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PC 07-11-77 CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, CA 95014 Telephone: 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING HELD ON JULY 11, 1977 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA COMMISSION CITY HALL SALlTrE TO THE FLAG Chairman Koenitzer called the meeting to order at 7:32 PM with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Comm. present: Comm. absent: Adams, Blaine, Gatto, Markkula, Chairman Koenitzer None Staff present: Director of Public Works Viskovich Assistant Planning Director Cowan Assistant City Attorney Kilian Assistant Planner Piasecki APPROVAL OF MINUTES Minutes of June 13, 1977: Page 2, paragraph 5, add "of the cutting off of access" after "situation" on the first line and on line 2 add "and possibly other lots after "264", deleting "and" just prior to "264". Page 4, 3rd paragraph 3, architect's name is spelled "Thimgan"; last line, delete "sidewalk" and replace with "setback". Page 6, paragraph 1, line 1, add "setting a trip end policy" after "decfsíon OUIl and delete "this ". Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Blaine to approve the Minutes of June 13,1977, as amended. Motion carried, 3-0-2 Comm. Adams & Markkula abstained. PC-258 Page 1 June 13th Min. approved PC-258 -- Page 2 June 27th Min. approved 14-TM-77 & 16-U-77 continued 12-Z-77 & ID-TM-77 continued MINUTES OF THE JULY 11,1977, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Minutes of June 27,1977: Page 2, paragraph "Foothill Blvd." 'Imperial Avenue II. 3, last 2 lines: Change "Stevens Creek Blvd." to Paragraph 5, line 4: Change "Orange Avenue" to Page 8, paragraph 2 under Item 4, line 1, add "in Section 15.20.030" after "350 feet". Moved by Comm. Blaine, seconded by Comm. Adams, to approve the Minutes of June 27, 1977, as amended. Motion carried, 5-0 POSTPONEMENTS Per recommendation of the staff, it was moved by Comm. Adams, seconded by Comm. Gatto to continue applications 14-TM-77 and 16-U-77 (B.A.S. HOMES, INC.) to allow time for completion of geological studies. Motion carried, 5-0 Per recommendation of the staff, it was moved by Comm. Adams, seconded by Comm. Blaine to postpone applications l2-Z-77 and lO-TM-77 (ROBERT NELLIS), to first meeting in August. Motion carried, 5-0 WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS 1. From Westridge Country Club Homes regarding agenda item 1. 2. Petition signed by 12 residents on Tula Lane regarding agenda item 8. 3. Four letters concerning agenda item 12, which has been continued to first meeting in August. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS There were none. MINUTES OF THE JULY 11,1977, PLA}TNING COMMISSION MEETING PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. Applications 10-Z-77, 5-TM-77 and 8-U-77 of SAN JOSE BUILDING DESIGN, INC.: PREZONING approximately 5.2 acres from Santa , Clara County CN (Neighborhood Commercial) and RJ-2.4 (Multiple~ Family Residential) to City of Cupertino P (Planned Develop- I ment with single-family cluster, residential, multiple-family I residential and commercial use intent) or whatever zone may be deemed appropriate by the Planning Commission; TENTATIVE , I MAP to subdivide 5.2 acres into 20 single-family cluster lots I and one lot to be held in common ownership, one lot to accom- ¡ modate an existing fourplex and one commercial lot; USE PERMIT'¡ to allow construction of 20 single-f~,ily cluster homes and four commercial buildings. Said property is located at the northwest corner of the intersection of Foothill Blvd. and Stevens Creek Blvd. First Hearing continued. The Assistant Planner distributed to the Planning Commissioners copies of the staff's alternate suggestion for tentative map and acoustical studies. He noted this property is currently in the County. He then reviewed the scope of the applications, details of which can be found in the July 8,1977, staff memo. This proposal is for a 13,000 sq. ft. commercial development 10 addi- tion to the 20 single-family cluster lots. The General Plan calls for a mixture of residential and commercial in this area. However a policy statement indicates no new commercial properties are needed west of Freeway 85. The staff believes this means no new commercial that would be in competition with the Monta Vista commercial. It is felt that this proposed commercial will be highly localized. The Assistant Planner said the second item to be considered is the mixture of land uses. This plan calls for 7 to 8 dwelling units per gross acre, which does conform with the General Plan. As to the impact on the existing neighborhood, there will be commercial USe at the corner of Foothill Blvd. and Stevens Creek Blvd. The Westridge Homeowners Association believes the commercial use should be restricted. They are also concerned about circulation. It was their understanding that Silver Oak Way would eventually come out to Stevens Creek Blvd. He said the other staff concerns are design issues. The noise study is critical. This is designed to conform with Title 25 which indicates less than 45 db. The existing outdoor noise levels at this corner are 7S db and above. Measures recommended by the Acoustical Engineer are: 1) Acoustical treatment of the buildings; 2) Requirement of minimum 18' height of commercial structures; and 3) Some interior acoustical treatment PC-258 Page 3 PC-258 Page 4 MINUTES OF THE JULY 11,1977, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING The staff recommends the setback between the commercial and residential be increased 15 feet. A complete rehabilitation of the existing duplex can be reviewed by H-Control. The parking is somewhat deficient. Colored slides of the property were shown on the screen to familiarize the Planning Commission with details of the area. There will eventually be a traffic signal at the intersection of Foothill Blvd. and Stevens Creek Blvd. English Oak and California Oak are dedicated streets. At such time as the property to the north develops, English Oak will come out to Foothill Blvd and align with Salem. Comm. Gatto explained the nature of the General Plan studies in regard to the status of Silver Oak Way. The Director of Public Works said this plan is in keeping with the original philosophy to discourage access through the residential. Comm. Blaine asked about the status of the truck traffic and the Kaiser operation. She asked if they will use trains to bring the coal in and the cement out. The Director of Public Works said Kaiser has explored this possibility and found the cost prohibitive. He added that sound walls were also considered, but it was found they would be ineffective because there would be too many openings. A secondary access through the Church property was considered but was determined to be unwarranted. Comm. Blaine was concerned about the roadway being placed 2 to 5 feet from the existing fourplex. Comm. Adams asked if increasing the parking stalls to the required 9.5 x 18 will cause any problems. The Assistant Planner said this can be resolved. Comm. Adams asked, in regard to the commercial zoning, whether the PD would require review of all commercial uses. The Assistant Planner said thiS would depend On how the conditions of approval are written. For instance, a cocktail lounge and restaurant and a fast food type restaurant would require review. Chairman Koenitzer asked, in regard to the parking for the fourplex, whether the cars would be backing right out into the intersection of the new driveway. The Assistant Planner said this would be restudied and modified if necessary. Comm. Blaine noted the recommended conditions of approval do not refer to hours of operation. This may be something the Planning Commission would like to add to the conditions. MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Chairman Koenitzer asked the applicant if he had any statements. Mr. Ron E. Percy, 1936 Camden Avenue, San Jose, said they have don~ extensive study on this property. They have found it is almost impossible to do individually, so they have put together a very nice and unique concept of low intensity commercial use and residential. The condominium units are all 2-bedroom, single story units. They have a lake area and gazebos and walkways to serve the entire area. They will send out brochures to the people: in the area asking what type of commercial they feel would be useful to them and he will try to accommodate them. He emphasized ' they want to have the blessings of everybody around there. He said he would like to have 5 to 10 feet between the driveway and the existing duplex. Architecturally, he is trying to tie in, with the area. He offered to answer any questions. Comm. Gatto said this is a rather unique proposal for this piece of land. He asked whether the developer felt the commercial treatment was viable. Mr. Percy said they have talked with financial institutions and to several types of businesses in regard to this concept. He said it will be similar to the Old Mill commercial development. They have several clients ready to go in right now. He said the commercial uses would be serviced in the early morning. He answered Comm. Gatto that the reason for: the commercial ring is to solve the acoustical problems of this corner. Comm. Gatto said he was having a hard time envisioning a successful commercial development with this proposal. Comm. Markkula asked the applicant to comment on the staff's alternate proposal. Mr. Percy said he would like to make sure he can handle the parking for the existing fourplex somewhat differently. He would like to have the parking other than in the front. He wants to discourage traffic from using the residential streets. Mr. R. L. Brinton, 22676 Royal Oak, spokesman for Westridge Homeowners Association, referred to details of the letter he wrote regarding this proposal. He said he does not believe the staff is aware of the traffic problems they are presently experiencing. When that busy intersection jams up, the cars drive through the residential area to get around that intersection. He wondered when the signals were scheduled to go in. As to types of business he said they would not like to see fast food operations here. He said pipe shops sometimes become bookie operations and health food stores sometimes are run by hippies. He said they are already well serviced with liquor stores, etc. He said the traffic has tripled up there in the last five years. PC-258 Pag e 5 PC-25S-- Page 6 MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 1977 PLA.'lNING COMMISSION MEETING The Director of Public Works said the signal for that intersection has been rescheduled on the 5-Year Capital Improvements Program for the next calendar year. Because of development in the area, there is the possibility it could happen before that. Mr. Brinton said that unless there is also a signal at English Oak/Salem and Foothill Blvd., only 1/3 of the traffic problem is solved. Mr. J. N. Plagge, 22754 Majestic Oak Way, said he is a Member of the Board of Directors of Westridge Homeowners Association. He emphasized the fact that the homeowners feel they are furnishing an outlet through their private road for the recently developed units. He asked what would happen 1£ they decided to put up a barrier at Royal Oak Way. It has always been their understanding that Silver Oak Way would be extended. He asked if the new street would be private or public. The Assistant Planner said it will be private. A show of hands indicated about 30 Westridge homeowners were present in the audience. Comm. Blaine recognized the need for another signal in addition to the one at Foothill and Stevens Creek Blvd. ~k. G. H. Harriack, 22762 Majestic Oak Way, an engineer with Lockheed, said he is the Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Homeowners Association. He said the staff shoul~ make every effort to make the traffic flow away from the residential private streets. Ms. Sue Brown, 10046 Sp. Oak Court, said there are twice as many cars as the 136 units almost all have 2 cars per family. She would like to See Silver Oak extended to Stevens Creek Blvd. She would like to know how many people live in De Anza Oaks and to have a study made of how many of those residents go through Westridge. Comm. Markkula wondered 1£ there was enough room for a center lane for protected left turns from Silver Oak to Stevens Creek Blvd. The Director of Public Works said this is a possibility. Comm. Adams said he would like to see that traffic light go in as Soon as possible. The Director of Public Works said the geometry of the intersection must be worked out before the traffic lights can go in. Mrs. Marilyn Sander, 22667 Royal Oak Way, is concerned this is going to be very high density. She emphasized the parking problems in her development, commenting this new one will be even worse. The Assistant Planner said Westridge is 12 units per acre. The proposed development is 7.5 units per acre, with 3.5 parking spaces per dwelling unit. A show of hands indicated most people in the audience were in favor of Silver Oak Way going through to Stevens Creek Blvd. MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 1977 PLANNmG COMMISSION MEErING Moved by COIIDII. Blaine, seconded by COIIDII. Mams to close the Public Hearing. Motion carried, 5-0 Comm. Markkula said he prefers the staff's alternate plan. He agreed with Comm. Blaine that the hours of operation should be restricted for the commercial. He was in favor of the traffic signal with the consideration of a second signal if necessary to solve the traffic problems. He was in favor of the proposal. Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. ~rkkula to recommend to the City Council approval of application 10-Z-77 with Exhibit Bl Second Revision with the 14 standard conditions, condition 15 re- flecting Exhibit A of application lQ-Z-77 changed to Exhibit Bl Second Revision (the staff's alternate). AYES: NOES: COIIDII. Adams, Blaine, Gatto, Markkula, Chairman Koenitzer None 'Motion carried, 5-0 The Assistant Planning Director answered Comm. Blaine that the applicant wants the building wall line to be on the property line. Comm. Gatto said that, generally speaking, the more circuitous you can make the internal circulation the less potential use of these private streets by other than the residents. He felt H~Control should look at placement of the units on the property to allow more parking in front of the garages. From a community- wide standpoint, the H-Control has to take a close look at the architecture of the commercial building at the corner in regard to setbacks and visual break-up. Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Adams, to recommend to the City Council approval of application 5-TM-77, subject to the 14 standard conditions, condition 15 Exhibit B Second Revision, and condition 16 as stated in the staff report of July 8, 1977. AYES: NOES: Comm. Adams, Blaine, Gatto, Markkula, Chairman Koenitzer None Motion carried, 5-0 PC-258 Page 7 10-Z-77 approved 5-TM-77 approved PC- 258 - Page 8 8-U-77 cont'd MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Comm. Blaine had the following comments in regard to the use permit: 1) She likes the staff's recommendation in regard to the roads. There has to be some access to Stevens Creek Blvd., but not too attractive to residents outside this development. 2) She ,is concerned about the road some 5' from the duplex. She is concerned about units so close to the commercial parking lot and the proximity of the buildings to the street. 3) She is concerned about the walls along our major thoroughfares. She suggested the buildings be staggered with landscaping in between. 4) The auxiliary parking is much too far from the units. She liked Comm. Gatto's suggestion of parking in the driveways. Comm. Adams suggested the use permit be acted upon at the adjourned meeting on the 13th, ' giving the staff time to revise the conditions based upon statements made at this meeting. Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Adams to reopen the public hearing on 8-U-77. Motion carried, 5-0 Moved by Comm. Adams, seconded by Comm. Blaine to continue application 8-U-77 to July 13,1977. Motion carried, 5-0 Chairman Koenitzer called a recess at 9:45 PM. The meeting reconvened at 10:00 PM, at which time Chairman Koenitzer announced all items after agenda item 6 should be continued to July 13th. So moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Blaine, to continue agenda items 7, 8, 9, 11, 13 and 14 to Wednesday, July 13,1977,7:30 PM. Motion carried, 5-0 2. Application 10-U-77 of ROBERT E. CHRISMAN: USE PERMIT to allow construction of a building containing approximately 11,750 sq. ft. of space to be used as a retail music store. Said property is located adjacent to and southerly of Stevens Creek Blvd., approximately 450 feet westerly of the intersection of South Blaney Avenue and Stevens Creek Blvd., in a CG (General Commercial) Zone. First Hearing continued. MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING The Assistant Planner said trip ends and access were items to be considered at this meeting. The staff was comfortable with 2 trips per 1000 feet of commercial. The staff fèlt there was not sufficient data on which to base a decision in regard to the storage space. In most retail operations, 1/3 of the space is devoted to storage and 2/3 to retail. Comm. Blaine would like the staff to do some survey work on warehouses and trip generation. Comm. Gatto said he believes condition 16 ties down the trip generation very explicitly. Mr. Bob Chrisman, 280 Parks ide Drive, Palo Alto, said they have surveyed 3 establishments, all doing somewhat different operations Century is located 2.5 miles from their retail operation. Most deliveries are made in the morning. Comm. Markkula asked if Century does mail order business. The app i- cant said they do not do mail order business, nor do they advertis Their actual need of building area is less than 11,550 feet. He said they had no objections to the staff's recommendations. Since there were no comments from the audience, it was moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Markkula to close the public hearing. Motion carried, 5-0 The Director of Public Works said this will be precedent-setting. He is concerned the data is not based on engineering studies. After further discussion, it was moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Markkula to approve 10-U-77, subject to the 14 standard conditions, condition 15 corrected to read "general commercial use 7500 feet" and surplus trip ends to be "0" and conditions 16, 17, 18 and 19 in the staff report, as amended toni~ht. AYES: NOES: Comm. Gátto, Markkulá ;--ChairmariKóenitzer Comm. Blaine, Adams Motion carried, 3-2 Findings: The use or uses are in conformance with the general pla and not detrimental to existing uses or to uses specifically permitted in the zone in which the proposed use is to be located. PC-258 Page 9 lO-U-77 approved PC- 258 Page 10 MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING The property involved is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the proposed usea The proposed use will not generate a level of traffic over and beyond that of the capacity of the existing street system. The tabulation was based on 2 trip ends for the area designated as general commercial 5200 sq. ft. and remainder for the music portion and the number of 25 trips for the dedicated warehouse was based on the applicant's documentation of 0.27 allowed to be doubled to 0.5. The proposed use is otherwise not detrimental to the health, safety, peace, morals and general welfare of persons residing or working in the neighborhood of such proposed use nor injurious to property and improve- ments in the neighborhood. 3. Application 4-U-77 of THE WESTFIELD COMPANY: USE PERMIT to allow construction of a chemical storage tank facility adjacent to Westfield Building No.3. Said property is located at 10501 Tantau Avenue. First Hearing. The Assistant Planning Director r-evíewed' the' 's:tteplart'whichwas' appfov'ed in 1975. The proposal at this meeting is to seek approval to construct a tank farm. The issues are: relationship of that tank farm with the nearby residences to protect them from noise; and the concern about the type of material to be stored in that tank farm; and the visual impact of the tank farm. The staff feels the noise can be controlled through standard engineering techniques. The materials can be safely stored. A 10 foot screening will minimÍ%e visual impact. Comm. Blaine said she would like a condition speaking to what is stored in these tanks. The Assistant Planning Director said this is the Fire Marshal's responsibility and authority. Comm. Blaine brought up the possibility of in the future, type of chemicals stored in the tanks could be changed. Mr. J. Wucher, 990 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, said he is one of the owners of Westfield Company. DI (deionized) water is stored in one of the tanks. This tank farm will be 38 feet farther from the residences than the existing one. He said they can't have a planter strip entirely around the tank farm because a truck has to be able to get in and service the tanks. They can go around 3/4 of it with plantings. Comm. Adams was concerned about the compressor ~unnlng during work hours with I the onloff cycling and relief valve noise. ! i , , , ! MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING , i Comm. Markkula observed that the objectives are to reduce noise i and visual impact. Recessing this about 6 feet below ground level would accomplish this effectively. Mr. Wucher said they had originally talked about this. He is afraid they could not get the liquid nitrogen out of the bottom of the tank, but he would look into it further with the tenant. Mr. Wucher answered Chairman Koenitzer that he was not aware of any complaints from residents nearby. Comm. Markkula asked if event of an earthquake. techniques available at they had taken any precautions in the Mr. Wucher said they have used the best this time. Mr. Mike Stout, 520 Meadow Avenue, Santa Clara, said Westfield has been a good neighbor thus far. He said compressors come on any time of the day or night. At night a noise seems to be much louder than during the day. He said one of the problems is the truck that delivers the liquid nitrogen has a high whine. He would like to have a pump installed inside. He also thinks security should be considered. He said the back parking lot is a challenge to local teenagers and their cars, etc. Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Adams to close the public hearing. Motion carried, 5-0 Condition 16 was amended as follows: after "submit" and dl!lete "anti a Line. replace with "implement". Line 2, add "a certified" 7, delete It suggest" and Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Adams to recommend to the City Council approval of application 4-U-77, subject to the 14 standard conditions, condition 15, condition 16 as modified, and conditions 17 through 20 in the July 8, 1977 staff report. AYES: NOES: Comm. Adams, Blaine, Gàtto, Markkula, Chairman Koenitzer None Motion carried, 5-0 PC-258 pag e 11 4-U-77 approved PC-258 - Page 12 ll-U-73 Amend. approved MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Findings: The use or uses are in conformance with the general plan and not detrimental to existing uses or to uses specifically permitted in the zone in which the proposed use is to be located. The property involved is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the proposed use. The proposed use will not generate a level of traffic over and beyond that of the capacity of the existing streetc:system. Subfinding: That the controls established will be adequate that no noxious or harmful odors will be emitted and no increase in noise level will be permitted. 4. AMENDMENT OF USE PERMIT ll-U-73 of HEWLETT PACKARD: To allow a transfer of 20,000 sq. ft. of office and industrial space from Phase 2 and 3 of the project into Phase 1. Said property is located at the southeast'corner of the intersection of Homestead Road and Wolfe Road. First Hearing. The Assistant Planning Director reviewed the conditions of the original approval, as detailed in the July 8,1977, staff report. The staff recommendation was to require the applicant to sign a commitment for an assessment district for the street improvements to solve the traffic problems. Comm. Markkula asked if the reason for this amendment is to allow the applicant to build sooner. Mr. Joe Erlich, Architect for the applicant, said the change has occurred because there has been a change in the footprint of the building. He said the staff's recommended conditions are acceptable to Hewlett Packard. He emphasized the fact the applicant is involved in a Yanpooling program and is expanding their flexibility of working hours. This tends to avoid the peak hour trip traffic. Since there were no further comments from the audience, it was moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Adams to close the public hearing. Motion carried, 5-0 !Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Adams to recommend to the City Council approval of the revision to application ll-U-73 with conditions 15 and 17 as in the July 15, 1977 staff m~o, or as amended. AYES: I NOES: ! , I Comm. Adams, Blaine, Gatto, Markkula, Chairman Koenitzer None Motion carried) 5-0 \ MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5. Application 13-U-77 of GAETANO S. DI VITTORIO: USE PER.'!lT to allow use of an existing building as a tailor shop in a P (Planned Development) zone. Said property is located at the northwest corner of the intersection of De Anza Blvd. and Lazaneo Drive. First Hearing. The Assistant Planning Director said the staff has always taken a negative point of view of temporary uses. This particular application involves the uSe of a residential structure. It would somewhat inhibit development of De Anza Blvd. Mr. Gaetano Di Vittorio, 2284 Cervante Way, Campbell, said the reason he would like to have this use permit is because his lease is up now. Within 3 years he would be able to develop this property in the manner in which the City would prefer. He answere Comm. Gatto that he was prepared to conform to the conditions recommended by the staff. Chairman Koenitzer asked for comments from the audience. Mr. William Henderson, real estate broker, said this use conforms with the general plan. This property is too valuable to let it go on more than a temporary use such as is proposed. Mr. Felton E. Valdry, 1660 Eburland Drive, Santa Clara, asked the Planning Commission to deny this application. If he is permitted to purchase this property he is prepared to construct a motel here. Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Blaine to close the public hearing. Motion carried, 5-0 It was noted there are 4 dwelling units on the property at this time. Comm. Gatto believes the market pressure on this property will overcome any temporary business that goes in here. He sees this as a case of a small businessman trying to get ahead. Moved by Comm. Blaine, seconded by Comm. Gatto to recommend to the City Council approval of application 13-U-77 with the 14 standard conditions and conditions 15 through 19 in the July 7,1977. staff memo. AYES: NOES: Comm. Adams, Blaine, Gatto, Markkula, Chairman Koenitzer None Motion carried, 5-0 PC-258 Page 13 13-U-77 approved PC-258 - Page 14 MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Findings: The use or uses are in conformance with the general plan and not detrimental to existing uses or to uses specifically permitted in the zone in which the proposed use is to be located. The proeprty involved is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the proposed use. The proposed use will not generate a level of traffic over and beyond that of the capacity of the existing street system. The proposed use is otherwise not detrimental to the health, safety, peace, morals and general welfare of persons residing or working in the neighborhood of such proposed use nor injurious to property and improve- ments in the neighborhood. Subfinding: While this is a temporary use, it is a valid use for this lot and building and the three-year period is not too long a time to_ wait for development of this property. 6. Application 14-u-77 of STEVE L. STOCKWELL; LYNN A. HETHCOCK: USE PERMIT to allow construction of a skateboard park in a CG (General Commercial) zone. Said property is located adjacent to and westerly of Stelling Road approximately 170 feet southerly of Homestead Road. First Hearing. The Assistant Planner said this request includes an arcade and pro shop as well as a skateboard park. This site includes 100 parking spaces being used by the Valley Church. Residents and property owners of the adjacent properties were notified of this proposal. The site plan was reviewed which indicated a maximum of 4 feet above grade and 10 feet below grade. The staff has explored the possibility of social problems related to this type use. The cities of El Cajon and San Diego were very positive about this type use, as well às the Police Department. Their main concern was one of supervision. The plan shows a 15 foot landscaped setback off Stelling Road, and no landscaping on the northerly property line. The staff would like the Planning Commission to consider relocation of the trash enclosure, and a bike rack should be incorporated into the fenced area. It was noted the applicant is adding 50 parking stalls where there already are 100. The staff feels a reciprocal parking agreement should be encouraged. Colored slides of other skate board parks were displayed on the screen. The staff noted on the slides of the property that the existing and the proposed lighting fixtures in the parking lot are not acceptable. It is hoped the landscaping and lighting improvements will be compatible with the area. MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 1977 P~~NING COMMISSION MEETING The applicants reviewed the colored slides of developed skate board parks. There will be a 6 foot high cyclone fence and a 3 foot high nylon net fencing to protect against flying skate- boards. The customers are required to wear helmets. kneepads, elbow pads, gloves and shoes. It was noted there are speakers mounted on the light fixtures. The applicant said this was in case of an emergency. Comm. Gatto was concerned that the reciprocal parking with the church would be incompatible. The applicant said he has a written agreement from the church allowing them to use 42 parking spaces on Sundays. He said they are not open before noon and close at 6 PM, which will not conflict with the church's schedule. There will be no new curb cuts. Comm. Adams asked what radius the applicant was drawing from. Mr. Stockwell said it is anticipated they will pull in from a radius of 50 miles. He added that a survey indicated the customer will walk, skate or take a bus to this park. Comm. Adams is concerned about skateboard riders going down the street, and not necessarily in the bike lanes. Comm. Blaine was concerned about noise from all the skateboards. Mr. Stockwell said the urethane materials now used in the skate- boards are relatively noiseless. He answered Comm. Blaine the entrance fee will be $2.25 to $2.50 for 2 hours. Mr. Stockwell said that although skateboarding will be included in the 1984 Olympics in Russia, they anticipate their competition will only be local, seating approximately 200. There will be Skateboard ~rshals to supervise at all times. In the summer they will be open from 9 or 10 AM to 10 PM on Monday through Saturday and in the winter from noon to 8 PM, except on Saturday nights when they stay open to 10 PM. Comm. Adams asked the staff if there has been any record of disturbances in the Brunswick parking lot. The staff was not aware of any. Camm. Markkula said in the 1950's and 1960's the trampoline parks were forced out of business because of insurance problems. He wondered if the applicant had considered this aspect. Mr. Stockwell said skateboard parks do $3 million to $5 million in sales; this is past the fad stage. Insurance companies are underwriting. They are totally fenced, to keep out intruders. Marshals will keep out the '~otdoggers" after one warning. Spectators are allowed in the patio area. The perimeter fencing will be cyclone with redwood slates. PC-258 Page 15 PC-258 - Page 16 14-U-77 approved / / MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Mr. Stockwell said he would like a speaker address system on the building for emergency only and two speakers for music for the patio area. He added that it would not be heard outside the park, and it would never be hard rock music. Chairman Koenitzer asked for comments from the audience. Mr. Thomas M. Root, 1722 Horanda, said he is a resident of the apartment complex nearby, and had a few concerns about the proposal. Noise: He does not believe it will be possible to have a speaker system heard in the patio area and not heard at the apartment complex. Traffic: There is a bike path along Stelling Road but no bike paths along Homestead. He believes this proposal could contribute to a significant traffic hazard. Mr. Robert W. Halverson, 1716 Noranda, said there is a significant safety problem in the area now and this proposal will increase the skateboards in this area. 'He is concerned' about potential noise. Since there were no further comments from the audience, it was moved by Comm. Blaine, seconded by Comm. Adams to close the public hearing. Motion carried, 5-0 Comm. Adams would like Condition 26 to be more restrictive in regard to security'. noise and solving of possible social problems. It was decided condition 17 should read: "Outdoor speakers permitted in patio area only shall not be audible outside the park." Moved by Comm. Adams, seconded by Comm. Blaine to approve application 14-U-77 subject to standard conditions 1 through 14 and conditions 15 through 28 in the July 7, 1977 staff report with conditions 17 and 26 modified at this meeting and subject to Exhibits A and B. AYES: NOES: Comm. Adams, Blaine, Gatto, Markkula, Chairman Koenitzer None Motion carried, 5-0 The audience was informed that an appeal to this decision should be addressed to the City Council in writing within 5 days. - , .. ~ITXUTES OF THE Jt:LY 11, J ~lïï l'J..\\'~:I:~G Cœ·f}HSSION ~ŒETING PC-258 Page 17 Fil1c1in~s: The us,", or IIses are in conformHllce wlth the general plan anù not detr i'lental to exisÇing uses or to uses specifically permitted in the zone in which çhe proposed use is to be located. The property involved is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the proposed use. The proposed USe will not generate a level of traffic over and beyond that of the capacity of the existing street system. The proposed USe is otherwise not detrimental to the safety, peace, morals and general welfare of persons working in the neighborhood of such proposed use not property and improvements in the neighborhood. health. residing or inj uri94s -t.o ' . . -. .. .~i .:....,:_, NEW BUSINESS Chairman Koenitzer asked the Commissioners to consider any questions he should bring up at the Mayor's Luncheon to be held the following Thursday. Théy could call these questions to his attention at the July 13th meeting. ADJOURNMENT Chairman Koenitzer adjourned this meeting at 1:15 AM to 7:30 PM, Wednesday, July 13,1977. APPROVED: ATTEST: Wm. E.