PC 04-25-77
CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Avenue~ Cupertino, CA 95014
Telephone: 252-4505
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEEIlNG OF THE PLANNL.1G COMMISSION
HELD ON APRIL 25, 1977, IN THE COUNCIL C!L!\MBER, CITY HALL
CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
Chairman Adams called the meeting to order at 7:40 PM with the
Salute to the Flag.
ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN A..'ID VICE CHAIRMAN
Moved by Comm. Blaine, seconded by Comm. Markkula to postpone the
elections until the end of the meeting, since not all Members were
present at this time.
Motion car~ied, 4-0
ROLL CALL
Comm. present: Blaine, Gatto (7:50), Koenitzer, Markkula,
Chairman Adams
Connn. absent: None
Staff present: Director of Planning and Development Sisk
Assistant Planning Director Cowan
Assistant City Attorney Kilian
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of Regular Meeting of March 28, 1977:
Page 2, paragraph 6, line 3: Put a period after the word "hillsides"
and strike the remainder of the sentence. In the next sentence,
strike the word "or" after "1/4 acre". The last sentence in that
paragraph should read: '~here is a proposed change in the charges
that . . . . District."
Page 4, paragraph 2, line 3, after "current policy." add: "Mr. Starr
said they will continue to approve septic tanks in the same manner
as they are do ing now."
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3/28/77
Minutes
approved
4/11/77
Minutes
approved
Seismic/Safety
Element cont'd
for 1 month
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 25, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Moved by Comm. Koenitzer, seconded by Comm. Blaine, to approve the'
Minutes of March 28, 1977.
Motion carried, 4-0
Minutes of Regular Meeting of April ll, 1977:
Page 13, just prior to item 9, last line should read: "windows on
adjacent building." instead of "windows next door". Add to the end
of the paragraph: '~he applicant was requested to provide a complete
report on the site survey work including readings taken at all the
locations tested.
Page 13, 4th paragraph from the bottom, line I, replace "Valley Church"
with ''Valley Christian Schools".
Moved by Comm. Blaine, seconded by Comm. Koenitzer, to approve the
Minutes of April 11,1977, as amended.
Motion carried, 4-0
POSTPONEMENTS:
Upon request of the staff, it was moved by Comm. Koenitzer, seconded by
Comm. Markkula to continue for one month the public hearing on the
Seismic/Safety Element.
Motion carried, 4-0
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
The Assistant Planning Director stated correspondence had been
received fram Messrs. Childress and Jacobs in regard to Agenda Item 1.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. CITY OF CUPERTINO: Public Hearing to consider an amendment to the
Land Use Element of the General Plan regarding the installation of
sanitary sewer improvements and/or other ~provements in the hill-
side areas regulated by a slope/density formula.
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 25, 1977 PL&~NING COMMISSION MEEGING
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The Assistant Planning Director summarized the April 22, 1977
staff memo regarding this item. Because of the pattern of
development of the Regnart Canyon area, the ownership of the land,
etc., it was the staff's opinion that septic tanks should be
allowed in the Regnart Canyon. In the remaining hillside areas
the staff feels, based on the evidence, that sewers should be
required. The staff is still recommending in subdivisions where
lot sizes are 2.5 acres or larger that the same standards as
in Regnart Canyon should be allowed. He then reviewed the
"Procedural Steps" on page 3 of the April 22, 1977 staff report.
Comm. Blaine asked if the staff was recommending two drain fields
where septic tanks, are allowed. Chairman Ad~s asked the staff
how this would be implømen~ed if if i~ recomme"ded by the Plann'n2
Cnmmission. The staÍf deferred to Mr. Hildebrand.
Mr., Glenn A. Hildebrand, Supervising Environmental Health Sanitar-
ian for Santa Clara County, answered Chairman Adams that this
implenentation would be by City Ordinance, which the County
Health Department would honor. He said the idea of two drain
fields is a good one. The mechanism exists because this has been
required by a neighboring city, Los Altos Hills, for 8 years.
If the homeowner will· merely flip the valve every six months he
should have a very efficient system.
Mr. Hildebrand reviewed his April 19, 1977 letter to Mr. Robert
Cowan, answering his questions regarding: 1) Health Related
Aspects; 2) Septic Tank Installation Standards; 3) Septic Tank
Maintenance; and 4) Alternative Individual Sewage Disposal Systems
He explained the "split system" where there would be 400 lineal
feet with 400 potential feet, with 1/2 used at one time. You
would merely turn the valve to put the other half into use.
Comm. Koenitzer asked if the Health Department can force someone
to vacate their home where a septic tank fails. Mr. Hildebrand
said he has never seen anyone moved out of their home, nor water
turned off, but there have been some instanceS where someone has
been prosecuted.
Comm. Markkula asked 1£ development of the Williams I property
would require Sewers. The Assistant Planning Director said it
would.
Comm. Blaine asked the status of the Inspiration Heights property.
The Assistant Planning Director said that in this area there are
some existing homes and existing septic tanks.
Comm. Blaine asked if there are any package systems in the County.
Mr. Hildebrand said he has seen one and has heard of another in
this area. He does not believe this approach would be suitable
in the area We are talking about. Some have very high electrical
usage.
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MINUTES OF THE APRIL 25, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Chairman Adams asked for comments from the audience.
Mr. Ellis Jacobs expanded on the letter he and Mr. Richard Childress
wrote to the Planning Commission April 25, 1977. He said FHA Bulletin
U533 describes a viable method of disposing of sewage. With proper
design and proper rest, a drain field can be used almost forever.
This method he referred to is very efficient in breaking down deter-
gents, etc. Mr. Ellis Jacobs said he has been supervising design of
septic tanks for over 30 years.
Mr. Richard Childress added that when done right, the septic tanks
do seem to work for many years. There are some bulletins available
from the University Extension Service in this regard. He said he
feels very strongly that the septic tank system will work in the
Regnart Canyon.
Mr. Jerry Merkel 0 , llll9 Sutherland, Cupertino, said he has just
completed building a home in the Regnart Canyon area. He said the
requirenents for septic tanks now are much more strict than they used
to be. He believes a requirement of two drain fields should not be
necessary; it is too cautious and too expensive. Percolation
characteristics are very important. The length of tile field is
determined by type of soil. The longer the drain field, the better
the holding capacity. Mr. Hildebrand said the County does not make
blanket statements because there are so many variables.
After a lengthy discussion, Comm. Blaine said she nOw knows more about
septic tanks than she ever wanted to know. She would prefer a split
system of septic tanks in Regnart Canyon.
Ccrmm. Gatto said the benefit of this system is that it gives a drain
field time to rest.
Comm. Markkula cautioned that we must not compare the surface area
required hy a dual conventional drain field with the area required by
a dual dra~n field with the more recently developed channel design.
Ccmm. Blaine felt that at this time, sewers were an unnecessary and
added expense for those wishing to live in ~ëgnart Canyon.
Ccmm. Koenitzer said he was in favor at this time of the dual drain
fields in that about 1/3 of Regnart Canyon is already built with
septic tanks.
Ccmm. Markkula said he definitely was in favor of a dual field with
a valve provided it was of the newer design, similar to that used in
Los Altos Hills.
Moved by Comm. Blaine, seconded by Comm. Koenitzer to close the
,Public Hearing.
Motion carried, 5-0
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 25, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Moved by Comm. Blaine, se~onded by Comm. Koenitzer, that the
Planning Commission recommends to the City Council approval of
a preliminary general plan amendment regarding installation of
sanitary sewer improvements and/or other improvements in the
hillside areas regulated by a slope-density formula; that Policy 3
be reworded as recommended by the staff which will amend subpara-
graph L under Utilities Section; subparagraph M shall be amended
which references the Regnart Creek area; and this proposal be
forwarded for the Environmental Assessment procedure.
AYES:
NOES:
Comm: Blaine, Koenitzer, Markkula, Chairman Adams
Comm. Gatto
Motion carried, 4-1
Comm. Gatto said his negative vote was because it is his feeling
that the septic tank requirement should remain for all hillsides.
Moved by Comm. Blaine, seconded by Comm. Xarkkula to direct the
staff to draft an ordinance con~erning septic systems and'split
systems, and that this be brought back to the Planning Commission
at the next meeting. In the process of doing this, the Los Altos
Hills Ordinance should be researched.
AYES:
NOES:
Comm. Blaine, Gatto, ICoenitzer, l1arkkula, Chairman Adams
None )
Motion carried, 5-0
2.
Public Hearing to consider the adoption
Element to be incorporated in the City's
CITY OF CUPERTINO:
of a Seismic/Safety
General Plan.
This item was postponed at the beginning of this meeting.
3. CITY OF CUPERTINO: Public Hearing to consider adoption of
an ordinance regulating location and establishing appli~ation
procedures for adult related commercial activities including
motion pi~ture theaters, massage parlors, adult cabarets,
public dance halls, adult book stores, or other uses as
determined by the Planning Commission.
The Assistant City Attorney explained that once a City has commer-
cial activities, the Supreme Court has held a commercial endeavor
cannot be restricted that is in conflict with the First Amendment.
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Sewer /Septic
Tank amendment
to General Plan
approved
Staff directed
to draf t an
ordinance re
septic systems &
split systems
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MINUTES OF THE APRIL 25, 1977 PLANNL~G COMMISSION MEETING
Comm. Blaine asked the Assistant City Attorney if the list of
definitions must be specific. He recommended it, and said that if she
had some things to add she should do so. She then proceeded to add
picture-taking establishments, bath houses, encounter parlors.
Comm. Blaine said she would like the strongest ordinance possible.
These enterprises should not be allowed within 1000 feet of schools
and churches as well as residences.
The Assistant City Attorney explained in depth the "Detroit Ordinance".
Comm. Koenitzer said that with this ordinance, it would be up to the
person who wants to put some pornographic enterprise within the City
of Cupertino to take it to Court.
Chairman Adams noted that we have many empty stores in Cupertino
with this potential threat.
The Planning Director said Planned Development Commercial zoning
requires use permits. General Commercial zoning is probably the only
area where we don't have control over this sort of thing happening.
Comm. Markkula asked what the procedure is for getting rid of the
people who try to get around existing ordi~ances. The Assistant City
Attorney said the use could be abated by citation; i.e., an illegal
use.
Chairman Adams said he had no problem with the proposed ordinance since
the only possibility within the City of Cupertino for a commercial use
more than 1000 feet from residential would be Vallco Park, and that is
PD which requires a use permit. The ordinance could include a catch-all
phrase like: "If the staff is not sure of a particular use the applicant
must come before the Planning CotllJ!1is sion for review of the proposal."
Comm. Markkula felt it would be of some advantage to have our ordinance
somewhat different than that recommended by the County so if someone
were to test that ordinance in the courts and would win, ours would
still require testing in the courts.
Since there were no comments from the audience, it was moved by Comm.
Blaine, seconded by Comm. Markkula to close the public hearing.
Motion carried, 5-0
MINUTES OF THE APRIL 25, 1977, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Blaine to recommend to the
City Council adoption of the ordinance regulating adult theaters
and adult bookstores with certain modifications:
1) Addition of schools, public parks and churches to the 1000'
regulation.
2) Insert a comprehensive clause that cautions that items not
specifically defined in this ordinance will require deter-
mination by the Planning Commission.
AYES:
NOES:
Comm. Blaine, Gatto, Koenitzer, Markkula, Chairman Adams
None
Motion carried, 5-0
ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN
Moved by Comm. Blaine, seconded by Comm. Gatto to nominate Comm.
Koenitzer to the office of Chairman of the Planning Commission.
Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Blaine to close the
nominations.
AYES: Comm. Blaine, Gatto, Markkula, Chairman Adams
NOES: None
ABSTAINED: Comm. Koenitzer
Motion carried, 4-0-1
Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Adàms to nominate Comm.
Blaine to the office of Vice Chairman of Planning Commission.
Moved by Comm. Markkula, seconded by Comm. Gatto to close the
nominations.
AYES: Comm. Adams, Gatto, Koenitzer, Markkula
NOES: None
ABSTAINED: Comm. Blaine
Motion carried, 4-0-1
UNFINISHED BUSINESS: None
NEW BUSINESS: None
REPORI OF PLANNING COMMISSION; None
REPORT OF PLANNING DIRECTOR: ,In addition to Seismic-Safety Elemen
there will be the plan line through Monta Vista on the agenda of
the last meeting in May.
ADJOURNMENT: Chairman Koenitzer adjourned this meeting at 10:05
ATTEST: APPROVED:
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"Porno" ord.
recommended
I
Chairman
Koenitzer
Vice-Chairman
Blaine