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RC 1984 RECYCLING COMMITTEE MINUTES 1984 RECYCLING COMMITTEE MIN�JTES 9t; 4 To: Cupertino Recycling Committee Subject: Minutes of 10/23/84 Meeting Attendees: Tom Weber Absent; Shirley Harlow Ken Newman Bert Viskcovich Allen Snyder By Allen Snyder REPORTS: KEN Spoke to S. Binnendyk, planner for City of San Jose. No zoning laws pro or con concerning site of collection center. Can use public land, but residents will not want the site in their neighborhood. Planning commission is having a meeting Nov 12 for selection of sites for blue boxes for paper. Will ask Pat Miller to talk at Nov 6 meeting. ALLEN - see if can find out from Safeway how they return recyclables to Richmondv what they collect for them, cost of pickup, do they break even? Would it benefit them if the city pick up corrugated at no charge to them? Contact Shirley re: findings from industry. Suggested that bins be set up in Corporation yard an a trial basis to serve the area north of De Anza. Suggested that compost be used to fill Permanente excavations, with the ultimate plan to create gardens at the site similar to Butchart Gardens in Victoria. These world famous gardens were developed by filling in an old limestone quarry. GENERAL Everyone to come up with suggestions as to what decisions need to be made to get program started. Tentatively plan to have George Savage of Cal Recovery as a speaker in December. ',., RECYCLING DECISION CHECKLIST Programs for: Industry Commercial Offices Apartments Single Family Homes Materials Collected: Corrugated llewsp aper Mi.:ed paper Aluminum cans G1 ass Metal Oil Recycling Collection Los Altos Garbage Community Organization, such as in Portland Sales Via Sunnyvale Direct ® Contract or open market Duration of contracts - i , 2 or i years Fixed Price Floating Price Floor/Floating Price Collection Method Separate Vehicle Rack Trailer Conparmentalized Truck Compactor Truck Frequency of Collection weekly Biweekly Once A Month Vary with type of pick-up - commercial , residential , etc. Ordinances Voluntary Mandatory Anti-scavenger Enforcement If enforced, who is responsible far enforcement) ' Costs Trucks Maintenances and labor Flat Fee or percentage of material revenues Charges to residents and businesses To Cupertino Recycling Committee Subject: Mintues of 11/6/84 Attendees: Tom Weber Absent: Shirley Harlow Ken Newman Bert Visk.covich Allen Snyder Guests: Rat Miller, Sunnyvale Gary Liss, San Jose Pat described her experiences in setting up the Fresno recycling operations and in taking over the Sunnyvale recycling operation after grants had been received to develop a residential recycling program. She described the different types of vehicles used gave us some of her recommendations. Among the points she made were the following: 1. If she were starting a recycling program again, she would look into the commercial /industrial aspects as opposed to the residential , because the former generates such a large percentage of the waste. But she is not aware of any city that is handling recycling in that way. 2. She cannot tell from the regular accounting reports that she receives whether the program is making money by reducing the amount of waste going to the landfill . 3. The recycling vehicles they use have trailers. She prefers the type used in Fresno which had bins that could be rolled off the trailer bed. This feature gave versatility to their operation. She feels it is more efficient to have only one person per vehicle, rather than two as with regular garbage ti-u,7ks. The operators are not allowed to back up. 4. She does not have contracts with the recycling companies that she sells to. Her feeling is that companies can get out of a contract if demand and prices go down. With dependable companies, prices will be ,raised when markets becomes stronger. 5. The major glass recovery operation in the area closed down. The nearest one is in Oakland. 6. They find it more convenient to pick up mixed paper and do not feel that the price is that much less than obtained for newspaper. She showed slides made at both Fresno and Sunnyvale recycling operations and provided us with samples of the promotional material that they have used. Although they have used an illustration of a child, she plans to change that to get away from the inference that recycling is a program for young people only. Also some of the literature was printed on coated stock: and there had been a comment that they should have used recycled paper. Gary Liss discussed San Jose's recycling plans. They will not have answers to their request for proposals for several months. Allen described the Oaks Shopping Center waste handling M71-9 M-,-77-1 s operation. It would seem to be ideal for a recycling program since the handyman/gardener collects waste from each store in plastic bags each morning and also picks up cartons which are kept separate from the other waste. Bert offered to check with kaiser Permanente about their using "raw" compost for fill now since since they will legally be required to cover the excavations when they are through. Allen checked with the Pa manager of AMI (Gould) and found out that they were already recycling corrugated and zerox paper as an official program, and there was a volunta-y program for aluminum cans. Payless (homestead/Saratoga Sunnyvale) bales corrugated. Tom is to obain a copy of the commercial/industrial list from Los Altos Garbage so that we can evaluate the type of program we could develop to increase recycling by large users. Shirley is planning to contact the Chamber of Commerce to see what lists they can supply. F, ��-,';''4' To: Cupertino Recycling Committee Subject: Minutes of 10/23/84 Meeting Attendees: Tom Weber Absent: Shirley HarlorA Ken Newman Bert Viskcovich Allen Snyder By Allen Snyder REPORTS: KEN Spoke to S. Binnendyk, planner for City of Cupertino. No zoning laws pro or con concerning site of collection center. Can use public land, but residents will not want the site in their neighborhood. Planning commission is having a meeting Nov 12 for selection of sites for blue boxes for paper. Will ask Pat Miller to talk at Nov 6 meeting. ALLEN - see if can find out from Safeway how they return recyclables to Richmond, what they collect for them, cost of Pickup, do they break even? Would it benefit them if the city pick up corrugated at no charge to them? Contact Shirley re: findings from industry. Suggested that bins be set up in Corporation yard on a trial basis to serve the area north of De Anza. Suggested that compost be used to fill Permanente excavations, with the ultimate plan to create gardens at the site similar to Butchart Gardens in Victoria. These world famous gardens were developed by filling in an old limestone quarry. GENERAL Everyone to come up with suggestions as to what decisions need to be made to get program started. Tentatively plan to have George Savage of Cal Recovery as a speaker in December. ro Cupertino recycling Committee Subject: Mintuns of 11/6/84 Attendees: Tom Weber Absent: Shirley Harlow Ken Newman Bert Vi sk:cuvi ch Allen Snyder Guests: Pat. Miller, Sunnyvale Gary Liss, San Jose Pat described her experiences in setting up the Fresno recycling operations and in taking over the Sunnyvale recycling operation after grants had been received to develop a residential recycling program. She described the different types of vehicles used gave us some of her recommendations. Among the points she made were the following: 1. If she were starting a recycling program again, she would look into the commercial /industrial aspects as opposed to the residential , because the former generates such a large percentage of the waste. But she is not aware of any city that is handling recycling in that way. 2. She cannot tell from the regular accounting reports that she receives whether the program is making money by reducing the amount of waste going to the landfill . 3. The recycling vehicles they use have trailers. She prefers the type used in Fresno which had bins that could be rolled off the trailer bed. This feature gave versatility to their operation. She feels it is more efficient to have only one pet-son per vehicle, rather than two as with regular garbage trucks. The operators are not allowed to back up. 4. She does not have contracts with the recycling companies that she sells to. Her feeling is that companies can get out of a contract if demand and prices go down. With dependable companies, prices will be raised when markets becomes stronger. 5. The major glass recovery operation in the area closed down. The nearest one is in Oakland. She showed slides made at both Fresno and Sunnyvale recycling operations and provided us with sanples of the promotional material that they have used. Although they have used an illustration of a child, she plans to change that to get away from the inference that recycling is a program for young people only. Also some of the literature was printed on coated stock, and there had been a comment that they should have used recycled paper. Gary Liss discussed San Jose's recycling plans. They will have answers to their request for proposals shortly. Allen described the Oaks Shopping Center waste handling ® operation. It would seem to be ideal for a recycling program since the handyman/gardener collects waste from each store in plastic bags each morning and also picks up cartons which are kept Fz,> separate from the other waste. Bert offered to check with Kaiser Permanente about their usi"q "raw" compost for fill now since since they will legally be required to cover the excavations when they are through. Allen checked with the PR manager of AMI (Gould) and found out that they were already recycling corrugated and aerox paper as an official program, and there was a voluntary program for aluminum cans. Payless (Homestead/Saratoga Sunnyvale) bales corrugated. Tom is to obain a copy of the commercial/industrial list from Los Altos Garbage so that we can evaluate the type of program we could develop to increase recycling by large users. Shirley is planning to contact the Chamber of Commerce to see what lists they can supply. ,o i NO Fill Vo: Cupertino Recycling Committee Subject: Minuies of 11-20-84 Meeting Attendees: Tom Weber Absent: Shirley Harlow Ken Newman Evert Vi skcovi ch Allen Snyder REPORTS Ken Had minor revisions to the previous two minutes. Pound out that the Waste Management Hoard requires a Class II Refuse Permit for composting. Ken to call mushroom growers to find out how they sertilize the compost that they sell . Compost must be free of weeks. Bert Talked to Per-manente about using yard waste for composting. There are strict requirements when making compost - temperature, turning over the waste, etc. to make sure that it is decomposed. Permanente presently purchases compost to cover areas that have been excavated. Both Bert and Ken to check on processes used to make compost and the market for it. Tom Had requested from Los Altos Garbage Co a list of Cupertino businesses using their services and the amount of waste collected from each. This information will help us develop a recycling program aimed at commercial and industrial users. At present, our primary statistics are from the the 1984 Report and include other cities. Rough calculations indicate that yard waste generated by Cupertino residents would produce about 150 to 200 tons of compost per month. This figure is based upon Cupertino generating a total waste stream of about 38,000 tons per year. Assuming that 30% is residental waste (about 11 ,500 tons) and that 20% of that is yard waste, the yard waste amounts to about 2300 tons per year or 200 tons per month. Allen To prepare a rough draft of a recycling proposal to recommend 1) the use of economic incentives to enccourage middle size businesses to adapt recycling measures and 2) a program to recycle yard waste generated by residents. The latter is important if we are to avoid that problem that Los Altos faces. Even though their residents are recycling newspapers, bottles anal cans, he total amount of waste they are producing seems to be going up. This increase may be due to residents using yc.rd waste to fill space left in the cans. It may also be desirable to offer single can rates for all residents to encourage them to reduce a the number of cans that they put out. Willl call George Savage of Cal Recovery Systems to find out if he can talk: to us at the next meeting.