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HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes 10-24-1974CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COPll'[ITTEE HELD ON OCTOBER 24, 1974 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was called to order at 7:11 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Members present: Dressler (7:35), Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan Members absent: None Staff present: Assistant Planner Toby Kramer INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATION: 28-U-74 Anthony Musolino: Construction of six single-family units located adjacent to and westerly of Miller Avenue at the southwest intersection of Miller Avenue and Calabazas Creek approximately 120 feet northerly of Greenwood Court. The Assistant Planner reported this review had been postponed as modifications were being made to the plans. Ms. Kramer said Mr. Merritt Sher of Coco's was present. It had been understood the entire development would be built at one time; how- ever only Coco's will be installed at this time, and the exhibited proposal was being offered for H -Control approval. Member Koenitzer expressed concern that development should be finished without waiting for 3 to 5 years which would defeat .purpose of planned development. Ms. Kramer said there is a plan for the entire development, and they will make sure the City gets amenities as quickly as possible. She explained what would be built at this time, referring to displayed exhibit. The trees will be planted along back of property now without irriga- tion system. The irrigation system will be installed at time of construction of Phase II. She referred to letters in packet from Engineering firm and Mr. Sher described what would be done.- HC -].24 Page 1 HC -124 j MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H-CONTkOL MEETING Page 2 ,440 cific st., LL Weinstein that the reason for only building Coco's was the tight __________________ -= financing market and it hasn't proven feasible to go ahead with stores at this time. He noted they will be undergrounding utilities and landscaping 175 ft. There might be requests for minor modifica- -- tions depending on requirements of eventual tenant but basically = p g q - tan would remain the same. With regard to discussion on unbuilt portion, Member Koenitzer suggested putting a fast growing rye in the area until building is done, Mr. Richard Tanaka, 18 N. San Pedro St., San Jose, said rough grade was being proposed; this meant compaction to 90% so there would not be any growth on it and the liquid asphalt topping would mitigate dust factor. The liquid asphalt topping would look- topping. In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Tanaka said topping was oil and water and would get hard in about a week. ______________ In answer to Member Rogers Mr. Tanaka said when building went in the area would have to bn rot9tilled and loosened before landscaping, but would not be harmed by the liquid asphalt. —_ With reference to a neighbor's concern about pine trees in back, Mr. Slier said he would be meeting with one of them. The trees • would be planted 12 ft. from Clay Street property line. In answer to a concern that there -would be somebody around to see - e_trees- arehAnd-watered regularly, Mr. Sher -said one of Coco's emp gees would o so and staIr cou - con ac e manager - of= Coca -`s--r-egardi-n-g--ma-in-tenance-o-f- -l-ands-taping.----Mr. -Sh-er--pointed -- out they ave stipulated a be done. It was noted that approval for development had been given. After discussion regarding the placement of ground covering under the pine trees, the committee agreed this would not be necessary. _- lodification r Member Koenitzer moved to approve modification to the Terranomics :o Terranomics Corporation site to include 8 conditions mentioned in letter from rk Thomas & Co. Inc. of October 23, 1974, File No. 74033 with approved additional sentences on condition 6 to read: "The pine trees will -be hand watered. Any pine tree that dies will be replaced no later than when second part o eve opments evelade~ — - -- -- Seconded by Member Rogers. MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Weinstein said his idea of Planned Development had just collapsed and gave his reasons for so feeling. Mr. Sher noted this was better than cutting site down middle. The Assistant Planner pointed out any modification would be subject to this committee's review. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0-1 Abstain: Dressler UNFINISHED BUSINESS - None APPROVAL OF MINUTES Minutes of September 16, 1974 Page 3, last paragraph to read "....of entrances to mark them as entrances." Moved by Member Koeni:tzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to approve Minutes of September. 16, 1974 as amended. Motion carried, 3-0-2 Abstain: Dressler and Weinstein Minutes of September 24, 1974 Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to approve Minutes of September 24, 1974 as submitted. Motion carried, 3-0-2 Abstain: Dressler and Weinstein Minutes of October 3, 1974 Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to approve Minutes of October 3, 1974 as submitted. Motion carried, 4-0-1 Abstain: Weinstein HC -124 Page 3 Minutes of 9/16/74 approved as amended Minutes of 9/24/74 app roved Minutes of 10/3/74 approved HC -124 Page 4 MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING On page 16, paragraph 4, last line, the word "access" should read "excess". On page 16, paragraph 6, not in favor of.. On page 17, paragraph 6 at planning level taking intensity and density of because of the trees." the first line should read, "...committee was item (b) should read, "it should be resolved into account the possibility that the the development may have to be modified On page 2, paragraph 5, the second sentence should read, "The building was planned to be two stories but has been changed to one story with high roof line." On page 6, condition (3) should read "Applicant substitute six camphor trees for prunus trees throughout the landscaping plan." On page 9, paragraph 6,•the words "will also be" should be replaced with "is". _m______-__ __- _Minutes of It was moved by Member. Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to 10/10/74 a approve Minutes of October 1.0, 1974, as amended. approved as-- - - --- amended Motion carried, 4-0-1 Abstain: Weinstein POSTPONEMENTS - None WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - Letter -_from -Mr.- -Masao- N-a3im a-- regarding ttre — — ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None Chairwoman Sallan advised there would be no new items initiated after 11:30 p.m. PUBLIC HEARINGS: HC -X51,345.1 -1. - Application HC -51,345.1 of May Investment Company requesting r -_ - - approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading, lighting---- Company and signing for a single-family cluster development located adjacent to and westerly of Finch Avenue approximately 150 ft. northerly of the intersection of Calle de Barcelona and Finch Avenue. Continued from H --Control meeting of October 10, 1974. MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 ii --CONTROL MEETING Staff report: The Assistant Planner located site and described the surrounding area. She pointed out the main items of concern to this committee are the location and intensity of the lights, the removal of existing trees on the property, the ratio of parking, the size of garages and the setback of the fences on Finch Avenue. It was noted that parking areas near Units 24 and 18 were adjusted to save three trees. There is a common open area planned to contain a pool as shown on Exhibit A 1st Revision. The applicant has not determined for sure there would be a pool as the cost would have to be absorbed by owners; this would have to come back to committee to get approval before building pool. Concern had been expressed as to the possibility of high school students walking from Greenwood Drive through the open area to the high school along the fire access. A break -away fence across the fire access area and the parking lot which would have a gate to allow the residents to walk through had been suggested. The Assistant Planner pointed out light poles as located on plans. Also the directory type signing,displaying exhibit. In answer to Member Weinstein, Ms. Kramer pointed out site #16 referred to in Mr. Najima's letter. Slides were shown of the site and the Mulberry and Silk trees which could not be saved. Mr. Martin L. Hall, 1627 Hollenbeck, Sunnyvale, said this was not a typical Makay development. The homes are all complete individual homes with no attachments. With regard to the swimming pool, Mr. Hall said because of the high cost of this item, the project could not be developed as planned if included. He did not believe it was necessary since the high school play area was just across the street. SITE: In answer to Member Koenitzer's question regarding access for the garbage trucks, Mr. Roger Griffen, 10211 Bubb Road, Cupertino, said the trash company vehicles would enter into project. The roads will be paved to City standards. He located and described the trash enclosures. HC -1.24 Page 5 HC -124 Page 6 MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING In answer to Member Rogers, Mr. Griffen said the Fire Department wanted nothing in their way at the loca suggested for break -away wall. He noted the City Council had not been adament about having the wall in that location. The school children are not using that means at this time even though it is an open field. They do not anticipate any problem. going through there if there was no gate. Mr. the differences in pedestrian and motor access. a shame to block off visual aspect for tenants. suggested spaced poles. d enrva..sLc=mato_r-cycles Griffen commented on He felt it would be Member Weinstein Mr. Hall assured the committee they would be protecting home owners and will put whatever is acceptable to home owners and Fire Department. ARCHITECT: Chairwoman Sallan noted the- sethack on Finch Avenge -is only 20ft. and the two story is approximately 24 ft. to peak of roof. She asked about flexibility to change one and two story units. Mr. Griffen pointed out there are no two story units to perimeter of property. GRADING: No comments M. Cceiiail4ogenaen_ landscape architect, was introduced. Me-a�be-r- enitzc rred--to Mr. Najima's letter. Heug ted--changing Li uidambars on Finch Avenue to some broadleaf evergreen since these houses are -closer to street than normal. He commented he could not sort his way through the planting to detail plant code. 14s. Morgensen said she had tried to give broadleaf and deciduous trees in mixture. Chairwoman Sallan asked Ms. Mogensen to go through landscaping approach on Finch Avenue. Ms. Mogensen said she was willing to change pines to Liquidambar as requested by Mr. Najima. Chairwoman Sallar noted the Liquidambar would be bare in the fall. Ms. Mogensen said there was a variety • r that is without leaves for only two months of the year. Member noenitzer said along here he would like an evergreen tree of some kind, Member Weinstein suggested a :Magnolia Grandiflora. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out most -of the fence would -he seen. She _ was uncomfortable with this. Ms. Mogensen said this was a very -- - tractive- fence- and -_cn u1d_-stand _on its own. MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING It was ascertained 15 gallon trees would be planted on Finch Avenue. With regard to substitutes for the Mulberry and Silk trees, Ms. Mogensen said any of the trees on site could be used. LIGHTING: In answer to Member Dressler, Mr. Griffen described the post and wall mounted lamps, referring to exhibits. SIGNING: Mr. Griffen located where directory sign for main aspect of project would be located. The smaller signs giving addresses to each unit would be located at entrances to each mall. He answered Member Rogers that the directory sign would not be installed until after a determination had been made regarding recreation facilities. Chairwoman Sallan reiterated her concern about landscaping in front of fence. Mr. Masao Najima, 10355 Finch Avenue, Cupertino, said he had operated a nursery business here for twenty years. He wanted to discuss pros and cons of trees for Finch. He described character- istics of both Magnolia and Liquidambar trees. The large Magnolia is very messy. The ground is full of Oak root fungus to which Liquidambar tree is immune. The meeting was opened to comments from the public. There were none. Member Dressler asked if there was a way to stipulate tree size other than gallon. Mr. Najima said the 5 gallon size were those 3 to 5 years old and lgallon were 5 to 8 years old. He preferred the 5 gallon to 15 gallon. The younger trees will take off better and will be better shaped generally. There is a difference in ground size of one year and cost for larger size is 3 times as much. Chairwoman Sallan then recapped application discussion. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 5-0 HC -124 Page 7 Public Hear- ing closed HC -124 Page 8 MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H-CONZ`ROL MEETING Memae-r-- Dressier --moved- -to -recommen 1 -approval- of HC -5--1,345 rlto- th _ City Council, subject to standard H -Control conditions and the following special conditions: {1)- That the applicant change the two Pine trees on Finch Avenue to Liquidambar to match remainder of project. (2) To remove Jacaranda tree internal to project �d1et applicant replace with alternate tree of his selection. (3) That the applicant replace the existing Mulberry tree with representative tree compatible to the project. Seconded by Member Rogers. ` e pool -and recreation was diecuesd. Member Koenitzer moved for an amendment that pool and recreation area as shown on plans be deleted and replaced: wTth grass and other plantings. Seconded by Member Dressler. VOTE ON 2•d,NDME1T: AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein and Ch.^_' T i --- -- - � �__�—�__G�i.�. O11RI1 �cZ11.dA- -_ —_ NOES: None " - -- - -Amendment- -carried-, -5& HC -51,-345-- VOTE ON MOTION . approved w/ _conditions- AYES: �sss Keen tr; Regl�naten a. 1_rhoa ,=- ca'I1 an NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 The applicant was informed of approval and his application would be heard by the City Council at its November 4,1974 meeting. At 9:00 p.m. a recess was called, with the meeting reconvening a 9:10 p.m. Member Dressler left during the recess. 2. Golden West Sim Company (Monson's Inc.) requesting change - - -of copy of an existing sign located at 10381 Blaney Avenue. —_ Continued from II-Cart-rci--meeting of -October. 10, 13-74-. MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Staff report: The Assistant Planner noted the applicant had not been present at last meeting so application had been continued. She displayed plan showing proposed signing. The sign cans will be the same size, just replacing Russell's with Monson's. The signs will be white background with red letters. Slides were shown of site and the two signs being changed. Ms. Kramer answered Member Rogers that pole signs are internally lighted as are other signs in center. Member Weinstein commented having white background would make sign appear brighter. The committee agreed that proposed sign would be of higher intensity than what is there now. Member Koenitzer also liked lettering on Russell's better than proposed block letters. Mr. Lyle Smith of Golden West Sign Company said there are existing signs in the center with white background and red letters. They are not proposing to change size, just copy and reversing colors. Member Weinstein said the problem is the brightness. He asked if the red and white could be dimmed by using darker red and off- white background. Chairwoman Sallan suggested they take a continuation on application to redesign sign, taking into account the preference of the committeE Mr. Smith asked if Member Koenitzer wanted script rather than block letters. Member Koenitzer explained it is a big sign and block letters didn't seem to have any character or aesthetic appeal. Mr. Smith said the reason for using block letters was readability. Mr. Smith said they would like to avoid delay of a continuation. He asked for clarification on color control. Chairwoman Sallan said the committee has responsibility for aesthetics and color comes in this area. After discussion with client, Mr. Smith said they would like a vote. The meeting was opened to comments from the public. Mr. Frank Mulkern, 2800 Homestead Road, Cupertino, said this was an example of what the Chamber of Commerce is fed up with - the objec- tion to color and type of lettering. He did not believe this is their responsibility or that they have control of color unless it is outlandish. He personally felt his answer would be to have vote and appeal to City Council. The comments made are entirely subjec- tive. It irritated him and he wanted the minutes to so reflect. Mr. Dennis Monson, 10881 Blaney Avenue, Cupertino, said Ralph's and Safeway are red and white signs; why can't a small independent business have one. HC -124 Page 9 IIC-124 Page 10 MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING • Mr. Monson, Sr. saidthey had spy $1175.00 on signing and can't put their name on their business. ilember Rogers asked if it would be possible to consider application with reduction of intensity through use of different white and red shades. Chairwoman Sallan read No. 3, page 10, item D of sign ordinance which deals with area of jurisdiction. This is the sign proposed to committee and they have to make judgment. Mr. Monson said the customers can't understand why a simple name change can't be made. He could have had 100 customers here. He pointed out the bulbs have been out on sign for two years. -_-: -. Public Hear- ing closed InanswerLo Munson, -chairwoman Salln said- that red and white signs have been criticized and have been on occasion objectionable to public taste. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, to close Public Motion carried, 4-0 Member Rogers said she would like to find solution as time was money to the applicant in this case. —Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval toCity Council with two conditions' F (1) That the colors be changed to a rust and opague white ackground it on. ain.a e,_ an (2) Something other than block letters be used. The Public Hearing was reopened so applicant could respond to comments. Mr. Smith said the applicant would be willing to these conditions f-fe-red to shot, col or chips of what was available. The committee agreed and a compromise was reached, using #2380 rust ---- and #2146 ivory. - --44e e= --- oenitzer witharew--h±a motion. MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Koenitzer then moved to recommend approval of the Monson application with the condition that the color of sign be #2146 ivory background with #2380 rust letters and that the letters be something besides plain block letters. Seconded by Member Rogers. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant was notified his application had been approved. 3. Application HC -51,337.1 of Adobe Inn requesting approval of landscaping for a restaurant facility located on the south side of Stevens Creek Boulevard west of Blaney Avenue adjacent to the Customhouse Restaurant. Staff report: The Assistant Planner gave background of application. The areas of particular concern to the committee were the eastern and western boundary of the property and the area along the Stevens Creek Boulevard frontage. Some planting has been installed on site. She referred to property in back that will be developed at later date. She also pointed out _ parking is at minimal number now. Chairwoman Sallan questioned easterly boundary, noting there was no additional landscaping. Mr. Frank Conley, Adobe Inn, said in order to compensate for cars they wanted to put planters similar to planter around sign. He said they had redone the planter on northwest corner and since then customers have knocked off two top tiers with bumpers. They will have the same problem on other corner. He described changes being proposed. Chairwoman Sallan said the problem is that from the City's viewpoint, they need landscaping on Stevens Creek Boulevard. Mr. Conley said their type of business needs cars in front to attrac other customers, but if he had room to put in landscaping he would. There isn't room in front or eastern side for landscaping. In answer to Chairwoman Sallan regarding tree wells on easterly side, Mr. Conley said the property behind would be improved and parking area added. He explained what they want to do in the future but can't do now financially. He said professional people had told him any landscaping in front or on eastern side would have to be replaced in a week. He pointed out the big lot doesn't belong to HC -124 Page 11 Change of copy app rove HC -51, 337.1 Adobe Inn MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING them; it belongs to Customhouse. The big field on the other side doesn't --- belong to them either.. Member Weinstein said he empathized with business problems, but -Stevens Creek Boulevard demands some type of landscaping. There must be some type of landscaping that would provide greenery but will not screen business. Slides were shown and side discussed. Mr. Conley said they have spent $15,000.00 trying to beautify the City. Member Rogers asked if it would be feasible to suggest that applicant work with staff on two corner areas. Chairwoman Sallan said they should specify what is wanted. rr ,fln rze p runs Psr �� in n an era r a _ ,1emb�r � r said installed, he was not sure another planter should be installed. It was ascertained the applicant would be willing to cooperate in a venture to combine landscaping with Customhouse. The meeting was Public Hear- Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, _ to clol,e Public --------- ---------- t Motion carried, 4-0 HC -51, 337.1 app roved w/ condition — Member Koenitzer moved torecoumiend appro-v- pp -Cation HC -51, 337 of the Adobe Inn, subject Laudard conditions arr the landscaping plan submitted with one to11owiIighdTtTon: (1) That the yellow area in northeast parking area be modified to include a planter that has plantings following general concept of landscaping of site. Seconded by Member Rogers. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Rogers, Feinstein, Chair�roiwan Sallan___________________ NOES: None -Motion carried, 4-0 • The appli t --teas notified his application was approved and would be heard by the City Coancil at its November 4, 1974 meeting. MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING 4. Application HC -51,342.2 of Advance Coiffures (Mrs. Liebmann) requesting approval of a sign plan for a commercial develop- ment located at 19610 Stevens Creek Boulevard. The applicant was not present. Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to move to end of agenda. Motion carried, 4-0 5. Application HC -51,006.1 of Louis Romano requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping and grading for a duplex located on the east side of Stevens Canyon Road between McClellan Road and St. Andrews Road. Staff report: The Assistant Planner noted that most problems in staff report have been discussed and worked out. In regard to archi- texture, a mixture of tile and shake roofs has been proposed. `finis area is on way to reservoir and is very rural. The staff feels shake material would be more in keeping with area. Mr. Louis Romano, 4895 Kingsridge Road, San Jose, answered Member Rogers comment that people in smaller unit of A don't have much yard by pointing out they have front and side area since it is a corner unit. Member Koenitzer noted fence does not go all the way to driveway. He felt this area could be added to the small units' backyard. SITE: Slides were shown of site and general area located. ARCHITECTURE: Member Weinstein commented the right elevations will be most visible and are most bland. He suggested turning the plans around. Ms. Kramer said the driveways had to be oriented to McClellan Road and St. Andrews Road. Mr. Romano explained how elevation would be buffered with landscaping. Member Koenitzer ascertained the applicant would be willing to use all shake roofs. HC -124 Page 13 HC -51,342.2 Advance Coiffures moved to end of agenda HC -51,006.1 Louis Romano HC -124 Page 14 MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING LANDSCAPING: Member Rogers clarified that oleanders on Stevens Canyon Road would be in additisa to plant shown on plan. Mr. Romano said they would be -- putting a pine on corner to make uniform _ Member Koenitzer noted flax next to driveways and sidewalks have - stiff_Leaves aric _r -e -at- satisfact-ory f-oxlocation where there ---- will be cars being opened and people walking by. Also the agapantha in front of the units does not get big enough for this purpose. Should be something that grows 4 or 5 ft. high. There should also be one specimen tree on Plan B lots. The applicant agreed. Chairwoman Sallan expressed her concern that McClellan Road. side should have more planting than one tree and ground covering. - plicant agreed to -p -at- y. 10 Ff GRADING- -S-at is -Satisfactory. The meeting was opened to public comment. There were none. Public Hear- Nether Koenitzer mdcuiideLy Weia, to ing closed Public Hearing. Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC -51,006.1 to the City Co eil ith. the ndard Condit s, Exhibits A, B, B -1, C, and B and the following special conditions: a changed to shake roofer so that all --- _-- (1) That the tile roofs b= - - four units will -rave- Iiak roe. (2) That some other plant besides Phormium tenax be used next to sidewalks and driveways; unsatisfactory because of stiff, sharp leaves. (3) That the agapanthus used next to Plan B be changed to some --------- shrub that grows taller. (4) That additional shrubs be put in areas where ground cover -_ -- alone is shown now; between lots and in some places in front next to the units. --Su d by Member Rogers. MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING AYES: Members Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 The application has been approved and will be before City Council on November 4, 1974. REVIEW OF CHANGE OF COPY OF SIGN FACE: 6. Kenneth C. DuClair (Red Boar) requesting change of copy of an existing sign located at 10095 Saich Way. Staff report: The Assistant Planner located site and displayed proposed sign. Slides were shown of the building and other signs in center. Mr. Kenneth DuClair, 10095 Saich Way, Cupertino, said the Red Boar was a cocktail bar. The background for sign is white with red letters trimmed in black. Member Weinstein ascertained the sign is 2' x 15'. Member Rogers ascertained the sign will be illuminated. Member Koenitzer said part of letters seem to be out of proportion to size of sign. He would like to see smaller letters. The meeting was opened to comments from the public. There were none. Member Rogers moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public Hearing. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Rogers moved to approve change of copy of sign face for Red Boar as. Kenneth DuClair has presented. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. Motion carried, 4-0 4. Application HC -51,342.2 - Advance Coiffures The applicant still was not present. Ms. Kramer noted the sign is in Brentwood Shopping Center. It has been agreed to work out a new sign plan for shopping center including ground sign and are trying to coordinate existing with new plan. HC -124 Page 15 HC -51,006.1 approved w/ conditions Change of Copy Red Boar Public Hear- ings closed Change of Copy approve iC-124 'age 16 MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Koen-itzer said he doesn't have objections co sign as such, _ but the center doesn't seem to get improved, just changed. �- iC-51, 342.2- 1 After further discussion, Member Weinstein moved to -continue :ontinued to Application HC -51,342.2 to next meeting. Seconded by 4llenzber .ext meeting -_ Koenitzer. NEW BUSINESS Chairwoman Sallan reported her trip to California League of Cities was very gratifying and rewarding. She suggested committee be advised of meeting to hear reports of workshops attended. -dirwom SaITi prsnted a f ur€= o-Crascreee obtained in Los Angeles. Staff was to contact company and gem etals- aril additional -brochures. Member Koenitzer asked if Oak Shopping Center was to be taking care of Oaks. He noted the ditching machine goes tease to trees. Staff was to check. _-__Ma-ether _En-nge_r eneated her concern __with wall at Vellco. Ms. Kramer speak to _Engineering-_ ----- --- -- - S g the I Kra.,«r suggested D�_actment regarding this. The 1h istant Planner -reported on differences between "committees" and ''commissions". This was covered in State law. ASAC is not _— cove L Chairwoman oma a l n suggested the G ty Carney ritm an opinion on what differences were beteeu c.ornra_ittee and comni:i.ssion, In answer to Member Komi z r-,- Amer--notes-condominiums woul be built on Rae Lane which was to be a cul-de-sac. It was noted there may be time on next agenda to include landscaping review of Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. ADJ OURNMENT At 11:20 p.m. the meeting was adjourned to the next regular meeting on November 7, 1.974 at 7:00 p.m. - APPROVED: ATTEST: /s/ C. Nar_cySallan Chairwoman Is! Wm. E. Ryder City Clerk