satisfactory, the guidelines could be approved tonight. J MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Ms. Kramer said with regard to medians, entrances to City, signing and other possible desired amenities, there would b.e separate resolutions attached. She asked the committee too look at the median plans; these will be given to developers as something the City will be working with. Member Koenitzer felt the signing should be addressed some place in paragraph 2 if these are urban design elements. The committee would have to think of what they would like to see in terms of landscaping and the planning for signs would have to be integrated with landscaping plans. Another point would be that signs would only be allowed at curb cuts and only one sign per curb cut. Member Weinstein said he did not think it worth while holding these guidelines up for signing. He didn't think any progress had been made by the ad hoc sign committee. A good sign ordinance would take care of any lot in the city. Chairwoman Sallan suggested a statement could be made to the effect that signing should be compatible with landscaping approach along the frontage. Ms. Kramer suggested changing this back to landscaping guidelines as there are elements left out. The committee could work within guidelines of general sign program and take each planned development application as it comes in. Member Koenitzer said he felt there should be some general statement before starting to treat individual applications. Member Dressler agreed with Member Weinstein that signing should not be integrated into guidelines; Member Rogers agreed with Member Koenitzer. After further discussion, a recess was taken at 8:50 p.m. with the meeting reconvening at 9:07 p.m. Member Koenitzer noted he would submit his marked up copy of guidelines to staff. He suggested meandering sidewalks be used where parking was not permitted on auxiliary streets. Ms. Kramer expressed her concern about changing type of sidewalk. Member Koenitzer said meandering sidewalks with landscaping on both sides would look better than straight sidewalks in areas where parking is not permitted. Member Rogers said she would submit her copy of guidelines with markings to staff also. HC -125 Page 7 HC -125 Page 8 Guidelines accepted as modified 5 Meetings to be o-rr-1st and Ord Thurs. 9 Planting not Plaza .yewspaper Article MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Chairwoman Sallan wished it to be clarified that mounding was not--i� intended on both sides of the sidewalk. After further discussion, Member Koenitzer moved to accept Landscaping Guidelines of November 1, -1974 as modified. Seconded by Member Rogers. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 rworna S -al an_ o -t -e d-- had been approved and complimented Ms. Kramer on her efforts in this behalf - NEW BUSINESS Member Weinstein asked if Thursday would continue to be the regular day for this committee to meet. After discussion, it was agreed this was agreeableto all the committee members. Member Rogers moved that change of meeting to Thursdays be -pe-r anent . Seconded---by--Member Weinstein. Motion carried, 5-0 Ghma Oman Sallan noted a general announcement should be made. Chairwoman Sallan mentioned Portal Plaza still has dirt piled on Stevens Creek Boulevard and Portal Avenue side. She said there should be a procedure for when planting would be done. Ms. Kramer said there is a bond for this development and explained difficulties involved. Staff will check with the developer to see when planting -is scheduled. A brief discussion was held. With reference to the newspaper article in the San Jose Mercury regarding signs, Member Koenitzer said he was more concerned about Councilman Meyers' remarks than about the newspaper article Member Weinstein said there are areas that are totally arbitrary and subjective. This emphasized -t e -nee -_ or__a new sign ordinance. Crwoman SalIan-said she -was -discouraged about the apparent lack of support for the committee and what they are trying to do. She felt the committee had done some good things but felt they were undermined by articles such as this. If Councilman Meyers is comfortable MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING with article there is a problem; if he is not comfortable with the article then something should be done to clarify his position to avoid this in the future. If there is. a problem the committee should be advised first. ADJOURNMENT At 9:47 p.m. the me ting was adjourned to November 21, 1974 at 7:00 p.m. ATTEST: 1s/ Wm. E. Ryder City Clerk II APPROVED: /s/ C. Nancy Sallan Chairwoman HC -125 Page 9