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City of Cupertino
Audit Committee Regular Meeting
Minutes
April 24, 2023
CALL TO ORDER
At 4:00 p.m., Vice Chair Mohan called the regular meeting to order in the City of Cupertino
Conference Room A, 10300 Torre Avenue, and via teleconference.
ROLL CALL
Committee Members Present: Vice Chair Sheila Mohan, Committee member J.R. Fruen,
Committee member Sophie Song
City Staff Present: Kristina Alfaro, Thomas Leung, Janet Liang, Susan Michael, Matt Morley,
Jonathan Orozco, Elizabeth Viajar
Absent: Chair Angela Chen, Committee member Laura Hammer
Guests: Jordan Wahl (Moss Adams), Adam Rondeau (Moss Adams), Colleen Rozillis (Moss
Adams), Stephen Bachetti (Moss Adams), Rick Rosenthal (U.S. Bank), Jennifer Meza (U.S. Bank),
Carlos Oblites (Chandler)
ORDERS OF THE DAY
1. APPROVE MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING ON MARCH 27, 2023
Committee member Fruen motioned to approve the minutes with edits, and Committee member
Song seconded. Peggy Griffin made comments. The motion carried unanimously with Chair
Chen and Committee member Hammer absent.
POSTPONEMENTS
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Peggy Griffin and Rhoda Fry made comments.
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
2. Consider receiving the OPEB & Pension Section 115 Trust Performance Report for the
Quarter Ending March 31, 2023
Meza and Rosenthal provided an overview of the report. Vice Chair Mohan asked how US bank
handles situations in which the commodities market not holding up. Rosenthal noted they do not
hold commodities exposure directly and that because the commodities market turned negative,
it benefits the City. Vice Chair Mohan inquired about U.S. Banks’ strategies as the emerging
markets are lagging behind. Rosenthal noted the fund was sold and placed into an index fund so
that it could track the benchmark closer.
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Committee member Song asked if the investment balance is balanced and nontaxable, what does
nontaxable mean. Rosenthal noted that it is part of their internal coding, and it determines
whether or not they buy taxable securities in the bond space or municipal securities. Committee
member Song inquired about the portfolio’s $1.6M in real estate assets. Rosenthal noted they are
real estate investments in an index fund. Vice Chair Mohan asked what is the cause for the
increase in OPEB and Pension. Rosenthal noted that there are many reasons and concerns about
a recession, focusing on the federal government and people having optimism that the Fed is
coming to an end of their rate increase cycle.
3. Consider the Library Construction Audit Final Report
Bacchetti, Wahl, and Rondeau provided an overview of the report. Committee member Song
asked how the contract was selected, whether it was reviewed, and whether it was part of the
scope. Rozillis noted that it is not part of the scope for construction audits which they covered
under the Procurement Operational Review last fiscal year. Rozillis noted that types of projects
are bid according to best practice. Bacchetti noted that the construction contract audit is
specifically related to reviewing the contract terms and the associated controls. Committee
member Song asked when the project was done, what was the cost per square foot compared to
others. Bacchetti noted that it was not part of this audit’s scope but that it should be calculated to
establish the contract value and if it is within square footage. Committee member Song asked if
engineers were hired to review the cost or if the financial auditors were because there are different
types of auditors. Alfaro noted that this was the scope approved by the Audit Committee and
City Council, and another audit could be brought up for the next internal audit program to be
included. Rozillis noted that this proves the City’s processes are working and adds value as it
notes that what the City is doing is correct. Bachetti noted that they have a team of qualified and
experienced construction auditors and that small findings are an indication of good controls.
Rhoda Fry and Peggy Griffin made comments.
Vice Chair Mohan asked if there is an engineering audit or any other audits at the end of any
construction projects. Staff noted that there is no other audit but that there are final procedures
and that major construction of the library is complete. Vice Chair Mohan asked if the language
amendments is something the City can do for future projects. Morley noted that they have
reviewed with the City attorney and will continue to look to improve the contract language , but
some of the recommendations may not be used as there are items not allowed under state law.
Vice Chair Mohan asked why the contractor would have no further documents. Morley noted
that the compliance document was not something that the contractor could go back and create.
Committee member Song asked if they could elaborate on contract compliance. Rondeau noted
that there was only one deviation, and waivers come in 2 types, conditional and non-conditional.
Out of the 45 documents, there was one documentation missing, and the conditional waiver acts
as a promise that when the waiver is received, the account will be settled. Once payment is
received, they will issue a non-conditional waiver.
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Committee member Fruen motioned to receive the report and forward to City Council,
Committee member Song seconded. The motion carried unanimously with Chair Chen and
Committee member Hammer absent.
4. Consider the Internal Audit Status Report and Fraud, Waste, and Abuse Program Update
Rozillis provided an overview of the report. Committee member Song asked what the allegation
is. Rozillis noted that as it is being investigated, they cannot reveal information due to
confidentially. Vice Chair Mohan asked at which point the information is disclosed. Rozillis noted
that they will follow up with the City Attorney to determine. Committee member Song asked
who has the knowledge. Rozillis noted Moss Adams and the City Attorney.
Rhoda Fry and Peggy Griffin made comments.
Committee member Song noted that the City Attorney reports to the Committee, and so why is
the information kept confidential. Rozillis noted that it is best practice , and City Attorney will
hold information confidential until they can release it. Alfaro noted that it is an ongoing
investigation, and once the investigation concludes, they will note if it could be released.
5. Consider the Treasurer's Investment Report for the Quarter Ending March 31, 2023
Leung provided an overview of the report. Oblites provided an overview of the report. Vice Chair
Mohan asked if the March investment report takes into account the new requirements for
liquidity. Oblites confirmed that it does not. Committee member Song asked what it takes to get
approval to change the strategy. Oblites noted that it is generally driven by staff and based on
budgetary and financial needs to get a good asset-liability match. For most cities it is left to staff
to determine and needs to comply with government code and investment policy, which is
governed by City Council.
Rhoda Fry and Peggy Griffin made comments.
Vice Chair Mohan motioned to receive the report and recommend filing with City Council;
Committee member Fruen seconded. The motion carried unanimously with Chair Chen and
Committee member Hammer absent.
6. Consider the City's Investment Policy
Leung provided an overview. Oblites provided an overview. Committee member Fruen asked
given the date of the letter, does it incorporate the needs for increased liquidity. Oblites noted
that the change to the policy does not affect the liquidity rate or the change in strategy. Both
strategies continue to meet requirements and policy of the code. Vice Chair Mohan asked what is
the benchmark index for the total rate of return. Oblites noted that it is an index of treasuries and
agencies between 1-5 years with a duration of 2.5 years.
Committee member Fruen motioned to receive the report and recommend filing with City
Council; Vice Chair Mohan seconded. The motion carried unanimously with Chair Chen and
Committee member Hammer absent.
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7. Consider the Audit Committee 2023 Schedule and Work Plan
Leung presented the committee's work plan.
STAFF AND COMMITTEE REPORTS
COMMITTEE MEMBER ATTENDANCE AT UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS
FUTURE AGENDA SETTING
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 6:03 p.m.
Recording Secretary:
Janet Liang, Administrative Assistant