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ASAC 1973 - 1974 ARMITE nJRAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE MINUTES 1 of 12 O1/03/1973 - 12/19/1974 d rx cup IF 2.0300 i,^,rre r .; x.. +y,A• cam.= =�.t : 1973 Cyly RALI } r S ,LU"sc TOx .L FLAG caned to order at 7:33 ail b9 Ghaizs� ' "'he meeting gas the Flag• with the Salute to %ULL. CALL IcLareut S,,llan aad Ambers presents Ozeaslc;r, tzez, Chaar:.an Sargent ti ers absent. hone Associate ?fanner aubert .)wan Staff present: Re Jecretary _,uth Cox Recording iI�U' ES LiE F ;7�t1US OF es. S Aif'rp' ,?*$set 1• of )ecemba 2�?t for minutes .of. ecem�erj �.t. n the f;.rst additie Yl Bnng Cr.+nmiss{om. to read Oil page 1 tocaiang, �iembar Salla- IlisbeA city Staff. sue. hereshavl condition 3, L"ember Sallan t:ished to Srallon size, On page 6, the whole project of be a miuimupz tra= size for a3 the trees ahould. 15 and that along Sazato�B-Svnayvale i2a well 8s on the..north side of Ralph gallon sire as 'he City er al an wished to•insert• t �' condition at hater and spa that it is,in ac�ordanre Or Fagg �' ,c_; this p taking into cousida", %linut=s of Staff s'liould Ch. planter strip, lints the Cst - 's p ;iece::b r with the rest of , olow concrete level an p.." �; rov-.: 2ante- Mill .,e b- 1972 • ?P +.:ion that the p_ h to �jerform intended function. as than€a� should be high noug to approve the :_ender toen:�tzer moved, seconded by riember Sallan, minutes as "hanged. carries- + 5-0 ,c>c ion i :w_' l3liR +3 ?"gm 'ark` A yrb�r� k4 . 411�'—�{d 'age 2 S IYALb iI'abl' W L'1VtITCATIONS Staff member Cowan received a cosazutication f: = Cummings *and Company regarding the Barclay Banes Center, sign. It was placed under Unfinished Business for -further-discus 6ton. ORAL COI S[NICATIONS None PUBLIC.kBARINGS HC-51,066.3 2. Application ::C-51,068.3 of SIGYMASTER represented by SIGN:11STER ,; Bob McKinney requesting approval of a sign plan for a commercial building located in the All Am►.arican Shopping Center, 20051 Bollinger Road. t As the applicant was no -.b-ar 5-:i':,n r o-.a this..appl cattion Abe deferred to the end of to• ac-snJa. Member :icLaren seconded tM- Lion. N :•otion carried, 5-0 3. Application HC-51,202.5 of M- LRAI SIGN AV: SIMAL CORPORATION representing Dean Whitter and Company requesting approval of a sign plan for commercial office building;located at the south ' east corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard and Finch Avenue. Staff ;ttfr. Cowan noted the applidant's request was, fvr approval to mount a Report '2'6" x: 9' internally illuminated'plastic sign on the Dean Witter S, Co. building within the Barclays Bank Center. The present sign is gild letters illuminated by* spotlights,, The Staff felt perhaps a plar,tic sign was inappropriate. Proposal "Mr. ;im Cassidy, Federal Sign and Signal Corporation, said if the-appli- �cation was approved, the present lettering- on the left side would be ,removed as it was repetitious. He said the problem is people have ,difficulty finding the building with present sign. He showed: samples bof sign material, slate and white plastic. He said th` client felt the 41luminated sign was still conservative, but would help identify build- King. The columns block sign except to traffic passing directly in front ,of building. Slides Member Sallan asked to have slides shown of present building signing. Identifica= 'ar. Cassidy pointed out the gold letters don't sho;a up on brick walls do and the client was missing identificarion he should be getting. i y .gF � k 8 • - a k Yam$ `�"•' � ��i§ �'.a `fs i yip ` y � �i �� `* 'y't xP3 ,l..ae k airs .eq -q � a3Ld ?;.IItITTg�.f11" ;� ��llI3AFY 3, 1973 li-4U1�";;2.0�'. 19EEi,T:�►fi� � ' ` � �� ' r r. r, ,� ;•i � ? ;� c, a . ..t'a.°1 �.'& �'�� '#`xt� t cam» ,.c� rt Staff. ,'�lsmber GQwan pointed-out roast that the . srclaY , Sms,,a Fc an shogpfu$ r. ►ter. sig�tA and vea,t t��. "r could ;n,aw fl Es center sign on, that, sign', Chairman Barg°:nt ag-sed the gold leaL would stand out fetter , No thru against a sta_ne:: wood background better than against the brick. ' traffic The location of the sign was the,problem, and until, other buildings, were placed in t •�e center, traffic"would not cimse In,as shown op slides. He commented that :jean Witter . is an excelleii organize- ' rir�r. Ind rar"irpe pd.egaa;ttp. 4APnt;f .caation. He suggested perhaps, the sign could be �Isceif above the door. Nember Koenitzer said he thought the gold lettering' was more Gold leaf elegant and in keaping with the firm. He suggested moving over appropriate to a position on different side of..column or. mounting on a wooer to center plank could acob�el3sh olbjectives and keep eleganee of;gold l,ee� r Is -Aso suggestedta second sign on east or west fata of building, by ;:r. Cassidy. said the client did not wait to add any .ad.Ouional signs. He also anserered °'r. Cowan"S' sugges.t3 in of. a., ga.aa tl shopping center sign by saying there was too great a distance between the center sign and their building. Member Dressler ascertained there was a 3' canopy under the. over- ;Recessed han& and suggested a..rer sed light to shim ;,lowp. q;v the gold Light letters to make theca stand out. f:r. Cassidy said there was illumination from ground lights but that the columns hide; slo except ditvctly in front. Moving, tee sign f:roju lefty .to right. 4 will help but would still not give enough idcntificatioa. Member Sallan noted that. changing brick background to wood. and ;retaining retaining the gold letters would retain conformity of center. center conform - ity :.r. Cassidy said the only difference is letters from gold to white. The distance fr•lm the center sign. would crake conformity . to roof more important. ;r. Cassidy was then notified of tha alternativi.s available to Decision him. He said this was the sign the cli--nt wanted and ha, would prefer to have the committee either approve or disapprove and then application sent to City Council. G;iai.rman this was a Public Hearing and asked Comments for cocu::aucs . 'CO—M warn none. invited Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Hember Sallan, that Public Hear- Public ings be cloud. closed 1' Page,, t► P:C-51 2C2. Member Dyes ltw aged that Application RG5►1,; :5i" Weluc c -' approved be modified L4 relocate the existing buildiaag identificatiaai.� ba3iE.ag. w/mod$fi- Dean Witter and Co., Incaiparoted, from the eest•,side to than t-.. cations side -of �tfii 6u1i&ftf g"ate£ uee the"eA-6tA'Jq-g' dffL1` be imdus�te on a`ratchiis:g stilts + a 3ored $a4.kg$��46f to,:ins W t�► color and architectural design of the roof. The mot ofr'%is` i.�t¢Cer�d to include relocation of ground illumination for ni;tat light. Hember gallan' secoudea AYES: Mbers Dressler, Koeni.tzet, Sallan and Chsirtha r 5argextt Noss': :Ier� ar McLaren ;lotion carried' 4-1 Member ',•_cLarsn wished to note that she felt the applicant had not had much accomplished for him. Chairman Satkint said the only change Vas. frbm the white to gold letters end' from tiluminating lights tb 6k.te. `:dr, lights. ' iftex further"brief discussiort, the applicant was notified this applia:ation- would•be heard before the City Council on Tanuary 159, 1973. HC-52,068. Signmaster 2. Application FCC-o51,068-3 �-` Signmastear. Copy change The applicant was still not in' audience. `Chaii�'Qn Sargent-aAkerl Mr. Cowan` to si !.ott Aides of proposed' sign and'surrounding`ai•aa. Mr. Cowan noted the sign will 'be 2' k 8' and 16st� all criteria. Ruling to After a brief discussion among committee thesaAers, it was agreed-�thiat be made even though the apoAc8nt was not pfesent,,a ruling could, be made based on Staff's presentation. Chairman``Sargent silted for'questiont or comments from audience. There were none. Public clear :iember Koenitzer moved, secone-�d by Member McLaren, to close public ings closed Hearings. HC-51,068.3 Member 2lcLaren moved to recommend approval of 13C-51,068.3 to City Council approved with the conditions that the sign is to be 2' x 8' instead of 2' x 9' w/condition as applicant proposed, subject to condition Y and standard Ii-Control conditions. Member Koenitzer seconded the motion. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, McLaren, Saban and Chairman Sargent 140ES: None tot mot, carried, 5-0 l IM '�. Mr'. Coca-in is to t mrifp ap tY rtl c t t' �j� cant to } b �', e'notified REVIEW Or, Ctum Or COYX ON Sim PACE r 4. BILL ENG Ho Ho nsstau- sn existing sign located in the All American Shopo'ing rant Center, 10895 S: `Blhfty `AvenU6.' s It was noted this sign is irk the same -sthc--ping= dentet- Ia, p, ktV16 Slide of s,Irn of Shop" i1T. tc 15S chats ed .t6— proposed sign Ito Ho slides of prepo90d.;s1gft. �Ue said', COPY he had asked the applicant to iie at `the. hearing,. bait' the appl.leant was not present. riEmbL'r ticLaren said shk g4t_;there was too much*on,sign, ands t w hnma F made 1—.)king. _here was-,Sgrkeral conpurrence amobg.` -be members. .> ;% Y, :iember :ic:.aren reegminencled to cQ4tittue• applications¢ , e `: _v • „ Application be resubmitted;.with better copy ;,tea ,,,in keap. iSx r�Ltl ` r he f; igf sf continued in the center. Member. Sall,an. seconded the motion, AYES: Members zessl r, c:oen3tzer, :ScLarsn`, Sal .raz act Id { C1741 (111 - t UN11"I:Jisti-D BUSI_ILSS Mzmber McLaren noted the sign at the Mexican Restaurant which has been =EPiexican under discussion had blown down during the, storris,'but ha& 4,gen ;ap'lape4. Restaurant 'Ar. Cowan said the City Attorney was in touch with the owners, and they ; would be coming in for review- of sign,plan., „ Chairman Sarg4nt noted Vallco Purl: calls for one situ per tenant, and Wells cargo ::ells Fargo Bank had two. Mr. Cowan said a temporary-sign had been putX Rank up in conjunction ;with -rand opening but would be kept under,survzy. Member. Sallan wished to modify condition 8 1 resolution on HC-51,199.1 � HC-51,199.1 to add that "Ahis planter strip should be r.,viewed by the City Staff Modification to be certain that the nature of the plants are in accoade.nce with the approved 20' olanter strip proposed by the.Applicant. Plantings ,should be high enough to compensate for the elevation of the parking area above the planting area; plantings at mature growth to cover win4`shields of parked cars." This modification was unanimously agreed 'upon'by the committee. .e A 7 < .-, ' >✓�S'ic ¢ t ' , Mires}} +: _„ r x , - gfi� x x K9 d .tSTze Sd 70age 6 .era � �� , 21 "x,� a 0, =uilding site :!Ember;Sallan quested the status of the stops an%3u oit t Ho"stead,& liomes ad-fRqd ,Otk4,O'kaosy, Avoauw. ::tom 40f ami't ,!spay checked and ap,.xoved bj the Eugineeritag ttC�pBrtme it` butt. Zia u7 d into the matter further. hell Service :tenber Sallar+ asked if Shell Service Stat ion where big trees had bra 'tat on misplaced ha¢ i> n :ttat; ied Hro too said,t1ci; Shappard,thad dons Ob.. %SAC/Planning Member Sallan suggested holctiog the meatlpg platmed,earl:far regarding "orumission use permits; this- to be a joint meeting with Plann:i:n�, Car znlssion. .1r., sating Cowan-pallid': attentiaa, to,tt ,mematrandum an S rc steci . ,era tons in tie :.lc.e't-:ctural .:::> >itt� :,:•i= :a�a Proc::�:t. i:e Lrr�:=fly scr,*::.. .ride.: yt3 cola z - . ,441e, point :W as ;to :hdld;a pFrehear ng tvnf�r�arce prior='tea, ", :i inp4,date for, vvchc applicati.ort., Ux-a -ati'ar vain t^_ havd-phis cumm.itt_s adopt an official policy statement :li:ic! vuc,+_ 3t- pul.at- - that the entire development approval package be review ad at onr t The committee wasi;genevally An favor,-of -thlat,i but it wad n6tsd thfit this could cause i4te'�cofiiaittae_ thatV, indicated they would like time to study ;` . Cowan's prassntat1o&i`, . ► - gent 'none!' Mat= atJ t bast, r�;1 4e S C'had 'snvary & 1973° Chairr.:an Star � , ating continues! 1; =20sid2,' Ili ,.:Bo sa ur'ni#t, 'ii ti'l �ti ' � li#ary' Y° meezfn and a ppecial ni-esti.ng"*as, to be hh�,d itf tl iiiie to -d sruss geu_ral guide lines -for the antire 'Crossroads area. The meeting was sent for inasnapt, Jlfuar3 -8, t1b be held f6_!the 3iltrzy of City &fall. ..r. Lo an .said ha would invite the lanrlscapa architects . 'Coleman, to be present. -s io re arciirg A memorandum from 71anv nt Ditictbr Sisk was presented and a brief _a:st r Plan d discusslon held regarding plans for Town Center Crossroads improve nt aautification- areas, rossroads iiEFI` $�Si�'ESS arclay 3r:Y'.c ;Ir-, Cowan read a communication from-tummings and Co.' regaro`inS the s,t,n at the Barclay Hank Center, askins_ to ba allo=.gad to i_a-a the Led ?av l:lian on sign as it 'now e::igt . '?tstf.):r McLaran mo •ad tltalt sign remain as it now exists and �smbtr Sallan :sscondad tb:. .Motion. The co::nitt•._-agreed unanimously. Motion -carried, 5-0 } :izadows � mouid ti�_adzd .,.:..:tier ,,o1.nit7,r note.. an the c0ndor!1.111.I.::: co:::,)l:.s on_cause of Crud'': Saratoga :ton-., the of `.:rmbanik:l:nt was G` high with C:i:ajjj tile raffle pass through. i!a said the !sound was to be G' ;:end was no:, Ir. Cowan said th,� tenants needed 'th- height bzcause of ttuch traffic. ::}ournienC ;Ember NCL:?L'S?n GlUVe(1 LO 1dlOU'"21 ^.:CiY_1llr dL 9$UV im• ATTEST: APPROVED: C y Clerk Cha 'a i, q P°� ',` � 1 w rrI, ,,k �iS-:.;! '� yse�� ' �,�, sh �n� '��,,�f..,xn.'• sy r ','Mal •u �. ''q�r.. fi e �' rti F�,E 'C� a MINUTES op T% IIEGMAR' 1�EE'�l�G� `�HE=�tCI�3�Tx '•�' ,., z=' . ApYFOVAL CGFi�!'�TTEE 013 3Ab SpM, 17, 1973 IN THE COU14CIL CHAl'iS�, CITY HAM', CC�IPFI ilb "C IF�1t lA , SALUTE TO THE FLAG < - "4tes��rtt� Sarg�� vas called to order at 'hoc 705 8.M. r { The Meting wi.tb the Salute is the •rl:ag:' ROLL CALL on McLatens Sa11an and°Maitmau Sargent*. "etattker7•(ar09) Piemhers pree ta Memtbete absents Dressler Staff Ptesents Associate Planner Rbb6rt Cowart ^ " Recording gacreta� :Hut1a Cdae PiINGTFS OF 'NHS? PREVIOUS 1'1EETI14Gf 3 1913' :i3tautes of Approval a Architectural`"• end•Site Appr*vb1'Af iUUteG'0f JanuAt" January 3, 197 apprcve rove minutes i i ns Member 11+c1,aren, to approve presented liember Sal'!an moved, seconded b,.Y as presented: r Notion Carr eel, 3-0 POSTPONMENNTS: HC-51,211.1 " Segeola Mortgag6 Company was taken off postponed Application HC-51,211.1. of Agenda hecauso, of new Council conditions whirr: would cheese lam: (Sequoia 'iort- scaning. gage Co:�pan}�) 14RITTEN CO}DSU;`1CATIONS: None 010.L C01H1NICATION'S: None f C { + .< SC-73 MIlNi ES 4)F` TH9 JAW, .17, 1973 fly 3 x,.r Page 2 PUBLIC HEARINGS: HC-51,296.1 1. Application HC-51,296.1 of Bob's :Big Boy Family ,s ogrga�uted Bob's Big Day by Robert E. Eakin requesting approv4,,p .; P, ,Wr. t seeping, grading and undelrgsovurtd#.ng of utat3it# + 1,V_:a facility located at the snnthwest corner of Alves Drive Sarataaa=Suwkr ai-e Road. Unusd #0m meeting Aecepber ;2ZO. 4972. Staff report Kc. Cowan opened by informing the corm#Vtee that the ,Clay Council, lad authorized funds to hire a landscape architect. He also noted the set-back guidelines adopted at recent meeting are relevant. Building shift- With regard to Big Boy',s application, he said the revised plans are landscape in- basically the same as origlnally,submieted. However; the building crease was shifted and Alves frontage landscaping increased from.lg' to 20'. Slides shown Mr. Cowan then showed slides of site. He noted house on southerly end of site will be torn down. He commented that Gemco sign was granted on a temporary basis and. the sign removal is to be :a condition of approval to Big Boy application. Slides of Big Bayfl restaurant in Mountain View were shown. One concern was the blank Trellis on wall appearance on back of building. _,A good trellis was-s4ggeste4, back wall to offset this blank wall appearance. The bui101t will be visable from all four sides. Architect to The Big Boy and Bank of iunerica are bath:j valved in development detail land- being discusued. Mr. Conan noted than committee should not get scaping involved in landscaping In detail,',as W., Cgleman.cill decide detailed landscaping. Sign 4llegal Mr. Cowan said the City attorney felt it would be difficult to, and massive as require applicant to move building. Regarding the proposed sign, proposed he noted the sign was il .egal since the app?ic!ant was talking about two signs ev:n though they are touching. Also the sign is quite massive. Sign guide- Chairman Sargent then advised the committed that landscaping would lines to be not be discussed except Interior landscaping, and that guidelines given on sign should be given. Mr. Robert E. Eakin, 22270 Kendle Street, Cupertino, signed in and Chairman Sargent expressed the committee's appreciation for his having made suggested changes. SITE Member Sallan said Member Dressler was absents but had asked her to express his preference. Ile preferred the building to be located on corner of Alves Drive and Highway 9. He also wished to note his concern about the great expanse of parking lot. i M� .. `,w�' - x^°"' ' a .�. cg „ ,. a,wp se � ar� a tr' � sr k'�✓�r�y dam;� r% �� i AtTmus OF 821E JANUARY 17 1973 R-cOrIML M=r=G lg urge 3 Member Sallan said her preference wa• In line with original xf.. .,,, Lilding to Staff presenta>�ian recikmiristtt4 t`hig `11,65iltdsk be.,set 'np 'bn`the, north, parking cotter with parking to tha.south i6d, ruse. She realfted=erase- k6`s6Lb and ment was a problem and -suggested moving °buil:ding northerly and- freer easement southerly. Parking to the south a d rest would be more aesthetically pleasing. The property Mould function es well did Big Boy would get better visibility having two frontages rather than one. She 'noted sidewalk proposed '7n property is adjacent to building and suggested meandering it with iatersgersed land- scaping. Mr. Eakin said the sidewalk was in a raised plantZ:,6 area and Meandering would not be compatible with building landscaping to have a sidewalk not meandering sidewalk. compatible Member S- Jan questioned the -increase to 40' from 301 on the 40' driveway driveway. Mr. Cowan answered it was to facilitate getting cars, to facilitate off roads as soon as possible. �. raff 3c move- inent Member McLaren noted sidewalks were proposed to be of'cobblestdner Cobblestone She pointed out cobblestone can be hazardous for sidewalks and " idewalks can would suggsst using exposed aggregate. She expressed her satin ie hazardous faction with location of building:' Member Koenitzer said he would prefer the building to be moved �lanting not north but had no strong feelings on this point. Regarding S' sufficiennt for planters along west side of building be"Yeen sidewalk and Mall expanse building, 3 spots for planting trees will not be sufficient to provide adequate landscaping for the long gall expanse. He preferred exposed aggregate for sidewalks; not smooth concrete. Chairman Sargent agreed if building were moved to the exterior Small park to corner of Alves Drive and Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road there could be. break up parking a problem in visual aspect: as well as inner ttevelopment. However iot expanse there is a lot of parking lot and he would like to see it broken up with perhaps a small park halfway into the parking lot area I-stween trig Boy's and Bank of America. He agreed the large wall apace would need either lattice work or a wider planting spot with larger trees in initial planting. He noted Staff had recommended wood lattice work, widening area and putting in trees. Member Sallan questioned proposed planting along wall. Mr. Eakin Espalier plant said there was a planter on the entire side of building with on trellis plants 3' center. He said the plants will be about 3/4 'zcight of building at growth. He suggested 3 seperate planters for cleaner look. Plants could be espaliered on trellis against wall. ® Chairman Sargent asked Mr. Eakin if he would be willing to plant plants reaching more mature plants. Mr. Eakin ;-,id they would plant something halfway up on about halfway up wall. wall rs 'r t _t .. ".F "• � f 1C-73 `MUWES OF TIM JANUARY 17,e r103 *-CON1� Oi t�Pa6 ZAW , Page 4 5 trees - Membs;- Ioenitzev :eru ester a trco� re�t�r .. tad ;pt �o Q s . Clumps of trees also.ipMested v44;yIq heS.ght and ].�i a&Ion of; pldant�sfi,;port p P of trees, Chalrtman,r',argue indicated that ;perhaa sa3s�1 . boxes might not be adequate;. He suggested a tree - paants of various heights in a _broader box. Landscaping Mr. Eakin said he had a goad understanding of what was wanted arid, did not feel there would be a probl,ea to submit a landscap#,ng ,flen that was satisfactory. Parking area Member Sallan said she had the same concern that parking area .was too large an expanse of cement. She suggested that on north of. building the planter be increased from 3' to V, and _�he installation of s:ue planter at other end where electrolier is tc be placed. She also suggested running planter bed .between .Esfo,.,. . end planters of about 3', ,decreasing stalls, from 20' to ls'. . . >r Integrate wI Member Sallan expressed her concern that the building and parking property to area should integrate with property to the west. west p'-,inter bed It was noted that planter 'bed between p :, id planters might be a safety hazard safety hazard in that people would b_ forced to walk in traffic lanes. Space only Mr. Eakin noted he was agreeable to any increase in landscaping limitation in parking •area. apace would be the only limitation. ARCHITECTURE Member Koenitaer.cibserved that ,entrance to building isn't on . parking lot side and since there will be no parking on Saratoga- Sunnyvale Road, people will be walking around building to the No newspaper entrance. He also expressed his diosatisfaction of roof lanterns, racks or vend- feeling the orange lanterns cheapen building. He also €ele there ing machines should be no newspaper racks or vending machines in front of building. S1umpstone vs. Member McLaren disagreed wit : the Staff recommendation ►ghat a cement stutcc_o plaster exterior material was necessary to maku Big Boy's compatible to Bank of America proposal. She felt the trellis struc~ure on rear of building would be attractive and could be used t-o connect with walkway to other buildiligs. She also noted that. the roof lanterns are a part of Big Boy's identification design. Mr. Eakin explained the lanterns are of a 'Sanish type to match interinr chandeliers. Member McLaren inquired committee's feeling on slumpstone vs. stucco. Member Koenitzer said he liked the different textured walls and did not feel uniformity was wanted. Member Sallan said she was agreeable to proposed material. She felt the .rear elevatk a was unattractive; did i.ot like flat roof and noted this exposure would be visual to entire interior of property. M� v9"t kp! MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17, 1973 `ONffROL 4ETING �;�•� {� Mr. Eakin answered these coma4e6t8 * Q ►Iainiti that t t rear of the building lsntiitfis t is slumpstone reversed bloc�,.s,behind tho anterns. This plus t:ie planter areas bet iea laniefn8 would break up flat' appearance. Member Sallan inquired as to pedestrian access to interior of Pedestrian property to integrate property. Mr. Eakin sa:d the only ipedes- access trian access was at rear of sidewalk. Chairman Sargent ascertained the air conditioning units would Air conditioning be behind flat portion of roof and would not be visible above units" the roof. In answer to Chairman Sargent, Mr. Eakin described ceramic Ceramic the tile in front was composed of 2" square tiles of olive green color. A discussion was held about having lanterns on pillars Instead Lanterns on of roof. pillars The committee then commented on sign as presented. SIGNING Member. KaenStzer objected to busyness of text and suggested a Monument-type monument type sign approximately 4-5' high. lie'Also suggested ttgn and move moving sign to other side of driveway as this would Allow traffic to other side pulling out on Saratr�ga-Sunnyvale Road to have a clear view to the north. Member Sallau agreed with these comments. The statue :n conjunction with sign too busy. It was sxxggssted Statue integrating statue with sign. Mr. Eakin said it coul4 be graced considered inside raised planter against building and would be V O instead of usual 7'. It was noted that guidelines for signing in this area are being Signing guide- prepared and it would be better to continue the 'sign portion of lines ap7lication until these are ready. Chairman Sargent then asked for questions or comments from the audience. Mr. John B. Boyd, 454 Forest Avenue, Palo Alto, saie he had been commissioned by Bank of America to remodel building. He noted architectural students in audience. He had three comments to make. (1) He felt the 30' setback on Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rr %d and 20' on Alves Drive with landscaping on corner would hide autos, (2) slumpstone can be compatible material to buildings ® in the area and that tile roof woad tie in, anti (3) it might s z, '4x d RC-73 XUWES or :im 3 iJARY 17, g73 l -C Page 6 be possible in the future to connect pedestrian walWay with Big 967''s as property develefes:on paxcel.B. A may might be e�e�1.e 06 the 10' easement beio�esu `b d dibg and P�4pdrty Dine. � Public Hearing Hembev HeLaren merle it m6tio1,A, sbconded,hy Member Koeuitzi ri,`-14 dose closed Public Hearing. Motton carried, 4-0 HC-51,296.1 After ascertaining .that undergrounding'had been established, 'Member Bob's Big goy McLaren moved to recommend approval of application HC-51,296.1 to approved I/ City Council subject to H-Control standard conditions, Staff report conditions of December 15, 1972, exhibits Revised Site Plan, B, Bml, Eo 'g--a, E-2 and F 1st Revision, and subject to the following conditions. (1) Landscaping, grading cud signing to be reviewed at a 'later date. (2) 40' driveway installed Gt entrance on Highway 9 instead of 30'. (3) Exposed aggregate on sidewalks in this development and 3n future developments. (4) Additional planter to be installed under the electrolier' facing on south side of Alves Drive to the west of existing planter box. Existing planter box to be increased from 3"1to' 5' if Staff recommends it. Minimum to be 31. (5) Bicycle racks to be installed wbere Staff recommends. (6) On the rear of building, a mood trellis beam should"be'" designed similar to Sambv's. Wood trellis to be used, throughout individual developments as inte,rating, ain& between buildings to tie in lot 8 from Big Boy'a. Ubere` feasible. This recommendation made with the understanding that the Luek� Stores will remove existing Gemco sign facing iiighway 9 and` Alves Drive before any building permit will be issued for Bob's Big Boy., Seconded be Member Koenitzer. Amendment Member Sallan added an amendment that west elevation 'planEsk Area be increased by one or that the length of the planter running against building be increased by several fait tot-l. .Member Koenitzer seconded the amendment. VOTE 01 AMENDMENT: AYES: Members Koenitzer., McLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Amendment passed, 4-0 VOTE ON MOTION: AYES: Members Koenitzer, McLaren, Sallan. and Chairman Sargent NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler t Motion passed, 4-0 '` ��►73. a Chairman Sargent notif Led the applicant that the site and archi.tec tote portion of life"`app cAti "mod li®e4ft`eiP&►roved 'a d bdAnemd before the City Council on. February 5, 1973. Landscaping, 4 inga and grading to be continued until a later application. q 2. Application RC-51,050.1 of Bank of America represented by BC-519050.1 John Brooxs Boyd Associates requesting approval of sited Bank of architecture, landscaping, grading and undergrounding of America utilities}for addition and remodeling of existing building located at the south side" of Stevens Creek Uulevavd .pproximately 300 ft. west of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rosd. The Associate Planner noted the application is for approval of site, Staff report architecture and undecgrounding of utilities. lie reported under- grounding had been taken care of. Mr. Cowan said the Bank's propo sal included an overall face lift as well as an addition to the existing building. The drive-up window might create parking problem on site. 43 parking stalls are ;required. The plan calls Parking for 31 stalls, but shows an additional 19 spaces in drive-up lane. stalls The City attorney had checked the ordinance and found this could be " allowed. 25 to 302 of business will be transacted via the drive-ul window according to the applicant. in order to male the site function the westerly entrance on Stevens Easement and Creek existing drive-way will be closed off. The building on corner • median strip will be removed and an easement constructed. At least half of the proposed 501 easement would have to be built. This would be a one ::ay lane only. Zt was also recommended to install the divider strip at this time; Member Koenitzer questioned if the City Engineer felt traffic -flow Traffic flow as proposed would be satisfactory. Mr. Cowan replied in the affirma- satisfactory tive. lZamber Sallan asked if stacking for drive-up window could present a Parking problem for people leaving bank area. Member Koenitzer noted drive space way patterning shows two lanes. He also expressed concern about amount of parking and traffic flow. He noted plans called for 25 Customer parking spaces and 6 spaces for personnel. He felt the bank would probably need more spaces for its personnel. Chairman Sargent pointed out that some landscaping would have to be sacrificed to get more parking spaces. Member Koenitzer suggested perhaps Home Savings and Bank of America could share parking. Mr. John Boyd, 454 Forest Avenue, Palo Alto, and Air. Anthony Anitreil, Slides 260 Fifth St., San Francisco, then showed slides 6f existing bank and shown exterior elevation of proposed building after remodeling. 'Member Sallan noted 5 plants had been left out on west wall and i7as told this was done to allow for better traffic flow and more parking. i ram• a 4' k HC-73 MIMUS OF THE dAWARY 17, 1973 H.-CpMOL ITT Page Mechanical d p a CtiLaChaniCals y91gt k'{ i izl�}�� Is 3 s" 1 g 8Y t r �n"p" T^ Tix __`71Y.11�. � ► $ a 'gieden on equipment on & 9 • �t ff roof SITE Member McLaren asked the applicant if 12' lane and median as shown eta p.�an_,4"ld-be installed, Xr, Boyd said there c,qul d be g' of plant- as �suggested by Staff, andc25' of asphalt,pav enr. Member 4a4itzer reiterated he did not fQel there `ems enough parking in;genexsl for ,customers. He way signs at necessary points. oW paiat,ed..#;pipes indicating traffic flew ito drive-up windows. Chairman Sargent suggested directional arrows could be also be painted on pavement. <11r. 'Anitreil. indicated there was as agreement fq; addi- tional parklug.fn sboppi :center. : > Pedestrian Member 5.allaa. saked-for dimension of w . parking stalls, est s he and traffic under Mr. 4oyd said they wgre 3'. to .aisle. She suggested putting S'planters arcade back in. .:She noted * .IO-. overhang out fraia building and`-sug ested same treatms at.. n exigti concrete stalls as o«► west side. tii 'Od said that wh®a deve2opt? ,small,areas, angles were` c�iffieult,to maintain stop and pedestrian traffic would be back un4eralk wdul3,be the wheel and',becam ,trash ca2Tectors. Be said the ` 'under. aicc=ads." Median should ,fiber Sall.am said.median, strip• should be put in now, be developed Upgrading Chairman ;Sargppt spoke-in-regard to flow,of traffic. and has lso�e that appreciated parking would be.adequ=te,�y Y. $aL�l tAe agpli.ant�s upg'rad"""'of this property was appreciated. The sign was not being di:scu4$ed but did remind the applicant the sign had been allo4ed on temporary basis and was in stark contrast to what was approved for Rome Savings. ARCHITECTURE Member Sallan felt the building was of unusual design and each, elevation, attractive. East end roof Member Koenitzer felt the remodeling to be a very reasonable approach. should be tile He was not in favor of wood on east end roof; thought it should be tile. Chairman Sargen". pointed out to students in audience that model did not do the drawings justice as it looked out of propoi:tion and stark. Ile felt the proposed remodeling to be a vast improvement. lie had no objection to sirr` :-n buildings, but reiterated the one in front should be something artistic and creative in keeping with the building. Existing sign In answer to a query from the applicant, he said both height and style of existing sign were in question. It was poiaced out the logo on rear of building was very attractive. &�•r F '+ x T 2 � � t x k .. t' k Tgs of Tn JAWARH 17 i9? H-001+ML N=tW -73 .. axl Paget'9 Member Sallan moved, seconded by Wember McLaren, to close Public Meq' - Public ins when there were no comments from the sudlence: ftarings closed Motion eAtiled, 4-;4 . Chairman Sargent then gave a brief summai$o,. He safd the applicant had Summary been in several tines discussing site problems relative to traffic flow and surrounding streets and this was the beat alternative presented., Parking at adjacent lots may help parking situation. In regard to Site site, the commlitee should make sure there are bicycle racks, Also that it will be possible for pedestrian traffic to get from buildia'#' to street safely. Architecture - changing of east, roof from Wo- od'feature to tile. Wood fascia to be stained dark to tie in with the rest of the development and-overall coloring to•be done 'in nat,:ral 'colors. Member McLaren noted that it would be-difficult '-- out in half of the Curb nec- median strip. Mr. Cowan reported the Director of Public Works dill want essary to see median installed,' at least a-curb. After a brief discussion, Member Sallan moved to recommend approval of �50-51,050.1 application WC-51,050.1 with the attached,Eneloitties'A-Revised and B approved w/ standard H-control conditions and following additional conditions: conditions (2) Directtional landscaping-and oi propertyning ts ould�adlude8comb t ntob ground markings with arrows and lines, and free standing signing If-necessary. (3) Issue of median divider strip an north and east elevationd be clarified by City staff within the next wbek ®r two and;be' installed if possible. (4) Provision be made on site for bicycle racks,. (5) Provision be made for pedestrian walkways to integrate this property with adjacent property. *Walkways to be of exposed aggregate and they be continued all the way across. (6) That the wood fascia along front portion of building in front of drain spouts be stained to match existing ,rood. (7) That the planter on the west portion of property be reinstated as per original Exhibit A. Member McLaren seconded the mccion. Member Koenitzer moved to amend motion to include additional condition: (8) That the roof on the east end be the instead of wood. Member Sallan seconded the amendment. VOTE ON AMENDMENT: AYE: Member Koenitzer NOES: Members McLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent ABSENT: Member Dressler Amendment failed,; 3-1 Amendment fails FT MR T Y RC-73 Page 10 3 MINDTES OF TaE JANtf ki 17, 1973 H-COMMI, lmiir .VOTE ON MOTIONS_ _ AYES: Members Kcenitrer, ,MclAren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOES; Alone ABSMU: Member Dressler. Motion carded, 4-0 Chairman Sargent notified appl.tcnnt the application had been approved regarding site and architecr°--a and would be before City Council on February 5, 1973. Recess A ten minute recess was held, with meeting reconvening at. 10s.15 Y.M. 3. Application HC-51,211.1 ,T Sequoia Mortgage Company, coptinued. 4. Application HC-51,,299.1 of S.F.A.R.E Inc. regvAe$ting approval HC-51,299.1 of site, architecture, landscaping, grading, lighting and S.H.A.R.B. Inc. under-grounding of utilities for a professioual ,office ..complex located on 6.9 acres between Stevens ,Creek Boulevard and Alves Drive easterly of Key Chevrolet. Staff report' Mr. Cowan noted this application is for a professional office and commercial complex in a .planned development area. Resolution lla. 1135 outlined_gpecial ,conditioas and concerns of Planning Commission. An additional concern was the amount of landscaping between office complex and residential area. The Council would like to see some type of planting area in the turn-around area.. Key Chevrolet to the west had concern about ,proximity of buildings and planting. Additional landscaping on Stevens Creek and against building was suggested. 2' of landscaping could he picked up from parking stalls. He noted Council was concerned about landscaping .along Alves but present configuration was approved. A fence or some'type of screening was recommended to separate applicant's property from the residence and church property. Parking short In answer to Chairman Sargent's observation that about 18 spaces were short on parking, Mr. Cowan said this was considered aiequate. Planned Develop- Chairman Sargent; noted this was Planned Development area and site, ment as far as buildings and parking were concerned, had been established for use permit. Member McLaxen noted it had been established that on Stevens Creek quau-vnt the minimam set-back was 50' for each building and Building A fronting on Stevens Creek Boulevard was 50' set-back only 30' from curb. Mr. Cowan noted if building was moved back, parking spaces would have to be moved to the front. 0 E ' r ,?o T MIDI n OF THE J'AIVARB' 17, 1973 R-COMWX t=TtO KC-73 2,4V1153KEye 11 x f The applicant, Mr. La'i'ry Madsen% 67E Arrowood Ct., Los Altos, ' W. pain 196168; 209M'St 6 Crsel ul avar ;" Gti pat* $edit °, of My Chev- y Cbevrcvlet `asked 'ta be heard. Zee'said t'We pdtpose :-` eotffeccial rolet de`reaajpments ;fts to provide empI err.z sdAeli, 1 tom%.' 1 d,-"It commentsft there were ample pro esio'ndl-Ioffides in aiea. ` Chdvio bt-Weeds as much vi"-ial impact as possible and Building A will obstruct vied into their `ilding and display'... Hi "i'd he'did hot knotr ®tot i� use pttrwit otij-' 46iday idiot end 'thAt' tfit usual"thlig &hd Vag Od notify neighaors. He felt the set-back should be 50V as 9' thbo pattern on Stevens Creek Boulevard. He would -64gee't muv+ing`build- ings =0' from curb, more plants by used car lot, low profile land- heaping and 'mounds in front of`20ild'ing A. S�.*gge�ated't ke "u3�idi !k 20' shorter. Mr. Madsen answered Mr: Weiss by saying be didn't -feat under' db'ligt tion to have this site enhance Kev Chevrolet. He said he N4'his cussed total site planning with all committees and gent through all necessary 1)rocudures anal all 1ad 'approved{: CbairuWn. Sargent noted that with 'the approvdl =that was gr6titeit=by ': Squs:re foot- the Planning Commission and t-be titty 'Council -th3a'board'*as W3 t its age and a position at this time to reduce square footage of buildings or td location cWnge'locations of buildings.' s.: Member McLaren said she mould like t w,mituws to reflect coin of Minutes to ASAC. reflect concern In answer to Member Koenitzer, Mr. Madsen explained the various ARCHITECTURE elevations and indleated interior ezxails. He answered Member Szllan's question by describing building mater-ial Building as wood fasela, heavily textured cement plaster with anodised` materials -%minuet mountings. The buildings are approximately 17'' in height. Mr. - isen answered Chairman Sargent's query regarding the air condi- Air condi- tionii* -nits by stating they are hidden on. the roof with no part tioning unit being visi'b!e from the street. In a discussion with Member McLaren, Mr. Madsen said every possible Site locatio angle for changing building locations had been considered and this Was discussed the best. Chairman Sargent said he found nothing objectionable about proposed Underground- buildings and found them very attractive. It was ascertained that ing and undergrounding of utilities and drainage had boen approved. drainage EC-73 lawjTzS OF THE JAMM. 17, 1973 H-COI�TA� 1�1� Page 12 LANDSCAPING Member McLaren said a would concur with Stuff iecommm , s_ , sty to the landscaping adj to the home on Alves Drive. Also the red - Concurs with , tion f�rco -t-he staff;.., . t re houtsl I add$ �► ;��s F on westerly Staff Rsconmren- property line with ,febas or fence IUMPIantingto sate residential dations area. She, noted two Vould. also help Key Chevrolet in ,regard to parking of veUclea and re ,Vmdg shop adjacent to that area. Interior Mr. Madsen answered Reaber McLaren's question that the landscaping of 10' circle sand- circle on the interior would be tam junipers. Be-eald nothing too tall scaping was desirable became of visual impact and the junipers would relate to other landscpaing. Fences Mr. Madsen said the-fence on east and Crest,side;would be .6, 6' redwood described or cedar wood fence running from property line to property;,, t0ing into consideration the set-back requirements. Something nice would be necessary been the glass areas of offices would be facing the fence. Bumbleberry Member Sallan was .ecocerned with frontage along; Stevens CrX.eak, Agulevard. Pie Parlor And would like to see some higher plantings then juniper in the circle. Landscaping: She also expressed her preference ,to see landscaping adjacent; to �Bumbleber-ry Pie Far2or increased from 6' to 12' Lan( ,caping Chairman Sargent said he did not feel adding• 2'nE land scaping pshich previously would be hidden by the front end of cars. was practical. After a brief approved discussion regardlae,the widening of the landscaped area, Chairman Sargent ruled this had been approved by this committee and .by City Council and so should not be changed. Fences dis- Member Koenitzer I sa3A 3r regard to fence along ,the boundary,. from cussed the inside would be attractive with landscaping but from tr.a outside would be a row of fencing. He suggested possibly Key C,hevtolep would put in a fee, planets;. He noted driving on Saich Avenue ,there, would be blank area of feacize. Member McLaren noted Key Chevreleet had planted trees arm their site. Slides shown Chairman Sargent asked if anyone were present to speak from the church property Lv=ated immediately to the south of the single family residence an Alves Drive. There was P. one. fir. Cowan showed slides of .area under discussion, noting the biggest expanse would be from Burger Chef to first building. Chairman Sargent asked Mr. Madsen to stipulate where fence would begin in relatia( to building A. ►::. Madsen said it would start 30' from the property line. The east side fence would begin at rear of Bumblebesry Pie property line and run to 10' from curb of Alves Drive. i r t ax x.y y MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 179 1973 *-COrROL MWIM 3q Member McLa6red I U.'51 area and a deign-type cuscrete around AutOtior circle �itfi ligl�tigg around circle After discussing condition 1S whieb re to app tat aalaall.V;avid s feandering for a.meandering sidmialk along Alves a notfngi;ba; the sidewalk natural contours of property line give a.m nd An$ effect, It was not rz•- deeided not to require that meandering sidewalks be installed. quired Member Sallan noted minimum size of plantings were not listed bvt 15-gallon should be on final landscaping drawings.. She suneatem 13-gallon, trees trees at least against the Luildings and plants along frontage of against Stevens Creek,,IncludingAftider. She noted junipers are flue but buildings at the westerly portion of building extending into parking, something else should be used. Air. Madsen answered Member.Sallan that the mound Mould. be as high,as Planting on possible without creating_a run-off. problem, probably about 3'. She` mound suggested where grouudcovering is now shoaua, some type, of planting should be added to the mound. Since the landscaping plans were not,sompX,Pte, Cba*ratan.- Saxge* t9161 LaOscaping Mr. Madsen that in: order to approve thejandscapAng, these-deta.:.ls information were necessary,and asked If he would 14ke to coat a this,-,VQ*t Q_., inadequate Air. Madsen was amenable. to this suggestion.. Chalp an. Sargent said,he hoped there could be an abbreviated discussion,v&en it .came. back. . , Chairman Sargent then asked for comments from audience. Therea ware ,. none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member ftiaren, to close Public Public Hearings. Hearing closed Chairman Sargent summarized by saying that Plame;4 Development applica tions always brought problems, and he had allowed, Mr. Weiss to speak Summary hoping he would have an alternate plan for moving buildings. However, that aspect of use permit could not be changed so ASAC Phould address themselves to the architecture, undergrounding of utilities, grading, and continue landscaping. Member McLaren suggested that lighting plans be included with the Lighting to landscaping and Chairman Sargent requested the applicant to bring in be included a jample of lighting regarding height and where they would be placed. with land- scaping Member McLaren requested applicant to bring in design of fence he was Pence planning to use and show where it would begin and end. design re- quested x h "`b 3G-73 Iiya ` 4,17 T JANUARY 17 p 1973 ?aga 14 p a y iC-51,209.1 Member Xoesi,tzer moved to recommend approval of HC-510299 1 to the approved wl City Council with the standard H-Control conditions, Ex:-iblte A'lat zouditimns t lakia�sBt C'aft &'let lavisiddi with the addf�t9;anal-Fcartdit�s j (1) landscaping and lighting be continued, (2), bicycle 1rad_kd,` ll be -,pruvide4s->. (3) iidawdlk can Al4ea Drive be aunt l audus vi;tah the curb and met-, 8'meandering` gidewalts, AYESs Members Koenitzer, McLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOESt ' None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion passed, 4-0 UNFIXISHED BUSINESS: 5.• Application HC--51,273.2 of Ditz-Crane regvsesting to :mod fy the approved site plan for she Northpoint Townhouse Develop- ment to make provision for tennis courts with the central open space/recreation area. 3tsff Reporr Mr. Cowan noted the application was to modify the approved site plan by replacing con,non grass area with tennis courts. Tiro things to M be considered are what impact tennis courts will have On pley area end the visual impact. If mostly young families are buyero, the play"area would be more needed- if y'oung'adult,terai's courts vould' sere put-pose. Proximity of courts to surrounding area should also be noted. one fence for Mr. Warren Gilbert of Ditz-Crane said their plan was to put is tWO> pool and teani tournament size tennis courts adjacent to fence that encloses swim- courts a ing pool so that otse fence would be used for bath pool asad.cbuit Tennis courts would encompass a 120' x 110' area. Courts highly Mr. Gilbert said a managing consultant firm had helped plan recrea- recommended tional program for the development and the courts were one of theAr strong recommendations. Plastic wind- It was noted that canvas was common:y used for wind-breaker but that breaker an open-mesh plastic covering that would allow visibility through the fence would be used. Green pavement and the open mesh fence of green plastic would give an open effect. Tennis courts Chairman Sargent commented that 3ametimes it was necessary to have selling point certain features for developments to sell, noting this was a very internal situation. He said Ditz-Crane felt that in order to sell these townhouses the grass should be sacrificed for the tennis courts. 3 MINUTES OF 'tM .1ANUARY 17s 2p3 A discusesion followed about various other places the courts cad be dier site$ peat in `ordar"te'-silvdxthe, open-spada � removing tbis plots womid Jeava no-oplace,fwsvobildr6a tolplay footballs baseballs etc. Member McLaren suggested remov8ng aosme mite ll- north of swimming;ppr l and putting the,courts there. Member McLaren noted that Ditz-Crane was already•advertialsi-the teAnth '- Courts already courts as cne of their selling points. ft. Ed'Cates advertised said they had not been aware they would have to come in and get approval to wake thin change. Saillan felt- smber llcLaren's suggestion of putting ddurts in Replace units the area to the north of the swimming-.,V401 L& glade of the `four units rattier than shown was a good one. open space Mr. Gilbert noted these courts will cost over $150000.00 to install. Courts costly Member McLaren reportei that a councilman Was tondetned that it -had not Building too turned out as he had thought it would; it looks too -tight and,-.tdo close '- . dense together. Quite a few units for that amount of land, �Sha 1persyotally felt perhaps the applicant shouldn't try to make any'changesi�- Mr. C Ubert said that density was not the subject; applicant ask :to- Specific utilize open space in same recreational ironing - just another usieol- A recreation vs matter of a specific recreational area instead of general. He said no, general project is very effective until it is finished and laadscaping•16a 7put,'iti :. Chairman Sargent told the applicant there seemed to be concern among the Options: committee that this particular proposal wasn't acc ptable: Ue:Asked �.-- Continue or Mr, Gilbert if he would like the option of continuing the bring -to vote coming up with another locations or if he would like.SC;VUt-to a °vatG, which would then be heard before City Council MT G32"•trrt. 941A�he woul:�' like to know ghat the objections were, Chairman Sargent answered that the courts are luxury size; asphalt Grass replaced Instead of Gnaws, Its sugpoated applicant come in•with.an alternattve,cx;, with asphalt added information to convince the committee. a Mr. Catese after further discussions said they could get move infors1atU4-&'°' Courts.in this but the courts had to be in that location. A site Chairman Sargent informed the applicant. the committee was not disputing the need for tennis courts. Their concern was what siould be sacrificed for the courts. Com.ents or questions from the audience were then requested. There were none. Member Koenitzer moveds seconded by Member Sallan# that Public Hearings Public Hearings be closed. closed .. BC-73 MINMS OF THE JANUARY µ179 1973 H-CONUOL tEE'MO Page 16 rz .TM HC-51 273,2:; Member Kosalteer.=moved to-cdntl °appl cation,UCr-31o27U2,t.-a i1:,th9 continued next regular meet Lag of H+Cd ataog. : =tamer A areb-'aecorAdd OdIMUG ; ti AYES: Members toenLtzer, l aran�aS ►8 ghairmea S nt' .,. NOES: None ABSEN'fa Member Dressler + Motion passed, 4-0 RC-519227.2 i� a. Application KC-51a227.2 o` Measures Corporation requesting ,,ensures Corp.' approval of site and landscaping plan mdd4£icatlons in connection with the light industrial development.on Imperial Avenues Staff Report a Mr•. Cowan said the application was requesting to modify site and architectural approval, to construct a peripheral street conaecti the existing parking area and driveway adjacent to McClellais .-Road to Imperial Avenue. The landscaping proposal for McClellan Rid 4 is similar to the existing landscaping along the rofad. Emergency Member McLaren questioned ingress and egress off McClellan and Xr fire exist ' Cowan said there was only an eaergency,fise exit.- Drive around Member Koenitzer pointed out there would be .a; tremendously-long drive . 3/4 of area around 3/4 of area and then dead-end. Park-lid Chairman Sargent said he was afraid it would look litre a parking lot. effect sought He pointed out there was to a park-like effect and now all that will be seen from McClelIan Read, Bubb Road and Uperial Avenue would be parked care; not adequately screened. c; 'rounding not Member Sallan noted that mounding had been adopted to hide care but effective ` + this would not do it. It must be designgad so that vehicular traffic enough does not lo-k at cars. Parking in a Chairman Sargent pointed out these are attractive buildings and park- front not ing is not allowed.in front of other buildings in development. allowed. 5 Mr. Cowan asked for committee's opinion on concept of bringing parking and driveway around. Member McLaren said she would like to continue this application until it could be gone into in detail; tour was too late and she was too tired. Autcs screened After a briof discussion during which Mr, W. S. Burgin, 10475 Imperial Avenue, Cupertino, said Measurex would put in plants of paueh density and size that all autos would be screened, he agreed to having application continued. Chairman Sargent asked for comments or questions from audience. There S_:' were none. w� ldl:dtYTES Q!' TllE .TA13tIt�ltY 1797 n �^ Use, 17 T'Alta ltearinS• rlember loenit&cr moved, seconded by !'iet*er tfclaren, to ��. ►�' hearings. �.oa��-oa► AC�SI�,227•2 �tit the •2 d. .rc.xber Yo enitzer raored to continue ag:gI. continued next regular meeting- 1iember Sall.au secoaded the motion* 14,ember McLaren suggested this application be placed at the begiMing of the next agenda$ and Chairaan Sargent requested 161re COWAU on Wereopuea that both this application and the S.1t.A,R,Es app the beF;inai.ng. tiL4I BUSINESS ADJ�OUFLN,WIIT After a brief dir, J cussion °d te ournment �% 1207sl t. Imb�er Koenitzev Member ::cLareit rjaved for a secoude(1 !''^ iilotipna APPROVED: ch�i� n ATTEST: F e YrC Clerk ' e �;. .71, ,�.. x '� � t � 'x'- .SF { .y x�1�P` �rt 7 r N�� ,rF�� .-»a" � �' T •fi �; r Y "1 CITY Or CtiFE INO �' "f 3C' 1 !UIT 0 e'7' 74 103O0 Torre Avenu$, CupertUo Yfate ] Telephone: 252-4505 U ggZ / MI=ES OF THE REGULAR ITEWnNG of? HE T MaIITECTUt L ANC SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE ON FmRUAIY 70, 1973 IN THE COUNCIL CUMMER, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA, r " 1'he meeting was called to order at 7140 H with the Salute to the Plat. ROLL GAZoL .. ., 'Hem6ers p ese is O 'ass# c, `h ei 'aer mcLaid4: 9a11ift and _ . -ch'at Saig�t't Hambers absents None Staff prese t'i Aesociaie r R�eo a 'xutAry`-Rutt Cb* . ifL S © ' 'FhtESPI4U5"1+ TZNC Pp A zroval of`A�rcliitact+sraY"and`.Site Approval ftuisCei�i•bf lutes c 1973. <', January 17, 1973 ap;ro%red Ou,page 4, paragtaph 3- Member Sellars'eui8 tha�,'1 t`=line imul d'-. ate.correcte4 real "end pl.avters of aVbut 3', decreasing s°tai3:e fig,--2O' .t4" Member Koenitzer mowed, veconded by Member McLaren, to :a"t , { minutes as corrected, Motion carried*o 5 B0STP0%T_%M_:TS None VIRITTU CJcMIIGRTIONS Sta `!ewer Cowan. reported a letter from Mr. Teassdale, Chamber of Chamber of Commerce asking to be heard b ASAC regarding entrance signs for Ce heardrce to , S y € B S be heard undo the City of Cupertino. Ch airman 'Sargent said thin could be item. Uu£ia;is► ed 12 under WINISHED BUS"ESS. Business r a MC-74 mmum. 79 IL973 ��i/ ti�1Jif i Si page Z v ORAL Ct3MMICATION9 . PUBLIC Y HEARLOS HC-51,227.2 1. Application HCo51,227.2 of Measurex Corporation requesting approval masurex of site and landscaping plan modifications in connection with the Corporation light industrial development on Imperial Avenud. Contiixued.!'ford meeting of January 17 s 1973. Staff Report Staff Member Cowan noted this application was c6ntinu68 'frosa prdvidus meeting. The major concern was the screening of automobiles from Bubb Road and McClellan Road. He said the revised site plan would .lower_ the driveway and parking area by 21, putting them on the same gltade`liveI as Bubb Road and McClellan :Road., which is as much as can be done, and not interfere with the drainage. Be then sho4e8 elides- to refsdsh' the committee's memories of site. Present land- Mr. W. S. Burgin, 10475.1mperial Avenue, :Cupertino, said revised pkaus soaping to be would continue berming on Hc(rlel2an Road$ around :corner of BubB'Road continued and taper off, with mounding picked .op ,at,.Imperial Avenue. Essentially ' they would continue in sizf.lar fashion to present landscaping. From the sidewalk to mound on �L Clellau would be waist high. Mr. Burgin said the mounding would not completly conceal cars;, about 2' of case tops would be seen from McClellan, Road. Screening at closest- polbit to McClellan Road would be more densely',planted,. Cnt#e. Brea of asphalt will be at same level as streets. No interfere Member McLarea.exp.xessed concern about visibility, at the corner of ence with Bubb Road,.acd NcClellaa Road in relation;to �lasis�scap�.ng. 'Mrs-; u>? 9n visibility said the elevation was set back far enough ao that plantings WO-14-44 not interfere with visibility. Mr. Cowan noted the Traffic Engineer had approved plans. Impervious amber Koeni6zskr questioned planting along Rube Road, 14r,''Burgin said screening' that if plants dice not, give proper,screening, they would be changed to something that would give an impervious screening. Treea replaced Ur. Burgin said several trees had been lost because of too much water and would be replaced with Sequoias. Lighting Nember NcLaren asked about lighting. Mr, Burgin said they had shown w or 5 light standards along back of the area which are tall light. standards same as along McClellan Road and in front are shorter light standards with bulbs of 400 watts. 15-gallon riamber Sallau suggested substituting #6 to45 on plans. Sipe also rIonteray pines Suggested planting one out of three 15-Sallon Monterey pinos vn ubb Road and McCleilsn Road. a.Sukgift16did.,the Scrpeen cat ,+'i:`:i�t+ r�{.:t:� eat;.' -.,.> a'i 'Fi .v�x.,: .,,;.5' �"r e�` �s.l`i i �s:";_:�d,��"�'.: �,+t": xSS.c.�':�£: •cir�.7"'."� s.:r Chairman S.Argen:t asked for comment* ofrQw thet,(a ieg There were clone. Member, bressler,r seconded by :a#td Sallact4.a ed to claad Public. ° .?PUBLIC HEARING hearings ti :; ° • _ �8®led Member-,Sall as ,moved- to •tedocmmud:.approval to City: Council°of ?RC-51,227,2 application,;HC-Si,227.2 witb.,R=�atro3 Standard coad1tJ.0%k8 .aAd 1 anproved w/ the follovifth additional,,conditions = 'onditions (1) This is to include approval of lighting as reflecteA in Exhibit As: lot Rev#.aion and At 2nd Revision and Exb$bWC, 1st Revielon. (2) With'. regard, to, ;landse�giag� >t�tit tipateg�y pines lie-ted as Y4 on exhibit show a 15-gallon tree placed on the 21cClellan::Road side,, and,one,L5-gallon,.7cee be placed r on the.,,Bubb Road side., these balls, substituted; far 5w0llon size. :PIE >deaignated 04 be,substituted vtth nandiao or a similar plant with the preference,oi gii4s . committee being that the growth pattern be approximately 4" In-heig;hth to.provide. 4 sihlipld--,for.`parked automaWas,.-.,4 Member XmLaren seconded ,the. nation: : AYES: Y.mbers Dresslar, Koenitzer, HeLaren, Sal lan and Chairman Sargent NOES: Nona Notion carried, 5-0 Cha?rr.an Sargent reminded the applicant that all trees must be 6' in height at the time of planting. no natter what gallon, size ; is designated. He theft notified the applicant this would. be heard by the City Council at their meeting on February 20, 1973. 2. A0plication IIC-51,299.1 of S.H.A.R.E. Inc. requesting approval HC-51,299.1 of landscaping and lighting for a professional office ocmplw; S.H.A.R.E. located an 6.9 acres between Stevens Creek Boulevard and Alvas Drive easterly of Key Chevrolet. Continued from meeting of January 17., 1973. k MC-74 ' t3t S op THE FF.B " �.lr$y�z L� x," " ' , , Am ix Page 4 AAh Mar detai Cha =dA! AVZe ►t'1IdtAd A prior to presentation and requested that the tt8aa have this laformtl" hearings pov:tohearis�ga"of.rpi+�aatne S Staff -Report x Mr. Cowan noted site and architecture had been. approved by ASAC on Janvaty 17' 1973. 'At,the _ dit-.Cite CouQcil-,meetIugv<COUncIX bad . approved application with exception of setback of Buildings,&&. These were to be moved back at least 101. The Planning Director has revieved,site plan And °has determined that the plan as sub- mitted does meet with Council's request. The applicant proposed to place parking stalls, in diagonal position to gain an extra 10' which would'Xive a°;309 set black=which would be adequatevO meet Courctles condern. Be .noted the applicant would provide,mbre detail on fencing with drawings showing type of matirial'.and.eftgu. of fencing to be used. j Landscaping, Chairman Sargent sAid the committee;wouJA be discussiag laandscaping lighting and. ` only with Ole applicant, including lighting and feneiagb fencing to be discussed Mr. Larry Madddn 61$=Arrow66d Ct.# Los Altoefo s gaed. ia = Bumbleberry Member Sallaau roaztftdad,'thei applicant that-at the last meeting she Pie a:as had comAented om'landscaping-, berm_and specific plants"in-the Bua':Uberry.Pie"area, cone bi:WhUh-were'reflected ors• this presentation. Landscaping Hr. Madsen noted the landscapIpS plan sae~.being done pre:eaeionally profession- in what was a good solution to the project* He commented that both al? done properties or. either side of this project had next to nothft&14 the way of landscaping. Landscaping '.ember Sallan then said landscaped area in front of.Bumbleberry was ia;.dequate quite skimpy. Junipers along front perimeter of property woul&_ttot do the job of screening cars and would not add visual attractiveness to the area which ,rould:.hove been upgraded by including nose plant- ings on mound of higher nature. '-�orkinv Mr. Madsen said it was not f2easlble at this time to have a complete dressings not set of uerking drawings available. available Member Sallan made several other suggestions of additions and changes she felt would add to landscaping of the area, but Mr. Madsen said he would rather leave the landscaping to a landscape architect, and have it done professionally. rival plan3 Chairman Sargent noted mosit lattdocaping plans presented were done by not avatlabl profess anal lxandscape rrchitect®, but the City of Cupertino had erepoweredi this committee to indicate height and species of, plants, lie then asked Mr. Madsen if this presentation reflected what Mould be planted. Mr. 114adsen said that due to delay in approval of building locations, he did not have the final set of landscaping plans. �' ,,. qa aa,'�tl h 4 *r 1's ydn ,; �'v: . Ya " � ` a�"; ;•�' •- ;2'�. � 'Sat.�':'3 s, ° r '"'€..�.� t�y'�. s3r.3•. <.�3��. atilt.*..,*,'"%'mar +�.i��. > �. �-,.s.':.��az;.t'€ lo�� ''�'� �,�r ter . 14INL-MS OF THE FORUARY 7' 1973 U-CONUOL tMETTMG Uro-74 Page 5 Chairman Sargent said this application would have to be,,co ttlnuad ni Lighting, until final plans could be presented. ►sir. Madsen asked to have fencing and light sitaud2Xdiaa at4 fengfte, cb si e'&o but:'Cha aw-Shrgen t-mod, c laudbt:Aping these could not be approved until laudgcapinv,"Gi x.1 N continued Chairman--Sargent;asked for comments,or,=.questions froiw the audience• ,' P.1 fi Thera:wbme hope4 xr. ... Tiember Dressier, secondvA by limber:McLaren, moved-to. clost Miia-':x: PUBLIC REA., Hearings. 114GS closed it-:Ober Sallan,moved.;to dbatinue landsc,,&ping portion of'appl- 1tatiom"- KC-51,239.1 HC-51,299.1 until applicant brings before the committee final draw- to be ings of wheia hee-plans to Plant-each`=plant on property.. Seeoaded,.by continued Member Dressier Y: AYES: :fibers- Dressler, Koenitzerj McLaren, Sall.an and Chairman Sargent NOES: None Motion passed, 5#.1 Chairs &atg4eg told the>.applicant.be:should notify.Staff:whe€e.; final plans a available., 3. Application HC-519273.2 of Ditz-Crane requesting to modify the HC-510273.2 approved,site plau.2for the, Narthpoiat To!mhouse Developmept to Northpoint male provision for tennis courts within the central open space/ To-=house recreation area, Continued from meeting of January 17, 1973. Development Staff Member Cowan gave brief summary on background of application Open space vs explaining,City'S iwmlvement in this application.` .The applicant.. , structured had submitted a buyer profile on similar developments which 'ndicated recreational 2.9 individuals per unit* showing these types of developmeu to be space adult oriented. Mr. Cowan noted the question raised by ASAC at last meeting had seemed to be open space vs structured recreational apace represented by tennis courts. Chairman Sargent noted the applicant had been offered several altsr�a- Alternatives tives and had elected to provide evidence for approval of tennis courts as originally submitted. i:r. Warren Gilbert, 168 Jackson Street, San Jose, representative from Ditz Crane said he had alao invited a professional in the Real Estate maaagemeat field to add his in-put. Mr. Ken Young, 2295 ale Le Cruz Boulevard, Santa Clara, was 'introduced ® to answer Member Koenitzer`s que3tion regarding age of developments Older n rojects surveyed. 14r. Young said the projects ranged in age from 6 months to, should be- 4 years. Member Koenitzer noted the older the project the higher surveyed number of children per unit and the survey of fairly new projects would not be a fair representative of what the City could expect over, life of project. P 6 P*V Lam.* ratio of plr. Edson Warner, 400 montgamery Street Sage Francieco, eaJ4 t children of townhouses to new but suavely dose indicate a low ratio of chiUran - i 1/4 .011d Hr. <cows said Dr, -Ehal"alt theal $t8 '•lead:- per- unic estimated .25 child per Usti 2 acres for 5 Mr, Gilbert-said than theere apt*°two: stress In de.velopmant•devotced recreation to open spaces for play, active and passive, He also pointed out that Cupertino has no tennis court facilities and these would be- an:enhadeing-'factor for thin-part,of the city,. No canvas a In auswer _to Member McLaren, it was noted the fencing would'be covering j7 metal link cb •in with green plastic. open mesh covering.;: Replace units Member Sallan said it was her preferenW to have four units to a north replaced with tennis courts, leaving the opera Space. Chairman Sargent- asked for comments -fry:: audience, There were nozie. PUBLIC HEAR- ; Member McLaren moved, seconded by Member K,oenitzers to close INGS closed Public Hearings. .: Member IcLaresa receandeai2ppar6val of,- aplicatioa HCw5Ii,273, to the City Council, subject to H-Control standard`tonditioe�: and subject to Exhibit A,lst revision. The motion was seconded i by Member Sallan. AYES$ ttembers Dressler, Met wren, Sallan.- and F.halrmam Sargent 'NOES: Nlem'ber Koenitzer, T Motion passed, 4-1 Applicant was notified this would be:heard before the City CouncJLl- 5 at its next meeting on February 20, 1973; i Recess -A five-minute recess was called,,with meeting reconvening at 9s10-PM. K;,-510073.2 4• Application HC-51,073.2 of J. W. Loughlin requesting J. W. Loughlint approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading and uudergrounding or utilities for an eight unit. apartment complex located at the southeast corner of Stevens Canyon Road and Riveraide Drive. Continued from meeting i of December b, 1972. t _. 3*. JAI MIN7 M OF THE Fifiy'. !° i;Xf4S—k-=66fft i ftftfige J C '`z VVIII liC-74 Page 7. Staff :�mbes" d� ®tei3'r t lgcst o�3 had.;bleefi.:contift§Qd�� ,( BIAI • Uport ftoj',bj a h 6zt applicant. was requesting a 20' setback in the rear and the eq,Y rY ki 9b'"-i iiViek.�.. va in w 9 s�gneett@t1-4fi plat tffit!" Commission and City Counzll,, and was approved. He then-~ed, °f slXd:;s, of surrounding aireas proposed ucits. He said the Trafkic were iatufled�oith the' parting arrangements. Chairtoo Sargent noted there was only one iitgreE4 and "term One ingress this being on Riverside" Drive. He &I'6o-' questioned` the viduat. and egress access id neigttbot's'property to� the east' fram the secmn,sto`Cy unit, and hoped the adjacent residents had been notified so they Visual could' express'their feelings now and not later, intrusion Mr. Cowan, using slides, pointed out an area of possible concern; Grade the differenti'in 'grade bet*Oee'e this property and the adjacent difference single family home. fir. J. W. Loughlin, 10672 Heathcliff Drive, Cupertino, 0.9ned '-n. Member Koenitrer said he considered the fence and-°-gvz4ing 'aldng Fence useless easterly boundary a landb--aping problem, and thought ra retaining as divider wall should tie considered. roe noted the fence would be at than*;;" bottom of the slope and would be useless as far as-a visual deterent. Mir. Loughlin, noting fence belonged to home owner on the east, Retaining said a retaining wall i.ad been planned but the Engineering wall not Departmefit said there ire eitil ity' lines undergrounded -there. allowed He Said they had lowered the tahole unit`by 2' from original plan. Agreements had been made with neighbor about planting to be done along the fence. Member Koenitzez questioned height of archway. The archway will Archways be 914" allowir l adequate height for most campers and recreational` adequate vehicles. Mr. Loughlin said planting of same type as shown in neighborhood Landecaping was planned. Pieaber Sallan ascertained that trees on owner's , side would be continued on this side of the fence. She said there were any number of plants other than junipers that would create a morn interesting effects and asked fox something to be substituted for the junipers. Several suggestions were made. WMber Sallan felt there should be more at easterly and Fine to Qavaa southerly boundaries. 'sir. Loughlin explained this was a steep fence gully with chain link fence and they didn't want to block view down into canyon. A type of vine to cover the fen.-:a was plana►e4. x page Trash`,emrio- it wS*oaS 9rt Cd�tb4A ;;"h Bad sure Ord w;pr .be= rreCe #m,theaCe .> Ch"now- ,: ax8ets'$ opss ;be 1 t® c`ohave = water 6a ,a. .. _ . • . .. . �r,. _. j x ' PJ3LIC BEAR- Member, Sa23aa, sec ad d by Pteuaber.jl�icLareei�:moved 11 to a,lo Hearings. ING closed . � lic-51,0073-02 :-tembex.Koeasitaed moved to:recongnend approval of.; a+"a Xi ezlon. 6, , approved w� HC-5).,O7J.y 2s a pubj ect;tm standard H-Control coT ci�,t�toi,.e, 8��f141 coalitions A, 3, E JL a C., with:the following additiour.L, .coro'itlonsse (1) two trees of broa+'.leaf vari.aty., growlitg to about 207' speciman size, be planted on each side of the entrance dr3.veway;., (2) than. the trrasL collecting,,area be relocated to irAer or property of site; (3)- that the additional trees on the property Line be�pue" in; as- discussed with adj®iai:ag ;�ighbor. Seconded :by, tfember 1:cLaren. , 110mbera DFeseler, •KoepUzeir, McLaren, Sallan Chai+man Sargent 140ES: None Motiou ,gassed,, 5-9 r. Chairman :Sargleet• aotifi..e& the applicant ;this woeald be heard by ..the City Council on Tebruary. 20.,_ .1973-. , M-51.1211.1 5. Application HC-51,211.1 of Sequoia Mort gage 'Compady r'equest- Sequoia Jxi, .approva;,©,f site,; giradimg, ghtPs g in :ort age couaegtiun,-with a 6,.; + - ;.acre _condvmiui+sm_.cgnve sfo pf Company Del Oro Apartments located adjacent to 'and wesescly of Mary Avenue directly opposite the intersection of Lubec Street and :Mary Avenue. Continued from meotAng,of January 17, 1973. Staff Report Staff member Cowan reported that since buildings are completed, the architecture will involve trellis detail, trash enclosure, patio fences and carports. Ihis is a conversion: of apartments to a condominiuv. and Stat© law preempts the City from denying a request Of. this nature because of zoning or design considerations. ., The applicant could sell units as they stand, but wants to mgdi$y ,alto. There are two -areas of -concern,. Nary Avenue frontage west side of property along the freeway. The- applicant plans to reallocate some off-street parking spaces from the interior portions of the project to a central parking compound on the southwest portion of the property. Y S ' D ti r , MUTES OF THE nnum 9�;`R$�73`W-66fdRoi Page 9a Slides.were, shown of the area and proposed changes. Also an exertipe'of Fide Depagtt s4ir�win �pote�itit�3. p�►��tih�°apra�Ealistb ;�� .- waictt, will 1 be'solved bgelbcat9 oilfrz >' e o , trellis, carport and 'alga'cliarigee`��!"`d�cri�,ea�. Chairman Sargent Puled that since there'wae ao,lettering eta Signing to proposed sigh as submitted; this portico: of the a�OUcnt+lmt► be continued would be continued. Mr. John 'Masegian, 285 South First Street, fad Jose,, then sued in. In answer to Chairman Sargent, Mr. Masegian pointed out `recresa Trash tional building and swinmaing pool and said the trash enclosures enclosures would be in the offset area which would not interfere uttth-the flow of traffic. He said the enclosures would have gates.m. R= , Chairman.Sargent recommended a strong spriug to insure the gates were not left open. Mr. Ziasegian explained the wcod fences around each patio would Existing wood be stained to match existing -wood, matched Landscaping will 'be done only on exterior areas; dwellers c ll. landscape' inside patio area. Mftber llcLaren questioned if there could be additional storage Ample storage cabinets provided. �1r. ftsegian said there would -be only the area existing storage facilities but that each unit had ample storage area. Questions were rained about provisions for parking of campers and Camper parkin recreational type vehicles. Member McLfaren noted condition No. 17 of Planning Commission would cover this. In answer to Member Koenitzer regardin; height of roof on parking Covered park- area, Mr. Masegian said the roof had been raised to 9' which ing area should be adequate.. In discussing the sign in 3 eneral, Menber Koenitzer suggested the Sign discusse sign be squeezed down to 3' x 91. 'Ir. Haseg ia:s said the sign generally itself is 2' x 10'; the trellis work adds size. Marcher 21cLaren ascertained the name would be Casa de Anza. It was determined the a roblem of the freeway would be offset with F reeweV probl high trees of pine and redwood. Chairman Sargent noted the existing units look very bare and the Trees of buildings stark. Planting trees will be a great -improvement. specimen size Member Koenitzer felt more trees Rhould be planted along Mary 11C,-74 , 3� 01? THE FBWWMT 4 73.R 44 WMTWG_ Page 10 Avenue side of specimen size. Increase tree fir. Allen.Aecropgo a sham Boa d t Los 0eos# signed,tag o lam.• site scapimg,,plow. ,Y![gmiaer Sallan.discussed se : a t *once* "' the .suggestions that,502 of trees around perimeter bo iptcrea�e � gallon to 15-gallon size; #33 on major frontage ok iittkc A �# increased from 1 gallon sire Co 5-gallon size plantingel £neWay aide and packing area should be increased to 5-gallon size; Drainage umber McLaren questioned draining and was told it had been approved approved by Engineering Department. Chairman Sargent asked if there were any comments from the audience. There were none. PUBLIC HEAR- Member Koenitzer iwved,, seconded by 'riember Salla3n, to close Tublic I14GS closed Hearings. Motion carried, 5-0 HC-510211.1 Member Sall.an recommended approval of apglicat.iQu gC-51,211.1`too.. approved w/ City Council, with standard H-Control conditionsa0 Planning conditions Commission Staff•Report of Dacember 22, 19729 gxh�taita A,, Y6, B-10 B-2, B-39 C. D. and Es and the following additional, ,conditlonss (1) that relative to the sign portion of .appliaatioaa, this be continued to future meeting. (2) relative to .the landacapino, that on Hazy Avenue-aide.' of property there be substituted for at least 504 gf the 5-gallon trees, trees of 10' height. In aaddltlou',' all 1-gallon plants along arq Avenue frontage be, changed to 5-gallon plants. All 1-gallon plants along, freeway portion of-property be changed to 5-gallon p;.antas. Via motion was seconded by Member McLaren, AYESs Members Dreasler, Koenitzer, McLaren, Sallbva and Chairman Sargent NOES: :Zone :lotion passed, 5- c Chairman Sargent said the application had been approved and w-)uld be heard before the City Council on February 20, 1973. KC-51,307.1 G. Application ILC-51,307.1 of Empire Permit Systems reruesting Expire Pernit approval of a align plan for an existing service station Systems located at the southeast corner of Homestead Road and. Stelling Road. d, ,� �Cr7�s rPage 11 Staff Member Cowan said this was a proposal to charge a sign Staff report --name ,from Saco,-to Trion Then are star i request� %seas 3rF :,5 'x p x currguading grew. , Asa pFopQ ed atggis, P:r. `GTen Crtaa s 1� 0:` Boii 471��de" &qd said thdg would like to Sign proposal retain service legend that says Happy 2fotaiing. ' 19» 'iuA e" - Q$gns will all, be;rremoved and ,in its .places if approved, would be a a igs� s`ayla}g ` . He"nl$0 said 'if Blue Chip StA;no ;tip*ere► usea�, 'sistce Thep_ were gulp,�shatr nag tWo prices, a board,w!"Id be addod to give this inrQrmat :Qno i.`aml),er a:oenitzer felt the aign aeenad magsive avid rug§acted the masonry p*l.lar .could ,be,narrowed., Chairman Sargent .preferred the monument pillar to pole 'uffect« :1r. Cowan said existing light' on pole sign Would be replaced Light not par with batwing light; not part of application. of applicatic The committee dli-duissed various aspeCea of 'proposal and :fir. Crum indicated his 411in, ess tin accontodata to couistdi reefs suggestion Comments from .audisuce were requested. There were none. member' -Sallan, seconded by Mdmber 1`SCLat 4 moved .to egood'the PV(BL.IC HE1R- Irublic Hearinga. INGS closed tlerber Koenitzer recommended approval of°application RC-31030701 KC-51,307.1 with standard H-Control conditions and Exhibits !',, V-It with the app,.oved -r/ following conditions, conditions (1) that the p illar supportirg the sign be po more than 6' wide, (2) approval dogs not include any lighting other than sign. Motion was seconded by Ilenber Sallan. AYES; Members Dressler, Koenitaers HcLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent VOES.. None Motion carried, 5-0 7. Application HC-51,236.3 of Empire permit Systems UC-51,236.3 (1"mble Oil Company) requesting approval of a sign Empire Permit plan for an existing service station located at the Systems southeast corner of Homestead road and :Maxine Avenue. (tumble Oil Company) #@ N M ac-7$. NIMES CP THE I Page 12 Staff report tic Ga ten showedel3desti o this alien sti roundiifi re v� ,fbt. point 3i ' out 't&ere was to have, bed`- it U&e 0,81nedt station between this propertij `''tlaex faeeint c tiu�els i:� i L� ;; sggge�tedfiACr reNiers landscplt j sceeaingdge turd been approved` iae glaceq$ a gall:: .. Eel ht of There was a brief dlsc ussion rtg azd hem' ht of si . Mr. Cgs. sigst printed out the present sign is8' mounted oat'a 1_2 dolt*MI that proposedsign is 6=I/2° eiSii ost' l2° co]iaaui's 'to' cats$ Eie�.Ot by, 1-1/2'. He said the column would `be" gapped in rdsat iedWod to match eaves of the tmilding. Building sign no committee discussed replacing a4 it Bi AI8M on bng utith that not to be Exxon logo. Member Sallan fe3r' the txxoii sign on building teas replaced unnecessary. Mr.. Crum agreed that the #umble, sign would be, removed and not replaced. Land_eaping Chairi Sargaut pointed out to ir.. Crum that,it was tt4e desire reviewed of the Committee to have the iandgcaliiag around the eezvi.ce station upgraded. I©nlemeat :member mitiren told Mr.` Crum the landscaping, should be brought original, plan up to specification as originally,_approved.or, he would ;have to core back`at a later date for a 'bearing -be more the cauzxsitxee. �r. Crum said this would be implemented now and landscaping installed per_original plan., height of Member Sallan questioned specified "heiot of,'beige. 'Mr. Cruz i:C,(aee said he would be amenable to planting whatever tape and size staff would recoumend. Corements. from the audience were invited. There were none. P'LMLIC HIEA%- "--Tber Koenitzer, seconded by llzzber McLaren, moved to close INGS closed P"blic Hearings. FC-51,263.3 :'emhei Sallan recommended approval of HC-51,253.39 standard S- approved w/ Control conditions, enclosed ,Exhibits F and F-1, and following conditions additional conditions; (1) that the sign proposed maintain the existing base of the standing sign at the servi::e station and that the top porcton be as per F:lAbits F and F-1. (2) t:iat the applicant agree is a.Humble sign is on Service station it shall not be replaced at this location or application previously approved. (3) relative to landscaping, that the boundary between service stz:ticn and neighboring church property have 2 z t ;t k x+✓ .y, 6 , 5X '• i�i-,y o -fir s' e;_,j z 0.'. z. IT qd � 1 AB1 UTES OF THE FEBRUARY 79 1973 MEETING HC•-7�a t . page 13 installed_,a hedge type planting at a size and type to be determined by Staff. Any shrubs or trees that have 4YESs 1%,mbers B):resster Z�r�itzerc,, McLarea�r541as and Chairman Sargent. NOES: None Motion passed, •5-0 The applicant was informed this would be heard be£ore'the City Co"cij. on February 20, 1973, &. Application BC-51,075.32 of Carl N. Swanson Company' EC-510075.32 (Intersiaq Inc.) reguesfug approval.of, site-and ., Intersil, Inc. architecture modification,to a light 0.ustrial bi414= irg located at 10900 North Tantau Avenue on .tfie s east' �. ., side of Tantaa kvenus between. tames�tead..�oad'and Pruneridge Avenue. Staff Member Cowan said chic request was to modify architecture of Staff report building and modify site paen�be Increasing screened in storags area at rear of building. �.. It was:.ascertained this .change'was visible ouly.Ffrom Tantas,Avenue Cglors and and that new material and colors would watch existing_structure, Materials Member Koenitzer noted that parking and circulation of traffic would not be affected. Mr. Cogan reported this modification would help trash-;situation _Aodificatiou which had been a concern. Ile-tuber AScLareu.noted dallco Park had an improve=ar. approved. ; Chairman Sargent asked if there were any comments frow the eudgence.,j There were none. Member McLaren moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, that Public PLTNLIC HEA - Hearings be closed. INGS close:: Member McLaren recommended to approve application IBC-51,075.32 PC-51,075.3e. subject to it-Control standard conditions, and Enclosures Exhibits ` ppro.ed A and B. Member Sallan seconded the notion. t AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, tLcLaren, Sallan and ® Chairman Sargent NOES: None Motion passed, 5-0 RC-74 Page 1$ , ? •. tC was armounced tble application would be before City Coma an February 20s 1973. HC-51r(05.1 ei. Application HC-510015il-6 nf: Fr*ject- Coordithmars-represent. Harie Lng Marie Callender Vi" 'reqU""tiat$ approval` of 2'j tlUg Callender for a commercial building located at 20750 Stevens CrW& PUS Boulevard in the Cupertino crossiroade Stopping C;entces, Staff Mr. Cow4n showed slides of site pointing out proposed placement of report 17 ground level srotlights around large Oak trees and building high poLnta. A concern was'the intensity of the illumination, but this could be changed at later date. Building no Mr. Douglas Peck, 130 Valley Road, San Carlos, said Because there seen after was no lighted signing on ouilding and because building is a dark masterpiece of ecology, after dark it fades into oblivion. Easier to After a discussion of Staff,'eoncerit of illumination; end ascertaining reduce that theta is no way. of knowing ho-j -much wattage is needed, Chairman wattage SSargent urgeon noted that construction costs make it more feasible to put in and wattage. Chairman Sargent asked for commons from audience. There were none. PUBLIC HEAR Hember Sallan moved to close Public'"Hearings. Hembet Draoslkr-seconded INGS closed the motion. HC-519015.1 liember Dressler redommended application.RC-51,015.16 .for. appr'oVal -approved w/ to City Council subject to, H-Control standard conditions.#. Euclocures conditions Exhibits E. E-1, E-2 and E-3, and the following condition: (1) that after installation and operation of the iilub"ar Lion requested in application, ASAC and City Staff reserve the right to reduce the :,Rumination. : The mol"ion was se oaded by Member HcLaren. AYEStt Hembers Dressler, Roenitzer, %IkLaren, Sallar, and Chairman Sargent NOES: None Uot:ion carried, 5-=0 Chairman Sargent noted the application had keen approved and would be heard before City Council on February 20, 1973. + 7 d two ti PILNvrz—s OF Mttiit03Yf4M 0 ft— t1 V> ."; a +1 '1 i 10. Application HC�-51 075.3a of Cummings and Companyis sdjA �$1 075 31 Shwk)<regdeat at`App asl of 44 4t .� � Ana�_t4iiiiiiiiiiii Ito :hack r cia obuildiag:.laeated at N sea:aoat tdet: d rmw Vf£"VIOU6' .Road..?agd:.'tbauea6dsd��:S�ac� :ia tt�e miTa�2co ;�'i�l�ge 51h�ig�.' , - . Center. Staff Member Cowan°showed slides of building, showing wHera° thee. Staff report signs,wood be placed and proposed sign's a ; The signs would .be, placed uaader ,the canopy ov h-mg at aach ,nd of the buildial The signs are In accordanaa w:lth .ordinance. a Mr. N. Stansberry, 63i4 Laredo Dr., Fremont, explained the store has two entrances, one on each ead of building; the signs would., be placed over each entrance. After a brief discussion, Chairman Sargent asked for comments from the audience. These were alone. Member *McLaren moved, aeconded by Member ;allan, to eloee ,Public aYUBLIC Flid.:- Hearings. INGS clewed J Member,McLearen moved to recommend•for•approval, to C ty Councill HC-510075.31 application RC51,075.21 sub- j acr to H,-Control standard condi.tiotas., approved and Exhibit F: Motion w.ss seconded by Meml,er Dressler. AYES: 'Members Drcialer, Koenitzer, XcLa,ren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOES: None 1 Motion carried, 5-0 This application will be heard by City Council on February 20, 1973 at its sae: regular meeting. UNFINISHED BUSINESS 11. Extension of application HC-51,147.1 of Paul Swal C-51,147.1 Paul Swanson- Staff Member Cowan reviewed the application for an extension of site, architecture and :codification of the Parl Swanson Automotive Sales facility on Stevens Creek Boulevard. Extension was requested due to illness of Mr. Robert Swanson. Member Koenitzer recommended approval of extension of application HC-51,147.1 HC-51,147.1 for a period of one year. ,Member Mr-Laren seconded the extension motion. granted AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, McLaren, and Chairman Sargent NOES: .Member,Sallan Motion passed,`4.4 e M7C Y fr Fie-74 M S OF lI MM �� .° �.x Charher of 1ses*ar HeLaVent Afttrodine t the Chamber Com- erco of-.f arce and. at; a represents- c ease ws ex•, ,but ,A ;+a`.eft o f:the 4hambbu:,,ofiAdmerce, tive Mr. Onisht, standing in for fir. Teaadale who had had to leave, Entrance explained: teat'the Chaidb4r of Co rc`.e, was ftttoriebted in putting sie'lus to up entrance sign at the mains street -entrances-ta t1w city, Re city shored a picture of i proposed gtrEietare cthich"the`carftit,tee £eat could be controversial.; Hr. '0rAsb:L ,expLe wd thAt fi natiieec""had to be considered w4en deciding upon the type of sign to be erected. ?revicus z Mrs., 3u::u' to McL.area, 2,2101 Lindy Lane, Cupertino', Tave batik rcund siza shown of the Chamber's queat tor signs of desired design and cast. 91�Sfie then ahowed a drawing of a sign that had previously been considered. Chairmwa Sargent noted the committee wai not in a posttlon'::o give approval at this time. He recognized the problems; colt and so massy entrances Into Cu' perti10 He sua;_axatei perhaps it necessary that all service clubs be advertised. �uitt3 line:,3 Me,:,Ler ?icLaren ,aid (,antra; wax- notl:i t9 .in the ord£nartce that pet- re4;;ester :aiys w entrance- sites• h Cupertfso and aa�ccd for guide -tin"i • Cha irrlaa Sargent felt one general guide line could Pbe the sign, ai st:ouiG be of Sphaisla r<zstrx ��cure, • 9 Ii�:: uL'SI;iESS • . s rica .ie,:bar Koer.ttzLr distributed two articles, both concerjed %.ith au 1 Tingle T::{zbl� ,s o. i i^,:t-ri ee bui'�79.rL 8. `i:o con1c-nrns were fire 'atial w Tie w:i.ad tilat :-onxes be a-ircuiated artan Staff, ? 2:nni.ng Con.-sis Zion • ani ('tatty couil';U4 ",c-'bt( r Sallan asked About- tile.? Sign for S Ccho'.3 Rt!staurant. 'rho tat' .^ t:3.,�ri h::ti bee':l .2+prav:--d uy City and w.39 E:(7'aan =..•"d pil.nas h:i 1»:-a cu"I.L.bed for r--tew wit, :a' t:iilg eez:s. T:�ir i:�::pu:ary si r: pe�'�:Lt r,-p�.red ili Novur,,er. :`:i. Cowan asli--':lk for a di`;cu,: an oIi paccedural chanjat,, to smooth 4r):?t: qcr.-i Jx l'ha ii.t:Prl.ttl Ui:Obini i3. it .:poc'ial meeclag was 1 tC:1C::+:�V�''-j r L FUT iU43:i.j1j� -.BUruar 27. t-1)j 14:i:iu:r.6 a '.,!o lr-,n-t r)vn t icc adjourame nt e.t: 12:05 :1e tuber ;::.L,.Ti"a y S•:CaJ::UEt: tat•'. notion. ATTEST: _"PROVED'i Ci Clerk C?bairn a4 } L f * Y Xw n. 'Tr of /� sag. w -s�rh 'yt < . r _. MI Vf: b ,' : ns s.4�i.{J��"�: E �1z' ,�s:x tP3A.a:�'+�:,+.#'= �1ir 1� ��i<i�:i': +�firi/".�.75;' ,.. 10300 Torre Avenues CrmrtLao Fsge � Telephone: 252-4505 _ ITE S . u 'ixV+KM�f..�Y�� OI9iF �lL,1'... ►.!!'�,J'� _:7r S ';?.�.J�J. -..�. 1.�. '>:.> ITE N Th.e meeting was called to order at 7:35 PH by Chairman Sargent witb the Salute `to. the Flag. ROLE. �1.L Members prezent: Drre�,s� llerr, . dea:itzer, :E7 a45), 1 a�nf S&U -ice Chalr6an S.arg t Xembers�-absent:.. None Staff :present: Associate, iPlaasr Robert. Cwana Senior Planning Technician Toby Kramer Recardin _Secretary.,i.RuW,Co:6 Approval of Architectural and Site Approval Mint tna al Yebrpazy 7„ Minutes of 1973. February 7, r 19.73 approve ;ember McLaren ccrWa��d her,4d,4ross ahown'gtn .page Lb, paragraph► as corrected 39 to 22101 Lindy Lane. Hember Sallan moved, :seconded by xMember ZLare x, ,to approve minutes as corrected. Motion carried, 4-0 , POSTPON MSNTS None URITTEN COMMUCATIONS None 01UL C0:21Vr'ICATIOyS :lone uc-7 ''"Z MOUM OF TU AMRUARY 21, '103 it Page' YL1HUC HEARIM :µ &G-Sl, 09 3 1. 'Api` i�«-5 ;�33�. of ie► 4st�tsoai Mackay Be > se,'achi4au , 9tegi `grgd$s{g aid r, grs�u ing of � ;:ilities for d � ��gl+�ftuarSly"�l�ie i- t dential units and three single-family detached residentS.3 units located adjacent to and westerly of McClellan Road approximately 250 feet westerly of fu& edtloh"hf Byrne x Avenue. Member Member McLaren said she represented moth;eelIevs. aud-V=chaseim so she abstains would abstain from the.discussion of this application. Staff report Staff member Cowan said the application's site plan ha4beeti'epproved by the Planning Commission and City Council. He said an agreement had Wen, negotiated 'between the 'Flood•Coazrnl =DU=ir t and: the props,rty owner to allow the disrxict to purchase approximately two acres of flood plain below the developments The property ts_.the east and south are single family residence located in the county. Property to the west is recently-dequired :Hofse Ranch .Perak, Slides Mr. Cowan Lhen showed-61ddez;of=Atea&;feits-aced landscaping plan, and architect renderings of proposed buildings. He noted the bicycle path had been modified to provide for a two sided bicycle lane at McClellan Road. There will be a V walkw4yyo V. of leaddedped:hrea and 8' bicycle path. A brief discussion was held relative to width Elevation sir. Leonard Newman, Y� ckay Horses, Menlo Park, showed artist renderings slides new elsevatioas on sli teag and discussed them, r Street In answer to Chairman Sargent, Mr. Marty Hess, 10211 Bubb Road, level Cupertino said ,the fencer sidewalk and bicycle path would be at street level. Price .1r. Newman said the price range would be $32,000 - $36,OOG; these will be 950 - 1300 sq. ft. units. SITE In answer to Member Koenitzer, Mr. Cowan said the bulk of 40n space would be in the park. Applicant is providing A bicycle trail through the development to the park from McClellan Road. Howie to be Member Dressler asked about the yellow house at eutrauce to the removed development. b!r. Ne-Anan said anyone interested in It could have it just for the removal of it. Landscaping It was noted that the park boundary and development landscaping blended would be blended. cii2M',a MWM OF M MRVMY 219 75.�..pp e S r.., a ':. •emit t�Q.i�.•,.ldthl . '''� i�. eaYsI.� r£i�A6r �i'i'1 ac.Nx� mpt iTL�iiilil�r Kr. New , said air conditioning ves:s�1 evetanc a'adid AW f t this area. In a development this eixe there prc+ba `l` ar° d be =it !sat would set on flat roof with enclosure or on pY$MOO, � �f condi6io patios. Chairwa Sargent noted he wo04 prefer to have the unit ins units on the--patpr4'.< so-of elevation* cars, would be looming across flat roofs. Member, 34114n=quuesti@aed` elevation along,�WGIai11 $tea-'eatpt�e$ing` �' setback heffi dial of f0tees Ma6ber 5+alea'a4 question,regarding. setback:b�.notiag..thatr,tb* standard setback is 20' from property::isa to,building.; ends tkis: plan calls for a 24' setback from building �;o bicycle path. It was established that=.undorgrounding-;of atia:ities:, d grading was :' WDEWROMSN sccept2rin.' and GRADING Mr. Parker Smithy Toups Engineering:; "01v:lublin Blvda QDublin' LAIMSCAPING Cal orni,as` explaimtA ths:landscapimtg,map.' ZA--,MAaV41kvw d be _ continuous wi.t r curve-with i_: planti -stripr .:;.treet trees would be Spaced at 30e •- 401 is -,orvals. . The,Large iistingi fig tree would be kept;- tree .is on the outsidew"Of the fanner.. In a, discussion ®£ tb ;fence* At-vasno.ot that .the ;fence wi11. be " Hence most decorative and- trill -vat need::.epveriog. _1'�e abet- Sallan eugge putting larger trees in insert areasd n 7t was suggested zagnolia;trees,replaces :the .proposed.olive trees= Street trees trees. to be a5--gallon size. .. Street ;tree+-: to be .the ,same as now groriing an other side. of street. Mr.. Smith discussed the slopd ground covering and Slope area shrubs to be used to obtain a garden-like effect. He said the manaanita trees and fruit trees, w+ould be kept. Chairman Sargent referred to a deck area adjacent to sn, Matoirical Deck area marker. The applicant had planned to eliminate this £eatmrej but Chairman Sargent felt the marker was significant and therdevk might encourage people to come anti read Mhls :ar?:er. Mr. Newman notesA there would be a bench or two with trail leading to the marker, but the applicant dial not want to encourage groups to use this area as a picnic, It was agreed the applicant would work with Staff to redesign deck. Member Sallaa suggested 5-gallon plantings instead of 1- gallon size Frontage along frontage. plantings Lighting was discussed. Member Dressler felt there could be a LIGHTING safety factor involved with regard to access road and pedestrian ,)ath. v'�r ,.,, S�d dr `,", '}`'i �. .,{+e `� , •`7r_,. �'� s.� F ,d.x r y'4� `N ye�e s �'` P$rse - Chairmm Oargent asked if there were any comments from the widleaci. =tout §�; a`Aidgrb.Bta �ti0ta -< Sed <sA-was va�ay�pl +edt3a theme r��td�►��':tangy the�de�le:�e:tt9' � ::� �.. 1 sk il Public Hear P ber:_=3a1 :to: close, '1e ='� �.clo3etl 's�eai►in�6�-. . ;�� .. Notion carried, 4PO HC-51,309 a 1 Member Dressler moved to recommend to City Council approval a i appli— ¢p oVed w� s `Ha a l HCrSl,3ti9 asulai�est.to standwd A* tro3:conditia us-;In ,lf4ding . conditionsx y' `fbdtsr'A:6.B,• Bo-1,,B-Z,9_.B*3, B-4,, C, 0►1, and Do and the:additieaal encl"ed ZigWAg.plaw-as presented. Subject also°.to- the -following modlficatiosa ss 'additioats6 (1) A-ay air conditioning units be screened either behind ,fences or an the.:t -'9 pati.a-, (2) Public deck included in application be :codified to, a stand-up observation point to be aesthetically pleasing F to the historical wwker'.r (3) Selection ot atrear treAw species be left to the. 7City; Staff t:, reCot0GU&wttW the misimum size .of 15-8811on. (4) Perimeter Landscaping plan to be'modified .and devp1oped along w tht°the Howse'-Ruch .Parak;: t'ais to; by�regulated, by the City Staff. <5) Add taco- pole 'lights to.,the ,dope .property'la and near. the benches, to be placed in a posttion td ZttemPt .to ' prevent vandalise (6) Landscaping area outside fence along McClellan Road to incldde plantings spaced at` occasiona distances of heights of 5' and 61 to help break up fence line. (7) .all plants on McClellaiv Road frontage be. increased ;to 5-gallon size. (8) Compliment applicant-an- development and applicattioni- Member Sallan seconded the motion. Amendment Member Sallat. amended :.ae notion to incl-ide three conditions of approval as presented by the Staff. Member Keenitzer seconded the amendment. VOTE ON A2'►MIMME.aT AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan and Chairman Sargent cIOES: ?'lone Amendment passed, 4-0 VOTE ON MOTION At ES. Members Dresstei, Keenitzer, Sallan ,and Chai=an Sat; ant NOES: None Motion passed, 4-0 r 2a"WES OF THE'> *" r C isitx i Sira+miiL noil� dd this appiic"t this woUlif tii heard bet6re } City Ci c fil �� e.eli` , 1973. � y a I;a"scapftg ilint6i ,Itandg Avenue betty future Landscaping :extension of Forest v iue• iva`Greenled .me. plan for Eandley Ave. Staff member aawan e4l844ed tuts •awl°cation had no magier'bsicausa Staff report it is a quasi-ptiblir applicniF it. He explained tbat Hrr. 'ban Coleman had been hired to work on ,tine Crossroads Assessment District and the Core Area. T-his plan is assessment district; Mr. Dan Ccleian, Town and Country Ldne, Cupertino, the' d diseusared o Msentation :s presentation. The :ae iians vary from 4' to 15' wide. The narrow strip would be difficult to maintain; hence the use of simulated brick. This a ives a smooth serf ace. which, is much easier to clean end safer for people crossing. There id 'tobblestone around the planting area. ? lantings are mounded for variety. He described the wooden arbor as being 15' wide strips tunni.n$ Trellis 0e leagi:h of the walk with vines S-owing on it. Type of trellis, usq',*t artificial turf, substitution of land- Alternatives seas ii* for concretes use of cobblestone instead of simdlated discussed • brick and use of trees instead of junipers were dlisctfsee8. Mr. Coleman notez it would be difficult to maintain plants in thins narrow strip and the street would have to 'tee blocked off for '' safes of ma ir.tenance . men. He also said the State recommenn �d no trees Within 500 of curb. Chairman Sar, ent asked for comments from the audience. There were .none. Me ;ber Sallan. moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public !public Heart P-arings. closed :Member Koeaitxer moved to recommend approval of plans as prevented plans approve for Bandley Avenue. McQber Dressler seconded the ciotion. I1YBSa Members Dressler, Koenitxer, McLaren N0ESt Mlember Sallan and Chairman Sargent Motion passed, 3-•2 Chairaan Sar;ent noted this would be hearty before City Coun it on ;March 5, 1973. Y.G7S 1Ii$MS OF THE,IF Fad a .6 .. l:C-519230.9 £,,;3, ' gl tiara f *►31W2; _4� of Fe ;33 s a�cas F?d Super- representing PGd S.aperr}� se _ Sign market Ordinance to allow a ohopp9.ng center Gil U ar a Lai building located at the southwest corner of Homestead Read ` , saxatq -,S Vale, �90 apssoft4ate 300 feat we$t of 4ar - y el.e. Ro . Staff Report Staff member Cowan gave the background of this Sign applications noting it Er4u3.d require en, e c ti a. . He, also .pon d, out the .sign should emphasize.Center o iadv$dual b6si4 . w s Applicant Chairman Sargent asked if 10.26d been axplafned. to agp�licaAt•,' no aware of iien to cover exception"request was iacildd&'a Vic. Conan-laced the Section 1U,.2 applicant,caws ag ate of this.. conditions t4r.. Bob Ausman% I3�f3 O i,y Creek made San Jose, was. read Seetio� 10.2 for except and, 10.4 %Ich ,spelcified ander 'what conditions A AC"tdv'" '`' ' nve an tfon exception. Ifre 'Ausmaa said that Council had-reconunend4d 'that he file for an excer'.a�ia. Center 84r. Member :icL�ren ,ncc:d that.since the development will be called . not wanted Homestead Square:, .tliis should receive more. eacposure. 1'Jner; ' Market has identification already. Mr. Ausmaa said there, 4onld be no economic ,lraois for- the applicant to payfor a sign,that ,, featured the s-to,pping'cdriter. e ;aoted thai'ihd appl carii.rcally oul.y Vrznted PW sigu. Alternatives The alternatives for signing in this center s-0as discussed. Stet£°s offered recommaendition of either a.shopplTag center sign with the center being*featured, or a ground sign that 141 uld have to be re*aoyed if a Hor,:estead Square sign was latex desired was proposed id applicant. No series The core discussed situation and future impact of signing in of poles center. Their main concern was to see there would not be a series siyrs wanted of pole signs. Chair-man Sargent asked if there were any comments from the audience, There were none. ?u511.c Hear— Member Koenitzer x.nved, seconded by Member 2McLaren, to close Public Lags closed :iearinga. 'lotion carried, 5-0 HC--j1,230.8 hauber Sallau moved to recorrr.end that application HC-51,230.8 be D Iliad denied. Member ..'cLaren seconded the motion. AYES: Members Koenitzar, McLaren, Callan and Chairman Sargent ;tGwS: Member Dressler Notion passed, 4-1 D BR OF MC-75 s Pago 7 Chairman Sargent told the applicant it was his privilege to take ..,thlst back,tor Co ancil'on%tick;S, -MI. owner of the property aloo be present. 4. ¢licatie t�C 51,293 oUDItt-Cam reqibmsting tic-51,273.4 OXCOPtion"to� the Sign Ordinance to allow ast additional Ditz-Crone free-standInS subdivLalou sin for a townhouse develop- ment located at the southwest corner of Homestead Read '* Blaney AveeeQ. Staff member. Cowan,ex�,ela3ned there is cureently one doable faced Additi sign ou the Homesteae.. Read froutage of the property and this sign f" _ag app:ication would be for an additional subdivision sign to be ? "-; Freeway placed ,on the rear :►f the prop=i:z orientated to Route 40 Freeway, Mrs Cowan showed s3.id a of -si x and prVosqd, site of sign. The Negative staff udIgent is that promotional.siMi '.facing onto freeways impact have a aegative aesthetia impar.t on the City as a wtwle. Mr. Linger We Sib art, 1,330 "C" :av4ess Avenue, San lases,;;said ho Sign at umlerstood they could-have. -one double faced sign of 208' maximum mother site at the subdiv;6-;.ou. At prevent they only have 100' and would `now location like one of less tsan 100' at auoi;her location on sites, Nember McLarea said she felt the sign along the freeetay dould 'be &&ISISza would b a safety hazard and that the lity would then, be stumped with d a safety requests for this type of identification. Becauso of elevation, hazard there is ample exposure from the freeway. Chairman Sargent asked if there were any c:o=euts from roe audience. There were none, Member Sallan moved, seconded by Member 74enitZeL. to Close Public Public Leari Hearings. closet Hamber McLaren moved to recommend to City Council that applicattionr HC-51,' :f3,4 11C-519273.4 be denied. Seconded by Hember Sallan. denied AYES: Nambers Dressler, Koenitzer, *,cLaren, Sallan and Chairman_ Sargent NOESs None Notion passed,, 5-0 The applicant was uotiiied this would be heard beforo the City Council on March 5, 1973. • F EgXt 4 HC-75 ' H OF THE= ' F � I t k� Page g " Recess Chia •gain;hared Then utmr g� at 10 s 15 PH. s HC-51.259.7 S. Application RC-51,259.7 of Edwina J. Myers requesting spproval -Aeuma Restau of,mod fficat on<of rc o4wing 1OC40A at raft. . the northeast .core-of Partt+a& Awnue Sad; gteveus Creek Bouie.%Mrd-ig toe Portal :plate $h"ping 6eetter. Staff report Staff member Cowan showed slides of the .Ce=er,. Tba ,ai.r conditibeing screen and sign program for Center are of concern. As the tenants changer, the signs .gill be replaced to conform with: px*#osed-o#Ae and style Landscaping.-will be upgraded whew future building is c pstructed. Suffering The buffering planting is rear-of building vas-discussed. : Entire wall; Mr. Edwin J. Meyer, 10601 So. Highway 99 Cupertino, answered Chalzman screened Savgent's question by sayiurt,Aere was an error in the;dlr .Rg,,k it was -f ntended,to screen; entire Mall, Improvement Chair4an Sargeat comLienteta ^:hat .definite improvement was needed In neede;i the Shopping ceutelq. This.:gas an unimaginative.offgrt,A, ,it µkr-lcked up the Mall around development witb nothing breath *t,,jjozi zeptrythe Sign Character Mr. Meyer noted it was difficult to change character of building that change already. exists. New sLan3 In discussing the sign program, bir. Heyer said signs.would not.,be; changed until the tenants' I,c•94 expire at a new tenant ,moves An. The standard size will be similar to the proposed Aiuma sign. Upgrade ,:ember Sallan questioned Mr. Meyer regarding the lands,capiag. He maintenance said when the 10,000' additional construction wag done, landseapie for the site would be done. Hember Sallan not�.d existing landscaping maintenance needs upgrading. Comments from the audieuce were invited. There were none, . Public Rear_ Berber Dreseler, seconded by Member McLaren, moved to close rubl.ic iner closed Herrings. FC-510759.7 :ember Sallan moved to recommend approval to City Council of appLL- aporoved ta/ cation RC-511259.7 with standard H-Control conditions, bearing its conditions miinrl this approval is for site, architecture and suns; landscaping to come before cou,mittee at future time. la addition, it is under- stood that roof treatment be continued to the rear of proposed screened area. This includes Exhibit A )Ft Revision. Seconded by Menber Z:cLaren. Or i W �N y+t 1' .^n.t+s2'N: h "' q $ } #i YF b♦ }' 75 YV "21 "'g97 »Qt1 page =9 AM ' Members Dressler, Koenitzer '* -Ln �e'83an NOO: Chairman Sargent c° Notion pP aed 4-1 � a Cha3rcrea Sargent informed ',�.x. 'Meyer this Mould be heard by City Cov cif tin Itircli S. 103. b. Application RCS-510075.29 of Ehrlich, Heft and Rominges HG51,075.29 represetjCijg liawlett-Facitard.requestiuS approval of - Hewlett- landscaoing, lfghtiag .add signin$ for addition to Packard axisting building located at 11000 Wolfe Road. Staff Member Cowan shoved slides of. ,site and p roposed landscaping Staff report glace. The Isndccapiing' plan will covatinue the=`existingpro ;Yana ' The existing grove ot;trees will be retained and used by employees ace lunch facility. The lighting will .lea match exf sting 'ones. Mr. Coc�•an showed slides o£ the proposal sign sited *ir.' Jack R.' Rominger, 2470 El Camino, Palo Altos was asked=about Racks might the blue canvas coverings for the bicycle shelters. He•seid'h6 kbe too costl_ final choice had been maple as to color. He also said if the bids were' too high,, these might not be put in: Member Koenitzer commented some kind of racks should be provided # Some type of for the 80 employees it was estimated"rode' bicycles.to w6ik.s racks provid Mr. '_Michael Painter, SE2 mission Street, San Francisco", aiiswe"red ?Member Sallan'that Sequoia trees and Japanese privet would be'' use& in centef strip between parked cars. Member Sallan questioned havia- an all grass area in area where + Planting in sign will be removed and suggested some planting be"included'. q grass area Mr. Painter said try traffic was very heavy at this junction maximum visibility wos desired. After a brief discussion, Chai--xan Sargent :?.sked for comments from the audience. There were axone. u :Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member rMcLaren, that Public 9Public Heari Hearings be closed. closed r. Member Koenitzer moved to reconnand approval to City Council of �iHC-51,075.2) application HC-51,075.29 with standard H-Control conditions, approved w/ 'r.xhibits 3, C, C-1, D and F and the following condition: conditions (1) That the bicycle rack coverings be a neutral color to blend with buildings and landscaping. Seconded by Member McLaren. 2 ° EfC-7S XMM OF THl.i ?k-A� page ,• AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Mcbaren, Salla+n and Srgent y NOES: Mons Motion passed, 5-0 "',e applicant was notified this would comd before the City Council 'arch 5, 1973. HC-5s,O02.5 7. Application HC-51,0O2,S of T. Zu6iycky and Sons requesting T. Zubrycky approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading and undergr,ounding of utilities fora triplex in Tract 2769, Lot 47, La Cresta Subdivision, Alpine Drive. Staff report Staff member Cowan called the committee's attention to the fact that the code •calls for 24' setbacks at the back of the driveway fit,;the curb-side„ and the plans call .for only 20' e• He also discusse,4,the previously noted intrusion of privacy on single-family lots to-the north, and suggested the use of solid railings on- second-story terraces." He then showed slides of -the area, site and proposed triplex. Mr. William Dean, 900 San Antonio Road, Los Altos, -signed into answer questions. GRADING � Chairman SaxSent noted the differential of street elevation to.the pad of the improvement and suggested a possible solution would be to drop building. =r. Dean said the buildings had been ,lowered as much as possible. If they were lowered any more there, would, have to be a large retaining wall on right side. There is already a 3' retaining w-111 now and woull-i-ave-to $e a V masonry wall, disturb- ing fence,_posts and existing retaining wall on left side would be made obsolete. Traffic flow° The widening of the driveway was discussed and possible traffic flow problem problem of parked cars. ARCHITECTURE In answer to Member XcLaren, 11r. Dean said the roof is concrete "S" tile, building is off white Spanish stucco with earth tone trims, and wrought iron railings. Solid rail- . Member Koenitaer called 2ir. Dean's attention to Staff's recommendation izgs of solid railings and Chairman Sargent explained the reason for this condition. ARCHITDCTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE MINUTES 2 of 12 O1/03/1973 - 12/19/1974 .£,.. Inth= OF .. - ,. •, 'a ._ .�.i.a ... .,- ..,. - ✓. :,is .`uw.c.; 't ? . ia,P :xs.J?;-..'» 1t' et a . It w <Yeq t::d,that tall tied* be ga''anted`atang rear �ADU3SCAL'ItQG line; Staff to notify what size =fir xt 44rr:,tOaau ,citmmaeted' a f' owner did not want trees that would block the vier from the bolcont. �z - � at., 1 „- ' ti>. +ram.a. a`I Member SaIlIgn a ressad--ber donceftr* ar so ffimch conctete d')so More greener little greenery. Add about seven more plantings creating att l:llu-� needed sion elf a'16t "of' landscaping. In the little areas on either We of Ariveway ,again:Bt gara3es put an Italian CyprOss. Chairman Sargent asked °or'comments` from, the audience. Mr. Daniel Weinstein, 10370 Vista Knoll-Blvd.,-Cupertino; said General plan that nothing has happened on previous application although appli- for whole cant had pleaded immediatd building was necessary. He said the -area Mayor had instructed Mr. Sisk that all deliberate speed for a general plan for all lots on Alpine Drive be made. There should be some general plan for all lots as to what is acceptable acid what is not, Bdl.conies should be confined to the front of the building; turning entire house around solower portion faces rear-were two suggestionb. Air. Weinstein suggested that Elannin? Commission; developer, OtMer and neighbors get together and work something out for whole area. :. Member : cLaren ascertained there are approximately 5 to 7 lots running back of the lots on Vista Knoll. Mr. Cowan noted that Staff has been working overtime and it Mould A mattar of be a matter of priozity' of spending more time as planning-or: priority ordinances. Member McLaren wondered if Council would- want to create emergency status €or this ordinance, Mr. Ron Schwartz, 10347 Vista Knoll, Cupertino, said that slides Intrusion of did not show property below this development. He said these privacy tenants would be looki-!g into family room, living room and bedroom windows. He wanted planning for development of Alpine Drive proceed as indicated. Member �'cLaren asked if Staff had,received ary written notices crow Untenable these owners protesting these developments. She also said if position Council had directed a study be rude, ASAC was put in untenab16 position. 11r. Cowan noted Staff had not had time to make research necessary Research to speak to this problem. Also there was no way of prohibiting necessary application for developing of lot. Council will have to determine priority. A OIC-75 rely Page[*iT Lots zoned Member Koenitzer noted that existing apartments have balconies ani for is rlstl- *,a,. $..the- Aeis rr1 +, s Ievtic� Wives;btu a l e dwellings �;Aletez ;to, reai Mr. Dave McKell, 10367 vista Kaoll, Cupertino, -spoke to the intrusion of his :privaciy from a ar6tu®nos t :fee€r e8r.of his bye. Builder want Mr. Z6biryckyj 14122 Skully lead,, S'14._Jose; a►gced the exist#tg zoning decision laws. Expressed unveil:7lingness;tot;4aithfor-�$eaaral plan,,. r4,so.noted that the lots to rear were terraced and they were looking down. into back yard,of :tire#:: neighbors iie.,$ffea-ed to .compromise,in-balcony structure and planting of trees, but would like decision based on existingf.laws- and zones Public Hear After €urther discussion,11ember MgLaren Loved to close Public , ings closed Hearings. 11'ember-Koeni.tzer, seconded the motion. Summary Chairman, Sargent, summarized that -this,, a a problem where home.,cscaaers have been asking -for a study.>to have something worked out. Eie committee; could approve the: application and send it to the.,Cq�patcil :and let the Council make:.the'dects*on as ,fo whether the perm,t;would be -issued;. or ASAC,could 4eny,,applica449a because they feel ,;there are some problems; or ASAC could c4nt$nue application in hopes . something can be done. Nothing The general consensus of,ths.,ctommitt.:a was that previous application accomplished had been approved with less setback, added c,.)ndition of solid balcony by delay and planting against fence; asd-there had'been no new evidences one member felt if a: person, wished�to develop, he should be free to do so although. he agreed with beth:,parti.es,; ;apd that the best th-s to do would be to send it on to ,Council $iace a delay would accomplish nothing. .Situation Member Sall.an wished the minutes to indicate ASAC would like;,to see resolved this situation resolved, IiC-51,002.5 Member Sallan recommended approval of application HC-51,002,5 with Zublycky'& standard H-Control conditions and attached enclosures Exhibits A, C Sons - and D with-the following additional conditions: approved w/ conditions (1) Balcony railings be of solid material. (2) Relative to landscape plan, boundary of property contain a substitution of 13 trees to be position the same as those on the landscaping plan; that these plantings b.t 10' high at time of planting, types of tree to be determined with City Staff recommendation. (3) Relative to the front of property: a. Place extra star jasmine in front of triangular planter on either side of property; this being a minimum of 4 extra plantings on each triangular. :,.. Age 13 b. In th% center planter. increase planting c., of tits: r r* AaVW— AyP4 Pa A*_ e4,RUi,-Ath City St2rf;:. _.,( ) l'hat ,the;;gxt�litcfox �>o3ecx be Ito tl .apeciiicatfoa�s of City Engineeve. Member NcLaren seconded Cho• ;motiom. AYES.: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, McLaren, Sallan "and Chairman Sargept NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 A Minute Order was made to recommend that City Councii-d4*c;.t Minute Order City Staff at soonest possible time to make any„changes in the multifamily ordinance: to reflect concern. of visual privacy at rc.r of property. ChaltmA� Sargent noted this would be heard by City Councilson March 5, '1973, 8. Application HC=53,146 2 of Hank A. InthouW (96b estead HC-51,146.2 Realty) requesting approval of a sign plan for a commer- `' Homestead cial building located on the swath side ot"Hamestead Realty Road and easterly'-, of Foothill ftftesswiy. - Staff member Cowan said there vas a mixture of signs on buildingStaff report -involved. There is a treM..to.more'rectangular signs. Mr, Cowan noted there is no standard sign program for the Center other than 2' height and the cabinet being gold rimmed. Chairman Sargent asked for comments from the audience. There were none Member McLaren moved to close Public Hearings. Member Sallan Public Hearin seconded the motion. closed Member McLaren moved to approve application HC-51,146.2 subject to KC-51,146.2 standard H-Control conditions and exhibits F, F-1 and F-2. Member approved Dressler seconded the motion. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, McLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOES: None Motion passed, 5-0 ak`�ice, � � 0 qa 'm s ,x '= i 'y2?' • ease , 14 " HC-51,075.5 9. Applicatioa BC-41;675.5 VVV14play Techniilogy Corporation relrosedp'aig's'eats '" bulk Rand--do requesting approval df ,:a 'sf'gn 0166' ftOr,.a 66Ws r l- Wilding located at the ioAYv&st corner"bf* VAfalo ° hd�St zi!i' #reek` ulevArd. Staff repor ' Staff Member Cowan reported this ,application cored the icstallation of an automatic electr3 tally cottiolled` Yreaderboard signs on tho`r gascoline.pump of the Sears TBA •facility. The ezistin$ price sign would have do .be r"ioved. etie showed slides of t3ie s+tc and °pry posed location of sign. Also existing «price'siiati filch will have to be eliminated to confn-m to ordinance. ?resentatio Mr. Ross Aiken of Display Technology Corporation then explained the proposed system, its uses and described its appearance. He said it looks much like a readeiboardC but t ll.`be r #late contralied There is no glare. He also'discussed hots :it worUd, having d•' -' special coding ' rohib;t someone else from " P g to P ang�messabz, :.:, Frequen- In discussing frequency of message change, Mr. Aikeu said some of change communities allow, six changes- a day,: but-,in practice,,, they ark not changed very often. He said the change is so fast it is not very noticable. Hember Sallan said she would like to see a sample. Alternates iir; Robert ^ierney, 10331 Bubb Road, CupertSao, .gh9wgd slides uses of the equipment in use in other areas. . Se. a.l e. said-.she sign would basically be programed to show tires, batteries and accessories. He also 'suggested it could be used to advertise cgmnuuity affairs, safety progra=s, and reminders during the holism season to drive carefully. Permanent &fter discussion, Cha-rman Sargent sub est�-.d a permanent type price sign price sign structure be brought for approval, noting it should be comparable to architecture of Sears. it was to be understood that approval for price signing would not be given until permanent structure was presented. Comments from the audience was then requested. There were none. Public Hear-' Member Koenitaer coved, seconded by ciember Sall-an, to close Public injs closet: Hearings. Motion carried, 5-0 HC-.=.1,073.5 Member Sallan moved to recommend approval of .pnliration IIC-51,075.5 approved subject to standard H-Control conditions, including Exhibits F and F-lg W11condition and~ the following conditions: W a - „� KC ' Page 15 (1) Price,sign currently existing is to come dam and be replaced with permanent structiwze that should L_ .efare this committee for revi r. (2) unposed sign to be installed not to be changed in excess of six times a day. (3) Sign will be blacked out during change of message, (4) Sign to be dimmed appropriately at night so as ,not to cause any visual intrusion. Member McLaren seconded the motion. • AYES: Members Dressler, 'McLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOES: member Koenitzer Motion passed, 4--1. The applicant was notified of the approval and that this would be heard before City Council on .larch 5, 1973. UNFINISHED BUSINESS 11r. Cowan reported a representative from HoHo Restaurant was present ° RoHo and would like to discuss a sign with the committee. restaurant • Mr. Paul Young, 10895 S. Blaney Avenue, Cupertino, showed a copy ' Prese'ntati:o of the sign now hanging above restaurant. He said he was omen for any recommendation from the committee. Aftev a brief discussion, the committee approved a sign for t Approved. "HoHo 'estaurant” with black letters on a white background. AYES: Ne=be_s 'Dressler, Koenitzer, McLaren, S•allan and Chairman Sargent NOES: None Motioned passed,5-0 A tentative date of March 13, 1973 was set for a special meeting. 44Special i.ae ing 3/13/73 ADJOUILIZIENT Member !1cLaren moved for adjournment at 12:40 PM. Hember Koenitzer Adjournment seconded tht, motion. :lotion passed unanimously. ATTEST: APPROVED: --1 ® {.ty Clerk Chairm~ gg*} CITY UY CUPERT ,. .._ � _ fig'} � 76 ;'i y';'$ *.RS 10300 'Torre Avenue, Ce:pettliao ge I Telephone: 252-4505 AmiLt MizaTTES OF Tim GULP TING OF. .THE ARCHTTEM TG,RAL 51TE AvP*W &'f:O2 EE':Old CAI 7,` 19,13 II1 TI?S CO tdCI1. Yt, �t -xT�`.HAt.Ye;' G`R!I",'�YtTTNO, �FiI:tFC4PtY?s . S SLLPTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was called to order at 7:32 PM by Chairman Sargent with the Salute to the Flag: ROLL CALL Members present: Dre'ssl2r, Koenitzer (7:45) , }•McLaren -and Chairman -Sargent Members absents Sallan Staff present:` Associate -fanner 8obeit°`Cow'an Senior Planning Technician Toby Kramer Recorair_g Secretary Ruth Cox Chairman Sargent announced with regret the passing of Mr. Jim Small on ''March 6, 1973, noting he had served the City of Cupertivid as a member o= the Planning Commission from April 1960 to April 1964; on the Architectural' and Site 'Approval,'oval' G ittee gto%-JWe 1965to June 1967 and June 1968 to April I tadtrierit `off' silence was then observed in Mr. Small's memory. MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS WETING Approval of Architectural and Site Approval Mint!tes of February' 22°, a ki.nutes of 1973. ;Vebruary 21, 1973'approved Member McLareu moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to approve' the ' as presented minutes as presented. Motion carried, 4-0 POSTPONEUENTS None 14RITTEN COnWICATIONS None ORAL CONIHUN ICAT TONS None y} KC-76 MIMES OF THS MARCH 7, .1973 B-CONT20L MEETING Page 2 PUBLIC HEARIN S HC-51,075.1 1. Application HC-51,075.13 of Vallco Park, Ltd.',,re, e t y Hilton apgtoval o£ 4-t�04ifi�at3 iES.mod asacehitect agal Hotel ' • connection with 6e Hilton Hotel loc. ted at the southeast, corner of Wolfe Road and Pruneridge Avenue. Staff Staff member Cowan said the scope of this application was limited 'to Report architecture, site and conceptual grading; the reason for e' uinating precise landscaping, lighting and grading for the preseht -t, + ;tlie complexity and- size of the project. Ramp Mr. Cowan then pointed out differences in site plan and use -"permit entrance site plan. The most significantchange.be1-ng--.the--addition of a disrupts ramped entrance into the main lobby. The addition of the ra9pad. ,.. traffic entrance would disrupt the approved traffic flow by creating a f flow hazard between automobi?es entering the site from Prunexic,ge . Avenue and the cross-traffic between the parking lot in front of1 the portico and the restaurant .lot- to the ws�, i-_However, a ,reviagd circulation plan for the Pruneridge Avenue entrance had been approved by. the Engineering Department and the applicant. Office Mr. Cowan also pointed out there are two office structures on the buildings same site for which parking, and circulation system was provided OR site. µ^ Signal In answer to A embsit, eu,.=l r4,e Gowa>i said there._g9uld he.sigaa3.4za�- tion to elim nate`fiazard at turn traueling`taest on Pruneridge Av,4j.pue. Portico Chairman questioned Sargent if there would g q be a barrier to prevent traffic left turns. Mr. Cowan said the Traffic Engineer had final plans one-way for median, but the ingress-would be chanelliged,. He noted .$t : would be awkward for those traveling west on Pruneridge Avenue to enter coffee shop as traffic is one way through portico. Top floors Mr. Walter Ward, General Manager of Vallco Park, said the main flared out difference from first architecture submitted was the 102 rooms is lanai. He explained with the freeway 15' high on off ramp, the lanai addition gave privacy to the pool. Numerous market studies and consultants felt public areas should be larger so the banquet room was enlarged. The top floors are flared to give more eloquent lines. Traffic Mr. Ward also said the Traffic consultant would determine ingress patterns and egress. Present speed is 40 mph. No access from Wolfe Road; discussed moved east to two present points to allow room for turn movements., Free turn movement prohibited by traffic light. There will be turn lane in middle of Pruneridge Avenue. 11r. Ward said there.is more traffic now in business buildings and painted traffic lamas now handle traffic movement. Towers Mr. Ward explained plans for elevator shaft towers. . ._ 1 La NOI iTTFS OF THE MACH 7, 19. ' V 3, is :4'a r Kr.-Ward ,then used schematic ,of the iffereat facilities,' ' _,baUw,=';t* bye;ogeo};em Oeri .f east side -fora garden area,#n 7aAhdt % ;The.1'evelnAAre zeroj,„plus .; 10 and minus 10. He explained people sing wA1.1 be.:: ,Vjng through lobby. * Guests registering In the lobby are separated from guests using the dining room, -Meeting room and other--like facilities. In answer to Member Dressler, Mr. Ward cxplainea the elevator towers will. number 6, 3 is the Initial phase. Slides were then shown of the lanai structure, pool, lobby 'Slides and entrance, coffee shop_and parking area, ramp:and portico; garden drawings area between parking and building. An artist's conception for pool exhibited area from the hotel, showing cabanas on inside and,baicones eon other two floors. Other views including west elevation from Wolfe Road looking easterly showing coffee shop-and..dining area;iz,westl elevation of lanai unit; Aarth elevation-from,Pruneridge Ave oe. showing parking lot and towers 11 east`elevation view-fraao-the!two_ existing buildings showing public areas -and parking areas; south elevation going .by 280 from:,ramp; -and;rtwo !crops seebio� of elevations were shown., It was noted there would be paxkiug on_He�i2 tt-1'ac1*.ard prsoperty Yarkiug for coffee shop,and public area: a . _ Mr. Ward explained how food iwoold be h=41ed:from=rt 41cit heu_„ good handling area to dining and banquet areas. Member Dressler questioned the.tunnel -proposed for.patzons,71vom Tunnel parking lot to ballroom area. Mr. Ward said the tunnel,va*U'.be - entrance 10' wide and 90' long with showcases for shops, well lig`-ted and with interesting displays. _ Mr. Ward said all food would be received at a central receiving Central area which will be screened,enclosed and well landscaped. In this receiving same area there will be a driveway to service :ballroom -..for ambits area of cars, boats, etc. There will be two rows of trees and heavily. landscaped. Mr. Maurice Johns, 105 Town and Count?,y, Orange, California, Service area Swan and Gesler, Architects, spoke to. the .service area, saying the adequately elevation of service driveway going down into service area was concealed quite concealed. The trash area was included here also and every precaution would be taken to adequately conceal this service area. Chairman Sargent said he was concerned about trucks required to Two rows of service this type of facility. Mr. Johns said two rows' of l'iand- andscaping ® scaping would be adequate especially since the trees had been plaited inadequate six years ago. However, since Chairman Sargent did not feel these 0 M-76 KLt$t3 s OF THE MRCS l-.Y10,73 Page 4 would be adequate, Mr. Johns suggested a fence but noted this would entaf`1-e14mft'dtfdg some parting spaces, 'in resp6ase to''OhAlrbani- Sargent!'d request, Mr. Johns said there wad •d-long-way to"go ire he watild:have working -dra4iaags, but special emphAsis would be placed on 3aliftdaeing this problem. Floor Mr. Johns then described in 'detall some of the "areas, and the used layout planned for the different facilities. He also gave a floor layout of the hotel rooms, saying there are 28 rooms on a typical floor. Outside In answer to ;`ember McLaren, he said all rooms with the exception views of one row on ` one floor had outside views. Perimeter Member Koenitzer inquired of plane for extending perimeter road -.. , road around lanai area. Mr. Johns said the road-would :come clear around site and wouldbe completed in this phase. Traffic When Member ficLaren asked then the traffic signal would be installed, signal lair. Johns. said it Mould be up to the Public Wor'=,s Department ,nodng Hewlett Packard and hotel would have to caopea4_e. Wind impact Member Keen tzar questioned eifect _of breezes around pool aide,,- being deflected by the buildings. After a discussion o€ thls->as a potential problem, Mr. Bill Tagg, 619 Torrington Drive, Sunnyvale, said most-prevailing air- would be from the north and 'would be: =' shielded by tower and lanai. Mr. Ward -noted'eabanas would a1Wo .,1 provide a shield. The committee requested that possible air turbulence around'=buildizag be considered in then final plans: Slides Chairman Sargent then asked if the committee had any specific questions regarding architecture. Member HeLaren requested gb'-'l'` see .slides. Texture and Mr. Johns showed slides of planned construction, noting 90%-of the color structure will be medium textured concrete. The colors will match as closely as possible the buildings already under construction. .- Reflective Mr. Johns -pointed out areas of reflective glass panes. These panes glass have a s to l slope which will cut down solar heat coming into , building on the north side. The glass is bronze color of rectangular shape. Reflection It 'was questioned whether morning or late afternoon sun would be reflected back on streets or into neighboring area. Mr. Johns said this wou" probably be true if the glass were flat, but being on a 1 to 1 slope would reflect up. Early In i .;spouse to comments from Member Koenitzer, Mr. Johns said the morning glass had been designed on the basis that only reflection would :be so early in the morning that it would not be a problem.. e r P►f the bevel or the . ?aaA= tt 14r.� Johns nlso;said%that.. . gip protection of the elava4t ox this would be- no-pr043, . Member Mcl..areu.zsked If studles:-had been made,.of possibly Im act of tLe$lection reflection on .&e streets. Fla. Tagg said the only pr6bl might be l ct in the morning- during She summe;z time; otherwise, sun would bye:.xe flected up. Member Soenitzer asked for assurance of studies on this.refleation; Study of as a sudden flash of light could be distracting to drivers. Mr-, _, reflection Johns said a study had been made. The panes recessed into tower impact could be reflected but was only exposed for a short time In answer to Chairman Sargent's inquiry as to how this glass would Cleaning of be cleaned, Mr: .Johns said tbdLs problem was under advisement wand glpes there was no answer at this tine. It was noted the landscape architect was local to the area .and= Landscape would be using same type'df lscaping as now being used in Vallco park, Member Dressler asked about,bazday -rails. Mr. Johns -said .the $alconier. balcony rails would be textured concrete of horizontal spandrel. Balconies are 3' deep so no furniture can be put on them but would allow the windows to be cleamed from cautside. They will be "observation" balconies rather than "sit-on" balconies::: Member Koenitzer asked for'"somie general idea of what sign plan is 'Sign plan intended. Mr. Johns said it mmuld be the Hilton sign on one elevator towerof the stylized It logo; minimal signing in good- taste. Member McLaren asked about pans for concealing air conditioning fiiechanical equipment. Mr. Johns said aU mechanical apparatus would be ;apparatus concealed an lower level. Kmiber Dressidr questioned noise level. Mr. Johns said there would -be noise to a degree, but the equipment would all be encased inside building. Member McLaren then asked ab u. t TV antennas. Hr. Johns said if TV antennas Cable TV was available in the area this would be used. There would be a single antenna built Into structure hidden from view, usually behind elevator towers. Member Dressler had further questions regarding the tunnel. Mr. Tunnel Ward added the information mat the tunne: .,as a skylight opening enlargement next to driveway that will let d.ylight in. He also described plans for enlarging showroom area between tunnel and ballroom. There will be recessed re••eals for displays which will make tunnel attractive. a CR;zq HC-76 1UNUTES OF THE MARCH 4 -1413 H- TROY. M TI Z, w; Jr,t"' Page 6 Working Hoc..° va�d n6i6i that i,f these re esetatagisv dray ii gs r ief�r Cory, drawings working d�Ltt&��abUld �be ptasente6 �at a 1i tard dam." Perimeter ; vheirman .5'argeut expressed'his.' evaierd over $cree;e�tng ot..ceYs R£r land;acaping Wolfe ltodh'!6,affic. He-;advised 'tbie appli.cant tbat lands ing `dhould on Wolfe be 'heavy `along Wolfe Road' with three landscape barriers-between Road traffic and delivery area. Chz irman Sargent•asked for comments from the audience. .Thare .were" none. Public Hear Member Koenktzer moved, 'se%onded by Member Mc;Laren, to close Public ings closed . Hearings. HC-51,075.1.3, Member :McLaren moved'to recommend :to the City Council 'approval-of., approved w/ application HC-51,075.13, Vallco Park3Hilton Inc,.-subject to HqCdntrol conditions $ standard conditions, enclosures consisting of Exhibits A, A lst Revision, B, B-1, B-2,_B-3r_,A-4. Ict ormati.o al Empb;_sis to be-stressed on the truck,entry and visual,;itopantr Ircm,1-:, Wol:e Road of trucks entering and existing; check wind.PraVlsms>i :ay around pool area; possibility of -:nlarging showroom at entrance to ballroom-,as_.explained ,most-destirab-le if ;feasible, . :Seconded.�by- Member Dressler, AYES: Hembers..Dressler, Ito" ttzer, McLaren and :Chairman Sargent NOES: None' Piotion passed, 4-0 Chairman Sargent told applicant ;this would be heard before the,- +' City Council at their next regular meeting on March 19, 1973., , KC-51,309.1 2. Application SC-51,309.'1 of Mackay Homes, Division,.Qi Kaiser Mackay Homes Aetna, requesting exception to the Sign Ordinance:tQ al,l a tree-standing subdivision stgn for a townhouse. develop- ment located adjacent to anO westerly of McC-.ellan Road approximately 250 feet westerly of the intersection of Byrne Avenue. Member Member McLaren said she would abstain from discussion of this appli- McLaren cation as she was representing both buyer and seller. abstains Staff re- Mr. Cowan said an exception was filed because ( rdinance #353 Section port ('15.1 requires at least 50 dwelling units for a sign for a Planned Development. This complex :has only 28 units but identification is .needed because it is an enclosed cluster. The identificationsign is necessary as a public service to help dixect .people'looking U: r the development. '�' �' '`'a� `t�` '� � " �".S ram* �;,`i�s ��'Y�- . • ' MOTES OF THE *IARCH � '.1973 8_- .4i tTud " " �$ gC-7 6 . Page 7 The low profile Park Villa s '£" p sign' will d zect` ►e®pie into ar 41, where they can then find the appropriate court. Slides of site piss wer ,sh lax. Cowan said the sib �ai11 roan Slides parallel to McClellan Itoa out of public right of slay on private property. Mr. Gowan pointed out these street addresses art in clUsteraand' Numbers not normal street numbers cannot be seen. seen Mr. Leonard Neuman, Mackay Homes, Menlo Park, said the sign on corner Sign. at at present does not show adequately. Sign will be placed at 45° angle angle across corner. He said the sign is heavy redwood timbers with raised petters of gold leaf. Air. Newman said the sign is to identify community and is' for the Interior good of the residents. Entrance signs show same motif as outside. signs He then pointed out Jpcations of interior signa, on the site plan. Approximate.lyr size of proposed sign_is,,32" in. Slight and 7' long' ,` Permanent with 8' in lettering space. Intended as a germ$neat sign. sign It was noted in, viewing slides t'iere are two' signs on Westmont. � Two signs Chairman Sargent then asked for comments from the audieace., ` Theie' were none. Member Dressler moved .to close Public Hearings.: . PemberrRoeairttzer„ Public hear- seconded the motion, lAgs closed Chairman Sargent summarized that sign ordinance requires- ASAC_to ,. - Summary refer to specific items in a request for a sI& exceptlau tc tie " granted. If this exception were not granted, applicant could claim a hardship. Intent of sign o-rdinance wouldnot be defeated by granting this exception. on the basis of these facts, the exception could be granted. # Member Dressler movel to recommend cc City Council aa4pti6n`of IIC-SI, 3a.' application H"-51.309.1 ae an exception to the Sign Ordinance as Exception presented by Exhibits F and F-1. Exception to be granted in that granted signing of the residential community would be of service to the residents and that signing of the development is tantamount to the naming of a major apart-ant complex. The intent of the motion is to include standard H-Cvntrnl conditions. Seconded by Member Koenitznr. T v1 4 Hy r X� R -75 x M1M€J1�ES OF THE FUKCH 70 1973 �i:QQ9.4TRtSL %i G AYES: Ifembe;s Dresslrv, Koe4tzer and Chq*=-,an Sargent NOES: one p i' ABSTAlti s Member HcLaiefi w , Chairman Sargent notified the applicant that the exception has been recommended for approval before Citji'Couiioil of iirch 19 1973 and he recommended the applicant be present a`t tla"t meeting. HC-51,285.2 3. Application HC-51,285,2 of' Pettibone'Signs (Family Homes- Lytle) requesting approval of a"sign plan for a`coomereiai building located at the southwest carrier or 1-irwin Lane and SaratRga-Sunnyvale Road.. Staff report Mr. -,,owan Wd_the.air slication was" for one additional sign on American Realty C flice.`He ki called" a sigtii pi:an was Approved for center for seven signs, to be located in f ent of entrances of shops. A previoud=applieation fora a mod�tficatian which would move one sign to rear oa structurt to so+uth side was granted and applicant requesting, site plan be :codified for. one additional sign. Sign would confoern wit. sign. prngreb established and area requirements for store. Complex look Member Mctaren noted obb had'Teen` to the opening bf tEie complex outstanding and thought everything looked outstanding. Balance Mr. Cowan comm"ented the additional s41 'vrbrtrld' balance d1stribatioin' of signs on the building Parallel sign ChairT.ari ,5argent said he, noticed a peobierri in ,seeing sign parallel sign hard to to the street. see After a brief discussion among the committee members, Chairman Sargent asked if `there were any comments from the audience. 'There were none. Public Bear- Member ':cLaren moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public ings closed Bearings. Motion passed, 4--o aC-51,2£5.2 Member McLaritn recotrmended to City Council appli.caLion HC-51,285.2 approved for approval subject to Enclosures F and standard H-Control conditions. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. e RR 1pll_ f k:`. `f 4 .+x✓$ 3hx,'SY .` ".I IiT'IRS OF THE 2 AHC i 7,, 1973 H-CG%inoL I TING AC,=76 AYES: U mhett Dressler, Koeni-tzer-, ftd&®ren, aut Ch4rwa NOES: Man& Motion passed r 4-70 This application to be heard 'before City Council on March, 19, 1973 and applicant would be present At. that time to answer;, p questions.. 4. Application HC-51,216.2 of Golden West Sign Company HC-51,216,2 (Villa Serra Apartments) requesting approval of. a Villa Serra sign plan for an apartment complex located' at,, the, Apartments southeast corner of StellIng Roar and Homestead load;_ The: applicant was not. in .the .audience.. Member McLaren .ask44�,lf : %,. Ar,,licant not this could be heard through 'the, Staff. Sli3e- of Otte and ;sign present were shovers. Member Koenitzer said he objected: to size, .and he ght;.: Sigsris Size objected 11'9" in height, double faced and internally illuminated. It to is 24 sq. Ft., on reach side w4i.cll .is .wit1du :the ,25 r4 ft. lim#;tsi, Mr. Cavan,reported flags on poles are attU- standing and .tow :need Flags taken to:be takee:down. Mr. Cowan aoidY the sib, n showing AS A dmTd temporary-one put up.:when fac;Uity va,4 built; several. :yea s.;ago.;,. After a general discussion it was the committee's feelings that Desired sign the -sign shca ad 'be reduced to scale by lf5;and':somethiug; of- low features profile. 11ember Koenitzer noted 91gns on both.entry ways. Two signs Chairman Sargent suggeste2 continuing application with indication Summary of concern about it being a: duplicatioc:. Also,than the:com:aittee % would prefer to see something of a smaller, nature mounted oit brick work to snatch wall. Manlier Koenitzer recommended to continue HC-51,216.2 to next HC-51,216.2 regular meeting. Seconded by ::ember .-IcLaren. continued AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, IcLaren and Chairman Sargent NOES: None notion, ca.-.ied, 4-0 a F -76 �?MtwTK$ OF Tor 11aCH 79 r3.073 H-tc Page 10 Lighting &P4r. Cowan then showed transparencies of proposed lighting plan For the suggestion northwdot *aardnt. He also asked' the= cooiiittee> fare bone kind isign. ",criteria. He said Staff had met with Mr. John Soy4$ architect hired. Eby the Saich family, and these illustrations were hi& recommed�ai o�ao The standard is a curved laminated wood pole with double hanging fixtures which can be ordered in varying lengths and heights. The committee's approval would not be for exact height or location but for general design. Height and location would be de-termined:�by Individual application needs. These lights can be� used. in parking areas and interior sidewalks as well. Mr. Cowan pointed out% by-the use of the transparency the light's use in landscape median areas. V He explained the light came in two types, double and single Tights. Committee The co-adttee was divided in their comments; Hembers Dressler and divided Chairman Sargent not liking the standard, and Members McLaren and Koenitaer thinking It attractive. Mr. Cowan asked Per. Dan Bandley, 10054 South Highway 3, Cuper.tines# if ho'or Mr. Andrich of Bank of America %sished to comment. 14r:. Bandley said he did not wish to comment 'as an architect had been hired to do a job and: he should answer for himself-. Alternativesil Mr. Anthony Andrich, 260 5th St-eet, San -Pranciscol -representative wanted of Bank of America, said he had not had time to see the illustra- i tion as he had had such short notice of the meeting: After luokl*g at s picture of the standard, he said he, had -no obj4x-ti= to this;f particular light, but would agree with Chairman Sargent in wanting to see some alternatives. Flo decision After more general, discussion, Chairman, Sargent said he did not . feel the committee was in a position to give approval on light standard to be used throughout entire quadrant. Since it was not necessary to make a decision tonight, he felt more discussion should be held on the lighting as such. Signing After looking at the drawings of sign possibilities, the committee's general opinion was that low profile monument type signs were desired. There should be a maximum height figure, but because of landscaping, heights would have to vary. No unifo_m- Member Koenitzer said the building structures would Nava to be eon- ity sidered in each sign application; absolute uniformity •lot wanted. Pole signs Chairman Sargent said he preferred not to have pole signs such as Bank of America has now, and noted this sign had not been approved. Low profile Member McLaren in referring to low profile signs in front of service stations said she sometimes found it difficult to see prices. She a :�� .h' ?rz?Si'+`'F f�..✓✓ * 4 h+('l '� 'fV.` 4 �.� � Rom' R t .� 3 W giId3�TE5 0 ' 114RCX 7, $p1CO ; C s " ..., xT .d < -76 ` Wage 11 said ihoie signs were ident:ificaiftbin 'for' po601e fn-biislt ef-end she lid`in be"able -io see``Ohat the-446� cooking 'for wtifib it`6aii L ing. Chai rash- S ivgeot agreed a cettain4 am�rii it' ref'`ar t#"add''i e e rfa$n amount sf-color was necessary. He th4h said tie" €elt `andugh glide i lines had been suggested to the Staff: The sigh at the Sandpiper Restaurant was questioned as gd t4eatrhtr jt Sandpiper had exceeded the temporary'sigh limitation. Mr. Cowan'said ha Restaurant would look up the expiration date. 4diriber Dressler`=s=gedollecr9.on t was that the sign world be left'up until the stt►pping `defier'gin"" was applied for. Chairman Sargent noted the sign concept was good but the sign had not been approved. Mr. Cowan again-approached the committee regarding a speciall,ameetivg pSpecial to discuss edme procedural changes in P-Control. The teiltativfeAate %meeting of Harch 13, 1973 was .got satisfactory. Chairman Sargent expressed-his cmncerit that nothing'was being•,-ddne,.- ffi.'Cerms about re ag-positions oft X-tontftol"eftmit tee.= Xe nil&ed` ttiefe- = expiring are three terms expiring the first of April- and asked that the Mayor be cwatacted"regarding this: It was the asked of Staff if airy-progress` had been made on-'the Sign Sign Ordinance discussed at- a=speetal tweeting last fall:: - bird Cotevat iordinance answered is the negative, saying-Statff -was-'too busy with ge .al" plans and. urban.service area: Chairman Sargent noted therm-had been no'serious problems 40,.,_. "PD only procedures except in Planned:.Development`-=appli-ations. He ;suggestdd problem on these a joint meeting with`f!lannisng -Comtoission.and Council getting E G's input. x Member Mcl.aren said she felt Council had c9nfidence in the work 'Council this committee was doing as most applications are-,passed on its approves recommendations without being put on the board. After more discussion, Chairman Sargent said if Mr. Cowan had Use'permi.t recommendations for &finite procedural changes a meeting could based on Ian be held, but he did not want to go over same things regarding :use Planning Development. He referred to ar. Gatto's assertion that the - .neral plan is guide enough and applicant making application under general plan should not have to have it reviewed by Planning Commission. If applicant wishes to change land use then it must ' go before Planning Commission and be rezoned :through general plan. No serious c_nfiicts then because use permit could be,iss'ped based on use of land. x tsG-96 :tY t9F '1' .:ARC45' '��. 1,973 *0'1TAD ; "Y�� t �`."4�A page ASAC fulfil Chairman Sargent these noted that Council seems to be appreciating the JOB role role;ASAC has and the, way ,_it is being fulfilled. Idea, of :rt u041Wt satisfactor y- ASAC;-,respopsibilities or changing make-up of committeesbvu�.�Sa,�►es brought up. giomation Glhen signs were being discussed, Biomationls sign was, commented ca as being very readable and not offensive. _ Hr. Cowan had noted that unfortunately, it was illegal. not on Mr. Ron tastel, Hill Sighs and Displaye, 755 Chestnut Street, Sao; agenda Jose was in the audience and questioned this. Mr. Cowau.told. ;che , Committee that•Bio=ation was not oa the agenda as they had failed , to bring in the exhibits and maps as requested. Applications Chairman Sargent said there see*-ed to be a breakdown in eommuvicat; ons. . need review He advised Mr. :iastel to contact the Staff and find out ;char would be necessary to :place this on the agenda as certain criteria meaded, to be reviewed before a decision could be made on applications., No decision fir. Cowan explained the sign had been approved, but was not located on the site that had been approved. Chairman Sargent ruled;the, . . committee was not in a position to give A decision at .this Guidelines Mr. Don Bandley then asked if Bob's $ig;boy lighting, apA,sig#aistg =_ only could be heard at the next session of the committee in two weeks. Chaigmgn $argent answered him that .no decision had been made one s . concept, merely guidelines to Staff and anyone else, inter.ested , Lighting and sign conceptshad been discussed: and-hopefully Staff= could pass onto applicant the benefit of>theit experience. Car gash Mr. Bandley asked if guidelines for signing between Highway .9 and!" sign Stevens Creek Boulevard had been set; and.if sign for car wash+ had been approved.. Mr. Cowan said the sign had-been approved- ' but owner wanted to come back to committee at its neat' meeting '- to talk about lowering of his sign. Lighting gar. Bandley said he is in dire need of ultimate lighting coacept' 'so concept they can proceed with other features of development as &whole needed Lack of signing is not holding up project. ADJOJRX, iT After more general discussion, McMber rcLaren moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:55 PH, with Member Dressler seconding the motion. ATTEST: APPROVED: y Clerk Ciiiirqo s e i f -a Face CITY n 103oo Tare venue, Cupertino fielepl,one: 252-•4505 Mli1U`;E5 orItECULEi M=I4G OF T� ARQUT� AND SITE ,MLY ?tiAL CAPl1�IZTT:zE F3At ApKIL 4, 157 3, lid A �C�tx@1�IL .C1h42��it, OUPEWT MCI! i SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting, was Galled to order at 7:32 P11 by Cha3rr an Sargent with s the Salute to the Flag. DOLL CALL N Koenitar, MclLaren, Sd11an and i�iembers present: Dressler Chairman Sar64 e nt , 4embers ac,c:.c: None Staff present Associate Planner Robert Conan Senior Planning Technician Toby Kramer Recording Secretary Ruth COX ±UT�S OF T11R PREVIOUS MEETING a S, paragraph T, the second line should 14ember Sallan noted on p.ge" read "Might- no longer apply • Sallan,w .iember ished to delete paragraph 5 On page 3, • - page t,- last line of last paragraph, member xoenitzer noted (here ri Marlinuch 21,i On p 6 ' t and on page 5, last paragraph, aitex would be 4 signs instead of 3, 1- ' • should read "the_e are already three wrought iron signs"• approved the , c Co: rec�� k1ember 11cLaren moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to approve minutes as ``' corrected. Motion passed, 4-0 POSTPONEMENTS: . r1r. Cowan reported item 9 en the agenda, Newman Progenies (R. Cali Bros.) had been postponed for two weeks. WRITTEN CO k1L'NICATIONS: None ORAL C01,91UNICATIONS: None - E s 9 `-78 MINUTES OF THE APRIL &, 1913 H-CONTROL MEETING 9`� � `'��Y, age 2 5= PUBLIC REARIINGS C-51,202.G 1. Applieation MC-52,262.6 of Fred 1W. Schell`, Inc. (garcia'ys Bank) 3arckays requesting approval'of architecttire for in addition to an exist- ank) ing building located at the southeast corner of Miller Avenue and Stevens Creek. Boulevard. taff Staff member Cowan advised this application was for site and architecture eport• modification as there will be an addition to the existing drive-up window and the addition of landscaping and two parking stalls. ccess The access at Niller Avenue was noted to be dangerous and useless so losed applicant is proposing to close it off and replace it with landscaping and 2 additional parking stalls. The traffic engineer has approved circulation with the six parallel parking spaces replacing the diagonal ones. anopy not The canopy is not in keeping with rest of building since the roof line .rn keeping will not be continuous, but the materials will be the same as existing building. lido. Mr. Cowan showed slides of site, existing building and plans for .howu architectural change. 'ore drive- Mr. Thomas Zarreonandia, representative for Fred W. Sch�11, Inc. , painted .n facili- out the added kiosk ri.11 provide 3 drive-up lanes. The reason for added -ies needed drive-up windows being that on Mondays and Fridays the cars stack up and create a problem. Improving drive-in facilities will be the equivalent of 15 parking spact:s. toof would Regarding the design of building, to continue the exact roof line as :e bulky existing drive-up window would create la ge bulk very near to Miller Avenue. .rea ade- Member Sallan questioned whether buV ding is set-back adequately for two .uate for additional lanes and parking. Mr. Zai 'aonandia answered the interior dditional would be increased and total area needed for triple lane is approximately .anes 32° . Member McLaren noted there it more and more demand for drive-up window facilities. 'illars to Member Koeni.tzer said the building is so unusual he could not judge if ,e Satre this would be the best solution. He did feel the pillars should be the same as existing ones. Mr. Zarraonandia said this would b4 no problem. 'ixtures Member ticLaren noted the architect had done a tremendous job of add- idden ing top portion to hide air conditioning fixtures on c_..isting building. { !I I P f } q . AP hYmN'i'ES 6p T k Mtn, d,, 1`973 u- page 3 Hember Dressler did not feel that such a small auuex.,to ,ci#- Iag roof would be objectional. In answer to Cbairma a.'Sargent,,lire ,Zarr#onandia said tfeese would be No signs signs for drive-up windows an the building, Chairman Sargent then. asked ,if there were any comments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzar moved. to close Public Bearings. Member Sallan seconded Public Eear- the'motion. ings closed Motion carried, 5-0 Member McLaren moved to recommend to City Council approval o_ applica_ HC-51,202.5 tion HC-51,202.6, Barclays .Bark, with the H-Control standard conditions, approved w Exhibits A-and r_-1 as enclosed,, with the stipulation that pillars. will stipulation be the same size as pillars on existing drive-in facilities. Seccuded by Member Sallan. AYES. Members Dressler, Koenitzerf McLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOES: None Motion passed, 5-0 Chairman Sargent advised the applicant his hearing before the City Council would be on April 16, 1973. 2. Application HC-51,305.2 of Dividend Industries-, Inc. requesting HC-51,30 5.2 approval of site, architecture, landscaping and grading for ten Dividend duplexes located adjacent to. and westerly of Foothill. Roulavard industries, northerly of the intersection of Foothill. Boulevard and Alcalde i.�. . Road. ; Staff member Cowan said the applicant is requesting approval for ten- 10 lots duplexes, noting the parcel had been reviewed under a different developer instead of and with more units. 'Later Dividend Industries had been given approval original. 11 for a new tentative map to realign property lines to provide for ten duplexes. Mr. Cowan said the applicant had opted not to put in walkway through to Footpath Foothill Boulevard from Merriman Drive. Because of safety hazard and hazardous maintenance problems, Planning Commission had agreed. 11r. Cowan showed slides of site and surrounding terrain. Also elevations Lots pro- of proposed duplexes and site plan. He noted the lot sizes and setbacks bibit path had been reviewed and they conform to the ordinance regulations. He pointed out new arrangement of lots prohibits walkway. z i A.^r. �xk ry. " r. f 3 ' kf rR •4 I1C-78 MINUTES OF TH9 AF`kit Page 4 7rrig,,tion For maintaining landscaping strip on Foothill Boulevard. it was suggested system that an irrigation system be connected to the front yard auto=tie sprinkler system of three individual u niis ran l6t� 4 rhkdugh $4f Elevations Mr. Cowan pointed out there are two floor plane with two alternate elevations. All are single story units so the,--t- will not be a visual problem from Foothill Boulevard. Underground There is a use permit before Planning Commission to defer some poles ing on Foothilli. Boulevard which could not be undergrounded. Grading Mr. Cowan then pointed out and discussed wit', the committee some of the grading problems -Inherent in this application. Mr. Walter Muir, 2160 Forest Avenue, San Jose, the signed in. SITE Member Koenitxer questioned discarding plans for footpath, feeling that putting the pathway on PG&E easement would be a better solution« He felt it would be well to provide pedestrian access to shopping cente- from Merriman }give. Mr. Muir said the legal staff had said,. " it was the Planning Commission's responsibility to make this deti.sion". and the decision had been made to eliminate the footpath. Y' Cowan noted the situation had been thoroughly discussed and both the .--n$ng Commission and the City Counctl had decided not to include the walkaray. Final map is in for final prc__ssing. Roof line Member Sallan ascertained that only the roof line of unit would be visible seen from Foothill Boulevard. Grading Further discussion of grading was held with Mr. Muir. With change_in, : discussed grade from sidewalk to fence along Foothill Boulevard, fence could be 6' to 8' above sidewa,'k. Member Sallan expressed concern about putting fence above slope feeling it was not desirable to have rich a tall expanse of fence on major street. Mr. Afuir said it was a choice of looking at a fence or into a backyard. Chairman Sargent pointed out that ordinarily houses did not back on main streets.. Two concerns Member Sallan said proposed landscaping looked as though it could be attractive, but grade difference at fence minimized landscaping. 11r.; Muir said he did not think homeowners would be happy with a lower fence. Chairman Sargent noted the committee was concerned both with privacy of individuals and view from Foothill Boulevard. Drainage Member McLaren asked about drainage. The committee discussed with Mr. Afuir his plans for correcting these Problems. Mr. Muir told the committee that all changes proposed when application had been previously approved had been made. The buildings had been changed to Lill single story and the number of units had been reduced from 11 to 10. The fence detail would be exactly the same as had e �{� /� ��y�y ,/{y� i.M`E V f 3wMApidt s i9l previously been approved and landscaping'would ednfbim t6 what had ' been asked for alt. lsrevious hearing. Member McLaren expressed her concern about the Safety of patients OWers control and visitors at the adjacent rest horse _rom people cutting through traffic from development to shopping center. Mr. Muir suggested people � who owned the rest home should control the traffic. ' Member Sallan asked if the 6' fence set back 21' 'mn slope: above 74'maximum corner point could be lowered a foot. Sc-.A pointed out that maximum landscaping, minimum fence and minimum ho je viers was desired. A maximum height of 7' above sidewalk was set. In answer to Member McLaren Mt. hjuir said the roofs were depicted ARCHITECTURE as being of medium shake. However, he asked if a roll tile roof could be substituted. Chairman Sargent said he felt the rustic style units called for a shake roof, while the Spanish style could use either the shake or tile. Member toenitzer questioned having the same floor plan in 2: of the 4 Cul-de-svc units. Mr. Muir said the lots in question were on a cul-de-sac and lots they could not be readily seen as being alike. He indicated the lots had beer, difficult ones to build on, the plans having beer juggled around by architects, engineers and marketing personnel.. ® Chairman Sargent noted this would probably not be a deterrent . buyers. Itecrber Koenitzer asked about area on plan labeled "commor. court". Common court M4. Muir explained this was an open landscaped area between two units. The buildings will be of stucco in various pastel colors. Nember Koani.tzer asked about existing cedar trees on lot 4. Chaiz- I.ANDSC•APING man Sargent suggested stipulating these trees be reta'ned. Member Sallan said any plants along foothill Boulevard should, be 5-gallon changed to 5-gallon size. Mr. Muir said most landscape architects plants felt the smaller plants outgrew the larger 'sizes. Member Sallan suggested planting larger trees in corner were the Cluster of grade difference is greatest. These trees to be 15-gall3n size in trees cluster of: 2 or 3. 1:r. Muir there spoke about maintenance of landscaped strip on the idai.n�enanca outside of the fence. He cc-mmented that havtn g the irrigation connected with the sprinkler systems might create a problem with plants being washed out and mud on the siAevalk. He questioned who would be responsible if this were to occur. He felt the City was better equipped to maintain this area and should not expect the , • IT�W ; . e. .y a"k4� i*ed HC-76 �SIFt(. rs Or THE A! 4, 1-tj rage 6 =;aintenanr_e devaloper to be responsible and certainly not the holmtowners. Gheitttstan bond pelted Sargent pointed out one reason far the wal�cwr `hadeend'ent9ha} property owners to maintain this area. I r. CdBian indUatid is 2-ye mai-ntenaace bond had been posted, Chairman Sargent :innourtced .this i-as a Public 'Hearing and asked for comments from the audience. $here were none. Public Hearing 2-1ember Sallan roved, seconded by Member NcLaren, to close Public Hearings. closed Motion passed, 5-0 Walkway Member Sallan said she wished to express her legitimate concern of preference walkway preference. tiC-51,305.2 timber Sallan moved to recommend approval of AC-51,305.2 to the- City approved w/ Council with standard H-Control ccnditions, enclosures Exhibitt A, " conditions B, B-1, B-2, B-3, B-4, C, C-1, C-2 and D, an4 with the following. additional conditions: - 1. That the fence on Foothill Boulrvard'be no higher than 7' from sidewalk elevation. 2. Northern boundary oleanders to remain intact and any 4azage done by developer to be; repaired. 3. Cedar trees on the property are to remain. These are located oa the rear of lot 4. 4. Change 1-gallon plants or, the Foothill Boulevard boundary to 5-gallon plants, making all plantLngs on Foothill Boulevard' a minimum of 5-gallon. 5. Two 15-gallon evergreen trees be positioned on the north corner fronting on Foothill Boulevard. These to be as per the City Staff reco-,gaendation. 6. Tiat the irrigation for the landscaped strip along Foothill Boulevard be connected to :he sprinkler system of the individual units in a manner satisfactory to the City Engineer. 7. That the committee has a preference for a footpath from the units fronting on roothill Boulevard to Foothill Boulevard. Member Koenitzer seconded the motion. AYES: Hember.s Dressler, Koenitzer, McLaren, Sallan and Chair-mar, Sargent NOES: done Motion carried, 5-0 Application to be heard by Council on April 16, 1973. t MIgJi3 ES OF THE APRIL 4. 1973 Isvt , . . Page 7 i A M nuta Efrder that, the City riot etteooraggd back-up devilopwntal.4 Minute Order alo,ag major frotetages was proposed; -and unanlmdowly .agreed 4 ya� -' 3,. Application HC-51,236.4 of David Flultt representing &fixate- HC-51 236.4 belle Montessori School regUesting 'approval of a sign plan Mvntessor? for an existing church facility la::ated at the southwest. School corner of Homestead Road and 14axine Avenue Staff member Cowan note' the application was for a sign plan for Staff report. an application approved at the committee's last xecting. The -sign will be placed along the northeast corner next to Maxine Avenue and can be placed parallel. The low profile sign is 3' x 8' with old English lettering mounted on redwood board between two brick' pillars. After a brief discussion, the committee felt that with the Staff Applicant nc Report a decision °could be made even though Jhe applicant was not present: present. Chairman Sargent noted this was a Public Hearing acd asked for comments from audience. There were none. Hember Xoenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to ticise'Public. Public Rearin, Hearings. closed Motion carried, 5-0:. : i Member Koenit'zer moved to reco end approval of HC`-�51,236.4�wi ith :IC-51,23c,4 standard H-Control conditions, Exhibit FIF lst Revision and the s approved a/ notation that sign be approximately parallel to 14xine Avenue on S notation the northeast corner of property. AYES: Members Dressler,Koenitzer, 11cLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent . NOES: None i t Motion carried, 5-0 s Application will be heard by City Council at its April 16, 1973 meeting. f 4. -Application HC-51,299.1 of S.H.A.R.E. , Inc. requesting approval of landscaping and lighting for a professional office S.11.A.R.E, , complex locatr.a on 6.9 acres betweer. Stev'tns Creek Boul,avard Inc:. and Alves Drive easterly of Key Chevrolet. i i Staff Member Cowan noted this appljce:tion hid been eiscussed Jn i Staff' ® length over several meetings. The hearing tonight was to cover landscaping and lighting. .q 4 HC-78 MINUTES OF THE APRIL 4, 1973 fi-CONTROL MEETING Page 8 LANDSCAPING Mr. Larry Madsen, 678' Arrowood, Los Altos, introduced, his landstape architect, Mr. Ken Schmidt, 339 S. San Antonio Road, Los Altos, , Use of Member Sallan said she was pleased by landscaping plan, noting all her deciduous concerns had been taken care of. She questioned use of deciduous plants pla..;:s near Bumbleberry Pie, suggesting these be changed to something, that would stay green. Mr. Schmidt explained his intent to put the evergreens back near the building, with the seasonalcolors nearer the street. Plan in detail Mr. Selmiidt explained his landscape plan in detail. Preference for Member Sallan expressed her preference for 5-gallon plants along 5-gallon size Stevens Creek Boulevard. Mr. Schmidt said his plantings were pre- dominately 15-gallon size in most areas. He said the junipers respond best from 1-gallon cans. Fencing The fence on east elevation was discussed. Landscape usage instead of discussed fencing was suggested. Chairman Sargent noted, however, that •land- scaping would not adequately serve this purpose for several years. Low profile Member McLaren asked the ultimate height of plants on west boundary, planting on noting the buildings had been set back to afford visibility to Key west. boundary Chevrolet. The clump of redwoods which would grow to 50' or more would defeat this intent. Eliminate 2 Mr. Madsen noted only two redwood trees protrude past building, the trees others being in back of building line. He suggested eliminating these two trees and replacing them with something smaller.. Member Sallan expressed her opposition to removing positioned trees without a line of site elevation of the proposed trees and visual impact from Stevens Creek Boulevard. Guavas too Member Koenitzer said the Pineapple Gauva trees in front of building dense line would be quite dense and suggested substituting another type of tree not so dense. Mr. Schmidt agreed 'to planting something that would not exceed 3' in height. Compromise Chairman Sargent asked Mr. Weiss if this would be a satisfactory com- agreeable promise and his representative answered it would be agreeable with them. LIGHTING The lighting was briefly discussed. Chairman Sargent announced this was a Public Hearing and open to comments from the audience. There were none. Pu;llic Hearing Member Sallan moved, saconded by Member McLaren, to close Public Hearings. closed Motion passed, 5-0 v ' k MINUTES OF THE E Ann 40 1973 H-CONTNAL MWING -7 . g$-9 Member Koenitzer moved, to recomuend approval of Application HC-51,299.1 HC-5L;299d' with standard *--Cone roL ecah4't-ions., Z*.01ts;., r'2 .°r 'Approved w/ Revision, C: l.At Revision, C-1, Ist Re lsion, ,C--Z,, 1s;t AeVA-t4 Condit-Ion and the following additional cooiditiarn, ' " s 1, That the two redwood trees and four Pineapple Guava trees at, southwest corner, trees'irt front of set-back line of buildings, be changed to some lox; growing pleats not over 3' high. Member McLaren seconded the motion. Member Sallan laoved to amend the arction ,to add that any plants Amendment along Stevens Creek Boulevard frontage be changed from 1--gallon to 5-gallon. The amendment died for lack of a second. Amendment died VOTE ON MOTION 41 AYES: Mcmbers Dressler, Koenitzer, McLarein, and Chairman Sargent NOES: None ABSTAIN: Hember Sallan x. Motion carried, 4-0,-1 Application to be heard by City Council at its April `16, 1973 meeting Chairman Sargent then announced a 5 "minute recess, xec-nivevi_,:g the "Recess meeting at 9:50 PM, 5. Application HC-51,075.33 of Vallco Park:, Ltd. requesting HC-51,075.33 approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading and Val lco Par-c.,Ltd. lighting for a 1-iight industrial building located at the ' south or 290 freeway, west of Tantau Avenue, north of Sfevens Creek Boulevard and east of Wolfe Eoad. 4. f Mr. Cowan indicated application concerned an industria_ building in Staff report I'allco Park. Use permit has been ap;`roved so site plan has basically been set. Using slides and plot plan, he pointed out location of two new roLds, area involved in possible freeway widening and buffer , area to futtnre building en adjacent site. He pointed out Staff's suggestion that 1.5' be provided between the future curb and the berg area to allow for a passible street tree planting prograir. along this rosd similar to the other major streecs in 'Ia'llco Park. he indicated the -15' could be picked up in adjustments to the lrindsc_tping in the front: and possible removal Of are rcu of parking in the rear. One area the .applicant was asked to speak to was the tactic farm along 'Tank fz!rm the north elevation of the building. a H•" k,1 a ft �. C--7S I•111RITLS Vi THE AVRIL 4, 1473 - C6-ItRC1 t�,'gs.l'laib t age 1�? �_ r • �. �� r.. i e,�¢fNr strip ; The 7' plantinz strip on west sidle which will act as a buffer to the ' shoppin center Bras discussed. 15' berm Mr. Walter Vard, 10750 id. Wolfe Road, erti.ndi snored' im to discuss satisfactory 1 the application. tie noted -landseapi.ng from curb 44'-30" from Stevens Creed: boulevard to homestead Finad. Wishing to conti.nce this same < landscaping schere, he suggested 10' for tree planting pro,-,.ram, shrinking, ; berm to 15' and putting building back 51. He pointed out that more park- ing will be needed when future building �s put in and property being reserved along freeway for future ramp road from freeway. :Ir. Cowan said Staff would agree to the 15' berm. Yank farm i:r. Aoger Anderson, 325-5th Street, San irancis;:o, discussed the tank screening farm area. It will be behind a 12' -redwood fence; irf3t tanks being under 12' . To cover the possibility of any tank being over 12' ,: it was their intent to depress portion of this area. There will be several rows of Elm trees planted right at fence and more trees planted next to freeway. The freeway is basically at a lower grade than pad aria of building. Trash area The trash containers will be dumpsters behind a .red=good fence and screened with planting. Equip-rent :tr. tAiderson described the construction of the building. The building behind fascia will be of __ad colored concrete finish with 'redwood coloredmmetal material for roofing. Ilechanleal equipment will be hidden behind the fascia over the warehouse area. Columns Nember Koenitzer said he would like to see the heavy aoluumis shotm continued on the front portion of building continued around the building. ?ir. Anderson explained the columns weren't continued because the rear portion or the building was the, warehousearea and didn't need any windows. Columns needed Chairman Sargent said the columns could continue without having to break up windows; without columns the view was of concrete tilt up panels • ;::,ncrete mass with no break in architecture, giving an appearance of beinn a warehouse. Hidden by Aember I:cLaren noted that when the office complex was c:.mplet.ed, office complex this side of the building would not be seen. Best design '14r. tfard noted four architects on Vallco Park's architectural Ueview board had discussed the design and this was the best solution. 4d' trees Chairman Sargent then suggested more dense planting of 40' trees to hide warehouse area. Grading It was noted there were no problems with Trading. M7[,1iL�TES orTHEAPs,IL , lob Page 11 3t�mber McLaren questioned height of lighht standards,, noting there Lighting had been incidents in`vallco Park where trucks 4ad backed.,into_ ,, light fixtures making deliveries in the rear of buildings. ifr. Anderson felt having the light poles iv the center,'o3 V concrete base would deter this happening. I1em1.er ioenitzer questioned having three -quarters or the trees to Landscaping; be planted in front of building of the same variety, 1Sonterey Pines. , ate felt more variety would be desirable. Mr. Anderson said he was not the landscape architect. _Ir. hill Ta-g, 10750 It. Golfe road, Cupertino, answered that the landscape architect was the same as for all of Vallco Park an: it was his preference not to have a great many types of plants. In answer to i-ferber Sallan, it was dete wined that hedge would be Hedge around planted around perimeter. perimeter The highest point of mound above curb. is 5'. Mound 5' at a highest point Chairman Sargent suagpsted adding another Elm tree to the two Elm trees on the east side and rather than 15-gallon :Monterey Pines, maybe two or three specimen trees, giving variation of height and breaking up large expanse of concrete wall. ,Ir. Tagg suggested two Honey Locust trees be replaced with a broad- Evergreens to leaf fast growing variety of evergreen. replace Chairman Sargent announced this was a Publ-.'&;i Hearing and invited comments fiom the audience. There were none. Member 'McLaren moved, seconded by Nember Sallan, to close Public Public Hearings Hearings. a closed Notion carried, 5-0 f z 1 :Member McLaren recommended approval to City •Council of Application HC-51,075.33 HC-51,075.33, subject to standard H-Control conditions, Exhibits A, _ approved w/ B, B-1, B and E; additional Exhibit A-1 as submitted by City Staff _ conditions and on this exhibit, berri area required be reduced from 20' to 15'. Also the following additional conditions: 1. That the two ;iontere;; Pines on east side of building be replace3 with specimen trees of an evergreen variety. 2. Two Honey Locust trees be replaced with broadleaf evergreen and one other variety of tree. Member Sallan seconded the motion. AYES; .iembers Dressler, Koenitzer, _IcLaren, Sallan and ® Chairman Sargent NOES: done Motion carried, 5-0 i ix-7 MNUT.ES Cr THE APIUL 4, 1913 it- Pager r Application will be heard by City Council at its April lir, 1973 meeting. J1 HC-51,21.8.1 C. Appl cation HC-51,2I8.1 a.. George Abamnos (Don's Burger) t- asiing Don's Burgers approval of a modification of Site and architecture for an Siting 'building located at the northwest corner o: Portal Avenue and '`` Stevens Creek Boulevard. Staff.report ir. Cowan noted the application is for c1nange in architecture and build- ing. Also to modify site plan by installing outdoor patio in conjunction with the restaurant. Slides Slides were shown of site and existing building with drawings of proposed changes. br. George Aharsnos, 20557 £ussall Lane, Saratoga, signed in. Site Chairman Sargent remarked that landscaping was being eliminated and there were uo plans indicated for replacing. Landscaping on perimeter of property on east side was discussed. 7' *si.dewalk `Ir. Aharuios said there was a 7' sidewalk instead of 10' and there was no room on east side for landscaping. 3' planter A 3' plar)�er was suggested, but Mr. Ahamnos said the parking was up against the building add fence, and if planter were added, there vould be no Backup space. Con inue Mr. Ahazanos asked the comriitee to continue landscaping portion of landscaping application and discuss the architecture. Architecture :fember icLaren asked about stairway proposed for rear of building. PSr. Ahamnos said it was a black steel railing with contrete exposed aggregate treads. He had been notified that offices on second story made an outside stairway mandatory, Too many The application was for 2 additional windows on east elevation and, 3 windows windows added to Portal Avenue-: elevation, aakir 5 windows on, this elevation, Each window to be 5' x 4' , with the gable be changed to an arch. It VYas felt that 5 windows would be excessive. It was noted violation covered only staircase; did not pertain to windows. After further discussion, Chairman Sar;,ent naanunced this was a Public Hearing and asked fo: co:i�:�e:nts from -audience. There were none. Public bearing Sallan moved, seconded by ''_ember 71cLaren, to close Public Hearings. closed 11otion carried, 5-0 2IC�51,213.1 "eriber Dressler moved to recomr•end to the City Council Application 11C-51, 218.10 subject to standard H-Control conditions with Exhibits B, D-1, B-2 and -3. Subject also to the -following conditions: x e 1. That the window plena on the apstaftsfront of the east elevation be rodeced=from 5 rL:44dows to 4 windows aiid that the win+dd" be- so placed to balAnce over the windows - . on the first floor of the same elevation., 2. Continue landscaping portion with the intention to --investi- gate parking area on the site so as to permit landscape planting along the east and north boundaries. Member Koenitzer seconded the motion. Mr. Ahamnos then said he would withdraw the patio portion of his application and just add the windows and stairway. t i After further discussion, the motion and second were withdrawn. Motion and 2nd ,withdrawn Member Dressier moved to continue Application HC-51 218.1 so that liC-51,218.1 applicant could firm up plans and resubmit. Member Koenitzer seconded continued the motion. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, McLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 Air. Ahamnos asked what he should do when the building inspector 4 approached him regarding violation. Mr. Cowan said he would check with the building inspector regarding the staircase, 7. Application HC•-51,251.1 of Phillips Petroleum Company, ;HC-51,251.1 requesting approval of a sign plan for an existing service Phillips station located at the southwest corner of McClellan Road `Petroleum and Stelling Road. ;Company i Staff Member Cowan noted this application was for approval of sign `Staff report. change. Phillips 66 will change to Jiffy, remove two existing pole r signs and replace with a tri-faced sign. The single sign to be located in corner radius. Sign will be yellow with dark letters. Mr. Dean Hamilton, 622 Emory Street, San Jose., explained change of 'Only name and name. The sign will advertise only the plant name and current price. :cul:rent pricca There will be no Phillips identification left in station. Chairman Sargent announced this was a Public Hearing and asked for comments from'the audience. There were none. Member Sallan moved, seconded by Member. 2.cLaren, to close the Public -Pub 14C ;fearing Hearings. ;closed Motion carried, 5-0 t F r s .t �4, :��•�' r',�2 `� a - HC,-78 la%.UTES OF THE AP'RIL 4, 1973 H-CQWT1t�JL Page 14 HC-51,251.1 Member McLaren move' for-approval of Application-;HC-5)tj0 rojj subvjeipt, approved to standard H-Control. conditions, Exhibits F, F-1 and.;p-Z.;aa.sutt fitted' and Resolution 805 3f the City of Cupertino dated-August ,a 197,Q. All other signs are to come down. Member Sallen seconded the motion. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, McLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 ' This application will be heard before City Council on April 16, 153. HC-51,078.1 S. Application H01-51,078.1 of 'Empire Permit Systems (Exxon Company) Exxon Company requesting approval of landscaping and a sign plan for an exist- in& service station located at the northwest corner of McClellan Road and Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. Staff report .fir. Cowan noted this application is to change Etfco Identification to Exxon. The existing inspection station shields are illegal_ as ;tiey are in the triangle. The shopping center will be respousi:;?e for plant- ing for both north and west prop:-rty lines. Planter areas along the street will be increased. Glides shown Mr. Cowan showed slides of station and existing signs. Sign The proposed sign will be compatible with the McClellan Square Shopping Center being proposed for the rest of the site. A frame along the top, was suggested to give sign a more completed look. Trash area The trash enclosure for rear of station was discussed by Mr. Cowan. -nclosure Mr. Glen Cvum spoke regarding the trash enclosure. This would be moved close to to the rear of station and be constructed of material compatible with tation in building. It will be rLaced close to the building. The enclosure would ear probably be a 6' we.;i structure. ign reduc- Member koenitzer felt the sign height could be reduced by 2'. tion Redncing height would give the sign better proportion. Mr. Crum said he would have to confer with Exxon to determine if it would be possible to reduce sign, and to get details of the way price sign is planned to be worked out. Mr. Crum suggested the appropriate thing would be to 'lave a delay permitted. ontinuance Chairman Sargent a.,ked the applicant if he would like a continuance so information could he gained on trash eaclosun. and sign. Mr. Crum Said he would agree to lower sign 2' but would like application considered. ne sign Mr. Cowan note' capping of sign was agreed to. He felt it would be worth the committee's while to look at the application since all signs from the site were being attempted to be put into one sign. i �s� i P pp MINUTES OF THE APRIL 4, 1973 *-C43ftOL MEN ING -78 P�age 15 During further discussion, Mr. Cam asked for specific'iiiees loni., Member Sall4p ;su at that 501 of the Jun per" in.the c tact" 1 radius be changed to something else taut would exc�e ..a iixiagzsim height of 3'. She also suggested ghct the Peter Pan a changed",. to Lily of. the Nile and to add xyleum to each of the corners of the island planting. Chairman Sargent noted there should. .be.a strong spring on trash enclosure. Aieraber Koenitze- suggested that some rocks or other decorative material be added to the corner radius area. Chairman Sargent then opened the hearing for comments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to close Public Hearing Public Hearings. Closed Motion carried, 5-0 Member Sallan moved to continue Application HC-51,078.1 to the HC-51,078.1 nw;t regularly scheduled meeting. Member Koenitzer seconded the continued motion. AYES: Members Tessler, Koenitzer, McLaren, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOES: None a ® Motion carried, 5-0 10. Application HC-51,088.14 of Hill Signs and Displays, " r, 4C-51,088.14 (Biomation) requesting approval of a modification of a continued sign plan for a light industrial building located in t�e West Valley Industrial Park, Lot 16. Continued from H-� Control meeting of March 21, 1973. Since the applicant was not present, Member Koenitzer moved to continue Application 11C-51,o8g.14. Member Sallan seconded the motion. Motion carried, 5-0 Member NcLaren noted interviews for new committee members would be Election of held April 23 and it was traditional to elect new officers after officers new members were selected. NEW BUSINESS Member Sallan questioned an item regarding County ASAC. Member Cowan reported environmental impact requirements would go Environment_:.',1 into effect at midnight. Member Sallan asked for printed procedures. Impact 1 �� t •.h5rtc 5 t t` �' �st�' �*,rah' r .: �"X�„ t� � x Y> � `2x r { tT w g�r • cCgi`i1y'TE5 AF_:IL s t a e8 16 xx Ufa l;:) SII3ES S lP.tlrTt�LSil;: agg Iteaber iCreni tzer ast.ed faent of post office. Tfse i 'sv�iwim*- journmznt -,he meeting adjourned at g,l`s5t? �• APPROVED' Chairmaa ATTEST: ty Clerk q } 5 try 173i1t; TG"_.Ei !;deataQ, r,,ora"tt 0 =n Pace 1 Telephone: 252-4505 s F _!.tUT� 0- Tad.' ZI:G'w°Ls'� ju.t.i i iu {l ' Wr` �!U-MiX'� C.; IRA"-, dt►,y S, co:_.z1 :� ozi Aran Iis, 1973 rev nCJii��CY14 , CITY L/',LL, C-.IrSRTINO, ctSL�T`Ji fiZl1 SALU`3 TO THE i LAO The :neeting '-as called to order at 7:33 P. by Chairman Sa-gent :;_:th t?ae Salute to the slag. ROLL CALL Hembers present: Dressler, hoenitzer, Sallan and Chair-an Sargent :iem'�ers absent: NcLaren Sta_f present: rN.ssociate Planner ''-_obert Cowan Senior Planning Technician Tohy,'iramer Recording Secretary Ruth Cox IIIAUTES o. TH-Z PREVIOUS :-T-2 l'ds Member Koenitzer said the last two lines of paragraph 3, pa-e 2, should read "....parking spaces replacing the diagonal ones." he wished to acid to zirst paragraph on page 15, his suggestion that some rocks or other decorative material be added to the corner radius area. ::ember Sallan wanted to include on page 8 her opposition to renov ng positioned trees -•zithout a "line of site elevation of the proposed trees and visual impact from Stevens Creek. 3oule- va.:d. On page 15, first p-'ragraph, '_'ember Sallan wished to add her t:ao sutgestions: 'hat the Peter Pan be changed to Lily of the Nile and to add ayleum to each of the corners of- the. island 'tinuzes o' plan'Ang. A rail 4, 1r7:3 approved as 'ieri_er :,oeaz3.'.zer moved to aipprcve minutes as corrected. :!ember Corrected Jre::sler se-:onded ;he motion, Motion passed, 4-0 { 7 1, � v a 5 y t y t HC-79 ',aNUTES or, THE ArM 18, 1973 H-Co2t WL !XMING Page 2 11r. Cowan reported item 2 an agenda, Empire permit Systems (Exxon Company) ,.as postrioned. ultITTEA MICAMICATIONS: 3oae ORAL COA21PJNICATIONS: 'rhe representative from Hill Signs and misplays (Biomation) listed as item 10 on agenda askel to be heard first dLe to a conflict in meetings. The committee agreed to hear this item first. PUBLIC HEA':INGS HC-51,488.14 10, Application M-51088.14 of Bill Signs and Displays (B oma- Hill Signs and Lion) requesting approval of a modification of a sign plan Displays for a light industrial building located in the hest valley (Biomation) Industrial Park, Trot 16. Continued from H-Control meeting of April 4, 1973. Staff report Staff "`ember Cowan reported this application was requesting approval of an additional face as well as a revised site location. The origi- nal sign was approved in November 1972 to be placed in a location 40 feet north of present location. Slides Slides were shotm of site and present location of sign. Ur. Cowan pointed out the sign was to have been parallel to Bubb Road and is in fact perpendicular. Set-back Member Dressler astted about set-back restrictions and Mr. Cowan said there were none. Committee taken Member Koenitzer said he had no objection to sign or adding second advantage of face, but felt the applicant had taken advantage of committee°s approval in not adhering to original location of sign. Plans should Nerdier Sallen agreed, noting that applicants should have to pay be followed 10_ er::o:s ::aye. She felt the plans should have been followed relative to ort-.at was approved. Jif:.icult and Chair--an SarGent noted the concrete base of the sign would be expensive to difficult and expensive to move. He felt this particular proposal cove would have been approved; however, if committee felt the sign was not acceptable or was not in an acceptable place, then the appli- cant should be asked to move it. :,r. icon Mastel, Bill Signs and Displays, explained he had made a snap judgment to move sign as concrete truck was waiting. Since there was no sidewalk or bikes path, and with the bend in the road, d r , the si f n :could be :feciag,an open field, givin Poo.,A desc £ cation. t Aster _u:thex diacen:s:aej Chairman S4rgetiit.anounced .eras a Public bearing and 'asked for comments from the aadieace. t T There were none. Hember K.:enitzer moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to close Public Nearings Public heaiin s. closod aoti.on Carrie::, 4-0 .ember Dressler recommended for approval to City Council C-51,088.14 Application he-51,0 8.14, again subject to staidari K-Control approved conditions with Exhibits A 1st 'Revision and B, allowing Bioration to add second face to monument. sign. Seconded by Zfem�)er Koenitzer. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitter and Chairman SarzPat �. HOES: :,e=ber Sailan AbSE SIT:N'ember McLaren :Motion passed,_3-1 ' Application will be heard before City Council at their meeting # o A. .fay 7, 1973. 1. Application HC-51,218 1 of George Ahaznos (Joo's Burger) 4C-51,218.1 requesting approval of a modification oZ site and dn's B ' urger architecture for an existing buil ing'located at the northwest corner of Portal Avenue and Stevens Creek Boulevard. Continued from K-Control meeting of April 4, 1473. r F Mr. Cowan noted this application was continued from the last + Staff report meeting to allow the applicant to make changes. The revised plans were put on the boa_d. Chairman Sargent requested the discussion be kept basically to Discussion to b. the ideas and concepts that are being presented in revised of revised application since architecture was discussed at previous meet- plans ins;;. The applicant, ::r. George,Aha=:ios, 20567 Russell Lane, Saratoga signed in. i `` r He-79 iam or R k Page 4 Plantings in S Mem:.er_Koenitzer suggested putting plants in :.rfangular areas triangles created by"angular parkI:a8 'along Portal Avetitee. 3r.faftamn6d pointed out there are light posts in two of the triangl elmd in was suggested planting 3unipzrs or something that would gam approximately 2 or 3' high around the posteLLnlso: Evergreen trees' ) ember Sallan wanted 5-gallon plantings instead o" 1-gallon and the liquidamb ar tree changed to an evergreen. She suggested the street trees on easterly 6oundary'should be 15-gallon evergreens. _responsible for 2'_:. Ahzrnnos questioned who would be responsible for watering the watering plants in the triangles since these would he on city pro-perty. He was in_ormed it uas not unusual for privates owners to maintain plantings on city property. Two pots to be Nember Sallan recori:._ended adding two additional 5-9'allon potted added to patio plants to patio; pots to be 30" in diameter. ."Yost landscapin" .;r. Ahamnos pointed out he was addin, 17 plants atr.I would have in center much more landscaping than anyone else in the shopping center. . Bases too large' After discussion, it-was decided the lig?it post standards Oere for planting too larbe at the base to allow planting around there so there would be planing in the center triangle only. Chairman Sargent announced this was a Public Hearing and asked for corments from the audience. There were none. Public Hearings ;etf-jer Koenitzer moved, and Member Sallan seconded, to close closed Public Hearings. _•lotion carried, 4-0 Chairman Sargent noted his feelings were still the same regarding architecture of the building. hC-51,218.1 .,Iember Sallan moved to recoz.,-end to City Council approval of approved w/ Application KC-51,218.1 with standard II-Control conditions and conditions enclosures Exhibit B 1st .revision. This is to include previous architectural exhibits with the following additional conditions: (1) Liquidambar tree as sho,.!n on site plan is to be c:r_ gel to an evergreen tree of 15-"allon size to t:_e satisiact"ion of the City Staff and the applicant. (2) Redcarding the patio, add two pore Dracena palms in planters :chic:. are a minimum of 30" in diameter. e R,ry 4 11INUTES OF THE APUL 180 1973 (3) Italian Cypress trees to be 5-gallon or Unimum of 6' high trees. (4) City trees as shown on plot plan to be IS- gallon size evergreens to, t ie reconra eudation of the City Staff. (5) One additional planter on the easterly parking boundary of the property is to be added with plantings to the specifications of City Staff, the intent being that shrubbery is to be placed in it with a nature growth of 3 to 5 feet. iiember lressler seconded the notion. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer and Sallan NOES: Chairman Sargent ABSENT: Member McLaren Motion passed, 3-1 Chairman Sargent notified applicant this would be heard before City Council at its .fay 7, 1973 meeting. 3. Application HC-51,199.1 of Newmaa Properties (R. Cali SC-51.,199,1 & Bros.) requesting approval of a sign plan•continued' Hewmaa Properti from li-Control meeting of December 20, 1972 and a modification of tze previously approved site and architectural plans in connection with a proposed neighborhood shopping center located at the northwest corner of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road and McClellan 'Load. Staff Herber Cowan gave background of application. Current appli- Staff report cation is for modifying site plan and _c..itectura: plan in z-- � I one of the satellite structures will be eliminated and the square footage incorporated in the bank building. The sign plan is also included. The other r_odification will involve the western terminus of Terry Way. A decision was made that Terry :ray could be made a mini cul- de-sac enda.ng at applicant's property. The applicant has agreed to landscape the portion of Terry Nay that is a public right-of- way. The remaining 20' of street section east of the center line will be completed when the adjacent property owner develops his property. A concrete wall with a pedestrian walkway connecting the cul-de-sac and shopping center will be built. The applicant wishes to be drive-up windows for bank on the east facing elevation. The three kiosks will increase stacking lane capacity but does place drive-up facing on Saratoga-Sunnyvale .toad ww«,. w KC-79 MUTES OF TM �PI:�Y: is 1913 fir" 1 Page 6 Hember Sallan noted there was no landscaping pleat included for frontage; _x. Cowart said the only impact on landscaping would be two columns for canopy that extended into landscaped area. Zlodification on maim building would re ove ttellis work and widen the four foot wood fascia in the center part or two main buildings to allow for greater visibility of signs for major tenants. After a reminder that there was to be no signing on buildings advertising products or services being sold is the stores, Mr. Cowan said a decision should be made if bank sign should conform to rest o= the centar or have its own sign program. Mr. Bob Whitted, 19991 Braemar Drive, Saratoga, signed in. 303 trees being Chairman Sargent pointed out that it had been established that good planted sized trees would be planted on north elevation of 1alph's Market to breaIc up ;;;a--s of wall. =ir. : hatted said 1501 tress ho-irg! 'nut in. SITE ?!ember Sallan expressed her concern about drive-up windows being put on easterly elevation. She said landscaping on frontage - should provide total screening if the change trere made. Storage vault :lr. CT.itted explained reasons for bank modifications. The extra square footage trill be used as a storage vault. Landscaping will' obstruct any view of drive-up windows from Saratoga-Sunnyvale _ioad. .Ave bank It teas suggested that the bank building be moved over and eliminate building angular parkin :. ::r. '.,pitted said the 3uil.ding eras locked in due to viai_iiity "=ar ":_ajor tei:.ants. 'Luilding locked After further discussion, '_:r. Fhitted introduced ?r.. '_Utsuru Tuder, in 555 Sutter Street. San Franciaco,representative for the Sumitono bane. _1!r. Tuder Jd there vas an a<"ierent ;etween .,ewer. Fr:Perties an.: the ]yank: tha- t o ba i 4"ns: soul. ,.ot be rzcved. i:e cog sent_A1 t:*:e three drive-up wine.o-•9s wouw,� gi-*e ale,utte stackin.- without intlerfer- ing with traffic in parking area. Canopy In a ciscussion relative to the canopy, Mr. Tuner said he felt the overhanZ as presented gave a m-:re natural feeling to the bank architecture. ''1er..ber" Koen:itzer suo�ested shortening the canopy and', reu:, ving the last t•.;o cclu::"ns. ''r. Tuder said the drive-up kios'_: should h :-re equate �;e;?thcr protection. It was noted the _a:,L. tecture T•:as '--ether loekin with the sleeper car_o-)y. :'ire proo-' The sturage r�.o_. will be Zlrn proof; essential to tare operation vault of the baliK. MM TE5 OI TO APRIL 18, 1971 H-COUTROL `!Bt^i�I Page 7 In answer to Chair-...an Sargent, it was noted there was an apgro i- Grading mate 2' difference between finished ,floor of bank .ana the sid wal,c grade level. There is a 6" to r" berr: with grade being' dipendeot on drainage. Bartle will not be hiuher than rest of parking lot. U. Cowan pointed out the total rise frOTn front o= sidewalk to 4' berm Sav-On Drug will be about 5'. Chairman Sargent noted Exhibit C l.strevision shows the grade level at sidewalk is the sae as in front o:: bank. He suggested increasing berm to 4' with landscaping on it. Tuder pointed out: that taller foliage would obscure the detail. Canopy detail work in the canopy. Member Koenitzer suggested "No Parking" signs should be installed on No parking on cal-de-sac end. cul-de-sac Pir. Mitted said that having the signs remain in position previously Ralph's interior approved would ruin the entire effect o:: interior design of Ralph's 11arket. .Member Dressler suggested dropping the elipse shaped sign which is Dropping sign to Ralph's _iarket logo and the Sav-On Drug sign just below the canopy hang fro:. fascia and hanging :-o-w the fascia. Mr, Jim .Mood, 3410 W. 3rd Street, Los Angeles, said this would be Agreeable to agreeable. representative A blanket sign plan for shopping center c-:as discussed. Preference Blanket sign pl- was expressed that each shop by allowed to choose its own colors as long as the sign was well done and followed over-all pattern. _"Ir. Tader said the blue and white sign shown on bank is the Swtitomo Bank logo Bank loc-o. 11r. Cowan said the architect has suggested that signing for the ` Center signing center have a cream or white background with variation of letter colors. The sign can would be dark brown. Staff would approve individual sins for color. Chairman Sargent reiterated the policy that no signs such as ! Extra signs on liquor, dry cleaning, etc. be placed on buildings. Pir. Whitted buildings asked if :prescriptions was in the same category as liquors, etc. It was ruled that it was. Member Sallan again expressed her concern that landscaping in front 6' screening 06 cf the bank would not do a 6' screeninb ;fob. i HC-79 MUTES OF THE APRIM 18, 1973 It-W;BMM IMMIG ; Page $ Chairr:An Sargent noted this was a Public Hearing and asked for comments from the audience. ':here were none, Public Hearings ::ember Sallan moved, seconded by 11arber Koenitzer, to close Public closed Hearings. 'lotion carried, 4-0 IIC-51,199.1 Nember Dressler roved to recor:rend approval of Application IiC-51,199.1 approved w/ to the City Council, subject to standard H-Control conditions, to conditions anerd the existing application that was approved and reco=ended by this body on December 20, 1972 with tiv� revisions to the plans as submitted with Exhibits A 3rd Revision, A-2, Exhibit B 1st Revision, B-3 1.3t Revision, ±:-2 and informational items presented with the application along with ti,.-- folio-.-Ang additional conditions: ` (1) That the berm height in front of the Sumitomo Bnnk on Saratoga-Sunnyvale Highway be increased from 3-1/2' to 4' with landscaping planted ort this berm to range from a height of 1' to 3' so as to give a maximum 7' screening of auto:-abiles. (2) the grade increase frov. the top of the curb on Saratoga-Sunnyvale Highway in front of the Sumitomo Bank shall not exceed l' in rise Co the east ele,•a- tion o� the Sumitomo Bank main bank building. (3) To reriove the various store advertisings within Ralph's .Iarket and 5av-On DruFs from the buildin"s, specifically to eliminate the proposed liquor si n and prescription erug (4) To Dvdify the fascia plan for tiie front of Ralph's Market and Sate-On Drugs to be a straight and clean fascia as originally planned and to hang the Ralph's and Sav-On identification signs under the roof overhang `= at a locution suitable to City Start: approval. (5) To adopt the sign plan on the small shops as proposed wit., a dark brown sign fr,--rune can with a cream colored backtround, leaving selection of the color oL letters to the approval of the store tenant and City Staff, and to permit the St:mitor'o rank to use their existing logo and colors, putting letters on a blue-green bac.1,round; to further c:laa-ify Sumitomo signs will be encased hi si;n can o the small shops in center, and to main compliment the applicant on his development. Seconde(i by '-e-ber a:flan. j. .l"1a.13'MS 0! !Mils AP.7111L lb, l973 H-CON-i1% .°XEMGs page 9 AYES: :'embers :3ressler, Koeal tzer, Sallan and Chatridan =fY 5�rrent OLS; .Sane AhSh:T: ::ember ::(Laren :;Ot loii passed, 4-9 Application *.-ill be heard by City Council at its :lay 7,. 1973 meeting. 4. Application I C-51,19n.2 of ilemian Properties ( ?'..Cali HC-51,199.2 & Dros.) requestius an exception to the -Sien p_dinance euman Frc;ert: to allow a -•::op?ins center sign in addition to a ground si-n for a nronosed nei_hbor.I:god 'shoppinC center located ai. Liie nortiraest corner of•Sa=atogc a- Sunny,vale :oad and McClellan Road. :proposed shoppinC center sign was reviewed.- It Baas su-:Eested Smaller si a using same bnsi.c plan but sizing it down to 16' x 12' or 12' x 9'. :;ember xoenitzer felt the la::,:,-er words should be the shoppin4 :;air. iuucton center na..e and provision ma'.:e -for covering minor tenants. identify c..nte: Chairr_an Sa-:gent aSreed the ;_ain function was to identify the shopping cer:t.er :nd the secondary function to identify mrijor tenants. the establishment of a shopping center si€n policy was d scussed. Policy discuss( :ir. T�'hitted noted the si r. ordinance would allow a sign for every Cowetitivc buildinG. The applicant is trying to keep sign clear_ as possible Mvanta�.e for but give t,:n nts proper i":(�n*-i cation. He laid it had been a Sarbo's uii.ticu-t. Con l,: ?;��CSg to get tno- Saar-bo s sign 1�JC7f_'J"L`d to 13' and he eras concerned the ccr.petitive' advantaCe to time other tenants if the 12' was required. Chairman Sa ent felt there was wasted space on tenter sign and Contir_uati n su—e3ted the si_n could be redesi-ned. lie nsked the applicant suggescec if he woul(: lilce a continuation of this application. 'Ir. Wood asi:cd i:: the co-,� ittee would anprova a 14' sign, keeping 14' sign IScClellan 5qua_e potion -t 2' and letting '_Wrii's 'larket and requested Sav-On :)rugs split the difference. ?:ember Dressler proposed a smaller si.,n on :•:cClellan lioad; a Identif'yjx-- si- monument type sign identifying :!cClellan Square. :tr. t:hit•ted on :_CCl_c11._n asked they be granted the right Lut not the obligation to put load a sign on ::cClellan "oad. t t t c r, x HC-79 3lIIMM 0f THH et Page 10 After further discussions C:airnan Sargent announced this sbtas a Public Hearing and opened the meeting for torments from the audience. There r... were :nose-:.. Public Hearings Member Koenitzer. moved to close Public Hearings. Itember Dressler closed seconded the motion. Mo*ion carried, 4-0 HC-51,199.2 ::ember Koenieaer moved to reco=send approval of Application HC-510 approved w/ 199.2 to, ti,d City Council with the standard U-Control condition's conditions and Exhibits r lst i:evision, r-1 and other informational material with the rollowing additional conditions:. (1) That the sib on Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rod shall be ' 14' hi4h x 10-1/2' wide with the Ralph's and Sav-On signs in proportion to these overall outlines; the :,:cClel'an Square part to remain 2' high. (2) That a monument sxtapproximately 3' be provided on :IcClellan road to say "::cCiellan Square", if they . desire tq put such a monument sign up. Length to be approved by Staff, Nember Dressler seconded the notion. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan and Chairman. Sargent NOES: 'none ABSENT: ::ember :_cLaren j lotion carried, 4-0 Sign not to be Ur. Cowan wanted it clear that sign would not be on mounding. . on mound Chairz�as Sargent announced this application would be heard before City Council at its May 7, 1973 meeting, Recess Chairman Sargent declared a ten minute recess at 10:20 P. 1. with the meeting reconvening at 10:30 P.:1. ?:inure Order :`_ember Sallan made a motion for a 11inute Order that in the future relative to signs, si-.ning for inir.ial phasing of developments to be considered temporary and -inal review to take place when the last phase is proposed. Motion carries:, 4-0 1iC-51,088.17 $. Application IiC-51,038.17 of 'Nicroma, Inc. requesting approval i 1crcma, Inc. of lightina `or a li nt industriel building located in the West Valley Industrial Park, 10260 Bubb road. ,: a� ,�' r y^�,. L r.` "cis .'.✓. 2MMUS A: THE APRIL 18, 1973 H-CMITROL :'ZEMG' t Page 11 is o Cdwav said the major '&Jnce:1V was -the flood Ii htb n=a"Wi .°: �t Staff report � E � p out. Lights could sproad over into De mza Va?tlC o x 1 Ur, Bob Byrne, 1525 srre Lane, Sunnyvale, said the applltoiA146dsl :>Does not want not want to take up a lot of asphalt whicu would be required if S`to remove light stand'ds we-e placed 1 : the 'lot.- He noted chere'`=ts ii ' asphalt of redwood trees about 6' high with 10' spacings behind 'O rMng ,f lot alnic% would protect adjacent property from lights. 8t Chairman, Sargent noted need for lighting, but expressed preferdfide ;`:Light standards for light standards. ( :preferred Member Koenitzer noted that u-ires can be laid in concrete, aft (:Wires in concrete suggested light standards in parking lot. 1 :•fir. Byrne showed models o:: lights and photos of back of building. ;;Model photos He said because of e^ployee's patio and fencing in tank farm, lights distributed on back of building would be blocked off. t Mr. Cowan noted that no infoxrat on was submitted with the appli j No lightin g cation that gave lighting pattern. pattern subri.tteL Chairr_an Sargent gave the applicant the option vf- afttinuing Options- offered application and presenting information showing how these lights cau be focused to cover onlyparking lot- or comin1g: baak taith pole lights which the com uitcee pre-A"erred. 2Sember Sallan moved to continue this application. itermber Koenitzerl HC-51,088.17 seconded the motion. continued AYES: Nembers Dressler, Koenitzer, Sall-an and Chairtan Sargent NOES,, None ABSE:•:T: ?ie:ver I•ici.aren Motion carried, 4-0 � 6. Application HC-51,311.2 of Hogue Construction Company, HC-51,311.2 Inc. requesting approval of site, architecture, land- Hogue Construc- scaping and grading for three duplexes located on ; tion Co. Lots 1, 2 and 3, Vista Drive and tiro duplexes located on Lots 4 and 7,, Hogue Court. !!r. Cowan pointed out lots under consideration on the boarded Staff report plot nap. The application is requesting approval for five duplex lots, all single story structures. Hr. Jiro Hogue, 668 Saratoga Avenue, San Jose, signed in and the Site discussed ® site was discussed. 3:' s 'v`. � -f: a - •=, . .a.,; #x � -79 fm*t& OP Tim AIPM iS� 19e� i�-dP 3E , m S rchitecture Z°ember Koenitzer noted elevations C and A were adjacent and had basically the same floor plan. He also noted roof c,f C was much higher ti +oaf elevat A., Ift;. gnae: slid the romf;,iine mod be" g a custom look to duplegea:. ; ., ,, +- No problem,, . . andscaping Chairman Sargert, reminded all trees, must-be a minimum of 6'-at time of planting. ndscapiag Member Kcen'tzer felt the landscaping seemed sparse andsmall in Y parse size. ence questioi.-1 Member Sallan asked about fence. Mr. Hogue said it would be a 6' fence anc planting on interior of fence would be done by the individual owners. dditional trees Member Saban asked about orchard areas remaining along Vista Avenue. She asked If the applicant would consider putting more trees on Vista Avenue front yards, and change the Peter Pan to Lily of the Nile. Plantings should be a minimum of 5-gallon ;Ln front. She suggested a clump of 3 trees (15-gallon size) ,iu ;;rggp- of each unit. tree, crowded Mr. Hogue felt 3 trees might be too many. ve fencr and MEEmber Sallan expressed her concern about the fence. Suggested y andscapr< moving fence to the interior and landscaping the exterior. After further discussion,, Chairman Sargent 'noted dais was -a Pub Hearing and asked" for comments from the audience. There ,were ublic Hearings 'eember Koenitzer morsel, seconded by Member Dressler, .to closa . losed Public Hearings. Motion passed, 4 pplication Member Sallan moved to recommend approval to City Council of C-5.1,311.2 Application HC-51,311.2, Hogue Construction. Company, Inc. with pproved- with enclosures Exhibits A, A-1, A-2, B, B-1, B-1, B-3 and the standard onditions H-Control conditions with the following additional conditions relative to landscaping: (1) All plants along Vista Drive to be 5-gallon instead of 1-gallon size. (2) The plant vpriety denoted as Peter Pan on landscape legend to be changed to Lily of the Nile. (3) That a total of 9 trees are to be positioned along the Vista Drive frontage. These trees to be a minimum jaMES OF THE APRIL 18, 1973 11 CMMOL MAt&G BC-79 Page 13 1 of 15-gallon evergreen'. This to of 9 trees may include existing orchard .trees, a 11ember Koenitzer seconded the motion. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan and Chairman Sargent ` i NODS: None 3 ABSENT: .11ember .:cLaren a 2!otion carried, 4-0 { 7. p°,,paication HC-51,311.1 of Ted R. Young -requesting approval RC-51,311.1 of site, architecture and landscaping for a duplex located i Ted R. Young on Lot 5, Hogue Court. i i Mr. Cowan pointed out Lot 5" on the tentative map. There is no 1 Staff report problem regarding set-back or grading. %r. Ted Young, 10174 Raudy Lane, Cupertino, sinrned in. i •mere here po qu st3o=s on. site. Site. ® Chair Lan Sargent felt the stucco wall as shown on Exhibit B was } Architecture not attractive and could use some wrought detail to break up detail needed stucco e2r�anse until the Italian Cypress was -town. {1 11ember Koenitzer asked about second main entrance. 'Mr. Young � Second entrance said it set back -about 4' into building. There were no problems with grading. Grading ::ember Sallan noted dp"plicant had tried to 1.ut in maximum greenery. Landscaping .Sr. Young said he was to be living in one side of duplex and wished to divide his area fro-; the tenant's. Chairman Sargent noted this was a Public Hearing and asked for comments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer, seconded by :Somber Dressler, moved to close Public Hearings Public Hearings. cicaed 1 Notion carried, 4-0 ! i Member Koenitzer ,caved to recon-nend for approval to City Council j HC-51,31.1.1 Application HC-51,31i.1 with standard 11-Control conditions, Exhibit approved ca/ A and B and additional rondicion that some decorative wrought iron condition be applied on ri;ht front of building where there is a blank stucco wall. Me:!ber Dressler seconded the motion. 1 Hi,.:-79 `! irlLr AP_ZY, lfi� F.91 @MC 0l. "7?ET$t�Cs ra,,e 14 1` t - AYES: ?:embers uressler, Koenitzer, Sallan- and Chairtr.0 Sargent HOES: None ABSENT: ikuber McLaren Motion passed, 4-0 kiC-51,2.83. PP � 8. Application HC-51 283.2 of Coast Signs representing the Coast Si.gns Sandpiper Restaurant requesting approval of a sign plan (Sandpiler for a restaurant located at the northwest corner of -Mary, restaurant) i Avenue and Stevens Creek Boulevard. Staff report Staff memoer Cowan n,�-tta this was a continuat'_on from August a, � 1972 and was a question of signinZ on a sb,pping center site. Based or. a meeting with the City Attorney it was zuggested the Sandpipar 10estaurant be allowed a temporary sign permit to extend for an indefinite perind o�' tame t r i.l a si o:►'program for thei abippzng center was submitted. Shopping center :3r. B'Lll E rd, 15 Carden Lane, San Carlos, noted there was no indefinite guarantee as to when or if the shopping :enter wottli be Aeveloped. i "esta-arant to Chairman Sargent said a temporary sign permit could be granted- be allowed a and the applicr•at would not be required to core in until shopping separate sign center was developed. The bond would continue to be held. Ua-. noted -there was sn e.th »ht that the::nPPa- si"r ordivance would allow a restaurant to have a separate sign. Majority of The applicant asked if the committee had any objections to they committee satis- sign itself and was notified the ma; ority of .he committee had fied with sign vo^.ed in ;ts favor. Chairman Sa_oent announced tais was a Public Hearing and invited comments iron the audience. There were none. Public Bearings '_Member Dressler moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to close closed Public Hearings. :lotion carried, 4-0 dC-519283.2 :!enbe.r Keenitzer roved to recommend indefinite continuance of approved temporary sign perrAL to the S,r,dpiper _:estauraant until such time as the entire shopping center sign plan is brought before Ue c.o::mittee. The bend io_ the temporary sign will be in force during this time. Member Sallan seconded the motion. AYES: Fc-.mbe :s Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan and Chairman Sargent NOF4: ;done ABSENT: !!ember '`cLaren Notion carried, 4-0 InNUTES Or THE APRIL 18, 1973 li-CONTROL tMMNG {' NC-79 ! Page 15 f Chairman Sargent notified the applicant he did qot need to appear before the City Council. j iLEW OF CHANIGE Or COPY :7,114 SIGN FACE 9. Michael Del ",onaco requesting change of copy of an existing I lfichael jel sign located at 19930 Stevens Creels Boulevard, formerly Monaco change of Purciy's ^.estaurant. copy Pir. Cowan explained this was a restaurant which was undergoing Staff report refurbishing, formerly known as Purdy's 11estaurant. The sign face was being changed to reflect new management. 'Slides were shone of si';e, present sign and proposed sign. f Slides shown f Mr. Pat Gaines, 1066 Paintbrush give, Sunnyvale, represented 1 Illuminated .)el 11onaco. He described the sign as plastic letters on white ;( 20' sign background which will be illuminated. The gondola is the 3 Florentine's logo. The sign will be 20' in height. 1111� I Chairman Sargent expressed his concern about change of copy and I Concern expresse asked Staff for its opinion. 'ir. Cowan said the ordinance is ; re new copy very clear that si&n can stay and owner can change copy. Member I:oenitzer noted application is pending for additional. i Sign revision parking and landscaping, so the applicant might want to consider I suggested revising sign. In answer to Chairman Sargent, Mr. Gaines said the applicant ; April 24 opening plans to open on April 24. Sign can be erected within 3 days of ' date appro,.al. z Member Sallan said she was concerrsd about height of sign; was Sign too tall interested in seeing a sign a good deal lower. {j Chairman Sargent asked if copy were to be approved, would the i Lower sign if applicant consider bringing new infor:�:ation regarding lowering of ! copy approved? sign when the landscape plan is subiitted. Iir. Gaines said he was could not speak fcr "r. Del ifonaco; he was just the siGn maker. f Member Sallan asked that Ar. Gaines communicate the feelings of. Communicate this committee co the owner. feelings 1 Chairman Sargent suggested continuing the request until the whole Existing siims plan was presented with Staff apprcvin; a to Pr rary sign change can stay which would allow them to o,ien on schedule. ?Mr. Cowan said there indefinitely was a legal position to be considered; existing signs can go on forever. After further discussion :Member Koenitze:- moved to approve change ! Chan4e of copy of copy to :lorentine Pasta and Vino. Ner_,ber W:"sl.er`�secoaded ° approved the motion. iIC[[ -7n IM, US O iM A�i L 14 S l l�"f E �� r.� 5 n.k�.' «v� ,• ,c mi '� '.+ �'� 7 .'age 16 AYES: .1embexs Dressler, Koenitaer and Chairmsn Sargent 110ES: None i Ai3STAIN: "ember Sallan ABS.';T: :Member ','cLareea Notion passed, 3-0-1 INPiNISEED BUSINESS I Bob's BiL Boy Mr. Cowan said :_r. Bob rakin fro:-. Bcb's BiL Boy wanted to be certain if lanterns on building had been approved as part od the application, Mr. Eakin also expressed his deep concern about the type of parkin; lot lights which were approved. tie did not feel they would be co--patible with his restaurant. Lanterns approved The cor:-.Attee agreed the lanterns on the building ►_.ad been included in the approval. Architect to dis- It was noted that the parking i,tt lighting was an overall cuss li;,itting Crossroads project and this should be discussed •with the architect who had been hired to do this. Special r:Ai:ting Mr. Cowan reported that :ir. Coleman. architect for landscaping on :1,y 2, 1973 of median and right-o::-way on Sarato-za-Sunnyva-le 2oad, had co=:pleted his plans. Since Dennis lion.- and Bob's Big Zoy were eager to $et started, he suggested a special meeting with :ir. Coleman to discuss the proposed landscaping. A tentative date of :Wednesday, _ay 2, was set. Holes is Portal ?Member Sallan reported she had received a com2laint regarding ?laza parking lot the surface of the parking lot in Portal Plaza Shopping surfaca Center. Th(_re are soles in the surfacing throuShout the center. Staff to fcllow up. Article distri- :;ember Sallen also distributed a- -rticle out o.: Halley Journal buted regarding landscaping inportanca. 'i;�,s vending '.•ieriber loenitzer aske62 it there were any report on hews vending ;amines at P. O, machines in zront of Post Office. 1'r. Cowan said there were some legal icplications In which the City Attorney was involved. pl.r:nts It WJ3 reported th<<t ti:e plants in front of Payless were creeping anr_ fr-�rtilizer further out into the par::zn, lot. Sta. :1c:!ber Kraincr said the ?rejecting ferLIlizer sack:i were a pro"iler1. This will be checked into by the StaE.(. AdjeurnmellL 'le-ber Sallan rot•eu to a(:journ the c:eetinL at 11:35 P..1. seconded by :•'ember. 0�:eEsler. :iotion unanis,Dusly carried. ATTEST: APPROVED: { (, y Cle C irman i i a x a 0 CTY Of- C.Li'ERTI3t3 . <.. - bo -0300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Page 1 Telephone: 252-4505 .11AWTES Ci" THE REGULAi. ADJOUM'D MXETINC O_' ,THE AMCHIT;•CTU AL X.4D SIT!: AP:itO�AL CO"11TTEE ON `,W 2, 1973, IN THE COUNCIL Clizait;ER, CITY HALL, CUPE3TINO.. CALI.c"J tNZA F SALUTE TO THE FLAG The mEetinl.; was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Vice-Chairman ilcLaren with the Salute to the Play OATH OF OFFICE The Oath of Office was administered to the ,:eta Committee ifeniner Deni.el Weinstain by Deputy City Clerk Ellen Pagnini, ROLL CALL fezlbexs present: koenitzer, Sa11an, Weinstein and Vice - Chairran %icLaren Ntembers absent: Dressler ® Staff present: Associate Planner Robert Cowan )eputy City Clerk Ellen Pagn ni. Vice-CLairnnan 'IcLaren announced that election of o=fi.cers for the ASAC would be held at the adjourned meetin8 on Thursday, '.;Uay 3, 1973 or at 'the next ie;ular tueeting on Vednesday, '_-fay 9, 1973. TEi4'0i.A Y SIGN PER:IT Staff ?Iember Cowan noted tez.porary signs are usually at the discre- Staff re ort tion of' the Planning Director, but s:.nce this application appeared highly controversial., it was being referred to E-Control for their consideration. The application is for signs to cover two periods: May 4 throu;h Nay 9 to advertise the Plymouth Troubleshooting Contest that the DeAnra College's Autojaotive Technology Department is hosting, and :'ay 18 through June. 4 to. advertise the ve Anaa :;ay community recreation fair on Stuiday, June 3. The si.grs Would be mounted oa ., truck to 1,e situated on the corner o,: Stellini 1'.oad and Stevens Creek Boulevard. The double--faced sign would be 15' x 301 . a ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL CONMITTEE MINUTES 3 of 12 01/03/1973 - 12/19/1974 T , "�.''i:� "� .dl N ' 'ik t >r ,'"'.y,K �k,. •�1 3� 'X � "%�_P �., � '4, � tic-S0 rtatatJ'rss or Ai)JODUM MY 2, 1973 �-CQtdT&i3L Page 2 On site too liember Sallan felt the period of time was too lengthy Md Noise-Chairman long ?I^_Laren asked if tho truck could be moved from the lc:attcn during the period of stay 9 to Nay 18. Precedent Member Sallann felt perhaps this would be setting a preeexUut for this type of advertising. Less obtru Aiember Weinstein suggested exploring a less obtrusive sign, stipulating sive sign sign was to be removed in the period between events. Smaller sign Vice-Chair~.an McLaren noted the trees are down-on the: corner of the Saich visible property so that smaller'sign wc•ild be readily visible. Standard !ember Koenitzer pointed out this was probably a standard sign that is sign hauled over the country to advertise these events. .lore infor7aa Vice-Chairman UcLarert sail the committee should know what type of sign- tion uaaded ing would be used for the De Anza Day community recreation fair, and suggested continuing until someone could preso t more tvt ormation. ;e�reseata- Hr. Joel B. ;:old€us, Public lnfor_:ation office of Foothill .junior rive College District, said the sigh for the Troubleshootias- Contest was a middle-tone blue and white with black De Anza letter at" the bottom. !.-a partici Sr. Goldfus explained that high school automotive clase-s from East potion flay and local area plus co=�—unity college aut.oraotive amasses from Fresno north would be represe.-ted. He explained t1he a would be 130-40 cars in parking lot all with the sa,_.e mal. unction put in by the factory and the participants would be timed and graded on their disco:tery of this Ikilfunction. lie also e-xplained there was a possibility of De Anza hosting the iTational Contest of this event. Jtil r A discussion was held regarding other means oZ- advertising that would w;iv�rtising be used to cover this event. usage of In answer to Vice-Chairman _•1cLaren's question about deal n for the De Anza =iy De Anza Day sicn, :Ir. Gold_us said this had not been decided uUun sign yet. tie said it probably would be done by the students, subje,-t to H-Control approval. He Pointed out it wouEl be non- izercial u3agL, liard.tcd usage and co-,_-unity usage. J .nil.J �. :[tt .•ie�,be'" Wk?i[iot:ein questioned the Re/'.e ssity of C;h].5 tT ' GA 3.. `Grtl,.:ing i of"l,o a since the will l be con to student an C _11 )LS_ t'Ot;aq be a,Uvf �.'l...ed throu.11 O t.e "'4C( .2.1. • `fr. <old..us said mostly it :as pride: of hostinc Such .3 s7gniSic.-at education t pron:t:ion, jt •S4SA :7�g r:` } IMr T1710MM'T { � :;iNG'TES 01' THE ADJOU'. :iAT 71, 1973 H-CO:TiitYL M 3I`3` Page 3 Mr. Goldfus pointed out that if the first usage wasn't allowed, Truck usare the use o: the physical nears for the iie Anza day a'--fair wou3:d for moth or not be allowed. he su3restea that he ce:a back for request to neither use this location for student designed sign for the De Anza Day cotm::unity fair. "r. Goldfus stated the truck would be re^:oved from the property Truck to be between ay 9 and 18 to allow second sign to be painted. rezoved `•_ ibcr Sallan said she fell; it was too much advertising for Too much Ch17YsIer-Ply-_-.out: G;_d not esEentially a cozrz7vnity" event to allow Chrysler Troubleshooting Contest this .ype of advertising. advertisement After further discussion, '!ember Sallan moved that the application '_!otion Split; for a te::;pora-:y sign relati.- e to the Plymouth Troubies'Aontinc A - denied Contest be* denied. The second portion., relative to the }e Anza 3 - contii7ue�3 Day cop_::un ty recreation fair being held on Sunday,, June 3, to be continued. Seconded by ::ember :.einstein. AYES: I nbers Sallan, Weinstein and Vice-Chair man iei,aren ,:OES: Xe:~ber Koenitzer ABSMIT: Member Dressler ?fotion passed, 3-1 Vice-Cliairman :IcI,axen :notified the applicant he should return with di{verent design for De Anza Lay and the co-.mittee would consider it. Guidelines for acceptable siL-ns were given Zfr. Goldfus. He indicated Applicant if there were a srialler version of sign readily available to returning cover t:ie Plymouth Troubleshooting Contest that he i,rould return to t'he adjourned meeting o:: "Thursday, 'fay 3, 1973 to have it considered then. Mr. Cowan distributed a re__o regarding discussion for Thursday, _:ay 3, meeting. Member }:eenitzer coved to adjourn at 8:15 p.m. , seconded by :1eu6er Adjourn 1.ent Sallan. Unanimously carried. APPROVED: ATTES Chairman `C y Clerk s C I-'Y o "V me Cx3.j�{.7 10300 Torre Aaznue, Cupertino Page 1 Telephone; 252-4505 x Imm;TE5 Or %,;G.U.R AUJ9U';MED �XEMIG OY THE &RCNITECTMAL AIM SITE APPRMAL M111ITM OPT;iAY 3", 1413 .'F i"MM. LIZ.tiAE'e�l" C� `i' tAB.T:, *Ci 'EF:xIYR�cO, 'CAi 1F0:�TtA . i The meeting was conversed at 7:35 P.2i. by 'Vice-Chairman McLaren t� ..OIL CALIA - 2:=1mbers presents 13ressler, K eoitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Vice-Chairman. McLaren mbers absent: Tone Staff present: Msotiata Planner Robert Cowan Senior 'Planning 'Technician Toby Kramer Landscape !'architect Javes Coleman Recdrding Secretary Ruts Cox ELECT IO14 OF 0*1 FIC9RS Vice- Chairman '111aaren'anidotanced that as all members of the committee Officers were present, election of off ed:eg could` be'`held She caYl+ed for elected.: now.inations for chairman and vice-chairman to serve until April, Chairman 1974. Us. ,.icLareu Member Dressler nominated iezber MicLaren for chairman and *:amber Vice-Chairman Sallen for vice-chairman. :lember Koenitzer seconded the motion. :'s. Sallan Vote on Chairman AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan and Weinstein NOES: alone ABSTAIN: Member McLaren Motion passed, 4-0-1 Vote on Vice-Chairman AYES: '_Members Dressler, Koenitzer, .McLaren and Weinstein NOES: None ABSTAIF; MemSer Sallan Uotion passed, 4-0-1 i c� �Twtfraa�f �+tt•.�t r� ttn�yg� e� s� * +gyp, HC-81 MMS OF .�s1 lad�t� �J�vaR►iSdi a 7! S�l� �"n��# y a {. Page 1' Chairman UcLaren introduced Mr. Coleman landscape arefivAct City of Cupertino. Staff report .ir., Cogan poUted out this plan,is apse Len than. it. look , on the surface, covrering more;than deal atieg pl ate, median strips, etc. This plan will be abroad urban dssign tor this section of town. He then referred to the discupsion outline which was presented to the committee, 30' of land fir. Coleman explained this project would coven 30' of landscaping scapiag on on, both sides of Highway 9 from Homestead Road to Stevens Crete both sides Boulevard including mediaa and irr2.gation system. The side streets will only, involve selection and spacing of striet geese. Land uses Mr. Cowan pointed out that since it is not known what the laud uses not known - will be in this area, landscaping will have to be kept flexible, lie linkage of pointed out four areas, 4allco, Crossroads, Town Center and De Anga areas Colleges. ,Linkage of these areas was discussed. Side streets A prU3ection of a State trafficstudy calls for increasing Highway to link are 9 to eight lanes of traffic with turn lanes. The possibility of using side streets such as extension of Torre and creation of Bandley for pedestrian-bicycle areas to tie the City together was suggested. Overpass The possibility of an over?ass to allow pedestrian-•bicycle crossla$ of Saratoga-Sunnyvale :load was ,discuszed. Young citizer Uember Dressler had to leave so introduced his son. Don Dressler,,Jr. in favor of spoke in favor of having a bicycle land and pedestrian walkway included foot. & bike in the .proposed 301' landscaping. paths Separate Member Weinstein suggested a separate bicycle lane completely paths pre- separate from sidewalk and not paralleling the streets. It was ferred noted paths should be differentiated from lane9, with paths being preferred. Proposed bike Pir. Cowan reported that '_fariani developers are proposing a bicycle path ., over- path on east side of Torre and an overpass. pass The plan line was discussed rega=ding secondary streets. :fir. Coleman said only Seneral thinking had been done relative to this as the City had given hi::. base maps just last week. uildin set- Buil(ling setbacks were discussed, including the January .12 guideline backs adopted for northwest quadrant o_� Crossroads. It wa:; established guidelines had been set from Vreeway 260 to Alvea JrLvc-. t . v ��AA� TT qq !eA��S5VV a �y ...L_ kllS.7l '1�`,t -.. ys7+Ci.. k:..-ill 4:v�{t+.l ::.t�l ' 1.973 Is-�� .��.:`::. iriZav IIC-i51 Page 3 .. � ,. ._ : . _•�,• "�s mat''. _ . I was agreed that criteria Lu.!Aelines for set;back`ot`Iandscdp`fhg" Criteria to and buildings,on Saratoga-Sunngyvale oad u� to Alves .J�7ive should, be_,considered be included in the discussion of balance oaf property; ` Lr. Cowan noted there are 'some 1eZ�al problems 'to be considered fti Signing discussing signing guidelines. it vas pointed out some preliminary guidelines conceptual guidelines had already been agreed on, with low monument type signs being preferred. Nethods for removing non-conforming signs were discusses. The median strip is part ox the capital impro vement:pragra�n. � Landscaping; discussion was held relative to ways and means of getting the land to be dome, soaping planting all drae at the same time. This would .:5ure _' as, a whole uniform gro::**li,of plants. It was pointed out that future street widening and gre.din,-z on the east side would have to be considered before the trees were planted. Xr. Coleman said the medians will not be constructed im.ediatelyy ` ledians but will be painted in until widening; s •completed. to be painted 'daps of proposed lanes and median were viewed and_discussed. Saps viewed Control of ingress and egress on Saratoga-Sunnyvale oa3 was Controlling discussed. Deceleration lanes were discussed. traffic Regarding public in-put, it was felt there should be something Public more firm :.n the way of plans before asking for public input. it. Input was noted there might -be those in the conuiunity who are especially concerned about different areas such ds landscaping, etc. and :these should be given a chance to be heard. Ned'er Kosnitzer suggested publicity in papers prior to meeting to get the public input. A shopping center partly on one side of the highway and partly on Overcross the other with a overcrossing connecting them was discussed. it connecting was reported Vailco was proposing something on this order. shops '-x. Coleman showed two concepts Co-- sidewalks and landscaping. Sidewalk One was for a straight sidewalk such as in Vallco Park with a concepts double row of trees of approximately 30' spacing with sidewalk down the middle. This would work if it were all done at once so trees *,ould be of uniform size. The second concept was for a meandering sidewalk. Ur. Coleman showed meandering photos of a condo.-_aniws in Los Gatos using this concept. He pointed sidewall: out there would be grassed areas with mounds and trees. He would use s, variety of tree types (maybe 3 varieties) so tees could be planted at different titaes; this would also make for more interesting ® landscapin ;. HC-81 IMMU Ot THE r>DGGULAR ADJOUXMD 14AY 3, 1973 It Page 4 • Signs wr)uld This meandering sidewalk concept with moundinrs would be advauta€;eous show w-.11 to placing signs'. Visibility 'risibility o corners for safety factors wai discussed. 101 paths Bicycle p,.ths should be ideally at least 10' wide. Oyez-all The possibilit - of the City developing this strip and assassins t developing later developers for•these improvements was discussed Tie OdtitA coordinate planting rather than having each developer plant sopnra'ely. Benefits .•ir. Terry, the City Attorney, dropped in and was asked for his ivinion for al'. on this possibility. He said the street trees and lendscapiuE could be put in now with re mburs6ment being required at a later date. Ite felt this could be done, but he would need to research it. Property owners would bene:rit in:ter::-s of appearance and improved value of property and the City would benefit also. Security (requiring bonds) and maintenance are two problems to be considered. Contract Ar. Terry noted it would have to be made attractive enou&h to the required developer to provide an incentive. This would require a contract he- tween City and the developer. Plantings Member Sallan referred to the. 1teader :Digest article that maintained help u ith plantinLs along major frontages contributed siGnificantly to the smog and reduction of 'smog and noise. Type of trees which can withstand noise heavy traffic pollutida should be considered. __edian Lsedians will be fro--- 26' to 4' aide. Pre'erence Oas xpi?eessee not approach to have low maintenance approach.to the 4" median. It was.-suggested discussed looking into what other cities have done `n this re ard. Ile - Coleman said people who maintained these medians said the maintenan6i,v" difficult, dangerous and had proved td 'be 'a dumping ground., Different treatment in surrounding cities were discussed and it was suggested that pictures be taken o_7 these areas. Irrigation Chairman JcLaren noted that irrigation gust be carefully planned for these narrow medians. Tree types wounding taitti other plants under the trees was sugested. _relative to trees, non-deciduous types o' trees should be used; or if deciduous, should have good ;rnen e _-ect without it. Instant lawn Instant lawns were discussed. These are established within 3 weeks of installing. Spraying Spraying o= road plantia,,,s :vas recommended to remo, a rubber frov'a rucaintiended tires, exhaust _ultc?S and road scum +prom leases rather than sprinkling. = r" a Or TIM ids = .#2J3Lr 1,0 1973 H-MMAM sMETOO ra�t 5 Summary 11r. Cowan then sumay.aed. Bicycle and pedestrian links — "cycle path not wantec? an Saratoga-Sunnyvale egad e Building set backs sites preferred Signing - low monument tyge City entrance signs as possible all landscaping Consideration o: installing as sh at once Winding sidewalk preferred by co=Mittee Adjournment ;geeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.� ApPROVED: -�-- t i ATTEST: City Clerk CI*I�T OF Ile lu3 i0 Torre Avenue, CoPeita_no Tes«ephQne: 252-4505 ?fs.dU'PES £!F l B`r=ta1�TLt�i:. :- .i� '7:i .3 �.,,AT34.?ixTs�G'�`JT. RiT;IIT . A7' RU..V�IL CCtIP:ITT 0' t�,�1 �, ly'3 Lit 'bldt LZBRAI2i C CALI::O ITA Tile meeting was called to order by. Chalrzaau-"cLaren at 7 ,42 P.is. ,oLL CALL ilewbers present: Dressler (7:50) , Koenitzer, Salley (8t05) , Weinstein and Chairman :IcLaren ,iem;�,ers absent: Bone Staff present: Associate Planner Rooert Cowan Senior ,Flagnirg Iechniciau -ovy Kramer Recordan- Secretary P.utiz Cox Application iii.-51,G8Fj.17 of I-ticrom Item 2 on agenda, ppa, Inca Applicant requested continuance until meeting of June 6, 1973. ��cZIT's'Ei CO2�RS.1TC�+.TIOivS A letter was received from _:r. Goldfus, public Iniformation.0-Hirer Tor 1+oot ull Junior College District, requesting 5e �.nza i)ay. dvertjsing for fr.. Goldfus would not be present but Stasf has pro- d discuss at the end of agenda. posed plan and cou' nomfoer Koenitzer moved, seconded by member Weinstein, to add this. item to end of agenda. Notior carried, 3-0 OIL" c;02'�'.iJ_ZICATIJiQS E Mr. Co-van noted oue item not or. agenda. :ir. Blair representing Itel Corporation and requesting modification of site plan. ..,ember Koenitzer moved, seconded by Mee ber Weinstein, to add this iteri to end of agenda. :.otion carried, 3-0 j tic 82 MFJ'i'1"1S OF THE MY 9, 1973 H-CMCML METM-0 Page 2 a. APPROVAL O ' XI?WES nutoe eular meeting of April 18, 3973 way c6litiniied until qu6rum of metibers presefx. .:inutes of ttinutes of Regular Adjourned fleeting of ?fay 2, 1973. 11ay 2, 1973 approved 1,5amber Koenitzer moved, seconded by Merber Weinstein to approve minutes as present e as presented. if--rrber Dressler abstained. Mot.'_oa carried, 3-0-1 PUBLIC HEARMS s HC-51,078.1. 1. Application HC-51,678.1 of Empire Permit Systems (Exxon Company) requesting approval of landscaping, signs plan and a modification of architecture for an existing service station to ted at tip northwest corner of :-'cCiellan road and Sarato0a-Sunnyvale Road. Continued from H-Control meeting of April 18, 1973. Staff reporl Hr. Cowan gave brief back round o- application. The two items Needing further explanation were the price signs mounted on Exxon identifica- tion sign and the trash enclosure plans. Drawings of proposed sign, along with sign of proposed shopp=_'ng center located -to the norta of station, were displayed.' .ierrber Weinstein questioned useof plywood as backirkg bf smaller' price sign, noting that exterior grade plywood somet3ues checks. fir. Men Crum, '. 0. Box'24471, Oakland, California., representing the Empire Permit Systems, pointed out the committee had requested the si.dn '�e lowered and it had been lowered 2' `fees:,' 'nowt being 14-I'/2' in hai ght. The additional redwood Erame across the top of sign had also been added. The sign w:.11 only have 3 signs for prices and the fourth for grade. Ao blue eaip st.atr.p sign will be inclueed. .relative to landscar.in , three 13a boulders had been atided to tine f planter area in corner radi!.;s; he pointed out discrepancy on sayicag the two side tens would be identical. '-.elstive to trash en .lo-lure his will be metal paint c? o Mt& tile � c t . � e t si�,llut�ct board and batten rear of buildi ..g. A coed';ioa that jtiaiper, in. Lronc bed was to be., cra^gF-u by `W' to somet-►in� else hrd been o-:e-_Looked by a).plicaut, but w,ouUld be clone. MINUTES OF THE MAY 9', 1973 D-C :UL MEETING Page 3 Chairman McLaren spoke to condition to ensure landscaping-.:for the station along )-he north and west property lines be installed at the same time as` that oU tbe shopping center. Member Weinstein asked abouit illumination of sign. Discussion. followed on average foot lar^.bert of signs, �Mr..Crum said be would. be willing to leave brightness of sign subject to review by Staff. Exxon can turn sign to whatever degree of brightness is deemed appropriate. Member Weinstein suggested there should be some quantative standards of brightness set for future decisions, Member Sallan was apprised of.what had transpired previous to her arrival. St_e reiterated herdesire to have junipers replaced with something of more vertical interest. Member Sallan suggested the sign could be lowered even more. Mr.. Crum said he had already asked. Exxon to reduce "sign from' 16-1/2' to 14-1/2' to which .they had. complied. He would prefer not to ask, f or further change in height. Chairman McLaren Announced this was a Public Hearing and asked for ® comments from;the audience. There were none. Member Reonitzer moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to close Public Public Hearing Hearings. closed Motion carried, 5-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval to the City Council of Application HC-51,078.1 with the standard conditions, Exhibits B, F Revised, F-1 Revised and with the following additional conditions: (1) That the number of oleanders in corner planting area be increased to 6 and that the variety selected be a low growing variety of oleander with a full growth height of approximately 6'. (2) That the street planters next to the sidewalk have planting material changed to xylosma and Lily -of the Bile agapanthus and the numbers of xylosma be increased to at least 5 to replace junipers. . (3) That the City retain right to review luminous intensity of sign up to six months after installation. Member Weinstein seconded U., motion. e - f x F q � k .t z. ' HU-� 82 , Page 4 AYES: :Lamb e r s Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallaa,-Wg stein'and Chdlrmaa McLaren NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 Applicant was iuf6rned this would be heard be+ore City Council at their rest regular taesting on *May 21, 1973. 2. Application AC-51,011.17 continued to June 6, 1973 I r-51,215.3 3. application EC-51.,216.3 of 'Golden, :Jest Sig, Company (Villa Serra :lpartlalents) requesting exception to Section 6.061 o:_ the Sig Ordinatice to allow •the installation of an, addit.ional:_identifi.ca tion sign for the Villa Serra Apartmentb located-at themsouth"st corner of Stelling :oad and HomesteadRoad., Sta,:f report ;:'ti. Cowan gave bac'xgrouad.-nf appliaatioa The ,appli.zg►t ,already has three identification si p; 'on the site-whic...h he:.vishes to keep. .T Temporary sighs and flr_--s axe ro ba,removed. Sign a-dinance`Daly,,* i allows one double faced ;sign £or multi-familyy.zones. so apt Jicanst'U;. filing for sign exception. Slides were shown of the site and exiaeittS wrought: iron: sigas id3edded in walls. Permanent sign would be placed ,There tetTorary sign is now located one Homestead Road. In answer to "er:ber Sal j&.- , ::r. Cowan said he could :Find nothing in records relative' to tweouGht iron siggns. Request for exception its based on assumption that arou`at icon signs are permanent. Mr. Lyre Siait-h. Co:i2-am .Jest S:i.gn Com2any, San Jose, noted vrour;ht iron I signs hind been- installed at the cost of $900.00 and to rez)ve f,real would entail defacing brick`cc•all. Is. Smi.: h sa_d ap-pItcznt was ,7-*.__l,ing t-o renu e, �i�n o Stelling '_'oad and reri.o-v- tile• liLtlts undar the Lirou,,;�lt 7.roll Signs. ZC?:O,`J=d sign is 4' from Ground 'level. i e;)et•r '.'ei.astein pored pronoseu sign -iczuld be sewn approximately 600' and fee wrou�-I;r i-rot s--:bgls ...-id i?.L' co V`,-rarE. •Ph^,. :.i i)o13.Cant also s--id trees and 7:_antinc>.� 01- tvucted . rou_hL iYon signs. z e r s '.ice• d MHUTES OF UZ Imy 96 l9?`9T'QPT :. *fix, 5 33r. Villla;4£Xoxdts 14 . �c !� €_ �►: n � ithey need the sign for identification as well sty.7:�tt � rasped k. tenants. There is an approximate turnover in apartments of 702 a year. He a-aLd the project be divided Into two addresses and at that time they %ere ,given to understanti the; •aould be Eit3. tce 39 ** 4 ,Wiser,,21 acxe$,i ,. r, ... complex. La considered the ,arougbt iron sitnns as address,,��{ advertisement. + Chairman :wren said if exception were gted�;Y�uadgr , .Ozdiiiace 10.4, item D would be applicable to this request. She felt t�th ail the frontage on Stalling :.oad and all the frontage on Homestead ?,*ad wbich-.19-co VIetsly; separated•.byr'traf iip,slZp¢als, ;sl�;-p is...vw-eded for.=identi£ cation. tamer Koenitzer felt the appl*gaat.ualrgoy .bas .Urea .nice #rientifica- tion signs in the wrought iron ones, and these can be seen as far as is ;nBCeG8rB7Ty;. Xember Sallan said she I-e1tfthere is a dif�ereace betaaeen adverifa ag and directional purposes.,^ orbs, fp�.t .the.,propo ed Fs{,gm;; ,, $gb gl. promotional and tare are other ways to advertise. + Objected to site of pv9y,,*9,pd-.qIgq. Member Koenitzer noted sign would be 12" fro= curb and 66uizld be a bt3 •.se;6gste a suggss esi, a :.p, asing wayq..,Xo tuake a9 n?re tine f- 2:1q pleaa�ing,. wQ. e 41, FA *mrt at The applicant gave numbers and square footage o`-'signs;` on aaaiby. ; ,agppleres. After further discussion, Chairman Mcgia.;pa Ompu d} was a PtOUIc Hearing and invited comments from the audience. There were'non Membgg .wllas moved,. ecodg. !er rPr Public Kearinb ; Hearings. closed Notion carried, 5-0 Member Weinstein z;oved that Application UC-51,216.3, Golden es,,t Sign Company for 7,_'lla Sera ,Apartments, be ::eni•=:d and at the same tima enccuraae ar. Smith and Ur. L.ard to return ait`_ alternate proposal. There was some discuss oa as to wiether application should be'denied or continued. ::ember Koenitzer seconded .the no.t�_ua. 1 +,. �, � �s a ' a>:. t-� �Y•"-�, � "� , .e KC-82 UM VMS Cr Tar.. M 9, 10 ` Page 6 z, .e Lwmt yy� J. .. . ..t.. .. r.�t-d . .,.ox'...,:..•i� nr i,� "} :t'..tY{i.A n t">.t{4 i'S p��,ii{ The wss• 3infot�"` City c6dacil: Chaim NcLaren explained her no vote since she doss feel denial of sibs c.*JA create, a'bardshI f rr HC-51,316.i i +.- RApplicat?on W-32,316.E :bf t►e19e�gr'L"h�ir �Esu : requesting approval. of a sign plan for an facility r IIltoccateddy�atgthe west s3d� of Stelli.ng R,cad between Aomestead Road":.and .28W Fref.. O-. Stafs repor Ur. Cavan said the sign is double faced redwood with gaA 4attws �•' mounted on a coacrete base. The total height is 414" a 10' wide. Slides ire shown -of -bite dh& w ed„biga . • The sign will be positioned approximately 18' from Ati Ltd€I =�, 12' back froze sideway. There is no section in sign ordinance to cover quasi-pub-1114 e' IIle. Festl ors, 1633 26i-1:etdi`ftlti ,Su " chi&lae- sib beeir i�iesil�eierl..ig �,-eneral.-to •ca=tfor�`to''si�% d� aay:ce ;: � �� would retch the off-white color o: church building. Cuairma a MdLaren notch: the ground lights would not create •e +Ards. Mr. Chalmers said there would be a flooa light on each side of sign using praiably _a 150 ,watt b'anb, Herber Sallan pointed out sign appeared to be offset on base. ?ir. Chalmers said there was no rgadoa other than,an,aftistie-touch, YA-mbar Koenitzer felt with this type of pedestal base, the sign shoull be balanced. C::airman, itcLaren opened the Public ileari€ag for cou=uts from the audience. There were none. Public hear iiember Sallan moved, seconded by :ember Koenitzer, to close Public' ings closed hearings. notion carried, 5 0 :!ember Sallan quesciened necessity of si�,:i being 101". UUMM toy THE PAY ?, Isn 4-MMAS JMETI$, ` n :Seiab+ax'�eoftzGr'sac�"v`�S'to $end 8¢�gd► ' a�';�i�p�i�tfd��, ��' -z"v' cornditfoua g Exhibit F and the aPacial cenditioes s 'i'h4t the wood part o: tht sign be, svenlj balanced on base instep of. beatig`offset ae`0howa. ' (2) Jrouad level flood i jzhts 'fie' set so that tho Au i*t " ` w shine into street. Seconded by flauber tdeiaetain.. AYES Members Dressier, Rveai'tzer, sail"" Weinatein. ' and Chairasn iia iret! MESz- hone This appla.cation.ail be heard before. the City 'Council st its meeting OIL :ay 1,, 1973 § : S. .Application HC-51,118v YDb3 Ibnaco- £equdat'iag A 51,316.1 apr-cval of siin, tan cca$s sg, grgd ffig surd'13gf tSrig y ; ccnne�c..nn with a. parking lost addition to the rl.orentine titaurant -locat!Ed'at 1so3cr steveni Ciie-,C Mr. Coitan said the property is` located an the south sider of Vee Taff Meport Creek: Bouchard east:of Blaney AVenue. The :wd parking area 16 . currently a vacant lot to the rear of the, restaurmt compXetely land locked. Grading tias `.een approved by Engineering -itaffl% Hr. Cowan pointed out existing residence on back of site which appl.i-- cant proposes to fix up. Tld 33` landscaped buffer' td` the,:eats`should perhaps be more densely planted. 'there Vas concern aboue iiglit spilt over. Staif recommended eliminating; two stalls in back building and angling parking to conform to 23 a back-up mini*.tiac. IIr. Cowau noted miaimum landscaping necessary to make parking work. Zara Cowan also spoke to nasonry walls being required oa east and side boundaries. Slides were. shown of site and surrounding area, a photo of proposed lighting was displayed and nap of proposed landscaping was boarded; 11C- 82 `.` fffi+ g OF TIM -':!AY 98 19 6 Page 8 '_ir. Steve; gssaarx 0A$� :Sri �e�, ,.piat3 tlt s Sd arssiteot' 4e' directed ts•r�s�r�c wft�s st+a�i xyvW- d®" o� �at�s�s��a4rX PY •�,Fy�� ; i :1r. Gaaarro discussed the proposed laadsi4fi4- t Relative to the narrow 1z� driveway- U& an curb Gazarra said the drive must be used"for delivery tiic 6"to`circulates also restaurant traffic 'dap,planned to. circulate three pow al:o. . If Gore landscaping could be done safely and` i"till range gri e 4 ee,: the applicant would be most swelling to comply. " Via proposed 3' fence to the east was disausso- it;wga pOiuetee this might be to discourage,,parkitng in the vacant lot. Some type of planting along westerly 'uo• ndhiy Was`d`isct sad. !:amber Sallan spoke for more landscaping along front 9fderaa1k aka She suggeatted removing six, -%talls. It was ascertained that panting is already m�. >. Mr. Cowan su ggeated a> VI;Lr parking with a planting strip down the centerovide `buxlaf ng to sideuialk. ^a •ji'g �phis'GiQiiil E`7 1:51� pk31' , and p more landscaping. i':ember Koesitzer said a 91 designating one wad,entrapce; ,and,«exit should be clearly- snarbed `tgry circular trar4r,'Ao�s,3 rc c ;ate :s. aazarso asked_ if : lieur -of aiasoiry wall pA tls�s %ast oouncaryp a bond coulee be posted until zoning of vacant lot is d'ec�dec#. "iir. Cowan sad the City would be .making .a decisipa xegar4tag property,",tine, nest by August. He said it iras Gfty policy to der nonry` 'a�1s construction. ae areas where the; wgere questio4bie, a Yr. Gazarro spoke to lardscaping in the rear of the property say s the applicant c-as trilling .to put in whatever landscaping is required to bu:.ld adequate visual and sound' barriers. Ligating wn;,., discussed. 6,gsi,r applicant expressed his to put in whatever type was recommended. n' sad` he•4aould like to see lower lig tf poles with lwru subtle lip.}tiag;' peraap"s increasiug L 7at standard numbers. ^r. Gazarro t-en spoke concerring the house which will be retained at the roar of the lot; the abed-I ke building will be removed. This structure will '&Ae useu to fulfill requiramen't of County health Boar: requiring place to keep and wash trash containers. it will also 'be, used for storage of banquet tables, etc. saber Sal:an suggested iwvins_ olive trees from rear o buildin„ to the front of builds uS. ::r. C azarro said the trees were to try to and to appearance cF building. Perhaps other olive trees could be added to font landscaping. . ey :IYMUS J THE 'U&Y 90 1973 RAMnOL MdWO jy F #S� 11muber Sallan suggested intersperaing cstar jaswins with a ter < ' =" i��r. ='��"_""''ea�trea `,-. .,.#3E �d~'•r�tt�9.��- � fCd�t , , 9tk.c�r f; would suggest a tree type shrub Instead of the star jas&U&,mil f landscaping turns out t* be adequate 9 it might pro-elude fencing, She expressed her desire to see sdmethL*jj3O ed -4ft zg lyfttdrl ? girder. Member 11'einstein saLd he would litre to uee somwEa3:teindt ve: r , relative to the lighting plan. ' Chairman McLsren announced this va& a::Public-Kbaring and invited :., comments ''cor- the audience. Mr. Gilbert v`r6ssr lalld i-iellaow ,P,lacei,�G'kspreitiuo: .said be was ilam, to see upgrading of property. He questioned,uge .orf :3oaterey. seas along the back line. He suggested staggering trees to promote de ty� :I v Gazarro sid is e.of.:trees,emit create mange ce problem by haviug a vacuum area. r: Mr. Vic Luie-i. 40M 116' c place, Cupertino, said Its thought the 201 standards with U1 watt bulbs seemed excessively sigh and intense, He also questioned use of tae :Ionterey Cypress, and expressed his concern about trash receptacle. Chairman 1, tarezi note"a:pp11c'smt'bad been glVeza g del:i 'for • ,. bnbfer area$ lightaaag evisfon f°p'dssib1e-of- par' i 'b iso g one 'af �i*sildii� She aslcet ap ices 3E a eontidbi r a &d date a Ii Arddhfp: Applfcaat said he cuff-'anki ous -t'6 g area but would accept a continuance. Miser Koeditzer moved j 4ee6aded'tyr Membif `Sa ain;.:to ;Q1os >Pu lia talc]ic Hearin_ 3earings. .:.v closed - Motion married, _5•4`. .. Namber K.oenitzer moved to continue UC-51.,318.1 until the 'uext regular meeting of U-Conzrol. "lember Sallan aecoaded. the-:motion AYES: ?:embers -,ressler, Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: done Motion carried, 5-0 Applicr wt was co:�,limeuted on upgrading of this propertys . e ; ;w" X . HC-82 W M OF 'LIM ! --a, 1973 13- i�'d� imawd Page 10 Ch31 : tat`ak �,',� .�.. r ��°' tie at 14W;)' k. _ -:I tax t Uinutes of ai ber tl oenitzer'referred to page 4, last paragraph, noting tl�j halm April 18, variety was L►racdua¢w, :. : ,u lti73 approved as Nember Sallan said on page 20 third paragraph from bottom, the word corrected "nocIdUg should be.ch"gd& to ."noting" On page 12, Memaber Sallan said the conditions should be 3 instead of 2 with- the cauditicia that.:Vlant ,Varietyt donated as being tile` second conditi�m,:; i ember HoBu+itim move &, seconded by ;lember 4aLlan j to aptproVe s as corrected. n passed, IBC-51,211.1 6. ; APPI44 a�pp ova, raodifigat oA-,,af ,-I�ro gcture 3nReon"c is w the Casa J.M. �a ;9.A rOAPP �►ro uct- oc ore as ac nt toad +arlp� of and :3ary Avenue. S tair re por "t C61wan said th9,AMAMOAt,9OW104, W9volye4'i$4A-F 'P=a;e$r!, _ being converted to condominiums ;is X1 residences. The modif:Lodtiou is:..the ad4,iug of fireplace stacks to the roof of each building so fireplaces can be added to each unit. Slides were shorn,of complex, a .with :drawings of .proposedrifiVeplac6 stacks. He also pointed out existing heater flues. :Jr. Allen UeGrange, architect working with Sequoia Mortgage company, said the mortgage company was upgrading exterior A:d interior of build- ings. Adding fireplaces to units Mould male them ire viable. • Several means of covering and placing of stacks had been considered anti this seemed the best solution. sir. Ken Ihomas of Sequoia ::o.ti;age Company said at present tiaere are false electric fireplaces in these units and although it cost approxi- mately 1500.00 per unit to put in fireplace, it was worth it in terms of making units more attractive. f• � � a.�A� �L�yC3. 3 LPG �� 3� � ;Yk &'Y�,i �r��y:,_ �ry E ��f f% . .+t 1tim 's: be`r: t +faae u a Tut 'far etoria�, t�,. a each ux cnin garage area. Mwi== .:cyarow'a*lwil t.`ss; mutes tts aelectt ttat: lea . 53,3an r 2zexen8r oius tin sad since approval had al,rsady been given to convert to cond0=1ulums, he felt the request for fir4l8ee �edaitiang ;giber Kaox4t. er. s.afd- ht via s, .no9� ha gy about eErch tectur s, ai�cl tas against. p;klud of ssoke star on- �ainits.r �6&ese un3�ts.x�exe TIOt.. �e8�.$n ,CGr . 3repla C Irman; ':aLaren ;notto_,traffic paaees so rapi4l on fresst�xaq rl _ - , impact WOUld not bb too great• :kctber KgwiUgr ,po1Atad;oclt !ary Avataua will, ,be a.paiorti, ,sp��oa� De A`nza„Coll*ge- for; pas en to ;nf 5: Ta 1c . 2: ar tressler sstO ha 44s' b a on Atteplaces IYr. Dat range said uwaers,w-oul.4 nowt :be u.aY us a profit but �e trg$ a. . ro ,&et out.'_ Appl�tcatct feels the firepiare, is defiaitelq a eeliing" Pit.• .,.. Chairman :cLaren noted this was a Public Hearing and asked for con-en*_s aro% 04e ,audience. . There were none. :laniber. s ,ed .pp �laube#r,Y7einstein, ,to clpse Trubs is Pu dic dear- oenit2er� mo:aed second, Hearings, ing closed Motion carried, 5-0 :iember Koenitzer moved to deny architectural modification of Application HC-31,211.1. Motion died for lack of second. Plember Dressler :roved to reco=ead approval of Application HC-51,211.1 subject to enclosures Exhibits B-4, B-5 and Informational Items. I1,naber �7einstein seconded the motion. AYES: IZembers Dressler, Weinstein and Chairman 1:cLaran ti�ES: ::ember IZoenitzer Notion passed, 3-1 r o . 1. UC- ga KWUM W Ma CAY 99 1973 a-COPTAS Page 12 _ t ' BW BUSIMMO. t,� 7. Sal tail Comp, nuy requestfxg approval of � teffiposca t4gor dp'o'i:pnraryl iA. prb'arc�4ttioriaY' sd. ` f, t4� te9 pe:rit tsithin the City'Os"d6p'dirtii". " s Staff report --r. 'Cahr` sa d- 'thi.4"ia's•a' natidteA `pe roaibaz of then frog :'ts➢'"6 Co July 4. The Planning_Commissica hes previously determined,shot 'L•k$6 kind of marketing technique should be permitted, in service stations as long,as"c#isolsys at6 regultited. Ur. Noel Wheeler, JI64 Salvatori Drive, San Jose, said this" pio6oii6n would be covered by TL , ra io,eSan Jose Harcury and card owners receiving Zitei aEuire tUroeagh the mail. Shia is e. auival oaze--a=year'�'t3 .a. He di zpiaycal'-a-brochure covarin g, advdrtising hc"lps sent to Baca uervice station. He was proposing to use only a per'of thaWA aids. Thera are eitiat 'lealers a Cu-aeiti-no', with abveh' participating'is°`tihis program. After datt€dihe discussion,:iuiln 6,i D'tessler moved to appr<sve Shisi3't3$1 request for temporary per=it, fair signing for `tire sale grtia stion, 66M ,Ea; 15 to July 4, 1973. Sign permit to include the one major.sign,, promotion, called Type' I; s"ecOtlalary'sign pro:1aftiers, ar-1:1�t ypw t -, and three plastic sleeve covers for tiie stacl�.s called ��pe 3- and,. ttareis tt4'te "tttert sites chl ad Type 4 on �th�$f1r,'r. F: feixt~�r r: ccacl ;aa' 'that tiiia� cai::9as ora hive 'oppo.•`ti%o ty For z t`uke "rev eta and changing of thi4 authority after the tire sale prgmctf =statt:'s`'on iiay 15. : ecber Koenitzer sscond%4 the motion.. :"lotion passed, 4-0 Itel Corp, _,ic coWan said `d' request ha3 lieeri`rece?veei late-in the daj�Atkl4g for Itel . Corporatio, to be heard regarviag a slight modification' on site. :1:r. Jim blait oiWestfield Company displayed the original site layout and modification proposal. Itel had been aide to leas,.; a strip of land' from Vallco 'which would enable the applicant to add parking and provide better access for ingress and egress of site. mere would be no change'in laadscapin f_o;a that originally approved. Property has required space if lease were changed in future, but would move deiveway and landscapirig e>>er 26' but is same general position oa site. Y F 9, 1973 �► +• • `� .K� `*"" ' xx�2`'�� e , .%fter discussion, : Koenitzer moved that 00diUeratrom CO Itel Permit, Application EC-•51,075.28t be Approved. ..ember aressler seconded the Wtica. AYES: ::er,Hers Dressler,' Rowdtzer, VeLustain an G'ita sr�tt :ks.aren XOZSs :torte • lotion passed, 4-0 ansirman ::cLaren read a letter from Ir. soldfus, snf"'ation De .{.nza :►ap Offices, requesting approval for temporar;- sits pe=it. Request temporary is for a sign to advertise the De Anza Jay co uAity recreation sign per"�it fair ::ay 18 throu b June 4. Sign to be piaced on they cornar of Stelling road and Stevens Vreeak 3oulevard, and the size will be W x 4'. Senior Pla*ninet Technician.Kramer.Jwd_-.talked with Mr. Goldfus and she displayed the twpe o:: sign being requested and answered questions of the eoLaittee rembers. Heater "aoeaitzer moved approval of De AAza Day temporary sift permit request. .,*ember :leinstein seconder the motion. :—btion carried, 4-0 Member Roenitzer toyed that meeting be adjourned until the next Adjour=eat regularly scheduled meetins on ::ay 23, 1973, Seconded by :der Dressler. ._eetiug adjourned at 11:55 P..:. 1-btion carried, 4-0 APPROVED: Ch� A ATTEST: C Clerk A � 3 . CITY of CUPERTINO r , .;w E,. yx..� 0 e Page ti 10300 Torre .venue, Cuertiiio Telephone: 252--4505 ,.._ M-1,gUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETIXG OF THE IN THE COS t. APPROVAL CO2L`SITTEE OF' mt.Y 23, 19i3 , �. i., d,: C":TY HALL, CUPER'TINO, CA fj6RNIA tic r SALUTE TO THE FLOG : Baas C. 1led" Yo .order at 9-35 B.M. by Ctta3rman McLaren The rtie'et ing with the Salute to"the Flag. fi &OLL' CALL essle� tzo�. .1a am "Mjiibers present. Ar , , 4nd Chaimhn McLaren l Afemberaabsent Nona Staff present: Associate plainer Robert<Cowan i Senior Planning Technician Tobq^} , � "Secr��ary Gox�. APPROVAY::Off'' an _.. . 1973 , Minutes of Regular Adjourned Xz*;ting of May 3, Minutes were recommended for.apoval D�a t jon�catsied 0 s Regular Meetix4$"of_ 9"; 19y3. Minutes of Reg Y Member Koenitxer noted on page 2, paragraph 8, third line, "lynches" should be changed to e 3, -con dit ion (3 j , "hewou?d 13�Ce'the "word He also noted onpa g „ between review and intensity, luminousn inserted Member Dressler coved, -seconded by'member goeni ze%, to app ove minutes as coiLxected. :Motion catried, 5-0 POSTPONEMENTS: None WRITTEN CO`WNICATIONS: Staff member Cowan said a letter had been received from Udest erkdA- Valley Sign C:"u�aay, 'aPPl=cant of Items 2, 3 and to th on e Committee He could not be present tonight; it would be up to decide whether to continue hearing on these items or to confider them in the absence of the applicant. HC--83 MUMS OF THE MY 23, 1973 A-CONML MEETING � Page, 2 After a brief discussioa, It was decided to leave the items on the ORAL CICA�IS a tie PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. Application HC-31,318.1 of Michael bel Monaco requesting approval of site, landscaping, grading and lightigp.in connection with Ia parking lot addition to' the ipi4tine Restaurant located at 19930 Steuens`Creek Boulevard. ' Continued from H-Control ,Aerating of May 9, 1973. ., r Slides were shown of the site, and Mr. Cowan,-said the,.,application had been contlAued ,IA` order for the applicant t0 revise parking schema. Mr. Cowan, in answering a query concerning building on.rear-portion of lot, said the owner proposed to dress up building structure with paint, screening and plants. , A wood fence would be. erected also. With regard to IightiAg V Mt. Cowan said, the Traffic Engineer had indi- cated three 20' ,standards would`not cre' ste'a problem if the wattage was kept to 175W. There is more-activity at,night-and.,neigbborhood undeveloped except for homes to the south, so adequate lighting is needed. The parking plan suggested by`t " comdi ttee'pteviously had'fiad to be discarded- slnce three was a hazard created by cars backing into egress lane. Applicant was proposing anot$ermpl , . . SITE: Member Weinste . Liid the plan was better, but he was still concerned about first two parking sppces at ,entrance creating a.stacking problem. Member Sallan said she was concerned about westerly border. Chairman McLaren suggested that when adjoining propearty develops landscaping could be taken care of then. eMr. Steve Gazzera, Jr. , 1134 El Camino West, Mountain View, explained the reason designer did not attempt to install any improvements adjacent to the structure was because vehicles and delivery trucks were constantly ' scrapping either building or curb because of narrc;aness of lane. e LANDSCAPING: y g Member Sallan pointed out several things she would like included in the motion. Member Koenitzer felt proposed improvements were satisfactory. He { felt one gallon size plantings in most instances are adequate. Member Dressler was opposed to adding second tree in planter. 4 x _ r171 MINUES OF MAY 23, 197 3-1 i+Q*'Tf LOU MW 1�x Py _��. r � I EC-83 Page'_ 3 V Mem3 , 3n8e .0 suggestedcovet,�ets3�nd e$iGst�xf 3r house sas�a One, c• • ^ll �scji3ps alcag � s# He =t was alao,_inciined to go alongl with one, Inn s :ze pla�icing�. . � E The use of Monterey cypress along rear fence was also discussed with Mr,. .Gazzero. Member Sallan noted there is quite a difference between one and five gallon plantings of pittosporum eugenioides. She also noted if plsntings. adequate ,f-uture judg;meat-might determine. a coocreta;,�; barrier_ to be unnecessary. LIGHTING; Mr. Cowan .suggested Tr.a€fic Engineer .coalcl_warlc out 1. ghtAP&pad rn s' laa In answer to Aiemdber Koenitzer., its was p anted ,out ,ti a.gzep App yxu lights on structure and under canopy. Member Koenitzer questioned if there. were .any.».light, atandarc�s lanne4 �c�-F, front al bui3d�ing. Mr. Gazz`erm said only" lights on building`or if recnm ►epded, he would add ground lights in planter_ � Chairman McLaren noted this was a public hearing and invited comments .fram the. audience. Mr. Victor Buren, 10109 Mellow Place, Cupertino„ brought photographs taken from his property to show site ]. r►e n He.have the committee a tree. namt= cahi;ch .he. said a ngTsery,had,.re�cocper�ded,instead of the Moaterey cypress. Member Sallan researchg cbe.-,,suggested tree amd found there were adverse characteristics. Chairman McLaren,asked Mr,,Duren if ,he trail .an;V comments ciitIi regard to lighting proposal. .Mr. Duren. requested standards be as low as possible. Mr. Gilbert Gross, 10118 Mellow Place Cupertino, reiterated his feelings that tees along .fence should be of higher density. He expressed his concern_ about the light standards to apply more to day sight then to glare from lights. Intensity can be controlled, but height should be as low as possible. Mr. Gazzero expressed his oppositici to Member Weinstein's thought that perhaps standards could be 6' or 8' in height. Chairman McLaren noted a restaurant must have adequate lighting for safety factor. U c 3 BC--83 M1$wa OF TO MAY 23, 1973 at &'" l $°, ;u�fix# fart Page 4 Mr. Gazzero explained basic -intent regarding re<:r property was to totally, clear scea. The free to ' sh iciiid' 14sSlid, the existitig-°sttuctnre to ba used for stage so 'be c3eaded and mad6 *rt'seiltsble and painted the saw r` t`co as i3kfoir Chairman McLarian asked the applicant if he would bre willing eo plant along borders for deferment of masonry wall. The applicant expressed his 'willingness to do this. Member Koerdita& moved, seconded by I ember` Sal:lan to close jVbl c Hearing. Motion carried; 'g=Q. Aftbr eci mittee discussed several area's of. goncern in landsd9"— and lighting, Member Sallan moved to recommend approval of -A ppfUatj,oZ ' HC-51,318.1 with the standard H-Control conditions, enclosed Eshib1t A 2`6t he# sfth- end' the following "Aiilo fi oondltlons: (1) ` Commend the'applicant fo-t his,'f ine' up property. gYadifig'of •" a (2) Relative to landscaping: a. On west elevation change star jasmif�a, iegeunat°`piF to #t8, pittosporum eugenioides. b. On the eaieerly'eT fbn-oi "building, 'add juniper° turolasi"iir eact:`<& ree 'pla ner 'beds; a total'o five-plants... - r,.; .�.. x c. Border around storage facility to be juniper turol,psa plantings -V on dental; the rest "of,the' area it."the planting beds ta`'be'star jasmine, #6 on plan legend. d. Change plants designated # , #8 and #9 on legend tp five gallon`site. (3) With regard to lighting:` a. There are to be five lighting standards with maxi:--un height of 12' using mininum wattage necessary to aro- vide adequate coverage; review of light intensity to be made by staff after installation. (4) Defer construction of -masonry ;:all on east and west ele- vations of property until such time as the oroperLy on either side has been appropriately zoned by the City in the new General Plan. A bond is to be posted by the applicant for construction of such wall if it.be nQcessary. x t IT as D111=ES OF THE MAY 23, 1973 H-CONTROL NETT Page 5 buiLding,at Seax {5) Stote$e µ t.,. �siq;-'SsuCLut o: SCBge color Zo r+na� ch ens n I'le provided, sad 1 fencing as shoe an P screening-,Ue provides, Secondm-a by "lember poenitzer. ` �gembers ai Dressler, Koenitzer , Sl an, Weinste AYES: and Chairman McLaren NOES. None fied applicant this would be heard befoie the Chairman McLaren no ti of rune 4, 1973. City Council at its meeting tlallep.Sign Co�a►Paay�r@'pre _:� 07 5.34 of Yost v a 2. �ppIicat.1 on HC-51�. Unicorn '"A:�, e9 st appsava �.._. senting Palico Parts - industrial. ouiidiug located At the r'ign plan for a light Avenue. northeast corner of Tantau Avenue and pruneridge map, on the northeast Staff member Cowan located site oar City mapse,rcoufirmd=.,the corner of Tantau Avenue1 and;Pguaex#.+3ge w not, il3fua�#a sign. was completely within ordinat►ce- and Rj a glides were shown,of,. site aO proposed sigh.. 3 not in the audience. 4 Applicant was :-. Chairman McLaren opened the Public dice; There were sone.t: { to a brief discussion, Sssring for comments froiu. the -$! moved, to seconded by Member Weinstein, Menber Koenitzez close s Public Hearings' _ Motioa carried, 5-0 roval of Application MC-51, ' standard B-Control Conditions, including Member Koenitzer moved to recammend 1 075.341 subject to Membez Sallan. Seconded b}' Exhibits F and F-i• Weinstein- IV ES Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan, Chairman %L[cLaren None NOES; Motion Carried, 5-0 RC-83 MT `PES OF THE MY 23, 1873 H ROL XRETOG Page 6 3. Application RC-31,07-5.35 of West Valley Sij ca Company representing Valle* Parts - Unicoa "C" -requesting avpraval of a sign plan for a Y 'ittidbsb trial btilldfitg 166ated,anti„th6 yea_ t tilde ot�Tantau Ave- ~ltietwea 'Ptetinrigo Arreitne fisrtet,Forge'Ds2ve. Staff Member Cowan showed slides of site, pointing 'out`wrbere sign wrauld be located. Sign is similar to previous application with aye' additional sign on top identifying the street address. After a brief discussion, Chairman McLaren announced tiiis was a Public Hearing and asked for comments from the audience. Theme were none'. MemLerVressler moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public Hearings - tforion F carried,` 54 Member Dressler moved to recommend approval of Application HC-51,075.35 subject to-4itindard H-4antrol conditions,'ands Exhibiti P and F-1. Seconded by Member "Anitfadt. Motion camc3e8 " 54 k 4. ;Application HC-51 075.36 of West Valley S 0 Company representing information Storage System °�15.5:)?°vegaesti 'approval of a sign plan for a light industrial building located at the southwest quadrant of the interoection' of Tbntau Ave ud-and P'robek dgi Avenue. Staff Member Cowan showed slides of building and proposed sign. The cotttmittee felt:there were sct e' -*eeds' for d scuss oa with thL " y applicant on this sign. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to continue Application HC-51,075.36 until the next meeting. 't Motion carried. 5-0 UNFINISHED BUSINESS: s 5. Application HC-51,017.2 of Sunny View Lutheran Hone requesting approval of modification of site plan located northerly of and adjacent to Cupertino Road approximately- 230 feet easterly of Foothill Boulevard. t . _ s r MINUTES OF THE MAY 23, 1973 1-CONTROL -,•iEETING HL-43,. page 7 Staf€�;repert 'byrXr :,Gewaa showed, ttais .,as to, a he-;d iv8 ay .= 130 f t. to the rests Plan €os futase-,exFaAsica;(i►t se,Tl a c�ra the. main.entry=`driveway being, in, the some place;as one ptopRopa. Slides were shown of site and also,plans of Phase I and. II saowitig change of driveway. Chairman• ,K44ren ascertained.that heavy landscaping would replara current driveway. Mr. Virgil Carter„ representing Albert Hoov2- r,,Axr hitect,:rgaid the movement would be advantageous=to Hate resid6'zs,, Chairman McLaren pointed out. a change of ingress-->-and egress could be very critical and the committee did not-:ia nay way wane. to preempt a Planning Cc-mission decision. Staff Member Cowan noted the Traff.fc Engineer had g-iven approval: . f Mr. Carter answered Member Dressler's question as to.reason tor,- move by pointing out present driveway is adjacent to medical portion of facilities and they would like to keep traffic away from this area. Mr. Carter pointed out landscaping will replace existtng._driveway. Member Weinstein said he would like a landscape plan. Mr. Carter poLuted out the landscaping,had;,$een.app;aved� and,.the-same conceptq would-;be carried out in this area, When asked about continuing appji A action, Mr. Carter $aid,; the ; contactor is on the job now and they► would like to at least make the curb cut. • Qccugaacy is scheduled for. July .$.. Hejtaining landscaping by proposed driveway was discussed. Mr. :. < Carter said the applicant would be willing to bwve curb -easterly to maintain trees. After further discussion, Chairman McLaren asked if staff could go out and pinpoint curb cut 3' to left to save as many large. specimeat trees as possible. Chairman McLaren noted this was a Public Hearing and asked for co=ments from the audience. There were none. ?Member Sallan moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 5-0 i irk EC-83 MINKES dF THE MAY 23, 1973 R-COAL MEIMING Page 8 Member Dressler moved to approve Application HC-51 ,¢" .2. Sunny Vie.# Lutheran Nhm+a•'-dtodifIcacift of Pftahe; VI eomtriicttii --ds�hdi,bega , ap tdoed-by-thli,body ag OrevId" iaeir tit g = ModiiticatIot�41.1i 'fie l imlted';tc the retocati dit-of ctiib,eut foi¢ ingrdsd'a d'agrttss of parking lot as presented in Exhibits, A let Revision and A-1, subject to the following conditions: (1) Curb cut be reviewed by City staff and relocated in a position ew as to-preserve all of the-sp ectme€k trees on the building site. (2) Applicant will return with. a landtcap tig plan.to show the plantings in both the planting island. in, new curb cut and in the area in which the existing driveway will be-ittttoved. Seconded by Humber lbenittt:er. AYES: Members Dressler, Keeaitz`er, Sallan t is�steiia`°eats' Chairman McLaren NOES: None Motion, carki6d"T 5l4" ,. NEW BUSINESS Mr. Cowan ref erred- to etWlfteA Draft Reeso1vat3kOA f-Ves gn to trines for the Northwest Quadrant of Serate-a=Sunayv� 4t6ad";and1-St44�i§ Creek Boulevard. If the Committee so-recommended they would be sent to Council for f -fikl �dvpk-otta3� a _ Member Weinste1w,-who, was=ttvt "on Cor%it-ee,when gt�ideliaes` ae -: ' discussed, questioned variety of heights in signs. He preferred to have complete uniformity of signs; signs are 'to identifY'not.., to advert ise. f There was further discussion of signing; Chairman McLaren reminded the Committee these were just guidelines and when the, applicattt came in, the Committee would have an opportunity to review each sign. Member Koenitzer questioned having all wall material colors off- white or very light beige, ieelin? this was perhaps too restrictive. Light earth tones were discussed as po$sible alternative. a s OWES Of THE that she waa sancetaed about POUSS kiassber Sal7an noted tat to �ae seco thoughts about asjov fryutages �+'nich led setback requirements' ih and taectiOgs rman Nci area com2ented that aft hassl the e estg • Chas heat al it was rather shocking meeting of ASAC with . Staff :tenbet Cowan then a9ked for a s:1ecial w Mr. Jia Coleman to discuss Saich plan, noting this could sd sided. It Was agrEed the Committee %;ould meet on Thursday, included.31, 1973 at 7:30 p.m• questioned status of paPerracks in' front of Hwber Koenitaer q investigated greet 0fgice. Mr. Cowan said this was suttee at the earliest � he 11coa write a report for the Coma woul opportunity. at the ne was monitoring Plantings member Sallan asked if asyo with ivy• Member - Dint. project. Staff Member Sumer e$plained that because of slope the lawn had been replaced looking and of slope steepness, healthy Sallan not some of the giants were not very of the lasedscaping Plans. asko-d fore copy . The parkin$ lot in Portal shopping center caa$ also briefly dis cussed. r sday: �y 3l, adjourn meeting until '� ay31, prober Koenitzer am bar lan seconded. Meeting was adjourned 1973 at 7:30 P•M• at 10:35 Y.M• by unaaiataus decision. APPROVED: ATTEST: City C1 k i . -tic-as 1 Y CITY OF tv LAB® 10300 T+etace T8180008 Z Z- 5�5 *u THE Lxtahol t� �' ptn 2 1973, COMMIT ES JNy`G. 4®g CUPERTISO CALUOR i47' . .. k ages Opened the meeting at 7:36 p.m. r • Chaim Wit; Isinets gsent. , n#`faei m"Sa97. Members a'bst: �o� J� .� Staff;p sent: soci a hai? 3. b beIs `It Vag ste 4that ' tae �iinnt s a1. r N, :Y fti ets foir it 't e Mee of etes may 31, 1973• `<<' of Regular Adjourned � mV " ` to A[ember 'deteiacr a minutes as Presented. 66vaeA r" Ero„} YOSTPONF. TS: plltIHICATIONS: Platee uy OVAL COMMMCATIONS: �tanted staffr�s�t w said- staffMx, ut+ �Y lcatios,4 �' Member i�ra�eex -. trees' speic�led--on his �►PP,' to possibility of changing ' ttee,this- 6Vening might be aPPeagisg before tli '`t this. PUBLI'% gEARINCS: re tang e4a I�utlteran ,pCo�a°" q SjnVY% day care home 1, Application HC-51'apin of a r ertino ROgd`ApPsOxi- approval of landscaping, for a�en ton-0upl, tlno t. gacatsd northerly di,and"adj 230 feet easterly of Foothill Sonlea d mately ,, " noted that the committee had approved camas STAFF REPORT: Mr. Cowns and .. odificatiQn -afes;te o�e,tcondition had been that appllc t . form v »:'.x ' av 4.x �.*: �., �,max ,. ;e� ,.e 3.•.'3 "fa tam^'-r�^ , . e, �. � ` yxgs' r- - .mot k ,.�,�', K°r +n f r r.�� •'r"e'. `rx .�; n HC-g _ r MINUTES OF THE JUNE 20, 1973 H-CflY ' pb MEs IT INs'; page 2y r . r�aaas t {pr $x a_aegi ed laTads p "p3 mlar port on,of;.-side-where drive- way va&,being: .re?oa ted o, Slides were shown of different views of site, including cur', cut. Mr. Cowan pointed out where applicant was planning to plant two new Oak trees. a Mr. Lee Bold, 16492 Camellia Terrace, Los Catos, landscape architact, said he thought the colored plan. on table was fairly self explanatory. He pointed:out;= ?here lawn area:which had been the 94ginal dxlveway was being planted with dense shrubbery, and..two Oak tr.ees..; 4 Chairman McLaxea_ascertained .15 gallon cans would, be planted. the east side of driveway and 5 gallon_ aext: t® the fence. Member 'fiTeinstein suggested starting with 15 gallon in both eases to which the applicant agreed. Member,,�Weinstein.-questionel.,pbe-vat;��t of Ivy cover- -be used and F its density. Mr.,.bold mid ;his parte2ar variety �Txead;q@ rapidly and if planted any closer would cause problems in a few years. Member Dressler asked for description of beveral shrubs iai(tceted on exhibit-,_ He also felt- the larger;.A44 trees.,Mould ba$aa�ce .o�� the driveway. Chairman Mcha>rgn ;questrioned visibility of ingress and egress becoming a safety factor at a. later date. Mr. Bold explained the traffic islands which separated the traffic flow.would keep .thi;s .f ., eing a concern. Member Dressler, seconded by Member Weinstein, moved that Public Hearing t a closed. Member Weinstein moved that Apf'Aicsirion HC-51,017.2 be approved subject to H-Control Standard Condit iivis and as indicated on Exhhibie Also subject to the following condition: 1. That the two Oak trees at the driveway entrance be of a fifteen (15) gallon size. Member Dressler seconded the aaotion. AYES: Members Dressle?, Weinstein and Chairman MaLaren NOES: None ABSENT: Members Ko,enitzer and Sallan Motion carried, 3-0 '':x MINUTES OF THE JUNE 20, 1973 11-CONTROL MEETING MC--85 Page. 3 2 Ap'plicetion HC-.gl�A;75 - .3 of�d�,l �. �� roar P��, ra uestit approval,of �ti:te. aodi ficat ,ts � �a a4irm� d�� ►d l soaping iLv connectiorr,with tfie K ltou, Hot4 .lpcated gat;_trine southeast corner of Wolfe r 44 and Pruneridge STAFF REPORT: Member Weinstein, asked fir. CoVAR to ,go in 'P� b�cte ground of application and into a little more detail since he was' ,new to the .committee.. , Mr-, Cowan complied, not g the, f �it�; was in a Planned Development zone and had reeeired use.pa, ni� ,,:, Basic elements have been approved by City Council. H-Control was more involved at present Frith,landscaping. Mrc - Ccan pored that plan being show •was.apprroved:by H-Control and;parking imp�rn c teat were now being considered., He pointed. out th_ls ,.i.s tha $iGxtss�..phase of a three tower facility. The final parking has not been approve as .final parking:4eoand.,1or,,site pis-�nat� kpawn Member =We qstqin asia :use toad Che:.feellug-` thimg we ,chang3rngt ,the tixu$ so Mr. -Cowan further explained, fututre,. plans for sites Mr. Cowan then exgiained revised parking structure, which involvos two single level parkiu& stxucturea•:on- the: nart4,Wra, and,_Weft-te�Rt► frontages. The,secon&,'j:e_wl:.�s.> approxJmatel i He noted::the- mpottant:,as#ecr:+ this sd�=.the : echni�que°ue =.baX° the architect to screen off this second level of parking and type of landscaping. Chairman; -she had,Sat.-in_oXI, the Planning.Commission,.meeting.and this: had: been ,gone itito In great detail. Staff member Cowan noted at-art earlier meeting there.had:been.': concern expressed about service area on s,it.e.,ellowing 'sery e vehicles to be seen from Wolfe Road. The applicant has come up with design solution :for.this. Another concern which had been expressed was circulation with-- regard to off-site changes. Left hand turns- could now.be 'all:cwed on site by the closing off of some roads. The ultimate widening of Wolfe Road which would remove 12' of l;nndscaping from present 30' was also discussed. Mr. Cowan noted lanai structure would be changed from 3 levels to 4 levels. This has been approved by City Council. The exterior materials would remain the same. The elevator towers have been increased 12' above the previous approval to accommodate equipment storage areas. Another addition will be a boiler room which will rise 9' above roof of the toower. Structure will be visible from Wolfe Road and Hewlett-Packard site. It was noted that applicant had lowered grading as much as po,ssibl and -grading does function. n "F.Y, ?t^ c ..txH s HC-SS XIMTES OF TIE JUNE 20, 1973 R-COOWL HW=G Page 4 Nd&bfde' fhste1it stl6ned `if=laade apiiit—uvuldi.ba ef tine=:if Ware Rosa removed. Re noted closdatss-=ta`near i6ftifig structure. ' He ma dt to having diffl- culty undetratetid ttig 'Vhat the committee could do,4f vesything has been approved other than landscaping. Mt. Cowan discussed future plans and contingencies under, condideretion. Mr. Dili Tsagg,: arth?test; for Vallco Park, introduced Mr. Maurice Johns, Swan and Gedler to- shWat queetions of committee. Mt. Johns said there was 301 of landscape barrier around.perimeter which would leave i8l of landse.aping. Pruneridge Avenue would be note of a problem: because structure was, higher. With regard to parking structure-, Mr: Johns said the landscape-berm combination- for- dttucture would be: 42" high- plus 8-IV`for -deck. 6" on top for planting should comer: the. tops" of the cars. Gas Vill not be parked against structure on Wolfe Road. In 'onawer to Member. Weinstein, it was mooted the .tva level: parking was necessary. With the -numm►bea of cars projected on second -pbasai t there Would,tiot be enough, parking on site without the structure. The possibility of cage rental for hotel fac.11ities .and parkip spaces that ..vould: be:necessary for this service was discussed. Alswi�shuttle bus possibility. Member-gresslev said he, supported the idea of multi-level parking, especially-with`proposed landscaping and, beirming;.- In discussing architecture, Chairman.YxLaren :said she .va& concerned about boiler location on roof. It was explained this had been part of their 'building application although it had not been indicated on exhibits Member Dressler ascertained City Council had approved lanai structure .with 4 stories. Sliders were shown to illustrate Mr. Tagg's explanation of addition. Screening would be sand-blasted concrete same as other towers. Parapet of roof is similar to parapet of parking structure. With regard to boiler, Mr. lagg said the one would serve all three towers. Member Weinstein asked if there would be any quantative amount of steam coming out. The applicant stated there would be steam coming out of top of building under various atmospheric conditions; he assumed it would be on days of high humidity. Mr. Tagg pointed out the boiler would be set back halfway in structure itself and the farther back from Wolfe Road, the harder it would be to see. He said there would be no exposed equipment. owiii� in _ MINUTES OF THE JfUNE 20, 1973 H-CONTROL MFsE'PYHO HC-85 Page 5 Mr. Michael Printer. 1a dscape architac o thea,gaVe;&,detaaelrn description of landacap -plans, incXudi09 contpugrifti ;plaut 8,and mounding. He said 25% of new trees planted within the m. property would be boxed trees from 24" to 42" to give ilpmediate impact. Regarding service area, Mr. Painter said this visual problem would be solved by mounding and trees. x Visual problem of autos would also be solved by mounding. Trees: - will be on upper level of both parking decks; tree® to be evergreen Elms. Mr. Painter 'said if it was acceptable to Highways Department, a study was being made to the possibility of adding additional Ueda f to give a landscaped effect from freeway cuff-ramp. He was usi ' primarily evergreen trees that will keep leaves year round. Mr. Painter said the plans for pool area were still tentative but this area was so surrounded it would not cause too much concern. f In diacuesing possihilityof widening of Wolfe Road, Member ffilresaler asked 'if beaming and mounding were there now. Mr. Johno said' they' had two ideas for that area. First choice would be to maintain trees without lejing them; if not, mounding and shrubbery would be used to achieve screening at that point.. Planter boxes were then discussed. Member Weinstein felt 150' of unbroken structure was not very appealing., . Mr. Johns explained the reasoning behind this design and landscaping in this particular spot. Member Dressler said he could accept this idea and gave;U&3 reasons.. The architect, Mr. Painter, stressed his preference .-u simplicl.ty1 in the spectrum of planting design. The tower structure was reviewed. ,Chairman McLaren complimented the architects on the detailed presentation. Member Dressler moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, to close Public Hearing. Member Dressler moved to recommend approval of Application HC-51, 075.13, subject to H-Control Standard Conditions and as indicated on Exhibits A 2nd Revision; A-1, Ist Revision A-2, 1st Revision; i "; 3xi a . { FCC-85 MINUTES OF THE JUNE 20, 1973 B-CONTgOI, MEETING Page 6 B 2nd P viaiou,,z. 31,.-:1st elasi;' B�4j,Uelev3.a ; gy?,` isit revision; B-4, .lst. Revision-0 01' C«.ga .� 1 'se:l ent`tiYjtfie`'fo�` .b €ng';g`8itional conditions 1. Thatja plan illustrating the. boiler room and cooling towei"be presented to the City. Council indicating that the screening on these auxiliary structures 'are"iissad4k'of the same material that of the elevator towers, 2. That the -landscaving on Wolfe Road-be designed in anticipation of any future widdal tig of the street. The motion was seconded by Member Weinstein. AYES:: Members Dressler* `Weindteth, Chairman McLiren NOES;: Node ABSENT: . Members Roenitaer and 'Sallaat Votlon carried, 3-0 ` Chairman McLaren notified the applicant oils would he,heard Vdfoxe the City- Council on July 2,' 1973. l Le ` Iea1 `EsCae reques3. Application HC-51,058.5'of Watcer are 'ting approval of a sign plan for an existing office building located at,10171 'Soutth Saratoga==Sunny'Arale, -Read. -in' the Town and`-Cbuntr,,, Shopping Center. _ . STAFF REPORT: Mr. Coi at: -noted this regdr sli'ei`aa to install two'"37.5 sq. ft. signs on what had been the old Western Market building noes" housing two offices. The sign square footage, is at.maximum.ylevel,.apd basically the cannister is in conformance with signs in entire peniter. The majority of the signs iix the center, with the exception of' Shoe Fair, are black on white. It was noted that some of the signs there had not been approved and are being checked into. Chairman McLaren question the pylon sign in front. Mr. Cowan said this was a matter that would be coming up for discussion in the future. Slides were shown of the center. Mr. Cowan pointed out it was up to H-Control whether or not they wantid to keep the sign color. He noted City Council had approved the Shoe Fair sign which was a different color than the others. Member Weinstein expressed his opinion the center was a disaster. Ways and means of improving the appearance of the center were discussed. � E M1.-WTES OF THE JUNk 20, 1973 ,It-o 0Xc•TP,OL HECT1NG +Q Me er tt idt"ein as`ce tat ted thifetu e s of si a ► ' ctelead e01cdlaiinj sign sat. �.. Mr.' Tom Dunovan, Ad Art 4550• L g =c then signed 4 fi. Riemt er we ins,te n as"d why •ai sign,grass naeddd that would fake Sunrise Drive since traffic is on Highc:af 9 and sib would be clearly visible. Member Weinstein also questioned the intensity o4l. illumination. It eras ascertairnocf that it would be' less than that of an Arco sign. Member Dressler noted this was the result of a system that seeined to have gotten perpetrated by wrong kind of sign; be ever, the felt the cbmmi.ttee should be consistent. Member Weinstein moved, seconded- by Member Dressler to close Public Hearings. w '. 'Member Weinstein said he had' a lot of difficul.tj�W accepting too signs as`fie did not`see the-oei'essfity far is . -'=Bliseussiom was diso�a held regarding getting all signs down and starting over again. li=.R Gowen said the3t:-v etc`legal -signs unt 3 tb6'-*rdananae was changed. The applicant mention'edd-they were 'c6u6id-ering 06tting•is is side, door. Mr. °Cowan said this modffitat sn :would - vie to be actdd''Uposi by the- committee and�the second sig* coujd be" discussed then. Member Weinstein then moved to recommend approval of the sign plan of Application HC-5i,058.5 subject to -H=rvcsntr'ol Standard Coliditions and as indicated on Eihibit*F and subxject -to he following add ftioo: 1 conditicn. 1. That there should be only one sign on the site facing the `. Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, frontage. ; Member Dressler seconded the motion. 'AYES: Members Dressler, t,e_instein ud Chairman McLaren NOES: done ABSENT: Members Koenitzer and Sallan motion passed, 3-0 Chairman McLaren noted this application would be heard before the � City Council on July 2, 1973. 4� h r yy x:c HcAs KNUTES OF THE J= 20, 1973 H-CONT116L 1►I TYli1'G `X'> ' Page 4,1VA 4., r:ApplicatApp 1C-:5LA50.2 of. rank o ,t ca (Cpntinegt4 � r�vice Company) requesting approval of landscap.ing� grafnII,: !. gtigg and signs for a cormercial building Al hinted"a pprox�c:ate y 300 feet west, of .the intexsection of StAven.q Creeks BoulevarCand a Saratoga-!;i4nnyvale" Road an the north s� cle af. Stevens Cre� Boulevard., STAFF REPORT: Mr. Cowen put drx,:ings on board, noting ,property involved was the Saich corner. lie noted application 'conform'e onformed with all guidelines except signing. It was noted that during last discussion it was suggested it might be desirable to have Saich family retain an architect,,to come"up with comprehensit+e signing., .Mr. Boyd was retained but the Sa , h family wanted to wait until they found, out who theiz major tenants ssotild be before having this done. Staff felt that guidelines gave-enough flexibility and did not quite;agree with necessity of having an architect,for single tenant. H-Control could still pursue however if they felt it, .necessary. Chairman" Mclareaa"-noted it might be difficult to come up with size of signs at this point. Member Weinstein did not agree. He felt a size could be set and.if, a business wished to .establish in. Cupertino,, they would have to conform wi*tiv that regardless, of usual logo. z Mr. Cowan then,.gpve,background. of Saich'_J; ck.. He noted there,.w'as no problem with grading and the lighting �.°as approved in guideline. With regard to signing, 14r. Cowan noted applicant is proposing to retain existing .ground sign. Since this committee was, interested fo.,maintain- ing lot; profile.,signing, this could be dis�4ssed. It was explained to Member Weinstein what was neant. by logo and pointed out that to order to approve all signing, ' there would have to be an exception granted. Slides Were shown of structure and site including existing sips. The total nu-ber of signs requested for the site, including the logos, is five which is also more than the allotted square footage; two signs are allowed for a commercial building. Mr. Larry Carducci, 600 San Pablo Avenue, Albany, C,,.Ufornia, 'gave basic landscaping description. He said they had tried to conform to earlier suggestions of li-Control and zig-zag parking landscaping o increased parking facilities. There was quite heavy landscaping between building and street. ' Mr. Carducci said Bark of America had three policies with regard to landscaping: (1) everything :gust be evergreen, (2) trees must be a minimum of 12' high and (3) ground cover is planted on basis of 9" spacing, giving ,a very effective ground covering as quickly as possible. Member Weinstein complimented the landscaping with regard to line of sight, noting cars would not be seen. lie then asked about the circu- lation pattern which was'explained by Mr. John Boyd, 454 Forest Avenue, Palo Alto. 3 Y 4 } k tn� 0r THE 20, 1973 CONTROL . �e 9 Member Weinstein questioned several plants and Mr. Carducci ,,dOq,crihed tqm and explained ?Why Phgt,va#ety.We, c Rsq;%«,, It was noted these was no problem 1p,.8;pdlag• . Member Weinstein questioned !the wood,,poles, of proposed lightino standards. It was explained! this had -beeA chosen for the sate. I He also questioned height and intensity. Further discussion vRs , held with regard to lighting. : Mrs Anthony Andrich, Continental Services, 260 Fifth Street, San Francisco was asked if applicant:,would consider taking the sheet sign down. Mr. Andrich said according to their calculations the. signing meets requirements of square footage$ He explained site 1 of each sign and .hoes they had arrived, at total. Member Weinstein said landscaping uas good but questioned having so many signs. Mr. Andrich said,thia.,was a .policy of Bank .of, America introduced -many,year-s ago. Member .6einstein asked if he had to select bet`.•een.Bagk of America,spelled .out or loco, which would he choose. Mr. Andrich'said they keep the one diat' spelled out Bank of America,. " After further -discussion, it ,taas s�uggasted keep ix ]4go on,the, building and lowering; the pylon to low..monument prof'ila which Cias been shown as desired guideline for Saich .block. Mt,, Andi h .noted building was !eased for 25- years ,and".their agreement .included 3_. i, x certain signing privileges. Chairmmn McLaren noted -her appreciation of cb nge in building, appearance. - R Member Weinstein said he would only,gd for low monument 'sign and one logo. He also brought up the height of light standards again,. Member Dressler said this had been discussed thoroughly and 1$' had ' been allowed. Member Bressler then suggested approving landscaping and continuing t , the signing until Sank of America had been contacted. Chairman ilcLaren said she did not recall any specific height of sign being stipulated and she advocated vii:i.bility of signing for people in business. With regard to staff recommendation that the short segment of the median along the eastern drivewAy be installed and landscaped at this time and a bond for one-half of the median, the bonding was agreed to. t Member Dressler moved, :and Member Weinstein seconded, that the Public Nearing be closed. Motion carred, 3-0 k.' • f f y {q ;� ..s v,. ..� F ... �""-:� � . � `, .i tix•3 zN .'Xi�r{ 6% F :.*fi�d} KC-gs MINUTES OF THE JUNE 20, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Page 10 Member tdeinsteiit stfoned t#iLd-vedifn aftip. tie a 'Ae$the°r tB -JOAlit of landscaping should be included or continue the whole thing. Chairman XcLaren said since bonding bbih# mhii,¢ `this aeuld'•be no pt obra. Mr. Carduccf said the~ st9rip was such a small area, that Due to irrigntfn$ requirements And' conceptual puns on a whole, paving would be best -for this area Mr. Cowan said that irrigating system would have to be guaranteed befora they could get A building permit. Mr. And-rich said this ways ra •.tegal problem, since Bank of America could not approve something that° i.i not part of their development. A discussion was thei: raised about whose responsibility thistportift of the landscaping and improvement would be. Member Weinstein :coved to recommend approval- of landscaping; 'grad-`fnt'a'nd lighting subject to H=-Control Standard Conditions and- as indcad � Exhibits C, E, and -r and subject ;o` the fo'llbwing i.4&16ional cdndd>tiofds: 1. That the signing be continued to a later 4ate.' 2. That' the' app�icant shall `inst_ad l the tight travel ane de otee . . within the adjacent easterlyr easement, ancY •shail2 pzovids agr� . ' foiaance- bold` to guarantee_ completion of oney4i•al-f-o.f the coin+ ''' st.ruetlain and landscaping c'f -the median strip within the'. `+ northerly and easterly roadway easements'. - 3. That the applicant shall additionatlly fully'improve the ; Stevens Creek Boulevard entrance to the easterly easement" including complete landscaping of the entrance median. 4. Thait an irrigation system be installed at this time in the ama1Y median strip on the easterly easement of the site to ensure iutire r ro landscaping. ' Seconded by Member Dressler. AYES: Members Dressler, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ABSENT: Members Koenitzer and Sallan Motion carried, 1-0 Chairman McLaren informed the applicant this would be heard before the City Council on July 2, 1973. , r MINUTES OF THE JUNE 20, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING RC-85 Appl3cation -51<;209 ,$ of Harry-W-., Falk i{Any'-XOtittl�''a$i1t-}± ; xeaque�t�g°�p�p+ a9.-mf��d3f icatsbn'of;site c~a�8:a�ch$tectu�re fmg +ss¢fatf g c ahoy l' beildie�glocated at the =odrtdes:�bf Greenleaf Drive and Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road in the Rancho De°Afixtcn Sh6r pp `Center: STAF REPORT: Mr. Cowan iwmmented this-,was a unique bullZirrg. The appligation was requesting the addition of a storage area of dpproi matoly 255 sq. ft. to the rear of the Any Mountain store. The roof overhang exists; It was noted other stores have: storage areas in the rear. Slides were shown. The same material would be used on the addi_; tioe as is .on existing building. One.elevation:was commented on- since this area;would.be exposed to public from.Mariani Mini,'-Mall. Mr. Randal J. Falk, P. 0. Box 460, Cupertino, sail there would be kit) exterior ADoxtr. In viewing the slides, garbyage.on. outside of building was voted i and discussed. Mr. Falk said the building should have been design differently to include garbage. He also noted if new zoning wenk through the adjacent property might be xesidentiall'aaCa Jeaee would have to be built. Different ways .td.:haxtd-le the .garbage problem mare -discusvedu , Mrs. 'Cowan noted in Los.�.Gatos there::f_s a new:oxdinance which-�requires merchants to keep garbage: in enclosed: place. In one case ;a::'. separate. structure had .to be bu-3It ;and this, had; proved very. effective. „ Mr. Falk said it eras not his :request really, and: ha Baas ,not.,,% in a position to :add ,several hundred dollars 'worth, of. strueture to house garbage at this time. Chairman hicLaren asked Xr Falk to be cognizant of this problem and to try to resolve it. Mr. Hoffman, Any Mountain owner, said his request was for additibnaL storage area and they were not high garba-e users. After further discussion, during which Chairman McLarcn said most property owners had been cooperative and interested in improving the appearance of their property, she said she also felt it was not fair for Mr. Hoffman to have to provide screening. Member Weinstein said he felt the city should consider revision of ordinance. It was not fair to require one tenant to provide service for allother tenants, but Mr. Falk as owner, should be responsible. He said he, would like to see a plan that with a slight addition would enclose the garbage cans. - w, ; EC-85 MI'�[iTES ®F THE J�INE 20, 1973 �i-CON"iROL MEETIb)6 Page 12 Awk Member Dressler coved: to recommend approval *E ehe a$- a an& arcbitectufe modification -subject--to H-Contrat Standard Condieiogs,and as indicated on Eshibits A; A-1, B and B-1. ` Secoaded by Mgmber Vainstein. AYES: Members Dressler, Weinstein and Chairman HeLaren NOES: None ABSMiT: Members Koenitzer and Sallsn Mo t is n carried, 3-0 UNFINISHED BUSINESS: Mr. 2ubrycky (Application HC-51,002.5) Tract 2769, Lot 47,, La Cresta Subdivision, Alpine Drive , spoke to the staff. about ahmging the trees as stipulated when his application was approved. After a brief discussion, it was the concensus:o£ the committee that a chance should not be made since this had been fully discussed when the a;?plication had been°considered. NEW BUSINBSS3 Chairman McLaren said there had been complaints chat the 76 Station on the corner of Stevens Creek ,Boulevard and Bubb. Road:had what appeared Lto be abandoned or ,junk cars at the rear of :the;,station. Also Ghat major overhauls appeared to be a part of their business rather than the grease and oil lubrications-which were:allawed. These violations are to be checked out by Staff. Another violation noted was that of some residents. oa ,I. ".'-Y-Lane where the cliff backs the houses, -some ovners::are bid ldiag,platforms. It was to be -check6A to see if these are in violation of ordinance. ADJOURNMENT At 9:35 p.m. Member Dressler Loved, seconded-by Member Weinstein, to adjourn to meeting of July 5, 1973 at 7:30 p.m. Motion carried, 3-0 APPROVED: C irman ATTEST: y 9 City Clerk x.: t r CITY OF CU ISO 10300 Torre Avenue, Cup Page 1 Telephone: 252-4505 >�- o;* " 'la '',i� ."o �"?11 #� APPt Jy ��/J,V 8�tis��Ct►bi=z�Fc11�AWis•�;,��g�ti tZ z;f� $�:i CITY HALL, cUfiS T. o, CALIroixiA r The meeting was opetfed' at~7 36 p.m. by Chaif'mad:,Vcidieit " 9OLL GALL Members present: Membeas;Bressler. Roentzer '`e ,�:�5�?, 148,: isir ;` Chair:_.n McLate Xtimbets absent:' 1 one Staff present: Associate Planner Robert Cowan Senior Planning Technician Toby Framer lftecorA retdey hittb Con :APPRdVAL 'O rilNVM: ; Minutes of Regular Meeting of April 18, 1973. After`a brief discussion; Ii Sias the conedho"is bf-° c itneek tMV these iitiuttes bade been •ape d .at a pribi-keetIng-r- ..a r. POSTPONEMENTS Staff member Cowan said item 4 on the agenda slfridV1e'he Withftimo Auer revietaing the application, the staff �iotea ralgn e +aepa :; would be required. The squarq 'footage of--t-hd stare° daes'itotASupport. sign area on store now. Based-on review of ordinance, fir: ,tag:llock� would need an exception For a'tion-conforming s#-64 .Tt wad sugq6sted applicant file for an exception as change of copy could not be approved on as illegal sigh►. It was ascertained that Mr.Blacklock was contacted about the -sign : . having been put up without proper approval. Mr. Blacklock, owner of Econorty Imports, was present and asked to he heard. This is the fifth store he has opened so he was aware of sign ordinances, etc. He said he had approached someone:L"i ^_ :y Hall to see if the sign would be approved and was told it would be. :his was done before he had purchased existing bucket 'atd`tas the deciding factor that caused hiss to buy the sign. Mr. Blacklock said he had been told to submii 10 copies of change •®f.cdoy which would go before the boards. Re said Mike Shepherd=had •told :hi.m it bx'F�' t r .t,yr` ,y ..`Yk 4 Ryr'✓ ,4r} Y ��` ' t * r HC-86 MINUTES OF THE JULY 5, 1973 N--COWR.OL 2 Z11T v Page 2 not--be, in:color anon .that VAs the-d�st:'�Se had, �ti�e. ,. i armed a his sign was; Mgg,*4, NW he ka� being asked ,tics i�17 -�� coples. Member Sallan asked in what way he sign was a top4osformi�ng. She was told that only 72 sq. ft. of signing Wass allowed; the signs now existing were one in the front which was 96' and one on the side;eqhich vao, Mr. Blacklock pointed out cost involved of purchasing sign bucket. Chairman McLaren ascertained. that '?articular bucket sign had been up since 1"9, Member Dressler raid tha committee dtd realize the hardship to applicant, but the committee had a ;asponsibil:ity to have things done right. Chairman u McLaren pointed out to the applicant that there had been conflict,.with a Councilman becau&e of the colored Shoe Fair sign being allowed in this center. , Mr. Cowan pointed out ;the applicant was about 11" over the ordinatA a allowance and in order to keep the two signs, the applicant would have to file for an exception. Technically speaking, the sign should not be up right now but in view of circumstances, the staff,-,f4t 'he shQ,o.L.d,R,be given a chance to -et an exception. Member Weinstein said his ,recc�endation would be for'the applicaiii to comeback 'for-,-a sign that W&yin conformance...Mr., Blact:lock said,thIs was the problem; he had come to City,Mall to get,a�rprQval tefatre buy#�p�,�caas. In answer to Chairman McLaren, 'e said r�is infarmatilon was given to him approximately December 14, 1972. Member Sallan concurred that since the committee is working to bring all, signs: into; conformance, it uvuld not -be in the.interest of the, QUY,to grant an exception. She felt a more solid rcecommendatfon .would :be to have the applicant, t-ry .to bring sign -into conformance. Member :Koon tier, said this was -his feeling also Member- Weinstein pointed out to the 'applici pi that the trend for signing is toward smaller signs. It teas the recommendation of the H-Control committee that the appXtcastion be withdrawn to give the applicant time to come in with a reasonable change in sign. WRITTEN CONDIUNICATIONS a None ORAL Ce*=NICATIONS: None PUBLIC H '!!RINGS I. Applization NC-51,320.1 of Brite Line Neon (The Karpet King) requesting approval of a sign,plan for an existing commercial building located at the northeast corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard and RaridyAane. e r �r Mmus OF THE JULY 5, 075 i�CO �e ;".�5 '�€� {t r '�� p�:Y , SIC-06 Fes :a�.��.t "�' � i-c#�.. lean - Page 3 Before the;staff Member- mpliuhtedw the fiKF staff on including the location maps. Staff-"report: Mr., Dow sa 4oted- this-.appl*caUo1', was fat�c.R p 3A,;sq r,. .,. foot sign to be located on existing furniture-ca ;+et star. ,, There, is an existing sign .facing Randy Lane. Slides were shown of store and existing signs. Mr'. Cowan noted that the applicant is allowed two.sigw on the building � _ bu would certainly like to see this typEs of signing eliminated. The applicant has indicated leis willingness to delete .sign facing..Randy r Lane. . Staff member Cowan said there were several paints he Vould like to stress: (1) A condition of approval ehoulc sllmipate much,, of in shown; just to reaffirm ordinance and (2) ,tie committee should "" look at the application from the point of view that" .tf this`bi fld is carved into other stores there could be two addiC�..�nal" ehops. Type of sign allowed could be trendsetting. He na. $d.tt bras ; straining to call this a shopping center; but the 'ignirg, should still strive for uniformity. A discussion was }geld concerning where the sign would be placed as ® there seemed to be conflicting evidence in exhibits. The desire to have the sign keptbelow top of parapet waa exptressed.. Sime the applicant was not present, Member Koenitrer recommended to move item to end of agenda. Seconded by Member Sallan,. r Motion carried, 5-0.. 2. Application HC-51,088.17 of Microma, Inc. r%--questing appro,sal of lighting for a light industrial buildiw, located in the West Valley Industrial Park, 10260 Bubb` Rr.,ad. Continued fro H-Control meeting of April 18, 1971. Since the applicant was not present, Member Sallan recommended to move this item to end of agenda. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. Motion carried, 5-0 REVIEW Or CHANGE OF COPY ON SIGN FACE 3. Federal Signs and Signal Corporation (Goodyear Stores) requesting change of copy of an existing sign located at 10932. North Saratoga-Svnnyvale Road. G n? Y IBC-86 t1NiITE$ OF to J'ULY S, '!' Page 4 .: Staff member Rzamer Saye a brief description of apg►licatiarp, eapfsg it was o 'Wa mdttet of chaitiik sign oil frahi of=�&6ifi"46 Bess# O dgea seer than Bill Deane, using the same ems. ember Vafnatilm exprebsed his op3o�6n`,thb,,t t 'woi1d•'dt4nd ant' much i`o; phereas the ex tiug`sign'bli d. ritld roof a" 'tMuding coloring. He asked if this was a legal change. -It wAh pointed oidt there tas a blue . Goodyear sign on side of building facing Highway 9. Slides Care shown of building and existing sib: ftsr a brief discuasion, Member Roenitoer moved to approve -sign change , as requested on item 3 of agenda. 5%,-:!onded by Member Dressler.• Member Sallan asked if there was any altei'iaat1, did it have to °iie blue? She had no objection to wording, but dial dbjeo#-to' the blue. Cbgift&an L, aren pointed out the sign would be_'vie only going south on 14hway 9 and she preferred to have both signs- the same color. AYES Members Dressler, Koenitzerr and Chairman McLarett NOES: Members Sall*ft and We3nstetn Motion carried, 3-2 UNFINISHED BUSINESS.t S. Applicatidn-KC--51,199.2 of Newrtan #rap tiies (fit. Cali. & Brae" requ6sting approval of architecture`and sign modif3iatun in connection with a proposed neighborhood shopping center located at the northwest corner of' SaraLnga-Sunnyvale Road and McClellan Road. Chairman" McLaren noted she was involved with W&vman Properties on another matter, she'•could abstain from discussing this application. Staff report: N.r. Cowan gave background of application,. In April, 1973, approval eras granted for the shopping center known as McClellan Square. The applicant was noro returning for modification in the roof color and in the ground sign for the shopping center. The applicant has reduced the ground sign to the dimensions requested in April (14' high x 10-1/2' wide with McClellan Square identification being kept at 2'), however, the signs for Ralph's and 5av-On have increased in height ratbcr than decreased as requested. These should ?Iave been reduced proportionately to 2'6" each rather than the V 10" as indicated on new plan.. It was also pointed out in the staff report that the two signs are now an aural shape mounted can a redwood bac';'ng rather than the tan material previously apptvved and both sign faces are internally illuminated as before. 'r i77, �.��y.,W,, a a x. _,. r€ < o mI uns op THE JULY 5, 1973 H-CONTROL.= U $?_ art, ; . KC-86 'age S Y+ Bob Witted, 19,P91'or Ad he had un49!P the oom ttee d.pte'kerred the rill bawl:� of" fiber, b�sciig. $t teas`also 'his understaiYeg that .the ova ' can for both , aims had been preferre4. .so: he had obtaiin�d iv�On'B germission tag use the ellofical shape' for their sign. He said the letter► would b� , the same size regardless of shape used. Member Koonitzer noted it was the original approval's intent to shrink entire sign, including, size of letters. Chairman McLaren read the motion made and approved with regard to, this sign at the April 18, 1973 meeting. Member Koenitzer reiterated it was his feeling the name of the Squar should be emphasized rather than that of the tenants. Member Sallan suggested scaling sign down 30% which would bring ba¢lc' portion up giving a more open feeling. Member K,oeanitzer said it should be about 6' at bottom' . Member Dressler said he thought it vas a different style of shopp3 center sign and certainly down to 19V profile for the size of the ` center. He suggested it could be mounted on brick monument rather than two legs. Mr. Whittled said he felt this sign was. qus*te small € when compared with existing: shopping. center signs, . F Member Weinstein pointed out that in reducing sign, but not letters';" the sign was no longer in proportion. Be felt the inter of approval had not been carried out. Member Sallan suggested perhaps the committee should sees a new drawing of sign made to resolution specifications. Chairman McLaren asked abo•;.. time factor. Mr. Whitted said they had: plani on grading the next week. He said again that size of sign for the square footage of buildings was minimal. Member Koenitzer said he assumed the building signs would remain the same; this was a free standing sign on the highway. Member Sallan moved to recommend applicant Lring back to the committee a drawing that represented a full scaling down of sign in proportion of Resolution 275 approved April 18, 1973 with particular respect to ei .ptical signs of Sav-On and Ralph's Market. Mr. MUtted said they had changed backing to conform with committee's wisher and signs would get so small that Sav-On and Ralph's Market would be insulted. Member Weinstein seconded Member Sallan's motion. Mg, M HC-86 M114UTES 0y THE JMY S, 1973 Hy�' Ear Page 6' Member Weisstela then questioned t� intensity_ Of U -9 �#,�oiais�f, 00 a�,tSigns- el Member "ttr a it eti bald 'thU Ofo'i�a ,31 �� bs t�3ce r� it could ba tetsgtzd as it bias is+ oxd c Mee a 4a 'a faked if sf '�,nte�ity -of other signs oo,4.4 be,ittud�ed 'aica�* a guid 2,iit ssq�i red ich'6ou ld iticlu#e illumirAtion. inte"itiy 'ft aw ordineia�s€. A vote on tbhs motion was then taken. AYES: Members Dressler, P.oenitzer, Sallan and Weinstein NOES: Done ABSTAIN: Cbairraan HeLaren Motion, c,- , 4 9-1 Cowan them remi'ifded cr�--ittee allout sacoud aspeet of appl:uAi"; color changes. The applicant bad asked to change roof ti>.. color roffi FeO to hark �xoVd. *it. Whiffed showed aamplda of,roof materials, phi a�in"s`out which had been appto ed and"which they warp a6kii* eo p on bp i�iitgs• ' Member .Koenitzer asked to see a drawing of.the bu$ldings._ W. $,�� said a11. buildings in center"wauld barge tie dirk roof.:" xp ait►e : 3 to Men►bAr 'Weinstain why the chap-,p was being-Iimde: Member`Itderlitzer moved to avorave the pro eta c�aa tes'.i ► col r �t Sne for center with th's tile too.f-being No .Is,m i tle te'd+c+obd' s$c ie'be vae natural se:-,kin No. 717 and wood posts being stain No• ''13, Member W iasteia s+`sconded the mbtioa. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenita-r, Sall.an and"We9.n8tein'' NOES: Tons ABSTAIN-' CI.airman McLaren. Motion carried, 4-0-1 The applicant was informed � ai:t3' io*ui":1 appear before the City Cotrnbi'j. on July 16, 2973. M;. Whitt asked when he could bring in the sign agair :':or approval. and was informed at any ASAC meeting; the next two being on 1�:1y 1S and August 8, 1973. 6. Application HC-51,211,1 of Sequoia 11ortgage Company requesting a continuation of the .;ign plan in connection with the Casa De Anza conversion project located adjacent to and westerly of Mary Avenue directly opposite the intersection of Lubec Street and %ary Avenue. t y MINUTES Of THE JULY 5, 1973,A1 fi ;, y.3� d{� `$6 -'. Page 7' Staff gam: "w'.. CO .pOdnt at_bu; 'th# 4UOV9db fdoldv4d, by committee ,e0li'er but no ccp n s hey qen su�bntf tie sai that .h porti<-ii-61 dpp2lcation 'waa coast quell: k a ,txf iwe s*gi`was then exha ited. Sign will be located'at`'sdd laeftost `dri ay of Casa De Amza. Member Weinstein said it was an interesting son but he, didn't under- stand it. asked for renderitg. Questioned lattice work on top. Mr. ALlasn DeCtange, architect representing: the applicant, said it' was a typ6 of t0eme being used throughout project. The. lattice work wAs vssed' tbrough 'the project over walkways, etc Member Koenitter noted he felt uneasy about "superstructure. Mr. DeGramge pointed out many more itees than had been required were being pl wted. In anew w to Member Koenitzer, Mr. DeGrange said•'sign would be aoproxim rely parallel to Mary Avenus. ' Member' -Sallan questioned type of`plantinb that would be arrund it. Mr. DeGrange:complied by dose: bing'plants being used. Member Weinstein questioned planting on sign trellis. Mr. DeGrange ® said time. Mines would be used only on trellis work inside of"projec't. Member Weinstein then moved to, recommend approval of HC-51,211.1 subject' ro Standard H-Control Conditions dttd Based on Exhibit F list Revisions and F-1 as submitted by applicant. 'Seconded by,Member— Koenitzer. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, 9allan; Weinstein atzd Chaiiman McLarea NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 The applicant was informed this would be heard before the City Councu on July 16, 1973. Since the applicant for Application HC-51,320.1 was still not present Member Keenitzer moved to continue this item until the next meeting. Seconded by Member Sallan. A brief discussion was held regarding suggestions that could be conveyed to the applicant with regard to the committee's feelings on preferred signing. �. ,...., r � y, .ems ?$a'°%t�', 6�# t � ;�1` ,:�t�° '.'�% • � s EC-86 MINTER OP THE JULY 5, 1973" Page 8 2. Application MC-51,088.�17 ;of I41croms, Inc. vequgst#. a ron81 of �.lg snag Rr a' 1 gbt, 4*4�1 buildIn 1;cat d lei. taut Malley Ycidsastzi.tl.ranch, '12(�0; ubt Rand. Co�asnie glom H- to1 meets of Apra The applicant was now present. Staff report: Mr. Cowan noted application had been continued to get more information from applicant with regard to spill-over of lighting proposal. Primary concern was to preclude lights from going over into college campus. Copies of fixtures and approximate beam penetration were sh-1t There are trees in back which are 8' now and will be 10' in a year or two, Member Weinstein questioned lights on sides of buildings. Mr., Ray Martin of Microma,. 10260 Bub& ,,Road, Cupertino said he would lake to point out several things. (1) With reference to putti the il$l n on standards either at boundary line at back of lot or in the middle of parking lot as had been suggested, his -cost would triple. (2) These ., are no larger than 500 watt lights; are not spot lights or tight b lights. Pattern is 3.)% intensity level based on manufactu$er's .di $ion angle of fixture. He explained the pattern worked on an exponential",g6rve. A discussion was held on pattern level. Member Weinstein said he was not concerned with wattage; needed to know what the intensity was. Chairman McLaren asked if the staff could get same intensity information and was informed that perhapm Air. Grigg might have some expertise in this matter, Mr. Martin explained the fixture would be angled .down. Showed sketch of approximate downward angle of lights. He said they were concerned about i.a:oir neighbors also. He pointed out that buildings on both sides on same side of street were using similar fixtures with naked bulbs. Member Weinstein asked if it were possible to go to low mushroom type lights. Mr. Martin said the purpose of the lights was to provide security for -corkers of swing shift going to their cars at midnight; to provide a safety factor. Mr. Cowan sut,gested a condition of approval might include requiring applicant to get letters from adjacent bushiesses regarding light spill-over. Mr. Martin printed out neither business on either side were working swing shifts. Member Dressler moved to close Public Hearing, seconded by Member Sallan. After further discussion, Member Dressler recowaended approval of Application HC-51,008.17 of Microma, Inc. to the City Council, subject to Standard H- Control Conditions as applicant plans to illuminate his parking lot according to Locatio� pp q 1k � :'q v Mum= OF 1013 * 4L MMnMW KC-86 •A set +. ..0...a. rvs,��a. w .. r d,: ,.3N ..:._;L �.'� {a.A.�i�� ::$.. 4 Map and Exhibit B let Revision with the casual comment that if Hats applicant ever,$ itsa x th Clty :wouW gives the: :X> '^ 'mvek-bliddrAte AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan, We&taro : -14 Chairman HeLarea NOES: None Motion carried, 3-0 The applicant was informed this would be heard before the City 0-fincil on July 16, 1973. NEW BUSINESS: A discussion was held on complaints regard Ing the..�6-fie at Stevens Creek Boulevard and Bubb Road. Slides were shown of use tires -Arucks and autos parked in the rear of station which would seem to uphold complaints. It was noted the worst view was from Stevens Creek Boulevard. The next discussion invalved the observation platforms noted at previous meeting being built in back of homes on Lindy Lane. Staff member Kramer said this had been checked and these are decks and there are permit'=- `them. Chairman McLaren asked for pictures to be taker of the ones which were of concern to her. She felt there was a definite safety factor involved in some cages. Memberftsia&tein quepti©raed sign approval on previous application. It was noted the signrdn prise Drive would be discussed when the application was made to put in a side door on Sunrise Drive. Member Koenitzer raised the question of news vending machindET4,i% front of the Post Office. Ms. Kramer said she had talked to the City Attorney. He said if the committee feels it is detrimental to the city streets, a recommendation should he made tc-oty Council to take action and request they be removed Chairman McLaren noted she had talked with Postmaster. There had ' been complaints of damage to car doors. The Postmaster had asked for suggestions on type of permanent holder and expressed his willingness to work with the city. Member Koenitzer said he was approaching this as a citizen who did not like to see these machines on ;a public sidewalk. If the Post- master wanted to put them on the Post Office property that was all right, but he would like them off the public streets. ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL C ONMITTEE MINUTES 4 of 12 01/03/1973 - 12/19/1974 EC-w MMUTES OF Tim JULY 5, 1973 E '% Z-anim Page•1® Member. Nuenitzor thw .rec evdnk regaest g:t3aa= l r a news vending machines racdrt�m•geblle�;siea f lcsSce and wherever else is the city they are located on public sidewalks Steed by Mdm er W AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan and Weinstein. NOES: Chairman McLaren Motion passed, 4-1 ADJOUILBOM At 9:15 p.m. Member Sallan moved to adjourn to meeting of July 18; 197?. Secosaded b AleAer Nowitzerv, ,. kit catrrd;�: AIR APPPO : �. ATTL'.ST: VX City Cl rk f x CITY OF CUPERTINO -�� t "�,1�,1M, 1$&^87 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Page 2 Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES nF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL ` * ` SJ TE APM--i t.' COMMITTEE OF JULX 1$, 1973 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY H=, 'CUftvfrio, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG Chairman McLaren opened the meeting with the Salute to the Flag at 7:30 p.m, ROLL CALL Members present: Members Kuenirter, Sallan,"Weinstein and Chairman McLaren. Members absent Member Dressler F Staff present: Associate Planner '-wbert Cowan Recording Secretary Ruth Cox APrROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of Regular Meeting of June 20, 19'71 On page 4, last paragraph, Member Weinstein wanted, the minutes to show that the applicant had stated theri woula'be steam tomiiig out of` top. of building under various atmospheric conditions; he `assumed it wo, d be on days of high humidity. On page 12, paragraph 3, Member Weinstein noted that Mt. Zubrycky had not been present. Member Weinstein moved that minutes be approved as corrected. Chairman McLaren seconded the motion. Members Koenitzex and Sallan abstained'.' . from voting as they had not been present at the meeting. Motion carried, 2-0 Minutes of Regular Meeting of. July 5, 1973 On page. G, paragraph 4, second line, the second sentence should read "The applicant had asked. . . ." On page 9, last paragraph, it was noted amber Koenitze.'s name was misspelled. Chairman McLaren noted on page 2, paragraph 4, it was only one Cuuncilma who lead objected to color of Shoe Fair sign. t r # HC-87 MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H-COAL MEETING Page 2 i Member Koenitxer moved to approve minutes as corrected. Member Su lam seconded,the W;:ipn. Motion carried, 4-0 POSTPONEMENTS: None WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None PUBLIC HEARINGS: ' HC-51,320.1 1. Application HC-51,320.1 of $rite Lite Neon (The "rpet King) requesting approval of a sign elan for an existing commetcial building locates at the northeast corner of Stevens2Cree& Boulevard and Randy Lane. 0.,ntinued from H-Control meeting of July 5, 1973. w Staff Report: Mr. Cowan noted the application had been continued from the previous meeting because the applicant was not present and there had been questions of concern from the committee. Staff had been directed ta; P;ify the applicant of these concerns which had been done. Mr. Gowan b4iefly recapped the application by showing slides and pointing out these areas of concern. The sign was technically correct in all aspects; size and shape ioi:relation to future signing on building was main concern. Mr. John Basher, DBA, Brite Lite Neon Company, explained he was representing the applicant. He explained the applicant had purchased the proposed sign about `6 months ago for another location and in order to avoid the outlay of $500.00 for another sign, was trying to utilize the sign on this store. Chairman McLarea ascertained the sign would not extend above the building but would be even with the roof line. Applicant would be wiping to eliminate other signs on wall and parapet. With regard to concern of future signing on store, Mr. Basher said the whole building was owned by Air. Charron and it was doubtful if he would give up-any part of store. Mr. Basher also said Mr. Charron had sign on pole which applicant would h..ve liked to have also. Member Weinstein questioned sign in window. Mr. Basher said he could not answer for applicant. Regarding sign placement, Mr. Basher said the sign would go flat on the wall. Member Weinstein asked about hanging the sign from the parapet. Mr. Basher said this would be a hazard as the edge of the parapet was only 11' from sidewalk; a sign hanging 5' down could create a problem. HIM)TES OF THE +rVLl 148174V Member Weinstein asked about another sign thafiwaid&14:idjoa6 ftlefi aesthetically. Mr. Basher said he was trying to help the applicant mid spding maotltie ' $50€+ 08` afte 'hosei the s�taY oz� q ; , u G six mahths. Member Koenitzer felt a more attractive sign could be des#ified which would be longer and more narrow. He did not object to size, but the black and'white� letters :did`�ttdt!apoeag -to='1 1i. Member Sallan asked to have the location of sign on building pointed out. Member Weinstein questioned If the sign had ;gin illuiminate&interior'. I and if it would be left on all night: Mr. iSasher said it 'w8s=ilY hated but would probably not 'ke left on alI-bight. Mr. Basher seld. if`,color was prefdfted, tyre letters could be palfked � red. Member Weinstein said the difficulty was not with eolrrF esf' I#a letters, but the whole concept of aesthetics of sign and ghat would happen to-signing for neat of --building.,.x Chairman McLaren.ascertained the'sign on 3dy'`Lane would'be removed and painted to match the rest of thib-building Chairman MuLaren noted this'Baas-`a IPt#blic Hearli,,-and iiiiitedco teittat from the audience. There were none. : Member Weinstein moved, seconded by Xember Sallan, to close PublicY Hearings, 6 `Motion cried, 4-0 s a Staff member Cowan said one suggestion would be to issue a temporary ' permit for this particular sign. m J After a brief discussion, Member Weinstein moved that doplicet'ion`, HC-51,320.1 be approved subject to standard H-Control conditions and according to Exhibits F, F-1 and F-2 with the very specific condit oo that additional signs on the parapet and red sign facing Randy Lane be removed when the proposed sign in this application was erected. Future signing for the fascia along Stevens Creek Boulevard is to conform to this sign, at least generally. Seconded by Member Sallan. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ABSENT: Membe:r Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 T HcG-v MURMS OF THE jULY ay Chan..-yaen McLaren informed the applicant this would be heard before City . � �Auiac:41 0� e�ut.6as19?� , H 51,230.9 Z. Appl�.catiota tHC- ,230-9 at J,_D Q�aderl •�� 6 � 1Gas�+�r Stomp Store) requesting approval of site and architecture for a.co;gefriel building located at the southwest corner.of Homestead Road and Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. Chairman McLaren asked about air conditioning unit,. on exiet_im bull, ing, noting this wau to be reviewed when any future building added. Staff Report: Mr. C.aan said the application was for ,a proposedagddition , s to Homestead Square adjacent to PW Market. The original application was for Site and Architecture. Afte% review it,was determined- there was a parking deficit -on site In terms;of:,ab©eat 46 spaces, .,It,.had,been;,noted that prior to approval parking should.,be-resolved and,.,applicaat had brought in revised drawing to extend parking to the west. Since plan has been sub- mitted, the committee would-be: approving;a modified are itectu►ral.ate and grading plan for ,center. Slides were shown. Mr. Cowan pefntad;.out proposed sqh mgj9r fv. e expansion, voting location of Green Stamp store. He also showed the y site plaq submitted �whtgh -would age a4d4ng 46 porkipg,spa 441U.4145 2 or 3 in the back of the bu-1414g, Laaadscap ag plan was not Included, but.would-be.a contiqnatipu-of=,what was already there. } site: The.loading platform is back and driveway aloRg,,,gide; for.,tintt circulation were discussed. - . Z Architecture: Xt.was,noted that ,if building was not added on it would be a drab elevation facing west. Mr. Cowan said this problem had been dis- cussed with the applicant and he had agreed if there was.aq future expansion he would be prepared to resolve it in some manner. Chairman McLaren noted future addition would hide the; air condit$ong omit. In looking at slides of existing architecture and landscaping in front �)f store, Chairman McLaren noted slides had been made before some of the landscaping had died out. These plants should be replaced. Member Sallan noted also that trees were deciduous and in the winter the only landscaping was the ivy covering. Chairman McLaren commented there was a huge amount of parking.atrd she did not understand why more was needed. Mr. Cowan said the LngineerjA&Depart- r meat is conducting a parking survey. At the present time although the square footage of bui14*ag used for storage does not demand more spaces, the ordinance does require so many spaces for so much square footage. There could be a lesser amount needed by the time the center is completed. r f , MIMffES OF THE JULY 18, 1913 4- .TPHOL'METING k " RC-87 Page `5 Mr. Cow�i pointed out t:he Engineering,bepartmetit had said_grading would not 16'a problem. i aber.Weinstein ascertained there would be garbage 'and`t'rash`end]: sureFs iv the rear. Mr. Cowan noted that although signing is not part of the application: the applicant should be addressed with regard to future signing to cee horn it would fit in with design. Member.Roenitzep said lf' the building was to be connected, he did not see how there 'could be any other type than what is already there. Mr. J. D. Vanderlaan, 28 N. First Street, San Jose, made the obserVaj tion that in a development of this kind, you never know what will be gotten for the rest of tenants. He said it was not planned°'to leave a long blank wall which would be unaesthetic and uneconomical. - The intent is to make a good looking, uniform center. Mr. Vanderlaan said while the parking was not needed new, they would go ahead- and%bdild '`' it. He pointed out plans for 6V to be used for a serf es I of s> aYl ' ` sharps which would face the 60`' Green 'Stamp store. He also pointed: _ `� out how this would hide the air conditioning unit. The air ed ditt ing unit on proposed building would be behind the parapet. 4` ® Mr.-Vanderlaan said the ultimate plans-for shopping center called fbr 60' driveway to be continued all the way to the west and a street deeded to the City of Cupertino which would be built when the center was- completed. In the interim, it was more economical to Out in a' driveway of temporary nature since this would be replaced with ' permanent parking development or buildings. Member Sallan asked Mr. Vanderlaan if there was any possibility of increasing number of planters from front of building to street line. - Mr. Vanderlaan said they would be willing; to go along with any recommendation staff made. He pointed out too many islands create a parking hazard, and they would prefer to see larger areas rather than so many little ones. He also pointed out they were not an integral� pa t of Payless and if there was a deficiency in landscaping, PW Market would keep theirs up. Member Koenitzer said he would like to see temporary landscaping along west wall of Green Stamp store; something to break up long line of wall. Mr. Vanderlaan said this would be a wasted operation and he hated to spend money on it. Portable planters were suggested. Mr. Vanderlaan pointed out this would cause them to make a wider driveway for trucks. In answer to Chairman McLaren, Mr. Vanderlaan said they were now in discussion with users for an additional 22,000 feet. HC-87 2dTIMES OF "JE JULV 18, 1973 Page 6 Member Sa)lan pointed out in situations of this type plAnts In boxes have been used..aaad. at time of ;f JlY oastraction .theese. can be p1qu _ S? axc;,ft is sutedbl:j. The committee is concerned with inter$m #pRe4w Meaaber.Weinstein ,excpreseed .concern about entire,parkin8,.la t l+ndec4a $• fir. Vanderlaan pointed out center is only two years old gpd.in accord with city requirements. He repeated the intent to make the center landscaping uniform throughout. Mr. Koenitter said he recalled some discussion reg;re.mg ,more landscaping and the strip was made 5' wider than required. After seeing center done, he wouli look for even more planting but for an addition ,of one row of parking would not feel justified in asking for more planting development than exists on present portion. Chairman McLaren questioned requesting upgrading of existing landscaping. More,planting would .make it more attractive. Member Sallan said she felt the landscaping was very sparse and pointed out tha;c landscaping In-,pq#.ing :lots can.be most a:tractive-.and:-;not be a hazar4. She pointed out on .Homesttead Road frontage only,,consxete. atd cars are .,seen. Landscaping plan. should be brought ,in or;at -least on -upgrading of planting. Member Weinstein expressed a concern that upgrading Iandscapi;g, might make it look lopsided. After further discussion regarding landscaping, .aaroquest for a variance was considered. Mr. Van;erlaan said they would have„no,objectioq, pgF.a stipulation that this is the last.partial applicratioan.:without a nomgdete landscaping plan. Mr. Cowan pointed out,there_is no ordinanc4 stipulating,,-of landscapi> g; it is strictly a matter of policy. Mr. George Meu, A.I.A., 553 Mission Street, San Francisco,. answerka Chairman McLaren that he felt. the signing should be the•same as on existing PW Market and Payless. Chairman McLaren said this was a Public Hearing and asked for comments from the audience. There were none. Member Sallan moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public Hearing. Motion carried, 4-0 ;IC-51,230.9 Member Sallan recommended approval of HC-51,230.9 to City Council with the approved wl standard H-Control conditions with Enclosures E.&jibits A and B.aa4d the follow- conditions ing additional conditions: R v ... PAR, a .. MINUTES,OF THE JULY 74EZTTG? r. HWY 40 r53:r 114 RC-87 -.JV Vest re1eVa<L'3edw . d>14# ��=4iet��t��:s � final elevation,..the wall shall ally. Pester,bnxe a hS sib w&atwly :oral -b t p*A&k -building tia? aotttffi a : me t}ps -tsf cv r rest p sirtb cstth ys the suggestion of Hollywood juniper; minimum number of • . . ��o€,F ems`tioz:b�: :� � � s . ,._. .. . _ .. „ ... .. 3. Additional planter in the center of the proposed parking areal-to,�cbntai t.aft pmergaleeii, type 'of traaij, ;. . 4.; When .resat :of:,tenfe5t 4p:Val rpa, t-hz lippli;cant,.is-Ito brivig x In -full landacapAnr,,plan for::parking,areas-as .v*ll m frontage_.:along.)Homeatea&jtoad. Also, ncluded ,in approva3:.s E ttibitlA-1 covering:14ghtig+.4_gra& x 1ng aosl extension of la taping ah rarl g.:; 1 ioie waa areeohda by Member Koenitzer. r� ATE Members K6ettftzef,-xSaUar4.-Weldstein 'Chairman. _ 1,, 3.ai OMo*a .. Ronk 9 } ABSENT: Member Dressler The applicant was informed this.w9bl- `be beforov the`CitydCouncil,, on August 6, 1973. 3. Application HC-51,284.1 of Ad-Art, Inc. ;Fireside Thrift requesting. appsOval,of`_a sign pies=faa a+cmhme�rcia] baa�Eld.: ing located on the north side of Stevens Creek Boulevard wesEw oUBlaney;Avenue. Staff,Report.: Mr: Cowan passed exhibit: of.proposed'sign.around.to the- committee: -;He said..the signs were technically'correct in terms' of ordinance. He pointed out in:a limited way the:addition.of two signs modifies architecture of building in the sense that the signs' will extend below fascia and will not be compatible with front of porch structure. Slides were shown of building and proposed signs. Member Koenitzer noted walls of building seemed to be made up of panels. He asked the width of: the. panels; suggesting the signs. might look better on first panel of wall rather than- the portico.,: Mr. Cowan said the panels were 7' plus a<:€ew indhes and the.si,go ,= was 8'. Y " "3_.� ` � 1. x' � fii''� v.y $ y � .'y= �d Yam'• HC-8T. ^t MINUTES OF THE Page Cho ;}`C.,Mct� x+�n euggest�d �,s h '-z' a rhdps they eaulA be -Ile Member Weinstein ascerta.'aed the present sign was mounted on: e screen. He y ace a sign paltt4 propabet,.8 . &-tuber Koenitter noteAd: the:iturrewt -sign 'could not` be :seen:runt3li Alkio�itirectly opposite it. A discussion followed on purpose of sLghz,4n& hcw': i they should be able to be seen. Mr. James McLey, 1725 �:64th 'Street:, Emorpry.11rle,' Bait le could use the same type of screen that is in back of WIT sign and continue it along front. He noted the."shrubbbry-biOrs existing:sigft:whibh 3a--rerai;a ii for asking for other signs., Existing sign. la nor seen ,going,,east-iDfi 5teiwer;s Creek Boulevard. The applicant showed pictures.he.:ha&iaken.a'to zubstaticgte this. He described the proposed signs and materials which would be used. In answer to Member Weinstein fir::McLey .said: the tdd`bbad. .•ound-witth whft4'lettbVr6?-erimmed in gold:was :the :Fireside. dfx s logy:,r hea =.would bey aillumiv9ft "gns with two bulbs per sign. ;; Members S.aallan said she thbxightr.,tb--icedr would:bb <tcac rk agai `the build- ing; the applicant offered to reverse the colors:--'rimer Sallan said she .would echo Member Weinstein's suggestion of moving sdjA to right=J'and changing red. i ?nx Chairman MCLoreir said:sbe:Aid not ob j ect to having signs at each end ol, portico. The applicant pointed out the two signs would be of less square footage;,than..the:=existtiag odes:=sign 71 ,`3 0 Chairman McLaren announced this was a Public Hearing and invited comments from the audience. There were none. :Member,-Koenitzer moved to close: Public-Rearings; seeon'ded by Member Sallan. Motion-catrictj'e74-0 Member Weinstein said he was not convinced- that two signs;.were'an•'apt solu- tion. His recommendation wound be to ask'appiicaat to-reituxn`=wi h new study and another alternative that might not give as much exposure as two signs but would give'better exposure than existing sign. HC-51,284.1, Member Weinstein moved to recommend application HC=51,284.1 be continued continued with recommendation to applicant to return with alternate plan exploring with greater effort the possibility of usitig single sign-to increase his exposure at Fireside Thrift. Seconded by Member Sallan. AYES: Members Koenitser, Sallan and Weinstein NOES: Chairman McLare> ABSENT: , Member Dressler: Motion carried, 3-1 jjh r '+A MINUTES -HE JULY 18, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETS '$ 9` • Chairman McLaren pointed out to the applicant the guidelines sugges .by,the committee. She suggested Mr.. Mciesy, rmtadt owner,AWd"getf .. revision. When Mr. .McLey asked for suggestions, Member Weinstein said that signing is for identifying, not advertising. At 9:05 p.m., .Chairman McLaren announced a recess, with the meetixtg reconvening at 9:12 p.m. 4. Application HC-51,321.1 of Estate Homes,. Inc: requesting ',HC-51,321.1 approval of site, architecture and landscaping for eleve duplexes located on Maxine Avenue southerly-of Homestead Road. Staff Report: Mr. Cowan noted that in tentative map approval from the City Council, two of the three conditions stipulated directly related to the function of this committee. One, a sound barrier would be needed along the eastern and northern borders of the: p pperty to:.reduce the impact of noise:, and secondly, there was .the specific desire to preserve as many existing trees as poss:ib;le... Mr. Cowan commented the grading plan had not been reviewed at this .time but the site is relatively flat and should not.present a pro- blem. He spoke to item 16 of Resolution -No i 1175 which said specimen trees on site and existing orchard rees; should be retained : in front and rear when feasible. The Engineering Department did no have the rear elevation of lots so could not ascertain 'how.:the'grad- ing would effect the retention of trees. Slides were shown of the site and freeway. There was a condition issued which required applicant to retain acoustical engineer who recommended the first six lots have 7' high sound oarrier and remaining lots should have 9' sound barrier. Mr. Cowan noted there might be a requirement that applicant receive variance for sound wall. In discussing three trees on street property outside of fence, Mr. Cowan noted the City was checking with the State to see if fence could be taken down if wall built. Existing Oak trees on site will remain. Chairman McLaren referr-:d to an article from Reader's Digest of May 1973 on trees as smog killers and noise barriers. Some type of tr^es or green belt should be put around fence. i, � WWI e HC-87 g MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 H-CDNTROL MEETING Page lO x The.prbb•lem of: maintenance .of. trees outside esf-.fene3e Baas 8iscuss . Mr. Cowan notes all buildings are single story. Member Weinstein questioned if residants an Makine Avenue hiatd.,beets notified. Mr. Cowan assured him this was the last phase of a continuing process. Mr. Mervin W. Hansen, 1741 Frobisher play, San- Jose signed -in - He-said this property was zoned R-2. When it came before Planning Cotmi6dion and City Council for tentative trap with single level dwellings, there was no opposition by neighbors. Could have developed additional lots by using flag lots. He pointed out the -average lot is 11;000 square feet. Regarding fence, there were several reasons whythey had not zeroed in on a decision. Mr. Hansen said they are still working"ain -fence as to what will be aesthetically good and have some sense of economy within it. He urged committee to compare a .subdivision on,Meridian Avenue' south-=of Post Office. Membtr-Znenitzer -suggested a combination of term and fence would keep fence, atr 6' and still give the -7` to 9' c+erarge needed.: Mrs. HM9en pointed out berm would .take up part of yard. Another problem would be drainage of water into other yards which might make berming unacceptable. After further discussion, it was notes} the applicant should took-to some type of-solution. in planting on-slope s-ide so , hat visually it would not giva a 9' high.impression along road. The-applicant YpolAted out bow far existing trees extend.over fence and noted trees can be `retained -if back yard done properly. It was ascertained orchard was relatively new and trees were in good shape. Evergreen trees are on highway, property Mr. Hansen said he did''not feel they would be required to ievelop highway property. Member Sallan voiced her preference to having 9' wall covered with plantings. Chairman McLaren noted San Jose has staff ordinance for sound barrier. It was asked to have this checked out. Member Weinstein asked to have driv%:ways and entrances pointed out. :;r. Hansen explained the three elevations and placement on site. He noted the two end units are very different. In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Hansen also described materials which would be used; noting they felt the shake shingles gave a more "community" feel. In answer to Chairman McLaren, Mr. Hansen explained the courtyard fences were o� redwood and lescribed the different fences on different elevations. xx` �` � . / y,'t1;� "u, ar�+� b� 9 .k01 MINUTES OF THE JULY 18, 1973 B-CONTROL MEETING -87 age 11 Meier Roei itzet �► grassed his dialiko far 4the dhvrio uis'-'>1, Iy2-3 ,gatter*t of ele0aE3oEt3-.. He itale moft varfet�'6t ibior of, st het eYiB' ail iii rind BiAck;c11 thfieqe. Tke Applf iak saia'thlir, hbd==Aliready'@+s cove:" Mr. Hansen noted'tfie Iendscaping taaf`bEen` laid= t �iq anx'aa. $# et q but that he was not present. In answer to Chairman McLaren, Mr. Hansen said, the-request'-from Counrril 4as 'to retgin the existing° ; fruit trees There' possible, and they had agreed r these are apricot trees-and'it° is-possible the depagtt 6nier-of•`aiRcul ture might require these be torn down. He pointed out it is to thei advantage to reta TY as many trees as possible as the units will be retained :far rental 'units. In a discussion with Member Weinstein regarding purpose of trees, Mr. Hansen said his sound engineer had information that indicated a hedge of trees`'solidly planted olir 20 tali produces practically no sound deadening. Member Sallan questioned this because of her own expeflence. Member Sallan"asked whet City Tree was proposed along the street. Mr. Cotaan said 'the ent re•'street 'witYi tfie' exception of service, sta- tion was in County jurisdiction. Member Sallan as-+#rtained_thete are a number of fruit trees in froi:t yard'whioh"wll '.be rete3ne4 A discussion ensued regarding landscaping. Mr. Hansen noted the lands capini"and sprihiklPr`system!'would be put in by the developer. Member Weinstein said he wanted to be sure.no trees were taken out and repiaeed'with S'gallon trees. . _ Mr. Dale Paape, 540 Bird, San .rose, architect, spoke to Member Koenitzer°s concern of placement of elevations. He exhnw appearances would be changed with the layout he had` presented bilt noted he would not object to mixing up pattern of elevations. Mr. Hansen'explained' fence which was hart of elevation and made unit' very unique. It was noted this was a Public hearing and comments from audience were invited. There were none. Member hoenitzer moved, seconded Ly Member Sallan, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Sallan suggested holding off on landscaping in rear until so barrier proposal came in. rty �_y�.rii"1-4' .'.�r•'p .3 �. . 'cA�'�e ;,y �� '� .., < �c •. �1 m�.',^kw..�' "rr` ti5,C,�Y 5., s*ac fT �4� },t,r 8i1 Tr Member Koenitzer asked if it were possible to male some andrq r enf whereby pp i�r- d a":on:,ei I , 4 � d the a � � ate � , �.��..., ice �. Op saw.tea a con $ this paint. He .so..Noieede . ba ,tada#ui :,+ r � und this was also belts Estud1@d,,, der #at t s �gpkgo„to have the staff cheek on pfanting progran on street r1ght of vay with plants iustql].ed by, davelape�c a»ei,,ffia nta3 ed b .,iaBa�e Stste« . -31,321.1 Member' 'Komduar moved to reca:ams 4 approval of. 1 -51, 21.1 with the proved w/ standard *rCait roc conditions,. Uhdbits A* 89. B-1.. a-�2a $-3, C aid C-1 ndit'ins and with .the following special-coed tions: 1. t the order of the facades of houses>be shuffleA sp it I s not a strict 1"2-1 paiCerri; approvai of px®posed,'p4ttern up to staff. 2. Landscaripig of rear ,porti®n of yards,be past oi`f and turd at they same time as sound carrier is. taeairdr. Seconded b Member'Sallsn. . . " = ` i`y iem�er t�oeniE2er also commi,p d app cant on pleasing development and very good front yard landscapir-4. AYES: I�Ieiabers Rog±i3 seir,;sa'!;a�x,end G` .isc�oen 11.arex: NOES: Nona ABSTAIN.. Member Veinste a _ } ABSENT: 'Member Dressier Motion cat$ed.� -p-� Chairman McLaren notified the's 1icant tbLs would ice aeaxd. befgre the City Council on August .6, 1973. UNFINISHED`BUSIMS.- 5. Application HC-51,299.1 of S.H.A.R.E., . Inc. requesting.approval of modification of architecture and landscaping,for �.Ijp HumYle- berry Pie Shop located at the north side of Stev<ans`Creek Boulevard, west of Sai:ch Way. Staff Report: IA+a. Cowan said this application involved a modification to the fence plan and a the treatment on the facade of the building. The fencing ,could he changed from masonry to wood and the color of the tile would be a purple. Mr. Larry Madsen, 330 Second Street, Los Altos, gave the reasons for the requested changes. The fence on the rest of the protect is 7' redwood and this would give continuity to project. He then showed samples of the to be used under window which were two shades of mauve.' 'In answer to Member Sallan, Air. Madsen said the area to be covered by tile would be 3' under the windows with landscaping in front. t+A* MINUTES OF THE JULY page 13 -Mr. rowan :then showed slides of.#10 a d:41;ppo$�d, The applicant said he slid not know if cola;j was., taentfoned at.,AM& hearing, but it was the color on all of the Sumbleberry Pie Parlors Member Weinstein,quepei pe the compatibility with concept of other buildings which were of white stucco with red tile. Mr. Madsen said the columns of dark wood ,diminishes the tile color .and the tiles were really of a subtle color, Member Sallan said she had had an oral communication expressing the hope that the Cupertino Bumbleb<erry Pie Parlor would not he of the purple tile. Chairman McLaren said she felt the use of purple as the tile color was misleading. In answer to Member Weinstein's question, Mr. Madsen said this particular material was not.that gau4y:and -would be encasedA n,woad" would work as well as brick in this particular instance , . T1�e ;twn;LL}, tile colors blend at a distance. x Mr. Madsen asked if there.were-.any objections- to change_of,;fence. Member Sallan said she would like to comment on fence U,y pointing out that consistently ,the committee received architectural render- ings, of fences with landscaping on one side of ,fence;, should see r oYil,y, fence and whatever js planted.behind it.or. coming.over the fence. She would like to see some provision for landscaping on out side of ,fence. Fence could be moved 2... or 3 feet inside,proper :yy, line and landscaping placed on outside. After further discussion.. -Chairman McLaren announced this was a, Public Hearing and requested comments from the audience. There were none. Member Sallan moved, seconded by Member Koenitaer, to close;Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 Mr. Madsen indi^ated he would like to have a motion one way or another since time was of the essence. A discussion followed whether to make it one motion or two separate motions. Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC-51,299.1 on HC-51,299.1 portion requesting change of fence from slumpstone to redwood. Fencing Chang Seconded by Member Sallan. approved 1 HC-87 MnWTES OF THE JULY 18,: 1073 H--COk OL `Ml;trlw Page 14 , AYES: Myers Kadnitzer Sallan, Weinstein and Chalimah *Lakta NOES; None 08M: Membdr Drdesler Motion' catiied, 4-0 HC-51,299.1 Member koenitzer moved to recommend denial of portion of application Tile change HC-51,299.1 concerning change of color of tile on building. Seconded denied by Member Sallan. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan and Weinstein NOES: Chairman McLaren ASSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 3-1 The applicant was informed this would be heard by City Council gist ` August 6, 1973. HC-51,211.1 6. Application H0-51,211.1 of Sequoia Mortgage Company requesting approval to modify the architectural plan with respect to the carports for the Casa De Anza condominium conversion project located adjacent to and westerly of Mary Avenue directly opposite the intersection of Lubec Street and Mari► Avenue. Staff Report: The staff felt the decision to delete carport would be made by Planning Commission, bvii Planning Commission felt it was more a question of design rather than land use and should be resolved by ASAC. Mr. Cowan'explained the applicant wished to delete four carports at southwest portion of project and place trellis/fence structure around car compound on the north, east and south boundary. Member Koenitzer asked to see drawing that would show front elevation rather than the side. It was noted part of previous approval was to build fence in front of patios which was of the same treatment. Slides were shown of the compound and impact of freeway and project. Chairman McLaren expressed her opinion an enclosed parking area would be desirable. She commented on the front looking quite a bit better. Mr. Allen DeGrange, 15780 Shannon Way, Los Gatos, showed a sketched elevation of fence. Wisteria would be hanging down from trellis. Mr. Ken Thomas, Sequoia Mortgage Company, dis.cussed the use of ivy and substi- tution of sod. He' pointed out they had increased tree planting by 25%. y AiI4jTEs OF THE ,€T 40 ali!IVI z z t Mr. DeGrange noted this area gwd, Iwop t Cr, campers and other high vehicles which could not be put under ca Rrtr 7 ee`.fence �aaruld `siegd;�'.Gr .frtom.;sistt:.-Iq s, Member Weinstein said he felt it would be appropriate to say some.�hing about converted projects to the Planning Commission. Chairman McLaren noted there had been many ftsd#assi i`,&rig! these. Mr. Cowan said the Council had directed staff to look info this. . . a:;:,Itirwas Aoted",this was .& PuUlic, Hearing�:atid;:open": for.c®rtfenU :fro the audience* There were none.; :_ .. ;�... Membe_r-,,Kge4Jt zer moved,,: seconded by Member Sallan, to close Publ c Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Koenitzer noted that several times in the last several months this projAReprad,come in for little changes to be approve . Chairman McLaren pointed out each improvement made was helpful t' the project. After further discussion, Member Weinstein moved to approve HC-51,211.1 appTicatiori �y Sequoia Mortgage Company, subject to split vote standard H-Control conditions and according to Exhibits A--1, B-3, and B-6 as presented with the added note that these conv, ,ion projects do make things difficult but do not give mu.h cn_1;t_W bn what coumittee can do; are relying on good faith of architect an owner. Seconded by Member Sallan. , AYES: Member Weinstein and Chairman Mc�t NOES: Members Koenitzer and Sallan Y ;) ABSENT: Member Dressler Because of the split vote, there was further discussion. The applicant explained they were trying to make the project look more aesthetically pleasing. A discussion was held regarding parking of campers. Mr. Thomas Pai they had not had more than two campers at any one time. He reiter- Zted their feeling that the trellis/fence would give the project s more over-all appal. In answer to Member Sallan, Mr. Thomas said 50% of trees around perimeter are- 6-1/2' to 10' and they were increasing specimen tr es beyone plan. r +{ # 47 Page ifs Mr. Cowen then read a point of order Whereby an applicatim is automatically . denied wheal;r;r-,:sp +M' 1W OW&e4.,, : : < 4 The apples vaej-tb2A-he 1 cou f 'Oea1 to MY Va6allit,4W,Owan reminded the applicant to notify staff of this intent to appear prior to the meetlog. r ADJOUR1V ENT s At 31-.03 pa m; - Hember, ltoerltzefr moVedi sesmded=by,met Salllan, to adjourn to the next regular meeting an August 8, 1973 " Matron carr"di 4-0 . ATTEST: City Clerk rt x I o CITY OF CUP !ww'�etII 10300 Torre Avenus, Cupertino Pa$e I Telephone: 252-4505 . . "'!a a ". MINUTES OF THE REW AR MEETING` OF THE , Hl"fECZilly:"'t4N0' f L~} C0124ITTEE OF AUGUST 8, 1973 IN THP: CPUNOIIL CHAMBW* 'CITY , ".,..... = CUPERTIM, CALIFORM SALUTE TO,.THE,,L chairman McLarei ,opened the:meeting with the Sal"o to t'hol 'wag at 7:33 p.m. F ROLL CALL MembeaG eeea&: -Members'„Dfeseler, Kdesiifzer, 'SaYYari, W s to n " r=#�`=(;Iisirma�i'McLarea} _ Members,abseatt.- .,Staff grss t�FlanzterRobert 6oaisa'. Senior apZ iing :Teeli�cid Kramer Recording Secretary Ruth Cox_ ,.. , APPROVAL'-OP K[NUTRS t Miwvtea of the $egular Meetij�j of .May ,2.3•; 1973 Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to approve minutes as submitted. :e _ -morioti carried, 54 Minutes of the Regular"Meeting of- July >8', 2973' Member Weinstein rAoted on 'page 12, the -voting should read "2-0-1j1".' Member Sallan wished to insert as part of first paragraph that she had asked to have stiff check on planting program an street right-of' way with plants installed by developer and maintained by the State. Member Weinstein moi=ed, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to approve minutes as corrected. Member Dressler abstained since he had not been present at meeting. Motion carried, 4-0-1 POSTPONEMENTS: None P -5 t , PCi 88 MINUTES OF THE AUGTST 8, 1973'8-COIF!" L M1MT= 71' a. Page 2 } WRITTEN COIiM MCATIONS: Alone ORAL COMMICAT-IOW: Eta PUBLIC IYEARINGS: , HC-51,284.1 1. Application HC-51,284.1 of Ad-Art, Inc. (Fitiside Thrift) requesting Fireside alproval of a sign plan for a commercial builcliag: located:on the Thrift nobth side of Stevens Creek Boulevard west of Blaney Avenue. Continued from' B-Control meeting of July 18, :1973.. Staff report: Mr. Cowan noted this application had been continued from the previous meeting with the committee suggesting the use of one sign instead of the two requested. The applicant felt; however that one sign could aot be:adequaele",and:-had returned with'a sign plan reviged to fit in;,the panele on the sides of the building as had been suggested as an alternative by. the-committee. Slides were shown of the building and existing: sign. lg :CQmm t4ported the proposed signs_axe tf:chuieally correct. Mr. James McLey, 1715 64th Street, Emory`•ille, said the two signs were necessary and used a slide taken by the staff to substantiate his- claim that the existing ,sign, because of the tree, could no't;'ka Beau 1TOV'snost lines of vision. He said the two signs being asked for are of a lesser size than the one existing sins. One sign does :mot V entify.the ding. Mr. MLLey pointed out the signs would be cut down to fit panels as had been suggested. w Chairman McLaren ascertained the sun screening would remain when the existing sign was removed. Member Koenitzer said the location onside of building as= proposed. was satisfactory. He referred to the discussion of previous meeting about reversing colors to put red l.rters on a white background: Mr. Robert Ramsey, 2957. May Road, Ricbmond., representing both Fireside Thrift and Ad-Art Sign Company, said the location had been resurveyed and it was felt the viggestion of narrowing the signs to fit in panels had been a good one. He said Fireside Thrift would prefer keeping the red background if possible. Mr. RaL,ey pointed out that one objection to flat sign in existing location was the possibility of it being a traffic hazard because of turning lanes by people attempting to locate building. The signs would be recessed between uprights. Member Koenitzer said he felt the sign should br below the bottom of canopy to break horizontal line. Mr. Ramsey aa::eed. i � F XE°q* g. W � s MMM k OF Z'Ng AM AT Os 1973 � ;y ..._ Sallan said she was concersmd about brightness of acid �g F would like to see colors reversed. She also questioned szze o signs and said it might be its order to consider more of a scaf�Eisg dim-and 19 event the colors weure not reversed, scaling.dowse 01 be even more importaut. Mr. Ramsey said the preference would IV" to keep the red background, pointing out adjacent wins which were`sei and yellow. He said if it were necessary to .reverse colors to Salk approval of application this would be considered. Member Dressler said he favored reversal of colors also, and suggested perhaps the background could be the color of the;building rather than white. Mr. Ramsey pointed out the sign colors would have a lower-key feel after being exposed to the elements for a' time. He further explained sign detail and their reasons f:sr these, particular signs. Member Weinstein reiterated his preference for one sign. Me said the-aign could be moved to other. end of canopy so it would not be behind the tree. He told Mr. Ramsey .his arguttents that the sign flat on the front might be a traffic hazard could apply to signs being requested or any type of sign Mr. Ram ey said they could not entertain flat sign across the front ® of the building. He explained in order for Fireside Thrift, to . obtain lease of building, part of the lease was that there would be proper ident;ifi.cation:,, ..Fie pointed to other.: signs of close proximity and said he did not feel Fireeide Thrift. should be je:opordized2":art: Penalized by having identification withheld He explained 'the nature of their business, and said it was Imperative that traffic from both directions be able to locate their office. Chairman McLaren said because of location of building and` the width of Stevens Creek Boulevard, she did not think it would vrt `to `have a sign on both sides of the building. She pointed out that appii- cant was cooperating in reversing colors and changing tbalocation on building. Chairman McLaren announced this was a Public Hearing and open to comments from the audience. There were none. Member Dressler moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public Hearings. Notion carried, 5-0 Member Weinstein said he was not convinced that one sign could not identify building. HC-88 MINI zs OF THE AUGUST- 3.9t jaiir itl T'� ` Page Mwben Sallan said she thoughtnew signs sbould be more zisthettAl.ly p!.eani4g ° bay Y�!i s teing-�!`ep �, and st a Sd. trite or;, f this"apprlfcat . .;. r . .;_,: ., xa Member Dressler sug`gee teif perb the bt4lding 'Was- # eCi >fpri';UaSe because'nne sign had ain't been ennui 3c€enrifics'tic3%: _ Member Weinstein repeated his feeflt►g that'signs should identify,, not advertise. The size`of the signs was bri'enT d'ase14sd4. Mdmber xata ii.t '=&ted that if the sign weir mucb smaller, it wovdid be lost ;4.ecause< �-Vthat signs at adjacent buildings. , . ..::,. . r HC-51,284.1 Meander Koen3tier moved to recommsid a�pk6val of HC--51,284.1 rtah the City approved w/ Council with the standard H-Control conditions, Hk-hibit-V 1st,,Ravision conditions and following additional conditions: $ (1) That the top-of the -sign would be at least four eonsretd,K blocks from'top of budding. (2) That the red and white, coiors bb=signs be re0drsed Aso-=badk•- ground was white and letters wore- red. Seconded by Member Bressler. is AYES. Members Dressler, Ko er', and Chalr6en' &LAren NOES: Members Sallan and w1eiiMAi6in -Notiorn der iedy.3-;-2 The applicant was informed this would be heard by the City Council on August 20, 1973. s The applicant spoke briefly to aesthetics of sign seise, gra*dcs and techniques for balance. HC-51,299.2 2. Application HC-51,299.2 of S.H.A.R.R., Inca requestir,, ,oprovel Bumbleberry of a sign plan for the Bumbleberry Pie Shop located at the north Pie Shop side of Stevens Creek Boulevard, west of Saich Way. Staff report: ,ir. Cowan reported that the City Council had denied request for change to purple shade of the and applicant had agreed to place brick material on front of building beneath window. Slides were shown of site, building and drawings of building and sigr. f ifs k4 a IF KWTES OF THE AUGUST S, 1973 H-COIM.OL MEETING �ag8 5 Mr. Cowan saj& the application was for trio roof ;Qunt,4;0 s; _ totaiti g 96-square fdet; `allowable is :124 square ;feet.: A cabinet would be rimmed with light .-bulbs and fllumina�sd� . . colors world be those used in all Bumbleberry e€tablishments but; the sign background would be a natural wood treatment compatible : to mood fascia of building. Member Koenitzer asked if the cabinet and sign bad been on original. applica-son. He expressed a preference for the clean mansard roof line. Mr. Cowan pointed out the professional buildings and Bumbleberry .are separate operations, but technically speaking, are .on :the same lot so will only be allowed one ground sign. He reportad,that staf is attempting to have all facets of an application presented at the same time, but this was mot-&,as to date. Member Sallan pointed out that possible sign revisions, might be for, less than 32 of total square feet allowed now and in this case,.. 96 square feet might be maximum rather than "well within limits".' A future meeting for further work on sign revision to be held after,; General Plan was finalized was briefly discussed, Member Weinstein asked how the square footage of .these- signs com- pared with the Marie Callendar signs. Mr. Cogan;°said he'-lid no idea. Member Weinstein said he thought Bumbleberry should :be of the same percentage of square footage. Chairman McLaren said she did not think sign logos had to be;- changed, or compared with other restaurant signs. She pointed out that the signs were already less than allowed. Ms. Sophia Ostoya, architect for Bumbleberry and designer of sign,. gave a very charming presentation of her credentials and her think ing in regard to signs. She said signs are important for business advertising and important for environment. Signs should. he a part of the architecture. She pointed out these signs are of the same slope and same stain as the building fascia. Member Weinstein asked Its. Ostoya if she as an architect felt the sign blended into building itself. Pis. Ostoya explained her choice of colors for sign and wall stains. Member Weinstein asked why it was necessary to have the second sign Ms. Ostoya said there was the second entry and the sign created atmosphere for entry since the buil.d.Ing is very plain. She felt both signs would be an attractive asset to the building. s a. KC-88 WUTES OF THE AUGUST 8, 1973 H--CONTROL MEETING , Page b Ifinber Weinstein then asked if the sign could be scaled down proport onally f: all respects. Ms. Ostoya said she thought the two signs should be equal alld the si -Above .entry,,had:-to -be that.;stae:tq f7kx ,3,rs �h t i°size. She said if 'bdckg'round -of drawing were:dark sq it.�ai],1:bq,..the.ys��cr4ould not stand out;' : The "sign is only 4'x IW Member D.xessler a&cer,"ined that fttint-,of'Vuil4fta-was 90-93 e, in;length wi t-h.,aA additional:10'07 y overhaaig - In answer to Member Dressler's next question, Ms. Ostoya said the small gold fights around the "binet did not blink. Member Koenitzer said, he would prefer to see signs on side of'building because he liked the clean line of the roof. He said he would like-to r, see smaller signs which,he felt would be more in keeping>with. the build- ing and with the image that is desired for the area. He said..he could not accept -light bulbs around the signs since the signs are iliumi "ted. Member Sallan said her concerns were the same ss Member,Koenituer;s..* Ms, Ostoya then told the story of the tiny lights representing the. tlny peop-1- from Bumbleberry Valley. Chairman McLaren pointed out that with programs at DeAnza, people would be looking for some place::to.go afterwards apd.,she;did'no.t feel it would be detrimental to have a sign on that side.,- Mr. Frank Sterba, Pettibone Sign,Company, said the. 41 x, 10,1, was the absolute perimeter of signs. Sign,urea- was csnsid�erably_ less:_fd because of the number of letters and the style of the,.lett.ers,, if;,it-were} any smaller it would be unreadable from any distance.. Member Koenitzer- pointed out Stevens Creek Roula,fard,slopes doves and; with parked cars at Key Chevrolet, building cannot be seen until almost at the corner of Stelling •Road. Member Veinstein asked if there was any rule that ^paid there could not be a monument sign in front and none on the building. Mr. Cowan explained the ordinance regarding one free standing sign. Member Koenitzer pointed out there would have to be an agreement between Bumbleberry and professional building owners. Mr. :terba noted letters ou sign range in size from 11" on caps to 9" on lower case. Chairman McLaren noted this was a Public Hearing and asked ft, curments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to close is blic Hearings. Motion carried, 5-0 h ,711 MUTES OF THE A'BGJS 8, 1973 8-40 L MEE7TIi G e ass': Member Wettstein sa:.d the sign an the, westerly elevation old not � be seen and therefore was not needed A'iow_sassputnes�te front woul_u solve everyone's problem. Mr. Cowan rsitWe6i the owner of property, vould; have. to,make a choice between the office complex* and Bumbleberry in that event. Member Weinstein noted the committee had been lead to.believe by Moth the architect and sign maker that the size of the signs was optimum Member Dressler,said :he skid not feel the committee should try to manage someone's business for than and should not. t ompare to others. This was the applicant's wishes, they should be' 11st' to and a decision �madea Member Dressler moved to make a recommendation for apvroval to Motion City Council of Appliration HC-51,299.2, ,Exhibi.ts 1 , r-1, F-2, subject to 'staudard 11 xdtrol conditions, feeling that the sign^ -. as'planned matches the:,aesthetics of the building. Seconded by Chairman McLaren. , i ., x^ Member Sallan said tUq jppearance of ,the sign is attractive. She r' was concerned. over size,,aud the.number of signs. Any sign can` --, veduced in proportion Member Weinstein said he would Iike, to hear alternatives' ixr termsr of 'reducing size of.,-signs. He- suggested continuing application if . this was possible. . t ;A > Chairman McLaren ascertained, that the opening is planned for some- time in'August. Member Dressler repeated his feelings that the owner had`"a might to his own desires and the committee should attempt 'to satisfy,his needs as well as theirs. After more discussion, Member Dressler amended the motion to. indlad Amendment that size of signs were to be, reduced to 3/4 of existing size Seconded by Member Sallan. Vote on Amerdmc.nt: AYES: Members Dressler, koenitzer, Sall.an, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None Amendment passed, 5-0 } rf„. Q kT,.F 1xM 'xk p rr t HG88 'MMUTBS OF THE AUGUST &¢ _.1:►./3 H-CONWI,,MEEK"f 7IdG Page + i za HC-51,299.2 Vote on Motion: approved w/ ,. , conditions AYES: f insteiti And t2# rmaad.i cLarea ,. NOES: Memadr�Koeuitrer Motion eaxrIed,.4-1, Member Koeni.tzer noted his negative vote was due to his objection of the lights around the sign. Chairman McLaren infomed the agplicanL this would be heard by the City Council on August 20, 1973. Recess Since it was then 9:00 p.m., a recess was taken with the meeting; being reconvened at 9:10 p.m. IIC-51,296.2 3. Application HC-51,296.2 of Bob's 31& �Boy Family Restauraitt Bob's Big represented by Robert E. Eakin requesting approval of a ,s Boy plan for a restaurant-facility located At the southwest of Alves Drive and Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. Staff report: Slides were shown. Mr. CaiMh rtealled the'landscap$ng, " lighting and signing was continued in February of this year so that design criteria could be established for the northwest-quadxavt of Saratoga-Sunny- vale Road and Stevens Creek Boulevard. Slides of the proposed sign were hibited as well as .architectural ren- dering showing proposed illuminated sign on side of bui.lding.. The proposed location of sign was pointed out on site plan and motW that the sign should be moved to the southern edge of -the driveway+ rather than the north so sign would no-t hamper visibility of traffic turning out of parking lot. The sign is 14' in height with the sign itself being 6' x 9'. it is within the ordinance with regard to square footage. Mr. Cowan pointed out however that guidelines for the Saich property, of which this appli- cation is a part, was for low profile monument type signing. Member Koenitzer questioned original approval. Chairman McLaren read front the minutes of January 17, 1973 the motion that was made and passed. She also read guidelines suggested for signs in this quadrant. Mr. Robert Eakin, 22270 Kendall Street, Cupertino, pointed out it was.. stained glass above door with 2" square beige ceramic the on right side of door. The wall sign would be one cam saying SHAKE, STEAKS AND PANCAKES, done in scroll type white lettering against the beige background. fi u i IM F3nW= OF THE AM g, `1971.164C , . p H.. Fak1w said they felt the low prof:J1e algit vboult tit be Win Identity for what was needed on sign fade. Would not bra}-o'bs Above car 4evel on busy street-such as Highway 9; In answer to Chairman McLaren, Mr. Eakin said the illuminated brightness would be the same as on other Bob's Big Boy edtaur&6i6. Member Weinstein staid he had two main objections. He objected to sign on ,face of building dud felt :it was unneces'ary. He also felt> a low profile- sign could give concept of the restaurant. He suggested sign could be down 2-1./21 approximately by eliminating all the words other than Bob's Big Boy. He suggested changing black finish on post to redwood to blernd with building. Member Dressler said he felt strongly that postsign was too big and asked Mr. Eakin if he had any alternatives. Mr. Eakin said several designs hart been considered before choosing ; this one. The parent company of Bob's Big Boy Restaurants of America felt very strongly about, what was on signing. He could notA make concession for removing words without first clearing with them; One reason for the lk' height including planter box was to get above level where it would experience vandalism. Member Sallan noted application had been hassled all the way. She pointed` out the considerable amount of,time spent on sig iir.g; g iddi lines, as this was first in design complex. Thls`applications does not bear any resemblence to those guidelines. She noted she was not happy with' sign presented. Mr. Eakin noted they had tried to follow guidelines, but the guide--" lines had not been very specific. Member Koenitzer expressed his opinion that the sign was too much. He felt the words Bob's Big Boy would be enought He would like to see something of monument idea not over 6'. He pointed out the committee's desire to reduce nuriber and size of signs so there was not this- visual impact. Chairman McLaren asked to hear the committee's wishes regarding a continuation. Mr. Eakin said he ,was confused. There were other signs in vicinity which were larger, one prop:;.,ed tonight that was bigger. He pointed out this sign was within the ordinance. Chairman McLaren etg.lalned there was an intensive study going into this quadrant under General Plan formulation. nt ,mat x { �* RC-88 MINUTES OF THE AUC'U8'P Page 10 -, Xakia, c aeruted they had been co t-Inued An,alkwst ,eve3eyf .` . They wes u ez: cox�stgnct can and sti17� could toot.present,"a land sc 4 He said they had retained the ate° architect As,, aity;ab 'wuli ° e:o iced. If application were denied tonight, he felt it should be taken to =:U. Chairman XcLaron noted this was a Public Hearing and opened thm.mbeting to comments from the audience. There 4ere none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by kmbe- Sallan, to close Public Bearings. Motion cart ied, 5-0 IK;-51,296.2 Member Sallan recommended denial of Applications RC-51,296.2' to City Council. denied Member Weinstein seconded the motion. AYES: Memberj Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan and Weinstein NOES; Chairman McLaren Motion carried, 4-1 Staff member Cowan asked-for more detail of denial for City:Cote l.'s consideration: ,It was noted sign was.too_ large, .should be,aeal down and have only the ,words Bob's Big. Boy-instead of proposed w6rdJ The sign on the front of the building should be eliminated. Chairman II.cLaren informed the= applicant, this would be heard:betoM the City Counc:.1 on August 20, 1973. Mr. Cowan. advised the applicant to submit a letter to City Cl�;`k..ssaying he had concerns regarding this decision. HC-51,075.3 4. Application HC-51,075.36 of Westfield Company requesting approval Westfield of site, architecture,, landscaping and grading for a tw..-?story Company industrial/office building located at the southwest cot-war :of Pruneridge Avenue and Tantau Avenue. Slides were shoum cf the site and proposed building. Mr. Cowan 8--id the site plan had been gone into thoroughly. The setback on Tantau Avenue is 28' and 25' on Fruneridge. He pointed out the short stalls on site. Member Koenitzer noted in some cases inter-mixirC short stalls with regular stalls had not been successful; perhaps should be separated. fir . Cowan said the Planning Commission felt there was enough parking on site without the short stalls so they would not be any problem. He also -pointed out parking is designed so that bumpers will overhang curb, a w .7 HnWTV; OF THE AUGUST t$, X973 ,Page -11 Sudan a shown of adjacent building to the landscapfo4g. Nr. `Cowan commented on existing .buos"ping V h , has a flat area then mound with street trees planted at point of transition. This application will be different in that mound begins at Curb. Chairman XcLaren asked if provision had been made for future widening of streets; Mr. Cowan said no, Pruneridge was at maximum. Mr. Cowan noted grading and undergrounding have been reviewed and there were no problems. Lighting would be submitted at later. date. Mr. Terry Rose, 21311 Milford Drive, Cupertino, and Mr. Tom Masters 1671 The Alameda, San Jose, signed in. Member Koenitzer asked how far above roof line the mechanical shed would project and was told it would project about 119". With regard to the trash enclosure, this was a 7° masonry enclosure., with wood trellis over top and two gates. Member Koenitzer said h$ would like to see something on wall area other than plair. concrete block. Mr. Thomas said there eras not much landscaping in this area because' 'of heavy traffic. ® With regard to landscaping, Member Sallan suggested a tree of the same type as on westerly side could be inserted oTr the easterly elevation riose to the building. Mr. Thomas said these were Mayten trees and agreed to increase number. Member Sallan also suggested something taller than the ivy proposed in area behind trash enclosure; something of the, pittosporum variet%. The trash enclosure could be textured the same as the building. Member Sallan suggested increasing redwoods on westerly boundary of property using same spacing as to the south running down to Pruneridge. It was noted that cash has been submitted to ensure planting of street trees. The choice of Tul-ip trues and the possibility oi' leavers being dropped on parking let was discL:3sed. Member Koenitzer suggested a Magnolia graudiflora. Chairman McLaren noted this was a Public Hcrri.ng and opened the meeting to comments from the auAi.ence. There were none. Member. Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to close Public ® Hearings. `� Motion carried, 5-0 MOM to BC-SS MIMES OF THE AlJfn81HT"�; ` � 0 0 .~ "� ; •x 6;. Page 12 Member Sallan recommended approval of HC 51,075436 to Cat Counc l.3jdth the statidirld eBrtral eona't tiaras, F hf to ;` '8, S x t, .aid b � ii�gaillowing addyi.ti63 cotid'ii'tiv�as: - Arc.titteturar (1) ' Trish enclosure to use f1-jilshod .in the"Same banner to be compatible with building In color and` `design. Landscaping: (1) At easterly elevation of" building, -add two Mayten trees similar ft size to 'the westerly° elevation. (2) On the western perimeter of property add Sequoia trees in similar proportion to ISS builefug to the south. (3) Pittosporum type foliage to be planted as additional screen around trash enclosure to the south. HCz51,075.3 Seconded by Member Koenitzer. ` approved w/ conditions AYES: Members Dressler, Koeidtzer, 5allan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None Motion carried, 5-=0 The applicant was informed this would be heard by City Council on August 20, 1973. HC-51,24i.5 5. Application HC-51,26I;.5 "of-De Anza oaks requesting modification De Anza Oak of site; architecture, landscaping and grading relative to the recreation facility for the De Anza Oaks developmeatr"located 1600 feet vest of Foothill Expressway on Pormanente I Road. Staff report: Slides of the original and the new site plans were shown. The scope of the application is the formal recreation area. The pool is planned- for thr ravine with stairs going up to pool level and to recreation building. Slides ire shown of the site. Chairman McLaren questioned flow of water from winter rains. Air. Cowan said the water flow had been engineered. Mr. Cowan said the applicant would speak to which trees would be kept. Mr. Cowan reported the Engineering Department was• concerned about erosion control on cut. The cut was exhibited by slides. Some sort of barrier should be put on 12' cut at community recreation area. r mill 3 MII+t€PTES OF THE AUGUST,8, 1973. F-cDYrwj, mELr1'}ii�YG .' %C-88 f Page 13 Member Weinstein asked if .t was proposed to have users walk from parking area to recreation area. He noted-everyone wound ham to pass the pool. It was ascertained there is a 38' rise from cut-de ' sac to community center. A ramp system for handicapped persons was discussed. Chairman Mcl.a:.an questioned Planning Commission should see this 'ap- plication first because of the drastic changes. Mr. Cowan said ': the Engineering Department said there were no substantial grading changes from original application. Member Koenitzer said he felt it was a drastic cha-oge when it went from 6' to 12' cut in grading. He asked to see the original plans.` He axpressed his preference for minimum cut. Mr. Robert McBain, 2054 El Camino, Santa Clara, pointed out that the vertical cut gets a. lumpstone retaining wall. Amount of:cut is over-excavated and dirt would be replaced. Amount of wall ex- posed to view would be substantially less than:shown oa.slide. : Planting had been approved.on area above retaining wall.; In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. McBai.n said the reason for the change was the swimming pool had been enlarged and to retain the large Oak tree. He said the buildings would be built on natural terrain. Cuts would be only for pool. A deck would be built ar.,und Oak tree. View from residents in back was discussed, as well as water pipe for drainage down to creek area. Mr. McBain also explained how pool area would be screened from other areas. Mr. McBain said the highest cut would be 8' at one point. Footing is 3' that holds retaining wall, then dirt filled in. Member Koenitzer noted base of Oak tree was 10' below level of deck and questioned how many br.•anches would have to ba removed. Mr. McBain did not know how, many braaiches would h_ivo to be removed. Mr. Cowan suggested applicant speak also to some other trees located in the canyon. Mr. Arthur Andersoa, 405 N. Central, Caii:pbell, said the important trees.were on left side of divide and they would fit buildings around these tress. There is a heavy wooded area of canyon behind buildings which was shoran o:: slide. RC-88 MINUTES OF THE :AUCUST 8, 1973 H-CCMTROIL MEETIM . Page 14 Member Weinstein ascertained the onip way to ,got to �;eatioa,dater •was Ili, by the pool. Mr. M^Bain explained the contr-,l point was the gate at the W bottom of the rise. In answer to Member, Weinstein, Mr. McUai:n<fwplained this; is a townhouse type of development with 211 units. Member Weinstein: said.he could not support a situation where everyone had to gn -past pool to get to recreation area. Mr. Me Bain suggested the possibility of putting in a trail around recreation :area. Member Weinstein also questioned number of steps having to be:cliabed. Mr. r�'-Lain said this was explained to prospects and 3/4 of the units had been sold. Buyers are usually young couples or couples whose children are grown. Member Weinstein suggested a ramp or trail for older or handicapped people. Mr. Mc Bair, said there would be no object io this. A:discussion-then ensued on where the trail would have to start to accomodate the 38' rise in grading; also how traffic could be gotten away from the pool. It %as ag^: n,0 the architecture was acceptable. With regard to landscaping, Member Sallan noted the rarimeters v*11 have little impact on community. She suggested any walls -on exterior sho.xlo. be covered with landscaping. Chairman ZkLa;:er. noted Algerian ivy was excellent for slopes. Member Weinstein said he wasn't sure from plans about- structures'over some walls, but he thought it would be desi,-able to put some landscaping to cover as hest as possible. ttr. Cowan reminded the committee about the Engineering Department's concern about erosion control.. Mr. McBain told the committee there ` would be an erosion control plan. Member Sallan referred 4o protective barryer. Mr. Mc,Bain pointed out s there was a level space behind retaining wall of approximately 2-1/2'. Mr. Cowan noted there are some 8' drops and this should be checked with City Attorney as to liability. ' Member Koenitzer questioned extensive amount of grading. Mr. Mc Bain said the same amount of grading would be necessary no matter where the poll was placed. A discussion was held regarding landscaping ?n front of retaining walls. 1 Chairman McLaren noted this was a Public Hearing and opened the meeting to comment_ from the aadience. There were none. t s mS THB MM -88 Rage 15 Member :Sal2ab moved Ad -lose Puftle Udd riAgs 'secondea by Meuib�e We#nsteltt. Notion carried, 5-0 Membe' Weinstein moved to recommend to the City Council approval of HC-51,241.5 Application HC-51,241.5, subject to standard H-Control conditions, approved w/ Exhibits A, A-1, A, B-1, B-2, B-3, B-4, C, C-1, C-2, C-3 and D and conditions including the following additions and stipulations (1) Rs-garding land 'cots, that there be imposed on these the necessary landscaping and/or erosion control and safety conditions- for any of the cuts associated with the project. (2) That there be a set of specifications prepared by architect delineating those existing trees to be saved and how this will 'be accomplished. (3) Access be provided to the recreation structure that 'diverts pedestrian traffic from pool area; i.e. an incline ramp or :rail that Mould also"setve for handicapped people or senioi citizens for 'access to` the recreatioa area. Seconded by Member Sallan. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitgetj Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren: NOES: None - Motion carried, 5-0 Chairman McLaren notified the applicant this would be heard before the City Council on August 20, 1973. ' Member Dressler left the meeting at 11:05 p.m. It was agreed to hear item 8 on agenda next as applicant had been waiting for quite some time. 8. Application 11C-51,309.1 of Mackay Homes (Damico Property) requesting a tree replacement for the Ridgecrest: Development ; locatea adjacent to and westerly of McClellan Road approxi- ( mately 250 feet westerly of the iuLersection of Byrne. Avenue Chairman McLaren said because of her involvement she would.. abstaiii from discussion of this application. fWIN!:ill � k HC-88 TES, OF THE AUGUST 8, 1973 xR-CONTRIDL WMI= Page 16 Staff Ire-welt";; Hr«, q noted .,apP. cstlo4 s f -'g-#pY;W to replace a native specimen tree which could not be saved because,sx9 ,votit>:damage due to grading. The builders had thought to be able to retain this tree. He said they gave -agreed Ca deposit $1,000 -alth the City. The location of the replacement tree should be discussed at this time. Nr. ,Cowan said there a-4 a •Fig trees on -the ,property which should be discussed to insure steps:were taltiea to _pza erne .it < Slides of site .were .shoran, Member Koenitzer avid this application pointed up the .need for more detailed grading plans. Mr. Leonard Newman, Mackay Horses, Palo Alto, noted this was really too large a tree-to be on a patio and they should have realized:this- He agreed final grading plans should be ava3.lable sooner, but this migh� prove to be a needless Pxpense to devel:a"pet ;in ;case appl$c;ation was denied. He pointed out the number of trees saved and additional trees planted. Mr. Parker :SmUh, 6801 Dublin Blvd. Dubt-LA , said they aetq proposing as a replacement, .a specimen Holly Oak. , )�qcotion would rbo near main entrance to project. Member Sallan ascertained there were 28 street trees along McClellan Road and shrub plantings on clues de of w.all,.:.12r. Smith said,tlhere were some indentations in fence where appr'oximately_ W Magnolia trees were to be placed. Member Weinstein questioned the similarity between Holly Oak and Live Oak trees and discussed an alternate. Ile ascertained that by a specimen tree, Air. Smith referred to a 12' minimusc boxed tree. Member. Sallan questioned what the biggest tree was that could be gotten in boxes and mold it was probably lei'. The Pepper tree being replaced was 30' . She asked if there.was any input from staff as to type of tree I and Mr. Cowan said this would be left to this committee. 1 Member Sallan said this should not have happened and should not happen ` in the future. The replacement should be the .largest tree that could hf-, gotten. in answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Smith said the Fig tree would be ' boxed and drained. Member Koenitzer moved approval of HG-51,309.1 with standard H-Control y conditions to replace specimen tree with at least a 12' higL Holly Oak to be Installed at south side of main entrance to the project. Seconded by Member Weinstein. MINUTES OF THE AUGU$ 0.,. 6iL-88 E Page 17 AYE'S: Members Koenitzer, Sal.lan and Weinsteln r NOES: None r AWTAI2". C2s.a rma: �Icl:ar`en ABSENT; Namber Bressler Motloii earri :d, 3,0--1-1 RF,VIEW OF QW-41GE OF COPY OF SIGN FACE% 6. Sandy's of Lodi Inc. (iced Barn) requesting change of coyly of an existing sign located at the northwest corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard and Salch ,lay. Staff report: Slides were shown of existing pole sign and location. The sign had been for Burger Chef and would 'nova be Red Barn. Both the same type of business establisbments', Ms. ',Kramer said the sign would' be a vItite background with red ':_;: letters. ` Future modifications were a possibility. In looking at the slides, Chairman Mr-Laren noted the storage containers-which were to ba hidden behind brick-partition were,:,;., still. sitting in front. Mr. Cowan said he had talked to City. Attorney regarding, change of copy on pole signs and under present ordinance,, these-signs are,: sacrosant, there is no abatement period. He did not believe;,An- effort to attach conditions to change of copy request would be supported. After further discussion, Nember Sallan coved to continue-this application. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. Motion carried, 4-0 7. Golden blest Sign Company (Lambert's Photo) requesting change of copy of an existing sign located at 10325 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. It was staff's rec.ommend2tion that this application be continued. The sign is a pole sign advertising U-Save Liquors. The lower section on that pole should not be there and no permit has been Found for it so' needsfurther researching. Slides were shown of the sign under discussion. The cob"ittee unanimously agrr d to continue thjq,, 'ication. ® A M HC_gg lahTTES OF THE ntJOUST 1973,H=COV.M L'D1 MVd ='` rx�s .•. Page `18 U\'F1h1=:D BUSINESS Member Sallan said zhe was still getting calls from Harbara "k0gars about holes in parking lot at Portal Plaza. Ass. Kramer said since resurfacing was done, it is private property and the City has no jurisdiction until • the City is contacted. Further research will be cone and committee given a written report. Chairnan Mc Laren asked to have photos taken at 76 Service Stat3.on at Bubb Road and .:cClellau. She noted the big trees are dying,, there are trucks and stacks of tires in back and visual, evidence of rwjor overhaul work being done. Site noted also some barrier should be erected as cars are knocking over trees. She requested a shot be taken from Bubb Road. Chairman 'YcLaren also pointed out an area needing raintenance.by State Highway Department. Mariber Weinstein asked when change of sign ordinance could..be =considered. He was given a brief: rundoctn ort what had been done with :a fi t draft having been submitted. it was noted there should be some clarification of intensity included In study. Member Sallan suggested f4yrt4er meetings when General.Plan is completed relative to, standard conditio.", Member Koenitzer referred to newspaper racks. 11r.' Cowan said the staff was making a study. PostOffice and newspaper rcprescn_-atives ,•ere to meet :with the committee regarding a solution. MEni ber .Koenitzer said his wain objection was puttint., the racks_on public sidewalks. NEW BUSINESS: None ADJOURAMOT Aember Sallan moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to adjourn to the next regular meeting on August 22, 1973 at 7:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at 11:48 p.m. Motion carried, 4--0 APPROVED: _ �- li►airman ATTEST: CityVlerk CITY OF CUPERTINO T 0 V11I "fit � a�c-89 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Page 1 Telex hone: 252--4505 MI:3itTES OF THE REGULAR I4EET1NG,*0F ,TH9 ARCHIMECTURAL.AND,-SITE' APPROVAL t COMMITTEE OF AUGUST 22, 1913 IN THE: LIBRARY CON kENCL.;;R00M, CITY HALL., CUPERTM, CALIPORNIA CALL TO ORDER The meeting was convened at 7:37 p.m. by Chairman Haaran.; ROLL CALL Members present: Koenitzer, 5allan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren Members absent: Dressler Staff present: Senior Planning Technician Toby Kramer Recording Secretary Ruth. Cox APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of the regular meeting of August 8, 1973. Member Koenitzer noted that paragraph 9 of. <page 13 should nhaw•, that, Mr. McBain did not know how many branches would have to be removed. Member Koenitzer pointed out on page 17 that motion carried should read 3-0-1-1. Member Sallaa said she would make corrections at next meeting.-as she,,had; forgotten to bring her notes. Member Weinstein moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to approve the Minutes minutes as corrected. Member Sallan abstained. approved as corrected Motion carried, 3•-0-1 POSTPONEMENTS: Staff member Kroner reported that item 8 on agenda, Golden West Si-n Company (Lambert's Photo), was postponed since neither party could be p::esr.nt. It was so a1oved. WEUETEN CO,tDXJJNICATIONS: none None p HC-89 MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, 1973 H--CONTROL MEETING Page 2 PUBLIC HEARINGS: tr :!C-51,050.3 1. Application tiC-51,050.3 of John Brooks Boyd repreFent ng Bank of Bank of Ameri0_a'�req`uestinig lixception to-the Sigci.Ordthd iiie to taTlW -the Azrerica the: installatiiift of. three additional, ident .f idatiol s'I&k for the Battik of Americui at -the north- side.- of Stevens C`reck Boulevard approximately 300 feet west of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. Staff report: Staff member Framer noted this application had, been= heard at the June 20, 1973 meeting at which time the committee had requested the pale aign be dropped from 20' to som4thln,4 less to conform with•tthe Saich corner guidelines. The applicant is requesting approval of a sign exception to 41low five signs for the Bank of America -building; two are allowed. The-re are four mounted wall signs on building and one ground sign. Slides were shown of the Bank of America signs mounted on the bui:ldiug facade and the bank logo. Also the ground s1gn and the modification to the ground sign. The ground sign will be the same sign as on the pole but will be mounted In a concrete base. It will be placed in the land- scaped area on Stevens Creek Boulevard. Member Weinstein noted these are the same signs as on the original appli- cation to which the committee had voiced its objections. The Bank of America signs are of 1.2" letters and the Togas are 3'8' x V . There is a total of 238 square -feet, for the five signs; allowed is 201 square feet. Member Weinstein couldn't understand why the applicant, having received the coaLmittee's guidelines, was asking for an exception. Chairman`McLaren pointed out there are criteria for exceptions. Member Koenitzer suggested that before hearing the application, the committee should discuss the guidelines for this corner as this was the second sign application. He would like to define and apply criteria for guidelines. Chairman McLaren pointed out the building was already built and had had identification for many years; also the applicant had agreed to the lower- ing of the sign to 10' . Mr. John Floyd, architect for Bank of America, Palo Alto, indicated the two fronts of the building and pointed out the building is exposed to streets on three sides. The bank was asking to put up a logo that would be seen from the street; present logo can only be seen from Stevens Creek Boulevard by traffic going west. They were asking to have a logo on north side because this side would eventually Face onto the rive acre development of Saich. Fie also pointed out letters that say Bank of America are recessed 10' in back of a canopy. Because of placement of signs and exposure of building, the bank did not feel this was an unreasonable request. MINUTES OF THE AUGUST. '-22, 1'9?3 X-COXTRDL MERT-MG BC-89 Page 3 Chairman.McLaren react- Section 10.4 of :the .Sign Ordinanicle :covering exceptions and.:explained a written reason,:f:6r. granting _the.excep= Lion would have to be presented to the City Council. Member Koenitxer said the sign ordinance granted two signs, He, felt one monument sign in front and logs on worth would cover all directions and give all the identification: needed for anyone coming ; from any direction. He said he would like to see a smaller sign_ in front; something not over 8' x 8' . Ms. Kramer pointed out the Home Savings sign is 12'. Member Weinstein commented that building and landscaping plans are fine. Sign pinn is the worst. it •iiolates ordinance. Structure can be identified adequately with monument sign and logo and there is no necessity for other signs. The committee had set forth guidelines and would not reverse previous position. Chairman McLaren pointed out that the committee could recommend approval of exception to the City Council if they so wished. Mr. Boyd said he did not feel in this particular case: the ordinanc applied. There are three fronts on the building. He ,then, :asked i�a the monument sign and two logos would be ,acceptable, to the co:mmtte' , ® Member Weinstein said he would not ,go,for monument-sa gas being 10' tall. Mr. Boyd referred .to signs at Gemco and other.sites in the vicinity. He said only the top half of an 8' pylon sign could be seen from cars. Chairman McLaren ascertained service station sign at corner radius would affect visibility from turn at Highway 9 going west. Mr. Boyd said with sign at 10' height, they would need logo to afford view from cars. He offered.to remove Bank of America signs from the walls under the canopy. Chairman McLaren asked if staff had checked about ruling on exist- ing signs. Ms. Kramer said there was a temporary permit for movin sign, but other signs had not been approved as succ. at the time th building was constructed. Member Sallan said the disappointing part of the app.lica'ti.on \:l:as that guidelines trere not considered. The guideli.iics liad bee:i set " up to avoid this type of. situzation. She did not set: any reaso;i for granting an. exception. Logo on north and south seemed aup!-o- pr.iate. She suggu,sted leaving situation nad considering it tempts ary ,intil specific guidelines were set up, Mr. Boyd said three of the signs are: existing; the pole sign uh icil will be lowered, Bank of America sign and one logo. He noted i.hcy had added 28' to building and installed a road going around three sides of building and added one logo. HC_89 MINUTES of THE: AUGM as, 1973 i NTROL SUNG; ,;a Vage 4 Member Sallan aald lower and fewer slgiw,vete -wanted.; She.,,fel ' the building h;Yd adequate ideuttfication and the application;wa>d making, oryexcessive s i ring. Mr. Boyd asked, about keeping the ,signing that was. existing. =�*,Vat*er"Koenitzer asked the staff member if a change in logo had gone throug1v *40-dntrol. Ms. Kramer said she had not come across this in the file.- Hank-had. been there about 15• years and Chairman McLaren questioned whether the.sib could be taken away. She :suggested a continuation to allow' iuxther reseArch. Ms. Kramer said that ground signs could remain, but wall signs could be changed when there was a change in building. Member Weinstein said he coula aot see Saich guidelines allowing this exception. He asked about a continuation, feeling this application *was an attempt to ignore guidelines and he would like to see a new applica- tion that conformed to guidelines. There was no way this could be acceptable. Chairman McLaren '-referred to Section 10.4 as cause for giving .considera- tion to the applicant. She pointed. out instances where Council seemed to feel this cou; dmtee was being too restrictive to applicants. Chairman McLaren then asked the applicant if he would like -to continue the application or have the committee take a -vote. Mr. Boyd said he would not have proposed these signs if 3t were not proper.-` He.felt another look should be taken at the guidelines and perhaps some, people should not be so arbitrary. Chairman McLaren muted that when the bank went in there was no indication there would be a road going around the 'bauk. Since the property was surrounded with frontages, this should be taken into consideration. Mr. Boyd pointed out the logo on the east wall gave design to building ' since it was a rather blank :wail. He agreed it would be possible to see logo and sign at the same time. The entrance to the bank. from Stevens Creek Boulevard is one way with exit on further roadway. If Bank of America signs bothered the committee, these could be removed. Mr. Anthony Andcich, representative of Bank of America, said it was a bank policy to direct customers to entrances of doors which was reason for location of .signs, but they would be willing to give up these "directional" signs. After further discussion, Chairman McLaren noted this was a Public Hearing and invited comments from the au6ience. There were none. P111)].ic Ilear- Member Weinstein moved, seconded by Member Saban, to close Public Hearings. ings closed Motion carried, 4-0 MINUTES OF AKUr ��i.' k;!�}��1� � �°` .,�.x `�i:r ,.3 =a...i` Page 5 A discussion followed as to how this motion shonld r dl 'x At the request of Mr. Boyd, the committee agreed to reopen Public Public Hear- Hearings.-. y =r ings reopone Mr. Boyd Fagan eetQred.,his, petition for; the pylon sign as proparsed and the two loges,with- the bank removing.the. Bank .of -Amid wall signs. The height of the pylon sign was then discussed, and compared with signs in nearby vicinity Mr.,Boyd pointed-out a 101,pigm is needed because Stevens Creek Boulevard Is -so heavi11 ._traveled and the traffic moves so fast;.. -He then indicated that_ :rather than have application continugd,. he would Trefer to_ have applica- tion denied and appeal to the Council if proposed,°sign and two logos were not acceptable. Chairman McLarea..said-.she did not think a denial was viecessrry when there could be. an agreement. She suggested a.motion sor: Council,would have some, guidelines to the- committee', thinking,, Member Weinstein noted• it was, imperative that a plan- for the, area be arrived o at son. After further discussioA, Member h'gl.nstein moved, seconded by Public Hear- Member Sall,an,. to close Public Hearings, ings closed Motion carried, 4-0 Member Weinstein moved that Application HC-51,05!U.3 fax:a request = HC-51,050. 3 of- sign exception be approved,, subject to. standar&H-Coatrol condi approved w/ tions, Exhibits F and F-1, and the following specific modifications` conditions and conditions: (1) Than the ,ground sign on Exhibit F be reduced -in height to 8' from existing sidewalk level.. No other changes are required-of ground sign. - s: (3) That two logos be allowed on building facade on north and cast elevations. (3) No other signs of any bind, including the letters of Bank of America, be allowed on facade or anywhere else, excluding window. Notion was seconded by Member Sallan. i s+:,.: 4 HC-89 MINUTES OF ThE AUGUST 22, 1973 :114COt$TWL MEETINIM Page 6 AYES: Members Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: .Hbmbbt Koeniraer ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 3-1 The applicant was informed this would be heard before the City Council on September 4, 1973. Exception was allowed because of exposure of building to three streets. HC-51,058.6 2. Application HC-51,058.6 of Peter Blacklock (Ecor•omy Imports) Economy requesting exception to the Sign Ordinance to al'._'i the Imports installation of one over-sized identification sij, . ;'-)r Economy Imports located at the southwest corner of Scofi�-' n Dr '.ee and Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. Staff report: Ms. Kramer reported the application had been before the committee for charge of copy. This application ::Ps requesting approval of an exception to the Sign Ordinance for a sign that was non-conforming. There are two signs on the building; one sign is Economy Imports which is 93 square feet; 73.8 square feet is allowed. Another sign on side of rho building is 24 square feet and because it is on the wall is subject to change or modification by the committee. Applicant had been asked to scale the sign down, but was asking for exception because sign already existed on building and because of misunderstanding of procedure. He had purchased the sign, not realizing it was in violation of the City Sign Ordinance. Slides were shown of the building, existing signs and other signs in the shopping center. Ms. Kramer pointed out Shoe Fair and Walker Lee signs which set a precedent for signs not conformir.--to black and white lettering. Mr. 'Teter Blacklock, owner of Economy Import..^, explained since he was last- before the committee, he had decided to take down the 24 square feet sign on the side, which would leave an overage of about 23 square feet. He had spoked to the sign maker about scaling existing 93 square feet sign down to 74' and had been told the present sign could not be cut down; 'he would have to buy a new sign. Member Weinstein said even if the sign were cut down, it would not aesthetically affect anything. Sign and shopping center are disasters. The City Council should understand it is not just the w�dinance and that cutting size of sign would nor help. Member Koenitzer recalled the applicant bad checked wi*h staff before purchasing bucket and was told it would ' ., allowed. If a new sign were coming in, he would want something a lot smaller. , but he felt there were extenuating circumstances in this case. i nr 41 MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, 1973 R-CONTROL MEETING KC-89 Page 7 C:zafiiih MAiren opened the Public lekking fotPcdf dnta ' rat#{ b audience: There were none. Member Koenitzer moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Matbbei Public Hear- Weinstein. iiq closed Motion carried, 4-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recoudmend approval of sign exception for HC-51,058.E Application HC-51,058.6, subject to standard H=Control conditions approved w/ and exhibits F and F-1, with the additional condition that the condition smaller sign on north side of building be removed, feeling exceptip falls under paragraph 10.4A of Sign Ordinance, extraordinary circum- stances not created by owner. Motion was seconded by Member Wein stein. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein And-Chairman, McLaren" NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant was informed this would be heard by the City Council; on September 4, 1973. 3.. ,Application HC-51,323.1 of:Ad--Art, Inc. representing HC-51,323.1 5ancho's Restaurant requesting approvsl'of site, architec- Sancho's ture and signing for a restaurant facility located at Restaurant 20030 Stevens Creek Boulevard. Because applicant was not present, the committee agreed to move Moved to end this item to the end of the meeting. of agenda 4. Application HC-51,015.15 of Edwin J. Myers (Cupertino HC-51,015.15 Crossroads Shopping Center) requestirig approval of site Crossroads 4 modification and landscaping for tie parking area between Shopping Marie Callender's and Mike'sru House in the Cupertino Center Crossroads Shopping Center. Staff report: Ms. Kramer noted a section of the parking l:)t had been reviewed when Marie Callender's, went in. One discussion was planter strip in front facing Stevens Creek be 7' to 10' ; applicant has made it 5' to allow for parking. Modifications to site plan for circulation reasons wcr_e pointed ot4t by the use of slides. _SQ I4IRti M OF THE AUGUST 22, 1973 H-00 OB. MEETING Page S Amber tltoenitzer questioned if there were airy corSre�e= bumpers to make sua traffic did not go into one way lane. Hs. Kramet..said there Would be directional arrows. The applicant said there were bumpers or 'each parking space. Slides of the shopping center were shown. Mr. Edwin Myers, 10601 So. Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, Cupertino, said there was not room for 7' landscaping; can..`Aarely get in 5' . He said planter strips would go around light poles. Chairman McLaren ascertained area is irrigated. ,. In answer to Member Weinstein's question as to whether it would screen autos, it was noted existing landscaping is about 1' in height. Member Sallan said. when the guidelines had been given, the main concern of the committee was that ars parked directly on frontage be screened. 5' of landscaping was better than none. Parked carry should' naf, be seen. The suggestion was that some type of shrubbery and'moundii4 to 'used to provide this effect. Thin had not been done. With the exception of two islands, proposal is unacceptable; will not do the job. There should be some type planting that grt:,as 5' in height,. A discussion was held regarding proposed plantings. Member Sallan pointed out that along Stevens Creek frontage ground cover could not be used as screening. Mr. 11yers said it was difficult to endup,with mounding on 5' strip. Member Sallan offered to give specific guidelines. Member Koenitzer asked staff if parking spacer, were limited, or could some be eliminated to obtain more than 5' strip. Ms. Kramer said the parking was very tight. Member Koenitzer noted that whatever is assigned should be extended to gas station at corner. He suggested a plant grouping that incorporated different heights so there is not a solid row of uniform height. Mr. Myers repeated not much mounding could be done in 5' space. If it were possible to omit several parking spaces, these could be included as mound with a tree. Member Sallan, suggested putting a tree in each planter at island, keeping ground cover and some shrubbery. Member Weinstein questioned the use of Pampas grass. Member Koenitzer asked if short strip by Mike's Hero could be 10' wide and Mr. Myers said he would be going into somebody else's lease to get a 5° planter. a � MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, ig?3 Ii-ONTRDL 14EMNG HG-89 Fage 9 Mawber SSallan,offered the guidelines that on major'ftontagee 5- gallon size plants should be used; trees that were to be used as accent should be 15-gallon size and shritobery should be'interspace with trees. Mr. Myers referred to the street trees and Chairman McLaren points out the City has a list of approved trees. Chairman McLaren announced this was a Public Hearing and opened the meeting to comments from the audience. There were none. Member Weinstein moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Public Hear- Member Sallan. ings closed Motion carried, 4-0 Member Sallan moved that Application i7C-51,015.15 be continued to KC-51,015.15 next regularly scheduled meeting with guidelines presented to the cont-n ued applicant. Member Weinstein seconded the motion. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 5. Application HC-51,015.18 of Edwin J. Myers representing HC-51,015.13 Golden Horn Restaurant requesting approval of the modifi- Golden Horn: cation of architecture for an existing restaurant facilit Restaurant located in the Cupertino Crossroads Shopping Center.. Staff report: Ms. Kramer said application was for change to entrance and facade of restaurant to create a small alcove. The existing exterior of the building is red brick and windows which would be replaced with ceramic tile on front of building. Small area for display would be retained and sign would remain the same. Slides were shown of existing structure, adjoining businesses and area, and rendering of proposed modifications. Member Weinstein commented he did net feel the sign could be a conforming one. Mr. `Myers explained the proposed modification, gave a brief background of Golden Horn Restaurant and the relationship covered by lease with the owner. a HC-89 MINUTES 07 THE AUGUST 22, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Page 10 -Member Weinstein raised the question if this Mould be an appropriate time to change the sign .if it were non-conforming. I Ms. Kramer read the ordinance covering this. Member Xoenitaer poitit6d but al]t`°tC - tts on the p zrapet are of "coniparable size. Mr. Myers showed samples of tiles that would be used on the tretnt 'of the building. Member Weinstein ascertained the sign waa owned by Golden Horn Restaurant and the front of °the building by oi-:ner. He felt the committee should explore opportunity of making sign conforming: Air. Myers noted there is nothing in Golden Horn°s lease that says sign has to be approved. hie said he was willing to request l.essee'and owner to consider sign change. Member Koenitzer pointed out it might look out of place to get one sign upgraded and leave other aiga.s as is.. Member Sallan said she would also like to see the possibility ofhaving sign upgraded explored. Chairma-.s McLaren asked Mr. Myers to check and see what control owner has on liquor store and cleaners. In answer to Member Koenitzer, Mr. Myers said the tile would be 95% brown and 5% of the lighter shade. i Chairman McLaren announced this was a Public Hearing and opened the meeting for comments from the audience. There were none. Public Hear-- Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Fle—ber Weinstein, to close Public ings closed Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 HC-51,015.18 Member Koenitzer moved to continue Application HC-51,015.18 to the next cor.cinued regular meeting so that applicant can investigate possibility of sign revision. Seconded by Member Sallan. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ABSENT: 1hemher Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 At the staff members suggestion, the committee agreed to hear those applications next whose representatives were pi'^zieat. MINUTES OF THE AUQ ST 22, 1973 *-CDVML ETING; ,« HC 99 page; 11 7. Sandy's of Lodi Inc. (Rsd.Barn) requeeting,0ange of copy of an existing sign located at the northwest corner of Stevens CreeK Boulevard and Saich Way. Staff member. Kramer noted this was for a change of copy from Burger Chef to Red Barn. Slides were shown of existing sign, and surrounding area. Chairman McLaren asked if stipulation that trash be enclosed in brick had beer. researched, Ms. Kramer said that some modification was to be made but was not enfurced. It was felt this condition should be added to sign as stipulation. In answer to Member Weinstein's question as to whether there was an ordinance on trash enclosures, Ivs. Kramer said they gust be provided but she was not sure what applied to this type of establi h- ment. The receptacles shown in,front are for the custcmers' use. Chairman HcLaren noted there had been considerable discussi a on this. Air. John Chalios, 795 Sherwood, Los Altos, explained Aed Barn was taking a very short term lease of 18 months until they knew It_ would be successful. Member Sallan ascertained no changes were anticipated to .building. Member Koenitzer asked if pole could be painted white and the appli...:,t agreed to do this. Member Weinstein asked about trash containers. Concern was expressed about their being left in parking area. A location with shrubbery or enclosure of some type was required. The applicant said they would rather take them out than spend money at this time to screen enclosures. Member Koera.tzer noted containers are needed outside. The appli- cant said the ones to the front of the parking area were not neede . The applicant suggested painting them brown to blend with building' Chairman �McLaren asked the applicant to take a look and see if s they could be placed in a more inconspicuous spot. Member Koenitzer moved to approve change of copy for Red Barn or sign to be red letters on white background and requested applicant cc n:,prc,, c—d paint the sign pole white. Seconded by etc b_r Sal.lan. Motion carried, 4-0 AA in a i{C-89 MINUTES QE THE AUGUST 22, 1973 'H-CONTROL MEET103'. . Page 12 11C-51,323.1 3. Application 1dC-51,323.1 of Ad-Art, Inc. representing Sancho's Sattclto's Restaurant. Re s t att rant Staff report: Staff member Kram;4r said the building that exists houses Nite Kap and Sancho's; one building but two separate operations, Sancho's is having a problem with identification and a modification to exterior to achieve :individuality has been pry -,d. The present exterior is red brick with windows and would be replacr .n redwood paneling. Landscaping will remain as is. The sign on front of buile Ag will be 14-1/21; 147' is allowed. The applicant would take "Sancho's" from pole sign. Staff did not know if sign would be left blank or if Nite Kap would use it. Member Weinstein questiored conformity of sign. Ms. Kramer pointed out it was a pole sign with can an intregal part of s,.ructure. Ms. Kramer said a small entrance sign at drii.vny was proposed. Sign would be approximately 0 high. Lettering would be the same colors as ;a Sancho's sign on building. Member Koenitzer asked to see a reproduction of the Sancho's sign to verify colors. Mr. Vernon Burgess,1607 Terminal Avenue, San Jose, described colors and showed draw;ngs of what is planned. lie explained modification. Member Weinstein commented the architectural modification was acceptable; problem was signs. Mr. Burgess said Hite Kap owns pole sign and Sancho's leases space on it. Sancho's does not want to be included on Nite Kap sign. I-e ��Iso explained the reason for the entrance sign. A br' _f discussion was held as tl) what would be done to sign if Sancho's removed. Member Weinstein asked if two signs on wall of Nite Kap side could be removed. Ms. Kramer said Nite Kap could be asked to remove them, but if they refused, she didn't know what could be done. It was suggested a condition might be made that no copy be put in vacated portion o` ,ign. Mr. Burgess pointed out that all owner was willing to do was sign appli- cation. Sancho's was paying for all madifications. A discussion, was held as to what could be required of a lessee in terms of upgrading landscaping. The consensus was that this would be the responsibility of the owner. In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Burgess said the purpose of multi-colors on Sanche's was to give a happ; feeling. Member Weinstein said he would prefer one earthen color, and asked to see samples of the plastic letters to be used for the sign. ; .. k = i s MINUTES 8F TiiE AViS '2 - AItO} ` ?EY ti €? fag 113 A recess was call6d at 10:15 rp.m. to allow Applicant to,got ,sampl s of sign material. The meeting was reconvened at 10:23 p.m. The applicant had not been able t® locate samples. Membet Weinstein said he would have to take applicant's word that sign would not b� gaudy as he was not qualified to judge. Member Sallan said she thought thr proposed colors would function as advertising. Mr. Burgess said the colors were intended to promote a warin and friendly, feeling. Member Koenitzer noted it was a Mexican restaurant and Mexican colors are bright. The intensity of the illuminat_on was discussed. Mr. Burgess said tress: are individual letters with no background. Chairman McLaren noted this was a Public Hearing and opened the meeting to comments from the audience. There were none. Me:.iber Weinstein moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Public Hear- Koenitzer. ings closed Marion 'carried, 4 4 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC-51,323.1 to the City Council , subject to standard H--Control conditions, Exhibits HC-51.,323.1 A, B, F and i-1, and the following special conditions: approved w/ COITdltiot:5 (1) That the colors o.'L* the illuminated Sancho's sign on building be subdued and blend well together. (2) That Mile sign at the driveway entrance be reduced in size to 3' high x 3-1/2' long and read "F.nter0e rather tbiin entrant e. Letters to be colored with -same colors as Sancho's sign on building. (3) mai, the Sanebo's material be taken off the reader board on ttiu `,ite I'ap �:ign and Sancho's not advertise anything on bo itd. Cha.irintin 1T,1cL:_,_ .n sCer.on(lly i rhEf motion. AY 11_'S ,Icimbors Roen.itzer, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren AI=S!,'.NT: Alomiber Dressler 3-0-1,lotion carried. } e w T ITC-89 MIMTES OF THE A 22, 127 *-C , OL 1MP,= Page 14 Member Sallan noted stirs had abstained because of her, concern with colors In sign, not with modi.fiCotion,of architecture, Chairman McLaren informed the applicant this would be beard before the City Council on September 4, irj73. IIC-96,109.4 6. Application HC-96,10.4 of City of Cupertino requesting approval City of of landscaping of the City water tank located at the end of Cupertino Mercedes Road. Staff report: Its. Kramer said the landscaping plans had been drawn up by the City employees and were intended to screen two water tanks, one existing and one proposed for some future date. The ground cover is to aid in erosion control. The landscaping is mainly ground cover with trees around it. Slides were shown of area and water tank. The proposed trees are easily maintained. Ground cover should stop run-off problem. Chairman McLaren questioned irrigation of trees and ground cover. Member Weinstein noted the native plantings should not requite` much watering after they are established. Public Hear- Member Sallan moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member ings closed Weinstein. Motion carried, 4-0 HC-96,109.4 Member Sallan recommended approval of Application HC-96,109.4 with approved standard H-Control conditions and Exhibit C, paying attention to the committee's concern for adequate irrigation of project. The motion was seconded by Member Weinstein. AXES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: Noce ABSENT: Member Dressler Potion carried,, 4-0 UNFINISPED BUSINESS: Member Weinstein referred to modification of ordinances. He said he had been disappointed for several reasons at City Council meeting. Council can grant or reverse this committee's decision merely according to ordinance, while dealing with problems with less information than ASAC has. He felt the committee had quite a lot of home work to do _• `fi ,,ems•�'�? �,F 4r {�' g c i MINUTES OF THE AUditT 22, 1-973` H--Cd ROL. MkiTI G Page 15 In getting ordinances fixed up and the longer this was dragged out, the worse things would get. He proposed this -:ammitice each take a certain section of the ordinance and go over it in detail with proposed modification to get something to begin with. He said he felt Marie Callender's would be in asking to change sign when they see Bumbleberry's sign. Member Koenitzer pointed out that Marie Callender's had requested that size sign even though there were larger signs already in adjacent areas. Chair an NcLaren said she did not think the Council had reversed the decision on Bumbleberry simply because of ordinance, 'but because the applicant had been able to show the proposed sign blended architecturally with the building. Member Weinstein suggested that when Council wants to overrule a decision by H—Control, perhaps the application should be sent back to this committee. A discussion then ensued over procedures and process involved. Chairman 14cLaren noted there have been very few reversals and explained when the Council gets a specific complaint and there is an ordinance covering it, they must consider it further. With rehard to study of ordinance, she noted Member Koeni.tzer had covered :it thoroughly and submitted a report. She suggested Member Weinstein submit his ideas in writing and when Mr. Cowan got back t, from vacation & special meeting could be arr,angee'-. Member Weinstein said he felt this committee should meet with staff and work or. Saich property. Chairman �Icl.aren said if the agenda would permit, perhaps it could be added to the next meetia g. Chairr;un Mcl.aren asked Ms. Kramer if pictures had been taken of 76 sarvice station at Bubb Road and Stevens Creek $oulCvae4 Slides were shown of :station and the dying trees and ivy. �T'ruck,; Caere si7own that have been parked there fo.r rno::ths indicating major overhaul wort: :Yas being done. There ware tr.eee knocked over by tsm pers of czars; stops needed to pioteet Lhe trees. It was reported thrit A:r. Swath has been out to sate and would contact o,:mer of station again. Chairman Mr-Larea asked that the Catty AtLorny be contacted as to what could lie done. Member Sallan noted that Portal Plaza resurfacing was being done. ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE MINUTES 6 of 12 01/03/1973 - 12/19/1974 MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 21, 1973 H-CONTROL FETING, age 7 3. Application KC-51,283.4 of Stoneson Development Corporation C-51,283.4 requesting approval of site, architecturure, landscaping, tones on grading and signing for The Oaks Shopping Center located at velopmant the nortiiwest corner of Mary Avenue and•Stevens Creek Boulevard. Staff report: The Associate Planner showed slides of site, poirting out areas that would be under special scrutiny. Regarding the site plan, previous action involving use permit approval was based on different landscaping. A revised plan ha:; been submitted. The . Planning Commission and City Council in talking about beautifying Stevens Creek Road had suggested bike paths and a minute order asked staff to investigate bike lanes with bicycle movements integrated in site. Scaff concluded bike lane would be difficult to achieve withou sacrificing landscaping or parking spaces. He distributed drawings of four possible solutions. ' Mr. Cowan said the Director of Public Works felt there should be a space between the sidewa'-'- and the bike lane. Mr. Cowan'pointed out there is a bike lane on the De Anza side of Stevens Creek Boulevard and differentiated between the terms "lane" and "path",• noting what was desired on the shopping center side was a path for bicycles. After'pointing out problems that might be incurred, such as there being too many uses involved which would prohibit the city from insisting on bicycle paths along the entire frontage )f Stevens Creek Boulevard, Mr. Cowan noted it might not be feasible or desirable but the potential of bike paths should be evaluated. Member Weinstein expressed his concern that landscaping existing on the Sandpiper site did not cover or even screen cars. In answer to Member Koenitzer, Mr.- Conan said the elevations of buildings -could not be completely submitted, as the owners did not know who tb.e users would be. What was submitted were typical eleva- tions that would be used. Member Koenitzer said he would like more detailec rendeiingof buildings as he had no feeling for over-all appearance with what was submitted. Member Weinstein ascertained from Vice-Chairman Sallan that all sign- ing would be handled at the same time. Mr. Cowan reported the staff felt there should be provisions for short• stalls in the parking lot. Mr. Arthur Schumacher, 3150 20th Avenue, San. Francisco, representative for Stoneson Development Corporation, said he was concerned about safeness of bicycle path at two points: (1) movement of traffic on e x xC-94 MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 21, 1973 Ii-CONTROL MUTING Page 8 Stevens Creek Boulevard trying to get on the freeway and (2) movement of traffic onto Mary Avenue into shopping center. Member Koenitzer noted these hazards existed whether there were bicycle paths or noti Mr. Schumacher said the Sandpiper only leases the building from Stoneson Development Corporation; the grounds .are maintfained by the Corporation. Mr. Page of Bakke/Page, 20430-J Town Center Lane, said one thing should be clarified. They had submitted a complete colored rendering of all buildings 2-1/2 years ago and the City still had them. They were approved and the only change is the addition of the theater. Mr. Cowan advised that ac`aal building for'balance of center had not been approved. Member Weinstein asked about the possibility of extending width of Landscaping area sc bike path could be added and still keep necessary parking spaces. Mr. Page said they were at City's required limi Q now and nothing could be-moved. The Associate Planner suggested delaying on this aspect until a written report could be made. Mr. David Heldt of Browne/Heldt Associates, 730 Montgomery Street, San Francisco; -landscape architect, said they had 12' to work with so he would suggest that it was not necessary to have complete :separa- tior. of sidewalk and bike path: If the existing sidewalk were to be widened to 8' or 9 , this would accomodate both pedestrians and bike riders and leave about 8' for landscaping. He then spoke to drainage situation. He said planting at saw level as sidewalk would provide screening. Vice-Chairman Sallan ascertained the grade separation' would be a maximum of 2-1/3' to 3'. Member Weinstein asked about area in front of Sandpiper Restaurant. Mr. Heldt said it was 10' with landscaping and sprinkler system. ' He felt this 10' would be adequate for bicycle path. Member Dressler asked about bike lane along Stevens Creek Boulevard when Stevens Creek widened to 8 lanes. Mr. Cowan said Mr. Glenn, Griggof the staff was !strongly biased against combining bicycle :and pedestrian sidewalks. Vice-Chairman Sallan asked about narrowing car lanes to allow for bicycle lane. She said site was uncomfortable with application. She enumerated her reasuas for fee.iing a continuation was in order. Mr. Canaan pointed out: that bicycle situation had come up at City level only two days ago. After further discussion, Vice-Chairman Sallan pointed out other., problems in site, architecture and signing. f • a MI14UTES OF THE NOVEMBER 21, .1913 #-Ca t3L 1�" T1�L► #' >�; ��* T; Member.Koenitzer questioned having break,in all roofs excelt the ® theater's. Mr. Page said i.t,would be virtually hidden by the adja_ cent two story building and explained why this slr,pe was needed. ' Vice-Chairman Sallan asked if applicant could bring a raore: detaile.d drawing of the theater. Member Koenitzer said he would like to see drawings of all four elevations o% theater; also other buildings. Mr. Page said they had working drawings of all .buildings but theater` and these would be submitted.. Vice-Chairman Sallan said she had suggestons on landscaping but did noc feel at this point she could give. specifies. Member Weinstein said trees on 100' centers were not sufficient. In discussing mounding, Mr. Heldt said mounding was not a practical thing. Member Koenitzer said he' felt 2' of mounding could be gotten on the 12' frontage. Member Weinstein noted that sufficient screen- ing of cars is a necessity. 3' mounding with Z' shrubi should be adequate. Mr. Heldt pointed out they would be dropping parking lot because of drainage from buildings. He was not sure that cars were not wanted to be seen; it should look like a commercial development to be successful. Vice-Chairman Sallan felt it would be useful. to provide 'guid6limek. The essential point is this is different from interior of property. Those cars abuting sidewalk 'should not be seen. It was ascertained screening landscaping would strive for,106% elimination of automobiles around periphery. Vice-Chairman Sallan said she would like the applicants to receive a cop} .of her guideline . Mr. Page asked if they could address themselves to the theater sign as the whole development centered around the theater. Member Koenitzer inquired if there would be any further pruning of Oak trees on site. When Mr. Heldt said no, Member Koenitzer said he felt that some of the branches mic,ht be trimmed. 'Mr. Heldt said this was one reason for single level buildings. Mr. Heldt asked if there was an injury related to bicycle path, who would be responsible. Mr. Cowan said he assumed the City would assume responsibility. Vice-':hairman Sallan summarized three concerns of the committee. (1) Relative to bicycle path, the applicant should work with staff to provide a reasonable solution or alternative. (2) Relative to architecture, the applicant should provide more detailed plans. (3) Relative to landscaping, the applicant should consider guide- lines relative to screening of cars along Stevens Creek Boulevard and Mary Avenue frontage. HC-94 MINUM OF THE NOVEMBER 21, -1973 g Tkft ING P age 10 Membear Weinstein said since the lighting is a continuation df=that iced at sandpiper, this was satisfactory. Member .Koenitzes agreed. , HC-51,283.4 Member Dressler moved to continue application HC-51,283.4 tope t'the contin tie d applicant to re-present entire site, architecture, landscaping and grading plans. 14ember Koenitzer seconded the motion. AYES. Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Weinstein and Vice-Chairman 8allan NOES: None Lotion carrip , 4-0 Relative to signing, Mr. Cowan said the sign program is a straight forward one. The applicant is asking for a blanket approval for the shop signs which will be a maximum size of 18-sq. ft. All signs for the shops are within the Sign Ordinance. Member Weinstein said he had no objection to the size, of the signs. He questioned why-, .ince the architecture is Spanish motif, the interior signing is -illuminated red and white. he questioned the necessity 'of lighting on interior signing. The Planning Commission has made note' of their co»- _a of signing and he would suggest a toning. down of colors. Vice-Chairman Sallan said she had similar concerns and said 'she thought white with brawn letters might be better. Member Koenitzer noted there. would be security lighting around building and expressed concern with intensity of lighting. ?Member Weinstein moved to amend motion to continue application to 'include :lotion signing. Seconded by Member Dressler. amended - . AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Weinstein and Vice-Chairman NOES: hone Amendment carried, 4-0 Staff member Cowan suggested the committee give the applicant some direction with regard to the theater. It is the major tenant, and thus is usually given some leeway. Member Weinstein said his major concern is the large ground sign although he realizes the theater dust: have a large ground sign. The actual signing on theater .could be small. Mr. Roy Cooper, 988 Market Street, San Francisco, theater representative, said without adequate signing there could be no treater. He noted this theater is behind a building on Stevens Creek Boulevard. They had wanted 4 lines for each of tine three theaters, but had compressed the request to 3 lines to keep signing down to 20' which is within the Sign Ordinance. The marquee is their showcase. The reader board could not be too low • MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 21, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING C-94 .. * age 1I because of vandalism.: The �alx sign would ;'pie_the, s .a--zhe,:others in the center. _ member Ne3:nstein said he'understooci:rMr. lcdoparla°feed but the, difficulty is the siae 4. Application HC-51,283.41 of Stoneson Development Corporatian C-51,283.4I requesting:exceptioa to Sect4--an b 13 of the Sign Ordinance to allow the installation of two additional signs for The Oaks Shopping Center located at the northwest .comer of Mary Avenue and Stevens Creek Boulevard. Staff report: By City Ordinance ,Stoneson .Development Corporation is allowed one sign on Zary Avenue and one on ,Stevensr -Creek Boulevard.. The request is for one shopping cents sign plus two ground signs. Vice-Chairman,Sallan noted that 6m- fferent sec*.ions of the. Sign Ordinance say different t►Aings. Mr. Cowan answered Member- Weigs'tein ;that .the Sandpiper Restaurant's intention was to leave the sign as it is, and actually should :have been included on agenda. Mr. Schumacher said he does not approve 'of sign as it exists. It is illuminated by spots that protrude from the ground. He was consider ing having the lights dropped into the ground. Member Koenitzer gave a brief background .of the Sandpiper sigq to Member Weinstein. Vice-Chairman Sallan said the committee should discuss whether they feel there are certain uses that wprrant separate signing« aha. felt the theater marquee would certainly'be included in this consideration. Mr. Page said'he felt one ground sign rather than two wall signs on Sandpiper Restaurant was preferable. Member Dressler, noting that sign went in on temporary permit, asked if Sandpiper would want to have sign permanently. Member Weinstein wanted to know what ,Sandpiper would come up ,with if ground -sign was denied. Mr. Cowan said they could be allowed two signs on the building. Member Weinstein said his major concern was the theater sign and he asked if there was any other concept that could be explored. Mr. Cooper said he did not know of aay other alternative except changing sign itself or changing color of back- ground. They had already cut .sign down. Mr. Ron Whitcanact, 110 N. 3rd Street, San Jose, representing the Sandpiper Restaurant, said he did not think the ordinance had taken into consideration the theater. They do need this type of sign. Relative to the Sandpiper, there is a division between the Sandp'�per and the center. Other restaurants have their own signs. The Sandpipe is a credit to the community and the signs on the wall would detract from the building. Y O HC-94 MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 21, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Page 12 Member Weinstein said he would encourage Mx. Cooper to%-f1nd,-sdrffi alternative for the, 20' s1p. He 1mls,The Oaks is in. excellent •sift;# 3evod1d like to continue this sign+.ng to allow for more exploring.-�'mi; 'SehugWchaf said he was willing to ask the architect and designers to attempt to re-evaluate all the signs and°rdsub,_Lt them. . He -hoped the committee under ood the theater is p<redieated an getting adequate signing. Member Koenitze-r Questioned the length of The Oaks sign. Vice-Chairman Sallan noted the committee seemed to be in agreement that adequate use of theater in a center seems to warrant a sign. 1t 'is the design that is of concern. HC-51,283.41 Member Weinstein do sed to continue application %C-51,283.41. Member continued Koenitzer seconded the motion. AYES:- Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Weinstein and Vice-Chairman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 UNFINISHED BUSINESS: HC-51,088.15 5 Landscaping modification for McDonnel -Douglas:hui=lding Mtn Bubb Road. Staff report: `The Associate Planner said this was -a cesul;t'-of-the hew program to compare-site to 'approved 'plans. There were .some difference 'between the approved plans and the ins°tallations. There were-two primary `differences. Live Oak trees around the periphery were changed to Elm trees and_Jasmine had been'substituted by ivy. Vice-Chairman Sallan expressed concern these changes were `made:,wlthout consulting the City. Mr. J, Sobrato, 2775 Middlefield Road, Palo Alto, toted they had been subject to what was available. He referred to the freeze last 'Year which rendered certain plants unavailable in California. He explained the reason for changing from Live Oak trees to Elms was that lawn would not be a suitable ground cover as the watering caused root disease. So they had changed to Elm trees. Under questioning by the committee, Mr. Sobrato noted that the Elm trees were 15-gallon size and that the ivy was faster growing ground cover than the Star Jasmine. Vice-Chairman Sallan commended the staff for going out. She noted the applicant's feeling that the city was asking for working drawings, at a preliminary stage. • MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBIER 21, 1973 H-C NTROL MEETING gC-9�� Page 13 Member Dresslet- roved to- approve landscaping-modift cat iond Of- applications RC-51,08&.15 according,, to kxhibit Ai Seconded.by, Member Codification Koenitzer. a pproved Motion carried, 4-0 NEW BUSINESS: 6. Discussion of landscaping policies for Architectural and Site Approval. Vice-Chairman Sallan noted Council had asked that committee meet with them relative to landscaping guidelines and she wanted to set a date. Air. Cowan suggested having a representative of the Horticultural Society ifteet with the committee to give input before they went to Council. Member Koenitzbr noted some cons4.deration should •be given to the economics of planting procedure. Vice-Chairman Sallan said f she believed aesthetics should come before economics. 3 D After a brief discussion, Nllonday, December 17, was scheduled for a meeting with a professional landscaper in the library conference room at 7:30 p.m. Vice-Chairman Sallan suggested her guidelines be evaluated. Mr. Cowan advised that the city had ordered a set of books which r ---.,uld be of value in setting guidelines. Relative to guildelines for the Council, iember Dressler suggested 'using those submitted by Vice-Chairman Sallan. These ;were then . discussed at length with several minor alternations being made. Vice-Chairman Sallan said these should go to the Council in the form of a resolution with notation that when they held their joint meeting they could arrive at a philosophy compatible to everyone. These can then be incorporated into standards. In addition she would like a copy of these to go to whatever developers are coming in. The sug- gested changes should be sent back before any changes are made or final action is taken. Regarding technical and design aspects, the staff suggested hiring a landscape architect. Vice-Chairman Sallan said she would consider it providing it wasn't r1r. Coleman. Member Weinstein noted he had just as much hassle with lighting and signing. Member k'einstein said that sometimes landscaping was not the solu- tion to some problems, but that architecture was,, r NOVEMER 21,. 197'3 D-C.#}�" ISM +SST hG-9 PiI�tT%F. OF THE Page lk After further discb6sion, � mbe. Koemitke LLoovfiC 'Per Adjou'cnn-'nt be ad ournod sit u =,. ... seconded, that the meeting regular meeting on Doceaber 5, 1973. 14oti on cArried, 4-0 APPROVEM, Chat ATTEST: City Clerk 111 • CITY OF CIM'ORTINO page 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Telephone: 252-4505 7 .>.S 3 - .,F r s MY HOUTES OF THE REGULAR MEitfl OF THE 7iAt�1973 IN THE �C�ajAMBER,�Z TY V carrE aF DE s`CERTuvacALIFORIL NIA SALME 0 TdE FLAG The meeting was opened at 7:37 p.m. by Chairman McLaiten with the Salute to the Flag. Ro7LL CALL Koenitzer, Weinstein, Sallan and*Chairman Meyers present: ' McLaren Members absent: Dressler staff present: Associate Planer Robert APPROVAL OF MINUTES_. lax %eting of November 21, 1.973 minutes a€ Rego - < ., wes' Caa.vd Member xoenitzer noted the first word .dn line 81k. Ra4e � in the same paragraph, Member Weinstein said the ,i} Stf ,eitiaea calling was Ellenor Kane on Vista Knoll 'Y Member Weinstein pointed out on gage 39 paragiaph 7`, dine 5, Ehe word "illuminate" should be "illumi.nation", aragraph 5 on ' gage "read '41t was ricer- Member Sallan asked that P would strive far 10tlE,eliminatan of taineA screening landscaping i sesxed" ` autot biles around peripherq", with parAg;aph S as part of this paragraph. ra p last paragraph, Member Sallan said opening sentence On page 9, should read "Vice-chairman Sallan summarized three concerns o€ the committee". The last sentence should read ". . .screening cars along Stevens Creek Boulevard and nary Avenue frontages on, page 13, paragraph 2, line 6 should read "to the economics of planting procedure". the last sentence should read "The suggests On page 13, paragraph 6, d changes should be ,eat back. ... .. . s s, MC-95 M MM OF THE DECIMER 5, 1973 M-*"'TWL T' Page 2 s November 21, Member Weinstein moved to approve minutes of November 21, 1073 as 1973 Minutes corrected. Seconde® by lamher Koeultzer. approved ttoia carried, 3-4. Chairman McLaren announced she would be absent from December 19 to January 7, 1974. She asked that Member Dressler be .notified ,so a. quorum would be present. A short discussion followed of possible future meeting dates. POSTPONEMENTS: None WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None ORAL COM UNICATIOTTS• None t PUBLIC HEARINGS: HC-51,088.151 1. Application HC-51,088.151 of Cal-Coast Sign Compmty McDonnell (McDonnell Douglas Cotpotafidd) requesting Optov Douglas of a sign plan for a light' industrial building located Corporation at the northeast corner of Bubb Road and McClellan Road in the West Valley Industrial Park. Staff Report: The eppliddAt -Is requesting an ideAtification 'sijj ` to be placed at the.Bubb ,_Road,entrance on the southerly corner of, the driveway on topF'ok at 3 ft.''`grass mound. The co16'r' 'WA9 Sao on e2&ibit on wall.' Ms. Kramer showed slides of site. It was ascertained the sign would be app roxitat e ly 7 ft. above' grade. Member Koenitzer said the sign was satisfactory but he questioned the 7 ft. However, since the mounding had been as&e%a" for, there was not much else that could be done. Chairman McLatea pointed out that location of site would indicate need for a atgn that was easily seen. Member Sallan wondered if a motion had ever been entertained for uniform signs in West Valley Park. Chairman McLaren pointed out j this was the last building in the Park. Member Sallan also noted j she thought the sign could be smaller. Chairman McLaren said they i were entitled to the same square footage as commercial but none of ° + that businesses had ever +ised full allowance. Member Weinst� ,A i expressed his appreciation that sign was not illuminated. Member Koenitzer said a sign this size could be seen at a 300 ft. range which was not unreasonable especially in view of its location. { 711 i MIMES OF THE DEC8 8r':5, l9l?�:l�£ONT ,RD1, �" . x .1{� �i a';W.3� page 3. Chaiizan McLaren operco3 the meet ng>for comments Prod then ajidteeeb,�. There were none. _.bnber Sall&n moved, seconded -by Meauber .Koenttaer, to cl.obe Public Public Hearing Hearings. closed notion carried, 4-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval to City Council of HC-51,088.151 Application HC-51,088.151, subject to standard H-Control conditions approved and Exhibits F and F-lo Seconded by Member Sallan. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Weinstein, Sallan and Chairmah NcLair6A NOES: None Motion carried, -4-0 The applicant was informed this would be heard by the City. Comdil-: at its December 17, 1973 meeting. , Application HC-51,330.1 of Charles.R "fredi requesting=a HC-51,330.1 approval of a sign plan for a commercial building located Charles at the northeast quadrant of :Stevens. Creek 8oadl.eeardend- Rifredi Adriana Avenue. Staff reports The requested sign is a painted call sign;that-will. be placed-along front elevation of building. Existing sign on top of building ;s 120 sq. ft. ,doable-faced sign. The proposed sign, is 120 sq. -ft.; the applicant is allowed 240 sq. ft. according .to ordinance. A diagram of the proposed sign was passed among the committee members. Slides were shown of the market and the existing sign. It was pointed ',gat that painted wall sign is typical of Monta Vista., Ms. Kramer pointed out that since a lot of the ,rrea is still in the County, the City has not had an opportunity to establish design guidelines or sign requirements. Chairman McLaren felt there probably will be many studies coming forth in this particular area. Member KoPnitzer said the sign on the roof was quite adequate to identify building. A sign on the front would not be readable except from almost directly in front -of store. It was ascartained that the applicant intended,to keep tte existing sign on top of the building and was requesting the wall sign as an ;additional sign. i { 3 BC-95 AINti'tES OF THE DE 5, 19:73 T90L MMUS Page 4 Zt.:was pointed out that under Section 7.23 and 7.0221 of S g&' nce, the applicant is allowed two signs. Member .iallan reminded tbb '6dffifiUe of the Walker-Lee application when the committee recommended one sign atd the COoocil allowed the applicant two signs beca€usey of the Ordiu&4 `prang. She said it was in the committee's Jurisdiction tc approve d3ib'iftih and not two. It was poor design on the part of the City to allow for maximm whenever asked for. Should AMend this section of Ordinance, particularly the word "entitled". Member Weinstein said he felt the Ordinance was clear and the City Council action was clear that with the interpretation of the City Attorney they are entitled to two rigns. At the same time he densn't line the idea. He hoped Monta Vista would"be maintained as pseu&v- rural. Since it appears that it might be a matter of only a few ' months until this is resolved, perhaps Mr. Rifredi would rather have the application continued until entire area can be defined. Member Sallan said she would prefer to deal with issues and change Ordinance rather than ask the applicant to wait for two months. She has checked with the staff and the City Attorney is looking into it. Chaimat McLaren pointed out that the City Council and Planning Commission are so busy at this point and after the General Plan is revised, this issue can be discussed. Mr. Mickey Garner, sign"painter representing Mr. Rifredii said he lived in Manta Vista area. He said Monta Vista has charactet o€ its own which is quite different from Cupertino, Sunnyvale, etc. He thought Mk.-Rifredi was entitled..to have sign he •chooses to represent U. store. He pointed out Mr. Rifredf lives- in Moans Vista himself-add deals with the people living that,, daily. r Per, Garner said the sign on top of building could be considered as 'two'signs -in itself. Member Koenitzer said he lived in that area and the store has 1so'roved over the last few years. He felt the building looked better with a coat of paint then with a sign across the front that would not fid10 in bringing in customers since it would not °be seen from major ar@as. Chairman McLaren asked about continuing the application until tc Rte is more study of the area. She pointed out it would probably be after the first of the year. Mr. Garner said if it was a choice between continuing or denial, he would accept a continuation. Ms. Kramer pointed out there was no guarantee of when Monts, Vista would be studied. Mr. Garner asked what would be acceptable and was told that. staff could gi.-e him guidelines. e I { a PMWARS OF THE tsXti3a f981t,";':5,�{",;�9'f.. ..'Ha"C ' Y.f.A"iii7i r�. 'h„s' #V—05 Page 5 ► e:i, z.ssf po aSed;out that a-codnieuation would allow Mt. dstceer to discuss ttpZ; oltee's=. eca tfi N{r: Bi faedi add Sir. Rtfredi could present his. Chairman McLaren agreed, suggesting l p. .Ga r -that he kega in -mind axone zof moo- its of the committ rznhes, $tse:aka3® .noted the existing atgh can be saga froze all AdLt®ctions r Chairman Xcl,aren opened the meeting to comments from the audience.` There were none. Member Weinstein moved, seconded by Member Koeaitzer, to close Public Hearin Public Hearings. closed Motion carried, 4-0 V4uber Koeni.tzer moved to continue Application RC-51,330.1 to the HC-51,330.1 next regularly scheduled meeting. Seconded by Xember' Sallan. continued AYES:, me rs Kvenitzer, Wain stein,,=Sallan and Chairman'McLaten NOES: None Motif= carried., 4--0 At 8:30 p.m. a recess was called wi tip-:the.meeting reoc.-vening at. 8:40 p.m. 3 Application H04,1,,.283,4 of, Stoneson'Development �:orpora-' HC-51,283.4 tion requesting-approval of site, architecturet, landscaping, Stoneson ;grading and signing, fc: Tie Oats Shopping Center located fat Development the northwest corner of Mary Avenue and Stevens Creek Corporation Boulevard. Contiuu.,4 -from H1-Control meeting of` November 21, 1973. Staff report: Before Ms. Kramer gave the staff report, Mr: ,WhitcanadL distributed a letter setting forth the applicants reasons for oppos- ing projected bicycle path, for the Oaks Shopping Center and Sandpiper Restaurant. Ms. Kramer said issues raised at the November 21, 1973 hearing had involved a number of revisions to site and architecture. The main point on site was the possibility of bicycle path. The City's position is it would like a bicycle path at some point in the future but was not asking for it nor.- The staff wou:t>> like an area that would allow for a path in the future; i.e., landscaping for 12 €t. In front of property on Stevens Creek Boulevard to be designed in such a way that major trees and sprinkler system would not have to. be moved in event of bicycle path being installed. Using site plan, Ms. Kramer pointed out 5' sidewalk, 5' for path and 3' for median. i � S MlAitynS OF TRE DEMOBS S§ 1973.-8»C0 '8M'' Page 6 TheWO should be approx lmstsly. 8' of flag area before"beg niidg'Atop in grade. 4,ft. is for permanent planting and, treed., Member Weinstein said in view of.letter passed out, thftie '6ig#k Ua a conflict in this plan with Sandpiper Restaurant. The e2datfii-lai ddscaping does not screen cars and- he would like to see this co tettellii ' had hoped the modification would have included this since it had been discussed at the earlier meeting. A point of continuing application was f6i ^&is purpose. He cannot separate Sandpiper Restaurant and shopping 'dib42er and feels this may be the only chance to get. cars at Sandpiper Restaurant screened. Member Sallan pointed out the landscaping from Many Anne to freeway was one continuous line along Stevens Creek Boulevard and it was within the scope of this committee to speak to this point. She suggested continuing oleanders. Ms. Kramer then continued with review of site. The next issue was the p6dzatrian path. The sidewalk was to continue to allaiw fog foot traffic from Monta 'vista. She pointed out paths on the site pJgn.. Staff wanted texture to be used throughout. site for paths. There 1 : A no 1o14e' 'Of parking stalls with additional paths. Member Koenitzer asked about path at western end. Mr. Schumacher, 3150 20th Avenue, San Francisco, said the State would have to be con- sulted to make a break in the fence. They would also have to apply► to State for sidewalk .continuation Ms. Kramer pointed out change is parking islands. 8 ft. median for trees will make some short stalls:. ;Staff recotenen& tress aldna perlinster of property have same treatment. Member Sallah"`questioned tine of "boxes" and it was clarified that the trees weuld`be set into gzbimd. With regard to architecture, staff representative said the request by committee had been that a modification be made to theater to break up massiveness of wall. Also that elevation of shops be shown. All four "J elevations will be similar. Another point raised was the matter of three signs. The appliea+htmhas chosen to modify color scheme. Ms. Kramer described the signs atkd= exhibited colored drawings and samples of material to be used. SITE Mr. Arthur Schumacher, president of Stoneson Development Corporation, noted the changes that had been suggested by the committee had beeli reviewed and changes in signs and buildings had been made, 'The"bicycle path is something that will make them liable for injuries. Stevdhe Creek Boulevard is too highly traveled to have a bicycle path but'-they did study it and a design presented. He wanted their objection to having a bicycle path in front of the center noted. t MUMTES OF THE DBC12MER 5, 1973 H-CONTROL MS£TnW 9 tiettsber Ea2. sn:noted their prime :concern seemed to be the factor "of safety, If City was to have a bicycle;path,, the apt$ s are either. , in the street. or on the sidawalk area. Which did be think wos as orl . Mr. Schumacher said he did not think either, ;place was fessIble for bicycle traffic. Member Koenitzer said no matter what was done, Chairman McLaren said she was astounded to hear the City was coasidetr- ing a bicycle path on this side of Stevens Creek Boulevard stead-end ing into the freeway entrance. This was her personal opinion. Member Koenitzer said there was no way of riding west on the south side of Stevens Creek Boulevard as the law requires bicycles to be ridden in the same direction as traffic, Member Weinstein said the plan submitted by staff seems to be,good since we are in a transition period. This leaves the option for having a path and is a reasonable way to pursue this. Mr. Schumacher said he �!ouid not be against reservation property as long as it•di4d not adv�ertely effect their over--all plan and as long as they can come back and voice their concerns if and when the bicycle paths care soar. templated being installed. Staff member Kramer said in event.a bicycle path is designed for Stevens Creek Boulevard there will be many public hearings at Planning Commission and City Council levels" and all property owners would be notified. The City would be bearing, cost for most p,�%,st of putting in paths. Mt. Schumacher said the committee must decide what design'shoula be followed on the landscaping for frontage, After further discussioip _ Ms. Kramer clarified again the intent of staff relative to the 8 ft.'.' area. With regard to Architecture, Member Koenitzer ;had a question about ARCHITECTURE easterly end of two-story building. Mr. Robert Page of Bakke/Page, 20430-J Town Center Lane, Cupertino, said the balcony goes all the wry around building and there is a one-story extention to tine east. He explained modifications to theater. They had included 6' trellis wive wood facing above it. Building might be able to be reduced to 25 ft. The shed roof would be replaced by a hip roof. Mr. Page answered Member Sallan that the theater would face south. Chairman McLaren asked about refuse area for theater. Mr. Page pointed out refuse area on site plan. Member Koenitzer asked about bicycle racks. There are soars denoted around theater, but he felt there should be more. Mr. Page pointed out several other points where racks might be added. Chairman McLaren ascertained the racks were sturdy and would be firmly installed. e ti J $C-9gMn= OF 1'bl8 DECWER 5 1973 H--CONML NWING Page 8 LANiDSCRING Mr. David veldt of Hrowne/Reldt Associates, 736 k6ntgdjiftygitieff� -f86. Francisco, wits asked by Member Sallan if he'had ieeefved a cdpy 4f tat guide litseg. He replied he had not, but he had taken dotes. Sher x44e= quesged that a copy be given to him. while he alssl M reached whereby if the level area were extended to 10 ft. and the major planting placed at least 3 ft. back it would give capability for future addition. It would limit amount of side slope arade differential which he felt would be the best way of screening. He did not feel the 3 ft. median in this particular case would be appropriate; Member Weinstein suggested there be no further discussion hdld Ott the bicycle path since thi- :.as what the City had decided on. Staff member Kramer poirited out this was the optimum solution as seen by the staff. Mr. Heldt said; the major trees should be '4 ft. from shopping=deatek side with at least 3 ft. from car overhang. Screening shrubbery would go between trees. Member Veinstein asked fir. Page if he liad4 studied the suggestion of moving the whole center back a foot or &ter % Mr. Page said no, but this would involve existing trees. Mr.'Pdge, - ' suggested trees could be planted if they went to short stalls. It': was ascertained street trees are SO ft. apart with stalls 10 ft. on center. Member Weinstein suggested 50 ft. centers with short stall ' at each tree. Mr. Heldt pointed out no other trees along Stevens Creek Boulevard are placed at 50 ft. centers. He said the-°010,i aL proposed was a balanced proposal. It would not be appropiiate ,td have 50 ft. centered trees in this small area. - Member Callan asked how the flat 4 ft., with 2 ft. drop could be planted to screen automobiles. Mr. Heldt felt they should go to- 7 ft. landscaping area. At time of planting there would be ft;! above drop; planning to use Raphiolepis on top of mound. Mem},;r Weinstein asked if they were planning to continue landseapitig all the way past The Oaks sign to the east. Mr. Heldt said safety, and visibility of ground sign were two concerns. Member Weinstein said 2 ft. of planting would do something to screen cars and still' not interfere with visibility. Chairman M Laren asked Mr. Heldt to summarize what he felt could be done to frontage with regard to landscaping. Mr. Heldt said 4 ft. planting on 2 ft. mounding would give 6 ft. screening. He pointed out where the trees and low shrubs were planned around perimeter. i �< icy p. •�^ t�°T , A- t MIMNE3 OF THE DECEMBER.5, 1,973-14- 0L,=Ti NG, Memher Weinstein stressed perataaent. landscaping �houla. be planmPd, for 4 ft. of area. Member Koenitzer wondered if th&'3,.:. _median_, would be necessary. Staff member Kramer cl4ri:fied this w�„not recommendation from Planning Commission; it was from the aeaff. D4-ffer( nt widths and types of medians were discussed.. Mr. Heldt said he r-eeded at least a 6. ft. flat area to make a 3 ft. slope. . Ms. Kram+_._ pointed out trees and irrigation system should be placed far enough from the paths so that trees would not be damaged. N.-.a3er Sall.an said the grade drop would not be a slope. She did not want the Raphiolepis but rather something that would grow at least 6 ft. to 10 ft. total. This would be consistent with guide lines. The intent of guide lines is that complete screening be accomplished at time of planting. Mr. Heldt named several plants that could be used. Member Weinstein asked for more trees along Stevens Creek Boulevard. The applicant agreed that two more trees could be included. Member Sallan .said the Agapanthus should be changed from 1-gallon cans to S-gallon cans. Member Weinstein suggested landscaping could help control vandalism around theater sign. Member Sallan questioned lack of landscaping at entrance. Mr. Aeldt said they wanted a feeling of openness and pointed out where-landscap- ing on other side of entrance would serve as screen. Mr. Roy Cooper, 988 Market Street, San F-rancisco, spoke to the SIGNING theater sign. He had hired Ad-Art in addition to his regular staff. The sign is at minimum space. The colors have been chan,ged. : Nembe: Weinstein said he was convinced that everything had bees.done regard y ing sign for theater and felt the colors were an improvement. Member Koenitzer agreed. Member Weinstein said he would like to know about plans for Sandpipe Restaurant sign. He felt the si.gps were tied in and should be dis- cussed. Staff member Kramer explained all three signs would be part .:Pf exception. Chairman McLaren opened the meeting to the public for comments. There were none. Hemher Weinstein mrved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public Hearing Public Hearings. closed Motion carried, 4-0 • MC 95 HUMM Olt TU DEt t i 5, 1973 K46tRDL kgiftid Page 10 HC-51,283.4 AeLber Saban moved to approve Application KC-51,283.4, seeom ding approved w/ ap ribval to the City Cowell`with at dAr& it=Conrtrol 'Codditir '`Y conditions atta lied •e hib ts'. This Approval is to farlude the` siping on stioga`krAly. The fbllc ft ounditions- aie attach6d: 41 i Relative to Site: (1) The potential concrete area to be a maximum total of 11 ft. This to represent a possible future bicycle path and exist- ing sidewalk. 6 ft. would be a permanent landscaped strip and 6 ft. additional would be landscaping of temporary nature, with the possibility that if there is no bicycle path this temporary landscaping can be added on to by the applicant into a more permanent and aesthetic type landscaping. (2) The addition of two sidewalks to be shown on the site plan as per the staff recommendation and that these walkways further be characterized by some type of textured approach. (3) That two additional bicycle racks be installed on the Hite as per 'developer's suggestion. Relative to Landscaping: (l) The applicant is to em loy the use of the plant Raptiidlapis. This to be along the Stevens Creek frontage from the point where the new landscaping is to be installed east to the parking entrance of the *Sandpiper Restaurant. (2) Tl:a addition of two more Holly Oak trees' (15-gallon site) on the Stevens Creek frontage in the permanent area. (3) That the shrub choice be changed from oleander as per` the developer's suggestion to a variety unnamed at this point but that will have a growth height of 6 ft. to 8 ft. tali evergreen. The intent of it is to screen the automobiles at t.ae soonest time. Seconded by Member Knenitzer. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Weinstein, Sallan and Chairman McLAren NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant was notified this would be heard by the City Council at its December 17, 1973 meeting. 77 o- e� M MTCES OF nik-6BC,ffi f< `5"; 'l�"/ ii-CON filth F3Bi`FING� Page 11 Via. Applioatioti HC-51,253.41`of 5tones6a 3�evelopmut Corpclxa- HCi-31,253.41 ti.on recjuestirig exception to Secti:oa 6.13 of rbell_*p� Stowwon Ordinaade to`a1160 the installation: of two a4ditIog4 a.., Development ground signs for The Oaks Shopping Center located-at the Corporation northwest corder of Mary Avenue and Stevens Creek.Boule- vard. Continued from H-Control meeting of November 21, 1973. Staff report: The Senior Planning Technician said the Sandpiper Restaurant has indicated they would like to keep their existing; i sign so there would be three ground signs for one site. ` Mr. Schumacher said there are three parts is involved., Application is submitted by Stoneson but they feel .:hey need all three signs. Chairman McLaren asked if their lease agreement with Sandpiper included a groudd' sign. Mr. Schumacher said the agreement possibly read to this intent. He would not want to see a beautiful building such as this cluttered with signs. Consideration should be ,given because of location, the shape of the p_.operty and its being adjacent to the freeway. It was ascertained that applicant is pleading hardship as ail three signs are necessary. Mr. Page pointed out they were not asking for a sign on Mary Avenue. Member Weinstein agreed that all three signs are needed. His point is Sandpiper is now goirg to ask that their sign be permanent. Since all signs will be rust and cream, he wondered if the existing sign would blend in or should the color be changed. It was agreed existing sign would blend well and was an attractive sign. Air. Ron Whitcanack, 110 N. 3rd Street, San Jose, asked which Ordinan e exception would come under. This was clari:ied. Member Koeni tzer referred to history of. Sandpiper Restauraut sign and said this seems to be a case where the committee had tried to look to the future,and he got the feeling a fast ball had been pitched down the center. Chairman McLaren said because of locatio. she did not see that the Sandpiper sign was unreasonable. Further discussion was held on history of Sandpiper Restaurant sign and possible means of avoiding '-.his situation in the future. Chairman McLaren opened the meeting to commenrc from the audience. There were none. 14ember Weinstein mevpd to close Public Hearings. Seconded bS Member Public Hearing 5allan. closed Motion carried, 4-0 a 1 t HC-95 Z4LNM S OF THE WPEHNR,5o. 1915 Page 12 } HC-51,283.41 Member Weinstein moved to ;gcgmmnd, to agy.,Cq� ,%C Al,that Application Exception HC 51, 83.41 reeneeting a sign exception be proved, allowing three approved gro+ea!$`sigeis fronting Stevens Creek ou o'vasr , (1jeeater presents unique situation requiring exception. frog-it to 7 . be a, commercial viable operation and des?ite difficulty he has had with cQrtain aesthetics of ghat is now 'considered A large sign, the committee feels it is necessary because of nature of theater'. '(2) Bxisting;:.Sandpiper sign be allowed based on fact that it does not detract aesthetically from the development and in fact ud.ght be mole preferable than sign ,on building which according to sign ordinance would be allowed. .(3): The Oaks is allotted as center sign. Seconded bq Member Sallan. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Weinstein, Salian and Chairman McLaven NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant _ was notified this would be heard.by. the City Council at its December 17, 1973 meeting. At this point, Chairman McLaren commended Member Salian'for,the time spent on guide lines. UNFINISHED BUSINESS*. Member Koenitzer asked staff to make copies of two rough drafts; was submitting on`landscaping ordinance. Staff member Kramer brought to the attention of the committee as error that had been made on a previous application. At last meeting a resolution for Bob's Big Boy had chat ed two 15-gallon liquid aghar trees to 5 gallon evergreens. The applicant had proposed .the 15 gallon sire. Ms. Kramer read the resolution and Council minutes which per- tained to this. Amendment to Resolution An amendment was made that condition 2 on Resolution No. 344 be deleted No. 344 and that the two 15-gallon Liquid Ambar trees be changed to two 15-gallon evergreen trees. A discussion was held on a possible meeting with professional landscapers and nurserymen. It was decided that a meeting would ba postponed until after the first of the year. It was ascertained that the interim guide lines would be submitted to City Council. t,. W i�.s. MINUTES OF THE S, 1973 U-MN FA®L 13 was discussed- 3Wmb8r Salla�n asked The landscaping at guubleberry investigated if the cormictee would like to have the landscaping a professional level. She hard wade ds00h ip7a zingc3srnonn-d su report to staff. She contends submitted a rag roved plans. Staff will investigate• con f ormi.n S to �gP Member Koen:tzer asked to have a itobil stll all oldon cars Stevens Creek and Stalling checked to See �� it of it. rear wheels or axle sitting NEW BUSINESS A review of restrictions on mobile motor homes was discussed• ADjOUFU,�MIIT He..ber Weinstein moved, seconded by Member Koeni.tzer, At 11:2� p.m. 1973. to adjourn to the next meeting on December 19, .Motion carried, 4_0 APPROVED: Mairman ATTEST: C CiyM, rk A IN 3 r al-1-1 " `e�"`" CITY OF CL'P ma Itv'Q`. Avenue, Cu$extino ` r :s c 103�0 Torte• _ . x Telephone: 252-4�05TV are L IAfG CF'�.;£{ TFtC� R�+.S C L�tf4� MYNUTES OF 'Pl# j( 1�, , �' fct F:A r C `1TTTE .. O ' jz6fttHALL: CttPRTI�v'O, CALIfA&�I.: .f, t i SALUTE TO THE FLAG erred the me 7.:4� p eting at >tn. .vhitk�. fi� Vice-Chaiar_ Sallan op Salute to the Flag. s 1 ROIL CALLrtd Uice'- ' ICgenitzer�;weiT��e Members present: Dressler,, Chairman S` X3.a-`�_<. .. Chairman 11cLArgt+ Meta Ors absent: n Toby . h , > Senior Planning Techrica } Staff present: Recording,.Secre-tary. Cox APPROVAL OF MINt1TES of December 5, 1973 wera not avai The Minuteslable.' POSTPOJWWTS None WRITTEN CONMZjNICATIONS: bone ORAL CO`iL4=,CATIONS: Bone PUBLIC HEARINGS: a teed to Since the applicant was not present for Item 1, it was hear Item 2 first- (Unicorn II} MC-51,075.22<< rchitecture fora Vallco Park �1 075.22A of Vallco Park, Ltd 2. Application AC- 9site requesting a modificatiin to alluwaOf tueainstallatio:' of a light industrial buildingthe e Avenue- Avenue gas tank locate0df�t northaof Pruneridg tau Avenue approximately 27 k k �4p HC-96 I�S1YMS OF THE DECEMBER 19, 1973 H- TROL Wq, Page 2 ± G ct t!iT Staff report: Location of the tank will be in tire"xwtheasi Jec�;ten c: the s building occupying half of the loading, dock area. The area will ha. elosed off and the enclosure used to store nitrogen tank. The texture of the walls will match existing building. ,An ther modificatioR,,.ta,Gtt4pwauld be to wove curb toward oast td ,pror de Iairds,c�api`ng area. S >< member Kramer used the site plan to Olpt '6s t `Aieas ,involved. The' tarik w1 1 not be visible. Landscaging'woold be extended to provide softening in front of wall. Mr. Bill Tagg, representing Vallco Park, described landscaping. Koenitzer suggested one tall plant that would fit in with rest of'landscap- ing be placed in front of wall. It was ascertained there are panels that recess in the 17 ft. wall,+ Mr. Marlin Anderson of American Microsystems asked if planter boxes would be accepted. He said when their lease ended they would be required to move everything back as it was and this planting of tree could entail expense. The committee mpubers felt that with .the expense being met for tank stoi`a B . a tree' would no't""add 'that much. Vice-Chairman Sallan explained wit a planter should, be utilised; in this case a tree could be pIddi . Mr. Tagg said there is another trd.# and`he mould suggest using same type. He did not remember what it'w". Member Weinstein asked if the tank would be vented or if there wgre emissions. Mr. Anderson said there would be no` emissions as the process would be done internally within the enclosure, it was agreed to use the same type of Agapanthus as are already being used. Public HearinE, Member Weinstein moved to close the Public Hearing. Seconded by closed Member Koenitzer. Motion carried, 4-0 HC-51,075.22A Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC-51,075.22A to approved w/ the City Council with the standard conditions, exhibits A-1, A-2 condition and B-1 and with the additional condition that a 15 gallon tree similar to other ones used in landscaping be planted in this additional planting area in front of tank house. Seconded by Member Dressler. AYES: Dressler, Koenitzer, Weinstein and Vice-Chairman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 WWI W .rid• r ,n MINUrgS OF THE DrC$ ER,14 ` 1973 11-mctau6t � Page 3 Vice-Chairman Sallan the app�it8�notified . _: ' t this' votold be henrct'bar the pity Council at its Ja*Uary 7, J,0 meeting. 1. Application HC-51,299.1 of S.A.A.R.E., Inc. requesting a HC-51,299.1 modification of site, architecture $nd landscaping for a S.H.A.R.E. Inc proposed bank and office complex locateO between Stevens Creek Boulevard and Alves Drive approirmately 150 ft. westerly of Saich Way. Staff report: Ms. Kramer said the construction of a bank had •require relocation of office building to allow for drive-up windows not necessitating further curb cuts on Stevens Creek Boulevard. She painted out on site plan the proposed pe(lostrian path from the street to the bank and an additional path linking the bank with the rest` o`f the complex. There will still be a 30 ft. set back with fence going along side of property. A modification to bank building was an increase in the facade tQ give the building prominence and differentiate from 6ther`off1ce buildings. She explained a few minor differences in the elevations. The same materials and architectural features are being used. The change in landscaping was the elimination of proposed mounding along Stevens Creek frontage. This would help in the future whdh the bicycle path was installed. Member Weinstein asked if the cars in the parking lot could be seen from a car parked on Stevens Creek Boulevard. its. Kramer said she did not think so; would not be much parking on street. It was reported there are ample parking spaces provided for the bank. Mr. Larry Madsen, 110 First Street, Leos Altos, clarified site modification for Member Dressler. He said there is less square footage than in original proposal. Mr. Dale Rhodes, vice-president of S.H.A.R.E. , spoke to scarcity of landscaping on Burbleberry. He noted the landscaping was not com- pleted but admitted what was in was scrawny. He said they would be adding more and improving the landscaping. Vice-Chairman Sallan said she wished to speak further to this to make sure their inten- tions would be compatible to the committee's wishes. Member Dressler ascertained all the buildings are to be one story and asked if the applicants had ever considered covering walkways. E Mr. Madsen said the walkways would be similar to those it the City Hall parking area. { i i e BC-96 a MMUTES OF THE DECMER 19, 1973 H-CO#T1t0b, M=MG Page 4 Vice-Chairman Sallan asked how much taller the bank building would be than. the original office buildings. Mr.. Xad$enj said. the bank.bul ing would'td 4 ft. to 6 ft. talleg. Vice-Chaizmpa Sallai asked fez description of the proposed building. ki. Madsen said there woui4 be stained wood on the fascia and walls would be heavy textured plaster. The windows would be anodized aluminum with solar bronze Glass. The walls would be painted an adobe color. In answer to Vice-Chairman Sallan, Mr. Madsen said the fascia stain would be a dark brown with vertical lines. Vice-Chairman Sallan asked the size of the bank site and Mr. Madsen said it was approximately 50 ft. x 90 ft. 4 Member Weinstein questioned why the building had to be so high. Ei. Rhodes answered it was because of the suspended ceiling, ducts and, required space to cover mechanical equipment. Air. Madsen pointed out they were working, from schematic drawings at this point and it may be possible the building can be lower. Member Dressler asked the frontage of the originally proposed buildings. Mr. Madsen said the two buildings hnd covered 105 ft. Bumbleberry is 90 ft. Vice-Chairman Salla n said it was hard not to be arbitrary. She was con- cerned about the height and thinks it should,be lower. She was cou- cerned over, massiveness of building:and' woulClike if to be of a lower profile. Mr. Madsen said this would be absoXute maximum and it might be possible to lower height when they got to the working drawings. Member Koetiitzer felt it might be more visually interesting to have the bank building differ in looks from Bumbleberry. Member Weinstein felt the architecture could Ve changed to identify with De A.nza concept. He suggested dropping total height and using the roof with similar texture. Mr. Madsen said they wanted to keep same design concept. He suggested the committee put a height condition on approval if this was a concern. Member Weinstein asked what was wrong with tile since most exposure would be from Stevens Creek Boule- vard. Mr. Madsen said the total project should relate together; tile roof would be unrelated to the other buildings. Mr. Madsen pointed out there is a time-bind. He suggested the committee could put a condition to approval and it could go on to Council or he would submit another proposal. He said there have been minor changes in floor plan that have to be adjusted. Mr. Rhodes said possibly trees would break up massive appearance and they could change the color. MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 19, 1973 WtONTROL MERTIM Vice-CUIrmas Sall atti pointed out it was the heighth- of that tams of concern to the oammitte:e. Mt. Madsen-felt pftliapis, the,'a.i:" cement player wells, tould< b+� utilized-on beak bull, di y 62&the roof lowered. He pointed out they are under height allowance t�'" _` The structure duct and canopy to conceal mechanical equipment might be lowered to drop roof to between 20r ft. and, 2k ft.,M + Rhoders ,dafd it was cheaper to have a low; toof but the bank mast have a higher ceiling his. Kramer emphasized the higher roof was to cover mechanical equipment. Vice-Chairman Sallaft suggested making stain a lighter shade. Member Roenitzer said it should' be the same as other buildings to tie in with rest of project. Mr. Madsen said they could go a shade lighter. Vice-Chhairman Sallan said the architecture was not clear and eke would like another opportunity to see what they are talking about on a continuance basis. Member Dressler asked how far behind schedule they-were and fir. Madsen explained the ri—son for their' being in a bind time-wise. He asked if buildfng'A could be approved and the bank building continued. He would then come in with another plea:with changes that would reflect. their concerns:, Vice-CChairMan Sallan canted to be on record that she-,disapproved-.,Of having to make ,judgments too quickly. She was aware.of: their- problem but would like to be able to make decision independently of time. She did not feel comfortable with saying. yes,before examining it. Member Koenitzer said he felt he could approve building, A. Mr. Madsen said he would feel better 3a.having .it handled this way. In answer to Member Dressler, Mr. Madsen explained why landscaping lobe had been moved over to create traffic island. Member Koenitzer noted bumpers needed to be added on the parking: spaces. Mr. Madsen said these had been included an later drawings;, Vice-Chairman Sallan asked if pedestrian walkway&would be different texture from street. Mr. Madsen said yes, they would .be aggregate concrete. Signs were also suggested. In answer to Member Dressler, Mr. Madsen explained roof plan of drive-in booths. After further discussion, it was agreed to approve building A and continue band: building. Vice-Chairman Sallan said this discussion would be informational LANDSCAPING so the applicant would have time to revise his plans in light of the discussion relative to the architecture. 9 r �7. r� tM4NUTES 0> B l9, 19?EC-96 a H-Ct 9WIN6 ,Page 6 Member Koeadtrer asked why the wounds Veve.�21mlnated, covVItel�t�.. >t t Madsen said on Council level the bicycle patba,-were d seussed mW Council had asked that landscaping be, gee d; to,this possibll,idtyl the future. Vice-Chairman Sallan said a moundfag-couldr;be beg= afte ,bfty ,:.° path allowance. It would have. to be a low,-,mounding but cosy I&. fitted in: The app,licauts said this would not be a problem 'Mr4 Madsen suggested it go In as a. condition._ He said it would Un incorporated.into drawing of bank. Member Weinstein said he had two comments. He would like to hate" - the Pampas grass replaced. The second co=mnt was on the Bronze Flax. There were three isolated plants and these are usually Planted' in groups Mr. :Madsen suggested landscaping coulu be discussed at the same time as the revised bank application. Vice-Chairman Sallan suggested.what was substituted for Pamvas -grass' : should grow to 20 ft. Member ktoenitzer said since there were already two trees there,. perhaps something,:lower slight be better.. He afteed: the Bronze Flax would be an appropriate choice. V _,_-Chairman Sallan' noted that 08 on the legend isn't used as a.':sitngle plant generally. She had noticed a randomness to scheme. . 'Has pr6brlem making sense -to Bumbleberry landscaping,, She is concerned w4th=-thfs. >; happening here. There need to-be more plants of same kind- to ac6md up;> with significant grouping. She then went over the plans with Mr. Madsen marking iai, heir suggestions Air. Rhodes asked about suggestions for Bumbleberry landscaping. Mr. Madsen said they could come in with new plaap on Bumbleberty-4i:i#cogi0ra- ting their suggestions. Member Dressler moved to close Public Bearings. YSesher'Weinstein .7 seconded the motion. Motion carried, 4-0 HC-51,299.1 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC-51,299.1 to the City approved Council for the site and architecture of Building A as shoran on Exhibits building A; A-3rd revision and B-2. Architecture of bask.and landscaping to be bank continuet continued. Seconded by Member Weinstein. Motion carried, 4-0 A recess was called at 9:15 p.m. with m_;-eting reconvening at 900 ,p.4. V£ce*aChairmb Qtvft 8tW* 1 iondscaping disrrepatncies. Mr. Rhoden said be vould try to saf t- fy Vie:casar a3.l es..a t; agreed,It was,Aacre a.-.-The trees 444, ? t= could. ;live been,better 4,,!;He said=-the s saaP -= st $ -090 -00 Vice-Chaairsrcan Sa11an said,one opttaa s..rt0 raglaae,Te!l asca' plants with 5 gallon size. Another option was to start all aver again and regroup theca, putting in a .1-11•2 ftr MouadalthqU&h this might be teo expensive. 8be.,;aAao ,suggested putting,to more., and larger plants, adding ,more trees.; She ,pointed out deeidu,is trees were best suited for accent effect. She referred to new guide lines and asked for 1a gallon size tress along frontage. Mr. Madsen said he would present a landscaping plan when the bank application was resubmitted. Member Koenitzer reminded Mr. Madsen Oat evergreen meant both coniferous and broadleafava;4eties., .lt was noted that broadleaf variety withstands air pollution better than the coniferous type. Vice-Member,Sallan said,the eastern perimeter should be upgraded .- relative to size 4t plants. She-as d to have the gas meter hidden. Vice-Member S.allan asked to have the coimittee's pleasure at the applicant's cooperation communicated to ,the City Council. The scope of the suggestions for Bumbleberry was as follows: t (1) Replace 1-gallon plants with 5-gallon plants as per original plan. (2) Add 4 evergreen trees, 15-gallon size, to Stevens Creek planter area. (3) Replace 1-gallon plants with 5-gallon plants on eastern boundary as per original plan. (4) Add more 5--gallon shrubs on Stevens Creek frontage as appropriate. UNFINISHED BUSINESS: Discussion of Sign Ordinance Staff member Kramer passed out sign survey and explained the proposed ordinance changes. She noted the City Attorney has not completed his studies so changes cannot be adopted at this time. Member Weinstein felt lighting should be added,, Member Xoiialtzer said the revision is a "stop gap" measure and further cha:V. es can be gone into at a later date. The committee then went over the proposed changes item by item with each expressing his preference and ideas. At 10:27 p.m. Councilman Sparks distributed apricots ti the coaamitteet. sir � r At f0t-40--Fi.mv KdOdc lisp � eta t 8 tat. ' evtssdi s lfiel� �:i��PdE � ffic+�t�Ei��Bi a+�hie � #i �;�a=�� • When it bwame dppftefli that the',�ording ;of,the r �8#�3i�si:�tiulitl"' stafl rote study f it '4 69--deeided edth mtmUer would °prepaid s'rb-p iit a& furtbet d'iscussiatt *onld be held bdfdte ma€tiate-any',dtfingtd,tU s. • `'ice-Chairman Ullan eatolft6 tted ,is. Kratger on her3,irt igibfiwkiof`4 sign ordinance presented for the committee's consideration. ADJOU&L1EN'T At 11:50 p.m. Member Koinitzer moved, sed6nded by WMb6k Vef5dtein, to adjourn to the next regular meeting in January, 1974. ,Motion earri.edi .4W=4. t,. The meeting was .reopened at 11:51 p.m. January 17, 1974 was decided on for a mcef°3a rh Iasd`oc�[pe;orchieee tb` of siethdd t -°°� ,'' screening proposals, :site ofgftt&;`rates`84 g�otathi4 ttisdr ";' choice and costs. At 111:55 p m. the tdeeting was agdin ad3o%trned: - -.J_try Motion carried, 4-0 APPROVED: 11 tCUIrman ATTEST: City Glcrk t CITY OF CUPERWO - .� , , ' , ,.� pads 10300 Torre Avenu8 t Telephone: 252-4505 �mITECTURA Bpi �E'�IIdC �F �! ES OF THE REGULAR � f MTV `-7�4` Zg1`' 1.ZEi' �'E' �`�` .`� ' CO�TTTM OF AWAI& CYT9 ,. SALUTE To THE FLAG The meeting was erred it 1:32' p.M- ley G:aismaa: �� wi� the Salute to the Fla$. ROLL CALL ► e leY, Kaienitzet, Sallaii, "Weinstane Henobers present. Chairman McLared Members absent: None Staff present: og Planning Technician Toby Kramer APPROVAL OF MINUTES Minutes of Minutes of December 5, 1973: 12/5173 "umber approved as on page 7, paragraph 19 the last sentence sbCd11d corrected ICoenitzer said crossing, acceses no scatter what .w doAvenuecareasc<sb2 ice buts some. to shopping center, freev Ma type ofc bicycle iane is -destrabl.e:•� the last sentence should read, "Memb�s Koenitzer Page 7, Paragraph 2, £ riding west on the south side of Stevens said there was no way o Creek Boulevard as the law re quires , bicycles tc be ,madden in the, saw direction as traffic." lice 4 should' read "way around building and there. Page 7, paragraph 5, explained . is a one-story extension to the east. He ved that the .'Minutes of There being no further corrections, it was mo December 5, 1973 be approved as corrected. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Dressler abstained 0 x,. k> ° r T s f>� 3.,v a z Y Y Y a 4s✓s€ C r .k , HC-9 7 Mnn=S OF THE JANUAW 9, Vg, ,. Page - t s.,:, qpx. k Minutes of Hinutes of December 19, 1973: 12/19/73 ,.. s approved as t l ga`5, i st pEtra83� 9146 er,Sallan swished; the last sentence to read corrected as follows:` `"This" dlei tacu : nfasmaCig1 so the applicant would have time to revise"his,plasn6 in light of the discussion relative to the architecture." On page 7, Member Sallan wished the following inser"d:,ja1t priV_ r-tq-. Unfinished Business. The scope of t.Ie suggestions for Bunkleberry was as follows: (1) Replace.,l-p�u°n,plants with 5-gal4oA,plants .49 POT originef.plaa. (2) Add .4 evergreen trees, 15-gallon sixes lt9 Stems Creek planter area. (3) Replace 1-gallon plants with 5-gallon plants on eastern boundary as per original plan. (4) Add more 5-gallon shrubs on Stevens Creek frontage as appropriate. There being no further correco.4as, it...was moved to acgept the,.41-Autcss of December 19, 1973 as c6rrecte4. Motion carried, 4-0 Chais7man XcLaren .abs;taAned POSTPONEMENTS: None WRITTEN COMKUNCATIONS: None Om. CO"WICAT10NS; Noee: Staff Mei*e'r Kramer noted, that 'a modification to Bob's- Big Bay apd= w*.n ordinance changes would be discussed under. ihefinished Business:_, PUBLIC HEADINGS James Frost3 1. Application HC-51,027.13 of Edwin. j. Myers (.Tames Frost) request- James Frost ing approval of landscaping and lighting for asingle-story pro- fessioaal office building located westerly of Torre Avenue approxi- mately 100 feet northerly of the intersection of Pacifica Drive and Torre Avenue. Staff report: Ms. Kramer recalled this application had been reviewed in October with lighting and landscaping being continued to allow for an overall theme to be developed ietween this applicant and the, 'r;ylor Wheeler Corporation. She used a site plan to exhibit Taylor Wheeler landscaping design. Frost plan will use same plants. A sketch of the trash enclosure was exhibited. r. T x. H MMES 01 `AE JANU J] 7,k, r iImatf Page 3 F.. M tuber. Kaenitser .asked:abo ].i t-sta0ar+i1q: T lbe i , same-as approired. for Taylat Wheeler. . Member Sal4m there would be' lights -aroun& buildLag. Mr. Robin Kipp,, 1309 Rimrock, San Jose, answered Member Sallan's Landscap)ag request for clarification .of mop ding. he ;tap v; ,the mound_woukd; be 3' high with ground cover. Member Sallan said-hex, cpnrsgs wss to be sure the parking lot was screened. Mr. Kipp said there would be a dolly .Oak tree behind mound. - Member Sallaa ascertalned Aieee would be shrubs in that area ruining completely across the front. The shrub will be 1V to 24" high. In answer to Member Sallan, Mr. Kipp described the rear portion of the site. Member: Koenitzer said he would like some accent„shrubs all aromod:.the., three open sides. He suggested: two;or four ,per side:. Mr., Kipp eked. if Taylor Wheeler were being;rggvired to put these int ; Membez Sall,. said this was not an unreasonable request in terms.of= cost- and,,Would:,:-- add depth to landscaping aesthetics. Mr. Kipp offered to 'add two on Torre Avenue close to bulldiag. , Mr. Kipp pointed out the transformer had, been:moved to Tome 8venug, side in northeast corner as directed by PG&E. It is a 3'x3' green square box on 64" square cancrete.pad. They were not happy at,staving it in this location either. Chairman McLaren asked Mr._,Kipp to do the best he could in screening it. Member Sallan asked for extra clumping of shrubs beiow.,mound;in ; corner square. Chairman McLaren noted trash enclosure would be of altopstone material Trash enclosu similav to buildings. Mr. Kipp said the enclosures would bef6� high and in approximately same location as Taylor Wheeler's. The lighting was briefly discussed. Lighting Member Sallan noted the plant list size of Lantana was 1-gallon. The committee had adopted guidelines that spoke to size of plantings on major frontages; she suggested these be changed to 5-gallon size rather than the !-gallon size. Mr. Kipp said Taylor-Wheeler would be using 1-gallon size and he felt they should use the same size. He felt they were being penalized. Ch,-.irman McLaren pointed out this applicant had been asked to delay the landscaping portion of his application. Member Koenitzer said since these plants are being used as ground cover they would be 1-gallon size. E A discussion followed regarding the application of guidelines. 4t _a. R Mm NC-97 �Mnf=S OF THE J °9, 11074 Page 4 , Membert-Veiti d how long`it- If-du14 tAid-Ior, ew�c"a�er the ground = y teA on 5' ceftkerd=:' Mr *144:'di.& Weinstein suggested. decreasing plahtintd, tdi v :,cf3tY e4 { ifs u§#e gx 1 GU size. Mr. Kipp said he would rather do this than use 5-gallon, size plants. Chairman McLareo' announced this wa a Public Hearing and- asked for cahments , from the Audi esee. There were none. "x x Public Hear- .cNember Sallan , seconded by Member -Koenitzer, to close Public I(Arings. ings closed { Motion carried, 5--0 Member Weinstein said 5' centers between, ground cover would noti be'° ;effective. Mentmer Sallan said if the applicant were staying gallon plants, the selection could be changed. Chairman McLaren said since they had+ beg asked to wait and their clans coincided with' ' Taylor Wheelers -.&3:ch had been approved, she elt these should-be also. Member Komealtzer noted Ta-ylor Wheeler's application was approved with these spa.- HC-51,027.13 Member Koenitaes moved to recommend approval of application HC-k'1,027 13 approved w/ to the City Cemcii with the standard conditions, attached exhibits and condition following additIdeal condition: (1) ThAt several accent shrubs will be placed around three` sides of building and on the small square next to the parki lot, 5-gallon container size to be used. Motion was seconded by Member Dressler: AYES: Hwnbers Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: sme Motion carried, 5-0 The applicant was notified this would be heard by the City Council at its January 21, IL974 meeting. 2. Application HC-51,075.331 of Cal-Coast Sign Company (4 Phase) HC-51,075.331 requesting approval of a sign plan for a light industrial 4 Phase building located at the south of 280 Freeway, north of Vallco Parkway. Staff report: Staff member Kramer showed slides of site and proposed sign. The sign is 5`11 feet above ground and approximately 40 square feet per side. it is internally Uluminated. > r p4 MnMMS OFF THE J J e c,AOI .�; • Fstge t� • •• f � � -tt A � 2�v Member Dressler noted this was a monumental type sigh as had been '. re nested, _< . Mr. Vern Pitroff, 965 Richard Avenue, Santa Clara, described the sign poles for-Member Sallan. They. will be, Material :with.,-a•iU Rated concrete wrapping of a:coiar, co match the building. Chairman McLaren opened -the meeting, for comments from the::Audience. There were none. Member Weinstein moved, seconded by Member Koeni , er, to close,, the. Public Hear- Public Hearings. ings closed Motion carried, 5--0 i Member Weinstein moved to approve application HC-51,075,.3371, subject HC-51,075.33 to standard conditons . nd, Exhibits; F and F-3. Seconded hp ;Member, k approved Koenitzer. AYES: Meyers Dressler, Koenitaer, Sav]llan,, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ; Motion carrtedy.. 5^4' The applicant<was notified this would be .heardI; y the City Count on January 21, 1974. 3. Application HC-51,032.2 of; Sigo Designs, Inc, (Cage-Free HC-51,032.2 #1 Wash >& Dry) requesting approval of a sign plan for a Care-Free ail commercial building locate?d at the, northeast .corper, of, Wash & Dry Blaney Avenue and Stevens Creek Boulevard, Staff report: Staff member Kramer said, this was a request for` a single faced wall sign approximately 69 square feet in size. She showed slides of site, pointing out location of sign and other signs in the center. She said this was an old center with no sign program. This sign could be setting precedent for any future signs in the center. A HC-97 MINERES OF THE JAM%M ,9,, . T i`T 1 ' u'a'F` Page b The sign will be centered over the door. Mr. Douglas C. Smith, 440 Hockler, Modesto, answered Meuber�W*ifiiift that sign would be against parapet. Member Weinstein asked about the use of 01, if this connotdd thig; = would be a chain of laundromats Mr. Smith said the owner`hope+f This place has been in business approximately 5 weeks. Member Weinstein said he could not 'see relationship between spaceman on sign' dhd,"a`' � laundromat. Mr. Smith said the intent was to show something unusidl. Member Weinstein expressed his personal objection to spacemen, the Big Roy, and other figures on signs and said he could not approve sign as it is. Member Koen tier said he did not feel #1 added anything to sign. His major objection to sign was the size in relationship to rest --f signs on the building. 12 feet x 2 feet would be his limit. Mr. Smith said the owner was Inot particularly married to logo style, but is relationship to building front this, sign would proportion out. He pointed out shape of building and other projecting signs limi-tei'- - their business's visibility to traffic. He also pointed out there is a realm of signs of different types in this center. Chairman McLaren said one thing that must be taken into accbunt'is that this is the first change in signing in this center, which gives the committee a chance for upgrading, and they must be careful of sign size. She felt a 23 foot sign would be too long. Member. Koenitzer said sign could be half as high' and still be legible. He pointed out there is a shopping center sign on Blaney aadSfiev=en Creek so there is exposure on the two frontages. Mr. Brailey said he built laundromats and Mr. Medwin had purchased this Laundromat from him. They had customers from Los Gatos because of this niceness of this laundry. It is 1/3 of a block from Blaney along H part of building where they are located. Tueir allowance is 108 square feet and they are only asking for 69 square feet. Other signs in center are made out of plywood and sheet metal, and theirs will be more in keeping with signs along Highway 9. Mounting back on building will give a balanced effect. He thought Mr. AMedwin would be willing to give up identification of spaceman. This is a $50,000.00 investment and they are concerned with identification. Member Sallan noted the interior of the facility was lovely. She shared the oncern relative to size. She asked Mrs. Kramer what was the position in terms of discussion with owner of shopping center and future signing in the shopping center; how the committee could effect some type of unity between this and whatever else happens. The staff member explained x ,.. _za. y page I 7 the different aI ergatives carve .nrn this sitpatio ..`tea change ally signs would requ rie a maJor ffio` fi ation o"building." She suggest d the committee.shoul,,d use J4q.plgn as an example of type of sign desired relativd to size ai color. i Member Sallan said t`he color iio a pxab$ea, since this might `be a precedent for future signs and 'she felt it would-'be bdtter to have, one color ,rather than the, three colors as proposed;., Member Koenitzer suggested specifying size and background and leaving.it up to future H-Control committees to decide .f -colors were appropriate. The signs should fit to general p�lpn" in, terms of size, but not locked in under one color. They° ciiui&J)d' roughly the same height and width with dark frame and white background, but the colors could be decided .later. Member Dressler pointed out this sigh was not far, off the lh% that was -being considered' under new siga ;ordinance and he did dot hassle with sign ,or colors. A discussion was held regarding the color and 'layout„ of sign. A consensus of opinion seemed to lie to, go to, one.-color,. , Chairman McLaren asked for comments from the_audience. ere were none. 4 Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member" Weinstein,- to close Publi Public Hear- Hearings. ings closed Motion carried, '5-0" Member Weinstein moved to approve application HC-51,032.2 to City HC-51,032.2 Council with standard H-Control conditions and in accordance with approved w/ Exhibits F, F-1 'and F-2 and the following modifications conditions (1) Cartoon spaceman be eliminated. (2) Size of sign be reduced by size of the spaceman, approximately 2 feet 7 inches. (3) Color of the sign, in particular "Carefree U1",be changed to two blues used in other portion of sign. (4) Some "matting" process be applied to slightly_attenuate brightness of colors of letters. Seconded by Member Dressler. Ip c RC-97 xnISm or nE rA aY`t '`i9 4 ii Nggift Page 8 Aft AYES: Members Dressler, WeiAgpeln, Chairman K NOES: an egs I eiiitze &A ta]tl'aa �r Morton 'carried, `3-2 . . 3 Chairman McLaren notified the applicant this would be heard by the City Council on January 21, 1974, The applicant complimented the committee on the way they discharged their respcnsibilities. Member Sailan said her objection was to choice of color, preferring "ireen to. blue. REVIEW OF CHANGE OF COPY OF SIGN FACE Otsen Sign 4. Otsen Signs (Mary Jakob RetAty) requesting cha4t-Of copy of an existing sign located at 10300 East Estate"Ca Drive. Member Koenitzer said his objection Etas` the•I'arger•size of this sign in relationship to others on the building. Staff report: Ms. Kramer noted the applicant was not present.- She showed slides of sign on building and pole sign. The window sign occupies more than 251. Since there were many questions by the committee, Chairman McLaren suggested contitting until- applicant could be present 'to answer them. Continued to Member Sallan moved to continue application for Otsen Sign to next next meeting meeting, giving applicant some guidelines of concern of committee relative to busy-ness of sign. Seconded by Member Weinstein. Mw--ion carried, 5-0 UNFINISHED BUSINESS Bob's Big Boy Staff member Kramer said Bob's Big Boy was requesting some modification needed to hide mechanical equipment on roof. She used plans to point out air conditioning and other mechanical equipment on roof. The applicant was asking to add wood strips to cover this. The stacks on building vould be lowered an additional foot. Ms. Kramer used slides to show building and stacks, and equipment on roof. The two 2' x 10' boards used to block view of air conditioning equipment would be stained to match color of trim. Member Koenitzer did not feel this would :Improve looks of building. l ` `aas MMTS OF JANVA St :9-e dk74 �-C(�T�I. M MG, RC-97 Pa 9 Staff member' kramer, 'pointed out stacks.'h'a8 to be'a`` ertsiti hel' t 9h to conform'to csde 'so 'eduld only'be dropped`i'Riot.; t6e�_a=tfiiiact had assuraj Mr. Eakin' there would be no equipment showing: d hiir man McLaren asked if there was a rendering of suggested changes and an architectural sketch showing changes was exhibited. Ms. Kramer pointed out the wood on top would tie in with trellis on brack 'of building. Member Sallan said "she eras concerned about application as she could not adequately visualize what it would look like. - ' Mr, Robert Eakin, 22270 Kendle, Cupertino, used the sketch to further describe and explain proposed changes. Member Dressler said the wood trim matched the fascia and should have been there in the first place to cap block. Chairman McLaren pointed out this was not the applicant's fault, and in order not to delay him further, some recommendation should be made. Mr. Eakin said whatever recommendation was made would be 'done. Member Sallan said she was not' sure this was optimum solution ` and the applicant should come in with drawings. Mr. Eakin suggested staff could come back to site and aboard could be put up to ascertain what would be necessary to cover the equip* ri meat. Member Dressler moved to make a Minute Order for a 12"`parapet Minute Order for a field fix correction of visual condition of air conditioning stained to match fascia of building, to be regulated by the staff r so that `if 12" fascia does not satisfy, the applicant is to come back with drawing with correct size of parapet to hide air condition ing equipment. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. Motion carried, 5-0 The stacks are to be dark to match the rest of the`,building trim. Staff member Kramer said the sign ordinance was not included on agenda but she had made copies of reports by Member Koenitzer and Member Weinstein and revised draft of the Sign Ordinance, for the committee's perusal. It was decided to take a break before beginning study of Sign Ordinance. Meeting reconvened at 9:48 p.m. after a 10 minute recess. M S L .v e n ,a-, •xr d '�� ..F;e'; '`,ii�Diu z F' x4r i •' k. � of n.s"+ry P r 1 iC-97 =' MINUTES OF THE JANUARY �,%1974'W-'COXTl ?age 10 Sign Ord#naasce .Menwer Weinstein e:rplai,e;d the chart he,hails,rep4�edlr relapi mq, to. , sign sizes ca be,a :ic�.ed. Fie said he hi& taken data _shown on,sips survey and used a,l , ratio, keeping ,a maximum of approximately► 135 square feet. IMs. framer pointed out that any sign ordinance would be prefaced with the thought they -would not be allowed an area greater than.. the size agreed upon by the committee and the coininittee.,�jould be give discretion to allow less. Different ways of expressing this were discussed. Tire' abatement Reriod on non-conforming signs was discussed. The revised draft of the Sign Ordinance was gone_ over and several changes made. Member Sallan suggested that the committee should have sonieone. to, speuM: for the changes when it was presented to the Planning Commission and City Council.. .undscaping It was announced. that a tweeting with Dick Heldrith. of the Saratoga .feeLing Horticulture Society had been arranged for Thursday, January 'r17`;.' 1974 at 7:30 p.m. Staff would also try to contact a representdtfve from a nursery an,d.a landscape architect. ..The committee was asked to came prep axed with,quastigns. 'uLlic safe•.:_1 i3eer Sallan said she thought public safety issue should be looked issue relative into with pictures. and statistics being given for, the. committee's to la-tdscap ing t studti. This to be done at a later date. resolution Meaner Sallan reported changes made on Resolution go. 34.7. The :1a. 347 City Council had asked for cornittee clarification on mound height, what other streets are considered major frontages, etc. A ?Minute Order was received from City Council to require 'this committee to include in standard conditions the requirement of one specimen tree in each development. :sigh=,ay 9 Associate Planner Cowan said landscaping studi"of-Highway .9.would Landscaping be reopened, and Mr. Jim Coleman woula be in with schemati docu- ment covering suggestions. Member Koenitzer reported the old car is still in front of :Mobil service station. Adjourn:::enc At 11:00 p.m. the motion was made to adjourn to the meeting to be held on Thursday, January 17, 1974. Motion carried, 5-0 ATTEST; APPROVED: A.. .., N City Merv- irtaan r +_ CITY OF CUPERTINO 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Pag l Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTE$._OF ,:FILE:. REG d ,ADJQURNED+ VW, R40.Qg TKE, UTECTURAL VI: SITE APPROVAL POMMqTTg&. HXLD-ON, JAXUARY 17'd 2974>IN LIBRARY - CONFERENCE. AOCM, -CIS, HALL;, 'CUPERTINO CALIFORNIA fa SALUTE TO THE FLAG Chairman McLaren opened the meeting at 7:40 p.m. with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Members presents Koenitzer,. .Sallan, Feinstein, Chairman ' McLaren Members absent: Dressler Staff present: Senior Planning :echnician,Kramer. PUBLIC HEARINGS: It was decided to.hear item 2 before gairkg on to, discussion,q€ iidscaping; guidglines _. . 2• ApPlfcatien HCr92,004.1 City of,.0upestin* Co<TPorati.m x HC-92,004.1 Yard requesting approval of site for a rock bin Corporation enclosure, locate& at the. rjort11westcoxnex of.Mary, Yard Avenue and,meteorr Drive.- Staff report: The Senior Planning Technician described the location 1 of the corporation yard and said this- mould be an,oat-site_ snprave } Ment. The bins are for the storage of loose_.gravel. The lands cap; ing plans for this yard will be brought before the H-Control committee at its next meeting. She explained the bins would not be seen from the freeway. ® Chairman McLaren asked that an earlier study that had been made of the corporation yard be made available to the ccmmittee. Member - Koenitzer noted the freeway ruts 20 ft. to 30 ft. above the, corporation yard, making it difficult to screen. i A Minute Order to approve this application was proposed. I Minute Order Motion carried, 4-0 3 ;wxi 3 Page 2 MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17, 1974 ADJOURNED R-CONTRO1, XMING 1. Discussion of Landscaping Guidelines Staff report: The Senior Planning Technician introduced Mr. Dieu Hildreth, Saratoga, Horticultural Societq representative; Mir, Prank Ortiz, Patkd Foreman for the City of Cupertino', and Mr. 3iti Coleman, landscape atchltect. She had asked a nursery'representatite, but he was not present. The interim guidelines recac.tly adopted were to act as a stop-gap' measure, but this input could provide unbiased opinions to aid the committee in setting forth permanent landscaping provisions. Member Sallan had asked Ms. Kramer to take pictures showing l=gallon, 5-gallon size plantings and 15-gallon types to show difference. °4dmber Sallan indicated her concern was for major frontages, She asked that the guests read the interim guidelines. Staff v&mber' Kramer explained that in the suture packets might be put together for developers ,to give them guidelines and indicate exacily ftat' is wanted. Slides were shown of various developments showing the landscaping planting and growth patterns, with &fmber` Sallan pointing out t1e' ' different aspects of landscaping intent and actual performance of plantings. It was suggested that perhaps container size might not be a good indicator, noting one application where the developer had complai -ed about the size of plants received from nursery'. Mr'. Ortiz po atici s out that maintenance makes a difference in growth pattern. If plants are placed too close at time of planting, there will. be a problem unless-uaint :' :ance is provided' to reduce them. Chairman McLaren referred to narrow median treatment on Bailey Ave;=:.e between El Camino ar.d Alma Street- in Mountain View. It is attractive a and would require low maintenance. Member Sallan asked Mr. Hildreth to address the guidelines. Mr. Hil- dreth said that #/1 was generally accepted. 12 he didn't agree with; cannot be tied down too narrow. A discussion was held as to how long it wound take a !-gallon planting to catch up with a 5-gallon plant- ing. Mr. Hildreth said it would depend on planting treatment and care of the plant. :Member Sallan said the committee would need to deal. with :average conditions, noting the committee is told by many developers that it is better to plant 1-gallon size because (a) the root system will be better, and (b) they will overtake the other larger size plantings in a very short period of time. Mr. Hildreth said the root system should be the same in both sizes assuming grope: care in the nursery. Some species could catch up in a year; others X , MINUTES OF THE:JdtNUARY 17,- 19 7V AIJOURNO H;;C b MMTMG "; could take longer: ' Mr. Hildreth said the demand for nutsetry°-stoic ; over the last 'several.years,has been tremendous Most groeversaare producing for landscape architects or other nurseryman: Recaube -,of the shortage, smaller plante are being accepted at the same .prica quoted for larger 'si ces. He said some cities specify from whom.the} plants are to be pc.rchased. Also, some cities require the stock tot be inspected before it is planted. Mr. Ortiz spoke of a situation where this had prevented the ` ss of many trees for-the' City Of— Cupertino. Member Weinstein asked if a decision could be made on the condition of stocks before planting. and Mr. Ortiz said he thought he could. F Member Sallan asked Mr. Hildreth's opinion on 15-gallon vs 5--gallon plantings for screening of cars. Mr. Hildreth said it would depend on how soon the effect is wanted and the cost factor to be eonsderfi- ed. The cost factor could be as much as 25%. He said "root bound* ness" should not be a problem for either size if properly grown,.;, ' The critical question was not size, but how it had been grown. ffe used the blackboard to describe growth of a tree from seedling stagg Mr. Colman noted one reason landscape architects pre-ferred the smaller size was they were not so likely to be root bound in the case where proper care had not been given at the early stages. lie read an article about little seedlings being planted in big holes. : Mr. Hildreth said another problem could be the I ft. median with underground utilities. In this ca_e you cannot ptant $5.00 tree, i in a $10.00 hole He wondered if these were desirable planting areas at all. The Senior Planning Technician noted there was also ; ` the safety factor at this point. Different ways of treatment on these medians were discussed. Mr. Coleman pointed out there should be a 16 ft. vertical clearance for truck traffic. Mr. Hildreth said the committee should also consider aest'�etics and :survival factor. Chairman McLaren asked about types of trees to be planted on medians and freeways. Monterey Pine is not to be used because of disease .. and insecte. In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Hildretl suggested substituting Allepo or Canary Island Pine. TFiM State loses 10% of the Monterey Pines. There is a study being done by the ;care with regard to this. Member Sallan had a question regarding trees which developers say are diseased and cannot be saved. Mr. Hildrath said very often the orchard trees are old, have not been maintained and it is just as well to cut them down. Mr. Ortiz said the average p,_-son doesn't know how to take care of orchard trees so they probably wouldn't survive. HC--9R ? MINUTES OF 2RE ZANUARH 17, _1974 ADJCUHNEO:H-CONTROL `MBZT1NG Page 4 s Y Member Sallan said she..would.: like astatement relative 2p;:;guideaines for screening of automobiles. She asked,Mir. Hildreth to givefa,. plus and minus list relative to 1-gallon .plants as opposed to 5-9811on plants -and 3-gallon ,trees as opposed to, 1S-gallon trees, ;Mr Hildreth said assuming, money was no problem, of course the larger plante .would screen quidaer. Chairman McLaren asked about spacing and Mr. Hildreth said the 8,pac- ing should be according to the ultimate growth of the plant. Another technique is to use both larger and smaller plants, interspersing them. Mr. Ccl8man told Mr. Hildreth he thought the committee wanted to know the difference in age between the 1-gallon and 5-gallon sizes. Mr. Hildreth said between 1-gallon and 5-gallon would be about 12 months and between the,5-gallon and 15-gallon trees would be about la months. The Senior Planning Technician asked if height could be used as,a criteria. Mr. Hildreth said he would not r( -,irmend tying the hands of the landscape architect, developer and purchasing agent by having specifications soynarrow that they could uct get stock. There. 1s a danger in ordering by container size. It is, getting hard to get cans which could make specs meanir-,less.: He suggested making a reasonable range in *rhich the landscar architect, .contractor and nurserymen can work. He said one probleu with regard to, theCity is that it is;work- ing within a one year framework. Planning ahead. would give the .nursery much better chance to supply. He suggested wording in such a way as to allow flexibility but still retain control. needed Perhaps container size coupled with plant size with. list of. acceptable and unacceptable plants Size is not always the. best_ criteria. He suggested the, committee look '.a what other cities' are doing audi consult with several nurservmen. He invited them to the visit the foundation. Member Sallan asked Mr. Hildreth to speak to optimum spacing. He said it would depend on ultimate size of plant and effect desired. Chairman McLaren asked if there were any trees that wouldn,°t stand up to wind and storm stress. Mr. Hildreth said it was not always the type of tree, but could be the tree surroundings, care of tree, care in grading, etc. Member Koenitzer asked if there was information available on growth habit and size of plants. Mr. Hildreth said to his knowledge no nursery would have the information worded in just such a way. 35 Chairman McLaren spnke to the problem of trees being bit "* car ° bumpers and felt it would be important to have: adequate spaciaa co prevent this. Mr. Coleman said most parking lots are des$ ned to prevent this from happening if the. cars --,re parked properly, but this was not always done. Chairman McLaren also brought up the necessity for paying closer attention to a pan submitted by an architect not familiar with this ;limate. Member Sallan said she would like to discuss cost but felt it might: b,t mare appropriate to wait until a nurseryman could be present. It was asked if there was a difference in cost to developer and to a private citizen. Retail cost is as muc'i as 21g times more than the wholesale cost. 1 gallon sizes $ 0.85 to $ 2.50 5 gallon sizes $ 3.50 to $12.00 15 gallon trees $22.50 to 08.50 24 inch box specimen. trees $120.00 �;nd up These are wholesale costs. Retail costs are 2.5 to 3 times as much. Planted costs are 2 to 8 times these costs, depending on size. Mr. Hildreth answered that there is no N7ritten guarantee from the nurseries. Tle architect may specify guarantee from the contractor. Mr. Coleman said he requires a 60-day guarantee. The best insurance is inspection of stock g:ior to platting and good maintenance : It was noted a guarantee should be that the plants will grow reasonably well - some plants just survive. 1 Mr. Coleman said with regard to price of plants, it is more appropriate to consider the price of plant in-ground. The coat might be 4 tines as much in-ground. Member Sallan said she vrould like more information relative to cost. Member Weinstein said much of this had nothing to do with guidelines or the applicaticns that came into the committee. The only thing he got that might enhance the committee's ability to judge the landscaping plan is the possibility of requiring the inspection of ,,,tack prior to the time it goes into the ground. He did not feel they could worry about prices. Member Sallan noted the City Council had asked them to consider not only the aesthetics but the cost. ADJOURNMENT After further discussion, Chairman McLaren thanked Mr. Hildreth, Mr. Coleman and Mr. Ortiz for coming. Member Sallan moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer to adjourn the meeting at 9:35 p.m. Motion carried, 4-0 ATTEST: APPROVED: .ity Clerk Chairman ��.� �,. ✓ �`3 ta? ��r per ,.,ra'�p. uCa '� e � " CITY OF CUPERTIVO g r. },:s s i ;t r i?I ,y. >✓"x ,'.x"ei r fio-z 3.0300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California Page I Telephone: 252--4505 MINUTES OF THE sREGULAR MEET'ING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL JAND SITEY 5 APFROvAL: ."'�:TTTzz A:•.jpMk M,43k# ;:1974 .WUR,LIBRARY f CONE`ERENCE =ROO14$ 'CITY BALL,',.CWERrUM,•:^Ai.ZFt RH--- -SALUTE xU-THE FLAG 4 7. _. The meeting was opened at 7:33 p.m. by Chairman McLaren with the Salute to the� Flag. ' t ROLL CALL Members present: Dressler, Koenitzer, Sellan, Weinstein; Chairman McLaren;' „ Members absent: None Staff present: Asso^late Plainer. Cowar.F ,: ;., Senor Planning Technician Kramer APPROVAL OF MINUTES tKi votes of Januaryr 9, 1974 Member Koenitzer wished the minutes of Dece-aber 5, 1973, page 7, paragraph 1 and December 5, 1973 approval Lhanged to read ". ... bicycles which• cross accesses to shopping ceater4..etce" : On-page 8, paragraph 4, !ember.:!Zoenitzes-w shadto add. "Member Koenitzer said his objection was the larger size of-dais sign in relationship to others on +.he.building." On page 7, condition (2), member Weinstein wanted this ,changed to I' read "Size of sign be reduced by the size of the spaceman, . . .." M::mber Weinstein wished conditions (4) on page to read ".. .. 3 attenuate Grigntness of colors of letters." On page 9, paragraph 6, Maraber Dressler wished the first sentence to read ". . . .12" parapet r,.Yr a field fix......". Sauce paragraph, line 4, change "fascia" to "p,rapet". 5 1 q]qZ 1 9 s HC-99 MINUTES OF JANUARY 23, 1974 H-9CONTROL MEETING_'>`_ Page 2 On page 6, last paragraph, Member Sallan wished to insert the words 0$of the facility" between "interior" and "lovely". On page 10,, paragraph •7,: Mier Sallan said thd';f®urtK; #fii-,A should read "A Minute Gtder was redeived. from City Gbun,il to require....". In the fifth line, the words "on major frontages" should be inserted between "tree" and "in". Minutes of There being no further corrections, Member Koehitzer mioved-' b-Approve 1/9/74 Minutes of January 9,1974 as corrected. Seconded by Member Weinstein. approved as 1 1. 1 1 _ corrected Motion carri.edf-5-0- POSTPONEMENTS - None WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS The Associate Planner reported the agenda had been enlarged by s several items. He distributed memorandums from: Brown/Heldt } '{ Associates for Oaks Shopping Center, from Member Sa19an--aicid; i the Planning Director with regard to interaction between the f Planning Commission ar.4! H-Control Commitrtee, and the third 4r4ft of Sign Ordinance Revision. PUBLIC HEARINGS: HC-51,299.1 + 1. Application HC-51,299.1 of S.H.A.R.E. Inc-. re'uestin S.H.A.R.E., ! approval of modification of architecture for a proposed Inc. } bank and landscaping for a proposed bank and off3.de� cbiaplex i located on the north side of Stevens Creek Boulevard, west } of Saich Way. Co--sitinued from H-Control meeting of December 19, 1973. Staff report: The Associate Planner indicated exhibits which showed the proposed bank building. The height has been lowered to 22 ft. at columns and 19 ft. overall with lb ft. offices. With regard to landscaping, Mr. Cowan recalled the need for provisions for a future "bicycle lane. A flat portion should be retained 8 ft. in ! from edge of sidewalk. Mounding around existing redwood trees would be spoken to by the architect. Another point was a redwood tree adjacei.t to Key Chevrolet. He referred to an informal agreement that + h i i MINUTES OF JANUARY 23, 1974 H-CONTROL MEETING %C-09 Page 3 Ott - t trees wou 3 be kept back of 30 ft. building line. The trpe;extends: approximately 5 ft. into this area. The Senior Planning Technician gave background of agreement with regard: to trees. Thisi=only-- involy one-,tree; the other two are back of building 15.ne.. Mcuber Weinstein.asked: what the tree would be blocking. Keam&ar F,aid Mr. Weis, :of Key Chevrolet would speak to- this:.. , 'sseciate Planner read condition of approval which called fc- no trees past the building line and shrubs growing no higher, than 3 ft. Mr. Paul Weiss, 20995 Stevens Greek Boulevard, Cupertino, said he was interested-- in exposure of used car merchandise. The one tree being questioned is south of building line. He said trees and shrubs are to be-placed so that they would'not interfere with exposure•,df� his merchandiec. Member Weinstein said he could not understand `+ow this tree would block any thjng o�f have an impact on car'•sales:, ,L'h.air=n. McLaren pointed out this had already been stipulated on�prior approval. Mr. Larry Madsen, 110 First Street, Los Altos, architect for S.H.A.R. . said the-r° would be glad: to move, the mounding back as requested•anal. suggested,xthis be made a condition. He said, the existing redwood- tree"sthould` not be mounded above present soil linee or. it .might 'be damaged. In answer to Member Sallan, Mr. Madsen :saicl.the tree would e be protected by not going above present soil line. Mr. Madsen said the whole d:'• ,:ussj--in about landscaping: interfering with u3ed car area was ludicrous, but they were willing to set the redwood tree beck. Member Sallan complimented the applicant on his pxese:.t proposal and asked if he was aware that mounding had been suggested for possible 4 bicycle lane. Mr., Madsen said there was 30 ft. and moving back 8 ft,. would still leave: 22 ft. which would be sufficient, - Member Sallan f ascertained mounding went up to 3 ft. and that all proposed- plants would be kept, moving them out of the way. This would he shown on fin=1 working draw'J.ngs. r Member• Sallan asked if small strip could be mounded and if deciduous trees were appropriate. Mr. Madsen pointed out there is a variety of t deciduous and evergreen trees. The strip is tc:, narrow at that point fcc mound. Member Sallan pointed out nineteen 1-gallon planes which were proposed; since these were not on a major frontage would not call for 5 gallon si-e. She did not feel the redwood tree would f interfere with Fey Chevrole*'s view. S ' }.S Yr-tx RC-99 HYl+1iMS OF THE JNUARY 23, 1974 M-COXrR0L MEErIXG rage b Mr. Madsen then distributed a revised plan for-the Bumbleberry Restaurant landscaping, noting the owner wanted eo provide a more satisfactory plan. It was determined the proposed plants would be in addition to existing landscaping., _ Mr. Xads,en described the new, bank architecture and building mate vials. Member Koenitzer said he; felt this was a mach more impressive building. Chairman McLaren announced this was a Public Hearing and>opened•:thee meeting to comments from the audience. There were none. Public Hearin Member Knenitzer moved; seconded by Member Dressler, to close the . closed Public Hearing. Motion carried, 5-0,, Member Sallan asked to. speak to Mr. Madsen_ following the, meotiug a%, there were several points about proposed landscaping which were,not clear to her. The matter of on site inspection of plants prior ;to-�plasAt:ittg;;tJas, discussed. It was the general consensus of -the committee,(that:t :-J October 31, 1973 on site procedure for inspecting would be adequate. HC-51,299.1 Member Dressler moved to recommend approval: to City: Council, of; atpp-11- approved wf cation HC"51,-299.1, to. include enclosures Exhibits B-1, .lst Rowl Ion conditions and 3rd Revision, subject to standard H-Control conditions With the following condition added: a (1) To move Stevens Creek Boulevard landscaping mounding back towards the building. 8 ft.. (2) To move landscape planter specified on Stevens Creek Boulevard back towards the building 8 ft. to allow for any bicycle lane. (3) There will be no mounding around the existing redwood _ tree in order to preserve the root crown of that tree. (4) The building will be colored as presented on the drawings by the applicant to match aesthetically with rest of project. (5) That redwood tree along westerly boundary be moved back to a line equal with the building setback. . Member Weinstein seconded the notion. r s 3 L 1UNUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1974 H-CONTROL XMING He-99 _ sa Page 5 b AYES: Members Dressier; itoenitzer, Sall, :Vciaste�a, asrcl,t :Chairman McLAresa NOES: None Motion.:carried, 5'-O Member Sallan wanted. to clar:i.fy t4at 1-gallon plants on eastern boundary of property would be changed;to 5-gallon. Mr Madsen asked how about supplementing what was already there with 5-gallon plants. This was agreed to.: ;Member Sallan then proposed a Minute Order modifying previous Minute Order Bumbleberry-landscaping application.approving modification to • that plan with:Cie..-further notation that on the eastern border Of the property gallon plants be interspersed with existing.. ;plants. Approvedi 5-0 Chairman. McLaren announced..thia,,would:be hoard by the.tity. Council at its. ;February 4, 1974,, meeting. 2. Application HG ,5i,331.1.-of Joseph Adamo requesting[: ;: H--51,331.1 approval of site, :arcctaitecture,. landsca-ing, grading; Joseph Adam-3 and lighting for a commercial building located at the southwest earner'"of, Homestead Road: and Stalling.Road'. K Staff report: Slides were shownaY area. The area was Involved In the General Plan revision. Tt, is shown as commercial: and-has been removed from 'the moratorium. - There are three parte3:s. which can be developed individually with' sep-arate curb. ents,.`:architecture and signing. The' plutplan was also shown. Mr. Cowan pointed out the PG&E easement off Homestead Road. The application meets all technical requirements. Member Dressler wondered why major building was placed in back. It was explained owner had plans for three tenants. Divers Dock was planned for one parcel and this application had been reacti- vated. Member Sallan asked if there was any interaction between this application aid Divers Dock. A 25 ft. right-of-way going back to site will be shared. 20 ft. will be paved aid 5 ft. will be landscaped on each side. Landscaping for one side has been approved. Member Sallan noted applicant should be made aware of wh t has been approved and that both landscaping strips should. look the same. 1 d ' NC-99 t4YNtm OF Tm J .2J, 1974 a-C i'�#it. . Page 6 r Staff members explained the reciprocal easement situation and their reasons for recomaesding that the landscaping plan for the driveway for this application be eliminated. Member Eallan thought it might be better to do both 5 ft. strips=and then-when' the Oroprerty,.to-the west`lo developed. the applicant could be reimbursed. Mr. Coffin-said that up to now *'Rey had not required off-site landscaping. r` Site Member Koenitzer ascertained that.parking is at maximum. He also noted there was no sign part of application and wondered what was being planned and where it would be placed. Mr. Cowan explained this is basically an office structure. Bulk of'space has not been leased so they-.'are not sure what signing needs will be. Mr. Cowan answered Member Sallan that there were no plans far•the third parcel at this time. Mr. Martin L. Hall, 1627 Hallenbeck, Cupertino, explained the 20 ft. driveway and 5 ft. easements. They do nott own these easements so cannot landscape thew. They had planned for a 30- f t. wide opening with developers of parcels on left and right of driveway landscaplmg on their respective sides. M_ Hall said they were negotiating with developers of Divers Dock to clarify this. { A discussion was held regarding size of driveway. Mr.; Cowan clatified that a plan had been approved with 5 ft. of landseaplmg., - ; Mr. Rodger W. Griffin, 19660 Junipero Way, Saratoga, answered Member Sallan that it would be logical to awRatme that landscaping would be the same on both sides of the driveway. Architecture In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Griffin said the- building would contain offices for realrors, attorney, mortgage company, etc. With regard to signing, an application would be submitted after pore tenants were required, but would be in the venaculer of the 1*1ilding. Member Weinstein, said the committee would like the sigTk tq,bpJ low monument type. Member Koenitzer pointed out. the applicantho-d no frontage on which to put a sign and Mr. Griffin said they had: an agreement with adjoining .property owner. Member Weinstein ;referred to guidelines for signing. Mr. Griffin spoke to trellis on east side of building, answering Member Koenitzer that they had used it on other buildings and had no problems with cars hitting the posts supporting the trellis. He explained the cantilever on rear along east and wegt sides of building. The second story will stick out over landscaping. Lighting Member Weinstein complimented the applicant on choice of lighting fixture. There are eight light standards using 75 watt or 100 watt bulb. ARCHITBCIURAL AND SITE APPROVAL UOMMITI'EE MINUTES - 7 of 12 01/03/1973 - 12/19/1974 'snw ft E"' ✓ +a r e ��x s. • M NUTES OF THE 19 WIR_CWT'4W .. r ,¢ t t3 a KC-99 Page 7 The landscaping plans sirens briefly. 414cmdae4. x,:Him:the buildiag landscaping *d back:from-,the maxi,'.,=.on yt the::gees VIII., be: seen,£rom<Romds teed or Stalling nrg Hodds There were no questions regarding the grading. a ; Grading Chairmad `MeLaren opened the meeting, for public co=ze t;sr. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded .by Member',*Sallaa,, to dose,the , Public Hearin Public.iieaking. closed Motion carried, 5-0 Member Sallan-moved .to recommend approval of applieat#nA a _, HC-51,331.1 HC-51,331:1 to.-City Council with ,standard,$-Cgntrol cogdit{onq- approved and Exhibits `A,. B, C and E. Seconded by Member Koenitzer, ,.,:; . x AYES: Xembers Dressler,. Koenitzer, :Sallan, 'W4:-StQin-a if.;;: l Chairman MCLaren. NOES: None :f�loltf. eagried, 5-iJ It was noted=: that .the driveway landscape area., was ,not part a�f a the application. The applicant was informed, this mould be heard by ;the,.Cty Counci at its February 4.,:1974 f A recess was called at 8:50 .p.m. during which time the meeting. was ;adjourned: to the- Library Conference Room. The meeting was reconvened at 9:10 p.m. i 3. Application HC-51,259.8 of Edwin J. Myers requesting HC-51,259.8 approval of site and architecture for a commercial Edwin J. iIyers building located in the Portal Plaza Shopping Center at the northeast corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard and Portal Avenue. Staff report: The Associate Planner said this application was for site and architecture review and ;to, tall: ;about the scope of } landscaping since there was no detailed planting plan at this time. He referred to the conditions of approval set in December,] 1973 by the Council, noting the most significant condition was #119 1 S �'� '�+Y'} G✓°5`Ji''a'.an"„y.' 2 3la :1'� '4'• f"�rA „Yn' "�11 4 t C HC-99 MIIP.JTES OF THE SANMUM. NEEM-t9 "Ili"' '40 Z'1%1�rid Page S V Mr. Cowan used the site plan to point out scope of condition O11�1. tt to Meier ,Sallan* ; r:wlCaxiaai said: the flopp2-ioant L cobtAid t there-would, li[e,gvba dd �s1r&,-bat=thi4d::ha&,not be n� ,-apprdvM by the Planning Commission. The committee should conditioA thdt facility did not go !.i, the rest: of the landscaping would have to be put in. It Vas noted. there-,s,,;adequate parking, ,although.it_is-, ties t : Member Weinstein asked if there was any possibility of landscaping north side of wall... :He was told.there are single fati1y'shamds_<dn that side with 6 ft. fences and that the angle of,vision:uouldupre- clude the residents from seeing wall. Member Sallan ascertained PW Market aas 26 ft. with 3 ft. additional h parapet around three sides. She thought more parking had been } allowed for `than would be necessary. Mr, Cowan=said :a'study,'was t being done on'this. The new use 'would regtdre-same. amo6ht,6f..space as market had. In answer t©-'Member,Sallan, ,Mr. =Cowan said he-did- ndt=know if t--t directional lines would be drawn. The.Traffic $ngineer cou_- speak with applicant. i Mr. Cowan'said.-the former- PW Market building stuck above smaller shops and this was reason for extending parapet along building. It eras suggested halvift parapet-extended to>the.reat,al*ng the; PW narket building. Slides were shown of,-site-and buildings, ,Also wall;-,used,,Oar aWlar purpose at Orchard Hardware Supply. in Sunnyirrale. ; t x!. Member Weinstein said the landscaping plan was too sparse. He asked if planter area on Stevens-Creek Boulevard:+cdul& be mo.unded,,whou it was widened to attempt to screen area.. 'He. felt +sDme-parking 4, paces could be sacrificed to landscaping. a Mr. Edwin J. Myers, 10601 So. Highway 9, Cupertino, said they were obliged to follow ordinance in establishing parking spaces.. He said the lease for the bank had been signed. Mr. Myers said he had had to re-layout parking area when he went over it with the Traffic Engineer. In answer to Member Koenitaer's question, there will not be a pick-up operation. Materials will be taken out on carts. He said he did not think tLe landscaping was that sparse. In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Myers said lumber and plywood would be stacked in enclosed area. 8 ft. was the maximum height for staging. i 5 6 i t MIMES OF THE J W-231, -19, ff;-�O. 'IM Page! �. With regard to.mid, 114r. dyers saw they,had not.. gataey farther an this� plat, unt:U the, 6 ft.- bicyzU lme.had .keen derided, t Member Sallan asked if trim could be used all aroun building. Mr. Myers said there is nothing in ba tc•nf,bui jding, to .hide- and. s with the maintenance work being done and a coat of paint, the appearance would be..improved: Chairman McLaren noted signing would be coming in at a later date. Signing Mr. Myers anawered:Member. Sal-Ian that there would bq: arrows and directional signs in all lanes. .4r. Myers said the, owner, was €allowirg same treatment started Architect are under another application. 11e,.described the .fence of precast. slumps one and wood panels. Member-Koenitzer questioned use ,of three glass",panels- Mr. Xy= said the lumber company had requested these for ,displayiof lumber and plywood. Mr. Lyle Schafer, 476 valley-view Drive, Los Altos, sales3managg; for th.e lumber company* answered Member Sallan, that: the. panels -would rate9=1/2-attractiveness on a scale of�1. to 10. . FIe, saAl samples- of fencing, plywood and lumber would be displayed ,there., t He told Member Koenit:zer there would be no: wall or. fence beh nd,' � display. Member Dressler said there was a merchandising value to having glass panels for display purposes. There was a discussion on the glass panels. Chairman McLaren asked 'Mr. SchFafe`r, if he would have any objection .to eliminating, the glass panels. Mr. Schafer said he would like the panels, laut they could be closed off. Member Koenitzer asked if it was necessary to have parapet 3 ft,' above roof line. Mr. Myers said he thought it would take the 3 ft4 s Member Sallan ascertained wood portion of fence would match trim on building. Member Sallan questioned whether applicant was aware of interim guidelines for landscaping. With regard to mounded area in front,1 she asked staff about the bike path. Mr. Cowan said the same situation as prevailed in front of The Oaks shopping center would prevail here. He explained the City's position and indicated ® they would go to S' ft. sidewalk, leaving 9 ft. for landscaping in this area. HC-94 P+dDWES OF THE JCWM ,237 1, q7�6;41-fglMR0,L, Page 10 Member Sallan suggested providing for 12 ft. landscaping with 3 ft. { sounding on Portal Av4me`tnd ftevens-Creek JBo vard; i d �4�j'have i ground cavei i'nterspersed,.w.1th. 3. ft.:shriUhs,.whi:ch would ;giv�,<a: . fit. screen. She suggested putting in trees at several points JA-,V&vUng area. Ways of accenting wall around outdoor enclosed area were discuspe' Member Sallan said there should be two trees inserted on Porta3.; . . Avenue side. ':::::se are to be 15-gallon (10 ft.) evergreen trees. Member Weinstein asked about lights in enclosed area. Mr. Cogan said these were not part of the application., Mx. Myers answered ., these lights would be 10 ft. in height 4 Mr. Myers asked for approval of architecture, indicating ite .Wo44d, come back, with detailed landscaping plan. A discussion regarding landscaping with respect to corner with proposed,bank use was held. , Member Sallan-asked if lanclscapimmg, =, could be dose now; Mr. Kegs asked�,to have--that portion_of,'tttd j scaping done when the bank is approved. Mr. George Yamaoka, 781 Wolfe-Rogd, SIMnYvale,- said-,-he Mould like to go as recommended by Council, putting in the landscaping whet- the bank is built rather than At this time-because of finances- ,4q.,&Jaid he planned to landscape i4 ether or not the bank went ine but, couX4 not do it j us a at this time. Member Sallan suggested putting a gne-y,ear time limit on having it done. Mr. Cowan answered Member Koenitzer there was a non-conformin,g;:pple sign on site and theoretically allowed. This would be, diseus;sed when signing was applied for. Chairman McLaren asked for commnts from the audience. There w re none. Public Hearin Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Sallan, to close Public closed Hearings. Motion carried, 5-0 There was further discussion on the glass panels. t• MINUTES OF THE JANUARY �- 1' �41 .b. r Xdeuitzer" moved to rec4gme44 aOZ7�vq, . oV AW, 94, etion Cx5l,259.8 HC-51,2".a,to' the,City Cauric ii wst"Lia ,C ., app;gv ed w i � a � he`foR-Cori"t of conditions and t pAcq dtt s: qqOc, ons• (1) l That the parapet on .east wall be,,extended to the northern edge of buildin4., (2) That the _glass panels piogosed in the wall surrounding the lumberyard be replaced with wood panels, or, exteasion of: concrete panel. (3) That traffic control stripes indicating lanes and traffic direction be included in the s+-,._iping of :the parking ;lot. (4) This is approving site and architecture only. (5) Tn case the proposed additional b,uil.ding on site is not approved or,in any case wttfi#%o'ne, year ,the 12 ft, , section of landscaping an Stevens Creek 4oulevard, will be- estedded to the easterly boeandar'y ;of. the prgperty and to ,n,the., orsh for' 100 ft. This provision wily be null if a. nAO j building is approved for the site. (6) Resolution .347 should be,'usecl, as, guide, lines for panning theF Ylandscaping' of the project. Seconded by Member Sallan. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein,, Chairman McLaren NOES:" Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-1 The applicant was informed this would be heard before the City Council at its February 4, 1974 meeting. Member Dressler wanted the records to indicate his no vote was because he was opposed to striking the glass panels for the wall as planned. Staff member Cowan suggested town items might take some time, so the committee might want to hear item 6 next. The committee agreed HC-99 MINUTES OF THE 1" gY 23 t . Page 12 6. Application KC-51,283.4 of Stoneson m0evglop�qe-nt C anon HC-51,283.'4 fig modification o landscapip$ $or Tfe ,ta2c y ing Stoneson =�Cerntes located at the northwes* corner :of Lary Av g►s7'a r! Development Stevens, Creek gouleVard. Sta£f'=report:' The Associate Planner referred to memorandum ie had distributed from the applicant asking to eliminate item 7 from Resolution No. 349 with regard to short stalls. The, owner ,off, the shopping center would like clarification of this 'item. Member Koenitzer 'said it was his impression the short stalls had been to provide more root area for the trees. ' Mesiber Veinstein said his impression was that the trees had originally been proposed for 200 fi. centers and additional trees had been requested. Mr. Cowan said the architects of the center had indicated the increased room for the trees was not needed. Mr. Robert Page, 204 30 J Town Center Lane, Cupertino, .explained the reasons for this request. He said the short stalls, were intended for the interior area; staff was concerned' about _pe.' p#eral trees. yage felt'the 'decision should be left with the pFof ssioaal landscaper who, felt there would be sufficient root area without the shot't'stalls. Member Sallan said if the extra space is not needed for, root,spaee it wouldn't bother her to cut stall back. If that area could be left wider there could be more planting. 'Mr. Page said it was reasonable to assume that Mr. Davis wouldn't recommend the cost, of planting trees if they couldn't survive' in that area. Member Koenitzer said he could` see one` question„and that wou;.d be with regard to existing large Oak tree on Mary Avenue. Mr. 'Page explained the process being used to protect this tree. Minute Order Member Sallan recommended a Minute Order that Item 7-of Resolution No. 349 of H--Control be eliminated. Approved, 5--0 HC-98,006.1 4. Application HC-98,006.1 of City of Cupertino requesting City of approval of landscaping for a proposed park ;area located Cupertino at the west side of Mary Avenue adjacent to Route 85. Staff report: The Associate Planner explained this was a parcel not needed for street alignment when nary Avenue was installed and had been dedicated to the City. The City is landscaping it to provide a green area adjacent to residential area. He used a site plan to point out proposed landscaping and path. He explained the reasons for terminating the sidewalk approximately 750 ft. from Stoneson Development. +Yr. f n� Hih=ZS OF THE MUkff 23i Doh; -4MOL MMMG Pw.1 Fege:13 Member Koenitzer asked if it could be planted enough to keep traffie Pram using: parhJ., It was.,felt that 1 f..peopldrVsre using thin as a footpa4 they>would ;c"tiaue to =do sb.: Slides were shown of the area involved; also of .the corporation yard. Engineering Department felt .this area would.;have Y-to be �F'aped. as it now has a. sharp incline ,The planting could scree :o be low maintenance typed Area -wiil-be irrigated, It -was pointed out the City is working on a fixed budget. Chairman McLaren pointed out that if the overpass goes in there will be lots of traffic in this area. i It was suggested planting the area as is, leaving: in the footpath. t With regard to slides of the corporation yard, the piles of loose rocks that will be-.enclosed in the rock bins were shown. Chair- man licLaren asked if the State could put trees or shrubs along freeway by corporation yard as the planting was sparse. The staff will check.on this. E Member. Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, to close Public Hearin- Public Hearings. closed Motion carried, 5-0 Member Koenitzer questionedf#7 on legend,thinking,there might be � some problem with disease or weak branches. Member Sallan.: asked if Mary Avenue was considered a major frontage l She pointed out that #10 and #9 on legend were 1-gallon size plants. 1 After further discussion, Member Weinstein moved to approve appli 14C-98,006.1 cation HC-98,006.1 with standard H-Control conditions and in 4 .:.y of accordance with Exhibit C and with the: understanding that 80 Cupertino yards of fir bark will be dispersed through the proposed land- scaping area in the hopes that foot traffic will be directed in accordance with the sidewalk and crossing to be built and that the crossing be clearly marked. Further that some inspection of use of area be done on continuing basis to ascertain no dangerous situation exists or a path might then have to be built. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ® Motion carried, 5-0 r r RC-99 MINUTES OF THE JANVAM 23 ,1974A1- ML SWING Page 14 . , a KC-92,O04.1 5 i- :App11cati oA :HC#02,004 1. of 'Cityr f,�ICU p4rtino-Cor t&tion Corporation Yard requesting dpprroire,4t • f'; ands i $:der` a rode blti- Yard enclosure located at the northwest comer of Mary Avenue .and Meteor Drive, k Staff report: This application is for approval to add a number of redwood;trees to be :placed in between the existing Montereyr.Finne around the Corporation Yard, to screen-the parking area and trucks. This is the only portion of the site visible from the public ri*ht- o f-,way Slides of area had been shown with previous application. Public Hear- After a brief discussion, Member Koenitzet `moved to close the Public ing closed Hearing. Seconded by Member Sallan. Motion carried, 5� HC--92,004 ,L Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HL-92,004.1 to thei approved City Council with the standard conditions and Exhibits A and C that additional landscaping be, filled in to fill in southwest corer so as to hide Corporation Yard from the view of the frieway. Seconded by Member Sallan. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman-McLaren NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 UNFINISHED BUSINESS The Senior Planning Technic4an reported on Otsen Signs application which had been continued at previous meeting. The applicant,was to have been present. Since the sign is existing, the committee is anxious to have application be heard. Minute Order After a brief discussion, a Minute Order was proposed, directing staff to write a letter to applicant to insure his appearance before the committee. MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 23, 1974 H-CONTROL MEETING KC-99 Page 15 NEW BUSINESS A discussion was held of the 3rd draft of Sign Ordinance Revision Sign Ordinance dated January 22,' 3974 The City At"tottiey 'had studied proposed ' A Revision revisions and made several minor corrections. } It was suggested perhaps technical people could speak to the committee. A discussion was held on whether or-hot to hear from other input sources. Member Sallan said the committee should be before the Planning Commission to support this amendment and should be prepared-'Mw." defend it. The Associate Planner suggested r•!ybe Planning Commission and H-=Conitrol committee could hol .joitt :study '.session to discuss draft. f Member Weinstein moved to adopt the proposed 3rd Draft Revision ' of the Sign Ordinance dated January 22, `1974.-and forward to Planning Commission Seconded by Member Dressler. - AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Sallan, and Weinstein NOES: Chairman"McLaren R Motion carried, 4-1 Chairman McLaren felt there should be a study session with Planning Commission. Member Sallan made a formal resolution that prior tq planning-. 3 Commission acting on amendment there be scheduled a study session between Planning Commission and ASAC to review the adopted amended ordinance. Such a meeting to take place within 30 days. Intent is that prior to Public Hearir_gs this committee r be able to interact with their Commission on the contents .of the ordinance. Resolution carried, 5-0 A brief recess taken to allow the committee members to read Planned communications from Member Sallan and the rianning Director with i rc-%relopmcr.t regard to interaction between the Planning Commission and ASAC Ordinance relative to the development approval process. } } 4 HC-99 MINUTES OF TI -ANUARY 23, 1974 H-CONTROL MEbRING J Page16 � Merabey Salim explained she had read the adopted Planned Development E Ordinance and she was concerned that things that are going to happen in the City from now on will be in the concept of PD. There has been a proLlem with "locked-in" situations. She expiairsd the,,basis ( of her communication. Member Weinstein said he thought tOhe Planning Commission's function was to plan land use,. They ave dabbling;in areas that belong with ASAC relative to architecture and landscaping. He doea not agree that H-Control should ait in on Planning Commission meetings in an advisory capacity. Member Sallan referred to group formed to study application processes, but nothing Has resolved. The Council did not back the committee's contention that Planning Commission. should only speak to land ,use with ASAC handling aesthetics-of architecture -and landscaping. She asked if the .rest of the ;committee ws concerned about this, and;if f so, what they thought the optimum: type solution was. Chairman_McLaren noted this was-.only, on PD !appli cat ions.. Mr. Cowan said probably the majority.of applications from nocv on, would .be,PD.. He said Hember Sallan's broad,coaacerns covered basic rules apd responsi- bilities of each body. Kember Koenitzer said he felt the roles should be straightened.put and then the ordinances lined up to match what is expected of each committee. Member Dressler noted this committee has always been considered a "so-so" committee by the applicants who felt they, could. push their -appl,�cations by without much trouble. The Committee has stuck, together-apd, made their recommendations stand and a good system has been established. It this is broken up, another re--education cycle,will have to be gone through. Member Weinstein said there- must_ be a definition oc. scope of each body. Chairman McLaren pointed out 'tile PD ordinance would be, heard by, the Council. She would like to hear what Council decides. This committee could also be heard at that hearing. The Associate Planner gave history of ASAC. Planning Commission cannot get into details so this committee was set up to get involved in detail. it is this committee's role to take care of minor details. Member Koenitzer said he felt the placement of building, architecture of build- ing and landscaping layout should be L.ie role. of ASAC. Member Weinstein said he does not want to ch ag;a set up but does not want Planning Commission to grab power and say ASAC can't ;sake certain decisions. iA MYMMES OF THE Wit: Z3�:'2E',di -� iRQL« r ''Lct :i �' MC...W Page 17 Member Salltm said she was not comfortable with having vi g this coRMLL'tt e's <_rQiw,narrptpd as 1s_-F impl "cite ln; PV:;ordltuince: Chair aA,kjcLar�t, said-_.thm:se" coacaxn,should-:be--voiced ,to She ,Council... She gofantesi; out there.wi11 be_ msny. hearings `as,are ardiaan,,a of this sco pe will: teke time. , Member Dressler J_efc' the meeting at 12:10 p.m. After a lengthy discussion, Chairman McLaren read me Planning Director's suggestions. .Sembes. Roenit$ex suggested as:.a plan..-of action to as-k for a meeting with Planning. Commission and--City, Council to work out rules of Planning Commission and ASAC and what limits, of roles are. Chairman McLaren pointed out these members are worn out now and do not have time to hold more meetings. Member Sallan suggested starting with ideal- recommendations to be reflected in ordinance. Then:from that could be derived 'alterna- tives. What situation isould they as a committee be willing to accept? itic-her, Weinstein gave his view: The committee is concerned with Plamiedve1cgment Ordinance f ctange. and is concerned over the role of H-Control in this an& would like clarification of roles. The feeling is that Planning Commission function is to plan and at most in the areas of architecture, landscaping and thingga�'',,;} s this nature, he feels their input should be to the extent of an overall, very broad guide line with the specifics of architeetuxa, landscaping and aesthetic quality to be left to.ASAC. Pfe r Sallen said technically this is the way it is n and'1,�fe e '., Weinstein said he would have no�-protrlem-Witt,�; s: Member Sallan said she had other concerns with regard'to PD Ordinance and would be speaking at the hearing. She suggested other committee members should be there also. Chairman McLaren said she would not be present at either the February 4th Council meeting or the February 6 H-Control -aeet_ng. After a discussion covering the issues the committee falt should be addressed, it was decided a statement should be sent to the City Council asking for redetinitioi. of the broad overall roles of each committee. s Approved, 4-0 The Senior Planning Technician asked if the r,. mmittee would like iandscapi.ng a meeting with landscape architect, nurseryman, sheriff, etc. to eeti.ng discuss design solution for completely screening parking lots relative to safety, etc. It was decided tLAs would be discussed ® further at the next meeting. c RZ r � OW AT. 0 STV Page 38 Curb cuts Houber goemgttar sa4al°he=,thrnift the '*zimrt" �sh 446 'curb for wheel- cuts for wheelchairs-,aad= 3 ca d gerpt6tnsi f2kPVW' -9aLd chairs he thought:-thAs= as dated b} law:U t a-u&--tM& ' iko �:rlid public buildings over 10,000- S4uazeJ&6t-afire- re#aibd� to`A44L . Member Koenitaer said this was something to consider in the €uture for all major streets. Adjournment At 12:25 a.m. Member"haenitter moved seconded by 'Member ' dUins to adjourn to ,the next: reguiar�•%eeting, on,Febttary 69 1474. Motk(f% caaribd ' 4-t}<:♦ .. J, WivA rman .. re a 5 ATTEST City Clerk s 1 e ov-IT-MI 3'4 a«.Yb'4;� Y tY'Y Q '6 Nn7tu'�"xfdt`k CITY OF CUPP.Hrmo, STATE OF CALIFOR Pago 1 10300 Togas Avenue, Cupertino Telephone: 252-4505 xCr MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE : y APPROVAL COMMITTEE OF FEBRUARY 6, 1974 IN THE CCU W CABERS, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO. CALIFORNIA „ SALUTE. TO THE FUG The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CA L Members; present Ds�slAX,,., i�o, At Per 90instei;n Members abdent Sallan, Chairman Mcl; eu StaE£ .preaestt,: . Associate_P1Mvker. Cowes In the absence of the Chairman and Vice-Chairman, Member Koenitzer was. , toted.'W'bd the Acttin8-�Q4eirm :.. . Motion carried, 2-0-1 APFROVA3� OF MIR E$ minutes of January. 17, 1974 and*.Tanuary 23, Minutes to be approved at1974. next regular Member Dressler moved, seconded by ,ge bpr Wei.nsteinj to .continue meeting approval of minutes to:the,next regular member since twa,'kee rs of the committee were::akksent.• Motion garried. 3-0 POSTPON M IITS Staff requested item:6., HC-51,2or n„ t eoHomeowners Group should continued tinued to allow them to •5 get a legal opinion on whether or not the be contacted. Mr• LicBain of De Anza Oaks had expressed his willing ness to delay for two weeks. Member bTeinstein moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to continue item 6.for two weeks. Motion carried,, 3-0 F" IIC-lf{0 Y�It i ES OF THL FHfBtffA�Y 6, OL Page 2 WRITTEN CG MISNICATIONS - Now ORAL COMAIMONICATIONS - None PUBLIC HEARINGS {x HC-51,162.1 1. Application HC-51,162.1 of Pacific Gas and Electric Company PG&E requesting approval of site, architecture, lighting and Substation modification of landscaping for an addition to an existing substation located at the southeast corner.of Blaney:' A1V and Homestead Road. Staff Report: The Associate Planner gave a brief background of ;ate i- cation. The request now is installation of substation and additional lighting, architecture of building, lighting and screening of sub- station site are to be considered tonight. At Plannin; Commission meeting a question was raised about locatioit of substation. PG&E hadbeen asked to discuss design and location,:. The applicant felt they had received landscaping approval for south and east boundaries. mt- question-of a cr-eehirig `-ould UW stZudy=td resolve. s Slides of site and existing buildings were shoes. 'Alain fvidws .from different points on Blaney and Homestead. Member Dres,kler asked whir- 50 ft. standards were being requested. The Associate Planner said the applicant wanted higher standards so they would not need .as many futures'a- Also the higher ttie=fixtfute more control they have over the light pattern. Mr. Clifford Smith, 20065 Stevens Creek Boulevard, Cupdttino,-rsaLd they, had been through this several: times. Ir.._ans�e� to .Aiembe�,AmIRlej question as to why they had chosen this Corner next to 4aatdences for substation. Mr. Smith said it was the best spot from visual point of view. The call along easterly boundary line was built to protect residential area. He said it was difficult to see the site from the freeway going west. Member Dressler asked if noise would be offensive to residences. Mr. Smith said they would be averaging about 46 dbA. at the propert• liae. They hoped the wall would have impact to offset sound. 60 cycle sound is of very low frequency. The Associate Planner pointed out the ambient level is higher than 46 dbA. because of the freeway. Member Weinstein asked about sound level, hew it was measured and how the atmospheric conditions affected it. Mr. Smith explained. :He., said during damp weather the transmission lines did hum louder. However the transmission lines did not transmit sounds. Would have to be directly under overhead wires and the atmospheric conditions just right for this to occur. 141 MUMnS OIL THE Ff:SE b b, 1074"$-CONTF�bL"MH 8G_* 8C-1®i� Page 3 ® Member Weinstein questioned' whether there were neq. tra;iem�'sei�n wires coming into substation. . Sabi# salo, the limes e�own ,on „ r plan were in. There will be one mare structure iuilt a,nit would be about 35 ft.. Member Weinstein asked'why''they ad`to be this high. Mr. Smith said there were three reasons': (l) drainage problem, land area involved and pole had to be 35 ft. 'tb`meet Wire.clearance regulations. In answer to Acting Chairman Koenitzer, Mr. Smith elk►lained why using another tower would not allow structure level to be lowered.' He explained the line of site diagram, pointing out_ exdsting tower,. is 35 ft. Member Weinstein asked about landscaping along wall. Mr. Smith said the trees were taking hold and in a year should provide screening. He explained their landscaping intent. They had';'-' interspaced Monterey Pines on their side of the wall to create screening with existing trees on freeway side. " Mr.. Clark Bonner said he had been in development of this station y since 19b$. He gave further background of site and application., " ` He said they must have 32 €t. of height underneath transmission line for Anything that accessible to vehicles or man. He also explained what noise could be expected. Member Weinstein said he could not discern what architecture of Architecture contrer'- building was. Mr. Smith said it was a prefab' 9teelex ' building housing electrical switching equipment which could be painted any color. Mr. Bonner said there were numer us Ainctions" on site and described uses of existing buildings. He -sa & this building will be approximately 10 ft. high and has no windows: Member Weinstein was concerned that people not see anythfn g but " the 35 ft. pole and maybe the 18 ft. pole: He asked if PG&E 'had t ever talked to the adjacent residents and was told these'people had been contacted. Member Dressler questioned use of metal building. Acting Chairman Koenitzer said he would like a better building but because of location on site and other equipment it wouldn't be seen that much. Member Weinstein said he didn't feel the landscaping plan was Landscaping detailed enough. lie would like to see a more precise plan. Mr. Smith said the plan was approved by the ASAC in 1971 and these plants were in. The Associate Planner explained the starf's positi4 . He suggested giving the applicant some guidelines. Since plans are;, now known, the applicant could address landscaping so much more directly. He said all that had been approved was in. } fjf( P 1 HC-100 HINMES OF THE MFEp, .1 14 ZI-9=ROI• bE G . Page Acting Chairman Koenitzer-noted recommendation made previpc l ked for He tEo 12 ft, trees oii 20 ft, ceciters. " Me did` hot get the feel bg from lops king ae;the sli&s that these sizes here plashed', ,htir.' S aAfh agreed they"wrie not that Height, but they hod u44d' the 5--$talon` size. ticting'Cl airman Koenitrer read= the c�nd lion ufiicfi di`d it tt } mention gallon size. In answer to Member Dressler, Mr. Smith said they vitro in thePpiosess of trade with. City and. would bring in landscaping plans for Blaney Avenuearea. In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Smith said it was thought the frees would afford screening *within the next year. They were set out 6 fill in gaps. Member Weinstein said he would like to see something other than Monterey_ Piss. He said if the screeniltig were adequate,`hL a Could go along with th- Aron shack and wire fence. Lighting Member Dressler asked if the applicant would consider some lowet `! lights. Mr. Smith expli-ined the lights were covered with hoods- iitcd well screed., The, union,said they must have a, certain amount of ifr light. Tfie tall standards keep the lights `from `spilling over into e adjacent yards. -r< Member Weinstein said light does not have to be lifted up if more: poles were used. Mr. Smith said he thought this'was the.best wayl to protect.neighbors. Member Weinstein suggested working toward lower pole i�eight with an appropriate` ratio to satisfy uaioii Mr.. Bonner said because of the energy crisis they were tryir td'iase fewer lights. Member Weinstein, disagreed. He felt moc4ficatiou" needed or. bighting. He said lie, did not want to see the. I ghCs: -" Acting Chairman Koenitzer said he felt 25 ft. should be the maximum pole height and ;suuggested more and lower' poles. Mr. Smith, said rather than have to come back on other things they would `withdrati ' lighting application and make changes. in answer to Member Weinstein relative to additional landscaping on easterly and southerly property lines, Mr. Smith said they would fill in areas where the holes showed up but hoped what they had in would work out. Types of trees to be planted on freeway side were discussed. Mr. Smith exp'ained reason for low growing plantings was transmission lines. Acting Chairman Koenitzer noted this was a Public Hearing and asked for comments from the audience. There were none. t i .tv . e :. n MUTES OF THE FESHUA 94 h L ;u a Page 1�Z r to &lose public Hearin t Dre$616r, moed secohdedby ose$ Nembeer Weinsteinv Pvblic Reartug. L :a; Motion carried, 3-0 CouncI of RC--51,162.1 roval to the`City approved wf Member Dressler recommended gpp conditions ;v 162.1 of Pacific Cas'`and Electric Compair�, Application:HC-51, to include khibI.t9 sq;bje"• to standard H-Control conditions, A, E and B-1 only, with the foil conditions. , return within 60-days with the recommended (1) Th. applicant lighting plan�fair'the facility ; changes in their tin that he If the applicant chooses not to install slot`hEeessaill i (2) li ting . return a statement as to 'whY £ 3andscaping slang' (3) The applicant review the screenift9`o make recommendations south boundary common to freeway al that.,baeind8a ': iri-landscape s-cradmAng for closing period. within the same 60 days time Seconded by.Acting Chairman Koenitzex: w It Member Weinstein the motion to -a®d that the raviBed Pi s landscape examination Include also-thecal heaheight obf ply ings the property to address specifictllmyight be improved by added that exist now and how the Neigh s . Seconded`b'!�1 a that exist this time within 60 'day Dressler. } VOTE ON AMENDMENT AYES: Dressler, Weinstein and Acting Chairman Koenitzer "rlOES: Bone Amendment passed, 3-0 e VOTE ON MOTION instein and Acting Chairman Koenitzer AYES: Dressler, We NOEo: hone Motion carried, 34 licant was uot+•fied this would be heard by the City Council The asp 1974 meeting. at its February19, I T HC-100 AiIKB11'ES OF THR ice.6„ =S40 L, :.a ?;_` page 6 HC-51,230.10 2. Application HC-51,230.10 of Fashion Fabrics (Farn Reed) request— Fashion g approval of.,a s#gafplan avA,modiacatlon.of-.;atdiftatefte &ear Fabrics a commercial building located in the Payless.cotpleft atithe south- west corner of Homestead Road and Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. Staff report: The Associate Planner showed slides of the store and shopping center. He indicated where the existing Payless Store is being divided so as to forts an additional retail operation bet ° Payless and PW Market., Hp suggested a; condition of approval shy be that the store is modified for splitting. He pointed ate_ whefs<r the sign would be hunga Mr. Cowan mentioned the size of sign in relationship to smaller tenant and the mounting of the sign. It was clarified=that .the building department has not. approved building modification. Member Weinstein asked if,:thete-would be more splitting and the Associate Planner said there was not City ordinance that w-auld probibit it from taking place. A diagram on comparison of sign heights was displayed and explained by Mr. Cowan. 3 Mr. Farn Reed, 169 Medford, Hayward, said he had not intended-to apply for building modification as did not have lease signed as yet. Lease will be contingent on getting sign and approval for modification of building front. He vould .,be willing to%go for a smaller sign. Color could bt changed to ivhite to conform with the other signs. A brief discussion was held on general-approach:for 'siguing:;on this shopping center. Member Weinstein asked about letter style and Mr. Reed said it was the Fashion Fabrics logo. The letters are 3 ft. on_larger 'and 2=ft. on lower case. 80-93 sq. ft. of sign was considered adequate by the committee. Mr. Reed said he would hope for at `least 90 .square:feet. Member Dressler suggested raising letters but Mr. Reed said it :would be difficult to hi4e back pieces. 1rchitecture The Associate Planner said the applicant was not interested in getting approval of architecture. Mr. Reed said he had architectural drawing of proposed design and an approval now would save a future application. The committee studied the drawing. Mr. Myron W. Hatch, 8000 Edgewater Drive, Oakland, described the modification, noting the doorway would be aluminum similar to the existing doors on the building. t I � QP aA�r ►lP�if a` j ' 7'fanl'' „ ��f�st;':a `t j`�� v�'� �,�z tp '�"��Q�„ 1�a�e d,. Acting Chdirman Koenftzer opened the 16e tiug ta dainmi*ts •ff*orti`J'&b atidiente.-` There were noad. Member Weinstein moved, seconded by Hember gresaler, to close the Public Hearing Publid�2ledrifig y closed d s . . � • �� Mdtioft "carried;; 3-0' Member Weimstain moved that Application 'AC-511236.10'be Greco nd"' HC-51,230.10 for approval to City Council-with the standard V.-Control conditions- approved w/ and in accordance with Esch bit P and the follcVi ig additidna&>' condition modification: (1) That the building modification be subject to approve]: by the building department. (2) Color of rhe-'let'texs of the ptdposed sign be' changed €soon:°f rea to white and that -th#,, ;nt letter` size be- 3= ft;, high; that the total lesigth of the- 'sign`-not exceed 30, ft. and therefore the area of the sign not exceed 90 square aet. Seconded by Member' Uresslex. ® AYES: Dressler,, Weinstein and, Acting Chairman Koenitzer NOES: None - Potion carried, 3-0 The applicant was notified this would be heard by t 4: City Councili, on Februarys 19, 1974. 3. Application HC-51,320 2 of Ka,rpet King .requesting approval . KC-51,320.2 of a sign plan for a commercial building located at the Karpet King nottheast corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard and Randy Lane. Staff report: The Associate Planner said the sign was illegal in that it was not approved by this body. He gave background of appli- cation. The sign on Random Lane and the sign on fascia of .overhang were to be removed. The applicant was requesting sign mounted now be approved. It is too large and is not ne sign approved. Slides were shown of the building and the sig::G. Member Weinstein noted that if proposed amendments go throue-, the sign would again be non-conforming. It was noted the cr)wn sticking up above structure was illegal. '�.T tic-10t1 tiYEtti'TE$ OF TEE FESI�� page 8 The sign that had been approved was passed around for the committee I�te Assaciai*e 1Pla; g; ��,d,�he C ►a�6 was � to ,exami • ca te+s about future sfgn program far that bui3.dA$. a consider whether the store next dear should have s painted sign.Mr. Earle Montague, 2532 Dose Way, Seta Clara, said :fir. had to leave Loran and had tasc�farm to whateve him to attend rhwoul3timakeng ait indicate .phis ,-4agness , . legal legal. Weinstein said he voul:1 prefer not to have painted sigwd` be removed- �s��e�'about the crown but sign an fascia should . . Mr. Montague could not answer his q ested that the committee give guidelines for The Acting Chairman sugg mr. Montague to relay to owner. Member Weinstein said the first guideline should be something under 60 square feet (19 ft. in length and 3 ft. in height) so is 8 dt nt. He would like to not he, non-confosmi Df si.gn. under prapoeed:amett see, a gene ral up grading- Acting Chairman Koenitzer voted for 30 sq• ft. because he had exist- was far too big and now o;f the things asked:c;' ing sign. This sign not over 45 sq. ft. and for had been done. He would prefer sign did not lika,p a3;nted :sign on bari.Zdix�g•,, ,He could jive with colors ' but would prefer sip can, ested; something that adjacent owners could use Member Dressler. Ougg ested the owner come in and discuss also. Member Weinstein sugg this with the staff. -51 320.2 Member Dressler recommended continuing Application tiC-51,320.2 to the TiC s lar meeting. Seconded by..�im�aexeicrstein. continued next regu Motion carried, I At 9:55 p.m. a recess was called, with the meeting reconvening at 10:05 p.m. REVIEW OF CHAINGE OF COPY OF SIGN FACE: Mary Jakob Realty) requesting change of copy 4. Otsen Signs ( located at 10051 East Estates Drive. of an exi3ting sign of January 23, 1974. Continued from H-Control meeting .F- I�YII+iE3'1'ES OF THE FEB dItY fi, 'i974 �t- bk*ROL T4kETi #i: '•� r RC-100 Page `4 }4q Staff 'reports The applicant hAd'� changed face of -sign cap thin, tie Idylwild Center without approval and is here requesting"appzova�. a_ x Slide's were shown of the building and. signs,. Also kcenter sign` and existing` building sign. The previous pole sign was shown. The size was not changed, just the copy. 3 Acting Chairman Koenitzer noted that one of the comments made earlier was that the signs were far too busy. Member Weinstein asked about square feet in building. Mr. Cowan `' said he did not know, but the signs were legal in terms of' square footage. s f Mr. Mary Jakobs, 10051 E. Estates Drive, Cupertino, 'gave history of his business. When he joined the franchise of Century 21, he had t:) change signs. He was not ware that he should have comIe� for another permit. He felt present sign was more aesthetic. Member Weinstein said it was not this sign pet' 'se; it was Ae srignin in the ent ire.center. I He said the sign does not look right tI.,eking above 'roof.' "Re would'have preferreds to have can `chidnged"eina' the ' r sign 'to be completely redesigned. ` He referred to new ofdinincs " R that might make this sign non-conforming. He does snot like Sign 'ut � does not know what can be done. 111r. Jakob said had-6 known abouC` ` ` it, he would have been glad to come in before paying $1000.00 for this sign. i Acting Chairman Koenitzer said he didn't like the 'sign as it is far too busy but since it is up he doesn't know what to do with it. ` - pointed out signs in window are illegal as only 25% of window area - 1 can be covered. i Member Weinstein asked what the applicant intended to do with sign in window. Mr. Jakob said the sign had been in the window for 9 years and was to keep the sun out. When the new ordinance goes in he will be willing to go along with it. Acting Chairman Koenitzer said the window sign is illegal under the existing ordinance. Mr. Jakob said he would comply to written notice from the City. The meeting wac opened to comments from the audience. There were ' none. Member Dressler moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, to close Public Public Hearing Hearings. closed Motion carried, 3-0 ZIC-100 MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY b,, IJ74 Ik--CUN410L MEEM-q, Page 10 �e Y i t t i Minute ! Member. Weinstein .proposed a.Minute Order that change of copy fqr Order ; Mary Jakdb Realty �be approved'and that the existing,window s s be the subject,°d€ 'review by the staff. With the 'likelihood-these' will be found illegal, if this is the case, staff be directed to . notify the 'owner to comply with Sign" Ordinance as. it red eat]- exists. Seconded by Member Dressler. Motion carried, 3-0 ' UNFINISHED BUSINESS HC-51,050.2 5. Application HC-51,050.2- of Bank of America requesting , Bank of modification of the sign plan for an existing bank America facility located 300 ft. west of the intersection of Saratoga.-Sunnyvale Road and Stevens Creek Boulevard on the north side of Stevens Creek Boulevard., Staff report: The applicant is requesting to,remove a sign which spells out Bank of America from the west elevation, to the east elevation. ` A drawing showing proposed change was passed among the committee memt,ers. e Mr. Peter I , Smith, 260 Fifth Street,- San Francisco, described the sign change. The change was for reasons of identity. Air. Smith explained previous hearings had not, included hits. In answer, to Member Weinstein, Mr. Smith clarified sign locations on building. Acting Chairman Koenitzer explained the previous applications fore f signing for this building. He noted- it took a sign exception for two signs. :Mmber Weinstein asked .about B of A logo. Mr. Smith said they were still. used. Member Weinstein said he did not like ` sign up on wall as proposed, and would prefer to see the logo on the wall. Mr. Smith said they only had one standard size logo and if this was acceptable, he was agreeable. Acting Chairman Koenitzer said he saw no reason for sign exception, and if there was to be a sign on building, the north wall 'would `be the best location. It was ascertained the standard logo is 3'8"x5' . The meeting was opened for comments from the audience. There were none. Member Dressler moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 3--0 WWI vXrr t. zrr e=SB r t` y IUMES OF THE FEBRUARY 6, 1974 H-WN=OL MEETING F,C-106 age 11 _ Member'tAefiiecein prbposd a tlinute` Or& to apprope a "1eaton` `� G-51,050.2 of Bank of America to e23tci.aate tti Bihk of` America-si& 9n Trost rproved elevation and to place a staslbard" of A logo on tfie easy eleva= tfcn its the 'same Place where the' prbposed Batik' of Anr',erica sign was to be located:` Seconded byyMember Ditessler. f s Motion carried; 2-1 Koedit�aer No 6. Application HC-51,241.5 of De Anze Oaks requesting I -51,241.5 modification of the recreation area for the cohdbmifiium^' continued project located 1600 ft. �west-o Foothill Expressitisy dd Permanente Road. r Continued until the next meeting. NEW tUSINESS 3 7. Bumbleberry Eaterpriyes; Inc. -requesting appro4ail= of a L: Bsunbleberry temporary sign Vlan for anr.exi4tIng restsurant fncillty L"'' temporary si ,locaed at the north side of Stevens Creek Boulevard, loca Staff report., -The Associate 'Planirer said this request-Pis- for a temporary;.sigh. The appliaadt is going to breakfast'type operation--, and would like to make a special promotion for ten =diysr- or two -iieeks,: After !a brief discussion Member Dressler proposed' a Mi nnte Order 'riLnute Order recommending approval of one temporary sign for Bumbleberry Ehoter- prises, Inc. for existing restaurant facility to announce their new breakfast menu. The temporary sign to be placed on their facility for 43 days to allow them two weeks and three weekends. Seconded by Acting Chairman Koenitzer. i Motion carried, 2-1 Weinstein No Member Weinstein wanted the records to note his objection was to length of time; he felt ten days was sufficient. ;:' Acting Chairman Koenitzer brought to the committee's attenti a Sandwich Boar sandwich board which has been placed on sidewalk of Bumbl be •` Y Restaurant during lunch hours. The staff was reques>t'e h into this. s i F Ft BC-100 THINUM OF nE MRU.= 69 1974 'n-w3nm smErm Page 12 Q Sign_Ord. I acting C.hairz-an Koeni tzer,,Mor= d�the. Pl s�nins, had Revision ' r d name Rs:visiom ,f�ac retsarne3 . . oTrse , f Ordf 5t� ssk ion toat t3ie °ro . .3t*ar Esti}ii sin reresenratves, oess men c&id d heirs V• :o would be 'af erted`6y ;be .chaff. ..fie qo,ra�sslozk felt the Change was L06 draatic not. to have public at lit. Member Weinstein zsred.for =ore data on existing sib relative to squar`e 'idotage, etc.' Acting Chairman Koenitcer said he thought it would come down to a philosophical question of "nova much sign is enough?". It was decided' to wait until staff had provided more data before setting up meeting for public input. PD Ordin- ' Acting Chairran Koenitzer reported that heand Member Sallan ance had appeared 'before ti:e City CoL�cil to s, eah on Planned Development Ordinance. He asked if Planning Commission would be hearing it on Monday. Staff member Co-,,ran said he was not sure. It was felt that somebody from H-Control should appear and present .the committee's , position. 1e_^ber Dressler appeared to be only availzble committee neuber for, that meeting.. :ir.. Cocsatf suggested tssat :e3c i'gtstaber could write an :individual letter giving his :views: Member Weinstein referred to quote by Commis+s,*pieir k_ellie calling for reduction in sign heights. He thought it would have been nice for her to have meat .card tzgse wa;,e topics or &#Lapad in ,the v H-Control cc= ittee. He appreciated heir.;support;,*;C ovdinance x mod, proposed ordinance. `afember Weinstein also distributed copies of tiashangt a pmdt dated i, Deceriber 31, 1973 re San Jose and Santa- Clara Val3 . The motion was made to adjourn at 11:22 p.m. to the next regularly scheduled .meting. Motion carried, 3-0 ATTEST: APPROVED: City C7.erk - Chap " -- - 00 MUM �9 t CITY OF.CUPL:RTINO, s�� `r �-` �:_' YA)_Ow , , 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California 95014 1�C-3Og Avenue, Telephone: 252-4505 Page 1 MINUTES,7OF t IMiR0dyUfij& MN&UG J(�F Tft AR jj!EGTtTMvAN9,Sftg, APPROVAI. CO<ISTTTEE HELD 0§14AY°.22, 1904 A 'CdMdL 41IAP ERdi- CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was opened at 7:35 p.m. by Vice-Chairwoman Sallan with the Salute to the -Flag: ; ROLL CALL Members present: Dressler, Xoenit'zer, Rogers, Weinstein, Via de=M ai rOodan Sal l an Members absent: None Staff present Assaci=ate.::Fladne Robert Cowan ELECTION OF NEW OFFICERS" Election of Officers Vice=Chairwom-kri Sallm ivas nominated for Chairwoman by Xesbe.r Koenitzer, steconded'by'Member Weinstein. Motion carried, 4-0-1 Abstain: Sallan Member Dressler nominated Member Koenitzer for Vice-Chairman. Seconded by Member Weinstein. Motion carried, 4-0-1 Abstain: Koenitzer APPROVAL OF MINUTES Minutes of April 17, 1974: On page 6, paragraph 3, Member Koenitzer wanted "and Santa Barbara, California" added. . On page 5, last paragraph, the last sentence should read "He then seconded the motion to continue discussion to next regular meeting' as noted by Vice-Chairwoman Sallan. BC-108 t4I1 UZUS OIL THE MAY 22, 1974,R-CONTWL HMMUG Page 6 Vice-Chairwoman. Sallan pointed out on page 7, paragraph S, line 60 the word "off" should be "of". Minutes of Member Koen$tzeX wed, seconded by Member Ws1n9,tqdn,; eo approve 4/17/74 the mi:nutee of Ap-ri.117, 1974 as amended. approved as corrected Motion carried, 3-0-2 Abstain: Dressler and Rogers Minutes of May 8, 1974: on page 9, paragraph 1, Vice-Chairwoman Sallan wished the words "to her" added to the first sentence. on page 9, paragraph 2, Vice-Chairwoman Sallan wished the follo_wA;ag sentence added. "Vice-Chairwoman Sallan explained she was concerned with the possibility of every, business requesting illuminated red background signs to be competitive with others." on page 13, paragraph 5 should ::tad, "Vice-Chairwoman Sallan said her concern was ttat the whole complex should integrate with exist- ing, landscaping-prise, in particular an improvement made to Sears' perimeter. Her other concern was to have more landscaping both on Wolfe Road frontage and in parking lots." on page 13., paragraph 8, the second line should read, "by.elimina- ting first row of parking stalls, to increase buffer from minimal:, 25 ' to at least 40' wherever possible. Member Dressler .. ..". Piinutes of There being no further corrections, Member Dressler moved, seconded 5/8/74 by Member Rogers, to approve the minutes of rsay 8, 1974 as corrected. approved as amended Motion carried, 3-0-$ Abstain: Koenitzer and Weinstein POSTPONEMENTS: None WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None PUBLIC HEARINGS: Sign Ordin- 1. Discussion of Sign Ordinance ance Chairwoman Sallan asked staff to comment, noting there was new thinking the committee should have a chance to react to. • T- S ,tal'�./. Zed .kr,;san., MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H-CONTROL H=1MG 90-108 Page 3 The Assocfcaee Planner refar 41 ..tc_ a4h&b&rFW C a r fcsr t1me, t®:.infa m theft; et sl i +anri=aLlctat~ hera<.ta 'st ,committee., ;He.noted stG:aff:had been .directed rt d,-tnvedt3tE ; add detevmin& how many sigma o-ere,-uoa-caiufanming. <;;Staff-hay.not,had time to do this. He referred to Mr. Sisk's memo of£iNdy, 4 924. They would like to see basic ordinance remain intact and chpnga "entitled" to "allow" which crnuld gkwe the:.�mutF tie:_c�sr�etd�r�a on sign size. Another p!roblers,was -the General, Plan,an4i`;Planned ,,.Development,situation. The _entire -ordlaance.,shduld be --re(r ewtd. Mr. Cowan noted the Senior Planning Technician had suggested guidelines, copies of which: were distributed too-the committee. Chairwoman $all= noted .interested members. of: the audience should have- copies also.; . The ,Associate PIannex noted;, changing the word Isen t i t le&' would gi:-v*e them= re discretion., and,,they, could adopt resolution on how to utilize guidelines. Gheirwomaan.,Sallan recapped .the: sign ordinance- discuss.ions,.for- Member Rogers;,; noting thee,corms ;ttee.ouet. ::rdake-.:a. decision .that` is best for everyone. Member Koenitzer ncte3 that Sections 5.11 (non-cortf-oradug s gms) and Section 7.021 are the meat of what committee wants to do. Ass voratorium fs .1ifted, ;there vwi:ll be maAy`developmenta, ecrni eg i for approval.- Member Weinstein ranted; changing the. word .aod ,adopting guiAiq.3.ines doesn`t solve the,=proKeta, He°is.-not An- f- vor of a "strop gap°1 ,measure. After further discuss#.on:, .they meting was opene# to public comment. Mr. Frank Mulkern, 20800 Homestead Road, Cupertino, said he concurred with Mr. Cowan's -remarks The City should know whether they are talking about 90% or 40% of signs aad what business, establishments will be in violation of height, surface areas, etc. He mentioned several areas not covered by the proposed revision - such as abatement period and tax recovery. He said the Chamber of Commerce is working on determining the maximum, minimums and mediums for all signs (shopping centers, free standing, etc.) to determine whether the signs in this City .are comparable to others. They need information from staff and time to complete their analysis. Chairwoman Sallan asked if they were planaaing. to poll or survey the eommu::ity. Mr. ,Mulkern said .the City, has the best medium. He noted this will provide what tho businesp community feels. RC-408 MINA OF 7HE NAY 22, 1934 H-CCVTROL MEETING Pap 4 Member Weinstein said he hoped this data would be a good statis- tical representation of sign ordinances and in tams comparable to Cupertino.. °He said One thing to :hick for is the date the ordinance was,: wed and what. difficUties they=have a a6uuntared in utilizing ordinance. Mr. Mulkern.said they would,hava figures touching on every one of the proposed revisions in comparable communities. Member Weinstein asked staffs if there was a mechanism to got community-at--large to participate. The Associate Planner said the Cupertino Scene would be a good vehicle and would be in ndkt month's publication if it had not been in last month's. Chairwoman Sallan asked if the committee favored forming ar reaiew committee as suggested in Mr. Sisk's memo of May 3. They have to make a decision on 5th draft or amending sections and adopt:'::g' guidelines. This was discussed by the committee members. Member Weinstein said the major problem is size and height; do not need to modify entire ordinance. He suggested getting Input from business community, from Mr. Heymann, and from Public Hear- ings for the nest two months. At the end of that periott take data and make decision. The ordinance must take into account non- conforming signs-. Mr. Carl Heymann, Jr., California Sign User ouncil and California Electric Sign Assoc., asked if t}pre were any questions from the committee. Member Weinstein asked if info ion had been supplied to staff; Mr. Heymann sad the `nap'-had. been. givrs e to the -Planning Director. Mr. Meytiaaava dad haak baen Idalegated by the State to write sign ordinance. He repeated his offer that if the committee wanted ad-rice, all they had to do was pick up the phone and make an appointment. The Associate Planner not`edd they had received ordinance from Sacramento and other information that is being assimilated. Chairwoman Sallan summarized there are two ways to go. One is to take 5th draft and continue Public Hearings on it for two months. At the end of that time they will compile input and make determina- tion. The second way is to adopt some immediate changes to ordin- ance and adopt interim policy guidelines. Member Koenitzer said a complete revision of sign ordinance would take 6 or 9 months of work. To get something changed in time frame, he would like to see wording in Section 7.021 changed from "entitled" to "allowed by discretion of committee" and see if this can be approved. He would favor adopting interim guidelines.. Chairwoman Sallan concurred. It was ascertained that the City Attorney had approved changing the words in the Ordinance. Member Dressler noted making change would give committee area to practice judgment. He suggested taking guidelines home and studying them. will FJYtWE,S OF S MAY Zf; ING x f r Pap 5 Member Koenitaer moved to contiut f�tiC Hdritr a$i`:si o �d ance tQ next re&n.4ar meetin as it was past the time limrit that had_` bees set S camtded"ty' ei�'w gssiexg: x . 'Motion carried, 9_i.0 It was decided` ftitthdr' Aiscussi6n dho' Yd he field on tion-edhfdrifiig signs with regard to time spread IRS allows. McAer`Koenitzer moved to fbTwdrd a rdsolution to Planning Comm§- Resolution on sion that the 'H-Control tommittee rdcdm6iftds reivising Section- Sign Ordinance 7.0f1''6t f the Sign O dfnance. ' the first sentence to read:: "Each business establishment will unless othettise specified 'in Sactioii be alloWed, at the discretion of the H-Control Co�sittee, up to a total alga surface area' of 3� of' fl6or` d;ia sa''id staTilfBli et: occt pids in a building or $utidingg Faith no credit for parkinst space inside or outside of, C"ildings, and with the following excepilons ........ " Seeondia-=by 'Member Dtessle'r. Motion carried, 5-0 Chairwoman. Sallan asked the committee members to look at proposed jaddlines c-Wif be prepared'"to adopt inte fn'guidelines sled` t6vtdoi ® proposal'#2 of Mr. Sisk's May 3rd memo at the next meetitt 2. Application HC-51,002.8 of Joseph and Cecelia Valle iigiids HC-51,002.8 ing approval of site, architecture, landscaping and gradin Joseph and -For-a triplex located on Lot C, La Cresta Subdivision, Cecelia Valle. Alpine Drive. Staff reports The Associate-P 4diier showed an aerial photo"oi the area, pointing put that the grade falls €ast to west and north: He also showed slides of the lot and`'ae"acent property, Mr. Cowan pointed out the application is straightforward ant con- sistsat with zoning requirements. Each unit has own pirivate patio area. There are no privacy problems. The grading plan submitted is the only realistic workable plan. He pointed out high retainin wall on north boundary line. Member Weinstein noted the two story unit fronts on Alpine Drive. He felt this was a good solution to privacy problem on Vista Knoll. He noted he was still waiting for the Planning Commission to do something about the area. Mr. Joseph Valle, 1381 Pauline Drive, Sunnyvale, signed in to answer questions. h. , n rwnf Page 6 Site T�dslca lute t an a$ Architecture l+ eg fete -WV . p thy: - ge wished the minutes to recce t ibis 401 ieatto�a tw�o story 1Ps? i fa Csg„t .street if it were on the other side of the street it would coot rep t, or at least would minimize, any privacy tsusIQn ap re�S ';qtt, Vista Bao$1L.��vd. , Landscaping Member Hoenitzer noted 'the s:L&valb° leading to the seivi c e t should start 3 or 4 feet closer to the street which won p bigger plarting areas in corneas. uzvOmnded by sidewalk., ;7['�1$, BhJ.s second comfit .taaa >that_ should be matched an other ant �. V as in fraat of illarsain ghe. there shoulti.be .larger pl, g middle of tbe ,garage area. ;j s Chairwoman, Sall" said these:verer.areas she had noted on her P$ so. She suggested the proposed ?�Y ,fin front of garag2 GQ � l area ill, the Pittosporu .,<Y a columnar type.grlant: in,P ant. fiat. . should be chang�d._&�com d�tarx variety _of Tobira. The a�R agreed taller things could be plar►ted. Grading it was noted the"gradisg was satisfactory. e et�.n y wsa rhea. opened ,to c $s_ scam the audience« , P,, were none.., �A Public Hearing Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to closes closed Fubic.:>Heaadngs,, ration carAdd,:Sr0 Member- Koenitzer .moved to second approval, of Application I HC-51,002.8 s HC-SI�,d?®2;,$ to the- Giay Council. -tt►- the standard couclit�.ap =,� J. approved w/ s eeific ,coedit arts. conditions Exhibits A, C and D and-w�tttn. the, following p (1) That the planting areas,to the right.and left ,side,,Of the garage be increased by extending them tovaxd' the.stxeetl. by approximately 3 feet. (2) That the planting area in front feby pillars aBProximately increased by extending toward the street 3 feet. (3) That the dwarf Tobira be changed to a larger growing variety. (4) , That,.the ivy La front be, replaced with a taller ,shrub. Seconded by Member Weinstein. ININ E,S OF THE MAY 2 '; 'l6 4`A-G I. '2 I t; " #r208 Fade 7 . . ., wax. ,. ... ,AYES: Members Dressler Koenitsez. Rogers, Weinstein . ChairS,tam� . . p - Sallan . . x NOES: Haire Motion cafrie'd, 5-0` Chiikwoman Sallan noted the application had been approved and would be heard by the City Council on June 3, iO4. 3. Application HC-51,254.2 of Marianist Provittee of the HC-51,254.2 Pacific requesting approval of site, architecture, 'Marianist landscaping, grading and lighting for a religious and Province of th educational facility located adjacent to mid wdsterly Pacific of the western terminus of Merriman Road. Staff report! The Associate Planner used an aerial pnoto to point out the 3 acres invci.ved. It is a religious facility used as a residential hor..e. The development will not gefteYate traffic or visitations from the public. The major tree is a monumental oak in center of site which will be kept. Member Koenitzer question ed the removal '-of a pepper tre He pointed out several others which he felt could'We' rot iiih dd. H said the developer should be encouraged to do so. Chaircboman bll relative to this concern, asked if staff<aas coiisideritag develop- ing a policy for saving large trees. She would like to .see, some future dealing with this matter. Slides were shown of the property. The property line is about 10" from curb. The property will be surrounded by a six foe- redwood fence on the 'fsorth, west and part of the east, and a grapestake fence with'briek coluihnna 'is proposed for the Alealde and Merriman Road entrances. Mr. ' Cowan distributed pictures of the type of fence to be used. Chairwoman Sallan commended the staff for omitting central porti of landscaping since the committee's emphasis would be on the perimeter landscaping. There are 20' lighting standards being proposed for the tennis court. Mr. Jim Davenport, 919 The Alameda, San Jose, said the pool now exists. The property is not currently being used. There will be a cabana arclmd the pool. There will be recreational t;nd shower facilities. Approximately 24 novices and several teachers will be living in the units. k i� tt- „- HC-108 mums OF THE MAY 22, 19T4 #-WNTHQL .N==O par 8 i m Chairwoman Sallan ascertained it would be a single tennis court. Architecture P ember Koehiltzer expressed concern about' 25' high buildings; feel-ing this was high for a single story building. Mr. Davenport said the highest portion was the chapel area. The residential structure would be 21'. Mr, Davenport e=e-lained they had tried to hold the living units back from the property line. Member Dressler noted the oak tree, which is approximately 40 to .50 Feet high, would obscure the buildings. Landscaping Ms. Mary Gordon, landscape architect, pointed out the trees an the site that would be kept in answer to Member Koenitzer. Member Rogers asked what was being used arount the tennis court. Ms, Gordon described plants being used, noting they ,will be on 7 to 10 foot spacings. Chairwoman Sallaa ascertained_ how the site would look from the periq metere, PIs. .Gordon described the two types of fencing being used. The grapastake fence will be made from wine barrel staves and will L.e a valuable asset. The 6 foot fence is of galid redwood boards that would protect neighbors. Chairwoman Sallan questioaad if there was adequate screening of the tennis court. Ms. Gordon said she had purposely used plant�nga that would enable the duplex adjacent to enjoy the feeling of open .space. la answer to Chairwoman Sallan, Ms. Gordon gave her point of view regarding landscaping in relationship to noise o?hich was essentially that it can act as a noise buffer to some extent. Grading The grading was determined to be satisfactory. Lighting Chairwoman Sallan asked to have the overall lighting plan for the project described. His. Gordon said in general it was to provide low level illumination for peripheral area and take advantage of lights on buildings. There are a few path lights with some peripheral lighting for illumination to shrubbery growth, Mr. Davenport said the type of fixtures would be Presco lights low, round bulbs. Brother Robert, of the Marianist Order, said they have metal louvers that shoot light to ground. The color would be chosen by Ms. Gordon. He said there would be a light under the oak tree shooting up and one "lantern" type at roadway entry. Chairwoman Sallan asked visual intrusion of lights at tennis court. Brother Robert said they would not be more than 18 to 20 feet high. The fencing would be 10 feet and there were trees. There will be four standards. Member Rogers ascertained the trees are 35:' pines, Brother Robert pointed out the lights would not be 0 k S,' tat+fCr 47 4ef�t� s,�� q�.�,. .(��P ,f� qp� ��y.�+ MOM O aWa� MAY cfs4,�`A�'Y`[fi��T:z�&E1��VLi� f'+sss' Ym a.v.tri3edx Page 97, on caux4 sous iy,;only *err.c99rt_w were{f D e r amti gl ouldr�not d i= , b8-every eveaina, OaAwigmep,Sallan s d�R ea We=of,phe location of t1w.40. Ai $?: th3:s c9t ber.,a-potentjall.,,p oblep,if,t�' so r.Feere would be a great demand for them, it was unusual to light courts. Mr. Davenport pointed 4. xt4ey.8t" ,a�t$e1de�1. x.,C#aj%wo v Sallan questioned the need for four lights for one court. She =p�uggested, copginniug, thlo.-,portion of:application.;to,th+� now .meting. Brother Robert ,sa*d they.-would„ be,%w3lliPg to ''ring- 3tn the tennis court lighting; at a;much lat." date and rMr,,,D:avear, port said at that time they could .p.repare a viamai "agram.•.;,_ ., The meeting was, opened; to the public for.comments,. ; There Were'; none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Hearing Public Hearings. closed Ration carried', 5-0 Member Dressler moved to recommend approval to the City Council HC-51,254.2 of. fpplication H.C-51,254,.2 of.Mariapist Province. of;the;racifio•; approved w/ subject to standard H-Control conditions. aad submitted Exhibit$;;, conditions A,;IB&, H-1, B-2, 8.-3, c and D with the following spq!gific;,cQP4i.*,. Alk tl.ans (l) That- the tennis court lighting; be withheld from this. ,, application and to be reconsidered by . the applicant and submitted at a later date for approval. (2) To .coupliment the applicant for beauty and appearance of, facilities.proposed in application. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. AYES.: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwom Sa.1.I.an NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 Chairwoman Sallan notified the applicant the application had been approved with the exception of the tennis court lighting and woul be heard by the City Council an June 3, 1974. At 9:45 p.m. Chairwoman Sallan announced a recess with the meetin reconvening at 9:57 p.m. HC-108 _ HINUTES OF THE MAY -22 9 s L9-7W�j4* 1 t r A*' 3. Page 10' _ HC-51,075.361 4� Application,,Be-51,07514 361 tfUr.. 'no i.d.S. Qe4tibst4ngr appr®val of- sigh„01afi for a'l11 tVfiW ttiLji (Bern O'Connor s _ y-buiTdisfg l6cated4v-1e435= and 165% N�-'�anE llve9it �cf Member'°0reneler.abstained-from diseuddif = = Staff--repo : The appliedtioft is for twb 4' -61;signs, 6 1Wftitrial buildings " Tantau-Avenue•. Signs are cute fitly `nstilled' -They are consistent with Ordinance in all respects.' ''The signs ate 0®od frame with painted plywood faces Slides were shown of the signs and buildings In questida. ' 'one°is facing Tantau Avenue side and one is on the second building-dUber to the freeway. The Associate Planner referred to point made in staff repott°ant signs could relate better to building designs. He showed a sign exhibit- on,previous rendering of building 03. Member Weinstein asked if the original sign had been approved and Mr. Cowan said it had not been part of the original application. Mr. William'Tagg, Valleo Park representative, iA-,answer to `Chailr- wamanIs question as to• why the signs were installed-without s#ptoval bar the City, and why the. deviation, froai'doneeptual plan; saiddhel, didn't know why the signs were up. He suggested that on the,ibald- ing Vallco Park owas the sign be modified. Vallco Park owns build- in.gs f!'1 and f2 He agreed the sign 16e ed dt'dfk .: 'He suggested the hedge be trimmed and sign lowered. Mr. Bern O'Connor of I.S.S. said the sign had been up about 3 or 4 weeks and had been installed to identify buildings for cor06tate visitors. He indicated their willingness to`comply with wishes of the committee. Member Koenitzer said a heavy, dark, broad wood frame around it would tie it in with the building and mane it appear to be it 66r+e intregal part of the building. He had no objection to the text and color of the sign. He referred to the sign at Clean Scene Car Wash as an example of a wood frame. Chairwoman Sal.lan suggested continuing both signs to next meeting to allow applicant to incorporate staff suggestions. Member Weinstein said the real problem was location. It should be mounted to the right of the tree, then it could be a low profile monument type sign. Member Rogers noted she did not like flar ;i base on sign as shown on rendering. With regard to building U3, Member Weinstein suggested turning sign to face the street. Optimum solution would be to change sign to what architect had originally planned. Mr. Tagg said the I.S.S. _ M =a MnWM OF THE riEW-2' 197-4,84ONTR .. _ ,' 1? a ,to' use blue &rA-:W it<e::=' me*ber veln"Oft bg'aebdl itbti Intent fe; to �hlena sl, lwith buildings. Reber Kbeituz6i fell-t e sigw:al�ould be maer-ad.tbUiazd' the:,street,, dud,sr catatre`te' ats�p►Orc copying lines of- .p:Ulars'om 'bdilding.-bel'used.; 4ombbt ltgersf di not Want; to too n, too":elaborate support concrete st ture, preferring more straight lines. Cheirwonan.Sallan noted these ere good videline�s and'asked the applicant:to return to 'the-next m etiag with a rendering. The hearing was opened for comments from the audience. •=Thero-, re none, Piember Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Rogers., to ;close Public Public Hearings. Member hoenitzer then moved, seconded by Hearing Mmber :Rogers, to continue Application HC.-51,075.361,.tq the. ;. closed axext,meetinry. Notion carried k,`A**O#- `i,; Abstain: Dresalm L p,.-i 5, Application EC-51,027.I4 of James W, P'oug- Associft = -51,027 14 (Security Pacific National Bank).;requesting approwil o Security sites architecture,; landscaping, grading.4uct.st�nirig<fo� Pacific A bank fac#:lity located at the northeast corner, of, � National Pacifica Drive and Saratoga-Suna�yvale.ttoad. Bank Staff report: The Associate Planner reported the committee had recorrsnen4ed the ap gpnt of asphalt in back., of bank be-decreased. That was incorporated into use permit approved by the City CouncIA. He located ,the site for those. menb$rs. of he„committee who had not been present at last meeting. The: baste ci rculation had been approved. He noted 5' of landscaping was propassd for ,A the easterly boundary. The planning commission. had,. adoptQd::a ; s esolution calling. for 76' of: parking area which gave:, 9,°,•for, landscaping. The applicant had continied lawn around berm area. , The Associate Planner pointed out the landscaping at egress/ ingress at northern section. of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road..should be rounded off. There is 10' sidewalk with street trees along this frontage; applicant is proposing 5' sidewalk. The directional sign at Pacifica Drive is fairly large. The application calls for two wall signs on west and east facing elevations. An exception has been filed for a ground sign. Chairwoman Sallan noted modification to sidewalk area at main entrance had not been made as was suggested. x MINUMS OF THE 1974 B. ROV MEN ." t 'j Page Mr. James Foug, 770 Welch Road, Palo Alto, noted they intended to p t=lag IV,sUIWA7lkks-. The building~.setback will :be>inL t=to 01-. Mt~-, t - trees in the, V landscaged area wburd $a and bOUCT patk,ift floc. -.die noted thdre'vill be landscaplvr°ibu-a+djacent property also Ube& it is developed He�displayed plan abouio<g adjustments. Bank has agreed to landscape on corner as rec6fthended. Site la, answer to r Dressler, Mr.. Foug explained sloping land bap- ing berm, noting it followed same angle as building. ChaisCmoman Sallee asked why sidewalk In front of bank had'not-been modified. Mr. Foug said the building faces street and they-T anted to give feeling, of opening to the street. He explained hots it related 'to 'their mDtif. He thought it would be exposed ag$ gate. The 9' landscaping area was discussed. Mr. 'Cowan read tite Yesolu- tion by City Council. The real intent was to keep the pparkiiaj area under 851. Minimum is 65' by Ordinance. 72' would satisfy requirement. Architecture Member Dressler questioned why something was not doa¢- on: front of buildings pointing out the large expanse of ecfticrete`panel. Mr. Foug said it would be cement plaster with tile- ioof.. -Thei"building is small- and:: -,they thought it better architectur-al J.udgment to use ottie material to date: cohesive. des,igm. There in `be a,'vertical hone texture to cement. The winnows will be solar bronze aluminum with bronze glass. It was ascertained the building is 25' at highest point. Landscaping Member Koenitzer requested something other than ivy on slope in front of bank building. Mr. Foug said they- wanted a tailored"'imi- form look to berm. Ivy can give this. The landscaping is being handled by an expert architect. Could show an alternate, but this type ivy stays neat, uniform and lush when properly maintained. Member Koenitzer asked the Liquid Ambar tree be changed to an evergreen of some kind. Chairwoman_Sallan explained reasons for using evergreen trees based on adopted interim guidelines, and Mr. Foug agreed. The Associate Planner referred to Minute Order of Planning Commission asking the committee to study safety of ingress/egress. Planting should be of low nature. Member Koenitzer noted that with 101 sidewalks they should not have to worry too much about the landscap- ing. Mr. Foug said they had not intended to plant any trees there. Chairwoman Sallan noted one area of concern; the low profile of grass on south elevation. There are no plantings proposed there. She was not sure this was best approach. Mr. Foug explained their reasoning for having no irregular height plantings. MllW= OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H-COMMOL HWING Page 13 Chairwoman Se]~Ldn questioned use of gunI#dass betwebh Itrdmw Cora S' landscaping; strip. There is another type which grog to 3°. On-,northern perimeter mere?ds :nd safrddnL x<at f�rst�Y�ta�&ice 4 stall ,off, -entrsr way,,. :,Moat ,have,.something taUbt r.hsn r ra. Mr. Cowan pointed out there would be more landscaping when the adjacent property is developed. W agreed to donst-ping ' teller. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out that: entry,-rise off.of ftci flaa,. she was concerned, about areas iaote patking lots.;: Thser- is l' . mound and tree on: left. . She suggested taking, mounding:,up:;another foot. Mr. Foug pointed out this is a small site and dhould be kept; simple. H& said he .would discuss this with their landscape architect. Chairwoman Sallan asked if the Carob trees proposed on major frontage would break up stark wall appearance. Mr. Foug said the trees could ba, moved forward to do so. Member Rogers said she seconded the comment .on ivy. She: doas-,Aot hike ivy. There, are other ;plants that can; be used,!and:give:same of feet. Cupertino should. not have a saMeness .in;:appearance {,. as you, drive down, the street. I The use of.::ivy should 13+e; brgken.: , the use of other,plants of the-same--same type.; W,. ;Fo ug assked . hat- her.,objections ware to vy.. ?eutber Pagers said it. was :8ut�3ect-to having; :stuff accumulate underneath it, meets, snails,, etc. , Mr. Foug agreed to look into something else but 'repeated _they" wanted something to ,give uniform appearance. Member Rogers also felt the two Carob trees should be, moved to the right. w. There were no comments on the grading.. Grading Member Koenit$er asked for lighting; description: and locations, Lighting Mr. Foug said they were low profile lighting. There dill, be 3 lights and rest will be recesved under overhang of building,. The question of vandalism was discussed. Chairwoman Sallan, .askedd, how crucial the Vghts were at the entry way. Mr. Foug said, they' designated the major driveway entrance; a nice accent at the driveway. Member Rogers ascertained there would be no community use room. She felt the low lights would be attractive nuisances. Member Dressler noted the poles next door were 10 feet; he would not like these to be 10 feet tall. Mr. Tagg pointed out that during the winter lights were needed for employee safety. Member Rogers said Vallco Park has more k: trees and less street lighting. The Associate Planner showed { the lights approved for Taylor Wheeler and Foster developments. RC_108 MnWM 0P THE MAY 22, 1974 18 `L MmMUG Page 14, Security of employees in parking lots was diccussed. Member Kamitter ascen d?there; Voult abe::=7 ghft- ss The ar"lAcant,was asked:if-he {felt the- dtivew4V lights wamcnedessary. Ra said he ;woidd, like to have the~,to "delineate, the drivewaiy; .' Mr. Saftford- Wong of Security Pacific National Bank, said the 40fit lighting would be turned off by a time clock and the low .pi-of-lb lighting would be an asset and help rest of development in the future. The seven sofit lighta basically' shine. down. The 175 watt bulbs will light building but will not help the parking lots, Ur. Wong noted there would be night lights inside the building. Chairwoman Sallan felt .the lighting -portion of the applieatids, should be continued. Mr. Foug said they could give lighting curves on sofit lights. Member Dressler suggested making motion subject to approval of staff rather than continuing. Signing Mr. Raymond H. Clark, Los Angeilets, said they liked to hatrorbhiae building with local communities. Signing is very important to a commercial' business. In 1968 they- developed a `arpotate idait-tty, program and have a total concept in signing. `"The, two waTl s$gn;3 are free standing, individual 'letters of 'white -face with blab`ledges and are internally illuminated. . Letters are approximately 4" deep. The third sign which is,the prftcipsl sign is 4ja x 5 r7n mbuhtdii into architettural monument. Bottom will be raised 2" ftOW graae. Sign on front of building is IV' letters to Ift tify front ezitr`ancem sign on rear will identify rear entrance. Member emb r Koenitzer suggested continuing until variance on pole sign is considered. Mr. Clark said he was not clear why a variance was required. The Associate Planner explained'.' Mr. Clark adi.d they wanted to bring in a reasonable request, but they must have identity. Mr. Cowan said the staff would be happy to talk with him the next day. Member Koenitzer suggested eliminating sign F at Pacifica Drive entrance and changing size of'other directional signs to 10h" high x 18" wide with maximum height to top of sign being 41. Member Weinstein said he was not happy with major signs. He ,did not think three signs are necessary. One ground and one wall, or two wall signs are ample identity. He does not see how blue edge with white letters fits in with building. Since they are internally illuminated a border that matches roof might be better. i s til[RMS OF THE MAY 22, 1974 H-CDNTROL MEETING Pie 15 rs Mr. Clark said from illumination standpolpt,, thF:y have turned dir"A l 6igns because of eudi* g►` ctis g. X=a foa lli a` question inair'k. glue edging is not i9.luzidid (ig&Ai color would'be acceptable. Hn felt blue did ed3.i anco¢`and _< zo the building, but they would go to a more neutral bind aif-charcoal. Member Weinstein had Mr. Clark point out location of ground, sign. Uaft`would be covered part of the time by ttiees a e ti[ cAping. Chaiawomast Sallan said she was inclined to continue signing portion of application. The hearing was opened to comments from the audience. There we're none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Hearing Putilic Hearings. closed Mot ion ciarried' ` 5-0 Member K:oenitzer moved to recommend approval of RC;-S Ol7.14 to HC-51,027.14 the City Council with the standard conditions and the attached approved w,/ exkbits with the following special conditions-*. conditions (1) That 10' sidewalks be put around project an Pacifica Driv and Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. (2) That the driveway exiting the drive up windows and possibly the bank building be"moved' so there`-is th67 :required 25' between property+ line'and driwetaay.: (3) That the applicant landscape and prepare landscapIng plans for approval for the corner of land of Saratoga Sunnyvale Road adjacent to the property and surrounded by the driveway which exits to the north of the bank, portion of the development. That the landscaping on this piece be of a low nature not o•-er 3' high.' (4) That the 2 Carob trees on Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road be moved to the south so that they will be in front of the northern portion of the westerly side of the building. (5) That the juniper on the east portion of the property be changed to some shrub that grows approximately 4' high, either juniper or some other type. Approval of plant to be used is to be up to staff. Mr s^ 22 ]1934 B- a'ROI o HC-ltDB � ®P Tfdl+ a Page 16 (6) That the mounds 00 the Pacifica ftive rea"de to a height of 2 with the ply On the 'ghat: cb Atiiic t ,air ere _ ' ate#vex eB Y chat t 4 to so boadlaaf o� Ir t e rg Again to be legit up to staff to agprove select on,-o , applicant. (8j That the lighting be continued to.the next replar .�. tt that the applicant can prepare intensity curves sfiic� g sot pp lot. . C amount of lighting to be available in pang cern of the committee here is for possi�ltd safetp p ; employees in evening. (9) Two major signs on the building be continued and,6arAxWith the hearing on the -variance for the proposed ground s��. Is 10) That the directional signs such as "do not ender", ( and "motor banking" be decreased in size to iS wide x l0 " him and tk}at the top of the signs be no more than 4° above pavement at the location they are placed. The fica entrance with Security Pacific proposed sign at Paci National. Bank logo, and words a"motor,banking" be deleted. ( ) That the ivy in sloping section around €ront Of ' be changed to some other ground cover that will produce desired effect. f Seconded by Member Weinstein. Mr. Foug said it would help. if they had suggestionsuusaidethead } of lighting the ;committee.would like to see. Mr.. Go at}r traffic engineer could come up with standards o cc�tOfwfoothat candles. Mmber Weinstein pointed out his he did not want to see the light source.. AYES: Members Dressler, Koeuitzer, Roggel;s,.WeinsteJni,,�.Chairwoman Sallan NOES: Bone Motion carried, 5_0 REVIEW OF CHANGE OF COPY OF SIGN FACE: 6. Cal Coast Sign Company (Old West Steak House) requesting Old West Steak change of copy of a . existing sign located at, 10041 N. House Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. Continued from H-Cont.rol meeting of May 8, 1974. MINUTES OF THE MAY 22, 1974 M-CENML MEETING Page 17 Since the adeAttfitr `htit f 9Ea=°tie gea ;`MemiLf a € :' moved, seconded by Member Rogers, to continue to the next meeting Motion carried, 5-0 7. Microm&j �Ih6. Xterodia, Inc. copy,fft'd grdohd siguMfbic=hn ' nd4s tzidl'3s0i$�t n .s. .. located 10240"Aubb`166d'=iA`the W4di Valley: diWt*1 Park. Staff report: The Associate Planner piesoed plans' ainosg)the' %ommittee members, showing proposed change of copy. Mr. A. Craig Warp for Microma`ii,'lnc• steered Chaii�woa�sn 5�►1ti& that the sign would be stained rough re'hsood with white gouged let telrb"-. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, to approve change of copy. Motion carried, 5-0 UNFINISHED BUSINESS" ChaiYwoptan 'Sallan proposed a-Pldg4e for former H-Control Chair- i� Plaque for man McLaren It was so moved-,'by'•Meavb r Rogers, seconded by Ms. McLaren Member Dressler. Motion carried, 5-0 Time limit for H-Control meetings was discussed. Chairwoman Limited Sallan asked the committee to determine optimum time for cut- meetings off and how to handle applications that night be at thei cut-off time. Member Koenitzer wondered if meetings being cut-cff would entail additional meetings so they would not get behind. Member Weinstein, said he would prefer to deal with the Planned Develop- ment Use Permit Applications at 7:00 p.m. He suggested a rule that nothing new starts after. 11-:•30 p.m. He was not in favor of scheduling extra meetings., He was not in favo7 of Sign Ordinance hearings as part of regular meetings. What was not heard by 11:30 p.m. would be continued to next regular meeting and be heard first. It wars decided the Use Permit applications could r be heard in library conference room. Member Rogers moved t. _ a resolution that at 7:00 p.m. the commit Resolution tee would look at Planned Development Use Permit applications in the library conference room. At 7:30 p.m. the regular meeting would begin. No new business would be started after.11:30 p.m. t3TB5 N 22. 1914 8-C HiC-108 r . Page 18 not discussed in that time line would be contisaued and aWtbJL-9 d would appear at the to the neat regularly scheduled setiag an �,}}� be glU40&-= t#e_ageada. 09goa ed 5-0 - notion ca a� m It was noted that an additional standard H-Conwou�trOla" •condition diti n Lighting d out Intensity, should--be es;aiblis4ed• t be n lighting. 3nten&ity after i.nstalll�ariQs• Ar.s;awe;k . standard d_e, d{tioaas ,are. g$gi¢d,by CityWanll•, condition tbAt�staudaar'_ ` ' Chairwoman Sallan distributed a brochure received froasa Palo Alto. P.A. Review review boaXd;, Board brochure architecttad`= ce Chairwoman Sallan noted each member should have copies of PD PD ordinance lnen it Baas.>effeetiv%- 815 Ordinance f Policy State- Chairwoman T Sallan asked for policy statement for developeV*.tb4 sigAing is to be submitted with architecture. signs meet re NEW BUS INES None INFORMAL a OF PLANNED DEVS;.�DPL4ENT USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS: 8. 10-U-74 The Westfield Company: Constructionsf a :°` i0-U-74 ft. industrial building located 19,400 sq. The Westfield Prue tidga Ve-str.cortte:c of aptats an T Company Avenuee::- . Concern was expressed for traffic generatio►i on . •. Tantau and pruneridge and hazards of ingress and egress. should be increased wherever possible. ... Landscaping 9• 11-U-74 Adolph Firenzi: ApplicasLt not presant, $o would be heard later in v*etin$. . Construction cf a, mini-storage. facility 10. Keith Garner: quadrant of Keith Garner located in the southwest q vale Route280 freeway and Saratoga-SMAY Road, �;cnri if uk3aa v !L � e �� Tm winl' ' �7 a M M S OF THEE MAY 22, 1974 H-CONTROL MUTING RC-108` Page 19 12. Sol rato-Berg:,. buil4diage Sobrato-Berg totaling approsimteLy 118,000 sq. ft. located in the southwest quadrant of Aautp 200 Fre y and Saratoga-Su3nfy- _P �mle Road+., .f.y Since these two appl!cations wp;e, adjapept t 4t wao,decided to uar"ider theca jointly. ' Chairvapaw Sallan zaminded, the committee to die pp obJective as possible .in their commence so land use decision would not be influenced. Storage units a, b and c on nortn.-. •ly boundary of site are located too close to property line to have sufficient landscaping for ,signff*.cqvt.! screening.. One suggestion,was, to plant can;S.tAte- right-of-way to screen units. , Number of curb cuts. 11. May Investment Company: Applicant not present so May Invest- would be heard later in the meeting. ment Company 13. David E. Harr and Associates: construction of a David E. 29,000 ; ,. ft. bowling alley at the southeast Harper and coruft of Homestead and Stalling Roads. Associates . . Concern was expressed for heavy amount of parking stalls. .. 10' of, landscaping is not enough. :r Buildings might be placed to better advantage to break up large expanse of parking lot. The basic concern on the application was the site layout. " °.["I'll, . .. Increase landscaping along Stell.ing and Homestead Roads frontage; also on perizhaters if� layout remains the same. ?� At 1:00 a.m. Members Dressler and Weinstein left the tweeting. 9. 11-U-74 Adolph Firenzi: Construction of a 25,275 sq. 11-U-74 ft. furniture stare located southerly of and Adolph Firenz adjacent to Stevens Creek Boulevard immediately east of the Fisherman's Village Restaurant site. . . . No negative comments on site layout. . . . Adequate provision for landscaping. .. . Architecture needs re-evaluation, more imagination. z •�g�. q q�#F V + ��,�}tJ ��V a W Ol•' Z y i9 .� � x'x t .:31`> i :� 1.; 3 i+€.Gxi Fk Page 20 gg, Investment CoffiF Co: structioa of a 22 snit M.1y Investment _ i gle fg �' '' � F `tL' ent glade Company '` :ARtibB ' f ri`cy:z :3 itrr s :: fd' Pi sibil:t�s e g -reettwood Drive to Finch Avenue was os : ... Wider landscaping needed on westerly botittedary*.f, >. °�.'� i$udetionedrtseed`3ai:`a��►olt "° irCle _ . rtvaify andi4r€OtWEti" of red de�ita aa' fith: T" tc= schonl �., sbvtylc be coasideice higEe" -,� Nuuber of hits' ese iveo Fencing on Finch Avra ue side could be extended. At 1€37 a.m. yembei Koeniitier mo4dd, seedndeg; by member Rogers, to adioura to 7i00 p Vi`o ` AAJ OUgy,iENT Juice 5;%`197�a` in thy'library conference room. Motion `car.'ied, 5-0 jPPROY Vice it ATTEST: it Clerk r CITT OF CUPERTINO, S7kTEr'bP'6 LI)00' T .,.z ��'r,� 1�C-109 10300 Torre Avenue, f.cpertino, California 95014 I'€ e 1 Tel-phone: 252-4:505 bilM 2ES OF TIM REGULAR MERTISG OF Tilt Akp'CHIiFdfbiAl AND SITE APPROVAL COM,ITTLE+ HELD Otd. ,TUNE S, A.974 Lv LIBRARY CMFtRE:JCi: ROOM, CITY HALL CLTERTIhO, CA,LIFOIt IA The meriting was opened at 7:05 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan. ROLL CALL Meml.ers present: Dressler (7:12), Koenitzer, Ro$ers, Chairwoman Sallan klt�iz:bers absent: Weinstein � Staff present: Associate Planner Robert Cowan Senior Planning Technician Toby Kramer INFORMAL REVIEW OF DEVELOPMENT USE PEWIT APPLICATIONS: 3. 3-U-74 Vallco Fark, Ltd. : Construction of a headquarters ;-'J-14 building for American Micre.- 4alicc Oark ,'_` System-,, located at the south- � Amer- west "i-=-o west corner of lowallo.a DrivO Systems ead Homestead Road. Site: Layout: No comments Architecture: !2" to 18" should be added to parking para- pet for screening of automobiles Landscaping;: No continent The Associate Planner presented site plan for percolation pund. The � Ile,:cct_t.lcri flood Control District has purchased iive ncr,�s ar. McClellan Poad and Povo l,,ubb yead. 'they have asked the City for p rcllui.na^y comtrent for pl.cn., for utilities. One water and island wii.1 re visiblc from B11h ,'oad an,7 perhaps from McClellan. 7ne Flood Coil ro:, District has adopted the position of encouraging Joint: use Let"Weei: the. percolation pond and recreatioaal use • the City Hanrger has :.-oncerns about possible liability. AWh MWE�" HC-109 MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1974 H-00NTR0L 'MEETING Page 2 } } Chairwoman Sallan suggested going to the Parks and Recreation Committee t for their comments. Mr. Cowan said there was a time element Involved on the part of the Flood •Control District. General comments of the committee were preference for tall plants in,perimeter landscaping, complete screen- ing of chain link fence, landscaping on,island anA some caatei to be visible. Handholds on the sides were suggested as a safety measure. , undulating mounds around the perimeter was also suggested. Chairwoman Sallan noted it would be difficult to react until it was known whether it would have a joint use. i The Associate Planner then left the meeting to participate in a Planning Commission meeting being held. 't t APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of May 22, 1974 On page 10, paragraph 7, Member Koenitzer trished' the last sentence: to read as follows: "He referred to the sign at Clean Scene Car :dash as an exasrple of a wood frame." ti On page 11, paragraph 1, the second sentence should read, ".. .toward the street, and a concrete support copying, lines of pillars on build:- be used." Just below the motion to .close Public Hearings on this page, the following motion should be and-d: "Member Koenitzer then moved, seconded by Member Rogers, to contiiue Application HC-51,075.361 to the next meeting." 'Motion carried, 4-0-1, with Member Dressler abstaining. on page 4, paragraph 7, Chairwoman Sallan felt the 7th line should read, ".. .approved changing the words in the Ordinance. Member . . . ." I On page 5, paragraph 3, line 5 should be underlined through the word "Committee". On page 8, paragraph o, Chairwoman Sallan wished the following added to the last sentence: ". . ..which was esentially that it can act as a noise buffer to sozre extent." t Oa page 12, paragrape 8, the last line should read, "using evergreen trees 1 based on, adopted interim. guidelines, and. ..". Cyr page 18, paragrapn 4, the Ordinance number should be 618 Instead of 815. On page 19, item 13, the third continent ahould read, ".. .Buildings might be placed to better advantage to break up large expanse of parking lot." The basic concern on the application was the site layout. zr'k kt MYNUTF;S OF 'IIiR 3ifiVR 3, 1974 tt s MF s VaSe,3, Qn page 13, paragraph 4, Member Rogers wished to acid the following o� line 3 after the word "effe:ct"., "Cupertino should.not have ar,sawwaaa in ,appearance as you drive down the straet. The ,ease of, ivy should..,be F broken by .the use of other plants of the same t.ype.« There being iia further corrections, Member Koenit:aer moved to ,approve Minutes of the Minutes of aSay 1-2, 1974 as amended. Seconds' by Member Rogers, 5/22/74 approved as Mot-ior _ad, 4-0 amended POSTPONEMENTS: hone WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: A request for a temporary sign had been received. The Committee agreed to hear this under New Business. O^.AL C%WNICATIONo: None Chairwoman Sallan referred to Resolution No. 403 which recommended Resolution that informal review of Planned Development ;use permits be heard at No. 403 7:00 p,m.at the regularly scheduled meetin&+i and that no new business be initiated after 11:30 p.m. She read the Resolution to the Committee to make sure it was clearly understood and this was their intent. She questioned what would happen if the ieviews were not finished at the 7:30 p.m. time set for Public Hearings to begin. The Senior Planning Technician suggested the committee should give itself a* little flexibility. It was decided to discuss this further at the end of the Meeting. PUBLIC BEARINGS tt 1 1. Discussion of Sign Ordinance i Sign Ordinance The Senior Planning 'technician summarized Resolution No. 398 included in the packet. The City Attoniey had looked at it and the guidelines f and felt another way of worsting recommendation or change in section of Ordinance. under Commercial, Office and Industrial Signs was to leave the first part and on last part add a sub-section reading, "The Architectural and Site Approval Comn-Attec shall have the power to restrict the sign surface area for any application to 3% of the gross floor area, when in the opinion of the Architectural and Site Approval Committee, the maximum 3% figure wou13 not be in keeping with the purposes of this ordinance or when it would be inconsistent with sign guidelines which have been adopted by the committee," The City Attorniay felt guidelines should be USLi api adopted by the City. Ms. Kramer noted ;he did not know how this would be received by the Cou,icil. `i f NC_!09 MINUTES OF THE TUNE 5, 1174 t-COM. OL $ftt NG Page 4 7 Member Koenitzer said the intent was there but he wondered if `ft wduld not cause the saute reaction as -the other proposed revision. Member ` Dressler noted if the City Attorney supported it, it was wo%4* df consideration. Member Rogers felt it might be wise to adopt iltt'er m guidelines and appoint committee to study entire ordinance. Chair- woman Salllan felt it was strong and well said and site would support Ms. Kramer pointed out the intent to realise Section 5.111, Exhibit A, to include both wall and ground signs as being subject to modification when a change of copy was requested. Member Koenitzer felt more study i was needed in terms of abatement period. He would recommend going { with minimal change to existing ordinance that would do the basic job. Chairwoman Sallan then read the portion on non-conforming signs which said that ground signs and shopping center sigv-- existing at the date of enactment of the ordinance shrill be permitted to remain indefinitely. The intent was to omit the sentence which said the ground signs could remain forever. Further discussion was held with regard to abatement period. Mr. Xulkern of the Chamber of Commerce was present and he was asked to comment on whether he felt that having ground signs subject I to modification when the owner requested a change of copy was unreeson•- i ab le. Mr. Fronk r±ulkern, 20800 Homestead Road, Cupertino, said he recognized the problem they were having to lire with in determining the period of Lime. for existing ground signs, etc. The Chamber of Commerce was hop- ing to provide input for the committee. He realized there are some signs in town that should be changed. He then explained equity,` depreciation, investment credits, etc. as related to business signs. Two and five year abatement periods are not appropriate for a business,- man to recover loss. I 1 t:hairwoman Sa?lan explained thr:y were asking if he thought it was i unreasonable to say these ground signs would be dealt with as other signs. Mr. Mulkern said he would rather have his committee comment on this. Member Dressler noted that as aesthetics change around a business, the owner should want to bring his sign into conformance with the rest of the community. The Senior Planntng Technician pointed out this would give staff power and flexibility for controlling ground signs. Member Koenitzer felt this was a controversial point and he would rather push for minimum that could be gotten without controversy. Jr. Mulkern said the H-Control Committee was already prevailing its will on businesses in regard to sign sizes, even without ordinance change. He pointed out that In all fairness they should consid r new i businesses which would be competing with existing businesses. I MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1974' 84—C NTROL-11 Page ,5 Chairwoman Sallan s.aid if they changed this section of the, ordingnbej, they should provide a >policy statement to the effect that any. SUW thiit becomes non-conforming as- a result of this change, will not be- actively purused by the City to change its sign until a new Sign Ordinances has been adopted, but :that. they couid be asked to change their signs when they asked for some change in their signs. This is already on all eignsl i except ground signs. Member Rogers then moved for approval of .proposed modification of the Modification Sign Ordinance, Section 7.0210. Seconded by Member Dressler. , approved Motion carried, 4-0 Member Rogers moved for approval of the interim revision of Sign 7 Interim Ordinanc:, Section A, proposed for Section 5.111 and 5.112 with the Revision proposed guidelines as stated. Seconded by Member Dressler. 45.111 and !t 5.112 Motion carried, 4-0 " Chairwoman Sallan clarified the provision was that any sign that becomes non-conforming as a result of this action (approval of Section 5.111, Exhibit A), the only change that can occur on these signs will be those initiated by the applicant when it comer, to the City for change in sign structure or change of copy or any facet of signing for the .structure. the Proposed Guidelines for Signings, 2nd Draft, Bated June 5, 1974 were then considered item by item, with the following changes being made. . .Item 1 under Criteria for Evaluating Sign Area should have the words "or of the sign" inserted between "building" and "from". . .An Item 7 should be added to say "Readability of sign considering amount of copy, letter sizes, and specific viewing conditions". (Staff can elaborate so developers are clear on meaning.) ..Item 1 under Height of Ground Signs should hav6 the words "that will be allowed" deleted. . .Item 2 under Materials and Color, the words "during the day or" should be added between "glare" and "when". ..Under Item 3, the word "blaring" should be "glaring". . .An Item 4 should be added: "Samples of proposed materials and colors shall be brought before the committee. Representatives shall show materials and colors in naturel and illuminated states." t t a �u d7171 9- S - HC--109 MZDii?TES OF THE ;TUNE 5, 1974 U-C(b'.T- DL `WVJr Page b Guidelines Member Rogers moved for adoption of Proposed Guidelines.. :fdr Signing, 2nd for Si.gn.ing Draft, darted June 5, 1974 with the corrections an statp0:, These to be approved sent on to the City Council Seconded by Member Dressler. Motion carried, 4-0 Mr. Dfulkern said he felt the Chamber of Counnerce would fight this. Chainioman Sallan asked if it was clear these are interim guidelines and will not effect businesses already in. Mr. Mulkern, said there are things that need to be; commented on by experts. He asked if it would not have been better to get together with the business community. He noted not one businessman had spoken; the committee had said just what they wanted. He pointed out the Sign Ordinance is only 7 years old and although the committee has been considering changes .for many months, the business community had not been informed. They had not been asked for their input. Chairwoman Sallan reiterated these are not final; they are only guidelines. Zmplementatict for study of final Sign Ordinance was then discussed. Ms. Kramer answered Member Koenitzer that the amount of staff support would depend on the budget approved. Member Koenitzer asked the wCaf'f to write to other cities, asking for their ordinances and also what- ever information they had used to prepave their ordinances and to base their criteria on. it was agreed these would be informal study sessions with a member- ship composed of 3 H-Control merbars (2 alternates) , 2 businessman, 2 technical advisors and 2 repr^sentatives from the eo=unity-at large. 'mr. Mulkern referred to an ad hoc committee being appointed by the I.-faror. Chairwoman Sallan said this was for something, di.ffereait. At 9:10 p.m. a recess was takev, with the meeting reconvening at 9:16 p.m. Sig Ord. With regard to the previous discussion, Member Koenitzer moved to recommend to City Council the appoint!.=,.nnt of a Sign Ordinaac•e �:tr�,a:ittee Study Committee to consist of i-1hree H-C:ontrol members and two alternates, two representatives: of the ")usiness community, two technical advisors and two cl.tizeas-at-large. Seconded by :;ember Rogers. Motion carried, 4-0 i ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE MINUTES 8 of 12 01/03/1973 - 12/19/1974 3 r KUWTES OF ZHE JUNE S, 1974 H-CONTHOL MEETU4C 2. Application HC-51,334.1 of Mercury Savings requesting approval HC-51,334.' of landscaping modification fo°r a' bank fatlll F,JdcAred sb th- Mercury erly of atfd adj,acent tei Ske+vens Creek Boulevard appt tatily Savings 206 ft. westerly; of the= Intetteittion of East Hstatns`-`U 3 xand ; Stevens Creek Boulevard. Staff report: The Senior Planning Technician_ referred to a May G; 1974 approval by City Council requiring a 4' landscaping strip on the eaate boundary of the property adjacent to the Flood Control easement. The present application includes the 4' planter proposal and modifications to the entire landscaping plan. She pointed out a 10' landscaping" area adjacent to the sidewalk that will. have to be added. + Ms. Kramer noted Calabazas Creek has dense natural growth that will be removed whea the concrete channel is added, so something more substAn- tial should be added along the fence'. Mr. Mel Kapson, Mercury Savings representative, noted that what Is being proposed by the architect is a planting that'will cover` the- ifence ; on both sides with greenery. The trees will provide height. He noted all they can do is provid% greenery for east side of fence;--the,, o'ther side belongs to Flood Control District. Member Rogers questioner: whether the Evergreen: gear trees in fault s would cover the sign. iir. .Jerry Newsome, 141d Lexington Avenue San Ask .Jose, said they would not. Mr. Kapson pointed out that the signs i are visible from the sides rather than from the front, i Member Rogers ascertained the Star Jasmine would cover the fence, extending approximately 8" above it. The architect said he PP Y planned � a wal:. of green. 4 f Member Koenitzer suggested the photinia be spaced at 25' centers and an additional one be inclsded at south end of planting on east side. i Chairwoman Sallan said what was being proposed would cover the fence, j but since what was being taken out was so big and beautiful, larger growing shrubs and plantings at distances on centar that would provide f screen in both direci7ions should be coLisidered, i i Mr. Kapson said this would close off driveway and hz_ye to be chopped out so driveway .could be used. He said the ;jasmine will intertwine and ' cover both sides of the fence. Mr. .dewsome said another reason was the maintenance and longevity of plants. In a 4' area they will have to be ' chopped back and this will diminish the life of the plant. Member Dressler suggested increasing; jasmine to 5-gallon cans. Mr. Newsome said he would rather close spacings and keep the 1-gallon size. Chair- woman Sa lan thought they could plar.t larger ones on Stevens Creek Boulevard. HC-109 MINUTES OF THE JIItQE 5, 1974 N--WPIT fNG Page 8 Mr. Kapson pointed out, they. have,,over 20% of total area, italar�dscapia . if it doesn't Look nace.,,,they, ,w1XI put in bigger ones• s�mz:3X will. Mr. Sanford,Wong said 5-ga.liae,plunts:have been in, the ;cpVmai!!ar a longer time and will not grow like a young,plant Young-plants.,, OR closer spacing will do a better job. Mr. Newsome answered Member Dressler the plants would be,on 2' centers. ' Chairwoman Sall.an referred to treatment of small area on Stevens. , Creek Boulevard. She suggested putting plants on .mound-using higner growing plants. Member Kvenitzer said the east planting area should not have dwarf variety_plants. it was ascertained that traffic obstruction was not a concern. Chairwoman Sallan noted the building could handle higher growct,- especially on Stevens Creek Boulevard where a verdant appearance; is desirable. The desired height is 5' of 51 . The architect agreed this would be done. Member.Koenitzer noted the west side,needed some- thing taller also. The hearing was opened for comments from the audience..=; There ,were none. Public Member, Dressler,moved, seconded by Member Rogers to close F%blic , Hearing Hearings. closed ; Motion carried, 4-0 HC-51,334.1 ilember Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of Application HC-51,. approved 334.1 to the City Council with the standard conditions, the., w/condition attached exhibit and the following special conditions (1) That the photinia along east boundary be planted on 25' centers starting at south end of the planting area that leads to Stevens Creek Boulevard where the gravel starts. (2) That the Star Jasmine along east boundary be planted on 2' centers. (3) That mounding be prov dLed at the planters on Stevens Creek Boulevard at the east and west property lines. (4) That the plant variety in above planters be changed to sowr�thing with a growth height of 4' to 5 . a (5) That the landscaping be extended to the property line along Stevens Creek Boulevard. MINUTES QP THE 3UNE 5, 1974 H--CONTROL MEETING HC-109 Page 9 The traction was seconded by Member Rogers. It was clarified that the intent of the committee on easterly boundary 1 is to have the entire fence area become a,green .area. Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant was notified his application had been approved. Mr. Kapson said the committee had been very cooperative. He noted there were things the committee had asked for that were completely unaccept- able but the committee had been willing to mediate and arrive at something that was acceptable to the City and acceptable tcr-Mercury Savings so they could. operate their business as a business:,. 3. Application HC-51,075.361 of I.S.S. (Bern O'Connor). requesting !HC-51,075. approval of a sign plan for 3 ligac industrial buildings 361 located at 10435 and 10501 N. Tantau Avenue and 19050 ;"I.S.S. Pruneridge_Avenue. Continued from H-Control meeting of May 22, 1974. t Member Dressler abstained from the discussion.. { ® Staff report The Senior Planning Technician noted the application had been continued from previous meeting as the committee was interested in � having the signs tie in with the architecture of the buildings. A third building to the north, ou Tantau Avenue and Pruneridge Avenue for j which a sign is being requested. The applicant is proposing a sign .with redwood stained posts and frame across top and bottom for Building 1. Buildings 3 and 6 will utilize concrete columns which will support the sign and match the concrete exteriors of the buildings. Ms. Kramer pointed out there is a cortclete foot on just one side of sign. t Mr. Bern O'Connor, I.S.S., explained this would create better visibility, without having projection on outside. He exhibited plant plans. He noted there will be dual occupancy of Building 6. It was then brought to his attention that only one sign is permitted for each building. A discussion ensued. Mr. Dressler asked if Vallco Park had been contacted. Mr. O'Connor said Mr. Rose, owner, had been contacted and he concurred with this plat.. Member Koenitzer wondered if Mr. Rose fully realized Lbe problem of identifying both tenants on une site. Member Rogers asked how this had been handled in tl!e past. Ms. Kramer said they have never had this problem before on an industrial building. She suggested continuing this portion until staff could contact owner and explain. It was so agreed. w tic-109 �YIta ms OF THE jUN,7 5, page 10 'behind the sign compost om'pos tio�n of. Mr. Dressler Pointed out the reasoning i1on. xhey �rer6 'j6cchiong native concrete with buttresb Cad ° P t;se building aitd decreasing Tay Heipber'�gers, to close Public Member Koeni tzar moved,'seconeCed p�ilic Rearing hearings. closed 1tsstion carried, 3-0-1 abstain'` Dressier roval of Application t1C-51,015.361 Member Koenitzer recommended app Exhibit F 1st Eic-51,075. council with the standard conditions, condi-tions: 361 to the City F_2, with the following P Revision, F-1, approved shown on Exhibit F-2 be w/conditions (l) That the legs on the sign made symmetrical on each end• n for Builditt$ 6 be continued so the t2) That the stg roblem with applicant can discuss the multi-tenant P the building owner. Seconded-by 14ember Rogers: Motion carried, 3-A�1 Abstain: Dressler Iicatian for 'signing for Buildings The applicant was notified the ain for ouiiding 6 had been continued. roved. Signing Council at its 1 aad 3 had been apP lication would be heard by City Approved portion of app 3une 17, 1974 meeting. c Q27.141 of James W. Foug and Associates 5. Pppli.cation HG-�1, exception to t?C-51,QZ7 (Security Pacific National Ban.czOuedusignnin addition to ?!+1 the Sion Ordinance to allow a $round sign o-1 a lot less security two wall signs and to allowft.gof linear frontage located Paclf-Lc than two hundred ten (210) _�:ational I at the northeast corner of Pacifica Drive and Saratoga- aank Sunnyvale Rd. ' The Senior Planning ='echnlci-an noted there are two Staff report: tine for a ground sign and one is for a sign exception Information on i apPlications . ns and lig.1ting. i the other is for two wall signs signs on site for bank � d been requested was distrt.buted to the Comm• `- lighting t1a had members. Ms. Kramer pointed out directional e continued. had beer. approved. The wall sign :11 Jim Ili MINUTES OF THE JUNE •S, 1974 if-CWTROL MEETING r C•-109 Page 11 Its. Kramer noted 6-1- .necessity for applicant to fUe a sign, excepaon for the ground sig a %?3al "o€olds (1) Section 7.023 allows for only two signs per site. (2) Section 8„041 permits ground signs only for lots with 210 ft. of linear frontage. All the signs are in keeping with guidelines discussed by the Committee and the total sign area requested is not unreasonable. J t Member Koenitzer asked about Planning Commission condition to use permit regarding no ground signs. 'Is. Kramer referred to previous staff report which said zoning for the development included a stipula- tion that free standing signs shall not be allowed for individual developmer_t:� within this three acre project. Chairwoman Sallan asked the applicant if he was aware of the section of the Sign Ordinance which would allow an exception. He said he was. Mr. Ray Clark, Los Angeles, said he had contacted staff and obtained Sign Ordinance and had talked with Ms. Kramer about guidelines. They had tried to determine purpose and goal. of Ordinance and initiate these in their sign plan. He noted the guidelines are still changing. He believes their sign program is bet^er 'than what Ordinance would allow and pointad out the size is less than allowed by Ordinance. Chairwoman Sallan said it was the Ordinance that was restrictive; there ,.re two areas where they do not qualify under the Ordinance. The: third restriction is the condition of the use permit. She asked Mr. Clark to justify the exception. Mr. Clark said they must have their business identified adequately and fairly. He noted it was not fair to discriminate against bank in relationship to competing businesses. Mr. Clark showed slides of other Security Pacific National Bank buildings, illustrating their signs and logo. Other slides were shown o` freestanding signs at banks in the community. Mr. Clark noted that Northern California Bank and Wells Fargo Bank just up the street have two wall signs and a free standing sign. He noted signing is very important. He offered to modify build-ing to any degree, but if they can't identify_ they cannot succeed. Another slide showed Bank of. America had two wall signs and free stand- ing sign plus 9 directional signs; Vells Fargo has 8 directional signs. He noted what they are asking for is nothing more than what other banking institutions in the community have 1 f ;gV q 5.. �.£ IIC-109 MIBIl1°TES OF THE JUNE 5, 1974 R-CON ROL NEETrNc Page 12 i Mr. Clark pointed out they are asking for 104 sq. ft. as compared to 154 sq. ft. allowed by ordinance. 'He asked that they b'e `iret.ted F fairly in competing with other banks in the City'. it was noted the Bank of America directional signs should be removed. i Mr. Llark showed samples of sign materials. Chairwoman Sallan said the committee had to determine whether or not; i the evidence satisfied criteria for allowing exception. Member Rogers asked if the document from Planning Commission could be overrides. Ms. Kramer said this tras a condition of approval and i the committee could recommend tire granting of an exception. Member Koenitzer noted the Committee had granted exception to Bank of America for third sign. Chairwoman- Sallan then read reasons 9 for alle,ting an exception. Member Rogers said she was having trouble finding something that would justify exception but thought the presentation was very persuasive and the signing was aesthetically agreeable. I Member Koenitzer said he could not find any reason for allowing the exception. (; Member Dressler said the architecture of the building signified banking and the building is well exposed. lie did not see any = reason for putting in a ground sign. Chairwoman Sallar, agreed, noting there were no trees that would obliterate sign. She felt their identification was adequate. The Senior Planning Technician explained reasoning behind Planning Commission condition. Ihis was one large parcel divided into three 4 small ones and the City wanted to avoid having nary ground signs. A joint ground sign for all tenants was a poss-bility. i 1 The hearing was opened to c.oirments from tit: audience. f Mr. Mulkern noted this was really what the committee has been doing on signs in the City. The applicant is requesting less than is allowed. y lie pointed out the easterly sign is not %iLsibie: except front the east. with regard to an exception, this does impo,e a nardsh.ip since Wells Fargo and Northern California banks have the free standing signs. He �4, -r Y: . MINUTES OF TkE JM,9 5, A04 H-doOkbi kEgTljgd' ; HC-109 Page 13 pointed out this sign is what the committee has been a ifhg ,for. Mr. Martin Hall, 101.11 ParWood 't3?i:ve, CuperCirb,said 'es- farigs he', was concerned as a businessman, he was sure they must hive these-61gas. ` Every bank in Cup rtino has them. Every business needs the. . This is a magnificent s.Lgn. fie said he felt it fit in with #very requirement for an exception. It conforms with other signs in the City and other banks have more sign area than they are asking for. Member Bressler pointed out narclays and Sumitomo Banks which have much less Mr. James Foug said constraints should be used to control unplet. at � or unappealing signing. This sign is below constraints of Ordinance allowance for size and well within the sphere of constraints. They need the third sign to be seen by traffic coming down Highway 9. After further discussion, ;Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Public Hear Rogers, to close Public Hearing. ings closed Motion carried, 4--0 Member Koenitzer moved to recormnend denial of HC-51,027.141 to City i HC-51,027. ® Council. Seconded by Member Dressler. 1 141 den-Led except!oi. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Chairwoman Sallan DOES: Member Rogers Motion carried, 3-1 i Chairwoman Sallan noted the request for exception to Sign Ordinance had been denied. She asked the applicant if he wished the wall signs to be considered or continued in light of the denial. Mr. Clark noted this sign program was carefully studied by the best experts. He did � not feel it was appropriate to modify the signing arbitrarily as it 1 had been tonight. He indicated his intent to appeal to the City � Council. Chai nwoman Sallan explained the wall signs were completely separate from exception request. After discussion, it was agreed to consider the wall signs. ! 4. Application HC•-51,027.14 of James 14. Poug and Associates HC-5i ,027. (Security Pacific National Sank) requ(-sting approval of 14 lighting and signing for a bank facility located at the i'i Secu::,* r-,- northeast corner of Pacifica Drive and Saratoga-Sunnyvale I Paci.ric Road. Continued from H-Control meeting of May 22, 1974. j National i Bank i 1 r � HC-1.09 MINUTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1974,U-COXTOM MEETLNG . Wage 14 During a brief discussiori, the committee members agreed the wall signs were acceptable.. Public Hear- Member Rogers moved, seconded by Member Koeniltaer, to chose 8uOlic ing closed Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 C-51,027.14 Member Rogers moved for approval of sign (:artion of Application ..all signs HC-51,027.1.4 to the City Council subject to the standard conditions, and logo as presented on Exhibit F, labeled Sign.A, for two wall signs, and apl�ra:ed logo. Seconded by Member Dressler. Motion carried, 4-0 1 Lighting Staff report on lighting: Ms. Kramer noted Chat Exhibit E lst Revision showed the requested illumination pattern. The lights will be on 10' mounting with 175 watt bulbs in two locations along easterly line. There will be 7 recessed lights around the building. The two light standards are similar to those at Sandpiper Restaurant. She noted the driveway will be to offices in future and might need s:)v- lighting. Chairwoman Sallan noted her concern, and that of Member Weinstein, was that the lighting in sof fit not be too intense. Mr. Foug explained foot candles as shown on exhibit. tie said the light source would not be seen; it is recessed light with diffuser. Ii need be, the lights would be recessed further. In answer to Member Koenitzer, Mr. Foug pointed out lights over drive-up window. Mr. Sanford Wong said their policy as a bank is not to turn on any external lights because of energy crisis. Lights under canopy will only be on during the dusk hours. They are not intended to operate beyond 6:00 p.m. Ile noted they are 1/5 of what service stations have under their canopies. .Me,aher Koenilzer asked about different light standards, being, used on proue;:ty to the east, not:il_, t:,o parking lots would bE: COntl"UOUS. It Was discusscd whether they `. e _ed. to l .3e.. ---his standard for what would be proposed for north, or conform to what was being used to east. Ms. Kra:n=r painted out the standards are of similar height. Chairwoman Sallan suggested :if these :acre used, it s'.�ould be recommend- ed for lighting to the north. t y ' 7 a f zr MINIffES OF Tii!;,? JUNE 5, 1074 1f'COYTX0L'RtETI14V. HC-109 Page 15 Member Koenitaer moved to approve lighting portion of Applicatioa ' HC-51,027,14 HC-51*,021.14 to the City" Couhcll i th standard conditions, Exhibit lighting E 1st Revision and associated materials supplied with exhibit'. approved (1) Poles are to be. 10' in height with 175 watt bulbs. (2) Lighting intensity be sub;ect to review by the 'Coi�mitree after installation. Seconded by Member Dressler. i Motion carried, 4-0 j c 6. Application HC-51,331.3 of Martin L. Hall (May Investment HC-51,331. 3 Company) requesting approval of site, architecture, land- May scaping and grading for tvo duplex units located at the Investment south side of Rodrigues Avenue, 140 ft. west of Blaney Avenue. ` Company Staff report: This request is for approval of site, a—hitecture, { landscaping and grading for two duplex lots. The Seri : Pl-Anning Technician noted each was different architecturally but compatible ;with what exists. Both plans meet the required setbacks for duplex. Member Rogers ascertained that contray to plans one garage 10' and the other was 201. Ms. Kramer referred to concern of trees. Mr. Marty Hall said they are saving every tree that can be saved. He said they were saving 6 out of 11. There were no comments on site. Site With regard to architecture, Member Koenitzer felt it would add to Archit.ecturc the symmetry of the buildings if the plan of one were reversed, putting the garages on opposite ends. He 'explained how it would look better if the wide garage doors were reversed on one plan. Mr. Hall said this was a good point and he would present it to Mr. O'Keefe, the owner, for his consideration. Chairwoman Sallan suggested a provision uc made for a planter between Landscapin-. the garages on each duplex. Mr. Hall agreed to do this. It was ascertained the grading was satisfactory. Grading Member. ioenitzer :!coved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Public Hcar Hearings. ings closer; Motion carried, 4--0 PC-109 MIMJTES OF THE JUNE 5, 1974 H-ta0WML. MEXTING r • �:. Page 16 i BC-51,331.3` Member Dressler moved C acoMmend approval of A�P si,ca�3 IIC-51,331.3 approved to the City Council, subject to standard cr�nditi:nns, as p�iesented itx: Exhibits A, A-1, C, C-1, D and D-1 and to compnmeri, el a di plAcant on his presentation. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. Chairwoman Sallan wanted to include the special condition that planter would be added between the garages, but Member Dressler noted the applicant had agreed to this and he felt the condition unnecessary. Motion carried.,' 4-0 The applicant was notified of the approval of this application and that it would be heard before the City Council on June 17, 1974. Although it was now past the 11:30 p.m. time frames, the Senior Planning Technician noted Shell Oil wanted to put up temporary signs between now and the next meeting. The' comraittee agreed to extend meeting to cover two temporary signs being requested. NEW BUSINESS ':!ell Cil 8. Shell Oil Company requesting approvaa .of a temporary sign Co. - Temp, plan for existing service :stations in Cupertino. s i�ri approvr_ld The Senior Planning Technician displayed an exhibit of pro-motional sign=s being requested foc a 45-day period. There will be 7 signs on each Sbell service station throughout the City. Member Koenitzer inoved to approve teraporazy sign fer Shell service stations . Seconded by Member :Rogers. Motion carried, 4-0 Pcl.icy Member Rogers moved that temporary sig:13 be handled by staff unies>; 'Later;ent there is some unusual condition that in their opinion necessitates bringing it to H-Control.. Seconded by Member Dressler. Motion carried, 4-0 Clint. Round- A temporary sign in the Boule-,rird G_nt:er at i:ht• corner of �331-anay ='P - T Iry• Avenue and Ste=,ens Creek. Boulevard was being requested. Member z " Rogers abstained from discussion as she was ;raking presentation. approvc�i i+r � - ,y... -r; ,� �,'_a; �'" r:,•�� 47„ !ar.�'�"' �: f�irr�_p�N ' ' ,cxo: § �,{. x��.;e �`fir '4 �§.a-v 4,fa MINUTES OF THE JU?2E 5, 1974 W-CO TROL '.19ETING Pap 17 Mrs. Barbara Rogers, Cupertino Round-up representative, said they are moving to facilities in the rear of Boulevard Center, The building has concrete block wall around porch on which there are currently 3 slWis. :ember Koenitzer questioned having Department of Social Services, Cupertino Round-up and Ulest `alley I and R, thinking 3 rows of lettering trade the sign look too busy, Mrs. Rogers explained why each group needed to be identified on sign. It is a temporary sign for two months. Member Koenitzer troved to approve request for temporary sign as requested. Sign to be the same size as adjacent signs, and have } a white background with dark lettering. Seconded by 'Member Dressler. Motion carried, 3-0-1 Abstain: Rogers 7 Chairwoman Sallan referred to resolution on H-Control's new starting title. She asked members to think about hoar additional business would be hand3,�d that di•d not fall within time frame. She noted she was preparing a sz_�ro for staff on Old Business, but this would not get into the minutes for. Council's notice. ADJOURN?lM The meeting was adjourned at 11:54 p.m. until the next regular meeting on Tune 19, 1974 at 7:00 p.m. Motion carried, 4-0 AFFROVED: Vi e-C :airman „�! ATTEST: ty Cle CITY OF CUPERT INN, STA"E OF r L1,F0R4'I.A` Hv-111 1030,') Tor.xe Avenue., Cupertino, Califurnia 95014 _ Page 1 Telephone: 252-4505 MIIvUPTES OF THE REGULAR aiEETING 01-'':HE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL CW11 TEE tliiLD ON JULY 3, 1974 IN THE COUNCV. C23AWER, CITY HALL, CUPERTIINO, CALIfCRii1A SALUTE TO THE FLAG The mt!etirg was opened at 7:37 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan with the I Solvi_e to the :lag. ROLL CALL t 9 Members present: K.oenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan ! Members absent: Dressler, Weinstein Staff present: Ussociate Planner Robert Cowan i SEuior. Purring Technician Toby Kramer r I'?FCj-PJ-AL REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPIsEN';' USE PEPXI APPLICATION: • S 1R-d`-74 Public Storage, 1*r1-, : Construction of single- 3 sto-•t warehouse s; ructvres 19cated on the east side of Norcii B1aLay avenrje between Olivewood J and Freeway Route 28.9. . .. .If used for recreational veh cies, traffic control of the Public Works Deaarra;�_nt zlnoulj look at deve oprent tarefu iy to macc sure there is proper in and our moveL-y--nt of sicts. .. ..Site seems land2 anir_g-wise as well as ingress/vgg :e:;zi S for vehicles. 1 . . .If wall is extendec, provision shrntld be mace to landscar.a entire frontage". i t c i . . ..Traes on sita si hind red ain ane consideration should be vi vn'n I to additional lrPewj:i r, j tJ( . . . .South boundary: 15 ft. of landscap n, from curb to buildings. { Muni. have tery dzrse SCreeill`►g ut cause of grade. ..ami1ar i"y. t S F1C-11,1 1i3NUTES OF THE :3'JLY 39- 1974, N-CONTROL MEETING Page 2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of June 19, 1974 . pproval of i Moved by lklember Kocnitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to continue 0/19/74 i approval of Minutes of J►ite 19, 197$ to next regular meeting. 'Minutes Cont. Ln ?/17!74 Motion carried, 3-0 POSTPONCMENTS - None WRITTEN COMUNICATIONS - None ORAL COM,[UNICATIONS The Senior Planning Technician reported on two item= relative to tine City Council meeting of Monday night. One was the aprlicatiov of H-Control for modification to standard r conditions to make review of light intensity after installation a standard condition, 1ae Council determined H-Control should con- tinue using where appropriate as part of applicatiou, and get i involved in having experts determine standards to be set. s .he other was the Sign Review Committee. A nir_th member had been i added; Col►nc. Nellis. H--Control would pick their two represeztaeives, ti-e Chamber of. Coiamerce would pick tvo businessmen, and the City Council would pick the tecnnical znd lay persons. Chairwoman Sallan said she was not of the impression that t►.is was a Council appointed committee and she registered concern about tber.. chuosLng the personnel. H--Contro'+ should have more responsibility. �' .nber Rogers agreed. t t hair:•-omar: Sa i lan +,ranted the mir_utes to show ASAC appreciated their concern and welcomed Count. Nel.lis on the committee, but wondered wiry Council felt i r t;Lger_L that they appoint_ technical and lay people on rei-lew as oppnsed to ASAC doing it. t C11BLIC HEARINGS: I;G 5',2 33 1. :Application FIC-51723 .91 of Ad-Art, inc. (S & li Green Stan.- ti ti. Gca�rn = S`oce) requesting approval of a sign pia:Y for t'he S h H S! ore j Gr_,cr► ",Larnq Store ?ocBteo at the scut lwe.st corner of Home- steae Road arid Saratuga-Surnyvale Road in the Homestead Square Shopping Center. The Senior Planning Technician referred to sign reviewed for Fashion Fabrics, and discussion relative to the compatibility of the sign t1 j i r , c „I H MINUTES OF THE :ILLY 39 1974 tI-COFTROL ME'TIXG C--111 Page 3 with thr existing signs of Payless and PW. She exhibited the prc .oFed sign. The sign area requested is approximately 95 sq. ft. and allowable sign area is 306 sq. ft. She noted an overall sign � program has not been formally adopted by the Committee for center but applications have shown a tendency toward the individual white letters to be mounted against the the part of the roof on the fascia. Hember Rogers said she had just noticed the edges of the PW letters were red, and the edges of. Payless letters were- black. Member Koenitzer said he was under the impression this was set as future guidelines for tenants of center; white free standing letter . Tne Associate Planner read conditions for Fashion Fabrics. Slides were shown of the site and adjacent buildings. Member Koenitzer noted the tile being placed on S & H building was not the same shade as those of Payless and PW. The applicant should understand it should integrate with rest of development. Member Rogers asked if this was appropriate times tc mention-lack of landscaping in parking area. Chairwcman Sallan said they did ® require potted-.plants on perimeter of building. The. Associate planner said next time something develops in the center, the City c:•il.l look for overall upgrading. Mr. Jim McClay, Ad-Art Sign Company, 1716 54th Street, Emeryville, j answered Member Koenitzer that sign would be placed on second row of tiles as were Payless and PW. In answer to Member Rogers, Mr. McClay said Vie S & H signs were :Wade up in advance. These are their trade colors and whai they would like to use on their store. He displayed a sample letter. Chain-yoman Sallan thanked him for bringing sample. Sbe ascertained the letters would be illuminated. Mr. McClay said S & H has used white letters. Member Koenitzer said he thougilit they should be white free standing letters to match rest of signs in the snoppin- center srsd he would like to see them the size of present Letters. Itc felt the proposed were a little large for roof they '.gill be put oii. fir. McClay said the letter is 19 inches. Member Ko n.itzer said 20 inch white letter would give same readability. He suggested smaller S & H logo. Member Rogers noted it would be a hardship on other tenants for S & H to have colored letters when they were refused. ONo- . HC--Iii HIMI-fE8 OF THE JULY 3, 1974 R-CONTROL MEETING ' Page 4 Chairwoman Sallsan concurred, noting she would approve sign with condition that it be crhite free standin letters of smaller size and a smaller logo. After further discussion, thz applicant asked for a continuance to modify drawings. :Member Konnitzer summarized what was wanted: free standing letters to be white; letters to be 20 inches high; logo reduced to 4 ft. high by whatever width is appropriate; can retain color of logo. HC-51,230.91 ?Member Koenitzer moved to continue Application EC-51,230.91 to the continued to meeting of July 17, 1974. Seconded by Member Rogers. 7/17/74 Motion carried, 3-0 IC-51,337.1 2. Application HC-51,337.1 of Adobe Inn requesting approval of :adobe Inn a modification of site, architecture and landscaping for a restaurant facility located at 20128 Stevens Creek Boulevard. x S Die Senior Planning Technician noted the Adobe Inn was next door to the Customhouse- M! Stevens Creek Boulevard. The applicant is planning i to reinodcl patio area oecween ahe two buildings which comprise the bar s and restaurant. His -request is to rebuild the two walls that craclosc Tire vatio area and put wood slats across -the top. to shelter the patio. A barbeque area and tables will be placed in the patio for tn'� purposes s of serving cockta4-Is and food.. MF. Kramer pointed out a total of 26 parking spaces for the facility. The applicant_ is proposing to repave the parking area. i i in air condition :r is to be added; however, this will be, enciceed + within the walls of the patio. Slides were shown of existing building and patio area and alterations described. :1r. Frank Conley, 20123 Stevens Creek Boulevard, explained why work was startad without approval of. the City. lie noted they ar•-� replacing p,ese t_ fence with adoEe pillars and -redwood slats on both sides of c`a oar i o. ls'if'1.1 z•BpsYd to idnd.lfap7.!ag, Lhc'y are plc?1T'll.11g to pll`_ junipers and rhilod:erdroes to go Yi0i palm trees and adding more ivy to existing 20 ft. cr laridscap:!ci area adjaretat to drLveway on the Adobe :inn On wecL :.:.de o.f patio t:ould b,. a small pl.:inter area. r Y S MINUTES OF THE JULY 3, 1974 K-CO' MEETING HC--11I Page 5 M-•. Conley said after everything was complete they would resurface the entire panting lot and res€ripe. There would be between 29 and 31 parking spaces. In answer to Chairwoman Sallanehe pointed out where the extra spaces would be. Chairwoman Sallan said the major concern of this committee is the visual impact from Stevens Creek Boulevard. She noted the Adobe Inn has parking area in front and that the City is asking people to give 5 ft. of landscaping in front of buildings. Since there is no landscape plan, she would ask him to develop one addressing the frontage on Stevens Creek Boulevard in addition to plants on west exterior. She clarified that she was talking; about where the sidewalk abuts the parking lot for the 5 ft. of landscaping. She spoke to -the importance to residents of what the establishments look like, and p.,snted out it would also attract customers. She also pointed out -:.ey are going for greater widths of*landscaping from undeveloped parcels along Stevens Creek Boulevard, but this would make-his property consistent with adjacent sites. Member Koenitzer questioned the east side. Mr. Conley said the parking stalls are right up to the parking line. Member Koenitzer noted the east side of the building looks bare. Chairwoman. Sallan agreed, noting even if there were a 2 ft. play, at least a tree well could be put in. She -aske-d -the applicant tor get measurements g and see what was possible, addressing this also in their plans. Member Koenitzer suggested one or two short parking stalls. After discussion, it was decided to make it a condition of approval that a landscaping plan would be brought in. Mr. Copley asked for clarification. He said their application was for approval of reconstructing existing patio, :.econstructing of existing wall, to improve the exterior appearance of the easterly planted area. Now they are asking him to tear out blacktop and replace it with garden effect, cutting into their parking space. He would have to find out what parking spaces are available and if it is maneuverable for cars to pull in and out without backing up into a tree or shrubbery. Member Rogers explained it was the feeling of the committee that � they could approve site and architecture, but would like to have the applicant come back with what he feels: is a reasonable way of landscaping. They would like to make it a condition of approval that - a core back and talk with them within a certain time period. Mr. Conley agreed to this. r i3C-111 MINUTES OF THE JULY 3, 1974 H-WNTROL MEETING Page 6 The hear. ng wis opened to comments from the audience. There were none. Public Clear-,, Member :Koenitzer moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member 11:a cl')Sed Rogers Motion carried, 3-0 HC-5i,337.1 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of the site and architec- Site & Arch. ture of Application HC-51,337.1, subject to standard conditions and approved; Exhibit_ A, B and B-1,and -to continue landscaping portion until no and scapin9 � lat . than the first meeting in August so that applicant may invenri- c or,.tina d gate possibility of providing mor% landscaping areas in front and on eastern side and prepare new detailed landscaping plan for } western side of property. Seconded by Member Rogers. Motion carried, 3-0 The applicant was notified the approved portion would be heard by the City Council on July 16, 1974. 3. Application bC-51,333.3 of Steak and Ale Leasing Cerporation requesting approval of site, architecture, landscapiug, grad- i"ag, :ligh_iag, and signing, for a restaurant facility located at the southeast corner of Saratoga-Sunnyvale ;toad and j highway 280. ! The Assaciate Planner noted there were two plans on board, one for Sto.:dt and Ale restaurant and one for mini-storage faciliti,�s. Both ;+re .tied together by some t:anditions of approval attached to rezon- ing, tentative map ant: individual use permits. He went over the s tecommenc<ations that had been made and how the applicant had answered them in his proposal. ! With regard-to raised sidewalks to relate property to future buildings to the south and west, during Counnission hearing it was decided there i Was no need for integration for storage and more than likely two ccmmereial uses would be tied together_ The proposal was to include s i '••nporary type sidawalk adjacent to common drivew2y and adjacent to 1.5 ft. temporary easement situation on. this particular si.te. There + could be a permanent te-:Cured walkway in front of r.he restaurant. 1 With respect to landscaping, Mr. Coleman is still working for the City to devz_tor an ovorali. landscape- design for Sara toga-Suanyvale Road and parallal streets adjacent to it. He will be -appearing i before comn;ittee on tiut;l L 7. By then r;hould have some guidelines for rrscrs on i1ighway 9 to fallow. The staff recommendation is not to approve specific land.;;-aping plans on Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road tonight. MINUTES OF THE .ILLY 3, 19 44 H-CONTROL MEETING BC-111 Page 7 Mr. Cowan referred to two pine trees on the site which should be protected, fed and watered during installation of asphalt. The Staff was also suggesting some landscape screening at the north- west corner of Steak & Ale site which would help screen visual access to storage area. The applicant was propos.Lng a sign to project from gables over entrance. They are also asking for a rather large ground sign whi--h would need an exception because of lack of street frontage. This had been explained to the applicant. Also the combined area and proposed projecting sign is over allowable area. There was a condition of approval attached to both zoning and tenta*ive map that before individual free standing signs are approved, the City would like to see an overall sighing approach to the entire development. The ligi,Ling is old English motif, 10 ft. to 20 ft. in height depending on location. Member Koenitzer noted there presumably would be people working in the. industrial development. If the Steak & Ale was at all good, they T%ould be _mobbed every lunch hour. It secured silly to have � people driving cars through center. That was one reason he was interested not only in a temporary path but in a long range plan tieing this complex together. He felt this would be a concern when additional property on Highway 9 -has developed. Mr. Cowan explained the applicants felt people would go out the front and there would not be that zuch use for rear paths. He said he would pass Member Koenitzer's remarks on. In answer to Member Rogers, Mr. Cowan said the path from Valley Greg^ Drive running parallel to common driveway was a collectors sidewalk for individual users within the development. When developed, will be looking for more permanent type solution. This was discussed further. Chairwoman Sallau ascertained concrete is planned only for pedes- trian walkway; the parking lot would be blacktop. She also wanted to be sure Mir. Coleman was aware of the several feet difference in � grade between street and pad, so landscaping could be done accord- ingly. Chairwoman Sallan questioned condition 18 of Planning Commission, asking if deletion of four front parking spaces would be in the purvieFT of ASAC. This was affirmed. I* pr ttC:-111XnWES OIL THE JULY 3, 1974 H-CONTROL MEETING Cage R site Mr. Sherrod Marshall, architect for Steak & Ale, answered Member Koenitaer that space to left of front door was for handicapped parking and would be Aso striped and stenciled. Mr. :Marshall said in regard to deletJ.on of four spaces being discussed, the Steak 6 Ale needs upwards of 100 spaces but because of planning restrictions are down to 81; every space counts. rhain-)oma,, Sallan referred to inter-related development to south with par;:ing. Mr. Marshall exp.ained importance of parking to restaurant. In answer to Chairwoman Sallan, Mr. Cowan said under ordinance they needed 76 spaces. Mr. Marshall said this maser evolved on request they make on number of seats. The seating could vary between 230 and 250. They had given Planning Commission low number; with high number the spaces could be 100 needed. The Associate Planner noted condition 16 says facility can be limited `o 230 people. Chait7foman Sallan questioned northernmost portion of site. Mr. Aarshali explained this proposal was made before legal survey was done. If it cones out a strip, it will be planted. If it is of a-,etjuate size, it will be a car space. Staff, is aware of this. In :r to Chairwoman Saban. about the possibility of making a 3 wore peemanent type sidewalk, Mr. Marshall said the consensus z morg the developers was everyone is willing to .do sosreLhing, but i unti.l. it is known what will be going on south portion, they want to do it en a t^mporaty basis. With rr pect to the four parking spaces, Chairwoman Sallan said she considered it more important to have that area in green rather than ears. Svcs suggested putting more parking to the south temporarily. € Mr. Marshall said in a year's time, Cae building wil]. not even be visible. Anyth_i ng behind the 50. ft . setback would. be hidden. Mr. Dick Pacneco, oUrier of parcel to the south, said they would like to work out as much of an integrated parcel as possible. Three out of the four owners are new wochis, together on this. Intent in to keep cart off of southern property so dust will not be going into wind' ows of industrial, buildings and restaurant. Since they are not sure wl-a'_ dill i,e going in, be would urge and request the committee j -o consider the archite. - 's appeal. These four spaces are critical. are try n; tc leave as open as pos ibie to make it flexible in 1 ordcr Lo tie in. tie assured the commicr.ee dhe_y are moving as } gciickly as possible. He answered Chairwoman Sallan that piece to } ti:e west has been sold and this user may be acing the building at the same. tiro- she restaurant *sill be rising theirs . MINUTES OF THE JULY 3, 1974 R-CONTROL MV1711IG BC-111 Page 9 Member Koenitzer questioned the possibility of l a, Ong temporary pavement for parking. Just enough asphalt to las." a year or so. Mr. Jim LeDe'.t of Pacheco & Assocs. representing pith E. Garner, said the restaurant had started with 4.5,000 sq. It. which met the City staff•s needs for parking. After the general plan, there was 50 ft. setback for landscaping. This site has more than 272 coverage in landscaping. An additional easement of temporary paving would mean the cir.3t 15 ft, to the south for in and out movement. It would be a hardship on owner to remove four spaces Cli airwoman Sallan determined that essentially it would be possible to put temporary asphalt in. Chairwoman Sallan asked if they were saying they cannot provide parking on any other space on site at this point in time. Mr. Pacheco said one thing should be remembered. The Steak & Ale are purchasing that property . The industrial park has a separate owner. The south parcel will be completely separate also. When that is developed, they will have ample parking, and are just asking to say that when parking spaces are not needed, they will be done in landscaping. Meriber Koenitzer noted the rendering was a little different from, Architect,:re preliminary review. He suggested having property to the south use same type of construction. 114r. Marshall said the modification was putting entrance on side as requested. fie described the architecture and construction of building. The roof .will be dark wood shake. Chairwoman Sallan had mentioned the grading was several feet Grading higher. Mr. Marshall said he would go over this with staff and the grading engineer. Mr: Marshall said the sane landscape architect would be doing Lands capir.g entire project. Chairwoman Sallan ascertained they were aware of condition regard- ing preservation of on-site trees. `leriber Rogers noted there were several plants she could nut locate. They were listed but not shown. Mr, Marshall said this would he cleared with staff. Chairwoman Sallan ascertained only ground cover was planned for portion of building facing freeway. Mr. Marshall noted only fence around trash enclosure would be seen. Chairwoman Sallan suggested a tree be put by the fence. Mr. Marshall said they had to have room for trucks to make deliveries and pick up dumpsters. " x •,nA, . e pf..x. Xr n, a6 fi r a. it e7 4.,. -dam; M'' e ^'", li. y y H:C-111. HINU'.l ES OF MIE DULY 39, 1974 H-CONTROL !!MEETING ?ago 10 Hember Ko-enitzer noted there w.as a good balance between evergreen, a" deciduotts trees. Lighting Member Koenit,.zer said he felt the fixtures fit in with the architecture. The duveloome t: to Cite ; scutli should use flame approach to light-lag ana architecture since it is a Planned Development: Industrial doesn't share frontage and cr•iented so that are separate developments and are not contiguously visual. A discussion ensued by ;-fiat was meant by same style of architecture. It was agreed it shoul be aesthetically compatible. Chairwoman Sallan noted cl,is light fixture will be precedent setting. The architect shcu.ld expezt to design something that can fit in with this and ghat develops to the south. Member Koenitzer said part of purpose of Planned Development is t:a make look-a-like project and insist on guidelines for major portion of the sitE. Mr. Arnold Fltickiger said he will possibly be involved with portion to the south. He would think a little Iac-itude with 'lighting would } be desired. 1he building would have to '.)e different to serve its express purpose and fraction. Would be same basic principles but i would vary a little, Would be compatible but not the same ideaticai 1 fixture. Member 1(oenitzer said lie would think One sams fi xttire' shoulA be used. member Kogers'said it Should be the same to all intents and �;trposes. Chairwoman Sallan said whatever develops to the south will be using ( the same j.l6ht. When they approve lighting fixture toy this property, t wii.l or setting precedent fot'south portion. They need to decide if i this i,_whhat they Grant to prcpcs�2. Mr. LeDelt asked what_ happens if the manufacturer discontinues this lamp. Chainioman Sallan reiterated that l_ght fixture being proposed should be that proposed for south property. A lengthy discussion ensued. �:i:sir cc•r,;Y Sallan asked for ciarificction of where light-ling fixtures, woulri 6e praced on sita. The Senior planning Technician pointed therm out on site plan. Relative to Heights, Mr. Narsha!1 said in order to get decision he would make declar,tive sl'.atemear- that to Set ad-qu<�te lighting all parking lot will need 20 it. standards or whatever the committee wants him to say. After further discussion, he said 20 ft. was the minimum height that would be adequate. a fi . • MINUTES OF THE JULY 3 1974 H-CONTROL'MEETING ` < t HC-111 'age 11 Chairwoman Sallan said she could see three problems relative to the lighting: (1) integration to the mouth parcel, (2) Aisr din of lights proposed for the parking iot, and (3) heghts of structures. Relative to signing, Chairwoman Sallan noted the applicant is Signing proposing a wall sign and requesting a free :standing sign, which would require an exception. She was reluctant to discuss since exception had not applied for. Mr. Leneit said ti:e're has been dialogue on sign. The mini-atorage and industrial area wanted to get input from ASAC on sign so they will be able to function in direction they would like them to go. If something is objectionable in Steak 6 Ale signing, he asked them to discuss it and give them input. Chairwoman Sallan ascertained the wall sign is 2-1/2 ft. wide x 4 ft. in height and will be able entryway to restaurant. She asked if the applicant had considered moving it around to the Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road side. Mr. Marshall said with all the landscaping and height it would be, there would be no way of seeing it. It is oriented to patrons walking from parking lot. After further discussion, Mr. Marshall asked for alternatives. Member Y.oeni.tzer paid one would be a joint sign with tenant to the south. Chairwoman Sallan suggested tie refer, to sign guidelinesi` and work out signs within those constraints. I Member Rogers noted the sign over tntrr",4y is quite satisfactory and! well designed. The free standing sign :.s too large and she has seen no reason for granting an exception for one so large. Mr. Marshall said he would rather have free standing sign in front than apply sign to the building. After still further discussion, the hearing was opened for commentsf from the audience. The were none. Member Y.oenitzer moved, seconder, by Member Rogers, to close'Public Pudic Nea-- Hearing. , ing closed. Motion carried, 3-0 IsC-111 MINUTES OF THE 3ULY 3, 1974 H CONTJWu Y+IggTnr, . Page 12 Member Koenitcer caved to recommend approval to City Council of application HC-SR,333.3 for site.. architectire,gra4ing and landscap- ing and that llghtin& and,signing be cautl.uued:. � dpplication to con- form to standard conditions, Resolution PIo. 17.62 of Planning Ccmmissien and apptopriete exhibits, with the follouring special conditions: (.1) When the project to the south is developed, the four packing spaces fronting toward Saratoga.-Sunnyvale Road will be deleted and additional landscaping installed. (2) That a permanent pedestrian walkway access to the project ' will be installed, again when the project to the south develops. The location to be determined at. that time. (3) That we are seriously concerned that three existing trees that are to be retained receive proper: care and conside' ra- tion particularly during grading and construction of proj9trt. We definitely want these trees to survive the constructiop period. That a plan he prepared by a licensed landscape architect or landscape planter delineating how these trees will be .protected and preserved during construction. period. Seconded by Member Rogers i! F Nerabel' Rogers then proposed an amendment to read: All plants shoran on list will be shown on pl=rn. Seconded by Member Koe_ri.tzer. ' VOTE 0,11 AMENDMENT: s f AYES: Members Kuenitzer, Rogers and Chains?oman Sallan j j NAYS: 'None :lotion carried, 3-0 Voler ON Nol LON: S ;i.333.3 # A' ES: Members Koeni.tzer, Rogers a..c CF.ai tar, ::f,i Sallan J t:'`iis :Motion carried, 3-0 on Ci:air:o:n-,an Sallan ancio+irced application had been approved with the y e::ceptzon of lighting and signing. Approved portions would be heard by th,! City Council on July lb, 1.974. 1 • MINUTES OF 1'HL JULY 3, 1974 H-CONTROL MEETING Hc-il.l Page 13 Chairwonar Sallaa announced the policy of the H-Contrul Casmmit;tee that no application hearing would be started after 11:30 p.m. At 10:20 p.m. a recess was callad, with the meeting reconvening at Recess 10.30 p.m. Member Koenitzer moved a Minute Order be sent to Planning Commission HINVTc ORDER and City Council to add to file on HC-51,333.3 that since this is a ]Planned Development, ASAC would expect architecture to the south to be similar in style and material to the Steak & Ale development. Seconded by Member Rogers. Motion carried, 3-0 4. Application HC-51,333.1 of Keith E. Garner requesting HC-51,333.'- appro•:al of site, architecture, landscaping, grading Keith E. and lighting for a mini-storage facility located in the Garner southwest quadrant of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road and Freeway Route 280. The Associate Planner slid this is essenti212.7 the. sane plan looked at by ASAC during pre-hearing review. He spoke to Condit;.an that might be added in the event the Highway Department did not give permission for landscaping on the 280 right-of-way. :fir. Cowan described the architeettire, using colored rendering. Interior portion of site will not be seen by public except for section betwean the warehouses and edge of the common driveway. It was suggested an option of continuing wall or heavily landscap- ing the area. It was noted somebody should be responsible for repairing wood fence. Mr. Cowan spoke to parapet wall on south and north line approxi- mately 21< ft. above roof element. They would like to see this wall continued around building elemeut. Mr. Arnold Fluckiee; answered staff°s concert. He said the only place where interior would be visible would be fron 200 {t. going in opposite dire:tion. There are two chain link fences, 40 ft. and sloping bank. They will plant more trees if this wanted. rat' y.. HC-ill MJL WMS 4F THE JULY 3, 1974 11-COYr=L Mom' rag 4 As to area on ether end, there is a row of trees 47 ft. on center and another row of tress 24 ft. on center. Would be better to let. ivy grow up fence than build a wall. The proper place for sc.reani.ng Is on State right-of-away. Mr. Fluckiger said they had had phone con4. `irma- tion on this and are just waiting for written confirmation. The slumpstone building is not unattractive. The chain link fences are whet should be covered. Considering distance and trees, they did not think it necessary to turn ends of masonry. "ite Chairwoman Sallar asked if he stood and agreed to condition that if the problem with Highway Department with regard to planting on the right- of-way could not be resolved, he would have to come back and determine on site landscaping. Mr. Cowan pointed out no permit would be issued until this has been satisfactorily resolved. Mr. Fluckiger said the dthings that are objectionable are not even on their site. They are trying to cooperate with the City. But the trees on their property swill not take care of objections to chain link fences, canal and E tower. Architec;+ure Membfir Koenitzer said he didn't see how he could approve architecture without knowing where sign mill go. Mr. Fluckiger said they had tried to get coordination of signs with other people involved. .hey would like a free standing sign that would have information on all four parcels and one small s_tgn at entry point at and of drive. He pointed out where the sins could go. llx. associate Planner referred to condition on t3ntative map. Str:if. would recoiunarid Mr. Iluckiger.'s suggestion. It will. require a variance application but from staff's point cf view is a good salitioa. f Member Koenitr_er said he would grant It conditioned that signs will. not be permitted on building or ask the applicant to continue architectural portion until sign prograr. brought in. Chairwoman Salian ascertained that any sign approved At this time ' cots id be construed as temporary unt s l master sign program for . center is adopted. Mr. Fluckiger agreed to this. c 1' .e Senior niarMing Technician pointed out „here a slight change iri color of b:,ildin to buff rather than stark white would tie in i f',ettr.r with Steak & Ale building. `1'h:a C'OIIjT_7_':tc ag:-eFci. Land3 apirtg Chainaowan Sallan noted 114r. Fluckiger had �ztat'ed his position on walls at two :.nds of property. Mc!Pibar k.oenitzer said he didn't kncw that they would be improvi--Z a^ythiag to put up masonry walls. Chairwoman 5allan agrE•z:d a,>aut :aal.i_:;, ��ut fe_. -.. v=:ctra landscaping could be in this aren. t3_clbar ::o::ni.t:tr aggested 3 :,hrubs between each tree; sowethin i 0:a, would grow to 6 ft. llii6 ,:c be done. :at both ends. MINUTES OF THE JULY 3, 1974 H-CON- COL MEETING HG-111 Page 15 Mr. Fluckiger said they would rebuild fence and put another fence inside. The lighting was noted to be on the wall pointing down so there Lighting would be no problem of intrusion. The grading was ascertained to be satisfactory. Grading The hearing was opened to comments from the public. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Rogers, to close Public Public Heatrings. i0g. closed Notion carried, 3-0 Member Rogers moved to recommend approval of Application HC-51,333.1 with the standard conditions and the following special conditions: (1) That approval is predicated on Federal and State approval of landscaping on Highway right-of-way and in the event the Department of Transportation does not approve the landscaping on the Freeway right-of-way the applicant shall agree to return to the Architectural and Site Approval Conm2ittee for the purposes of inserting additional$ landscaping along the northern property line by removing some of the bays, the number of which will be determined by the ASAC. (2) That a landscaping screen be used along the northern property line on the eastern and western edges of the end of the mini-storage warehouses to screen the view of the warehouses from the Freeway. (3) That the slump stone wall be continued Ground the ends of k the building, to provide a finished look to the exposed ends of the warehouses. (4) That the fence on the west side be. repaired or Failing that, a new fence inside be built by applicant. (5) That. signing be coordinat:-:d with otter users of Planned � Development and until that Lime, temporary signing be put i-1. ® (6) That the walls be buff cold.-cd so as to coordinate better with Steak & Ale. s A W-111 KINUTTES OF THE JULY 3, 197A elk --CONTROL NEET- 16 Seccnded by Member Koanitzer. HC-51 ,3:i3.:1. AYES: Members Koeni.tzer, Rogers, Chai.rtroman Sallan approved wl NAYS: None c--nditlens Motion carried, 3-0 Chairwoman Sallan announced the application i;3d been approved with modifications and would be heard by the City Council on July 16, 1974. 2iC-51,283.4 S. Application HC-51,283.4 of Stoneson Development Corpor,atio:a S*oneson (The Oaks Shopping Center) requesting approval of modifica- i;,�,,eLopment tion of mite, architecture and landscaping for a proposed Corporation theater facility located at the northwest carnet of Matt' Avenue and Stevens Creek Bov evard. The Asaociare Planner said the request for modification involved. two areas: one was the site, particularly the !Landscaping width along Mary Avenue, and the other involved the architecture of the j theater. Mr. Cowan requested the applicant and committee wees;;oers to come t:p board. where he explained changes being requesters. Site Mr. David Heldc, 730 Montgomery Street, Sai Francisco, said with + regard Le) width of planting on Mary Avenue, the rrri inal Epplication was for 9 to 10-it. width. The use pertlit app,oved plan for 7 to 8- ft. strip, The frontage or. Stevens Creek &-)ule:erd was shoun to be 12-ft. of landscaping with 5 ft. of walk. This will be retained. However, on the final grading plsn, due to re--eai Lnee,:- of the nits, the :Sary Avenue frontage can only be 6 ft. if the requested building pad, parking areas and frontage landscaping are retained. The screening was what was discussed. In final dratrings, the shrubs are photinia and are solid. He felt this final design does sa,ti.sfy intenc of the ASAC. They would mound vp or, this r ,cclp as much as po:,sible. { Llre Associate explained staff's posit'::r•.. vuriag the ftaa-t s3e permit Iif_',1'"-a&, Mr'. Pa3 ;g: 1,,3s asked � i L}:, re coin `iE i nound.iny, anJ he said ycG. 114r. Cowan used sleet:^zes to illustrate i difforen;:r bete:eet, 6 ft anL! ft . Ln toirn of .avnding iad f landscaping. MII+WUS OF THE JULY 3, 1974 a-CONTROL HEETINV a AU Paige 17 Y i Hember Koenitzer said with regard to architecture he dida't feel the building has much class to start with and taking off the trellis cores it look more like a box than ever. Mr. Art Schumacher, architect, referred to previous discussions on height and design of building. The structural engineer had said they could lower height of building by use of other material. It was noted the height had been lowered to 27 ft. Member Rogers said she did not feel any improvement had been made in architecture or aesthetics by modification. Chairwoman Sallan said she liked the earlier treatment, and would not be comfortable granting S modification to something less attractive. Chairwoman Sallan said she would like to call attention to some- Landscaping thing on the I2ge*d. On Stevens Creek.Boulevard, item E, have proposed rapheolepis from edge of new landscaped area;moving east toward the Sandpiper Restaurant. The legend calls for D which is photinia. This was discussed. Mr. Heldt felt the intent of the rapheolepis was to have lower shrub an both sides of sign, but Chafrwoman Sallan noted it should have been photinia from westerly side of sign. Ms-. Heldt said the sign was to be seen from traffic going east and west. A loss level sign with shrubs hiding it would defeat its purpose. Chairwoman Sallan said they were not speaking to signs, but to the screening of cars. Chairwoman Sallan noted if they wanted to deviate from landscaping, plan, they would have to resubmit, in which case it should be continued, or they would have to abide by locations as shown on approved plan. Mr. Schumacher asked for clarification. He said they could put the trellis back on but to raise building does present problems. ,Vter_ further discussion, the committee came to the consensus they preferred the wood siding. Member Koenitzer said he would like tz see the trellis put back. Chairwoman Sallan noted there had been enough suggestions generated that the applicant should have the opportunity to bring in another proposal. She would be willing to have the building at 29 ft. in order to have more attractive design. :sir. Heldt pointed out mitigating factors of landscaping. E 8C-611 MYPMES OF Ta JULY 3, 1974 B-CMMOL MaTIN Fags. } The hearing was open ad for counts fTOM the public. These were adhe. Public Boa Moved by Member Rogers, seconded by Member RoMitzer, to 'elose Public in S closed Ylotion carried, 3-0, _ XeVber Rogers VWMd to recommdn& approval.of Application vjr-51,283.4, encloe�ares'�eso1'uticn 349, EXbihit C, 2nd Rev. and A,. 1st ,Rev. W submitted for the site and landscaping with standard coadipioms and the following species 0=d1-'t10ns: (1) That it, the lan&caping the photinia replace rapheol.epis around sign end_rapheolepis be only where approved easterly of pro;+erty sign toward sign of Sandpiper Restaurant. (2) To continue the architecture portion of application. Seconded by 44enber Koenitzer. HC-51,283.4 AYES: Members ftenitzer,pfters, ChairwOmsa 8allan Site modif KAYS: bane approved Motion carried, 3-0, Arch. modif continued tioa was Chairwoman S611M notifited the an the site r� tpcturai approved and will go to City Council on July. cbt portion has,been continued. cut-ol:f period. : _ decal Since it was tRW Pact nos. to hear . any more applications. Procedures for hearing applications•here discussed. i 6. Application HC-51,224.2 of Harold J. Sakke (F'oathill ?riati requesting approval. of modification of ar6i tecture for an addition to an existing building 1` ^ated at 10950 North Blaney Avenue. Contiuued-to July L7, 1974 meeting REVIEW OF CHANGE OF COPY OF SIGN FACE 7. Dr. Kenneth E. Johnson (Ad-Art, Inc) reduesting change of copy of an existing sign located at 20311 Stevens Cheek Boulevard. ' Continued to July 17, 1974 meeting. t y1q ,4, `' ,i.:. ,,.,„j, ;Y txrx-.. .,syx .h� if'i •m„s,' .�' i w,,� C #; '* a y`' 1 'r3.1, L. IV RITIMMMMI age r +sign of t1C-61,027.141 securitY R Pay: �3c 17 1.97 r;.eetittg ,;tti tt�• a ti�o Tu1�* i ZuY�rcc1_y reuesti'. rud ficr, t�Yly}:1.Cr.t:0i1 HC,,-51,002.j of T. �Ut �F7, La ti on Of land::rar,,rg t ocated at Tract 2769, Ceara Sabdi'llision, alpine Oxivc. continued to July 17, 1.974 Lieetiag ItiL;i BirST�;ESS +- n facility for the De Azlza O+ f-straet 10. Revie:;a of Pa"<.�nb • Pal:icing end Traffic facilities Assessment District. di-splayed e::;�ihits, but because ?f lateness The t ssac,, are Planner di-sp a Could gig e it nxoper stud_► of irou file co3xrrj!Ltee did not feel they and considerration. D t v ad rnlr:}.4d :o regular ticeiing L �, s urani3:.ousi, J At 1.t-:�fL� i,.ic l;i�c:rli.cy yT:l 17 1S74 at i.310 F M. r 3u�y a ® PROVE= AP 1 C, Nane al -an, ha ixw Oman ATTEST 1 tirm. E. t: er, City Clerk ! 1 f t N Mij ^i.3fERTIN.0, 51`r'X-11 OIL 'CAI:IFOE I A, iIC-lIl 10 00 Tcrte Avenue, C,upertino, California SU Page I Telcphr. , : 252.-4505 .NVIrTES OF 71Vr REGULAR 7*03TIMG Y TBE ?ui`.01TE47.TURAL AND 9-M APPROVAL C%A'Dv41'l:-E HELD ON JULY 17. :914 COUNCIL (-'yUVM1K&S: CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTL•• TO 114:.' ;FLAG Th:: r;joeting was opened at 7:00 r.ir. by Cha::z.o:naa Sallan wit;: the, 5a1.a:te to the Flag. TOLL CALL M .T ers preE,ent: Dressler, Koertitzer, kigcir , Ll?airwoi4an Sail.rira Members absent: Weinstein Staff Fresei. Senior Planning T-scizr'tician Kramer � 1 i<I,V_ 1%1 OF PLANNED DEVE:.o!_,..P.T USE. FSlr-,..IT f,P._.LiCA'tIU:l. All ce Sie grist (J. -?iorel:an) . 1'o allow fo: xpac.j i!;n s or t !e ex .sting shopping center, ii7ip rove-rent of. par'ri.ng .ind p]aat�.ng areas, and the remodaling of exterior arch4 c.tv.ra S style. Seid property is located at 10215 South Saratoga- Sunayva e. Road. Committee recorrnendatiors: . ..Reduce end sofit support F . . .Remove wall-, at er:d of bui.ldir:a and rt_,plate with ps.ant:pg . ..Put mon,.6ing on Sara toga-SL..nyvale Road i Valley Grr:cn ua.:iness Fart,. Committee reco,zalendations: . ..Move Bldg. 3 back and haJc. ::ida stria of lanei�caping . . .Craate a driveway so Bldg. 3 s;,4 ?1 entry Lo other two parking lots .. .Architecture of Bldg. 3 should m.toti e_:.ictly Bldge. 1 sr:d 2 HC-112 MINUTES of THE JULY 17, 1974 H-CONTROL. MEETING Page 3 APPROVAL OF 4+filUUs'ES: Minutes of June 19, 1974 Minutes of Moved by Member Rogers, seconded by bLefther Dressler, to accept'Mftutes 6/i9/74 of June 19, 1974 as submitted. approved as Motion carried, 3-0-1 submitted Abstain: Koenitzer POSTPONE:, 1TS - None WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None No item will be initiated after 11:30 p.m. announced by chairwoman Sallan. UNFINISHED BUSINESS: 7_ Discussion of Sign Ordinance The Senior Planning Technician noted the Planning Commission had expressed ccncern about suggestions and guidelines submitted by H-Control Committee. They felt there was not enough flexibility, and would like to see some modification in changing numbers of wording. She referred to memo from staff dated July 15, 1974. The Planning Commission felt existing signs that were non--conforming should be given some leniency. It evolved that the Planning Commission was not aware a modification had been added that ASAC would not be initiating any sign changes to make them conforming. After discussion, it was agreed that items 1 and 2 on July 15, 1974 memo would be acceptable. With regard to item 3, a preface r fac statement would be made. The ASAC was interested in seeing e lie same, the but would be amenable to wording change. that would give app feeling of flexibility around the numbers. Ms. Kramer said she had submitted names for technical advisors to the City Council; the ?Mayer will select technical and business representatives. the ose She qualifications sallanlnotednshefhopedmth ahselectionshad wouldebe submit as objective as possible. WPM y MINUTES OF THE JUIX 17, 1974 H-C OLD l T31TG HC-21a Page 3 Chairwoman Haller artnoccci ed! Kw_.1j Var would, be the ASAC reprasentAtiv'es With- 140&exs Rogers and Waitiatei-V.botag alternates. 2. Application HC-51,224.2`ef Harold J. Ripicke .,(Poothill ` HC-51,224.2 Printing) requesting ap�prcmal of modification of archi-• Foothill tecture for an addition to an existing building located Printing at 10950 Blitrtey- Avenue. - Continued from the July;3, 19,74 H-Control meeting. The Senior Planning Techtrician-pointed out property located-next to PG&E substation on Blaney,Avenue.' It is an inconspicuous building. An exhibit of proposed addition was displayed, Member Koenitzer inquired about landscaping, .noting there was :no planting in fro4f ,of printing snap Mr. Sias Brecht, 74.5 Diste]l Avenue, Los Altos, answered that the. owner had said he would put in additional planting in front of shop. He was asked to bring in a definite plan for landscaping modification. A discussion was held as to when landscaping modification should be submitted. E The heariig was opened for public. comments. There were rcree. It was moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to close Public Hearing. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Rogers moved to approve application HC 51,224.2 as submitted :it:-5 I_2 4. with the understanding that the applicant would return with plarv; approvad for landscaping prior to completion of the project. Seconded by Ma-mbe:.• Koenitzer. AYES: Members Dressler, Koer4,--er, Rogers, Chain omai Callan NOES: None Notion cari:ied, 4-0 Chairwoman Sallan advised the applicant this would now be heard by the City Council at its August 5, 1974 meeting. HC-112 MINUTES OF THE JULy 17, 1974 H L MMTING . Page 4 Dr. Kenneth 3. Dr. Kenneth E. Johnson (Ad Art, Inc.) requesting change of copy E. Johnson of an. emoting sign 3ocated aL 20Ul Stevens Creek Boulevard. Charge of Continued'€eem the Ju y 3, 1974 H-Control meeting Copy The Senior Planning Technician pointed out location of building on Stevens Creek Boulevard between Vistr Avenue and Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. The application involves a change of copy for a ground sign and a wall sign for an existing office building. Slides were shown of building aid existing signs. his. Kramer explained changes being requested. In answer to Member koenitzer, ,it was noted that Russo and Associates now have signs at top and bottom of ground sign, but will only, retain the bottom panel. Dr. Kenneth B. Johnson, .7069 :Galli Drive,. San Jose, agreed with,Member KoenitTer that the lettering an proposed wall sign was not compatible with existing adjacent sign. He commented he was not adverse,,to, l)Aving the lettering changed on"his sign. - The hearing was opened to public comments. There were none. It was moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogez-e,. to clgse ° Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 C;iange of Member Kae.nitzer moved to recommend approval of sign changes for Dr. copy approv Kenneth E. Johnson as propased with the pole sign bottom panel being ed rewoved, top panel'placed on bottom and new panel for Dr. Johnson being, placed in top location. The word "Chiropractor" on building front is to match the size, style and color of lettering used in Karate Institute sign on building front. Seconded by Member Rogers. Motion carried, 4-0 Cnairuotran Sallan advised the applicant his request had been approved. 4. Inform.! Sign Review of HC-51,027.141 Security Pacific National Security Bank. Continued frora the July 3, 1974 H-Control meeting. Pacific Nationai ':he Senior Planning Technician noted the applicant had requested an Bank infor-nul hea.r.ino to discuss various Sian alternatives for the bank at --he northeast corner of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road and Pacifica Drive. She reviewed ghat the applicant had been denied approval of ground sign, had derleed It was a total tiipi program and appealed to the City Council tcho sent it back for further consideration by il-Control. "A MINUTES OF THE JULY 17,s.1974 H-CONTROL NWING, IN KC-112 Page 5 The coumafttee agreed to give advisory`comments 'to'the applicant. Mi. Raymond ff. ,Clar, 3119. Hope. St rest, Los Angeles, said he would be delighted it they could arrive at agreeable sign program. He said they really felt the free standing' giound' sign was needed. Mr. Clark addressed the three items used €ur disallowing 6e ground sign. (1) Total number of signs. 3 had originally been Asked for. Mr. Clark said on this ptoposal they are asking for ttao. The wall sign on rear .ill be removed. The applicant pointed out their main concern is to have the building identified to traffic on Saratoga-Sunnyvale toad. The sign perpen=- dicular to Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road will give this identification. It .is a small sign, approximately 517" x 4' 5". The other sign would be a_ sign attached to the wall above the entrance. lie pointed out a small directional sign- on Pacifica Drive entrance into parking lot. (2) Condition of Planning Commission on ResolutitTa 1i54. Mr. Clark noted they have asked for a clearer definition from' the Planning Commission. He asked for the committee to consider giving approval on this design with the condition that it be cleared by the Planning Commission. (3) Less than 210 linear feet of frontage. Mr. Claris pointed out with driveway and landscaped easement they have a total of 210 ft. Mr. Clark then referred to alterriate plan: a sign on front and a f sign on the side elevation. The only sign to south-bound traffic i `could be on front and since it is parallel would give them less exposure than is needed. The letters would be 16" high. The applicant pointed out they have made concessions, mod+ E_.ed signs and tried to cooperate. He referred to signs of similar barking institites which are in excess of those asked for by Security Pacific. Member Dressler ascertained they were allowed 154 sq. ft. and were asking for a total of 105 ft. including Loth sides of free standing sign which would be. about 2%. Chairwomau Sallan pointed out there would still be the other two restraints. ip HC-112 MINVrKS OF THE JULY 17, 1974 H-CO NTROL MWIM; Page 6 Mr. Clark asked if, the committee approved.of this sign program from an archi teciural staadooint that they approva it'ai# fin the condii=lost that Planning Commission would be agreeable, Chaixwoman ,Sallan asked for clarification from staff. It was decide& the cbmwittes could make a decision if they so desired. Member Dressler said the building looked like a bank. He notel the applicant had repeated logo and name of flank twice. Mr. Clark said they had done exhaustive marketing research and were well aware"of the importance of proper identification.. Member Koenitzer said he had no objection to signs as such. He would prefer to have Planning Commission clarification before making a l decision. Member Rogers agreed. Chairwoman Sallan said she would feel comfortable with sign. progzam if Planning Commission made statement, if building sign on Biah�aay'9 was removed and put on east elevation. As far as aesthetics of sign s#e could approve grouna, sign. She felt Planning Commission should make their state- gent, and ,then' the, application should come bacl: to H-Control.. The application agreed to this. PUBLIC HEARINGS 2:30.91 5. Application_K--51,230.91 of. Ad-Art, Inc. (S&H Green, St"p S&:; Green i S;-ore) r€questing approval, of a sign plan for the S & K tamp Score � Green Stamp Store located at the southwest corner of Homestead Road and Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road in the Kcmrstead Square Shopping Center. Continued from the July 3, 1974 H-Control meetiog. The Senior Planning Technician noted the applicant had done what waa requested at previous meeting and was returning kith Wdification. i She zompared the revised sign to the original proposal, pointinV out changes made. Member Koenitzer pointed out the logo still extended above roof. Chairwoman Sallam agreed the intent was to have logo coke below roof line. Mr. Tom Frank, 160: Terminal Ave. San Jose, said the .loge could be lowered. tlember Koenitzer asked about the color of tt:e roof tile. Ms. Kramer �j said staff had not clieckad tbi5. Member Koenitzer reported there was t a slight difference between Pt: roof anti Payle s ►)of, but a very marked t lificrence between S & ti and the others. 1+ r t ��f�'A i�4yd+§5 f"�. {y �•� '� mr,�'-`..' �a..:.. ':�'s s �a �,..�' k�"�' r St MINUTES OF THE JULY 17, 1074 H-C_0-iTHOL MWING Be-III Page 7 In aeesvrer. to, C4#aizwoman Sallan, zai6 mere waa S ft. ,- , .. between1woo fascia and topof`,ts,« Chaioat+ Sallan questioned, if logo had to be the full 5 `ft. The hearing„was opened to public comment. There were none. Member K.oegitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC-51,230.191 to HC-51,230.i91. the City Council with standard conditions and with the additional., approved w/ condition that the logo be reduced in height so that it fits within conditions the ,5 ft. height of tine roof of building. Seconded by Member Dressler. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: done Motion carried, 4-0 Chai.rwoinan Sallan advised the applimnt this would be heard by the City Council at its August 5, 1974 meeting A recess was called at 9:10 p.m. with the meeting reconvening at 9:23 p.m. b. Application HC-51,332 of Ditz Crane requesting approval. HC-51,332 of site, archite_ture and landscaping for a sound wall Ditz Crane for the single-family development on Stevens Creels Boulevard east of Foothill Boulevard. The Senior Pl.mning Technician noted the committee would not be reviewing anything involving site except the sound wall. Require- ments for tentative map approval were that a sound study be T.-.ade. The required study determined that an 8 ft. high walled area would be needed on Stevens Creek Boulevard and along the rear property lines of the units located near Foothill Boulevard, and that two- story homes that front on the major streets would not be protected from noise so single story homes are recommended. 4iC-112 M NUTES OF THE .DULY 17, 1976 i$-CO Cti. MEhfiII�G Page ' ; Ms. Kramer pointed out staff°s concern regarding wall backing up to empty parcel on Stevens Creek Boulevard, Staff would recommend t t the installation of that povtft an-of the wall be deferred'f6r-'A'feW, mouths instil General Plan has bees•sdogted The Senior Planning Technician pointed out indicated location of walls on Exhibit A. The Stevens Creek Boulevard,frontagd, will utilize a coubination of berming and the precast slumpstone wall... The berm will be at a 2:1 slope rising to a total of 2 ft. Witt, the wall being 6 *ft. The house will be set back from 15-20 ft. `The Foothill Boulevard wall will be 6 ft. high with no berm. She said the applicant would return with landscaping plan. Chairwoman Sallan ascertained there was a 10 ft. distance from curb, to wall. There would be 5 ft. of sidewalk and 5 ft 'of landscaped- area. Ms. Kramer referred to existing trees. A nuuher oU trees will'hd4e to be removed. She pointed out the few trees that were planned 'to be retained. It was agreed the committee would give input as to aest'he`tics-ef'' sound wall itself. Mr. Ed Kintz, 230 Old Adobe Road, Watsonville, said in answer to Member Dressier that planting would not offer sufficient protection; a coucrete wall was necessary. Chairwoman Sallan noted there should be maximum berming. The possibility of additional setback was discussed. ' ' a -'-Liai.rwoman Sallan had Mr. Kintz point out trees chat could be saved. She suggested redesigning plan so that some of the trees along Stevens Creek Boulevard could remain. Mr. Kintz said trees were on City's right of way. Chain roman Sallan suggested modifying plans by leaving out one house in order to retain more trees. :Member Koenitzer pointed out several trees that could be saved without too much trouble. He asked why dirt was being shoveled :where it didn°t f seem to need filling. Mr. Kintz said there was a tremendous amount of undulation and this was needed for drainage. rhairaroman Sallan suggested giving direction to staff and applicant as Input. Ms. Kramer suggested condition that trees should be saved. Mr. Kii.tz said staff could be consulted before trees were removed. In answer ro Che.I rwoman Sallan as to what power ASAC had to say which trees would be saved if is meant a house would have to not be built, Ms. Kramer said they did not have that power at this point. Member Koenitzer said tie would turn in map with romarks and asked the applicant to consider it. t 3 s r MINUTES OF THE Jl3I;J 17, 1974 H-CONTROL MEETING -1 2 Page 9 After further diseussion, the meeting;was opened- for public comment. There were none. Me#"er Keenitaer moved, seconded by Member Ro geres to close Public Hearing. a Motion carried, 4-0 Member Rogers sumd for approval of application HC-51,332 with HC-51,332 following conditions: approved w/ conditions (1) through (7) - Standard conditions (S) That applicant review with staff map to be submitted by ASAC wherein are noted possibilities of saving specimen trees. (9) That the applicant shall install sound attenuation measures as outlined in the report entitled "Acoustical Study: for the Proposed Montebello West Development" by Edward L. Pack dated May 4, 1974 and addendum dated. (10) That houses built on lots 9, 10, 11, 24, 25, 32, and 33 be^single story in height. -` (11) That the construction of the sound walls adjacent to lots; 9, 10. 11, 12 and 24 shall be deferred until the Stevens Creek Plan Line is adopted.by the City Council. (12) That the sound wall adjacent to lots 25 and 32 shall be deferred until the City Council adopts the Valley Floor Infilling Plan setting forth the land use type and intensity for the property fronting on Stevens Creek Boulevard between the existing service station and Janice Avenue. If the Valley Floor Infilling Plan designated the above described property as a commercial land use, the sound wall shall be installed prior to occupancy of houses on lets 25 and 32. If the Valley Floor Infilling Plan designates the property for a residential .I.And use at the same "intensity as the Ditz Crane subdivision, the sound + wall shall be deferred further to provide the City staff, the applicant, and the owner of the aforementioned parcel frosting on Stevens Creek Boulevard to consider the feasibility of installing the sound wall adjacent to Stevens Creek Boulevard between Janice Avenue and the existing service station. A final determination of the wall location shall be made prior to completion of the subject Ditz Crane subdivision. HC-11.2 NiPfES OF THE JULY V, 1974 H-CONTROL METING Page 10 ' (13) That the applicant shall submit a landscaping plan for. the Stevens Creek Boulevard frontage ptler to City '44661 tM,6c ` of the subdivision improvements. (14) 'That maximum amount of berm be put in sound barrier built so it will be put in to a total of 8 ft. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sal.lan NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 Chairwoman Sallan adv'.sed the applicant this would be heard by the City Council at its August 3, 1974 meeting. YC-51,075.38 7. Application HC-51,075.38 of Vallco Park, Ltd. (AMI)` AMI requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading, lighting and signing for two buildings (67 & 68) located west of Swallow Drivb between Forge Drive and Homestead Road. The lerior Planning Technician noted this'was a nev office building in Val'.co Park between two existing buildings. She referred to site plan in racket. There will be approximately 100,000 sq. ft of industrial office space in addition to a parking garage which holds 425 cars and r is approximately 139,240 sq. ft. It is to be a two-story structure and will be the administrative offices of AM!. She pointed out a Planning Commission condition that requires a 6 ft. berm be placed in front of garage to alleviate view of cars from the<stireet. Ms. Kramer described site, architecture and'landscaping. She pointed out walkway between existing AMI and proposed'building. Slides of the site were shown and of existing AMI buildings. A slide of outside storage at Litronix building was shown. Mr. Bill Tagg of Vallco Park said a letter had been written to them to clean up this area. t Mr. Phil Dixon, 1080 O'Brlea, Menlo Park, said the walkway was placed to the center of the construction between the garage and the main (, building. He answered Member Dressler the reason for the 8 ft. dis- placement was For more sizable landscape screentng. 4 x s a MIMUES OF THE JULY 17, 1974 A-CONTROL MEETING HC-112 Page 11 Mr. Dixon said there were no sidewalks on existing AMI site. Coordination between the two sites was discussed. In answer to Member Koenitzer, Mr. Dixon said they are in compliance: with requirements for access by handicapped and explained provisions' being made. Chalrwoman Sallatt asked about provisions for bicycles. Mr. Dixon said there are none as yet, but he anticipated a number of employees' would be using bicycle facilities. iember Koenitzer suggested something with a strong visual impact. Member Dressler ascertained Dixon firm did not do :-MI build- ings as scale is so different. Color will be compa :ialP. Footb-ridg has trapezoid shape and will be of adequate size. Covered walking' areas are provided. Mr. Dixon said the height of railing around second level of garage was not raised for several reasons He referred to sight line exhibit. There will he substantial landscaping and two major clusters of trees. Between distance and landscaping, the cars will he shielded from Homestead Road. From Swallow and Forge even less of the cars will be seen. Chairwoman Sallan was answered by Mr. Dixon that raising railing another foot would give people the filing of being boxed in. She did not think landscaping would 4ci the job and suggested he consider' raising the railing. Mr. Dixm said with tall berms and specimen trees landscaping would be at substantial height almost immediately. Chairwoman Sallan suggested he add the foot and trees and be doubly safe. Mr. Tagg said they had gone ou;_ if their way to hide the. cars. The redwood trees would be very dev-_4e. There are three tows of trees between public street and garage. The 3'6" railing is standard safety railing height. Member Dressler ascertained the railing would be of concrete construction. Member Koenitzer said he liked most of the landscaping, but would suggest a few more shrubs in front on Homestead Road side. Mr. Tagg said landscaping was being done by Mr. Painter, using same approach as around Unicom. It has a lot of color where people will be walk- ing by to see it. Chairwoman Sallan said she did not think as much is being done by this plan as could be. She thought they might want to rework some shrub design along front of building as Homestead Road is a major frontage. Mr. Tagg agreed to confer with Mr. Painter on this. z i;C-112 43NU°TF.§ OF 1'gg J1TLY 17, 1974 H-0 CONTROL "WiNG . Page. 12 The grading is satisfactory. The lighting will be 15 ft: standards including pedestal. Mei4r, Dressler ascertained upper tier will be illuminated at night. Chairwoman. Sallan-questioned- any ,tptxusion to homes across Honest--,ad' Road. Mr. Dixon said there would only be three standards that could be Geer. from Homestead Road. The others will be behind the building. Mr. Tag pointed out these stancards Are the; same as used. at the lost six developments in Vallco Park. With regard to signing, snapshots of existing signs, were distributed.. Member Koenitzer asked if existing sign on other building would be taken out. Mr. Barrow of AM said .they had not decided. The main:, sign is in front of existing, building. There may be something pupl-ler in front of this building denoting them as corporate offices. .Ch woman Sallan suggested continuing signing until the- applicant has, decided on signing program. Mr. Tagg said there are only about 75 sq. ft. on each side.which.is lh%. ae-would like to apply; for tuia one, but if .they feel strongly will accept a condition. Member Dressler said he liked toe,.sigp kut suggested perhaps, it need not be 10, ft. Mr.. Tagg suggested,there pould be one 10 ft. sign and one at 7 ft. on Homestead.,Road..,. The,o,Gher,sign is in Santa Clara. The conwittee agreed the sign was aesthetically satis.factary. The hearing was openad for comments from the public: There were ,none. Member Koenitzer moved to close Public Hearings.. Seconded by ., er Dressler. Motion carried, 4-0 KC-51 ,075. 38 Member Dressler moved to recommend approval of IiC-,51,075.38. to City spproved w/ Council, subject to standard conditions, and the following additional conditions conditions: (1) That the architect investigate walkway plan between AM buildings across the street and lime of walkways for ( employees with a minimum of exposure to roadway and parking e lot: traffic. (2) To insure that bicycle racks are included in parking provisions. (3) That the City staff review project after completion for visual intros t.on and li.gtit intensity for both building and parking lot with the provision that change, or iecommendati.ons can be made by the City staff. AN! moill 1UNUTES OF THE JULY 17, 1974 H--CONTROL MUTING : IIC-112 Page 13 (4) That additional shrubbery be placed along Homestead Road frontage for,low -profile planting, (5) That per gentlemen's agreement,project will, have Mo signs upon completion of this project, being that.,one-sign will, bt tie ,10 ft. -sign as included in the exhibit and that the second sign will be an existing.7 ft. sign located.;on one of the other buildings. (6) To compliment applicant on- cooperation and planning.. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. Motion carried, 4-0 Chairwoman Sallan advised; 'he applicant this would be at ,the August 50 1974 meeting o: the City Council. Chairwoman Sallan then pointed out that any items not heard before the 11:30 .m. cutoff .point w::uld be placed fit$t oU the ;agenda :of" ® the nev -aeeting. S. Application HC-51,075.37 of The Westfield Company (Chris . _ HC-51,075.37 Marchese) requesting approval of site, architecture,. Iand- The Westfield scaping, grading and lighting for a buliding loca:ted;at Company the northwesterly corner of Pruneridge Avenue and Tantau Avenue. The Senior Planning Technician pointed out the building is located in the Vai:zo Park area. It is a single story building. The committee had earlier requested the aasterlymost curb-cut on Pruneridge Avenue be _osed. The Planning Commission request#-_.; that the westerly driveway be terminated, pro-,riding that. a ,joint driveway could be arranged between the Hewlett-Packard development and the subject parcel sometime in the future. The applicant had complied with these provisions as indicated on Exhibit A. There are no sidewalks but are walkways leading into building. Site flan provides for approximately 25 ft. of landscaped area along the Pruneridge and Tantau Avenue frontages. There (perimeter land- scaped areas for the rear and side include 5 ft. and 6 ft. minimums. Building meets all of the setback requirements stipulated in the ligit industrial zone. n v,,,��.tr.#., KG-112 MNUTB$ OF THE JULY 17, 1974 U-COMOL MUTING hake 14 Ms. Kramer described !?he architecture. She referred t.- the air conditioning equipment in middle of roof, noting the applicant should comment on metal screening of the unit. With regard to landscaping, the existing planting scheme along Pruneridge Avenue consists of a flat area with a berm seat at approxi-- mate :y lu ft. in back of curb. The flat'pihrtion is usdd for plant_ag of street trees. The applicant is proposing-to mound they entire area which will break the continuity of the planting'on the 'street. The staff' su;ggeated that 10 ft. of flat area be provided for street trees and [sounding on the remaining 15 ft. The applicant is proposing to use three types of lighting. (Me will be a 35 ft. parking light standard in the eastern and ,western parking. areas, another will be a wale. mounted light along the rear portion of the building and the third will be a decorative light on the front wall of the building. In response to Member Koenitter a:: to height of standards being approved in Vallco Park, Ais. Kramer said the last application was for a 15 ft. standard and there had been some 20 ft. standards approved. Member Koenitiet' noted'there were no sigh plans submitted.,, Mr. Blz.ir, 20622 Debra Avenue, Saratoga. said the light po2.2 had been lowered to 20 ft. With regard to driveways, the Planning Coimis�zion was questioning the fact that Hewlett-Packard` had a driveway close to this driveway; however, Hewlett-Packard does not have one which alleviated that concern. In answer to Chairwoman Sallan's sugges'Uon to decrease sidewalk, Mr. Blair said a nom!.nal number of people would be using it so they would be happy to have ti:c additional landscaping area. Member Rogers agreed this was a better arrangement. Member Koenitzer said a _i ft. sidewalk would be sufficient, noting he would like to see sidewalks around as he felt more people would be walking and provision should be made for it. Member Rogers asked about bicycle racks. Mr. Blair said this could be worked out. Member Dressler noted in most industrial areas, the people who rent the buildings provide this for their employees. ''.ember Koenitzer said he would rather see this provided for now. CLain?Ohldll S-rd-lan suggested a policy state:mene that this committee would like to have bicycle racks provided. fir. Bleir said they would be included. In answer to Humber Dressler, Mr'. Tom Masters, 1671 the Alameda, San Jose, described raised platters and displayed renderings. gy . HIMES 9F THE 3ULY 17$'"1974 haCO. kOL MEttING " ` -112 Page 15 der Koenitzer asked about the dog mouse on the roof: `X,r. `tgaster's pie latet out where it could be placed. Member r benitzer iiid"he would rather not see anything showing. This should be screened and ridden beneath the roof line. Mr. Kasteis said it would be siadlar in color and 'form as to what wa. done on the wall. Due to setback wt.-tld have minimal impact from _ye level an the street. Member Rogers ascertained it would be 3 ft. above parapet. Chairwoman Sallan said although it would be 50 ft. from edge of the building, she would prefer to see it totally screened. Mr. Masters said the wall would have to be raised 3 ft. and this would ruin proportions of the building. Ways of screening the air conditioning equipment were discussed. Chairwoman Sallan suggested incorporating in the building, noting It should have been caught at an earlier review. It is the City"s policy not to have to look at it. Xr. Alai said there are two buildings that are complete and the' air cones tioni.ng equipment is .ridden. This building is beiAg built an speculation. He explained there might not be a need for air ` eouditionirF, dependent on its use. Ad—tes further discussion, Chairwoman Sallan suggested approving it conditionally. it was unfair to put ASAC in the position of having to approve something that isn't generally approved, that of having the screening above the ro. f. Mr. Blair suggested if it is out of Vu_v and they could convince staff of that, this would be satisfactory. If they had to provide screening, rtey would come back for approval. Mr. Masters said for all practi,:a_3 purposes, it is hidden. Hember Koenitzer noted there were no proposals for signs. The building _ias strong architectural image and sign plan is something e ASAC should have now and not later. Mr. Blair said not knowing if there would be one or two tenau`s, their intent was to come in with sign presentation corresponding to number of tenants .in the building Member Kcr.Atzer reiterated it is a Planned Development and he would like to see some plans at this time and not at a later date. Mr. Masters said there was no place for a sign on the building; it would have t ; be a free standing sign. s r-- Ott.. 5k y F HC-112 MINUTES OF THE JULY 17, 1974; R-CONTROL M ING C"'; Page 16 Chairwoman Sallan said they could come in with schematic plan. It should be considered at this time .so they could, give input to them. She wpm like to see this done for all applications that come in without sitg#t plans. Chairwom�m Sallan noted the 10 ft. flat area on east side was to be 5 ft. of sidewalk and S ft. o4 landscaping,. She ascertained there would be mounding to maximum of 3h ft. Her mair concern kias the hiding of cars. She noted there was grass along major frontages with street trees and olive trees. She was concerned that zero mounds with street trees- Vould leave gaping places. Air. Master: said there was some shrubbery. Chair- woman Saban said there was plenty of room for shrubbery to fill in on mounding. Mr. Masters pointed out neither of the two buildings across the stieot have the S ft. to 10 ft. mounding, but they had no objections to haviL-_ it. They felt the breaks would break up the long continuous line df mounding. Chairwoman Sallan suggested thsy switch their plans Is continuous should be around the parking area. Member Koenitzer said he liked the idea of variatfo i in tmounds. :he k applicant could just add 3 or 4 shrubs on eastern side at wo breaks t in the mound. Mr. Masters agreed, with this. With regard to lighting, Chairwoman Sallan suggested they move pole Amik Rtandards into planter. Mr. Blair said this would wipe out about 80% of lighting effectiveness. Mr. Masters said it would ihterfere -pith fmicrion of light which is for safety of employees. Member. Koenitzer suggested they investigate possibility of tvrninffi ' fi t<<re so standard is perpendicular. Mr. Blair said they would. The hearing was opened to public comment. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 4-0 1 Fi',•-;1,Q7:i..i7 Nied:er Dressler moved to recoaunend approval of app:!icati�:HC-51, ark;roved w' 075. 37 to the City Council, subject to standard conditions and GJn(litiOns ; Exbibits A, L, B--i, B-2, C, E, E-1 with following additional conditions- (1) 1'lia.t the protect include planning for bicycle racks. (2) Relative to the air conditioning as discussed, that the appli- cant review light•-of-sight required and insure that the air conditioning and screening of air conditioning equipment -ill not be seen from any of the public streets at eye level. i { *# ,, 3 z MINUTES OF THE JULY 17, 1974 H-CONTROL HEMUG page 17 (3) Reduce sid lk 1e�ading easterly, of the parkit►g lot in width frcw,10: ft4 to= 5-'it. `AAA iInelude S `fato of landscap- ing compaYab-le with -the plant (4) That the Applicant review''the-'light standard in the park- ing lot to the east and investigate locating standard in the planter. (5) Subject to the mounding .,ant cf project that the applicant add shrubb�-g1 to insure that the parking lot is adequately screened from the street and provide breaks in the mounding in front of building to provide vision of the building and to provide 10 ft. setback on mounding from the curb, (6) Staff to review lighting of project after* 1 istallation to' insure that the intensity is not too extreme. (7) To complirmut architect and builder. Seconded by Member Rogers, AYES: Members Dressler, Roenit2'er,' Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 (1airwonaa So-Ilan advised the applicant this would be heard by the City at its August 5, 19`74 meeting. Chairwoman Sallan noted it war raw past the cut-off time. Mr. Paige, Stoneson Development corporation, the next item on the agenda, asked to speak. He said the sarri points were gone over and over at great length on each application, bscoming very redun- dant and taking up hours of time. He suggested guidelines be put".shed by the Planning Department, listing what H-Control wantea on each phase of the application, Chairwoman Sallan pointed out there was a landscaping guideline. She understood his frustration as the comet.;ttee shared them. Mr. Paige pointed out these delays were costing developers thousands of dollars. The Senior Planning Teciiician said it would cause a delay of about 5 weeks for Stoneson Development Corpu«.cion as they coul+, not be issued a foundation permit without approval by this committee. She explained why it was not on at beginning of the meeting with rest of auntinued applications. After discussion, the committee agreed to hear this application. d:t, KC-112 MINUTES OF THE JMY 17, 1974 -H-009Ti& Page 18 HC-51,283.4 9. Application HC-51,283.4 of Stoneson Development Corporation Stoneson (The Oaks Shopping; Center) requesting, approval of modification Development of architect►ire foe .a- proposed, ;theatre-ff r_1lfty 2oc:awd at the Corporation northwest conwr of Mrary. , venue and Stevens Creek Boulevard. Continued from the July ;.3* 1974 H-Control tweeting. The mod$fications proposed for the theatre were. displayed. Mr. Paige noted they were back to what had. originally been approved by this committee. The Senior Fla'nning Technician pointed out the concern of the committee had been with seeing a cyood siding treatment on the upper half of the building and a trellis along the bottom half. Mr;. Page pointed out on the exhibit the treatment being proposed. In answer to Member Dressler, .fr. Paige, said, they had lowered the roof and eliminated outriggers. The outriggers were architectural adornments. Member Koenitzer felt the texture got away from the warehouse look. Chairwoman Sallan said she liked the outriggers and was sorry to see r it modified. She referred to statement that ,the.; eomit tee;was,:cot cerned about height. She preferred higher building with origiral gaesthetic style. : Member Koenitzer said he, tfolt, ;t•he .revised proposal was what thev had asked for. After further discussion, the hearing was opened to comments from the public. There were none. It was moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Dressler,, to close Public Hearings. _ Motion carried, 4-0 ,IC-51.,*?8 .4 Aiember Koenitzer moved to recommend,approval of RC-51,283.4 to the pproved City Council with the standard conditions and exhibit 8-2, 3rd Revision. Seconded by Member Rogers. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: 'None Motion carried, 4-0 vise this would be heard h the City Council . The applicant- was advised � y Y fat its August .5, 1974 meeting. 1 s 1pjg ! t a 11INUT Ec OF M JULY 17 1974 U--Ct}T-ROL MTOG ssu,lt2 Pa 20 C11airwoman Sallau repdx-rnd sh starting; August 7. Rnn_ would litre the'#0 t'if pesssible �d could submit her input in writing. ADJAUMLNT At 12ilo a.M. wber Dressler moved u o adj0drnment to no, regular Rogers- meeting on August 7: 1974 at 7:00 P.m. Seconded by iled,er Rogers. Noiticm carried, 4-0 • App'RpVELti ' ;e' ' ATTEST City Cler s- m,W S` x .,r -• a ..fit` `" ."w�'r r I!F1-Iff S OF THE JULY 17, 1974 H-CONTROL MEETIRG �HC-112 , • �,!' . t `' "" Page 19 17he applicant expressed appreciation to"staff anad cm _Il1nente4 g them on Aoi ng an ,excellent:,job 4 10. Application HC-51,259.8 of Portal Plaza Shopping Center )IC-51,259.8 requesting approval of a landscaping plar. for Phase .1. Portal Plaza: of the modification to existing, shopping center located 1 ,continued to on the nortneas t corner of. Portal Avenue and Stevens s Cteek : uiext ;nee lain,^, Boulevard. This item was continued to the next meeting. VE14 BUSINESS f r Member Dressler reported-he would be teaching a class at San Jose ,p.Wednerday nig between September and December. He inquired has to'4"the pro a pro or for this absence. Staff is to check. Baer ed"for Minute Order that facilities for bicycle i MINUTE Ok)`!;R ccsnsid as a-matter ;,f course by each applicant. Seconde4,by Member Dressier. Motion carried, 4-0 ARA Member Rogers mcved for a Minute Order that each applicar_.t be made 1 MINUTE Qr.D ?; aware beforel',and that his presentation to W-Control should include ; signing which is compatible architecturally with his building, whether or not he has tena.its. Seconded by Member koenitzer. Motion carried, 4=00 h . Chairwoman Sallan noted the planting had not been done at Do n's I-Don's Burgers. :4s. Kramer said he was doing the work himself and was ' slow. Final inspection has not been done. i Chairwoman Sallan noted the dipsey dumpster at Goodyear on Saratoga-- ! Goodyear Sunnyvale Road northerly of Freeway 280 Was filled :air_h old tires. s 6 Morber Koenit:er pointed out plants at Payless have extended out i Payless plorits into parking lane and now cars are parking out into traffic lane. into parking Enforctnrent of parking regulations s.n private areas is something lane that should be considered. Hemher Bre3sl.er referred to bulletin board in Council Cbambers, Bulletin 3o icd sugAestiag something; more attractive migiit 'be installed. The committee agreed this was not a verb* aesthetic_ -arrangement. ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE MIN_UrES 9 of 12 O1/03/1973 - 12/19/1974 VA CIJ v v i.Vk 1'Y`J*�LTV I � Yi iCl y wY ,nk-di m f IN 41t iJ J 10300 Torre Avenue, Ctigertitaa, 'Califirnvt 95014 Ti-lephone A152-450 MINUTES OF THE VCG-MtIt MEET14C OF THL ARC3#�?j.'�'tl3�AL� APPROVAL C0194ITi°TEv-?ET'D,A:UGWT 76,, 19,7..4 : IN THE CO•fMCI dHAII �.R, C-iR HAii.`e`C ER MO CALIFORNIA Sk.E�s E TO TIM FLAG Vice-Chairman Koen,itzer, called the meeting, to order at, ROLL CALL C-.v m. axe eat Dressler, tdeinat;elnp ViCB=CYia�r ri ve i3 i r . Co,nm. `absent: Chairman Saiian Staff present: Aisoc#ate`�lsatier -taber`t,Co an} Trafsic Engineer Glenn Grigg' uenf8r. Planning Techniclar4 Toby Kramer POSTFOYE-4714TS .:here were none, .,TPROVAL OF MINUTES: July 3, 1974. i '.Roved by Comm. Dressler, seconded by Comm;. Weinstein to' e4tirtitiuc;! the Minutes of July'3, 1974 Motion carried, 3-0 Aftar discussion, it was decided a representative(s) from P.G. E. :could come to a meeting to discuss lighting data. �WRITIEN C0;124"i i:CATIOii5 letter of August 5, 1974 fro,:. Ci:airman Sallan capress•i.ng her deep r",,rat the..t ` a would be unable to attend this riecctiag. Letter of August 6, 1974 from Member rarbara Pagers resigniut fron this Cummitte.e, effective pp 1 a z $ sic-i13 NUTES or THE AM= 7, 1914 t�� i . ALA.51� PMt, cam! Tiiig WG. Page Z •. I' UTE ORDFR TO THE CITY COUNCIL PV(*1 THE R-CONTROL CO MITrEE asking that a letter of commendation be sent to 'Mrs. Rogers for serving on.:the.Ccrmaitt®e. . ' Motift" carried, 3-01 The Senior Planning Technician introduced a list of people who will be on the Siga Review C-mmittee. Mr. Edvrard Calvin, 3693 Carlisle Avenue (Westwood Batts), Santa Cl:a'ra, stated there are no sidewalks along Prureridge between Wolfe find Tantau so the people could walk to the shopping venter. They must-now walk along the street, which is hazardous. ?t was his undefaidtidling that the Cupertino Charter ,states that sidewp� :s must be provided where buildings are built. This matter was referred to the staff;. Bice-Chairman Koenitzer stated .that,no. new public hearings will be, .initiated after 11 :3d"'�A. {PUBLIC MARINOS 1 �1. Auplication iiL '+1..?_59.6 of Portal !Plaza SIloppinn "eii6e Le ue'atdiYg ap zuval of a land capiug plan for 11►ase _ of t►►e modifications to fe the existing shepp{ng center located on t1,e northeast corner ad Portal Avenue and Stevens Cree'.: Blvd. Continued from meting of July 17, 1974. Vice-Chairman Koegitzer cautioned that the Co►.enittee's review or this f applica ion is restricted to the aesthetic quality of the develol mmit. The Senior Planning Technician stated that the site plan for the Lumberjack was reviewed in conjunction %;ith the moeifications to the ;shopping center. The review at this meeting was in regard to the western por-tioa. The landscaping area ono Stevens Creek Blvd. and on Portal Avenue is 121 wide. The applicant is proposing to retain the existing junipers and trees and add additional, taller plantings. The main l objecti,ve here is to screen the pzirkiug. lAttorn,3y Jim Miller, representing oi-r..er George. Yamaoka, said there is a I .;u-yea_--o►ld narrour strip of land3c:tpirag Which they would like to preserve t alid ;_ncornorate into the plan. He noted that along Stevens Creel: Blvd. , froir idol.fe Road to Saratoga-Sunnyv:►1,. Road there is no moon ing, and most of t'ie property is already developed. lla:. 'I"EMer silted that: ill add t:ion to the e iNlaslor. of the present lJand cilpiug :areas, they are proposing tt:.� sddiLion of some greenery at the ends of each pLrking bay. Crye plan is to put in a 3' high mound. a-long Portal. By comparison, ha sal ! that there i:; an 1.3" to 24" high strip of mounding at the office compl.,x directly a.r►o5s the street from City iiall. ;a IN - MIN"JTES OF THE AUGUit"7, 'Y<974IL46H5`Rs& SING ,.. ` l'age13 Member 'r itdstein noted a °discrepancy on the landscapW�'JAai , whic wily `Ve rectIf .ed'. lie further sdigeated 'yucca �or- flas bin. °added to that 301- strip to break up the mon6tidny" . The Iandncep,_ zrchi-- tact said this presented no problem; however, the yucca was planned to .go beneath the sign for emphasis. He suggested bottlebrush or some similar plant be used `instead. Mr. 34as -Do'i, the landsca�e architect, said the yucca is a slow-growing member of the cactus family. In tu'3 years the bottlebrush could be high enough to screen the cars. Colored slides of the site were displayed, Vice-Chairman Koenitzer would 'liketo see a variety-of higher plant behind the junipers along Stevens Creek Blvd. and would like to'se this indicated on the plans. He noted the veronica gross '3' to `k� high, and'he would rather see something 5 r to 6' I Igh instead. HO would like to see two different shades of leaves. He would like-t' see something higher. where the holly is planned. He suggested'a shrub like pyracant:ha along the berm by the trees to ptdvide screening at the mound, above the lower-�growing -¢lAnts Vice-Chairman Koenitzer read Chairman Sallan$'s remarks about this proposal. Mr. Miller said the applicant was; present at the last'-meeting until, 11:25 P.M., when it was announced there would be no new hearings after 11:30 P.M. He understood there d'ras some discussion after 11:30 P.M. Member Weinst,'-in could not understand why the applicant felt there would be difficulty in mounding along Stevens Creek Blvd. , bahind the existing landscaping. Mr. Miller said we have existing, 10 year--old junipers and trees and irrigation in there now. A 4° mounding directly adjacent to it would destroy the existing land- scaping. The purpose is to hide the cars, whether it is done with mounding and/or greenery. Member Weinstein said that unless some large-sized plants are put in, it will be a long time before the greenery will be sufficiently dense to accomplish this. Mr. Miller said the developer has no objections to incorporating these instructions into the proposal and coming back within two weeks with a new set of plans. Moved by Member Weinstein, seconded by Member Dressler to continue HC-51,259.8 application HC 51,259.8. continued Motion carried, 3-0 Y HG-113 MIi FS OF THE I'GUST 7, 1974 H-COWROL M=UG Page 4 With. tile. permission of tAe,applicant, application HC-51,US.40 sods, postpone to the and .of the ag4aaa.since,, it was anticipated ttts It would be quite time-consuming, 3. Application HC-51,339 of. Merritt; -Sher (Tesr;anomic,s CorporatiOA) requesting approval of site,, architecture, landscaping and .grading, for a cosnmertcial dnvalapmeut located at the east side of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, south of Silverado Avenue. The Senior Planning Technician said this application is for ;vfrea- standing restaurant ai.d a row of commercial stores on the southeast side of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, south of Silverado Avenue. , It igludes a, 10' sidewalk and landscaping., There is adequate parking. These are residential homes 90' from the tear of this,do-velopmepit. The lsa�Scape plans call for Monterey pines and ground cover. There is no Bute along either side since there .is the passibility this,may tie in rIih. }e adjacent, undeveloped property.' Although the architecture is ,s,(01wbat d; =+great than typically found in recent developments in Cupertf , it would be compatible. The hip .roof of the rest:auraat will. be of o.,green Isheetmetal material, which will also be used on the large fascia of the front of the row of shops. pColored slides were shown, of the property under discussion. This ' completes the unde:gtounding of utilities along Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. The Senior Planning Technician said- there is an exist ing,:sfngle-1family home directly to the east that has commercial zoning. ' There is a* indicat on at this time, but there is the possibility of ex-tension of the commercial. Signing and lightiug will be discussed at a.l,ater date. The Coco restaurant will probably require a tree-standing sign: The signs could go along the fascia of the row of shops. Mr. Merritt Sher, 220 Montgomery Street, San Francisco, said they are not happy with the car wash next door. They will make every reasonable effort to upgrade the area. He said Coco's is similar to Marie Callendars restaurant. Re believes the roof treatment to be very attractive, with the green about the color of grass,. Sicce there was more than adequate parking, Vice-Chairman Koenitzer asked the applicapt if ye would consider 3 of the spaces a long the res*_,.::rant being used for additional landscaping. Mr. Sher agreed to ith s, presuming it is all right with the tenant. The Vice-Chairman said tie would like the handicapped parking to be retained. He suggested extcading the walkway* outside Coco's to Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road so people would have a pedestrian walkway rather than having to walk in the driveway. j' tzr74 `. HIYMES OF THE IWGUi il* 147 i=� }�i aiiia �+�-II3 #age 5 1'he srehitecte�re` was 'df�ctisse� #next. ftember Bressler ask gbotrt the resof ica `mated=;`tY`oi*%`t`ha?t'thb h applicant is'intifodueing 'a roof Into a rein- ate dices. Y3r. Sher said it is a tons A-4iAih giceen sheetmetal with ribs; It.e of f ered to 'Oma tack with`S ccilcrr;`stiftole. -'MiRinber Te3�xstein eaiil" he would a lso like a sa le of the tailding material Inc-lude '. Sign plans were,di:scussed next. Mr. Sher said the signs will be individuatl, interior-lit letters. He answered Member Dressler that they hid one tenant who wanted to be slightly different from the others. Member Dressler said he does not mind `a break in the stores, but he t�vutild, like to see ' a continuous, horizontal line: The applicant' was informed that' caumfClaging of the roof apurt'enances is one'of the standard conditions. The Vice-chairman was concerned' 'that the buildings look rather massive. Mr. Sher said that when you look at the grading plan, they are recessed 1 foot. ® In regard to the landscaping, A4ember Weinstein asked for the addi= tion of two olive trees, one b3 the restaurant, and anotbet on the other side because he noted the plan calls for iougfily 260' with'' only two olive trees. Mr. Sher agreed to this. Member Weinstein noted that every square foot of the property not, consumed in concrete'is covered with ivy. Vice-Chairman Koenitzer suggested 3' high shrubs along the walkway- to Coco's to help screen the view of the parking lot as you go north along Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. Mr. Sher was not sure whethe that would break up the continuity of tine mound . Vice-Chairman Koenitzer asked for comments from the audience. 'there were none. Moved by Member Dressler, seconded by Member Weinstein to close the public hearing. ;lotion carried, 3-0 r C-113 5 OLD Tim AUGUST T, ;IL9?4 R7C9WA%- MI:EMNO,, Page 6 iC-51,339 Moved by Member Dressler, seconded .by Member Re stew tp �� ,n� approved to the City Council approval of SC-�Sh,'93� se�blect 'to tie stand a/coni.itions cot3dl tion8, fthibits A,? #, D,,a,-the,fss1ls Sag; 044itiona�,r z :removal. �,,f O ree ,pssYs��} :paces: fti,f�romt .og �`oco Re�tau�cant to Saratoga-Supiiyvale Roast, and}xre e 'th space wfth 3ancis+tp compatible,with the c'o,wr iondscap3 a inclo ng, a, sidewalk restaurant to the sidewalk along Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road-, t on of two olive trees,. l In the centei in front of the Coco Restaurant and !. entered in the landscaping berm along Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road in front of the project. The applicant shall return fer approvaX',mf project color with samples of roof color and wood stain design on the side of the building and samples of the construction blocks for approval by this CommLtt". The'Associate Planner said the City is try$ng to .link parking, .Iots in commercial areas togetttex .to p: tigate stars and, travel pattern problems. He asked. rho Committee y .they would_ include a condition that the applicant agree to try to accomplish this. Mr. Sher said. tlxey could like to have some control so they won't be bound In with some .possibly incompatible use ,of ,the adjacent property. An amendment to the motion was made by Xersber Weinstein, seconded by Member Dressler (since there were no other Members prasernt to do so) that-there _should be, if at all; possible. ina ;," �u�,tara, Jepazi#3 n:� on deve lapment of adjaceat; property, some Link to.,inclu4e� driveway*.f ; etc'.. to combine curb eats Vote on the amendment: AYES: Members Weinstein, di e-6afrmac. Raen#zar NOES: rlember Dressler ABSENT: Chairman Sallan Motion carried,,, 2-1. Vote on the motion: AYES: Members Dressler , Weinstein, Vice-Chairman Koeri.tzer NOES: None .%BSENT_ : Chairman Sallan Motion carried, 3-0 14UMES OF TO A17GuST``7; 1►age 7 gfg�'ft�IS��D Dt15YhE33` t z Application KC-31 07i-12 of Taylor Whe-,, :planning Corporati 4. APP s lt�ta r e` ose t t appr ova o 4 the'a s f is t `idlug 1 3 rofesaioziavo for f3Ve s3 le:dstury` Chi iittr set -10IV of �Yorre Avt�13tY� d ttae s wittiest corner c Pacifica Drive. Technician said, this &pplication was apptcred The Senior Planning Council lag" Ndverabix. They is arene in its entirety by the City ment across the street from City 'emu- and to delete x,ew develop of 96 spaces requesting a modification to acid �reuires a$mi imam 12 parking spaces. The ��rdinance requires coat ent rd4dest is to and the original approval wars fcr ,,e in is bei,09 reduce this figure to 97. ` `file p@r3met�o` la�sc�p ` g --revised.,also. said f die; iy6Q8 ltin%laiad`�eexsse, L�ate��Seteno, `f� Mark Esatydain, osk- trees die h are evergreen. asing to Use holly +dins is� prop The a6`ice-�i�i�man mid-be red Oak is a deciduous variety-: refer to see some Itind of toa el�af evergreens tree in`t 1e p areas shag Tore planting ire the`audiet�ee Gf ce -Chairman koanitsex asked for ccmments . There were Moved by Member Dressler, seconded by Mer►bet Weinsgein to close the public hearing- Motion caritied, 3-0 4 K RCo31,027 -12 seconded by Hember Dressler to approVe m3dif ica t io:y= Moved by Member Weinstein, approved 027.12, subject Les the standard cTorxe the modiflcatians to aiC-^�ls�i:a; condition: The, trees along Lions and the following p *en and Avenue frontage shall be G�llebef left rom dtoithe staff eand$the the ch°icearchiaedttrees shall landscapes AYES: Members Dressier, Weinst.ein, Vice-Chairman Koenitzer NOES: None ABSENT: Chairman Sallan Motion carried, 3-0 M a� CA qC-113 HtlarMS OF THE AUGUST y,.1974 H"CQs' TRH 1 31 E Page 8 Recess was called at 9:30 P.M. The meeting reconvened at 9:45.8.�4r 2. Application K.51,075.40 of Vallco Park, Ltd. , requesting approval of site, architecture, grading; and conceptuzl landscaping for the regional shopping center including Ralock's and J. C. Penney located southerly of and adjacent to Freeway Route 286 at its intersection witie Wolfe Road, eatend:ing southerly nn the westerly side of Wolfe Road from said Freeway 2$G can the ea-.terly side of Wolfe Road to Vallco Park Way. Written comatnications regarding this application were introduced., The Ac3sociate. Planner stated that tiais is the .third and final .steep in the development process. The scope is to review a :very detailed ,site land landscape plan of the project which has been approved by tbe City Council. The parking ratio could be reduced by 10% in order to increase the landscaping. , The Dract+man plan, was.introduced�, Oth h (combines parking spaces nor zompact_.a€td standard-sized cars. The Inirector of Public Works, as cvncexned. that tUare were too maay,_cpnees allocated to compact cars in the ne t;:west pe,rtior. if Lhe .prap4rty. 1 rice-Chairman Zoenituc r said his experience ;.t 7.cckhecd is that ar voile Jcilio has 1as ; than a 10-ton truck feels lie hac a can,- acL cac and (taus !those V ark. as spaces.- There followed a dis.ass on of enfo c4mr,nt„cf Drachmaaa plan. Member. Weinstein :Aso believed that in Tome inst4pce:a, corners of compact cars would use standard-si_i.ed paxkka,-, spaces. Z The>Associate Planner answered 'Wmber WeinsLaln. that • if ke.Ven,t,to all ,,standard-sized parking spaces this plan would not ,work. Member Weinstein stated that he would not pest his Porche (a compact ficar) in a 7.5' chide parking space.. :The AssocieLe Planner said the second consideration in terms of the site plan related to peripheral landscaped areal: on the west side, between. Bullock's store and the adjacent residential. It willl be difficult to get three roans of trees and a bike path in chat 25' strip. Sears , Vallco Park and Portal. P'aza will have to have some zind of agreement to nake that entrance at Stevens '('reek ulvd. —)r.k, also. One of the co-adi•tions of approva:. .is that tbeere wJ1-1 bc- no delivery + trucks using the perineter rceae's naar the residential. 'he only truck rraffie will be that going down the Sears ramp. iMeatier Dressler noted a 5% grade from tl7e east parking lot: to the stores, and he couldn't imagine shopipers walking up to the stores. i A s, a'{„ � =,y"' ` >::�c=�a ssi e }"-1� �$`^:,",r -`F�'C`� '"'�«.^rx,„. � a •'�° `"*G',�- '� „+ ��.� S` MiNuTES of THE AUGusr:`7, 1974 €€-CdkWL �C-RA 2]3 { ` Page '9 The Associate Planner said the 8e sound wall will extend all along• the} residential property to the west. it will be a precast-type slumpstore. The Associate Planner next reviewe& the grading plan, pointing out the areas where there will be fill and the areas to be cut.. It was determined the grade level of the ground fluor of Peaneye is 5' higher than that of Spars. Mr. Walter Ward, Vallco Park General Manager, opened his remarks - by stating that he never said-he expected a battle before this Body, as the article in the July 22nd issue of the San Jose Mercury says. This is the 114th meeting he has attended in regard to this project. He said they have tried to incorporate all suggestions of the people to mitigate any problems. He'noted that 40 consult- ing firms have worked on this. He has had 3 meetings in New York City with 17 persons, all day, from Pennneys. Mr. Butterfield, of Vurs dr. Bernardi & Evanons, Architects fc ` the Vallco Park development gave an analysis of the parking and- ite plan. They first went through the project to see where they could best distribute the 10% increase of landscaping. The original use permit calls for 12". in landscaping; it is'now up to 18%. They reinforced the perimeter road. They are providing a bike path through the center a:zd oa the Tantau overcrossing. They had an overlay shnvin.g how they intent to :implement the Drachmae plan for their parking layout, The Associate Planner said the parking ratio is 1 space per 240 sq. ft. of building, but this ratio decreased with a larger project . The; are proposing 1 space per 200 sq. ft. W. Butterfield said there are 16 handicapped spaces near all major entrances. He then displayed an exhibit of compact and standard cars parked in compact and standard stalls. As to the grading, Mr. Butterfield said they have developed a balanced cut and fill situation. From the Sears ground floor, they scooped out and put a building on top at the same level as Sears. This allows cr,vered parking area below. All service point are under cover. Prn-w the mall you can go into the lower level of Penneys. Member Dressler was concerned about the 5% slope up to the Penreys store from the parking lot. Mr. Butterfield said this is not considered a problem at this point. F' ,m.e RI.WES LY THE AUGUST 7, 1974 H-4PONTROL P=1HG, pC-113 Paige lA Mr. Sheldon Gordon, Codevelog if Vu11co F'ash.iou Park, said thee,} Is a very definite purpose for this grading up to the Penne7 gtggq, Penneys puts their fashion lines only on the floor with direct r access to the parking lot. This would put tha it hard line produc e such as furniture, upstairs. The shopping renter has a one-level , � F e mall. If the parking lot is dropped it would simply make the t Penney store look higher. Member Weinstein suggested the eiiti.re shopping center be built single story throughout. Mr. Butterfield next went over the elevations and the model of the center. The underground parking area will be 14' high and the ceiling will be treated with acoustical material. It will be light and airy. They have tried to work with natural materials that wear well and blend in with the community: warm-tone precast cf.ment, paneled wall -with redwood soffett, natural brick, and solar brown, obscure glass which allows seeing out but not, in. There tail be a series of glass alcoves for display on the one side and for the restaurant on the other. Their solution for screening the ser- vice areas would be to- provide baffle partial walls of concrete material . Member Weinctein commented that this appw.rs to be Letter than he anticipated. Architect Pierre Cabrol, of Welton Becket Associates, 11-0000". Santla._ Monica Blvd. , Los AAngeles, explalnel, there are two entrances ca the south side, one -from 4cie anall and one from belov- which is related - tothe parking areas. Tbey *.va:nted to avcid the feeling o,' a big box. For this reason rbey cut t!te corner 45' to reduce the bull of the building and allow free vistas, and to open up the relation between the buildings, landscaped areas and parking areas.. The area trith the stalls and ramps has been loaded with landscaping 1 and heavy roof to make it as pleasant an experience as possible. ' Mr. Cabrol reviewed the building materials: plaster on the walla and at the enta:anceG they, Are using wood or, the fascia and walls The same concrete being used in the center will be used on the Bullocks store and on the wall protecting the residential area, 1 as well as on the stair/ramp areas and at the transition point between the center and the Bullocks store. Mr. Cabrol answered Member Weinstein that he did uct deli n the Stanford shopping :.enter Bullocks store; they are very ei.fferer.t . Yer.b_r Weinstein asked if there was any of getting a more. Spanish flavor hera. Mr. Cohrol felt that the Spanish design was becoming e l ic,he'. Mr. Cabroi said the sign wili be intcbrated int.; the fascia. J - _ A HIMTES OF THE AUGUST 7, 1974 U--CO TROL MEETING la C-113 l'eae ll Member Dressler said he. lives the geometric shape of the Bullocks building; it tends to follow the geometric shape of the overall center with the exception of Pennys and Seara. Mr. Michael Painter, of Painter and Associates, landscape archi- tects, stated that the landscaping is planned so that as , -)u pass the center you will not appear to see seas of automobiles. The view from the freeway will be soft, with the wall of redwood trees largely obscuring the shopping center. There will be groupings of trees within the parking lot. Re said this plan has 50 to 75% more landscaping in the center than in the Stanford shopping cen er. Earth berming will take place in spaces not less than 10' wide and at times going to 25' in width. The planting along Wolfe Road will utilize the same evergreen ash that exists there now. The median strip •dill be widened and evergreen ash will be put in the center of it along with sore lo-w3r shrubbery. Another special element of Obis p rking lot is the way you swing into the parking lot. He demo:: ---at.ed this an the s-ite plan. They are thinking of low water i="4s at the entrances from Volfe Foad. The low profile will mean the tress will assume the vertical scale of the stores. The tress are a very significant elentent. The parking lots are-divided In :1a7 f by 25' medians. There will be sidewalks along `OoNEe Road as well as bus stops with benches underneath the shade of the bridge. The same trees swing into the thooping center from the street. As to the 25' buffer adjacent to the residential, Mr. Painter said there will be a precast masonry wall, and the residents could also have their own fences. Vallco.Park is pre- sently negotiating with P.G. & E. for removal of the utility poles and those wires will go underground. The bicycle traffic will be separated from the automobile traffic . Hx. Walter Ward answered Member Koenitzer that they had another study done which revealed they should Nava a 6 to 8' solid Hall to buffer the sound. The Sears wall will be raj=•ed to 8'. There followed a discussion about the sound wall. An acoustical engineer had explained it in depth at the Planning Comission hear in g. 11is roconirtendation was a s )lid , 8' wall. Mr. Ward said they would like to construct the 8' vall on their property from Stevens Creek Blvd. to the freeway immediately so it will be done prior, to construction of the- center. !YC-113 MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 7, 1974 R-CONTROL RmTiNG Page ,12 w 40 , IMr. Nicholas Ti.mashenka, 19�30 Pi,.rritt Drive, Cupertino, asked if IMerritt Drive will be cul.-de-sac'd or it will be an opening to the Icenter. He would prefer that it be closed off. lair. Wart said they would prefer not to have=Merritt or,t►raherst ,;opened beeausw,;"t .x, wound- become a police problem for •tli mo The Associate Pleaus t�16add the bicycle path issue was brought up as a convenience neighbors. If they don't want it, this is a statement the H-Control Committee could transmit to the City Council Mr. Timashenka said he did not think Merritt Drive could accommodate bicycle lanes,-- _ Air. Ti•mashenka stated that in Ordinance No. 2550 one of the ori.glnal concepts of V'allco Park in regard to :weight of buildings was the line-of-sight approach. The &uilocks store is 30' high and 85' from the property line. Mr. herd said the line-of-sight factor referred,to building wall-to-building wall, not to property lines. The staff was asked to double-check thisi iAs to the solid stall, Member Koenitzer seid ,i.ts_ construction and !location seem to be satisfactory-. Hg asked for .comments:from, the audience. 'There dare none. iAfoved ty Member. Dressler, ,secor¢c^d by.-teauber %4 nstei.z to cortinue s lthe pub.iic heartup on application �'.C-51,0 5.�4 to 8:30 P.M. an, Fr .day, ',,u; usr- 9, 1974. This motioa ;:as tabled in order r_y,make {arriche.. motion. f wallMoved by Xembe.r Dre.sslec, �;Ac•.aded by Member°Weinstein, at the , .;T.l.rov ad lappiicant 's request, to ra,�omualead to. the City ,Counr-il apptova of the :pall portion of appl.icat'_on FiC-51,075.40 as presented, according r' z t ien a)_o^.g I t, the location on the site plan, to be constructed of. ptecast materials 280 ias prqsented in the exhibit, with the following conditions: ITl;at the sound wall be a sound barrier at the property line, from lFreewa;: 280 to the southern term3.:nur; Pear Stevens Creek Bled. , with no breaks for plantings, bicycle 1MLha or pedestrian walkways. That the Sears wall shall have 2 or 3 courses added to achieve the ultimate height of 8' . !That portion of the sound .gall along the property line a . Vreeway 260 sliall be ds:ferL-ed until further sound studies are comf.TzLed. I ?AYES. Members Dressier, Weinstein, Vice-Chair-r4-1r. KoenitTer f NOES: None :ABSE:Nl:: Ci;ai_rmaa Sallan ;lotion carried, 3--0 I s a 's . M.LNM£S OF TIM AUGUST 7 s 1914 'H-CO'O'- !*�-E�i�tG page 13 ADJOV.'tit I:'t"T Ma =d by "s 1c=.►:,.:, Dressler, seco Ided by Pfebex [deixfst�in to A� usatu9,e HC continued •J the public hearing, rr. app;.iCation H�-vra,ed5.40 to Friday, to 8f9l74 1974, at S:30 P.�;. This Meeting; ad3aurn�d at i2:45 A. I. Motion carried, 3-0 1 AppROVED: C. Nancy an, C irwoman . a"iT:�ST Wm. Ryd , MY Cler:c Q } y rc y t� t.x CITY OF CUPERT124J, STATE OF CALIVC."XIA � HC-ilt� 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertinn, California 95014 , Page 1 Tole-phone: 252-4505 40 hS. OF Ta E REGUI," 511XG .OF .THE .ARCHITE0UUL AND SITE. AperOVAL C014MITTEE HZLO ON JUKE,19, 1974 IN THE PWHING DEPART- WAT, CITY MALL, CUPERTtiot CALIFORNIA The,mpet...ng was opened at 7:00 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan. ROLL CALL Nepbers present: Dressler,; Rogers, Weinstein, .Chairwoman Sallan Meubers absent: Koenitzex Stuff prey• nt: Senior Planning Technician. Toby Kramer TXFORMAL REVI&I OF PLANNED DEVEI.OP:IWNT USE PERM ': APPLICATIONS: - 21 U-74 Vista Construction (Raclin A MacDonald): Constructioa ; of an 18-unit cluster project located westerly of and adjacent:. to,Vista Drive approximately 260 feet north of Stevens Creek Boulevard. The Senior Planning Technician exhibited plan and located site for the committee members. She noted this is one of the first applications,coming in under new use permit process No. 618, so zoning has been approved and would not have site plan flexibility. Chairwoman Sallan noted there were no architectural renderings or schematic lAndscaping plans. She also noted it would be helpful to have site outlined so the committee could orient to perimeter properties.. Ms. Kramer said this was being worked toward. It-was agreed that the south boundary of property having driveway so close to property line precludes to large extent any meaningful planting. Chairwoman Sallan noted her concern with property lines It is either fencing or weds. Member Dressler suggested moving alteniate units back S or 10 feet and increasing Iandscaping,ir, front. This would correct rigidity of the line as you loot: at units from Vista which was a concern of the committee. Member Dressler also suggested creating a cul-de- sac. HC-110 Mlt9MS OF THE JUNE 19, 1974 H-CONi TROL NWWG Page 2 :. Chairwoman Salla<n noted there were concerns that migglkt require revision of site plan. A discussion v hcild bn methods of landscapi*'`both'sidetC�it'-khe petimaier 'tenet zig,nr walls on-future appl eationa'. T-he F M0111ty of asking (r4ner to move wall or fence-in S' t® 10 feet ki6i big sir: line and planting on outside was discussed. 20-U-74 20-U-74 Bruce Ldwarjs, Mini Stoiage'on Navy Avenue and•7T.-280. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out the committee is not permitted to make any discussion on validity of use. It was ascertatned•these' units would be re-Atee. `'the Seniot #166nins Technician displayed the site plan and' exist r g land6d6ping 440','r pointed out. It was noted that all salvageable trees would be saved. The main concern of the committee was that the layout of storage buildings should be positioned in such a way as to provide absolute, screening fgam al$`¢grits titers: This'msy v81 relacet air ar, . elimination of buildings. APPROVAL Of' 'MINMS:': . 11dutes of June 5, 1974 Minute of It was moved by Mether Rogers, seconded by Member Dressler, to 5/5/74 ap.:rove Minutes of Jsnd 51 1914 as submitted. spproved as submitted Nffs3'tion carried, 3-0 Abstain: • Weinstein 4 POSTPONEMUTS None Ms. Itramer reported there was sn addition to the agendas The Golden State Title Company requesting change of copy. It was agreed to hear this under Review of Change of Copy of Sign Face on agenda. r WRITTEN cON 11-TNICATIONS - None ORAL C412,MtdICA.TIONS - None MINUTES OF THE ,JUKE 19, 1974 M-CONTROL. MEETING Page 3 PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. Discussion of Sign Ordinance It was agreed by the committee to hear the requests for change of copy of sign face first. REVIEW OF CHANGE OF COPY OF SIGN FACE: Cal-Coast Sign Company (Old West Steak House) requesting change Old West of copy of an existing sign located at 10041 N. Saratoga-Sunnyvale Steak House Road. Continued from H-Control meeting of June 5, 1974. The Senior Planning Technician gave background of application. The request wuj to change background of sign to red with white letters. The committee had indicated its desire not to see any more red signs as they felt the intensity of illumination was too much. The applicant was asked to return with an alternate. Air. Vernon Pittroff, Cal-Coast Sign Co., said his client was a little difficult to communicate with. He has been in business for many years on this corner. He has an old sign that is a faded yellow. In the last six months - Bob's Big Boy was granted a red sign and his client's business had dropped off significantly so he wants a red sign also. The intensity would not be anything like Bob's Big Boy. Mr. Pittroff said he had tried to sell his client on another color. He said if the committee'would till him they were never going to issues a permit for another rpd e s in the City of Cupertino he would just accept it and walk out. But it is such a sim, _e thing that his client is asking for. Chairwoman Sallan gave a brief explanation of the committee's feelings with regard to red signs, noting problems that had been engendered by them. She referred to resolution going to the City Council entitled, 1°Interim Measures to Re.>ulate Signing Until Final Sign Ordinance Can Be Adopted". Ma—_erials and colors are covered in item 3 which says colors should be the warm earth tones rather than the flashy colors. - Mr. Pittroff said he could envision ten years from now, looking down the street and seeing nothing but brown poles with dark -ices. It defeats the entire purpose of advertising. Member Weinstein noted he would rather have muted signs than bright signs and Mr. Pittroff said there should be a medium. 81 f KC-110 A nWTES OF THE JUNE 19, 1a74 U-CONTROL MEETING Page ;$ Chai.wonar Sallan ascertained that the committee members had seen the existing sign. She asked each member to state their,commente.,as far as accepting or not accepting the change. t Member Dressler said it was a small sign that was already in pla.--e and he was not_,opposed Lo it. Member Rogers said she could see his concerts as a husinesdmen and if the intensity were reduced, she could go along with it. Merl--3r Weinstein said he didn't want red for Bob's Big Boy and he Isn't taking it now. There is no evidence that changing sib will make any difference to busiA_c s. He can't justify that red wifl enhance the business in any way. He was not in favor of changing sign to red. Mr. Pittroff and Member,Weinstein then discussed whether,or not, a sign made any difference to a restaurant`business. Chan, magi, Sallan noted auother.f act or�was the height of the sign. Bob's Big Boy is lower and attracts attention mare quickly than the higher :sign. She thinks sign s-ingre, attractive;as. it,.,is than what�,i.s being .proposed. She didn't,geex,that, changing to '-red mould necessarily solve his problem and it wouldn't solve her problem or the Clty's. Mr. Pittroff said he felt this was discriminatory and arbitzar-v He noted.it was called a change of copy,,b►t was really only'..a; change of color. Old Test A vote was. taken on whetter or not to allow the change. Steak House change of € AYES: Members Dressler and Rogers sign denied AGES: Nember Weinstein and Chairwoman.Sallan Mptioa denied, 2-2 Mr. Pittroff asked what the :text recourse was. .ie said he had lost so much money already that as a matter of principle he was going to take it as far as he can tAe It. The Senior Planning Technician then explained the next steps Mr. Pittroff should rake in appealing the decision. Golden Stag The Senior i'latraing Technirian noted a ieq•,est .film Golden State Title Co. Title Company iu the Cali shop:, for change of cop- . She showed . _ some pictures of existing sign. The sign wauld be White letters on black background. The sign ,All not be illuminated. k r � 161 F MINUMS OF THE JUNE 19, 1974 H-ConnoL mmG BC-110 Page 5 V was moved by Member Dressler, seconded by Member Rogers, to Golden State. approve change of copy as per Exhibit A. Title Co. { ,"I ; approved AYES. Menhers Dreoslet, Rogsrs4 Weinstein, Vhaiawoman Sa114p, NOES: None Mat .on carried, 4-0. UNFINISHED BUSINESS Discussion of Sign Ordinance Sign Ordivanc Membez We,nstein was briefed as to what had been discussed and Discussion decided at the meetings f-r'dW which he was absent. Ct airwoman Sallan askedt.o have materials packeted and sent to each c umrittee''member so, they could study information available. It was votes the Commis"sign V"oezl'd be looking at Review Committee, and word gotten out to citizens-at-large to apply. The committee then agreed to continue discussion,of Sign Ordinance to next meeting. NEW BUSINESS F Meneber Dressler exhibited article from newspaper relating to Newspaper expanding c ;apt*Pr or appointing ir- architect to this committee. article It was reported fc, consensus of th -z Council was that they did not want to Enlarge com"nittee from five members. They indicated they thought it was a good idea to have somecne from the business community on ASAC and if there were openitzgs 'in' the future, they would be happy to have someone from the business community offer to se rve. A member of the business community said almost every decision mad by the ASAC affected the business community, who feel they are not being represented at the ASAC level. Chairwoman Sallan said the purpose of the ASAC was not necessarily to have that point of view represented on the board. The purpose of the ASAC was to have lay people who will reflect the thinking from the perspectiv of the people who live in the City. This particular board is visually oriented. There was further discussion regarding the ® philosophy of signing from a business standpoint - which is us, s d MI NUTES INUTES Off' THE AXE 19, 1974 0--C'DXTR L t�iEETING Parge signing is to he used for advertising, and from the viawpmirt• of ASAC, uiiich is that signing is for identification. z'd'a s% Homestead Rd. Chairaonan Sall-an called the attention of staff to a tank can tank Homestead Foad h,16► L44 tbr&l&y znai table.. !S-.,;Kraa21 saidt= they were aware of this and it was under advisement. L ibhtinn Member �a�e.s re erredio-`li hting intcnsity and questioned hos inteasity ; this could be m_:de a standard condition. A brief discus-,Ion on this followed. Ad; ourmrn-2nL } At 10:00 p.m., It was unanimously agreed to adjourn the me9tIh,9 to the next regular meeting on July 3, 1974 at 7:00 p.m. "PROVED: C.z; �an+ey•Sal GIrait , ' ATTEST., ' t •Ann. h'. R er, City Clerk d �.f _�«.: y CM OF CUPERTINO, SPA OF CALIFORNIA VC-I26 • 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Page 1 Telephone: 252-4503 MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED MEEILNG OF THE AXHITEMR@AL Alm SITE APPROVAL C0144ITTEE HELD ON AUGUST 9, 1974 :IA THE COUNCIL CWMER, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was opened at Fs:37 P.M. by Vice-Chairman Koenitzer with the Salute to the riag. ROLL CALL Members present: Dressler, Weinstein, Vice-Chai;°man Koenitzer Member absent: Chairman Sallan Staff present: Associate Planner Cowan PUBLIC HEARING Application HC-51,075.40 of Vallco Park, Ltd. requesting approval of site, architecture, grading and conceptual_ landscaping for the regional shopping center includiing,Bullack's and J. C Penney located southerly of and adjacent to Freeway Route 280 at its intersectior with Wolfe Road, extending southerly on the westerly side of Wolfe Road from said Freeway on the easterly side of Wolfe Road to Vallco Park [day. (Continued from meeting of August 7, 1974) Mr. Walter Ward, General Manager of Vallco Park, asked the Coimnitt-.ee to please direct their attention to the Bullock's area first in case there is not time enough to solve all the problems. Member Dressler said he is not in opposition to the Fashion Hub and likes the idea of having the center in this community. His concern centers around how the stores are going to be tied together; e.g. , how he will feel when he enters the Bullock's store on the ground floor and how he will feel on the Penney's site Vice-Chai-m- an Koenitzer said as far as the landscaping and grading are concerned, they are secondary to his main concern of the noise generating from the trucks in relation to the .adjacent residential. rMY f < C-l14 MNUTEd OF THE AUGUST 9, 197% AD30IiMM 1L--C6 OL XMMO age 2 Mr.. Thomas Branch, of tfelton Becket b Associates, said he was representing the Bullock's store. He stated the north and hest eieJations will be predominately cedar. 80Z o¢ the wall surface is exterior plaster over block. They are using earth tone colors. The southwest elevation, where it intercepts the,malt, elevation, will be concrete board as a transition,, Colors will reflect the colors used in the remainder of the center. The downstairs entry, under the parking lot, will have a glassed in escalator lobby which goes to the chain mall. Mr. Ralph Butterfield, of Wurster, Bernardi and Esmnonds, said there will be elevators at all three main entry points for the handicapped. The lobby formed around the escalators resembles a jewel box. The entire area will have natural light. The fourteen foot high ceiling over the covered parking areas will have suspended -.coustical ceilings with recessed lights, Member Weinstein said he does not see where the visitors to the center can calk outdoors. He asked If there is any place to walk other than in the parking lots. Mr. Branch answered that there will be no outside sales at the Bullock's store. Bullock's is providing a restaurant in a sunken exterior court. There is a rambling walkway to the west of Bullocks. Member Feinstein asked how Bullock's relates to the existing Sears store. Mr. Branch said they compliment one another but do not copy one.a<other. The three major stores: Bullock's, Sears and Penneys, are handled'some- what differently to avoid monotony. Member Dressler asked how a customer would leave Bullock's and go ,to the bus stop. Mr. Butterfield said they would go directly along the ground level crosswalk to the ground level bus stop at the Tenney lobby.area. He added that there are over' 110,000 square feet of mall with planting as well as the outdoor planting Mr. Michael Painter, of Xieh^c : Painter and Associates, said that the exterior walking systez rousists of a sidewalk parallel to either side of Wolfe Roaca. Around the interior road there is a 9' wide bicycle path. Bicycle parking areas will be developed. There will be a pedestrian movement system -onnected through a trellis structure. This will include benches along the walkways. There will be a greenhouse and a nursery at the northwest end of the property, up near Freeway 280. Member Weinstein posed the question: suppose you want to spend the day shopping at this Center, He was looking for an outdoor spot, with landscaping, benches, and perhaps some water movement. He felt the logical place for this would be in the mall area. r. Painter said that just north of Sears there will be educational courts in the skylighted areas from Sears to Bullock's. Member Weinstein said he would still like to see some outside treatment between Bullock's and Penreys. MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 9s 1974 ADJOURN® R-CONTROL MEETINP -114 gage 3 Mr. Butterfield said they are going to develop climate controlled outdoor areas. They will have all the elemates of night and day, sunshine and overcast w1thout the rain. Mr. Ward added that because of the climate control of the mall you can not have an opening unless there are glass doors at both ends-and yoii would have to have an alternate route in rainy weather. Mr. Butterfield said this proposal shows 8.5 acres of a landscaped area. There will be a 36' strip of landscaping along Wolfe Road. Member Weinstein said the climate controlled mall takes away from the naturalness. He wants to see somerthing that gets him outdoors while at the shopping center. Mr. But`f.rfield cautioned the Committee that the footprint has already been approved by the City Council as to the general concept for the Use Permit. Member Weinstein said he is not so inclined to approve very much of this shopping center until he can see a plan for some natural outdoor environment. He feels that something like the Stanfd-d Bullock's store would tie in better here with the existing Sears store. Mr. Branch answered Vice-Chairman Koenitzer that Bullocks' signs are basically for identification and are not dasigned to attract attention. They will be installed on the soffit. Member Welinstei said that 3' high letters are more than the Architectural and Site Approval Committee would feel was necessary. He asked why they decided on this type architecture rather than something like the Stanford shopping center building. Mr. Branch said that they believe they have come up with something compatible in style and design for this center. The Stanford store is free standing. It is a steel frame building with exterior concrete block walls. Member Bressler was concerned about the intercepting of the roof line. Bullock's has a wide overhang and the rest of the shopping center does not. Mr. Butterfield demonstrated how it will tie in with the bridge element . Mr. Ward said Vallco Park has acquired the sights to raise the height of the Sears wall. They have no control over the land- scaping or materials of the Sears store. Member Dressler said he would like to see Sears tie in better with the function of the mall or else to see the Shopping Center moved away from Sears. Mr. Butterfield said here is a glassed in area with high canopy. It is a main entrance to the mall and the high ceiling Sears. They are making a volumetric entrance here that is 8' higher than the heigh'_ of the mall. Member Weinstein said he thought that it was a waste of material. ROM� <s '�x, �^"' k7 C-114 MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 9, i974 ADJOURM R-CQ*Ml. MET7C 3G .age 4 A recess was called at 10:15 P.M. The meeting reconvened at =10:30 P.M. Member Weinstein said he i,=as not convinced that the major entrance to the mall at Sears needed to be 8' higher. Mr. Butterfield said this-,is also an activity area. There will be trees growing inside which can't be accomplished in the 12' high area. Vice-Chiirmatn Yoenitser agreed that this will give some visual relief. Fir, Painter said that in order to develop landscaping of any significance it is absolutely essential to have this height inside the building. Member Weinstein brought up the matter of the tinted glass. He wondered if it will let the light rays in that are necessary for plant growth. Mr. Painter said he will check into this further. The grading plan was discussed next. Mr. Butterfield described the grading plan on the east side of Wolfe Road, from Freeway 280 to the Penneys store. W. Ward said the Penney's people feel that it is preferable for their customers to enter the store at grade level. Mr. Dressler said he wars not canvinred"-that a 56 grade is desirable for the parking lot. The discussion turned to the grading on the west side of Oolfe- Road. Immediately north of the Bullock's store there will be a 30" high berm, 15' wide, and landscaped so the cars in the parking lot .Till be obscured. Mr. Butterfield answered Member Dressler that the parking lot under the mall, between Sears and Bullock's is 174 below the ground level'of- Sears. There is less than a 10% gradient on the ramps going over Wclfe'Road. Mr. Heidrik, President of Bullocks, said this CoBaaittee has asked some very interesting and appropriate. questions. This is the 1001I,Bull.ock's store he has been involved with. He said that he has a lot of confidence in Pierre Cabrol, his architect. He believes this design is the most compatible with the residential area. He said he could appreciate this Committee's efforts to try to get something that is not only attractive today but will also be attractive 40 yeirs from now. Moved by Member Dressler, seconded by Member Weinstein to recommend to the City Council approval of that portion of application HC-51,075.40 dealing with the Bullock's department store. This approval is for the architecture of the store and the grade plans west of Wolfe Road. The approved architecture is presented on Exhibits B5, Bb. A4 & grading plan on Exhibits D and D1. The intent of this motion is to deal with that element o._ the site plan and to recommend approval of the location of the Bullock's store. This motion is subject to the standard conditions of the Architectural and Site Approval Committee. V MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 9, 1:974 AnJO- WILD ii-CONTROL XMIN1~a A Jii�-11.4 AYES: Norabers Dressler, Veinstein, 'ice--Chairman Koenit:aer r NOES: None ABSENT: Cha irtuin Sa llan Notion Carrie-do 3-0 It was noted that this will be on the City Council's August 19, 1974 Agenda. There followed a discussion on the north wall of Penreys store. Mr . Butterfield asked if Member Dressler still feels that the 5% gradient vas too high. fie as::ed if there was cuncern as to how it would loot: from the highway. IMember Dressler said that the percent -of grade is incidental.. Sarre people right have trouble walking so f-ar fro-; the parking lot to the entrance of the stare. lie questioned whether all our citizens are willing and have the strnina to do this. In reg 4to the irk Branch asked if it is possible when this ca*:,l tee revic is they-signs if. they could also rev zw the ertr PSI. `+ice � rman Koi!titzer said' tt -.s 'r-as all right. '�`, r signs are not that essential to t.teir business'.`" Vice--Chairman nenitzer said he does nvt care for the M..ouniing. If it has to be a 20% change in elevaeior. lie would like Fto see it tapered rather than squaring it off with retaini.na 4:alls'., Vice-Chairman l oenitzer said he wants the "Dog Hose",-af tbe- Penney's roof. lie cants to see the air conditioning out of sight on both stores. lie said we started out a:ith the concept, of a two story building ►-:ith one sunl: in the ground and now we ha'.•e• two stories above. ground. Member Weinstein agreed with those comments and said he was hopeful that we would get %Ahat appears to be a one story building. Nr. Butter`ieI.d noted that Penneys has not yet -made their presentation. Vice-Ch:lii:::iall told the applicants t;:at this Co:-zittte: is not intcre.ste:i in a sign i:jat is advert-,icing to the Freet•:ay. The Associate. Plnraer asked th:. Corimittee if they were happy with the data presented at: tho last. r:.eetir.; in regards to the number of p nrking s1acQs and size-4 of parking spaces. Nember Weinstein said he is not co rvinecd the co:anzct csrs will always use the :;iaaller spaces, Ile would i .il:e to see some data substantiating the Dracla.,tar. Syrto-.i. Tice-Cha.irnar, agreed. tie said he was alsn concerned about many of the cc-upact spaces under the buildi.nt;s. Any additional data. on the Itraclt„ n System will be appreciat..d. 4 * Lam_ tt3 try ) y�7 i'L�sf /.n q t /... - "t.14 1a ii':�JC J d ta: AYPJG.i 9S ,i974 "ID" oumix� IL—CONTROL �!T„ETTIN`i ?age try.i S Menber Bressler said its proposal v.-as to as!: the City Council to roviev Rogers' r-e"gimt4an axtcl,.ewpnts leading up to it, then interviFa "SOL-bar Rogers before 'acting on it. Moved by Hem-bet Weinstein, seconded by Member Dressler:to c.-or►t;nod the public hearing on zpplication IC--51,0i5.40 to the nc:_t regular.zooting. Motion carried, 3-0 ADJOUILNM N"r Vice--Chairman Koeni.t'zer .adjourned the -meeting at 11:45 P.M. APPP.OVED: C. Narcy S 1I n, C ,ofrntvn ,ATTEST: ova. E. Pyd y City Clark t f. CI.2'Y Or Cukiri da 75TATE OF CALIFORNIA rRC 115 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino sage i Telephone; 252-4505 P9LWITES OF THE REGw-AR nvi.`iNC Or TKE ARCHITECTURAL JUND SATE APPROVAL COMMITTEE HELD (W AUGUST 2Z, 1974 .Vl=THX COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY lU.I.I., CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA_ Y , SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was called to order by Chairman Sallan ,at 7:15 P.M. ROLL CALL Members p;:esent: Dressler, Koenitzer, Weinstein (7:30) ar-e. . ' Chairman. Sallan Member, absent; Rogers Staff rresent: Associate Planner Cowan,, S%ior,,Pla nin& Technician.Toby 'Kramer-' APPROVAL OF MIM. TES: Minutes of July 3, 1974 Member Koenitzer will submit his corrections to the July 3rd Minutes to the July 3rd secretary. Chairman Sallan reserved the right to submit her corrections at a later date since she did not have them along with her, Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Chairman.Sallan to cbntinue the approval of the minutes ofJuly 3, 1974 to the next regular meeting. Motion carried, 4-0 POSTPONEMENTS: hone Nd4ITTEN COMPIt3NICATIONS : Hone I OTIL41 COMI MUNICATIONS: Noi,e c I ON S 3tC-i15 MIHuTF.S OF THE AUGUST ,21, 1974 REGULAR H-CORMOL . IN °age 2 OLD BUSINESS Chairman Sallan wanted to discuss a policy for future mening tom. Member Dressler ss.d.1 that after Gabor Day and until Chi rietses if at all possible, he would like the meeting nights changed from Wednesdays to �Thursdayr because he will be teaching a course at San Jose State on Wednesday nights. Member Koenitzer was in favor of changing from September through June, but Chairman Sallan preferred to do this on a temporary basis at first. Mr. Will Lester, past: Chairman of the Safety Commission, said that group quite frequently meets on the 1st and 3rd Thursday and this could cause problems for citizens wishing to attend both Safety Commission and H-Control meetings. After further discussion, the staff said they saw no problem in changing the meetings to Thursday nights. iXo-,ed by Member Dressler, seconded by Ne caber Koenitte'r that the ,.Architectural and Site Approval Committee has agreed to :..net oil the Lst land 3rd Thursday following the City Council meetings each month for ra Iperiod of six months as a temporary measure as a convenience to its (member.s. Motion carried, 4-0 49 i Member Koenitze: brought up the fact that a meeting should be scheduled o discuss the data to be submitted by Mr. Cotpman for landscaping;of Saratoga-,Sunnyvale Road. He also said that a Sign Review Committee ;mesting is scheduled for September 11, 1974. After discussion, Chairman Sallan said the Committee'6rould meet with kr.. Col man at 7:30 P.M. on September 16, 1974. There followed a discussion on the composition of the Sign Review 'Committee. The Staff will be sending out a follow up letter on this. IChairr..an Sallan asked the Committee members to write down coacments and Sisubaait them to tie staff regarding future discussion areas for the agenda. a?rmau Sallan asked what happened to the plaque for Juanita McLar<en. The staff w8s requested to check on this. C",airm. do Sallan said she would 4like the Mayor to present this plaque tc Mrs. Mc Laren. Fhairman Sallan was not comfortable faith the landscaping at both the i?umbleaerry and the Marie Csliender restaurants. MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 21,, 1974 RED 1_4K *-,C0NrPQL M=Mr, KC-]i5 Page 3 Chairman Sallan said the light standards of the Big Boy Restaurant and =Bank of America are supposed to be the saute. Chairman Sallan said she would like to see the cobble'stoll3s in the med$am strip broken up and planter squares out in, Chairman Sallan requested the Committee think about whether developers-should be required to put in one variety of trees along their frontages. Chairman Sallan 'would like to reprioritize the Agenda. At 7:00 P.M. there should be discussion of City Business, after the informal reviews. At 7:30 P.M. the Public Hearings on applications should begin and they should finish up Unfinished Business and New Business after 11:30 P.M. when the Public Hearings are closed. PUBLIC HEARINGS 1. Application HC-51,259.8 of Portal Plaza Shopping Center. requesting approval of a landscaping plan for Phase 1 of the modification to the existing shopping center. Continued from H-Control meeting of August 7, 1974. The Senior Planning Technician said the applicant was requested to come back with a plan for mounding the landscaping along Stevens Creek Blvd. and Portal Avenue frontages. They have now removed the junipers on Stevens Creek Blvd. and replaced that area with mounding and taller shrubs to screen the parking lot. In order to save the existing trees they are proposing undulating mounding. A certain flat portion should be provided for future bicycle paths. Attorney James Miller, 352 South Murphy, Sunnyvale, said he was representing the applicant and the developer. They have decided since this is an important issue and the fact that they can salvage most of the existing irrigation and the existing trees, that they will do this. In order to properly maintain a mounding it should be reduced to 2' . Member Koenitzer said he liked the undulating mounding effect. This would leave 40' of 3' high mounding if you drop down to grade level around the trees. Mr. Miller advised it should be dropped down from 2' mounding to ground level of the trees. He said that 6' to 10' trees will be hand picked by the designer to be placed along Stevens Creek Blvd. Member Dressler said he subscribes to the 2' high mounds because the 3' mounds at McClellan Square appear to be pointed at the top. a t WPM, l- HC-11S I�€IMJTES OF'Tlit AVWa 21; -1974 tkWtAi I-COM6L ftEftW Page 4 Mas Doi, 1331 Miller Avenue, San Jose, the landscape architect said that after the comments .of the last; meeting he ha$ eliMliwted' the V high shrubs and included a taller variety. The Associate Planner cautioned that there could be a safety problem if the shrubs are too high. Chairman Sallan said this crime prevention situation needed to be studied more thoroughly. Chairman Sallan said there appears to be some irregularity on the setting of the plants in the drawing. Mr. Doi answered that they vary from 6' to 7` apart, They will make a dense screen. Directly behind the Liquid Amber, existing trees, he was advised to put something besidesthe` IS" high ground cover b; the Liquid Amber trees. Mr. Doi said there is beauty in the deciduous trees without leaves and if you put too many evergreens there yoi will lose the affect. After further discussion, Mr. Doi said he would add the requested shrubs. Chairman Sallan said she would like to have the extra plants along Portal (Avenue as well as Stevens Creek Blvd. Mr. Doi said that from aesthetic standpoint this would be monotonous. Member Koenitzer agreed. Chairman Sallan asked for comments from the audience. There .were none. M- ov-:.i by Member Dressier, seconded by Member Koenitzer to close the public hearings Motion Carried, 4-0 Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Dressler. to recommend to the ICity Ccuncil approval of application'HC-51,259 6 for the landscaping as proposed in Exhibit C, first revision with the condition that the mound be --educed to 2' in height and shaped so as to not impair the growth of the existing trees along Stevens Creek Blvd. All shrubs on Stevens Creek Blvd. and Portal Avenue shall be 5 gallon size and all trees shall be 15 gallon size as stated in the landscaping guidelines, resolution. number 34. CiS; Membars Dressler, Koenitzer, We- stein, Chairman Sallan NOES: done `ABSEFT: Member 'Rogers Motion carried, 4rO y ?t MINUTES OF TFX AUGUST` 21, 1974' NEWLARt K-•C0 G M, IS ale S 2, Application HC"51075.44 of Vallco Park, Ltd, reauestin¢ approval of rite, archit°et:ture, grading anit conceptual land- scaping for the regional shopping center Iodated southerly of and adjacent to Freeway 280 at its intetsection with Wolfe Road, extending southerly on t3ie westerly side of Wolfe Road from said Freeway to Stevens Creek Boulevard and extending southerly from said Freeway on the easterly aide of Wolfe Road. to Vallco Park Way. Continued from H trol meeting of August 9, 1974. Member Koenitzer' asked for a 2 minute recess to retrieve his things from the car. Member Weinstein questioned whether it would be wise to review the. entire shopping center plan at this meeting since the configuration and the location of the shopping center may be changed considerably. The Associate Planner raid this question was diacbssed at the City Council meeting on the 19th. The City Attorney ruled that the H-Control process should proceed but the is6be should stop at the City Council level until after the November crate. Mr. Walter Ward said the City Council did adopt a petition to put the Vallco Park Regional Shopping Center on the ballot in November. The Use Permit is not revoked but is rather s::spended at the ® Council level. He said the City Council passed a Minute Order that H-•Control should hear this application. The Vallco attorneys have. instructed him not to yield to other applications as they have done in the past but rather to get on witi; the business at hand. Recess was called at 8:22 P.M. Meeting reconvened at 8:31 P.M. The Associate Planner said he wro-:e a letter to Vallco Park asking for additional data and answers to questions of this Committee.. The Committee has received these data. One question is the relationship of this project with the City and Costnty bike path routes. He then went over the bike path routes cps on the bulletin hoard. The bike path system being proposed by the shop- ping center is basically for the center. He state that putting bike paths along Wolfe Road mould encourage bicycle traffic there and the problem is the overpass over Freeway 280. Member Koenitzer wondered if there were some way to get bicycles over the Freeway with a separate bicycle/pedestrian overcrossing. The Associate Planner s,:ated something like this is planned at Mary Avenue. He further stated that the Tantau overcrossing will be designed to include a bike path. There is possibility of linking Blaney Avenue to the shopping center via the flood control channel. L t 73,� �. f''a �`i'. 7ra HC-115 P4YNUTES OP THE AUGUST 210 lW4 REM- PA,P-CMTROL P!€P.l+Tl Page b Member Dressler said we have had requests from,residents in. Sobta, Mara for sidewalks through Vallto Park so they could walk to the--tares. The Committee was informed, the Director of Public Works was vvitlug a letter to the residents of the area. The Associate Planner said this Committee has approva-d. the design and ylocation of the sound wall on the northwest portion of the property. iThe wall along tl^e Freeway has been deferred for additional acoustical data. The siting, design, materials and grading of the Bulleek's development have been approved by this Committee. Mr. Ralph Butterfield, of Vurster, Bernardi and Emmonds, said he would like to discuss the design of the shops, gxa�:ng, parking and the con- ceptual landscape plan. t Chairman Sallan said the major concern of this Committee is the design of the development as it apptArs from the public streets. Mr. Butterfield said basic materials are precast, warm tone,concrete, good, and brick. There is a 4-' overhang that goes around the entire building. The soffit is resawn redwoor. The bronze arnodized aluminum f iadow frames will have solar glass. The service. corridor has had` 1,7indows added, They Nave. delineated significant poi ts of activit such Eas courtyards and main entry points with muck: hi ,her ceilings. They rave vestudied the grading in the axes of Pemneys and have lowerrd it If foir 510 to a of %. They have created a combination ramp anti I stair*xay to a verarda or comou area from which you enter either, ftunays [or the mall. Thexe is a grade differential of 21' ircin Freeway 280 to `the highest point of Perreys and 14' fror: Wolfe Road. Mr. Butterfield said that previously they had a balanced cut and fill. It now appearo there taay be some carryout of soil, which means-trucks will have to move thr�:)ugh certain areas. M1-. Butterfield said the service area will be under the shops and shielded from Wolfe Road. IChairman Sallan said she is not as concerned about elevated buildings as she is about the profile she sees when she looks ai. the Pennevs elevation. �loh?. will look at cars 10' above the Freeway level . ' She is very concerned aLuut e'_euated parking. !Mr. Michael Painter, of Painter and Associates, said the problem at Sears jis the double row of Ash trees is on a 2% slope and then the grade was icstablished on the parking IvL. The retaining wall. probably looked on Ithe plan like a curb. Mr. Painter said a row of reAwood trees 12' apart is along; the Freeway. Ha believes that i.ncorporat ins shrubs with the trees should be planted on the bArn, and slopes. 1 e { d l MINUTES Oy TIM. AUGUST 21 1974 REGULAR M-CAi+"IML X=X00 ;Page 7 Chairman Sallan asked why this parking lot .can't he deg in the,,Vayl Hewlett Packard, at Homestead and Wolfe, has been done. Mr. Butterfield said they want upper and lower levels of -parking. Chairman Sallan said her main concern is to not see the parking, lot from Wolfe Road. Mr. Painter illustrated how he .could accomp- lish this - with a ret,_;1ning wall, a 2:1 slope, then a 30" retain- ing wall dropping down to the parking lot. They have used this approach for California Casualty on Alameda de Las Pulgas in San Mateo. It has been very effective. Member Koen.itzer' believes the 75.4 percent ratio is conservative over what we should have. If we find the Drachman System is not working it can Ialways be re:stripped. He sees the main problem with the Drachman System as enforcement. Chairman Sallan believes the 10% reduction in parking can be used for additional landscaping, Mr. Butterfield said 9' is the standard width for parking spaces in the industry. Cupert ino's ordinance calls for 9' S". Chairman Sallan said she has observed that a lot of the Sears parking lot is nev#-_ used. Mr Ward said that at Christmas the Sears is 2/3's ro 3/4's filled. Penney`s is concerned that we are not allowing enough parking spaces. Member Koen.itzer said a 9' 6" parking space is necessary for a tal,1' person to get ,ir. and out of his car. Px. Painter noted that in some parking lots in San Jose the spaces are 8' 3" to S' 6". Sears has 9' wide spaces. The total landscape area, excluding, Sears,, is 10.5 acres (equivalent to two neighborhood parks). The 36' of landscaping is the tightest landscaping back to the first row of cars. The increase in landscaping is basically wider areas of landscaping. The ring road now has 50' rather than 10' of land- scaping and 50% more green area with that same amount -of reduction of asphalt. The landscaped areas will be raised to help screen the cars. There is now a wooden trellis with benches and white wisteria growing on it to break the parking lots in half. On the 4 Phase Systems side the planting has been increased from 5' to 20'. Within the center the ring road, between the outer row of parking, there is a typical 25' of landscaping. We now have a lot of smaller groupings of parking areas. The 9' wide bicycle path goes from Stevens Creek Blvd. to Amherst, turns, and follows the back of the residents, drops down to the tunnel area under Wolfe Road, and comes back to Cupertino. Member Koenitzer's only real objection is the addition of 20' of landscaping to the area by 4 Phase Systems. On the west side it could provide more protection for the residents. i e r ''. *�' � # .,.4•Y,. `>.-a.. �' :� s•zFxr .ti HC-115 MIMES OF THE AUGUST 21, 1974 BECK R-COM20L 'KHETZW Page 8 Chairman Sallan's preference was for more greenery along Volfe toad behind the double rosy of trees. The least area of concern to her was aedit 4 Phase Systems. "he to concerned that going' south of the overcrossing on the west side as you approach the building, the partying is very close to Wolfe Road. She would be in favor of decreasing the landscaping and bicycle paths width in other areas in order to achieve more landscaping along tdolfe Road in this area. Member Dressler asked if it would be possible to get more landscaping around Sears if we went to 9` wide par'.ing stalls. Mr. Butterfield said they could not represent Sears without permission. Mr. Ward added that Sears wants to be a good neighbor. They are waiting to see what happens to the rest of the center. They have already agreed to replace their lights. Metuber Dressler said he would like to see something done all the way around Sears.- Chairman Sallan believes that integration of the Sears landscaping is just as important as the rest of the shopping center. She believes the frontages along Stevens Creek h.—,rd. and Wolfe Road should 1 be included in these landscape Mans. Mr. [lard said tie would speak with Ithe Sears people about this. There ;aas considerable discussion on how to handle the balance of the Agenda. Mr. Ward said he would be vill.ing to yield the bdl:Fance of the Vallco Park review to a special meeting. '.sir. Jim TeDe:t, representing the Garner property, suggested that since Septemnbar 0%.. is going to be an expanded Agendti, tbat Lhe Committee have an Adjcvrned meeting ter., say, August 29th. lir.. John Sobrato appealed to the Co.-+i ttee to hear the Westfield and the Sobrato application as son ass possible. I ! Member Weinstein said the landscaping concept for the shopping canter was quite acceptable. He would like to pursue the 9' wide parking spaces if t"is would result in significant landscaping expansion. At this point he is not sure how matt-, additional greenery will be gained through the ` implementation of the Drachman System. Further, he questions whether or, ;not it will work. Member Weinstein also wished to pursue the "outdoor area", There could even be scene shops around this. He would like to see the applicants proposal for this at the nest meeting. The third story of the Penneys building has been eliminated, Which is great. He could not find any other major aspects of this proposal that he couldn't Jive ,rich. The overall architecture is all right as loci?, as the penthouse is eliminated and the outdoor area is integrated with the .Hall, etc. , and not set off by itself. Member Dressler said be has a tough time relating to the brick color. He felt it was too dark for such a large building and would like to see some color halfway between ti e- o:-cposed brick and the slumps►.one color. He said he ;was in favor, of the ,- tapping canter but as a Committee Member he can't go out and support it. Further, Member Dressler is concerned about the rn-.d terracotta of the Sears roof. it was acknowledged that it would be difficult to change this, at this point. x.-'?: S z s•' w .r +e 1'm« . +fix .y `,`._ `. qll MINUTES OF THE AVG ti 21, 1974 REGULAR R-CONTROL V O s age•9 Member Koenitzer was concerned about the penthouse on the Fenneys store, which houses the air condicluning units. He would prefer to see this on top of the automotive wing rather then, the top of the main building. Member Koenitzer said one concern for down- stream landscaping is what 3s going to go underneath the trees that is higher than the grass. Chairman Sallan was concerned with the grading, and how it affects the concealing of the automobiles. Wolfe Road should be more of a visual relief, includin the Sears site. The western parameter needs heavy buffering. 1Ie:+ber Dressler said careful consideration should be given to the roof of these buildings because if `nallco Park builds the towers, they will loos: down on these roofs. Chairman Sallan suggested trees be placed on the roof. Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Dressler to continue application ;iC-51,075.40 to an Adjourned meeting August 29, 19'. at 7:30 P.M. , in the Library Conference Room. Motion carried, 4-0 Chairman Sallan announced the balance of the Agenda not covered at this reeting will lead off the September 4th meeting. ADJOUR21 IENT Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Dressler to adjourn this meeting at 11:45 P.M. to August 29, 1974 at 7:30 P.M. in the Library Conference Room. Motion carried, 4-0 APPROVED: C. Nancy allan, airwoman r ATTEST: Wm. . Rydte , City Cleric CITY OF CV-PERTMON STATE OF CALIFOWI BC-116 103tDO Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California Page 1 Telephone: 252-4305 MINUTES Old THE Rl M AR ADJOUZ;ED MEETING Oli THt ARCUTECTURAL'AND SITE APPROVAL CO MITTEE HELD ON AUGUST 29, 1974 IN THE LYgRAw CONFERENCE ROQH,, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA The meeting was called to order at 7:42 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan. ROLL CALL Members Present: Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwooman Sallan Members ebsent: None Staff present: Associate Planne Robert Cowah ' Chairwoman Sallan welcomed Member Rogers back. PUBLIC HEARI. Gs I. Application RC-51,075.40 of Vallco"Park; 'L"td requesting HC-51,075.40 approval of site, architecture, conceptual la'ndseaping and Vallco Park grading for the regional. shopping center located southerly of and adjacent to Freeway Route '280 at its intersiection with .Wolfe Road, extending southerly on the westerly side' of Wolfe Road from said Freeway, on the easterly side of Wolfe Road to Vallco Park Way. Continued rom H-Control meeting of August 21, 1974. Chairwoman Sallan'referred to staff summary dated August 27, 104 'and asked if there were any questions. Member Weinstein suggested the applicant might have a presentation. Member Rogers had a question on items reviewed on August 21. One question was in regard to reducing slope from 5 ft. to 3 ft. in the parking lot and what to do with the fill. Mr. Ward said there was always need for fill. Member Rogers suggested using it for berm. The Associate Planner reported there had been a late meeting that day on a blight adjustment of sound wall location on west boundary line and suggested this be discussed tonight. sg 11 -1 IBC-116 MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 29, 1976 AW. H:CONML MEETING Page 2 Member Koenitzer asked if them were samples of brick ' 14r. ButiterlifeTd said there were, and he also had slides showing materials in use. Chairwoman Sallan said remazkst should be confined to areas. that had not been previously approved. Member Koenitzer expressed concern about compact parking spaces on the aisles. He noted people park In authorized places and felt these were inviitations to larger cars to park illegally. Mr. bard said there would be a 24-hour police service- and towing cars away also discourages this. Mr. Butterfield said the raised concrete ends on aisles would also make it difficult. It was agreed this was a management problem and Vallco should insist on enforcement of proper parking. Member Rogers asked if there were spaces that would not be used except during Christmas and other peak periods. Ms. Ward said these tnitild be used for employee parking. Tennis courts had been another suggestion. He answered Member Rogers' concern that these areas would'be patrol'ted also to prevent unauthorized usage. Mr. Butterfield noted the landscape architect would be in later to speak to landscaping portions of application. Member Rogers asked about 1 to 4 ratio on wall. Mr. Cowan said he had researched zoning approval and there were no reference to he#, t-In- terms terms of conditions. He said there is an ordinance, but it 'does not ' ' apply to Planned Development :wag. Mr. Leonard ggve his recgllec- tions of what had been the Planning Commission intent at that time, Mr. Butterfield then spoke.to 21ember Weinstein's suggest ou'o£ getting outdoor space in frequency, of movement through the mall.. Thia has merit and will be kept in mod, but they are not ready to commit to design of total mail at this t . One of the themes will be to recall the orchard days of Cupertino. 'There will be growing trees and this will entail open areas. The fieal design work on mall is now being. started. There will be some sus of getting outdoors somewhere in the middle area. Mr. Ward said he had talked to the Council of Shopping Centers and one problem was that of energy. An outdoor court in an air conditioned mall would require an open air curtain or a double set of doors. It would be expensive and also require more energy consumption. After further discussion, Member Weinstein said he would want approval to be conditioned that they return with plan for outdoor area. Mr. Ward said he did not think it was in the jurisdiction of this committee to plan an interior malt; however, they were trying to address themselves to this suggestion. Kt b yr ra MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 29,, r1974. AW.,H=CONTROV MEMaAtfG ; , . VC-116 Page 3 Chairwoman Sallan said this committee has had ability_ tc >Fp ew interior but s"ate not aloes it. She felt it was approgrlate to d so with this application- because of its impact and its unique: } character to the City. Mr. Ward said they are considering an atrium approach among othr-M. He understood their concern, but it would be 'defeating the .purpoaq� , to have an air conditioned mall without an air condition or agdoole.. set of doors. Member Weinstein ascertained they were talIking_about a 20g. increase.,= in power usage. The Associate Planner noted the use permit is approved based,on this concept. A huge section being open is beyond the scope of this committee. Member Weinstein said the problem with shopping centers is that he is kept constantly indoors. This center can be enhanced by adding. a spot where one can walk outside and sit, or just walk through, but be outside. He felt a concept of this could have been prepared by now by the architects. Mr. Butterfield pointed out the outdoor dining; area offrrestaurant. ® Member Weinstein felt either the concept should go in,as condition of approval, or they should take their plans back and modify them. Mr. Ward reiterated there is not a single enclosed shopping mall,with ' open area in the United States because of reasons given. There would be an area where people could enjoy greenery but could not go into, such as an atrium. other means of achieving effect without having actual outdoor area were described by Mr. Ward and Mr. Leonard, Chairwoman Sallan said it was the feeling of the committee that this was well within the scope of the committee on this particular concept. She asked the Associate Planner if this committee had the ability to make decisions on interior of mall. Mr. Cowan said the concept of increasing the mall had been considered. This was the oasic concept that had been approved. An open mall could be sent to Council, but he did not think they could change the concept. Chairwoman Sallan said the concerns had been raised, so she would make the decision that it was within the scope of the committee. . � _�:�, , � :3+ Y.> .e• .•Y ,,,.,.�- mow ...,, �. ?z{` .kis$1i#i HC-llb wNurEs OF THE AUGUST 29, 19 4 .=41w� VzETfi Page 4 1 The char°rtvaan the oiled the coamd.ttee to "see if the felt . hould p I . y. , y,. p' ,. pursue som2`apprd'ach that would give open space urea., .,Ne6prs Ptosexs, weinstein axed'Chaitwoiean Sallat said yes, *Thers Dresajer and kci�iitaer said no. Metier koenitzer said the skylights would provide plenty of sunlight within the mall. To be able to walk through a nice landscaped area is fine, but Is -not necessary for shopping. The plans for open air, areas seems to be very adequate. Member Dressler said there was plenty of open space outside areas, There are other areas that can be developed such as the entry way` along the north side of Penney's which could be made into, an elevated garden` area, the bridge over to the restaurant'which could be widened and benches added. This would coma off the second level of mall.` ,.`... giving a chance to walk outside. Another area is the public transit at ground level. Member Weinstein said it should be open areas in the path of .th6 ..,. Shoppers. Member Rogers said she would like to see something really unusual. ' She did not think it was asking top much to have open spaces open to California's wonderful weather. ' Mr. Ward said he would like a clarification. If it is just'• open,areas where the shoppers can sit and enjoy the landscaping, these are planned. if it is something that effects the air conditiani.ng, this is, a severe change. Chairwoman Sallan suggested the' possibility be explored of having'a little schematic plan developed that would show how people could get an open air feeling without ,making major modification inside. She, referred to other areas suggested by Member Diessler., Member Koenitzer said the main walking area is the L or centerway through mall and he would object to poking a hole in there so it is open to outdoors. Landscaping around entrance or esplanade between Penney's and mall entrance is something the committee could ask for and he would expect to see this on the landscaping plans. The foot- bridge to the restaurant is a new idea. Mr. Butterfield pointed out the rooftop landscaped corner. He felt it should be an area that was already outside. Mums OF rRE AUGUST 29, 19 74 AbJ. H-CiMit Chi ME IN ;'x� "'�"' RC-?alb Page S The Associate Planner said if the vote is to be taker.- literalfig l should be cleared whether the committee is talking about char�.�� concept or adding to exterior with some type' of contact with'`the' environment. Mr. Ward pointed out there are seven courtyards or gardens with living. trees. They will be creating the effect of being outdoors in these seven areas. Before they can go any further with defitsitive' plans, they will have to wait until permit is granted. Mr. Butterfield suggested that at all major entry points (he pointed them out on exhibit) there be, some kind of landscaped area with benches. This puts them in flow of movement through mall and can be t a condition of detailed :landscaping plans. He answered Member Rogers; that the bus stops are included in this. Member Weinstein answered Chairwoman Sallan's query if the committee would be comfortable with this approach by saying 1'artdsca#ing' at entrance was satisfactory, but was an, expedient solution to his request. All. Vallco had to do is get tAdnts of architects itikrlved and get what he has asked for; it is a simple request. If the architect were to say after studying .thi.s that there was no feasible way of doing it, he could accept this. 'Mr. Ward noted perhaps he�had not made himself clear at beginning of meeting,, He reiterated"that' '!e had contacted architect who said it was not feasible because of reasons gives;. Chairwoman Sallan noted it was technically fe'aslble'.- A design for "pause areas" could be attained by plants to attract ' people to an area. The Associate Planner then asked if the committee could appr`o4t t1i&` concept of an air conditioned mall. 4 Member Weinstein said with the condition that there be some landscape pausing area in reasonable juxtaposition to mall itself and this woul, give the architect a broad field to explore. Chairwoman Sallan summed it up that in addition to artifical. environ meat the committee would like a natural environment created as well.` Mr. Butterfield then referred to Section 1, Architectural Plan. They had just discussed A (InvestigaLa the possibility of an outdoor area in the mall) . B. (Eliminate the third-story effect of Penney's air conditioner.) They have taken off air conditioning and incorporated mechanical equipment of TBA. They have amended elevation to show this. Only raised portion is entrance area which was pointed out on exhibit. HC-116 MINUTES ON THE AUGUST 29, 1914.A�J... -COI+t L, PiE�TING ,t ��• ,- Page 6 � , C. (Investigate possibility of putting air conditioner on TBA bull(Ung.) This has been done. R D. (Alternatives for the brick material for the mall shops. Are there materials that are lighter in color samples to be presented at the meeting.) The samples were distributed and discussed. Slides were shown of building structures incorporating the different color bricks. Mr. Butterfield pointed out how light colors jump out through landscaping; daii colors let the landscaping stand out. He answered that 50% of cgnstruction would be of the brick. The model was displayed. Member Dressler asked if Sears would change color of building. Mr. Ward said Sears management had asked that concerns be directed to th,4q.ri�ther than to Vallco. Sears wants to cooperate and can be involved later. They cannot realistically, relate until it is known what the shopping center will be doing. (tairwoman Sall,au pointed out the committee, has consis.tently said that Sears is not integrated with the plan. "he.commimi:ttee must mike a-deter- mination of what they want: done:, ,if anything, to: the architecture, cif Sears. This conception should be raised at this point and ,forwarded to the Council,: what can act in accordance or in defiance, however they choose,. The camtaittee .does have, the responsibil ky to consltdei thiC.' as: -a total shopping center and this would include all aspects, recognizing that Sears is different from it at this time. .y Mr. Ward said Sears wants to be a good neighbor and to cooperate but their application should not be denied because of what .Searb does or does not do. Mr. Butterfield referred to rendering, pointing out relationship , between .Sears and mall. He noted Penney's has yet to submit' design. He answered Chairwoman Sallan that he did not know when Penney's would be submitting design. Mr. Ward said this was waiting on' suspension of use permit. Mr. Ward pointed out that Penney's, Bullocks and Sears would be slightly different but the mall would integrate them. He did not feel it was proper at this point to talk more about Sears without having Sears management present. Chairwoman Sallan said she was concerned about each store coming in separately instead of as a total plan. sir. Ward said Mr. Butterfield has been working with architects from Penney's and Bullocks. / �' , � ,� � 4 Xis• MINUTES OF TILL AUGUST 29, 1974 AW. H-CONTROL MEETING � RC�-116 Page 7 Mr. Butterfield painted out Vallco has design control over what Pen aey's. does :and they will certainly gave= them criteria aif, z�taat has been designed. Mr. Ward reminded the committee that Penney s.' r will be coming to them for approval.. In answer to Chairwoman Sallan, Mr Ward said it was a condition of Council that the parking lot lights at Seals be changed,- but he• would not be comfortable about committing•a budget to change the architecture of Sears. Chairwoman Sallan said there were two points to be decided: One was the particular color of brick-and the second was whether or not to invir# some dialogue betweea. Sears..and the City. It was agreed to send a letter to Sears inviting them to come before the committee and Mr. Butterfield was, asked, to be present. He agreed; The Associate Planner raised the question how this would relate to this application. He pointed out that, part of,mall` shops are on Sears property and the perimeter road creates a need<for.some re- design so obviously Sears' is: involved. The paint_seems to. ba to; what degree gill Sears be required to change. Chairwoman Sallan said it seems to be a question of who pays for modification of Sears. Vallco° Park would prefer Sears'to, be involved in the modification. The committee should decide if -Sr.ars. s*'xoU d:be modified, or if shopping center can-work without Ser.i s.1tirt mod fled. Member Weinstein sari Sears modification does not have anyth n& to do with this architecture. You either approve of it or you don't. This is better than any shops-,ng center around ,here. Chairwoman Sallan said it was within the scone of this cor aittee to say if Vallco Park should assume responsibility for change in Sears architecture. Member Weinstein felt this was unreasonable. Member Koenitzer said the main problem in Planned Developments is where do you insist that planning be done. He suggested asking Sears to talk with the committee, but they could not do more than ask them to talk. Mr. Butterfield said he has designed connection to Sears assuming no change to Sears building. It could probably do more harm than good - in trying to alter the building; it could wreck what was already a difficult situation. Concentration should be in screening aspects of approaches, periphery landscaping and let the building be. re HC-116 zHIN TES OF THE A ST 29, 1974 ADJ. H-�CONTROL MEETING page $ �Hember Weinstein: asked if it would improve the visual impact to change :tile from red to brown. Fir. Butterfield said he did not think it would be noticed by most people. Mr. Butterfield ansisrared Chairwoman Sallan that the brick work tst+aM 40 ft 'short of Sear-'s buildiag. Chairwoman Sallan asked what thoughts could be discussed with Sears about tying in architect e.Mr. Butterfield aid the Sears, buildingwas tod definite and: complate a design to make any. appreciable alteration tag-=it. Maybe a different nolor of stucco, but that migrt tend to make it lc+ok bulkier. He has given a lot of consideration to this concernand feels his proposal is best solution. He answered Member Dressler there was an obvious sconomic advantage of tying ma3.l to Sears. :Mr. Painter said landscaping could be used to change Sears appearance rather than altering building. After further discussion, the committee agreed'the original proposal Hof the brick to be used was best. Chairwoman,.Sallan then asked if the: committee was. in ,favot- of hAving' Sears come in. She. asked Mr. Butterfield what: his. thinking was: oix. ways to, modify ,structure. He reiterated that it was. his best<costT4. dered opinion that it would be better to .leave Seats building: alone::_' Ha°.'did not want to suggest any alterations to it. Mr. Ward suggested if the committee approved .of this concept, .lt,c ul:d be more opportune in six or eight weeks, to'discuss, the matter witir Sears;. after they. had something for, them to. Ident4fy with. Chatimmtan Sallan Zaid a letter should go now and a meeting set with Sears. She would prefer to be ahead of time in planning rather than after' the f�qtt. The Associate Planner asked if this development would be tied down to modification by Sears. Chairwoman Sallan said the application would'condi- tion applicatit qL landscaping-wise, but not structure--wise. Mr. Ward said it was his opinion the committee could not condition this on Sears landscaping, although he felt Sears would cooperate. After a lengthy discussion, the committee agreed to condition this apnlication on Sears' landscaping. At 9:35 p.m. a recess was taken, with the meeting reco:.vening at 9:50 p.m. Chairwoman Sallas advised the discussion about Sears would be held until after the landscaping discussion. MlNftvS OF THE AUGUST 29, ?7 4 ADJ. Hmr=L HWING HC--116 Y Page 9 Vith regard to.item E (diseus-;ior ®f proposed roof material), Mr.. x $utterffeld said the st indard roofing„ gravel woiil"d $ used. � �tem�er Dressler noted it was an expansive area to covex �a�d 6die'would zb'e` people looki*?g down on it However, 'he had no real' ccfncera 'abo i iE` In answer to Chai rwomar Sallan, Mr. Butterfield said the usual color of the gravel was grey. She also ascertained the equipment `wouln`°be housed internally. The only things on the roof would be the minor plumbing.,vents. The committee agreed the pea gravel would be satisfactory. 2. Conceptmil Landscaping Plan Chairwoman Sallan asked that Mr. Painter address the' possibility 'a an area behind Penney's, Air. Painter said he would try to address every question raised last time. Since there is l.aadsttiping on eaa'tge A,, of 4 Phase, there was no need for 20 ft. on' shopping "'ce-ter property: : He pointed out areas of steep slope condition. He proposed patting x 5 ft, of the 20 ft. into another urea where parking is''in~iilOiii;e, G relationship to entrance drive. He described plan and used'dr*wi&1 to illustrate treatment being proposed: a Mr. Painter answered Chairwoman Sallar t:Aat wall is` 3-I/2' ftl. tii gR ;, There is an Il ft. change of grade. - Mr. Painter then spoke ,to condition along Wolfe Road if road ,were widened and described solution being- proposed. Another concern of committee had been the area. in` the restaurant parking lot. He described proposed configuration. With regard to perimeter wall, he had prepared two exhibits of special situation. He explained 'now these had' been'allaviated. There is 15 ft. of utility easement but ,the utilities were, planted, on east edge. If the wall were put on the property line, it could be on pipe line. Vallco Park will put wall on their property. There will be an agreement with the owners of the property on other side of wall not to cut down redwoods. The other area is at Amherst Street. They are suggesting a straight wall :iue with indentations and plantings in the indentations. Vallco Park will provide plantings on ti,e residential side. Member Rogers referred to 10% reduction in parking and said she would like to see this space used in some different way; something for contrast, such as a rose bed. f r i � r{ T � IF 0 Hr X-116 MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 29, 1974 ADJ. H-CONTROL FETING ?age 10 Air. Painter said the main concern of the committee w�&s to `see th;ts lb reduction in parking spaces used most effectively; placing ekeen'areas whsre they would achieve most public benefit. When they retur4 'i�ith de&-;fled plans, they would have exact plants, entrances with benches, `etc. Member Rogers noted she would like to see the use of more water. The difference in grade on Wolfe Road and the parking lots was discussed. Member Weinstein said with this concept, no parking would be seen; it might be difficult to locZte parking lots. He thought it an excellent conceptual plan. The discussion then moved to Item A (Determine the feasibility 'of land- scaping on the Sears property) . Mr. Painter :said he had listened to their comments and had tusked with Mr. Ward. He had also studied .landscape plans. The pri. 4ry thl,..g is the trees already on edge of property. Since these trees are' .lready there and the sprinkler system in, it would not be feasible to Wit'. earth on top of the roots. So they did not .recommend a mound.'' Their ` do recommend dense and continuous shrub planting around perimeter; set immediately behind the second row of ash trees. ThisI s' tlie' ` minimum program. The second thing would be establishing more tree pla*,ting with emphasis on planting close to the perm-eter'on end' of parking row islands. The third thing would be to Leef up parking row islands within the parking lot. This would certainly tend to P,make it more compatible from the public viewpoint. ;In answer to Member Rogers, Mr. Painter said. he thought it would be more effective to have large trees in the parking lot rather than' ' something close to the building walls. Member Koeni._er asked about the possibility of eetting planting area along retaining wall on parking lot side of wall at Wolfe''Road -Mr. Painter said the concrete wall that is there now is unfortunate and should be totally hidden. He suggested a creeping vine in planter. " Member Kc?�nitzer said his concern was not in hiding the wall, 'but screens.-o ; the cars. Mr. Leonard said this corner is most objection- able and pointed out cohere with proposed plan this part comes nut and becomes lower level parking lot which will solve the problem. Chairwoman Sallan noted there seemed to be an agreement from last meeting that Sears should tie in landscaping-wise. Mr. Ward suggested the City and the committ%e would be more favorably received by Sears if after landscaping plans are approved, Mr. Painter be aoke<l to do drawings for Vallco Park of what he would reconmtend for Sears and the relationship between existing architecture and what Vallco would be. Vallco Park could then contact Sears' architect and ask if in the light of these conditions, they felt changes should be made to bring them up to standards of the area. : € rg #IN MIWES OF THE AtMi 29, ✓§fi� • .. RC-ll6. t Page 11 Mr. Leoitard �t�old haw this approae�i had worked! saith� StaCezII�vis'fon„° � of Highways,: ° a In anewer to Chairwoman Sallan, Mr. Leonard described i %at 'ne`mafit as 'belligerent" approach, He said he seemed to hear from this body an "if Se.srs doesn°t do it, rallco will have to" stand. Member ' instein said he felt the approach suggested by lair. WarA.` was reasonable. Dependent'upon`Sears reply, other approaches could- be considered. Mr. Ward said he felt they could have drawings and committee could have an answer fr,3m Sears before final plans were approved. Chairwoman Sallan said the question was whether or not the committee considered Sears to 've a portion of the: regional shopping center application. If they dial, it is within their scope to exact conditions or_ this application. They are a recommending body Ad if their action is deemed inappropriate, the applicant can aped;A! g and City ,Council will make final decision. Economics should and will be worked out at City Council lciel; this committee is dealing in aesthetic philosophy. Member Weinstein saki if Sears refused" to do anything, tNe,committi66''" would be right back to whether or not the;, approved of this conceptual plan. They must make a decision of Vheiher or ndi they will approve the center, regardless of Sears. Chairwoman Sallan said they could deal with this application and make no conditiu-_a relative to Sears,-'or they could make 'Sears 4 condition of this application which would place responsibility on the applicanc to work something out with Sea- Member Koenitzer said he felt the prob-lers would have to be addressed by City Council. This problem relates' co any Planned` '. velopment.` which comes in as separate pieces. The Associate Planner said there are two issues here. One is the forcing of Sears to integrate architecturally and the other is forcing them to integrate lands capin g-wise. As a condition of use permit, Vallco Park is making lots of off-site improvement. Since - t;~--v are linked together the landscapi will have to be worked out and this is a valid issue. The architecture is something else. In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Cowan said the project won't be approved until detalled landscaping plans are approved. Chairwoman Sallan insisted she felt it must be a condition of this application. � n� h t1 a �p Ilk e RC-115 tiIPBITES OF THE AUGUf T .29. 19 74,AW..-H--COI 7WL:MEATIiS1 w M tt : a Page 12 . . After further discussion, it was agreed that modifications on cor^eptual landscaping plans are satisfactory and that architecturali a4pne are satisfactory. The original"pcoposed was most satisfa�c Qx t s ►1'U40n Ri to brick material. member Weinstein reminded then that tiie autd[oor rest area was to come in on final plans. .This was agreed to,by.Nr.r W04.� . The Associate planner referred to two modifications ,being requested.'. The wall will be built separately' from shopping center.. He explained again the reasons, for moving wall and modifications being requested. Mr. Painter also explained landscaping proposed. The meeting was opened to public comment. There were none. Public Hearing Member Dressler moved, seconded by Member Weinstien,_ to close Public.` closed Hearings. Motion carried.,S-6 Wall modifies Member Weinstein moved to approve wall modifications. as per 4xawiAgs tion approved L-1 and L-2. Seconded, by Member Koenitzer. Motion carried, 5-0. It was noted the top of the wall would always be level; if- step"in wall occurred it would be at property line, or as close as, possible: Grading on, east side of property, was then discussed. ,t. The hearing was opened for public comment. There were none. Public Hearin Moved by Meatoer Dressler, seconded by Member tCneltze`r,* to close` l�'ublic closed Hearings. Motion carried,` 5-O Public Hearing After discussion, the hearing was reopened, reopened Mr. Ward suggested a letter be sent to Sears asking them to consider architecitire in light of landscaping revision. HC-51,075.40 Member Dressler moved to recommend to the City Council approval of approved w/ application HC-51,075.40, subject to standard conditions, with the conditions following H-Control exhibits, A, A-1, A-2, A-3, A-4, 9, B-1, B-2, B-3, B-4, B-5, B-6, C, C-1, D; D-1, F, F-1, and additional exhibits as presented during the hearing as necessary to be supplied by the City staff, and the exhibit that pertains to Bullocks Store can be excluded frux this motion. MIIQI#TES OF THE AUGUST 29, 1914 AW V;ACWML :KzMDtG AT ;'< f7,-J,k��. MC-M 4 page 13 The motion is to include the following additional :conditions(: { (1) That thn grading for the project on the east side of Wolfe Road be approved with the addition of retaining, walls and berming as presented in the landscape concept during the hearing; (2) That the architecture and colors are approved for .the r jest as presented. (3) That the ratio of automobile parking spaces sha be 75% standard cars to 25% compact cars and modify existing ordinance to use 9 ft. wide spaces for standard cars and thus provide the applicant with more space for planting said landscaping. (4) That the parking lot grade-"=ill on the north side,of- Penney's 6tore shall be reduced to 3%. (5) inat an outside area- for resting, .sitting, yd_. than is , p . juxtapos rion to tbe;mall` itself and close to. the awr►.eral: f7s)4 of foot'traffic be included;and that this area; oe shown in the filial landscaping plan. (6) That the penthouse that housed refrigeration equil+rtent on top of P_•nney's store is to be removed and. the mechanical equipwent to be housed over the Tim. annex building to the Penney's store. (7) That the landscaping ^1 ens i-:� t<, have conceptual approval. (S) The f nal approval for the landscaping plan shall b,-- cond-�tioned that the applicant present preliminary drawings`, to t,ze Sears store management, suggesting landscap�ajg modification to more closely relate to overall ceu.ter and that the arcdhit(mtural modification to the Sears. building also be suggested whereby the Sears store is to similarly blend appropriately with the overall architecture of the mall. The intent is t) have the Sears store tie in with the rest of t%e shop-ing center as a total planned project. (9) T) continue the architecture of the restaurant and the Penner 's store to separate hearings with the intent that the architecture of -hese two units shall also conform to the project. - a `riC--116 ES OF THE At3WS, .29,3�.3 "age 14 (10) To, complitdent the appl;=canit_,as rep resented by,Ra3.p a i3�t to trfie ld and Michael Painter for their patience, expertise and cooperation. `x Seconded by Member Koenitser. Chairwoman Sallan said she did not feel it was establiph,edl ;there would be a presentation to this committee. Member Dressler said this was cohered In #teem 8. A lengthy ;discussion. .on.means ,to insure that this application was conditioned or. Sears tie in then followed. Chairwoman Sallan felt an amandment would be in order. Amendment A.fta-r further discussion, the following amendment was ma4e.,by Member Welnstein C'.ven the complexity. of,,relationship ,between .t �e Sears store and mail as proposed and given the complexity of land.'pwaex hip, this coamtttee feels there is a need regardless of what agreements can be reached`or i:ot reached,between,Vallco Park and;Sears,,for.,the,Sears, frontage on Stevens Creek Boulevard and Wolfe. Rpad pe.rij►eter of Sears to be landscaped. If Vallco Park and Sears cannot reacts a workable agreement on landscaping modification that„the;City -Cqu ;L� re their authority to somehow,insure landscaping of Sears periW- such that cars are screened and,,,the general aestheticp� are bxopghr F*thin entire wa anti shorning center concept.. Seconded by Member .Rcs�Ys. VOZZ ON AMODMENT mendnient A :Members Dressler, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwo =$allan approved Member Koenitzer Motion carried, 4-1 VOA ON MOTION ':otion carried AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, ;Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 The applicant was informed this would be heard by the City Council at its September 3, 1974 meeting. Member Rogers reminded the applicant of her suggestion for more water and some unusual design for additional spaces. r_. <r. t�TMIMMI e s OF THE AUGUST 99, 1974`AW. H T L MMMG HC-116 Page 13 Chairwoman Sallan reminded the committee that the next r+epur meeting wouid be on Wednesday, September 4 at 7:00 p.m. Thew would be a sign ordinance meeting on September 11 and starting with the September 19 regular meeting, meetings would be held on Thursday evenings rather than Wednesdays. A short discussion was held on means of providing that overall plans be submitted for Planned Developments. Guidelines were suggested. Chairwoman Sallan suggested it be put on the agenda at some meeting and the committee could bring in Britten comments. AWOURisMT The Meting was adjourned of 12:10 a.m. to the next regular meeting on September 4, at 7:00 p.z. APPROVED: C. Ranc Ilan ATTEST: Wm. R. Ry r, City Clerk CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA- SC-117 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California 95014 fi3ge 1 Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THZ REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND 91TE'APPROVA: COM ITTEE HELD ON SF.PTV,!MER 4, 1.974 M ` kH LIBRARY CONVERENdE 900H#-,` CITY HALL., CUPERTINO, CALIFOM IA The meeting was opened at 7:09 P.M. by Chairwoman Sallan. ROLL CALL Members present: Members DressYer,- Koenitzer, Rogers, Weitnstein, " Chairwoman Sallan Members absent: None Staff present: Senior Planning Technician Toby Kramer ' x The Senior Planning Technician reported Bullock's was requesting a t slight modification to their building. ;1r. Wax' & displayed plans which showed a change being made to the store's entrances. There had been a straight angle for canopy; were now planning -to. round end F of canopy. Mr. Ward did not know .the reason for the change. After discussion, a Minute Order was proposed by Member Dressler to MINUTE ORDER accept modificat 1r,a to Bullock's store entrance as presented. Bullock's Seconded by Member Weinstein. modification approved AYES: Members Dressler, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: Members Koenitzer and Rogers Motion carried, 1-2 Ch- ainaoman Sallan thanked Ms. Kramer for response to her questions,. She urged other committee members to subuit their concerns to the staff by this procedure. A' PROVAL OF MlNuns: M:;nutes of July 3'. 1974 Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to continue approval of 'Minut>_s of July 3, 1974 until the next regular meeting. Motion carried, 5-0 s" ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE MINUTES 10 of 12 01/03/1973 - 12/19/1974 t1TSs or THE SEPTMSER 4, 19 74;1 00MOL MU W. Page Z Minutes of Minutes of July 17, 1974 7/17/74 approved as Chai`reoman,.O0l",°,9aid the s8cftd 13ra =on'l t-711-0d bf page 2"s Are ame-_4ed lob jeeUveu .x'atharr .than-,!?subjective"; On page 6, paragraphs 4, Chairwoman Sallan wanted the phrase added to _. first sentence, "if building sign on Eighway 9 wes removed and put an east elevation.00 0:. page 13, second line should read "frontage for lower profile planting." Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Dressier, to approve Minutes of July-17, 19,74.as amended -Motion carried 4-G-1 Abstain: Weinstein Minutes of Minutes of August 7, 1974 8/7/74 approved as The second paragraph. oa, page -11 should be elftftated, amended Moved by Member Dressler,: seconded 4v. McO4r Koenitzer, tsr;appxpve� Minutes of August 7-.,. 1974 as ,amended. Hation carried, 3-0-2 Abstain: Rogers, $a3.larra Minutes of ' Minutes of August 9, 1974 8/9/74 approved as On page 6, first paragraph, Member Dressler said his proposal was amended to ask the City Council to review Memtfer Rogers' resignation and events leading up to it, then interview Member Rogers before acting on it. Moved by Member Dressler, seconded by Member Weinstein, to approve Minutes of August 9, 1974 as amended. Motion carried, 3-0-2 Abstain: Sallan s !V _ e MINUTES OF THE SEOTb511i 4, 9-14 $ 3 Minutes of August 21, 1974 on paw $; last; paragraph, Ids Dressler shed,the wors2= "terracat'l# P M es of in line 3 replated iti th the'crord " r`oposed"- ; 8j21174 approved as Moved by Member Koehi.trer, seconded by M2mber Weinstein, to approve amended Minutes of August 2.1, 1974 as ascended. Motion carried, 4�-*-V Abstain: Rogers POSTPONEN gns The Senior Planning Technician reported item 11, Brentwjod Market, had requested a continuation to the neUt meeting. 1t was so moved. WRITTEN CONfivMICAT20NS - Letter frog: S.H.A.A.E. regarding .landscaping at Bumbleberry Restaurant. Letter from Mr. Michael Stout about proposed Weatfie'd: cons tcucti . Member Weinstein introduced newspaper clipping from the Palo Alto Ti' s regarding Pales Alto sign ordinance change. 5t'aff &-to matte ;coptes for committee It was suggested these also be distributed to ;Sign;: Review Committee. ORAL CO&IUNICATIONS Member Dressler wished the minutes to contain comment by Mr. Heidrlk president of Bullocks. Mr. Heidrik noted- enne of the Bulloa's stores had no signing at all and it had not effecter.` their business adversely. Chairwoman Sailan then noted there was a very hearty agenda and while the committee Will try to process as many applications as possible, there would be no item initiated after 11:30 p.m. Member Koenitzer commented that since the point was raised at last meeting about related items, although items 4 and 5 of tonight's agenda were related, if iz looked like time was short, he would rather hear item 6 before item 5, since item 6 was a continuation. The committee agreed. y HC-117, d` MINUTES O THE SGPmtE6B R 4,, 1974 Zt-CONTR.O. -.. MLT IN^. ; a e. s it Page d PUBLIC HEARINGS: HC-51,340.1 1. Application HC-51,340.1 of Al Firensi requesting approva' of site, Al Firemai a thiteet:uure, landseaptog, grading;; lighting and,slgnlno�,for,,A Drexel Fut-niture Sure located southerly of and adjacenc;to Stevens Creek Boulevard approximately 400 ft. easterly of the intersection of Stevens Creek� Boulevard and. Blaney Avenue. Continued from H-Control ceeting of August 21, 1974. Staff report: The Senior Planning Technician located property and described adjacent properties. The use permit approval specified _he building location and the perimeter setbacks. 126 parking spaces are required by ordinance; since furniture store is low intensity use,, _ applicant was allowed to provide only 80 spaces. Spaces cannot be reduced further however. A condition of approval requested applicant to agree tti participate in a reciprocal driveway and parking easement in the future open Setback for eastern boundary measures property to east is deveaoped. only 4 ft. Since adjoining property will probably be commercial,. .the joint parking and driveway will not necessitate the need for much landscaping. Instead of meandering sidewalk for the Stevens Creek frontage, leading �to tha- front entrance, a sidewalk will be placed altmg the western ` side of driveway leading from the street to the maist entrance. j Ms. 'Kramer pointed out the, configuration Lof building front.was changed slightly. The archways are being moved out and walkway provided 'along front of the store. The entrance into building will b,e in the middle s of the store, With regard to landscaping, a major concern is for property line adjacent to the single-family homes. ' A combination of Monterey pines and shrubs is being proposed. In response to a query raised about a break through to Fisherman's Village property, Ms. Kramer said the City Council did not feel it was necessary to have one. The rtiipi proposed is 12 ft. 9 inches in height and has a total of 106.5 sq. ft. Architectural element ties in wish building. It is within the guidelines of the committee. s' Mr. Alan Firensi, 2147 Junipero Serra, Daly City, answered Member Weinstein that there was no sidewalk from parking lot to building as the parking lot would not be used that often. 8 to 10 cars can park at entrance and that is the usual number at any one time for a furniture store. 5 i i F { MLNUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 4, 1974 H--CCO TIROL MEETIXG �s � 9C-117 Page 5 In response to Member Weinstein, Mr. Fi,renzi said theey �hdd-&ng d to give-up showroom space and-provLde portico. Pessplee ee�,1�'.�ialta:;. undd r portico and look at d isplayd in windava. Chairwoman Sallan ascertained there was no walkway plan. Xt; Fd; zi . said if it was necessary at a later date, they would use rear door. Only employes would be using hear door for now. ChaIriomm9a also ascertained that buyers would not be carrying furniture Chairwoman Sallan suggested more landcaping since applicant feels parking allowance is considerably more than needed. Ms. Kramer said it could be another type-.df store at a future time so the City would prefer to keep spaces. Planned Development zoning does allow, developers to go 102 under ordinance. Member Rogers questioned slope up ramp. Mr. Terry Lofrano, 305 Grant Avenue, San Francisco, said the slope was 6 inches. This is approach to por, .co; slope will allow rain to run off. Member I+oen tzer. ascertained it allow use by the handicapped. The addition of sidewalk from parking lots was• discussed. :_ Mr"r Lafran said a sidewalk would have to be at the expense of landacapug: , Member Rogers suggested changing some of the parking spaces to compact car site to pick up enough space for steppintg:stones . Chairwoman Sallan suggested moving-pad back 9 .feet.. Mui . Kramer, explained this could not be done; she referred to conditions 17 of use permit approval. Chairwoman Sallan asked staff if there could; be prepared a report of what was done in response to committee suggestions .at preliminary reviews. With regard to architecture, Member Koenitzer said he did not .think the architecture went with the quality of the furniture. Member Weinstein felt the architecture was decent. a In response to Chairwoman Sallan, air. Lofrano explained the materials and configuration of proposed building. The colors will be very clos to those in exhibit. He answered her concern about arch treatment and noted E. vine will be trained to go between arches and over the arches. The building will be covered to a large Extent by plantings. 'Member Dressler said he liked the architecture of the building. It was requested that samples of materials be provided and Mr. Lo€ran said these would be sent down. , Care and maintenance for preservation of existing evergreen tree wasp discussed, i x'R,.1 '''1. AC-117 M.LNUTES OF THE SE PTEMER As .1974, ff-CC.a'RAL HEZM `- Page 6 Member Koesitzer noted th.- :a ridon Plane tree was,4ecifto sl!.also, an the south,,side of buiidLi%S jand east property hind were•> 11- . deciduoms trees. He.would like to.-see'aoxaething. at a broadleaf:. .._ evergreen variety used. The applt said he would be happy to have suggestions. Member Koenitzer said the front needed some shrubs.. Something higher than star jasmine was needed in parking lot areas. Chair- woman Sallan noted this was particula-rly true since there was only 4 ft. of landscaping. Member Rogers suggested replacing star jasmine with .raphiolepis on east boundary and replacing raphiolepis with something taller., Mr. Lofrano said having a 3 ft. high shrub and medium height trees: would spoil effect being planned. Mr. Firenzi said they would be happy to follow any suggestions. In answer to Chairwoman Sallan, Mr. Lofrano said the guidelines bad been used. I Chairwoman:Sallan expressed cone= about junipers. Member Weinstein suggested the junipers be interspersed with some taller shrub;. Concern was -expressed by Chai.rwomaa S.atlaa .that 3 foot mound .And grass would not screen cars. She noted they might want to consider something on border of parking area. The graditg was noted to �,e satisfactory. Member Koenitzer referred to lighting at Fisherman's Village and suggested these standards should, be -lowered to 12 feet also. Mr. Lofrano said the lower the standard the pore standards needed. They were hoping to give uniform lighting throughout the parking tot -for the sake of safety. After further discussion, the applicant agreed to place lights in accordance with staff instructions. The applicant said the fixture was a square box type on pole of dark anodized or black color. Ms. Kramer noted it was the same as at Fisherman's Village. Chairwoman Sallan said she was uncomfortable approving something without seeing it. The applicant said he would submit another exhibit of it for City Council consideration. * t MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 4, 1974 H-COIIMOL MEET IdG - 17 7 Ask Member Koenitzer said the sign was in .line with size and het that has bten discussed. He quesiiofied-blie inn light iiij sty. Mr. Lofrano said there Vas no exgct specffication on sijbi'as yet. g In answer t.: Member Weinstein, -Mr. Firenzi explained rei utibn®hip of Suburban Hausa and Drexel Heritage and why bath were $ftcluded on the si; n. Member Weinstein said he was concerned about height of sign. Mr. Lofrano said the sign was prototypical of company and had been proportionately shrunk dawn. Member: Weinstein felt the sign 'could be reduced to 10 feet. Mr. Lofranc pointod out how far under sign allowance they are already. Member Dressler felt the sign could be left at 12 feet 9 inches but have the intensity reviewed after installed. Member Koenitzer agreed. Chairwoman Sallaa felt it would be a mistake to cut 'legs off; this is what is wrong vitli Bob's Big Boy sign. It Mould be possible to explore decreasing entire sign proportionately since building is only 20 feet and sign would be 12 feet 9 inches. The hearing was opened for -public comments. There were none. t. Member Rogers moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close the #ublic Hearing Public Hearing. closed Motion carried, 5-0, Member Krenitzer moved to recommend approval of application HC-51.,340.1 to the City Council with the exl.+bits A, B, C and E, standard conditions and the following special conditions: (1) That some kind of everg-:een tree be used in place of the London plane trees proposed on east and south sides of building. (2) That taller shrubs replace the star jasmine in the park- ing lot area; as a suggestion, use raphio:lepis. (3) That the raphiolepis on the eastern boundary be replaced with a plant that grows 4 feet to 5 feet high. (4) That two or three of the junipers in the front area be replaced by another plant that grows between one foot and two feet taller than the junipers; these plants to be near but not under sign location. (5) That 12 foot lighting standards be used in the parking area. o t ''rw:�v .S ?,a r >i sz-s a s•`�"'., �.. r . z ';r,*ftw. .r V t-y RC-117 11TES OP THE SEPTEMBER 4,<1974 R-COPITROi. MUTING Page S th#- coam<ittee shall have the.option of seviee�08,�$�gn 01ting iitersity at a future dates. l; That_the staff re•, ,ew ligbting intensity, and' the p vgseo number of stsadards to insure adequate 1i94ti tg. �8) That prior to the issuance of a grading permit* the.:App14m- cant shall have a statement prepared by a certified land-> scape architect describing what measures will be taken to, protect the tree daring the grading and construction on the site and that adequate provision will be made to maintain the tree once the project is completed. (9) That staff review colors to assure they rra.tch plans as shown on exhibit B of architectural rendering. Seconded by Member Rogers. HC-51,340-.1 approved wh AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan conditions NOES: Member_ Weinstein Motion carried, 4-1 Member Weinstein said he had voted no because of sign height. This application will be heard by the City Council at its September 16 meeting. At 9:00 p m. a recess was taken,. with meeting reconvening at 5:13 p.m. HC-51,333.2 2. Application HC-51,3,3 2 of John A, gob rato (Valley Green Business d Park) requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping, Valley Green Business Park grading and lig�zting for an industrial office complex located adjacent to and aaftherly of Valley Green Drive approximately 350 feet westerly of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. Continued from H-Control meeting of August 21, 1974. Staff report: The Senior Planning Technician noted this application is part of a planned development reviewed earlier, There are four parcels tovsshot.; different coniigurationnof buildings.he Recommendations revised t of this committee have been incorporated. 1fie construction will be in two phases. Phase 1 will include Bldgs. 1 and 3, and the appropriate parking areas; Phase TI will be Bldg, 2 and remaining parking. Am" HUMS OF THE ' d� E�x ;A974 M=EtNT `1 TlC KC 117 Page 9 The com Utee must decide .the. amount :of, site, improvemant rreeeestry for Phase 1. Plans indicate-_landsca"Lh-& on Nallay Greft Dave-,`, will be installed at later date except portion between the curb and meandering sidewalk. The point was raised about landscaping being, destroyed during later constn,ctkon. The slumpstone wall will screen delivery area. It :!!:,;Fuld be- of same appearance as building so it will blend with building. Membet Koenitzer refe,.-red to e_dsting trees on site. These should be preserved with ca-e and maintenance during construction. Chairwoman Sallan ascertained the grading will be relatively uniform between this site and adjacent sites. With regard to lighting, 14 feet standards will be used In the parking lot area and 10 foot standards will be used at driveway entrances. , There are no signs proposed on buildings at this t rue. . Dill bring overall sign program in with mini-storage appllcacti,7h. Member Koenitzer questioned walkway� to Steak & Ale. Ms. Kramer. pointed out pedestrian access. Chairwoman Sallan noted this committee had:;suggested access be provided between bldgs. 2 and 3. The Senior Planning Technician said this had been considered but was not incorporated. Member Koenitzer questioned two curb cuts so close together. He suggested having one that would split into the two parking lots. Member Weinstein asked about car space ratio. Mr. John Sobrato, 2775 Middlefield Road, Palo Alto, pointed out . raised cincrete sidewalks to allow people to g, through parking lot to restaurant. Chairwoman Sallan asked how parking lot path would be delineated. Mr. Sobrato said textured painted terracotta could be used. In answer to Chairwoman Sallan, Mr. Sobrato described drivers' access to different areas of site. In answer to Member Koenitzer's conceni, Nr. Sobrato said the curb cuts had been discussed at length. There must be a separate proper- ty lane. They have trouble policing parking lots unless there is a clear delineation of parking lots for each tenant. `' lit,-117 MINLUES OF T E SM -4, 1974 H-G{li!dTSOh MMINd Page 10 In,answe.r -tad: Membez ;Weizlsteizz,. Mr. Sob ata,vafaged setoth- fv*t f coinpagt car: spares. RW explained reasmztg-bah1nd ratio :spud e. In answer to Chairwoman .Sallan, Mr. Sobrato said there ' rsld.�e 5 foot to 8 foot high slumpstone wall from end of building. This will screen any truck activity from the restaurant. Theft trill,1te landscaping wth trees on both sides of the wall. Member Koenitzer stated Bldg. 3 should pick up more architectuta3[ elements of Bldgs. 1 and 2. Arch panels on Bldg. 3 would pgbvid$ a more coherent appearance. Mr. Sobrato said they had tried to copy radius point of the two designs They had trier to g1v6 eaA tenant a feeling of inditriduality while being of the aidge tl3eb. He pointed out similarities and, noted all three roofs are of Mission tile. C:iairwoman Sallan noted the elevation past which people will be driving to Steak & Ale should be given special consideration as it will. have. a lot of visibility. Mr. Sobrato said theta, would be a ll) foot. landscaping area along there. Mr. Sobrato 'Ansvere3 Chairwoman Sallan that Bldg,. 2 would not by r constrrr.ted for approximately 2 or 24 years, They will'be pruttiat$ in entire mall area in land:raping on Bldg. 1. Site 2 will b� left in orchard Jut landscaping to the rear and side•,:a-1,k t 1 1 tre placed in now. :n an5wer to Member Rogers, Mr. Sobrato said that any landscaping that would not be affented by construction would be put in between Bldg$. 2 and 3, Chairwoman Sallan noted the frontage along Bldg. 3 is very important. She suggested a lots growth pattern under trees. Air. Sobrato agreed. Chairwoman Sallan saie' she did not like junipers and felt zrylosma should be continued. The applicant agreed. In an<,wer to Chnin.,onan Sallan, :±r. Sobrato said the tree in the ccrner ; rz;.s like a minlatu,ce willow tree. It was suggested ha.,i!,g xylosma a,_1 along the wall. Mr. Sobrato said they m;ght have to Lox exiseing trees. He ewplained bolt dar.a?e aright occrii, but said any daarnc,ed plants would be replaced. Chairwoman Sallan said the island planting Appeared to be trees with uo other gr-ener;. T.t would be better to have trees in boxes. Mr. Sobrato explaine.d brio was only a preliminary plat.. These islands j i .. ,-. MINt1TES OF 3' DER 4, 1, It—CWTHOL NESTING MG-111 Page 11 can be filled with anythi ng; they usually used cobblestones 6ijft the plantings are stepped on by people getting In and out of cars. It was suggested curbing to alleviate this problem. . Measber .Koenitzer said these should beat least one or two other lights in rear. Mr. Sobrato said they anticipated lights in soffit to flood building. Bldgs. 2 and 3 can have lights on building since they will not be invading residential area. Member Koanitaer felt the committee had a responsibility to think of these things while there was a choice. Mr. Sobrato pointed out the buildings would not be in use after 5:00 p.m. After further discussion, it was decided the committee would condition and review at second building phase. The light fixture was described. a Chairwoman Sallar_ Noted the committee's concern for having con- ceptual sign program at time of buildings- Mr. Sobrato said he would envision low monument signs being used. An overall sign schema is being developed for entire planned development. In answer to Member Koenitzer, 14s. Kramer said she did not thiuk Bldg. 3 had the necessary frontage on a major street to qualify for a ground sign. Member Koenitzer referred to problem of sign- ing for mini-storage. He would like to see a total sign program, qqa i Air. Jinn LeDet, representing owner of planned development property, said they had gone through a conceptual program. Mina-storage will have sign at end of 35 font drivev•ay. This will be a direc- tional sign for mini-storage, Steak 8 Ale and commercial develop- ment in 23g acre area. Bldgs. 1 and 2 will have monument type signs and a building sign for Bldg. 3. One of the conditions of the Planning Coumission on parcel map was to leave it open for monument signs. Ms. Kramer pointed out they did not want a -proliferation of ground signs. Mr. Sobrato said there would be twc ground signs on 8 acres. Chairwoman Sallan expressed concern about signs on building. The committee needs [o know where it is intended to pl--ce them. Bldg. 3 could have wall sign but it would to difficult on Bldgs. 1 and 2. 1 The hearing was opened for public comments. There were none., Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Rogers, to close Public Public Hear- Hearing. in g closed ® Motion carried, 5-0 r HC-117 MIri,'L"#'ES OF THE SEPTEHBER 4j 3.19-74 #-COtd1'ROL MMIkG ;y' Page 12 � 5-� 1 333.2 to tt_e Member Kaenitzer. moved to recornd approval of H , City Council with the standare, conditions, exhibits A. B, B-1, B-2, C and D and the fall.-wing special conditions: (1) That the walkways connecting Bldg. 3 to Bldgs. 1 and 2 will have special paint applied to the driveways where: the sidewalk crosses driveways -to clearly 'Aaw that it serves an additional purpose. (2) That plants 3 feet to 4 feet high be planted along street side of wall that extends north from Bldg. to replace e-xisting low growing plants. (3) That any plants put in during this phase of construction that are de.troyed during construction of Phase 11 will" be replaced, (4) That low shrubs be placed in the islands in parking iota ' in _7-*dition to the proposed trees. (5) That the lighting around to the north of Bldg. 3 may be reviewed -,;hen.Bldg. 2 is built for adequacy of lighting, of that parking lot. (6) That the existing trees be preseriwd as recotmmended by staff in their report in that prior to ;ranting ptermit will. want adequate provision to maintain trees during and after construction. rhis will be a report to the' staff and trill_ be approved by the staff. That the wall extending northerly from 31d . 3 be the {7, a _ g Y g same color as the Bldg. 3, Seconded L'y ?Member Rogers. i ..;�;-51,333.2 AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman approved w/ Sall an conditions DUES: None Motion carried, 5--0 tThe applicant ;;as notified his application had been appro, -td and M would be heard by the City Council at its September 16 mee_ing. a. WOW R MINUTES OF THE SEPT MBER 4,_ 1074 H-CONTROL kBETING H.C-117 , p Page 13 3. Application HC-51007i.41 of The Westfield Company requesting.. HC--SI,075.41 approval ,of ,site, architecture, landscaping, grading, 1*ghting The Westfield and signing for two light industrial buildings located at the Company southeast corner of the intersection of Pruneridge avenue aed Tantau Avenue., Continued from H-Controi,meeting of August 21, 1974. Staff report: The Senior Planning Technician said this was a two building light industrial development in Vallco Park. The committee had been given some flexibility to -educe parking spaces to 260 in order to screen areas on the site and add more landscaping. The two buildings have maintained a 30 foot setback from the Tantau Avenue frontage and a 40 foot setback along Pruneridge-Avew,e. A 5 ft. sidewalk has been shown on City right-of-way. -There are no other sidewalks in the Vallco Park development but the Director of Public Works has indicated there may be a possibility of adding side elks to the development to serve pedestrian traffic to the shopping center. The landscaping treatment ,-in frontages of build- ings was described. Concern has been expressed .for the single-family houses to the,east in the City of Santa Clara. There '.+as been Much discussion as to means of screening industrial use. An 8 foot wall and 1011 feet of landscaping has been approved. There has been discussion with. property owners to east and their p.eference in regard to wall. A modification had beer. :jade in that three party-ng spaces were eliminated to allow for muundin g. Ms. Kramer pointed out the area involved. The loading areas are in rear. There had been concern at City- Council level and applicant had explained intent of uses in build- ing. Uses will not generate lots of traffic and there will not be a great deal of equipment moving. The architecture was described. It is'compatible with what is found in Vallco Park. Landscaping concern was for screenin, along back in addition to the wall. Landscaping will be on the industrial side of the wall. A 12 foot standard is being used. The rear lights will be about 70 feet from the property line. Lights are two 250 watt bulbs in each standard. i 1JC-l17 KINTtS OF THE SEPTEMER 4,, 1974 ft--CONTROL„NEETING Fare 14 The signs axe incorporated within the walkway structure and entry to the uuilding. This approach was deseribed and sign located on plan. It was asteftained the signs !be chano6e foi the diffeidxit tenants. The size is within the ordinance allowing 3% of the gross floor area for industrial buildings Mr. Teray_Rcse 990 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, said there were 267'parking spaces on the property with no on-street parking. Mr. Rose said the truck doors were laid out so they could adcomodate ! up to 12 esnants. He located these an the plan. He said the' iritent is that the trucks will not be able to 'stay for any period .df'titse. The trucks wouid.be of the small van type The 8 ft. wall placed against the property line will effectively screen the area. He said light industrial' tenants do not want doors open for any length of time. With respect to Mr. Maws property, 3 parking stalls could be deleted and a 30 inch wall placed from property line (10 ft. from c-itb) to the point where a small metal shed ended; then the 8 ft. wall would begin. There is a railtype fence there now which Mr. Mau said would be removed. In response to Member Weinstein, Mr. aose said the 34 inc', fence t would be to keep debris from blowing over into Mr. Mau's property, Mr. Fred Mau, 3894 Pruneridge, Santa Clara, said he had decided he would prefer the 8 ft. fence continue all -the way to the street. If he couldn't have this, he would accept the 30 inch wall. He spoke of noise and see-.;city p :oblem; 'also debris in his backyard from the bins of garbage that were left uncovered. Mr. Rose said they would be willing to build the 8 ft. fence. Slides were shown of the properties under discussion. Various means of speaking to these problems were discussed. 1+ . Rose exhlbited example of proposed lighting. The lights will go out and down, so that no lights would be going into the adjacent residential yards. Chairwoman Sallan suggested something be placed on sides of build- inb to break up expanse of wall. With regard to architecture, Mr. Blair, 20622 Debra Avenue, Saratoga, displayed photos and samples of materials being proposed. MINUM OF THE SEPT L'f� �+�. 197"�:�-G�!'CRO� ��A1G � .� t KC--117 Page 15 Wmber Rogers ,ascertained the air :conditioning would -not;be e In Answer cc Memeer Dressier, Mr. Blair said the glass would ,hit : the bronae tone. Mr. Rose said the area will have 29+ percent of landscaping. membef Rogers felt there could be more. The strip of property between this site and Calabazas Creek that belongs to Vallco Park was discussed. It was felt the 8 ft. wall on back could be more densely landscaped and the parking lot islands could use more shrubs and trees. Chairwoman Sallan suggested landscaping be continued as all areas should be revised. She pointed out where she felt more plantings and planning were necessary. Mr. Blair pointed out 3 ft. high mounding on Pruneridge. Member Dressler noted this is a small building. With regard to the 30 inch wall versus the 8 ft. wall, the Senior Planning Technician said the committee could make this decision. Mr. Mike Stout, 520 Meadow Avenue, Santa Clara, noted his concern about 8 ft. fence as it goes down further. tie wanted to make sure it is 8 ft. above property owners side and would be kept level at the top. Mr. Prose said if there is a stepping down they would try to speak to concerns of both Cupertino's side and the residential side. The stepping down would, be done at the property lines. after further discussion, Ms. Kramer said there was nothing in the ordinance that said there could not be an 8 ft. wall, but she would suggest that it not be 8 ft. along the 40 ft. setback. :Sember Weinstein said the owner wanted an 8 ft. wall he would give it to him and landscape in front of it. Member Koenitzer pointed out this would be considered frontage and the ordinance sti.pulo-ted limit on frontages. He would not be in favor of an 8 ft. wall extending to property line. Member Dressler said he would allow 8 ft. fence since the owner has asked for it and the applicant is willing to build it. Ms. Kramer suggested delaying a decision on this until the Planning Director lies an opportunity to speak to it. Chairwoman Sallan suggested a 30 Inch well with landscaping that would grow above 8 ft. �v ,d.'a- C i .r {' d.� f a� "C "..F 4T.'� � 3 rj ,y;'< ;�Y�• �'�e`E �Y�: n--117 MINLrCE5 OF THE S '! 8$3 , i99 -ft +t' 1 ` qxr°{" Page 16 Mr. Blair said he would install ar. d ft. panel against si.dewaik and let +he owde r see how this ;*uld look. It was 'deeide@ 'co tenet"US 3andhcap!.rtg` and, T'et the ioplicint decf+ds whether to use 8 ft. wall or 30 inch wall with heavf' andacapina. The grading was foaand to be satisfactory. here were no problems, with the libhtang. Mr. Rose explained how the proposed signs could be shared among the tenants. Member Weinstein said he was concerned about some tenant wanting more signing. Member Knenitzer pointed out this is the first application where signing has been considered as integral part of building architecture. After further discussion, the hearing was opened to public comments. lliere were none raJ71C H83?-i,i1 g t-rher Rogers moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public �?esed t ilea rings. Motion carried; 5-A i provi:-i.an for bicycle racks was discussed. Nenia't!r Kaenitder moved to recommend approval of the site, afchitecture, gt-4d-ing, hewing and :signing on'HC-51,475.41 to the City Council with ran standard conditions, Exhibits A, B, B-1, C, C-2 and E; that the laTid-s,,aping; portion be continued to the next regular meet'iiig for modif ration as outlined at this meeting and with the follosfing spec:i.a t conditions: (1) That the portion of the wall on the' eastern boundary adjacent to Ptuneridge Avenue be continued for inve3tigation of City of Cupertt-o and City of*Santa Clara r quirement3 for height ver>>is setback on the frontage area. } { "? That bicycle racks be provided in the parking area; exact location to be approved by staff. i ! Sea n&.d by liember Rogers. 1 " MINUTES OF THE SEPT24BER 4, 1974 H-C+DHTROL 3�tsL�TING 117 Page 17 AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Saild : HC-51,075.41 NOES: Member°'4einstein approved w, conditions Motion carried, 4-4 Member Weinstein said his no vote was because he was not entirely enthusiastic about architecture. He felt the applicant should have been given some decision regarding wall and let the City work out whatever was necessary to make that possibl Owner has been to hearings and has asked for something quite reasonable. He also questioned about committee getting involved about where bicycle racks would be placed. Mr. Rose asked if H+- ;:.,075.361 and the landscaping portion of this application could be heard together at first of next meeting. Member Koenitzer said landscaping would be first on agenda, but he questioned moving a differiat -application ahead of others. The applicant was informed of his application approval and its hearing by the City Council on September. 16, 1974. - At 11:30 p.m. a break was announced with meeting reconvening at 11:37 p.m. 4. Application HC-51,216.4 of David E. Harper and Associates HC-51,216.4 requestin, approval of site, architecture, landscaping, David E. grading, 1, •41ting and signing for a bowling center located Harper at the southeast corner of Homestead Road and Stelling Road. Associates Continued from H-Control meeting of August 21, 1974. Member Koenitzer suggested hearing items 4 and 5 together. The committee agreed. 5. Application HC-51,216.41 of David E. Harper (Brunswick Division, Brunswick Corporation) requesting exception to Section 6.131 of the Sign Ordinance to allow one (1) shopping center sign and one (1) ground sign in lieu of two (2) shopping center signs for a bowling center and commP rcial/entertainment development located at the southeasr corner of Homestead Road and Stelling Road. Staff report: It was noted this is a Planned Development with recreation/entertainment zoning. The site plan represents the master plan for proposed center. She described the :;ite and its layout. Specific uses for all shops has not been decided. e r ' ;iC-117 7mn=Es of THE $.ETTFax RR 4, 1474 H-' COTWg L, 'Ift 4 Cage 18 The rel ati tmship of nasjary tall, on eastern, and southern•bovndart linen was.approved. 1c will be ;Hounded on both sides; seplicaq", will be l•aanting on bct:h sides of wall. The wall will be 3 ft. on bowling a tley side ead i ft. on residential side. The drivevay= along back of bowling center will be used for, 4ervice area. It will not have a high intensity use. The arc'.i'_ecture was described. Concern was expressed about roof e4uii ,at being visible from aye levr_l from a distance of 100- ft. Ms. Kramer noted the main concern for landscaping is that south and east elevations have 'Landscaping that will screen view and break up wall. the lighting calls for ilk ft.. standards that will be placed AA parking area as marked on atte plait. There is no lightingt>� back. With regard to sign exception, this site qualifies as shoppfrs + i center. They are requesting one shopping center sign on Homestead Road and one ground sign for the. Bowling Center. The sighs .are 20 fr. in height and 5 ft. wide. The staff has suggested that . place;vant of Homestead Shopping Center sign be held up until there is at least one vtoro tenant. At 11:40 p.m. Nsmhcr Dressler Taft, "hairaoma;t Sallan a3ked staff` if there had beer. any c:taagq as result of the preli-Anary revie:a. Isis. Kramer said there had been; ho-wever _hc cowling center was not moved. Mr, David ;:. Harmer., 9050 Ta]eyraph Road, Downey, said the bowl ill 8 center would be 10 ft. from apartment houses. le pointed cut Bova the landscaping play showed color of proposed plantings. Slides were shown of the site, . i Ch.-irvioman Sallan said she ::as .so;-ry Oa:e va«, no midifY cation of buildings. :Member. Xcenitzer said the air c,;,n:ii.ti.oning equipavat must not pro- trude abo%e roof .line. Rather than addiun screening, he would prefer t2ia jai t. coadi tiouir:g be loviere.d. L"Sr. Harper said they planned tc raise the l rnnC roc:f line about .. f lot. Mr-. Harper reporre.d rl, ere Htight be a regiiesr for a changa of wall ma t:e ri al ' rsINWES OF THE SEPTWER 4, 1974 R TB.®L•.MEETIN� � aC-117 x Page 19 Mr. harper displayed photo:r rnd samples of meta! roof. He ea 1ni� ncs(1, mt dulatiag affect oi canopy. . The concrete will be slqmpstona tex- ture. Member Rogers ascertained the wall would be the same color as the building. With regard to landscaping, Member Rogers said she would like to see more intense landscaping in parking lot islandr. and on Homestead and Steliing Road perimeters. Memt)er .Koenitzer felt this landscaping would be very satisfactory. He pouted out that planting around building D Is subject to frost and would the back to ground level. Mr. Harper said this would be checked. Member Rcgers noted this was true of several plants on peri.,aeter. Qlairwoman Sallan asked if frontages were mounded. Mr. Harper said there would be a 2 ft. to 3g ft. mounding. It would not be a continuous mound but a flowing mound. Chairwoman registered conce::n that anything less than a 3 ft. mound would screen the caps. Mr. Iiarper said it was easy to screen the cart, he wanted the landscaping in front to be exciting and different. Chairwoman Sallar_ said she liked approach for color and interest but the curs should be screened by at least 80%. Mr. Haipe` ..aid this could be j done. Chairwoman Sallan said :core should be done with landscaping in parking 'lot. This was discussed. Mcmi:.;r Weinscei.n asked about maintenance of plants, noting many are temperature secsitive. Mr.. Harper pointed out these plants have been used on freeway embankments. Anything that will freeze would be replaced. AiEe"C?�liscussion, Mr. Harper said he could he talking to his landscape architect about changes . Chairwomap Sallan noted there was trouble with screening and specific choice of plants with regard to temperature. She recommended continuing landscaping and asking thew to bring back plans thpt reflect the concerns of the committee. Member Koenirzer.• moved to recommend approval of site, architecture and grading for application, HC-51,11b.'f to the City Council with standard conditions, exhibits as appropriate and the foblowi g special condition: ,x.. e,! y W-1 t.7 '�. NIJ'FS OF TUA SEFTt6V_4; 104 il+ONT_iot k1`f'na P;a�,a 2fl (1) 1`riut Lite rix ten-iir.i.t.;nLng qf.11. not, shtiw Above th.: p3rapat o the buadi ;; arte .*ney sill raise iae'tal roof line as :zeces3arn- to conceal air cond_Ittening equipment. i ( La-dsc►p•tng, 4igairtg and llghi.Ing are contain►.and to rayt rngular zzuecing♦ 7aadscapin;, architect to invescieate :tardiness of some plants selected frr this area. (3) Bicycle racks are to be provided both for the bawling r alley 8tad af�y futura development ad,!ttions. r Seconded by Mt umber Rogers. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Rogers. 4elu—stein, Chairw man Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4--0 `ine applicant was notified the appruved portion. would be heard b-f the Cicy Council at its September 16, 1974 meeting. s t was reea r_ded of Sian review meeting cn Sepcamhe r 11, f i+. and eeLlng d'r(l Mr. Coleman on ;jfE't'tembar 16, 1974. Ilie »:tt rcgt-,at TuPet.._an v=*II be on Th-trsda , September 19, 1.914. NT i i t... _._. "s_? a.m. f:h4 :.a _tin�, .,,a:: adjourned tct the _d!ogrr 3 neet .r.g of rte.ber. 16, 1974. 3 APPROVED: i i } ATTEST: C. c Sal I hairwoman s l zW. E. r, C I tyre—FT i M f t kx. ,yua CITY QaF CUPEF�PiNA �aTA:Z AI' CALIFORA3IA . 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California 95014 Fop I Telephone: 252-,4505 MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED METING. OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND:s��. APPROVAL C0,11MITTEE 'iELD ON SEPTEMBER 16, 1974, IN THE CONFERENCE ROOMI, CITY HALL, CUlPERTINO, CALIFORNIA The meeting was called to ozder at 7:35 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan. ROLL CALL Members present: Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan Members absent: Dressler and Weinstein Staff present: Assistant :Manner Toby Kramer PUBLIC HEARING: 1. Landscaping Guidelines for Sa rat oga-S uany vale :toady Parkway T:Ye Assistant Planner reviewed what had transpired previously c regarding landscaping ,guidelines for Highway 9 and auxiliary streets. She indicated tentative plans for proposed alignment of streets. :is. Kramer referred to draft report of Landscaping Guidelines (Saratoga-Sunnyvale RAi. Pkway.) dated September 13, 1974. The plans for the 50 ft. Parkway and median, designed by .aim Coleman, were included in the packet also. Cliain,,oman Sallan asked if the Bandley miedian could be re-evaluated, noting she had not been satisfied with previous presentation. This was discussed, noting there was a new plan included. The Assistant Pl�-nrcer referred to bicycle paths. A system cf paths in the City has bear. set. TI-ese were located on man. The mao included those route: in use and those being planned, both on highway 9 and the auxiliary streets. She indicated there are two types of bicycle ;routes, ccimruter and recreational. Ms. Kramer pointed out the committee would have to decide whether the auxiliary street sidewalks would be meandering or monolithic. R HC-118 MINWES OF THE AW OURNED SEPTEMBER 16, 1974 H-CONTROL METING Page 2 The location of traffic signals was discussed. Mrs. Juanita MCLaren, 22101 Lindy Lane, Cupertino, former member of the H-Control committee, expressed her concern about making a more determined tricycle Zane than a painted.li.ne. She also noted that # bicyclists were not obeying traffic laws and having a curb or soma- Thing of this nature mould be a protection for them. Chairwoman Sallan noted this statement would be passed on to the City Council and the Public Safety Committee. The Associate Planner reported highways 9 will br part of the Santa Clara County bus system and there will be bus tcrn--outs. She said Mr. Coleman had been asked to design a turn-out: These were part of the exhibits. The exact placement of stops on the street have not,been determined at this time. A list of recommended trees, evergreen and deciduous, was indicated. Mr. Jim Coleman, architect, noted the proposed guidelines°we're' necessarily typical ideas rather than specific plans for specific part of road. He described the general proposal being made. Also bus stop treatuent. He displayed pictures of medians of other cities and a brochure of different treatments of textured concrete. Chairw;,main Sallan sai� the approach looked good on paper. She asked what the dif fereuce mould be between what was shcaa and that o¢ Bob's Big Soy, Mr. Coleman answered the difference would be in the width, more :tees and .Larger shrubs. Chairwoin2m Sallan said her concern was that areas to be screened would be screened and that mo,,*idings should be more in proportion. Membar Koanitze - Pointed out the mounding should be a certain slope, at least 2/1. Ms. Kramer pointed out need for slope to accommodate the power mower. Mr. Coleman said there was a difference between mound and berm. in answer to Chairwoman Sallan, he pointed out portions of plan intended to screen automobiles. In answer to :•iember Rogers, Ms, Kramer explained how the different parcels of property along the street would be developed. This type of approach .ras sug&2sted because there were numerous property ' owners. The developers of each property would follow the guidelines. Chairwomen Sallan expressed her desire "to wee other approaches to screening than plants on mounding. .d, MINUTES OF THE SEPTEIZER 16, 1974;,AD'. H-d:DNTR I+fMING2H Page 3 3 In response• te a concern of Hember Koenitzer, Mr. Coleman was asked- to designate those portions of plan that would lend themselves. to screening and also potential sign placement locations. Mr. Coleman answered Chairwoman Sallan they should tell the developer what is wanted and let them make the proposals. He referred to the guidelines and suggested working through these. Chairwoman Sallan said she was not sure specific concepts could not be used. Time frame for landscaping of Highway 9 w,:,.s discussed. It was ascertained there is no fixed time for cor—Anuation of widening. Member Koenitzer noted he would like to see entire additional lanes developed at one time. The uniformity of landscaping was discussed. Chairwoman Sallan suggested Mr. Coleman should add to the list of trees the growth pattern of each and whether it would be appropriate for screening device. . Mr. Coleman introduced a landscape design plant encyclopedia and said he would distribute copies to the committee. ® Mr. Coleman pointed out it was important to know how plants would be used and Chairwoman Sallan asked that this be designated on the list also. It was summarized that concerns to this point are to have Mr. Coleman. designate on exhibits places that are appropriate for screening cars; on plant types (at least trees) list categories that will serve for screening devices; and show mounding approaches as rolling and not rapid change from steep to low. .Mr. Coleman then described median approach. In studying guidelines, he had worked with State specifications, County specifications and looked at street tree lists from adjoining cities. Mr. Coleman said the Tar--dian trees we.e about 50 ft. apart. Chair- woman Sallan suggested core trees should be used in wider portion of median strip. Chairwoman Sallan said ,he thought it would be an interesting approach to have a tree growing through trellis. :Member voenitzer disagreed. Member Xoenitzer suggested picking one tree to be used on each side of entrannces to mark them as entrances. HC-118 MINUT — OF TE1$ SEPTMRR 16-,, 91JW -: -H-C�A�"JL �1 Page 4 Mr. Colemm told of �onz a -area that, Nad &fferaat� colored-btrea3t. ligbts to icidicare an intersection This was '&scussed- as a pnsslbili¢y.� ; Meagher Kcenitzar suggested having a tree that would be common to each development. p!s :Cramer pointed out that closeness of some of the lots might cause a problem; this could be decided at time of review of individual applications. Member Koenitzer suggested the City make up of a map on a large scale showing trees and shrubs .used at each parcel of land to aid in reviewing the individual applications. At 9:07 n.m. a recess was called with the meeting reconvening at 9:14 p.m. Chainioman. Sallan asked if the committee'was comfortable with the p philosophy of these guidelines; did they feel this plan would , do the job of screening automobiles and provide an interesting visual impact. The Associate Planner noted the median 4ill be done by the City, She also pointed out the grassy mounded area located on the curb . { side of the sidewalk would need consistency of maintenance. She {` indicated the three alternatives were (1) MaLitenance by the Cite i at an approximate cost of $20,000.O0 a year; (2) Maintenance by Asstsssiwnt District which would cost the property owners appsnxi mately $4.00 per front foot a year; and (3) Individual Maintenance by Each Property Owner. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out this committee should deal with aesthetics; how it is maintained is City Council's responsibility. After a discussion, it was agreed a grassy area was desirable and i an approach guaranteeing uniformity of maintenance should be taken. 3 Coloriig of textured sidewalks was discussed. It was decided this could be used at bc :, stops, arcades, etc. Member Rogers suggested fountains could be used in median. This was discussed. In answer to Chairwoz.an Sally=n, Mr. Co'emazu said he would like to fiaialize the guidelines. tA.s. Kramer stressed these are typical, not detailed, plans. Suggestions from tonight would be incorporated. With regard to accent trees at drive entrances, it was pointed out there will be few curb cuts. Mr. Coleman suggested using this approach on auxiliary streets. ` r t7 a' "k- ?xf t$ZldtPl ES OF THE SEPT ER 16, 1974 AW' 8-CONTROL2 t UTUG K?; tic-11 S Page 5 The proposed landscaping guidelines for the 50 frt. setback on Saratoga:-Sunnyvale Road was then studied. 1. Same 2. View of the parked cars in the adjoining developments shall be screened by the use of trees, shrubs and mDunds vbed individually and in combination. More opeu plantings will be used to permit roue visibility of the buildings beyond the frontage area. 3. Desirable existing dominant features, either natural or man made, shall be accented, and existing significant vegetation shall be retained where possible. Developers shall shot• on grading plan, plans for care and maintenance of retained vegetation during and after construction. 4. and 5. - Moved to later in guidelines. 6. Predominantly evergreen trees shall be planted on Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, and either evergreens , or deciduous trees will. dominate secondary streets. Evergreen trees on the major streets reduce the hazards of leaf pick up in the fall_, provide good scale, and give the appearance of a „laity of trees" year-round. Boman at in g evergreen to be picked for frontage as a tie in between developments. 7. Three or more species of trees will be specified for each auxiliary street to allow v..riatious in height, form, and texture and color on that street. A combination of evergreen and deciduous trees will be used; however one will dominate as specified on exhibit. 8. Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road will benefit from, the planting of some large specimen trees, even full-grown trees, The 15-gal. size shall be used for all other frontage trees. A planting of at least one larger boxed specimen tree (min.; 24" box) on each property will he required. Pais urea iS under study and a final reeommck.,,dati.on will he trade. � 4. The City trees shall be planted at -,raying distances within 22 ft. of the curb. Thor Assistant �Ilanner to cah.�ck with Building Department. Trees tnu, planted will be public 2roperty and shall not be altered or removed wi tliout the permission of the City. i f tIC-lld .�?l•S!1'i:_S OF TW 9EPTSPl M 16 1974 AW MMT I : rage 6 10. 'gees shall, generally, be ira groups and not in rows, lines er ether. repetitive pzttezhs b is 11. Sari: "should" being changed to 12. Ssme 13. Areas adjacent to the roadway aad-at intersections and other sections of low speed will be planted at greater density with low-growing materials to provide more visual detail. 14. Same 15. Shrubs, ground covers or mounds of an ultimate height in excess of 3 ft. shall. not be used within SO ft. of curb ret urns, 10. Select plants normally available and hardy, in this . geographical area. 17. Same - delete "for weed control" at end. 18. Same 19. Structures, such as vine arb.)rs, fountains,, sculptures, at al, may Abe incorporated into the planting for variation and accent. Such structures shall be at lease f; ft. behind the curb lines. 20. Same t 22. The general planting scheme shall take the fork of the j punting pattern shown on Exhibits C and D. 23. rile list of tree types that are recommended for Saratoga- Sunnyvale Road are sho a on Exhibit E. A list of shrubs will be derived from. County of Santa Clara Landscape Design Encyclopedia. 24. Slopes for grassy areas shall be a maximum of 4/1; other mounded areas may have maximum slope of 2/1. Slopes to be undulating without sharp transitions. The Associate Planner was asked to list guidelines under headings, i.e. , general concepts, safety, maintenance, etc. ;t • 16, 1974 MINUTES OF THE SST ibits C and on E� ssUed to malck as show move Coleman was £ automobile areas; re It was also In summary. ' approaches o areas. tain t screening add tgee$ to arbor tacles. feoua SUBSe8teddian areas could have trash reo'ep t trees in developments co suggested etc. at entrance areas. ,ddelines; benches, one more meeting on S it was decided there would a Meeting- date to be decided at the �aext seconded by Member vitber r1agera, Ap3QUI��T 5eptembet 19. _ er KOenitzer Moved' Thursday At 10.5E F•to ehebneXt regular meeting to add°"�OQ P•m• 1974 at AVROVIID 1 rwoman •. �. NsYacy Sal AST City Clerk . E• Ry er' t far'.:. x _ ;4 CITY OF CLTERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California Page l Telephone: 252-4505 MLNITTES OF THE REGGL uR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL CU p1ITTEE HELD ON SEPTE:fBER 19, 1974 IN THE LIBRARY CONFEPINCE ROOM, CITY HALL, CL'PERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO 'ME FLAG The meeting was opened at 7:09 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan. ROLL CALL 'members present: Dressler, KoenitLer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan Members absent: Weinstein Staff present: Assistant Planner Toby Kramer Assistant Planner Steve Fiasecki INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLAh'i�3ED DEVELOPMENT USE PERM APPLICATION Ms. Kramer said there we=c no applications, but there had been a request for a temporary sign that could be eonsi Bred at this tiw,. The sign is for the Adamo Bldg. on Homestead Road. A rendering of the proposed sign was displayed. Staff's only concern was that it appeared to be more on the lines of a permanent sign. The sign is mission white background with dark brown letters and is being asked for a 90-day period. After discussion, Member Rogers moved to give temporary approval on Adamo Bldg. 90-day basis on sign as exhibited. The maximum size is to be 9 ft. Temporary ® x 5 ft. Seconded by :•fedher Koenitzer. sign approve 'btion carried, 4-0 UNFIIrISHED BUSINESS The cor-+mittee scheduled a meeting on October 3, 1974 in the Library October 3. Conference Room on Landscaping Guidelines for Saratoga-Sunnyvale 1974 ? ecting Road and Auxiliary Streets. With regard to this study, staff distributed r.opies of design guide- lines furnished by Mr. Coleman. IBC-119 MIMES. OF THE SEPTOISER 19, 1974 2 C8i4T8 1 MMIAAG Page 2 Sign Review Ms. Kramer referred to notes taken during Sign Review ad hoc committee Ash meeting meeting. The next meeting will be on Wednesday, Sep*=:9L:!Y 23, 1974 at 4:30 p.m. Median concerd Member P.ogers asked-if green concrete area in median on Stevens Creek Boulevard could be removed and replaced. Ms. Kcaner'suggested it could be noted the committee did not want this treatment used in any other areas. Chairwoman Sallan said she would like a discussion on this as she had concerns on medians also. She asked members of the committee to give staff written memos of their concerns and a meet- ing set for October. In answer to Member Rogers, I•1s. Kramer said the applicants were encouraged to include landscaping and signinj, as part of their original applications. Chairwoman Sallan spoke to her concern about getting:material too late to give adequate study. APPROVAL OF MINUTEa Minutes of Minutes of September 4, 1974 9/4/74 accepted as On page 2, motion on .Minutes 'of -August 9, 19.74, should, read 3-0-2 a:re-ded and Abstain: Rogers and Sallan. :loved by Member Koenit.zer, seconded by rler-her'Dreasler, to accept Minutes of September 4, 1974 as amended. Motion carried, 4-0 Minutes of Minutes of July 3, 1974 7/3/74 approved Hoved by Member Rogers, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to approve. Minutes of July 3, 1974 as presented. (lotion carried, 4-0 n3o;;e Inn Chairwoman Sallan had a question on Adobe Inn. She noted they were to come back with landscaping plan before modifications were completed. Modifications hadbeen done and no landscaping plans had been sutbmitted. Ms. Kramer said the staff had been contacting them and would continue to do so. Possible means of enforcing conditions of approval were discussed. Chairwoman Sallan suggested writing a policy statement to cover this. k MINUTES OF THE SEPT ER 19, 1974 R-CONTROLMEETING KC-119 Page 3 POSTP©NE14ENT5 Ms. Kramer said Fisherman's Village applicant had said their lawyer might '3e late and they had asked that their hearing be moved forward until ne arrived. The committee agreed to do phis. WRITTEN C0114UNICATIONS A letter from the William P. Cox family regax:diug Westfield Project, copies of which had been distributed. ORAL CO: IL'tiICATIOYS Chairwoman Sallan noted she would be leaving meeting at 10:00 p.m. at which tima Vice-Chairman Koenitzer would chair the meeting. 14evber IDressler introduced a visitor. Chairwoman Sallan noted no item would be initiated after 11:30 p.m. As a part of this announcement, r4.ewber Dressler suggested they as a committee adopt an attitute of efficiency and try to hear more- applications. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. Application HC-51,339 of Ya rritt. Sher (Terranomics Corporation) HC-51,339 requesting approval of architecture for a commercial development Merritt Ser located at the east side of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, south of (Terranomics Silverado Avenue. Continued from H-Control meeting of August 7, Corporation', 1974. Staff report: :Ia. Kramer reminded the committee this had been con- tinued so committee could see samples o :olor of roof material. Samples of the roof and wall material an, architectural plan were displayed. :4s. Kramer pointed out one area of concern to staff; this was with regard tc mietal facade for signing. Ar. :Merritt Suez, 440 Pacific, San Francisco, said the facade would Le dependent on proportions of sign. Tn answer to Member Dressler, 1•Ir. Sher said they would like to have an option of selecting either a low parapet across entire front or two level parapet shoim on exhibits. This would depend on occupants. RC-119 I4II3MES OF THE SEPT'Ll ER 19, 1974 li-COUTROL MEETING Page 4 Member Rogers expressed concern about pine tree on rear elevation. Mr. Sher noted another resident to the rear ::anted the tree. He said he was flexible in terms of what the residents wanted. Mr. Sher pointed out they had met the suggestions of eliminating parking spaces and connecting sidewalk. Member Dressler ascertained the wall would not be slumpstone but concrete block that wo"1d be painted. The meeting was opened for public comment. There :were none. Public Hear-Inj Member Koenitaer moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by closed Member Dressler. Motion carried, 4-0 HC-51,339 Member Dressler recommended approval of HC-51,339 to the City approved w/ Council to approve architecture as presented, subject tofollow- conditions ing condition. (1) ihat the exterior wood trims are to use Olympic stain color #712 and 0715, and the exterior walls are to use a color #6034, Yucca Tan, and that the roof is to use a Rockingham green color #3544. (2) At the time of construction any change of color or shade be approved by City staff. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. Motion carried, 4-0 HC-51,075.41 2. Application HC-51,075.41 of The Westfield Company requesting The Westfield approval of landscaping for two light industrial 'buildings Company located at the southeast corner of the intersection of Pruneridge Avenue and Tantau Avenue. Continued from Li- Coatrol meeting of Septerber 4, 1974. Staff report: Assistant Planner Kramer said With regard to the 8 ft. wall within the 25 ft. setback on Pruneridge Avenue, it had been determined that since this is a Planned Development it could be permitted. The letter from the William Cox family requesting 6 ft, wall instead of 8 ft. wall was noted. MUTES DID THE SEPTE14BER 10, 1974 H-CONTROL 14EETING RC-119 Page 5 Ar. Terry Rosa, Westfield Company representative, said at City Council level it wasn't discussed how far out the wall should extend. He has discussed this with 'Mr. Nau several times The residents of the first three properties to the rear have b4en contacted and apparently they want a 6 ft. wall. fir. Rose said he had taken 4n 8 ft. psnel and put it against the fence; it made a very higii wall. The wall in relationship to the ground grade -yas discussed. C ainroman Sallan noted the landscaping and wall height, plus where wall should begin, were wain issues. Site also asked Mr. Rose to show how revised plans covered committee concerns- of last meeting. Ar. Rose did so. The committee agreed their concerns had been met. Mr. Rose asked about moving lighting standards into individual islands. The standards are only 12 ft. tnd landscaping of any height would interfere with function. 'has committee a-greed.' Tine ;call .,,as next discussed. Mr. Rose pointed out where the 3 ft. wall would start, become 6 ft, and then step up to 8 ft. The meeting was opened to public comment. Mr. Fred Mau, 3894 Prune-ridge, Santa Clara, said he would like the wall at curb end to bc- 4 ft. Member Dressler noted this would make the wall ris:.ng in increments of 4 ft. , 6 ft. and 8 ft. which was a good solution. Ur. Alfred Tyler, 560 Meadow Avenue, Santa Clara, said he was the third property owner from Pruneridge kvenue. He was objecting to the 8 ft.. call_. He pointed out his property could have a fence bot% f ft. tall and 8 ft. tall. He was opposed to any wall, preferring mounding with Low shrubs, but would agree to 6 ft, :fall. He was also concerned about Coast Redwood tree which would hang over on all sides and :could like something not so tall; preferably not much above fence. Chair-:'oman Sallan noted liar concern abort oleanders covering the 4 ft. portion of wall. Herber Koenitzer moved to close Pubiic Bearings, seconded by .Member Public Hear- Rogers. ing closed Notion carried, 4-0 P, f A a 1 -119 ULNU'TES OF THY. SEPM4BER 19, 1S74 H-CONTROLXEE1 NG . Page 6 Nember Koenitze'r moved to recommend approval of landscaping and wall of Application HC-51,075.41 to the City`Council, standard conditions and Exhibit C, 13t Revision, and the following special conditions: (1) Starting at north end of wall will be 4 ft. high from property line of Mr. Ilau to a point aL the north corner of 'Mir. Ilau's garage (approximately 26 ft. from curb) where it will step up to 6 ft. height and continue at that height to the Fouth boundary of the third lot in from street at which point it will step up to 8 ft. and continue at 8 ft. to tbe .south boundary of the industrial property. (2) That additional shrubs be planted in three larger areas in the parking lot. (3) That the parking lot lighting poles be moved away from the landscaped areas so they can fulfill their function of providing lig:it. Height of light is to remain.the same. (4) The Coast Redwood tree opposite third property (14r. Tyler's property) be changed to soine other tree at discretion of staff and moved so thac it is oppoisi:te south boundary of Mr. Tyler's property at paint where wall steps from 6 ft. to 8 ft. The intent its for it: to be a lower type tree. (5) Wall is to be the same color as the painted parts of the building. EC-51,075.41 Seconded by Member Rogers. approved w/ conditions Motion carried, 4-0 Chairwoman Sallan noted the application had been approved and would be before the City Council on October 7, 1974. c HC-51,216.4 ' 3. Application HC-51,21.5.4 of David E. Harper & Associ.ste. David E. � requesting approval. of landsr;ping and ligratin; for a +carper & bowling center And commercial/entertainment development associates located at the southeast corner of Homestead Road and Stelling Road. Continued from H-Control meating of Sept- ember 4, 1974. k ERR rlp�r�. PRIMP 4Ii UTES OF THE SEPTE< EM 19, 1914 H-CONTROL MEETING FCC-119 Page 1 is Staff report: Assistant Planner Kramer noted the reason for the continuation had been so the applicant could research plants that , had been chosen. Changes have been made and are shown on plan. Lighting also had not ae-en approved, mainly because of time. She displayed exisivit and located standards on site plan. The standards are low and no problems are anticipated. It was suggested peth*s' so many benches as had been included in the islands were not a6eeasa Mr. David Harper, 9050 Telephone Road, Downey, noted he had checked with several landscaping firms. He pointed oL_ changes made in the landscaping. With regard to benches, Vnese are in interior planters throughout the parking area. These could have mounding and plants in some and benches and brickwork in others. Mr. Harper displayed bro6nure on lighting standard, uotirg they had increased the number to give uniform, s,Zt light. The temporary turf will be a slow growing rye grass, which will be maintained along with rest of the landscaping. ClairwOmAn Sallan wanted to crake sure screening would.be adequate. She pointed out where it was necessary to have mounding and planting to screen automobiles. _f_ harper explained the proposed mounding and planting and said it would give a full screening effect. He spoke to visual hazard of any high planting at entryways. The proposed areas for interspersing mounds and seating were discuss- ed. The meeting was opened to comments from the public. There were none. 3fember Dressler moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public Public Heari Hearings. closed :lotion carried, 4-0 fe:river Koenitzer moved to recoarnend approval of HC-51,216.4, land- HC-51,216.4 s aping and _ gzti:�g ?_� s, to the i.ity Council with the standard appr.;vad , ccaditions and C L'st C-1 1st !e'Asion, E, item: C, conditions anu tile foliowing special Aanditions: (1) T'nat the applicant be permitted to remove up to half of proposed bend es, replacing them with mounded and planted areas in tie parki-,,u lot. (2) Reserve right to review intensity of lighting after installation. Seconded by ;tetr.Ger Rogers. "lotion carried, 4-0 HC-119 MINUTES OF THE SEPTESBER 19, 1974 H-CONTROL MEETING Page 8 Ch"rw,oman Sallan noted the application had been approved and would be heard by the City Council at its October 7, 1974 meeting, At 8:45 p.m. a recess was called u4th the meeting reconvening a* 10:00 P.M. HC-51,216.41 4. Application HC-51,216.41 of David E. Harper (Brunswick 6runswick Division, Brunswic: Corporation) requesting exception to Corporation Section 6.131 of the Sign Ordinance to allow one (1) shopping center sign and one (1) ground sign in lieu of two (2) shopping center signs for a bowling center and commercial/entertainment development located at the south- east corner of Homestead Poad and Stalling Road. Continued from H-Control meeting of September 4, 1974. Staff report: Assistant Planner Kramer noted the building has 29,219 sq. ft. and is allowed 500 sq. ft. of signing. The pro posed signing is 344 sq. ft. The signs requested are a wall sign with the word "Brunswick" and a logo of a person bowling, an individual ground sign for bowling center and a shopping center identification sign. It has been determined this center qualifies for a shopping identification sign bn each frontage. However applicant wishes. to have one shopping center sign and one bowling center sign. The committee was reminded of the staff°s suggestion that if the shopping center sign is approved, the placement of the shopping center sign should be postponed until at least one other tenant on the site has received approval at the Planning Commission level and that portion of the construction has begun. Fs. Kramer displayed rendering of ground signs. They are 20 ft. in height and 6 £t. in width. Both signs ha- reader board areas. Member Rogers ascertained that Brunswick would be included on the Homestead Center sign also. Removal of the "little man" on mall logo was dis,mssed. .femoer Koenitzer suggested cutting building sign down to 100 sq. ft. ; otherwise he did not object to it. Fie feIL the ground signs should be smaller. He would like to see 'both signs be Homestead Center signs and at the top fourth of tenant part put logo with Bruns,,,iick underneath. Other tenants would be on interchangeable bluck,: oelow it. He would not like to have. reader board sign. He suggested the size be 16 ft. x 5 ft. a :IINUTES OF THE SEFTE24BER 19, 1974 H-CONTROL METING HC-119 Page 9 Chairwoman Sallan said she would like to see it redesigned and how it would be placed in the landscaping. Us Kramer sugg��ted . reducing sign proportionately. With regard to wall sign, Mr. Harper said the canopies extend out and the sign would not be seen except straight on: Xr. Harper asked if there could be some, provision made for league date announcements, etc. This was discussed, but the committee agree a reader board type sign was not desired. The Nearing was opened to public comment. There were none. Member Rogers moved, aeconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Public Hear- Hearing. ing closed Ilea ion carried, 4-0 Member Roenitzer moved to recommend approval of signing of HC-51,216.41 HC-51,216.41 to the City Council with the standard conditions, approved w/ ExAbits F and B, and the following special conditions: conditions (1) That the sign and logo on the building be reduced ® in size by 50% to approximately 100 sq. ft. (2) That both ground signs be Homestead Center ground signs with the Brunswick logo in the top quarter of the tenant sign space. (3) That the ground signs be reduced in size to 16 ft. high x 5 ft. wide with a proportionate reduction in the open space underneath the sign. (4) The committee reserves right to review intensity of illumination of sign. Seconded 'by Berber Dressler. C iaiii-ioman Sallan pointed out it was not an exception being approved � but a c.ange signir.4, It was also ascertained that Brunswick Bowling could be included under logo on ground sign if it could be fitted in. ,lotion carried, 4-0 It was announced the application for signing had been approved and would be heard by the City Council on October 7, 1974. rG-119 MINUTES OF THE SEPTMER 19, 1974 H-COSTRM NEETTNG Page 1£? 5. Application HC--51,313.21 of Fisherman's Village. The applicant's lawyer had not yet arrived so ,hearing on this was continued 'until his arrival. HCI -il,227.2 5. Application RC-51,227.2 of Measu rex Corporation requesting :,easurex approval. of landscaping for Parcel 3 of the Measurex Corporation Corporation located adjacent to and northerly of 121cClellan Road at the inter- section of Bubb Road. Continued from H-Control meeting of September 4, 1974. Staff report: On December 20, 1973, the City Council approved a tentative map for the abandonment of Ir{perial Avenue which created three parcels. Parcel 3 became an unusable -residual piece, a-velop- ment rights of which have been given to the City. The applicant is required to landscape the parcel. It cannot be used for recreation purposes because of size. If a bus route goes into this area, this could be appropriate place for a bus stop. Mr. Wes Burgin, Plant Engineer for Measurex Corporation, referred to condition 18 asking they deed to the City parcel 3 on tentative map,, landscaping as City desired. He said they will also maintain this site in the same condition as all the other landscaping of that area. Mr. Burgin pointed out they are limited in what they can do landscap- ing-wise because of size and traffic flow vision. There is also a pipe line belonging to the Santa Clara County Flood District. Ile explained their landscaping plans. Landscaping goes back 30 ft. onto Southern Pacific property. Member Rogers asked if they had considered including a fountain. Mr. Burgin said they could rather not as they were having trouble with water and drainage in this area. Water and electricity would have to be brought in. It would present a tremendous maintenance problem and double the cost. Chairwoman Sallan asked about flowers that would give color to the area. Ar. Burgin said they were putting in flower beds on their site which wbuld be changed during the year and this ,could be done on parcel 3 if .the committee so approved. Mr. Burgin answered Qiaizwor,tan Sallals that in oiler not to interfere with Southern Pacific and Flood District pipeline, they have had to go to low plantings. The hearing was opened to public comment. There were none. ualic Hearing :=ember Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Rogers, to close Public :osed Hearings. `lotion carried, 4-0 MINUTES OF THE SEPTkffiER 19, 1994 H-CWiMt IMEl 'TIQG' . 1: r119 Page 11 14ember Rogers m^ved to recbm:rend approval of Application ft 51,227.2' HC-51,227.2 with standa-d conditions, and Exhibits A, C-1 and C-2. Seconded by approved Member Dressler. Motion car led, 4--a Chairwoman Salina announced the application had been apprmtved'an4 would be heard by the City Council at its October 7, 1974 meeting. 5. Application NC-51,31.3.21 of Fisherman's Village requesting ' BC-51,313.21 exception to Section 7.021 of the Sign Ordinance to allow an Fisherman's advertising area in excess of the allotted square footage of Village an existing restaurant located on the south side of Stevens Creek Boulevard approximately 200 ft. easterly of Blaney Avenue. Con:.inued from H-Control meeting of September 4, 1974. Staff report: Assistant Planner Krasner gave the background of this application and brought the committee up to date on its status. She noted the applicant had agreed to submit a new sign plan to ASAC for review. The proposed sign was existing pole sign and boat with one modifi- cation; '..he small sign can reading "cocktails" has been removed from; pole The sign area allowed is 135 sq. ft. and the existing sign plus boat would equal approximately 344 sq. ft It was noted the existing pole sign is 20 ft. in height. Slides of site and sign were shown. Mr. J. Robert Dempster, 20325 Stevens Creek Boulevard, attorney for the applicant, answered Member Rogers that there had been no public reaction against the boat. Ise distributed a letter that had been received from a citizest. lie said a letter with 500 signatures indicating approval of the boat had been submitted to the City. Mr. Dempster said they feel the boat is not a sign. There is no lettering or writing indicating advertisement on the boat; it is of historical interest. He said it fits in with the landscaping and becomes part of the recta ura:it facility. There have been no negative reactio:,s 1=rom the customers. He said tneY had removed the "cocktails" caa as e conciliatory move. C?ia:ir.,oman Sall:n noted thc-re was no sign change in application and asked staff for clarification of City Council's intent on a new sign application. ',Is. Kramer read excerpts from minutes and a6 letter to the applicant listing reasons for denial. } IT `11 Mr ,or 4IC-119 HINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBSA I9, 1974 K-CONTROL MEETING . Page 12 Mr. Dempster pointed out the denial from City Council lxad peen on a 3-2 vote. He was told to come back with a reduction,; the amount: was not specified. No conditions were ever set. Minutes could-be interpretdd several ways. GIs. Kramer read from the minutes of March 6. Chairwoman Sallan said she thought it should be coming back with something significantly different. This is a very minor change being proposed. Chairwoman Sallan answered 'Mr. Dempster she was not opposed to boat but perhaps a sign program could be worked out incorporating the boat but changing pole sign. Mr. Dempster said this was the real issue; the City wanted to use the boat as a lever to remove pole sign. Member Koenitzer said specific input should be made on this proposal. He suggested deleting "luncheon" and "dinner" from pole sign, placing them under the canopy. The Fisherman's Village sign could then be lowered to approximately 10 ft. Mr. Scardina, owner, became very upset and said they had made him spend $46,000 on trees and tie had spent $3,000 on boat. Mr. Dempster said they had put a great deal of landscaping there and run a very ' fine business. Fie understood H-Control's position on signs but there are some cases for exception. The size of the boat is not; the point since it really isn't part of the signing. He pointed out they have tried to make it part of the landscaping; City has said "legally" it is part of the signing. Member Koenitzer pointed out the landscaping referred to by Mr. Scardina was under another tenant and had been done to protect residences to the rear. He also pointed out that if the applicant had come in with a proposal before bringing in boat a lot of this might have been avoided. Chairwoman Sallan said the question the committee had to decide Is whether they can approve this application. Mr. Dempster said if th_ boat was construed as part of the landscap- ing there would not be an argument. Calling it part of the sign gave the City a foot in the door to get sign pole rer,,oved. He noted the boat is not lighted in any .ray and cannot even seen after dark. it was ascertained that Member Koenitzer's suggestion of locrering sign was entirely unacceptable to the applicant. Member Dressler said if it is part or tae_ signing and against the ordinance the committee will have to comply with the law. t;amber Rogers indicated slie was not that uncomfortable with the boat. aember Koenitzer said he would like to see a better sign completely. • 11IN ES OF THE SEP I-I HR 19 , 1974 ,,H TRDL NWING ., KC-'19 Fate 133 .hairvoum Sallan 3r ce:a:n,d thin Baas the 52x- eat,sip it�4sy-would propose. The hear-Iug was opened to the public for ccaaents. Mrs. Ann Anger. :40nta Vista, said she had not sent any lette;s-in but had spoken in favor of the boat at the City Council. meetiag She said she did not consider the boat a sign,but a, theme and pointed out how this type of thing was used at several other Fstablfsbventa. The 'boat does have historical meaning, She was very Bauch do fa-.cr of it. :fir. Pat Rogers, 19764 Auburn Drive, supported the applicant's request, speaking as a private citizen. This is different and he does not believe it is offensive. He believes it is-very germsine decorating as it is a seafood restaurant and internal decoration folloruls this theme. Boat, is. a sign_ only indirectly.. He said he: had ran his own poll of 20 nearby residents. Half hadn't no--iced the boat and the other half liked it no--iced T:re cGmcit-tee then referred to section of ordinance covering exceptions. Chairwoman Sallan asked Mr. Dempster which of the find .rigs a C7cu!.d base his request for ar. exception on. Mr.. - D raster said he felt: any of them could be used. C;zainroman . al.lan said this is a case.- where there is an unusual. 3 situa:Uor and she :cut' be in favor of granting exception for sign ?.ogra= es iL eXis'S. The point of whether boat is sign or part of lands, g_ag is a gray area. Member lfaenitzer ncved, seconded by Member Rogers, to close Puhl Hearing. ing Notion carried,. 4-0 � Mexber Rogers moved for adoption of Application EC-51,318.21 with ; t►C-11y - Exhibits P Aral r-1. =t is a sense teat the boat i* not part of the _ iecriau sign out is rath:• r part of tneme of the. dea-2lopment and Cherefore r.•ould not remain or. the premises When :._is `enen- vacates . Secanded by Chairwcma. Sallall. AiES: Member Rogers and G airwomal-. ,ai.l.an NOES: h.ember- Dressicr and Kcenitzer Motion denied, 2-2 It was announced the t ppliclation had beer. denied and would be heard ® by the City Council on vcraoer 7, 1974. HC-119 MINUTES OF THE SEPfE H9 $9.r 1974 -C f. �s Page 14 At 10:40 p.m. Chairwoman San Ilan left and ►ieubc r Koenitaer assumed the chairminsihip. HC-51,075.42 7. Application HC-51.,075.42 of Ehrlich, Heft 6 Aaminger (Hewlett- Hewlett- Packard) requesting approval of site, architecture, landscaping, Packard grading and lighting for''s 1$.ght Industrial building located L:t 11000 `Wolfe Road. Continued from H-Control meeting of September 4, 1974. Staff report; Assistant Planner Kramer gave background of applica- tion, noting construction for Phase 9-1 had to begin by November 5, 1974. Complying with this condition, the applicant is submitting plans for Building 43 within the complex. They will be installing the landscaping and parking areas as outlined on Exhibit A-1 and the perimeter landscaping for the entire Hewlett-Packard property. The staff's concerns were that a sidewalk be put in through the parking lot leading to main entrance and the storage tank on Homestead Road be more adequately screened. .is. Kramer pointed out location of cooling tower; 4 more will be added at a later date'. These will probably not be visible from $ the street. f lae landscaping was reviewed, T_he main concern was the existing trees or, site and that these be preserved and maintained during. grading. Tiie li3htir6 is sat.-a as on existing sites. d Slides were sho-vm of existing buildings and landscaping. Also of madels of proposed buildings. "sir. Jack R. Rominger, 2470 El Camino Real., Palo Alto, introduced three representatives from Hewlett-Packard. He described briefly the rea.sening that went into the planning for this site. 1fie matar'ials will be the same as those used on existing buildings. Air. Rominger raferred to storage tank. The original plan for high dirt nen n h�.i:i beer, reTMoved for safety rea sons. the planking had not gru:r. as fast as anticipated. He suggested they pick up color of building wLich should cause it to recede into background. With Yegard to sidewalk, he ex?laiued how the parking was laid out so people could walk down aisles perpendicular to the buildings. The; haxre found through the years that very few people use sidewalks; } t_hey walk through the lots. They would prefer having landscaping to a=_aatc up different areas of parking but would not take an issue of it. a MIPdMES QF THE SEPT`r ER 19, 1974 H-CDNTRDL MEETING � T4G-319 ' Page 15 Y11r. Raminger explained how the are preposing. te screen the cooling tower cres. He feels the towers will be hidden from view. With regard to the. fence., most people will not: recognize the €-ance Is there as it will be hidden by landscaping. Member Rogers asked about sidewalks for PruLteridge Avenue, Acting, there had been concerns fron Santa Clara residents-that therg j�e sidewalks to the shop;?ing center. These have been planned far, Mr. Romi.nger pointed out location of bicycle racks being proposed # or, site. Mr. Michael Painter, 562 Mission Street, San Francisco, said acacia trees should hide the tank on Homestead Read withi-v the next two years. He felt it was more important to paint it to blend in with the berm. Ife-eaer Koeritzer said he thought the strip leading from parking lot to main entrance was. wide enough to take both sidewalk and planting. 11r. Painter said they would prefer having it landscaped .and bermed. There is 240 ft. to walk from lot to sidewalk and is through as attra.::tively landscaped area. He pointed nut motorcycle parking lot and parking for handicapped- In answer to Member Dressler, Mr. Painter said the perimeter is an extension of existing landscaping and is mounded. There will not be any har . 'eatLh mounds. - The ihea.,Ang -vas opened to public for comments. There were none. Member Rogers moved, seconded by Member Dressler to close Pub: Public _,- Eearings. iags 0: e Motion carried, 3-0 ' Member Rogers moved fpr approval of HC-51,075.42, with Exhibits A, � KC__5'L -? A-1, A-2, B, B-1, C, C-1, C-2, C-3, D, D-1, D•-2, D-3, E an- lnforma- s avvror i Lion, standard conditions and tine followlLng special.condiltions coz3't . ,,,. (1) That the concrete block enclosure of the existing cr nk on y Homestead Road be painted dark brown. (2) That existing trees in interior court be retained. (3) That the developer agree to participate in installation of sidewalks if it be detenrired this is necessary by City Engineer. (4) To conmpljLme<<L. the architects, 14:. Pominger and ::r. Painter. Secouded by Member Dressler. Motion carried, 3-0 IX. :IC--l19 ITNT I-IS, OF THE SEPTE:43SR. 19. . 974 Ix-avfi'P,.n, jlzs,��i?fir Pa�c l� ►12,-.1-airman rc:�e;.'txcsr n a: � t .� '3pl,c.:ti-I' lrac� vc�n : ppcovyd' j alld Wl.;uyl 20 licrrd vy Lhe. Cry i-cmicil at. its taro'-er 7, �974 i mr9tS:ng. e • t•�F .. 13i t'SEt s4 c enl C:_,« ;�C td the- time wa,5°oA t- t1he cut-o i 7uj.7•.i Ti?mt;e oppl{..^', ons is t hestrd 4TCuld b'? first on t:la- aL the tZ.Pkxt �sia.es�:i^R^o} GE "Cctcloer 10, 1-374. r..VI£l7 Of CHANCE Or S 1 i. OF StGV 'FACE. - idone a ncetinI ; Gii Se-pte_ *-2r 30, 1974 at the diwith ,. . a il. t:.i,i.:,::.i_i..::TzerS c:2:I c_Utll2 L..z,_'tl. T The b::iiei.ng in front' o t}ic, theater at Oaks shnpp1,.na lve:,tloned. It,"'lits art-va d thoe. B-mblecarry tip 7-as repcCrt-,&. t i Si c, ,;2v ec. will ;set 14:30 �.Y . CIT. '` aptembe- 25 IyV?. i i i:.`. i..�.:�iu j?.1:. :".I.n,._.vT �L•ctr{c!L's- 1.:�:c••� wd �:' .`e:_ J h • rj t':a� il L•7 adjourn tQ vlac ni-aet,-'og of 3, 1974 at 1: �) -.a. AWROVED rS ji 1 a C. Noncy Sa . 7C hlnmman 4 �;ar. ._lzy •�r,�::iy clerk i i� 1 x ' CITY OF Ct1PERTIN4, STATE OF CALIxORNIf. PAC-120 10.300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California; 95014 Pale 1 Telephone- 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL 'MEETINCI OF TiEE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE r APPPOVAL CO..MITTEE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 24, 1974, IN TI.E COtNI CIL CtWMERS, 'CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNTA The meeting was called to order at 5:17 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan. r ROLL ",.ALL Members present: Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan Members absent; Dressler, Weinstein Staff. present: Robert S: Cowan, Asoistant Planning Director 1. APP il,ation HC-51 075.40 of Vallco Park Ltd. - Discussion of request to modify sound wall for the Vallco Park Regional Shopping Center. Mr. Walcer Ward, representir-- Vallco Park, described the reason for the recucst for mod=ficati 1 of the approved texture for the sound wall.. Aix': Ward explained chat. from. Vallco's point of view, the fire was not cognizant of the fact that Lhe sound wall aparoval spec fic lly regt:ired a-slumpstone texture on both sides of the wall. it had been Vallco Park's intent to utilize a slumpstone texture an the resider.r's side of tbZ fence while utilizing'a broom finished taxtura ou t'r_e shopping center site. Air. Ward explained that because of the dense gr1wth of Redwood trees planted on the westerly property line and the proposal to utilize a climbing vine on the wail itself that the texture facing the shopping center will not be visible. t Mr. Lester, representing Vallco Park, explained that it the City were to require the utilization of a slumpstone texture on both sides, the, initiation of` the. construction for Bullock's would be held up for over a month because of the lead time necessary* to manufacture the double slump cone wall with a O it. panel module. At arprox_r,i_!tel.; 5:30 p.r.:. , th,> Architectural and Site Approval. CoTIiPlj.ttc'e, the staff and tile_, repXP.-z2ntFltiVes from Vallco Part: ieiL tl!e Coun::?.i Cl)ati6ers alit; trav,?Old to the 4:C!7;tErl.d Sear3 parking .Lot to r:..':.ev Lite existing 6 ft. liigh. ir,asonry wall constructed betwee'n Sears and the adjoining resic:!nti.al dwelling units. While at that particular location, the. Architectural and Site Approval Committee members the stuff and Vallco representatives ieveral questions regarding i -te n rowth rate of, tao. e::isting :',,dwoods, the impact of e:cisting pc►wer lii ea on the ability of .hc- 'Red-.Vood Lref.�B to grant and the types of climbing vines th.,t could be vti.1 ized on the wall. hr. ?:ester explained that V'allc;> Park is tiour ne.gotiatino with the 4' HC 120 ' MINUTES OF SPECIAL SEPTEMER 240 1974 H-CONTROL MEETIN(; Page 2 Pacific Gas, and Electric Company ti underground primary lines in connection with the shopping center deveLopment. It was explained that the power lines are currently within the Idlewild Greens Subdivision. 0 While ac the Sears narking lot location, the Committee reviewed the Amherst Drive boundary of the site and took note of the absence of.a redwood screen for the approximate 300 ft. length of the drive as it parallels the shopping center. The Committee, staff and Vallco representatives then drove to the northern terminus of Meadow Drive with- in Santa Clara to review a recently installed section of wall that utilized a broom finish on the Meadow D ive side and a slumpstone texture on the Intersil side. The Committee eviluated the height of the wall as it appeared from Meadow Drive and discussed the texture of the wood facing on the columns and the desirability of placing a redwood cap on top of the wood vertical column elements. Mr. nester from Vailco Park stated that the sound wall built adjacent to the shopp:ng center would incorporate the wood caps on top of the 1 x 12 redwood vertical elements, While on the Intersil side of the parking lot, Chairwoman Sallan and Member Rogers indicated a stronger preference for the slumpstone texture; however, generally concurred that the use of a dense redwood screening anJ climbing plar.t material on the wall woulA °result in the sound wall not being readily seen by individuals within the Center. The Committee unanimously decided that the Portions of the sound wall that are presently screened by dense redwood plantings cold be installed with a slumpstone texture facing the residents and a broom finished texture :facing the shopping center. The Committee concluded that the section of wall paralleling Amherst Drive and rounding the cul-de-sac to a point approximately 20 ft. behind the north curb line of Amherst should be installed with slumpstone texture on both sides. The intent c;f the double slumpstone wall section continuing around the Amherst cul-de-sac and beyond the curb line is to insure that the transi;.ion between double slwnpstone wall and slumpstone/ broom finish texture would be screened by the Redwoods. The 1,200 ft. segment of wall between Amherst and Merritt Drives could be installed with slumpstone fazing the residents and the broom finish facing the Center. The section of wall within the extreme northwest parking area of the Center that has been shifted 4 ft. will be slumpstone on both sides. The wall line in this location will be inboard from the existing row of trees. The Architectural and Site Approval Committee unanimously approved the above mentioned modification. The meeting concluded at approximately 6:20 p.m. in the field at the Intersil site. ATTEST: APPROVIM: ____Y/ — z�'4�a 0 - / Ww. E. Rvi�e , City Clerk C. Nanc S Ilan C rwoman .m . � � ('IT'f OF CL'YERTT,�iO, SATE QF° Ford KC-121 10300 Torre Avenue, C`apertino page 1 Telephone: 252--4505 NUTES OF THE REGM\R ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL"AND. SITE APPROVAL COMITIZE HELD ON OCTORER 3, 1974 IN THE LIBRARY rO,NTMNCE ROOM, CITY HALL, GUPERTIAKI,�"CAi:IFORNIA'- The meeting was called to order of 7:40- p.m. by ;;hairwoman Sallan.` ROLL CALL Members present: Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan Members absent: Weinstein Staff present: Associate Planner Cowan Assistant Planner Kramer Architect presents Jaynes Coleman, Landscape Architect i� Chaire:aman Sallan opened the meeting's diseussiow by askiug that, f members of the committee ontact her if they could not be,-present at a meeting. This was important to ensure there would be a quorum t present. PUb1TC HEARING 1. Landscaping Guidelines for Sar!:;.toga-Sunnyvale Road Parkway , Assistant Planner Kramer went through points that were raised ,at the last meeting. Mr. Colv!aan had been asked to make several additions and changes. She noted these had been done. t Chairwoman Sallan questioned if minimum ara,-tnts of plantings should bc_ addressed. It was felt this could be deckled at time of applica- tion. } aer ;:oenitzer ascertained that majority of trees would be the evergreen with the rest serv).ng as accent trees. Hr. Coleman said it would not mace any difference which way it went. It Lould be any one of Lite three trees in anyamount. Chairwoman Sallaii felt this should be addressed and that majority of trees should be evergreen. Member Koenitzer noted this had been stressed iL the past. t •:'�' < it�x�P•-�. S'";�3`•, � � s� ,��s� �' �� ..�, �� ,'+ �. s �iC-121' HIM ES OF THE OC'TOBER 3 197,4 H-CONTItDL-HENTING r Page 2: Y Street trees were discussed. It appeared deciduous trees would be predominate, fir. Coleman said this would apply only to auxiliary streets.. The Assistant Plane.r then displayed exhibit, showing those areas, of treatment best suited for screening .ears. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out how important this is to people coming into the City to develop. Member Rogers.questioned having bicycle path along roadway.: A straight path set in from traffic would be ,afer. Associate Planner Cowan said the Traffic Engineer had co vinced the staff that inland paths are not used; bicyclists will usually use the road. _ ILQ. Kramer noted Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road has commuter oriented bicycle traffic and for that reason., the lane would be better. Mr. Cowan noted the lane was also easier to maintain than path. Chairwoman Sallan questioned if landscaping area would be suffiiept {{ at bus turnout areas. The Assistant Planner said they could increaQa landscaping on developer's side if the bus turnouts have been placed. Chairwoman Sallan felt minimum landscape setback should be established at bus turnouts. After discussion, it was agreed this could bs handled at time of individual applications. fr.. Coleman said trellis effect of bus stop would be a screening device in itself. e :Lember Koenitzer questioned if some consideration should be gi.veia to ? signs for developments and curb cuts. Mr. Coleman said he felt signs a could fit in. .:zees near the sidewalk would normally be high-branched and signs could he placed under them. !:iairwoman Sallan asked how to state plants should be healthy stock. After discussion, the following criteria were established: (1) steady rate of growth, (2) vigorous, (3) free of defects from insects and disease, (4) good form and size for species and intended use, (5) high quality - good leaf and stem color. On page b, (e) the last line should read "..provide more visual detail -And interest like flowering ground covers, flowering s;?rums and low shrubs (under 3 feet) ." Chairwoman Sallan asked to have a}:hibits included which demonstrated guidelines. The Assistant Plainer pointed out the lrnd3 caping architects would be coming up with their own ideas. Grading was discussed. It was agreed that there should be mention made that grade level of parking lots won1d be closely studied. Chairwoman Sallan asked Mr. Coleman to clarify modification of median are?, Mr. Coleman said he hae added trees, raised height of shrubs and included tree under trellis. r ' m Qa rr k • s MINUTES OIL THE OCTOBER 3, 1974 H-CONTROL KWMG RC-121 t Page 3 i M_ Coleman answered the Associate Planner that median theme would be used at major access or entrances to.major areas. Mr. Coleman answered Member Rogers that he hadn't found a place where a fountain would fit; it should be at some ?cal point such as entrance to City. Chairwoman Sallan asked Mr. Coleman if th,-7ire were any specifics that should be included in the maintenance guidelines. Mr. Coleman said it should be stressed landscaping will be adequately maintained and kept free from weeds; also from insects and disease. After discussion, it was agreed to add (k) to page 8 which would cover this concern. It should also show that plants not adequately maintained will be replaced by the developer. The Associate Planner referred to tool City has to aurment tnirs; he did not know how strong it woua.d be. He suggested perhaps the st£ dard conditions of approval would have to be augmented and revised. At 9:45 p.m. Chairwoman Sallan thanked Mr. Coleman for his coopera- tion, expressing her pleasure with proposed plans. Air. Coleman then left. Chairwoman Sallan noted her concern with median on Bandley Avenue and suggested it be locked at again in the light of these guidelines. It was discussed tic~ best to make changes in words and form and where they should be inst_rted in guidelines. The Assistant Planner suggested each mem`,er should Barite out sugass';ions and turn them in to her. She could then have copies made for the committee for = further discussion. These comments should bc` handed ir, by October 10, 1974. A meeting for further discussion of the landscaping was set for October 17, 1974 -it 4:30 p.m. At 9:58 p.m. the meeting was adjourned to 'the regular fl-Control muting of October 10, 1974 at 7:00 p.m. APPROVED: ATTEST: C. Nancy Salla-1 C rwoman Win. E. R er, City Clerk CITY OF CUPERrINO; ° :Op; � Pagei_ 10300 Torte Avesue, C�ertiuo, California 95014 Telaghona: 252-4505 s pZINtMS OF THE RUMLAR SUING OF THE ASCHITECTURAL AND S APPAj+,COE LLD ON OC:'OBBR 10, 1974, IN TOE COOCIL &4=13RS, CITY HALL=, CUPERTING, CALIFORNIA SAL= TO THE FLAG The meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Vice-Chairman x6enitzer with the SaLute to the Flags ROLL CALL Dressler Kosultzer, Rogers. Maizwoman Members present: Saa.lain (9:00) Members absent: Weinstein Staff present: Assis plannaer Steve Toby X14WIl i Assistant INFORMAL BEVIE4I OF FL4IQNED DEVELOPMENT USE PEZ41T APPLICATION: Assistant Planner Kramer said there were no Planned Development applications. t reque�ti:ag� to: make=mipor architeo-uv4',, _. There was an applic-M proposals for the committees inspection. changes and three sign p P Brunswick Bowling was proposing to change material of building,. Ms. Kramer explained changes' the covaittee had requested the proposed With regard be the sigdes*Mr. Harper was presenting three alternate center sign signs for their consideration. Harper of Brunswick said the material on building was being Mr. Hazy problem on original changed because there would be a delivery Pd. He felt the siding and also because osal wasce had better. Photos building with aesthetics of this Proposal similar treatment were exhibited. The three sign proposals were described. Vice--Chairman Koenitzer oposal with changes as made at last noted he liked the original pr meeting. After discussion, it was agreed to handle the architectural change f and sign proposal separately. HC-121 MINUTES OF THE OCTWER 20 s 1974-S 4- : 0k Wit# u T-I',,, Page 2' _ uE OZ MINUTE ORRDER Member Rogers moved for a Minute Order for approval of.change is building materials as prn-,osed tonight with the exhibits as shown. Seconded by Member Dressler. Mation carried, 34* a It was the consensus of the committee that they would prefer to leave the word "recreation" off the center's sign. Mr. Harper said he *e- €erred this also. It was noted the previous motion made it clear that there would.b*`no reader board areas with moveable letters. MINME ORDER After further discussion, Member Dressler moved for Minute-Order fbr signing of Homestead Center as applicant proposed in Exhibit P 1st revisio-,, that one third of'siga dimensioning shall be used to dfttify applica'.ion as Homestead Center an4 thaat one fourth of remaining area of the sign be used to identify the Rat:titswIck Sowling and billiards as business will be conducted by the applicant. The over all dimensions of the sign shall be as previously appro Md and that the City rbebms x right to review lighting Intensity after iistellation. Seconded by z Member Rogers. Motion carried, 3+0. Assistant Planner Kramer then reported on Member Kcenitzer's gttw"Un regarding building in Oaks Shopping Center. The building- Was plate i to be two stories but bas been changed t&;one story With'higb-, toof:ling. Mi. Kramer also noted there were two applications on. aagenda that needed to be heard in order to start building before.the rslny' season. It was agreed to extend meeting past the 11:30 p.m. cut off period if necessary. APPROV.;L OF MINUTES Minutes of September 16, 1974 Minutes of Since only two of the members who had been at the meeting were present, 9/16/74 Member Rogers moved to continue approval of these minutes to the next continued meeting. Seconded by Member Dressler. MotiOTL carried• 3-0 S WEN k. M ESS OF THE OCTOBER 10, 1974 E-CONTWL M MG RC-122 Page 3 Lutes of September 19, 1974 On page 3,:g lest.paragraph ,the-second-line ashpuld goad I—an option ...of atellectfng-:e their a lass plt- across 6a °gsant *r two 'level perapet ;shoran an exhibits.: Th1s On page 6, condition (1), the third line should .read ".:.of -Mr'.:" Mau's garage (approximately 26 ft. from curb) where it will..... °t Qs, at . last piragra#h,, .tfie t&id line should read 1%6tb,sigqs be Romestead." Also fourth .line should read "and et,the.tap faluo-of tenant part but bowler- logo with Brunswick underneath." , On Page 16,, the second paragraph under NEW BUSINESS should r ad "The building in front- of. the. theater at the Oaks Shopping ." Minutes of 9/19/74 Member Rogers moved for approval of Minutes of September 19, 1974 approved as as amended. Secondsd .by Member" Dressler, _: , amended Motrion carried;: 1,0,, ; Minutes! of :September 24, 1974 Sipe theme!were only two members -present at :the. September:24,- 1974 ® medting whop Vtre in attendance,now;r Hember Dressler. moved; to. del=sy- approval of Minutes of September 24,, 1974. Seconded ;by. Member Rogers. Minutes of 9/24/74 Motion. carried,: 3-0 continued POSTPONEMENIS None WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. Application HC-51,341.1 of Alice P. Siegrist requesting approva HC-51,341.1 of site, architecture, landscaping, grading and lighting for. Alice P. the -expansio-i of an existing shopping center located at Siegrist 10215, 10225 and 10235 South Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. . Con--, t#Hued from H-Control meeting of September 19, 1974. ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE MINUTES 11 of 12 01/03/1973 12/19/1974 RC-122 MI..mMES OF THE OCTOBER 10. 1974 H-CCOTROL M11MG Page 4 Staff report: Assistant Planner Kramer located shopping center in and.zoning:was }approved-bg*tht City ;' gusstic s,„noting a permit hambees,ap�grovad.to Alum Gosmstil;on <Aug� .19s 1b974. The pat king a reduction from 61 to 57 stalls. This w3s :�s >foV 9.5 ft. stalls. There is no leaway for fuser reduction of parking to allow for landscaping. It was requ ested an over all sign program be designed; the applicant has, requested the ground sign be Continued to a1l6w`h n elf.`'t t o contact U-Save Liquor. Site plan and architectural changes were exhibited. The mama corn was the rear elevation of building. Applicant has made- changes reflecting this concern. Slides were shown of site and existing-buildings• There is,an exi.stime`bouse which will Le torn down. Another building i doctor's office is not a part of this property. used at present ¢n In answer to Vice-Chairman Koenitzer, Kramer said the ��building could be expanded at later date even though, {*a>�ng. meet requirements. Vice-Chairman Koenitzer said his main concern was the north elevation which has -no architectasaall blank faca� the doctor'& office is later torn dowses. a coz�plete y will be facing north on Saratoga-Sunnyva?' Road- Mr. Jim Moreland, 39 E. Main Street, Los Gatos, said the only improve- ment to, site would be the landscaping berm. The utilities would not be undergrounded. Mr. Moreland explained partial two-story design. Portions of the corridor on aecon�l .s�� rki.ng in the rear withll be open but most oa imall�tYpeewalkwayed. There will be employ pa to front of building. Mr. Moreland answered Member Dressler that the colors will 'Je typical of surrounding buildings. Mr. Moreland said they would like to change the arch on wiasdows to a square window treatment as the cost of the arches was prohibitive. No change was being proposed in the grading. with regard to Landscaping, Vice-Chairman Koenitzer aummarized comments submitted by Chairwoman Sallan. Ms. Sallann feels the landscaping is too sparse. There needs to be mounding is the 12 ft. strip ;BLI09 g Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. There also need to be plants along the building front under overhang. MUMM OF THE CILq'�►i BER 10, 1974 B-CONTRoL MH in. O C-122 Page 5 Mr. Moreld.mm��ai¢ted..ltdscapiag plea. The 1Z-ft. sadp ,A r mounded and there will nosbe a lack of planting. 1heie are Three medlum;size trees, three large.shrubs.>and ground co isr on molding. There is much. denser planting an corner s�,nce the mound .is not so � a hi.gts. . In answer to Vice-Chairman Koenitzer, Mr. foreland sa d .the-mound was about 4 ft. high. Mr. Koeoi.tzer noted this was ton steep for a 12 ft. strip. A 2 ft. mound with rounded slope was suggested. Be also pointed out the three trees are deciduous so at least a fourth of the year Will not. pxovide any screening. The threes are 30 ft. apart with only three shrubs; should be much denser. Mr. Moreland suggested integrating ph;.-inia clustered behind trees to fill in void.- In answer,to Vice-Chairman Koenitzer's,concern_about deciduogs trees, Mr. Moreland suggested camphor trees, Ms. Kramer.said these were on the list of recommended trees It was decided to change the tree in front of building :to pittis- porum since proposed tree was a sharp pointed leafftype adjacent to parking area: ® Planter boxes, under oveshamg ,to soften building, were. discussed. Member Dressler pointed out this was a walkway sac Baas covired which would make it difficult to grow things. Mr. Moreland pointed out proposed locations of bicycle racks. With regard to lighting, Mr. Moreland said the lights on rear elevation were mainly to light alley and doorq for security purpi'les There are existing lights now. He described the lighting plan. Vice-Chairman Koenitzer noted the signing was to be continued, but directed the applicant's attentions to guidelines and discussions, ,-,, held on sign size and asked that these be taken under consideration when signing program was presented. Mr. Moreland said the sign in front would be removed, but he did not know what U-Save Liquor would agree to. They would be coming back soon with completed proposal. Vice-Chairman Koenitzer noted this was a Public Hearing and opened the wreting for comments. There were none. Member Dressler moved, seconded by Member Rogers, to close Public Public Hear- Hearing. # ing closed Motion carried, 3-0 a KC-122 MINtTPES OF THE OCTOBFR 10, 1974 M-CONTROL PiS VIA Page b z }may f HC-51,341.1 Member Dressler moved to recommend approval of HC-51,341e1 to the approved w/ City Council with enclosures A, B-2nd Revision and C, subject to conditions standard conditf�ns � 'the, fAlo f i9P (1)' The 6011i6itt"te Ald0ed;*o -change ffi i wiitidoa+ aigti'fit store" fraiii tii" e '94iare A4iodote,do opP<'sed'td a�reh windows as presented. (2) Applicant add i2"pfiotinia in clusters of 3 to ihd front mounding in front of parking areao licant substijtute'si 2f c foe piers `rigs (3) Apo amplrar trees . throughout the landscaping pleat• (4) To orange the flax plant In front of the building to pittisporum. (5) The City have+ the authority to review },ighting'for intensity after completion of project. " (6) To continue the signing of building for another appli- cation, (7) To add bicycle racks as presented by the applf4"ci R (8) To compliment applicant on architectural 'tteattbdnt ,of building. Seconded by Member Rogers. AYES: Members Dressler, Rogers, Vice-Chairman Roenitzer NOES: None Motion carried, 3 The applicant was advised his application would now be-beard by the City Council at its next greeting. HC-51,075A61 2• Application HC-51,075,361 of The Westfield Company requesting The Westfield exception to Section 6.042 of the Sign Ordinance to allow two Company (2) ground signs to be located on one (1) parcel for an exist- ing light industrial building located at the southwest dozaer of Pruneridge Avenue 'and Tantau Avenue. Continued from V- Control maeting of September 19, 1974. t MIMES OF THE OCTOBEtt ,10', 1974 M- tl BOO. 11C-1.22 Page 7 Staff - report: Assistant Planner Kramer rioted the building-p i g.3n. question was owned by the Westfield Company in, Vallco Pats;. . The , sign area allowed is 500 sq. ft.and,110` sq. ft. is being requested. The applicant is requesting two ground signs, 4 ft. x 3 ft. to be placed across from two entrances of building. She pointed out the. entrances on plan layout. The sign will be redwood panel between two concrete posts. Slides were shown of the. site. Ms. Kramer read page 667 of Sign Qrdinance, Section 6.042, which state; more than one sign could be permitted on lots with more than 210 ft. frontage if exception is granted. Mr. Terry Rose, Westfield Company representative, said they now have two tenants who are using one half and one fourth of the building respectively. They have allowed the tenants to place small signs adjacent to doors for identification purposes. In answer to Member Rogers, Mr. Rose said they did not anticipate having any more signs even though there might be other tenants Vice-Chairman Koenitzer noted Chairwoman Sallan's suggestion that signs be moved furt,,er apart and that if the building is occupied in the future by only one tenant, there should be Ay one sign. :Ir. Rose said this had been discussed and explained proposed function of two signs under this circumstance. Mr. Pose answered Member Dressler it would be the same color as material in lower portion of building.. Signs were designed to fit: with the building. The meeting was then opened to public comment. A resident of November Drive, San Jose, asked if this sign could in the future be turned into a gaudy sign. sir. Rose said �--here wou1.: be no lights on the signs. Vice-Chairman Koenitzer said each app. i- cation had to be. approved by the City and assured her this would note occur. r Member Dressler raave.d to close Public Hearings. Seconded b) .famber f Pub.li c Rogers. ing=: Motion carried, 3-0 l 4 . K . 6 . v; Eta a IIC�-122 MINUTES OF THE OCTOBEF. 10, 1.9,74 M-CONTP.0L ING, ; Pane 8 IIC-5+.,075.361 Member brew sler moved to recomend approval of ft-51.,075.361 as , ?pprt;,a.l 1 presented'in Exhibits F and F-1 to the City Council, subject to standard conditions. Seconded by Member Rogers. AYES: Ifembets Dreacler, Rogers, `Dice--Oaii%iian Koenitzer NOES: None Metion cat vied, 3-0 Mr. Rose was notified his application had been approved an€' would be heard at the next City Council meting. iiC-51,34?_,1 3. Application HC--51,142.1 of Ad-Art, Inc. (Brentwood Market) Ad-Art, I: ; , requesting approval of a sign place for an existing co.msercial (Brentwood development located at 10075 East Instates Drive. Continued `•Iarket) from H-Control meeting of September 19, 1974. Staff report: Assistant Manner Kramer noted the Mayfair chain had been taken over by Brentwood and the- applicant is proposing. to replace the, two existing wall signs with one wall sign and the pole sign with a small can. Slides were shown of existing building and the s3,-�r►s -that would be rep?aced. ' ,is. Kramer oointed out the sign that would be removed. She noted the staff's concern that wall: area behind existing sign be repainted when the signs were exchanged, or removed. The applicant has been given two alternatives: The entire po.ie v-1-1ich is 30 ft. in height, can be modified at this time to comply with the Sign Ordinance and the Sign Guidelines adopt.-d !!! by the City. This would mcau reducing the pale to a maximum of 20 €t, and possibly redesigning the structure. Or the app�_icant can proceed with Jest the change of copy for Brentwood's with the condition that he will agree to me--dify the entire sign structure in January_ of 1976 in compliance kith the Sign Ordinance in effect ii at that time. i Vi_co-Chairman Kozritzer pointed out they don't seem ro have a grip to came up with u ;Wore consistent site t:lain for the center. There should be some way to improve_ ceriter at ienst with regard to Cie signs. Mr. Mel Peterson, 171.3 +54tfi Street, Emery•x3lie, said they have no quarrel with staff. With regard to painting, tie understands the owner intends to talc care of any nacessaty painting. a ,.< �;' 3.. '2 "`fit a .,�, a ;e•,a; i a�'?'.'".,-„ ,P'y OEM MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 10, 1974 H-+ -MOL 11EETEN G KC-I22 Page 9 The major prob_lam is the f-ee standing sign. He referred to.options being given and said the only problem is existing market which no luuger operates in northern California and the tenant identification beneath. Mr. Peterson noted they have no control over other tenants. The amortization perioe was questioned. 14s. Kramer said it had not been established but that the applicant would be forfeiting this amortization period. Mr. Peterson pointed out the sign is within existing ordinance; Ms. Kramer clarified that the height was not. Mr..Peterson said they did not wish to inhibit over all improvement of center but they need to identify. He offered a compromise; they would accept approval of free standing sign that eliminates :something that doesn't , exist with a smaller size and accept amortization period as shown in nek ordinance. He said his client's Intent is to upgrade market as quickly as possible. Meuber Rogers asked what tie .was proposing as compromise on free standing signing. Mr. Peterson said they would remove approximately 13 ft. and reduce their can to 4 ft. He reiterated they had no control over any signs below theirs. The other tenants are not willing to relinquish their rights. Member Rogers noted she would like entire area upgraded. Mr,. Peter- son said this would be a point of joint venture in terms of City, client and pressure brought to bear on landlord. Brentwood is willing to spend money on rroportonrate basis for upgrading site. Assistant Planner Kramer explained amortization period policy for this sign. tor. Peterson said they had discussed change of copy. To change .opy would cost about three times as much as they are proposing. Present sign is much more garish than what is proposed, Piember Dressler asked if Brentwood would consider going on bottom of pole. :sir. Peterson suggested eliminating staggered -!ffect of existing tenant cans and place in square area which would reduce spread and they could still be on top. He said he didn't know if this was pos_iible. In answer to Vice-Chairman Koenitzer, :•s. Kramer said if sign is approved, the application could be ;:;:;:roved as temporary with options which will be given to sib,,,:: ,after new ordinance in effect. Chairwoman Sallan arrived at 9:00 p.m. She noted this is similar situation to Planned Developmeat ordinance. The applicant should consider either option 1 or 2. She read them to the applicant-. HC-122 MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER id. l'1974 '11-00i+1Tiall, 7.4EETIMC; , Pae10 Mr. Petersen srAd again he did not cone rpL entire sign. The best he coull do vies bench then together. Kc noted they were only request- ing to change panel to cooperate with City's desire for improvement. a Assistant Planner Kramer suggested appioving sign on building and attempting .to work out something with o,!ner and other tenants. Mr. Peterson agreed. However he wanted the record to reflect that they would have ability to ptit ,panel b,,.ck up; they want` it out now from advertising standpoint; however, when decision ._4 made that change of copy is agreeable, they will be able to ,out it back on the pole. Chairwoman Sallan felt application should be evaluated under intent of new ordinance; Ms. Kramer pointed out application would have to be considered under what is now law. Chu naoman Sallan asked for clarification of landscaping intent. Mr. neterson said the policy of Brentwood is to operate in the best looking facilities possible and they *could pay their propor- tionate share when the center was upgraded. He noted the landlord had said something about considering upgrading in the near future. 41 The hearing was opened for comments from the audience. There were none. rtii Die* Hear- Chairwoman Sallan moved, seconded by Y=etsber Rogers, to close Public i.t:S closed Hearing. Motion carried,- 4-0 JC• 51, 342.1 Membn. Rogers moved for appreval of application HC-51,341.1, location approved ea/ N p, Exhibits '>+ and F-1, in regard to the sign on the face of the r.endit.iolls building as proposed and the understanding that any repainting ,00uld be done as necessary, and to postpone the consideratior of the ground sign until a time not to exceed 60 days. The present free standing sign may be modified to the extent of removing Mayfair portion of sign on a temporavy basis with a possible rc.i.ns tall ation with copy charge as approved by the committee. Seconded by Chairwoman Sallan. AY S: Memaers Oressler, K-,,eni.tzer, Rogers, hairwoman Sallan 140ES: None Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant way notified the approved portion of application would be heard by the City Council at its next regular meeLing. 4 , 11INaES OF THE OCTOBER 10, 1374 'H-0014T £OL XCE ING KC-122 Page 11 At 9:30 p.m, a recees was announced with the meeting reconvening at 9:35 p.m. at which time Chairdoman Sallsn, reassumed the chair. 4. Application 1iC-51,027.111 of Cupertino To%.,n Center requesting HC-51,027.111 approval of a directory sign for att offic,(;; complex located at Cupertino the east side of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road ii:.1 Town Center Lane. Tcm•n Center continued from H-Control meeting of September 19, 1974. Staff report: Assistant Planner Piasecki said the sign being requested is a single-faced, freestanding directory sign for the leasing office. The sign will be visible from the street. The sign program for the Cupertino Town Center neglected to specify all�iwable number and location within the center. however, there are numerous signs through the center which indicate the telephone number for leasing information; in addition, there are two small signs placed along Town Center Lane directing the passing motorist to the leasing office. A dra-wing of sign was displayed to the committee, The sign will be 4 ft. x 5 ft. and will be 6 ft. 4 inchf!s off the ground. Slides were shown of the site, and proposed location of sign pointed out. Member Koenitzer ascertained the existing sign is 5 ft. in height. � Mr. Piasecki pointed out the possibility of serving the intended purpose by relocating the sign in an area where motorists will not potentially inhibit traffic flow or by incorporating :his sign_ into the existing directory signs located throughout the cent.*-. Mr. Ron Mastel, 755 Chestnut, San Jose, said this sign was needed to keep other tenants from being pestered. Existing directory doesn't seem to suffice. ih's is their initial attempt to rectify problem. Met-ber KoenitzE r said this was advertising to traffic on Saratoga- Sunnyvale Road and he elt there were other :nays of getting tenants. Mr. its:stel pointed o:it height is not objectionable because of f.oliag and colors are earth tones. He cLsbested a temporary conditional use; they would be receptive to ary suggestions or comments from the committee. q 07 !it"--122 M.TNUTES OF THE OCTOBER 10, 1974 U-COiTWL MEETING i"9£E 12 Chairwoman Sallan said they could redesign this vign. She a.sl(ed where n61oa t people parked. 2L5. Lydia Wlentz, 1.0358 So. bi mey, Cupertino;, said the existing sign is basically telling who is in Center without giving locale. The other ' tenants are unhappy because rhey are beirng interrupted to direct people to the leasing office. The present sign was described and discussed. Hember Koeni.tzer { ascertained leasing portion of sign is twice as large as other signs on directory board. Chairwoman Sallan said the C;_ty of Cupertine 's concern is that there not be more signing than is necessary. There are other centers -Around who use the same or similar approach. Member oenitzer suggested abetter sign o, directory at Saratoga Sunnyvale Road. C[nainaoxaa Sallan the committee was having trouble approving this sign cv. major, frontage. She suggested the ! applicant explore �. *il staff how to serve their purpose caith y interior signs. :C-�1.,U7.7.111 Member Koeoitzqr moved to continue 11IC-51,027.111 to the next to regular meeting to dive applicant time to work with staff and r-igul<tr explore possible solutions. Seconded by Member Rogers. t l i{J Motion carried, 4--0 The applicant .gas informed the next regular meeting would be on October 24, 1974. '. ,:2:7.7.4 { Application HC-51,027_l4 of James W. Foug & Associates ,...._; •1. 1=oeig" (Security Pacific National Bank) requesting approval of a ::.ci3tes sign plan for a hank facility located at the northeast corner of Paci;:ica Drive and ,aratoga-Sunnyvale: Rra1. t Continued from il-C•mtrul meeting of Sopterber 1.9, 1974. e St:ZJi 1-1port: ASSi:;ttlr,t rlanc,er Kramer gave bac,.grotnd o" 4his application. The applicant has returned wit!, new over all sign . program which includes t'ao wall signs and interior directory signs. # One wall sign is a hanging si€,n on the suut'.•:lern elevatior. B.tn wall si.&1s are 18 ft.. 4 inches. Chainroman Sa.11ar: ascertained the hanging sign was 8 ft. from ground level. She was concerned that it could not look attractive. The sign will- only be 24 ft. from sidewalk. s. sn 'rn tit MINUTES OF THE C "TQBER. 10, 1974 H-G(?NT L 'ICE° TIt�t� 22 . .. Page 13 ltle.mbcr Koaiiit7er suggested patting logo on flat portion of .southe4i elevation. l-lr. Ray Clark, Security P.+"clfic Bank, Los An grles, said the building, is half way f�ni.shed and wil? be opening in. about 8 weeks. He would like to resolve sometiiing ronight as the; are in a hind ticnewise. Mr. Clark said the letters on hanging sign are 10 incites. Tlie !_r, ffic does not see parallel sign and they need a perpenc'_icis.l.ar sign. The signs are in complete accordance with the o,.d -:z.nce; are in fact: less that: half what is allowed. h4ember Dressier asked _'r. Clark about putting logo on wall. Mr. Clark said the :might of logo wouid put it within 3 ft. of :he ground and it is not meaningful by itself. Chairwoman ct.11an pointe' out tlne:re is no landscaping on this elevation to obstruct tiislbili.Ly. She asked if it aere possible to reduce si zc-: of logo. <`r. Clark said it was possible b-L.t not feasible and -'cceptabl.e to the. bank. Chia.!-r;7orr .r. Sollan rioted she was n.-it happy 4,i.:7. Pacific, Drive e lj(surer rrd :.ondered hog* much p l.-Aati.ng h-d gaite iaLo it. [•`r. Clark c_icy the banging sign was , iily an alterr•a_e. since r:F•a stand- ing sig,i as denied. ii,e motor. °..•r.nking sign was discussed. ?Ir. Cla-ik asked if it would be possible to eter-wis:e fCeelzngr or committee kind if it is indicated a denial unuld ce given, he asked � the commi tce to work ouL a solution. Member Koer_it-Lar said he had no trouble ttiith.sign on west sLrface and motor ban!: sign could be lived with; he YiLd commented or. the original application that ine did nor want sign on south elevation. Meni:,er R.oge;s- a.Ae�1 in view of time constra_ii U and Since City Council wou''.d not be meeting on Octobe- 21, �:ould he work with staff and r_vltinue to October 2=1 R-Control ri:x-.etir.g. x D,-essl st7�ae—tee thu ci,.w,.,.tt<ee appl.')4." S'. ,1 Lin i?L';C is C.le�'3t:1o11 !':t `tit' 3r iJT_1( 8! C u C'J!:!e .lc;�. with. .-',_ other ai.plicirl !n f r t 6Clalt t?_1.2V�ticaif. Mr. Clark said the bui ldins; is at stage where they must provit!e for the signs . Ie showed ,, si.ide r(.,ridering of ',:%:iisin; sign. Since it would appear ri:c t_ppii.a• ;'..: '.ioule be dt:�"�:'�d, Mr. Clark proposed having s:igris ,:) east and west C 1( vf(t it�n ® I'he meeting was opened f0 C:U!!Lni--jjts from the public. There were none. 4 a �.,,�a. } - �' ts,7t` ,t.=. tr Mw 4 "s.k' s gn ' '• :,,`wr 11C-122 MINUTES of THE Ow'Tt)1 ER 10, 1914` H-COVAOL 'AUTZSW ?age 14 Publics I.:--ar- Membcr Rogers moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to cl?Jse ing closed Public bearings. Motion carried,.<4-=0. ' 71,017.1.4 4leriber Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC-51,0. 7.14 to t,pproved raj the City Council with the standard conditions; Exhibit F-2nd conditions + Re vi Sion and wiLb the following special conditions: (1) That there be na sign on the south facade of the building. (2) That there be a sign on east facade of building which duplicates in site and appearance the sign on west side of building. (3) Other signs, Moror Banking, Clearance and Traffic control signs, are included in the approval. secoa:ied by Member Rogers. +Y-S: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoma-i Sallan x NOES. None : gMotion carried, 4-0 i Chalrauman Sallan noted the application had been approved and would be heard b3 the Cit • Comcil at their next regular meeting. Chair.-co man Sallan expressed appreciation to the applicant for his -cooperation. iir. Clark said he would red.aw plans for presentation to City Council. Ile co-imTended committee for settiz:g goals high and sticking to them. t S i i`C.:-51,1.99.3 b . Application HC-51,199.3 of Wi.nchell's Donut House. (i,lcClellan 7•7,cheI a ,s Square Shopping Ce ater) requesting exception to Sect-f on 7.02 !!ouse of the Sign Or.d:i_ ancc� to al.lo�r sign area in excess of the allotted square oot:age for a donut i,cu;e located in McClellan i Square Shop -ing at the nortik%,,e.st corner of Ss:otoga- S.:nnyvale i:oad and 'HcClellan Road. j St,^iff report: Assistant Pl;-inner Piasecki notes' th req;.;est is for a second sign identical to "he e:ti ;tine one, b,.it l.oc� ,ed on the side o- tLe store facing McClellan Read, '11•►e ann:.icant is allowed 37.5 i sq. ft. rand the seco_.i sign would brig thf� total to 30 sq. ft. MINMES OF THE OCTOBER 10, 1974 H-WNTROL MEETING BC-122 Page 15 Pictures brought in by the applicant. showed window signs being ' displayed which are not alYdaed. - ,"4 A letter -submitted' by a resident in -the area objecting' tir'#i#if e sign was noted. Staff report stressed the following major points should bn�coksf e (1) The Sign Ordinance requires that the applicant identify the exceptional or extraordinary circumstances applicable to'' this particular application which do not apply generally`'to other buildings in the same area. Simila-y, it requires the applicant to- show that granting of the exception is necessary for the enjoyment of a substantial property right. (2) Ilie applicant is proposing to locate the sign facing an existing residential neighborhood. (3) The exieting: signs"mounted on the front of the stogy, identifies the business to motorists' traveling west� an McClellan Road and north an6 south on Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road-. The proposed sign wil serve- to identify the = business to motorists traveling east on Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road only. - (4) The applicant is requesting a 1002 exception from the sign area regulatio-s of the zoning ordinance. Mr. Maras Zimmerman, Winchell's Donut House, introduced the owner of McCle1.1as Square. Mr.- Roiia d E. Calms, 3804 Woodcreek Lane, San Jose, said after` consulting pits:- the Board of Directors of McClellan Square they had decided there were no objections on their part. He indicated their support of this application. Mr. John R. MacKay, 5298 Lindley Avenue, Encino, California said he was head of signing program for Wincbell's in southern California. He commented he had sac through many such meetings and this was the only comittee that dealt with the philosophy of signing rather than the letter of the ordinance as most Planning Commission's did. Mr. MacKay gave their reasons for asking for more signing. He noted their average sale is 42c, much lower than most businesses. When there are limitations as stringent as this, it makes it very diffi- cult on their managers. He referred to photos, noting they are 300 ft . from major highway with gas station, bank, and Samba's between them and street. They need all the exposure they can get. a 4 c r .r, 9, �,, .y,,,r '. a ,".x xa'_ ' T, d s x ne, u HC-122; MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 10, 3974 H-+C@NTROL METING Page 16 Mr. MacKay displayed drawiug ,of monument type sign they, wcul, '4pU4,6 is _place on wound in front of their store. Member Koeritzer said they must show there are exceptional o� extraordinary circumstances. He referred to Clint's who pare ; operating under the same restrictions. He could not see where any of these reasons for an exception would apply to Wiaachel,11, ; that did not apply to the other shops in the center as well. Member Rogers asked if the business was suffering beca"e, of under- exposure. Mr. MacKay said they had opened three storeu;within one !eek and Cupertino. has fared less well :ban the others. The other cwo stores, have much better signing. This is the only relevant difference.. Member Dressler was answered by Mr. MacKay that every document with center showed three signs .that had been approved by. everyone, to as late as May, 1974. It wasn't until they carte for permit that they.. realized there would only._be.owe sign, Mr. ,MacKay*- noted Winchell's, needs .an .excess of 700 customers a day._ Member Dressler. suggested a monument type sign on, moin4ii;g for all tenants-. .This would only give ,them-exposure from the-pa st but - Mr. MacKay pointed out this was a larger number of cars.,;= Chairwoman 5allan noted the committee was not in .favor �f granting application but they did undersrand,problem. She asked the applicant if they would like to go back to owner and design a sign for. McClellan Square which would face McClellan Street.: Assistant Planner Kramer questioned readability of such a sign and referred to n<U&,ors directly oppos-ite the shopp-.ng .center. She suggested it be placed toward Hig'r_way 9. Mr. MacKay asked-,:,,-,. _ about monument sign if other tenants were not interested in sharing sign. Ms. Kramer named individual signs that are already an- the parcel. Mr. Piasecki pointed out ordinance allows two shopping center signs not an individual tenant sign. Member Dressler felt exposure from the east was a problem but a solution should be considered for all tenants. After further discussion, Mr. Cali noted he would 'Like to talk to his Board of Ditect-ors and the applicant asked for a continua- tion. Mr. Piasecki gave the applicant a copy of traffic study and Ms. Kramer suggested they come in and discuss with the traffic engineer. The meeting was opened to comments from the audience. There were none. t f 1-- i MIMES 017 THE OCTOHER 10, 1974 H-COHftL MEETING _ > ' ; < BC-122 i'.�ge 17 kev6-si Koenitser moved to continue to meat regular meeting on HC-51,199. 3 Octeber 24, 1974. Seconded by Member Rogers. continued Ntoton carried, 4-0' 7. Application HC-51,344.1 of Mackay & Somps (Ponderosa Hcmes) HC-51,344.1 requesting approval of modification of landscaping fot,a Mackay & residential development located at the northeast corner.of Somps Orange Avenue and :McClellan Road. Staff report: A condition of approval ot, tentative map was that any tree removal would be subject to H-Control approval. The property was located and the trees under consideration were pointed out. There are a number of Prune and Almond trees in poor condi- tion. The trees that thq.applicant was proposing to save were exhibited. Staff is in agreement with these-choices- and also su$gest6d that the`Almond tree on Lot 17, the two Pines on Lot 15 and' the 30 Pepper tree in front of Lot 6 be saved. The City and the developer have agreed to modify the sidewalk and cul-de-sac in order to save the Pepper tree. The real problem relates to the grading around the tree. A tree surgeon will be required to submit 'a'• report to the' City► stating whether the tree can be retained and make appropriate suggestions for maintaining the tree during and after construction. Member Koenitzer was told the committee could not require any change in layout. Chairwoman Sallan said it was another after-the fact' ` situation. It was difficult to rectify and correct in terms of land use. She had two suggestions: (a) A tree ordinance speaking to specific type and size that should be saved and (b) it should be resolved at planning level taking into account the possibility that he intensity and density of the development may have to be modified because of the trees. She noted this could be the beginning of dialogue on how this problem should be handled. Member Dressier said specimen trees should be saved but the orchard trees will die out in cycle anyhow. Member Koenitzer noted the V diameter Pine and the 1" diameter redwood can be replaced and grown o this height within two years. 5" scrub Oak could be considered; Pepper tree should be saved. He wondered what could be done if you can't say draw a pl -. that doesn't involve trees. d aty s4 HC-122 141NWM OF THE OCTOBT.A 19, Page is Meer Rogers said somethin$..should be,conaide_red at the pr- lIL $ ' review oz`Planning CufmnissioA level. ipirr. Steve Hawley., pgnderosa Homes, said they had just gotten final map ect to tree removal approval by from City Council Monday night, ses ames will cost $6S,g0U.C�0 and up this committee. He said these n . Mr. tiaaley said they also want .to save as menY trees as passible. With reference to redwood trees on Lot 15, from a.practical standpoict they .-ill put in some other sgecimen, trees rather than try to,.save these. With regard to Pepper tree, it is a hardy tree and they will do everything in their power to_aave the tree as it will enhance, everything of Lot 6. Mr. Hawley said'if the tree is as shown, �l be able t® protect it corner of back side of house, tbey-� as le tO; Y,sts ct easier than if it were out in the walkway wn The tree _surgeon had said the 'pest 'way, to protect it during eat grading operations is to matte it Blear to the sA fen t. cause that the tree is to be protected stall cost. Aznce ,maY a .more harm to the tree. Mr. Hawley said they would save the Pines if Possible;..the Olive tree on '.ot 8 can be saved. The would rather substitute another tree for the AlmondOt. y 17 as the tree does not..look that good and there wiil,be ,filling• { The Avocado on Lot d. 14 will be save Chairwoman Sall an summarized the applicant would be,willing tq save tr ees that are.reported,on map with exception of t1 clusteY.of redwood trees; wili.use best efforts to.save treesare willing to will replace with trees oheegrequireual ea lev e letter tree surgeon provide to the sta�f if they ree on its protection during con, with reference to the Pepper t stzuction and afterward. ve the developer a statement to give. -ys. trarrer said she would gi . . to contractor covering care and maintenance of trees. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out statement was to include all trees. The hearing was opened to public comment. There were none. public Hear- Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Rogers, to close ing c1csed Public Hearing. Motion carried, 4-0 h 3 HUMES OF THE OCT 40, 197,4 -R-CCPTRO, .M T1 v,. ,,' t:. ,,r 4, ri, t HC-122 Page 19 Meanber Rogers moved for, approval of,apg►licato» C-51,,3a#pl> in .r: KC-51,344.1 regard to saving the trees as recommended by staff. StaffI8:-P"Jatt - approved tion will be followed by the applicant. Pl;.a showing method of ,presoavwt on of the trees,wil',; be,s�+u#mitted=by,,ythe apg�icaat �d"k,<' provisions will be made for replacement of trees not saved with the _excta.tion of redwood and almond on Lot_ 17 which need not be saved but will be replaced subject to staff approval. Seconded 6� Member Dressler. Motiun carried, 4-0 S. Application RC-51,345.1 of May Investment Company requesting HC-51,345.1 approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading, lighting May Invest- and signing :or a single-family cluster development located ment Company adjacent to, and westerly of Finch Avenue approximately 150 ft. northerly of the intersection of Ca?le de Barcelona and continued Finch Avenue. Since the applicant was not present, Member Koenitzer moved to continue to meeting .of October 24, 1974. Seconded by Meer Rogers. Motion carried, 4-0 9. Application HC-51,346.1 of Carl Franklin requesting approval HC-51,346.1 of landscaping for the removal of three trees in a- sing! Carl Frankli family. ;subdivision located on the north side of Bol'i.nge_ Road bet seen Clifden Avenue and Martinwood Way. Staff report: Assistant Planner Kramer said th:.re are -three major trees on the two parcels that face Gillick Way. If the applicant were'to use any of the floor plans -proposed for the lots, facing Bollinger Road, there would be room for the tree. The applicant states there is no way to build house around trees on the one lot. Mr, Carl Franklin said the two lots facing Gillick are much larger than those facing Bollinger. The houses were designed to utilize the lots. The homes were slid 27 ft.and still catch trees. To use other floor plan would cause loss of good aesthetics for area itself and not utilize larger lots. He said he was willing to put in 20 gallon tree or whatever they liked. He is planting 12 trees on the five lots. In answer to Member Koenitzer, Mr. Franklin explained how houses have been changed in design to accomodate lot sizes. Mr. Franklin said the W.11ow trees are very messy; Member Rogers noted they have a very inv,usive root system also. r MINUTES OF THE OCT6tEi, HC-122 Page 20 t�urbe'c` �aea` txer suggeered �tttting s 2�+°•"fox tree on e�+�f C 11Ack. to ct a ogsei►e ' c' n etnts" "faovat plc T1Yez+s'` • The F k c,- Publ ic Rear- Member Keenikter moved',` sews dedF BY tiet�er tto�ers, to o18se' Pu�'1iF ing closed Hearing: Motion carried, 4-0 HC_Sl 346.1 Member Roenitzer moved to approve Hc-51,346.1, that they be permitted approved w/ to temeva three trees andon lthatlick Wayelo� corded 8q 9hieieber'r will place one 2Dr ier&gee condition on each oaf the lots Motion carried, 4-0 REVIEtj OF CH"GE OF CAPY OF SIGN FACE: '°s Inc.? MOSS °cweido,bf Manson's Inc. lb. Golden Blest 'Sign`-Company ."(Mons-on Avenue- continued to copy of au. exi,sting sign located at 10881 Blaney venue. next meeting applicant was not present and theret were questions regardisdg the Since proposed sign, Member Roenitaer moved, seconded by Member Rogers,, `. .. to continue to next regular meeting., Motion carried; 4-0 NEW BUSINF i A discussion was held relative to tree salving. Ala. Kramer Sei l the is concerned and will be looking at -this',closely in the fMore. A sta-aiard on this will be worked on in the near future. Member Rogers moved a Minute order to the Planning Commission that Minute order the City has the intent to save t the extent of some inconvenience and minor expense to the applicant- Implementation licationspro process catstherPlanning the Commission leverliest l time in the application p To wait urril ftrtther glom'-farhland use�tetc.patcthe time of is to preclude the ability top poor fix in many cases later on. such consideration and to attempt a p art of his The applicant should be informed so as to present apossible and his original proposal his plans for saving trees where p method ne insure staff andat sstaffoapprovalsmustobeination obtainedlia s`uch`effort. maintained with r ., 122 ES OF OG$(fB$E $tl, 1974 �l-00 '� t1`' [ DI 21 Cha.lrwom= Sallau added that this eoamd ttee world be hammy to in the and City Council work with Planning Commission esandforr guidelines for tree development of a tree ordiaaDc identification: and preservatioa�. Seconded by Member Koenitzft. Notion carried* 44 Assistant Planner Kramer asked that suggestions f.►r guideltUMB be turned in as soon as possible. Chairwoman Sallan asked why u-Control i ttt(the _instead of a commission, what the difference is and could tus be changed. member Dressler asked if coffee could be perked for H-Cout"ol meetings. Member Dressler was answered the "shed" on porch as for Honduras he reltsi collection by resolution of Y ADJOUMI:fENT At 12:30 a.m. the meeting was adjourned to the meeting on October 17, 1974 at 4:30 p.m. APPROVED: C. 1Qaa 5a11 ~' Chairwoman AMU: E. yder, City Clerk 0"T",M_ M-111�_"M CITY OF CUPEHTINO, STATE OF CALIFOMUA BC-123 10300 Tore Aitmitb, Capdti ► >.�"} 't Page 1 Telephone: 252-4505 a MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGUL.AR'AR=TgCTURAL ACID,SZT& AppWV,A1. , i COMMITTEE HELD ON OCTOBER 17, 1974 IN THE LIBRARY CONFERENCE ROOM, `CITE HALL, CUPERTINO' CALIFORNIA The meeting was opened at 4:45 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan- j ROLL CALL Members present: Dressler (5.*05)0 Koenitzer, Rogers, -Chairwoman Sallan Members absent: Weinstein Staff present; Associate Planner Cowan, Assistant Planner Kramer Chairwoman Sallan, noted the meeting was a-continuation of~ studies. on Landscaping Guidelines for Saratoga--Sunnyvale Road° ParkVay._ Assistant Planner Kramer distri'.buted revisions to guidelUies-based on the last meeting with the architect, James Coleman. The Associate Planner reported ;there are new developments in Cross- road Area which Hasten the need for finalizing decisions on this area. This document will be maim conceptual piece. He detailed processes being followed for eheve areas, Mr. Cm-an suggested Implementing r4is in conceptual plan Instead,- of using as landscaping guidelines, matting this document part of. zoning ordinance. Chairwoman Sallan said the main intent was that anyone developing` would be given this document first. They could do both;_ could go to Council and get it implemented and then be part of Planned Development. The Assistant Planner Pointed out there are some parcels that may not cooperate and will want to do an t%eir own so there may be areas that will have to deviate sligt►tly but will still have elements and follow guidelines. Chairwoman Sallan felt they should have to assimilate. Member Koenitzer referred to curb cuts. He also noted the key point was the 50 ft. setback and landscaping. x k HC-123' MINUTES OF THE ADJ. H-CONTROL MEETING OF',OCT4HER L74 7197k," Page 2 Chairwoman Sallan said it was an advantage to developer when he has to aperata° in confines, of suid0Aws:°. ; It was noted the committee felt the. City Comcf l,shquld be involMd in implementation of guidelines. The Assistant Planner esiol'this draft had been pieced. together by using old guidelines P.nd suggestions from committee members which had been incorporated. Member Koenitzer noted it should be written in the present tense with the exception of requirements which would be in-present Imperative tense He also suggested there should be a consistent. method of numbering and heading. It was noted there is 130 ft. right of way, the committee felt 140 ft. to allow for bicycle lanes was preferred. Minute Order Member Koenitzer moved for a minute order to City Council that in order to provide bicycle lanes on Saratoga Sunnyvale Road ASAC recommends a 140 ft.. might of way be provided. Seconded by Member Rogers. Motion carried, 4-0 It was agreed, a study should be made to determine the,most effective way of separating bicycle lanes from traffic. Access from the sidewalk was discussed. Chairwoman Sallan said her concern was that developers might use this as a design point to get exposure. She suggested there should be some statement of philosophy that their intent is to integrate properties as much as possible; that they are trying to establish a solid landscaping approach. Assistant Kramer pointed out there can't be an area that can't be seen or gotten to; the area will be used. A discussion was held on the possibility of temporary driveways being included in guidelines. It was decided to include that some curb cuts might be temporary and why. Chairwoman Sallan suggested a philosophical statement that recognized the importance of grading, especially parking lots in relation to view of the cars from the street. It was felt that street furniture should be defined; i.e. benches, trash enclosures, drinking fountains, arbors, electroliers, etc. a a HIMYTES OF THE ADJ. U-CONTROL MEETING OF OCTOBER 17, 1974 KC-123 Page 3 Building height in relation to landscaping set-back was discussed. It was agreed that buileings over 16 ft. high will be required to have greater set backs. Member Koenitaer suggested 5 ft. monolithic sidewalks on streets where parking is allowed. All other elements for auxiliary streets will be the same as Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road with the exception of landscaping and sidewaaks. It was stressed that ex.-!F,ting specimen trees will be maintained and developments will be planned around existing trees. Grading precautions will be observed. It was agreed there should be one more meeting to study changes as made in guidelines and incorporate suggested changes from tonight's meeting. ADJOURNMENT At 6:07 p.m. the meeting was adjourned to 7:00 p.m. on October 24, 1974 for the regular H-Control meeting in the Council Chaubers. APPROVED: 44 C. N3ncySallan1 Cflkrrwoman ATTEST: Wm. E. HWder, City Clerk s, - r , F, CITY of CUkENTINO, S SE`O CA060�YA. : > ;, end f RC-124 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, Callifarnia Wage 1 Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF TIM F.laMAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE REI D ON OCTOBER'24, 1974 IN TR`COW CIL CHAMBERS, CITY !HALL, CUPER'TINO, CALIFORNIA k SALUTE TO THE FLA4 The reeting was called to order at 7:11 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallao with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Members present: Dressler (7:35), 1Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan _ Members absent: Node Staff present: Assistant Planner Toby Kramer INFORMAL REVTO; OF PIAN.NED DEtTELM1ENT USE PERMIT IYPLICP_TIOi : 28-U-74 Anthony Musolino: Construction of six single--family units located adjacent to and westerly of Miller Avenue at the southwest intersection of Miller Avenue and Calabasas Creek approximately 120 feet northerly of Greenwood Court. The Assistant Planner reported this review had been postponed as modifications were being spade to the plans. ifs. Kramer said Mr. Merritt Sher of Coco' ; was present. It had,been understood the entire de!u,?opment would be built at one time; how- ever only Coco's will be Instn1led at this time, and the exhibited proposal. was being offered for H-Control approval. Member Koenitzer expressed concern that developr.,ent should be finished wl thout waiting for 3 to 5 years wnich would defeat purpose of planned development. its. Kramer said there is a plan for the entire development, and they will make sure the City gets amenities as quickly as possible. She explained what would be built at this time, referring to displayed exhibit. The trees will be planted along back of property now without irriga- tion system. The irrigation system will be installed at time .-of construcLioo of Phclsa !I. She referred to letters in packet from Engireering firm acid Mr.. S;ier described what would be done. z. n, e- HC-124 MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H-CQNTROL MFZTING Page 2 x Mr. Merritt Sher, 440 Pacific St., San Francisco, answered Member Weinstein that the reason for only building Coco's was the tight financing Market and it hasna t proven feasible to go ;obead• #th;= stores at t4s time. He noted they will be undergroundlntg utilities and landscaping 175 ft. There might be requesps-for minor,j difita- tions depending on requirements of eventual tenant but basically plan would remain the same. With regard to discussion on unbuilt portion, Member Kcenitser suggested putting a fast growing rye in the area until building is done. Mr. Richard Tanaka, 18 N. San Pedro St., San Jose, said rough grade was being proposed; this meant compaction to 90% so there would not be any growth on it and the liquid asphalt topping;would mitigate Must factor. The liquid asphalt topping would look like regular asphalt topping. In an.4wer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Tanaka said topping vas,oiA and water and w• uld get hard in about a week. In answer to Member Rogers, Mr. Tanaka s id when building went in the area would have to be rotgtilled and loosened before landscaping, but would not be harmed by the liquid asphalt. With reference to a neighbor's concern about pine trees in .back,, 4r. Sher said he would be meeting with one of them. The trees would be planted 12 ft. from. Cl.ay Street property line. In answer to a concern that there would be somebody around to see the trees are hand watered regularly, Mr. Sher said one of Coco's employees would do so and staff could contact the manager of Coco's regarding maintenance of landscaping. Mr. Sher pointer'' out they have stipulated any necessary replacement of trees would' be done. It 'was noted that approval for development had been given. After discussion regarding the placement of ground covering under the pine trees, the committee agreed this would not be necessary. 'odification Member Koenitaer moved to approve modification to the Terranomics :o Terranomics Corporation site to include 8 conditions mentioned in letter from 'orporation Mark Thomas h Co. Inc. of October 23, 1974, File No. 74033 with approved additional sentences on condition 6 to read: "The pine trees will, be hand watered. Any pine tree that dies will be replaced no later than when second part of development is developed." Seconded by Member Rogers. cad _ ta# s `f MIUMS OF THE QCMM 14, 1974 tt-46WM Member Weinstein said his idea of Planned, �4t had just , collapsed and gave his reasons for so feallago' Sher noted this was better than, cupting site down mlddlp.w Assistant Planner pointed nut '•any riwdification wouid 6e is ject to this committee's review. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, ihAavoman Sall NOES: None Hat—lun carried, 4-0-1 Abstain: Dressier UNFINISHED BUSINESS - None APPROVAL OF MINUTES Minutes of September 16, 1974 Page 3, lash paragraph to read "....of entrAnces to mark them as entrances." Moved by Member Koen#;'e , seconded by Member Rogers, to approve Minutes of Minutes of Septembei'16•,' 1974 as amended. 9/16/74 approved as Motion carried, 3-0-2 amended Abstain: Dressler and Weinstein Minutes of September 24, 1974 Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to approve Minutes of Minutes of September 24, 1974 as submitted. 9/24/74 approved Notion carried, 3-0-2 Abstain: Dressler and Weinstein Minutes of October 3, 1974 4 Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to approve Minutes of Minutes of October 3, 1974 as submitted. 10/3/74 approved Potion carried, 4-0-1 Abstain: Weinstein IIC-124 MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H-CONTROL =TINE Page 4 3 r Minutes of 640dr 10, 1:04 z On page 26, paragraph k, Jddt '11he, toe 3aogd floc ess" pioul! it di 'satcess°'. On page 16, paragraph C,, the first line should read, ": ..comm'ittee was not in favor o£. .. ..", On page 17, paragraph 6, item (b) should read, "it should ire resolved at-planning level taking into account the possibility that the intensity and density,of the development may have to be modified because of the trees." On page 2, paragraph 5, the second sentence should. read, "The building was planned to be two stories but has been changed to one story with high roof line." On page 6, condition (3) should read "Applicant substitute six ca�hor trees for pruaus trees throughout the landscaping plan." On page 9, paragraph 6, "the words '.'will also be" should be reFlac�d with "is". y , seconded by Member Rogers, to nutes a It was moved b Member Itoei�itzer, 10/10/74 approve Minutes of`October 10, 19,74,` "as ardendod. approved as amended Motion carried, 4-0-1 Abstain: Weinstein POSTPONEMENTS - None WRITTEN COMHUNICATIUNS - Letter from Mr. Masao Najima regarding the May Investment Company application. ORAL CO2MMUNICATIONS —None Chairwoman Sallan advised there would be no new items initiated after 11:30 p.m. PUBLIC HEARINGS: HC-51,345.1 1. Application HC-51,345.1 of May Investment Company requesting May Investmen approval of site, architecture, landscaping, grading, lighting Company and signing for a single-family cluster development located adjacent to and westerly of Finch Avenue approximately 150 ft. northerly of the intersection of Calle de Barcelona and Finch Avenue. Continued from.H-Control u. eting of October 10, 1974. HINUM OF THE OCrOBER 24, 1974 It--CWTRM KUTING 4 Page 5 Staff report: The Assistant Planner .2ocated site, an �d csnrfbed;the f surrounding area. . She p!oina ed gut,the main iterp of,conze n to :tb.ls'f committee are the location and intensity :of the if;ghts, .Oe-geMoval of existing trees on the property., the ratio of parking,; the�size of garages and the setback of the fences on Finch Avenue. It was noted that parking areas near Units 24 and 18 were adjustad to save three trees. There is a common open area planned to contain a pool as shown on; Exhibit A 1st Revision. The applicant has not determined ;for sure> there would be a pool as the cost would have to be absorbed by owners; this would have to come back to committee to get approval; before building pool. Concern had be- e expressed as to the possibility of high achool students walking from Greenwood Drive throw the open area to the high school along the fire access. A break-away fence across Oe. , fire access area and the parking lot which would have a gate to , alb the residents to walk through had been suggested.; The Assistant Planner pointed out light poles as located on plans. Also the directory type signing,displaying exhibit. In answer to Member tdeinstein, Ms. Kramer pointed out si4e,--:#16. referred to in Mr. Najima's letter. Slides were shown of the site and the Hulberry and Silk trees which could not be saved. Mr. Hartin. L. Hall, 162 Hollenbeck, Sunnyvale, said this was not a typical Makay , development. The homes are all complete individual homes with no attachments. With regard to the swimming pool,,, Mr. Hall said because of the high cost of this item, the project could not be developed as planned if included. He did not believe: it was necessary since the high school ' play area was just across the street. SITE: In answer to Member Koenitzer's question regarding access for the garbage trucks, Mr. Roger Griffen, 10211 Bubb Road, Cupertino, said the trash company vehicles ti;ould enter into project. The roads will. be paved to City standards. He located and described the trash enclosures. s A i "z HC-124 NIMES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 #-COUTROL kBETING Page 6 In answer to Member Rogers, Mr. Griffen said the Fire Department wanted nothing'in theft wdy ai tine 'lodatlod shgges ed '-fbr'bre y'i*fll He noted the City Couheii WAd not been gda nc about having` 'Vd11 in that 1ocat3orn. The school cti ididit nt* d6i'using tfiat,!i ie 'bit "ems time eveti though it is -aei open 'fie1$d. They-do vot ant ioil€a y ' problem. Member Weinstein s-aid he did not agree; he could envision -botorcycies going through there if there was no gate. Mr. Griffen commefted on the differences in pedestrian and motor access. He felt it would be a shame to block off visual aspect for tenants. Member Wei'nsteizr suggested spaced poles. Mr. Hall assured the committee they could be protecting home owners and will put whatever is acceptable to home owners and Fire Department. ARCHITECT: Chairwoman Sallan noted the setback on Finch Avenue is only 20 ft, and the two story is approximately 24 ft. to 'peak' of roof. 3ha asked about flexibility to change one and two story units. Mr. Griffifti pointed out there are no two story units to perimeter of property. GRADING: No comments UUN—DSCAPING: Ms. Cecelia Mogensen, landscape architect, was introduced. Member Koenitzer referred to Mr. Najima's letter. He suggosted changing Liquidambars on Finch Avenue to some broadleaf evergreen since these houses are closer to street than normal. He commented he could not sort his way through the planting to detail plant code. Ms. Margensen said she had tried to give broadleaf and deciduous trees in mixture. Chairwoman Sallan asked Ms. Mogensen to go through landscaping approach on Finch Avenue. Ms. Mogensen said she was willing to change pines to Liquidambar as requested by Mr. Najima. Chainaoman Sallan noted the Liqu'_dambar would be bare in the fall. %s. Mogensen said there was a variety that is without leaves for only two months of the year. Member Koenitzer sa;d along here he would like an evergreen tree o= some kind. Member Weinstein suggested a Magnolia Grandi£lora. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out most of the fence would be seen. She was uncomfortable with this. Ms. Mogensen said this was a very attractive fence and could stand on its ewn. pz YiA4ii' S OF THE OcTOBEP. 24, 1974 H-CONTtt L HUTING $0-124 Page 7 It was ascertained 15 gallon trees would be planted on Finch Avenue. . With regard to substitutes for the Mulberry and Silk t'Y'sea, Us. Mogensen sail: any of the trees on site could be used. LIGHTING: In answer to Member Dressler, Mr. Gri:ffen described the post and wall mounted lamps, referring to exhibits. SIGNING: Mr. Griffen located where directory sign for wain aspect of project would be located. ',"he smaller signs giving addresses to each unit would be locrted at entrances to each mall. He answered Member Rogers that the directory sign would not be installed until after a determination had been made regarding re;. =atio: facilities. Chairwoman Sallan reiterated her concern about landscaping in front of fence. Mr. Masao Najima, 10355 Finch Avenue, Cupertino, said he had operated a nursery business here for twenty years. He wanted to discuss pros and cons of"trees for Finch. He 4escribed character- istics of both Magnolia and Liquidambar trees. The large Magnolia is very messy. The ground is full of Oak root fungus to which• Liquidambar tree is immune. The meeting was opened to comments from the public. There were none. Member Dressler asked if there was a clay to stipulate tree size other than gallon. Mr. Najima said the 5 gallon size were those 3 to 5 years old and 15 gallon were 5 to 8 years old. He preferred the 5 gallon to 15 gallon. The younger trees will take off better and will be better shaped generally. There is a difference in ground size of one year and cost for larger size is 3 times as much. Chainaoman Sallan then recapped application discussion. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Hear Public Hearings. ing closed Motion carried, 5-0 isma IFx � a s xisY xw � tit lb KC-124 MINUTES Op THE OC OBER 24, 1'974 1�-c04+iTtt{D:.'kffg% tG Page 8 Dres r moved to recommend approval of RC Member Dre -51,345.1 sle Cite il, subject to standard H-Control conditions amd the following Spa CgAdit ,oVA: rt t (1) That the applicant change the two Pine trees on Finch Avenue to Liquidambar to match remainder of project:. (2) To remove Jacaranda tree internal to project and let applicant replace with, alteraate tree of his, selectiO;L- (3) That the app li;;ant replace the existing Mulberry tree with representative tree compatible to the project. Seconded :by A1ember Rogers. The pool and recreation area was discussed-. recrati Member Koenitzer moved for an e�adandtrtp�acea withmenhat pool an�grasseandon area as Shawn Oe p'SecondedlAnA be dby Member Dresslex. other plantings. . VOTE ON AMENDMENT: Me�bers Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Weiuste AYE: # and (2aairaonnan Sallan i(OES• None Amendment carried, 5-0 HC-51,345.1 VOTE ON MOTIONS approved w/ Members. Dressler, Koenitzer, Roger, Meinatai.�a conditions AYES: anal Chairwoman Sa11an NOES: Done Motion carried, 5-01 The applicant .as informed of approval and his application would be heard by the City Council at its November 4, 1,974 meeting. At 9:00 p.m. a recess wascalled left , the the meeting reconvening at 9:10 p.m. Member Dressler 2, Golden West Sign Company Monson's Inc.; requesting change C'n,ange Hof Cop of copy of an existing sign located at 11JQt11 B?.aney Avenue. :fonson s Inc. Continued from H-Control meeting of October ?C, 1974. v f 3 yyx • gym= sx MIAWES OF THE OCTCHER L04 a-CONTROL XM$=G Hb-124 Page 9 Staff report: The Assistant Planner noted the applicant had not been present at last. metIng :so application had: ;been ,coqtinqpd. She displayed plan showing proposed signing. The sign-c ss will be the same size, just meptacing Russell's with Monson's. The signs will be white backgvmmd with red letters Slides were shown of site and the two signs being changed. Ms. Kramer answered Member Rogers that pole signs are internally lighted as are other signs in center. Member Weinstein coimnented having white background would make sign appear brighter. 'ibe committee agreed that proposed sign would be- of higher intensity than uhat is there now. Member Koenitzer also liked lettering on Russe7.l.Qs better than proposed block letters. Mr. Lyle Smith of Golden Est Sign Company said there are existing signs in the center with uUte background and red letters. They are not proposing to change size, just copy and reversing colors. Member Weinstein said the problem is the bri.ghtn%ss;. He asked if the red and white could be dimmed by using darker red and off- white background. Chairwoman Sallan suggested they take a continuation on application to redesign sign, taking into account the preference of the committe . Mr. Smith asked if Member Koenitzer wanted script rather than block letters. Member Koenitzer explained it is a big sign and block " letters didn't seem to have any character or aesthetic appeal.. Mr. S-Ith said the reason for using block letters was readability. Mr.. Smith said they would lake to avoid delay of a continuation. He asked for clarificattom on color control. Chairwoman Sallan said the committee has responsibility for aesthetics and color comes in this area. After discussion with claent, Mr. Smith said they would like a vote. The meeting was opened to comments from: the public. Mr. Frank Mulkern, 2800 Homestead Road, Cupertino, said this -was an example of what the Chamber of Commerce is fed up with - the objec- tion to color and type of lettering. He did not believe this is their responsibility or that they have control of color unless it is outlandish. He personally felt his answer would be to have vote and appeal to City Council. The comments made are entirely subjec- tive.. It irritated him and he wanted the minutes to so reflect. Mr. Dennis Monson, 10881 Blaney Avenue, Cupertino, said Ralph's and Safeway are red and white signs; why can't a small independent business have one. F � a�Av4 MINUTES ()IF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H-CONTROL 14tETYNB :iC-124 _, y Page 10 .. on signing Nand "�`: Mr. Monarsna Sr. said Cheq had spetat $11?5 put their nay on their'businesa. oss b'be to c, sidee application 14erober Rogers asked i"f i't would pose of different white and red with reduction of intensity through shades. item'H of ordinance Ilan read No. 3, page `10, r oser� Chairwoman 5'a which deals with area ofjurisdic-tion. ' This is tine sign P � have to make judgment. to committee and they le' Mr. Monson said the customers can't understand tal�y a limp change cart be made. He could outeOnasign for twoeyea rs Ye. He pointed out the bulbs have been In answer to Dennis .Monson, Chairwoman Sallan 'said that red ��e�Conable to ave been criticised and have bet IV on oc white signs h casion obj public taste. Public Hear Member Koeniiber ';ein, to eLose tzer moved, seconded by mou ing closed Public Hearing. Motion carried, 4-0 to find solution as time was Member Rogers said she woisld like licant in this case- money to the app to recommend approval to City Council with ?iember Koemi tzar moved. two conditions: a white (1) That the colors be changed to a rust and op $ background if obtainable, and (2 Something other than block letters be used. s reopened so applicant could -respond to The Public Hearing wa comments. ar, Smith said the applicant would be willing to these coThe nditions color chips of what was av�iusinag and iifered to show ��2380 rust committee agreed and a compromise was reached, and #2146 ivory. member Koenitzer withdrew his motion. Yt` MINUTES OF THE OCrOBER 24, 1974 H-CONTROL M MC-124 x Page 11 Member goenitzer then moved to recommend appi6va i' the' ioapon Change of application with the condition that the color 'a "sigh' be #2146 copy approv ivory background with #2380 rust letters and, that the letters be something besides plain block letters. Seconded by,Member Rogers. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4--0 The applicant was notified :pis application had been approved. 3. Application HC-51,337.1 of Adobe Inn requesting approval of HC-51,337.1 landscaping for a restaurant facility' located on the south Adobe Inn olde of Stevens Creek Boulevard west of Blaney Avenue adjacent to the Customhouse Restaurant. Staff report: The Assictant Pla::ner gave background of application. The areas of particular concern to the committee were the eastern and western boundary of the property and the area along the Stevens Creek Boulevard frontage. Some planting has been installed on site. She referred to property in back that will be developed at laier date She also pointed out parking is at minimal number now. Chairwoman Sallan quest.'_ozed easterly boundary, noting there was no additional landscaping. Mr. Frank Conley, Adobe Inn, said in order to. compensate for cars they wanted to put planters similar to planter around sign. He said they had _zdone the planter on northwest corner and since then customers have knocked off two top tiers with bumpers. They will have the same problem on other corner. He described chang&s being proposed. Chairwoman Sallan said the problem is that from the City's viewpoint, they need landscaping on Stevens Creek Boulevard. Mr. Conley said their type of business needs cars in front to attract other customers, but if he had room to put in landscaping he would. There isn't room in front or eastern side for landscaping. In answer to C?iai neoman Sallan regarding tree wells on easterly side, Mr. Conley said the property behind would be improved and parking area added. He explained what they want to do in the future but can't do now financially. He said professional people had told him any landscapirg in front or on eastern side would have to be replaced in a week. He pointed out the big lot doesn't belong to M E KC-124 MINUTES OF THE OC�6i 24, '�414*fi"- 11C'A hf)L 1��L� � Page 12 then; it belcrsgs� to Ce Qmhquse., The bl,& field on, t4e•other,eide doesn't belong :v teem eit er, _ Member Weinstein s'a34 he empathised with business prnblems, brit Stevens Creek Boulevard demands some type of landscaping. There must be some type of landscaping that would provide Breenety but will ,not screen business. Slides were shown and side discussed. Mr. Conley said they have spent $15,000.00 tying to beautify the City. Member Rogers asked if it would be feasible to eaggest that applicant work with staff on two corner areas. Chairwoman Sallan said they should specify what is wanted. Member Koenitzer said if the patrons are destroying planter aL-feady installed, he was not .sure another planter shoul�_' be installed. It was ascertained the„.Applicank would be willing to cooperate in a venture to coiabine. landscaping with Customhouse. The meeting was opened to public comment. There were none. Public Hear- Metr5er Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, to clo9e Public ing closed hearing. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of Appli<.ation HC-51,337.1 of the Adobe Inn, subject to standard conditions and the landscaping plan submitted with one following condition: (1) That the yellow area in northeast parking area be modified to include a planter that has, plantings following general concept of landscaping of site. HC-51,337.1 B Seconded V, Member Rogers. approved w/ t condition AYES: "lembers Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant was notified his application was approved and would be heard by the City Council at its November 4, 1974 meeting. k . ��'` r� •:� ate- �- � _;w3s t�« - �.:<rat vm of TlnR ocroBRR 24, 1974 U OL XMINO 4 13 Alft 4. Application RC-51,342.2 of Advance Coiffures (Mre.�t eb" MC-51,342.2 requesting approval of a sign plan for a commercial develop Advance tent located at 19610 Stevens Creek Boulevard. Coiffures moved to end The applicant was not present. Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded of agenda by Member Rogers, to Move to end of agenda. Lotion carried, 4-0 5. Application RC-51,006.1 of Louis Romano requesting approval RC-51,006.1 of site, architecture, landscaping and grading for a duplex Louis Romano located on the east side of Stevens Canyon Road between McClellan Road and St. Andrews Road. Staff report: The Assistant Planter noted that most problems in staff report have been discussed and worked out. In regard to archi texture, a mixture of tile and shake roofs has been proposed. Inis area is on way to reservoir and is very rural. The staff feels shake material would be more in keeping with area. , Mr. Louis Romano, 4.895 Kingsridge Road, San Jose, answered Member Rogers comment that people in smaller unit of A don't have much yard by pointing out they have front and side area since it is a corner unit. Member Koenitzer noted :Fence does not go all the way to driveway. He felt this area could be added to the small units' backyard, SITE: Slides were shown of site and general area located. ARCHITECTURE: Member Weinstein commented the right elevations wil' be most visible and are most bland. He suggested turning the plans~ around. Ms. Kramer said the driveways had to be oriented to McClellan Road and St. Andrews Road. Mr. Romano explained how elevation would be buffered with landscaping. Member Koenitzer ascertained the applicant would be willing to use all shake roofs. t i F HC-124 MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 H-CONTROL MEETING Page 14 �.ANDSCAPING: Member Rogere Clarified th t 6le'ande`rs on Stevens Canyon'�bad would be. in addition to plant shown on`plan. ;Mr.- h6Mano said they'46uld be putting a pine on corner to matte uniform. t : Member Koenitzer noted flex rieyet to driveways and sidewalks "h ate stiff leaves and are not satisfactory for location where there will be cars being opened and people walking by. Also the agapantha in front of the units does ncl. get big enough for this purpose. Should be something that grows 4 or 5 ft. high. There should also be one specimen t:�-ee on Plan Blots. The applicant' ' agreed. Chairwoman Sallan expressed her concern that McClellan Itoad' side should have more planting than one tree and ground covering. The applicant agreed to put something every 10 ft. GRADING: Satisfactory. The meeting was opened to public c6dient. There were none. Public Hear- Member Koenitzer moved, seconded .bq'Member Veinstein, to close ing closed Public Hearing. Motion,carried, 4-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC-51,00 .1 to the City Council with the standard conditions, Exhibits A, B, B-1, B--29 B-3, C, and D and the following special conditions: (1) That the the roofs be changed to shake roofs so that all four units will have shake roofs. (2) That soma other plant besides Phormium tenax be used next to sidewalks and driveways; unsatisfactory because of stiff, sharp leaves. (3) That the agapanthus used next to Plan B be changed to some shrub that grows taller. (4) That additional shrubs be put in areas where ground cover alone is shown now; between lots and in some places in front next to the units. Seconded by Member Rogers. MIMME5 OF THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 W-Ca?�7'WL MEETING UC-124 Page 15 AXES: rs Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallas KC-51,006.I NOES: Nme approved wl conditions Motion carried, 4-0 The application has been approved and will be before City Council on November 4, 1974. REVIEW OF CHANGE OF COPY OF SIGN FACE: 6. meth C. DuClair (Red Boar) requesting change of copy of Change of an existing sign located at 10095 Saich Way. Copy ^ed Boar Staff report: The Assistant Planner, located site and displayed proposed sign. Slides vere shown of the building and other signs in center. Mr. Kenneth DuClair, 10095 Saich Way, Cupertino, said the Red Boar was a cocktail bar. The background for sign is white with red letters trimmed in black. Member Weinstein ascertained the sign is 2` x 151. Member Rogers ascertained ttze sign will be illuminated. e Member Koenitzer said part of letters seem to be out of proportion to size of sign. He would like to see smaller letters. The meeting was opened to comments from the public. There were none. Member Rogers moved., seconded by Member Koenitzer, to close Public Public Near Hearing. ings closed Motion carried, 4-0 Member Rogers moved to approve change of copy of sign face for Red Change of Boar as :enneth D«Clair has presented. Seconded by Member Koenitzer. Copy approve Motion carried, 4-0 4. Application HC-51,342.2 - Advance Coiffures The a-pp.licant still was not present. Ms. Kramer noted the sign is in Brentwood Shopping Center. it has been agreed to work out a new sign plan for shopping center including ground sign, and are trying to coordinate existing with new plan. ® n ti 1 ��t iC-124 1.1014 TES OF THE OCTOBER 24, 197,4 !i-Ct1?:IAOT. MEETING u g.� 16 Member K6enitzer saiii he doosn't, have -objections to sigd'iij such;a ` but the center doesn't seem to get improved, just changc"d= C-51 ,342.2 After, further discussion, Vietiber Weinstein moved to continue ontinued to Application RC-51,342.2 to next meeting. Seconded by Member ext meeting Koenitger. Motion carried, 4-0 NEW BUSINESS Chainsoman Sallan reported her trip to California League of Cities was very gratifying and rewarding. She suggested committee be advised of meeting to hear reports of workshops attended. Chairwoman Sallan presented a brochure on Grasscrete she had obtained in Los Angeles. Staff was to contact company and get details and additional brochures. Member Koenitzer asked if Oak shopping Center was to be taking care of Oaks . He noted the ditching machine goes up too' elose to trees. Staff was to check. Member Rogers repeated her concern with wall t.t Vallco: Ms. f Kramer suggested she speak to the Engineering Department regarding this. The Assistant Planner reported on differences be.twen "committees" and "co:mnissions". 19iis was covered in State lack. ASAC is not i covered. Chairwoman Sallan suggested the City Attorney write an opinion on what differences were between committee and c"oamission. In answer to Member Koenitzer, We . Kramer noted condominiumw would be built on Rae Lane which was to be a cul-de-sac. It was noted there may be time on next agenda to include landscaping review of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. ADJ OURNIMNT At 11:20 p.m. the meeting was adjourned to the next regular meeting on November 7, 1974 at 7:00 p-m. -APPROVED: ATTEST: C. auc allan, ha omen Wm. E. Ry i, city Clerk t , M, ►' 1 CITY OF CUPERTOO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA BC-125 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Page 1 dift Telephone: 252-4505 Mums OF THE REGULAR =Two OF THE ARculTEcTURAL AND,SITE APPROVAL COMITTEE HELD ON NOVMER 7, 1974 IN THE COUNCIL GWIBERS, `. CITY"H"L, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG The meeting was opened at :':ll p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Members present: Dressler (7:20), Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan Members absent: None Staff present: Assistant Planner Toby Kramer Assistant :lanner Steve Piasecki IMFOJML REVIEW OF PLANNED DEVELOPMHNT USE PERMIT APPLICATION' 28-U-74 Anthony Musolino: Construction of six single-!Family 28-U-74 units located adjacent to and westerly of Miller Anthony Avenue at the southwest intersection of Miller Avenue Musolino and Calabazas Creek approximately 120 feet northerly of Greenwood Court. Assistant Planner Piasecki located site under discussion. An aerial photo and site plan were exhibited. He noted the biggest concern was cars backing out onto Hiller Avenue. An elevation of. the units was exhibited to the committee members. Mr. Marty Hess of Dick Finnegan said this was a hard lot to work wit because of its shape. The units were to be sold rather than rented. With regard to back-up situation, Miller Avenue is islanded, there is a good sight line down Miller Avenue and controls at either end which would help negate problem. Members Dressler and Weinstein felt since 90% of houses used this same back-up situation, this was not a serious concern. Members Koenitzer and Rogers and Chairwoman Sallan agreed this was a concern. '¢ He-125 MDRJTES of THE NOVEWER 7, 1974 H-tO1 9L,1i=1; Page 2 Member Koenitzer suggested extending island barrier to north of creak to insure no left hand `tug into property. Mr. Piasecki exhibited a plan for five units with citwl.arAkiVbtar. After further discussion, the following points were stressed: Site - Concern of back-up situation - Concrete look to frontage - View of garages from Miller Avenue Privacy of yards Extension of median Architecture - since oriented to Miller Avenue, attention should be paid to making garages attractive. Conceptual landscaping - Maximize what is done to frontage since the garages are oriented to the. s:trebti` UNFINISHED BUSINESS Ms. Kramer said she; would be presenting a modification request from Vallco Park and landscaping plan for Ridgecrest Park Villas under New Business ;. ; APPROVAL OF MIDWES-: Minutes October 17, 1974 On page 2, paragraph 4, Member Koenitzer wished the second line: to. read ".. ....which- would be in present imperative- tense," On page 2, paragraph 9, the first senteace should read ".....of temporary driveways being included in guidelines." Minutes of Moved by Member Koenitzer, seconded by Member Rogers, to approve 10/17/74 Minutes of October 17, 1974 as amended. approved as amended Motion carried, 4-0-1 Abstain: Weinstein . P4INti'f8S OF THE NOWMER 7, 1974 ROL XMING HC-125 Page 3 Minutes of October 24, 1974 On page 10, por4gzab 5, , second � a A line , to read 11....c4ticied And F%avas b$ . an �aca�ascntcticle� to°° s One page 2, paragraph 3, Member Koenitzer said the third line should read, "...growth on it and, the. 1*q d41'-,asphalt topping would.would. mitigate dust factor. The liquid asphalt topping would look like regular asphalt topping." Since these were the minutes referred to in newspaper article, Member Dressler expressed concern that udaautes were bat:,$ quoted be£one being approved, painting out that Councilman Izva l,ved'was, not present at the meeting. Ms., Kramer said that the G1-ty Council had asked to have minutes: of meetings:; attached -to any applitatiams forwarded to them. She said the committee could make a Minute Order-` of their concern or just have it noted, in: the record of this meeting. Minutes of 10/24/74 Member Koenitaer then moved to approve Minutes of October 24, 1974 approved as as amended. Seconded by Member. Rogers. ascended M�toYe �rr3ra� ed, 5�.. POSTPONDZNTS - None 'WRITTEN cwojNICATIONS - None ORAL CO*MICATIONS - Ms. Kramer advised the committee there would be a meeting regarding League of California Cities Convention at the Morse Ranch op ,November 14, 1974 at .8:00 p.m. No item will be initiated after 11:36 p.m. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. Application HC-51,068.1 of Bill Eng (Ho Ho Restaurant) HC-51,068.1 requesting approval of a sign plan for arestaurant facility Ho Ho located on the northwest corner of Bollinger Road and Restaurant Blaney Avenue in the All American Shopping Center. Staff report: Ms. Kramer said the applicant is requesting approval of two wall signs for an existing restaurant in the All American Shopping Center. A change of copy was granted in February, 1973. The applicant failed to obtain a permit and installed a sign differ- ing from the approved one. They arc therefore requesting legaliza- r ti rs. fizMm &fit .,,a .e - ., ,w . .. k: a :, a. .x a_ �,c,. u'�a�.'i'Ff„�d"✓ "JINUTE.S OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1974 it-CONTROL IEBI'Il O f . ... .. 9 . idKi]Lc..a. f tion of 'the t3da tog algal-as 44U, "es-sddking & " ,F 1'joj't*Lg fj�nger Road- si,;n There -ts another sly: ilt the,.reA 'of-t1ie restau "Staff 3 suggested this sign be removed. glides were shown ,of' the 'Wit,4,-r end i:estaukant:. Member Koenitzer suggested reversing colors: i.e. sign Vaitid f!O '''red characters and blue lettering. tf Mr. Gene Maddox, representing restaurant owner, 'said` with regard`*o sign at rear of restaurant, this Was far delivery purposes and'`ld' not shod from the street He pointed out 'Fain Realty had-several signs there. Ms. Kramer-noted these had nmt'beea approved. It was suggested that Pi Hol Restau,!Ant could be placed on door to identify for deliveries. This ;as agreed to by the applicant. Mr. Maddox askf- ? why this couldn't be handled �91o*rer the codastdr" and Chairwoman. Sallan explained this was a policy of procedure to review applications"for signing in the City. The meeting was opened fcd comments from the public. There were r_.:ne, w Fiember Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Dressler, to close Public Hearings. Motion carried, 5-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval 'to" the City Couzeil " of Application HC--51,068.1 with standard conditions and exhibits and with the following special conditions: (1) That the 1-Aters and characters colors be the same as the colo-•s of the characters and letters on the Blaney Street side: i.e. the Chinese characters and English letters are to be the same as on the Blaney Street side. (2) Painted sign on rear of building be painted over. If identification is needed for deliveries, it can be placed on the door. Seconded by Member Rogers. Motion carried, 5-0 le! MD1UTES OF THE NOVSkBER 7, 1974 B-COTML MEETING BC-125 { page 5 The applicant was ,:,otified the approved modification would now'let `' heard by the City Council at its November 18, 1974 meeting. Member Rogers ascertained the staff would now check on Ram Realty signs. 2. Vallco Park Modification to Parking Lot Ms.. Rrmar said Vallco is now in midst of grading site for regional center. They have come in with plans for parking lot adjacent to financial center on east side of Wolfe Road. The Assistant Planner showed plans of shopping center. Vallco is proposing to lower parking lot 10 ft. into ground which %-ill make It hidden from Wolfe Road. There will be the same number of stalls and the same ratio of compact and regular size ears. Landscaping from the curb to parking area has been increased. She displayed proposed configuration. The staffs only concern was the anticipated wideni tg 69 Wolfe Noad. They wanted to assure that any widening of street wdul�d,not call for cutting of slope. They have ascertained there will be enough room on flat portion to take rare of any widening. The meeting was opened for comments from the public. Mr. Walter Ward, General Manager of Vallco Park, said the reason for lowering parking lot was to give it a better outlook from t:te financial center which is glass and will have a view of this park- ing lot. It is also a convenience to the City as the yardage of dirt being moved will not interfere with traffic. In answer to Member Rogers, Mr. Ward said a Second levelof.'parki o er this lot would depend on future development. This configuration would allow for construction of top level in the event public trant.it in the future would allow addition to the financial center. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out this was aesthetic and reasons lent support to earlier discussions on this application. Member Dressler asked about_ the possibility of not raising Penney's and not depressing this lot. Mr. Ward said it was in Penney's agreement and they are past that point in time. } q K a . `.tA HC-123 MINUTES OF N0VEMBER 7, 1974 H-CONTROL NOTING Page F0 Vallco grad- Membe Ke-mitaer moved to approve ,ehe proposed ctlange to grad*aS. ing change of the packing, loft on the east .side of ::ol fe Rpa4 aguth of Valle approved Parkway. Seco vded by Member Rogers. Motion carried, 5-0 Chairwom,m Sallan advised Mr. Ward the application had been approved. Member Rogers ascertained the final landscaping plans would: be presented in about 8 weeks. 3. D.idgecrest Park Villas Slope Landscaping Plan Ridgecrest Assistant Planner Kramer noted this application,had been approved t . Park Villas in 1973 with the coolition that the lower slope-landscape plan; Landscaping co-ordinate with the proposes Horse Ranch Park. The concern was that the areas on the slopa should be, compatible with what happgped in the Horse Ranch. The project is completed and, the lardscapL% w , is now ready to be installed. She referred to letters from Armis K. Hori:ta of Horlta Landscaping, and memo from Director .of larks, ao,- . Recreation dated November 6, 1974. t In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Horita, 4109 Forestwooct Driye;,F San Jose, describe.: r .e landscaping being proposed. The meeting was opened to public comment. There were none. ublic Hear- Member Y-cenitxer moved, seconded by Member.RoSers, to Moser ing closed the Public bearing. Motion carried., 5. andscaping Member Koenitaer moved to approve proposed landscapiag for hillside approved portion of Ridgecrest Park Villas. Seconded by Member Rogers. Motion carried, 5-0 The applicant was advised of the approval of his request. 4. Discussion of Landscaping Guidelines for Saratoga- Sunnyvale Road Parkway. The Assistant Planner referred to Urban Design Guidelines for S.iratoga-Sunnyvale Road Parkway dated November 1, 1974, 81,054.1. It had been decided to send to City Council as soon as possible as there are developers waiting to hf.ar on guidelines. Modifica- tions could be made on conceptual plans at a later date. Ms. Kramer proposed the committee study Mr. Celeman'a exhit '.ts one more time and if satisfactory, the guidelines could be approvall tonight. I_aWrES OF THE NOVEMBER 7, 1974 H-00'NrROL MEETMG R£--125 Page 7 Ms.,. Kramer said wi.:h regard to medians!, entrances to, City.,..sg�t ,g and other possible desired amenities, there would be. Separate area -tutions attached. She asks%! the committee too :ook at the median plans; these will be given to devalopers as something the City will be working with. f Member Koenitzer felt the signing should be addressed some place iu paragraph 2 if the.4e are urban design elements. The committee would have to think of what they would like to see its terms of landscaping and r:.e planning for signs would have to be integrated with landscaping plans. Another point would be that signs would only be allowed at curb cuts and only one sign per curb cut. `ember Weinstein said he did not think it worth while holding these guidelines od for signJmg. He didn't think any progress had been maxi by the ad hoc s<i.gn committee. A good sign ordinance would take care of any lot in the city. Chairwoman Sallan suggested a statement could be made tq the effect that signing should be compatible with landscaping approach along the frontage. Ms. Kramer suggested changing_.this back to landscaping, guidelines as there are elements left out. The committee could work within guidelines of general sign program and take each- planned development application as it comes in. Member Laenitzer said he felt there should be•some general statement before starting to treat individual applications. Member Dressler agreed with Member Weinstein that signing should not be integrated int:z guidelines; Member R^gers agreed with Mealier. Koenitzer. After further discussion, a recess was taken at. 8:50 p.m. with the meeting reconvening at 9:.07 p.m. Member Koenitzer noted he would submit his marked up copy of guidelines to staff. He suggested meandering sidewalks be used where parking was not permitted on auxiliary streets. Ms. Kramer expressed her concern about changing type- of sidewalk. Member Koenitzer said meandering sidewalks with landscaping on both sides would look better than straight sidewalks in areas where parking is not Permitted. Member Rogers said she would su:+mit her copy of guidelines with markings to staff also. 7 ri 191 KC-125 MINUTES OF THE NOVEMSEi; 7, 1974 H-CONTHOL WETING Page S Cheittwdman 5411a a wished it tee be clarified the mounting,t4a 4"ikor- intended-aa,math sides of the sid6ralk Guidelines After further' discussion, Member Koenitzer moored to accept' Landscapins accepted as Guidelines of November 1, -1974 as modified. Seconded by Member Rogers. modified AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chaixorbmam Salian NOES: done Motion carried, 5-0� Chainiroman Sallan 'noted the guidelines had beea: approved and complimented No. Kramer on her efforts in this behalf. Member Wei,•:astein asked if Thursday would continue to be the regt,l.ar day for this committee to meet. After discussion, it was agreed this was agreeable to a11'the committee members. Meetings to Member Rogers moved that change o'f tieeting to Thursdays be be on 1st and permanent. Seconded by Member Weinstein_: ` 3rd Thurs. Motion carried, 5-6 Chairwoman Sallan noted a general announcemat should be made. Planting not Chairwoman Sill-PA mentioned Portal Plaza still has dirt piled "on done at Porta Stevens Creek Boulevard and Portal Avenue side. She said there Plaza should be a pro.-,edure for when planting would be done. Ms. Kramer staid there is a l,jond for this development end explained difficalt'Ces invol-ad. Staff will chFck with the developer to see when pladtingg is scheduled. A brief discussion was held.. newspaper With refe•.ence to the newspaper article in the San Jose Mercury Article regarding signs, Member, Koenitzer said he was more concerned about Councilman Meyers' reir+arks than about the newspaper article.. Member Weinstein said there are areas that are totally arbitrary and subjective. This emphasized the need for a new sign ordinance. Chairwoman Sa_tlan said she was discouraged about the apparent lack of support for the committee and what they are trying to do. She felt time committee had done some good things but felt they were undermined by a._-isles such as this. If Councilman Meyers is comfortable ` � r aim UO-125 SS Op TSS I;oVEIGER 7, 1974 H-CMfOn 1S0 Page 9 with article there is a problem; if he its not comfortable with the article then something should be done to clarify his position+ to avoid this is the future. if there is m problem the committee should be advised fiirst- AWOUMOMST At 9:47 p.m. the me-.ting was adjourned to November 21, 1974 at 7:00 p.m. APPROM: Ce � S8 , i]t`61CMM ATTEST: A4 0�2 �e_44 - Lroe r, City C , , §, {"771- •; 811 CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA � 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino 1 Telephone: 252-4505 r ` MINUTES OF THE REGUWR MEETING'OF THE AR HET, 9 TU .iANkt 1, UAL CCMITTEE HELD ON DECEMBER 19, .1974 IN THE COUNCIL OWSERS, CITY HALL, CUPERTINO. CALIFORNIA SALUTE TO THE FL&G ry � The meeting was called to order c,t 7:05 p.m. by Chairwoman Sallan with .the Salute,to t e Flag ROLL CALL Members present; ; Dressler, "Koei ltzer Roi�o'+c�;.s to 9sftei&�t" Chairwomaa Sallan Members absent: bone Staff Is resent: Assistant Planner Toby I£r¢�er..:. � INFORMAL REVIEW OF PLA1ttNED DEVELOPMENT USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS: None UNFINISHED LUSINES:S a Chairwoman Sal-kanrepotee Portel R �;p1a.:%tj.&ba4lbeeA Member Kc enitzer noted the Church of rhe Nezarene on McC1el!aup4p4j had cut down most of the trees in front of the building. Landscaping had not been requirqd because•of orcbard:;betra t n,street agd bu 1�#Aag-1 and now there are about 4 trees left. . Assistant Pla�et��rat?�'r,saidc there. was no ordinance covering removal.of,treed, Cbai;Vopqn.rSa suggested discussion of this be agendiaed for.;ne ,.apeet#n8::,and-�8bat, , some type o_. presentation ccu d be made to City Council to give Interim protection to trees until an ordinance,cld..ba. wr.tten , Member Rogers reported the parking lot at the Custoffibouse has weeds growing in it and looks very poor. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of December 5, 1974 Member Rogers noted on page 8, paragraph 3, jiveA,i the word c;upany' ; Minutes of should be "County". - 12/5/74 approved as It was moved by,$ember KoeniL.eg, seconded by Memb�r klensteln, to ;, ,, amended approve the Minutes of December 5, 1974 as amended. Motion carried, 5--0 at 128, . MIDMES OF THE DECEMSER ].9, 1974 H--CONTRDL KW. 4tG 3 y Page .°_k POSTPONEMENTS: None W -Ca MOM-Al IONS: None ORU, COMMUNICATIONS The Assistant p'anner reported the questions for the Citizens Survey should be submitted by January 9, 1975. Chairwoman Sallan noted no item would be initiated after 11:30`'p.ffie NEW BUSINESS 1. "Grasserete" presentation by Michael Wyant of Home Savings' and Loan Association. Msq Kramer.intioduced Mr. Wyant after explaining that members of the city-Is Council, Commission and Committee had"seer this approach ®t { thq Los Angeles office of Home Savings and Loan and had been most favorably impressed. Mr. Wyant gave a brief description of what they had done with the Grasscrete in Los Angeles and displayed exhibits. Films were shown and the procedure described. his process can be used for patkilig, lots, freeway embank*ents, drainage canals, patios in malls and :ail lsi.de; developments where-mud. `ides are.a poe"bil:ity, Tt' is- ' more costly but a =.w process is beir_? developed which will reduce the coat. In answer to Member Koenitzer., Mr. riyant said°people could trip on it bat i thy: manufacturdr- reported that in four years there had been- -6- pirobldws in"this regard. As to oil and grease drippings, the affected section would be taken out and a new section plugged in. Mr. Wyant answered Chairwoman Sallan that cost was 25% to 50% more than traditional parking lot, but the new reusable form method a world redui^e .:he cost. To offset this additional cost, Mr. Wyant said many cities were discussing considering this part of the landscaping which would allow the developer to use more land for parkirg and to put in less landscaping. Maintenance cost would also be a factor. Mr. Wyant answered•Mebber Dressler the theory for using Bermude grass : was that roots are below ground and only the blades of grass would be touched by the cars. He explained how the grass is dyed green in the winter; this dye turns to fertilizer and the grass returns to green in spring. i 1 " �r < - s ni MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 19, 1974' H-CONT80L MEETING HC-I28 .`? : Paw x. Chairwoman Sallan asked to have data as it bechmde avaiiable'on -oost' and problems of this system. She fli ed Mr. Vk6it `for'hip pr`esenta Lion, noting she would litae``thia pxeset�tstio�a ®`be de�'�'efor tee'x ether bodie•a of the City. PUBLIC HEARINGS 17 2. Application TIC-51,058.7 of Home Federal Savings and Loan ' ' HC-51,058.7 Association of San Diego requesting approval of landscaping Home Federal and signing fora temporary bank tiiei.ldiing''located at the•` Savings and northwest corner of the intersection of Scofield Vrive. T Loan Assoc. Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. Continued from I$•-Cotintsol Mina ' '1, of November 21, 1974. Staff report: Assista-.. Planner Kramer noted the application had been -eoiitinuedf t*. give the applicant an opp6r-trinity to revise the, landeeagit' "<p1a" to submit an alternative�ptoposal- for the ground sign. Sher eAhT6it9d and described the new proposals. The TrafficJEngineer tad agreed" allow the sign to encroach in the corner triangle provided the sign' was mounted *on a pole rather than a solid base.- The appli` datt,4s requesting the sign in this area because of the,"visual ob4truct1nn caused by the hardware store. Mr.Brett Bayne, representing Home Federal Savings aand .Loan Associati explained changes that had been made to 'the` land-4t-4i;iig proposals., Ae pointed out that the landscaping is`'•fa&ir a three yea - period or unit'it the permanent construction is done. Chairwoman Sallan questioned the two plum trees on Scofleld. Drk4e side of property. She thought these sho"ald be evergreen Imo. Bitg `-- agreed to this change. She ascertained there was'ground' eover"ilt. the planters. There will not be any landscaping along wall 'where the ', single family residences abut; it was determined there.would not be any activity in this area. Mr. Bing said the small tree in the parking lot might be removed-if it became too large and obscured sight of the nuilding. After dis- cussion, Chairwoman Sallan suggested an on-site inspection of'situa tion after building was up to determine: if this would be aceeptab•Ye It was noted the tree would have to be removed at time of permanent:• -- construction. RC-12$ : ' MINVUS OF THE DECEMBER 19, 1974 D-CONTROL t+ UnNG Page 4 k 4is,eussioa d®veloped ,roerd ug ,pggm=egt,,gcq truce oa , k er. ttstein eai.d;.lt "is=his .undezgta€jd¢gg. 6 °:was a;:$i1� cs ttuentA,&� eta cCz� per?anea, tilding yeare;i; ;14a. Bin&,said it waa,,hi$ juuderstand- ing they would Ibe either puttiag in a permanent .building or�avac8&ftg the premises within three years, depending on how business wen . Ms. Kramer explained the presentation upon which approval of the temporary building was given. She read Condition No. 10 of approval which states that a permanent building would be erected within three years or the Citylleauld remove the temporary building at the applicant's expense. Mr. Bing assured them they expected to,peit up aspermanent building. With regard to signing, Mr. Bing laid they usually worked with pole sips; they had thought the committee. should .prefer the other sign. He painted out the., drawing,was out of.,.scale_as- he had not had time to get a new drawing made. He had just,written in. dimensions. The sign was to be 6'6" x 419". The committee felt it was too large for the pole. ber;-Koenitzex: suggested add ag two €eet :to poise height to,-give:lt, P Ap?+_ propor-,tions , A,disccusq:im of pr¢por,E erns the ued. Bath, ( ,ai woman.;Sallan and;Memhe r; Koe�af.t ze r stressed the Vportanice `o€ pxopoxt i nn,to sign-'aer the eics. In answer to Chaizwoman .Sallan,. Ms. Kramer,esplained;reasons. £tom allQ"i ng •sign in:,camex., :triangle. She suggested the sign eouW: -:° moved back and the solid block base could. be,kept,• indicating on the site plan where the sign could be placed. < tuber Koenitzer noted•>sr bads, for;.except QA would be that exist-Ins A bruilding, is non-gon.forming to-property lines. and protrudes furthar,,q than would be permitted. ., Cha xwoman-Sallan pointed out` the committee had to decide if (a) they would be comfortable,hairing sign placed, as proposed,, (b) if - : :they-would be comfortable .substit�at ;ng Bole, for solid base, and (c) comfortable with proposal as, presented. Member Weinstein said he; would abstain since he had voted against idea in the first place. He was comfortable with location of sign and the pole; he could not understand discussion of raising height of pole. The hearing was then opened to public comment. There were none. PubAc Heais= Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Weinstein, to close ir4g closed the Public Hearing. ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL OOWITTEE MINUTES 12 of 12 01/03/1973 - 12/19/1974 ' '';eF s, '`"�` -'�... #, tl.- '.,Y�r �.�r x�'� Y� p..v..x *;. t+�,✓_ ^ , .,r` s,,, ; •"�vf`� .4' '�, ir�' .,. Hutm-S OF THE DE Wage � r Motion 3 to 'r6cdett� vaY Iwmber Koenitzer miove ittf s a ed s �" y ing for NG--51,.05E 'go'"City C a mac('`tie ally ,n s r g F, end R�ev►la3on; t (1) That tae two ply' trees io Scofield Drive be replaced '+with f some broadleaf evergreen trees. 3 F. !2) That after the building is in place if the applican",""A" to come back and diezuss poasibilitp of removing tree now existing, in the front parking area, the committee will be 'amenable' to discussing idol. 4 (3) That the sign consist of the` proposed- 61*6il i 4'9".sign and be placed on top of a 743" pole: v j (4) That the sign be permitted within the proposed comer triangle on a" temporary bas s s''that are'e�xcept'iov br6 granted, on the basis that the existing building encroaches into the,_ right` oia�► and creates a ha sb$p 11"terms of sign if it were located outside the corner Seconded by Member Rogers.- In answer to Member Dressler, Member Koenitzer explained reasons for having the pole at 7'3". Member Dressler cooed t o amend the- motibar 'to' di"''ect e �ii'caa to Amendment redesign sign based on City etsginee-r'a- input nor Putin �gcr`oin rnrrow `go3e and the committee's cones rir`fti�'P�O�i�'Hof'aig� and bring back for'spproval;'thereby- d6itifti&1dg °sign application. Seconded by Member Rogers. VOTE ON AMENDMENT .3 AYES: Members Dressler., Rogers, Chairvomaa 5aliait Noss: None �c; ABSTAIN: Members Koenitzer and Weinstein Amendment carried, Chairwoman Sallan pointed out the motion would be on landscaping portion of application only now. BC-51,058.7 landscaping VOTE ON MOTION approved w/ e Chairwoman Sallan conditions AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, NOES: None Sign portion ABSTAIN: Member Weinstein continued ® Motion carried, 4-0-1 �w 7m, C-12& S OF THE 1;4"g� Page b r `s _Chaixutomaa Sa 2 p @ she �ar�c " In portixa�n,.e t `�; tuary 6o i gg ,xoa�ed {{ $e befa�r� td City .CounCAX{ern .i a �xfi ,��`rr'r L}7;the Re + z regularly sc ed`u�ed meeting. §e explained to "tile applicnt the committee!$ .coas4X,parupor140na.pf. s4,gn. A recess was called at 8:45 p.m. with the meeting reconvening at 9.00 p,m. HC-51,318.211 3. Application Hl -51,318.21I 'off Pisharmaula Village (Alfredo Fisherman's Scardina) r. -1uesting exce+_'tioa to Section 7.021 of the Village I Sign=Ordin3ua:e ,to .allow .an advertising area in excess ,of the allotted squard footage for an existing restaurant located on the south side c Stevens Creek Boulevard approximately 200 feet eara asflaaey Avenue. i Continued from H-Control .mneting.of December 5,± 1974. a Staff report: Ms. Xramer referred- to._;4tpr closed p the packet. The letter-was. from tine applicant.and tp 1Ja,rembe; 11� 29:74. The 4, . applicant is proposing to keep the existing sign and remove the two smaller cans from the pole. Dimension of sign.is. 8..16.!1,4 5 on ;a. 20' pole. Slides of existing sign were shoran. Mr. Brian ,Duckwgrth,,.,.,aork�ing-.for Mr, Rai e;z Dempster,wha was,rapxpa at- ing F shgr} t'p Village, said i Rwas- them-pe: ition 'that the .tenet. not part of the sign but-,is.. part£ of the;.landacapi ,. They. feel the.P..l tag Copnisaiou, axed City Counui, are. dying to, iget them to. remove, non-cpiorm- ing sign. The Assistant Planner explained the sign now has 148 sq. ft. and t4eyr are allowed 136 sq. ft. According to existing ordirn- r,.^,e, the City can require modification if modifications are presented. 1.%e removal-4 the two small can will make it a conforming sign, however, the bos.�, adds shout 220 sq. ft. Mr. Duckworth answered Member Weinstein that boat is not on a trailer. It is on the ground and there is landscaping around it. Mr. Duckworth gave background of situation. He referred to plaque on boat giving its historical significance. He noted tries- had requested comments on tt;e boat and within a 60 day period, not a single adverse comment had been received. s Chairwoman. Sallan uirected him to Section 10.2 of Sign Ordinance. She asked how this Section related to his letter and what findings were pertinent relative to ordinance in allowing an exception. s E MINMS OF THE DEC fR 1�,x l ?fit `F�- { °.' , . , ;` 0 PrA 11� g HC-129 Mir. 'Duckworth asked for an extadsion of 't d�i'time JA- %i-to`n'd6mit writ findings on this ordinance. ' Zt"had not b�dd c'letalei tj)�hibi'Viat this was Whatt was wanted. He said'Mr. ADemp�vter toad bra " ed=to a meet- { {. ing in' Campbell which was why he was• in''attendance aid he was not prepared to speak at this time. limber "Koenitzer"suggested moving this hearing to end of the meeting. Mr. Duckworth agreed to try, although it would not be his ]test effort and he would prefer to have a contint sLion. CfrairOoman Sallan ascertained this is a new-application' althdugti'it had been heard eeveral times before. The applidetion'i.s to retftov4` the two sign cans and keep satire sign on the pole; and the'boat. It was noted City Council had decided the boat 'was'part of the 'sgning. Chairwoman Sallan pointed out there must be findings for an- exeeptiot, Ms. Kramer said the letter from:Mr. De ,ter covers,i.these find1ii&. She read portions of his letter of December 11, 1974. Mr. Duckworth again, asked for an extension so Mr. Duster could respond irf`th'e manner they desired. := After further discussion, Member Weinstein moved to continueito the.', Motion for next regular meeting with the provision that the attorney answer continuance with a letter specifically addressing each sub paragraph'of Seetforr 10.2 of "the Sign Ordinance. Seeonded:by Member Koenitzer 'F•-, Chairwoman Sallan read comments of Councilman Meyers from the Minutes of October 29, 1974 Council meeting and asked Mr. Duckworth to take these into consideration in making: a further presentatioi" Mr. Duckworth noted it was not a recommendation of the entire Council; merely the suggestion of r-ae councilman. Member Dressler reiterated his opposition to the continuance-; `giving; his reasons. Member Koenitzer said he felt every opportunity`siiould" be given for the applicant to be heard. Member Rogers' also=felt everything should be done to help the applicant make his pre"ftt'atibA. AYES: Mew1.F•rs Koenitzer, Rogers, Weinstein, Chairwoman Sallan HC-51,318.21 NOES: Member Dressler continued to next meeting Motion carried, 4-1 The applicant was notified of the continuation to the next regularly scheduled meeting. e •kE DC-12864•r ,.,iu ? WNUS OF THE ri�7 DB .... .1'9,s JL-C , Page g a ' ��5.--waS . �i�eia��-� t NC-51,355. l t ,4. _ 8 ,H :5 �SS4 94.... .._ ,. .ftepe r and Paul q aaeda, Donald Wiener ..; t14'ss p PP 4Y -€ $ �plan and the modi ficat:L �g and Paul aiGCP, ,, rc tec user r�. ►dscaping f®r a Lire shop On ;sA Castaneda t +a 3att4g:sesv3r,=.GtAtLpw,.s3.W lncsted at the southe"t• ] rptsec of. Stevensneah boulevard- and Pasadena Avenue, Stasf repays. a Assist�t,P1, a}er noted the property is located; in Old :fonts Visra. The Planning Commission had agreed to tire., sales in an abandoned service station site for a period of two years, during,whic# t#e,,the, prec*gp plan line for Stevens Creek Boulevard could be coa�plete,d. Condi.tigp:-17 of Planning Commission Revol t an;; No. 1367 directed, thiscommittee to limit.: amount of improvem� , required because usa,is .tempp.7ary. $sae referred to the ppssg�a�,3,ity,y, of Stevens Creek Boulevard being widened and the question of whether the use would be compatible with plans for. the,new Monta. Viette., Transparencies ef= site plan . ;:e, ea*tibi,ted and,proposal descs34ed., MS. Framer pointed out the sip. V ropospd ism approximately .40, eq. ft. and they are allow- - 31 sq. ft. by ordinance so ,the siggn.widl. have to be reduced. .ne sign will be a wall sign, red letiers on mite backg.mund. _ MS. Xr;a fir- answered Chairwoman Saban tbat if Stevens,Creek_; Boulevard went•,;q-six lanes, the building would be practaicox;yr , wiped out. It was ascertained,,if the tire..slaop;Were to; become permanent, ;they would have to return,to this committee fore approval of; site:*mp ¢yer meats. Mr. Paul Castaneda said they would be putting out one or two racks to show they,,,re=in,the tine busiaess. Member Rogers ascertained,,, the racks;wousld. agt remain outside overnight. Mr. Castaneda said they would,be:..oar_ eels so they could be rolled in and out of,.the: building, Member Koen:i:�, er voted in light of Planning Commission's recommendation plus the fact it is a temporary use; he found the landscaping plan to be acceptable. He did note the planters and the. Sequoia trees should be watered adequately,and the weeds on the vacant lot should be kept cut. Chairwoman Sallan questioned use of Junipers in the planters. Mr. Castaneda agreed to make a substitution. Y -•Y2B. n ' OF THE DECMBER 19, 2976 M r L G , . �_. ,� �'- �` ►ge 9 `. 4 : Mem r gVen t r said be.-fO -the tip play' . s �m �i� :� .� Me �rould b` ciyerne zgt an9ltl the sign program-' that ctntl p esn ttie�. and the text, if any, with the size and pscice of t$sas• , ,,Ile racks would have a small sign on,,,�t: g$ibulfl �� i��i�� mbar Roen fixer sug$esteck the id-ovk g ' t., 5 or 4 'hire feet. It, wets ftiermited the reeds would b Pt withinJW ft. of the building: Mr. Castaneda agreed to reduce size o=`nice to;cbnfotd to ord'in d' The hearing was opened to public comments. There were none. Public Hear- Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Member Rogers, Co cloa2 Public in& closed Hearings. Motiine`bariied, 5-0 Member KoeaiCaer tttoved to recommend approves of RE-Sk,355.1=to the City Council with standard comdieonsa 'Exhibts A 'anA Band the following special conditions (1} That the junipers is the planting box'be 'changed other evergreen-plant that will grow to F 3 or :k feed hid ratter rapidly. , ` plants in the planters ` That the applicant assure that the P iatered Ce (2' ia trdes .are- properi-y and the proposed maintPi:n full growth and i►ealth'of plantings x (3) That not more than two tire racks be permitted outside building and that these be kept close to the hu'. : ld ng (4) Advertisement on these tire racks be limit"ed to 4 square BC-51,355.1 feet total on each rack. " approved w/ proposed sign the building be reduced` P"OOM$ conditions (5) That the pro p ately in height and length until it conforms to ordinans - requirements for total square feet. Se.onded by Member Rogers. Motion carried, 50 applicant was notified of the. approval and that this mould be The 6 1975 meeting. heard by the City Council at its January > �:.: �'-,+ F. rr�'d �,pr. is Ta �,.� r.= �E _Via; • - (" , � i Pt i.br. :�> &l•='�;_k'`6A .. Y_p Zi '.<aa..k f... . r6. av' ., - RC-128t �;rY MINUTES OY THE DLvIMER 19, 1974 H-CONTROL METING Page 10 it KC-31,002.9 c ti, kiC-5X;002.•9:Of :Rri�eal :L. Dui rer�eeest g, apprr�val Ronald L. : .. Q .,bite; arc4itectur2 : d dacapi a�ad grading lbzr ar t�iplek Dumas 1pc4ed in the Le Creata S:ubdievlsion, Alpine;Driwegi 1m 52 Member.Weinsteia said he. rvui$<: like. `,o make a: statement before the staff, report was.,given. He noted,that at acme point he. would ask to be excused from the discussion of this application as. he was. personally interested. .ember Weiustein s«bmitted the• committee shaald consider uat hearing this.,application because,of the foliowing five reasons: (1) Planning t}epa::tment has had request for two years to deal with this specific problem: of Alpine Drive and.Vista'Ktnoll Boulevard. Nothing had been done until recently. He could nog; assume that landscaping is the only action that--.can betaken to insure -visual privacy. (2) Guidelines by Member Koenitzer and enclosed in the packet *assume,this. is only:solution, and..does not .consider the: possibility of architectural;treatsaentj placement of• structure, grading, window and b,lcony; treatment, etc. (3) After the Appleby application, staff was directed that` any future applications of this -type.swould be preceeded by letters to Vista Knoll residents. - This,has0no -been Ankh done in this case. (4) After the Lubrecky application, Mr. Irwin then Mayor, said there would ^be-no,more application of this type,until the guidelines had been worked out. (5) ;He read from •H-Control Kinutes..of November 21, 1974 which indicated the committee's concerns relative to this type of application. ! Chairwoman Sallan asked staff to comment and asked status of work being done by them. Ms. Kramer said,Chey're were .talking about privacy intrusion for one particular area, but it could also be applied to many other situations. Staff was not sure how to approach it at this point. She pointed out there was a great deal of pressure about other matters which had intervened. She _referred to 'member Koenitzer's solution which would mitigate some harm done by two story building behind a single story dwelling. The application does come under existing law. Member Rogers ascertained Mayor Irwin's remarks had not been a Council action. ' f y `ate ^i fjT ( HINUTES OIL THE DI CEMBL•:R 19, 1274 H-COINTROL MEETING IBC-1 t Page 11 Member Koenitzer said that his material being referred'to as ' guidelines had merely been a s'u stion as a starti�n po$rit`"for g y gge g' discussion. & 3 Member Weinstein said if he were to make a recommendation, which he wasn't, it would be that it go to City Council vith'the notation" that this committee has these concerns and the problem should be handled :iy Planning Committee with guidelines., City Council should- decide what to do with this application. He said he would like to see the lots developed because of fire, vandalism, etc. If Planning Commission had zoned Alpine correctly, there would not be this problem. Member Weinstein clarified that he felt the committee should present. to the City Council the problems found in this application iend they should: decide if application should be heard and if so, what goide lines should be used. Member Rogers indicated she: would like to hear the developer's presentation. Mr. Ronald Dumas said he was the applicant, developer and owner. In response to Member Weinstein's remarks, Mr.. Dumas said the appli - ' cation was registered and he felt the law would say his application,.: should be heard under the present conditions. He referred to the previous applications which he said set a precedent. He said he had talked with staff and had tried to help with privacy problem. He- had removed a balcony and had set the building back 10 ft. .more<than the 25 ft. required. He also felt the landscaping plan was a reason- able solution. Mr. Dumas felt it would be 'unfair- to penalize- him-because the City had no guidelines. Chairwoman Sallan wondered if they had the perogative not to hear the application. Ms. Kramer said it could be continued and the applicant could be asked to make a compromise. Member Koenitzer felt the applicant had a valid approach and could insist that a decision be given, if he wished. Member Rogers asked about letter from staff to concerned residents. Ms. Kramer said if application was continued, it would allow staff time to send the letters out. The purpose of the letter was discusse . The Assistant Planner pointed out this application very closely followed the guidelines suggested by Member Koenitzer. She noted. the additional setback and that Member Weinstein's lot and the applicant's lot are practically level with each other. HC-128 MINUTES ON THE DECEMBER 19, 1974 H-CONTROL MEETING Page 12 r, Chairwoman Sallan said the work of Member Koenitzer was much appreciated .by the committee and the City.' .If the application is. continued :a, Minute Order could.be sent to the City.City,,., .If that:D=Ctrc►1 to In d dlffltat]t position with this application and would appreciate any direction's ;that ( could be given to the committee and the staff. : Member Rogers, pointed out that landscaping, as_ a solution is not all that a permanent; the plants, could die;out. Chairwoman Saban agreed landscap- ing is an enhancement factor rather than_soiution to problem, and there is a need to� speak to other kinds :of solutions. Mr. Dumas noted that :during the intermission, Member Weinstein had, vindicated to him it would be approved; it was only a matter of- bare,.; Member Weinstein explained his remark. Mr. Dumas asked if a delay , would serve anyone's purpose. Chairwoman Sallannoted. any input early on is very helpful. This issue of notifying residents can , generate important input and .can help the committee to arrive at a better decision. t _ Chairwoman Sallan said the, committee.:had a choice of hearing the- application or continuing it until the residents in the area had : been notified. Hember Koenitzer ascertained, that a month's delay would not cause undue hardship. oa Mr. Dumas. The majority of the; commi ttee felt it should be continued. . Chairwoman Sallan noted a.Minute Order should be sent-to City Council, hop3.ngfor an answer by.the January 9 meeting through the staff,. giving direction to, the committee; what kinds of:#arameter_ they would like,to-have taken into account and what kinds of solutions"should be looked at. Member Dressler asked Mr. Dumas about putting the two story in front and the single story in the gear., Mr. Dumas said the garages in front acted as a.buffer for street noises and this design also gave the- building a Spanish flavor. Member Dressler suggested the two story units could be placed over the garage area. Mr. Norm Bridge, architect, said he did 7ct feel it was this committee's responsibility to design the architecture; it was to evaluate it. He pointed out design is not entirely based on privacy. The developer has a right to his privacy also. Chairwoman Sallan asked the architect to consider the things he had heard and come up with some alternatives. aC-51,002.9 Member Koenitzer moved to continue Application HC-51,002.9 to .the next continued to regular reeting %nd request staff to notify residents in area of this next meeting application, both the Vista Knoll tract and Alpine Drive area, that this is proposed and will be heard at the January 9, 1975 meeting- Seconded by Member Rogers. MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 19, 1974 11-CONTROL MEETING � HC-128 Page 13 The Assistant Planner said the letters would he mailed out a week in advance of the meeting. AYES: Members Dressler, Koenitzer, Rogers, Chairwoman Sallan NOES: None ABSTAIN: :Member Weinstein � Motion carried, 4-0-1 The applicant was notified of the continuation to the next regularly scheduled meeting on January 9, 1975. Member Koenitzer moved for a ;Minute Order to City Council requesting � Minute Orde guidelines for use on visual intrusion cases, considering it has been two years since the subject first came up and two applications since it first cane up and still no guidelines from theca and the committee would like something. Seconded by Member Rogers. i . Motion carried, 5-0 Chairwoman Sallan asked the :Minute Order be gotten to City Council in time for the requested action by January 9 H-Control meeting. Chairwoman Sal-la" reiterated she would like to agendize discussion of Grasscrete presentation. It was agreed to have this done at the next relatively short meeting. j } Written comments on pa; for the committee by Chairwoman Sallan and Member Dressler were distributed. Chairwoman Sallan suggested agendizing discussion of removal of trees on property prior to filing application for development. It was agreed staff would agendize this at first appropriate time. s Chairwoman Sallan reminded the committee that questions for the Citizens Survey should be submitted by January 9, 1975. i ADJOURNMENT the meeting was adjourned at 11:45 p.m. to the next regular meeting on January 9, 1975 at 7:00 p.m. } ATTEST: APPROVED: A ` a City -Cie r Chairw n f f