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HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes 05-22-1974CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California 95014 Te�.ephone : 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL CO IIITTEE HELD ON MAY 22, 1974 IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was opened at 7:35 p.m. by Vice -Chairwoman Sallan with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Members present: Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Vice -Chairwoman Sallan Members absent: None Staff present: Associate Planner Robert Cowan ELECTION OF NEW OFFICERS Vice --Chairwoman Sallan was nominated for Chairwoman by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Weinstein. Motion carried, 4-0-1 Abstain: Sallan Member Dressler nominated Member Koenitzer for Vice --Chairman. Seconded by Member Weinstein. Motion carried, 4-0-1 Abstain: Koenitzer APPROVAL OF MINUTES Minutes of April 17, 1974: On page 6, paragraph 3, Member Koenitzer wanted "and Santa Barbara, California" added.. On page 5, last paragraph, the last sentence should read "He then seconded the motion cc continue discussion to next regular meeting' as noted by Vice -Chairwoman Sallan. HC -108 Page 1 Election of Officers ffC-108 Page 2 Minutes of 4/17 / 74 approved as corrected 'iinutes of 5/8/74 approved as amended Sign Ordin- ance MINUTES OF THE MY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Vice -Chairwoman Sallan pointed out on page 7, paragraph 5, line 6, the word "off" should be "of". Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, to approve the minutes of April 17, 1974 as amended. Motion carried, 3-0-2 Abstain: Dressler and Rogers Minutes of May 8, 1974: On page 9, paragraph 1, Vice -Chairwoman Sallan wished the words "to her" added to the first sentence. On page 9, paragraph 2, Vice -Chairwoman Sallan wished the following sentence added. "Vice -Chairwoman Sallan explained she was concerned with the possibility of every business requesting illuminated red background signs to be competitive with others." On page 13, paragraph 5 should read, "Vice -Chairwoman Sallan said her concern was that the whole complex should integrate with exist- ing, landscaping -wise, in particular an improvement_ made to Sears' perimeter. Her other concern was to have more landscaping both on Wolfe Road frontage and in parking lots." On page 13, paragraph 8, the second line should read, "by elimina- ting first row of parking stalls to increase buffer from minimal 25' to at least 40' wherever possible. Member Dressler ....". There being no further corrections, Member Dressler moved, seconded by Member Rogers, to approve the minutes of May 8, 1974 as corrected. Motion carried, 3-0-2 Abstain: Koenitzer and Weinstein POSTPONEMENTS: None WRITTEN C02-UIUNICATIONS: None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. Discussion of Sign Ordinance Chairwoman Sallan asked staff to comment, noting there was new thinking the committee should have a chance to react to. MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 Fl -CONTROL MEETING The Associate Planner referred to the Chamber of Commerce requestt for time to inform their membership and allow them to form a sign! committee. He noted staff had been directed to investigate and determine how many signs were non -conforming. Staff has not had time to do this. He referred to Mr. Sisk's memo of May 3, 1974. They would like to see basic ordinance remain intact and change "entitled" to "allow" which would give the committee discretion on sign size. Another problem was the General Plan and Planned Development situation. The entire ordinance should be reviewed. Mr. Cowan noted the Senior Planning Technician had suggested guidelines, s copies of which were distributed to the committee. Chairwoman Sallan noted interested members of the audience shculd have copies also. The Associate Planner noted changing the word "entitled" would give them more discretion, and they could adopt resolution on how to utilize guidelines. Chairwoman Sallan recapped the sign ordinance discussions for Member Rogers, noting the committee must make a decision that is best for everyone. Member Koenitzer noted that Sections 5.11 (non -conforming signs) and Section 7.021 are the meat of what committee wants to do. As moratorium is lifted, there will be many developments coming for approval. Member Weinstein noted changing the word and adopting guidelines doesn't solve the problem. He is not in favor of a "stop gap" measure. After further discussion, the meeting was opened to public comment. Mr. Frank Mulkern, 20800 Homestead Road, Cupertino, said he concurred with Mr. Cowan's remarks. The City should know whether they are talking about 90% or 40% of signs and what business establishments will be in violation of height, surface areas, etc. He mentioned several areas not covered by the proposed revision - such as abatement period and tax recovery. He said the Chamber of Commerce is working on determining the maximum, minimums and mediums for all signs (shopping centers, free standing, etc.) to determine whether the signs in this City are comparable to others. They need information from staff and time to complete their analysis. Chairwoman Sallan asked if they were planning to poll or survey the community. Mr. Mulkern said the City has the best medium. He noted this will provide what the business community feels. HC -108 Page 3 HC -108 MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Page 4 Member Weinstein said he hoped this data would be a good statis- tical representation of sign ordinances and in towns comparable to Cupertino. He said one thing to look for is the date the ordinance was devised and what difficulties they have encountered in utilizing ordinance. Mr. Mulkern.said they would have figures touching on every one of the proposed revisions in comparable communities. Member Weinstein asked staff if there was a mechanism to get community -at -large to participate. The Associate Planner said the Cupertino Scene would be a good vehicle and would be in next month's publication if it had not been in last month's. Chairwoman Sallan asked if the committee favored forming a review committee as suggested in Mr. Sisk's memo of May 3. They have to make a decision on 5th draft or amending sections and adopting guidelines. This was discussed by the committee members. Member Weinstein said the major problem is size and height; do not need to modify entire ordinance. He suggested getting input from business community, from Mr. Heymann, and from Public Hear- ings for the next two months. At the end of that period take data and make decision. The ordinance must take into account non- conforming signs. Mr. Carl Heymann, Jr., California Sign User Council and California Electric Sign Assoc., asked if there were any questions from the committee. Member Weinstein asked if information had been supplied to staff; Mr. Heymann said the guidelines had been given to the Planning Director. Mr. Heymann said he has been delegated by the State to write sign ordinance. He repeated his offer that if the committee wanted advice, all they had to do was pick up the phone and make an appointment. The Associate Planner noted they had received ordinance from Sacramento and other information that is being assimilated. Chairwoman Sallan summarized there are two ways to go. One is to take 5th draft and continue Public Hearings on it for two months. At the end of that time they will compile input and make determina- tion. The second way is to adopt some immediate changes to ordin- ance and adopt interim policy guidelines. Member Koenitzer said a complete revision of sign ordinance would take 6 or 9 months of work. To get something changed in time frame, he would like to see wording in Section 7.021 changed from "entitled" to "allowed by discretion of committee" and see if this can be approved. He would favor adopting interim guidelines. Chairwoman Sallan concurred. It was ascertained that the City Attorney had approved changing the words in the Ordinance. Member Dressler noted making change would give committee area to practice judgment. Ile suggested taking guidelines home and studying them. MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Member Koenitzer moved to continue Public Hearings on sign ordin- ance to next regular meeting as it was past the time limit that had been set. Seconded by Member Dressler. Motion carried, 5-0 It was decided further discussion should be held on non -conforming signs with regard to time spread IRS allows. Member Koenitzer moved to forward a resolution to Planning Commis- sion that the H -Control Committee recommends revising Section 7.021 of the Sign Ordinance. The first sentence to read: "Each business establishment will unless otherwise specified in Section be allowed, at the discretion of the H -Control Committee, up to a total sign surface area of 3% of floor area said establishment occupies in a building or buildings with no credit for parking space inside or outside of buildings, and with the following exceptions:........." Seconded by Member Dressler. Motion carried, 5-0 Chairwoman Sallan asked the committee members to look at proposed guidelines and be prepared to adopt interim guidelines and review proposal #2 of Mr. Sisk's May 3rd memo at the next meeting. 2. Application HC -51.,002.8 of Joseph and Cecelia Valle request ing approval of site, architecture, landscaping and gradin; for a triplex located on Lot C, La Cresta Subdivision, Alpine Drive. Staff report: The Associate Planner showed an aerial photo of the area, pointing out that the grade falls fast to west and north. He also showed slides of the lot and adjacent property. Mr. Cowan pointed out the application is straightforward and con- sistent with zoning requirements. Each unit has own private patio area. There are no privacy problems. The grading plan submitted is the only realistic workable plan. He pointed out high retaining wall on north boundary line. Member Weinstein noted the two story unit fronts on Alpine Drive. He felt this was a good solution to privacy problem on Vista Knoll He noted he was still waiting for the Planning Commission to do something about the area. Mr. Joseph Valle, 1381 Pauline Drive, Sunnyvale, signed in to answer questions. HC -108 Page 5 Resolution on Sign Ordinance HC -51,002.8 Joseph and Cecelia Valle HC -108 Page 6 Site Architecture Landscaping Grading Public Hearing closed HC -51,002.8 approved w/ conditions MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING There were no comments on site. Member Weinstein complimented applicant on architectural plans. He wished the minutes to record that this application has the two- story portion facing the street and if it were on the other side of the street it would not represent, or at least would minimize, any privacy intrusion to residents on Vista Knoll Blvd. Member Koenitzer noted the sidewalk leading to the service area should start 3 or 4 feet closer to the street which would permit bigger planting areas in corners surrounded by sidewalk. This should be matched on other side. His second comment was that there should be larger planting areas in front of pillars in the middle of the garage area. Chairwoman Sailan said these were areas she had noted on her plans also. She suggested the proposed ivy in front of garage could be a columnar type plant. In planting area #11, the Pittosporum should be changed from dwarf variety of Tobira. The applicant agreed taller things could be planted. It was noted the grading was satisfactory. The meeting was then opened to comments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 5-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of Application HC -51,002.8 to the City Council with the standard conditions, Exhibits A, C and D and with the following specific conditions: (1) That the planting areas to the right and left side of the garage be increased by extending them toward the street by approximately 3 feet. (2) That the planting area in front of garage pillars also be increased by extending toward the street by approximately 3 feet. (3) That the dwarf Tobira be changed to a larger growing variety. (4) That the ivy in front be replaced with a taller shrub. Seconded by Member Weinstein. MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING HC -108 Page 7 AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 Chairwoman Sallan noted the application had been approved and would be heard by the City Council on June 3, 1974. 3. Application HC -51,254.2 of Marianist Province of the HC -51,254.2 Pacific requesting approval of site, architecture, Marianist landscaping, grading and lighting for a religious and Province of the educational facility located adjacent to and westerly ° Pacific of the western terminus of Merriman Road. Staff report: The Associate Planner used an aerial photo to point:; out the 3 acres involved. It is a religious facility used as a residential home. The development will not generate traffic or visitations from the public. The major tree is a monumental oak in center of site which will ! be kept. Member Koenitzer questioned the removal of a pepper tree{ He pointed out several others which he felt could be retained. He'. said the developer should be encouraged to do so. Chairwoman Sallal relative to this concern, asked if staff was considering develop- ing a policy for saving large trees. She would like to see some future dealing with this matter. Slides were shown of the property. The property line is about 10' from curb. The property will be surrounded by a six foot redwood fence on the north, west and part of the east, and a grapestake fence with brick columns is proposed for the Alcalde and Merriman Road entrances. Mr. Cowan distributed pictures of the type of fence to be used. Chairwoman Sallan commended the staff fcr omitting central porti of landscaping since the committee's emphasis would be on the perimeter landscaping. There are 20' lighting standards being proposed for the tennis court. Mr. Jim Davenport, 919 The Alameda, San Jose, said the pool now exists. The property is not currently being used. There will be a cabana around the pool. There will be recreational and shower facilities. Approximately 24 novices and several teachers will be living in the units. HC -1.08 Page 8 Architecture Landscaping Grading Lighting MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Chairwoman Sallan ascertained it would be a single tennis court. Member Koenitzer expressed concern about 25' high buildings, feel- ing this was high for a single story building. Mr. Davenport said the highest portion was the chapel area. The residential structure would be 21'. Mr. Davenport explained they had tried to hold the living units back from the property line. Member Dressler noted the oak tree, which is approximately 40 to 50 feet high, would obscure the buildings. Ms. Mary Gordon, landscape architect, pointed out the trees on the site that would be kept in answer to Member Koenitzer. .Member Rogers asked what was being used arount the tennis court. Ms, Gordon described plants being used, noting they will be on 7 to 10 foot spacings. Chairwoman Sallan ascertained how the site would look from the peri-- meters. Ms. Gordon described the two types of fencing being used. The grapestake fence will be made from wine barrel staves and will a valuable asset. The 6 foot fence is of solid redwood boards that would protect neighbors. Chairwoman Sallan the tennis court. that would enable space. In answer of view regarding essentially that questioned if there was adequate screening of Ms. Gordon said she had purposely used plantings the duplex adjacent to enjoy the feeling of open to Chairwoman Sallan, Ms. Gordon gave her point landscaping; in relationship to noise Which was t can act as a noise buffer to some extent. The grading was determined to be satisfactory. Chairwoman Sallan asked to have the overall lighting plan for the project described. Ms. Gordon said in general it was to provide low level illumination for peripheral area and take advantage of lights on buildings. There are a few path lights with some peripheral lighting for illumination to shrubbery growth. Mr. Davenport said the type of fix low, round bulbs. Brother Robert, they have metal louvers that shoot would be chosen by Ms. Gordon. He under the oak tree shooting up and entry. Lures would be Presco lights - of the Marianist Order, said light to ground. The color said there would be a light one "lantern" type at roadway Chairwoman Sallan asked visual intrusion of lights at tennis court. Brother Robert said they would not be more than 18 to 20 feet high. The fencing would be 10 feet and there were trees. There will be four standards. Member Rogers ascertained the trees are 35' pines. Brother Robert pointed out the lights would not be MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING on continuously, only when courts were in use and that would not be every evening. Chairwoman Sallan said because of the location of these lights this could be a potential problem. Unless there would be a great demand for them, it was unusual to light courts. Mr. Davenport pointed out they could be shielded. Chairwoman Sallan questioned the need for four lights for one court. She suggested continuing this portion of application to the next meeting. Brother Robert said they would be willing to bring in the tennis court lighting at a much later date and Mr. Daven- port said at that time they could prepare a visual diagram. The meeting was opened to the public for comments. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 5-0 Member Dressler moved to recommend approval to the City Council of Application HC -51,254.2 of Marianist Province of the Pacific subject to standard H -Control conditions and submitted Exhibits A, B, B -1, B-2, B-3, C and D with the following specific condi- tions: (1) That the tennis court lighting be withheld from this application and to be reconsidered by the applicant and submitted at a later date for approval. (2) To compliment the applicant for beauty and appearance of facilities proposed in application. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairw Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 Chairwoman Sallan notified the applicant the application had been approved with the exception of the tennis court lighting and woul be heard by the City Council on June 3, 1974. HC -108 Page 9 Public Hearing closed HC -51,254.2 approved w/ conditions At 9:45 p.m. Chairwoman Sallan announced a recess with the meetin€ reconvening at 9:57 p.m. HC -108 Page 10 HC -51,075.361 I.S.S. (Bern O'Connor) MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING 4. Application HC -.51,075.361 of I. S. S. (Bern O'Connor) requesting approval of a sign plan for a light industrial building located at 10435 and 10501 N. Tantau Avenue. Member Dressler abstained from discussion. Staff report: The application is for two 4' x 8' signs on industrial buildings on Tantau Avenue. Signs are currently installed. They are consistent with Ordinance in all respects. The signs are wood frame with painted plywood faces. Slides were shown of the signs and buildings in question. One is facing Tantau Avenue side and one is on the second building closer to the freeway. The Associate Planner referred to point made in staff report that signs could relate better to building designs. He showed a sign exhibit on previous rendering of building #3. Member Weinstein asked if the original sign had been approved and Mr. Cowan said it had not been part of the original application. Mr. William Tagg, Vailco Park representative, in answer to Chair- woman's question as to why the signs were installed without approval by the City and why the deviation from conceptual plan, said he didn't know why the signs were up. He suggested that on the build- ing Valico Park owns the sign be modified. Valico Park owns build- ings #1 and 112. He agreed the sign looked stark. He suggested the hedge be trimmed and sign lowered. Mr. Bern O'Connor of I.S.S. said the sign had been up about 3 or 4 weeks and had been installed to identify buildings for corporate visitors. He indicated their willingness to comply with wishes of the committee. Member Koenitzer said a heavy, dark, broad wood frame around it would tie it in with the building and make it appear to be a more intregal part of the building. He had no objection to the text and color of the sign. He referred to the sign at Clean Scene Car Wash as an example of a wood frame. Chairwoman Sallan suggested continuing both signs to next meeting to allow applicant to incorporate staff suggestions. Member Weinstein said the real problem was location. It should be mounted to the right of the tree, then it could be a low profile monument type sign. Member Rogers noted she did not like flared base on sign as shown on rendering. With regard to building #3, Member Weinstein suggested turning sign to face the street. Optimum solution would be to change sign to what architect had originally planned. Mr. Tagg said the I.S.S. MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING wanted to use blue ^.nd white. Member Weinstein agreed, noting intent is to filer.,. sign with building. Member Koenitzer felt the sign should be rc-od toward the street, and a concrete support copying lines c -)liars on building be used. Member Rogers did not want to eee too elaborate support concrete structure, preferring mere straight lines. Chairwoman Sallan noted these were good guidelines and asked the applicant to return to the next meetii with a rendering. I The hearing was opened for comments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Rogers, to close Public Hearings. Member Koenitzer then moved, seconded by Member Rogers, to continue Application HC -51,075.361 to the next meeting. Motion carried, 4-0-1 Abstain: Dressler 5. Application HC -51,027.14 of James W. Foug and Associates (Security Pacific National Bank) requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading and signing for a bank facility located at the northeast corner of Pacifica Drive and Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. Staff report: The Associate Planner reported the committee had recommended the amount of asphalt in back of bank be decreased. That was incorporated into use permit approved by the City Council. He located the site for those members of the committee who had not been present at last meeting. The basic circulation had been approved. He noted 5' of landscaping was proposed for the easterly boundary. The planning commission had adopted a resolution calling for 76' of parking area which gave 9' for landscaping. The applicant had continued lawn around berm area. The Associate Planner pointed out the landscaping at egress/ ingress at northern section of Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road should be rounded off. There is 10' sidewalk with street trees along this frontage; applicant is proposing 5' sidewalk. The directional sign at Pacifica Drive is fairly large. The application calls for two wall signs on west and east facing elevations. An exception has been filed for a ground sign. Chairwoman Sallan noted modification to sidewalk area at main entrance had not been made as was suggested. HC -108 Page 11 Public Hear ing closed HC -51,027.14 Security Pacific National Bank HC -108 Page 12 Site Architecture Landscaping MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Mr. James Foug, 770 Welch Road, Palo Alto, noted they intended to put in 10' sidewalks. The building setback will be increased to 25'. He felt the trees in the 5' landscaped area would screen and buffer parking lot. He noted there will be landscaping on adjacent property also when it is developed. He displayed plan showing adjustments. Bank has agreed to landscape on corner as recommended. In answer to Member Dressler, Mr. Foug explained sloping landscap- ing berm, noting it followed same angle as building. Chairwoman Sallan asked why sidewalk in front of bank had not been modified. Mr. Foug said the building faces street and they wanted to give feeling of opening to the street. He explained how it related to their motif. He thought it would be exposed aggregate. The 9' landscaping area was discussed. Mr. Cowan read the resolu- tion by City Council. The real intent was to keep the parking area under 85'. Minimum is 65' by Ordinance. 72' would satisfy requirement. Member Dressler questioned why something was not done on front of building, pointing out the large expanse of concrete panel. Mr. Foug said it would be cement plaster with tile roof. The building is small and they thought it better architectural judgment to use one material to create cohesive design. There will be a vertical hone texture to cement. The windows will be solar bronze aluminum with bronze glass. It was ascertained the building is 25' at highest point. Member Koenitzer requested something other than ivy on slope in front of bank building. Mr. Foug said they wanted a tailored uni- form look to berm. Ivy can give this. The landscaping is being handled by an expert architect. Could show an alternate, but this type ivy stays neat, uniform and lush when properly maintained. Member Koenitzer asked the Liquid Ambar tree be changed to an evergreen of some kind. Chairwoman Sallan explained reasons for using evergreen trees based on adopted interim guidelines, and Mr. Foug agreed. The Associate Planner referred to Minute Order of Planning Commission asking the committee to study safety of ingress/egress. Planting should be of low nature. Member Koenitzer noted that with 10' sidewalks they should not have to worry too much about the landscap- ing. Mr. Foug said they had not intended to plant any trees there. Chairwoman Sallan noted one area of concern; the low profile of grass on south elevation. There are no plantings proposed there. She was not sure this was best approach. Mr. Foug explained their reasoning for having no irregular height plantings. MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Chairwoman Sallan questioned use of junipers between trees on 5' landscaping strip. There is another type which grows to 3'. On northern perimeter there is no screening at first parking stall off entry way. Must have something taller than junipers. Mr. Cowan pointed out there would be more landscaping when the adjacent property is developed. Mr. Foug agreed to something taller. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out that entry -wise off of Pacifica, she was concerned about areas into parking lots. There is 1' mound and tree on left. She suggested taking mounding up another foot. Mr. Foug pointed out this is a small site and should be kept simple. He said he would discuss this with their landscape architect. Chairwoman Sallan asked if the Carob trees proposed on major frontage would break up stark wall appearance. Mr. Foug said the trees could be moved forward to do so. Member Rogers said she seconded the comment on ivy. She does not like ivy. There are other plants that can be used and give same effect. Cupertino should not have a sameness in appearance as you drive down the street. The use of ivy should be broken by the use of other plants of the same type. Mr. Foug asked what her objections were to ivy. Member Rogers said it was subject to having stuff accumulate underneath it, insects, snails, etc. Mr. Foug agreed to look into something else but repeated they wanted something to give uniform appearance. Member Rogers also felt the two Carob trees should be moved to the right. There were no comments on the grading. Member Koenitzer asked for lighting description and locations. Mr. Foug said they were low profile lighting. There will be 3 lights and rest will be recessed under overhang of building. The question of vandalism was discussed. Chairwoman Sallan asked how crucial the lights were at the entry way. Mr. Foug said they designated the major driveway entrance; a nice accent at the driveway. Member Rogers ascertained there would be no community use room. She felt the low lights would be attractive nuisances. Member Dressler noted the poles next door were 10 feet; he would not like these to be 10 feet tall. Mr. Tagg pointed out that during the winter lights were needed for employee safety. Member Rogers said Vallco Park has more trees and less street lighting. The Associate Planner showed the lights approved for Taylor Wheeler and Foster developments. HC -108 Page 13 Grading Lighting HC -108 Page 14 Signing MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Security of employees in parking lots was discussed. Member Koenitzer ascertained there would be 7 sofit lights on building. The applicant was asked if he felt the driveway lights were necessary. He said he would like to have them to delineate the driveway. Mr. Sanford Wong of Security Pacific National Bank, said the sofit. lighting would be turned off by a time clock and the low profile lighting would be an asset and help rest of development in the future. The seven sofit lights basically shine down. The 175 watt bulbs will light building but will not help the parking lot. Mr. Wong noted there would be night lights inside the building. Chairwoman Sallan felt the lighting portion of the application should be continued. Mr. Foug said they could give lighting curves on sofit lights. Member Dressler suggested making motion subject to approval of staff rather than continuing. Mr. Raymond H. Clark, Los Angeles, said they liked to harmonize building with local communities. Signing is very important to a commercial business. In 1968 they developed a corporate identity program and have a total concept in signing. The two wall signs are free standing, individual letters of white face with blue edges and are internally illuminated. Letters are approximately 4" deep. The third sign which is the principal sign is 4z' x 5'7" mounted into architectural monument. Bottom will be raised 2' from grade. Sign on front of building is 12" letters to identify front entrance; sign on rear will identify rear entrance. Member Koenitzer suggested continuing until variance on pole sign is considered. Mr. Clark said he was not clear why a variance was required. The Associate Planner explained. Mr. Clark said they wanted to bring in a reasonable request, but they must have identity. Mr. Cowan said the staff would be happy to talk with him the next day. Member Koenitzer suggested eliminating sign F at Pacifica Drive entrance and changing size of other directional signs to 10½" high x 18" wide with maximum height to top of sign being 4'. Member Weinstein said he was not happy with major signs. He did not think three signs are necessary. One ground and one wall, or two wall signs are ample identity. He does not see how blue edge with white letters fits in with building. Since they are internally illuminated a border that matches roof might be better. MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Mr. Clark said from illumination standpoint, they have turned off all signs because of energy crisis. Illumination is a question mark. Blue edging is not illuminated. Charcoal color would be acceptable. He felt blue did enhance and add to the building, but they would go to a more neutral bronze or charcoal. Member Weinstein had Mr. Clark point out location of ground sign. Sign would be covered part of the time by trees and landscaping. j Chairwoman Sallan said she was inclined to continue signing portion of application. The hearing was opened to comments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 5-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC -51,027.14 to the City Council with the standard conditions and the attached exhibits with the following special conditions: (I) That 10' sidewalks be put around project on Pacifica Driv, and Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. (2) That the driveway exiting the drive up windows and possibly the bank building be moved so there is the required 25' between property line and driveway. (3) That the applicant landscape and prepare landscaping plans for approval for the corner of land of Saratoga - Sunnyvale Road adjacent to the property and surrounded by the driveway which exits to the north of the bank portion of the development. That the landscaping on this piece be of a low nature not over 3' high. (4) That the 2 Carob trees on Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road be moved to the south so that they will be in front of the northern portion of the westerly side of the building. (5) That the juniper on the east portion of the property be changed to some shrub that grows approximately 4' high, either juniper or some other type. Approval of plant to be used is to be up to staff. HC -108 Page 15 Public Hearing: closed HC -51,027.14 approved w/ conditions HC -108 Page 16 Old West Steak House MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING (6) That the mounds on the Pacifica Drive entry be increased to a height of 2' with the plantings to be on the mounds. (7) That the Liquid Ambar tree at Pacifica Drive entrance be changed to some broadleaf or fir type evergreen tree. Again to be left up to staff to approve selection of applicant. (8) That the lighting be continued to the next regular meeting so that the applicant can prepare intensity curves showing amount of lighting to be available in parking lot. Con- cern of the committee here is for possible safety of employees in evening. (9) Two major signs on the building be continued and heard with the hearing on the variance for the proposed ground sign. (10) That the directional signs such as "do not enter", "stop" and "motor banking" be decreased in size to 18" wide x 10%" high and that the top of the signs be no more than 4' above pavement at the location they are placed. The proposed sign at Pacifica entrance with Security Pacific National Bank logo and words "motor banking" be deleted. (11) That the ivy in sloping section around front of building be changed to some other ground cover that will produce desired effect. Seconded by Member Weinstein. Mr. Foug said it would help if they had suggestions about the kind of lighting the committee would like to see. Mr. Cowan said the traffic engineer could come up with standards in terms of foot candles. Member Weinstein pointed out his major concern was that he did not want to see the light source. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 REVIEW OF CHANGE OF COPY OF SIGN FACE: 6. Cal Coast Sign Company (Old West Steak House) requesting change of copy of an existing sign located at 10041 N. Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. Continued from H -Control meeting of May 8, 1974. MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING Since the applicant was not in the audience, Member Dressler moved, seconded by Member Rogers, to continue to the next meeting; Motion carried, 5-0 7. Microma, Inc. (A. Craig Warp) requesting change of copy for a ground sign for an industrial building located at 10240 Bubb Road in the West Valley Industrial Park. Staff report: The Associate Planner passed plans among the committee members, showing proposed change of copy. Mr. A. Craig Warp for Microma, Inc. answered Chairwoman Sallan that the sign would be stained rough redwood with white gouged letters. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, to approve change of copy. Motion carried, 5-0 UNFINISHED BUSINESS Chairwoman Sallan proposed a plaque for former H -Control Chair- man McLaren. It was so moved by Member Rogers, seconded by Member Dressler. Motion carried, 5-0 Time limit for H -Control meetings was discussed. Chairwoman Sallan asked the committee to determine optimum time for cut- off and how to handle applications that might be at the cut-off time. Member Koenitzer wondered if meetings being cut-off would entail additional meetings so they would not get behind. Member Weinstein said he would prefer to deal with the Planned Develop- ment Use Permit Applications at 7:00 p.m. He suggested a rule that nothing new starts after 11:30 p.m. He was not in favor of scheduling extra meetings. He was not in favor of Sign Ordinance hearings as part of regular meetings. What was not heard by 11:30 p.m. would be continued to next regular meeting and be heard first. It was decided the Use Permit applications could be heard in library conference room. Member Rogers moved for a resolution that at 7:00 p.m. the commit' tee would look at Planned Development Use Permit applications in the library conference room. At 7:30 p.m. the regular meeting would begin. No new business would be started after 11:30 p.m. HC -108 Page 17 Microma, Inc. Plaque for Ms. McLaren Limited meetings Resolution HC -108 Page 18 Lighting Intensity standard condition P.A. Review Board brochures PD Ordinance 815 Policy State- ment re signs 10-U-74 The Westfield Company MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING and anything not discussed in that time line would be continued to the next regularly scheduled meeting and would appear at the beginning of the agenda. Seconded by Member Dressler. Motion carried, 5-0 It was noted that an additional standard H -Control condition should be established. That being there would be a review of lighting intensity after installation. Mr. Cowan pointed out that standard conditions are ratified by City Council. Chairwoman Sallan distributed a brochure received from Palo Alto. architectural review board. Chairwoman Sallan noted each member should have copies of PD Ordinance 618 when it was effective. Chairwoman Sallan asked for policy statement for developers that signing is to be submitted with architecture. NEW BUSINESS: None INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS: 8. 10-U-74 The Westfield Company: Construction of a 19,400 sq. ft. industrial building located at the northwest corner of Tantau and Pruneridge Avenues. ... Concern was expressed for traffic generation on Tantau and Pruneridge and hazards of ingress and egress. ... Landscaping should be increased wherever possible. 9. 11-U-74 Adolph Firenzi: Applicant not present so would be heard later in meeting. Keith Garner 10. Keith Garner: Construction of a mini -storage facility located in the southwest quadrant of Route 280 freeway and Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING 12. Sobrato-Berg: Construction of industrial buildings totaling approximately 118,000 sq. ft. located in the southwest quadrant of Route 280 Freeway and Saratoga -Sunny- vale Road. Since these two applications were adjacent, it was decided to consider them jointly. Chairwoman Sallan reminded the committee to be as objective as possible in their comments so land use decision would not be influenced. ... Storage units a, b and c on northerly boundary of site are located too close to property line to have sufficient landscaping for significant screening. One suggestion was to plant on State - right -of -way to screen units. ... Number of curb cuts. 11. May Investment Company: Applicant not present so would be heard later in the meeting. 13. David E. Harper and Associates: Construction of a 29,000 sq. ft. bowling alley at the southeast corner of Homestead and Stelling Roads. ... Concern was expressed for heavy amount of parking stalls. ... 10' of landscaping is not enough. ... Buildings might be placed to better advantage to break up large expanse of parking lot. The basic concern on the application was the site layout. ... Increase landscaping along Stelling and Homestead Roads frontage; also on perimeters if site layout remains the same. At 1:00 a.m. Members Dressler and Weinstein left the meeting. 9. 11-U-74 Adolph Firenzi: Construction of a 25,275 sq. ft. furniture store located southerly of and adjacent to Stevens Creek Boulevard immediately east of the Fisherman's Village Restaurant site. ... No negative comments on site layout. ... Adequate provision for landscaping. ... Architecture needs re-evaluation, more imagination. HC -108 Page 19 Sobrato-Berg May Invest- ment Company David E. Harper and Associates 11-11-74 Adolph Firenzi iiC-108 Page 20 May Investment Company ADJOURNMENT MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING 11. May Investment Company: Construction of a 27 unit single-family cluster project adjacent to Finch Avenue. ... Possibility of extending Greenwood Drive to Finch Avenue was discussed.- ... Wider landscaping needed on westerly boundary. ... Questioned need of asphalt "circle". ... Privacy and protection of residents with regard to high school crowd should be considered. ... Number of units excessive. ... Fencing on Finch Avenue side could be extended. At 1:37 a.m. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Rogers, to adjourn to 7:00 p.m. on June 5, 1974 in the library conference room. ATTEST: In! Win. E. Ryder City Clerk Motion carried, 5-0 APPROVED: /s/ C. Nancy Sallan Vice Chairman