PC 10-27-80
CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, Ca. 95014
Telephone: (408) 252-4505
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MINUTES, OCTOBER 27, 1980 REGULAR PLANNING COM}IISSION MEETING
CALL TO ORDER/SALUTE TO THE FLAG
7 : 30 P. M.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Commissioner Adams
Commissioner Claudy
Commissioner Johnson
Chairman Koenitzer
Commissioner Blaine
Absent:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The Commission was of the op1n10n that the Minutes of the Regular Meeting
of August 11, 1980 were unsatisfactory, as they had not been revised as
requested.
MOTION: Com. Adams, that the Minutes of August 11, 1980 be
completely reviewed by Staff.
SECOND: Com, Johnson
VOTE: PASSED 3-1 abst.
(Com. Claudy abstaining, since he was absent at the August 11 Meeting).
(Com. Blaine absent)
POSTPONE~ŒNTS/NEW AGENDA ITEMS
Assistant Planning Director Cowan wanted to have ITEM #2 commence at
approximately 9:30 p.m., when some architects had volunteered to come
to consult on it with district personnel.
CHR. KOENITZER suggested that the Hearing on I-GPA-80 be cut off at
9:20 p,m. and the Meeting reconvened in the Conference Room at 9:30 p.m.
to hear ITEM #2.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
CHR. KOENITZER announced that the Commission had received two letters, fro
T.L. Fitch and Paula Tice, regarding the Highway 85 extension, to go into
the record on that Hearing.
ORAL COM}ruNlCATIONS
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PUBLIC HEARINGS:
ITEM #1, Application I-GPA-80 of CITY OF CUPERTINO: PUBLIC HEARING to
consider various amendments to the City of Cupertino General Plan includin ,
but not limited to (1) Land use changes for a number of individual proper-
ties located throughout the community; (2) An evaluation of alternative
land use types and development intensities for property located along
Homestead Road, De Anza Boulevard, and Stevens Creek Boulevard; (3) A
refinement of the City Circu~ion Plan including a plan to provide long-
term financing of major transportation improvements. First Hearing
continued.
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CHR, KOENITZER explained that the specific portion of this Hearing to be
heard tonight had been going on for some time and would probably continue
for several months. He described it as being in the area of traffic
problems on De Anza Boulevard and the De Anza/Stevens Creek intersection,
and announced that there would be a report from Public Works Director
Viskovitch to follow.
Assistant Planning Director Cowan had received calls from people confused
by the process , and as it waS a particularly comprehensíve General Plan
Amendment, involving land use, circulation and other factors relating to
parks and housing also, he had listed on a sheet dated today some consensus
votes the Commission had taken last spring, when they had gone through
the land use element, for the benefit of the Commission and the audience.
COM. CLAUDY questioned the accuracy of item 2 on the sheet, the Forge
property, in that to his recollection their explicit decision was that
the mini-storage be developed at the same time, not just jointly planned.
Assistant Planning Director Cowan acknowledged this, and stated that
he had not researched the motion. He had tried to highlight the Commission's
consensus at the last Meeting in terms of traffic circulation in the 85
corridor, he said, and inquired if they had any changes to make.
COM. ADAMS had asked the other Commissioners, who had concurred, for a change
in the second sentence under No.1, which was now to read: I1A 1.8 mile
extension to Saratoga/Sunnyvale Road is acceptable as a partial completion
point." He ex¡Üained that though the whole freeway should be completed, it
could hardly be completed all at one time.
Public Works Director Viskovich pointed out that the arr,lOgement had been
similar when the freeway was brought as far as Stevens Creek Boulevard; he
had understood from the last Meeting that the Commission did not want to
take that chance.
CHR. KOENITZER specif~ed they would want the whole schedule laid out with
completion dates.
COM. ADAMS suggested, to say what they wanted, the second and third sentences
read: IIExtension to Saratoga/Sunnyvale Road is acceptable as an interim
partial completion point. The Staff is to develop a timing mechanism geared
to implementation of an alternative corridor improvement should the full
extension become infeasible. II
CRR. KOENITZER,had understood that the basic idea was to extend the freeway
to 101, and the section to De Anza Boulevard would be part of this,
COM. CLAUDY thought Staff was considering the triggering mechanism, and not
the schedule for building, in the last sentence of the paragraph.
COM. JOHNSON thought the last sentence satisfactory, with the provision that
Com. Claudy's second and fourth paragraphs were inserted prior.
Assistant Planning Director Cowan confirmed with the Commission that they
wanved some type of timing mechanism to trigger alternatives.
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COM. AD~ wanted inserted into the second paragraph on the alternativ~
plan tne sentence: "The alternative plan for an alternate corridor improve-
ment study is a four-lane parb.¡ay with residual land used as open space. II
This was the way the Commission had suggested, and he did not want any
misunderstanding.
COM. CLAUDY, referring to the last paragraph where Staff was to develop a
mechanism to ensure the new growth in the westerly area of town was
controlled commensurate with scheduled improvements within the 85 corridor,
stated that the Commission had discussed the matter, but had held off on it
He suggested substituting "within scheduled traffic improvements" for
"cormnensurate with scheduled improveménts within the 85 corridor" to
permit the growth to take place.
Assistant Planning Director Cowan understood that the improvements referred
to could be on De Anza Boulevard in that case.
Public Works Director Viskovitch reported that Staff felt there.were four
basic decisions to be made in the circulation segment of the General Plan
Amendment, firstly involving the 85 corridor, secondly, De Anza Boulevard
and the intersection of De Anza and Stevens Creek, thirdly the trip
constraints, in terms of the 16 and one-way performance standard and Town
Center, and fourthly, Vallco Park
Focusing first on De Anza Boulevard and the advantages and disadvantages
and appearance of the underpass, he said that it had been acknowledged
since 1973 that something had to happen at the intersection of De Anza
Boulevard and Stevens Creek Boulevard in order to relieve future congestion
Two loop systems had been discussed in the past, but had been dismissed
mainly because of neighborhood concerns. He saw the one possibility of
implementing a surface improvement only as being the limiting of developmen
potential within the I1CrossroadslT area, and pointed out that between
Stelling Road and Tantau Avenue there were approximately 125 acres that
could be developed or redeveloped, the development intensity being mainly de endent
upon improvements on De Anza Boulevard.
The feeling of Staff, after listening to brokers, was that .it might not be
possible to build to the magnitude planned in Town Center and that the
land uses proposed might not work, leaning towards more housing emphasis,
but that the Town Center concept might remain alive by shifting the commerc al
emphasis to the traditional I1Crossroads" area of the City where there was
the potential for additional development, so that a IIdown-town" feeling
could be created there, he said.He referred to the appearance of the
projected underpass, and to the diagram issued showlng a IIbirds-eye viewn
and explained the concept was to transport the commu~ing traveller through
the De Anza/Stevens Creek intersection directly.
COM. CLAUDY established that the improvement would fit into the existing
street width and would be six lanes, two in each direction and two left tur s.
Assistant Planning Director Cowan compared an at-grade improvement, which,
with ten lanes, would require an additional right-of-way.
CHR. KOENITZER observed that the time permitted for through traffic could
be cut from the traffic light cycle.
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COM. CLAUDY wondered which areas would lose access, as they were in the..
depressed area.
Public Works Director Viskovitch advised that on the north, Pacific Valley
Bank would be the first access point, and on the south, McWhorters at
Scofield Drive. It was anticipated to tie-in McWhorters to the Crossroads
center, however.
COM. ADAMS wanted to know why the through lanes had not been put together
in the center.
Public Works Director Viskovitch explained it would mean two intersections,
leading to conflict and less efficiency. He pointed out that as there
would be two culverts, construction would be simplified, as through traffic
could be shifted to one side and then the other, and observed ,that the level
of service when the project was finished would be almost a liB" He described
the side lanes as being wide enough so that they could be made into three
lanes each way instead of two, should the need arise.
CHR. KOENITZER was concerned with the two-lane concept, as at present there
were three in each direction and he felt a bottleneck would be created, as
in other areas on the roadway where it narrowed down.
Public Works Director Viskovich assured him that the capability of going to
three lanes if necessary would be thoroughly researched, but added that
the two lane configuration was based on the volume each could carry through.
CHR. KOENITZER saw no question that eliminating the stop light would speed
up the traffic going through.
Public Works Director Viskovitch sensed a concern that there would be
congestion at the other intersections, but saw the De Anza!Stevens Creek
intersection as the only major intersection that had to be dealt with,
as the others,apart from Mariani, became very secondary with properly timed
signals.
CHR. KOENITZER inquired whether Bollinger would be improved.
Public Works Director Viskovitch answered that a double left turn improvement
was out to bid, and was a cooperative project.
COM. JOHNSON, referring to De Anza Boulevard, wondered how many streets
would be impacted and how deep the depression would be.
Public Works Director Viskovitch advised that from Alves to Scofield Drives
would be ùepressed,with the depression being a gradual one, at the
deepest, 16 1/2 ft, below grade.
COM. CLADDY asked how long the construction would take.
Public Works Director felt probably six to eight months, as there were utilities
to deal with.
COM, CLADDY noted that the Cupertino Scene had mentioned that the signal
at De Anza Boulevard and Stevens Creek Boulevard êauld not be interconnected
because it was a "State road". He .wanted confirmation of this point.
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Public Works Director Viskovitch confirmed that it was a State-owned
controller and that tne State had to issue an encroachment permit for the
interconnection. He noted that action would be delayed until the State
could agree upon a standard controller interface that would suit the type
170 controller.
45 MINUTES OF MEETING TAPE MISSING AT THIS POINT.
CHR. KOENITZER compared the peak hour traffic on De Anza & Stevens Creek in the
model for 1990 with the traffic today, the figures for southbound De Anza
traffic being 2800 today versus 3700 in 1990, and on Stevens Creek, in e'lch
direction,llcO versus 14/1500, and noted that an underpass would at least
help with one-third of the traffic that was going through in this very
seriously impacted sitaution, and would be less of a barrier than a ten-lan
at-grade intersection which would otherwise have to be considered.
COM. JOHNSON wondered if the 1990 figures assumed the development of the
Town Center approach.
Public Works Director Viskovitch advised that the 1990 figures assumed full
build-out of all Cupertino.
CHR. KOENITZER, referring to Mr. Viskovitch's comments regarding a focal
point and center of town with examples of Saratoga, Los Gatos and Los
Altos, observed that none of these had their main shopping street on a main
traffic thoroughfare, and questioned whether the Crossroads area of
Cupertino would be suécessful as a town center, as it was on a major street
which would make it too disjointed.
He wondered whether the Commission's consensus could be that the study of
the De Anza Boulevard improvements should be continued. He observed
that he personally did not want to make any decisions until there was
some understanding of how the interconnect would work, and what the
development plans would be in order to have a balance between traffic and
development; the latter not having been discussed as yet,
He suggested that the Commission should start out the next Meeting
studying the General Plan Amendment with regard to the trip-end and
Vallco Park constraints,
Assistant Planning Director Cowan suggested it might be simple to address
these by concurring that they both related to constraints on development.
and that if the traffic problems could be resolved, then perhaps the
constraints could be lifted. Referring to Vallco Park, he advised that
their present plan was workable in 1990, assuming some improvements were
made within Vallco Park itself.
COM. CLAUDY established Vallco, was nvt affected by the 85 corridor or
the De Anza grade separation in Staff's estimation.
CHR. KOENITZER agreed with Staff, that anything in the 85 corridor would
not have much influence on Vallco, apart from a full freeway; it was too
far away
COM. ADAMS' feeling on the 16 one-way trip constraint "as that if it had
worked so well so far, it might noe be advisable to lift it yet.
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Public ~-Jorks Director Viskovitch thought that minimizing the intensity oJ
development in the area had helped, but that the desired goal had not been
accomplished, due to changes in the way traffic operated, because of f~ctors
such as industry's use of flextime.
COM. ADAMS observed that the use of flextime was due to the conditions put
on developments by the Commission because ot the constraints, and was not
convinced they should be let go at this time.
Public Works Director Viskovitch stated that the constraints were an
administrative headache.
CHR. KOENITZER wanted a fuller discussion on both ending the trip constraints
and the Valleo issue.
Assistant Planning Director Cowan wanted to know, if the traffic problems were
resolved, whe.ther the Commission would be willing to let the constraints go,
or if there was another reason why they should be kept.
CHR. KOENITZER wanted some discussion of how much was left to be devèloped
in the constraint area, and the intensity, if the constraints were lifted,
and in regard to Vallco Park, the intensity levels for their build-out and
a review of their current plan.
Public Works Director Viskovitch wanted the Commission's permission to take
the position that,because of traffic, other ways had been found of managing
Vallco Park, and that Vallco be allowed to bring in their plan to be analyzed
on a traffic basis, reporting back to the Planning Conunission for a decision
on whether or not they could proceed. He asked if the' Commission would be wiJling
to do this,' or if they were not prepared to lift the constraints.
CHR. KOENITZER wanted a chance to look at all the facets, at least briefly,
before making a decision, examining some material so that they could make
a recommendation to the City Council about constraints in the core area,
the north De Anza Boulevard area and Vallco Park.
COM. CLAUDY felt he would be more willing to give consideration to removing
constraints if he could be convinced that there were mitigating measures to
be taken for the traffic.
COM. ADAMS felt that if the administration of the constraints was over-burdensome
the matter should be considered immediately, but otherwise the Commission
needed more facts.
COM. JOHNSON suggested that it be dealt with at the next Meeting, as it appeared
it would only take a short time.
Public Works Director Viskovitch suggested that the Commission's consensus
vote might be to go ahead with a more detailed analysis, so that Staff could
proceed with an overall study of the plan and come back for a final decision
at a future date.
CHR. KOENITZER agreed that the consensus was the Commission would consider,
after hearing the facts, lifting or modifying both the 16 trip-end constraint
and the constraints on Vallco Park.
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Public Works Director Viskovitch confirmed with the. Commission thRt th{;!re
would be no more discussion on the items until the full-blown report w;s
ready.
MOTION: Com. Johnson. to continue Applicàtion l-GPA-80 until the
Meeting of November 24, 1980
SECOND: Com. Adams
VOTE: PASSED 4-0
(Com. Blaine absent)
RECESS
9:20 P.M
The Meeting reconvened in the Conference Room at 9:30 p.m.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS:
2. Discussion of Central Fire District's Land Development Standards.
(Discussed in the Conference Room, without record).
REPORT OF PLANNING COMMISSION
REPORT OF PLANNING DIRECTOR
ADJOURNMENT
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