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CITY OF CUPERTI?i0, ST.a'PE QF ~4i,IFOR~'IA PC-280
~ 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupe:tino, CA 95014 PaRe 1
Telephane: 252-4505
*fINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COM3ISSI021,
HELD ON APRIL 24, 1978, IN THE COUNCII. CHAPffi~E
CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
Ch. Blaine called the meeting to order at 7:38 P*! with CHe
Saluce to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Co~. present: Adams, Claudy, Ch. Blaine
Co~. absent: Gatto, Koenitzer
Staff present: Director of Planning and Development Sisk
Assistant Planning Director Cowan
_ Assistant City Attorney Kilian
Assistant City Engineer WhiCien
Associate Planner Piasecki
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
None.
POSTPONEPSE[JTS
Ptoved by Cocmi. Adaas, seconded by Co~. Claudy - per the request
of the staff, to continue Item O4 - Grading Ordinance to May 22,
1978.
Motion carried, 3-0
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIOL7S
None.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
- None.
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PC-280 MINUTES OF THE APRiL 24, i978 PLANNING COMMISSION "LETI^;!=
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~ PUBLIC HEARINGS
I 1: LITY OF CUPIItTINO: Public Hearing to consider a comprehensive
azpendment to the General Plan. First Hearing continued.
T~e Asai~stant Planning Director stated this was the fifth in a series
of public hearings to consider an amendment to the General Plan. He
~ then reviewed the first draft of three of the Elem~nts of the General
~ Plany and staff report with attact~ents containing the staff's recom-
i mendations regarding land use.for Housing, Commercial, Flood Plain
and the Hillsides. He said the Seismic Safety Element, Noise Flement,
~ Publie'Safety Elrment, Housing Element,.Circulation/Opm Space/Recreation
j Elem~x~ts will be amended.
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i The ~ssistant Planning Director said the following determinations have
been mada.: There will be a Regional Shopping Center at Vallco Park
wiih Industrisl Node, Hotel, and High-Rise Office Structures.aad the
"Gali Gornez" will be developed ia an "identifiable fashion".
At this public hearing they were prepared to discuss some key properties
in the Downtow Core area. He then described the 1990 Build Out
illustration on the bulletin board. They wanted to explore the implications
of 10 to 20 dwelling units per acre, 15 to 25 units per acre and 25 to 30
units per acre,
The Assistant Planning Director stated the City has determined it
wants to increase the housing opportunity within the City of Cupertino;
howeuer, it is nat attempting to reach a jobs/housing balance.
In terms of conmmunity character, the City is interested in breaking
the stzip commercial stigma. We are looking for community identity.
In the future,. there will be a proposal for residential along Stevens
Creek Blvd. at Randy Lane. The staff asked the Planning Commission
for concurrence ia the change of industrial to residential zoning.
Toby Rrame= and,Su~ Hastings, on the Planning Staff, have been zesearch-
ing optiona open to the City.
At this time,~Ch: Slsine introduced the Planning Co~ission's newest
Member, Mr. John Claudy. Coa~: Claudy stated he had read all the material
and heard all the tapes available on this subject and was prepared to
proceed with the rest of the Co~ission w3th, perhans a few questions
that may be redundant to the rest of the Co~ission. This was no problem.
Co~. Adams said the planning process periodically reviews the City's
plans and objectives. We are always going to have the coffinute problem.
Although ve are atte~pting to develop a housing balance it is going to
be extremely difficult. He would like the City Council to review what
other cities are doing in this area. Further, it was his opinion that
ehe industrial and the co~nercial should be separated to help reduce
the co~ute situation.
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Ch.Blaine suggested looking at some of the school sites at the
same time, particularly at the ones being closed this and next
year. Perhaps an underlying zone could be placed on school
sites. The Assistant Planning Director said the City has bem
considering this, but it is his understanding that the School
Districts do not plan to sell any of their property:
Ch. Blaine asked the staff to prepare definitions for "Cupertin
Area" and "Market Area",
Co~. Adams said the neighborhoods would have to be Caken into
accwnt before breaking up the co~ercial. He would 1tl~b to
consider s~e high densitq housing along De Anza Blvd, althoagh
down at the Homestead Road area it could change the"character
of the neighborhood. He wauld like to explore the feasibilitq
of residential in-filling where commercial was originally
planned, taking into consideration the character of the neigh-
borhood. •
Comm_ Claudy said his general thinking that you can i.ntegrate
housing and comuercial if enough thought is given to it. He
would hate to see the typical pattern, with walls along the
major streets.
Ch. Blaine said she could visualize residential on all-the site.
proposed. She agreed that care must be taken so that intrusion
into esisting residential is minimized. In responee to her
request for a show of hands, it is recorded that five persons
in the audience had come to this meeting to speak to this item
on the agenda.. • ~ ~
Co~. Claudy stated he would prefer not 'to make a'decision at
this meeting.
The Assistant City Attorney said it was £he C3ty Attorney's
opinion that it is quite proper co caice iield trips to study
the matter. - '
The Planning Co~ission decided to have co~eats in general on
the concepts proposed rather than specifics at this point.
Mr. Tom Severen, Wheaton Drive, said that in general, their
concerns are the same. He would like to see single-family
dwelling units at Stevens Creek Blvd. and De Anza Blvd. His
prime concern is the density. He believes the City's respon-
sibility is first to the existing developments.
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Ms. Dorothy Hillman stated her property is a[ the corner of Blaney
and Price Avenues. She is interested in what is going to happen
to the properties around her.
Mrs. Hillman said she is surrounded by apartments and duplexes and on
her half acre the trees are getting old. She would welcome high
density zoning.
Mr. Gary 13anson stated he represented property owners in zone E.
He wuld like to know the time frame involved here so they could
discuss the matter of zoning. Ch. Blaine said it will come up
agaih the 4th Monday in May. He should call City Hall to reconfirm.
A gen[leman from the firm of Cornish and Carey stated he represen[ed
one of the land owners in area E. Ae submitted a portfolio to each
Member of the Planning Cp~ission and 2 for the staff. He said it
goes hack to 1968, when it was divided inio four lots. A final map
was not filed with the County. In 1969 it was once again approved.
The praperty is presently zoned co~ercial. They want [o move their
professional office to this 3000 sq. ft. site. They welcome resi-
dential on the remainder of the property as long as it blends in
- with the .area.
Mr. Martin Hall, representing Martin Hall Associates, said his plans
call for underground parking for the 4-story condominiums with
exterior fountains and lots of landscaping. He is interested in
area E. Ae feels the entire piece is necessary for his development.
If the co~ercial is allowed on a portion of it, he feels it should
be along the frontage. He described a similar development in La Jolla.
Mr. John Sobrata, of Sobrato-Berg Properties, wanted to discuss 6
acres at Mariani'Avenue and De Anza Blvd. Ais understanding is the
property i~s not ainder any moratorium at the present time. He said
he was told 1t would be reviewed. The Director of Planning and
' Developmeat was:aot sure what the Planning Co~ission or City Council
would allow thezes ~The staff recommendation would be 15-25 units
per acre. Mr. Sobrato said that since they own the pzoperty sur-
rounding this and they originally envisioned this as light industrial,
it is their feeling that any residential would have to have the
typical 8` to 9' high fence in order to mitigate the probelms
associated with tank farms, loading areas, noise, etc. This 4-acre
parcel is not going to solve Cupertino`s housing problem.
Dr. Joe Srown, 20985 Peppertree Lane, Cupertino, said his property
along De Anza Blvd. was approved for co~ercial/industrial in 1972.
Then a 2.5 year moratorium was placed on the land. Then another plan
with restrictions was placed on the property. Then another indus[rial
complex went through City Aall. Then the City put the only "alley"
in town through here. Now they want to throw out those plans and
put in housing.
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Dr. Brown said he thinks that if he came to the City with a
proposal for housing that the staff might pzopose this land be
used for a marsh for migrating birds. He does not think Cupertin
is going to solve the housing problems for Santa Clara County.
He does not want to see that land turned into an "instant slimm";
we already have that nearby. He said the School DisLrict has
studied this sort of thing and it takes abaut ZO years for these
apartments to turn into slums. This does not happen with high
class, high rise apartments of good construction. He:thinlcs the
suggestion of condominiums is one step backwardz. Az does npt
think Cupertino should respond to this fad of co~mune-type
living. High class apartments lend themselves to a atable.
co~unity .
Toby Kramer, discussing a below market housing price, said that
in reviewing the Goals Co~ittee Report, they found a tot of the
objectives contained many of the same objectives the stsff has
been talking about. The staff has attempted to implement these,
goals. She said there has to be a way of making the new housing
compatible with the existing housing. The units would have to be
regulated on an ongoing program; otherwise, when a person sells
he will be making an exhorbitant profit on 3[. Aftertwo years of
- continuous ownership, the owner could be released from Lhe resale
restrictions. They are thinking in terms of lOx on 10 units or
more.
Comm. Claudy asked Mrs. Kramer her estimate belw market value
that this would operate on. Mrs. Kramer said she does not have
this information as yet. Trade-offs would be.nffered to the
developers. Palo Alto has had good success wittu this lOX figuie.
The City purchases the land and sells it to_the developer.
Ch. Blaine asked what happens vith the homeowne~zfees in these
situations. Sue Hastings said ~:urrently, the,~omeowner fees
are pa3d by the homeowner. They are z`.in~n~y of including these
fees in the pr3ce of the home.
Mrs. Rramer answered Comm. Adams that Palo Alto has this "lOS
concept" scattered [hroughout Palo Alto.
Co~. Caludy recommended that at the end of the 20 years, the
homeowner should get limited right of return on the investment.
Comm. Adams suggested 99 years and that the City would have
first right of refusal.
?frs. Rramer answered Ch. Blaine that there would be ful.l, assess-
ment on the property.
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Dr. Joe Brown said he never thought it would come to this. There
is nothing new about rent control...and we all know wha[ happened
there. The idea of penalizing a new developer to protect the
under priviledged is not his idea of justice.
Co~. Adams said he thinks it is a good idea to provide houses
"acroes the board". He would like to know more about how other
cities are handling this. He wonders how u~any developers are
willing to go into this type of program.....is it just the big
developers?
~ Ms. Hastiags suggested arranging for Sylvia Semans from Palo Alto
- to come and talk about the practicalities of this approach.
The Co~issioners decided that more input was needed before a
decision could be made on such an important issue.
Moved by Comm. Adams, seconded by Co~. Claudy, to continue this
public hearing until May 22, 1978.
~ PSo[ion carried, 3-0
Ch. Blaine called a recess at 9:50 PM. The meeting reconvened at
10:O5~PM.
2. CITY OF CUPERTINO: Public hearing to consider an ordinance
regulating hillside residential development including buildiag
setbacka and height, fence locations, permitted uses and
vegetation removal. First hearing continued.
The Director of Plabning and Development reviewed second draft of
the Hillside Subdivision Ordinance and third draft of the Hillside
~ Zoning Ordinance with suggested changes shown in italics. All
property owners within Regnart Canyon and Inspiration Heights have
been notified of this review. Written comments from interested
persons were entered into the record at this time.
The Planning Co~ission reviewed the Zoning Ordinance, page by page.
On page 1, the Director was asked to check what exceptions there are
in Section 3 to the County Non-Conforming Ordinance. Ch. Blaine also
felt that on page 4, [here should be a mandatory soil investigation
as a part of the site development plan.
Cot~. Adams suggested czoss-referencing Section 4.19 and Section II
on page 15.
The Assistant City Attorney called attention to the rewording on
page 6, per the City Attorney.
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There was furthez discussion on the mattet of the keeping of ~
animals. Ch. Slaine does not want animals on property annexed
co the City, that are not creating a problem to other residenr.s
in the City, to be prohibited.
Co~. Claudy, in an intent to try to clarify this ordinance, it
suggests grandfathering-in both the specific animals and the
number of animals.....He was not sure he liked that intent.
The Assistant City Attorney clarified that 2 issues are being'
discussed here: zoning and health hazards. As to nonconforming
use situations, there could be an abatement situation within
a reasonable length of time. The County Aealth Depaztment could
take care of the health hazard situation.
Page 10, Section 9.5 - Co~. Claudy asked if the rear yard set-
back should have the taulti-story factor included. The Director
said it is now 20' for 2-stary. •
Section 9.6 should be "4" instead of "2".
Comm. Claudy does not agree with the philosophy regarding fenc-
ing in Section 9.7, starting on page 10. He would prefer to
- see more restrictions on smaller lots. He would prefei to see
a sliding scale. The sta£f will work on this section.
Page 11 "shall" rather than "may". There were 2 minor change
on page 12. Further work has to be done on page 14. Section ,
10.5 a and b have to be clarified.
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Ch. Blaine wants a new section added: "Standards of Approval"
that gives the sequence of events that must,..happen when hillside
property is going to be developed.
Mr. Louis Paviso, San Juan Road, wanted to~xnow if his and his
ueiKnbors` properties are involved in this~. The Director ex-
plained that at this meeting, an ordinance is being drafted for
all properties over 10% slope. Once the ordinance is enac[ed,
it will be attached to lands in the hills that are proposed to
be developed. Mr. Paviso pointed out a discrepancy whereas the
ordinance requires 50' on one page and 70' on another.
Mr. Paviso said he would like very much to see a map at this
time. Maps were on the bulletin board.
PSr. Henry Severen, 22570 San Juan Road (Inspiration Heights)
said he and his neighbors have never seen a copy of this nor
heard anything about it until Mr, Paviso advised them. The
Director said notices were sent to everyone livin~ on the upside
of San Juan Road. PIo[ice was not sent to *tr. Severen and the
people he referred to because the staff felt it did not apply
to them since their property is already developed.
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Mrs. Nancy Hertert, San Suan Road, asked if, when property is developed
and 2 covered and 2 uncovered, functional parking spaces are required,
whether or not they must remain as such and not be created into rooms.
The Director answered that a building permit is required for conversions
or enclosures of a portion of the garage.
Moved by Co~. Adams, seconded by Comm. Claudy to request another
draft of this ordinance and to continue the public hearing to
May 22, 1978.
Motion carried, 3-0
The Director of Planning and Development said Mr. Dick Childress' written
co~ents will be included with the ne~ct draft of the Hillside Subdivision
Ordinance.
0'Patti Brisco, Russelhurst, said she is very pleased to see the City
will be reconsidering the Stevens Creek Blvd.and Hillcrest area. She
said what these people are trying to say is, even though their property
is developed now, they may in the future consider subdividing their
property or change theiz fence or make additions to their homes, etc.
3. CITY OF CUPERTINO: Public Hearing to amend Sections 18.16.260
through 18.16.310 of the Municipal Code relating to the regulation
of Hillside Subdivisions. First Hearing continued.
The Director of Planning and Development reviewed the second draft of
these sections, per the April 20, 1978 staff inemo.
The Aesistant City Engineer said he reviewed this again, since the
staff report was prepared and found, in regard to urban fringe and
semi rural, we have two different definitions for the same type of
roadway. This should be clarified. (Pages 4 and 5- collector streets)
Also, some rewriting is necessary on page~ S and 'o.
Coffi. Claudy had minor corrections/suggestions for pages 1 through 9.
Ch. Blaine asked for co~ents from the audience. The Director of
Planning and Development entered Mr. Dick Childress' statements into
the record. There were no further co~ents from the audience.
*foved by Co~. Ad~s, seconded by Co~, Claudy, to continue this
public hearing to May 22, 1978.
Motion carried, 3-0
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Point of Order: Mr. Paviso asked why the first hearing is
always continued rather than close the first hearing and then
go on to a second, or third hearing. Ch. Blaine said this is
just a conticruation of the same public hearin~.
4. CITY OF CUPERTIlQO: Public Hearing to consider amendmeat of
Ordinance 214(a) pertaining to excavations, grading and
retaining walls. POSTPONID TO MAY 22, 1978.
5. CITY OF CUPEBTZNO: Public Hearing to consider an ordinance
regulating the conversion of multi-family residences to
~ single~wner housing units. First Hearing continued.
Aasaciate Planaer Piasecki reviewed the second draft of this `
ordinance. It is consistmt vith the Housing Elemmt of the
General Plan. A hand~ut was distributed in regard to recent
State Legislation in regard to condominium conversion. He
suggested thia matter be continued for three months so that it
will go to the City Council along with the Housing Element.
Ch. Blaine asked if "fire vall" has been included. The staff
will check on it.
Ch. Blaine asked for co~ents from the audience. The question
of definitions vas raised by a m~ber of the audimce.
Ms. Janet Owen, Mid Peninsula Citizens for Fair Housing, repre-
sentative, said they feel this ordinance is a step in the right
direction. However, she brought up several points to be review
Section 3.1A, Section 6.6. Childrea should be allowed. There
should be wide doorways for wheelchairs, easy access to public
transportation. In regard to replacement housing, it should
include something to the effect that it should not exceed 25X
of income or not to exceed rent being paid for aoartment to be
converted, whichever is higher. They object to 355. The
co~uze time to work should be included, as well as the impact
on schools. In regard to the November 26th draft, they ea-
courage the City to have first right of refusal on the sale of
these units. She left a copy of her presentation with the staff
Ch. Blaine asked the ataff to addresa families with children in
the conversion ordinance.
The Assistant City Attorney said equal housing wording is
covered in the Relo~ation Act.
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Ch. Blaine asked for co~ents from the audience. There vere
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The Associate Planner suggested including: "Replacement housing
auitable to the specific needs of the residences being replaced....
special needs to be considered."
Moved by Camm. Adams, seconded by Comm. Claudy, to close the public
hearing and to take this item off the calendar to be looked at
after 3 months.
Motion carried, 3-0
WFINISHED BUSINESS
6. Stevens Creek Blvd. Plan Line: Street cross-section designs for
interim improve~ente for Stevens Creek Blvd, between Orange Avenue
and Bubb Road.
The Assistant Planning Director recapped that the Planning Commission
essentially approved the S[evens Creek Blvd. Plan Line 2 phasea -
land use plan and Stevens Creek Blvd. Smprov~eats including short
term implementation, definition of future needs, and acquisition of
right-of-way for 4 lanes but not necessarily improvement of all 4 lanes
at the present time. The City Council has aske.d the Planning Commission
to consider deletion of all material in regard to implementation.
In the section between Bubb Road, on the east side and Orange Avenue
on the west, the City will require full improvements, paved and striped,
for 2 lanes.
In regard to the railroad crossing improvements, the City Council has
approved this and it has been budgeted and is pretty,much under way.
It is very close to the intersection and transition fram 2 lanes to
4 lanes is very difficult. Ae said that unless the Planning Commission
wants to take the position of asking that these improvements be stopped,
it 3s important to define a"hard edge".
Discussion iollowed, What kind and degree of impr^••_ments should be
spelled out here. A time frame should be worked out.
Co~. Claudy recapped the proceedings, public hearings, staff reports,
etc., on thie subject. He asked if it will be actively sought or jus[
be planned for whenever development occurs.
Ch. Blaine would like some bike lanes striped in. The Assistant
Planning Directoz said the bike lanes would terminate at Orange Avenue
and since the lanes will be 19' wide, there will be no problem for ~
bicycles competing with cars. The Assistant City Engineer said [hat
legally, bicycles have the right to use streets anyway.
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Co~. Claudy was concerned that 19' wide lane would encourage
passing on the right side. The Assistant City Engineer said thi
is happening now, anyway, ,
Ch. Blaine noted that Orange Avenue goes to the high school.
She believes extension of Freeway l/85 underneath Stevens Creek
Blvd, would be a big help here.
Moved by Comm. Adams, seconded by Co~, Claudy to forward to
the City Council this Policy document with amendments as
suggested by staff.
Motion carried, 3-0
:VEW BUSINESS: None
REPORT OF PLANNING COMMISSION: None
REPORT OF PLANNING DIRECTOR: None
ADJOURNME!VT
Ch. Blaine adjourned this meeting at 11:40 PM to 7:30 PM on
May 22, 1978.
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