HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAC Minutes 04-03-1974CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino
Telephone: 252-4505
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND
SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE OF APRIL 3, 1974 IN THE
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL,
CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
The meeting was called to order at 7:37 p.m. by Vice -Chairman
Sallan with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Dressler (8:30), Koenitzer, Weinstein,
Vice -Chairman Sallan
Members absent: Chairman McLaren
Staff present: Associate Planner Robert Cowan
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of March 20. 1974
Member Koenitzer pointed out that on page 8, paragraph 5, the
first word of line 3 should be "Nitron".
On page 8, paragraph 1, the following sentence should be added.
"Member Weinstein's equation was adopted."
Member Sallan noted that on page 8, paragraph 7, the words
"on Planned Development ordinance" should be inserted after
memo.
Also on page 8, paragraph 2, the last line should read "...of
aesthetics in regard to signing, taking into account the role
of advertising, if any."
There being no further corrections, Member Koenitzer moved,
seconded by Member Weinstein, that the Minutes of March 20,
1974 be accepted as amended.
Motion carried, 3-0
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Minutes of
3/20/74
approved as
amended
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H C-51,259.81
Continued to
next meeting
HC -51,002.7
Ray W. Spauld-
ing
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
POSTPONEMENTS:
The Associate Planner reported that a postponement had been
requested on item 1 (Edwin J. Myers). It was so moved by Member
Koenitzer, seconded by Member Weinstein, that a two week continu-
ance be allowed.
Motion carried, 3-0
WRITTEN COMPNNICATIONS: None
ORAL C0MMUNICATIONS : None
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. Application HC -51,259.81 of Edwin J. Myers requesting
approval of site, and architecture for a proposed bank
facility located in the Portal Plaza Shopping Center at
the northeast corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard and Portal
Avenue. Continued from H -Control meeting of March 20,
1974.
Continued to the H -Control meeting of April 17, 1974 as per the
request of the applicant.
2. Application HC -51,002.7 of Ray W. Spaulding requesting
approval of site, architecture, landscaping and grading
for a triplex located on Lot N in the La Cresta Subdivi-
sion, 10146 Alpine Drive.
Staff report: The Associate Planner said the property is located
on Alpine Drive in southernmost portion of La Cresta Subdivision.
The privacy question here is the reverse of the lots on Alpine
Drive to the north as this lot is lower than the adjoining resi-
dential parcel to the east.
The site plan meets the technical requirements of the ordinance.
Setbacks are within requirements also. The height conforms to
City ordinance.
The Associate Planner pointed out that traditionally the committee
is involved with front landscaping, not sides. In this case they
would be considering the rear landscaping. It had been stressed
the City would like to see some screening material on the back
line.
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
Mr. Cowan said there would be no drastic cuts in grading. There
would be a slight grading on southerly setback area to make the
terrace and staircases work.
Member Koenitzer ascertained that contrary to staff report the
garage floor would be 2' higher than the street level.
The Associate Planner pointed out a proposed revision in plan.
The applicant was proposing to install a patio deck that would
overlook the single-family lot to the rear. This apartment
is 12' to 16' lower than the single-family residence lot.
Member Weinstein wondered if this would be a deck or used for
ingress -egress. Mr. Cowan said the applicant would answer this.
Member Koenitzer noted that it seemed by closing one door, this
could be a fourplex.. instead of a triplex. A discussion of this
possibility then ensued. Vice -Chairman Sallan asked staff to
check this out and make a report to the appropriate body.
Member Weinstein said he would be hesitant to approve something
that might be illegal. There should be some definition. The
committee discussed continuing application. Member Weinstein
noted there were other aspects where they could give guidelines
to the applicant.
Mr. Ray Spaulding, 1060 Lassen Drive, Menlo Park, signed in.
The Associate Planner informed him there seemed to be enough
room for four units but this would change parking requirements.
Mr. Spaulding said this was to be a three unit building. He
explained this would be his kitchen with bar facilities. Member
Weinstein asked staff for comment noting that if applicant later
decided to sell, new owner might consider this four units. Mr.
Cowan said this could be handled on staff level. A permit could
not be issued with fourth kitchen. The committee could act on
the application with the stipulation that it is clearly a three
unit development. Mr. Spaulding asked if stove could be
removed and changed to wet bar with cupboards for glasses.
He was informed that staff would inform him as to requirements.
Mr. W. R. Lent, architect for Mr. Spaulding, proposed to eliminat(
the outside door, but was told that anything that contains a
kitchen constitutes a unit. Mr. Lent said a dual kitchen is not
a new or different idea. Member Weinstein pointed out this was
beyond the scope of this committee, but they would like to dis-
cuss other aspects of the application. Member Cowan answered
their concern about a delay by saying there would be none.
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SITE
ARCHITECTURE
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Member Weinstein said he would like the minutes to show that this
is not necessarily an approval of all similar type architecture
for all of Alpine Drive, mentioning the possibility of reversing
plan so that two story would be in front. He also noted that
when a 6' fence is erected only the first 6' of the apartment
is blocked. Mr. Spaulding said they were planting junipers
that will grow to 15' in height; the fence is just a space
barrier, not a sight barrier. When Member Weinstein suggested a
10' fence, Mr. Spaulding inquired if a fence over 6' would not be
illegal. Member Weinstein said this was his point.
Member Weinstein said he could not believe a person would want to
sit on a deck and have single family residence looking onto it
and into the bedroom windows. The deck doesn't make much make
sense. Anything above. 6' high will look directly to the deck.
Mr. Spaulding said he couldn't conceive anyone standing and look-
ing over a 6' fence.
Mr. Lent said regarding the deck, the deck was to provide access
to rear of apartment. Member Koenitzer ascertained the deck is
5' x 9'. Member Weinstein said if it was to be just for ingress
and egress that would be fine; perhaps the size should be cut
down so that there would be no mistake as to intent.
Vice -Chairman Sallan pointed out to the applicant the problem of
privacy but noted if he elected to have deck it is his decision.
Member Weinstein said there is consideration for the single family
home that will be there. A discussion regarding the privacy
problem then followed. Mr. Spaulding said he would have no
objection to cutting size of deck.
Member Koenitzer commented on roof line from front view. The two
false gable edges did not seem to fit in. Mr. Spaulding said
A they had been put there for aesthetic reasons. Member Koenitzer
said they appeared stuck on, not integrated to rest of building.
Mr. Lent explained his reasons for putting the gables on, noting
the top one could be removed.
LANDSCAPING a Vice -Chairman Sallan pointed out the committee should address the
question of what can he done to assure privacy in both directions.
Member Weinstein ascertained the plans call for 11 Hollywood
junipers at 8' centers. He noted the junipers grow to 15' but
top is columnar shape. He proposed using junipers on 11' centers
and adding 6 trees of another type between the junipers. Mr.
Spaulding suggested Monterey Pines. Member Koenitzer said these
were cylindrical shape also. He would like to see something put
in the area of concern which is about 10' to 20' high and doesn't
spread out so much at ground level.
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
Vice -Chairman Sallan suggested giving specifics of what is
wanted and have landscape experts on staff make recommendations.
Member Weinstein said lie wanted a solid screen of 15' height.
Member Koenitzer said since there is no development to the rear
on the single family lot, unless the applicant wanted to put in
large trees, the 5 -gallon size should be sufficient. Mr.
Spaulding said he had talked to owner of lot in rear and
there were no plans for building in the near future. Member
Weinstein said he would prefer the 15 -gallon size. Mr. Spaulding
suggested putting in Monterey Pines on 6' centers starting
growth to be 6' level. In further discussion of screening,
Mr. Lent cited several ways of screening bedroom windows but
said he would rather stay with proposed tree planting.
Vice -Chairman Sallan advised the applicant the committee had
addressed itself to uses of screening and were not amenable to
Hollywood junipers. Mr. Spaulding asked for approval with
conditions as he could not stand a delay.
Vice -Chairman Sallan questioned the landscaping in front. Mr.
Spaulding said each dot represented one plant. He said 1 -gallon
size were proposed as the root structure is younger and there is
less danger of it being rootbound. The tree roses should not be
planted too closely. He said there would be 6 rose plants.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said she did not think the tree roses and
star jasmine would compensate for all the concrete area. Mr.
Spaulding suggested a lemon tree, on the other side from the
Japanese silk tree. Member Koenitzer said the Japanese silk
tree is deciduous. Because of so much concrete and garage work
in front, there should be as much green as possible. Mr.
Spaulding suggested substituting with another citrus tree.
Vice -Chairman Sallan announced this was a Public Hearing and
opened the meeting to comments from the audience. There were
none.
Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, to close
Public Hearings.
Motion carried, 4-0
Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of Application
HC -51,002.7 to the City Council with the standard conditions,
Exhibits A, B and C and with the following additional conditions
(1) That the problem of the fourth kitchen be settled to the
satisfaction of staff and applicant by discussions with
the staff concerning City requirements.
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Public Hearir.
closed
HC -51.,002.7
approved w/
conditions
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HC -51,267 .4
Pettibone
Signs
(Taylor
Properties)
I
[INUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
(2) That the proposed stairs and decks on rear of building
as entrance to unit there be only large enough to serve
as entrance way and not as a deck for chairs and other
fixtures.
(3) That the applicant and staff select a rapidly growing
tree to plant along rear property line that will provide
dense screening from 6' to 15' in height.
(4) That the Japanese silk tree in front on western end be
changed to some evergreen tree and that an additional
evergreen tree be added on south front of planting area.
ri Seconded by Vice -Chairman Sallan.
�+
AYES: Members Koenitzer, Weinstein and Vice -Chairman Sallan
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Member Dressler
Motion carried, 3-0-1
Vice -Chairman Sallan noted the application had been approved with
conditions and would go before the City Council on April 15, 1974.
3. Application C-51,2_67.4 of Pettibone Signs (Taylor
Properties) requesting approval of a sign plan for an
existing real estate office located in the Allario
Shopping Center at 10261 Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road.
Staff report: The Associate Planner passed a drawing around to
committee showing the proposed. sign. The size of the sign does
conform to ordinance. The staff had indicated they would like
this sign to act as prototype of size and color for center and
owner had indicated his approval. The two major tenants might
be allowed to deviate from size of 2' x 10'.
Slides were shown of Allario Center, depicting the large pole
sign and small signs on fronts of shops in the center.
Vice -Chairman Sallan ascertained the signs are 6' to 8' from
building on front of fascia.
{ember Koenitzer noted this sign is on "legs" rather than being
flush at bottom as present signs are.
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
Member Weinstein asked Mr. Cowan if there was any possibility of
placing signs on extension itself. The Associate Planner said
these tenants have been there a long time and it will probably
be a long time before they will be changed. He pointed out signs
would be wider than the fascia.
Member Weinstein then asked about possibility of hanging signs
below overhang. Mr. Cowan said this was a matter of the commit-
tee's discretion. The applicant had been approached regarding
this.
Mr. Frank Sterbe, Pettibone Sign Company, was asked by Member
Weinstein to describe where sign would placed and also where the
logo would be placed on the sign. Mr. Sterbe said the logo would
be at left side edge. The sign would be on front edge of fascia
as existing signs.
Mr. Sterbe said Allario Center owner wants to get into a more
uniform sign program, and ultimately will if he has to buy the
signs and lease them.
Member Koenitzer said if the sign were to be on the parapet, he
would prefer having bottom edge of sign sitting on edge of fascia
as the rest of the signs are. Mr. Sterbe said $5,000.00 had just
b n spent for reroofing and a lot of expense was caused by
having to lift signs for the reroofing. He pointed out there
would be no structures going from sign to building.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said the point was if this is setting a
precedent, the committee needs to decide if they want sign to be
flush against back parapet or continue as it is now. They need
to decide chat is most aesthetic approach for long range planning,
She clarified applicant's statement regarding 'Mir. Allario purchas-
ing signs and leasing them back to tenants.
In answer to Member Koenitzer, Mr. Sterbe said the overhang was
about 6' wide. Member Koenitzer felt any moving of sign back
would require higher elevation causing it to stick above roof
line of building. He would like to see them on fascia but since
that isn't possible, he would not object to proposed sign.
Member Weinstein said the optimum solution would be to hang signs
under overhang. With regard to staff's comment that some signs
might be larger, he didn't feel this would be necessary. Hanging
from overhang would eliminate difficulty of reroofing. They
needed to know height of overhang from sidewalk.
Mr. Sterbe said he thought it would look terrible to have just
one sign hanging down and the rest on the parapet.
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Public Hear-
ing closed
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
Member Weinstein pointed out some signs in the center might be
non -conforming under new ordinance. He would be willing to go
with soothing that looks bad temporarily. He would be in favor
of asking Mr. Sterbe to come back with hanging sign and talking
with Mr. Allario about future sign program. Mr. Sterbe agreed
Mr. Allario should discuss this with the committee as this was
out of his province.
Member Dressler asked about establishing a sign for this center.
Mr. Cowan said that is essentially what the committee is doing
tonight. He suggested approving sign in hanging configuration
with temporary allowance for having it on top until another sign
change came in so there would be two hanging.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said it would seem to be appropriate to con-
tinue application until next time when a rendering could be brought
back of what it would look like hanging down and distance from
bottom of sign as it would be hanging from overhang.
Mr.Sterbe asked if a moratorium was planned for signs in the center.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said there was no moratorium planned, but that
they were in the process of revising Sign Ordinance. She noted
the committee needed more data on dimensions being dealt with,
and felt the owner should be advised of the committee's thinking.
Mr. Sterbe asked if some kind of sign on a temporary basis could
be approved. Vice -Chairman Sallan said they could apply for a
temporary sign. Mr. Cowan said this could be done on staff level
if committee so directed.
Member Weinstein ascertained the overhang was 12' from sidewalk.
He said he would approve if new sign was 2' in height with same
color can and background and hanging from overhang.
A discussion was held on whether or not colors in signs should be
the same or of a variety.
Vice --Chairman Sallan noted this was a Public Hearing and invited
comments from the audience. There were none.
Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close
Public Hearing.
Motion carried, 4-0
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
Member Weinstein moved to approve Application HC -51,267.4 of
Pettibone Signs subject to standard conditions, Exhibit F and
the following modifications and additions:
(1) That the sign as proposed be hung from the fascia.
(2) That the sign be 2' x 10' and since the sign is being
hung there will be no legs or other supporting members
on the bottom.
(3) That this sign shall represent the prototype or model
for future signing in that center and that future signs
shall conform in terms of background color, color of
letters, color of can and perhaps some similarity in
letters with perhaps an additional variation in small
logo or symbol.
(4) This being a model, all other signs shall be precisely
2' in vertical width and hung precisely same distance
below fascia and perhaps larger tenants may be allowed
a slightly larger length, but certainly in conformance
with current sign ordinance.
(5) These signs should be recessed in from very edge at
least 2' or more. Recess should be kept constant as
well.
Seconded by Member Koenitzer.
Vice -Chairman Sallan ascertained that at time of hanging the
sign would go below as opposed to saying it could be placed on
top for a certain period of time. Her other ccncern was that
they needed to quantiry to a certain extent the allowance of a
"slightly" larger sign for major tenants. Mr. Cowan pointed out
that when a sign .program was approved for a center, new signs
were not brought back to committee. He asked if the committee
meant to hear applications on larger signs for major tenants.
Member Weinstein clarified that signs would not differ from 2'
in actual height and should be hung same distance below for
uniform line. The height would be consistent throughout the
center.
The meeting was reopened. Mr. Sterbe said the committee should
consider the weight of the signs and also trucks pulling in to
load and unload. Member Dressler pointed out the weight of the
signs would be the same whether they were on top or hung below.
Member Weinstein noted condition 5 covered trucks loading and
unloading.
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HC -51,267.4
approved w/
conditions
The Hearing
reopened
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Hearing
closed
again
Recess
HC -51,148.1
Lucky Stores`,
(Gemco)
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL METING
Mr. Sterbe questioned his having to tell the owner where the
signs should be hung. Vice -Chairman Sallan pointed out his right
of appeal to the City Council. The meeting was then closed again.
AYES: Members Dressier, Koenitzer, Weinstein, Vice -Chairman Sallan
NOES: None
Motion carried, 4-0
Vice -Chairman Sallan informed Mr. Sterbe the application had been
approved with conditions as stated and would be before City Council
on April 15, 1974.
Mr. Sterbe asked for a continuance to have Mr. Allario present.
Member Dressler asked staff if applicant could withdraw his
request at City Council level. Mr. Cowan said he could but he
would then have to reapply.
At 9:50 p.m. a recess was declared with the meeting reconvening
at 10:02 p.m.
4. Application HC -51,148.1 of Lucky Stores, Inc. (Gemco)
requesting ap!�roval of modification of site, architecture,
and landscaping for an existing commercial building located
at 20745 Stevens Creek Boulevard.
Staff report: At last Planning Commission meeting a use permit
was issued to allow an addition of an outdoor garden center. This
outdoor activity will extend from east side of building. Mr. Cowan
referred to Planning Commission Resolution No. 1248 covering this
application.
The Associate Planner pointed out that the original plan submitted
did not indicate any landscaping or architectural modifications so
this proposal includes a great many additions.
The transformer in the northeast corner of the site adjacent to
the building will be removed and placed underground.
A 16' landscaping strip on Stevens Creek Boulevard had been
stipulated to provide adequate screening of cars and future
bike path. Mr. Cowan pointed out modification.
One major point of site was the parking stall and aisle width
fronting on Stevens Creek Boulevard would be 8' narrower than
the required parking standard. The aisles would have to be moved
back unless one way aisles were used. The 45 degree parking stall
would have to be reversed, on Bandley Street side.
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
Member Weinstein asked if applicant could remove parking spaces
on Stevens Creek Boulevard. There are 598 parking spaces on
plan. They must have 587 to be within limits. The Associate
Planner pointed out there is a possibility of spaces along Saich
Way by the service station.
With regard to architecture, there are significant changes on
rear elevation. To screen air conditioning equipment, the
applicant is proposing a new 8' screen. There will be some
stacks sticking out over the screen.
The Associate Planner referred to Exhibit B which illustrated
the proposed improvements to the building.
Slides were then shown of present building and adjacent areas.
Vice -Chairman Sallan ascertained none of the large trees would
be removed.
The future expansion of landscaping on Bandley Drive boundary
was discussed. Plantings are to be on inside of wall along
Alves Drive side.
Vice -Chairman Sallan asked if there was wide enough space to
add landscaping on easterly side. It was noted there is surplus
aisle space.
There was no sign application tonight. There would be a separate
application to cover signing.
Vice -Chairman Sallan noted there probably hasn't been an applica-
tion that would be of more significance in terms of aesthetics to
the City and she asked the applicant to accept the committee's
remarks in this spirit.
Member Koenitzer said if it were possible to get 5' of landscap-
ing along Saich Way he would like to see this included. There
are no pumps in first bay in front of service station and there
is approximately 12' wide concrete apron sticking out towards
the street. He would recommend remaining 10' be converted to
landscaping rather than 5'. The corner could be rounded to
provide proper traffic circulation.
Member Dressler said he would recommend something other than
empty barrels be used to direct traffic.
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Site
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Member. Weinstein said the thing to be decided was preference of
one way traffic circulation_ without moving existing planters or
two way traffic situation with necessity of moving plants to get
required space. Vice -Chairman Sallan asked if the Public Works
Department had a preference of treatment and the Associate Planner
said the one way system had been recommended. Member Koenitzer
noted that the problem with a one way system was that everybody
was so used to driving other way, they would do it anyway.
Implementation of one way system was discussed.
Mr. William Glass, architect, said they would prefer to keep a
two way circulation pattern. They didn't want to move planters
back because in addition to the cost, there was a vault in the
second planter from the end which contained the sprinkler system.
This would be costly to move. He suggested putting in with 16'
and if it is a problem, the store would then restripe stalls.
Member Weinstein said most store parking areas were of one way
circulation. Mr. Glass disagreed.
Mr. Jim.Justus, Lucky Stores, said the primary reason for one way
aisles was to pick up spaces, but they would not gain a single
space. Member Weinstein pointed out the concern of the City was
not spaces but circulation.
Member Dressler suggested parallel parking. This was discussed.
The Associate Planner said the City could live with this configura-
tion although it was not ideal. He suggested allowing it a 6
month trial with the City to review its acceptability.
Member Weinstein asked about a 5' landscaping strip on Saich Way.
Mr. Glass said it was not their intent to do this. He referred
to staff report on landscaping and said they would be reluctant
to go further. He spoke of their budget restraints and said he
would like to put the landscaping where it would be seen most.
Vice -Chairman Sallan pointed out this is a major frontage and
would be seen from Stevens Creek Boulevard. This 5' is extremely
important for visual effect of greenery. Mr. Glass explained the
intent and reasoning of their landscaping proposal.
Member Koenitzer said the 5' planter strip should have plants of
4' to 6' in height. Mr. Glass suggested some type of trade-off.
This was discussed.
Member Dressler suggested putting strip and plants along west
elevation. The applicant said they did not wish to do this.
MINTJTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
Member Koenitzer left the meeting and was not present for the
following discussion.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said that in perspective of entire project,
this was a small addition being asked for in terms of overall
sit,. Mr. Glass said they were over their budget now and Gemco
might drop the whole thing. The present proposal is their
maximum shot.
Member Weinstein asked to have the vinyl coated chain link fence,
described in relationship to what he would see through it. Mr.
Class described the fence; it will be coated with green vinyl.
There will be 5' of landscaping in front of fence. Mr. Justus
said 2/3 of merchandise would be plant material. The rear 1/3
would probably be swim sets, some barbeque chips, fertilizer
sacks, etc. No lumber or building supplies.
In answer to Member Dressler, Mr. Glass described the front of
building and columns, There will be concrete block additions
on front of building, with transitions around the corner so there
will not be a break in material. The columns will be precast or
concrete block. It hasn't been decided whether to take out
existing ones or to reuse them. Mr. Glass said what appears to
be glass on front of building will be an opaque material as
there will be services such as pharmacy, etc. directly behind
this wall.
With reference to the high simulated arch, Mr. Glass said this
was to direct attention to the entrance. The treatment of the
front of the building is the new store prototype.
The mansard roof tiles will extend 16' around each side.
Vice -Chairman Sallan ascertained the fence would not look like an
institutional fence. There will be shrubs planted in front of
fence also.
In answer to Member Dressler, Mr. Glass said the columns were
aluminum tubing. Member Dressler noted the arch did not appeal
to him particularly and said he preferred straight line across
front of building without the columns. Mr. Glass said the
columns were needed. Mr. Justus said they would wrap the
tubular columns with concrete blocks to prevent their being
chipped by shopping carts and rusting.
Member Dressler then questioned starkness of west elevation of
building. Mr. Glass described proposed treatment. All openings
will be filled in and will match rest of structure.
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Architecture
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Landscaping
EINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
Er. Glass referred to roof top screen to hide air conditioning
equipment. He said the proposed treatment was his first thoughts
and he was not pleased with it. He said -it would look worse than what
was there now. He explained another treatment which would
utilize what was there already. Mr. Justus pointed out that with
the addition on east side the equipment would be 30' farther back
from line of sight. Vice -Chairman Sallan remarked if they could
save money on this approach, they could put greenery around
property. Mr. Glass felt this could be worked out with staff.
Vice -Chairman Sallan asked about up -grading of service station.
Mr. Justus said there was none planned but they would paint and
upgrade to that extent. Member Dressler ascertained the service
station was leased.
Er. Jim Coleman, landscape
Sallan what cost was being
on Sal ch Way. Mr. Cole man
of asphalt, building curbs
tion lines. Vice -Chairman
figures be available fox ti
architect, was asked by Vice -Chairman
talked about on the 5' landscape area
said a major cost would be the removing
and bringing in top soil. Also irriga-
Sallan asked that estimate with specific
-ie City Council hearing.
Er. Coleman said along gas station to main drive there is a plant-
ing strip. Looking at area from Ste1!ens Creek you will not be able
to see much of it. This was discussed, and slides were studied of
the area.
Herber Weinstein said the whole westerly elevation suffers from
lack of landscaping treatment. There should be landscaping either
adjacent to the building or 5' strip adjacent to sidewalk.
Mr. Justus again referred to large amount already being spent over
their budget. Member Weinstein said the roof treatment could cut
off cost and add to landscaping area on westerly side. The entire
project is being substantially upgraded and it would really be a
significant improvement on westerly side. He pointed out there
are 3 planter areas on that side that could be eliminated by use
of strip.
Mr. Justus said there appeared to be two major points: landscaping
along westerly side and cleaning up of service station. Also the
screening on roof.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said the service station planter is proposed
for 5' but has a flexibility for another 5'. Member Dressler suggested
16' as .rest of frontage. The Associate Planner said there was 24'
to pump island.
Member Koenitzer joined the discussion at this point of the meeting.
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
Mr. Coleman said they would be adding to existing planting.
Slides were shown again of the area and Mr. Coleman described
what was now planted and what he intended adding.
Mr. Coleman was asked to speak to theme of frontage. He said
there were evergreen trees throughout with a few deciduous trees.
He described plants to be used. There is ample distance between
trees for bike path. There would be no mounding because of futur
bike path.
Member Koenitzer said there were several street trees missing.
Mr. Coleman pointed out where several were missing. The committeE
should be aware there should be street trees on Bandley Drive
also.
Member Koenitzer said the plants in the 5' planter on Bandley
Drive were low and slow growing ones and the committee were
looking for something higher and faster growing. Mr. Coleman
suggested alternating with another plant. After discussion,
it was agreed to put in more Tobiras.
The choice of evergreen Ash was discussed.
Vice -Chairman Sallan asked how bike path would operate. The
Associate Planner said they were not sure a bike path would be
ideal for Stevens Creek Boulevard because the CO count is very
high. There is no timing schedule for bike path installation.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said because of plants proposed along front-
age, she was concerned about them meeting the criteria of screen-
ing parking adequately. She said everything needs to be taken up
2'. Mr. Coleman ascertained she was speaking of mounding.
On Bandley Drive,
Vice -Chairman Sallan
suggested substituting
something for the
Raphiolepis, something that would
grow to 5'
or 6' in height.
The 5' planter strip
on Saich Way
should be
planted with plants of similar heigth.
She pointed
out the
intent to be met
is the guideline that
cars will be
screened.
Mr. Coleman said the mounding at Home Savings was 18". Vice -
Chairman Sallan said it should be whatever would do the job.
The applicants asked to trade-off some islands, noting the
committee was asking for an additional 2800' of landscaping.
Vice -Chairman Sallan again asked for estimated cost of addition
2800 sq. ft. but the information was not available. Mr. Glass
said the original landscaping was 6000 sq. ft. and was now
22,000 sq. ft. without the 5' strip on Saich Way.
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Public Hear-
ings closed
HC -51,148.1
approved w/
conditions
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL JEETING
Member Koenitzer said he would be willing to trade off small box
trees for 5' strip and additional footage at service station.
Vice -Chairman Sallan announced this was a Public Hearing and
asked for comments from the audience. There were none.
Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close
Public Hearings.
Motion carried, 4-0
Member Koenitzer noted he did not like the chain link fence,
coated or not. Member Weinstein felt it was a reasonably acceptable
treatment.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said since applicant has concerns over cost
she would hope that between now and the City Council hearing they
would have figures of what the 5' planter would cost.. There was
no clear evidence at this point that it is overly expensive.
Member Dressler moved to recommend approval of Application
HC -•51,148.1 to the City Council, subject to the enclosures
Exhibit A, B, C, C-1 and informational materials submitted
along with Resolution No. 1248, subject to the standard condi-
*� ^^ ':nd the following specific conditions:
A 5' planter strip be added on the west side of parking
lot along Saich Way the full length between curb cuts
and that landscaping in this planter be consistent with
the remainder of the project.
That the landscaping bed in front of filling station on
Stevens Creek Boulevard be increased to a width of 12'.
and that the landscaping in this bed also be consistent
with the remainder of the project.
That parking along Stevens Creek Boulevard remain toe -in
as planned subject to review after completion of the
project by City staff and subsequently changed to parallel
parking or one way traffic control be effected in the
entire parking lot if a traffic flow problem exists.
That the direction of parking along Bandley Drive be
reversed as requested.
That the applicant is to clean and paint the service
station building.
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(6) That the applicant and his engineering staff work with
City staff on a modified roof equipment screening plan,
consistent with the applicant's budget and aesthetics of
project.
(7) That the City staff investigate the City trees around
the project and replace missing and dead trees.
(8) That the landscaping plan is to include a mounding
varying to 2' to 3' high along Stevens Creek Boulevard
with enough setback to provide for planned future bike
path.
(9) That the applicant submit an exterior lighting plan for
the building to the City staff for approval with a
review after installation for lighting intensity and
modifications if requested or desired by the City.
(10) To compliment applicant and his staff for their
improvement of the project.
Seconded by Member Koenitzer.
Member Koenitzer amended the motion to add following condition:
(11) That the planting of Raphiolepis on east boundary in 5'
strip be changed to tobiras or other plants that grow
to 6' in height. Similar type of plant to be used in
5' planter on Saich Way.
Seconded by Member Weinstein.
VOTE ON AMENDMENT
AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Weinstein, Vice -Chairman
Sallan
NOES: None
Amendment passed, 4-01
VOTE ON MOTION
AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Weinstein, Vice -Chairman
Sallan
NOES: None
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Motion carried, 4-0
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Versatec, Inc.
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
The applicant was notified the application had been approved .
with 11 conditions. Vice -Chairman Sallan thanked them for their
cooperation and dialogue. The application will be heard by the
City Council at the April 15, 1974 meeting.
5. Application HC -51,088.161 of Versatec, Inc. requesting
modification of site and landscaping to allow additional
parking area adjacent to the existing industrial building
located in the West Valley Industrial Park, 10100 and
10060 Bubb Road.
Staff report: The Associate Planner said Versatec had received
approval from City Council to install some trailers in rear of
buildings to be utilized for engineering space. They now propose
to place trailers and additional parking space on the State right-
of-way. This is temporary.
Mr. Cowan pointed out that in original approval for the West Valley
Industrial Park some landscaping was supposed to have been installed
on State right-of-way. line. Staff would like to see the redwood
trees installed now as per original plan.
Area will be seen from Stevens Creek Boulevard and freeway.
Agreement has been readied between Versatec and the State. The
Planning Director felt it would be appropriate to allow one year
approval to be reviewed on a yearly basis.
Member Weinstein said his concern was trailers becoming long term
permanent type structures. He would go for this on yearly basis
review with landscaping to hide trailers. A discussion followed
on whether landscaping for trailers should be required.
Mr. Jim Blackwell, representative of Versatec, explained location
of trailers. He said the redwood trees in original approval were
on their property. There are about 10-15 old orchard trees that
will have to be removed. He stated this is a temporary situation
as far as Versatec is concerned. The latest date for new quarters
is May. There are 200 employees and 86 parking places.
Member Weinstein asked how it might be possible to screen trailers
and parking being proposed. Mr. Blackwell said it would be diffi-
cult. Agreement with State is that they will restore grounds to
original condition. This will be in use only 6 to 8 months, but
would like a year's option if possible.
Mr. Blackwell proposed planting 6' high redwood trees on 8' centers
along entire width of 350'.
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Mr. Blackwell noted the drainage ditch extends down to Stevens
Creek Boulevard. All drainage on parking lot will be toward
drainage ditch.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said she had dual concerns. The redwood
trees along rear and the removal of trees. Mr. Blackwell reiter-
ated these are old orchard trees.
Staff is to work with Versatec with regard to power lines being
extended to trailers.
Vice -Chairman Sallan opened the meeting for comments from the
audience.
Mr. Don Bettisworth, 10490 Glenview Avenue, Cupertino, said the
trees planted around trailer could be donated to parks when they
were removed from State right-of-way. Mr.. Blackwell noted the
use of the trailers would be of such short duration, they would
rather not plant trees that would have to be removed.
Member Dressler moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close
Public Hearings.
Motion carried, 4-0
Member Dressler recommended approval of Application HC -51,038.161
of Versatec, subject to whatever standard conditions would pre-
vail and that the application be given a termination date of
December 31, 1974. At this time if renewal is necessary, the
applicant can address this body. The motion is to include the
installation of redwood trees on 8` centers along rear perimeter
of property adjacent to State right-of-way. Seconded by Member
Weinstein.
Member Weinstein said he felt there was a certain corporate
responsibility to community these days. There should be some I
trees of temporary nature installed on State right-of-way that
could be donated to park after trailers vacated. Member Dressler
said in view of short term basis he could see no reason to screen!
trailers. I
Member Weinstein amended the motion as follows: 6 to 10 box
trees be added in attempt to screen trailers and break up obvious
stark nature of trailers. These would be temporary trees. After+
vacating trailers they could be donated to City park or otherwise,
placed. Seconded by Vice -Chairman Sallan.
Public Hearin;
closed
HC -51,088.161
approved w/
condition
Amendment
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MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
Member .Dressler said he felt this kind of thing was unnecessary and
ridiculous. It put a price on approval.
VOTE ON ANEND-TENT
AYES: Member Weinstein
NOES: Members Dressler and Koenitzer
ABSTAIN: Vice -Chairman Sallan
Amendment failed, 1-2-1
VOTE ON MOTION
AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Weinstein and Vice —
Chairman Sallan
NOES: None
Motion carried, 4-0
Vice -Chairman Salian informed the applicant his application had
been approved.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
6. Discussion of Sign Ordinance
Because of lateness of hour, discussion of Sign Ordinance was
postponed.
NEW BUSINESS:
7. Monta Vista Paint and Hardware, Inc. requesting approval
of a temporary sign located at the northwest corner of
Stevens Creek Boulevard and Imperial Avenue.
Staff report: The Associate Planner showed a photograph of
temporary sign being requested for an 11 day period.
Mr. Don Bettisworth, 10490 Glenview Avenue, Cupertino, said this
was an attempt to bring business to Cupertino. Measurement of
sign is 3' x 30' and will hang over existing painted sign on
east wall of business for 11 days starting April 19 to April 30.
Minute Order P Member Koenitzer recommended a Minute Order to allow the sign
for the period between April 19 and April 30, 1.974. Seconded by
Member Dressler.
-Lotion carried, 4-0
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3, 1974 H -CONTROL MEETING
The announcement was made that Chairman McLaren had resigned.
A resolution was approved to express appreciation and accomoda-
tion for her six year's' work on the conunittee. Each member
expressed their appreciation for her help.
ADJOURN, -ENT
At 1:03 a.m. the meeting was adjourned to April 4, 1974 at 7:30
p.m. in the library conference room.
APPROVED:
s/ C. Nancy F.;all.an_
Vice -Chairman
ATTEST:
/s/ Win. F. Ruder
City Clerk
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