PC 02-09-82
CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, CA 95014-3255
Telephone: (408) 252-4505
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MINUTES OF
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THE ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COM}!ISSION
FEBRUARY 9, 1982, KENNEDY JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL
CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA
Chairperson Claudy called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m., Kennedy
Junior High School.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: Adams, Binneweg, Blaine, Koenitzer, Chairperson
Claudy
Staff Present:
Director of Planning and Development Sisk
City Clerk Cornelius
Director of Public Works Viskovich
Assistant Planning Director Cowan
City Attorney Kilian
Director of Parks and Recreatiaþ Dowling
Approximately 175-200 citizens were present.
Chairperson Claudy introduced the Commission and staff members and stated
that this was the third public hearing for the proposed Seven Spring Ranch
development. He gave a brief review of the prezoning process and stated
that the Planning Commission will probably meet regarding this matter
again on February 22, 1982.
Mrs. Fay King, 7748 Squirehill Court, spoke in opposition to the poten-
tial widening of Stelling Road to four lanes. She stated that those in
the courts off Stelling were often trapped. She recommended the widening
to either five or three lanes to allow for stacking lanes. She also
stated that there were many speeders in the area.
Dr. Barbara Stofer, 20555 Prospect Road, requested that the area be
subdivided in a reasonable way. Her preference was open space, as
an alternateJa low density development. Concerns were sewer capacity,
lack of water, traffic and density. She stated that Highway 85 should
be completed or there should be no development. She requested that
density be cut to 1/2 or 1/3 of the proposal. She also suggested that
the City conduct a contest for school children to develop plans.
Dr. Stofer stated that the City government's job is to consider those
who have been here in the community.
Mrs. Jones, 21550 Edward Way, showed a transparency demonstrating the
various paths she uses to drive her daughter to school. She stated
that often her daughter ends up walking. She further stated that
traffic was already "broken down" on J:1cClellan by the golf course
and on Rainbow. She stated that the Bubb and McClellan intersection
is choked by a four-way traffic light and that road should be reserved
for residents and that other traffic should be on some kind of freeway.
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Kirchner Forrest, 11360 So. Stelling Road, representing the Home-
owners Association of Cupertino, expressed the opinion that not
much thought had gone into what's going on. He stated that no one
wants high density. He expressed concern regarding the additional
traffic on Stelling as he could not get out of his driveway now.
He stated that if Stelling was widened to four lanes there would
just be more congestion. He also stated that the signs prohibiting
trucks were not visible until drivers were already on the road.
He requested that Highway 85 be completed and requested information
regarding costs of each traffic alternative and if each were added
up, how far would the figure come from completion of Highway 85.
He expressed concern regarding the effect that additional homes
would have on law enforcement capability. He said that he had
heard a rumor of a recall if citizens protesting this development
do not get consideration. He suggested that Stelling be widened
to three lanes, two in the direction of heavy traffic during the
morning commute and then changing to the opposite direction in
the evening for the late commute. He asked if it were fair to
close traffic to one area and push it on another (this is a Council
decision). He asked if widening Stelling would encourage or discourage
traffic flow (he was told that it could encourage traffic flow).
He asked if residential streets were for residential use (yes),
is Stelling a residential street (no).
(City Clerk's Note: The responses to questions were from the
Director of Public Works.)
Chairperson Claudy stated that Stelling is an arterial street
and the majority of traffic was from the local residents. He
further stated that Council was elected, not the Planning Commission.
The Commission is chosen to serve all the City and not just one
neighborhood. They are an advisory body to Council. Mr. Forrest
asked if it were possible to close Stelling part of the day to
allow residents to get in and out. He also asked if a fair proportion
of the residents' taxes were being spent in the residents' neighborhood.
Chairperson Claudy stated that they probably were, basically for
street maintenance, police and fire.
Opal Lemmer, 1120 So. Stelling Road, stated that she has tried
various routes in driving to work and has found them all to be
congested. She stated that Cupertino was no longer a nice place
to live and she would like to move, basically because the town
is choked by traffic. She felt that widening Stelling would not
make things better, and asked how it could be considered to let
more houses be built and to have more traffic and more people
when the town cannot handle what it already has.
Ann Anger, 10185 Empire Avenue, stated that she had been working
with the City of Cupertino for 11 years to attain the completion
of Highway 85. She introduced Dave Fadness, the Chairperson of
the Multimodal Task Force. He stated that the appropriate authorities
in Washington, D. C. have signed off on the Highway 85 Corridor EIS
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and that the corridor is not a dead issue. With the signing of the
EIS,approximately $6 million is available to protect the Highway 85
corridor. He stated that it was a mistake to boost local streets
and recommended that money not be spent that way. He further stated
that in 1957 Route 85 was promised, and he urged citizens to make
the state follow through on that promise.
Mr. Robert Anthony, resident of the recent San Jose reorganization
area, asked what it would cost to maintain Stelling and the other
artery roads around Seven Springs. He felt that streets were deterior-
ating and holes had already started forming since the last repaving.
Shelley Williams, Brookridge Drive, Saratoga, stated that in 1980
the Planning Commission and City Council endorsed the preservation
of Highway 85 corridor from De Anza Boulevard to Highway 101. The
City of Saratoga is holding public hearings regarding Highway 85
in February and March. He quoted nationwide statistics which showed
that 83-1/2% of travelers do use private vehicles.
Alf Modine, 10385 Prune Tree Lane, requested that Adriana Gianturco
of CalTrans be invited to Cupertino for a meeting. He also asked
what percentage of the gas tax goes to rapid transit.
Director of Public Works Viskovich stated that he believed approximately
25% of the money going to the County can be diverted to transit.
Mr. Modine informed those present that he was a member of the Citizens
Goals Committee and also of the subcommittee regarding traffic. He
stated that if Highway 85 were put through even to Prospect, it would
divert people from Stevens Creek Boulevard and keep them from filtering
through the neighborhoods. He also said that there would probably
be no need for an underpass at the intersection of De Anza and Stevens
Creek Boulevards. He urged citizens to become politically active
and to support those running for office who want Highway 85.
KaylinKoslowsk, 1568 Stelling, stated that the City of Saratoga is
planning an access road from Mt. Eden which would bring traffic to
Prospect Road. Director of Public Works Viskovich said that this
would result in approximately 800 vehicles in all day traffic.
Ms. Koslowsk stated that apparently the City of Saratoga did not mind
putting their traffic on Cupertino streets. She said that she often
cannot get in and out of her driveway and that people pass on the
right when she is trying to get into her driveway. She also stated
that several cats and a dog belonging to her had been run over. She
requested that Stelling be closed and rather than wait for the completio
of Highway 85 that some mitigation regarding traffic be acomplished
now.
Mr. Don Allen, 7465 Plum Blossom Drive, stated that only the problem
in Cupertino could really be dealt with and he felt that the group
present was unanimous in the belief that Highway 85 should be completed
before Seven springs is developed. He further stated that business
interests in the area seemed disinterested in the completion of the
freeway to Prospect. He said that Stelling is a secondary street,
and it is not used that way because 85 is not completed. The City
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needs a relief system and must do everything it can to get Highway
85 through if only to Prospect. He stated the opinion that if
85 goes through to Prospect, Saratoga will then want to have the
freeway completed. He further stated that no building should
be approved unless there is capacity to handle the dwellers.
Jon Unter, 21192 Maria Lane, stated that living in the foothills
she could see traffic coming from Campbell Avenue and Highway 9
in the Los Gatos mountains to Cupertino streets. She stated that
more blockades would be nothing but bandaids. She further stated
that there is a need for Highway 85 but there is also a need for
some traffic mitigation now.
Shelley Williams stated that tomorrow evening at 7:30 p.m. (February
10) at 13777 Fruitvale Avenue, the Saratoga Planning Commission
was conducting a General Plan review.
Wayne Star, 1356 Primrose Way, requested that the City take care
of the residents already there. He requested that the City keep
the Hoover site fields.
Jerry Sullivan, 7630 Kirwin Lane, stated that he would be affected
by any Bollinger extension. He further stated that there are
many accidents in front of his house, and he has had cars on his
front lawn. He said he has talked to the planners before and
he feels that the proposed project is a good one; however, one
would not build a house in the hills without water and traffic
is just as important. Complete Highway 85 before building the
project. Be fair to the community. He inquired about inclusionary
housing and stated that he felt it was unfair to put that next
to Rl housing.
Chairperson Claudy said there was no BMR requirement on Interland
for this project.
Mr. Sullivan asked if the Commission was responsible to the people
or to Interland and requested that they think about what is best
for the people in Cupertino.
Dr. Stofer stated that the largest portion of the tax bill went
for schools, and the citizens had bought the schools in the first
place and why do they have to buy a school back.
Mrs. Anger, member of the Citizens Goals Committee and the Transportation
Task Force, stated that a consultant had been hired to review
the staff study and the Committee study on traffic. She further
stated that the traffic alternatives listed in the report would
use money set aside for Highway 85.
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Mr. Wes Williams, 10067 Byrne Avenue, stated that he personally would
not have direct impact from Seven Springs development. He said that
he had tried to get City action on Highway 85 and that the Director
of Public Works had done a good job, but now is the time to do more.
Get the traffic load off City streets. Highway 85 would move people
through the town. In regard to youth sports, Mr. Williams stated
that a three-acre parcel was not sufficient but would affect parenti
child participation. He stated there was a need for a large site
like Hoover. He asked if we are causing, aiding and abetting future
delinquency.
Tom Cate, 1105 Elmsford Drive, representing the West Cupertino Home-
owners Association, stated that he had read the entire Seven Springs
EIR. He felt that one thing the Planning Commission could do regarding
the traffic problem was to turn down the Seven Springs application.
There would be 419 houses, approximately 1,100 people, and most likely
two automobiles per house. As a developer he felt this was a poor
location for the proposed project. He stated that the EIR contained
inconsistencies, was biased and made misleading assumptions. He stated
there were errors in Table No. 4 and felt it unlikely that the proposed
mitigation measure pertaining to traffic (encouraging people to walk
and ride bicycles) would work. He stated an inconsistency in figures
pertaining to number of dwellings. The statement on page 110 of the
draft EIR that the development will not cause traffic effects to reach
unacceptable levels was not supported in his opinion. He further
stated that in this particular price range there is not a housing
shortage in Cupertino. He also felt it debatable that the homes were
close to job centers. He felt that the proposed development would
not alleviate the housing shortage and it would make the traffic situati
worse. He expressed opposition to the Seven Springs development and felt
that the negative impact on traffic was understated and the good aspects
overstated.
Chairperson Claudy stated that EIR's were financed by the applicent.
The City hired an independent third party in order to receive an unbiased
report. He explained the draft EIR and EIR process.
Mr. Cate stated that he had had engineers and lawyers review the draft
EIR. He felt that it needed a lot of work and stated a need for the
City to be impartial.
Ted Swanson, Cupertino Homeowners Group, asked if the City were planning
any funding for another EIR.
The Chairperson informed him that City funds are usetl for EIR's only
for City projects.
Mr. Swanson expressed extreme concern regarding how the EIR was formal-
ized. He had questions regarding its validity and stated the opinion
that there was a large magnitude of mistakes. He stated that Stelling
and Bubb are residential streets and extensions of Highway 85. He
informed the Commission that Director of Public Works Viskovich and
11r. Nolte had addressed the homeowners group and at the end of the
meeting the Director of Public Works had said that he agreed with
what the group stated and that there were gross problems, but what
they failed to see is how the Cityis built - to a breakdown condition
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and then take action that will patch/fix the condition. Mr. Swanson
asked if that were the Planning Commission, City Council and staff
modus operandi. He further stated that at the meeting Viskovich
had said that the City is dealing with land use development first
and traffic later as the money from the developer was needed to
fix the traffic. He requested that the City put down a healthy
foundation before growth. He stated that he did not want to advance
"patch/fix" type of planning.
Chairperson Claudy stated he had never heard of "patch/fix" before.
Director of Public Works Viskovich stated that he did have a meeting
with the homeowners group and many issues were discussed including
the freeway. He had stated that the problem has to exist before State
funds are available. He further stated that the City is in the
same position. It is necessary to prioritize funds. He stated
that it was unfair to quote him as had been done. He stated that
there are many programs and funding is a problem. The technical
answers are there, but not the money. Therefore, level of service
must be set.
Mr. Swanson stated that the Director's statements had been fair
but he felt the point was that some decision making needed to
be done prior to any funding, and building should not be continued.
Paul Sonnenblick stated that he would like to correct an impression
that seemed to have been expressed in the newspapers. He is not
happy with the development. Even if the traffic problem is solved
the density is too high, the internal circulation is poor and
the rural nature of Upland Way is in peril. He reviewed a handout
prepared by the West Cupertino Homeowners Association pertaining
to the data used in traffic studies and the EIR. He further stated
that the Planning Commission needs credible traffic studies, the
final EIR, Parks and Recreation Commission input and public input
on these items. He recommended that the public hearings be continued
until the final EIR and traffic studies are available to the pubIc.
He quoted a statement by Chairperson John Claudy from October
16, 1980 and stated that Commission and City Council need to under-
stand the importance of adequate traffic capcity from a development,
keeping traffic off of local streets and maintaining a proper
quality of life for Cupertino residents. He stated that an initiative
is being prepared to take steps to solve the traffic problem.
He expressed concern regarding the traffic in the development
itself .
Chairperson Claudy asked what it would take, in Mr. Sonnenblick's
opinion, for the traffic data to be credible. (This was in reference
to the draft EIR.) Mr. Sonnenblick stated that the report should
be consistent, the backup data should support the exhibit (Figure
2), the numbers regarding residences do not hang together. He
stated that the Director of Public Works' models did not form
a"gestalt" with the EIR. Other concerns pertained to understanding
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and agreement on baseline data, projection, assumptions regarding
growth, assumptions regarding traffic and knowing basic assumptions
governing the math model.
Mr. Bill Lewis, Bollinger Road, stated that he wished to say something
regarding Residential Streets for Residents. He stated the group
is trying to get together some bylaws and objectives. They do not
wish to be involved in closing, blocking and opening streets. They
are interested in a broader scope and serving all the people. He
felt the message should be clear - that if you are appointed by Council,
you represent all of the people. He expressed the opinion that he
âid not believe any of the Commissioners lived in the impacted area.
Therefpre they had a greater obligation to examine the proposed develop-
ment and its impacts. He requested that the development not be approved
until Highway 85 is in place. He felt that if it were approved the
City was leading the group to take political action. The group would
support Mr. Sonnenblick's initiative to get 15% of the electorate
to sign. He requested that the Commission not serve two masters,
to try to find the solution to the problems and not to do anything
until the solution is in place.
Kay Duffy, Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District, stated that
she had some answers to questions expressed at the last meeting. She
requested the opportunity to give these answers at a more appropriate
time. She urged everyone to go out to the area and see what is being
proposed.
Chairperson Claudy stated that the room had been reserved for February
22 but it might be more appropriate to wait until the Goals Committee
Traffic Report and the draft EIR comments are available prior to another
meeting.
Director of Public Works stated that the consultant's report is expected
to be completed in March, and the groups represented at the meeting
were welcome to go over the reports with him.
Com. Koenitzer suggested that the hearing be continued to the regular
meeting of Harch 8, and at that time the Commission could decide when'
to meet again at Kennedy Junior High for the Seven Springs Hearing.
City Attorney Kilian suggested that it be readvertised when the new
meeting date is set.
It was moved by Com. Blaine, seconded by Com. Binneweg and passed
unanimously to continue the hearing to the regular meeting of March
8 in City Hall.
Continued
At 10:55 p.m., the meeting was adjourned.
ATTEST:
APPROVED:
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Claudy, Chairman