PC 12-11-89
· -CITY OF aJPER1'INO, STATE OF CAIJ:F()RNIA
103QO Torre Avenue
CUpertino, CA 95014
(408) 252-4505
MINOl'ES OF '!HE RmJIAR MEE1'lliG OF '!HE PIANNING CXDIISSION
HErD ON DECEMBER 11, 1989
SAIlJI'E 'IO '!HE FIAG:
The meet:in:J was called to order by 01aizpars0n Adams at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners Present:
0laiZ1IIan Adams
Chnmi.....ioner Blaine
CcBmnissioner Claudy
Chnmi ....ioner Mackenzie
Commissioners Absent:
None
staff Present:
:Robert cowan, Director of Caram.mity Development
Dorothy OJrnelius, City Clerk
City Planner Cëwghey
Travice Whitten, Assistant City Eß;Jineer
Leslie IDpez, Dep.tty City Attorney
ro5TFONEMENTS :
It was II¥JVed by Camn, Mackenzie, seocIOOed by Camn. Claudy and passeð
unaIÙJ'OC>USly to continue Items No.3, 6 and 7 to the regular meeting of JanuaIy
8, 1990.
WRITI'EN o::!>IMDNICATIONS:
OJai:rperson Adams anna.moed that all written t'nIIIYII"'Iications received pertail1ed
to agema items.
ORAL o::!>IMDNICATIONS:
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a:>NSENT CAIENI:1àR:
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PI.ANNING CD1MISSION MINO'l'ES
Regular Meetirg of December 11, 1989
roBLIC HEARINGS:
Item 1:
AwJ.ication No(s) :
Applicant:
13 -U-89 and 14-FA-89
SObrato Develooment CC!11canies
Director of Cammunity Develo¡:ment Cowan reviewed the city Council action and
r~ c:hëmJes.
John SObrato presented ('nmmi "'-sion with new drawin;Js and stated that there had
been an error in the original calculation of square footage. There was
actually less square footage than originally deter1niI1ed. Build.i.rx;r.õ in the new
proposal are c10ser to I.any way residents; however, protection 1.IIOU1d be
offered via wide barrls of trees, J::ut not alon; the property lines so the sun
will not be blocked from those livin;J nearlJy. Mr, Sobrato proposes to plant
the trees l'ICM so that they will be large by the time the development is
~lete. 'Ihe dense p1antirgs will also prevent a visual co=idor into the
site. Unusable as office space amenities planned include cafeterias, an atrilml
and main co=idor space. 'Ihe main differences !ran the project previously
presented are the c10ser proximity to I.any way; the back building is 1'ICM two
build.i.rx;r.õ and there is =re green space; nm'e parki.n; has been buried resultin;J
in a mre canp.IS-liJœ settin;J. A major artpiece has been incorporated near
DeAnza Bou1evard. '!here is reè!t'oeñ gross square footage as a result of reduced
atrilml space. 'Ihe silos on the exterior of the build.i.rx;r.õ have been eli.mil1ated
and air con:li.tionin;J units plaœd on the roof. 'Ihe City Council had directed
that the follCMin;J be looked at: height, setback, traffic and amenity space. In regard to the height of the build.i.rx;r.õ, in recent times floor heights have
been increased as a direct result of open space floor plans. 'Ihe m:xle is 1'ICM
at least 10 foot high in a finished state. '!here are few colUi!D1S. 'Ihe
proposed buildings are 62 feet !ran the top of the parapet to the floor. other
buildings in town are 59 feet. Including mechanical equipment, they are 67.6
feet and with a doghouse, 71 feet. With a building 62 feet high, the addition
of the doghouse on the roof1tlOUld result in a 75 ft. high building.,
Mr. Sobrato told the C"nmmi "'-sion that he was willin;J to go to the extra expense
to put mechanical equipment in the œ-11t. He wants to retain the atrilml
glass roof. Mr. SObrato shewed a transparency of the existin;J development with
an overlay of that which is proposed. '!here would be 283 feet from the back
property line to the proposed buildiIg which is nm'e than the present
develo¡:ment. He passed out the design guidelines for stevens Creek Boulevard
"san:ipile" effect. Slides shc:Mi.n:J the views of the exi.stin;J build.i.rx;r.õ from
I.any Way were reviewed. 'Ihe top story of the exi.stin;J buildings can be seen
except where trees exist in the plantl.rq strip and within the parki.n; lot. He
shewed examples of various other sites in CUpertino with trees ~
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PlANNING CXMrrSSION MINUTES
Regular Meetirq of """""'"her U, 1989
A gentJ.eman residin;¡' at 10698 I.any way said that the new deveJ.opment is
significantly different than that previously passed by the Plannin;¡'
Chnmi"'8ion. 'nJe number of buildin;¡s are different, the height is different,
the buildi.r¥Js are closer to the residents. He felt that inaccurate data has
been presented. :Residents do see the present buildin;Js. He expressed conœm
regardin;r traffic flow ani requested a new traffic study with guidelines from
the City, He expressed coœern regardin;r traffic to be generated from the
project, He said it looks like there will be a 71 ft. buildin;¡' on a 10 ft.
berm which equals 81 feet ani expressed corx:eJ:T1S that Hewlett-Packard is no
lon;¡er the ~u~ tenant. He requested that the development be resubmitted
to CalTrans ani that there be an EIR on the project.
Wes Wiegel, 10726 I.any Way, said that he had called CalTrans that afternoon
ani had talked to Mr. Chan;¡". Four different tenants in the development chan3'es
the prospects regardin;r car pools, etc, He asked when the traffic study was
done by Barton-Aschman ani was infomed the period COITered was May through
October. Mr, wiegel said that when it was done, there was one tenant in min:i.
'Ibis area will h'pact all of OJpert:ÍI1O, Saratoga, etc.
Kenneth Johnson, 10511 I.any Way, expressed coœern regardin;J the choice of
trees. He requested that they be evergreen ani not acacia. His allergies are
affected with arr:¡ kin:3. of acacia. Also, pine trees would result in needles
droppin] in yards.
Darwin nu:one, 22958 Cricket Hill Road, said the proposed development is an
:iJ¡provement aver \llhat currently exists; however, arr:¡ development needs careful
review. Same of his corx:eJ:T1S were alleviated; however, he had still had
concem regardin;J umerestimation of current space. He encouraged the
Chnmi "",ion to look at the numbers carefully ani to look at the lon;¡-teJ:m
possibilities. He expressed uOOerst:arñin;J f= the residents' corx:eJ:T1S ani
stated that tonight's concerns SOIJI'ds like: \llhat do you see ani how much sun
do you lose.
Mr. Sobrato presented a shadow study transparency. At 2:00 p.m. on June 21,
there would be no shadow on the residential property. At 2:00 p.m., December
21, there would be none on the residential property. 'Ibis study was done as
per City Council direction. At 4:00 p.m. in June, there would be no shadow on
residential property. At 4:00 p.m. in December, there would be some. In
regard to Mr. Johnson's coœern about height of trees, Mr. Sobrato said that
the ideal would be 30-35 feet ani the approval could contain a condition that
the developer maintain that height f= the trees ani keep them tr:iJnmed. In
regard to Mr. Prosser's coœern, an average had to be used. As per City
Council, he W'OrIœd with Mr. Carlan to deteJ:mine the siteline drawin;r. If there
is a problem, Mr. Sobrato said he would use a tree other than acacia; it just
may take lon;¡er to grow. '!he traffic study was done by looki.n;J at the zip
codes of the cars at various c::œplter businesses in the cx:mm.mity. '!he results
shewed that they cx:me about 50% north of town ani 50% south of town. '!here may
be a differential of about 5%. No Environmental In'pact Report had been
requested. A focused EIR was done. 'Ibis project is not different enough than
the previous one for a new EIR. 'nJe developer is ac:c:epti.D] the TI:M IreasUres
PrarWgated by the Golden Trian;¡-le Task Force.
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PIANNING CXJMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meetin;J of December 11, 1989
Mr. cowan addressed l"nmmiRSion reg¡u:din;J the accuracy of data. He said that
the city had also been oonœrned ani got a civil erqineer. 'lbose residents
furthest frail the wall will see the buildin;J, J:ut it will be far away, '!be
City's traffic erqineer ani Director of Public Works I\¥JI'Ù.tored the
Barton-Aschman report.
It was m:JVed by camn. Mackenzie, BeCOl'I3ed by camn. maine ani paesed
1J1'1aIÚ.m:JuSly (4-0) to close the public heariIq.
Commission <'Ii """1SSed the proposed height of the buildin;Js ani setbacks as
follows:
12 ft. stories is no 10l'KJer a practical way of buildin;J;
expressed conc:em reg¡u:din;J height in general; expressed
conc:em reg¡u:din;J the shift of buildin;Js to the east;
invasion of privacy fran an office buildin;J is different
than that fran another house because it means hun:3reds
of stran;Jers lookin;J into yoor bane; has not yet decided
if the trees will be adequate screenin::J, however trees
IIDJSt be evergreen ani no acacias should be used; æœn.ity
space all right; Level D traffic acceptable; arùy
conc:em is privacy introsion. If the trees will \<IOrk as
a screen, then the buildin;J location is acceptable;
however, would prefer them xwved to the west or the
height rearran;¡ed.
Prefers placement of mechanical equipnent in the
ba=møT\t; buildin;Js are tolerable where they are
proposed; however, could slide evmythin;J 20 ft. tcMards
DeAnza Boulevard; height, per se, is not a big deal as
10l'KJ as ÍIl¡)acts are mitigated; likes proposed
architecture; suggested that buildin;Js not be hidden,
but be exposed.
Mr. Cowan pointed out that the general plan places a four-story limit on the
buildin;Js .
Ccmn. C1.a\ñy -
Ccmn. m.aine -
Ccmn. Maclœnzie -
Ccmn. Maclœnzie -
Felt design was better; can uroerstan:l height of floors
J:ut believes the l"nmmi"'sion had 11-12 ft. stories in
mini; consider rencviIq one stoxy frail each of B.1i1din;Js
C ani D ani addin;J one to B.1i1din;Js A ani E; no major
problems with the traffic; sane concem reg¡u:din;J what
is ani isn't counted as æœn.ities.
SUggested the front buildin;Js be Jrore square; felt trees
are a good solution in regard to privacy; expressed a
conc:em that proposed improveœnts for traffic be
:ÌJ!plemented in a timely fashion; stated that the
æœn.ities issue is a policy issue ani may need to be
looked at; however, for this develq;ment, the æœn.ity
calculation should remain as is.
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PIANNING CXMoIISSION MllIUTES
Regular Meetin] of ~hø.r 11, 1989
Felt the proposed layout of builc:lin;s was better than
before; in regard to height, suggested that the
builc:lin;s be terraced and there be mre ~
parkin;J; fOUIXi the setbacks acceptable with the trees;
satisfied regardin;J the traffic issue as lan,; as the
improvements are done; in regard to amenities, fOUIXi the
calculations acceptable, but the City may want to look
at the policy.
Summary: Setback acceptable, but if possible, 1001ld prefer it be mved or
:rem::we a story from arllc:lin;s C and D. Trees must go in. Traffic and proposed
iltprovement acceptable. It was mved by Camn. Mackenzie, secon:'Ied by Ccnmn.
Blaine and passed 1.1l'\al'liJoouly (4-0) to send a summary of remarks to the city
council alan,; with :rec:amnen:3ed changes to con:litions.
Calm. Adams -
Chúzperson Adams announced that the tentative date for this application to be
heard by the City council will be JanuaI}' 16, 1990,
RECESS: 10:30-10:40 P,M.
Chairperson Adams announced that Item No.5 on the ageOOa will be taken at this
time..
Item 5:
Application No(s): 27-tJ-89 and 38-FA-89
Applicant: Pasadena-Granada Com.
'!he architect and applicant have requested continuance of the application to
the Canunission meetin] of JanuaI}' 8.
It was mved by Ccnmn. Mackenzie, secon:'Ied by Ccnmn. Claudy and passed
unaniJwusly (4-0) to continue Applications No. 27-tJ-89 and 38-FA-89 to the
meetin] of JanuaI}' 8. At that time it will be the first item on the agema
after the Consent Calerx:lar.
Item 2:
Application No(s): 5-V-89
Applicant: steve Ho
Assistant City Planner Caughey reviewed the application with the Ccnmnission.
Ron Dick, Cémpbell, representin] the applicant, gave backgroun:i of the
application to Ccnmnission. He stated that, at the t:iJne of the application, he
was not told of the need for the dedication. He had brought a plot plan into
the city and it was approved aver the counter. After drawin;¡' up the fiI1a1
plans and goin:J in for a buildin:J permit, he was told of the dedication.
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PIANNING CD1MISSION MINt1I'ES
Regular Meetin:f of ~her 11, 1989
Travis Medley of San Jose, a partner in the group bui.1cl:in3 the heme, said the
general contractor had asked questions about what was allowed, what was
necessary, etc. 'Ihese questions were never answered. '!be proposed variance
will not hurt the area am the resultin:¡ bui.1cl:in3 will conform with those
surroun:iin;J. He UIged the I"nmm; "'sion to relieve the an;¡uish of those bui.1cl:in3.
Morey Nelson, stevens Creek Boulevard, 0Jpertin0, addressed cammission
regardin;J the width of Granada Avenue. He stated that it was wider than Oran:]e
by five feet. If Granada were the same width as orange, the variance \oIClÙd not
be necessary.
Ran Dick told the I"nmm; "'sion that to the east one lot ever, are others who had
the same problem am went through the same precess. Applicants are not gettin:¡
the right information.
steve He, one of the owners of the property, said that the issue goes back to
early May. '!be first plan was turned down as too large; plans were nKlrawn
am the square footage of the bui.1cl:in3 ~1~. 'Ihœe plans were turned down
because of the necessary dedication which had not been mentioned previously.
He sees no reason for Granada to be 60 ft. wide.
Travis Medley stated that they had anticipated cums, gutters am pavin:¡, but
there was no mention of dedication. He stated there apparently is a
lY1mmI mication problem in staff.
Mr. Nelson said that what is c:onfusin:¡ is that the bui.1din;¡s right across the
street do not meet the setbacks Mr. He is bein::J asked to meet.
Mr. Dick told the Cc:mnission they had asked plenty of questions am did not get
the right answers. If one were to measure setbacks further down the street,
sjhe \oIClÙd firxi that what is bein::J proposed is in accoràance with what is
already there.
Mr. Medley said that the boose next door is a new one; it was not built when
his bui.1cl:in3 was started. It is still not done; however, on the front it looks
like if it conforms, it is very, very close.
Travice Whitten, Assistant City ErxJineer, said the street widths are part of
the general plan am part of the Manta Vista specific plan, Mr. Nelson has
done a n1mhør of projects in this area requirin:¡ a dedication.
Mr. cowan said that Granada is the only east-west street 60 ft. wide; it
carries extra traffic by design.
Mr. Nelson stated he was brought into the project at the final stages. He has
been involved in projects with am without dedication requirements. He
expressed the opinion that arr¡ dedication requirement should be brought out at
the be;JinniIx;J of the process.
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PlANNING o::H{[SSION MINUTES
Regular Meetin;J of nør-ømher H, 1989
It was m:JVed by camn. Claudy, seoorxied by camn. Mackenzie am passed
m1aI1.i.Joously to close the public hearirg.
It was m:JVed by camn. Claudy, seoorxied by camn. Blaine am passed 1.1I1aI1:!=.1s1y
to deny Application No. 5-V-89 subject to fin:li.n;¡s am subconclusions of the
public hearin;J am per wJ:ài.rq of the staff report.
Item 3:
Application No(s):
Applicant:
23-U-89 am 33-EA-89
Maria Tuna
Previously continued to the meetin;J of JanuaJ:}' 8, 1990.
Item 4:
Application No(s):
Applicant:
16-'IM-89 am 37-EA-89
DeAnza Properties
Assistant City Planner Caughey reviewed his report am told the n-mmi "''''ion tbat
this was the last Below Market Rate pipeline project am tbat the developer
1NClÙd probably suJ:mit in-lieu fees. '!he tentative map fails to identify <Y'II11I'IIn1'\
areas; they will need to be identified in the final map. Also, there needs to
be a covenant regardi.n;J access am maintenance. A covenant designatin:J 15
parJdn;J places within the project for C1ateau CUpertino also needs to be
recorded at the final map stage.
John Vidovich, applicant, said the apartment buildin:J will operate as a rental
project.
It was m:JVed by camn. Claudy, seoorxied by camn. Mackenzie am passed
1.1I1aI1:!=.1s1y (4-0) to close the p.¡blic hearin;J.
CamIn. Blaine stated she cculd not approve the application because it cculd
easily be converted to corx:1aminiums in the future.
It was m:JVed by camn. Mackenzie, seoorxied by camn. Claudy am passed
1.1naI1im:xJsly to reopen the p.¡blic hearin;J.
Mr. Vidovich stated tbat the propJSed aparbœnts had been redesigned so they
cculd be proper corx:1aminiums. '!he bank looks at this as a large loan am if
the corx:1aminium map is denied, there will be no rental units. '!he bank looks
at the security of their loan am the corx:1aminium map enhances tbat security.
Mr. Cowan stated tbat in m::>st large scale projects, the developers want the
corx:1aminium map approved as it is of greater econanic value.
Mr. Whitten pointed out tbat once the map is approved, the developer cannot be
stopped fran recorc:Iirq it.
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PLANNING cn!K[SSION MINUTES
Regular ~ of ~¡""".r 11, 1989
Mr. vidovich stated that approval of this map would not harm the City in aIr:!
way.
It was l1¥JVed by Camn. Claudy, sec:on3ed by Camn. Mackenzie and passed
1.I1'1aI1ÍlooUsly (4-0) to close the p.Jblic hearirq.
Ccmnnission suggested that durirq the general plan review an "aparbnent only"
designation be considered.
It was l1¥JVed by Camn. Claudy, sec:on3ed by Ccmm. Mackenzie and passed
1.I1'1aI1ÍlooUsly (4-0) to ~'Ù the granting' of a Negative Declaration.
It was l1¥JVed by Camn. Claudy, sec:on3ed by Camn. Mackenzie and passed 3-1 with
Camm. Blaine dissentirq to recommend approval of the application as per
fin:ii.n;Js and subconclusions of the p.Jblic hearirq and staff report.
UNFmISHED roSINESS:
Item 6:
Application No(s) :
Applicant:
5-EXC-89
Lance Ge=' I:>racht
Previously continued to the meetirq of JarlI.IMY 8, 1990.
NEW BUSINESS
Item No.7:
Application No(s):
Applicant:
51.868.1 and 36-EA-89
Citv of OlPertino
Proposed "Xeriscape" (low water usage) landscapirq guidelines.
***STAFF RÐ;;.UESTS CX)N'I'IN(JANCE 'IO JANUARY 8, 1990***
Previously continued to the meetirq of JarlI.IMY 8, 1990.
REroRl' OF 'mE PIANNING cx::t>!MISSION:
Camm. Claudy asked what the requirements are regardi.rq outdoor display in the
parJd.rr;J lot at the Payless Showirq Center. He also inquired about the City
ordinances, if aIr:!, govem.in3' 40-45 ft. l1¥JVirq vans beirq brought home by
persons and bei.n;¡ parked every night in residential area.
Camm. Mackenzie expressed concern regardi.rq grocery carts beirq kept outside
and the recyclirq machines along the pedestrian areas at the Payless Shoppirq
Center. He requested that the City ask Central Fire Protection District to
look at the fire lanes. He also inquired about the am:Jl111t of m:mey issued by
the recyclirq machines when bottles are brought back.
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