PC 02-09-76
CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California 95014
Telephone: 252-4505
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HELD ON FEBRUARY 9, 1976. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL
CUPERTINO. CALIFORNIA
SALUTE TO THE FlAG
Chairman Gatto called the meeting to order at 7;40 p.m. with the
Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Comm. present:
Comm. absent:
Adams, O'Keefe, Chairman Gatto
Cooper, Woodward
Staff present:
Director of Public Works Viskovich
Assistant Director of Planning Cowan
Assistant City Attorney Kilian
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of Regular Meeting of January 26, 1976.
Page 3, paragraph 7, line 7 should read: "on a lot and maintained
by the homeowners. They plan...... n .~
Page 7, paragraph 5, last: line should read: "activity controls
and restoration of ground cover requirements shall be accomplished "
Moved by Comm. Adams, seconded by Comm. O'Keefe to approve the
Minutes of January 26, 1976, as corrected.
Motion carried, 3-0
Minutes of Adjourned R'egular Meeting of January 15, 1976.
Moved by Comm. Adams, seconded by Comm. O'Keefe to approve the
Minutes of January 15, 1976, as recorded.
Motion carried, 3-0
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Jan. 26th Minut.
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Jan l5th Minute,
approved
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POSTPONEMENTS
3-Z-76 cont'd
to Feb. 23rd.
Per the request of the staff, it was moved by Comm. O'Keefe, seconded
by Comm. Adams to continue application 3-Z-76 to February 23, 1976,
to allow more tUne for data gathering in regard to parking.
Motion carried, 3-0
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
1. Letter from Miss Sally Dodge registering opposition to San Carlos
Homes proposal.
2. Unsigned letter opposing some of the uses of property in Old
Monta Vista.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - There were none.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. Applications l6-U-75 and l6-TM-75 of SAN CARLOS HOMES & DEVELOPMENT;
USE PERMIT to allow construction of 50 single-family residences in
a planned development zone; TENTATIVE ~.AP to subdivide 50 residential
lots plus one lot containing ll.9 acres to be held in common. Said
property is located southerly of and adjacent to Voss Avenue at its
westerly terminus. First Hearing continued.
The Assistant Planning Director stated this application was contínued
at the last meeting to enable the Planning Commissioners to walk the
property to familiarize themselves with the terrain and to allow the
applicant to reconsider some of thê concerns introduced at the last
public hearing. The Assistant Planning Director reviewed the transparency
of the site showing the areas that will be graded and the relationship
of the access roads with this proposal, as well as the location of the
half-acre pond. He compared this applicant's original plan with the
current one. He noted the concept of traditional, single-family homes
has been approved, although the total number of units has not yet been
established. He brought to the attention of the Commissioners the slight
shifting of the long cul-de-sac to the right which puts Some of the
homes closer to the knoll. A retaining wall will be required at some
spots along Alcalde Road. The architect is now proposing Unit #16 be
single-story, although the exhibit on the board did not reflect this change.
Colored slides of the property were shown, illustrating how the grading
will affect the area. The Director of Public Works saId Alcalde Road
will be improved 2 lanes including curbs and gutters.
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The staff hopes the H-Control Committee will require rounding of
the cut areas to relieve the sharpness of the cut.
Chairman Gatto complimented the Assistant Planning Director on the
ccmprehensive presentation.
Chairman Gatto commented that from an aesthetic point of view, th
soil creep does not interfere with the concept of the proposal.
The staff recommended the Planning Commission make the determina-
tion that the City should not take over the responsibility of the
pond. It has a limited educational value and it is hoped some
other agency or private entity would take over the responsibility.
The pond's use is too limited for inclusion in the City's park
system. If the pond is dedicated to a public or private agency
a dam stability study should be performed to ensure public safety.
The developer should put up a $5000 bond for this purpose, If
the pond is not accepted it will be drained.
Comm. Adams was answered by the Assistant Planning Director that
Condition 19 allows the people to come in for a use permit to
allow horses on the property. The City has ordinances that deal
with the protection of, public health where animals are concerned.
Civil Engineer James Carroll,' lS South Bayshore, San Mateo, said
the Assistant Planning Director gave a comprehensive review of
the modified proposal. He submitted some minor modifications on
the siting. Lot 16 is now single-story unit. It is at grade
with the adjacent duplex lot. He also showed how there has been
some minor moving of some of the units. He said they agree to a~
but Condition 18 which deletes unit 19. He does not believe that
unit hampers the view of the other lots nor the view from Voss
Avenue. He said the visual corridors are very important to them.
Landscape architect Mel Lee, 1932 Polk Street, San Francisco,
said they will bé using native trees and shrubs. They will hydro
seed with rye and/or California wild flower mix. In addition,
soft chest grass will' be used for fire protection. He said one
means of fire protection would be to clear 30' back from and
around the units. A temporary watering system would have to be
ùtilized for the plantings, until they become established. The
parking cul-de-sacs will have larger trees. Some eucalyptus tree
may be introduced in the large open space for fast growth.
Fences were discussed next. Mr. Lee presented two schemes: rail
type with 4 x 4 posts and 2 x 6's running horizontally; and
2 x 6 open wire mesh screen with 8' and lO' posts on center. He
said 1 x 4 or 1 x 6 vertical members WQuld be introduced in some
areas.
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Mr. Lee answered Chairman Gatto that 35% of the trees will be l5-gallon
size and 65% will be 5-gallon size. He said there is a fair amount of
replacement of the hydromulsion material. Chairman Gatto said he would
like to see a maintenance bond or erosion prevention bond requirement.
Comm. O'Keefe asked if the developer has previously used this type
fencing design. Mr. Lee said it has been used on single-family homes
in Hillsborough. He added that the fencing here will be varied.
Comm. O'Keefe is concerned about the impact of the fencing on the valley
below. Mr. Lee said the screening would appear to be open and the
wood fence areas will have plant material on them.
Mr. Carroll answered Comm. O'Keefe that there will be approximately
300 feet of fencing visible from Voss Avenue. The remainder of the
fencing will be open type defining the open space belonging to this
development. Carom. O'Keefe questioned the need for these fences,
stating that they are more in keeping with flat areas. He believes
that here we may be bringing some building techniques to the hills that
might not be appropriate.
San Carlos Homes President Jack Chamberlaine said they have just
completed two developments similar to this -- and without fences.
Of the homes that have been sold, the people are putting up fences.
He said he would be delighted to leave them out, but fences appear
to be an integral part of California living. Mr. Carroll agreed that
fences are a maintenance problem. There are deer in this area, and
they would present a very real problem to the shrubbery, etc. He said
he is willing to work with the staff in deciding which type fences
should be in which areas.
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Comm. O'Keefe observed that we will also be faced with fences within
fences because these proposed fences do not meet the swimming pool
ordinance requirements. Mr. Carroll stated most 1, 2, and 3-acre lots
in Portola Valley and Los Altos Hills have fences and they are not
objectionable. It was pointed out that the density here is higher.
Comm. Adams asked about the fill under unit #50. Mr. Carroll said
it has about 6' of fill under it. The deepest fill is not at the
unit but rather at the bottom of the retention basin. The fill at
another unit is about 9'. Carom. Adams anticipated future problems with
these two homes. Mr. Carroll 'said this will be taken care of properly.
Chairman Gatto asked for comments from the audience.
Mr, Don Pezzolo, 228llA Medina Lane, Cupertino, stated that no fences
would be the most desirable condition. If this were a part of the
C C & R's that there would be no fences it could be controlled. TheE
are a lot of walls in this development in addition to fences. He said
moving the cul-de-sac to the north will give us a lot more grading.
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Mr. Pezzolo said he would like to see the total number of units
reduced by S. He is still concerned about the amount of grading
and fill, particularly in respect to the soil stability. He ask
what happens when that hill comes down on the units set right up
against it. He is disturbed with Condition 21, which allows
changes in the plan without public hearing. He said that as bad
as the De Anza Oaks subdivision is, there are no fences.
With respect to Condition 21, the Assistant Planning Director sai
the staff could not approve a modification of the plan with eithe
an increase or decrease in number of units. ,This condition allow
the City to act on minor alterations to avoid a 2-3 month delay
for the developer. The Director of Public Works explained the
storm drain requirements that will be provided.
Mr. Pezzolo referred to the 1973 Rogers and Armstrong Montebello
Land Study made, including this area. He said this area has a
very high water runoff. That, coupled with the relative seismic
stability of this area really concerns him.
Chairman Gatto stated this public hearing was on the use permit;
the zoning has been approved.
Mr. Pezzolo said he read recently where the Mid Peninsula Regiona
Park District is looking at the Catholic Church property. He sai
it would be nice to have them also take a look at the pond.
Mrs. Lucien Hertert, San Juan Road, asked that more time be given
to work out the possibility of saving the pond and having it
turned into an educational resource. She said Mr. Chamberlain , ~
has been very considerate. Perhaps this section could be split
off from the remainder of the property. She asked for more time
to continue working for saving of the pond. Chairman Gatto said
he hoped 6 months would be long enough.
Ms. Ann Anger, Monta Vista, said she is very much concerned for
open space. She used to be very much in favor of cluster develop
ments. She said natural terrain has to be taken care of. She
said you cannot have cattle nor horses here to keep the grass do
The people in Saratoga are very concerned right now about the
cluster developments with open space. There is concern about
where to put new developments. She said she is in favor of good,
orderly development of the hillsides and the flat land. She said
the people will take care of their individual lots, but not the
open space. Once the homes are sold the developer will be out of
the picture and the homeowners association is stuck with the
problems.
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Mrs. Judy Horst, Lockwood Drive, said her main concern is the flat,
developable portion of this hillside. She asked that more consideration
be given to the hillside. She does not believe SO homes fit on this
property. She is concerned about the fate of the existing trees on
the property.
Mrs. Patricia Blake, Lockwood Drive, said she owns one of the duplexes
in the middle of the block on Lockwood Drive. This proposal shows
too many buildings for the amount of open space. She also is concerned
with the setback between the new development and the existing duplexes.
I She said she is a native Californian. The only reason she has a fence
is because when there were horses they would come into her yard. She
said we will lose the rural atmosphere with fences. She said for 11
years the drainage has gone down the local streets and overflowed.
Moved by Comm. O'Keefe, seconded by Comm. Adams to close the public
hea;ing.
Motion carried, 3-0
Discussion followed. Comm. Adams felt the H-Control Committee should
have the responsibility of determining the detail of the fencing.
I He felt the word "minor" should be added to the last line of Condition
21 on page 4 of the Resolution. With regard to Condition l8, Carom.
Adams said this development has been cut from 71 units down to SO.
If we wanted less than that, this should have been stated earlier.
Comm. O'Keefe said an application for development of this property by
a different developer came in at l8S units. De Anza Oaks first,eame
in at 211 units. Carom. O'Keefe is concerned that we are bunching a
great number of homes in our foothills. He felt the number of units
for this site was excessive. He does not want to see great soil
removal. He feels this could be reduced as many as lO units.
In regard to density, Chairman Gatto said this site is unique in that
the original property line did not break between flat and hilly land.
This proposal rapidly reduces the density as it goes up the hill.
The area of greatest concern is what happens on the Alcalde side.
Chairman Gatto does not believe unit 19 is that much of a problem.
He would be in favor of removal of units 44 and 4S, as on the previous
plan. He is not opposed to the units along Alcalde; the existing
duplexes there are 2-story. Only half of these units are 2-story. He
would like to see the short cul-de-sac from Alcalde adjusted to accommodate
the tree rather than remove the tree. there is a need to balance the
need for outside privacy with the open space requirement. He would like
to see the fence program restudied and reviewed by H-Gontrol. He would
like to add a phrase requiring slope rounding to condition 17. and
it should be reviewed by H-Gontrol.
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Comm. O'Keefe asked the Assistant City Attorney what options the
City has in regard to the pond. Attorney Kilian said there are
two options: a public agency takes over operation of the pond,
or the pond is eventually removed. Comm. 0 'Keefe said that if we
keep on covering our flood streams and ponds such as this we will
lose some of our natural resources. It is his contention that
when a developer purchases land with these resources on it, that
it is his responsibility. It is not important to Comm. O'Keefe
what agency maintains the pond, but that it must be preserved.
The Assistant Planning Director said that if the pond is retained
in private ownership they would undoubtedly want to drain it
because of the liability. If it is open, the children in the
development will use it and everything that makes that pond
unique will be destroyed. The Assistant City Attorney advised
that if it remains in private ownership they would have the right
to restrict it to the use of the people in the development.
Comm. O'Keefe made a motion that the City Council be requested to
pass a resolution that this pond be made a part of this parcel
and that it shall be maintained and preserved. When this motion
received no second he amended it to the effect that the City
Council be requested to say yes or no on the matter of saving of
this pond; that the pond be retained in perpetuity and the
homeowners association be responsible for maintenance of it and
that it be amplified at tentative map stage, at which time more
regulation shall be spelled out. There was no second to this
amended motion.
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Moved by Comm. O'Keefe that the pond be maintained in perpetuity
and costs be assumed by the property owners and homeowners assoc-
iation. Comm. Adams seconded this motion, although he felt it
was unreasonable.
Pond to be
retained
Discussion followed. Chairman Gatto was assured by the Assistant
City Attorney that the private ownership of the pond means they
can do anything they want with it. Given six months, if the
community and/or its resources did nothing to save the pond, then
to put this burden on the property owners is not viable. Comm.
O'Keefe believes this is something the developer should assume.
The pond has real value, just as trees do. The pond has as much
value as preservation of the hills we are trying to preserve.
This motion strikes Condition l6 (c) and replaces it with the
condition that the pond remain in perpetuity.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Comm. O'Keefe, Chairman Gatto
Comm. Adams
Comm. Cooper, Woodward
Motion carried, 2-l
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It was noted that it is still possible for the developer to deed the
pond to an agen~y if he so desires. Carom. O'Keefe said he is not
interested in ownership, but rather in the preservation of the pond.
Moved by Carom. Adams, se~onded by Carom. O'Keefe to approve appli~ation
l6-U-75, subje~t to Conditions 1 through 23 of the Yebruary 6, 1976
staff report and modified as refle~ted in Planning Commission
Resolution No. 1493.
Mr. Carroll wanted to respond to these modifi~ations. With regard to
modifi~ation of the ~ul-de-sa~ to preserve the tree, this would
affect the grading all the way ba~k. That tree in question is an a~a~ia
which is bad for people with allergies, is messy, and has a root system
that causes problems to streets, etc. With regard to modifying
Condition 16 regarding the pond, they feel the simple answer is for
the City of Cupertino to just accept this pond for public use. The
time frame on the decision on the pond should be one year with a six
month extension if necessary. They oppose having to maintain it for
public use, but it would be all right for private use. Regarding the
dam stability, he wanted to add the words "providing the dam is stable".
He would not like to be in the position of having to go in and make
it stable. As to Condition 18, Mr. Carroll said they could pull that
cul-de-sac back to its original location. They have no objection to
working with H-Control on the fencing. They have no objections to
modification of Condition 21.
Mr. Carroll answered Carom. O'Keefe that they intend to break ground
in June, if possible.
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Mr. Lee said that acacia tree is 20 years old now and will probably
die within another lO years. They are coming in with specimen trees
to replace that tree. Carom. Adams said he would opt for repla~ement
of that tree rather than change the grading plan.
Upon the advice of the Assistant City Attorney, it was moved by
Carom. O'Keefe, seconded by Comm. Adams to reopen the publi~ hearing
in regard to the saving of that tree.
Mr. Don Pezzolo
like to have it
specimen tree.
agreed that type of tree would be a problem. He would
replaced with something larger than a l5-gallon size
This information will be forwarded to the H-Control.
If the dam is not stable the appli~ant ~an request further consideration.
AYES;
NOES;
ABSENT ;
Carom.
Carom.
Comm.
Adams, Chairman Gatto
O'Keefe
Cooper, Woodward
Motion carried, 2-1
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Chairman Gatto called a recess at lO:27 p.m. The meeting recon-
vened at 10:40 p.m.
Chairman Gatto stated agenda items 2 and 3 would be reviewed
concurrently.
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2. Staff Report regarding automobile-oriented commercial land
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3. Application 12-U-76 of PHOTOTECHNOLOGY: USE PERMIT to allow
a photo kiosk in a CG (General Commercial) Zone. Said pro-
perty is located at the southwest corner of the intersection
of Stevens Creek Blvd. and East Estates Drive. First Hearing
continued .
The Assistant Planning Director reviewed his February 6, 1976,
memo entitled: "Report on Drive~p Facilities", and his staff
memo of the same date entitled: "Application 12-U-75 - Photo-
technology (Chas. Brown)". He stated that the City became
involved in studies of drive-up facilities during the public
hearings for a Jack-in-the-Box proposal when persons in the
audience asked why the City was not concerned about cars idling
in the parking lots.
The Assistant City Attorney advised, in regard to Dr. Myronek's
report, that the Planning Commissioners should withhold any final
decisions on the report at this point. Dr. Myronuk could review
his report and the Commissioners could ask questions, but no
conclusions should be made at this time.
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Dr. Don J. Myronuk, 1407 Bryan Avenue, San Jose, 95118, reviewed
his report entitled: "Carbon Monoxide and Sulfur Oxide Levels
Attributable to Use of Drive-Up Window Facilities", dated Februar~
5, 1976.
Comm. Adams asked if Dr. Myronuk did not consider other oxides as
a problem. Dr. Myronuk said his report does not address them.
Further, he said this is just a fingerprint of the kinds of
problems we will be encountering. He answered Comm. O'Keefe that
if driving were prohibited in Cupertino it would not make that
much of a difference; it is a regional problem.
Dr. Myronuk called attention to the "canyons" created by building~
in close proximity that entrap these oxides. He answered Chairma1
Gatto that there is the possibility that installation of fans I
could be effective in blowing away the particles. He said medica~
åuthorities in the Los Angeles Basin are flabbergasted at the I
levels of oxides in the air down there.
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Moved by Carom. O'Keefe to accept Dr. Myronuk's report for study, and
that it should become a public document, including public input.
There was no second to this motion.
Moved by Comm. Adams, seconded by Comm. O'Keefe, to forward
Dr. Myronuk's report to the City Council and to instruct the staff
to set it for public hearing to consider future changes to the
ordinances were necessary.
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ABSENT :
Comm. Adams, 0 'Keef e
Chairman Gatto
Comm. Cooper, Woodward
Motion carried, 2-1
Discussion next centered around application l2-U-75. The Assistant
Planning Director said this application has been continued for a number
of meetings, awaiting Dr. Myronuk's input. The City has historically
been opposed to commercial use of parking lots. From a technical
point of view, the staff recommended denial of this application in
view of Dr. Myronuk's report, Another reason is that this kiosk is
at the end of a parking lot aisle and could cause maneuvering problems.
Although the applicant was apprised of this meeting and received a
copy of the staff report he was not present at this meeting.
Moved by Comm. Adams, seconded by Comm. O'Keefe to continue appl\cation
l2-U-75 to allow the applicant another chance to appear at the public
hearing on his application.
Motion carried, 3-0
4. Applications 4-Z-76, 1-TM-76 and 2-U-76 of VALLCO PARK, LTD.:
REZONING 4.8 acres from P (Planned Development with light industrial
intent) zone to P (Planned Development with professional office,
commercial and recreation use intended) Zone or whatever Zone may
be deemed appropriate by the Planning Commission; TENTATIVE MAP
to divide approximately 11.4 acres into two parcels; USE PERMIT
to allow construction of one building containing 10,700 sq. ft.,
one building containing 13,217 sq. ft., the construction of six
tennis courts and the relocating of a 2,200 sq. ft. building pre-
sently located at the southeast corner of Pruneridge Avenue and
Wolfe Road. Said property is generally located adjacent to and
westerly of Wolfe Road immediately southerly of the Vallco Village
Shopping Center. First Hearing.
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Chairman Gatto advised the applicant that 2 Commissioners were j
absent from this meeting and the zoning application would require
3 affirmative votes. The applicant had the option of postponemen
on the zoning. The Assistant City Attorney answered Vallco Park
General Manager Walter Ward that in the event it did not receive
a 3-0 affirmative vote it could proceed to the City Council on
appeal. On that basis, Mr. Ward said he would like to go ahead
with the public hearing, inasmuch as this has been going on for
two years.
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The Assistant Planning Director reviewed the diagram on the
bulletin board of the existing development in Vallco Village and
of the proposal at hand. The General Plan was recently amended 1
to allow this development to take place. The traffic phasing I
was restructured to allow development of l.B acres of the "uncom-
mitted" land. In terms of zoning, this proposal is consistent I
with the General Plan and the traffic constraints. With regard
to the use permit, the staff recommended the drive-up windows be
deleted based on health reasons and on the fact that the kiosk in I
the previous application was denied. The drive-up facility at th~
present location of the bank in Vallco Village has presented some I
problems. The staff was also urging access to "Lands of Mine" be '
maintained when parcel 2 is developed. I
The Director of Public Works answered Chairman Gatto that this ¡
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application does not include the closing of the left-turn lane i
from Wolfe Road into the Vallco Village Shopping Center. Chairmani
Gatto said he is concerned about access to Vallco Village from ¡
Pruneridge Avenue. He felt the proposal presented at this meetin~
was strictly for the benefit of the bank. , ~I
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Mr. Walter Ward said they have no problem with the conditions
proposed by the staff on the zoning and on the tentative map.
He was in favor of retaining the entrance to the Center by the
Red Coach restaurant. On the use permit, Mr. Ward said he had
some questions and concerns. The first application for the bank
with drive-up windows has been planned since 1963. With the four
drive-up windows there will probably only be one or two cars in
line at a time. There are 4500 Hewlett-Packard employees across
the. street and Watkins-Johnson will have a approximately 1500. These
people will drive to Santa Clara to do their banking if this bank
leaves Vallco, as they have indicated they must do if not granted
the drive-up facility. He said he has never seen more than a
single car at one time at the Glendale Savings and Loan. He said
they have 14% more landscaping in front of the bank than the
recently approved California Canadian Bank. He said he could not
see how the pedestrians will be protected by no drive-up windows.
(He was referring to Condition 16 in the February 6th staff report.)
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Condition l7, regarding lighting of the tennis courts, was discussed
next. Mr. Ward said the lights will be so designed as not to protrude
beyond the property line. The Planning Commission determined it would
be permissible to allow night lighting until 10:30 p.m. and there shall
be no paging systems or outdoor music.
As to Condition 19, Mr. Ward said they have had accoustical studies and
found the ambient level at Bullocks Department Store to be acceptable.
In regard to the Tentative Map proposed conditions, Mr. Ward said they
would prefer to hold off on the dedication along Wolfe Road for the
present time. As to Condition 18, he said Mr. Mine has stated that
he wished to keep his property residential, with access to Linnet Lane.
Mr. Ward felt he should pay his fair share of the road costs if he has
access to Wolfe Road.
Mr. Bob Holding, representing the First National Bank of San Jose,
wanted to address that portion of the staff report regarding drive-up
windows at other banks in Cupertino. He said Crocker has no room for
drive-up windows at their older location. Wells-Fargo never has drive-up
windows at their banks. Savings and Loan companies are a slightly
different type of operation. He said his bank's proposal offers
walk-up as well as drive-up facilities. Instead of 8 cars in one lane
they would have 2 cars per lane. The system is set up with four
kiosks and 2 tellers so they have twice the service. The pneumatic
system won't carry large amounts of coins, etc., so the people with
long, drawn out transactions would be discouraged from using the
drive-up facilities, and would be encouraged to come into the bank,
even after regular open hours. Mr. Holding said they have drive-up
facilities at 9 locations in the Santa Clara Valley. For the time
being, they don't anticipate the volume at this location to change
appreciably. Their future growth is based on growth of the community.
Because of the overcrowded conditions, they have expanded to two
locations in Vallco Village. The permit for the loan office expires
in November. Mr. Holding stressed the fact that they can't compete
without the drive-up facilities.
Mr, Walter Ward said the drive-up windows were taken into consideration
in the General Plan hearings.
In terms of specific comments to Mr. Ward, Dr. Myronek said from an
air quality point of view,of a line of cars, 4 cars in a row would
create far less pollutants than 8 cars in a row. But he could not see
the cost benefit of the four drive-up windows. He added that there are
many ameliorating circumstances to consider. He said that in his report
he was focussing on a general problem, not on specific situations.
He tried to point out what happens to air quality wnen cars stack up.
Mr. Ward brought up the present stacking of cars at the inadequate
drive-up facility, due to the congestion at the bank and restaurant.
Mr, Ward said that they have had a traffic study since this factor was
brought up in 1973. He asked if a "grandfather clause" could be
considered.
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Architect Dick Griffith answered Chairman Gatto that he tried to
integrate the architecture of this proposal with that of Vallco
Village. Chairman Gatto stated he does not believe this archi-
tecture is up to the standards of the Vallco Village.
Comm. Adams opted to leave Condition 16 of application 2-U-76 in.
Comm. Gatto said he believes the drive-up portion is part and
parcel of the banking facility. If it proves to be a health
hazard, there are mechanical ways to alleviate the problem.
Comm. O'Keefe said'he would like to defer his opinion on this
for the present time.
At to Condition 17, it was decided the night lighting of the tennis
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courts should go off at 10:30 p.m., as happens at the City courts
and there shall be no paging system nor outdoor music.
It was decided Condition 18 should be left in,
Comm. O'Keefe believes Condition 16 should be deleted.
As to the tentative map conditions. the Director of Public Works
suggested Condition 19. The developer shall join future assessme t
districts with uniform wording from other applications. Mr. Ward
said they have a property cut off because of Mr. Mine's decision.
If that property develops, the developer should be responsible
for access. The Assistant City Attorney advised it was perm is sib e
to speak to this issue but it is not binding in this particular
application.
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Moved by Comm. O'Keefe, seconded by Comm. Adams to close the
public hearing on application 4-Z-76.
Motion carried, 3-0
Moved by Comm. 0 'Keefe, seconded by Comm. Adams to recommend to
the City Council approval of application 4-Z-76.
4-Z-76
approved
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Comm.
None
Comm.
Adams, O'Keefe, Chairman Gatto
Cooper, Woodward
Motion carried, 3-0
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2-U-76
approved
2-U-76 public
hearing reopene
2-U-::76
continued
l-TM-76
approved
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Moved by Comm. O'Keefe. seocnded by Comm. Adams to close the public
hearing on application 2-U-76.
Motion carried, 3-0
Moved by Comm. O'Keefe, seconded by Comm. Adams to approve application
2-U-76 with the 14 standard conditions, condition lS, amended condition
l7 and condition 19, with the numbers of the conditions to be changed
to read consequetively.
Chairman Gatto commented that he had no objections to the uses, but the
circulation is awkward. Mr. Ward said this has been discussed with the
Director of Public Works and they feel the solution is in the signing
which they will, hopefully, get resolved.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT :
Comm.
Comm.
Comm..
O'Keefe
Adams, Chairman Gatto
Cooper, Woodward
Motion failed, l-2
The findings were: Chairman Gatto felt the major circulation pattern
did not function well. Comm. Adams wanted Conditions 16 and 18 left in.
Moved by Comm. O'Keefe, seconded by Comm. Adams, to rescind the
previous motion and to reopen the public hearings.
Motion carried, 3-0
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Moved by Camm. O'Keefe, seconded by Comm. Adams to continue application
2-U-76 to February 23, 1976.
Motion carried, 3-0
Moved by Comm. O'Keefe, seconded by Comm. Adams to close the public
hearing on application l-TM-76.
Motion carried, 3-0
Moved by Comm. O'Keefe, seconded by Comm. Adams to approve application
l-TM-76 with the 14 standard conditions and Conditions 15 through 19
as listed in the February 6, 1976 staff report.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT :
Comm. Adams, O'Keefe, Chairman Gatto
None
Comm. Cooper, Woodward
Motion carried, 3-0
MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 9, 1976 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
The Assistant City Attorney advised the Commissioners absent from
this meeting should listen to the tapes of the public hearing
before the next meeting.
5. Application 3-Z-76
POSTPONED TO FEBRUARY 23, 1976.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS: None.
NEW BUSINESS: None.
REPORT OF PLANNING COMMISSION
Chairman Gatto, reported that he learned at the monthly luncheon
that the City Council will study the Hillside Plan on March 9th.
A policy decision made by the City Council is that from now on,
General Plan Amendments will be made three times per year: in
January, May and September. Information from the general public
will be accepted.
REPORT OF PLANNING DIRECTOR: None.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Gatto adjourned this meeting at 12:46 a.m. to 7:30 p.m.
February 18, 1976.
APPROVED:
ATTEST:
N~
Gatto, Chairma
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Win. E.
yder, City Clerk
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