PC 07-25-94
CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Ave.
Cupertino, CA 95014
(408) 777-3308
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
HELD ON JULY 25, 1994
ORDER OF BUSINESS
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present:
Chr. Mahoney
Com. Harris
Com. Austin
Com. Roberts
staff Present:
Robert Cowan, Director or Community Development
ciddy Wordell, city Planner
APPROVAL OF MINIJTES
Com. Austin amended the minutes of July ll, 1994 as follows:
1. Page 11, 2nd paragraph, add the words "in order to keep the
number of lots to three" after the word "improvements".
2. Page 21, item ll, "Com. Austin..... should read "Com.
Harris.....
SECOND:
VOTE:
ABSENT:
Com. Austin moved to approve the minutes of June 27, 1994
as submitted.
Com. Harris
Passed 4-0-l
Com. Doyle
MOTION:
MOTION:
Com. Harris moved to approve the minutes of July 11,
1994, as amended
Com. Roberts
Passed 4-0-1
Com. Doyle
SECOND:
VOTE:
ABSENT:
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None
POSTPONEMENTSjREMOVALS FROM CALENDAR - None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
CONSENT CALENDAR - None
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Ju~y 25, 1994
Page 2
PUBLIC HEARING
1.
Application No(s):
Applicant:
Location:
81,160 and l7-EA-94: Newsrack Ordinance
City of Cupertino
Citywide
Ordinance to amend Chapter lO.2l, regarding newsracks
Staff Presentation: City Planner Wordell stated these amendments
were initiated by the City Attorney to clarify existing regulations
and to make them more enforceable. She briefly reviewed the
changes to the ordinance, as outlined in the staff report.
Com. Harris asked several questions regarding the changes and the
following is a summary of the questions and answers:
section 10.21.020 Permit required - Ms. Wordell stated permits are
received from the City Manager's office.
section 10.21.040 Issuance of Permit - Com. Harris stated this does
not give the city the right to limit the number of newsracks. Ms.
Wordell stated it is her understanding that the number cannot be
limited.
section 10.21.080 Dangerous newsracks - Com. Harris asked what are
the penalties if section 10.21.070 is violated? She believes that
section 070 needs enforcement.
Ms. Wordell stated the resolution can include this concern when it
goes before the Council. Com. Harris suggested adding the words
"section 10.21. 070" after the words "section 10.21. 040" in section
10.21.080, this covers enforcement for both sections.
section 10.21.070 Display of certain material prohibited - Com.
Harris addressed (A), and ask could they add the word "otherwise"
as opposed to "perverted"? wi th regards to the 15 days, as
addressed in this section, Com. Harris believes this is too long.
She suggested either 5 business days or 7 calendar days.
Com. Austin concurred that 15 days is too long.
suggested sending a minute order to council, leaving
let the city Attorney decide on the number of days.
Mr. Cowan
this open and
section 10.21.080 Dangerous Newsrack - Com. Harris addressed (B)
and stated the $5 to retrieve the newsrack is not adequate. She
suggested, at least the cost to recover staff's time and suggested
$50.
Section lO.21.070 (B)
Ms. Wordell stated it was the city
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Attorney's intent to simplify how this section was described and
not to change the requirement. Com. Harris suggested putting back
in the language regarding nudity, as stated in the original item
regarding this issue.
Chr. Mahoney opened the public hearing.
Chr. Mahoney closed the public hearing.
Chr. Mahoney stated there are four issues:
1. section 10.21.080 Dangerous newsracks - should cover overall
enforcement (4-0)
2. Section lO.2l.080 - 15 days to remove newsrack.
Com. Roberts stated he was not aware there was a problem in
Cupertino and unless this is the case he would prefer more lenient
proceeding. He would support the 15 days. Chr. Mahoney concurred.
3. section 10.21.080 - $5 to retrieve newsrack.
Mr. Cowan suggested wording to the effect that the cost will
reimburse the community for the direct costs. (4-0)
4. section 10.21.070 (A) - Chr. Mahoney stated the wording has
been changed.
Com. Harris reiterated that she would like to see the language
regarding nudity in either A or B. Ms. Wordell stated the city
Attorney was simplifying this section.
Chr. Mahoney stated the original language covers nUdity and the new
language does not. He stated he would support A, B & C of the
original language. Com. Harris stated this still does not cover
the issue of nudity.
Com. Austin spoke in support of the ordinance as presented by staff
and would make the amendments regarding the reimbursement of the
cost of processing and the 15 days being amended.
Com. Harris suggested that staff talk
the Planning commission's concerns
Planning commission.
to legal counsel and address
and bring it back to the
Com. Roberts believes that staff and legal counsel has worked on
this ordinance and would be ready to vote at this time.
Chr. Mahoney stated this is an attempt to streamline this ordinance
and he would like to continue at this time for clarification.
PLANNING
July 25,
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COMMISSION MINUTES
1994
SECOND:
VOTE:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Com. Harris moved to continue this item to August 8,
1994, with the purpose of determining the number of days,
the number of dollars and clarification of section
10.21.070, as discussed by the Commissioners.
Com. Roberts
Passed 3-1-1
Com. Austin
Com. Doyle
MOTION:
OLD BUSINESS
2. Streamlining Planning commission Meetings
Staff Presentation: Planning Director Cowan presented the staff
report noting at the July 11th meeting the Commission discussed
streamlining Planning commission meetings. He stated if the
commission has a long agenda with a cut-off time for 11 p.m. there
has been a tradition that they meet the same week to hear the rest
of the agenda. He stated staff recommends that the Planning
commission adopt the Minute Order Resolution which will then go
before the Council. Mr. Cowan stated he will put a time budget on
the commissioners agendas.
Com. Harris suggested eliminating the last sentence of item 3.
Mr. Cowan stated staff is suggesting that public initiated
applications can be continued. He stated private applications
should be kept on schedule.
Com. Roberts stated Commissioners have schedules and cannot be
assured that they can attend a subsequent meeting the same week as
the regular meeting.
Mr. Cowan stated if there is a long agenda, non essential items can
be continued. He stated they should try to expedite the review
process for private development.
Com. Roberts addressed continued items, and noted part of the
overload comes from applications that have to be continued. He
stated the city Attorney should be present at their meetings.
Mr. Cowan stated most continuances are the result of issues brought
up by the pubic and these cannot be anticipated.
Chr. Mahoney addressed a time limit for groups and applications.
City Planner Wordell stated it was the consensus of the planning
commission at the last meeting to leave this open.
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The meeting was opened for public comment.
Ms. Nancy Burnett, CURB, stated if the Planning commission are too
restrictive on the public, they will become angry. She noted the
more informed the public become the more prepared they are to
present to the Commission. She noted if the public is aware of
what is going on they can become part of the solution and not the
problem. She noted the residents want to be involved throughout
the process. Ms. Burnett spoke in support of the three minute time
limi t for simple items, but longer time should be allowed for
complex issues. She noted organized group presentations can save
time if they are well informed ahead of time. Ms. Burnett added
that if the public is limited to one appearance, the applicant
should also be limited to one appearance. She believes the public
could also benefit from contacting staff before a meeting and also
suggested a manual for the public explaining technical issues. She
addressed continued items, and noted incomplete applications should
be continued automatically.
Com. Àustin stated the deadlines for applications must be adhered
too. She believes that the 3 minute time limit is reasonable for
public comments, but suggests 10-15 minutes for group
presentations. She noted the public comment could be extended if
necessary. Com. Àustin stated that questions from the Commission
to the public should be limited to clarification only. She stated
the applicant and the public should receive the same amount of time
and the applicant should not be allowed to speak twice. She spoke
in support of item 2, as addressed in the staff report.
Com. Roberts stated they should make provisions regarding time
limits for the applicant and groups. He stated because of time
limitations, presentations are more organized and the commission
should work towards a consensus as to what the appropriate time
limits should be. He spoke in support of item 2, Commissioners
contacting the staff regarding technical issues. Regarding item 3,
Com. Roberts stated he does not mind going beyond 11 p.m., but this
should be set as a goal. He stated staff and the Commission should
be prepared to continue applications if they are not complete and
avoid getting into deep discussions.
Com. Harris stated the responsibility of the Planning Commission is
to hold public meetings. She noted the Council have a three minute
public time limit, and this seems to work. She stated groups
should not be limited and the applicant also needs time to present
his/her plan. She also noted the applicant should be available to
answer questions in response to public input. She stated she would
like to see a change in the policy regarding how staff schedules
the items and noted this should be balanced more. She stated 11
p.m. should be a goal to work towards, but would like to remove the
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last sentence in item 3.
Chr. Mahoney spoke in support of the 3 minutes for public input and
a longer time limit for the applicant and groups. He also spoke in
support of the goal for II p.m. Chr. Mahoney stated he would like
to hear from the applicant after public input.
The Planning commissioners discussed the possibility of the
applicant addressing the Planning commission after pUblic input.
Chr. Mahoney stated if
can address these,
commission.
specific issues are raised and the applicant
he should be allowed to readdress the
Corn. Roberts stated the commissioners should have the latitude to
direct questions to the applicant or organized groups.
Corn. Harris stated findings have been written to address problems
the Commission brought up and they should work with these. She
noted the process has been working regarding the applicant getting
his information across and if it becomes a problem they should
address it at that time.
Corn. Roberts stated that unlimited debate does not assure that all
the issues will be raised before going to the Council.
MOTION:
Corn. Harris moved to approve the minute order subject to
the findings and subconclusions of the hearing with the
following modification: Item 3 should read "A cutoff
time of 11:00 p.m. is set as a goal. staff will attempt
to plan meetings that will not exceed this cutoff time."
The motion died due to lack of a second.
Corn. Austin suggested adding item 4 regarding a staff deadline for
materials and continue if materials are not presented in full.
Mr. Cowan stated the findings of the resolution apply to the
conduct of the meeting and the law provides for a notice of
completion. He stated the problem is last minute changes and he
would prefer the Commission not get involved in how the review
process is administered.
Corn. Roberts stated if public input is limited so should the
applicant. He suggested the following language "Applicants shall
be limited to 10 minutes per presentation unless staff advises the
Commission that the issue is sufficiently complex to warrant more
time."
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Chr. Mahoney stated he supports Com. Roberts suggested language,
but believes they are balancing one applicant with unlimited public
input.
There was a consensus to support Com. Roberts language.
Com. Harris stated that the Planning commission should try to hear
applications that are scheduled on the agenda.
MOTION:
Com. Austin moved to approve the minute order subject to
the findings and subconclusions of the hearing with the
following amendments: Applicants and groups are limited
to 10 minutes, with the additional wording as stated by
Com. Roberts; Delete the last sentence on item 3.
Com. Roberts
Passed 4-0-1
Com. Doyle
SECOND:
VOTE:
ABSENT:
3.
Discussion of
applications.
required
illustrations
for
planning
staff Presentation: Ci ty Planner Wordell presented the staff
report noting the Planning commission held two workshops on the
possibility of requiring computer simulation for major projects.
She stated at the workshops with AIA the Planning commission
decided that their preference was that they not dictate what the
actual median would be to prepare these drawings, but would rather
describe the views and number of views they would like. She noted
it would then be up to the applicant to determine how they would
produce the renderings. Ms. Wordell presented a matrix outlining
the guidelines for perspective drawings for discretionary permits,
as outlined in the staff report. She noted that Planned
Development could be added to the matrix. Ms. Wordell also
presented drawings and examples of what the Planning Commission may
require when a project comes before them. She also reviewed
staff's suggestion regarding what the Planning commission may
require, as outlined on the matrix.
Com. Harris asked was any consideration given to getting a
ridgeline drawing of a hillside project?
Ms. Wordell stated this can be required. She stated the renditions
can be computer generated or hand drawn and may be 2 dimensional.
Mr. Jim Brenner, AIA, stated he will answer questions of the
commission and noted that staff has put together reasonable
requirements. He stated it should be clear up front what the
Planning commission requires. He stated these should be guidelines
as proposed to requirements.
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Com. Roberts asked if some architects are at a disadvantage because
of an inability to follow these guidelines.
Mr. Brenner stated an architect would frequently get a renderer to
do the renderings. He stated the services are available.
Chr. Mahoney noted the AlA had some concern about the number of
requirements for a single family residential hillside project.
Mr. Brenner stated the requirements seemed more burdensome on this
type of a project. Ms. Wordell stated they did reduce the views
required after receiving the input from AIA.
Com. Austin spoke in favor of the matrix and would support adding
detached PD development. She spoke in support of a ridgeline view.
city Planner Wordell stated if a ridgeline is involved it could be
included in one of the required views.
Com. Austin stated three views are too many for the Single Family
Residential Detached Hillside.
Com. Roberts concurred that the three views may be too many. He
suggested choosing the two most critical. He asked about
applications which are continued with the recommendation that the
applicant revise part of the plan. He noted the renderings become
inconsistent.
Ms. Wordell stated this would be on a
noted this may encourage people to
otherwise the commission may want to
subsequent requests.
case by case basis. She
do computer renderings,
be conservative in their
Mr. Cowan stated if there are dramatic changes to the architecture
and grading a new model must be drawn.
Com. Roberts stated consistency is more important that the number
of views.
Com. Harris stated she would like to see the views on Single Family
Residential Detached Hillside if the homes are over 5,000 sq. ft.
She noted a view from neighboring residence should not be required
if a photomontage from downslope is required, the neighboring
residence could be included in this. She stated she would like to
see a view of the building which includes the trees and focuses on
the site. She would like to include the statement which included
a ridgeline drawing.
Regarding Attached Residential, Non-hillside, Com. Harris stated
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she would like to remove the word "attached". She stated the
intent would be to get a concept of each building type and the
recreation area. If there are over 100 units or a large project
containing more than 500,000 sq. ft. she would like to see a model.
She stated she would like to see an additional column to the matrix
titled Model. In the large Non-residential projects, Com. Harris
would like to see more views from the surrounding neighborhoods.
She stated she would rather see more views as opposed to animation.
Com. Austin stated she would rather have a model than animation.
Com. Roberts stated he has not seen animation used effectively in
cases like this. He noted with the very large projects a major
concern is visibility and this should be taken into consideration
when requiring more views.
Chr. Mahoney stated he would rather see a model as opposed to
animation.
The consensus of the commission is as follows:
single Family Residential Detached Hillside - drop 1 view from
neighboring residence and include ridgeline shot, if applicable, in
one of the two views.
Residential, Non-hillside - residential over 100 units and projects
500,000 sq. ft. or more, like to see a model. No animation.
Non-residential building over 5,000 sq. ft. - Like views from
neighboring properties for very large projects.
SECOND:
VOTE:
ABSENT:
Com. Austin moved to recommend approval of the matrix
subject to the findings and subconclusions of the hearing
and to include the consensus points as addressed by the
commission.
Com. Roberts
Passed 4-0-1
Com. Doyle
MOTION:
city Planner Wordell thanked AlA for their participation in this
process.
NEW BUSINESS
4. Application 5-U-94 - Landmark Development: Request to set a
public hearing for a General Plan Amendment for an 11,761 sq.
ft. vacant parcel at Gardenside Lane and Rainbow Drive, to
change from the residential designation of High: 20-35
dwelling units per gross acre to Med./High:lO-20 dwelling
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units per gross acre.
staff Presentation: Planning Director Cowan stated the Council
have asked the Planning Commission to conduct a public hearing to
consider a change in the landuse pattern for Rainbow Dr. Mr. Cowan
stated four General Plan amendments are allowed each year and three
have already been adopted and the diocese is the fourth. He stated
he advised the applicant that he could try to incorporate his six
lot development into the property behind or can start the process
and wait until January l, 1995 until the amendment can be adopted.
He suggested that the Planning commission direct him to initiate a
General Plan hearing in September.
Mr. Lon Mills, Landmark Development, stated the applicant will
continue to talk to the adjoining Homeowners Association to try to
get their approval to include this development as a third phase.
Mr. Mills questioned the zone change?
Mr. Cowan stated laws have got tougher in the last few years. He
stated the zoning must be consistent with the General Plan.
Mr. Mills stated if the adjacent Homeowners Association is willing
to take this on as a third phase, he stated they would have to
change the architecture to blend in with the existing units.
Mr. Cowan stated there needs to be architectural compatibility and
physical integration.
Mr. Mills stated the developer would like to move forward on this
project.
Ms. Nancy Burnett, 729 Stendhal Ln., stated a 20 unit count would
be another option to consider.
REPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
Com. Austin reported on the Affordable Housing Committee
and noted in-lieu fees were discussed regarding City
Associates.
Meeting
Center
REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Com. Harris addressed the Emily Chen application and noted the word
"ash" should be removed from #l.
In response to Com. Harris' question regarding the animal issue in
Regnart Canyon, Mr. Cowan stated the Council continued this to
September 19th and in the interim the neighbors will appoint
someone to work with staff and then this will come back to the