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~~E REGULL~ MEETING OF THE PLANNING
HELD ON MARCH 28, 1994
COMMISSION MEETING
ORDER OF BUSINESS
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
ROLL CALL
Chr. Mahoney
Vice Chr. Doyle
Com. Austin
Com. Roberts
Com. Harris
commissioners Present:
staff Present:
Robert Cowan, Director of community
Development
Thomas Robillard, Planner II
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION:
SECOND:
VOTE:
ABSTAIN:
Com. Austin moved to approve the minutes of March 14,
1994, as presented
Com. Doyle
Passed 4-0-1
Chr. Mahoney
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
- No Discussion
POSTPONEMENTS/REMOVALS FROM CALENDAR
Item 2:
Application I-GPA-94 and 3-EA-94: Consideration of
amendments to the Housing Element of the General Plan.
Planning Director Cowan stated there may be the possibility of a
field trip the week of April 25th and the Planning commission
should continue this item to April II, 1994 and make a decision at
that time.
MOTION:
SECOND:
VOTE:
Com. Harris moved to continue item 2 to the meeting of
April 11, 1994
Com. Roberts
Passed 5-0
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
- None
CONSENT CALENDAR
- None
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. Application No(s): 81,150 and l6-EA-93
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Applicant:
Location:
city of Cupertino
citywide
An ordinance amending Chapter 19.96, Parking and Keeping
Vehicles in various Zones and Chapter 11.29, On-site Parking,
of the Cupertino Municipal Code.
Staff Presentation: Planner Robillard presented the staff report
dated March 28, 1994. He stated, upon further discussion with the
Ci ty Attorney on issues raised by Commissioners at the last
hearing, staff determined that there are two approaches to
eliminate non-conforming vehicles:
l. Uses of land or buildings made non-conforming by amendments to
Chapter 19.96 must either be grandfathered or amortized over
the useful life of the use.
2. Those uses made illegal by an amendment to Chapter 11.29,
which is not a zoning code, but is related to health and
safety issues, can be remedied immediately. This may
eliminate the need for amortizing.
Planner Robillard reviewed the changes to chapters 11.29 and 19.96
recommended by staff as outlined in the staff report. He stated if
the Planning commission reach a consensus on the proposed
amendments, staff recommends that this item be continued for two
weeks for preparation of the final language by the city Attorney.
Com. Harris asked what happens with vehicles over 30 ft. and
questioned circular driveways?
Planner Robillard stated vehicles over 30 ft. must be parked in a
side or rear yard or in a storage facility off-site. He reviewed
the circular driveway situation and noted that a vehicle can park
parallel to the street, but not within the 15 ft setback. He also
noted that the same rules are used for corner lots, vehicles must
park perpendicular to the side property line.
Com. Mahoney suggested adding additional language to (f) in the
staff report to address circular driveways.
Planner Robillard reviewed the survey done by staff, noting they
looked at approximately l500 homes in four different areas of the
city and came across about eight situations in which a vehicle was
parked parallel to the street. He stated most did not meet the
current ordinance.
Com. Roberts addressed (I) in the staff report and asked if
"occupant" implies a person who resides at this home is the primary
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resident? He also asked how many vehicles are over 30 ft?
Planner Robillard stated that the "occupant" is the primary
resident and during staff's survey approximately three vehicles
were over 30 ft. He noted several cities have similar rules as to
what is proposed.
The public hearing was opened.
Mr. David Langlais, l0672 Deep Cliffe Dr., stated he is in support
of the proposed changes to the ordinance. He addressed the
situation on st. Andrews and stated it is not in the best interest
of the neighborhood as a whole to have this vehicle parked as it
is. He stated the ordinance proposed is not much different from
other cities and urged the Planning Commission to approve the
proposed changes.
Mr. Dick Modlin, st. Andrews Ave., stated he owns the motorhome
that has brought about this ordinance change. He believes the
Commission is changing a policy because of a single incident and
stated the policy will not be enforced equally throughout the City,
but only through complaints. He stated a single incident policy is
a bad policy. Mr. Modlin quoted from the Neighbor regarding play
houses and noted this is a similar situation. He stated there are
no health and safety issues, but just a loop hole that staff needs
to address. He added this is an aesthetics issue. Mr. Modlin
asked if a 30 ft. motorhome is acceptable why does anything over
this become a health and safety problem? Regarding his situation,
Mr. Modlin stated he contacted staff and did everything legally,
but due to a misunderstanding he poured more concrete than allowed.
He noted he contacted staff and was told to leave it until a
decision was made by the Planning commission. Mr. Modlin addressed
the letter from Mr. Erlewin R. Gilbert, dated March 17, 1994,
noting The Good Sam Club is not in total support of the amendments
proposed. He addressed (I) as written in the staff report and
noted if he owns a vacant piece of property he should be allowed to
park his vehicle on this. He urged the Planning commission to
leave the law as it is as it is a one issue matter.
Planning Director Cowan stated the driving force behind this change
in the ordinance was a conflict, he stated it was necessary to
rectify an inconsistency and this is the purpose of this hearing.
Ms. JoAnn Olah, 879 Brent Dr., stated the purpose of the ordinance
is to address unsightly vehicles and asked what this really means?
She questioned the J ft. clearance between the vehicle and a
structure and also the 72 hour limitation.
Mr. George Mousakai, 20570 Sunrise Dr., stated he has owned a
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motorhome for approximately seven years and parks it perpendicular
on his property. He stated there should be no restrictions about
living in the motorhome if parked on one's property, as long as the
individual owns the property and has the means to park within the
law. He added size should not be a consideration and believes the
changes proposed are the result of one incident.
In response to Com. Roberts' question regarding size, Mr. Mousakai
stated it is common to have an RV over 30 ft. Mr. Mousakai stated
that people should only live in the motorhome for emergencies and
for a limited period of time.
Mr. George Guittard, 22434 st. Andrews Ave., stated when he looks
out his front window his view is an unsightly motorhome. He
believes the parking of the motorhome on st. Andrews is a
detriment to property values.
Ms. Ann Hart, 22432 st. Andrews Ave., expressed concern about
property values as a result of the motorhome in question. She
believes the character of the neighborhood is being negatively
affected.
Mr. Greg Beall, 22437 st. Andrews Ave., stated the issue is to
maintain residential neighborhoods and close a loop hole in the
ordinance. He stated he is very concerned about the unsightly look
of the motorhome parked on st. Andrews Ave. He noted both the
motorhome and concrete pad are detrimental to the neighborhood and
believes this is about balance and what staff proposed is
acceptable. Mr. Beall stated allowing the parking of motorhomes is
like putting a permanent structure within the front setback. He
added he strongly supports the amendments proposed by staff.
Mr. Herbert Schmidt, 22420 st. Andrews Ave., stated he would
encourage the amendments in order to maintain property values. He
suggested amortizing for five years.
Ms. Georgia Colley, 22379 st. Andrews Ave., believes that the
motorhomes and concrete pad on st. Andrews Ave. are detrimental to
property values and large vehicles such as this should be stored
elsewhere.
Ms. Lydia Beall, representing Molly Brinkworth, st. Andrews Ave.,
stated Ms. Brinkworth owned an RV for many years and parked it off-
site, so it would not affect neighbors. Ms. Beall stated not one
individual who spoke at this hearing will be affected by the
proposed amendments. She noted large vehicles are o.k. as long as
they are parked perpendicular. She stated owners of motorhomes
must have consideration for the neighborhood.
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Mr. George McAuliff, 10554 Lonna Ln.,
amendments are the result of one complaint.
driveways and noted the City is taking
rights.
believes the
He addressed
away peoples
proposed
circular
property
Mr. Lou Sascik, Bonny Dr., asked what the rationale is behind the
30 ft. limitation? He noted most vehicles are 30 ft. or more and
33 ft. would be an average size.
Ms. Olah questioned the time frame in which one would be allowed to
maintain their motorhome on their property? She also noted there
is an increase in insurance if the RV is parked off-site.
Chr. Mahoney addressed Ms. Olah's question regarding time frame, he
noted if this is treated as a zoning amendment it is not an issue.
Mr. Dave Langlais stated the purpose of the ordinance is to
regulate unsightly vehicles and this is an aesthetics issue. He
stated all cities have rules and regulations and the residents must
live by these. He stated there should be no limit on size if the
vehicle is parked perpendicular.
Chr. Mahoney closed the public hearing.
Com. Austin stated perpendicular parking is acceptable and would
support no limitation on size. She noted ordinances are born
because of complaints and spoke in favor of staff's recommendation
and eliminate vehicle length.
Com. Doyle asked if there was no size definition, would all
vehicles have to park perpendicular? He also questioned the
development plan exception as stated in section (h).
Planner Robillard stated the proposed wording includes all
vehicles. He stated an exception would be in the case of a PUD
were RV parking was planned into the site before development.
Planning Director Cowan stated the question is, do the Commission
want to create an exception process?
Com. Doyle continued his comments and noted (g) would not be
necessary as long as vehicles were parked perpendicular.
Com. Roberts believes the City does have grounds to regulate the
parking of oversize vehicles and spoke in support of the ordinance
as proposed. Regarding vehicle length, Com. Roberts stated 30 ft.
may be too limiting, but they should define a length.
Com. Harris stated it is the Planning commission's job to define
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aesthetics for the community and noted this policy was written to
regulate oversize vehicles. She spoke in favor of staff / s
recommendations and noted there should not be an exception process.
Com. Harris stated all vehicles of this type should be parked
perpendicular as opposed to parallel parking. She noted circular
driveway parking for large vehicles should be eliminated and spoke
in favor of the ordinance with some vehicle length limitation.
Chr. Mahoney stated it is within the city/s power to regulate
oversize vehicle parking. He spoke in support of the proposed
amendments with the exception of (g) and stated this should be
eliminated.
There was a majority consensus to eliminate (g) regarding vehicle
length. There was also a consensus to direct staff to discuss
section (h) with the city Attorney regarding an exception process.
Com. Harris stated it is not her intent
from parking on a circular driveway. She
refer to trailers, campers, motorhomes,
to restrict all vehicles
noted section (h) should
etc.
Chr. Mahoney re-opened the public hearing.
MOTION:
Com. Harris moved to continue 81,150 and l6-EA-93 to the
meeting of April 11, 1994.
Com. Doyle
Passed 5-0
SECOND:
VOTE:
NEW BUSINESS
3. Schedule possible Planning commission and City Council field
trip related to appeal of 11-EXC-93 and 3-TM-92
(Modification).
Planning Director Cowan stated a field trip has been planned for
May 23, 1994 and the Commission should meet at City Hall at 6 p.m.
He stated a regular Planning commission meeting will follow.
REPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
- None
REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
- None
DISCUSSION OF NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS
- None
ADJOURNMENT:
Having concluded business the Planning Commission
adjourned the meeting at 8:20 p.m. to the next